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what's to criticise?
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:29 PM
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Easy to make shit excuses. Easy to dwell on stupid things that require extreme actions to rectify rather than doing any number of the "menial" things that increase overall attractiveness and elevate your own life. If you want to dump 100k on getting surgery that: a) does not guarantee success or even help in the domain of finding girls b) may infact push you balls deep into uncanny valley where your apperance becomes weird and disproportionate c) requires some significant recovery time and proba…
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:36 PM
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Doing this is fucking stupid. Doing this so you can potentially fuck more women, or even date more or do all the other great things you might find in a relationship is also stupid. Putting aside all the risks, recovery and costs. It's just a crutch (rofl, right?) for failing to develop other parts of your character and self that might make you generally more attractive or valuable in terms of mate. If I was a chick and some dude had undergone surgery to increase their height, it'd be an absolute…
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:44 PM
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Whenever you want.
/r/seduction13/07/17 11:57 AM
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excercise, eat well and try to do competitive things. 5 brazil nuts per day (For selenium) Zinc per day Make sure you're also getting enough potassium (google: art of manliness testosterone)
/r/seduction12/07/17 09:32 AM
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Oh wait, this goes against my idea of personal freedoms.... So what i'll say instead is... "keep up the great work that helps us all, lads".. gg wp
/r/seduction04/07/17 10:04 AM
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Can we also have a rule about new content and not just a re-hash of the same old shit but with their new "personalised and revolutionary view" on something? But really, not just these shitty youtube videos, also the shitty links and blogs that every person and their dog are writing.
/r/seduction04/07/17 10:03 AM
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haha yes.
/r/seduction28/06/17 06:57 PM
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I dont agree
/r/seduction28/06/17 06:20 PM
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I mean, the post is appreciated, I wonder who needs this advice? Who doesn't know this already? It's a sad state of affairs if you're on a date to talk about how unlovable you are... poor guys haha
/r/seduction28/06/17 07:48 AM
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It's also the 100% incorrect way to begin any form of relationship. If they start it looking down at you (which in turn makes them feel better about themselveS) it's just never a good thing. And everything is in their control. 20lbs in 2 weeks is ridiculous. Get your shit sorted.
/r/seduction26/06/17 10:03 AM
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No, I started at either 30-31. I love my life. My teeth are still fucked up too.
/r/seduction26/06/17 06:09 AM
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The irony wasn't lost on me
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 07:38 PM
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Well, what I understand to be beta tendancies seems to be in line with the idea of provision, protecting and ultimately giving up yourself for the good of the family. I think in reality prior to the 60s the best men were those that exhibited a balance of Alpha and Beta characteristics. A good man was one that could protect and take care of his family also. This translates to leader positions within tribal socieities too. Too much alpha characteristic makes people something of a self-involved psy…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 10:29 AM
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Every marriage starts with the woman marrying somebody she dislikes. That is the only comment needed. Ridiculous.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 10:09 AM
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To evoke the protection behaviour, of course...
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 10:04 AM
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This is bullshit. Causal fallacy Not to be entirely dismissive and negative, or even overly confrontational. But (i know it is marked as a rant) this isn't helpful at all... it just supports the idea that all men in the TRP are bitchy mother fuckers that are angry at women for not giving them their pussy. You sprinkle a spin of TRP onto it "thirsty betas" etc. But ultimately you're the one posting to TRP about "how terrible this hot little 21 year old is" - why? You're already overinvested and r…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 10:03 AM
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Yes you can.. Practice, and putting yourself into more social situations. Stop gaming and keep repeating - every time you do your brain restructures just a little bit.. It's literally like bodybuilding. Small changes over long time accumulate.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 09:57 AM
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Well, this question is basically redundant to a degree, since it just 'is' a part of you. Sex is so important because it is encoded into everything you are as the primary driving force for your life. If sex wasn't important you'd be a broken human. There is no cerebral way to overcome a sex drive, it's base and primal, you might as well say "why do i always get anxious when confronting a possible threat" - even if that threat is something that doesn't manifest as an actual threat to your person.…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 09:55 AM
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I feel that with the capitalisation of the words PROBLEM RESTRAINT and all that jazz that the problem, in fact, was entirely within the OP's own mind. Not-drinking is an unusual enough thing for somebody to be interested in hearing about, in general. The emphasis probably highlights the typical RP mentality of "any girl is basically a cunt"
/r/TheRedPill12/06/17 10:16 AM
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I mean come on... it's quite obvious. The first 2 rules of fight club are in place specifically to enable (enabling, rather than allowing) people to break rules. They're there to encourage it and lead the members down the path.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/17 06:05 PM
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Still not consuming any form of sugar since January. Muay thai/BJJ training 5x per week minimum
/r/TheRedPill14/05/17 05:57 PM
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do you need a reply to this? Really?
/r/seduction23/01/17 02:41 PM
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This is really just a rehash of everything that people seem to be contributing again and again. Instead of explaining the dating and pickup scene using this analogy we will rephrase it, pass it to another analagous situation and then say it over and over. That isn't to say that it isn't the way the OP thinks of dating but really it does not provide a great way to help others. It's kind of too vague and passive. "Do nothing and feel your emotions until you feel a pop" - i mean... really? "Get app…
/r/seduction23/01/17 11:39 AM
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Follow advice - as much as I complain about the trawling in seddit there is a lot of gold here. Gym, work out Do sports (competitive - boxing, muay thai) it'll toughen you up Check out your style and improve it. (as mnentioned below) shaved head is always better than balding. Maybe grow a beard, just work on your style. (this is a whole sub-genre and takes practice, investment and a lot of learning (at least it did for me) but ultimately your style exponentially increases the more inshape you be…
/r/seduction19/10/16 05:24 PM
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That is a very good mentality :). I wish you well
/r/seduction19/10/16 05:00 PM
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Well frankly it's terribly defeatist attitude to take. Okay they're better looking than you - I guess that means you'll never pull a girl right? Or maybe that no chick, hot or otherwise would ever contemplate letting you put your dick in them? Imagine their response to the idea that you might make a good LTR candidate? Ha! Ridiculous. Now that the silliness is out of the way lets be a little bit more realistic and not cynically nihilistic. As is mentioned over and over and over and over and over…
/r/seduction19/10/16 04:06 PM
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The whole premise of the interaction is kind of off. "i've tried to timidly make some kind of conversational connection with her. I think she noticed the desire in my eyes because i've not jerked off in a few days". You're approaching this whole thing from entirely the wrong angle. You're already too invested in the girl.
/r/seduction19/10/16 03:54 PM
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That is the default these days. I stopped bothering here because it was all just re-hashing of the same shit, with new and "insightful" views to achieve the same thing repeated ad naseum. Plus all these next generation pua cowboys making their own sites like: "begoodwithgirls.com; liveinflow.org; blbeh bleh". It may be the cynical side in me but there's a certain irony to everything being some pseudo-philosophical discussion rather than just field reports that are insightful and inspire debate/d…
/r/seduction19/10/16 12:28 PM
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"I've tried to cut her out of my life but she doesn't understand that" ++ so i let her continue to whine and bitch at me and use me as her girlfriend. She wants validation and to feel attractive so she uses me as a tampon to up her ego while she's making up bullshit excuses ('emotionally cheated on me': ridiculous) and getting railed by a guy that is better than me. Honest advice: "I don't give a fuck, talk to your girlfriends about that I have better things to do "
/r/seduction05/10/16 04:40 PM
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There are so many non-sequiturs in this that it basically reads like shit. What the fuck are you talking about? "Love == Pegging" "Love should be banned "when you say 'I love her' you mean "I'm a sick pervert that wants to be fucked in the ass" I mean, where to begin? 1) This is not game theory. It's not even 'game' theory. 2) You really just need to get over the woman that broke you. 3) This is irrational and delusional tripe. 4) Are you projecting your own shame related to the fetish of being …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/16 10:01 AM
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You think having clothes that fit well is a lower level than having a social life and keeping fit? Or enough money to avoid stress more survival orientated than keeping fit? Ridiculous - Maslow would be turning in his grave...
/r/TheRedPill22/06/16 06:43 PM
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It's because you're seeing them as potential wives. Overly invested already. And it is probably jealousy.
/r/seduction14/06/16 08:51 AM
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You know what to do, you know exactly what you have to do... everyone goes through it. If you can't and will just not - then don't... and don't meet girls. Bite the bullet or deal with it being a pussy :) (not to sound harsh but this is the most fundamental thing you can take from the situation - everything about game is founded on the ability to at least get over that hurdle and whatever techniques you can try whatever you can say or do or advice be given ultimately nobody but you can do it. ) …
/r/seduction11/06/16 12:38 PM
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I dont think this comment is helpful really. Just help him if you can and don't if you can't. DOn't get onto some righteous commentary about how "you're selling a false sense of yourself " bleh bleh bleh. You absolutely should post pictures of yourself that paint you in the best light. IF you can't even get the initial attraction enough to get a swipe right then you can't even get to game. Better to have 100 dates and 90 of them not be okay with the date than get 1 date and have her happy with t…
/r/seduction11/06/16 11:58 AM
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Do the challenge and post it here.
/r/seduction30/05/16 11:20 AM
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Exactly that. Just cut chicks out ofr your life for a while and then run through the sadness - you have to jumpstart yourself into being able to achieve happiness without the need for the gals bouncing up and down in your lap :D
/r/seduction30/05/16 11:19 AM
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Ego mostly. However I think that dopamine style response to get the good feeling of "the win" is probably not an entirely bad thing. What it also means is that you seem to measure your own happiness entirely on your ability to fuck chicks and the direct correlation is that "more hot more frequency is equivalent to more happiness". If you're doing it this way, you're doing it wrong. My recommendation is to stop entirely and whenever you feel like shit try to do something new in your life.
/r/seduction30/05/16 10:09 AM
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I had something like this with a girl. She was nervous about meeting me "in case you're some axe murderer" so she wanted to bring her sister. My reply was: "That will be a weird threesome for you" Naturally that might not be such a great line if the other person is Dave. But the point is: If you're going on a date, there is no bringing other people.
/r/seduction30/05/16 10:01 AM
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I don't think this is entirely true.. I ust think that people who are physically ugly are outliers. The fact that attraction is made up of so many things also means that people can compensate for areas they lack.
/r/seduction30/05/16 09:57 AM
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"They didnt friendzoned me because i didnt had any intentions that way" Are you really being true here? Or is this just an easy way for you to justify never fucking them? As for gapped teeth, I wouldn't worry about it. Arnie could probably fit a microphone cord through his teeth and still managed to fuck the nanny, and the wife, and a bunch of others. Anyway, being british my teeth are pretty fucked up - but i've never heard it mentioned. I guess it might have turned off a few people in my life,…
/r/seduction30/05/16 09:56 AM
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I'll post something more extensive later but: I think it's pretty difficult to be ugly if you're slim, in shape, etc. It's even harder to be ugly if you're jacked It's even harder to be ugly if you exhibit characteristics that are considered attractive: Social Proof Confidence Lea.... etc. You get the idea. Chances are they're not attracted to you because you follow the vibe of being ugly and insecure. They friendzoned you :)
/r/seduction29/05/16 07:43 PM
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Make sure the venus and mars are aligned, otherwise you're fucked
/r/seduction24/05/16 09:45 AM
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Well, it's fair enough. you're right that I don't really know you, your friends or whatever. But basically you write a post and we build a picture and put the situation into some context that is constructed in our mind. Obviously it won't be 100% correct - we work with what you give us. It is a model. From your post, your situation and what you said these are the impressions I got. But to bring it back to the main point. It's true that some people asser themselves by putting others down and maki…
/r/seduction22/05/16 10:05 AM
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War is a team sport too ;)
/r/seduction22/05/16 07:13 AM
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Well it makes sense doesn't it? Of course your friends are going to "alpha up" on you when you're maing progress with a girl they want to fuck. There are a few things that you need to realise though. 1) Your friends might not have the same commitment/understanding/awareness of seduction and therefore may not be aware of the social etiquette of that fraternity. 2) They might not even realise they're being a dick by alpha upping you - or even that they are putting you down. 3) Their social groups …
/r/seduction22/05/16 07:11 AM
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minus one for abritrary over use of the word toxic.
/r/seduction22/05/16 07:00 AM
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I never said it's creepy. Nor did I say it had to be a concern for you. What I did say is that doing daygame doesn't align with how i think I should be living - at least the standing around part of it. Instead daygame for me has been reduced to opportunisic engagements. I'll be doing something and spot a girl rather than goingout to find girls. IF you want negative judgements tell the average person you read about pickup and seduction and see what kind of look they give you.
/r/seduction21/05/16 06:08 AM
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Well that's it... It feels that pickup/daygame is just too contrived. Now i'm all for just having fuck buddies and banging chicks that you think are hot but occasionally it's nice to get to know people a little deeper than the length of your cock. I think really my problem is that man yof my friends are either married with kids or socially reclusive meaning I have a relatively small amount of time "hangning with my buddies". Perhaps I just need some more friends :)
/r/seduction20/05/16 07:04 PM
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We should set up a sub-thread/reddit called "Pickup for 30+" :D 2 years ago i came out of a 9ish year relationship too.. went through a phase of burning through chicks and now I have some regular (but relatively average) FWBs ... and have lost interest to be going out "on the pull" or doing "daygame".
/r/seduction20/05/16 07:01 PM
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I feel you bro. I spend so much of my life training - and essentially engaging in vastly male orientated sport/acitivities and all the friends I have in the nearby area are vaguely reclusive or married. I'm 32 years old and there is a part of me that really feels that it's a bit lame for somebody my age to be standing on the street waiting to stop some cute girl (in her early 20s - or late or whatever) and try to pick her up. To make it clear, i basically don't do it. I'm an opportunistic bastar…
/r/seduction20/05/16 01:00 PM
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do you read the side bar? Do you read? or just lazily fire and forget some question that has been asked and answered a million times over and over and over and over ad nauseum
/r/seduction13/05/16 09:26 AM
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foreword
/r/seduction13/05/16 09:24 AM
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WEll there you go.. that's your first step towards being a valuable male partner. Keep going and stop being a fat cunt (I was very much in this same situation, went up to 285-300lbs... and now I'm 200 and a beast) - regarding calling you a 'fat cunt' .. it'snot meant to be insulting but really to highlight the STARK reality you need to understand. If you sit around all day eating cheesits, drinking soda, on your computer being an internet badass then you have to come to terms with the fact that …
/r/seduction13/05/16 09:13 AM
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100% agreed. with a 50/50 distribution of male/female you might get 30,000 chicks. Maybe drop that to 10,000 for "age range that i'd be willing to fuck" It's easier to be a bad ass big mother fucker who is awesome in a smaller pond right? I think the "self-limiting belief" is spot on here. Fundamentally people look for any excuse to avoid hard work and that hard work in OP (and most people in seddit)'s case is to improve themselves. If this guy had made his own internet business, racked up a for…
/r/seduction13/05/16 09:11 AM
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this is the new age trend of all these 18 year olds... lets make a blog and pretend all to be experts. I've never dated a girl whose mother didn't like me - anecdotal right? But even in represented culture it's usually the father that dislikes the boyfriend... because his princess is getting violated by that guy.
/r/seduction13/05/16 09:08 AM
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your response is unhelpful and essentially alluding to some bullshit about not giving a fuck what people think. Yet in every walk of seduction/pua community wisdom social proof is a major attractor and so asking this question is a legitimate one for strategising the process. Get off your high horse. OP, do you have gals at work? I normally insist getting pictures with the girls i go out with from work. Alternatively approaching a chick and say "oh fuck wow, your earrings are great, let me get ap…
/r/seduction09/05/16 01:51 PM
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approach many many girls.
/r/seduction09/05/16 01:45 PM
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When i smoke I basiclaly just schedule that week for "do nothing". I relax, sleep a lot and just generally have a good chill time but if I want to be doing anything even vaguely taxing on the body/mind it's just a no no. Cut it out for a bit. 1 week on 3 weeks off :)
/r/seduction08/05/16 09:29 AM
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I think also a point you were nearing but didn't quite click with is this: You're trying to make it some deen fantastic spirtiual affair of the heart... It seems to me that you see the girls you bang as some objects of this romanticised idea of what youi think love should be. Love in this sense can't work unless both people feel it and ultimately you cant push anyone into it. You need to really hold yourself back from falling into the infatuation while you all spend time together. Just because y…
/r/seduction07/05/16 09:04 PM
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The problem is really the amount of value and sentiment you put on your feelings for these girls. So you've hung out with them, you fucked them and then you start growing some attachment to them... but really does this attachment come because you guys are just amazing for each other... or does it come out of the imperative to be with 'anyone' and they just happen to really be the most available. Your words suggest that you're maybe not dealing this from a 'scarcity' mentality but i'd still reall…
/r/seduction07/05/16 09:19 AM
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Perhaps you're right actually. My posts have been a little confrontational of late but really it stems from the fact that as much as i like the community and try to provide/get out as much value as possible there seems to just be a lot of pretend experts offering some reaally diluted "tips and hacks" as a way of bypassing the work people have to put into the whole thing. I agree that these techniques are useful - but this and so many other things are just framed as "use this hack to overcome app…
/r/seduction05/05/16 12:38 PM
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Well you do make a valid point. I guess my point was that people in fact do use it as a replacement rather than a supplement.
/r/seduction05/05/16 12:36 PM
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:) Most ideas do, time makes everything transient
/r/seduction05/05/16 11:22 AM
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Ultimately if you're going to rely on tips/hacks/shortcuts then you'll never be tempered in fire. The people who actually are those that people here are trying to emulate in their "alphaness" or social presence/standing/smv/etc. are usually those that have been forged in the fire of adversity. It sounds preachy and wishy washy but ulimately you learn to deal with approach anxiety by dealing with it. You learn to not give a fuck by experiecing shit that puts the minutiae of "talking to a random c…
/r/seduction05/05/16 11:21 AM
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well that's exactly it. it's not that.. it's just about presence, more than anything
/r/seduction05/05/16 11:18 AM
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ACtually maybe you're saying here that people should get some acting coaches to help.... that isn't a bad idea. Otherwise your point is basically irrelevent.
/r/seduction05/05/16 08:27 AM
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read above
/r/seduction05/05/16 08:26 AM
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No he isn't. It's not a hollywood media fantasy he is showing. There are people that you walk by on the street and think "I'm not going to fuck with him" and then there are people who you feel dominant over. He is using a movie clip to illustrate his point not fucking delude the world. If you think that the idea of conveying subtle intimidation (which frankly is a poor way of describing it) is wrong or trying to adopt it as a technique for "being more alpha" or whatever causes non-congruence or …
/r/seduction05/05/16 08:26 AM
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I think you should post to the thread currently above yours.. Well done. Get past the brag... tell us things you learned :)
/r/seduction05/05/16 08:17 AM
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it's amazing how some pua dude from RSD or whateve mentions a book title then all of a sudden, a week later, these become raved abouts age-old tomes of wisdom in the community. It's kind of funny. Really, as awesome as I think this post is... I think it generally does a disservice to the majority of the community. It's the simple "too many cooks..." thing. Now , with this, there are a bunch of different techniques to use to overcome approach anxiety pulling people too many different ways. I guar…
/r/seduction05/05/16 08:15 AM
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A fish teaching you how to go fishing. Sounds plausible
/r/seduction04/05/16 02:31 PM
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To really reiterate the point of /u/TheXXL IF you're asking the question "how do i salvage this interaction" you're doing it wrong. It basically implies that you're supplicating to her view of the world. It really shows just how fragile you are (p.s. feel free to salvage this interaction) - i'd work on that first.
/r/seduction04/05/16 02:30 PM
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1) your height. What are you going to do? Nothing. You can't change it, get over it. The fact of the matter is this: you can be attractive, more so or less so depending on so many different qualities that height becomes basically irrelevent. Height is just spouted because it's one of the most shallow ways of categorising people. If you have never spoken to a chick, or ever met her or done anything except glare at her from the side of the room the only way you can measure her is on her physical a…
/r/seduction04/05/16 02:26 PM
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To be honest, i think this is bullshit. Most people want affirmation and validation. That's why most people sit around with their buddies and bitch/talk about shit that's going on and have a couple of beers. "oh did you see the game last night.." it's all about empathy with others about relatable materials. The main issue when it comes to men and women seems to be primarily that they have dissimilar interests enough to not really give a fuck. If some chick, or some dude is talking to me about th…
/r/seduction04/05/16 02:17 PM
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No
/r/seduction29/04/16 12:16 PM
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Thank you for this. In my posts i usually end up side tracked about the irrelevence of most of the posts here and ones that can be resolved to one of two problems: you're over invested just fucking do it (and see what happens?) less circle jerk you're over invested AND -For Clarity's sake you're -over -fucking -invested.
/r/seduction28/04/16 03:26 PM
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You know, I see this kind of post a lot and it grinds me a little. The problem is this: you're not actually following the advice of this community. you're simply looking at the results that you want and then having a pretty half-assed push at achieving them and then failing. Once you fail, you use that to reinforce your own negative view and then come for comfort in seddit. Go out and work on yourself. If you have to compare yourself to everyone else, then let me ask you these things: Any guy th…
/r/seduction24/04/16 11:01 AM
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Interestingly. I've tried a lot of the OG pua techniques that were described in The Game - they worked a charm for me. That said, ultimately, with the spunking of new websites dedicated to all these 18-21 year olds' disseminiation of dating wisdom, coupled with a thousand other tips, techniques, hacks etc. I've very much adopted the inner game (as i guess everyone has) idea of just working on myself. I also think so many people get hung up on real bullshit things like "approach anxiety" that the…
/r/seduction24/04/16 10:53 AM
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So is there anywhere to buy the Sex God method (or download it) where it doesn't cost 150$? In UK from amazon, it's not possible to get it as it's under review. I hear lots of good things and i'm eager to read it, I would appreciate anyone sorting me out.
/r/seduction24/04/16 10:49 AM
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At 19 year old i guess my fave was pretty baby-faceish too actually .Now i'm 32 years old but most people swear that i'm in my mid twenties. So it'll be okay for you in the long run. Focus on the career/servce (don't want to get killed if you're deployed) , focus on you rlearning and staying in shape. Make sure you get your shit together. 1) Baby face - What can you do? Probably nothing. If you weren't in the military i'd say grow out some beard of stubble otherwise cutting is probably your best…
/r/seduction17/04/16 09:26 AM
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Interesting concept - Trying to get a logical explanation to push away your emotions. Good luck, let me know if it works. i'd like to believe in the general intelligence of my fellow man so let me say this: "Courage is not the absence of fear, but continuing in spite of it". I'm sure you can draw the analogy to your emotional response to women in your life. You're a logical guy. Take consideration of your emotions, then render your decision from a logical rational place and follow that one. Easy…
/r/seduction17/04/16 08:00 AM
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First of all: I am not a slob I work out they don't provide enough information to really allow a good response. Perhaps you're boring. Perhaps your body language is shit... perhaps they just have their own life going on and you very much blend into the background surroundings because you walk past them all and never appraoch.
/r/seduction17/04/16 07:57 AM
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It's fine.That kind of physical approach has more extreme (read:polarising response) but if you approach with an obviously fun, friendly attitude then in most cases you'll get a happy response. Even for most of the times when you don't get a happy response and they're uncomfortable with it, the girls will just slide out from your arm and not really cause conflict (nobody really wants conflict do they?) - I appreciate that making people uncomfortable in that way might be considered too much for s…
/r/seduction17/04/16 07:52 AM
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You can game... but you'll be faking it a long time. To be honest, i've always found it hard to believe that "I am the shit" when... i don't think i'm the shit. Usually having my life on point will mean that everything else falls into place
/r/seduction17/04/16 07:38 AM
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The thing is this - to essentially reiterate what others have said - Lets say some girl wants to be taken to some exotic far away land full of fortune and promise but there is an ocean in the way. YOu, being a man, have the transport capability to take her there. You can take any girl, in any way you choose as long as you can convince her to get in your boat. However your boat might be a little rubber paddle boat or it might be a 100ft yacht with. Your life determines the quality of that boat.
/r/seduction16/04/16 07:10 AM
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There's a difference begween negging, playfully teasing and being a cunt :)
/r/seduction15/04/16 01:29 PM
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As much as i enjoy the purpose of this post. To encourage people to get approaching i really do find the method really abrasive. The type of argument that is made is just very poor. It's similar to toothpaste/cosmetic commercials that use pseudo-technical terms to sound more scientific so that people will find their product more legitimate. The whole purpose to the seduction community is to decodify the method of seduction by ultimately applying more empirical and scientific rigor to the process…
/r/seduction11/04/16 06:51 AM
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Too much investment
/r/seduction08/04/16 07:04 AM
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then don't do it and never express your interest gg wp
/r/seduction08/04/16 07:04 AM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:44 PM
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There you go. Now, just to make sure that I've not done some poorbastard out of wisdom. Please answer your original question here. I am convinced you know how to get past this issue - and the steps you need to take to overcome the problem.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:27 PM
