I had a pretty interesting and unexpected night yesterday, which no doubt contributed to my personal growth very much. It's really long because it was a really long night (ended at 6am) and I'm still working on being succinct in FRs.
My friend met this woman out dancing on Thursday. Him and I were going to go for a relatively low-key night, watching a movie and then maybe going out to a bar or two. He decided to call this woman to invite her, and she told him that she's going out with some friends in another part of town and invited us along. This was a godsend for me because I was itching to do more serious sarging but I'm still afraid to solo.
A few hours later we met up with them at a bar. There were three women: the HB6 that my friend had met, another HB6 that was very open about sex, and a light-skinned Indian HB9. There was also a man with them in his mid-30s, who I discovered was the designated driver. Very soon after we arrived, two more guys joined. As I understood it, one of them sort of knew HB9, and he was obviously trying to get with her, giving her a lot of attention and kinoing her, but more on that later.
Shortly thereafter, we left for a nearby restaurant for a quick meal around 11:30pm. One thing that I am really good at is group conversations. Even if it starts off a bit rocky at first, I very quickly become the center of attention, telling stories and jokes, doling out value and just being a fun person to be with, without (usually) completely taking over. So this dinner was just perfect for me to build up rapport, and by the end, there was quite a bit of attraction from HB9 and the HB6 my friend knew.
I told them I was a door-to-door nail salesman, and just rolled with it for a while, talking about the trade. HB9 told me she wants to buy some nails, which I took as a huge IOI, and felt it would've been a perfect spot to get her number, except we were in front of a bunch of people (including a guy that was actively kinoing her), and I wasn't even sitting next to her. A bit later, the conversation changed and HB9 remarked that she was bored. So I said, "Oh really? Well let me tell you about the different kinds of nails there are," which got a huge laugh from everybody. Writing this FR, I realize that this nail salesman schtick is what I should reference when I text her (spoiler alert: I did #-close her later :).
After the dinner, we went to a club. I wrote out a separate FR for what happened there, but the short of it is that I did some approaches that went nowhere and just tried to have a good time despite the fact that I don't usually like clubs.
When we were still at dinner, HB9 was in a rush to go partying so we teased her about dancing on a table and she insisted that she would. So when we were at the club I teased her more about it and she was trying to weasel out of it by saying that the tables were too high and unstable (which is true). I didn't hang around her much because the other dude that was into her was clinging to her, and she seemed to be receptive to his kino (though she always gave me attention), and I felt sort of bad about AMOGing him. But I think that made her more interested and at some point when I came back to them, I said there are smaller tables on the other side and she should dance on one of them since she promised. She agreed and went with me there! This moment made me feel like a complete pimp: I just pulled a good-looking girl from another guy to go dance on a table for me at the other side of the club. I can't imagine doing that even a month ago. I led her with one hand on her lower back all the way there, and after she did a sort of sexy dance on the table for me, I hugged her and told her I was very impressed. As I write this, I see that I already had her isolated, and should've just kept her there and escalated. But I guess I still sort of felt like it was a dick move because of the other guy so I returned her to him.
When the club closed and we got kicked out around 2am, we were standing around and it became clear that this party wants to continue. Around this time we lost the other HB6. This guy came up to her and was trying to wing for another drunk guy that was already talking to her, but ended up whisking her away in about 30 seconds. Here's how he did it: when she asked him for his name, he refused to give it to her, saying it doesn't matter because it's not about him and she should be talking to his friend instead. I said he shouldn't be so hard on himself and he said something like, "I don't have to have a good night tonight. I have a good night every other night." This feels a bit reactive to me, but it worked because they were gone almost immediately. What do you guys think? Was this good game, or just the luck of the draw that HB6 wanted to leave with a guy at that moment and he happened to be there?
We were discussing where to go. The other guy into HB9 suggested his place and that everybody was on board. Then I said, "You guys are all welcome to come to my place. I have lots of alcohol." Immediately the girls go, "Yeah, let's go to his place," and it's decided. Damn it feels good to be a gangster. We split up so that my friend goes with HB9 and the other dude that's into her, and I go with HB6 and the DD. (We lost the other other guy by now).
