I see alot of this KJ advice ala "Don't go out for the sole purpose of approaching women", "Approaching women who haven't given you IOIs is pedestalisation", "Don't be desperate, just approach women as you go along your way"

What? The name of this subreddit is literally SEDUCTION. Not "I have this self-image of what a trv badass alpha male is, i'm the prize, women should come to me, otherwise fuck them! I don't need them!". You will get literally nowhere thinking like that. Imagine going back in time and telling world class seducers like Casanova or Lord Byron that they should just lean back, assume a passive role and let women come to them. Or another classic, just talk and flirt with girls when they happen to cross paths and things "naturally unfold". They would laugh their asses off. Go on and call Casanova desperate and needy. Go on and tell him, that because he is the "pursuer" he has no power while the woman has all the power. How ridiculous! By becoming a seducer, you make it seem like it just happened naturally to the girl. This is the skill you learn. What a power to rely on yourself and not skillset! I have had girls who were in their heads listening to a podcast about romance, love or dating or thinking about it, not paying any fucking attention to me until i approached, and they were instantly hooked. To them, it was almost like i was sent from high above. Fate brought us together! (Truth is i passed her, saw her ass and thought mmm and approached her, but sureee "fate brought us together"... ;) )

Seduction is the art where YOU are the chooser. Where you say "i want that woman over there" and because of your developed skillset in seduction, your "game" if you will, you are able to seduce her and get her. Seduction is not fame game. Women choosing you is not seduction. Choosing them and then making them think they chose you... that is seduction. That is why you see ugly dudes with hot girls and ugly girls with hot guys.

Just wanted to clear this up. I do alot of daygame. Daygame sessions are where i cut my teeth. Going out to approach girls is not putting them on a pedestal, but thinking it makes it so... Personally i go out because i wanna improve my skillset and lay hot babes.

Good luck on your seduction journeys...