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well, i agree with that idea to be honest, the goldilocks. But i think it affects men and women similarly. and is fundamentally founded in a low feeling of self-worth. Both of them. You get guys all the time doing it to justify why they're not attracted to some super hot women "they're just some dizzy bimbo bleh bleh bleh". In fact, on my recent trip I kind of had it. I met a girl, she was cute we were flirting nd getting on nicely, then i met her friends who were both more attractive than her -…
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:26 PM
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it means the question is basically irrelevent because it's already been answered a thousand times over and is a redundant effort. You know exactly how to fix the problem and so does everybody else. Do you really just need 100 people to tell you the same thing you already know? Ultimately, that kind of validation is textbook beta, bitch, pussy, low-value, etc. behaviour.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:19 PM
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Forget her, move on... Don't bother trying to get out of the friendzone, just don't be with her. Ultimately, the idea that you should man up and stop being a bitch, while slightly crass, is on point. Whatever future interaction you have with this girl will be tainted by the fact that she knows you're a self-admitted beta bitch right now. Get on with it.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:10 PM
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The kid isn't even an expert at life yet. But to his credit... at least he's doing something with his life, better than trawling reddit trying to find a cheat code for pulling some natural 10 and then posting about how you "almost approached a woman today" so you can be validated with the massive circle jerk of people who are equally trying to be awesome super-alpha types.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:08 PM
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To be honest if you're thinking this way you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:06 PM
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To answer your question... yes. My personal take on this is that if they friendzone you then they've dug the hole for their own grave. If i was even vaguely interested in being "friends" with a girl i was attracted to, if she basically decides i'm friend material rather then boyfriend material she is instantly off my list of acceptable sexual partners. It's hard to really pretend you have abundance mentality or that "you are the prize" or that "you're the king" when you're arbtrarily cast aside …
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:03 PM
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1) her boyfriend thing was bullshit. 2) your text game was probably lame and needy 3) She ghosted you and then when you blanked her she came back; She wants validation. 4) She already fucked you off, already denied you and blocked you with "I have a boyfriend" anything else is irrelevent. Move onto the next girl and forget her. But come on... you already knew this.
/r/seduction28/03/16 06:59 PM
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This doesn't need answering.
/r/seduction28/03/16 06:57 PM
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Though despite my comments on your first post. I actually think that you're kind of right about men shit-testing too. But to be honest, the idea of shit-testing is kind of subjective base don context, as i previously mentioned. What it is is a technique to measure the person. Everybody does it. Men and women are different, and within that domain people are different, what is a good answer for one gender might not be the same good answer for the other gender. I don't think it is really based on t…
/r/seduction28/03/16 06:56 PM
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Not to be too harsh with you, but your point is kind of silly. Original pickup material is not ineffective - if it were it'd probably not have generated the current material. It has simply evolved. Nothing is misogynistic about calling stuff "shit testing" and "qualifying" they are context-based attributes based on the subject's perspective. If somebody is trying to get you to qualify then it is a shit-test because in the context of the situation, with the goal you're trying to achieve it is an …
/r/seduction28/03/16 06:51 PM
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left left left up down down right X O O X
/r/seduction28/03/16 06:42 PM
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I guess it depends how you say it or whether you're being genuine or not
/r/seduction28/03/16 11:11 AM
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Same fallacy. If it were just a numbers game then why even bother pickup? Why not just ask out women and hope for the best? Asking out "the numbers" is just the pre-requisite for being able to play the game.
/r/seduction12/03/16 09:08 PM
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100% numbers game is a fallacy - it's just a way of giving away agency to avoid improving. The fact is to say it's a numbers game completely undermines the whole principle of Seddit/pickup in that you're saying "oh it's just about chance whether a girl likes you" rather than being able to select and seduce the woman you want.
/r/seduction12/03/16 07:34 PM
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I hope it helps mate, good luck
/r/seduction11/03/16 03:45 PM
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I mean, it makes me frustrated to even read this. In my past few years of personal growth - there is no room for people who have that kind of regard for me. 1 - you asked too many times.. Bullshit - don't do it again 2 - She is literally slapping you in the face with "i already made plans with a guy friend" - I mean... that is cringe worthy. 3 - As other people have mentioned you most definitely need to get other women in your life. But the REAL lesson learned for you here should be that with mo…
/r/seduction03/03/16 06:57 PM
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I didn't mean to come off as a totally negative twat - so don't worry about that. I appreciate that in the beginning there is so much that one doesn't know (myself included - i'm no pro) and even things that you don't know you don't know. To be honest, I wouldn't even let it bother you in the slightest. Maybe the girls had said - "have you been out with /u/MendedMindFrame before? He looks so great and fun - I would love to fuck him" and the other one, not knowing you well shook her head. The poi…
/r/seduction03/03/16 02:34 PM
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I just don't know how anyone can make a reasonable comment without sufficient information.
/r/seduction03/03/16 12:00 PM
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Rejection is a purely transitorial thing. If anything as long as you're reasonably well put together most girls will be attracted to you given the right circumstances etc.
/r/seduction03/03/16 09:55 AM
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Good, I think that's the weirdest thing about approach anxiety - you don't realise how good/easy/rewarding it is until you do it. And I dont think i've ever approached without feeling elated afterwards - It's great that you managed to do it - even if you didn't get the number it doesn't mattter the fact is now that you've just built yourself the first part of the toolset that you'll need to attract and pickup a fantastic girl. Great work
/r/seduction03/03/16 09:54 AM
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The problem here really seems to be your level of social conditioning and the expectation of your behaviour as a result. You're concerned about bothering people in a rush, or forcing hi etc. But the reality is this: You should be doing exactly what YOU feel like doing - (and at first it might be deceptive and feel like you don't want to do it) - or think will get you where you want to be in life. Being concerned about others over such inane things is just kind of bullshit. If you make her late, …
/r/seduction02/03/16 12:57 PM
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Firstly, I don't think having a hangup about having your V-card in your 20s counts as emotional baggage. It's just you being insecure. Secondly my threshold for what condones "losing it" is incredibly high. Can't be someone you met online, can't be someone you asked (has to be implied), doesn't count it i don't finish, doesn't count if she doesn't finish, doesn't count if she didn't love it, doesn't count if she regrets it. It just goes on and on and on. And i know i'm not gonna be able to get o…
/r/seduction02/03/16 12:40 PM
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Yet another ridiculous question. My recommendation for knowing how old somebody is before speaking to them is to perform the ancient tradition of coffemancy - where you look into a cup of coffee, shake it around a bit and then utter the famously arcane words "Thou shalt tell me thy age of the women i look at, and display it as a number above hear head like a damage score in WoW!"
/r/seduction02/03/16 12:17 PM
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Well to be honest, it just means you're not really being interesting enough. If she was into you and interested and feeling great about the interaction she wouldn't leave.
/r/seduction02/03/16 11:59 AM
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1) Actually have sex with women who were interested rather than trying to be some white knight, high morality dickface. 2) go to lectures and study 3) probably take less drugs
/r/seduction02/03/16 11:26 AM
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+1 for the name of the post. I know exactly this feeling - Usually if i go out with the intention of gaming, i get a bit all up in my head and am thinking too much about getting it on with women - I'm definitely more aware of the outcome and usually end up not having the best night. Furthermore having set myself up at my new work place as "a player" amongst the guys having pulled 3-4 girls each time i did for the first nights out mean that the ego and expectation is set that I have to be a playe…
/r/seduction02/03/16 11:24 AM
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I have always been the awkward, narcissist type Ugh. It sounds like you mostly need to work on your IRL - i'd focus on that and not bother with tinder/PoF too much for now. I haven't signed up to POF/Match/Eharmony/Fetlife yet but will be as soon as I get my appearance squared away. I have, however, been trawling tinder. I don't do brilliantly (mostly due to my profile pictures being average at best) but I still do it, meet girls, get laid etc. I don't believe the bullshit about it being a numbe…
/r/seduction02/03/16 11:18 AM
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Yes All of that text for a simple question for which you already have the answer.
/r/seduction02/03/16 10:54 AM
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After seeing pretty much every one of these posts consensus on the same point what have you learned?
/r/seduction27/02/16 07:49 PM
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I wrote a massive post basically calling you an idiot - but i accidentally closed it... irony right? 1) If you really think you're ugly beyond redemption, you're a stupid fuck. 2) You need to work on the way you think about shit, you exaggerate to the millionth degree to give your relatively petty concerns more gravitas. If you can't be real to yourself and are going to sit in a delusional stupor the rest of your life then you might as well just be alone. 3) You are very bitter. Lashing out at w…
/r/seduction27/02/16 01:46 PM
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whether it's genuine or not that's not what is said - if he isn't aware of them he can still be perfectly genuine. Well why can't it be some cocky kid unaware of his weaknesses? There's no reason it can't. Basically the reason you conclude that is because you assume "kids" to be naive and unwise and ultimately full of shit - which for the most part I agree with - but it still doesn't mean it's not possible. Cocky isn't fake, like confidence, it can be... but it doesn't have to be. I think what y…
/r/seduction25/02/16 04:43 PM
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It most definitely is strong. It is meant to be because this kind of question seems quite pointless. I appreciate that there are levels of questions here on seddit - but alot of them are really quite lame. No value, no contribution and they don't teach/educate anybody. The wisdom of the community is to provide anecdotal field reports and help people work through some of the complexities of developing pickup - to ask something like this isn't helping anyone. Read it again: "Do I approach a girl w…
/r/seduction25/02/16 04:39 PM
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Totally. The problem with society in general is that they accept the bullshit ideal that if they directly experience, feel, automatically perform it then it's somehow correct. The fact is, all emotions are developed from the mammalian brain and represent a complex set of behaviours that allow you to function as a mammal. They evolved for an environment that is significantly different than ours today and essentially fire at the wrong times. Think of a moth flying into a flame - similar principle.…
/r/seduction25/02/16 02:09 PM
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I agree with everything - but confidence doesn't require that you be aware of weaknesses, or improve them. Whatever effects there are caused by that young kid having confidence (and being naive about his own limitations/etc.) are irrelevent to the "I have confidence" statement. Also the supposition that he might get stabbed through that facade is just that, supposition and it's not guaranteed to happen at all - or even be possible. Fundamentally you assume that a person with confidence and weakn…
/r/seduction25/02/16 01:47 PM
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I honestly am starting to think that there are a group of people trolling this subreddit with ridiculously inane questions.
/r/seduction25/02/16 10:26 AM
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Showing sexual interest isn't bad... but going from a friend -> sex partner is a dangerous game and is a fantastic way to get friendzoned as a validation pump. If she is hamstering she'll be more cautious (of course this is all suppostion based on my experience) because she'll be trying to figure it out - i guess. As for examples: Lets say you're walking with a group of friends down the street, and you grab her and say "come here, it's cold!" and pull her against you, put youar arm around her an…
/r/seduction25/02/16 09:13 AM
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This is an interesting question actually. IT's a tough one however it's something i've thought about too. Basically my conclusion was this: If i don't feel 100% about going out i'll go out anyway irrespective of how I feel. A great example is training - i get battered and bruised and sore from it but always come out feeling great. Even if i feel a bit shitty to begin with, intellectually I know that by the end it'll be wonderful and so I take feelings out of the equation totally. "I have decided…
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:58 AM
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Oh and... do you even read the Seddit front page? This exact question was asked 3hrs before you posted. - downvote
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:57 AM
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Okay, to answer - i might not be able to answer them all but i'll have a go: 1) I think it's hard to seduce friends because you've spent a lot of time with them and they have you placed in that "He's a friend" box/frame. To get past that you have to break out of that box and it's not always a trivial thing to do. I'm not sure what exactly the inner process of going from a girl being your friend to being attracted to you - but that can happen though I've never really actively done it. 2) Not sure…
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:56 AM
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Downvoted for encouraging people to be normal. Fuck normal.
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:39 AM
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one doesn't even need to read the whole post. (though i did) It's oneitis . But to a little more helpful - I honestly recommend hooking up with another couple of girls. Even if they don't have the same fire for this chick as long as they're cute and you think they're attractive. It's easy to say "you have oneitis" but it's not a rational thing, and it's quite difficult to rationalise an irrational feeling that is intense. Time will make it better, and that is totally catalysed when you're fuckin…
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:33 AM
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your dick can lie - and there are a thousand reasons you might not get it up for somebody you're attracted to or keep a hard on while pummeling something that feels nice... (how many people are attracted to a fleshlight?) Do what you want to do, if you think "Oh, i'd like to try this" then do it - if you're saying "Oh, am I bi rather than gay maybe I should fuck a girl to find out" then you're framing it wrong, i reckon. For the record, it sounds like you're going to have a cool time anyway - go…
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:31 AM
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IDo you just want sex or the whole start to finish process of seduction? If you just both want to have a go at fucking some hot chick might as well get a hooker - tell her the deal up front and have a great time.
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:28 AM
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This is an interesting question actually. IT's a tough one however it's something i've thought about too. Basically my conclusion was this: If i don't feel 100% about going out i'll go out anyway irrespective of how I feel. A great example is training - i get battered and bruised and sore from it but always come out feeling great. Even if i feel a bit shitty to begin with, intellectually I know that by the end it'll be wonderful and so I take feelings out of the equation totally. "I have decided…
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:25 AM
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Very evangelical. But for the most part I agree Another question though: what happens if a person isn't aware of his weaknesses but still exemplifies a confidant man? If you give a supremely confident guy all of my weaknesses and he doesn't even know he has them is he stilly truly confident? The point of the question is that confidence doesn't have the requirement of weakness.
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:19 AM
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He didn't say "I wanted to ask for her number the whole time but didn't, is that bad?". He said "I thought maybe I should have asked for her number", implying it's something he thought he was supposed to do. Oh well, now that you've cleared that up....
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:15 AM
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I get your pointm it does make sense and to be honest i was being a little overly critical - if you're in Seddit though and you're working on developing some cast iron balls so you can talk to girls (with the purpose of pickup in mind) then all the grunt and leg work is done on the approoach, it's just a little hurdle to ask the next thing. Seems silly not to do that too - now of course he is totally left thinking "I wonder whether our interaction developed attraction, or whether she was into me…
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:14 AM
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unless you're part of a greater community of people into pickup and utilising a common body of information to advance your ability to interact with and seduce women.
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:11 AM
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Yes. Of course there is - I don't understand the run of questions of late they seem to be asking questions that are just... well insanely trivial. I appreciate that from "inside the storm" the perspective is a bit different and everyone wants help. But to be honest the OP can answer his own question here - why would he need answers from this community? It's validation, reinforcement - dude, you already know the answer. Asking us our opinion is demonstrating your lack of confidence and trying to …
/r/seduction24/02/16 10:09 PM
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Well, we have your word for that (regarding women opening up like a book). And also, what you say is vulnerability is not vulnerability it's weakness. your'e right in that everybody has weaknesses, character flaws and things that aren't perfect. Vulnerability is opening those weaknesses up to the point that they can be exploited, seen/known. I don't think confidence is accepting your weakness, while it does include that part of it it's a bit more on top. The start of all of that, as you say, is …
/r/seduction24/02/16 05:11 PM
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I was talking about the monk :)
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 05:09 PM
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Well: "Want to go for a coffee?" - granted this is less useful if they're already in a coffee shop. There are plenty of different things you can invite them to if they're too young for alcohol. I think at your age everything from 18 up to 30 is probably an acceptable age range. I think you're asking the wrong question. Instead of "where can i find girls closer to my age" you should be asking "where can I find girls who are more capable of enjoying the things I want to do with them" Age matters t…
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:30 AM
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Have fun, take your time and learn with each other.
/r/seduction24/02/16 10:41 AM
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I understand the feeling dude - I had 7-8 years living with my missus and had to break up with her about 2 years ago. She didn't really cheat y - which meant it was harder in some sense because I didn't have something tangible to hate about her. I went through everything and was devastated. If you want to chat, as with other people here, you can hit me up any time. The exercise thing, I used to go powerlifting when i was very upset, gave me drive to become a beast - go with that, keep something …
/r/seduction24/02/16 10:08 AM
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For the record, setting himself on fire was a protest in order to bring attention to terrible actions and get change. I don't think it was selling out or giving up at all.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 09:52 AM
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I think vulnerability is a bit of a misnomer. It's not really vulnerability at all - more like some buzzword used to stick in peoples' mind as it cuts against the grain of what is thought to be "good" when doing pickup. People spit all about confidence, dominance, assertiveness, direct... vulnerability is almost an opposite to all of this. It's gimmicky - or at least misusing a word to encapsulate an idea or paradigm. That said, however, the fundamental point of what he means by vulnerability is…
/r/seduction24/02/16 09:46 AM
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Maybe she thought I was pathetic cause I studied alone :/ Wrong way to be thinking dude. If you're having to evade parts of your life that you enjoy because you're ashamed for being rejected, you're doing it wrong. Just talk to her, go to the library, act like you're unphased "I have girls coming out of my ears and I chose to ask you on a date, you're not intersted, oh well.. my world is fantastic, unlucky"
/r/seduction23/02/16 05:17 PM
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This question doesn't even need to be answered (or indeed asked) too much investment, too little abundance.
/r/seduction22/02/16 03:44 PM
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Agreed that TRP has its place... and similarly I had to cut backon reading it because it had me buying into some of the bullshit and ultimately becoming depressed that it wouldn't be possible to ever have a decent relationship with any female, ever... because "it'd just be my turn" - or with my current age i'm either having to choose from all the excess baggage of a fucked-out post-wall mother or some cock-loving slut riding the carousel. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with ge…
/r/seduction22/02/16 03:37 PM
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I like the red pill. I think what it stands for and what it does (at least its intention) is pretty fantastic. Some of the wisdom there is top notch and has helped me a lot; similar to nofap and seddit. So when you ask whether i'm criticising or praising it, a bit of both. But all in all i'm glad it's around. However as with all of these sub-reddits there are the share of misguided people who take it to a bad place. For TRP, this comes in the form of people who have been wounded and feel ultimat…
/r/seduction22/02/16 03:25 PM
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From what i understand of "thyroid problems" it's usually easier to see those kinds of problems from afar (haha) Also, I recommend staying away from any girl who is volatile. I recently found out that a girl i'm kind of... well dominating, has been depressed in the past and has tried to kill herself. It's a shitty thing and now I have to find the best way of de-coupling myself without fucking her up even more.
/r/seduction21/02/16 07:32 PM
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And ilkely subscribing to the rage that is /r/theredpill hahah In all seriousness though, well done. Don't forget your training young Skywalker, for that leads to the dark side.
/r/seduction21/02/16 07:30 PM
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For the PIED make sure you go through a full reboot - i noticed this effect on myself with women.
/r/seduction21/02/16 04:23 PM
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Well, it's not embarassing. If your'e autistic it's understandable. And to be honest, I'd like ot be able to tailor my response specifically to you but frankly i don't have much understanding of autism and so wouldn't know how to make it work specifially with you. Don't ever be embarassed of making yourself better.
/r/seduction21/02/16 01:14 PM
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You know what to do: go beast mode You're likely rejected because of the way you present yourself and interact with people. Even a small thing such as slouching can instantly turn somebody off. I was at a careers fair for my company last week and we were looking for new candidates who might be interested in working - the work is consultancy with a particular focus and out of all the candidates the one that really stood out was this guy, he seemed to have come from a relatively "working class bac…
/r/seduction20/02/16 02:03 PM
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"Every girl is open to the possibility of being swept off their feet by prince charming"
/r/seduction19/02/16 09:00 AM
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Don't bother looking him up. You already know what you need to do... you just need to do it dude - it's hard, but everythign in life that really cuts people into the right shape is difficult. You really can do it you just need to not be self doubting and realise that this is a process. Nobody succeeds without failure, so whatever anxiety you feel about approaching dont because ultimately it's not about getting a girl... but it's about following that foolproof way to being a more fantastic versio…
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:40 PM
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Get off the girl. Set your first step to be smaller. Rather than some girl you're attracted to to hit on her... just ask her something indirect and innocuous. In a worst case try to do it to a girl you're less attracted to. But i recommend starting with easier as a first step. Not everybody has the will/ability to just walk upto some random attractive girl and say "hey... you're cute..." for whatever personal reason. Ultimately if that's your block, do something smaller. But fundamentally, and t…
/r/seduction18/02/16 06:14 PM
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As some people have mentioned. People often say they're introverted when in fact they've just got shitty social skills. It's a method of excusing their shittiness with people-on-people interactions. Nobody wants to admit that they're worse than others and so they create these illusory reasons to excuse the fact that they've been shit, lazy or unwilling to put in the effort and commitment to long-term goals. Why aren't I jacked and he is so jacked? Genetics Why can't i get a girlfriend? I'm an in…
/r/seduction18/02/16 03:44 PM
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Not everyone has PIED, nofap isn't always needed for the power-ranger spirit. Also, good luck getting anyone to control how much you ejaculate. I think if people tried to do that in real life it'd be considered a war-crime.
/r/seduction18/02/16 11:34 AM
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And that is why the idea that "it's a numbers game" is a fallacy. Great work - well done.
/r/seduction18/02/16 09:59 AM
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I feel like I just got stopped on the street to buy car insurance
/r/seduction17/02/16 09:53 AM
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To be honest, if for no other reason than to reduce all doubt that she was into you you should have got her number. Then there would be a stronger "Im looking into your eyes and making you wet" thing going on. Obviously, eye contact is a sign of confidence, dominance and a great tool to be used - but it would have been nice if the supposition you make about her behaviour after telling her you look her in the eyes was accurate. No matter, it's a great thing to have. I like to do that all the time…
/r/seduction17/02/16 09:49 AM
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Improved my general work and personal life - great advice agreed
/r/seduction16/02/16 03:15 PM
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Sure i'm interested. I read it a while ago so you'll have to job my memory. But certainly am willing to help out
/r/seduction16/02/16 01:51 PM
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You just have to tell her straight to be honest. If you really do not want a relationship you can put it delicately but firm enough that she doesn't hold onto some glimmer of hope that she can eventually wear you down. If she's hurt by it, she's hurt - you can't control that - you can only be delicate.
/r/seduction16/02/16 01:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure that this book is considered required reading for any person on Seddit or in pickup.
/r/seduction16/02/16 01:39 PM
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This would have been much more awesome if it was the OP who had gone out with the killer instinct. But good on your friend
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:24 AM
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The first two points are pretty true, I agree. It's a devastating experience to have something you've sunk many good years of your life to come tumbling down because of the weakness of people - or having invested yourself into a relationship that wasn't as valuable to the other person - I totally understand that. The third is only half-true, it's not being in the anger phase that draws some of the mockery (though I don't think I was really being mocking) it's the actions of people driven by the …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 07:36 PM
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Nope, maybe not. I ultimately realised that my failed LTR was a failure of my own character and that my blue pill tendancies was through lack of understanding of the dynamic in which my relationship was constructed Plus, i didn't get cheated on, so maybe that helps. Anger leads to hate, hate to suffering and that's the way to the dark side.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 03:36 PM
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mommy Sure, if he has the aptitude or desire to start a business. Or a willingness to save loads of money for a time when he's too old to really enjoy it. You could make a similar argument for "why would anyone go out drinking when they could never have any joy in the present and simply offload it to some magical time when they are in a theoretically better place" ~~The fact is this is quite the opposite to the notion of "living in the moment" "enjoying the present" and ultimately trains people …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 12:13 PM
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I reckon I can take it - thanks for the heads up though dude :) It's just good to get all this stuff in early so that when the anger phase diminishes they're not left to be some damaged cynical jaded husks that hates half of society because AWALT, am i right?
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 11:04 AM
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Exactly, it's not wrong but their bitchiness is more or less going to be a reflection of their own sense of morality/expectation. I wonder how many of these girls are alone for valentines, or with some person who doesn't really "do it for them".
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 11:02 AM
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You know, this isn't letting the hamster spin. You qualified the reason and then started painting it in a negative light by saying that "oh it's a sense of entitlement that bothers me" - that is pretty much the anti-thesis of letting the hamster wheel spin. You essentially said stuff, validated it and explained yourself to them and they judged you poorly. Granted their responses were negative, but that was the direction you'd let it head because of your explanation. My suspicion is that their re…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 10:43 AM
5

