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It's fine. Until you are exclusive, you can do wahtever you want.
/r/seduction08/01/16 08:10 PM
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a number is nice, but a number isn't closing man. The real closing that people should be doing more of is f-closing.
/r/seduction08/01/16 06:49 PM
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https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/leave-your-virtual-world
/r/seduction08/01/16 01:07 PM
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No your ultimatum was a bad idea when you did it initially. You can't just pull some shit like that out of the blue without any warning signs or any indication to her that she was doing anything that annoyed you and expect a good response.
/r/seduction08/01/16 12:05 AM
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except that this place is a total burb.
/r/seduction07/01/16 07:35 PM
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went there for the first time somewhat recently, had a blast, got picked up by a hired gun with no effort, great town!
/r/seduction07/01/16 07:35 PM
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miami is good, austin eh it's small, new york is great, but i think LA scene is great also. I like the weho scene, its not all gay bars, even not all on santa monica, and girls are way friendlier than in NY to random approaches. at least to me, which is ironic because i look nothing like the stereotypical LA guy
/r/seduction07/01/16 06:49 PM
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I've spent way more time in NYC but a decent amount of time in LA also. An hour drive kills logistics. In NYC logistics are second to none (walk to dates 2 minutes away from a sex location etc.) Changes the game from that point of view. In terms of number of people who are hot.. who knows.. both have more than enough.
/r/seduction07/01/16 06:15 PM
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ive had success in weho at the spots on sunset.. bar marmont, the den, etc. In Santa Monica, how about Bodega? That place is literally 80% girls.
/r/seduction07/01/16 06:13 PM
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well manhattan/nyc is much more densly populated than socal, as are some cities in asia. The most hot women are probably in nyc vs any city in the US because there are so many more women.
/r/seduction07/01/16 06:01 PM
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Everyone who isn't like your weird special unique snow flake self is boring? Could be you are the problem. Respect other peoples interests, and even if you aren't interested, at least recognize when someone is interested in a topic, contribute a little, and at least pretend to give a shit for starters. I had a similar problem and it plagued my entire childhood and high school social life. Then I learned that I was the fucking problem if I couldn't learn to appreciate other peoples humor and inte…
/r/seduction07/01/16 04:15 PM
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I play instruments.. so .. that... I rarely have music playing during the act, mostly because well, it doesn't really matter.
/r/seduction07/01/16 04:10 PM
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You don't fear success my friend, you fear failure.
/r/seduction07/01/16 03:45 PM
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sounds like its only horrible if you don't have connections or can't spare a little money to get in the door. Don't knock an entire scene because you can't afford to play.
/r/seduction07/01/16 03:21 PM
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I would second the SoCal comments here, in terms of percentage of girls that are hot.
/r/seduction07/01/16 03:21 PM
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No. You should not behave differently if you want a girlfriend. If you want a girlfriend you should still try to seduce as fast as possible. Women get attached after sex. Always go for sex as soon as possible.
/r/seduction07/01/16 01:02 PM
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i actually agree with this.
/r/seduction06/01/16 08:43 PM
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Only once you have established very significant attraction in my opinion. Manson's vulnerability stuff is why I do not recommend his book. Manson is tall and good looking and successful, so for him that game works. Vulnerability, if done wrong, is EXTREMELY unattractive. It is better to err on being non-needy and not getting into this stuff.
/r/seduction06/01/16 08:42 PM
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Honestly, it's better to err on the side of not appearing vulnerable. If you aren't sure, don't do it.
/r/seduction06/01/16 07:51 PM
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Yes, it means friend vibe. Get her out on her own.
/r/seduction06/01/16 07:50 PM
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Yes, most romantic comedies are horribly wrong. TVJ wrote an article about this: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/love-actually-doesnt-work-like-this-at-all-or-on-your-oneitis
/r/seduction06/01/16 05:48 PM
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there are more negatives than that.. its pretty platonic, it's usually during the day which is not as conducive to escalation, dim/dark lighting is more sexual and makes people look better, and background music (like out at a bar or whatever) also helps. Alcohol usually doesn't hurt either. Night time dates, somewhere where there is some music (at least ambient music) is the way to go.
/r/seduction06/01/16 04:08 PM
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Yet another reason why grabbing coffee during the day is a lame date.
/r/seduction06/01/16 03:28 PM
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agreed.
/r/seduction05/01/16 11:58 PM
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nah mostly a stream of consciousness with some edits. It bothers me when people in the seduction community simply can't understand that seduction isn't just about getting women by being a cheap ass and not spending any money. There are plenty of people out there for whom $2500 every once in a while simply doesn't matter. Why should they roam around the club with no home base among other inconveniences when they can just spend some money (which to them isn't much) to have a home base where one ca…
/r/seduction05/01/16 10:38 PM
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The fact that you cannot even see the massive logistical benefits of a table that are unrelated to any display of wealth demonstrate how little you know what you're talking about.
/r/seduction05/01/16 10:34 PM
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A number doesn't mean much, even if you think things went well. Many women flake on numbers, it's normal.
/r/seduction05/01/16 08:29 PM
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Gaming on the main floor in Hakkasan is impossible, but Hakkasan has SOOO many side rooms and areas to pull girls to that you can talk to.
/r/seduction05/01/16 08:23 PM
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you are a jealous idiot. I've gotten plenty of women in various ways, and I know way more about game and seduction than you. Enough to know that money and power are attractive. It works. And the OP asked about what the MOST successful method was. He didn't ask for what the cheapest method is, or what the best bang for buck method was, he asked what the MOST successful is. Plus, if you aren't a fucking moron, you can be at tables where you don't have to spend a dime and get all the social proof a…
/r/seduction05/01/16 08:21 PM
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it's social proof and power. Haters hate on this because they can't afford it, but it works.
/r/seduction05/01/16 08:02 PM
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After a few dates you should have already had sex with her and the balance of power will have shifted in your favor through that, not through this idiotic game.
/r/seduction05/01/16 06:23 PM
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I know what success is, and I only count sex as success buddy. Attractive enough is key, and other factors can influence the definition of "enough", often significantly.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 05:48 PM
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I agree with this post. Texting should be used for logistics only. I preach this regularly. I do not agree that online dating is all about visual attraction. It is mostly for guys, but girls do ascribe value to other features, in particular those that demonstrate power and intelligence. This is why some men (myself included) are much more successful on traditional dating sites or even apps that allow you to put more than just your picture than on something like Tinder.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 05:30 PM
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This is the right move. Always cancel in these situations.
/r/seduction05/01/16 05:17 PM
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learn an instrument? The guitar is an easy one.
/r/seduction05/01/16 04:15 PM
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You hit the nail on the head man .. bottle service at clubs is the easiest. I don't live in vegas but go a lot. I have had by far the most success this way. Some success just at the club without a table, and a little bit of success just cruising the casinos, but models + bottles = by far the best way.
/r/seduction05/01/16 03:14 PM
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can't move to next girl because they are none. that is your problem right there, it's not this girl. Your oneitis is just a symptom of something greater: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/when-oneitis-is-just-a-symptom
/r/seduction04/01/16 09:45 PM
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it happens. You also were way too eager texting her right away asking for a date.
/r/seduction04/01/16 08:08 PM
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The most important step is to choose a girl to focus on. If you don't you'll eventually miss out on all of them.
/r/seduction04/01/16 07:42 PM
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The key here is really Rule #1. By far.
/r/seduction04/01/16 06:42 PM
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Probably because you embarrass them piss poor target selection like hitting on every hired gun/receptionist etc. like a creep. Learn to run balanced game.
/r/seduction04/01/16 06:03 PM
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Eh, most likely your buddy is just very attractive. Not caring is a recipe for disaster normally. It is a very misunderstood point in seduction and stems from advice on how to approach women taken out of context and applied to every part of seduction. I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/you-cant-succeed-if-you-dont-care
/r/seduction04/01/16 02:14 PM
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Celebrity couple data is pretty much irrelevant for anything. I wouldn't draw conclusions other than that being rich and famous is attractive to women, even to celeb women.
/r/seduction04/01/16 01:32 AM
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So are you approaching better now?
/r/seduction03/01/16 11:05 PM
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escalate. Try to get her to to a sex location. See if she wants to leave the venue with you etc.
/r/seduction03/01/16 06:40 PM
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Read this: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/what-to-do-and-not-to-do-when-shes-gone-cold But note that the odds are very low even if you do everything right. Better to move on or at least game other women as well.
/r/seduction03/01/16 06:35 PM
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plenty of tall girls out there dying for a guy like you, short girls too. 6'8" is maybe statistically a little bit too tall but it's way better than being short.
/r/seduction01/01/16 08:53 PM
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Two problems here. One is she is probably not into you given no kiss on even a 3rd date and rejection of k-close on the 2nd date. The other is that you think you want the ball in her court.. you almost never want the ball in her court: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/keep-the-ball-in-your-court You put the ball in her court when you said: "let me know when you're free next month" and that screwed all this contact up for you. Instead, next time follow up with something like: "Perfect, we'l…
/r/seduction01/01/16 08:52 PM
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haha you are still really young man. A lot of girls in your age range do like to go out to the clubs and stuff. I mean, I would compromise a bit. Take em out dancing or whatever from time to time but also do some stuff you prefer to do. Part of dating is compromise.
/r/seduction31/12/15 04:40 PM
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Are you dating 18 year olds?
/r/seduction31/12/15 04:35 PM
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Repulsive? How the fuck you get repulsive from what I said is beyond me. I said that 'looks game' where you sit back and do nothing and wait for girls to come to you is not that effective if you are 5'6". It's not that effective game PERIOD, but for some guys who are tall and very noticeable 9s and 10s it works.
/r/seduction31/12/15 04:32 PM
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He can potentially.. but stand in the corner brooding and have girls just go up to you? Highly unlikely, mostly due to height.
/r/seduction31/12/15 02:14 PM
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oh and this is a date he made her drive 45 minutes to.....
/r/seduction31/12/15 04:54 AM
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yea if you are a 5'6" asian I think being more outgoing is going to be way better game for you than trying to be the guy who hangs out in the shadows getting a bunch of girls. That's reserved mostly for really good looking guys, and even then, if they were more outgoing they would get laid even more.
/r/seduction30/12/15 11:55 PM
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he was an hour late to a date and then complained that the girl was distant on the date.
/r/seduction30/12/15 11:53 PM
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this.
/r/seduction30/12/15 08:13 PM
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You were an hour late to a date? You deserve to lose this girl. Are you fucking kidding me? Yes, you did fuck up, big time. Apologize for being a fucking asshole and move on.
/r/seduction30/12/15 08:12 PM
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There is being congruent and then there is being attractive. Low energy introverts are NOT ATTRACTIVE. Learn to demonstrate more energy would be a start. If you are super good looking like you say you would have zero issues getting as many girls as you can handle if you had some energy and just went up and talked to them.
/r/seduction30/12/15 08:11 PM
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In general, I think you should focus on pull. Push is more during initial contact to sneak in "under the radar", to disqualify yourself so she puts her guard down, but if you are on a date, you want to pull. I usually only push on a date if I sense some disinterest. I just "don't pull as hard" to balance not appearing needy.
/r/seduction30/12/15 07:34 PM
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we wouldn't do it if it didn't work ....
/r/seduction30/12/15 06:02 PM
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You are only 19... being a virgin at that age isn't that big a deal.
/r/seduction30/12/15 03:33 PM
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Here's a small excerpt from my approaching ebook on gym openers.. sorry about the formatting i'm too lazy to format it i just copy pasted a part of the Gym section from the PDF. Approaching Women At The Gym Let’s face it, if you go to the gym, you’ve thought about approaching women there. You may have even thought about taking a Zumba class just to get close to the hot girls at the gym! Unfortunately, despite the amount of women at the gym, actually approaching them (successfully) is quite diffi…
/r/seduction30/12/15 03:26 PM
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I use the tried and true: "Can I use the bathroom before I head out?" method. 60% of the time it works every time.
/r/seduction29/12/15 08:39 PM
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Sounds to me like you are being way too picky from the tone of your post to be honest. Focus on getting the girl not winning a battle of shit tests.
/r/seduction29/12/15 08:38 PM
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Getting to the point is good, but sometimes an indirect approach works best; and using the word beautiful is a mistake more often than not. It has a creepy old man connotation.
/r/seduction29/12/15 08:37 PM
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There's almost no downside. I have been told I was really touchy etc. so many times on dates and it has almost never interfered (in general people like it). Just say, if they call you out on it: "Yeah I know haha, always been that way" or something of the sort.
/r/seduction29/12/15 05:48 PM
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No such thing as a huuuge city in canada haha.. nah in all seriousness, that's all i could think of. Nothing wrong with your appearance from that picture and you're tall which helps a lot.
/r/seduction29/12/15 05:21 PM
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Nothing wrong with your looks man, and you are 6'4" which is a HUGE positive. All I can think of is that you are gaming white girls in a racist area?
/r/seduction29/12/15 05:09 PM
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The best advice I have here is not to ask, not to tell, and not to bother to find out. There is almost no benefit to knowing about her past relationship history.
/r/seduction29/12/15 04:13 PM
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My real name is very odd. I am also not foreign looking (I'm white) and have no accent. In my experience, while it sometimes creates easy conversation (talking about my name), if I wasn't so used to using my real name, going by an americanized name or easy name is way better. So yea, I'm going against the grain here and saying go with jason.
/r/seduction29/12/15 03:19 PM
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Direct is ok, but beautiful is a very risky word I would generally not advocate using. It can come off as creepy with some women who would have responded to a more casual direct approach.
/r/seduction29/12/15 03:17 PM
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Lose body fat.
/r/seduction28/12/15 11:33 PM
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You'll get garbage/misleading and potentially damaging answers.
/r/seduction28/12/15 11:33 PM
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I know three times makes a pattern and I want to change the >pattern. No, 3 times does not make a pattern in dating. Try to escalate more or improve your overall attractiveness. Those are the two most common reasons for rejection, I have found.
/r/seduction28/12/15 08:05 PM
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cause it doesn't work. Asking is awkward and women's experience is that it leads to awkwardness or combative attitude from many men. If they weren't into you it's usually that they weren't physically attracted to you, weren't mentally attracted to you, you didn't escalate enough, or class/cultural barriers make dating you not feasible for them. There is almost never another reason.
/r/seduction28/12/15 08:03 PM
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you should talk to some more girls who have been open/honest with guys and see how badly it backfired and how awkward it made them feel. That's why people ghost.
/r/seduction24/12/15 01:58 PM
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I dislike this. Chatting up someone on the plane is super easy: most people on the plane are bored as shit. And you have plenty of opportunities to incidentally open the conversation. You don't need games and you DEFINITELY do not want to creep someone out who is stuck next to you by blatantly hitting on her right off the bat with comments on her looks.
/r/seduction23/12/15 09:21 PM
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I'm not sure beating yourself up matters as much as doing something about it. Learning from failure involves a lot more than just not beating yourself up: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-learn-from-failure
/r/seduction23/12/15 08:08 PM
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https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/overcoming-advanced-oneitis
/r/seduction23/12/15 06:04 PM
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Tangible changes probably 3 months when I started to work on it. Complete overhaul? Years.
/r/seduction23/12/15 06:02 PM
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This isn't how girls work. You want to know why? Because when they are honest with guys the guy starts bitching, challenging them, complaining, trying to "fix" whatever issue, get offended, and so on.
/r/seduction23/12/15 06:02 PM
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you got used .. it happens, be proud ;)
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:53 PM
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Do you have any friends who are into just going out for a drink or willing to even talk to girls? That's all you need really, or you can go out yourself.
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:37 PM
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Give it more time .. a few weeks after coming off as a needy insecure loser is not enough time.
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:36 PM
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In more detail, I wrote an entire article about this type of thing, copy pasted for your reading pleasure. I see this question a lot: "Hey Josh, I’m an ugly, fat pathetic socially awkward loser. How can a fat pathetic socially awkward loser like me get girls?" The answer to this question is obvious: "Stop being an ugly, fat pathetic socially awkward loser!" Most men accept this answer and recognize that in order to achieve their potential they will have to change more than their interactions wit…
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:29 PM
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People win the lottery sometimes but winning the lottery is a terrible strategy to get rich. Focus on what works, not flukes.
/r/seduction23/12/15 03:28 PM
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This is a good post and consistent with what most guys who are really successful with women do. I would take it even a step further and don't even bother approaching in certain situations where the odds of success are clearly low. This is good 'target selection' and it is how some of the best naturals I know act "in the field". Actually, I noticed that most naturals do not just go up to every girl, and rely almost exclusively on strong target selection. They seek out eye contact, bored girls, lo…
/r/seduction22/12/15 07:49 PM
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I would say differently but with a very important caveat: You should be gaming girls differently based on who they are and what will attract them ... NOT based on how much you like them.
/r/seduction22/12/15 02:00 AM
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So you are willing to suffer to teach this girl a lesson? Seems idiotic. Why not do what makes you happy? And, if you really want to be an asshole, sleeping with her then not calling her again is much worse than not sleeping with her. Just fyi.
/r/seduction22/12/15 01:59 AM
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Being an asshole isn't the point: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/shes-not-actually-attracted-to-assholes
/r/seduction21/12/15 07:43 PM
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I would not go witty about this, it shows insecurity to bring up the delay, just ignore it and proceed, but don't get your hopes up given she waited 1 month to contact you back.
/r/seduction21/12/15 05:47 PM
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for the love of god do not do this.
/r/seduction21/12/15 05:46 PM
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I doubt these preselection stories are going to add much value, and when you lie, there's a risk you get caught, you either take it or not. As for your proof, the answer is easy, just say you got a new phone and the pictures are on the old one.
/r/seduction21/12/15 03:51 PM
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For some part time job who cares.. but for a career type job I would advise against it. The main risk isn't if you break-up, it's if there is a jealous superior who can really fuck you over out of jealousy. I've seen it happen.
/r/seduction14/12/15 04:02 PM
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what a shocker, a pick up artist making money teaching pickup who sucks at pickup. Wow. And the sky is blue.
/r/seduction14/12/15 02:23 PM
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If you got straight up stood up, move on. Don't bother to text, don't bother to ask why. Move on. Any further interaction with this person is a waste of your time and a blow to your dignity.
/r/seduction14/12/15 12:05 AM
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It may be tough for you at this stage because you basically acted in a way that will make her unlikely to believe you can handle a FwB relationship, especially since she will link your behavior to her being with another guy in your presence.
/r/seduction13/12/15 11:18 PM
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She just isn't interested in meeting anymore and is just trying to fade away a bit on you?
/r/seduction13/12/15 10:56 PM
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Don't worry about falling flat on your face. The system I like to use is: speech - non-sexual, eyes - sexual, touch- sexual. I like to use eyes and kino to express sexual interest, while using my words to display other values and attributes. The details are described more fully here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-3-modes-of-communication-and-how-to-use-them
/r/seduction12/12/15 11:49 PM
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Move on. Getting girls with boyfriends (and especially those who bring up the boyfriend) is very difficult. If you insist on pursing anyways, the best strategies is to move sneakily and ignore mentions of her boyfriend as best you can. However, really, it's best to send your energy elsewhere. I've written full articles about this numerous times.
/r/seduction12/12/15 11:41 PM
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I write a lot about first dates on my site. I think someone else asked a similar question. Here are a few articles to get you started: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/search/first-date
/r/seduction11/12/15 06:50 PM
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I have features I like and features I don't but I generally do not have a type, nor do I think it is healthy or useful to have a type. Stop worrying about what your psych professor says and explore a bit. You'd be surprised. I wrote a whole article on this actually: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-having-a-type
/r/seduction11/12/15 06:25 PM
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I like this, and it's the right idea. You can also use some more benign variants like: "Well that's what the drinks are for"
/r/seduction11/12/15 02:14 AM
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https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-easy-ways-to-kino
/r/seduction10/12/15 09:50 PM
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Kung Fu Fighting? You trolling?
/r/seduction10/12/15 09:49 PM
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Sit in the middle for starters, or at the end with your girl all the way at the end so she can only talk to you directly and whisper in your ear etc.
/r/seduction10/12/15 09:49 PM
1

