what exactly is toxic masculinity? does it exist?

cufflad · 2019-04-22T08:35:12+00:00

no, its horseshit.

it's supposed to cover violence, homophobia, sexism etc.

vandaalen · 2019-04-22T08:46:15+00:00

It's meaning changes based on the narrative the femtard narrator is in need of.

It can either mean traits which are deemed to be solely present in males, like rape, violence, manipulation, etc. and then used to justify, why all men must be taught not to do those things, or it can mean traits which are deemed to be toxic to society and the men themselves, like i. e. being competitive, stoicism, domincance, etc.

Both are of course horseshit.

The former is just blatant sexism, assuming that all men have a murderer and rapist caught inside of them, which has to be kept under control at all cost, or else will inevitably come out. Of course women know best how to keep that beast under control and not the billions of men who did not engage in such behavior over humankind's existance, if we assumed that to be the truth for the sake of the argument.

The latter is a misconception stemming from the female mindset, where feelings are more important than anything else. Without those traits, humanity would still live on trees, if we would not have died out a long time ago.

illgiveyouapapow · 2019-04-22T08:57:12+00:00

I always figured toxic masculinity was only that the idea of masculinity being a solid rigid structure. And that deviating from that structure made any male which did, less masculine. When society props up this solid rigid masculine structure, all males who do not fit into that structure are now stricken with a variety of mental illness due to understanding that they do not fit into this structure as is expected by society.

I don’t think it’s an issue with masculinity. The issue is with society tearing down men for not fitting into a certain idea of what masculinity means.

I don’t know though. I don’t know what masculinity is.

If you ask me, humans are all on a spectrum, well that’s probably more of a scientific fact.

All human beings are a mix of masculine and feminine. These concepts are separated by our minds so that we can identify them individually and understand the roles these different forms take in our nature. However, wisdom is understanding how these two roles are actually integrated inside of us.

Masculinity cannot be defined without femininity. They are simultaneously necessitous (is that a word?). They work together and are inseparable on the highest level. We simply separate these concepts to better help us understand them.

The true “toxicity” is that we separate these concepts to understand them, but then we do not re-integrate these ideas. Instead, we try to force men and women into two separate boxes which never existed. We created those boxes for the purpose of gaining perspective. We hurt eachother by not integrating them back together.

Bruchibre · 2019-04-22T08:59:59+00:00

Toxic masculinity is if your dog dies and you start crying and I say "man up its just a dog stop crying like a sissy". Something like that. Bullshit

Title	what exactly is toxic masculinity? does it exist?
Author	knowledgeseeker999
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Date	April 22, 2019 8:31 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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