Lesson Learned: Too many people here are damaged and automatically think any act that isn't shitting all over people is just another example of people being bitches.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 09:47 AM
1

To be honest the whole "whatever you say is shit, pussy and beta - go start lifting" is about as stupid as the idea that doing nofap will give you super powers. The fact is, unless you're a sociopath you're going to get some backlash from a false rape accusation - to be ostracised from society because they think you're a rapist is a very real thing and the notion that you're being a pussy because it's affected you is ridiculous. I say this: good on you for not kicking the guy's ass. Imagine how …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 09:42 AM
2

I wasn't misunderstanding at all.
/r/seduction10/02/16 02:09 PM
3

welcome to seddit. Nobody here is encouraged to dislike women or even think of them as less. This is just a reddit about purely living in a way that allows you to attract women and ultimately live a happier life for yourself, and for those with whom you choose to spend that time. Not sure what the point of this (O)post is though
/r/seduction10/02/16 09:47 AM
1

I agree - get another girl. To be honest, if you had multiple people you were interested in and truly living this idea of "abundance" you wouldn't be asking such a question here. You'd more likely just be "meh, fuck it"
/r/seduction10/02/16 09:44 AM
1

This is bad. It really is immature, it shows a lack of control over your own world. It's like being pulled about by annoyances and bothered by the little things. "A man is as big as his problems" If you're getting all bitter and bitchy because some girl doesn't do what you want or gives you a bit of shit. It just kind of shows weakness. In fact the best way to show that you're not being pushed around is to just keep on doing what you're doing and not reacting. I mostly ignore any kind of bullshi…
/r/seduction10/02/16 09:42 AM
2

You just don't have enough people or good things in your life. When all your goals in life revolve around pulling some girl you want to marry and you're maybe talking to 5 girls per year, any of them that show you interest is a candidate for that. If you're focusing on a life that is well-lived and dedicated to enjoyment and developing yourself - as a first - you're less depressed from not having a girl. But most importantly.. If in the same situation as above you meet and talk to 1000 girls in …
/r/seduction10/02/16 09:39 AM
1

Pro game... Awesome.
/r/seduction27/01/16 08:59 AM
24

Just something where you get some basic airsoft or foam weapons, get locked in a building with a bunch of actors pretending to be zombies and have to escape without being eaten. Think a live action version of Left 4 Dead. It gets pretty intense and a lot of fun. They also did an overnight one, in a forest, but I figured the gal probably couldn't handle that.
/r/seduction26/01/16 09:30 PM
10

I took a girl on a "mall zombie apocalypse" thing once... That was good fun.
/r/seduction26/01/16 08:39 PM
1

I don't disagree with your strategy - I'm not sure what would be best in the case, they have history that means there are a lot of threads to the tapestry that can pull people in many different ways. My point is, she seems pretty interested - and with a good strategy and cards played well, i think she'll continue being into him. Behaviour that doesn't let her feel that she's gaining control/power over him would probably do best.
/r/seduction26/01/16 07:25 PM
14

Don't worry OP. I don't really have any great close friends. I have old friends from school - but we're quite different now and while we get on and can do stuff it's not like the whole "Brother Ill be with you through thick and thin!" kind of thing. The closest friends I have I don't even see very often. I think it's all about lifestyle. As /ur/radinax says "Live a life you love and love will find you". Brilliant. Friendships are developed most strongly through shared experience, without experie…
/r/seduction24/01/16 06:24 PM
2

great comment, keep it up
/r/seduction24/01/16 08:55 AM
1

Yea, so far i've just ignored it. but as it came through message it might lose some of the undertone of humour if i respond with "sure, pick a number"
/r/seduction23/01/16 10:38 PM
4

Well however you frame the issue - whether it's a shittest or them trying to provide security for their choices in the sexual market place (i don't intrinsically think that shittesting is malicious in any regard) it's still the same dynamic. They test your resolve, test your frame, test your confidence and conviction... so, a distinction without a difference. I don't disagree tbh.
/r/seduction23/01/16 09:35 PM
2

Agreed, about the 14th thing, it was just a bit of a throwaway idea. I like the responses, thanks.
/r/seduction23/01/16 06:05 PM
1

Deleted - a bit too passive aggressive
/r/seduction23/01/16 04:58 PM
2

No problem at all. Apropos your friends, they're probably putting themselves out there more than you (if you're introvert and they're not especially) - also maybe due to the fact that they don't call themselves introvert and "enjoy the company of others less than average". Which to be honest is pretty much putting yourself ahead of time into the mindset of being stand-offish. As for actually introvert/extrovert thing. Well, again I think it's just some silly label. Maybe you're okay being on you…
/r/seduction23/01/16 03:50 PM
5

Well, all of your problems seem to essentially be a result of not interacting with enough girls. You learn to control, or realise, the whole "all over her" thing when you start measuring her against other women you've seen/dated/fucked and notice that she's not some perfect princess that is amazing in every single way and likely to be the only girl you'll ever be inside. Other than that not being a talkative type, or being introverted or having a clue to pursue/talk to girls you're interested in…
/r/seduction23/01/16 02:45 PM
4

Well played man. I did something similar. I went into a shop a while back just as I was losing weight a lot. I got this cute lithuanian saleswoman, quite loud very bold but friendly and chatty and oh so friendly. She wasn't amazingly hot, probably a 6 in her work clothes but with a bit of dolling for a night out she could push that up probably to a 7-8. Slim, cute, etc. Anyway, I was going through the whole ggetting my fashion shit together so we chatted really hitting it off, joking about stuff…
/r/seduction23/01/16 01:32 PM
11

Not bad at all. I think the real mistake was maybe going up to Evelyn after you'd numbered her and trying to get in on the afterparty or draw it out to get her back with you. I mean - it's not wrong - and i guess if your game had been spot on all night anyway you probably felt it was worth the shot. The only reason I suggest that this might have been a mistake because it leaves the final impressionof the night with her that you asked her to either come with her or her go somewhere with you and b…
/r/seduction23/01/16 01:25 PM
3

"Hey there, I think you guys are sat at my table.." then sit down. Once you're sat. "It's okay, I have to meet my friends somewhere else in a few minutes, so I'll let you have it. Whats your name?"...
/r/seduction23/01/16 11:28 AM
11

There you go - come back in 3months and tell me that feeling isn't quite addictive. But, some constructive criticism, if you'll allow me: If you ask a girl directly to dance you'll likely be rejected irrespective of how attracted to you she initiall is. While I apprecaite the purpose was to set foot our of your comfort zone, it's better to do it the way you did with the blonde girl. If after a while you'd have just taken her hand and led her to the dance floor you'd have probably ended with her …
/r/seduction23/01/16 10:31 AM
1

Nope, you weren't being creepy. Basically it's a term for girls to do the equivalent of "slut-shaming" to men who are trying to get in with some attractive women. Some type of behaviour, granted, are entirely unappealing and very unattractive - rat-like even. But what you did definitely wasn't that. See, I do disagree with /u/thatslyb. Does it really only boil down to "whether she thought you were attractive or not to begin with"? It kind of takes the power out of your hand. What you can assume …
/r/seduction23/01/16 10:22 AM
1

Yea, so it's one thing tht seems impossible for some people (who maybe cant even do one) but cool fo ryou... simple, train, work on it and you get better. The biggest obstacle in anything like this is your own mind saying "fuck that shit, i cant be bothered putting in the effort in to get the reward..." or "it's too hard, I Can't do that". Well in terms of pick up, just a little bit of effort tightening up your game, apperance, physique and personality will make it so that you're going from gett…
/r/seduction23/01/16 09:46 AM
2

I agree with /u/brandon0297 it's not sexual repression.. it's you being scared. Hangups about your cock, your ability to be sexually amazing, etc. It fundamentally seems to originate in personal insecurity. This has happened to me.... I once turned down a threesome because I was scared about my cock being too small... but you know what? It's just not a big deal, if i wasn't such a pussy about it i'd have banged two hot girls, instead i just regret it for not biting the bullet. I found that reall…
/r/seduction21/01/16 10:59 PM
1

I'm 31 and work a professional job in cyber security. My social life basically invovles training (boxing/muaythai/bjj etc.) and going out to for drinks with bars. Work customers and people from my company are off-limits. So job isn't really an issue - it's just more that I'm happy to date girls who are in their late twenties too. I've dated 18, 19, 20 year olds and i'm 31... age isn't an issue. I joked with some of them that they were so young and they just reply with "age is a number" or "well …
/r/seduction21/01/16 10:52 PM
3

I'm in, but i'll be extending my 1pt thing to age range from 18-32, as long as they're hot
/r/seduction21/01/16 09:57 PM
1

Okay, honestly... my guess is either in this specific situation you were unlucky, maybe not their type... maybe below their physical attraction level. Or just kind of not the right moment. IF such things keep happening then you're either evaluating your own SMV (sexual market value) badly or you're simply behaving differently, or wrongly in the context of the girls you're going for. I recommend actually getting a microphone and recording yourself on a night out, or day out. Go through the record…
/r/seduction21/01/16 09:18 PM
1

Sure it does
/r/seduction21/01/16 01:39 PM
3

Better than i've evern been before. I've had 18 year olds, and pretty much most girls are in their twenties when i'm dating/fucking them. It's a great age.
/r/seduction21/01/16 01:39 PM
1

Sigh. It's not a lack of reaction, it's the implication of the passive aggressive statement.
/r/seduction21/01/16 09:52 AM
1

Well, i'll grant you that I've probably not had some of your issues to your extreme. However what you have to know is this: Irrelevent of your situation, or hardships with certain things, you can improve. You can still train behaviours and still intellecttually decide what is right to do. IF you are far removed from what women want, that at least means you know to a degree what women are looking for and that you're not measuring up to it. That gives you a clear path of improvement. I used to go …
/r/seduction21/01/16 09:05 AM
1

It's passive aggressibe because you're offhandedly diminishing the girl as "just another one of thosepeople with vaginas that i want to fuck". You go up to her, hit on her she rejects you and you turn around to just say "well... look there's so many other great girls i can hit on"
/r/seduction21/01/16 08:54 AM
2

Yea, just be friendly, don't act phased. Don't go out of your way in any way. Just be friendly and keep your frame. She knows you're interested, once she gets over her bitch-response at being teased she'll be back into it if she likes you.
/r/seduction20/01/16 07:17 PM
1

hahahahahah
/r/seduction20/01/16 06:58 PM
3

Tease her, like people say. Kiss, kiss the neck, let your hands roam over her, touch her but not too directly, circling places and lightly brushimg them while gripping areas close by kind of drive girls wild and get them going. Make sure to rub the g-spot (what the fuck's a gspot, right?) and clit but after you've worked her up a little bit. Then just kinda go with the flow - if you're a virgin it's okay to be a little akward and not some Cassanova sex god. Just go with what feels okay. Also, be…
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:58 PM
2

Well, i don't really have many at all - at least I find it hard to distinguish my examples of High value demonstrations and just bragging about how awesome I am. I once got scared shitless while diving because I started hearing some booming sound in some enclosed body of water. It was cold and I was in a dry-suit, quite restricted. I asked my partner what was going on (it was on my exam) and he didn't know. We were both puzzled and it kept happening. So, being about 20m under water, I was starti…
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:29 PM
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Well, Don't misunderstand I want to help - but there's a lot of situations where advice is sought by people asking really innane things. I understand that beginners are beginners and need guidance and advice but so many of the questions here can be answered through a little reading ---------------------------> or through the post history of the subreddit. Have you read any literature on the topic at all? Have you actually read the side bar, or looked at post history, searching for things similar…
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:42 PM
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I'm starting to get a little dismayed with Seddit of late. All links to these 3rd party 'blog' boards of pro pickup artists talking about some shit or another or even ridiculous (seemingly trolly) requests for help with certian things. Do you REALLY fucking need to know what to say next? you've written one sentence ot her and she has replied one thing .... Tell her you're the supreme leader of Cybertron or something, who gives a fuck... there is 0 content here to work with.
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:19 PM
1

You can't unless you're not committed to Catholic dogma. T
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:15 PM
2

First mistake was apologising. "I'm sorry that I have stuff more important in my life than some girl whose number i got from tinder". "I'm also sorry that I didn't pass your test for me..." I think you shouldn't send anything. Let her do it. If you're going to start pandering to her (what essentially are) shit-tests. and apologising for behaviour that isn't really bad at all... then even if you do fuck her, even if you do girlfriend her, you'll be setting yourself up for a shitty relationship of…
/r/seduction20/01/16 10:41 AM
3