Well perhaps think about it this way: you may not NEED something, but certain things are nice to have. One thing I liked about being in a relationship was that there was always someone you can share things that happen to you (good and bad). Sure you can talk to friends and family, but knowing you always have that was a nice thing about being in a relationship; just as one example.
/r/seduction10/12/15 09:46 PM
1

Why is sex not a big deal for you? Are you sure these issues are not hand in hand with your views that women are just value sucking leeches good for nothing? This is a very toxic view but without knowing more it's hard to say where it came from, or more importantly, what can you do to fix it.
/r/seduction10/12/15 09:07 PM
1

short responses, delays between responses, and a lot of "gotta run, remind me when we meet up"
/r/seduction10/12/15 08:03 PM
3

Here is a case study of something I encountered: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/persistence-without-neediness The key is to be persistent without being needy.
/r/seduction10/12/15 03:48 PM
2

I have been told I'm a great kisser by most women I have kissed. My secret has been to adjust my kissing style to how the girl is kissing. It is one of the few areas where I recommend letting the woman take the lead. Oh, and others have mentioned, hands are good too.
/r/seduction10/12/15 01:51 PM
2

Most likely you acted too needy and started to annoy her before you made a move to actually ask her out and now she is over you. Use this as a learning experience. Don't even respond. See if she hits you up again in a week or two, if not shoot her a "hey stranger how are you?" And this time, if she responds, just ask her out already.
/r/seduction10/12/15 01:50 PM
1

Do you mean with your dog, or seducing girls who have dogs? My guess is it's the latter. The main benefit is it's a really easy opener as you walk by a dog to put your hand out and pet it and comment on how cute it is.
/r/seduction09/12/15 10:04 PM
19

this is terrible. Just tell her you can't make tonight and that something came up.
/r/seduction09/12/15 04:58 PM
1

YOu will note in the first article I talk about the rating system a little, how I don't like it, but how "perfect 10" is a convenient term for what I am talking about in there.
/r/seduction09/12/15 03:57 PM
1

You said: "hell even girls that i've already banged" That means you are doing something right. What did you do to get those girls?
/r/seduction08/12/15 09:12 PM
2

Good response. I'm frankly tired of people trying to pretend that getting 9s and 10s is the same as getting 6s and 7s. It's simply not (as I wrote in my response to this post). You've gotta play the odds as you mentioned. They will be lower when it comes to higher quality girls, so you just have to play more often, all while improving your value.
/r/seduction24/11/15 08:58 PM
6

I wrote about this a while ago: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-perfect-10s-the-differences The bottom line is, you are more or less right.
/r/seduction24/11/15 08:47 PM
1

It's normal from my experience. Just have to like her enough before that even after the drop off you still like her :)
/r/seduction16/11/15 07:32 PM
1

Don't act needy, like saying stuff about all wanting to date her suddenly after you had sex. Let it happen more organically. Play it cool.
/r/seduction09/11/15 07:18 PM
2

this. A good healthy dating life in the US (is this where you are from?) demands, for the most part, sexual compatibility and ideally some experience. Not to mention there are huge benefits to successful dating that come from having sex with your date/girlfriend/etc. Your goals are contradictory.
/r/seduction06/11/15 01:25 PM
1

I would not text/message too much, get them on a date quickly. 2-3 messages each online before you bring it to text and on text ask them out with the first message you send.
/r/seduction05/11/15 09:15 PM
1

no clue never been out much in the cities there but im sure charlotte is probably good?
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:50 PM
1

NYC, LA, Miami, Chicago, Philly, really any big city you are good.
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:42 PM
1

save the conversation for in person. Stop texting her until you meet.
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:39 PM
1

Don't pick a job based on meeting women. The best job to meet women is a good career that makes you money and gives you time to go out.
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:10 PM
1

I have generally got the best results by laughing at the end and saying something like "Oh come on you really think there's such a thing as palm reading??"
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:08 PM
13

move on.
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:07 PM
-10

My go to is usually: "Hey Stranger, How've you been" Note that in this situation you discuss, odds are she will not respond, but that is my go to text. I wrote a little more about these type of reconnects on my site: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-long-time-reconnect
/r/seduction03/11/15 03:53 PM
1

so what are you worried about? Enjoy the rest of college, and then enjoy the rest of life. As long as you aren't leaving school with no job or a shit job and moving to a shit suburb you are gonna have a blast.
/r/seduction03/11/15 01:37 PM
4

just ask. I would love if I had to put in no effort like this.
/r/seduction02/11/15 06:53 PM
1

once they are at the apartment it's easy. To get them there, just casually bring it up .. "I think we may go do some drinks at our place, it's just around the corner" or whatever. Usually: "Where do you live" comes up in conversation, and then you can just answer.
/r/seduction02/11/15 06:17 PM
5

You just have to practice. Some of these things are easy to practice, for example eye contact. Simply FORCE YOURSELF to make eye contact until it becomes natural. It will take time but it will work. I know because I couldn't make eye contact until I forced myself to learn. Conversation, now that is a bit tricky. It's too hard for us to tell you how to make conversation, but one tip is not being afraid to have an opinion and sharing it. Also, think about WHY. Saying WHY you think, do, or believe …
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:55 PM
1

Your attitude about it is pretty negative. It will get even better, potentially much better. It definitely did for me, and I had a blast in college. Live somewhere cool, ideally within walking distance to nightlife, and you can have a ridiculously awesome time outside of college with a pool of women that is probably hundreds of times as large as the college pool.
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:51 PM
1

It's hard to say exactly, but if you get close to her lips as you talk or as you dance and she keeps them in place just keep inching closer and eventually go for it. And from there keep escalating. That way you don't have to wonder, or you know when to eject. I've gone from a makeout to leaving the club with a girl in under 15 minutes, or other times its taken a couple hours, but you will never know until you keep escalating until you either get rejected, get "paused" or close.
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:49 PM
1

Yes it helps a lot. Not sure what the question is though?
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:45 PM
3

Most likely in this case, she is not interested. However, how are you arranging dates/logistics? Have you tried just proposing a date, time, and place, and then going from there? NOTE: ALL IN ONE TEXT. e.g. Great! How's XYZ at 8pm on Tuesday?
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:44 PM
1

This stuff rarely matters if they like you.
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:43 PM
1

eye contact, kino, gym, dress/grooming, posture, firm voice, etc.
/r/seduction02/09/15 07:04 PM
1

I agree with the comments that say never draw attention to your height. Simply ignore it. I'm not tall but have still had a lot of success with women who are taller than me. Not bringing up height at all has helped me. I wrote an article about dating taller women that you may find useful that has some more content: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/dating-taller-women
/r/seduction14/07/15 05:31 PM
1

ha. nah not the first date.
/r/seduction07/07/15 06:43 PM
1

eh, in field video is usually garbage/fake/etc. I wouldn't use in field video as a learning tool of any kind, generally speaking.
/r/seduction30/06/15 07:34 PM
2

just ignore her dude who cares.
/r/seduction29/06/15 07:29 PM
1

I don't bother answering this question ever. Answer some obvious joke answer and then change the topic.
/r/seduction12/06/15 01:32 PM
1

glad you found it helpful!
/r/seduction12/06/15 01:01 PM
4

What matters isn't success rate, but number of hits. Most guys with high success rates are simply better at Target Selection. That's the key to a high success rate. I wrote about some principles of target selection here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-principles-of-target-selection
/r/seduction09/06/15 07:58 PM
1

I was in your shoes but not due to high standards. Honestly, I suspect your "High standards" are mostly driven by a fear of rejection than an unwillingness to engage.
/r/seduction28/05/15 01:18 PM
0

Women are NOT just as horny as guys. This is a myth used as a peptalk but it is simply NOT THE CASE. The key takeaway from this statement isn't that women are as horny as guys (NO, wrong) but that women do want sex and do enjoy sex.
/r/seduction20/05/15 02:29 PM
1

Don't bring it up unless she explicitly brings it up. Girls know that just because you want to sleep with them doesn't mean you want to freaking marry them. If it's very important to her to not take that risk, she will bring it up before she sleeps with you.
/r/seduction19/05/15 04:48 PM
1

It doesn't matter,and it goes away as you get older.
/r/seduction15/05/15 07:50 PM
1

For awkwardness. Do you want to go further? Than just go further! How to physically do it? One example would be if you are making out on a couch, pull her on top of you (so she is basically straddling you while you sit normally on the couch) and make out with her that way and then start creeping your hands under her shirt -> remove her shirt over her head etc.
/r/seduction15/05/15 07:49 PM
0

i generally recommend avoiding doing anything that makes it seem like you are a cheap bastard just trying to get out of spending $10.
/r/seduction15/05/15 07:46 PM
17

I've been poor and I've been well off. Unless you are a total moron, being well off is better in getting girls in just about every way imaginable. Just don't brag (or brag about it subtely). Women link success/wealth to power which is a huge turn on in terms of LOVER also not just provider. I write about this topic a decent amount: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/money-and-power-work and https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-gold-digger-myth As examples
/r/seduction14/05/15 02:08 PM
1

Are there any signs she is at all attracted to you? IF not, then you don't. Actually, in general, don't. Make her attracted to you first.
/r/seduction14/05/15 02:06 PM
1

This is a natural feeling many guys get. You cannot act on it when you have no evidence or even any indication she even may be cheating on you. Most likely, at this stage, it sounds like she is not. You just have to try to not thinking about it. It's not easy, but this isn't a situation where you can get jealous.
/r/seduction11/05/15 05:39 PM
2

Jealousy is all about management. It depends on the situation. "Not getting jealous" is not realistic. You have to manage and control it. I wrote about this in a bit more detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/jealousy-accept-it-and-control-it
/r/seduction01/05/15 05:45 PM
-1

Going after the % enemy line is pretty good.. I write about that in my e-book. In general though, the key is YOUR PROFILE first and then worrying about opener.
/r/seduction01/05/15 05:43 PM
0

basically this, in my opinion.
/r/seduction01/05/15 05:42 PM
0

I use instruments usually... but other ideas include bringing up a funny youtube video early in the date and then referencing back to watching it later. The key is to not be afraid to ask.
/r/seduction30/04/15 08:14 PM
1

that's fair. I guess I just find a lot of the guys who contact me are always looking for an "inner game" solution as opposed to: "go out and take concrete actions" so I want to temper their expectations that they can look in the mirror and tell themselves they rock and suddenly get women.
/r/seduction14/04/15 08:26 PM
1

I disagree with this. I actually found that a lot of supposed inner game issues are outer game issues, and if you focus on your outer game your inner game actually improves. I wrote about it here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/inner-game-is-learned-in-the-field
/r/seduction14/04/15 02:16 PM
0

Yea, I don't take risks when there is no reason to. That's called not being an idiot, not living in a frightening world. If there was some actual benefit of bringing some girl you want to hook up with to a club rather than take her on a date somewhere, I'd be all for it. Maybe there is in this particular instance, but barring any other information, in general, inviting a girl you want to a club is a mistake.
/r/seduction13/04/15 01:50 PM
6

Stupid move to invite a girl to a club in my opinion. Why risk a bunch of other guys hitting on her?
/r/seduction10/04/15 02:31 PM
98

MOVE ON. IN CAPS. This isn't even friendzone, this is outright rejection.
/r/seduction10/04/15 02:00 PM
1

Don't ask, don't tell, don't find out. Just stop thinking about it. There is no short cut answer here; the more research you do into the matters of cheating etc, will only make you even less secure.
/r/seduction09/04/15 03:39 PM
1

Why wouldn't you give a fuck about meeting girls? Isn't the point to meet girls? Instead of not giving a fuck, why don't you try to give a fuck, actually, give at least two fucks. You'll get more results that way than trying to mindlessly apply a mantra designed specifically to address fear of rejection to everything else.
/r/seduction07/04/15 05:07 PM
1

Yea, most people on these boards are empirical evidence. Depending on your burden of "proof" I would argue almost nothing sociological can be "proven".
/r/seduction07/04/15 05:05 PM
2

In general, yes, bad idea. It of course depends on the situation though.
/r/seduction06/04/15 04:23 PM
1

Agree, romantic doesn't mean expensive.
/r/seduction02/04/15 04:24 PM
-16

it's not about popularity or price it's about it not being a romantic setting.
/r/seduction01/04/15 07:52 PM
23

small of her back... and so what if you are in high school, don't take her out to a place where you wait inline to get food like a cafeteria and where it's light and non romantic.
/r/seduction01/04/15 06:57 PM
0

Lol.. I assume this is a joke
/r/seduction01/04/15 06:54 PM
98

What the fuck are you doing taking a girl on a first date to Chipotle??
/r/seduction01/04/15 06:36 PM
0

Yes, eye contact is important. Wow.
/r/seduction31/03/15 06:48 PM
1

If you really moved on then you wouldn't be thinking about it so much ... if you defriend her it basically sends her a message that (a) you are still hurt/care/outcome dependent, (b) are immature. I wouldn't bother.
/r/seduction31/03/15 06:04 PM
1

why bother?
/r/seduction31/03/15 05:30 PM
7

Does it really matter about saving face?
/r/seduction29/03/15 12:56 AM
2

You don't.
/r/seduction28/03/15 07:51 PM
1

next time close... i don't necessarily understand why it is, but the difference in interest between if you sleep with them and if you don't is HUGE. Always close if you can.
/r/seduction27/03/15 08:05 PM
2

What time are you scheduling dates? Schedule them at a time where the odds of her having plans afterwards are very low.. like say 8pm
/r/seduction27/03/15 07:47 PM
2

She sounds no longer interested.. did you have sex or no?
/r/seduction27/03/15 07:46 PM
1

I usually wait a day before I text after a date and keep texting to a minimum, mostly to arrange another meet.
/r/seduction27/03/15 06:11 PM
6

because of anti-slut defense... you don't ask a girl to come over to hook up or whatever. IT may work, but if it works, everything else would have worked, and there are many situations where other things work and this does not work.
/r/seduction27/03/15 03:07 PM
2

yea pretty much, just give her some plausible deniability (in other words, do not say: Hey want to come over and have sex?") Pretty much everything else is ok.
/r/seduction27/03/15 02:39 PM
2

as long as its not your mom or sister I don't think it's the end of the world :)
/r/seduction27/03/15 02:18 PM
6

https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-tricks-to-get-her-back-to-your-place
/r/seduction27/03/15 02:16 PM
2

EH, height most definitely matters, but yes, it's rarely absolute. It is for some girls though. I wrote about height a few times on my site. https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/does-height-matter and https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/dating-taller-women
/r/seduction26/03/15 03:36 PM
1

You said earlier that it isn't obvious to others unless they are specialists. That means effectively, to others, you do not appear autistic. This is what you said earlier, which you now contradict here. However, from your responses and writing, you are clearly high functioning autistic or maybe aspergers, which I am sure I would have been diagnosed with as a kid, if my parents were to take me to a specialist. I learned a ton of very basic social behavior via rote memorization an repetition until…
/r/seduction25/03/15 02:38 AM
0

If you need to be a specialist to see that you are "autistic" then you shouldn't really be worried about this "diagnosis" and not use it as a crutch. Since as far as ordinary people see, you are normal. Who knows why he fell off the face of the earth, but it probably has nothing to do with your texting.
/r/seduction24/03/15 06:45 PM
2

Yep, Kino.
/r/seduction24/03/15 06:15 PM
1

Eh, I think my partner TVJ did this topic much more justice on my site: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-be-like-mike
/r/seduction24/03/15 05:23 PM
3

Yes you can be alpha. It's harder though for sure.
/r/seduction24/03/15 05:15 PM
1

As someone who shaved my head and has been balding for a while ... I have a lot of experience having hair and not. I wrote about my initial experiences here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/a-month-of-baldness Net net, it is a negative, but not nearly that big of one unless your head shape is really weird or you aren't in good physical shape, and some girls like it more surprisingly. Basically, it increases your 'looks volatility' but it decreases your average. If you are ok w/taking prop…
/r/seduction20/03/15 03:36 PM
1

smfh
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:59 PM
1

Improve yourself and keep trying.
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:38 PM
0

Well, for one, don't go up to random girls and just "ask them out" this almost never works unless you are Ryan Gosling. Focus on making them attracted to you as opposed to the number close.
/r/seduction20/03/15 02:20 PM
5

