Hey guys, Been having some trouble isolating girls from their friends.

We normally have a pretty decent 15 min convo or something and then I’ll say “ I’m kind of having a tough time hearing you, wanna move someplace quieter” simply cause it’s the only genuine reason I can think we would need to move.

Usually this comes off a bit too bold/creepy since the unspoken translation is: “let’s get more physical”

Tbh I get that if she is attracted enough, she should say yes to that too as she should want to move to a quieter spot, but I think there’s just a safety thing in play where they’re not sure if they’re going to get date raped or some shit if they go along with me. I honestly don’t know that’s just the vibe I’m getting.

Worth mentioning, I have only tried this on girls standing with groups of 1 to 2 girls as I fare better with that dynamic than a larger group.

So with this in mind, I was wondering what are some genuine reasons to want to change spots in a bar/club as mine just comes off as too forward for their liking I think?

Appreciate any reasons to isolate or insight.

Thanks.

Also worth mentioning, the demographics to rule out other factors:

Age: 20 - 25

Race: Mostly white since it’s the Midwest

Mostly college girls since most bars with people my age are college bars.

I am 24, 5’7, Indian, light skinned, buff, minimal to non-existent accent.

For the most part, think Andrei Deiu but shorter.