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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There's one on the front page right now that reads something like "I can't stop thinking about girls" which, to me, should be addressed as an inner game problem.
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[–]Tenmagnet 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Awesome explanation. I'm anticipating the finished product
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[–]puaCurveBall 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Well personally I want material on how to inspire others and create change in people around me.
I know quite a bit about building up reference experiences and reframing for the positive, but I always struggle to help guys really believe they can change
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[–]puaCurveBall 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I hear that, I try to focus on limiting beliefs, but so many guys even when we've drilled down to the core belief and they even admit it doesn't make a lot of sense, they just can't seem to push them over the edge.
I have many cases of success, so I'm talking about real hard-cases... wish there was an invisible switch I could throw on them.... willing to change, understand beliefs are bull but hold onto them.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, I think that relies on the hard-cases' personal reference points. I don't think there's much you can do about it. The hard-case has to take a strong leap of faith, or they have to gain the experience and reference points to knock out their negative beliefs. I think the best you can do, besides being a guide, is to be a strong source of emotional support.
[–]puaCurveBall 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, I agree you have to want to change...
How do you handle when you are being paid though? Do you feel you have a responsibility to invoke some change when taking in whatever you make per bootcamp?
For instance, I know a guy who wants to do the $20k project rockstar thing... personally, and I know you have to disagree with me, but I think it is a waste of his time... he knows all the shit (been into pua thing for 5+ years), he knows his limiting beliefs, he really wants to change (and is willing to plunk down $20k) but can't seem to get it on his own.
My fear is that if he can't get it through local coaching / self-improvement, he isn't going to get it at love-systems... he is just a tough nut to crack.
This might have strayed off topic, but I am curious how you handle hard cases when there is an expectation that you can invoke some sort of change
[–]hypnotheorist 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
they even admit it doesn't make a lot of sense
That's a bad sign. They still have the feeling because they're unwilling to be honest with themselves about the reason - quite possibly because they "know it doesn't make sense".
If I'm not cheating with hypnosis, I'll just keep pressing forward. For example, it might go something like this:
"I'm afraid no girl would ever like me"
Oh, so maybe you should give up then. Wouldn't want to waste your time...
"Well, I mean, no, it doesn't make any sense"
Oh good! You realize that it doesn't make any sense, you can just stop being afraid, yeah?
"No, I'm still scared"
Oh... Why's that?
"I don't know"
Yeah.. that must suck. It's really important to you to not be afraid, yet you can't fix it because you don't know why you're afraid... which makes it feel pretty hopeless, huh?
"yeah"
And it's like... you just want it to tell you whats causing the fear so you can make it stop and go approach girls like you've already decided to do... you just know that part of you is stupid so why won't it just listen?
So why won't it listen?
"I dunno"
What would you do if you were really afraid of something and have what really feels like a good reason to be afraid... and some jerk starts telling you that you're stupid and clearly just wants to get you to do the scary thing without even listening to your reasons?
"I'd tell him to screw off!"
yeah... so why might that part not want to listen to you?
"....Because I'm being a jerk and not listening to it..."
yeah... and why's that?
"Because I'm embarrassed. It feels stupid"
yeah... it is kinda silly huh?
"hehe"
So what do you think you gotta do now?
"listen to it"
yeah... so go ahead and listen to it. Let me know what it has to say
[pauses to think]
"I guess I'm just worried that if I fail, it'll prove that I really am not good enough"
Oh... is that true?
"well... no"
Oh, so you can just drop it then, huh?
"hehe, yeah..."
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