I agree with this except for not trying to impress her. I disagree with this. One of the big 'DHV's you have with a younger woman (and part of why she is interested) is that you have this added value of a successful career/etc. that she cannot get from people her age. Don't BRAG about it, but definitely do not shy away for it.
/r/seduction19/03/15 03:20 PM
-1

NO.
/r/seduction18/03/15 05:23 PM
1

Ugh. Most women are not gold diggers. Don't even worry about that. Being successful is a positive. https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-gold-digger-myth
/r/seduction18/03/15 05:22 PM
1

this.
/r/seduction18/03/15 02:37 PM
1

Short answer, yes. Being funny is good but not all the time.
/r/seduction18/03/15 02:19 PM
5

It's a perfect time to start over. I never kissed a girl UNTIL college. College was where I really improved my game. I lifted a lot before I went off to college, changed my appearance and dress, and made a conscious effort to improve every aspect of my life, such as being able to make eye contact, overcoming approach anxiety, etc. It took years, but it was a perfect opportunity for a fresh start.
/r/seduction18/03/15 01:59 PM
1

im sorry but getting a 2nd date and getting laid are totally different levels of success. Whats the rate of getting laid vs getting laid. Also, how much effort do you have to put to actually get a date and have them show up in day game vs tinder? Probably a lot more.
/r/seduction17/03/15 05:45 PM
1

Welcome to dating. # closes don't mean shit, expect a high % of flakes.
/r/seduction17/03/15 05:41 PM
1

the success here is potentially self fulfilling (girls this works on are into you, not they are into you because you did this) BUT, I do like the idea (ONLY if you make sure they text you their name) because it will at least ensure you are getting meaningful numbers and not just garbage digits most guys collect.
/r/seduction17/03/15 05:41 PM
4

I would say overall it is a negative, but not a huge one. I started shaving my head 6 months ago and while it is a small negative online and a 'moderate' negative on pure looks apps like Tinder, I have noticed very little difference in 'real life' game. EDIT: and I'm short also.. 5'8". I actually wrote about my initial experiences here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/a-month-of-baldness
/r/seduction17/03/15 03:00 PM
1

that can work ...
/r/seduction17/03/15 01:37 AM
1

Yea some do, but I find texting more effective for many reasons: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/7-reasons-to-text-versus-call
/r/seduction16/03/15 06:34 PM
2

It's all about plausible deniability when it comes to a close (a real close, like f-close). Ask her to come to your place under some pretense like to hear you play guitar, to check out some cool youtube vid, or whatever. DON'T ask her to come over to fool around or have sex or whatever. No upside, all downside.
/r/seduction16/03/15 06:33 PM
3

No need to call her out ... in the rare times this has happened to me I'm just ok cool and then just ignore them going forward if they want to "hang out" unless I want to be friends with them.
/r/seduction16/03/15 06:32 PM
1

This is a common mistake. In practice you actually want to slightly inconvenience them to meet you. It's the concept of investment. I wrote about it here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-importance-of-making-her-invest
/r/seduction16/03/15 01:47 PM
2

Try baby steps in between a 'full blown' approach. Here's a system I developed that helps if you can't "just go talk to her: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-ways-to-combat-approach-anxiety
/r/seduction13/03/15 07:29 PM
1

well, i wouldn't advise not showering after a workout and going straight to a date LOL. I generally lift before dates but not on purpose, just because I lift a lot and go on a lot of dates.
/r/seduction13/03/15 07:28 PM
1

doesn't matter... don't need music or anything like that.
/r/seduction13/03/15 07:12 PM
-1

I wrote about this.. it's kind of like training martial arts. You learn a lot, but only apply a little in practice, eventually, you start to get better at applying more and more in practice without thinking about it or going back to the reference: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/martial-arts-and-dating-advice
/r/seduction12/03/15 08:17 PM
3

as /u/RubyCool said .. usually when this works out its because they were really interested in you to begin with. Most of my friends who are successful with 'hired guns' are successful because the hired gun was really into them right off the bat.
/r/seduction12/03/15 08:08 PM
2

Yea. don't go on a coffee shop date.
/r/seduction12/03/15 07:55 PM
3

You aren't building enough attraction. Instead you are too focused on quickly getting a number. Get her interested in you, stop worrying about her number.
/r/seduction12/03/15 03:50 PM
3

Many reasons. She isn't in the mood, she is attracted to someone else at the venue, she doesn't want to appear like a slut, she thinks he will just use her for sex, she is into more than just looks and game, she doesn't find him attractive (women have really random taste sometime), she thinks he's sleazy, the list is ENDLESS. It happens, a lot.
/r/seduction12/03/15 02:21 PM
9

yes, it happens, not even infrequently.
/r/seduction12/03/15 12:56 PM
24

Yes. I know plenty of guys who are 9s-10s and they get rejected regularly. Even guys with really good game who are 9s-10s. Of course, they are hugely successful as well, but EVERYONE gets rejected.
/r/seduction12/03/15 12:51 PM
5

I find a beard normalizes your looks.. so basically, the less good looking you are, the more a beard helps, and the more good looking you are the less it helps/more it can hurt.
/r/seduction12/03/15 12:50 PM
1

By escalating and building enough attraction before it even gets to the asking out part (or if you met online, well, it's obvious it's a date).
/r/seduction11/03/15 10:12 PM
2

Honestly, I think you fucked this one up. I agree not meeting with her friends, but how you handled it isn't a tactful way to do it. If you didn't want to hang out with her friends (which I agree you should not want) you could have just said: "Oh no worries, next week then..."
/r/seduction11/03/15 10:11 PM
1

if you can't figure it out then there's no point for me to bother
/r/seduction11/03/15 07:17 PM
0

so you think ... they are seeing you despite this kind of behavior, not because of it. Or maybe you live in one of those countries where 50% of men live in their mothers basement until age 35
/r/seduction11/03/15 06:53 PM
0

Good luck with this one. Let me know how that goes.
/r/seduction11/03/15 06:29 PM
1

I wouldn't talk about her kids unless she brings them up all the time ... just bullshit your way through it, talk about things you like to do etc. (as long as its not playing beer pong) etc. same as usual.
/r/seduction11/03/15 05:51 PM
1

is there any indication she is attracted to you or even knows who you are at all? Asking for a number has very little to do with how you ask and all to do with how you attracted her to begin with.
/r/seduction11/03/15 05:38 PM
3

If she is that much older than you and knows your age, she probably just wants to get laid... just go with the flow and escalate.
/r/seduction11/03/15 05:35 PM
3

UGH. PAYING IS NOT BETA. Jesus fucking christ. Bitching about who is going to pay is beta.
/r/seduction11/03/15 04:48 PM
3

This is very common. I probably suffer from the same thing; though I have been in very serious relationships. How old are you? Your age could help determine whether or not you have a real commitment issue or are just young ;)
/r/seduction11/03/15 04:32 PM
1

Consciously think about it while you interact with people and stop it from happening until it becomes second nature. It takes time but it's the most effective way. I've had all kind of weird tics etc. when I was younger, I fixed them by consciously thinking about not doing them until i just got used to it.
/r/seduction10/03/15 06:42 PM
0

my head exploded after reading the 1000000s fuck in that article.
/r/seduction10/03/15 05:15 PM
-11

I hate this not give a fuck mantra. It's very bad advice to follow except in dealing with very specific pitfalls of seduction. I wrote about that in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/you-cant-succeed-if-you-dont-care
/r/seduction10/03/15 03:09 PM
1

yes
/r/seduction10/03/15 02:36 PM
1

this is true ... how do you know they even care? and if they do, depending on your age, have a talk with them.
/r/seduction10/03/15 01:49 PM
2

her place, hotel, car, etc
/r/seduction10/03/15 01:02 PM
3

Well, it's clear that girls are attracted to you sexually. Now your complaint is they aren't good looking enough...well, keep looking and you'll find some who are. As for not being able to do better, this is completely irrelevant, what is relevant is whether or not they do what you want, enjoy it, and like it. There's always a better guy or better girl, worrying about that is pointless.
/r/seduction10/03/15 01:50 AM
3

Looks matter, but it doesn't mean you can't be successful. Everyone gets rejected, even guys who are good looking, some girls think are disgusting. It sounds like you actually have some decent success, so not sure what you are complaining about? Is it that you don't believe any girl is into you for purely sexual reasons? Have you ever had a one night stand? If you have then there is your answer: there are girls interested in you for sexual reasons. It sounds like you are trying to find flaws in …
/r/seduction10/03/15 01:43 AM
2

This is kinda like asking: I want to learn how to play basketball, but I only have a football, so I tried playing basketball with a football and this is what I did. Go out on an actual date with a potential love interest not someone who already has a perception of you as a friend.
/r/seduction09/03/15 07:34 PM
2

No.
/r/seduction09/03/15 05:09 PM
6

cute but this is not what getting a girls number is about. Getting her number is about building enough attraction that how you ask just doesn't even matter.
/r/seduction09/03/15 05:06 PM
1

how despite being one of the more aggressive closers out there (in terms of seeing if a girl wants to come up to my place/or inviting myself to hers after a date) I STILL don't do it everytime.
/r/seduction09/03/15 02:50 PM
1

It is usually a sign of disinterest.. unless you are one of those guys who just texts non stop in which case it's probably a "shut the fuck up and ask me on a date already"
/r/seduction06/03/15 08:08 PM
1

Neither of those
/r/seduction06/03/15 06:16 PM
2

You do not have to display low investment necessarily... what you want is to ensure SHE makes some investment as well.
/r/seduction06/03/15 05:55 PM
1

It's a valid question but a stupid one. If she wants you to know or think she has a boyfriend she will let you know.
/r/seduction06/03/15 04:47 PM
2

It's you man, not your age. I'm in my 30s and despite being bald and less attractive than I was in my 20s I get just as much if not more girls. Get out of the funk, expand your dating pool, and stop worrying about your age. 30s is a great age.
/r/seduction06/03/15 04:40 PM
3

this. Shy is unattractive.
/r/seduction06/03/15 04:23 PM
2

I don't think there is any purpose to volunteer this information. It dramatically lowers your odds. There is honesty and then there is TMI. Girls know that just because a guy wants to meet them and hook up with them doesn't mean he wants to date them. If they care so much and it will hurt them, they can bring it up and then you can tell them the truth then.
/r/seduction06/03/15 02:59 PM
1

Good luck applying this in real life ... smfh
/r/seduction05/03/15 08:22 PM
1

Women care way less about your body than you think...
/r/seduction05/03/15 07:59 PM
1

Have you tried a more gradual approach to overcoming approach anxiety? I wrote about 6 intermediate steps to approaching that could help you: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-ways-to-combat-approach-anxiety
/r/seduction05/03/15 01:18 PM
7

no point.
/r/seduction04/03/15 09:42 PM
1

I'm judging it by the combination of everything... and with day game you are super handicapped in the same day pull dept so already you are starting behind other forms of game.
/r/seduction04/03/15 07:29 PM
5

I've read your comments and stuff.. and you are one of these guys who considers getting a number "success". Day game is way harder than night game for many reasons that I've written about here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/day-game-is-hard Sure people can do it, but it's harder. And wow, what a fucking surprise you are attacking me when you are DayGameCoach trying to sell Day Game advice and coaching.
/r/seduction04/03/15 04:24 PM
4

Day game is hard .. hit rate is low .. just keep trying... or do more effective game like night game or online dating.
/r/seduction04/03/15 03:07 PM
1

usually low level of investment ... sometimes though it just logistically makes sense versus your original proposal. Not the end of the world; better than meeting half way where no one is near a sex location.
/r/seduction04/03/15 01:20 PM
9

Well first of all arrange the date very close to her not 45 minutes away from her. Then, there are several easy approaches (other than arranging a date at her place to begin with). (1) Control the driving, then you have to be at her place at some point at the end of the night. Then you can use the classic "Can I use the bathroom" excuse. (2) If she brings up something funny or unusual at her place ask to check it out towards the end of the date. (For example, if she paints) (3) Just ask: "You li…
/r/seduction04/03/15 01:14 PM
1

I would approach any women you like. However, I wouldn't necessarily game every woman the same way. Gaming everyone the same way is bad strategy period. Always tailor your approach to your target as best you can given the vibe you are getting and past experience.
/r/seduction04/03/15 12:20 AM
1

Honestly you can do totally fine w/women with little to no day gaming at all... I don't think that's such a big deal if you don't have the balls to go up to random girls during the day.
/r/seduction03/03/15 09:01 PM
1

You've gotta stop making numbers your goal... when you do that you will get more meaningful numbers and much more. For this you've gotta probably start doing more night game than just day game. Focus on building attraction, not getting a number.
/r/seduction03/03/15 07:35 PM
2

there's only one sound reason to not make a move on a girl you like when she's alone with you (no the dog doesn't count) at your house, and that reason is you've made a move and she tells you to stop.
/r/seduction03/03/15 07:32 PM
2

I don't do skype but if you have specific questions issues you can email me ([email protected]) and I'm happy to help out for free
/r/seduction03/03/15 07:17 PM
2

yes I would say you blew it... you were persistent and it surprisingly paid off and then you don't even sit next to her and make a move?
/r/seduction03/03/15 07:16 PM
1

What couch and heading over where, to your house? You didn't make a move?
/r/seduction03/03/15 07:09 PM
1

Need more details on the relationship.
/r/seduction03/03/15 05:19 PM
1

I disagree. You should be trying, but sometimes trying hard means not showing interest. Not giving a fuck is yet another seduction mantra taken totally out of context. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/you-cant-succeed-if-you-dont-care
/r/seduction03/03/15 01:55 PM
-2

Bring up this stuff indirectly. I give out a free e-book that has a couple examples of how you 'brag without bragging'. Also, I wrote an article about how to say you're rich without saying it: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/saying-youre-rich-without-saying-it
/r/seduction02/03/15 09:41 PM
1

it's ok, but usually I have found not that many girls go for it surprisingly.
/r/seduction02/03/15 09:31 PM
27

thank you. Glad I'm not the only one out there debunking the idiotic "I asked 100 girls to come play shoots and ladders and here's the fake numbers" experiments.
/r/seduction02/03/15 06:59 PM
1

Sure, that's better than not showing interest, but I just don't get the point of dates in environments that are unlikely to be romantic. Why work hard turning a platonic/daylight environment into something attractive that can turn a woman on when you can just go somewhere more romantic and at night?
/r/seduction02/03/15 06:46 PM
1

haha ok i get it now ...
/r/seduction02/03/15 05:52 PM
13

Better to ask her on something where there is no uncertainty. Stop being afraid of rejection, take her out at night for a drink to a romantic place where it's obvious it's a date. Make your intentions known versus spending time doing something platonic and risking getting friendzoned.
/r/seduction02/03/15 05:41 PM
0

EDIT: haha ok I get it now
/r/seduction02/03/15 05:30 PM
2

"At the end, unless she volunteers herself to, just pay for it. Don't get caught up in what it means to to her, don't assume it's a beta thing to pay for a non girlfriend. As long as she's not taking advantage of you ( where she clearly wants another drink more than your dick), then don't be cheap. Take your wallet out. " Thank you for not continuing to espouse the garbage "don't pay" nonsense. I'd say pay no matter what even if she offers. I know plenty of girls who next a guy because she offer…
/r/seduction02/03/15 04:22 PM
1

eh. most likely the girls you've succeeded with would have responded to ANYTHING. Which is kinda the point of my post. It's a technique that works when anything would have worked, and fails when many other normal techniques would have worked. Thus, it is a terrible technique.
/r/seduction02/03/15 02:18 PM
2

Don't ever tell a girl you want to fuck her as a form of seduction. If THAT works, then ANYTHING You do will work, and many other things will work way better in most situations. You tell a girl you want to fuck her when she's at your place and you're hooking up/i.e. foreplay/dirty talk. It is NOT a pickup technique.
/r/seduction02/03/15 01:30 PM
8

Yes you are insecure. I was the biggest loser ever probably until college. Big deal, I hardly think about it anymore and if I do I laugh about it. Who cares about whether you got bullied in 6th grade, cmon, you are better than worrying about stupid shit like that.
/r/seduction02/03/15 01:27 PM
1

Self deprecating humor is ok if you use it sparingly. Also, I generally like to use it in a way that it also DHVs at the same time. For example, if you tell a story that makes you seem like a huge dork, make sure it also makes you seem really smart.
/r/seduction02/03/15 01:22 PM
2

Don't bring up your issues. In general, don't volunteer negative information. I wrote about that in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-volunteering-negative-information So basically, no, don't bring anything up, just go out there and hit on women, talk about the things you've done (your businesses etc. that's a turn on btw not a turn off) and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction02/03/15 01:12 PM
1

I don't know the reason (probably some inherent evolutionary desire to 'spread our seed') but it's kinda normal to lose some interest once you "get" a girl. However, usually, get = sex. In your case, it seems that you are too afraid of making the move so it's more of a fear of rejection/approach anxiety issue.
/r/seduction02/03/15 01:04 PM
2

Do it and see it isn't awkward. Human touch is a fundamental form of communication between humans.
/r/seduction01/03/15 03:11 PM
2

Over thinking.....
/r/seduction27/02/15 09:20 PM
0

here's how i do it generally speaking: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-3-modes-of-communication-and-how-to-use-them
/r/seduction27/02/15 07:36 PM
-19

be careful though not to continually try to attract them all... eventually you have to make a choice if one of them didn't choose you. I wrote about this: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/attraction-is-an-anchor
/r/seduction27/02/15 06:12 PM
2

As long as you have your own bedroom you should be ok... I have a friend who rents a tiny room from a small apartment occupied by two FAMILIES and he crushes it.
/r/seduction27/02/15 05:33 PM
1

Disagree: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-assume-attraction-fallacy
/r/seduction27/02/15 03:12 PM
1

Change the name.
/r/seduction27/02/15 03:12 PM
1

Sex first is the easiest way.
/r/seduction27/02/15 02:20 PM
1

Sure being smart helps but you can demosntrate intelligence in many ways that just require practice and memorization as opposed to being high IQ.
/r/seduction27/02/15 02:20 PM
0

Jeez. Just move on: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/if-she-says-she-has-a-boyfriend-move-on
/r/seduction27/02/15 01:28 PM
2