This happened to me. We were living together 8 years. I basically cut that entire community/group of people out of my life - with the exception of one or two close friends. I don't talk to her, and i go fuck other women. I train hard, work hard and play hard nowadays. Ultimately, getting away from my exGF seems to have been a good thing. Probably the same for you - no relationship ever ends if it's great. What else is there? If you're gf is gone - then the only thing to do is get on with life. T…
/r/seduction20/01/16 10:34 AM
2

fuck lucky. There's no such thing as luck. The thing is that the idea of above average and below average is such a misrepresentation of everything - you're probably not. Some people have tastes, some are aligned with you and some aren't. For you, from what I can see of your history, is that your social disorders are preventing you from establishing a good social connection. You're unllikely to be ugly (not many people are actually ugly, just sometimes not aligned with the tastes of somebody) and…
/r/seduction20/01/16 09:49 AM
0

Yep (read below)- Implement your newly learned pick up skills. I don't want to seem harsh, but dealing with bipolar people is hard enough as it is. "I'm not going to wait around here for you while you're out partying - but have caveated that I can't speak to you because it'll stress you out". Ask the same question on /r/AskTRP and see their answers. More severe than mine, no doubt, but probably aligned. I think though if you're dating then it's worth actually being upfront and clear about it. No…
/r/seduction20/01/16 09:36 AM
0

Do something Expressive - Actually actively develop or analyse things that aren't really fininte-state. Basically you can do the same for some music, art - or other expressive things. Essentially you'll become one of those critical people who can talk bullshit about things like that. But it's good practice because you have to kind of find the beauty in something that you don't or can't define in a purely analytical way. Like, Let it Be and No Woman, No Cry have the same chord progression - but e…
/r/seduction20/01/16 09:15 AM
9

There is no we. You did it bro. I hope it was Star Wars
/r/seduction20/01/16 09:09 AM
6

Just "have a nice day!" and she should be gone from your life like a leaf on the wind. Who cares? Dont' say anything just walk off... just for the love of god do not try to be bitchy, passive aggressive or butthurt
/r/seduction20/01/16 08:39 AM
2

This seems a bit too passive aggressive. It's lame to be honest.
/r/seduction20/01/16 08:38 AM
4

That is a golden response... simply brilliant.
/r/seduction20/01/16 08:37 AM
1

Now apply the same principle to everything in your life that you want and feel anxious about. Not just girls, but maybe you wanted to start a business, change jobs, go skydiving or whatever. Guaranteed way to have a fucking awesome life.
/r/seduction19/01/16 04:57 PM
6

Downward facing, with a dog. I think
/r/seduction19/01/16 02:15 PM
2

No
/r/seduction19/01/16 11:31 AM
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well, good to know for your future questions
/r/seduction19/01/16 11:11 AM
9

Fuck with his head: "If you like her, go talk to her..." and he'll make an excuse. Then you go and talk to her. Keep doing that all night until he finially thinks "fuck, i can do this shit too" and starts actually approaching too.
/r/seduction19/01/16 11:01 AM
1

I actually have a similar problem with DHV. I'd also like a couple of examples - ideally from members of the seddit who have actually managed to put them to good work. Maybe it's delivery and practice but dhv for me kind of comes off as "Yea? I went to south america, it reminds me so much of ..." pretentious, or bullshittery. Examples od DHV would be great - there is also a reason that people ask here rather than googling. Googling provides unrefined misama of information - here that information…
/r/seduction19/01/16 10:24 AM
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You know, before you write these questions you should probably read the side bar - you should also check out older posts. There are litererally 2 questions asking pretty much the exact same thing on the board right now. Do you really not know the answer? Or do you just need it to be okayed by other people before you'll have the confidence to try it?
/r/seduction19/01/16 10:21 AM
1

Tell her she'd look awesome on a space hopper.
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:28 AM
1

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin. Nothing wrong with being experienced. Usually people in college are so up for it because there's still novelty in being able to hook up with chicks etc. There's also the freedom of not having to sneak around. Whatever, it's boring. /u/pappytwentythree makes some good points. I think you're just a bit too focused on the negative and have a far too shitty outlook on the thing. at 21, at college, ther eare still plenty of people that haven't had sex. Whate…
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:23 AM
2

I barely notice because i'm busy doing other shit in my life. Wheher training, fun things, other girls, etc.
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:16 AM
3

The reasoning is that most anxiety, odd behaviour and general fuckups/negative feelings occur because your goal is to get the girl and to fuck her. Ego gets damaged if she's not interested in you, you get annoyed with yourself if you say something stupid and turn her off. Plus you usually end up acting rather than just generally expressing properly when youre trying to mask your hangups/insecurities/bad features with the goal of having her ride your happy-stick. If you're assuming that she's not…
/r/seduction19/01/16 09:13 AM
5

OKay, firstly, if you did make a mistake.. It's not such a big deal. 2 - you're too invested in the girl. If you're inexperienced with pickup and girls in general you're likely to come off as needy 3 - she was flirty and stuff, so at least consider that positive enough for you to be attractive. But until she really meets you, she might just be enjoying the attention. 4 - let her message you. Go finding other girls. You need to think of it this way, if you want a girl and you want a relationship …
/r/seduction18/01/16 06:06 PM
2

Does it matter? Nexting isn't a quite so absolute as you're making it out. Next her, move onto a bunch of other girls... if she calls then tell her to get her ass around to yours there and then (or something like that), fuck her again and then continue your life. Who cares? Basically you let her try to initiate, you don't ignore her - just don't make idle chit chat to validate her needs for attention. Meet or don't bother. :You don't have to tell her anything - best not to in fact - just get on …
/r/seduction18/01/16 06:00 PM
3

Went from Fat to muscular - still got a little bit left but overall vast improvement. In terms of inner game I feel like i'm king - this coupled with a conscious decision to up my competitive fighting makes me feel like i'm a boss the whole time. Perhaps i have had a bit of social anxiety at times? Maybe still do. But my mindset has really gone (for many women, not all) from "Oh shit, i'm probably not good enough for her, too boring, too inactive, too anti-social" to "This is my world, come and …
/r/seduction18/01/16 12:36 PM
1

Yep... I think the world generally opposes any kind of awakening. But a little bit "Ministry of Peace" for Australia, no? From what I hear about Aussieland, freedom is just a thing that happens to other people.
/r/seduction18/01/16 10:59 AM
2

Anything online that doesn't involve direct interaction with the person should only be used as a supplement anyway. Working in cyber security those website names you reeled off are already setting off red-flags for me. I
/r/seduction18/01/16 10:32 AM
1

Well I'm a little confused about the response. The comments suggest that this isn't unprecedented. Aside from the usual feminist bullshit - what is wrong with the seminars?
/r/seduction18/01/16 10:22 AM
1

You know... this whole back and forth kinda proves the point that you're a bit too invested in her. Take her for what she is. She has no commitment to you, no obligations to you. Her only goal in life in respect to you is to have fun - as yours should be to her. The fact that you're getting all pissy and bitchy about her getting fucked by some other guy is indicative that you're trying to attribute your own sense of morality to her. I mean, you're in SEDUCTION, where you're learning the fine art…
/r/seduction18/01/16 10:16 AM
3

When i'm out (i'm 31) I just go and have fun. I think that the younger girls, espcially 18-24 range really appreciate the kind of guy who can just let go and have fun. While older gals still like that, you can be a little bit more serious or intense with them. They seem to value that "I got my shit together and am really good at things i do" much more than the dizzy party girls. It's more about the girl's personality though.
/r/seduction18/01/16 08:31 AM
5

Maybe that's why you're getting a bit hurt when she's out being taken to pound town by some other dude. Over investment? You have to be real about what it is you're doing with this girl, she isn't your girlfriend, you're dating to see if you get on well enough to hook up on a more long-term basis, or you're just using each other for sex. If it's the former, than you're more invested than her, without a doubt. If it's the latter than you've misread the signals/conversation and are too invested in…
/r/seduction17/01/16 08:22 PM
4

I dont think he was specifically referring to 'pre-baked' routines. So take your low-niveaux sarcasm and either revomit as something constructive, or don't bother posting.
/r/seduction17/01/16 12:24 PM
1

Actually techniques are the cornerstone of learning any skill. This whole thing that techniques don't work or are training wheels is a bit silly. Techniques work, because you apply techniques in situations. They're not training wheels. They're simply "Doing X, usually works when the conditions are Y" you then modify at runtime. It's the same with most kinds of learning. In boxing, when somebody throws a hook, you can roll and counter. Or you can block. In each situation the conditions are slight…
/r/seduction17/01/16 11:21 AM
1

Subimssive girls are the best, aren't they. In fact.. this kind of direct attitude works with most girls. Even those sassy throw back in your face types - works with shy girls too. Only you have to not ask them to do too much by themselves, without help. If you know what i mean
/r/seduction17/01/16 10:01 AM
4

So you really love the girl, you're not dating her, not married, etc. Then you asked her out, she said no and you're asking if you should wait around a few weeks before trying again? For the love of fuck man... Do you really need an answer?
/r/seduction17/01/16 09:53 AM
1

Don't shit where you eat.
/r/seduction17/01/16 09:52 AM
2

Well, my friend is a clinical psycho(one of them). And she told me that to get over most problems such as social anxiety you have to essentially (she described it differently) re-frame it. "Oh god i'm going to be going to this party where I don't know anybody... what if they don't like me? What if I annoy them or fuck up conversation?" etc. Move this to: "Oh i'm going to a party where i don't know anybody. That means i'll get to meet a whole bunch of new people. I'll probably even find a few tha…
/r/seduction17/01/16 09:51 AM
3

I think that PUA is actually great, especially for women. It applies some level of "scientific rigor" to the whole process of becoming attractive. In doing so it kind of begins to work out a formula for how to attack the principal issue in life - how to be happy and content with yourself. There are people who take it to extreme, and especially in this subreddit you really have to dig through the chaff and bullshit and repeated questions and "Please help me, I know what to do but i just want othe…
/r/seduction17/01/16 09:44 AM
2

Sounds like you were picking up the residue of a friendship/relationship that she'd recently been upset with.
/r/seduction17/01/16 08:27 AM
1

I think my tinder game is pretty shit/shocking - same for my text game. In most cases i'll do a bit of a back and fourth with the girls but i push for a number quickly... Once i get their number i'll talk about meeting up
/r/seduction16/01/16 01:23 PM
1

There are posts like this that occurred not too long ago. Check history - I'm from NorthWest UK, but there are some others knocking around
/r/seduction16/01/16 12:38 PM
0

Look at the world... look at the insecure unconfident guys that are rocking hotties. Look at the world... look at the confident guys that are rocking hotties.
/r/seduction16/01/16 11:43 AM
1

This exacty same question was posted literally a week ago. I mean... exactly the same. Check the history.
/r/seduction16/01/16 07:56 AM
2

How can anyone help you with this? There is a saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" You know what to do, you know what to expect, you even pretty much know what to say. "Hi, i just thought you were cute and fwanted to meet you" - if you're too scared to say that ... "holy shit those are some great shoes you're wearing" You are literally dripping the whole concept of 'beta bux bitch' that is talked about in the red pill. You get too attached to girls because you don't…
/r/seduction16/01/16 07:52 AM
1

I'm pretty certain that all the respect I lost fro, my long term girlfriend wasn't because she found selfnessness more attractive than any other quality.
/r/seduction15/01/16 05:44 PM
2

Beast mode
/r/seduction15/01/16 01:58 PM
5

I recommend going there and getting it on with at least 3 other girls.
/r/seduction15/01/16 01:53 PM
1

I box, I kick ass at my job (which happens to be in a pretty awesome field) and keep shaping up into something of a beast. Testosterone from boxing, gym really helps you with that very predatory attitude and aggressive "I'll take what I want, come along for the ride" mentality. Plus, I like feeling as though i'm better than people, being amazing at my job and stronger/fitter/tougher than them makes me feel that way. I have done battle re-enactment in the past (live roleplay too) which is a fairl…
/r/seduction15/01/16 01:00 PM
-1

Just fuck them?
/r/seduction15/01/16 12:50 PM
2

Now
/r/seduction15/01/16 07:22 AM
0

I mean you suck at everything in the world because you haven't done it. So it's not the first step, the first step is taking the step away from sucking. I.e. doing is the only real way to stop sucking because it's the only way you learn and practice enough to get better
/r/seduction15/01/16 07:22 AM
2

You don't need 10,000 hours for that. But you know, if you want to do it... there's nothing really stopping you. It's one of those things "I choose to do this because I want to". But if you do it, fucking do it and no bitching out - you know, unless you decide that the last HB10 you fucked is the one you wanna be with... Don't get me wrong, the path of mastery in any field is a pretty cool and noble thing. But mastery isn't just a case of ticking off 10,000 hours. Real mastery involves some mind…
/r/seduction14/01/16 11:08 PM
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no. You suck at everything - irrelevent of whether you're getting good or better or standing still for the rest of eternity. Doing is the first step, it's also the last step.
/r/seduction14/01/16 10:59 PM
2

The book is outliers, by Malcolm Gladwell... not Robert Greene Well, 10,000s is purported to have you essentially be withing the realm of top percentile of people on earth. You don't need 10,000 hours of dedication to seduction - 10,000 hours is a lot of fucking commitment and only worth it for something you actually want to do with your life. If you intend to make a business and successful career/life out of seduction - and I guess passing that on to people - then go for it. But if you just wan…
/r/seduction14/01/16 10:43 PM
1

Polarising isn't really an active thing you do exactly. The whole process is relatively passive. People are naturally polarised based upon their beliefs, desires, etc. The key to actually having it happen successfully is not to be a social chameleon who changes their whims, beliefs, goals, etc. based on the people they're aound. The whole point is that if you are actually you, and you show people the part that is you then people will automatically be polarised. You don't even need to have opinio…
/r/seduction14/01/16 10:38 PM
3

cock I'm glad somebody picked up on my wonderfully witty spooner-ish-ism Choking on coke is always the way to go... and if the girl doesn't feel like she's been snorting all night after sucking your cock, you've done it wrong.
/r/seduction12/01/16 10:20 PM
3

I think we've all done it, to be fair. Just some people have that happen earlier rather than later and have a better measure for all women after.
/r/seduction12/01/16 09:23 PM
1

Yea man, PM me, let me know how it's going in 2months
/r/seduction12/01/16 09:23 PM
90

You're not wrong, my friend is like that - I wrote a post a while ago about my friend who basically is a total bitch and ha sbeen following some chick around for about a year. They hang out, she told him she's just his friend (friend zone) he talks to her to comfort her about her mother who was ill recently... he does all the job of a loving boyfriend but gets none of the reward at all.. In fact she's out snorting cock and choking on coke... or something like that ... evey weekend. When she can …
/r/seduction11/01/16 08:19 PM
1

So other than rant about how you're done with bullshit excuses, what have you done? My point, of course, is that you're totally right but it's very easy to say and make one of those "FUCK YEA IM GONNA CHANGE MY LIFE AND BECOME THE BEST VERSION OF MYSELF EVAAAAAAAAARRR!!" - but what have you actually done? If nothing, that's cool, as long as you stick to it and report back in a couple of months.
/r/seduction11/01/16 08:15 PM
1

The base of my head. My prostate Because they make me cum like a beast :)
/r/seduction11/01/16 03:59 PM
1

That's pretty much the same for everyone in every case for every thing. You're the lower option, because you're bitching about complaining rather than being awesome and doing things that make you the better option. Not because somehow your height has preordained you as less than taller men. You must be out of your mind if you believe that... That means all men shorter than me with smaller cocks than me are nowhere near as good as me.. and all men with bigger dicks than me and who are taller than…
/r/seduction11/01/16 03:53 PM
1

Well, it looked suspect - but i Erred on the side that gave you the benefit of the doubt. Ultimately, I contribute to this community to help others and in return I expect to get a good harsh calling out on my bullshit too. I'm not even very good - i'm average looking, my dick is average, until the age of 29-30 overweight and had really seemed to luck out with all the women i'd had sexual encounters with. I'd rather somebody come up and tell me straight "You're not getting girlriends or pussy bec…
/r/seduction11/01/16 03:25 PM
10

Evolution brother, not design. I wonder what percentage of men actually go bald. I also wonder what percentage of men are around 5'5". I wonder how many of them get laid. "I have realised that i'm a miserable unattractrive prick who couldn't pull a decent dame to save my mothers life but life has dealt me a pretty bad hand when it comes to the ladies...." 1) Good job your mother isn't dying... cuz with that attitude she's as good as dead. 2) You weren't born with AIDS; you've not been in a cripp…
/r/seduction11/01/16 02:54 PM
2

Take the number of words, divide by the number of minutes she's been on your friends list and multiply by the "Pickup Constant" - Alpha (3.382) If the value is above 1, you're talking too much. On a serious note: ".... time to show my desperation " Fix that first and it doesn't matter how much you chat to her.
/r/seduction11/01/16 12:08 PM
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"Fantastic, then you have somebody to keep you occupied while i'm not around" was my last response Or "if we're going to do a threesome I'd prefer one of your girlfriends"
/r/seduction11/01/16 12:03 PM
3

I think that a lot of girls have the issue that they don't really bring much into a guy's life. While most people here would suggest that the guy has to "take the lead" and kind of "bring her into your world" you have to have enough sense of self and be your own person for him to figure out that you're not just some girl who has actually been conquered. It's very easy to have women you pick up in a night club or bar be pretty vague and not have much about them. They're hot, they go out at weeken…
/r/seduction11/01/16 11:59 AM
1

I offered to take my date into the hills (it's near a national park) for a walk. But i said: "There's nothing wrong with going for a hike in the hills with a total stranger.. pack your bags, i'll bring the axe"
/r/seduction10/01/16 04:49 PM
1

Fair enough - sensationalism. I get it :) The core of the point isn't wrong and is very much worth repeating.
/r/seduction10/01/16 04:47 PM
1

OKay, I know what you mean. I have a very aggressive sense of humour too. I never apologise for jokes I make. I don't defend them. This is a principle that most comedians pretend they adhere to, but few of them do. Frankie Boyle, Stanhope, Jimmy Carr (though he apologised for tax evasion, pussy.) . The fact is, if that's your sense of humour, she has to eventually know/learn that and accept it. IF she hates it, better she be gone mother fucker! Not all initiating conversations sending first text…
/r/seduction10/01/16 09:48 AM
3

I like the inspirational vibe of the letter. I do - it can be stacked against the others. I kind of feel though that your title and general assertions are a bit fucked up. 99.9% of people will fail? Will they? Have I failed if i set out to become a race-car driver in the next 5 years.. and then suddenly get a job as a investment banker and then fuck off race driving all together? Or did my goals just re-align? Is pickup really the hardest thing in your life? If the hardest thing in your life is …
/r/seduction10/01/16 09:00 AM
2

Well. i'm a little wary of such absolute policies in anything. Zero tolerance maybe actually more a result of your own issues. Perhaps you're insecure and therefore any slight against your ego is a total "fuck you!" moment. If you calibrate too harshly and cut people out of your life too easily because of real or imagined missteps (everyone has flaws, right?) you're probably not going to be banging ass like it's going out of fashion. Also, with the particular example you gave there kind of is so…
/r/seduction10/01/16 08:51 AM
1

and what better way to expedite the learning process than have your practice include suggestion and objective feedback?
/r/seduction10/01/16 08:41 AM
1

I'm around your age. I live near Manchester but travel to London quite often. I have a couple of friends in the capital too who are into this stuff. Hit me up and we can talk about stuff. I prefer daygame but kind of want to work on night stuff, since i'm not so great.
/r/seduction09/01/16 09:46 PM
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"good girl"
/r/seduction09/01/16 03:18 PM
3

Well, you know if you're homeless and your goal is to pick up women - i think I know why you're homeless.
/r/seduction09/01/16 10:44 AM
9

It could be anything, I had one girl flake because the friday night before the sunday we were to hang out she'd gone out, got drunk met some dude, been smashed to pieces and then dumped by him. She had "seen him" for a week or so (i don't know exact details) and he'd basically banged her a few times and then told her she was too needy and clingy and told her to fuck off. That's when she started messaging me again. I've had one girl totally flake because she lost her nerve. Apologised later, and …
/r/seduction09/01/16 08:54 AM
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This is the thing about holding frame, and to use the crude term "not being a beta bitch" - they're using you to elevate themselves and validate their lfe by kinda fucking around with people. Okay, let me say this: don't worry about it. Firstly you've said that you've noticed it, so you can at least identify when this situation has arisen, even if you get caught out a couple of times you're on-point enough to know when they're playing you. There's no real shame in showing genuine interest in a g…
/r/seduction09/01/16 08:42 AM
1

Agreed. It gets old after a while.
/r/seduction09/01/16 08:31 AM
1

Well if polyamory is a multi-person relationship, i.e. a real relationship just with more than 2 people. And plating is having multiple women to fuck a harem is somewhere in between that. Plates usually don't know each other, if they do, then they probably don't interact. A plate seems (at least from my impression of people who describe their plates on TRP) to have essentially very little investment from the guy, and really are kept around as long as they're putting out. A harem maybe has a bit …
/r/seduction09/01/16 08:30 AM
8

