[OFF TOPIC] I have a slight feeling that constinantly reading all of these points may have a negative effect on your psychological health

ThrowawayPUA · 2016-01-16T20:31:03+00:00

Nah, there are other subreddits for that. We don't want anything to do with them.

We generally start out full of misconceptions about women that make us cynical and negative. Our job is to learn and outgrow those unhealthy ideas, to replace them with positive ideas.

TheMinistryOfAwesome · 2016-01-17T09:44:28+00:00

I think that PUA is actually great, especially for women. It applies some level of "scientific rigor" to the whole process of becoming attractive. In doing so it kind of begins to work out a formula for how to attack the principal issue in life - how to be happy and content with yourself.

There are people who take it to extreme, and especially in this subreddit you really have to dig through the chaff and bullshit and repeated questions and

"Please help me, I know what to do but i just want other people to say it so that I can trust my decision because i'm not really confident enough to trust my own decisions..."

There are a lot of pretty broken people here and if the community helps them out and takes them out of some self-perpetuating misery then i'm all for it. Removing that from the world by providing such tools to help will overall increase the NET happiness of the world - again, i'm very cool with this.

I think what you learn most of all from pick up is that women are their own people and they have their own shit going on. IT makes you less selfish in a way because while people think you're learning to manipulate girls into fucking you - what is actually happening is that you're becoming less so. People start being a bit more comfortable with themselves, and lying less about the kind of person they are and as a result - coupled with the guy putting themselves out there to meet more women they're just coming across more and more people who might be attracted to their qualities. It's great - it helps both genders.

Fundamentally, however, the pickup community seems to have become less focused on women and more focused on "inner tranquility" as a method of self-help. Girls are almost a side effect - or at least the manifestation of that expression.

In terms of psychological health - I think in the same way that Male fashion advice teaches you to be a prim/proper/slim/skinny-jean wearing hipster (at least that's the common idea i've got from people commenting there) and how TheREdPill teaches you to be a dark-triading, dread gaming mother fucker who plates bitches; or even noFap that conditions all of its members to be insane supermen cuz they haven't cum in 4 days, the seduction world has a its weaker members who really over-focus on the problem. It's all good getting advice, it's all good getting support but people who want to live their life in and out of Seddit are essentially setting themselves up for a pretty shitty life.

The whole idea of pickup was created as a FIX to a hole in many modern peoples' lives, not as some final solution to all happiness. So the people that spend thelr lives (I'm thinking the 10,000 hour mastery dude who "just wants to slay as much pussy as possible", as an example but there are others too.) doing this shit, reading everything, overthinking everything are really the same kinds of people that we have on the boards saying "Well there's this one girl and she looked at me and smiled, I haven't been able to stop thinking about her for 3 weeks but havent spoken to her? Do you think I should ask her to marry me because I feel that she's the girl i want to spend my life with".

The final problem (which i face mostly) is the fact that there are so many styles, techniques, hacks(read: bullshit), methods, feelings, thoughts, unicorns, places, etc. that you can choose from that essentially you end up being pulled apart by all the different threads.

People will often criticise stuff too when they're basically amateur and don't know what they're speaking about. Others will just have style preferences and then slate the others. Ultimately the GURUs are making a living from selling their teaching and you have to take it all with a pinch of salt.

To summarise:

Too much investment in the movement isn't good. Do you really want to look back at the age of 93 and say "Well, I could fuck any girl i wanted but that's about all I had?"
Too much talk and too little action, ends up having people live vicariously and just deluding themselves. It's that whole "I smile a lot and really pretend that i'm happy but on the inside i hate myself and want to die" (so many requests can be solved with the response "just fucking do it"
Too much political bullshit "Oh indirect is shitty because X,Y,Z"
Too much repeated bullshit from people who don't really know what's going on. (Models is in vogue now... so read how many people talk about being honest)
This whole thing ends up taking the game to a World of Warcraft style levelling process with numbers K-closes and F-closes as experience points.
The best thing i've learned is that: A girl is a girl, I am me - she wants to find a great guy as much as I want to find a great girl. I use these skills and techniques to make myself less boring and more attractive in general - but leave it just as "I am a guy looking for a girl".

It's more like The Game is mostly about pre-processing.

TL;DR - I don't care, learn to read mother fucker. Forgive grammar/spelling or dont.

DonElDoug · 2016-01-17T01:41:41+00:00

PUA is not about getting laid, it's more about improve yourself. Be positive, be social and treat everyone with a positive energy. It will take you the fear from women, because there is nothing to be feared about. It gives you the ability to connect with people, no matter which gender. It makes you a better person.

Now you gain the skills and it depends on you how to use it.

palmerd21 · 2016-01-16T20:29:05+00:00

Your projecting. Just cuz you feel some type of way about women doesn't mean we do.

Title	[OFF TOPIC] I have a slight feeling that constinantly reading all of these points may have a negative effect on your psychological health
Author	TardyMcHardy
Upvotes	5
Comments	7
Date	January 16, 2016 8:26 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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