Let's have a discussion on venue selection for targeting girls. Personally, I can do very well with women if I'm able to get their attention and talk with them. Like for instance on a date.

But the issue of getting the date is the true challenge. I don't know if others have this issue, but I really don't like clubs and many bars because it's just too chaotic. It's too loud to hear what people are saying, my voice doesn't carry well, and I can barely concentrate amongst all the chaos.

I'm looking for venue ideas to pickup. I think ideally for a me a more relaxed and quieter place is what I'm looking for. Perhaps a lounge or neighbood bar makes more sense.