Setting Relationship Frame + Screenshots of getting around "I'm not coming over" objection

𝗠𝘆 𝗡𝗲𝘄 '𝗪𝗶𝗳𝗲'! —
𝗦𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽 (𝗪𝗶𝗳𝗲) 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗲 + 𝗦𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘁 𝗘𝘅𝗮𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 “𝗜’𝗺 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿” 𝗼𝗯𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻

[ ALL OF THE TEXT SCREENSHOTS STARTING FROM TINDER HERE: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/17q3SjHXrS5W-FPeC5oGghXKR62nQ-pVN

There's been questions about me calling certain women my ‘wife’ (Indo Wife, Vegas Wife, Hungary Wife, etc..) - This is something I really started because of Ciel HK and Markus Wolf Wolf over a year ago.

Ciel and Markus would have a oneitis or two (or more lol) in every city we’d travel to - In Ciel's case I thought it was a bit too... much. Ciel made a post about this in his Chen City group a while back (https://www.facebook.com/groups/chencity/permalink/345465422678029/)

I'd go from new chick to new chick. If I added them to a rotation it was mostly emotionless and strictly a sexual relationship. But Markus and Ciel would call me a psycho and say I couldn't love 🤣 so I had the idea to not even relationship frame girls very early on, but wife frame them. Not all! Just one special girl per country.

Here are some guidelines or rules I've set:

1. Only 1 wife per country (this could change to per city)

   1. The wives know about each other very well
      
   2. The wives know about my work, my laycount, etc...
      
   3. Wives get special privileges (dinner, movies, more attention, etc)
      
   4. Wife isn’t a wife if she doesn’t do wife duties (I.e. cooking & cleaning)
      
   5. Wife must be totally bought into wife frame
      
   6. Wife knows about other non-wife women I sleep with (they always check to see if non-wives get wife privileges which is considered cheating - this was actually created within the wife frame by every single wife naturally funnily enough)
      
   7. All wives are treated equally - no wife is favored or given special attention and treatment
      
   8. Markus Wolf can't gangb*ng my wives

   What’s interesting is once the wife frame has been established, the wives accept the other wives and don’t consider me with other wives as “cheating”. They may bad mouth one night stand girls and openly try to deter them from my life (this is to minimize the amount of wives I have). They may use power moves or compete with other wives, but in more subtle ways. In person they'll talk positively about them (usually inquire about how they're doing) or spit some subtle game by framing other wives as jealous or needy. I've noticed my wives' game has improved drastically over the months!

We all know that even in relationships and marriages we still have to have game. Frame battles and tests never stop even years into marriages and relationships. I've let my guard down on purpose with my wives and other women. Weakening my own frames just a bit to see what happens. It's unbelievable how quickly they'll pounce on your vulnerabilities! How natural it is. How quickly the frames can be demolished and or flipped in their favor. You can never rest! You must always be on top of your game at every period and level!

Why am I doing this? Besides Ciel and Markus claiming that I’m incapable of having these relationships... It has taught me soooo much more about women and game. I knew a lot as it was. Also traveling the world non-stop (& living in Vegas for a year) and having mostly ONS so often and for so long, there's a side of game that is being neglected. It's actually the most difficult part of game and one where most guys have no clue how to handle it. And nearly every coach I know is absolutely clueless and horrendous in this area. That is everything after you sleep with the girl. And after you've entered a relationship. Or even on framing the precise nature of the relationship that you want and maintaining it long term where all parties are happy. I’ve helped many known coaches in this area! It’s baffling how they can pull and close women regularly but their retention rate is so poor! And when they do, they revert back to being weak chodes in the relationship, committing fully to an exclusive relationship as their game rite and the respect toward them as men is slowly chipped away by their partner.

Why do my wives accept these frames and relationships despite never encountering anything close to this before? They're happy. They don't want to lose me and have to go back to their typical relationships. Back to men with no boundaries. Men that truly don’t understand women. What they need, what they feel.