What is your actual mental illness>
/r/seduction26/02/15 03:50 PM
3

Looks matter. But that doesn't mean an ugly guy can't get a hot girl, but don't kid yourself, Looks definitely matter.
/r/seduction26/02/15 02:19 PM
6

I generally ignore this and change the topic.
/r/seduction26/02/15 02:04 PM
1

I know plenty of short/bald guys who get girls. I am one of them (though I am not as short as you). Older does not hurt in general. It will be harder for you to play a cold approach game, but you (as you've already noticed) can use social proof/pre-selection strategies. Also try online dating.
/r/seduction26/02/15 02:04 PM
4

By far the biggest cause of flakes are that you didn't build enough attraction to begin with: e.g. they just weren't that into you.
/r/seduction25/02/15 11:44 PM
2

This post is pathetic. Go to the gym, go out, get on online dating, and do something about making your life better. Seriously.
/r/seduction25/02/15 06:27 PM
1

Next time don't ask her to suggest. Propose a date, time, and location and let her respond. However, sounds to me like she may not be interested anymore at this point.
/r/seduction25/02/15 01:47 PM
1

Do you want to fuck her or do you want to make her chase? If it were me, I'd choose the former. Contact her again, arrange a date, preferably at your place or her place, and go from there.
/r/seduction25/02/15 04:06 AM
5

And you won't see it either because it's extremely rare. Night game is generally much more effective for fast seduction all the way to sex.
/r/seduction24/02/15 08:09 PM
2

You were rejected. Move on. She is not interested. Your only chance is to completely reframe your interaction which is basically well into the depths of the friendzone. Stop inviting her over, stop hanging out with her and being her pillow to cry on, improve yourself, become more attractive, go out with other women, and then maybe try again MUCH later in time if you are still interested (which you hopefully and probably will not be).
/r/seduction24/02/15 05:05 PM
2

not much to elaborate. Text to arrange dates only.
/r/seduction24/02/15 02:50 PM
1

She probably knows you can't drive yet so what's the big deal? Have her drive or have your parents drop you off or whatever.
/r/seduction24/02/15 02:24 PM
1

This is actually very true when it comes to kissing (letting them lead) but it is NOT true with a lot of other elements of seduction.
/r/seduction24/02/15 02:22 PM
0

Sorry man but being quiet is generally unattractive to women. Work on being less quiet when talking to women. Don't use "it's who I am as a crutch" and excuse not to change.
/r/seduction24/02/15 02:00 PM
1

If it is a friend that just made out with you while drunk, it probably just doesn't mean much. In general, K-closes don't mean that much unless you are young.
/r/seduction24/02/15 01:52 PM
1

simple: K-closes just don't mean that much. I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/does-a-kiss-matter
/r/seduction23/02/15 07:41 PM
1

First of all there is a HUGE difference between an F-close and K-close... so if you are basing your analysis assuming those are the same it's going to be worthless analysis.
/r/seduction23/02/15 07:26 PM
2

Need more specifics. For example, if some guy who is 2x your size is getting in your face wanting to fight, ignoring them or backing down is probably the right decision. But if you are getting shit on at work/with "friends" etc. it's different.
/r/seduction23/02/15 06:25 PM
6

how about you just have sex with her?
/r/seduction23/02/15 05:03 PM
1

All of these responses you are thinking about are super beta to be honest. Just say, "Ha, knew it. Ran into you at XYZ's party, wanted to say hi because I didn't get a chance to there"
/r/seduction23/02/15 04:59 PM
1

first of all, buy hooking just to confirm you do mean sex right? If not, then it's a totally different story.
/r/seduction23/02/15 03:27 PM
2

Improve your profile. That was the key for me.
/r/seduction22/02/15 11:00 PM
1

I wouldn't worry about it. If you are worried though, just mix up dates that involve money with dates that don't like hanging out at your place watching a movie or something.
/r/seduction20/02/15 10:59 PM
1

Communicate.
/r/seduction20/02/15 07:09 PM
5

I'm bald, and short. Still I go on tons of dates and sleep with tons of women. No excuses.
/r/seduction20/02/15 06:56 PM
2

even if they are right, you can still strive to be more good looking, a better conversationalist, more interesting, etc.
/r/seduction20/02/15 06:49 PM
9

attempt more and try to do things differently than what you have been doing that isn't working. And stop asking good woman friends for opinions on this matter; what are they really going to tell you, that you are ugly and have no game? You can't get an honest answer from them.
/r/seduction20/02/15 06:40 PM
1

Practice. Also, if girls like you, they will make it easier for you to have conversation with them because they will volunteer things.
/r/seduction20/02/15 05:49 PM
1

You can check out my free seduction crash course e-book here: https://www.joshsway.com/ebooks/josh-sways-crash-course-to-women-and-attraction
/r/seduction20/02/15 04:24 PM
1

I've heard both ways but for me it's by far my place. I also plan logistics around that though, so it's self fulfilling.
/r/seduction20/02/15 02:22 PM
2

I'm short and bald. I clean up on online dating. I am built but I don't show it in my profile pictures (so it will be a surprise). I find the stuff in Chelsea around 9th ave and the teens are pretty good (bar at Tao downtown, bathtub gin, etc.) also the rooftops across the city are great (everything from The Refinery to Jimmy) the list is endless, just avoid the sausagefests at random dive bars in Murray Hill and you're fine.
/r/seduction20/02/15 02:15 PM
1

Lol NYC is one of the easiest places to meet women. You can try online dating which is easy in NYC, but if we are talking about other types of game just go out somewhere a step up from Joshua Tree and Bro-Js and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction20/02/15 02:08 PM
1

My statement still holds... she's the worst gold digger alive if she is using someone who makes 60k/yr for money
/r/seduction20/02/15 02:01 PM
2

highly unlikely for it to matter
/r/seduction19/02/15 09:28 PM
1

She has no money right now so you are fine spending it. You said you make an average salary in your city. That is NOT the target someone wanting a sugar daddy is going to go after.
/r/seduction19/02/15 09:27 PM
3

I highly disagree that Mystery Method is debunked.
/r/seduction19/02/15 06:51 PM
4

I dated a girl for several month who ended the first date with me with a handshake...
/r/seduction19/02/15 06:50 PM
0

8pm, if you insist on a coffee date. In general, do not go on dates during the daytime. I write a lot about this kind of stuff.. check out my site (search for coffee date). Oh, and here is an article explaining why 8pm is the best time to go on a date: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-8pm-rule
/r/seduction19/02/15 06:43 PM
1

I have found that their absolute age is almost as important if not more important than the age gap. Focus on what women of the specific age are looking for and play to that angle. I wrote about it in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/absolute-age-trumps-age-gaps
/r/seduction19/02/15 01:35 PM
1

I think by far the two best and easiest ways to appear more sexual is to make good eye contact and kino.
/r/seduction19/02/15 01:33 PM
3

(1) Stop trying to get into long deep convos with girls over text that is annoying as shit. (2) See (1).
/r/seduction18/02/15 07:45 PM
1

2 years? You've gotta get over it. Do not just tell her out of the blue. You need to change the way she views you not just dropping the I like you bomb on her. Here are some concepts on avoiding and exiting the friend-zone which you are heavily entrenched in: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-out-of-the-friendzone-5-concepts
/r/seduction18/02/15 06:37 PM
1

Chemistry is mostly another word for looks/physical attraction. It likely came about so girls don't have to say: "I don't think you are good looking enough for me to date" so they use the euphemism: "chemistry" as in "I just didn't feel chemistry". Sure, if someone is referring to specific chemistry (say chemistry in bed, or chemistry in conversation); but in general the nebulous term "chemistry" without a qualifier generally refers to looks, at least in my opinion.
/r/seduction18/02/15 06:35 PM
2

No. Best way to get a girl into a relationship is to have sex with her early: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/taking-it-slow-is-a-bad-strategy
/r/seduction18/02/15 02:11 PM
1

Generally speaking yes.
/r/seduction18/02/15 02:10 PM
1

Yes obviously everyone is different, but we try to give advice that is most general and most applicable as we can't analyze and give advice for each specific situation when there is almost no information. Sorry to hear about your history with a cold date; your situation is obviously a special case. And while I don't doubt events like this occur much more than they should, it is not typical nor a generally speaking effective dating strategy to try to become friends first before pursuing romance. …
/r/seduction18/02/15 02:53 AM
3

this.
/r/seduction17/02/15 08:37 PM
2

You are still young, but I would suggest putting a plan in place to MOVE. Living in a 700 person village 60 miles away from the nearest city sounds freaking awful. Being in a place with a lot of women near you (like a city) makes the whole getting laid thing much much easier, not to mention it's fun living in a city anyways.
/r/seduction17/02/15 08:09 PM
0

It needs to hurt otherwise you won't learn from it: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-sting-of-rejection-is-good
/r/seduction17/02/15 07:59 PM
3

Both the answers posted so far are fine ... honestly this is very low probability; it really doesn't matter much what you say.
/r/seduction17/02/15 07:38 PM
1

You can learn very little from this other than that it's ok to be adventurous/mix it up during sex. Though I would not recommend a lot of what they do in this book.
/r/seduction17/02/15 07:24 PM
2

I write a decent amount about first dates, such as: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/7-dating-hacks-for-your-first-date and also https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/good-first-date-routine-locations
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:57 PM
2

you don't have to work on one thing at a time, just fyi. Why not work on a few things at once?
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:57 PM
1

this schedule does suck for dating most people. I would try online dating.
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:48 PM
1

Stop diagnosing your limitations: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-diagnosing-your-limitations
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:46 PM
0

are you 12?
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:39 PM
1

They aren't into you most likely. Saying "I don't want to go out on a date but if you want we can hang out as friends" is a REJECTION. Simple as that.
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:39 PM
1

First dates aren't about fun as much as they are about proper logistics and strategy. My partner TVJ wrote a good article on first date routines: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/whats-your-first-date-routine
/r/seduction04/02/15 06:55 PM
1

You are almost certainly in the friendzone and will almost certainly get rejected if you just 'ask her out'. What makes you think she is romantically attracted to you? You have to ATTRACT her first, before you even think about asking her out.
/r/seduction04/02/15 01:45 PM
3

Don't ask. period.
/r/seduction04/02/15 01:32 PM
1

Text for logistics only. That's the easiest first step. If you aren't arranging a date with a text, don't send it.
/r/seduction04/02/15 01:26 PM
3

It is unprofessional. The best way to play this is very indirectly and if the girl shows blatantly obvious interest in you first.
/r/seduction03/02/15 04:10 PM
2

Naturally I prefer they do most of the work but that isn't reality. End of the day it doesn't matter much as long as you are attune to signals.
/r/seduction02/02/15 07:21 PM
5

Wait, it's not common to talk about fucking goats? Seriously? ;)
/r/seduction02/02/15 03:13 PM
7

Logistics: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/why-you-never-get-laid-on-the-first-date
/r/seduction02/02/15 02:17 PM
9

Just say you are tired after 45min-1hr or something and don't offer/go for another drink. If you are trying to get out of it earlier than that? Tough. Don't be an asshole; it's not that hard to spend 45min-1hr with someone you aren't into.
/r/seduction02/02/15 01:23 PM
1

the carbon based life form is ok (though I would take out the sexual stuff...you automatically exclude a lot of girls if you go even a little sexual in profiles, and you gain almost nothing by doing so). It's that you continue with that tone for far too long in my opinion. They get it already that you are funny, shorten it and don't milk the same joke for too long.
/r/seduction02/02/15 01:16 PM
3

Starts well and overall a much better profile than most, but show some diversity and make it shorter. It comes off a bit too try hard and nerdy as you just keep going and going on the same vein.
/r/seduction01/02/15 05:28 PM
1

Learning dating advice is kinda like learning a martial art. You retain much less than you practice in each lesson. I wrote about it in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/martial-arts-and-dating-advice
/r/seduction30/01/15 07:35 PM
2

Peacocking is all about what works for YOU. Everyone is different. I wrote about it here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/does-peacocking-work
/r/seduction30/01/15 06:32 PM
1

nothing wrong with looking hungry.. just don't be needy. Needy appearance is much less common than needy behavior. Don't do needy things like beg, repeat the same question over and over without reframing. Use false time constraints, etc.
/r/seduction30/01/15 06:31 PM
7

Don't text right after a date, that's needy. You should only consider this if you had sex with the girl. Most likely, she just wasn't interested: making out doesn't necessarily mean interest. I know that sounds weird, but it's true.
/r/seduction30/01/15 05:28 PM
1

Yes
/r/seduction30/01/15 01:51 PM
5

You don't decline, you propose what you want at the time you want. If she proposes stuff however, a good way is to accept but with a small change. FOr example. if she says Tuesday at 730, say, 730 is a bit early but how about tuesday at 8.
/r/seduction29/01/15 07:55 PM
1

On regular online dating ...suggesting a meetup should happen usually by the 2nd or 3rd message you send. For tinder, maybe 5-10 messages. Stop dicking around and just ask. You don't need a smooth transition. You can literally just go from a conversation, end it with a period, and then say let's meet up sometime.
/r/seduction29/01/15 04:05 AM
4

I disagree with comments on goofy and silly. Being goofy is NOT the same as being funny. One is attractive to women, one is not. I wrote about that in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/be-funny-not-goofy As for tips on being funny, one good one is to circle back to previous jokes that either you made or someone else made. Sienfeld episodes are great at that; they almost always end with a reference back to a joke from earlier in the episode.
/r/seduction28/01/15 03:10 PM
2

https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-tricks-to-get-her-back-to-your-place
/r/seduction27/01/15 02:47 PM
1

when I'm in sobe I generally use club game and/or tinder
/r/seduction23/01/15 08:43 PM
1

you wait a bit longer than I'd recommend, but PROPS for doing something about your situation! You have the right attitude and look to be well on your way.
/r/seduction23/01/15 06:16 PM
84

bad strategy. Just ask her out.
/r/seduction23/01/15 02:09 PM
19

Why are you having long text conversations? Have you asked her out yet? What did she say?
/r/seduction23/01/15 01:40 PM
1

where does she live? You can always go to her place also...
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:57 PM
1

I wrote an article (actually a few) abut dinner dates.. here is one that answers some of your questions plus gives some other tips: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-ways-to-make-dinner-dates-work Some tips include sharing food..
/r/seduction22/01/15 01:22 PM
1

Yes it's weird. You don't just go up to a girl you never spoke to before and say: "Hey want to go out sometime?" unless you want to get rejected or you are Ryan Gosling. Make some conversation with her first, build some attraction, then ask her out.
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:54 AM
3

Your problem isn't convincing yourself she wants sex, it's you trying to psychoanalyze this girl and coming up with excuses to not have sex with her instead of have sex with her. If she wants to have sex with you, and you want to have sex with her, why don't you just do it? If she brings things up just ignore her or say something like sorry to hear that but not all guys are like that. Regardless, I don't think that is your real issue, I think your real problem is you simply have some fear of sea…
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:51 AM
2

that is my definition of a kiss.. a makeout... ask yourself this: what % of makeouts at a night club do you turn into lays or even a date? Of course, it's higher than a non makeout, my point is, the actual makeout itself is not that necessary.. just building up their interest to where they would makeout with you. Then you can play on the sexual tension build up to get a lot more etc.
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:08 PM
1

I agree with you, it is a mistake, and I've written about it here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/does-a-kiss-matter and here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/kino-over-kissing
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:17 PM
1

Pick her up.
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:16 PM
4

huh?
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:08 PM
2

Unlike most of the posts here I actually feel she got less attracted because you didn't immediately just try to defuse the situation. That or you misread how interested she actually was which is very common.
/r/seduction21/01/15 07:56 PM
1

Not typical. Tinder/Hinge/apps if you are ugly yes, they are a waste of time, but regular dating sites are still by far the easiest ways to get laid. By far.
/r/seduction21/01/15 07:46 PM
1

Just make it clear with body language etc. People don't want to be rejected... better to just let it fade away.
/r/seduction21/01/15 07:24 PM
5

nothing you can do in this situation .. most likely it was just an excuse to get rid of you to be honest.
/r/seduction21/01/15 03:14 PM
1

mostly looks but about me does matter .. and yes, witty and funny is the way to go
/r/seduction21/01/15 02:23 PM
2

No. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-asking-why
/r/seduction20/01/15 08:53 PM
1

Ryanair doesn't have assigned seats... still, obviously from my post I do agree with you that it is a very low probability event for the typical traveler to be able to sit next to some girl he met at the airport.
/r/seduction20/01/15 06:43 PM
2

yep that's why I posted the comment...
/r/seduction20/01/15 04:10 PM
2

southwest doesnt have assigned seating.. but ya, most flights do have assigned seating.
/r/seduction20/01/15 04:10 PM
7

You're having sex with her.
/r/seduction20/01/15 03:42 PM
4

there's this thing called assigned seats on many flights... maybe this works on Ryanair...
/r/seduction20/01/15 03:42 PM
0

By far the easiest method is to pick a venue near her place and then ask to use the bathroom...
/r/seduction20/01/15 03:03 PM
14

bus and tram stops is the 'best location' according to the article.
/r/seduction20/01/15 02:27 PM
1

Pretty good tips except for a very important missing one: LOGISTICS. Interesting part of town is not good if it's far from both of you and far from a sex location. Make it easy to bring her back to your place (or go to hers) on a date. If you want to get laid a lot, that is.
/r/seduction16/01/15 08:41 PM
1

Best way to win at text game is not to play it. Minimize contact until you can meet in person. A text every week or so is plenty. Every day or so video chatting with someone you haven't even seen in real life? Eh, leave some mystery there.
/r/seduction16/01/15 08:38 PM
1

no prob glad you found it useful.
/r/seduction16/01/15 01:36 PM
2

I agree with Manson... Move on. I wrote about it in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/if-she-says-she-has-a-boyfriend-move-on
/r/seduction15/01/15 09:49 PM
1

Depends on how she flaked... things happen sometimes. It's all about the manner with which the flake occurred. One thing I do when there is a flake is that I double book the next date in case she flakes again. But in your case, per your comment below, the answer is clearly move on.
/r/seduction13/01/15 05:30 PM
1

