It seems the red pill has taken over the scene now, and in some senses I feel it's somewhat cult like. The focus is on positive things: lift weights, buy some nice clothes, learn to spin plates, and don't get too attached. That's the fucking motto around here. Not bad, but narrow. You go back, you lack at what seduction used to be, with Mystery and Strauss and Jeffries, A bunch of nerds who just figured it out and learned to play the *game*, and you wonder what happened. What if you're more ambitious. Where do you go if you want to work more angles? Where's the conversation? The pua subreddit? Gone. The seduction subreddit? Might as well be gone. Even the old forums like sosuave don't seem like centers of activity. All I see is this.

I'm not saying I don't agree with TRP fundamentals. Lift first, and read some Rollo. All good. But is anyone else bored? Does anyone else feel like the community has been forced into a corner, and on top of that, politicized? Does anyone else looking for a different conversation?

Maybe I don't have a point here. Maybe I don't even have a question. This has just been at the back of my head for awhile. I don't really know the history. I'm too young. What happened? Where is this going?