Post rugby practice some of the guys and I head out to the bar. Its my 2nd real full contact practice ever (the first being on tuesday) so I'm still beat up and sore, filthy smelly dirty. So the last thing on my mind is even attempting to approach any of the fine women at the bar last night.
Well, oddly enough, as the girls started rolling in, one of the guys goes, "Here's the real test. If you can manage to pick up a girl like this, just after practice, well you know you're doing something right". I ignore it really, or just let it simmer as truth I'm not prepared enough to meet, but sure enough the guy opens a 2 set as naturally as opening a door. We were at a table at the end of the bar, and the 2 set was straddling the corner of the bar, so naturally he'd have to walk past them to do anything, and just stopped and talked to them. For the life of me I wish I could have heard how he opened or how he continued the conversation, but in keeping with the non-reactive mindset I was simply impressed instead of depressed about watching him do something I couldn't. I live far away and as it was getting late I got up to leave, said goodbye to the guys, and since he had helped me at practice I decided to try to give him some DHV and politely interrupted without acknowledging the girls and thanked him for his help on the field and looked forward to seeing him again this weekend and left. I was reading his face for a reaction, and I'm sure I caught him off guard and might have messed up his flow a little, and I'd be willing to bet that he was worried that I'd blow him out or something. I've been trying a lot of new things this month, so I figured I'd try that too. I don't have any feedback about that at the moment obviously, so I can't ask for advice on it, but once I do I'll come back with a question or something.
Anyways, I head up the road to my car and stop off in another bar where my good buddy is at. I was planning on just swinging in and saying goodbye on my way out, but there was this hb6 I met two weeks ago on their team who invited me to join for the last few rounds and stick around. She even offers me the last of her beer, which I found kind of odd, so I pull the obvious roofies joke again, but this time I just scale it back, twist it a little and let it go and move on. So I say fuck it, start kino, hold eye contact, she's receptive, flirty in a classy way, heavy on the wit, into nerdy stuff, she likes languages and foreign culture and so do I so natural talking points (london is better, no regensburg is better, etc). My good friend helps me out, telling me she's probably DTF and just looking for FWB and nothing serious, and that I should definitely go for it, comes back and helps with some social proof. So I think I'm seeing interest from her, she reciprocates kino a little more than with other guys, conversation continues, I find out its a 3 day weekend for her and she's got nothing interesting going for the night, so I'm thinking I might be able to pique her interest and push this all the way. TofuTofu's post about taking a date home to her place after he felt that the momentum was petering out was a good idea to try, but I find out she doesn't live within walking distance, so nix on that. The bar trivia game ends, and she gives me her number without me even asking, although I should mention that she'd described herself as assertive and getting what she wants and all that, and to me it felt more like a challenge than an ego statement, like she was daring me to do something about it. I bite. I make a joke I guess "I know how this ends, I call this number tomorrow and it turns out to be a recording saying you got punked or some stuff" ,which honestly, as soon as I started saying, I knew it was unlikely as SHE'D offered me her number without asking, and had mentioned that I should come out again to next weeks trivia, so definitely wasn't a flake. I think I was trying too hard, and I noticed that I was in my head alot leading up to the number exchange, as I was trying to think of a way to continue escalating, and trying to remember to save some conversation topics for later when I could tease her about her choice of favored foreign culture. Honestly I was probably just trying too hard and thinking too much, but I wasn't worried about screwing it up. Either I picked up that I'd at least be able to try for a k close as I walk her to her car, or I didn't care if I blew out or not. It was kinda weird.
We walk out, I'm thinking this is it, turns out there is sex trivia shortly after a break, and I figure why not, stick around, get everyone thinking about sex, then try something later. I was in my head again, couldn't think of things to say, some guy on our team is making jokes I found obvious and didn't bother saying that she seemed to enjoy, but also was making some good ones too, he just kept up the roll. I don't think I put up a needy vibe or anything, but I continued the kino and I thought I could see that she was still returning interest, even though I'd grown more contemplative and less talkative. (to be fair, I'm beat up and its 1 am and I've had a few beers and probably need a lot more water).
Ok, so we walk out for real, I walk her to her car, she says, "Aww how chivalrous!" and I'm thinking to myself, girl, my intentions are not honorable at all, just you wait. We get to the car, I'm not the smoothest of guys, eventually she says she gives good hugs, I tell her to prove it, she "falls" against her car, so at this point its a mulligan, I tell her I want to try something, she has to look at me though, and then I go in for the kiss.
Turns into a makeout on her car, she's wrapping a leg around me, I'm grinding into her, she jokes about chivalry, I say "yea it was over there from the bar to here!" Cocky funny I guess. She's pulling me in, I'm pulling her in, eventually it slows down, I'm thinking that's pretty good for the night. Banter about making out in public, start doing it again. I wanted to move it into the car so I told her I had an idea and that she should open the back door, she says, well I'm keeping my clothes on, and I say, what do you think I'm that easy? she's receptive, interested, she's on my lap and to keep a long story short that's where she stays for a few hours, clothes stay on. I'm not pushing for them to come off, just enjoying all of it. She opens her bra for me, I didn't even go for it (for reference I know how to open a bra with one hand, I think she thought I was being timid and wanted to take the lead) We banter about chivalry, I bring in jokes from the sex trivia (that stuff is gold). I try some sex talk "I could nail you to a wall" "you're infinitely fuckable" (shutup, write your own FR, made that in reference to her gymnastic yoga body and small size). I show her I have a wit too, etc ugh, then the I win game starts. I HATE THAT GAME. 3 hours later I drive home, we got some texting going (I made it home safely, except for these strange marks on my boobs, put some oil and rub it all over, and video tape it so I can make sure you're doing it right, etc) She ends it with inviting me to take her on a nice fun random exciting date which I'm down for. and I just realized, that she might be looking for boyfriend material, and I might need to disqualify myself if I want to turn this into FWB. I dunno.
Ok I'll wrap it up with questions/observations. I probably hate the I win game because when it starts I can't fight it well because her frame is stronger than mine. My strong natural frame only come out in sex, I can tease mercilessly (physically), make her beg, but I get flustered socially. My wit is hit or miss under pressure.
I feel like anyone could have picked this girl up, I just had to show up and push and she'd do the rest. And/Or when I'm not trying too hard, I am nerdy and give off that vibe, and we did connect a lot, so it was a right mix. I still want to develop stronger cold approach skills, and with a rugby pig roast coming up this weekend, I'll have social proof and enough anonymity to give it a try.
Early on, with the rugby crew, the guy who opened the two set was attractive, very toned arms, hitting on two attractive ladies. In my mind, all that tells me so far is that you have to 1. be attractive and 2. don't be unattractive, but otherwise I would have loved to be able to hear him open and continue.
and does anyone else find my FR's to be long winded? I'd like to err on the side of detail, but if there is stuff that doesn't help the community I'll try to keep it more concise. Thanks all!
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