I generally do the reverse, but I think the principle is actually the same: don't be sexual in every mode of communication. Initially, I personally prefer to be sexual with kino and eye contact and non-sexual verbally.. he seems to prefer sexual verbally non sexual physically initially.
/r/seduction06/01/15 09:51 PM
1

Here's my question: What is the point of your post?
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:58 PM
1

There is almost no chance that you were too apathetic and that is what lost her interest. Texting minimally except to set up dates is GOOD protocol, not bad. The more likely reason she 'went cold' is that either she (a) was actually not as interested as you thought, or (b) you didn't move fast enough (if you kiss, try to go for more, always at least try, it never hurts, and it usually helps)
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:53 PM
1

Tell her ok Sat at 9pm AT XYZ PLACE see you then. And plan a backup date/plans.
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:40 PM
1

I think there is more to it than just confidence.. Here are my "3C's of pick up": https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-3-cs-of-pickup
/r/seduction06/01/15 07:33 PM
1

Honestly, this shouldn't matter that much unless you are spinning many plates and want it to be hard for girls to find info about you online.
/r/seduction06/01/15 04:28 PM
1

Could have been a hooker ;)
/r/seduction06/01/15 01:48 PM
1

online
/r/seduction06/01/15 12:49 PM
3

You text a girl after a few months of no talking and you didn't have much going on to begin with ... what do you expect her answer to be?
/r/seduction06/01/15 12:49 PM
2

You should seek professional help... this is some serious issue you have that you feel like vomiting etc.
/r/seduction06/01/15 12:48 PM
1

that happens regardless just collecting numbers, which is why i wouldnt even focus on numbers as a goal, but getting some flaky numbers is better than not getting anything even from girls who are interested.
/r/seduction05/01/15 04:14 PM
11

do not do this. girls almost never act on this even if they are interested. get their number.
/r/seduction05/01/15 03:53 PM
1

Try not to agree to meet 11am. Meet her at night for a drink... if she won't even make the effort to meet you for an evening it's usually a waste of time.
/r/seduction05/01/15 02:25 AM
1

Girls taste is much more varied than mens.. that's all. For us guys, it's unusual that one of us thinks a girl is a 10 while another thinks she is a 6 or 5 but for girls this is way more common than you think. Nothing surprising here. In terms of how you tell? It doesn't really matter that much..just try to attract her and calibrate accordingly.. if she isn't attracted, she'll give you signs, and if she is, she will give you the signs she is...
/r/seduction31/12/14 03:56 AM
3

Overall a solid book. My only knock on it is that Mark is tall, good looking, and successful. 'Being yourself' works well when you are Mark Manson, but sometimes, you've gotta be more than yourself to succeed.
/r/seduction30/12/14 01:48 PM
7

In my opinion this is horrible advice. The goal of online dating is to GET GOOD DATES, not just get responses and emails. The vast majority of women will be super turned off and disgusted by your lie if they don't have real pictures before a meet and all that will happen is that you will have wasted a bunch of time on dates that don't go anywhere.
/r/seduction29/12/14 07:36 PM
2

"Worth the money" is a relative term. If you have a ton of money, then sure. However, In general I find that bootcamps/coaching are highly effective in ONE thing, and that is addressing AA. If you have MAJOR AA problems, then a bootcamp could be worth it. Otherwise, unless you are rich and $2,000 doesn't mean much to you, probably not worth it.
/r/seduction29/12/14 06:51 PM
2

I have a lot on my website about oneitis: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/search/oneitis
/r/seduction24/12/14 07:40 PM
2

Everyone has approach anxiety from time to time.. and there are some rational reasons for it. For example, one legitimate reason to not approach is if you think rejection probability is very high and you are highly visible to other potential targets.. it's not great for people to see you get blown out. In that case, pick a different target.
/r/seduction24/12/14 04:27 PM
1

as in you are aware of the flaws or you think they have no flaws?
/r/seduction24/12/14 02:23 PM
1

Is this what is happening to you? https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-oneitis-death-trap
/r/seduction24/12/14 01:36 PM
1

Trust me, life only gets better, much better... You think it bothers me that I was the biggest dork ever in high school? I don't even think about it or care. If anything, I laugh about it. Chicks love hearing that I was a huge dork back in the day
/r/seduction24/12/14 01:35 PM
1

Don't worry man .. I never kissed a girl until college and now I've been with hundreds 12 years later ....
/r/seduction24/12/14 12:53 AM
1

If you are talking about high school, then the stigma you carried will probably not go away overnight and while you an improve the situation a little, it's probably going to be until you leave high school that the work you've done will really start paying dividends. The good news? The vast majority of your life is after high school, and a lot of the traits you may think are bad (like being 'nerdy/smart' etc.) are actually GOOD once you leave high school.
/r/seduction23/12/14 10:19 PM
3

Getting hurt while rock climbing is kinda bad ass man... Don't even worry about it; but obviously plan a date that doesn't involve much moving around and is close to your place (which you should be doing anyways)
/r/seduction23/12/14 10:18 PM
3

You made it through undergrad so you are clearly not that far deep on the spectrum. Accept that certain things are harder for you and just work harder to overcome them. Social interactions do not have to come naturally in order to be good at them. Practice makes things natural, including very unnatural things. You just have to practice more things which come naturally to others. Not a big deal.
/r/seduction23/12/14 06:23 PM
1

Stop self diagnosing yourself and worrying about these nebulous conditions. Learn to be more social just like you would learn everything else in life. So what if it isn't natural to you? It wasn't natural to me, or many other guys, but a lot of us don't make ourselves slaves to the condition. I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-diagnosing-your-limitations
/r/seduction23/12/14 04:08 PM
1

This has happened to me. It really depends on each girl how to handle this situation. The way I have handled it in the past is to straight up express that look if you aren't in the mood it's not a big deal but I am 100% not ok being in a relationship where you try to leverage my behavior with sex.
/r/seduction23/12/14 02:27 PM
1

Generally I find it makes little difference one way or the other... now with a girl who is very interested in you, it could make a big difference (but which way is often unpredictable)
/r/seduction23/12/14 02:01 PM
1

why dont you use tinder to get laid?
/r/seduction23/12/14 01:59 PM
3

not that important to do this, text for logistics and to meet in person.
/r/seduction22/12/14 07:16 PM
11

touch her
/r/seduction22/12/14 06:29 PM
5

You don't have to turn mundane into sexual conversation, you just have to turn it into "not mundane". Focus on kino and eye contact instead of sexual words... it's easier, and usually more effective.
/r/seduction22/12/14 05:45 PM
2

Pick up a hobby. Here's a hobby cheat sheet I put together a while ago: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-josh-sway-hobby-cheat-sheet
/r/seduction22/12/14 05:41 PM
1

yea why not? If you can afford it. The thing is if you do that regularly, it's probably cheaper to just have your own place.
/r/seduction22/12/14 05:33 PM
2

Who said that's ALL you have to do?
/r/seduction22/12/14 05:32 PM
1

I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-girls-while-living-at-home
/r/seduction22/12/14 05:20 PM
1

I wrote about the guy I know: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/be-a-closer
/r/seduction22/12/14 03:25 PM
2

As others have said: LIFT.
/r/seduction22/12/14 02:44 PM
4

Have you talked to her before other than saying hi/thanks/how much? Is there any sign at all that she is interested in you? Does she even have a clue who you are? Try to make her notice you/attracted to you before just asking a random stranger for her number.
/r/seduction21/12/14 05:33 PM
1

If you aren't exclusively dating her, you've got to play this kind of stuff cool even though it hurts inside. If you are exclusively dating her then you can bring it up. Otherwise, play it cool. If you don't you come off as insecure. It also sounds like you haven't really done much physically with this girl. If you haven't at least had sex with her (or whatever is 'equivalent' if you are very young), then you really are in no place to say anything as the power is all with her not you.
/r/seduction21/12/14 05:27 PM
1

How long are we talking about? Why are you arranging dates for such a long period of time in between .. and you should always text in between but just to confirm you guys are still on.
/r/seduction18/12/14 01:41 PM
5

Agree with this, I have written about this numerous times: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/kiss-denial-get-more-than-a-kiss and https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/kino-over-kissing
/r/seduction17/12/14 09:46 PM
13

Because you are afraid of rejection, simple as that.
/r/seduction17/12/14 09:29 PM
1

Yes you should use texting mostly to just meet up. Not sure why you think that is not the way to go; it is the way to go. You will not get friend zoned by texting to meet up quick, if anything, you will get friendzoned if you dick around texting all day instead of asking them out.
/r/seduction17/12/14 08:48 PM
1

Agree with this. Another similar and linked concept is that of always escalating and maintaining forward progress my partner TVJ wrote about this in detail: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/always-maintain-forward-progress
/r/seduction16/12/14 10:47 PM
-1

No obligation. No point to bring it up unless you have to. Seriously, girls dont just assume you want to marry them because you had a good time on a date or two. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-not-to-do-friends-with-benefits
/r/seduction16/12/14 10:44 PM
2

Sex = watching paint dry?? I could see it slowing down with a long term girlfriend, that's normalish, but a one night stand being like watching paint dry? That is not normal at all. Is it just during that you lose interest, or you don't feel you even want to sleep with them in the first place?
/r/seduction15/12/14 08:24 PM
2

eh, cover is between $50-$150... similar in most top clubs in vegas. Still its big which makes it good for being out alone.. money is not the only evaluator of whether or not something works. Actually, money should really have nothing to do with whether or not a place is good or bad.
/r/seduction15/12/14 07:45 PM
1

Honestly, it really doesn't matter ... it's a low probability event to get them to go out with you to the same place and one that frankly, just isn't worth spending too much time making happen.
/r/seduction15/12/14 07:28 PM
2

why not?
/r/seduction15/12/14 07:15 PM
1

Provide experiences as opposed to money. For example, tickets to some cool art show (because you know the guy running it). It does; however, help to have money, because a lot of wealthier successful girls don't want to deal with some guy who she can't go with to a nice restaurant because he'll shit his pants when he sees the bill.
/r/seduction15/12/14 06:58 PM
8

No. Don't bother, just move on.
/r/seduction15/12/14 06:47 PM
6

lol someone driving uber for fun in NYC? Ha. Now i've heard it all
/r/seduction15/12/14 02:22 PM
3

go to the good clubs (hakkasan, marquee, etc.) and/or go to one of the good hotels and just hit on everyone around the floor/bars etc
/r/seduction15/12/14 01:55 PM
6

Interesting post. The training style of martial arts is also quite applicable to seduction. I wrote about that here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/martial-arts-and-dating-advice
/r/seduction12/12/14 07:02 PM
2

Honestly, if getting laid is the sole goal, nothing beats online dating. ANYONE can get laid on that.
/r/seduction12/12/14 02:45 PM
1

I don't believe a lot of this post ... like remembering about his babysitter at age 3 and climbing out a window, at that age?
/r/seduction12/12/14 01:51 PM
1

Keep attracting her and let it 'happen'. Don't tell her you are interested, and don't be so sure she is interested btw. Make sure you KNOW.
/r/seduction11/12/14 08:17 PM
13

Wrong guys.
/r/seduction11/12/14 08:01 PM
2

crappy place is for the most part a non issue... car, depends on where you live, but in general, you want to meet girls walkign distance from your place anyways
/r/seduction11/12/14 06:42 PM
1

If you've had sex it doesn't matter that much .. next day, day after, it doesn't make a big difference. If you did NOT have sex... I like to wait until at least a day has passed.
/r/seduction11/12/14 06:40 PM
1

cool, must be a thailand thing ..tried this in multiple locations and on multiple dating sites not just tinder and it works terribly at least for me, even when I put misleadingly good pictures. EDIT: I've also found even the very few who were down in message did not even convert at a 50% clip, BUT, there were so few of them so the sample set is small.
/r/seduction11/12/14 05:39 PM
7

This is either strictly a "being white in thailand thing", some other unique situation or made up. This strategy does not work well, and most posts of these supposed experiments turn out to be fake like the 'shoots and ladders', the guy from okc who claimed the same type of %'s (but then started pretending he was 'banned' to not be able to produce any evidence) etc. etc..
/r/seduction11/12/14 04:29 PM
1

How are you sure it's not the friendzone? Are you having sex with them or hooking up with them? If not, then well, you are in the friendzone buddy.
/r/seduction10/12/14 06:49 PM
0

You don't just "ask girls out". Is there any attraction at all? Attract her first, then how you ask won't matter.
/r/seduction10/12/14 06:02 PM
1

Yes it's bad. Just like you can't just jump into the NBA before you've ever picked up a basketball, you can't only go after 10s and expect to have any success whatsoever.
/r/seduction10/12/14 06:01 PM
0

online dating isn't just about pictures, not by a long shot .. profile is hugely important as long as you aren't straight up hideous.
/r/seduction10/12/14 06:00 PM
4

Just start talking close to her and see how receptive she is and then just go for it. That's the easiest way.
/r/seduction10/12/14 01:51 PM
1

No reason to say anything about this at all. No one will ask and no one will care.
/r/seduction10/12/14 01:10 PM
1

Try online dating?
/r/seduction10/12/14 01:10 PM
2

Your problem is in building attraction I suspect. There aren't a lot of firm rules in seduction but good eye contact and kino are about as close as you get to them. You HAVE to do these things to succeed with women, PERIOD. The good news is you've built up enough attraction to get them to go out with you the first time and not flake. (I think? unless they are social circle friends you are sort of guilting into going out with you). Just be more aggressive with eye contact, kino, and physical prox…
/r/seduction10/12/14 01:04 PM
1

Have you tried using identity statements in conversation? https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-secret-to-small-talk-identity-statements
/r/seduction05/12/14 03:15 PM
2

There are many techniques you can use to isolate. I wrote about several here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/7-ways-to-get-her-alone-with-you Why would they not work in germany?
/r/seduction05/12/14 02:58 PM
2

Why can't you just isolate and then go from there?
/r/seduction05/12/14 02:45 PM
1

It's kind of about pick up i guess, but Swingers
/r/seduction04/12/14 09:09 PM
1

Thanks glad you liked them
/r/seduction04/12/14 02:10 PM
1

did you sleep with these girls?
/r/seduction03/12/14 07:56 PM
8

Take with a grain of salt: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/womens-advice-is-for-men-they-already-like
/r/seduction03/12/14 06:05 PM
1

I wasn't clear if this post was about a dinner date or just dinner for friends (as I interpreted it). As far as dinner dates, everyone has different experiences. I personally have had very good success with dinner dates for a multitude of reasons, such as the investment requirement you bring up (and many others) but I know a lot of people do not have good success with them. In general, I do not recommend dinner dates to guys who are not that experienced (despite my success with them), but at the…
/r/seduction03/12/14 05:57 PM
1

I personally like match.com and traditional dating sites and also the coffeemeetsbagel and hinge apps. I find them way better than Tinder for anyone who is not an extremely good looking guy.
/r/seduction03/12/14 04:42 PM
2

In my experience ... face first, then height
/r/seduction03/12/14 04:40 PM
1

People are cheap. I mean just look at the seduction community and how much emphasis there is on trying to avoid paying for little things like drinks. Doesn't mean you have to be the same way though.
/r/seduction03/12/14 04:39 PM
2

Thank you. This is a really important point. I wrote about that here also: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-her-number
/r/seduction01/12/14 01:47 PM
7

I always go for this. Always. If Im looking for sex, relationship, doesn't matter. It is the best strategy in my opinion. For one, you will not lose her if you try to invite her up. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/you-wont-lose-her-if-you-ask-her-over Secondly, moving fast is the best strategy I have found. I wrote about that also in more detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/taking-it-slow-is-a-bad-strategy Sex makes women attached, so if …
/r/seduction30/10/14 07:58 PM
4

Girls almost never tell the truth why they reject you. She wasn't interested. https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-asking-why
/r/seduction28/10/14 02:06 PM
4

Yes, it's possible. You just have to fight the urge to get needy and too attached after sex because it just happens to often times be a turn off to women, even if it shouldn't be. Then general rule, is wait for them to say they like you first.
/r/seduction27/10/14 08:10 PM
1

I don't think it's BAD necessarily either .. I just think it's inefficient and that guys should strive for more than a blanket approach. Agree 100% there is no single correct way, but I kinda feel like the "assume attraction" mentality is basically advocating a blanket approach.
/r/seduction27/10/14 07:51 PM
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Not bad, but you can do better.
/r/seduction27/10/14 07:35 PM
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Yes if you use Assume Attraction as a mantra before you approach what you are saying makes sense, but the approach is just a small part of seduction. I don't personally think once you've engaged that assuming attraction makes sense; maybe if you aren't sure, it's better to assume attraction than not, but I just think guys can do better: look for IOIs and then calibrate accordingly. Calibration and assume attraction I guess work together on the margin or when there is attraction, but considering …
/r/seduction27/10/14 07:34 PM
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this is like getting on the highway, driving 30 minutes to the airport, flying to a different country, flying back, driving back home, and then hopping on a bike to get to your neighbors house.
/r/seduction27/10/14 04:52 PM
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Disagree.. this is nothing more than a pep-talk point: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-assume-attraction-fallacy
/r/seduction27/10/14 04:04 PM
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(1) Be as good looking as you can be [gym, fashion, etc.] (2) Improve other aspects of your life, like your career, add hobbies, social proof, etc. (3) Work on appearing "powerful" (4) Don't be ashamed of using "provider game" (5) You probably aren't as ugly as you think.
/r/seduction27/10/14 02:27 PM
1

I'm with you, I have no clue, and have written several articles where I consistently advocating getting sex as soon as possible.
/r/seduction23/10/14 07:06 PM
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Most important for what? I would argue that for seduction, e.g. getting girls, it is actually less important than just going out there and work on meeting girls (not to mention you will improve inner game by working on your outer game). I wrote about this multiple times, and I think it is important because I find too many people use inner game is a crutch (e.g. "My inner game isn't good enough for me to go out and try to meet women": https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/inner-game-is-learned-i…
/r/seduction23/10/14 05:53 PM
2

I think the main benefit is if you have approach anxiety issues ... coaching can be very helpful in helping you overcome that.. otherwise .. it probably isn't worth the money, but if you have a lot of money, you'll get something out of it.
/r/seduction22/10/14 08:50 PM
1

