What’s the difference between having good game and being manipulative?

screamifyouredriving · 2020-04-09T08:34:20+00:00

Game is just a tool. You're comparing apples to shoelaces. Being manipulative is about deceiving people about facts. Game is essentially a means or a style of communication. Are you lying? Then your game is a lie too. Garbage in garbage out. It's not a gray area. You're overthinking.

relentless_pma · 2020-04-09T08:09:19+00:00

Its about honesty. Remain honest in your game. I am still new in this and others here might be able to explain this better. But if you remain honest about yourself and your intentions you will not be so manipulative. Being manipulative normally means tricking her, so in that case you are not being honest to her.

The book models bij Mark Manson is being praised a lot in this subsection. It talks about being honest to girls. I have just read it and will read it again. So you can check that out.

WIA20XX · 2020-04-09T13:51:17+00:00

Define manipulative

smoothmax · 2020-04-09T17:20:45+00:00

You can't make women do something they don't want to do. They have strong self-protective instincts, and most of them also have cockblocking friends who help protect them from losers and liars.

"Game" isn't about manipulation, it's about uncovering your attractive, instinctive self by losing bad habits ... such as bad mental attitudes (guilt, insecurity), bad grooming, bad conversational habits, lack of respect for women, and so on.

Shit tests are a way of cutting through a guy's superficial "game" (pickup lines and fake alpha behavior), poking him somewhere vulnerable then weighing his response. Is he emotionally strong, or is he a weakling who gets angry or tongue tied when he has to go off-script?

Title	What’s the difference between having good game and being manipulative?
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Date	April 9, 2020 7:18 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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