This is when I start realizing that HB6 is really into me. I basically haven't even seen her in the club while we were there, so this is all based on the dinner earlier (and maybe she saw me talk to other girls). Back at my place, it's just the three of us for a while and she teases me about how I'm too passive, and how she likes aggressive men. Meanwhile, I'm laughing in my head because I wasn't planning on making a move on her, I've just been teasing for practice. Of course this is beginning to put thoughts in my head, and I'm starting to wonder what it would be like to sleep with a rubenesque woman like her. Oh and she's older too, probably in her early 30s (I'm 25), but she was very smart and I liked her personality. And she vaguely looked like a prof I had. Anyway, I decide to see how far I can take it without committing, so I deftly switch the subject to sex by showing them the chapter on the female orgasm from The 4-Hour Body. Then the three of us spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to add each other on Facebook using our phones. I know, I know I'm not supposed to add girls on Facebook like that, but I'm not actually interested in her sexually, but wouldn't mind being friends, so I think it's ok.
Finally the other three people arrive. My friend apparently talked HB9 into making chai for us and goes to his place to grab the supplies, but he's out of milk and I never keep any, so it is sadly cancelled. There is also some discussion of my paintings, which never fail to excite girls. By now, HB9 is all IOIs too, stealing glances and being much more touchy. The other guy is trying to enjoy himself but I can tell he's not having a good time. Probably because he's into this girl that is showing strong interest in another dude, in an intimate setting at that dude's house. They smoke cigarettes and at some point I casually say that we can smoke something else if they want to, and then I have to clarify that I mean weed. The two girls are down for it so I pack a pipe and we smoke. I just wanted to smoke a bit, and so did HB9, but HB6 happily keeps smoking it while it's available. In yet another proud moment, as I'm holding the pipe, I look HB9 in the eyes and say, "Have some more." She obediently leaves the other guy and takes another toke or two, even though she was obviously done.
We talk more about orgasms, and at some point, the two girls even do a quick smooch. For a second, I'm wondering how this all can be parlayed into a threesome, but I don't have that sort of experience so I don't dwell on it. At some point HB9 makes signs to me that indicate that HB6 is into me. Then the other guy starts quietly trying to convince HB9 to leave with him. She keeps glancing at me, I wink at her, and she clearly doesn't really want to go. I think HB9's thought process went something like this: "Well I'm really attracted to AnotherSedditAccount, but he's obviously going to hook up with HB6, so staying here is just going to ruin everything for everybody. The other guy is alright and I know him already, so I'll leave with him." It sounds like not much happened with the dude anyway, because she was home within about an hour.
When they are leaving, I say to her, "HB9, when are you going to make me chai?" She responds with, "I don't know, when you call me?" So I say, "Ok, gimme your number," and go grab my phone. I have my hand around her waist as she's giving me her number, and I'm entering it properly into my contacts, taking my time. Then I give her a hug. All of this in front of the other people. The other guy is a good sport about it and even goes for a hug with me too.
Once they left, I decided to start escalating with HB6. I wasn't sure how to make it obvious for the remaining two people to leave so we just kept hanging out. Eventually, around 5am, my friend is falling asleep and finally goes home. When the DD goes to the bathroom, I just ask her point-blank, "Are you going to stay?" And we have a small conversation about it where she is basically telling me she wants to, but is using the fact that it's so late as an excuse. I don't care to pressure her too much, but I suggest if a few more times. She is really torn about, and the DD and I laugh about it. By now I have a hand on her ass and she rests her head on my shoulder. But eventually she decides that she's gonna go, telling me it's "too much trouble." I tell her that it's not for me, so she smiles at me and says, "Yeah, I know. But it is for me." Now I really wasn't that into her anyway, so it's not a big deal, but just from an academic point of you, was there anything I could've done to be more convincing?
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