What do you care more about, supplicating, or getting laid? It's the way the game is played. what do you want, a world where you can just club women over the head and rape them?
/r/seduction22/10/14 08:49 PM
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https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/if-she-says-she-has-a-boyfriend-move-on
/r/seduction22/10/14 05:54 PM
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This surprises you? It's part of why I don't do bootcamps/trainings like this etc... unless you have massive approach anxiety you cannot get over, they are mostly a waste.
/r/seduction22/10/14 05:20 PM
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The approach from behind is ok, but it has been played out so it is not efficient. As for talking, it is hard to talk on the dance floor, and your game should be focused more physically and non-verbal initially and gear your talking to move towards isolation.
/r/seduction22/10/14 05:17 PM
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Looks like she was just using you for a place to sleep and had no interest at any point in the night... rare, but happens.
/r/seduction21/10/14 06:58 PM
2

Yes, for the theory, attraction -> comfort -> seduce etc. Not the routines; though having a plan at least as a back up isn't bad.
/r/seduction21/10/14 06:11 PM
4

I actually still find mystery method to be one of the most important books in seduction...
/r/seduction21/10/14 05:55 PM
0

Who gives this advice? I sure as shit don't. This is not great advice generally speaking: there is nothing wrong with thinking about what you are going to say and planning. Flowing naturally is better, but there's nothing wrong with having some premeditated backup material. I also don't agree with most of the people here saying that if you are thinking about what to say you aren't listening. They are not mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction21/10/14 02:00 PM
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Eh ... i don't think it matters much ... flip the script: do you think a random guy you don't know that your girlfriend was into would stop in order to "do the right thing" for a random guy he doesn't even know?
/r/seduction21/10/14 01:58 PM
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You are probably judging women too harshly.. a woman doesn't have to have 50 hobbies to be interesting...
/r/seduction21/10/14 01:57 PM
1

Why did you get yourself in this situation to begin with? https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/dont-neglect-logistics
/r/seduction20/10/14 11:30 PM
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Your major is irrelevant unless you go to a really small school ... you meet plenty of girls outside of class. I was like you, never even kissed a girl before college.. left college with plenty of lays, vastly improved self esteem, looks, game, social skills, and well, everything. It's not too late to change but you need to put in conscious effort to change. I used college as a fresh start, but it was not easy. I put in conscious effort and work going from the scrawny nerdy weirdo loser I was in…
/r/seduction20/10/14 11:28 PM
1

Before all you crazy kids quit college, remember that one success story doesn't make a trend or a strategy. Sure, you can succeed without university, and most of us who have gone to university know that you don't really learn all that much that you will apply in a future job career, but don't underestimate the value of that piece of paper, especially if that piece of paper comes from a very reputable university. And don't underestimate the value of the people you meet and the lessons you learn, …
/r/seduction20/10/14 11:25 PM
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I meet interesting women all the time here...that's my favorite part about nyc, that most of the women I meet, I don't have to worry about whether they are dead beat losers with mental problems
/r/seduction20/10/14 07:44 PM
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The main difference between an online date and another date of a girl you picked up at a bar is that you don't know if she is into you with the online date (she may not like you when she sees you etc.) So you should be focusing on building attraction. If you see attraction, escalate. Here's some basic dating advice: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-dating-feedback-loop and: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-escalate-on-a-date
/r/seduction20/10/14 07:35 PM
1

all variations plus good amount of online game .. not much day game though, mostly cold approaches out at night
/r/seduction20/10/14 07:24 PM
1

Location ... classy women is a big function of where you live, not what you do or what your interests are. I would say the center of 'classy' women per your definition is manhattan where I am now ... whereas a place like Miami or Vegas ... eh
/r/seduction20/10/14 07:19 PM
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The solution here is to force yourself to do it. Stop thinking about your "inner game" and mental state of mind and just start by going through the motions of going up to women, making eye contact, talking to them, kino, etc. With results, confidence will follow. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/inner-game-is-not-your-problem and also read the article linked in there about how outer game can improve your inner game and state of mind.
/r/seduction20/10/14 04:49 PM
1

Stop texting without a purpose and you don't have to worry as much about this stuff. Text for logistical purposes.
/r/seduction20/10/14 02:24 PM
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You can build attraction over the phone, but it's hardly necessary.. if you suck at phone game, you can get away just fine without doing any of it (just use messaging and text to arrange meetups).
/r/seduction17/10/14 06:24 PM
1

Look up "anti-slut-defense" .. this is basically the explanation ...
/r/seduction17/10/14 06:23 PM
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the point of eye contact is to show interest and get a sign she is receptive to an approach or at least to a smile .. not to stare at a girl like a creep! :) With that said, if making eye contact is a struggle of yours, always err on the side of being creepy vs making too little eye contact!
/r/seduction17/10/14 06:19 PM
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Ok, lot's of issues here. (1) No physical touching etc. is bad (2) Arranging a meeting during the day is bad ... grow some balls and ask her out at night ... if she says no to that but yes to lunch you don't really have a chance anyways, do you? So the solution at this stage. Invite her out, on a REAL date ( you don't have to call it a date, but meet her out, at night, where it's OBVIOUS it's a date and there are romantic intentions)
/r/seduction17/10/14 04:34 PM
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No, you should almost never do it that way. I wrote an article about this common question here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-not-to-do-friends-with-benefits
/r/seduction17/10/14 01:35 AM
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You have to snap out of 'courtship' mode once you have had sex with a girl a couple times (sometimes, even just once) and move into "dating" mode. Most PUA stuff is designed to teach you how to GET girls, not keep them.
/r/seduction16/10/14 10:51 PM
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What makes you appear passive? Is it your body language? The way you look (in which case as FightingGravityAgain said, lift)? Your voice? Hard to fix without knowing more details
/r/seduction16/10/14 10:27 AM
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I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-ways-to-combat-approach-anxiety
/r/seduction16/10/14 10:24 AM
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The cold approach does work but the % success rate per approach is very low for most guys unless they are very good looking with very solid game or have huge social proof at the particular venue. For real life game, I prefer more optimized approaches such as identifying targets which are potentially interested (based on their eye contact etc., I wrote about ways to identify them here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-principles-of-target-selection) and not just mindlessly hitting on ever…
/r/seduction16/10/14 10:19 AM
1

smfh
/r/seduction16/10/14 10:14 AM
1

How did we get into a discussion about practice approaching strange people? I thought this post was about getting laid? Sure, online dating isn't going to help your cold approaching that much. It probably also won't help you get better at basketball. But it will help you get laid a lot more.
/r/seduction15/10/14 09:44 PM
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Ok. Well I've lived here for almost 8 years...so I think I would know about NYC a little better than you? Look, everyone has game that works better or worse for them. But to say online dating is a crutch or not as effective as a blanket statement is simply ridiculous.
/r/seduction15/10/14 08:39 PM
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tl/dr I'm tired of having this debate honestly.. do waht you want, continue to believe online dating doesn't work... whatever... readers can just try it out and decide for themselves if it works or not. I know it works very well for me, people I have coached, and just about all my guy friends who use it. I don't know what friends you know but they are either clueless online, or they define success in weird ways like how many girls htey kclosed or opened or whatever, but not how many girls they f…
/r/seduction15/10/14 07:59 PM
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Start having successes and hit on more girls...There is no "secret" to getting over it.. as you get more successful with women you naturally get over it. Focus on getting women, not the nebulous concept of outcome dependence.
/r/seduction15/10/14 03:20 PM
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Yes, sheer volume which is the case with women online. The volume online is HUGE. You think there isn't competition for girls in the sheer volume environment in NYC in real life? What on earth are you talking about. More numbers = better, and online the amount of options YOU have is also huge. Also, there are considerable imbalances from what I hear with more women than men online, which is another HUGE benefit of the numbers in online dating, and there is well, the fact that when you actually l…
/r/seduction15/10/14 02:14 PM
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Day game is tough man ... numbers are nice, but even the best maybe convert 10% of numbers into dates (I think paul janka once said he maybe gets 10% of the girls he gets numbers from and he is a master pick up artist who is also tall, good looking, rich, and went to harvard) so that should tell you something... they aren't kidding when they say it's a numbers game!
/r/seduction15/10/14 12:11 AM
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Tinder is fine but you are much more dependent on looks than you are on okc and even more dependent on looks than you are on match.. you also fail to recognize that a bunch of weirdos and creeps emailing a girl works in your favor online as it paints you in a much more favorable light relative to the competition if you aren't a weirdo or creep. This is a very powerful concept and part of what makes online dating so effective despite you thinking the numbers are stacked against you... there are m…
/r/seduction14/10/14 10:51 PM
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I'm 5'8" and I list 5'9" .... i do have higher income ... but i would just leave it blank or lie...
/r/seduction14/10/14 10:49 PM
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Of course I have. It doesn't matter..she will find you easily if she wants to...online dating is BY FAR the easiest way to get women, if you aren't succeeding on it you are doing something very wrong or you are very ugly, which I will admit, for very ugly people it doesn't work that well. I get all the logic here, but it is just not how it works. The most common reason that guys think online dating is hard is because they are very bad at online dating. You also have a very low opinion of women i…
/r/seduction14/10/14 02:53 PM
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One would think, but it's not what happens.. most messages go straight to the trash and actually help lower the value of the competition and lower their expectations which makes a "normal" person messaging them look much more attractive for the mere fact that they aren't a weird creep or 30 years older than them. I actually find that MEN are the ones who are way more picky online, thinking for some reason that the second they jump online they will get all these 9s and 10s that they would never e…
/r/seduction14/10/14 01:19 PM
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Well, I think tinder doesn't need as much of a 'guide' as other stuff..and it isn't that effective if you are not at least somewhat good looking
/r/seduction14/10/14 12:38 PM
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Some good advice in there (part 2) but still think you trivialize the important of profile and of header. For example, header matters A LOT because on many sites that and your main picture are what gets them to click in the first place. It doesn't matter if your entire supply of women comes from messaging them first ... but good profiles and headlines get messages... most of my dates actually come from women messaging me first, and I'm about average looks, 5'8", and bald. I do agree 30x canned i…
/r/seduction14/10/14 02:59 AM
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only thing true here is that women get so many messages ... but the conclusions here could not be further from the truth.
/r/seduction14/10/14 02:56 AM
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Porn stars are hardly desirable.. only to a small subset of the male population I would think.
/r/seduction13/10/14 11:48 PM
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I just semi ignore it
/r/seduction13/10/14 11:40 PM
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A couple of notes. (1) mybestface is total shit. I've written about it a few times .. here is one article about why it doesn't work: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-using-okcupids-mybestface (2) You don't mention anything about profile which is hugely important. My online dating system is very profile dependent which is a huge plus because it can also work for people who are not attractive. (3) The blast everyone approach is ok but inefficient and you can burn your chances with quali…
/r/seduction13/10/14 11:39 PM
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This is very common. I wrote an article about this and how you can address the problem here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/martial-arts-and-dating-advice
/r/seduction13/10/14 08:01 PM
3

Let me ask you something: Is your goal to "maintain frame" or to get the girl? You don't have to be better than a girl at everything to get her.
/r/seduction13/10/14 08:00 PM
1

As bl1y said, full interaction open to close would be super boring even for some of the fastest most atypical seductions.
/r/seduction10/10/14 05:30 PM
1

Nope you are ok... I personally know someone who was older than you, also bald, short, and not attractive how was dating women younger than 36. Though, it would help to lose the beer belly and shave your head completely.
/r/seduction08/10/14 11:30 AM
2

The same way you start learning everything.
/r/seduction02/10/14 01:59 PM
1

Texting is mostly for logistics. For a week time span, I only text once every few days. There are all kind of techniques etc. on what to text which I am admittedly not an expert in but there is some good content out there like magnetic messaging.
/r/seduction02/10/14 01:42 PM
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The best way to get kissing? Is to not worry about kissing in the first place. Kissing should not be your goal, sex should be, and when you stop thinking about kissing as a goal, you'd be surprised how easy it is to get. I write about this a lot: How focusing on kino is more powerful than kissing -- https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/kino-over-kissing and How you can use kiss-denial to increase your odds of getting laid -- https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/kiss-denial-get-more-than-a-ki…
/r/seduction01/10/14 07:26 PM
1

Here's an article my partner wrote on small talk ... https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-secret-to-small-talk-identity-statements
/r/seduction01/10/14 05:29 PM
1

you can't avoid all risk ... just gotta take on some risk.
/r/seduction01/10/14 05:08 PM
1

4 days is a very short time to string along a girl you are having sex with .. should be a total non issue .. you can even say you have a friend in town...
/r/seduction01/10/14 05:02 PM
1

Look. Women rarely ever outright reject men. It's annoying, but it's a fact of life you have to come to terms with. What happened here, unfortunately, is that she was not attracted to your pictures and so she wasn't interested in you anymore. It happens to all of us, including good looking men. You could also have run into what I like to call a "butterflier" -- the type of girl who has a fairytale image of a man and if you don't fit that image just a little bit she is no longer interested. I wro…
/r/seduction01/10/14 01:32 PM
1

it's in the article.. but the basic idea is there are 3 corners ... 'companion on the bottom left, lover at the top, and provider in the bottom right.
/r/seduction01/10/14 12:51 PM
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One mistake many men make with making out is being too aggressive. Since aggression works in a lot of areas of game, they assume it's the way to kiss every girl. Instead, let her lead initially and focus on vibing with her and using what she does to figure out what she likes. Here's an excerpt from an article of mine on this point: "A common mistake almost all bad kissers make is that they are much too aggressive. The vast majority of woman will indicate how they like to be kissed by the way the…
/r/seduction01/10/14 12:15 PM
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This is done to illustrate a very important point in the article; what I think is one of the best takeaways and why I like this article so much, and that point is that going from lover to whatever else you want (especially boyfriend) is easy, but going from companion straight to boyfriend is very difficult. When it comes to provider it's trickier and we are writing about some exceptions where providers can and are very successful turning into lovers. However, again, this isn't really the common …
/r/seduction01/10/14 12:13 PM
1

Thanks.. we are looking into it....
/r/seduction01/10/14 11:59 AM
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There are what we call 'super providers' which we are going to write about. The idea, in the context of the triangle, is to imagine a circle centered at the provider corner .. if the radius is big enough, it starts to encompass other parts of the circle ... so yes, guys who are "super providers" but not much else (a rich old billionaire would be the extreme case of this) can still get laid, a lot. I will point out; however, that what women in the field tell you and how they actually behave is of…
/r/seduction30/09/14 09:24 PM
6

What's the purpose of ejecting 'smoothly'? Just tell them you have to head back to your friends or whatever so it doesn't look like you got totally blown out but it doesn't matter that much.
/r/seduction30/09/14 08:26 PM
5

weird... I couldn't reproduce this error on any browser...
/r/seduction30/09/14 07:27 PM
2

Don't hate the game... Tinder and all forms of online dating are great ways to supplement your sex, dating, and relationship life.. and can even be exclusively depended on if you want.
/r/seduction30/09/14 06:24 PM
4

My place.
/r/seduction30/09/14 12:42 PM
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don't do this.
/r/seduction29/09/14 04:21 PM
4

The short answer is, you don't bring it up: Here's the long answer: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-not-to-do-friends-with-benefits
/r/seduction29/09/14 02:31 PM
1

Mostly to prevent guys who are overeager from being like Mike in Swingers, that's all. It isn't a rule and I don't use it. Basically it just means, don't act desperate, overeager, and needy.
/r/seduction29/09/14 02:14 PM
5

Some thoughts: (1) It takes experience to close, and the more you do it, the better you will become at it. So yes, it will help your game with all women. (2) Get off your high horse: you are not god's gift to women that the second you sleep with someone she will be all over you and attached and commit suicide when you don't see her again.
/r/seduction29/09/14 02:13 PM
5

It's always different, but in general, you will know relatively early on (like the first interaction)
/r/seduction29/09/14 12:30 AM
2

There's a difference between having sex with women you are not attracted to and having sex with women who are not attractive on the 1-10 scale but you want to have sex with/think will be a fun lay. BIG DIFFERENCE.
/r/seduction28/09/14 04:07 PM
1

https://www.joshsway.com/articles/search/oneitis -- I write a bunch about these problems. You are basically in the oneitis Death Trap: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-oneitis-death-trap
/r/seduction27/09/14 04:04 PM
4

Very high success rate except for POF which is by far the shittest dating site on earth.
/r/seduction26/09/14 02:25 PM
3

This question gets asked all the time ... I wrote an article about it here: 6 tricks to get her back to your place (only trick number 2 involves the guitar :) https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-tricks-to-get-her-back-to-your-place
/r/seduction26/09/14 02:18 PM
1

rob judge/bobby rios magnetic messaging is a great texting guide.. i recommend it...
/r/seduction25/09/14 06:22 PM
1

The key here believe it or not is no sex. I know it makes no sense, but going "all the way" makes a major difference in whether or not you will see her again. I've gotten several bj's from girls and then couldn't see them again .. with sex, that almost never happens.
/r/seduction25/09/14 06:20 PM
3

You handled it right. You should almost never agree to this kind of crap.
/r/seduction25/09/14 03:54 PM
3

I'm in your boat. I'm 5'8", average looking, and bald. There is no "one secret" but there are a a lot of little "secrets". For example: (1) Work out. This has turned me from a guy who is short but not "small". It helps. (2) Meet women in situations where you aren't competing with as many men. For example online dating, less crowded bars/lounges, charity events, house parties, etc. (3) Use social proof. If you are going out to a club, don't just go out alone and be the little ugly guy creeping on…
/r/seduction20/09/14 12:27 PM
5

No, not really. Facebook game is mostly just a marketing gimmick and is actually an extremely low percentage form of game (I'm talking about random facebook stalking, not people you know). This is coming from someone who as many of you know is a huge advocate of online game.
/r/seduction17/09/14 08:05 PM
1

You are putting her on a pedestal. You have to just go talk to her. Comment about something in class, that's an easy opener. Or comment on some dumb sticker she has on her laptop, who even cares, just say something!
/r/seduction17/09/14 03:35 PM
2

