My FIRST f close since joining r/seduction.

Met a girl last week and asked her out for some ice-cream. (I should mention we have been texting/flirting all week and the topic of sex has definitely come up.) After this I suggested grabbing a bottle of wine and sitting by the beach. It soon began raining so we ran to her car (she volunteered to drive). This is when things got a bit awkward since it was still pretty early in the evening.

To make things interesting I suggested, very innocently, that we sit in the back seat (she drives an SUV) and finish the wine... she has dark tinted windows, we were in a pretty secluded area, and the sun had just set. She then made it very clear that she doesn't have sex in cars and I said I agreed, and added that were not having sex, just wanted to be closer to her to make it more intimate. As we were finishing the wine we began kissing.

I proceeded to escalate things further by suggesting taking our shirts off, telling her I "just wanted to feel her" and occasionally reassuring her that we are not having sex. Using this line eventually got all our clothes off (except underwear), since the constant reassurance of "its not sex" seemed to make her feel more secure or that I'm not only after just THAT.

The escalation eventually reached the point that she just whipped it out for me...

Retrospectively, even if the escalation did not reach the f-close I would have respected her decision for this, but I think this just goes to show that often times women want it as much as or more than men... but the atmosphere needs to be right and you need to reach a certain level of comfort for this to happen.

TL;DR timing and escelating with reassurance that the ultimate goal is NOT sex will make her want you even more.