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[–]cj_steele 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not hard for her to find one, but it is hard for her to keep one.
[–]-Kast- 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Value curve reversal.
The answer is no... but the problem is that time is linear and progressive. By the time most Western women genuinely start looking a high value man, they're running down on the biological clock.
Women age, appearance-wise and on average, about 15-20 years earlier than men. Sexist and feminist arguments aside, a woman's primary PERCEIVED value (what others note as her obvious value) comes from her beauty. For men? Their value comes from maturity, stability, career, income, etc.
So when they're young, it's easy for women to find high-value men. The problem is most dont know what they want and/or they just want to have fun. By the time they have figured it out, it's too late to be super picky and it only gets harder.
35+ is when men start to basically dominate the value hierarchy. Ironically, most available men at this point dont really want to settle and enjoy their independence, which makes it even harder for women to compete.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are infinitely more attractive and arousing women then there are arousing men. Even gorgeous girls complain about not having been laid in months or being able to find a quality guy. You guys think women trip over dick all the time, but in reality very few men truly arouse them to them point of them wanting to have sex.
[–]jbo99 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s sort of a floor and ceiling thing. Women have high floors and low ceilings ie the vast majority of women can easily be pretty attractive to the point where they have a good SMV however there isn’t much they can do to truly elevate themselves to the point where a high SMV man absolutely must have them.
For men you can be a super low floor (ie have literally no options at all which is true for tons of guys) but a crazy high ceiling to where basically any woman will want you in whatever capacity they can get you. These men are extremely rare.
I’d imagine super ambitious women would get frustrated by their lack of ability to grow their ceiling in the same way that men can. However overall women have a much easier time having SMV given that most women who are healthy and within a certain age range are plenty attractive to land a guy. Men have to work to build their SMV.
I don’t really know the answer to your question because I think “high” is relative. I’d argue most women live above a floor to where most men would date them. Men also are attractive for longer so while in a given age bracket there are less men who are attractive to women, there are more men overall to compensate for this because men can stay attractive well into 30s and early 40s in a way most (not all but most) women can’t
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[–]jbo99 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean there’s men like Ronaldo or Leonardo DiCaprio who like literally any woman would be with. I don’t think women have an equivalent for this. Like I’d be totally star struck over someone like Gal Gadot as would any man but I actually don’t know if the level of attraction towards her is that much higher than towards a hot woman at a club or something. Don’t get me wrong it’s higher, but I think for women towards men the effect is just completely different. Women really really want those top tier men whereas we definitely want top tier women but not that much more than we want regular women.
I think a top tier guy is extremely confident in his skin, a unique and appealing personality, in very good shape, and exhibits signs of wealth. I also think he’s got an air of mystery or like there’s a lot of life and intrigue beneath the surface.
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