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A quick reframe to "You're so sweet!" - "Lots of pineapple juice"

anylegtypes · 2019-02-09T15:59:45+00:00

For bonus points, wait a beat for them to start understanding it, but move on before they can respond. Obviously contextual but a nice pushback on framing you...

anylegtypes

February 9, 2019

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Title	A quick reframe to "You're so sweet!" - "Lots of pineapple juice"
Author	anylegtypes
Upvotes	39
Comments	20
Date	February 9, 2019 3:59 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/aotj3n/a_quick_reframe_to_youre_so_sweet_lots_of/
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[–]wowzacowza 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

For sure, but don't take my word as gospel. Women aren't that mysterious, guys are just oblivious. Go out and have interactions with women and take notice of how they act based off your words and actions. You'll start to put things together really quickly and realize that women are humans and guys are humans so we think in similar but slightly different ways.

One of the biggest epiphanies most guys have somewhat early on in game that really opens the door for them is the realization that women want to have sex just as much guys, but they can't appear to want sex without feeling shame. That means your battle isn't so much with making her want to have sex, it means your battle is making her realize that it's socially acceptable to have sex with you. It's less about giving her a reason to have sex as it is about taking away the reasons she shouldn't have sex.

[–]minimalistforlifeee 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Are only young guys oblivious or older men as well? I know what ur saying though if you need always keep in mind that we are both relatable by being human. I don’t think they are mysterious unless that’s their game and they are really good at it but mostly I think they are confusing as they don’t know what they want or how to get it or they will say one thing and mean another. Actually in my experience I am better at articulating my emotions than girls I have met which is something I just realized now.

Damn society and their social conditioning lol 😂 that’s a good way of putting it though that I never had thought of...take away the reasons why not and all your left with is reasons why to do it so it’s not really any actual work added it’s just a clean up of a mess that shouldn’t be there

Edit : also I feel like girls change their minds very quickly maybe because they fear “creeps” so much and take something little and let their mind turn it into a red flag . Just one little thing and it’s over

[–]wowzacowza 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Young and old.

Women don't fear creeps. They fear being seen with a low value guy. Unless what you're saying has really rapey undertones it's highly unlikely she actually suspects you're a creep. Far more likely is she thinks you're poorly socially adjusted and low value.

I've talked some pretty crazy shit with girls during pickup. I actually came to this sub like 5 months ago as I was going through a rough breakup. Well, one of the times I was trying to pick a girl up I pretty much broke down and started talking about my ex. I told her about when we broke up we found out she was pregnant and she had to go get an abortion. Literally told a girl I just met about all this and still took her home.

But, I had already shown her I was high value enough to where even though that's weird as fuck to talk about she still wanted me.

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I have written short pieces for starters on here you could maybe find going through my posts but you'd have to dig in there to be honest. What I'd really recommend, look up Todd V. He has lots of Youtube videos that will do so much more for you to learn from than anything I could really write. Teaching guys pickup is literally his day job and he's been doing PU for like 20 years. I'm 24. Dude's been pulling bitches since I was in kindergarten.

One thing I have been debating posting about that I haven't seen from anyone else is discussing the fact that studies have shown women are attracted to extremely different things based on their menstrual cycle. A woman ovulating finds almost opposite features attractive compared to when she is menstruating. It's an awkward but important subject. So far as I can tell, it comes from the fact that throughout history it was probably rather difficult for a man to really know whether he was the biological father of the children he raised. It would be advantageous, from a genetic perspective, for a woman to find a stable and competent man to raise her children and to find what is likely a more sexually promiscuous man but with better genetics to actually impregnate her. Because of the nature of a woman's fertility cycle, this would actually be quite possible. She's faithful to her partner most of the time, but during the short time that she's most fertile, she finds other suitors. Bam, she gets the best genetics possible plus she gets a man that will actually stick around and care for the kids.

Why would that matter to us? Because if you're a modern man just trying to get laid, it means you approach women extremely differently depending on whether she's ovulating or not. Which actually isn't that hard to know. Deep down, in your animal instincts, you can tell. There's evidence that men can actually smell it on a woman due to pheromones. If she's ovulating, she wants a more alpha man to get her pregnant. If she's not, she wants a more stable man who will stick around and raise the kids. Almost totally opposite, which means they require almost totally opposite approaches.

It also means if you want a long-term relationship to work, you need to understand this fact. It means that most women out there are biologically drawn to cheat on you while ovulating unless you demonstrate domestic traits most of the time and alpha traits during that short time. It's actually something I suspected for a while during my own relationship, and I think a big part of the breakup I went through was that I became a lot more alpha about my own life and less domestic. It led to my now ex girlfriend not wanting me to be the "public father" to raise her kids but wanted me more as the biological father of her kids.... hence the pregnancy. And the breakup.

Anyway, sorry for the rant but I think it's an interesting topic.

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