Picking up strangers you present to them what you want them to see. When you know people well they get to see much more of you - even the bits that you wouldn't necessarily want them to. Girls who know you have more insight into your less attractive traits. Maybe you treat them differnetly too.
/r/seduction08/01/16 07:57 PM
3

To be honest if you know that this is happening it's likely that you're too invested in the girl. She can also see when you're online and might be able to piece together that you're checking on her activity. 1) She might have a lot of friends talking to her on whatsapp 2) She might not know what to respond yet 3) She might not give much of a fuck. Your two options are like this: pretty lame. "I've been watching you for a while and notice that you're not responding within the allotted time that I…
/r/seduction08/01/16 07:02 PM
2

Good post - valid points. People catch the aweomse-train or they're left standing if you're moving at the speed of thought and just going with your mind, dont care about approval but accept yourself and others as they are, you're the king. It's better to choose badly than to be indecisive is a common mantra of leadership - and you'll find that in most cases so many people are so used to "going with the flow" or being lead by others (justifying it any which way they can) you can get away with pus…
/r/seduction08/01/16 05:53 PM
2

Well /u/B2theP I kind of agree with you, relationships of any kind usually end up with some kind of emotional attachment. It can work if both parties are out plating or having sex with multiple people and not giving one person attention - but it's such a fine balance that it usually doesn't work out. Too close or too distant. Usually if you're regularly sleeping with a girl she will develop emotions, I totally agree.. but I guess this is where you have to hold your line and boundaries and essent…
/r/seduction08/01/16 02:38 PM
2

What do you expect? She needs to know you want to date/meet/fuck her. Gotta make it clear. "Listen, you're fun, lets go hang out at X on saturday"
/r/seduction08/01/16 02:10 PM
2

Since just before new year - i've had 2 girls. I cancelled or was flaked upon by another couple - which I suspect could have happened if i'd have pressed it. But - well with work, travelling, etc.. It's quite hard to go at more than 2-3 per week (even that gets old quickly) - if they're dates and not just booty calls. The questsion is are you saying "Lay" as in times you have sex, or the number of different girls you have but fuck multiple times? I'm not 100% bothered about having different girl…
/r/seduction08/01/16 02:08 PM
2

I really want this girl to come back for more for the sake of my ego. 'nuff said mate. Nobody is calling you an idiot - and I can understand what you write perfectly fine but I appreciate your comments relating to me bettering myself by improving my reading comprehension - i'll get right on it. <hr> I'm not trying to be a total dick but my point, all in all, was that you should probably not worry too much about it. You say you don't give a shit about her - are basically using her for a fuck- she…
/r/seduction08/01/16 01:06 PM
5

Wrong mentality. You should want her to come over because it'll be fun and you'll enjoy yourself not because your self-esteem rests on the precipice of girl-given validation based on your first time effort at fucking her. For the record... this is too much investment in one girl. Without a doubt.
/r/seduction08/01/16 12:09 PM
1

I'm not convinced that this isnt a troll post. Go with the flow, first time... who cares. Most of mankind have a kind of evolved sense of feeling when it comes to how to proceed when attempting to fuck some girl. Bonus points if her boyfriend tastes your cum in/on her.
/r/seduction08/01/16 11:52 AM
1

You're so sexist... this is the male patriarchy trying to oppress women and keep them as an underclass, objectified in society. Bleh bleh bleh </satire>
/r/seduction08/01/16 11:50 AM
4

That's it isn't it. Really. I mean I have some fairly geeky hobbies - but you look at some pro people who are very successful in life Elon Musk, bunch of PUA folk, metallica, etc. I wonder how many of them have spent 4hrs (let alone 4+hrs/day) levelling up a warlock? I wonder how many of them watch porn, and jack off to /r/rule34. My guess is none. The big bang theory really does seem to satirise this whole lifestyle well but adds some bullshit hope that some hot blonde will fall into their lap …
/r/seduction08/01/16 11:01 AM
2

Okay. a harem is pretty much my end-goal too. I've got a few girls (about 5 at the moment) some are kind of more dating material than others. But the girls who i'm just kinda of hanging around with and fucking - i'm very open about having other girls, but generally don't say anything if it doesn't come up in conversation. It's just not needed. Last week I had 4 'dates' and thats rolling off the back of the previous week's wednesday spending the night over at another girl's place. The thought of …
/r/seduction08/01/16 10:00 AM
0

My first suggestion would be 2am - slightly jokingly of course
/r/seduction08/01/16 09:44 AM
2

Actually copying others is pretty much how learning has worked since the beginning of mankind. Copy, edit, repeat. Copying openers does work - of course it does... this is the whole point of routines and openers etc. Just because game has transitioned in the past 5-10 years from indirect, mechanical type learning to a zen like need for inner-peace and wisdom doesn't make it less effective. In a way it is more refined... people are peeling back those routines in layers to get to the fundamental p…
/r/seduction08/01/16 09:28 AM
5

Ringing her up and bitching at her was a mistake. An ultimatum - what would you even say? "Bitch you better start being cool or we won't see each other agian?" I've come to think really that the only reason anyone would ever actually say to somebody "I don't think we can see each other any more" is just from a position of weakness. Firstly, "I think" not "I don't want to see you anymore" implies that there are external forces about that go againts your desire but make it too hard/difficult - i.e…
/r/seduction08/01/16 09:17 AM
1

I don't think you need tips for escalating sexually in this case. She did it... You just pussied out. It's not such a terrible thing as long as you learn from the experience.
/r/seduction08/01/16 09:09 AM
1

This was so close to a recent post that I thought i may well have already posted on it. Don't do place of work. It's bad - if it goes wrong your career/life at work is going to suck. 8hrs per day 5 days per week of women talking shit about you... good luck with that Cold approach implies you don't know them - sthat rules out many situations. For you to know a woman you have to have been around her and chatted to her a while. This in your adult life is usually done through clubs or groups or hobb…
/r/seduction08/01/16 09:07 AM
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Well, /u/ricardo2991 isn't entirely correct. You don't always act consciously - so acting different isn't necessarily a chosen act. Also, does it matter? Just be your friends with your friends and be the daddy with the other girls. The fact is this, behaviour is not a case of "I know this therefore I act in method X" - that is the catalyst but behaviour (pretty much all of it) is trained by repitition. You form synaptic pathways that are reinforced with constant firing and as a result you will c…
/r/seduction08/01/16 09:04 AM
2

I'm glad you actually followed up that with ome actual examples. Too many people say "anything!!!" and leave it at that. It's like teacing somebody to box and they say "what do i do" and you just spam repeat the thing "knock him out!! hit him!". It might be true, but it teaches what not how.
/r/seduction08/01/16 08:48 AM
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To a degree this makes sense. There are attractive traits which are pretty common across the whole world of women. Confidence, status, etc. But fundamentally - I hit on girls because theyre the girls i want to know, or fuck.
/r/seduction08/01/16 08:46 AM
1

Is the question "What are some of the good things you learned there?" Well, really it's about personal grooming, fitness, kind of living more for yourself and in many cases not putting up with peoples' shit. Some of it makes sense, my girlfriend got very complacent because I was providing for her with no requirement of her to contribute and that was one of the factors ending our relationship. Dread game is quite an interesting thing, for example, and maybe the nomenclature is a bit off and perha…
/r/seduction08/01/16 08:29 AM
1

Well, i totally agree about the neediness thing. Neediness, however, is different than kind of understanding that you need practice and just getting comfortable talking to girls. You don't have to make them memorable to be honest, at least not in my experience, im not bashing your ideas or anything but if you set that they have to be memorable (for you) then you're kind of investing a bit too much, i think. It puts pressure on you to perform in a way that's distinct from who you are - in a way. …
/r/seduction07/01/16 11:47 PM
1

I approach girls that i'm not even hugely attracted to. Sometimes it leads to finding some interesting people who are amazing to hang out with and have fantastically attractive friends. Everyone can be opened, even if you don't want to fuck them.. To be honest, i don't like the way you describe the situations. "Winning", "half-assing" it just seems to set the rules of the game to be wrong. In the end, who cares, you approached? You didn't miss anything, just keep going. You don't have to be supe…
/r/seduction07/01/16 11:08 PM
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You answered you own quetstion - "I am scared or shy". Basically there isn't any kind of problem with touching people. Playfully pushing people, shaking their hand, using your hand/arm to guide them in a direction you want... As long as you're not trying to finger bang before introducing yourself - you can mostly win. If you're "too intimate, too early" then that's why it's bad. It happened to me recently (think i mentioned in another post) i was trying to guess a girl's age and i cupped her chi…
/r/seduction07/01/16 07:38 PM
1

so, if it gets down voted and people don't get to read it... oh well.
/r/seduction07/01/16 06:47 PM
3

okay: 1 - She already likes you. Remember she is on the date because she's thought about being with you and getting fucked by you and kissing you and found the idea appealing 2 - Just talk with her but don't be all over her. Make sure you disagree with a thing or something and most definitely tease her a bit. 3 - if you go to a karaoke bar and pussy out of singing, I think you're heading the wrong way. Make sure if you go there you have enough in you to go singing. 4 - it anything sexual, relati…
/r/seduction07/01/16 06:46 PM
1

Give credit to yourself. We're just armchair cowboys with a lot of opinions you enacted the change and made your own life better.
/r/seduction07/01/16 03:35 PM
1

Like you're king and they are your council of advisors
/r/seduction07/01/16 03:14 PM
16

Before my LTR this was also something about me. I don't know when i developed self consciousness about my dick size (i'm average, i suppose - so it's the porn that fucked my head a bit) but I'd rationalise some white knight bullshit that I had to "treat women right by not fucking them the first time we met, getting to know her first, or while she was drunk". In reality i thought it'd just set me apart and make me appear to be a high value, unique, wonderful gentleman that a girl could rely on (r…
/r/seduction07/01/16 03:12 PM
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I think porn is the ultimate issue here. I've had some similar issues before. Coupled with the ending of a LTR, having to initially get drunk to talk with women, being fat and a bit insecure... I had a period where If i went out and got drunk i was gaming so hard but then i'd be too drunk to get it up. Knocking out a few strokes multiple times per day while watching group porn kind of pushed me towards things fetishes that, while they're hot enough, I don't really want to be part of - it all con…
/r/seduction07/01/16 02:59 PM
6

I dont do shit for applauses. I don't do shit for fanfare. I do shit for me and for those who I choose to help. Fuck the downvotes, your point is valid.
/r/seduction07/01/16 02:48 PM
1

To reiterate many of the sentiments of the masses - it happens. If you've never been cheated on, or felt heartbreak or had to seriously question your own worth as a person, lover, male, human, biological entity living on Earth then you simply haven't really begun to live. It's shitty but the thing is everbody really will feel attraction to other people irrespective of how much they love their partner. I mean, from your point of view you might find Scarlett Johansson hot as fuck and secretly want…
/r/seduction07/01/16 01:38 PM
13

You can do anything. You have as much time as me. "but i'm a college student" ... so you mean you have a fuckton of opportunities to get invovled with a fuck ton more activities (that are organised) around a multitude of like-minded and ambitious people surrounded in 18-25 year old girls willing to find themselves and fuck and enjoy themselves - while provided enough of a stabilising guidance to help you along your path? sounds really fuckin hard
/r/seduction07/01/16 12:22 PM
4

I think the point was missed.
/r/seduction07/01/16 12:18 PM
11

Careful of the red pill. Lots of it is really useful and some of the concepts are actually applicable and very useful... but it's like having a vulcan mini gun wielded by the joker. (read: emotionally unstable people with alpha-complexes). There's a lot of shit there that leads to a terrible world.
/r/seduction07/01/16 09:48 AM
1

"I like where this is going, giggity"
/r/seduction07/01/16 09:46 AM
1

Give us a list of the five most awesome things you do regularly.
/r/seduction07/01/16 09:45 AM
1

The question should be rephrased: Where can I be so single girls can meet me. Edit: because people didn't seem to get it
/r/seduction07/01/16 09:44 AM
5

IF this is your biggest problem (pun intended) you got a fairly good fucking life. Good game, well played. I honestly don't understand the tall thing. If you are really getting upset because of a few inches off your 'maximal' height (That to be frank you don't even really fucking know... because genetics doesn't work like "oh well if my family are all tall then i must be at least the same height as them" - there's a thing called genetic variance) Shut the fuck up about your height - it's fine...…
/r/seduction07/01/16 09:13 AM
2

yea, it changed your life.. lets have the story: bow, before and after.
/r/seduction01/01/16 09:10 PM
1

lets hear it, feel free to PM me or link
/r/seduction01/01/16 08:05 PM
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/r/seduction01/01/16 05:42 PM
1

Well, that's not necessarily a terrible thing - they may well have boyfriends your approach may be bad and your game might not be up to scratch, but that is definitely a different issue. The fact is, most people who don't have girlfriends when they want one aren't necessarily boring, or ugly or terrible with people. The general case is that most of the people with girlfrends are those who are social enough to actually have women regularly in contact with them. I don't like the notion that it's a…
/r/seduction01/01/16 12:27 PM
1

This is my life at the moment too. I train powerlifting BJJ/Wrestling/Boxing and Muay Thai 6 days per week. My other hobbies include engineering projects and I've started a business of my own dealing with software. None of these things give me things that I can really share with a girl. I can talk about them sure, I can impress upon them how rigorous and thorough I have my life locked away (even if with subtlety) I can even find many excuses to not hang out with a girl - because life comes first…
/r/seduction01/01/16 09:46 AM
2

Well to be honest, I've had a similar problem. The fact is, they're kinda boring - if your time off is just spent out drinking and squalling around inside some night club and the rest of the weekend recovering from alcohol consumption.... well that's a pretty shitty way to spend your weekend/life. Work and then nights out at the weekend. I think really re-framing the whole ordeal to be "actually they're boring and can't really see or appreciate or find value in anything that breaks the cycle of …
/r/seduction31/12/15 10:04 PM
2

Balls of steel mon ami! Good lad
/r/seduction29/12/15 03:24 PM
31

to be fair mastering suction probably requires a lot of time on your knees rather than smart phone
/r/seduction26/12/15 09:44 AM
1

There is no maybe
/r/seduction26/12/15 09:19 AM
1

To say that you have low confidence and then suggest you're good looking and have value kind of suggests that you're not really insecure - maybe just lacking some positive reinforcement. There are a few ways to do this: Ignore the insecurities. If you've said you're going to approach the first girl you see and want to bone - just do it. Ignore everything that says no. This is about having the will power to follow your intellectual and rational mind. Try to do this with a lot of things. Ultimatel…
/r/seduction25/12/15 04:27 PM
1

unless they're Swabian :)
/r/seduction24/12/15 06:15 PM
1

just remember that her boyfriend is probably a nice normal dude and that while it's true, that's n ot even your problem. Merry xmas :)
/r/seduction24/12/15 06:05 PM
6

I dont think it matters even slightly. It's not your responsibility at all to deal with anyone elses relationship. Fuck them or no, their relationship doesn't have anything to do with you. For instance you say doucebags and crazy guys, but do you really know them? Or are you projecting? If some girl is trying to jump your bone do you reckon she'll tell you beforehand what a sweet wonderful person her BF is? or that he's an asshole.
/r/seduction24/12/15 08:52 AM
6

If she's dancing around you, grab her hand and pull her right up to you, tell her she's cute, ask her name and she'll be dancing with you. Make sure you're touching, like putting your hands on her waist, pull her right against you to speak into her ear etc. then take her home and fuck the hll out of her :D
/r/seduction23/12/15 09:47 PM
1

older gals know how to have fun, especially if they don't have young children.
/r/seduction23/12/15 09:23 PM
3

Pull the trigger! god damn it.
/r/seduction23/12/15 08:19 PM
1

you already answered
/r/seduction23/12/15 04:37 PM
5

"makes you wonder what do we need to improve ourselves for" Come on... really? I think if you actually even vaguely believe this statement then your sole purpose for self-improvement is based on getting more validation from women. Don't care about having a better lifestyle, better health, better social life, etc? Kinda dumb comment . "Kind of opposite of what the PUA community teaches" No it's not. He isn't fat, he takes care of his style (exemplifies the nerdy kind of look, which is a style unt…
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:32 PM
1

There are lots to be honest - but I find that the meta-game kind of throws newbies off quite a lot, it started doing it to me. "Just not give a fuck" "abundance mentality" well this is hard if you've been hammered into the ground for 10 years and have never had more than a 5minute conversation with a female otehr than your sister. Some examples let people try somet things out see some results without having to rely on The Force.
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:10 PM
1

I have a similar problem finding people on here who aren't from London. I mostly operate around North West (england), with occasional forays into west midlands/London. I can imagine Central Scotland has similar issues
/r/seduction23/12/15 02:22 PM
5

1) Cut contact 2) Don't bother telling her the reasons it's over - it just comes off as bitter and bitchy and kind of signals that you're really not over her. If you were finding yourself in the rainforest surrounded by amazonian women willing to fuck you on command you probably wouldn't bother sending some pissy text message. Similarly if you were a musician who had just recieved his first break and was touring you probably wouldn't bother... you get the point. 3) It's hard, agreed - but distan…
/r/seduction23/12/15 11:56 AM
2

I'm in the same boat too - kind of. I have a couple of friends who are into it.. but one of them isn't very serious and the others are across the country. I have that in my head too - it's very awkward to be the guy in a bar/club standing on his own with a beer, trying to make chatty time with people. Especially if you're in your 30s - nobody wants to be that old creeper guy. That's why in situations like this it's much easier to do day game. You can justify being on your own in almost all other…
/r/seduction23/12/15 11:52 AM
3

that doesn't really help help
/r/seduction22/12/15 10:02 PM
2

Too much investment
/r/seduction22/12/15 10:51 AM
1

People that accuse others of taking advantage of a drunk girl are just white knighting to score some browny points with girls they want to fuck. (I'd like to see their high morality stay strong when they've got some sexy chick who has plugged a few beers offering her ass to them - even if they did hold it, it's still bullshit) Their opinion is irrelevant. The whole issue is like the relationship thing, people are forcing others to make morality-based decisions on behalf of other people. Fuck tha…
/r/seduction22/12/15 10:45 AM
1

You mean two steps forward one step back.
/r/seduction22/12/15 10:39 AM
1

they get one chance to fuck up. If they flake a second time then they're gone.
/r/seduction22/12/15 10:38 AM
3

People who drink are responsible for their own actions. As long as she's conscious and vaguely capable then there's no issue. (though USA seems to be a bit fucked up with this whole bullshit of rape culture) - if she'd go to prison after shooting somebody while drunk, or robbing a bank ... and that's a not a good enough reason to get out of it then she's okay to decide she wants to be fucked. If a girl is with somebody, dating, relationship, married or anythign you have no responsibility over it…
/r/seduction22/12/15 09:32 AM
3

plenty of comment suggesting that people here are assholes. For the record she didn't do anything wrong and there is no lesson to learn. She just went with the information she had
/r/seduction22/12/15 09:22 AM
1

but is the cherry blossom thing because you know the scent's name and you know she's japanese and they fit because cherry blossoms go together better than pimps and their bitches?
/r/seduction21/12/15 06:12 PM
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yep, i overdo it sometime and come off as an asshole - in fact did i write a field report about my night out? I don't recall but basically it's quite a hard thing to calibrate. As long as your intention is "fun" rather than just calling shit out on their bullshit for the sake of doing it (or asserting your authority/alphaness or something) then it'll be okay. The point is really that you have to be able to say "i'm having fun with this"
/r/seduction21/12/15 05:05 PM
3

"This is a public service announcement, We are afraid to inform you that the owner of this account has been arrested for extra-terrestrismific activity. Subsequently he has been shipped fo Area 51 for rigorous interrogation and probing. If you happen to be affiliated with his alien origins then please do not start firing that green shit at us - we will be done with him presently. If you are replying to his original request for dating then please be careful the goal of his alien species was to se…
/r/seduction21/12/15 04:26 PM
5

The sidebar honestly doesn't really contain a fantastic amount of information. There's more than Mark Manson - Models. It's just the book that is currently in-vogue. Basically the zeitgeist has gone from basically giving routines/lines/openers/DHV techniques and examples to pushing more and more towards what this all means in a more general sense. Mark Manson's book is the latest in a trend series that begins to display meta-traits that people should have to become attractive people. It's certai…
/r/seduction21/12/15 12:18 PM
1

You're joking - you must be trolling? If she gives you shit about it... "I'm saving up for when we get divorced"
/r/seduction21/12/15 11:58 AM
2

