Hi All,

So i've started to try and be more sociable and as a side thing i also have more contact with woman.

So mostly during nighttime at usually expat party's i talk with them for 5 a 10 mins, make a few jokes, have some rapport/connection and when i have a feeling there is something why i want to meet up with them i take their number before another guy swoops in, and in all situations i get no respons the next day.

I have the following questions:

  • What are the most simple things i can do to make her/number more reliable.
  • What do i do when other guys come in, usually i feel overwhelmed and dont like fighting for the attention and get bored or irritated and leave the conversation since they stick like glue and i dont like being a needy guy.
  • When i am in a group i never ask their number because of the following, it is very awkward for her and for me and when rejected it is shit with a whole group so i've did stuff like make a friend distract or wait when she is alone a moment but it is honestly taking to much effort and energy giving me the feeling i am over investing therefor being needy, what would you guys recommend.

Sidenote: i dont like Pickup/PUA stuff, looking for some casual tips to improve my connection with girls and possible followups.