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Pulling in clubs

Me9333 · 2016-01-07T20:04:54+00:00

I have been going to clubs for about 3-4 years now, with every little to no luck with pulling girls. I am just very curious on how guys managed to pull (like...

Me9333

January 7, 2016

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Title	Pulling in clubs
Author	Me9333
Upvotes	0
Comments	21
Date	January 7, 2016 8:04 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3zx7z9/pulling_in_clubs/
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[–]JakalDX 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]CrushHazard 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

There you go again exaggerating for effect. "Creepy" is an extremely negative social perception. I'm just talking about old-fashioned stranger danger -- something ingrained deep in our primitive brain. If you don't believe in that concept, then you're living in denial, sorry to say.

That said, a woman can definitely think you are creepy even if you don't act creepy around them. Some women think that all guys who hang out in clubs (with or without a crew) are creepy. Nothing you can do about that.

Again, social proof is not needed to maximise results....

Um, yes it is. If you want to maximize your results with women, social proof is a necessary concept. Even befriending a random guy at a club will help you get better numbers than just going at it alone.

Sounds to me like you are more interested in what you want to believe than what is true. Social proof is a foundational concept. You can deny its effectiveness if you want, but why make things hard on yourself?

[–]J_Dilla_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

[–]CrushHazard 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry dude, but your ability to reason is lacking. "People can get results without social proof therefore social proof does not maximize results" simply is not a logical statement.

Social proof is a concept that permeates our lives to such a great degree that it is practically axiomatic. When you apply for a job or an apartment you are asked for previous employers/landlords and personal references. When you tell someone where you went to school or where you work and they ask you, "oh, do you know ______?", that is social proof in action. Social proof doesn't just work with humans, it works with primates and probably some other mammals as well (if cat A sees you scratching cat B and cat B is purring, cat A is going to come over and want you to scratch it too).

So again, social proof is necessary if you want to maximize results, but you don't seem interested in maximizing results. You seem more interested in arguing, but whatever, I guess. Some people like to make things hard on themselves.

[–]J_Dilla_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Why are you trying to quote something I didn't say? That's rather odd...

What happens in society does not apply to clubs though. The rules of society do not apply to clubs, hence why such sexual shit happens in clubs that is frowned upon outside the club...it's a jungle within a concrete jungle. The rules of business are different to the rules in seduction and vice versa. I really cannot believe you're comparing getting a house from a landlord to pulling women...really now really?

Again it's not, 9/10 a guy will approach a girl on his own with no friends around him.

You saying it's necessary to maximise results means you believe without it, you will not have adequate success, right?....this is frankly bullshit...I'll repeat again, 9/10 a guy will approach a girl on his own with no friends around him.

I also would like to know what you classify as results too...

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Lol, buddy you tried to quote something I did not say with speech marks...don't be acting all high and mighty now.

Entourage game is supposed to create staggering social proof...and it's been found out to be a bullshit concept...hence why Adam Lyons went from hero to zero so instantly. It was flawed just like the rest of his persona.

I am not in the PUA cult at all. Anyone who knows me in the community knows I refuse to accept anything from "PUAs"...in fact I despise them. Any "people" I recommend are part of the natural movement...and none of those guys even consider themselves. A guy I really respect and got to know a while back was Rob Judge and he never considered himself a PUA even though his results would imply he was one of the world's best. He said he is a guy, that loves women. I completely tie into that mentality.

But again, keep throwing the insults around...shows how masculine and "alpha" you are mate.

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[–]J_Dilla_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Another way of looking at it is comparing it to money...money can help you in all aspects of life...as can social proof...I never denied it doesn't help...but from post 1 you said and I quote

"The first rule is simply to roll with a crew, preferably one that includes females, for social proof."

Money can help you get chicks, but it can also inhibit you from other chicks...gold diggers...dishonest interactions etc...in the same way social proof can deter you. You seem to think that if you don't have social proof you cannot pull/get results which is denying you endless opportunities to meet women...you're using social proof as a crutch almost...what happens when there is nobody around to 'hold your hand' almost? Does that mean you cannot get results? You seem to think that....which is completely wrong.

That's my point.

As 60 Years Of Challenge said best "fuck social, being seductive gets you laid"

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