Catch == wanting a relationship with you 1) It seems more that she thinks you're kind shy about your sexual past, when a girl thinks you're lying about hooking up with an old girl it kind of gives that "I'm being defensive and lying about my past so you dont think badly of me" - it's kind of needy and beta behaviour. Her trying to find out for herself is really probably just a test to see if you're bullshitting her. Maybe you could throw it round like "well, if you're so interested in me fucking…
/r/seduction21/12/15 11:34 AM
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Well that's only a factor if you think that intoxicated people are "taken advantage of" or are actually still responsible for their own actions. Personally, if you're fucked on coke/alcohol/mdma i think you're still responsible - technically so does the law - so you're good. No white knighting here mate :D
/r/seduction21/12/15 11:12 AM
0

"You want to split evenly or figure out ?" or just say soemthing like that
/r/seduction21/12/15 10:56 AM
1

One implies you're going out to meet somebody. It's a mutual meeting of two people expecting to be in the same place at the same time so that they can hang out. "taking her out" implies that you will essentially totally lead the whole thing. I know that you should lead all situations but the difference is that you're setting the initial expectation of "I am leading this interaction and i'll be organising and setting it up". It's more like she's coming out with you, and not you both going out to …
/r/seduction21/12/15 10:37 AM
2

I think she's trying to catch you. The no sex thing seems like her trying to actually not have you end up thinking she's some kind of easy slut. The handjob/fingering (why didn't you get blown?) probably was to keep you interested. But there are a few things you can most definitely take from this: She is really into you (duh) she does want to fuck You can message her it's no problem - just don't start being needy. I think (and always recommend unless in an exclusive relationship) that you at lea…
/r/seduction21/12/15 10:34 AM
3

Too needy. If you can't tell you're joking from the sentence itself then don't write it - you should never back out of making a joke with "hehe only joking"... it gives the impression that you're scared you might have offended her. In essence you're altering the behaviour to match what you think she expects of you. I'd have been more interested to see what she replied to "what you gonna do about it, huh?" hurry up thennnnnnnnn sounds like the kid trying to get her parents to join the queue of an…
/r/seduction21/12/15 10:11 AM
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IF you're "taking her out" then pay. If she's going out with you or you're meeting somewhere for food then let her split. I'd agree more with /u/hothamandfrisco than /u/ladyboii if you wanna pay or aren't bothered, just do it and worry more about escalating the relationship into something you want
/r/seduction21/12/15 10:07 AM
1

I don't condone everything /r/theredpill does but essentially you could dreadgame her. Basically, currently she's into you and she knows you're into her. So she at the stage where "I need to feel good about myself, not jumping right on another guy's cock so soon after breaking up" (read: Anti-slut defence), it seems like this at least. So next time you go out you should start chatting to or hitting on other girls. Basically is to get her to see a bunch of girls being into you and wanting to jump…
/r/seduction21/12/15 09:20 AM
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or MDMA/E alcohol invite them over for a movie that is slightly provocative?
/r/seduction21/12/15 09:11 AM
1

Tinder sucks balls. Really - woe upon those that have passed the pay wall and are now funding it. As people mention it's just because they're getting so much option and hit on and they haven't had to deal with these people IRL. My profile isn't really set up too well either, so i guess i'm not maximising my matches - but even when i do the girls I've managed somehow end up flaking. I've had a couple of dates from tinder but not many. I was planning on moving to POF and OKC in the near future.
/r/seduction21/12/15 08:41 AM
3

agreed, do it
/r/seduction21/12/15 08:35 AM
2

Well played, good job! I know wha tyou mean about feeling you shoul have just been right to the point... but you know, it's all good in the end
/r/seduction21/12/15 08:33 AM
1

There's slow and there's not getting fucked.
/r/seduction21/12/15 08:31 AM
2

maybe she didn't want him to see affection with you? But, i'm curious about why you haven't had sex with her yet
/r/seduction20/12/15 08:10 PM
2

Do you often do what women tell you? The only response to that should be "You turn around" then grin as you look around her at her ass. Or the tried and tested: "fuck off" coupled with a look that says she's stupid.
/r/seduction20/12/15 10:22 AM
7

Ask if she's your long lost sister
/r/seduction20/12/15 10:09 AM
2

The problem is.. that all these bits of advice, while true and fundamental to the whole of game (night especially) are just a series of meta-traits one should possess. Being hyper, energetic, self-amusing, fun is all well and good - but not everybody knows how to be that nor do they know how to direct that energy and power into something that can construct a rapport with women in order to result in fclosing etc.
/r/seduction20/12/15 09:21 AM
1

Well, actually, Maybe I am I went out last night and kind of overplayed it. Some girl started flirting with me, we were kinoing on the ddance floor dancing she told me it was her birthday and we were laughing and joking around for a bit. She asked me to guess her age - and I kind of put my hand on her face to move it left and right to get a good look at her and inspect her... but i must of did it in a bit of a weird way because she pulled a "wtf" face. Anyway, i stopped and just quickly went str…
/r/seduction20/12/15 09:19 AM
1

Well, i get my fair share anyway. Just I think because this russian girl was super hot - I kinda tripped over myself. I was also standing infront of a bunch of people while doing it - so ig uess I was on the spot a little too. All in all, it was just a bit of a fuckup, not really an endemic problem
/r/seduction20/12/15 09:13 AM
3

Best response ever: "Well if i'm a child and you're up here to sleep with me, that makes you a paedophile and I will not be hanging around with no damn pervert!" - Peter Griffin
/r/seduction19/12/15 07:24 PM
1

Well, only good cuz I asked and got the numbers. Bad cuz i didn't really do game - i kinda fucked that up. But you know, outcome independent, but it'll be pretty good if they come round to mine for some lovin'
/r/seduction19/12/15 07:17 PM
1

I actually find night game quite difficult. Day game is easy, you just open them, talk some shit.. tell them they look cute - make some observational stuff and then get their number and tell them you wanna go for coffee. Night game is a different animal. conversation is much harder - and easier to bore people when they're missing out on the night (or so they think)
/r/seduction19/12/15 06:11 PM
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But, you know.... it's not as difficult as you thought, is it? Good man, keep going /r/100sets Rock it - keep ups updated
/r/seduction19/12/15 06:02 PM
1

PLease note that i've been drinking since this happened (during the day) so i can't write... Note that i wasn't drunk/or had a drink when i did these
/r/seduction19/12/15 05:33 PM
3

Drugs and hookers can be fun too. I highly recommend Vegas or Amsterdam Still, you should be cold approaching.
/r/seduction19/12/15 09:32 AM
7

I did this, actually. After i got her number she told me she had a BF and kind of resisted all my flirtations. Nearly a year later i hit her up out of the blue "I'll be back on town next weekend, come hang out with me" and she was super ready and willing "can't wait to meet you again!" and stuff. Go for it, if she doesn't reply, forget her.
/r/seduction19/12/15 09:28 AM
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I like to tear her up IF she's tiny and petite then chances are that her pussy looks delectable. I want to devour her - and all the better for the guy because when you're done she's aching with post-orgasmic bliss. I think it depends on the dynamic of the hookup - if you take her to some random bathroom then chances are she's just gonna blow you before getting fucked. If it's a fast-paced, lust filled session then actually going down on the girl generally slows the pace - and sometimes isn't wor…
/r/seduction19/12/15 09:27 AM
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I find it really odd when people mention about "what goes with your natural smell" and "chemically compatible with your body chemistry" etc. I have an underlying feeling that this is just brand marketing to help sell lots of different fragrances, perfumes and colognes. I don't really think that any kind of cologne has any noticable difference when worn by different people, in terms of scent - again, i'm going to call bullshit on this until somebody can point me in a enlightening direction. I thi…
/r/seduction19/12/15 09:24 AM
2

Yes, A couple of things: I think you were a bit too chatty. "Oh hi, how ar eyou doing this fine wonderful day, a couple of questions coming your way... " at least in the beginning you seemed a bit too committed to making long messages - the tone was actually great, kind of light and friendly. I think you kind of let her take the lead too much. It seemed she was kind of making the suggestions. She mentioned a movie, I wouldn't ever take a girl to the movies on a first date.. Can't talk, can't rea…
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:47 PM
2

Stop messaging her, delete her - move onto the next
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:24 PM
2

1) you're not ugly, therefore being average makes you better than around 50% than the world's population. 2) Everyone is boring to some degree - even the coolest people you might have ever heard of (Jim Morrison?) used to basically do things like read 300 books per year. That's pretty dull, to most people, right? (I mean reading is excellent and i recommend every person at least reads 50 books per year). Nobody can be 100% interesting and energetic and wonderufl all the time. It's okay to be bor…
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:20 PM
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so uncondition it. Stop making excuses. It's friday night and i'm not going out tonight, i'm in a bit of a pissy mood - so forgive the ranting nature of my next point. This is what bothers me about people, they'll find any fucking excuse in the world to not do something. "Oh i can't do this, i can't get over that, I have so much anxiety, i wasn't raised that way and I just automatically assume that anything good happening to me might be some machinations of a cunt trying to shit all over me." At…
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:38 PM
5

Wrong mentality brah That is the mind of a cynic and a pessimist. Fuck that.
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:14 PM
1

PLating kind of means keeping her around as a fuck buddy
/r/seduction18/12/15 08:28 PM
1

Fuck bothering strangers, who cares if you're bothering them or not. Let me ask this, if some random pretty gal came up to you and started talking to you about stuff, would you be upset? Would you be bothered if some random guy came up and started chatting breeze with you? I most definitely would be cool with that. Here's a better way of doing it: Redefine your goals: Each person you talk with, you have to find one interesting thing about them. Maybe they're a struggling musician or she recently…
/r/seduction18/12/15 08:10 PM
1

Agreed. If he's not too fussy about messing around with her, he could start conditioning threesomes out of her or something... Though, i'm very strongly against the notion of being a cunt.
/r/seduction18/12/15 08:01 PM
1

Agreed, no good wil come from this - unless you basically fuck her and then use her as a plate (TRP terminology)
/r/seduction18/12/15 07:57 PM
1

I was very seriously considering going to the one in London, so would also appreciate any information that people have regarding this.
/r/seduction18/12/15 07:42 PM
1

I think such things not 100% guaranteeable to be IOIs or anything else. You have to start thinking of it more in a different way. If she smiles at you, that gives you a 10% chance that she might be interested. If she's touching you and playfully hitting you while you're talking to her, that's a stronger IOI say 60% She might just have remembered something funny that her boyfriend said to her as she was being facialed. basically you put a bunch of her behaviours into a category that more or less …
/r/seduction18/12/15 07:41 PM
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Internet big-balls syndrome. It's easy for a girl to talk shit about you online. No investment, no feeling of insecurity when you pissy somebody off to their face, no intimidation by your presence. You're an entity, not a person. Not sure what you mean by honeypotting, to be honest... maybe if you're in a public role of celebrity or something who has a reputation I think everybody has to expect that in dating at some point things are going to get sexual. Have you ever had a romantic relationship…
/r/seduction18/12/15 02:21 PM
2

Go anyway. "Hey baby, i might not be a great catch but this flu is.... come and share your germs with me"
/r/seduction18/12/15 01:51 PM
3

Agreed. The problem is usually that the aggressive move, if it pulls off will just put him into a relationship where he's already got oneitis for a girl - and is pretty much setting himself up to being a doormat. To be honest, entering any kind of relationship from this position of weakness is a bad idea as it'll flow through your behaviour for the entire thing. Also, if it does work then it's likely attracting a girl to you based on qualities that you don't really have and leads to the followin…
/r/seduction18/12/15 12:21 PM
4

live with it and go meet women IRL instead. Good look finding a girl who won't reply when you say "Hi how are you doing?" in the street.
/r/seduction18/12/15 11:46 AM
1

Well, that reinforces my point. But the fundamental principle is this: They want to feel like they can be protected. You don't have to be tall for that - only physically present The other issue is that you shouldn't really ask women what they think they are attracted to or not. Usually they don't know. "I want a nice guy who will not treat me like shit. bleh bleh bleh" - then ends up in a 6month fling by a guy that fucks the shit out of her and kicks her ass when he gets drunk. Fish can't teach …
/r/seduction18/12/15 11:30 AM
2

To be honest, my instinct to any kind of this post that "oh i really like girl X" or "oneitis" Move on. Even if you get with her you'll be her bitch.
/r/seduction18/12/15 11:25 AM
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OP is the guy who posted about getting flaked on with online ads. - If that's your attitude, and you think you have no chance. Then get a good fucking hobby and enjoy never having sex or any kind of relationship with anybody. I'm in my 30s, I live in a city with nobody i know apart from a couple of schoolmates from back in the day. I live 200 miles from my social group or work mates and am currently living with my brother, while buying property. 2 years ago, I broke up with my LTR gf, I hated my…
/r/seduction18/12/15 11:24 AM
1

I even think this height thing is a bunch of bullshit. I think the height thing is important for most girls because they don't want to feel bigger or stronger than their men. I mean everybody has qualities that they prefer, some chicks do like nerdy little guys - but the fact is I think most women (at least in my experience) appreciate the belief that their man has physical presence and strong powerful capabilities. If all that can be conveyed without being a 6'8" monster then all the better - a…
/r/seduction18/12/15 10:08 AM
1

Caps Lock Guy, you are fast becoming my hero.
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:21 AM
1

I'll review it - i read it last week.
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:19 AM
8

Or even better, dress as Captain Hook... and then you can use the line "Or no amount of fapping will bring you back"... wait, that's right isn't it?
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:17 AM
1

well if you're trying to get hookups on craig's for some random chick to come and take a pounding... well naturally they're going to care more about looks and fulfilling their hot slutty fantasies more than anything else. If you're some pasty white, thinning hair guy and their fantasy includes some ripped up herculean golden-hued stued... well ... then they're going to fail to jutify to themselves meeting a random stranger for a casual anonymous fuck session. The fact is, i suspect that the majo…
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:15 AM
2

Well, it's not unrealistic. you really just need to square yourself away a bit in terms of appearance, make sure you're not overweight, get some good pictures and maybe convey qualities other than clooney-esque good looks. The fact is online dating, as mentioned, is vastly skewed to benefitting women. It also skews towards focusing primarily on appearance. The majority of people insta-judge people on appearance and not much else to begin with. If you have bad pictures, shitty poses or indeed jus…
/r/seduction18/12/15 09:08 AM
1

I am sceptical. link me some info
/r/seduction17/12/15 08:00 PM
3

I'm listening....
/r/seduction17/12/15 04:53 PM
3

I don'tknow what horny goat weed is
/r/seduction17/12/15 04:15 PM
2

This happened to me a few times during my teens. I'd meet a girl online, we'd talk, flirt and really getinto each other. Then we'd trade pictures and after she gave me hers and I praised her for herbeauty, i'd send mine and she'd kinda go cold. It was disgusting and heartbreaking for me - and really damaged my ability to think of myself as attractive and really flooded through my life on a wave of bullshit. To this day, i really don't like pictures of myself and am pretty certain that it'snot po…
/r/seduction17/12/15 09:43 AM
3

stop cumming, stop watching any kind of porn After 3 days i want to jump anything with even a vague hint of feminity, even dudes. After a couple of weeks the constant ache in my balls actually means i go from any kind of dandering about the issue to very direct. "come with me now, i'm going to take you back to my place and put my dick in you" However, I really think it helps if you're at least a decent way through a reboot - so stop watching porn.
/r/seduction17/12/15 09:04 AM
1

Caps Locks Guy good luck with it, make sure you post your results here too
/r/seduction17/12/15 08:38 AM
1

You know, I can't believe i've not read this or had it go through my mind. I think this is the gem of wisdom for the week. Well done mon ami!
/r/seduction17/12/15 08:34 AM
6

drugs/fame help too
/r/seduction17/12/15 08:30 AM
1

I have been on a journey through time and space - then break into some crimping.
/r/seduction16/12/15 09:54 AM
2

Well id on'tknow what precedence means in the context of pickup. But precedence basically means 'coming before'. If it's happened before there is a precedent for it. Frame is just about how you think about things in your mind. Lets say you lose your job, an example of different frames would be: "oh no, i'm going to die, i'll have no paycheck and i was wronged so terribly" or "Well, now i'm free to go and explore south america! Fuck yes!" IT's essentially based on the idea that your perspective w…
/r/seduction16/12/15 09:05 AM
2

he means stand infront of the girl and say "Anything" repeatedly until she looks at you weirdly and walks of. "anything anything anything anything anything" Am i right? yea baby
/r/seduction16/12/15 08:57 AM
0

1) Nothing, good game - you really drilled through that awkwardness even though it was pretty aparrent she really didn't want to be around you. Maybe touching on a bit of harassment, but you know, if she'snot going to tell you to fuck off you can talk to her right? Good game 2) If anything there were 2 instances: calling her popular, don't boost her ego more telling her she has nonverbal fuck off stamped all over her head. In this case i think you set yourself up because the instant thought woul…
/r/seduction16/12/15 01:46 AM
3

See Actually nobody here said anything helpful. This is a probelm I have when i'm not really in the mood. It's best to just write down a list of a few things that you can say that might work. Obviously some of them are observational but others can just be general inquiries that lead to some discussion. I'd write a list of maybe 10-20 things that you can fall back on - and if you naturally run out of things to say then you can simply pick one of your go tos. It sometimes may sound robotic, and it…
/r/seduction16/12/15 01:20 AM
2

Well as mentioned in other threads there's always an element of "customer service" - but I'd say there was no hard and fast rule about hitting on girls working. I do it.
/r/seduction16/12/15 01:04 AM
2

As a completely side topic, i checked out your history. Read this book: the gift of fear
/r/seduction16/12/15 12:32 AM
1

I agree with some of it. Not everything. Basically the moment a girl makes out with you you can pretty much guarantee she's thought of having your cock run through her and thought it was a good idea. Whether you turn her off or fuck that up later, or she flakes out is a different story - but know that at the point that her tongue is in your mouth, she's thinking about being fucked with fondness. In terms of your tooling the other guy. Fuck him, who cares? You have no obligation to him to help hi…
/r/seduction16/12/15 12:28 AM
2

Gotta say, you should have banged her. Okay: I think the issue here is that perhaps she does like you and she's really into you - the over mentioning of just being friends, the kissing another guy and all that kind of suggests to me maybe that she's just been fucked over or has told her self she wants to live free for a while. So she's told her friend over and over that she needs a FWB or fuckbuddy but is kind of rationalising her attraction to you this way. This is based on only the information…
/r/seduction15/12/15 10:21 PM
3

Hear me my brothers!
/r/seduction15/12/15 02:59 PM
3

This happened to me. I dropped all communication with her, it took her about a week - 2 weeks to work up the courage to apologise for flaking out. N.B. Probably shouldn't consider her out of your league. It trains your mind to think negatively about getting with a high value woman.
/r/seduction15/12/15 11:46 AM
1

I think the latter option is basically a waste of time.
/r/seduction15/12/15 11:43 AM
3

Well to kind of follow the point of /u/scumbagpotato "like no other person I've seen in a while" Attractive and surprisingly intriguing, like nobody esle you've seen in a while. Did you get that while you were staring at her ass? I wonder how many girls you've seen or spoken to "in a while"if you suggest that some waitress chatting to you and doing her job around you somehow becomes more than any other attracive girl you've seen in the past while. "Call it oneitis i dont care i need to see this …
/r/seduction15/12/15 11:43 AM
6

I think that the real way to get out of this is to disconnect from your feelings. In all cases where self-hatred and unhappiness is present it's simply a result of some lack of personal discipline or ability to get anything done. It's very easy to sit and be unhappy that you have no friends, no fuck buddy, no girlfriend, you're fat, unhealthy and have achieve nothing, many people feel that way. Similarly something I've always found to struggle with is about who cares for me, my long term relatio…
/r/seduction15/12/15 09:08 AM
1

Just be honest about it, if you wanna bone her but don't want a relationship then go for it (here in UK 17 year olds are fair game - if it's US, you'll go to tjail and get gangraped, so choose wisely) If she seems to not believe that you can fuck her without getting in a relationship or she refuses to believe it, then best just find a girl who is older. If she can handle it then go for it, if she can't .... well her older brothers or dad might come kick your ass for defiling their precious littl…
/r/seduction14/12/15 09:00 PM
2

