Going against the grain a bit here. Seddit seems to be all about "inner game" and this more modern approach to pickup: being confident, assuming attraction, all that shit. I started reading pickup material and approaching over a year ago, and mostly followed seddit advice. At first, I agreed with what people said about outer game vs. inner game; if you just follow a bunch of lines and routines, you're not really improving yourself, you're just learning a bunch of lines. Now, I've come to realize that I need more direction than just "act confident, act alpha, be outcome independant" and all that vague bullshit.

I've studied basically pure inner game, and it's gotten moderate results. Got laid a couple times, had a fwb, both of these things wouldn't have happened if I never found seddit. BUT, that being said, I'm not happy with the results. It's been a year of mostly trial and error for me, and I've decided inner game isn't enough. I don't really have any friends who are "naturals" that I can study and observe, so I look to alternatives.

Does anyone know where you can find material like the stuff they talk about in The Game? Old school pua shit. Routines, lines, DHV then DLV, IOI's, IOD's and all that shit. I think it would be really interesting to look through.

Thanks brothers!