Which to me says a lot about how terrible men are with women and in relationships when they'd rather be one of the wives. When you TRULY understand women. When you understand them personally. You know how to lead a woman and give her the emotions she requires. When you know how to set proper boundaries. When you have a strong and unbreakable frame. When you can give her amazing sex and 10 to 15 oral orgasms. They feel alone with other guys. The comparison is not even close! This is a very common pattern I've noticed with women I've been with in the last few years.

We really should have more content around relationships and "connection" since I know for a fact most coaches you guys may be following are absolutely weak and clueless in this area. It's actually rather pathetic. The next level, after the pull, after sex is where Markus Wolf and I really excel in. Retention. Relationships. “Connection”. This is something we neglect too often since most guys (whether they want to admit it or not) don't want to only pull a new girl a night, but eventually have a healthy relationship with a girl (or girls) where he doesn't get taken advantage of and walked all over. Cheated on with Alexander Lindberg or Max Kojo Wa. Where he can maintain his skills with women. This topic we want to put a bit more emphasis on in UMP.

So any topic requests for content, let us know!

But I’ll leave you all with a little thought exercise. Think back at all your failed relationships (and it doesn’t need to be a serious exclusive one either). Analyze her behavior, actions, etc when you “got” her at the beginning versus toward the end. It could be a gradual process or abrupt change. Now compare with your actions and behavior along the same timeline. What I’ve learned over the years after so many & different types of relationships with women is that it’s all my fault. Or should I say it was a crucial mindset shift for myself that changed EVERYTHING - from blaming women (or thinking I’ve not found the right one) to taking full responsibility. And I don’t mean hating yourself. Taking full responsibility without being hard on yourself. Without self pity. Be the man. Be their leader. Be emotionally stronger. If you look back now and analyze it without ego, you can improve your game drastically almost immediately!

And finally:

𝐎𝐍𝐄 𝐓𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐈𝐂 𝐓𝐎 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐀𝐑𝐎𝐔𝐍𝐃 "𝐈'𝐌 𝐍𝐎𝐓 𝐂𝐎𝐌𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐎𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐓𝐎 𝐘𝐎𝐔𝐑 𝐏𝐋𝐀𝐂𝐄" 𝐎𝐁𝐉𝐄𝐂𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍:

Here's a great example of one way to get around the objection. It's not something I always use, but if I have good, consistent investment and I've gotten them to qualify and I've DHV'd enough, it can be rather effective.

I essentially stop persisting to get her to come over after a coThen go all in. I'll flip it to make it seem like I've accepted a non-sexual/romantic/relationship frame and gone full in to the friendzone frame. Which most girls do not want, especially if you've met on Tinder and you've DHV'd yourself (especially sexually DHV'd yourself)...

This girl didn't squirm out of it like most women have when I've done this. But it was enough for me to now flip it back to a romantic frame/date. What's good is that she sees that I am willing to meet in public under romantic and non-romantic platonic frames. Which will help when I eventually flake on her.
She's ready to meet and committed when I do flake. And when I flake I don't show that it was because I just want her to come over and have sex. It was because I am just not feeling going out today. I also show that I am capable of flaking and not desperately chasing for every meet with a woman from online. This also puts thoughts in some women that there are other women that will entertain me at my place.

You'll see in the screenshots that I paint a picture of how much fun and amazing it will be to be at my place (by myself). Now I've done this in a sexual way (10 to 15), but I feel it won't be so effective here. Sex is on no matter what (despite eventually disqualifying it). She bites on it and baits me into inviting her.

I tell her I would invite her but she thinks I'm a weirdo! That's when she tells me her real concerns. She's never came over to a guys place! She doesn't know how to behave! I immediately get over them without being too persistent or needy. When girls come over to your place at night but want commitment there's no sex, what they really are expressing is that they are very worried that once they are there, that they cannot say no. They want sex, but want the ability to say no. And naturally they should have that ability (duh) but some guys are very uncaliberated or just straight up creepy and put a lot of pressure on the girl... so it's a legit worry.

I push the booty massage angle a few times knowing she'll reject it. She doesn't need to accept or agree. I just need to seed it just in case I need to whip out the massage oils and use it to escalate. She won't be shocked or thrown off because I mentioned it several times before she came over. In the end I didn't need the booty massage routine. She was such a tiny sub that loved being dominated and tossed around.

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