To be honest, I think vulnerability as described in that book is really a misnomer. It's really just suggesting you take risks, and risk is essentially synonymous with vulnerability. If you rebrand it as taking a risk most people will probably end up not looking like a scared, whimpering, unconfident lamer. I'm not suggesting that what you did was at all being unconfident, you were still setting yourself aside from most of the AFC's in the street. But i think there's definitely a risk of calling…
/r/seduction14/12/15 03:59 PM
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this is kind of a ridiculous reason not to have sex with people, even promiscuously. Why do you drive? You could crash? why do you fly? you could die? why do you play football? you can get injured etc.
/r/seduction14/12/15 01:45 PM
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I reckon that rather than cutting contact with her you should up your contact with other people. The problem with this whole situation "the investment funnel" is that you're not getting a good comparative perspective of potential gfs/parters/fwbs. Basically, you're leaping, as you say because someone has shown a bit of interest. I can't help but feel this is a tiny bit trollish, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If she's giving you so much problems with the rest of your life, just dele…
/r/seduction14/12/15 01:36 PM
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paragraphs plz
/r/seduction14/12/15 01:23 PM
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I can't think of any specific books that relate to being intimate with people. I think that relationship bonds, whether romantic of friendly are developed and strenghtened through the following things: Knowing a person (the more you talk and know somebody the more intimate you are) Actually allowing each other to see flaws/weaknesses - to blast the current in-vogue saying "be vulnerable" To have a shared sense of purpose, morality or idealogy. While they don't have to be the same, they have to b…
/r/seduction14/12/15 11:52 AM
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Well then, do what makes you happy :) np
/r/seduction14/12/15 11:22 AM
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I think selectionof job should primarily be based on the requirement of your own goals and happiness. If being good at pickup is that, then choose someting awesome - bartender is good - a volleyball team's massage therapist is good - i hear that photographers get laid a lot. But.... first and foremost see to yourself. Sorting yourself out and makign sure you're cool and happy with yourself is the surest way to be getting girls or not giving a fuck, total win win.
/r/seduction14/12/15 09:46 AM
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If it's not a career and is part time, definitely pull that trigger baby.
/r/seduction14/12/15 09:16 AM
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When i win I just go for the ring girls two at a time.
/r/seduction14/12/15 08:46 AM
1