I move them around a lot and use them to do a lot of kino in general... but other than kino im not sure the rest matters so much .. though I think pockets isnt great
/r/seduction17/09/14 03:34 PM
1

Your approach is fine; most likely, a lot of those you match with just aren't actually interested in meeting, or you chat way too much before asking them out.
/r/seduction16/09/14 04:16 PM
14

Not a bad response but honestly, LJBF is usually just her saying "not interested". Most responses won't really change the outcome here. In general (not always, but usually) she doesn't literally mean let's be friends, she is just saying she isn't interested.
/r/seduction14/09/14 11:33 PM
2

To be fair to my answer I did suggest drinking more slowly, not feeling the need to have a drink in your hand at all times, and to potentially seek professional help .... not just "stop drinking so much"
/r/seduction14/09/14 11:32 PM
1

It doesn't actually matter.
/r/seduction14/09/14 07:09 PM
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Yea, don't fucking drink too much. Seriously? Drink slower, don't feel you have to be holding a drink the whole time, and I mean, just don't drink as much. If you cannot figure out how to drink less you may need some professional assistance you are unlikely to get here to be honest.
/r/seduction14/09/14 07:08 PM
1

I gotta think more women like your size than are leery of it. I don't think you should dress down. As for acting more casual, it's tough to say. You may increase your chances with some small % of women who are uncomfortable around a guy your size but it will come at a cost of (I suspect many more) women who like your size and alpha behavior.
/r/seduction12/09/14 08:10 PM
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"One final note: Almost any advice. I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in casual sex, so if that's your forté I will respectfully decline your advice." . This is a big reason why you fail. You are most likely moving way too slow and being way too asexual with women. Relationships rarely go relationship then sex, they almost always go sex then relationship.
/r/seduction12/09/14 08:05 PM
1

You don't have to say anything unless she brings it up. She is 19, why would you assume that she is looking for something serious?
/r/seduction12/09/14 08:03 PM
1

Many reasons, but often times they assume "LJBF" is "friendzoning" when in fact it is just rejection.
/r/seduction12/09/14 08:01 PM
2

It's one of the hardest things to do ... the best way is to try to avoid this situation happening by working towards isolation, position yourself properly so its harder for a guy to physically talk to your girl and the like. If a guy has better game than you or she happens to be more attracted to him it's going to be really hard to do anything about it, other than be a dick and sabotage the odds for both of you.
/r/seduction12/09/14 07:38 PM
3

It really depends, but in general, it will only be more painful for you to be her "gay best friend" if you try to keep the friendship despite being really into her romantically. There's a chance you'll still be friends after she rejects you (sorry, but in 99% of the cases, when it has gotten this far and taken this long, the result is rejection) but to me it sounds like you are hardly even good friends so I see no downside in making a move.
/r/seduction11/09/14 07:08 PM
3

Generally not worth bothering, unless you are getting signs of interest from them first.
/r/seduction11/09/14 06:50 PM
2

A lot of girls say stuff like this but don't mean it. Look up how to overcome LMR. One technique of many that I like to use is to sort of pull away and if they ask what is the matter saying something along the lines of: "I'm just disappointed that you aren't as comfortable with me as I am with you." However, there are many many techniques. Also, if you don't get sex on this "double header", consider rejecting her next suggestion at hanging out and playing harder to get. She needs to feel some ri…
/r/seduction11/09/14 06:30 PM
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You don't have to move the conversation sexual verbally... I sometimes do but usually I do it non-verbally. Here is the system I use most of the time (there are always exceptions): https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-3-modes-of-communication-and-how-to-use-them In terms of how to actually escalate sexually: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-escalate-on-a-date
/r/seduction11/09/14 05:37 PM
1

if she proposes it, it's usually fine. It probably means she likes you actually. But if you don't close, that could be an issue...
/r/seduction11/09/14 05:25 PM
1

You are fast developing oneitis and putting this girl on a pedestal based on very very little. You need to read this, I wrote it pretty much just for you: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/why-your-oneitis-is-not-special Once you've done that, and realized what is really going on here with your feelings, to answer your question about whether or not she is single. YOU DON'T FIND OUT. You just make your move. That's it.
/r/seduction11/09/14 05:19 PM
1

Stop worrying about why you can't get girls, and just keep trying to get them until you succeed. Eventually, you will.
/r/seduction10/09/14 07:57 PM
2

Only 1 if any is a shit test. 2 and 3 aren't shit tests they are signs of disinterest. Big ones. I either ignore the comment or pull a: "Wasn't paying attention, I don't care about height"
/r/seduction10/09/14 07:50 PM
1

You don't have to be at the top of your game all the time.
/r/seduction10/09/14 05:35 PM
1

basically this. I wrote a whole article about it: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/inner-game-is-learned-in-the-field
/r/seduction10/09/14 12:42 PM
7

I'd suggest renaming your blog if you want to be taken seriously by anyone out of high school....
/r/seduction07/09/14 01:06 PM
2

I like this. This is basically the "play to win" mentality or the "you have to risk losing her to get her" which is what guys should be doing but many as you pointed out do the opposite (play "not to lose" which ends up putting them in the friend zone.) However, another big mistake men make that my partner TVJ just wrote about is guys trying to go from companion (friendzone) to boyfriend ... as opposed to trying to go from companion to lover.. it has to do with what he calls Triangle Attraction …
/r/seduction06/09/14 04:04 PM
1

with different people at a different stage of the game.. its all about CONTEXT.
/r/seduction05/09/14 01:34 PM
1

There are a lot of good tips here, unfortunately, "starting strength" of seduction is still too long to describe in a simple post. However, the basic model of seduction is that women are attracted to men that are of high value. So there's basically three things you should work on (and you should work on them simultaneously, not just 1 and then the next)... (1) Add to your value (gym, social skills, circle of friends, activities, money, etc.) (2) Show women your value (e.g. approach women, go out…
/r/seduction04/09/14 08:41 PM
1

Yea, I guess it's possible... but for most people, it's simply not worth the risk. Attracting over text is very difficult; most of the time, you'll just appear needy and annoying. Better to just focus on logistics.
/r/seduction04/09/14 08:30 PM
4

For me pick up is about meeting women. Some of what I learned translate to other elements of my life but my goal with it is to get women. Self improvement is about every aspect of my life, including meeting women.
/r/seduction04/09/14 07:04 PM
1

Was completely clueless borderline autistic until college.. I am still constantly improving but I would say by far the bulk was done in college .. so call it 3-4 years of work .. I am 32 now.
/r/seduction04/09/14 07:01 PM
1

Wait you have a girl in your bedroom and you don't know how to escalate? Your problem is not that you don't know how, it's some sort of weird fear of failure you have going on. You don't have to escalate verbally in these situations, you just go in and kiss her and go from there. You are WAAAY overthinking, and you are talking WAAAY too much in situations where your actions should be doing the talking, not your voice.
/r/seduction04/09/14 05:45 PM
2

Text for logistical purposes, not to try to build attraction. Basically, you should be texting to arrange dates. Text her something to get on her radar, then suggest meeting up.
/r/seduction04/09/14 03:39 PM
1

Have you tried online dating? If you haven't and your key goal at this stage is to just get laid (which is fine, it can work as a major confidence booster to help improve your overall game) I highly suggest you try it.
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:17 PM
1

I don't necessarily disagree with much of any of this; however I think maybe you guys are thinking about "disclosure" at a much further stage in the dating process than I am writing about. Or it is my fault for not putting more emphasis on the context of my article being in the early stages of a sexual relationship. I've seen a lot of good arguments here but I still stand by my advice that there is little to no reason to volunteer this information without being prompted, though I admit I should …
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:15 PM
1

Feel free to question whatever you'd like. No advice when it comes to dating (other than true basics like kino, eye contact) is 100% applicable in all situations, but I stand by this advice, and in the context of the common seddit question and context of (how do I tell her I just want a FwB relationship often times before there was even any sex or intimacy) I most definitely stand by it.
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:10 PM
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I agree building attraction is impossible over text; however, that's not the point of texting.. the point is to arrange a meeting.
/r/seduction03/09/14 11:41 PM
1

quite the contrary; it is telling women you don't want anything but physical that sends that message to them.
/r/seduction03/09/14 11:40 PM
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Each way has its pluses and minuses. I generally prefer texting. Here I wrote about 7 reasons I like to text versus call: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/7-reasons-to-text-versus-call
/r/seduction03/09/14 11:00 PM
1

never been a fan of central park dates simply because too often they have to be done during the day, and light makes romance much harder for some reason. (Or maybe darkness makes it much easier)
/r/seduction03/09/14 07:55 PM
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I don't disagree with much of what you are saying (other than most people going out dating are looking for their "the one", that may be true in the broad context of dating, but NOT on any particular date) but there is a difference between honesty and volunteering information about exactly what you want in a relationship without being prompted (and especially before you even become intimate). The former is fine, the latter only costs men relationships, including the type that would have been ok w…
/r/seduction03/09/14 07:52 PM
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Not volunteering information off the bat and conning someone are two entirely different things. If a girl does not ask/question but just blindly makes the assumption that if a guy sleeps with her he must want to be in a serious relationship, that is frankly crazy, or maybe something that happens when girls are 18 years old. If she makes it clear to you she isn't looking for something casual then as I mentioned in the closing paragraph I absolutely recommend volunteering the information. And as y…
/r/seduction03/09/14 07:18 PM
0

Avoid the subject, wear long sleeves, etc. If you are forced to answer, answer as quickly and concisely as possible and move on.
/r/seduction03/09/14 06:50 PM
1

Your answer is a typical one from many women who assume that women should be exposed to no emotional risk whatsoever in dating. I get that from a woman's point of view this is desirable, but it comes at too huge a cost for the men (which are my target audience). Dating comes with emotional risk, and for men to significantly reduce their odds of getting what they want to be 100% open as opposed to simply not bringing something up before sex (mostly guys aren't even prompted for this) makes little…
/r/seduction03/09/14 06:31 PM
2

So all the girls you date automatically assume you are looking for a long term relationship if you sleep with them and don't say anything about what you are looking for? That sounds nuts to me, to be honest.
/r/seduction03/09/14 06:28 PM
0

I suggested that you should answer if explicitly asked. I just haven't found value in volunteering the information; quite the contrary, I have found a lot of negative value, ironically, mostly with girls who are OK with just being FwB.
/r/seduction03/09/14 06:25 PM
5

I don't disagree with this, but I think many of the responses including this one significantly underestimate the turn off of verbally communicating a purely sexual interest, especially if done before sex.
/r/seduction03/09/14 05:27 PM
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I used to be of this school of thought, until I started to realize I was offending much more women and acting like much more of a douche assuming that I was so unbelievably amazing that I had to let her know I wasn't interested in a relationship so she wouldn't jump off a bridge if I didn't call her later.
/r/seduction03/09/14 05:26 PM
3

Well, nowadays, I only bring it up when they ask, but when I had done it, I would say at various times, and usually the result was worse the earlier it went on. I most definitely have never succeeded with any girl who I told before we actually had sex, so I stopped doing that quite quickly.
/r/seduction03/09/14 05:12 PM
5

That's admirable and reasonable, but the two are hardly mutually exclusive. You can be into someone to date but still not be ready to be exclusive.
/r/seduction03/09/14 05:08 PM
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Interesting, I am surprised you managed to continue to see women after that. In my experience being that upfront caused girls to be offended and insulted and often times get the: "What makes you think I wanted anything serious right now? But now that I know what you think of me..."
/r/seduction03/09/14 05:07 PM
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It is most definitely very wrong advice, but I generally get so much flack for saying that here that I have just given up trying to convince people about it... I don't agree coffee is a good first date though; its rarely romantic/usually too platonic. Drinks is great, and honestly, I even do dinner sometimes, but I'm fortunately at a place in my life where the cost of a date whether it's dinner or drinks isn't really significant to me.
/r/seduction03/09/14 02:59 PM
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NOT PAYING FOR FIRST DATES has been BY FAR AND AWAY the most ineffective and horrible advice I have ever gotten.
/r/seduction03/09/14 02:36 PM
1

It takes practice, real life practice. I wrote about this issue: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/martial-arts-and-dating-advice
/r/seduction03/09/14 02:32 PM
4

I see a lot of guys asking about this issue and confusing being totally open and honest with volunteering too much information. I wrote this article to address the many reasons why you should not tell women you just want to use them for sex and how the most common outcome of this is losing out on women who would OTHERWISE BE OK WITH IT and not 'sparing women emotional pain'.
/r/seduction03/09/14 01:44 PM
1

girls cheat due to various circumstances and various situations ... whether or not she cheated with you doesn't mean she will necessarily cheat on you .. but my advice, as hard as it may be, is to try very hard not to find out regardless...
/r/seduction02/09/14 07:29 PM
2

Girls throw themselves at your friend because he is very attractive it sounds like, not because he is a 'good time charlie' or whatever regardless of the reasons they told you. This happens, a lot of times girls will throw themselves at guys who have nothing going for them but extremely good looks. It is not a reflection on you or your game. The way to create this type of effect without being extremely good looking is to "Value overload". This effect occurs (where girls just throw themselves at …
/r/seduction02/09/14 07:22 PM
1

yes, of course he would have to spin the money in a way that isn't "I'm a deadbeat loser who ran into some money"
/r/seduction02/09/14 03:40 PM
1

Try it out ... I tried htem years ago and surprisingly didn't notice a difference (I'm 5'8")
/r/seduction02/09/14 01:43 PM
0

There's nothing wrong with someone being into you for money. Money is a sign of power and success, and it is often THOSE features that turn a woman on, not the actual $s. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-gold-digger-myth and here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/money-and-power-work
/r/seduction02/09/14 12:33 PM
2

Take advantage of the fact you have a safety net to get inspired to do other things. Ever had a dream to start some sort of company etc? Do it! Think about getting into high value professions/businesses if you care mostly about just getting chicks versus anything else. I can't speak to the (very large I assume) challenges of being in a wheelchair, but I can speak to using a financial safety net to be able to massively increase your value in other ways.
/r/seduction02/09/14 12:32 PM
1

Short messages. For regular online dating, a message that relates to their profile followed by a question (any question) and then no matter what they ask/respond more or less I answer them and go into a Let's get together sometime. Don't worry about transitions in online dating messaging, they don't matter.
/r/seduction01/09/14 11:39 PM
1

Eh .. 9 is quite high ... on Tinder maybe you need a little more than usual but still 9 is on the high end. On regular online dating 2-3 from you is all it takes with most women. On Tinder maybe 3-5.
/r/seduction01/09/14 09:23 PM
4

bars, clubs, lounges, online
/r/seduction01/09/14 03:41 PM
1

Mybestface doesn't work ... https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-using-okcupids-mybestface .. the boost feature is a better way to judge (but it cost $2) ... Lots of the other stuff in here is good though.
/r/seduction01/09/14 03:38 PM
2

Your own place.
/r/seduction31/08/14 01:03 PM
1

what do you have going for you? List out the reasons you think girls should want to be with you and then how you demonstrate/show those attributes to women. Then we can more easily figure out what's wrong.
/r/seduction30/08/14 07:39 PM
1

Your texts were really beta man.... you were really needy sounding after just one night (I assume you actually had sex right not just fooled around?) You can still salvage this though (provided you had sex) but play it cool ... don't tell her what an amazing time you had and teller about her glistening sunlight or some other creepy stuff.. that stuff is for relationships and movies, not seduction. Get the girl first, and to get the girl, you've got to be COOL. Note cool doesn't mean blow her off…
/r/seduction29/08/14 08:35 PM
1

This. I just posted basically this response before I saw this answer... 100% agree.
/r/seduction29/08/14 02:20 PM
3

I am regularly told I am a very good kisser. I didn't read any tips ever or anything like that. I just "did it" the first time and I was always quite good at it apparently. Here is the main secret: ADJUST TO THE WOMAN. Unlike many aspects of pickup where being aggressive and leading is the key, with kissing this is often NOT the way to go. Let her lead and you will quickly be able to figure out what she wants/likes.
/r/seduction29/08/14 02:19 PM
9

You look fine. How many times are you going to ask the same question here???
/r/seduction28/08/14 05:46 PM
1

initially, the same.
/r/seduction28/08/14 04:55 PM
2

Here we go again, guys bitching about having one of the most attractive traits to women out there (height). You have nothing to worry about, all the things you describe are to your advantage, including with smaller girls. As MetaWiz said, if I were 6'5", dude, I wouldn't even need to own pants.
/r/seduction28/08/14 12:37 PM
2

Yea I guess if they do you don't have much choice... though I generally just tell them that height doesn't matter to me and try to move on... your way def sounds like it could work though, I'll try it sometime.
/r/seduction26/08/14 10:37 PM
7

Interesting. I wrote about this issue here, and I have found that for me, completely ignoring height/not bringing it up at all has worked the best: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/dating-taller-women
/r/seduction26/08/14 08:13 PM
1

Yes. But so does almost every trait a woman has. This is why calibration is so important.
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:39 PM
1

You've got to make a choice. It's that simple. If you feel so bad that it isn't worth it to sleep with girls you don't genuinely think you will fall in love with then don't do it. Otherwise, you have to accept that you'll feel bad when the interest level doesn't align. By the way, interest level rarely aligns perfectly in real life.
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:22 PM
1

Most definitely do not date someone because you feel bad.
/r/seduction26/08/14 03:14 PM
1

Kino.
/r/seduction26/08/14 02:36 PM
1

There's seduction and then there is dating ... seduction is kind of like the courtship phase, and it's mostly about getting girls. keeping girls is different. I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/courtship-versus-dating
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:27 PM
10

Your problem is putting the pussy on a pedestal, as they say in the 40 year old virgin.
/r/seduction25/08/14 01:45 PM
2

Irrelevant. Once they are there you should be closing. In college my dorms/frat house/etc. were disgusting but it didn't matter at all.
/r/seduction25/08/14 01:42 PM
3

you are just wasting your time in most situations ....
/r/seduction24/08/14 11:51 PM
2

Here's an article about this issue ... https://www.joshsway.com/articles/search/remember-her-name ... my favorite solution is to just use their name a lot to remember it.
/r/seduction24/08/14 09:51 PM
1

