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[–]Ashamed-Height1106 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I don't think you'll have any issue being confident already. What guys need to understand about rejection or it not working out early on is any girl you approach, if she doesn't have a boyfriend, might still be talking to and more interested in other people. Don't take it personally. I think you'll be fine.
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[–]ThrowAwayAccount__0 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You subconsciously do because you're doing everything but asking her out. Basically, you're trying to go from A to B to C to D all the way to Z.
Just ask her to get coffee or go to a place with you on a date. Literally make it the 5th line into the conversation. You have to say it before you walk away.
Don't ask for a Snapchat or Instagram. Ask her out directly. Get rejected right there, or get the number, then move on.
It seems like you're doing 1/2 the work, which is approaching and talking, but you're avoiding the last that gives a possibility of rejection: directly asking her on a date.
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[–]ThrowAwayAccount__0 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would not ask at a beach because women are less dressed, and probably with friends, so you'll come off as intimidating while also requiring her to make a decision to give you her number on the spot.
And couple that if it's too hot or she's trying to do something and it just becomes annoying. But if she's just chilling on a towel,
If you had to, I'd ask if she wanted to grab a smoothie or something with me at a nearby bar or something that we could walk to. So you should know the name and where it is and be ready to walk there.
Personally I'd avoid the beach though. Just not my style.
[–]kpopdj1999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think this has got to be the first time I've heard a dude in the pickup community make it sound like a negative thing that a woman has less clothes on.
And you should never make a woman make any decisions - this applies to far more than just pickup. When you get the number, that's because you can't pull her because the logistics are bad, and she should never be faced with making that decision. You just give her small compliance tests, starting with, "The sun is in my eyes, move over here," and ending with, "Are you [area code]?" ... "ok cool, type the rest in" after you've made plans to meet up.
[–]kpopdj1999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
All of your posts read like you want to have witty conversations with women. Maybe you're not on the right forum, cuz the objective here is to bang out hot women.
[–]Ashamed-Height1106 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gross.
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This is great advice, esp the asking out directly. Women’s re so used to being asked for their contact and then dudes try ask later. It doesn’t work. It comes across much more confident to be direct and they appreciate that so much as they feel safe enough to reject you there and then.
Plus if they do, it’s water off a ducks back AND SAVED TIME.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have such an advantage because you are already outgoing and not afraid to approach. That will serve you well. What you also have is a big shiny brand new tool box - but it's empty. It's not your fault, your parents might not have had the tools to pass down. Regardless, you need to start putting some seduction tools in your tool box.
So pick a camp ( there are many coaches out there) and learn what you can. Then find another camp and another and another. In just a few months you can fill that toolbox with the best seduction tools available. A word of caution - these pickup coaches can be very dogmatic. "My way is the only right way" kind of thinking. Don't buy into that bullshit. All of these coaches have some good things to pass on, but no one system is the ultimate authority in seduction. Good luck and have fun. Wish I had your opportunities when I was 18. You're going to slay!
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The pickup term is make the interaction man to woman. It's a sales process. The product you're selling is sex with you. The woman is going to be annoyed if you talk to her for 30 minutes and never mention having sex with you or anything related to that. That's what women mean by, "Don't waste my time."
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think your approach is good and you have the right mindset from the get-go.
People (not just women) cannot help but like a person that makes them laugh. My suggestion would be to get them giggling or laughing as soon as you can into the interaction, playfully teasing them in what they say, deliberately misinterpreting what they say in a funny way - do what makes sense for your personality.
Teasing is great because it builds tension and interest. From there you can move to flirting and making it clear that since she’s showing signs of interest, you’re interested too and can escalate to asking her out there and then. No point in getting her contact if she’s not keen for a date.
I’ve seen a lot on the group a strong reliance on text which I strongly disagree with. This suggestion is a bit further down the line from what you’re trying to achieve here but it’s worth mentioning to help you avoid slip up later.
If she says yea to a date, Once you get her number, you could either organise it right there and then if it feels right or you can say “I’ll call you later” but emphasize that you’re not a bit text person, that you will call and if you can, tell her the estimated time you’ll call so that she knows to expect it rather than ambiguous “I’ll call you later”
I’ll call you later today I’ll call you tomorrow around 6
This is much better. You’ll stand out from other guys too.
You also avoid the communication death trap of text since your voice tone and timing of voice allows you to convey yourself better which is critical for attraction in the beginning.
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It’s a catch 22 with compliments. You can have two guys, exactly the same guys do the same approach but one is coming from a different place emotionally than the other and it can have a different result.
If one guy compliments because he wants her validation, this will come out in his facial expression, body language, tone and timing of speech.
If the other guy is exuding confidence, Void of seeking her validation, and says the same thing, it’s coming coming across as direct, transparent and sincere, which will provoke a different set of emotions in her.
For me the biggest thing is the emotional state. If you can control that in yourself, it will exude all the right things and you inner game will be bullet proof.
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