anyone who is not family or too young is fair game. I know the feeling bro.
/r/seduction13/12/15 09:46 PM
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go find out, let me know.
/r/seduction13/12/15 08:56 PM
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fallacy I don't mean that you shouldn't be who you want to be or true to yourself. What i mean is that you should strive to be better than who you are today. The point is, if i was happy with who I was then I wouldn't be workingout, learning pickup, doing things that make my life amazing. It's a fairly semantic point - but the idea to love yourself no matter what while true in principle falls short of wisdom when one is depressed/unhappy/etc. It was a fairly round about way of suggesting that on…
/r/seduction13/12/15 08:39 PM
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gym reading learn something create something
/r/seduction13/12/15 08:21 PM
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Romance is not a romantic relationship. I'm sure there are examples in history where a romantic relationship took place without a sexual element - but good luck finding it, and it's most definitely not standard practice
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:53 PM
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One is a subset of the other.
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:43 PM
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you're a better man than me. I've tried to implement and introduce these things as adamant rules in my existence, i often fail.
/r/seduction13/12/15 05:46 PM
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Most of the people state quite clearly their level of interaction with the person. "some girl i find cute in a coffee shop" - there isn't a great deal to really like. She could be some stunning beautiful angel fallen from heaven but if you're acting like you love her after having seen her and ordered coffee from her a couple of times, you're over invested. If you want to invest in women, please do it, I just recommend that you get to know them via the medium of sexual and/or romantic relationshi…
/r/seduction13/12/15 05:44 PM
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Well, okay, you know what I meant. There's more to measure a man with than his ability to handle himself.
/r/seduction13/12/15 05:11 PM
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Well i'd always recommend doing something vaguely related to martial arts. But i wouldn't say that you're not a real man unless you can kick the crap out of people. There are better qualitites to measure a man by.
/r/seduction13/12/15 04:54 PM
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There is real power in knowing that if somebody starts being physically aggressive with you that they wouldn't last a minute in your world. Being fit also helps you feel better and confident too. If you're lifting and end up getting jacked, and can handle yourself in a fight (don't do boxing unless you intend to at least spar) then you get confident. I don't like jut repeating shit i hear all the time. But recently a bouncer started giving me shit about how if he wasn't on the door now he'd kick…
/r/seduction13/12/15 04:07 PM
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Genetics is the fallacy of the century. Everybody attributes success with anything to genetics and the fact is that it really only contributes to the highest or lowest level of outliers. When you get professional fighters, for example, they train just as hard as each other, just as much and essentially whether they seemed more or less ripped they're just as likely to knock each other out. There are a few outliers in every situation - granted it applies mroe to things like diabetes and short sigh…
/r/seduction13/12/15 01:11 PM
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You are totally right, this is all about me and the stigma i attached to it due to personal experience of the guy who went. I've met some columbian guys who radiate awesomeness and just take it for granted that all south american man can Salsa, there's no shame in it. As for the butch/fat/older women, you're right you can learn to appreciate it, enjoy it and even be aroused by it. One of them is much easier than the others (older) and I seem to be quite attracted to femininity (duh, right?) so t…
/r/seduction13/12/15 12:37 PM
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I have an issue with this myself. All my hobbies are generally solo, or very very male orientated. Boxing, Muay thai, wrestling, etc. There are a couple of girls, some are pretty butch though. Other hobbies are usually quite geeky, gaming/programming/engineering, in general. I am slightly put off by the idea of going to dancing class - one of my old work mates was a 32 year old beta, creeper who used to go salsa dancing so he could meet women. It just came off a little too desperate/lame/etc. Th…
/r/seduction13/12/15 11:05 AM
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Maybe she hadn't shaved her legs or something.
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:55 AM
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"You are the catch" not the woman - if you're running around yourself trying to chase some girl or figure out some deeper meaning to that offhanded sentence she said then you're simply more invested than she is in the whole situation. Think about it this way, while you're sat here on reddit talking to a bunch of people trying to figure out whether "Oh i'm busy tonight" means she's interested or really wants to jump your bone, she's likely out experiencing the world and not giving the slightest f…
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:50 AM
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maybe, if you had good chemistry give her one free strike. Try to arrange again - in most cases it might not even be a good idea. Bench her and move onto the next girl. I had a similar issue recently, just stopped messaging her.
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:47 AM
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investment funnel
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:44 AM
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Did you stop criticising people? That was the most significant thing I read in HTWFAIP. Abraham Lincoln's story about being critical or derisive to people, or behind their back.
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:38 AM
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My go to response is: "Good then you have somebody to hang out with when i'm not around"
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:35 AM
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The God Delusion The Gift of Fear How to win friends and influence people Arnold Schwarzenegger's biography Good that you started reading books. Bad that you started reading so late. If at any point of your life you're not reading a book then you're doing something wrong. I break my schedul up like this: read 1-3hrs/day one non fiction book - whether 'game' or things such as popular science/history/etc. one fiction book - keep the creative spirit going and have fun with easy reading one non fict…
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:29 AM
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Yes i agree, though I really the behaviour of this kind of thing is two-fold. 1) Women and society are conditioned to believe that - ment can't hit women for any reason. Whether that's right or wrong is irrelevent, the fact is that it gives some people big brass balls where humility might (in tribal, proto-mankind society) have been present. 2) So many guys feel the need to prove themselves. Ultimately I believe those axiomatic mantras that "the master engages only a worth opponent", "confidence…
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:24 AM
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You know, I think this strategy is the cornerstone of the pickup "don't do this" category. It makes you a simpering little pussy who will tread on egg shells around women so you don't inadvertently offend them with your sexual interest. Note that i'm not caling you a pussy directly, I think everyone here has been like that at some point - myself included - but hopefully it will slap you in the face enough for you to realise that you don't really have to be subtle, or tread carefully around them.…
/r/seduction13/12/15 08:08 AM
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Point is, the same way that a 5 foot 2" man isn't meant to play in the NBA some men just aren't meant to get tonnes of women. Sure you can do all this pick up artist stuff but at the end of the day, if you're like me you're not going to do it. That hurt my feels. Your point makes a lot of sense and it is totally correct. My three simple rules for happiness in life are these: Select what you want to do/accomplish Determine the steps needed to achieve that goal DO IT MOTHER FUCKER! It works the sa…
/r/seduction13/12/15 08:02 AM
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I don't really think that was founded on the ideals and bullshit engine that is modern feminism I think it's more related to desperate needy pussies wanting to get their dick away and not having the awareness and presence of mind to be selective in the cunts (that is the most fantastic play on words you'll read this week) they're aiming for.
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:51 AM
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Not overt, from what i recall, i was pretty drunk though. One thing I did distinctly note however was all that the signs he represented as her being interested in him she was doing to me. Under normal circumstances I'd suggest her holding onto my hand, putting my arm around her generally being all touchy feely with me as a sign that she wanted to be drilled through to the earth's mantle... but she was on cocaine. Naturally, I assume that if i decided to go for it she'd be boucing up and down all…
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:50 AM
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I think that just adds to happiness :D
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:42 AM
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Nope, she's told him explicitly twice that she just wants to be friends.
/r/seduction12/12/15 08:43 PM
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He does know. I guess she's not told him 'explicitly' or introduced him to one of these guys.. .but i've told him and he said "yea" and she'd told him too that she's essentially been seeing people If one was ever going to give the most exemplified example of pathetic needy beta bitch, this would be it.
/r/seduction12/12/15 07:00 PM
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giggity
/r/seduction12/12/15 06:48 PM
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It's his own fault. But pitiable, agreed.
/r/seduction12/12/15 06:48 PM
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You know, i think you're getting bogged down in details. I think people don't trust their gut enough. Read a book called "The Gift of Fear" - it'll explain what i mean when i say: Human kind has spent millenia developing some kind of sixth sense awareness that picks up on social cues, threats, opportunities and such to be able to contribute to a surviving species. While perhaps this might be less developed thatn the fight or flight response or fear. There is definitely some wisdom in suggesting …
/r/seduction12/12/15 06:25 PM
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Just read the book again. The only response people usually can and will give to this is the exact thing you'd read in the book. read below to see I'm correct.
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:24 PM
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Dude, go to the fucking doctor.
/r/seduction12/12/15 05:05 PM
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The really shitty thing is that she's actually a pretty awesome girl. There's nothing actually wrong with who she is. She's just early twenties, likes having some guy all over her. It's total validation for her, support and ways to help her ego. She's not a bitch at all, maybe a bit slutty, but nothing wrong with that. He is a very good friend of mine, and i'm pretty certain that we'd never be friedns again after i did that. But frankly he deserves it, agreed. I'm not really going to actively go…
/r/seduction12/12/15 04:33 PM
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Pull the trigger. The one thing that i realised after the fact was really that even if i'd have been really bad in bed, or not been able to get it up, it'd havce still been great fun and I could have continued the next morning. It really drilled home that just being friendly, and sociable with people really is enough. As long as you're willing to take that little step to make clear the fact you want to fuck her. At one point i even said: "so on a scale of 1-10 how good are you at kissing?" once …
/r/seduction12/12/15 04:29 PM
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She was, totally. I missed that out of my post. She's off doing cocaine off toilet seats wiht her friends, going clubbing every week and getting ploughed over and over. If i was more of an asshole, i'd have probably fucked her myself just to drive home the point to him. Might have ended my friendship, but you know... tough love. Plus, she is pretty cute. I took him out on Halloween - because fuck those girls look good dressed up - and he just sat there like some married guy with a "Ah you young …
/r/seduction12/12/15 03:47 PM
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Well the good news is, that's probably the worst thing that might ever happen to you in your days of pickup. Everything else, aside from an ass kicking is pretty easy in comparison. This kinda shit is probably why /r/TheRedPill exists, or at least one of the main contributing factors. The guys being all in your shit about it are just "white knighting" to borrow a phrase. And nobody in a club environment who wants to get their dick away is going to take the responsible objectlve stand point in th…
/r/seduction12/12/15 03:19 PM
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I told them that I'm not really hugely interested in a long term thing, i'll hang out be friends and just generally have fun - but my intentions are to have sex with them. I've been very clear about that. The biggest step, if it can be called that, is that I'm now okay with making sure that I get what I want - if it goes against what she wants then that's cool, we just go our own way. I still struggle on occasion with this kind of thing today (nowhere near as much as in the past) , I'm not total…
/r/seduction12/12/15 02:30 PM
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Take her somewhere else then. IF she's interested she'd probably come hang out anyway. /u/steffbenji is right if it sounds fun she'll probably be okay. If you got her nmber already then she probably already knows you're interested. I guess the only risk is if you say "oh why don't you come hang out in my room nudge nudge wink wink baby" then she might get the ASD kicking in (anti-slut defence).
/r/seduction12/12/15 01:40 PM
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Well if you can't take the painful awkward silence you should give yourself an action to do which you can focus on. Like just nod, smile, turn on Billie Jean and moonwalk away.
/r/seduction12/12/15 01:28 PM
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I give you +1 for making this geeky as fuck. And while the dynamic kind of works in principle, I always come back to the question: "how many hours have you spent playing game X?" imagine doing that for pickup, or guitar, or programming, or writing, or painting. Your point is totally correct, I'm just sore about games in general.
/r/seduction12/12/15 11:33 AM
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Well it's hard, if you're not in it you're not in it. I appreciate that there's a difference between being in the zone and kind of not feeling it. But sometimes you just don't want to be out drinking - While i think it's totally cool to have days where you sit and think "I just can't be fucked going out drinking and partying with loud music and bleh bleh" every night you always need to develop a healthy sense of "fuck what i feel, i'll do it anyway" in every progression of self development. I th…
/r/seduction12/12/15 11:31 AM
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I have a similar situation at work. Though I guess my feelings aren't so much feeling but more along the lines of wanting to ruin the girl for other men. I'm a big believer of not "shitting where you eat" as /u/superherobeasley wrote. So my recommendation is find another girl. What you wrote in the post suggests that you're already overly invested in her, you develop feelings because she wrote a card and is friendly to you? Wrong. Also, previously liking a girl for seven years and doing nothing …
/r/seduction12/12/15 11:24 AM
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Well, if i'm honest i shouldn't take credit for this idea of the investment funnel. Basically it's a applied-seduction spin on one of the fundamental points of pickup. Abundance Mentality. Whether you're out in poundtown seven days a week with different girls or pursuing a single girl the fundamental point is that you need to ensure you're not over investing in one person, or making the "relationship" out to be something that it isn't. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to have a sing…
/r/seduction12/12/15 10:46 AM
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If you really believe that, have fun never ever getting anything you want in life. If you have hope, stick at it, practice and become better. I can play the guitar and piano... I just have it. I laugh and snort at you losers who just don't have it. (for the relatively unaware, this is dripping sarcasm)
/r/seduction12/12/15 10:40 AM
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Well, you know you can care about people in an agapic kind of way. You don't have to be madly in love with somebody to appreciate them as a human being and care for them as another person. If that's your mind set (and i used to have it similar) then you need to stop thinking of banging a girl as some kind of conquest to get some chick to comply with your lust before fucking her stupid. Think of it more like two people coming together to experience something awesome together. Whether it be transi…
/r/seduction12/12/15 10:31 AM
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I think at this stage they shouldn't affect your life at all. Maybe down the road after you've dated some othr girls, etc. maybe have another shot, but otherwise... water off a duck's back
/r/seduction12/12/15 10:01 AM
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Well, don't leave us in suspense. What do you disagree with? I've no problems having my views updated or refined by good points. Thanks TMoA
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:44 PM
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Yep, i totally missed it.
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:41 PM
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To be honest, you kind of just encalsupated all of the main principles of pickup and seduction. What actually goes on here and in the whole community is learning how to develop those qualities. It's easier to say "dont be scared to talk to women" to somebody who is. Just saying it doesn't make the fear go away. Similarly "pickup lines are bullshit", it's all well and good saying that but some introverted person who is terrified and doesn't know what the fuck to do might actually feel better abou…
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:45 PM
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yep, fake breasts
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:19 PM
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Yes, breaking habits is hard but it just requires you to break down that whole pleasure feedback system - and that requires neglecting it for significant time while ensuring it's still stimulated by other things. Stay away from alcohol - keep up that good work. I think in the situation where your friends go out bar-hopping and to that kind of social event you really need to get another friend circle. Keep the friends, but naturally your own health takes priority over socialising with your mates.…
/r/seduction11/12/15 08:44 PM
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Investment Funnel. Find other girls, flrt with other girls, have sex with other girls and date other girls... then if you can still be bothered hit this girl up. Whether she's interested or not, I think you've blown your load, so to speak - it's now on her.
/r/seduction11/12/15 08:38 PM
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I dont think it really works like that. At least I don't think it's ever really been like that with me. I guess some guys might get past wanting the girl after he's bedded he - but you know that's not everybody. I think different factors affect this situation. Maybe she is a bit cold, they get to know each other a bit, he finds some characteristics he didn't like and then when she started flirting back he was already kinda turned off to being with her. Or, perhaps while he was flirting with her …
/r/seduction11/12/15 08:36 PM
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There's no reason to abandon her. She can be a good FWB - give him some experience and they could have fun together. If she's going to go boning around then maybe she's not necessarily his kind of wife material, unless he's into that, but no reason they can't have a good time.
/r/seduction11/12/15 08:02 PM
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She already is attracted to you. You don't have to be pro just not be a creepy serial killer rapist. have fun with her treat her like you've known her for a good long while, don't defer to her all the time, you know what i mean. make sure you do escalate take the lead but involve her in the process. Have fun.... just enjoy yourself. Don't think of trying to impress her simply think about "I am with somebody trying to have a good time with them"
/r/seduction11/12/15 07:55 PM
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be skeptical then
/r/seduction11/12/15 07:50 PM
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ask doctor
/r/seduction11/12/15 07:44 PM
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When i'm dancing, i just go into the middle of the dance floor and start grooving, I don't let people move me, I don't really avoid collisions if they're going to happen I just hold my ground and let go. I suspect that I dance terribly, but I always try to have fun and enjoy myself. If i make eye-contact with anyone male or female i'll go for a high five - if they seem friendly too I'll introduce myself. Usually this way you can keep people interacting with you the whole night. (depending on the…
/r/seduction11/12/15 05:25 PM
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Yea, so shit.. give up, never do it again and leave this reddit forever exiled to ..... good game, well done. Keep doing what you're doing - in terms of approaching - can't really say it's a failure at all. Details of the text game would be interesting too. who knows, maybe she got married. I do have a question, just out of general interest - I don't think i could ever call someone honey without it feeling really out of place or just not free-flowing. Do you think that terms of endearment of thi…
/r/seduction11/12/15 05:09 PM
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To be honest it's not really that fapping gives you superpowers - it's really that looking at porn and jerking off all the time affects your natural triggers for sexual arousal. You start getting your dopamine highs from turning on your computer or browsing to porn sites rather than seeing some sexy curvy girl who is looking at you with "fuck me" eyes. "I've been doing nofap for 5 days and feel like super man, have no social anxiety" is all probably psycho somatic... which ironically is the fund…
/r/seduction11/12/15 04:42 PM
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Paragraphs please If you want to bang her then do it. Might as well if you're attracted to her and she's into it. Don't go getting hooked on the idea of being with her: "I can hear nothing you say because of all the things you're doing" (paraphrased) if she likes to have sex and be promiscuous then it's likely she'll continue to do so. I think you should just kinda go with your own flow, be sure to escalate and see what happens. I suspect that her being promiscuous means that the first time you …
/r/seduction11/12/15 04:11 PM
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People want quality the more investment they have. I suspect this is less of an issue for men, or at least it works in a different way. I hate to bring this all basically down to evolution and the old skool tribalism of mammals but from this perspective it's like this: Girls want investment, because they want providers, security and are attracted to qualities that will help them succeed in society and their offspring to also succeed. Strength, authority, status, intelligence. Guys want to secure…
/r/seduction11/12/15 04:10 PM
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Agreed, i think we both agree on these points - thanks for making the debate fun. I think plenty of people can benefit from the discussion and it reinforces some of the axiomatic principles of Pickup/Seduction/etc. I've been a 135kg fat guy before and when i've gone out with a "i dont give a fuck attitude - i'm just here to enjoy myself" and actively engaged with, been positive and confident with girls I've attracted all sorts. You're also right that it's quite hard to measure some of the 'subtl…
/r/seduction11/12/15 03:55 PM
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If he didn't want it then why would he post it here?
/r/seduction11/12/15 03:24 PM
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TheXXL, i think essentially what you're doing here is diminishing his points to make muscularity seem less important. While you're totally correct that it's not the be all and end all, I think actually the OP is a bit more qualified to make the distinctions between 'his fat self' and his 'more msucular self'. I'm not being an asshole or critical of you, exactly, just want to make sure that while your points are very valid, they draw bad comparisons. Even men are treating me nicer Followed by: We…
/r/seduction11/12/15 02:57 PM
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Agreed, your points are spot on. Women are less visual than men - muscularity and physicality is a factor but it's not as big as it is for men. Your points are perfectly valid and correct. I didn't want to suggest that if you're not muscular or are in fact fat then you'll never get laid, or a GF or anything of the sort but in fact it's just another string to add to your bow. Personality, status, etc matters much more than physical appearance to women, from what I can tell. However, all that said…
/r/seduction11/12/15 02:48 PM
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Yes, to a degree. Being dominant, winning or generally 'outdoing' somebody in any situation stimulates the production/release of testosterone. Viewing attractive women stimulates the release of testosterone. Exercising, strength training and, sports and all this kind of stuff increase the levels. Diet is essentially the fuel for everything in your body, missing out on some essential nutrients will affect your body chemistry. Jerking off and watching porn actually damages your (but more watching …
/r/seduction11/12/15 02:41 PM
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Am sorry to hear aoubt the relationship going badly - but nobody has ever once told me about a relationship that ended that was fantastic. So yea, well done. I got out of a 9year relationship and since then my life has changed so much. I have balls, I'm not a bitch so much anymore, I live in a way that makes me happy and ultimately realised that everything about sticking in that relationship was me trying to hang on because I was scared that i might never find anyone else... it's bullshit.
/r/seduction11/12/15 01:58 PM
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We've all been there. Not 21 is no excuse. Go read about daygame. Let me give you an analogy, lets say you sit there every day of your childhood and your father comes home from work, doesn't talk much and when you try to talk to him he just dismissively tells you to go away. It happens all through your childhood, you never really feel like a good conneciton and eventually come to believe he's a bad father. He's shitty, doesn't help you with things you need help with, doesn't give you advice on g…
/r/seduction11/12/15 01:15 PM
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I'm a recovering fat bastard myself. So i totally understand this, at the height of my weight, after a bad LTR breakup, i was probably 300lbs. Now i've lost a tonne and am around .... bah, i work in kg. I was 137kg and am now 108kg. I'm more muscular, and better shaped and frankly it really is something great. It helps you get your foot in the door. ask yourself, would you rather go out with some sexy slim petite, hard bodied girl or some one who like to sit at home eating cake and ice cream and…
/r/seduction11/12/15 01:03 PM
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Ah right, that's fun too. Better for orgies rather than pickup though :D save the big guns for the big guns, so tp speak :D
/r/seduction11/12/15 12:27 PM
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Good for doing it. Really, facing that anxiety and fear is the best thing you can do. You might have been rejected but i think, being constructively critical, it was a hard approach given the situation (in a library) trying to get her to move so you could talk to her was probably the hardmode way of doing it - kudos for trying it. They might have laughed at it. But they were probably not even being mean.... you probably made her feel good about herself and she just wanted to tell somebody that s…
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:58 AM
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1) How do you know you're not very good? how many times have you said: "hey, i'm gonna go now, give me your number so we can go out some time" 2) 10 years older, let her eat you alive and open your eyes into the magical world of couger-ville :D
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:51 AM
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You probably don't have a testosterone problem. I think this, like 'genetics' is a bit overrated. Stop jerking off, stop watching porn. Eat right Sleep enough, but not too much be active/gym/sport be social Instead of actually going out with her with the pre-disposition of "Oh well, she's into me, I have to fuck her" just go out with the mentality that she's a person, she's probably interesting and you can perhaps find someone to hang out with a bit. If she doesn't interest you after the first (…
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:49 AM
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There's no problem we're all here to help each other. And the job i'm working on today got cancelled - so i got time. Inexperienced with girls is fine. Wanting the girl pretty bad is probably going to lead you down the path of 'fucking this up'. Because you'll be over sensitive to her reactions, you'll think before doing everything and try to censor your behaviour to be as cool/impressive as you can be. It'll become kind of robotic. Also, if you're actively trying not to be creepy, then you'll p…
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:45 AM
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Imagine if you'd asked 100 girls out. with a 2:1 ratio you'd be swimming in girls right now and probably not giving a fuck about this girl. Granted 2:1 is pretty ambitious, but the point is still made. Did you typoe? Unfortunately you're good at talking to girls? Is that because you ruin them for all of us other poor-bastards? :D Yea, let me know, you're welcome to message me.
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:27 AM
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yes, there's definitely an element of customer service to any person that works in that industry. Did you get her number? If you 'do' like her and have her number than maybe have another shot at it. " come and do X with me, you free on thursday?". If she flakes on that then forget it - find another. If you don't have her number then it's probably just not worth bothering. I mean she knows you're interested, unless you were really indirect or elusive about the reasons you wanted to hang out. If a…
/r/seduction11/12/15 11:02 AM
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Not drinking/drugging is not a bad thing. You often get negative responses like "What, like omg, how can you NOT drink?" what this basically means it that 90% of their social life is propped up by drinking alcohol. Why do they go out? A: To have a drink with friends. Lame. How do those girls meet people? Get wasted and kind of hope that one time the luck of the draw has them waking up to some good guy who will fulfill their fantasies, otherwise back to the grind-mill the following weekend. A lot…
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:56 AM
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"So you're gonna come chill with me soon right?" good god no. Sounds far too needy. Something similar to that would be cool but not quite like that, for example: "Come over tomorrow and hang out" "blaze of glory to end the finals, tonight" etc. I don't know the 'exact' dynamic for you guys, but if she's at all interested in you she'll probably find a reason to hang out rather than one to bail. So anything neutral or positive in your text would generate a positive result - suggesting smoking if t…
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:24 AM
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I think in most situations actually just walking up to her, showing your obvious interest and engaging her is standing out. Even with people here, before you dealt with your AA, how many times did you think to yourself "oh god she's so beautiful" and then just stood next to her at the bus/trian stop for 10-15mins thinking about a life that could have been. Even in a crowded street, station, etc. If you're the person who is standing in the middle of a crowd having stopped a girl told her she's at…
/r/seduction11/12/15 10:01 AM
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Well, I've had a similar issue to you. One time while i was workign in London I came back to the hotel I was staying at a little tipsy and full of confidence. There was one girl working on reception (this was typically house->hotel style London one) and i just started chatting with her, we seemed to have a good rapport and everything was going well. Then i dropped the question "So, let me get your number" it wasn't really a question just a hook back to something we'd talked about earlier in the …
/r/seduction11/12/15 09:54 AM
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Shame on you.. you should have helped he economy by ploughing her. Escorts need love too.
/r/seduction11/12/15 09:36 AM
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Like i said, king in your own kingdom on the powder white. Just beware the come down, you spend your time in your shower crying and wondering wtf life is so shit
/r/seduction10/12/15 07:42 PM
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If you're sitting in a lounge watching a movie maybe it's a good idea. If you're out daygaming or in a nightclub... nothing gives you a "I can't be fucked with this" attitude more than weed.
/r/seduction10/12/15 07:40 PM
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what is molly? I thought tht meant weed?
/r/seduction10/12/15 07:40 PM
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amphetamine, coke these are pretty good options as they essentially make everything you want to do and say seem awesome. They are essentially potions of pure self-assured confidence. If you ever want to feel what it's like to be a king in your own kingdom that's it. speed isn't really good for you - as it releases all sugar into your blood stream, i can't imagine how regular use wouldn't make you essentially diabetic but i'm not a doctor so don't quote me. P.s. I have ultimate sovereignity over …
/r/seduction10/12/15 07:39 PM
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I don't really like this comment. It's not really true, they might all feel good but not all vaginas are equal. It also really does wonders to reduce the person you're trying to seduce to just "a cunt with some extra skin and body attached". I'm not necessarily being a fluffy evangelical hippy but the whole point of seduction is really to make connections with people and elevate your own life by becoming a great person who is able to develop more opportunities to create relationships with people…
/r/seduction10/12/15 07:34 PM
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/r/seduction look to the right.
/r/seduction10/12/15 02:39 PM
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I didn't read all the replies because tl;dr - but here's my take on it. I've had that feeling before "oh man, I could have had her, i bet she was great" and in general when you look back on girls that you knew or think about girls you still know but aren't available (for some reason?) then you generally tend to make more of their good qualities. "Oh her ass was so perfect... " bleh bleh. It's pretty much 'the halo effect'. It also pushes that whole "I want it feeling" which again is a dopamine s…
/r/seduction10/12/15 01:50 PM
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I'm beginning to think this is a troll.
/r/seduction10/12/15 01:26 PM
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I think the general conclusion that people (at least me) can draw from both your posts here is that you're kind of too invested in it. You over-text, get needy, get pissy/bitchy and generally turn them off. I mean, i totally understand the situation you're in. For me, when i took a step back and looked at my life (and it's not even sorted out fully) I realised that the times when I ended up being a bit too needy like that was when I had nothing going on in life and i was mostly bored. It's like …
/r/seduction10/12/15 01:24 PM
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I think some of us commented on this post already you posted it 8minutes before the other. The impression you're giving - even here - is that you're not really in control of yourself. You're kinda hyperactive about fixing this - a bit too invested in the outcome of this one chick. Go find other girls, put this girl out of mind for now. Don't cut contact or delete her from facebook or whatever, just live your life without her affecting it for a while until she messages you Stop looking at rule34
/r/seduction10/12/15 12:53 PM
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Well basically at this point you probably should just back off. You did come off as kinda needy and a bit pushy - after one date it kinda implies: 'my house is free come over so i can bang you but if you don't do what i want then i'll get offended, needy and bitchy' - at least that seems to me what you conveyed. So, with that in mind I think the only real way to save this is to kind of sit on your heels, go out meet other people continue with life and hope that your 1.5hr date made a good enough…
/r/seduction10/12/15 12:49 PM
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I think you just Game Over'd yourself bro :)
/r/seduction10/12/15 12:29 PM
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Well, OP, at least you get the kudos for trying. Perhaps your timing and set up could have been better. Unless you're in the middle of London and it's packed with tourists and lots of people then the whole talking to a random girl alone on the street screams: "i'm going to try and mug or rape you". The nervousness you likely exhibited probably didn't help ease her worry either. Approaching on the street at night isn't wrong. It just has to be the right setting (outside bar/pub/club/public place …
/r/seduction21/11/15 09:01 PM
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This isn't true. Degrees are overrated in the work place. If you're not an asshole, can get on with people, have shown enough dedication to the field of study to have a good awareness of concepts and techniques then you're pretty much good to go for an entry level position. If they have 10 years on you, then they have 10 years on you, nothing you can do about that other than keep going. Also, if you have to put in twice the work to be at their level and you think it's a good move... do it. Whate…
/r/askTRP21/11/15 09:29 AM
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As well, be logical and reasoned in your thinking. What do you believe will be best for you long term and your life? You probably already know this answer. The only course of action then is to take feeling out of it and just do it. "I dont feel like finishing this degree, i'm not motivated" shouldn't even enter your headspace when you're doing something that you've already decided needs to be done.
/r/askTRP21/11/15 09:26 AM
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most places that you can find women you can also find low SMV women Pick one you don't like so much and then ask her
/r/askTRP20/11/15 10:07 PM
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He said it better than me in 1/4 the text. +1
/r/askTRP20/11/15 08:09 PM
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Well, how about this question: "What would you prefer to do?" I know it's a bit of a cop out question but the fact is that 9-5 jobs are soul destroying with the bullshit that you have to deal with unless you really do enjoy it. Better to get a lower pay and really enjoy it rather than the alternative. If there are no mechanical engineering jobs then well I guess you have to measure a bunch of different factors.
/r/askTRP20/11/15 08:08 PM
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Well, to be honest there are plenty of women that get involved with music. I can't really suggest anything specific to that industry as I've not really had any experience. What I can say is that I really think that the only thing stopping people from getting/doing what they want, usually is themselves. This is true of both genders - usually their method differs. "Whether you think you can or cannot you're usually right" The TRP attitude is that men appreciate masculine traits on men, but also fe…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 08:01 PM
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Finish your degree, do some programming in your spare time. I'd keep with the degree Software development is dull.
/r/askTRP20/11/15 07:55 PM
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Maybe she's setting you up to be her friend
/r/askTRP20/11/15 07:53 PM
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I tried from the start. Trying to get teams to take up parts of the projects that I couldn't do. I tried paying people so many unreliable people. The best position i'm in at the moment is that i've been well-paid for a good while so I can splash money when i need it. It goes that way, you have to inspire other people if you want them to contribute. That means you have to be a major driving force for the initial product yourself. Unless you're a well-established business using contracts and have …
/r/askTRP20/11/15 05:32 PM
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Yep, agreed. Next her - don't say why. If she isn't over her ex, the moment he comes calling her door will be open.
/r/askTRP20/11/15 04:52 PM
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Just to add to this, one of the main things that it also does is condition your brain to have a dopamine (read: reward) response to watching men have sex with women and seeing them both have pleasure. It kind of cuts you out and generally conditions you to be more aroused when seeing peoplg fucking rather than actually having sex yourself. I am reasonably sure the cuckolding fetish in general has really taken off because of this. There's nothing wrong with it exactly, but it does very much go ag…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 04:49 PM
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1) Be social 2) Be active 3) have sex with other women
/r/askTRP20/11/15 04:30 PM
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People put far too much into 'genetics' as an excuse. You see it all over body building, all over seddit, even here to a degree. It's just the latest trend in "oh i'll never be built like Schwarzenegger because genetics". It's a cop out. have an asymmetrical face, small eyes and bad facial structure. I have narrow shoulders and low eyebrows. I have a small dick (don't say dick size doesn't matter because it fucking does and everyone knows this deep down). There aren't many people who don't have …
/r/askTRP20/11/15 04:09 PM
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If you ever want to go out... i've been wanting to go Hulk-mode in Japan for a good while now :)
/r/askTRP20/11/15 03:52 PM
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This is definitely true. I mean I managed to get slimmer/petite girls too and I was 130-140kg at the time (6ft) pretty fat and overweight but in most cases the fact is that the girls who you end up with are kinda fat or maybe a bit insecure or just wanting to get boned. I noticed 'very' strong results when i started trying to spit game at them. While reading the Game initially, i went out did a couple of things and had some very petite chick literally swooning over me - she was pretty hot and i'…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 02:57 PM
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Check out something called the HALO effect. (Not where kids get fat and smell of cheesits cuz they're sat on XBox all day) I find it really hard to imagine what real ugly is all about. You're not a fat bastard, most people default to not being attractive if they're fat. There are lots of people who have pretty 'ugly features' but are pretty attractive in terms of their overall stuff. I'll give some examples (they are celebrities, but the issue is their appearance rather than their status - the f…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 02:27 PM
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Fucking a 50 year old is fine. Fucking your work colleague is a mistake. Fucking a girl you said you'd never fuck and date shows you need to work on your IronWill. Now your only option is damage control. Flirt with her, don't act weird and make her feel appreciative that some young stud has found her hot and banged the shit out of her. Make sure you keep enough distance that she doesn't try to get some kind of relationship going.
/r/askTRP20/11/15 01:46 PM
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Keep doing your degree. Work on everything, register the company and start going. Do it in your spare time to start with and then as it starts gaining momentum you can begin to dedicate more of your time to it. This is essentially how i've managed to do it myself though mine focuses more on software and games. Though as it's in the early stages I'm pretty liberal in what kind of stuff I dive into. With a 'hard' product then you need to make sure you do that well and properly. 1) Set aside a budg…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 01:33 PM
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It's a good point well made. When I say 'monk-mode' i don't necessarily mean that I don't approach girls (Though, i've pussied out of a couple - but otherwise been approaching okay. Just not indiscriminately) I just mean that my current life style isn't fantastic for meeting lots of new women, or even being around them. Work from home Go training Work from home Go training at night living in country side.
/r/askTRP20/11/15 12:40 PM
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I'm not sure of the veracity of 'NoFap' but i think porn really does damage your psyche. In my own mind i am so desperately picky on 'tits' and the shape/size of them that I really find that the majority of girls' tits don't really do anything for me and can even sometimes counter my arousal. Luckily they have the other parts too. Similarly hair on pussy, other than something that's 'very very neatly trimmed and small' really doesn't do it for me at all. I can probably power through that I reall…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 12:11 PM
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I agree with Joshsoowong. But there are some others. Lift, keep fit and do sports/martial arts Read TRP and don't be such a pussy/nice guy all the time Focus on making yourself into something you admire Anything you want to do is possible. Just fuckin do it. Never aim to be anything less then amazing. Mediocrity and average are bleeding wounds that make people terrible I had a problem when young that I would look up to people and admire them from afar. It often seemed to me that they existed in …
/r/askTRP20/11/15 12:06 PM
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Okay, i know exactly how you feel OP. I've noticed similar things about myself and I've recently been on monk mode. While i've not really had 'onitis' too much I did notice it a couple of times creeping 1) Keep up with the training and self-improvement. The reward to effort ratio is phenomenal 2) She's getting banged she has a GF. Make some suggestions as some of the other guys said that you like her (at least make her pretty sure you're into her) then go plough a bunch of other girls. There's n…
/r/askTRP20/11/15 10:28 AM
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you're talking about the OP I assume?
/r/askTRP19/11/15 08:13 PM
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I don't want to de-rail the question. But I'd quite like to get some insight into your psychology. Why do you wear heel lifts? It's really quite weird for me. I've never even noticed height as an issue at all until i started reading TRP and Seddit. Cock size, sure; fatness yep; hair/clothes/face always... but height just doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm 5'11" so nothing special in terms of height - but never once in my life has it ever been an issue. Granted before a 1.5 years ago i'd bee…
/r/askTRP19/11/15 07:27 PM
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Yea, I mean if you can get back on some warranty then do that. But I don't think this is your friend's fault. Even if he was riding the board - that's kind of what happens with wear and tear.
/r/askTRP19/11/15 04:15 PM
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Well, if it was an LTR kinda situation I'd agree totally. There was never any notion of commitment or dating in fact. The original interest was just about hanging out and putting her ass to use. As a result of that I wasn't too bothered if she was riding the CC or getting around. The bit that really bothered me was the AWOL, then the come back with the change of attitude. "Some other guy fucked me and dumped me... so now you have to suffer and take me out for dinner and wine/dine/date me before …
/r/askTRP19/11/15 04:05 PM
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You're right. Tinder is a bit shit from my experience. There are girls but coupled with eveyrthing i've read and my own conclusions it's all about pretty average chicks getting lots of validation. I don't do too well but i've not managed to get all my shit together yet. I usually do much better going out at night when i'm in the mood to just have a good time. If i go out with any kind of desire to pull or get laid then it usually goes badly. Sometimes i'm on form but usually it requires a good s…
/r/askTRP19/11/15 03:38 PM
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Yea you may be right to a degree. I was definitely clear about my intentions but maybe a bit too much 'text chatting' and banal bullshit happened. It happened actually with another girl, kinda flaked out and then got back in touch saying "i mugged her off" i.e went AWOL and ignored her. Then she flaked again. I suppose actually it is all my fault, some of TRP/Seddit game i seemed to have pulled off reasonably, other parts that I haven't internalised properly might have cut my legs from under me.…
/r/askTRP19/11/15 02:46 PM
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Well, there could be a couple of things. I'm a relative newbie in the whole arena of TRP so i defer to wiser folk but: Perhaps they do check you out and you're just not noticing They might have shit going on in their life and just not notice. You might not stand out as much as you think you do, everyone has their own mind racing a million miles per minute and things going on in their life. If in the mall, especially, maybe they're thinking about how to get their boyfriend to buy them shoes. It d…
/r/askTRP19/11/15 12:40 PM
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Yea, I think it's just good to make sure that my way of thinking was right. Everything said here is kind of truth ithe confusion on my part was really whether to play along so i can bang her. I don't really have any interest in dating her or LTRing her, she's got a kid and is probably at the wall. I guess it's back to making sure SMV increases - it's a damaging ego blow to think in those terms "He was better and you're the bitch" but i guess it works both ways - swings and roundabouts they say. …
/r/askTRP19/11/15 12:14 PM
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Though upon reflection, i take your point.... You do seem to be suggesting to just fuck her off. best to say something "i'm not into that" or just leave radio silence.... even the question here seems kinda ridiculous - let her hamster.
/r/askTRP19/11/15 11:53 AM
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well that's kind of the whole consideration that's in my mind. She basically was all up for getting ploughed then some other dude rocks in, smashes her to pieces, dumps her and she then flakes on me before realising she 'misses me' and then says "I'm not going to just fuck anymore i want to be dated etc etc." I guess the question is: Do i just 'go on a date or two' with the intention of just plating her and using her, ignoring the fact that I was obviously 'seconded' and am being set up to be a …
/r/askTRP19/11/15 11:39 AM
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