Be careful about trying to play them all at once... at this stage it looks like you have your pick, so just pick one (though I'd go with one of the very heavy IOI girls) and then worry about trying to get the others.
/r/seduction24/08/14 09:49 PM
1

I wrote about this here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/attraction-is-an-anchor This is actually a more difficult question to answer than the answers here make it out to be. It really depends a lot on the situation. There are generally two ways to play this: one way is to flirt equally and then see which girl gives you the most attention/demonstrates the most interest. HOWEVER, if you do not see obvious signs of interest from one of the girls early on, you most likely must choose.
/r/seduction24/08/14 03:33 PM
5

Spend $50 or so at a high end salon one time to get a good haircut and then just ask future people to replicate it.
/r/seduction24/08/14 12:03 PM
3

The biggest tip I can give you here is: Don't do anything out of the ordinary. Go with what works for you with other women. Most guys game girls they really like differently and it almost always costs them.
/r/seduction23/08/14 03:22 PM
2

Dealing with the AMOG. I am still working on this part of my game as I think it is the most challenging part of live pick up, but the key for me was to start confronting the situation head on instead of moving on to easier fish.
/r/seduction23/08/14 03:19 AM
14

Just move on without saying anything. No need to go out "on top" whatever that even means in this situation. Any response like you propose doesn't really accomplish anything. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/girls-lie-sometimes-dont-call-them-out
/r/seduction23/08/14 03:18 AM
1

this is kinda disturbing, not gonna lie
/r/seduction22/08/14 05:00 PM
2

Hardly necessary and the book is probably way over the top of what even approaches ok with someone who isn't a serious girlfriend (and even then...) Sex is way simpler than this for most women: talk dirty and don't be afraid of just asking them what they like/want in a dirty way. EDIT: and I should add do not underestimate foreplay .... usually, longer than you think...
/r/seduction22/08/14 11:43 AM
1

I agree 100% you can improve inner game in the field ... I wrote a whole article about how I thought inner game was best learned in the field. However, I believe the way your inner game improves in the field isn't by "practicing inner game" but by going out and taking concrete steps to achieve results (outer game) and as success grows, your inner game naturally improves.
/r/seduction22/08/14 11:40 AM
1

Most dating, sex, and seduction products are marketed in a very scammy "too good to be true" way... no, there are no crazy "weird tricks" etc., but it doesn't mean these products are not good products.
/r/seduction21/08/14 10:04 PM
2

I actually disagree inner game. You need to work on your OUTER game.. i.e. IN FIELD PRACTICE. This is exactly like martial arts training: in class with a complying partner you have a library of 20 moves you can nail down pat. Now suddenly when you spar, you find that you are only using 3-4 moves. This is NORMAL. It happens to everyone: the real life situation is different. Drilling the REAL LIFE situation is how you can slowly increase the 3-4 moves that come to you in real life to 5 or 6, or 7,…
/r/seduction21/08/14 08:24 PM
2

32.
/r/seduction21/08/14 02:48 PM
52

baby steps, and stop accepting that you are 'shy'. Shy is unattractive, period. Don't accept being shy, put in effort to not be shy. Not all at once, but take small steps. For example, start with as little as looking back at a girl checking you out and smiling. From there add in "Hi" once you are comfortable with the first step. From there, add in: "Hey, how's it going, I'm Josh", etc. And for fucks sake stop playing armchair psychiatrist with yourself; your past or whatever the reason is not im…
/r/seduction21/08/14 12:48 PM
1

Too rich? Dude. Rich is a DHV, it is almost never a turn off to girls. You are doing something majorly wrong (or girls are lying to you) about you being "too rich" as a reason they aren't interested in you. It's more likely you are giving off a snobby vibe, which is a turn off, but being rich is a GOOD thing for women, actually, it's a great thing, one of the most powerful things there is. Most likely, you are bragging about it too much instead of bringing up your money indirectly. Edit: And I j…
/r/seduction21/08/14 12:33 PM
22

"Thanks! You have good taste" with a smile... Or compliment them back on something in a joking matter ... like to their glasses, I would respond, "I like your dress, I have the same one in pink" or something of the sort. You don't need her to be wearing anything interesting to compliment her on.
/r/seduction20/08/14 08:10 PM
1

I don't think what you are experiencing is anything out of the ordinary. Day game is much more difficult than night game in my opinion, for some of the reasons you mention, but also for many more. I wrote about it in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/day-game-is-hard
/r/seduction20/08/14 12:56 PM
1

Politics, Religion, and Health Issues :) Just kidding of course. The topics are not as important as how you talk about them.
/r/seduction20/08/14 02:27 AM
1

Yea, this is a bad picture. Focus mostly on your face. I don't agree with smile, most research shows you should NOT smile and not look directly at the camera. I have experimented a decent amount with Tinder pictures and if you have a decent looking face which you do, face focus seems to be the most effective. (I tried my face only, an 'action' pic, a pic of me with a six pack and basically '10' body, and face only trumps all, even a face only pic of me where it is clear I am losing my hair)
/r/seduction20/08/14 02:25 AM
1

Different strokes for different folks. Just because experts say something doesn't mean it is the best approach for you. Game is all about mixing and matching advice and experimenting for yourself. I write about this a lot on my site actually, for example: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/experiment-with-philosophies
/r/seduction20/08/14 02:23 AM
2

Not sure how you got that from what I wrote. I am suggesting that the person deathly afraid of water should try to put their toe in the water, not jump in and swim. This is pretty much isomorphic to my arachnophobia example where one would start with looking at a cartoon picture of a spider. I've also written numerous "intermediate step" articles on my site about approach anxiety and other issues. My view was simply that this writing is not even an intermediate step and a step that might encoura…
/r/seduction20/08/14 02:17 AM
0

I understand what you are saying and I agree 100% about "just do it" advice. I even wrote about how meaningless "just do it" is without context. But at the end of the day, "Just Do it" IS what you need to do. The "IT" is what needs to be simplified until one can do it. This is why I purposefully gave the example of just going out of the house and not even approaching a woman. That is a 'baby step' that is still "just doing it". Just like in your example, of course you do not jump into a pit of s…
/r/seduction19/08/14 09:06 PM
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I don't get it. I just don't. Flame away, but this is a total waste of time in my opinion and yet another excuse to do something OTHER THAN GOING OUT AND TRYING. You don't have to bag a movie star when you go out, but nothing cures anxieties and phobias like exposure therapy. Just go out and do it. Make your goal getting out of the house if talking to a girl is too much. Make it make eye contact with one girl to start until you are more comfortable. But at least get out of the house and go do so…
/r/seduction19/08/14 08:18 PM
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Kino? I wrote an article about how I escalate on a date here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-escalate-on-a-date
/r/seduction19/08/14 08:04 PM
1

Definitely internet.
/r/seduction19/08/14 06:34 PM
1

been going bald for 10 years... its noticeable but not shaved down yet ... hasn't had an impact yet but I plan on shaving it down in a couple weeks and I'll let you know ... In general, I would say that it likely hurts game but not nearly as much as most guys think.
/r/seduction19/08/14 06:32 PM
1

My general definition is, if one of you thinks its a date (or has romantic feelings for the other) then it's a date.
/r/seduction19/08/14 06:14 PM
1

this blast approach works but its much less efficient than just doing regular online dating.
/r/seduction18/08/14 06:21 PM
1

Repetition. I liken it to martial arts... you learn the technique, then you drill the technique, then you live spar and learn to use the technique in a real life situation. Game is somewhat similar: learn technique, drill technique (e.g. go out with a goal to say, open 10 women, use XYZ opener on 10 women, etc.) and then "spar" which would be going on a date or going out with the purpose of seducing not trying particular technique. I just wrote about this today actually in detail on my site: htt…
/r/seduction18/08/14 05:45 PM
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Most likely it's because you are being creepy and staring without doing anything else. If you are going to look, follow it up with some action.
/r/seduction18/08/14 05:08 PM
1

Being out with good looking guys gives you social proof. It's going to be hard to get the 'hot girl of the group' if she initially only approached or talked to you because of your good looking friends, but the added social proof boost should get you in with hotter overall groups and in the end, probably help you get girls.
/r/seduction18/08/14 02:09 AM
1

Depends on context... from my non white friends and research/experimentation on this matter w/online dating, it definitely matters, but I wouldn't say it is necessarily a major part, but it depends.
/r/seduction18/08/14 02:07 AM
1

Are you kidding me? I never even kissed a girl in HS and now..... High School for me had ZERO correlation to my current success. MY game completely changed. Seriously, HS is irrelevant in the grand scheme of your "game" life.. it's only 4 years and half that time you aren't even allowed to go see R rated movies!
/r/seduction16/08/14 02:07 PM
0

Sometimes there is nothing you can do, but I wrote a couple articles about these isolation issues: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/dealing-with-a-cockblock and https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/isolation-troubleshooting-tips Hope they help
/r/seduction15/08/14 06:10 PM
1

Shouldn't be a problem unless your roommates are really annoying assholes or you are 36 years old and still living with roommates.
/r/seduction14/08/14 05:20 PM
1

Becoming too boyfriendy too early is all I can think of, but honestly, it could just be randomness.
/r/seduction14/08/14 05:14 PM
1

Money helps, without a doubt. I've gamed with no money, with a little money, and while quite well off. Money makes it easier. However, a few things. One, $120,000, depending where you live isn't a crazy amount of money that you are going to be doing whatever you want all the time. What it should do is keep you comfortable enough that you can do what WORKS without having to worry about the cost of a cab, the cost of drinks or a meal, etc. That level of freedom is very helpful when it comes to dat…
/r/seduction14/08/14 05:03 PM
1

You're 17. It's probably just guys picking on you.
/r/seduction14/08/14 02:34 PM
15

Lol wut? If a woman is gaming me it means she wants me ... this is the ideal situation, all you have to do is not fuck up and you are gonna get her. Seems completely stupid to game her due to some poorly applied mantra.
/r/seduction14/08/14 01:47 PM
1

You are just afraid of rejection that is all. Worry about getting some kino vs a smooth transition or opportunity. Don't get me wrong, smooth transitions are nice, but they are far from necessary. Kino is most necessary. IF she is sitting next to you on a couch just put your arm around her, for example. You don't need a reason or excuse. And if you want more specific examples, I wrote about some here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-easy-ways-to-kino
/r/seduction14/08/14 12:41 PM
0

So what if you made changes to attract women? Do you want to attract women? I assume that you do if you are here. So basically, you changed around your lifestyle to get something that you want to get. How is this a bad thing?? And how is becoming better looking and more successful fooling anyone into thinking you are more valuable than you are? Those are both quite objective measures of value that you just increased. Stop taking all these random mantras and inner game shit in these books verbati…
/r/seduction14/08/14 12:39 PM
2

Yes, women are shallow but generally not as shallow as men. Two, yes, talk less online, as in, just arrange a meeting. Three, online dating is STILL by far the easiest way to get women.
/r/seduction14/08/14 12:35 PM
3

Someone asked this question recently. Regarding small talk, I linked to this recently but here it is again, it's an article my partner TVJ wrote about 'identity statements' and how you can use them to turn small talk into "medium talk" https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-secret-to-small-talk-identity-statements I also specifically address the interview situation in an article about how "just asking questions" is sub-optimal: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/no-you-cant-just-ask-ques…
/r/seduction13/08/14 07:25 PM
1

I just start ignoring them. Honestly, I have tried all the different ways, and the reason most people ignore in my opinion is because it works the best. EDIT: I will also add that this is a good approach as well because it allows you to more easily rekindle things if you change your mind. (You leave yourself open to make up some story later on why you dropped off the face of the earth). I have hooked up with many girls that I just started ignoring for a long time (months sometimes years!). I hav…
/r/seduction13/08/14 07:12 PM
1

Your problem is not that absurd thought. Your problem is simply approach anxiety and fear of rejection. Most approach anxiety/fear of rejection boils down to some dumb illogical thought. This is a normal fear, you aren't special or different than most guys. Just go do it, and if you can't do it right away, start with smaller steps.
/r/seduction13/08/14 06:16 PM
0

Stop worrying about transitions .. but fyi, facebook is very low percentage game. https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/conversation-tip-stop-worrying-about-transitions
/r/seduction13/08/14 06:12 PM
1

Unlikely you get dropped as much as you think even if you disclose afterwards...
/r/seduction13/08/14 03:13 PM
5

First of all.. what you don't want is to not be a creep. Being a 'player' will not hurt you. Being the creepy guy who goes around hitting on everyone and getting rejected a lot WILL hurt you. Focus on success with women. Guys who are successful with women are attractive, period.
/r/seduction13/08/14 02:00 PM
1

No point bringing it up until you have to. Unless you want to reduce your odds of getting girls by a ton.
/r/seduction13/08/14 01:16 PM
1

You look for "IOIs". I write a lot about IOIs: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/search/ioi
/r/seduction13/08/14 01:15 PM
2

In general, I would say numbers are an incidental event that occurs during seduction, not the goal of seduction. In terms of flaking, I wrote about how to lower the flaking odds here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-prevent-her-from-flaking
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:52 PM
1

most likely a fake story and even if not, what's the point as others' have said? Some guys are good looking and have strong natural game and they get laid easily if they are just aggressive. Big deal.
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:50 PM
1

This date makes it logistically much more of a pain in the ass to close than the very easy solutions of 'date at your place'. So yes, it does affect your game if you are trying to close. This is a fun date idea for a girlfriend, a girl you have already closed etc. Agree to disagree I guess.
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:32 PM
3

eye contact and kino .. I rarely verbalize kino as UASHIT said, I just do it, but either way is fine.
/r/seduction12/08/14 06:06 PM
1

maybe maybe maybe maybe there are always exceptions; my advice is geared towards (what I suspect is the vast majority of people on this subreddit) those who are trying to close.
/r/seduction12/08/14 04:35 PM
11

I posted this before here but I'll post it again .. I wrote an article about exactly this: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-escalate-on-a-date
/r/seduction12/08/14 03:31 PM
5

It is a terrible question. You ask like this: "How about XYZ bar on Wednesday at 8pm"
/r/seduction12/08/14 02:03 PM
2

Nah, the reason is it is a total waste of time for a 2nd or 3rd date.. you should be thinking about closing, not bouncing around from venue to venue like an idiot. Arrange a date at your place or with a plan to get back to your place.
/r/seduction12/08/14 12:42 PM
5

Your second or third date should be at your place. This is a crap idea for courtship no offense. If you are in a relationship, different story.
/r/seduction12/08/14 12:41 PM
1

Making her feel like the most important person in the world is one of the many things that works IF SHE LIKES YOU ALREADY. Attract before all this stuff.
/r/seduction11/08/14 07:50 PM
1

need more detail on the situation but if you are on a date, here is how I escalate: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-escalate-on-a-date
/r/seduction11/08/14 05:13 PM
7

Always be escalating. Simple.
/r/seduction11/08/14 02:53 PM
1

Eh, the bigger factor is the sheer number of people in such close quarters I think.
/r/seduction10/08/14 10:52 PM
2

No. I've lived in small and now the largest in the US and larger is much much easier. Like, MUCH easier, at least for me.
/r/seduction10/08/14 03:44 PM
1

Delay it as much as you can ...
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:51 PM
1

get the tooth colored ones to start...i actually dont think this will make a huge difference if you get the tooth colored ...
/r/seduction08/08/14 05:43 PM
3

Shit happens. Just go out and try again.
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:57 PM
1

It's never too late. Period.
/r/seduction08/08/14 12:44 PM
3

Celebrity game advice is irrelevant to most of us here.
/r/seduction08/08/14 12:44 PM
4

If you feel like you want to hook up with them .. go for it. It will only help your game to get experience. Without experience with successful seduction you are unlikely to be able to seduce the girl of your dreams. Also, why would you expect to go from a fat 20 year old virgin (no offense, just using your words :) to a guy who can bang high quality women without any practice or experience?
/r/seduction07/08/14 09:07 PM
2

In general, you don't. But in a no sex before marriage you just tell her that this won't work for you.
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:52 PM
1

Make a left out the door to grab a cab...
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:42 PM
1

calling her out playfully is of course better than calling her out in another way, but most girls 'get it' and see through that. Calling a girl out because she isn't giving you the level of attention you want especially when it's just over text is kind of needy and in my opinion, just not worth the risk of appearing needy given limited benefits. What is the actual benefit of calling her out?
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:21 PM
7

Um what? Nightgame is probably the most effective form of game for most men other than online dating.
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:11 PM
1

Disagree with this advice. Calling out girls generally does not accomplish anything of substance other than make them feel awkward or uncomfortable. So now they feel obligated to text you more? But are you actually getting anything other than pointless text interactions? Probably not. The real problem also is why are you having long drawn out texting conversations in the first place. Text for logistics. The rest in person.
/r/seduction07/08/14 04:38 PM
1

I don't call, I just text to meet up.
/r/seduction07/08/14 04:36 PM
3

Good conversation isn't just about small talk, it's about actually having things to talk about. One technique you can use though is the concept of "Identity Statements" My partner TVJ wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-secret-to-small-talk-identity-statements This is a key way to turn small talk into engaging conversation.
/r/seduction07/08/14 02:05 PM
1

not this subreddit, but this community .. went from never kissing a girl until college to going on 200 lays if i had to guess? + wonderful relationships / improved social life / career / etc.
/r/seduction07/08/14 02:04 PM
1

A lot of the during the week is going out early or D2s. At least for me.
/r/seduction07/08/14 01:28 PM
1

online.
/r/seduction07/08/14 01:27 PM
2

it's mostly due to people making seduction a "hobby" by many: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/seduction-theory-makes-for-a-bad-hobby
/r/seduction07/08/14 12:33 PM
0

Yes tinder favors the very good looking. This should be obvious I would think, given the only info you really get without actively seeking out more info is a picture?
/r/seduction07/08/14 12:26 PM
3

Disagree. Your opinion is a very common one, but I disagree with it for several reasons one in particular which you may not be thinking about: Women, including those who just want FwB will be TURNED OFF by a guy telling them he is only interested in them for sex. This will cause many women who actually want to just be FWB to not want to see you at all anymore.
/r/seduction06/08/14 08:00 PM
0

the first step in every relationship if you want to maximize your odds of getting whatever is pursuing sex first. Sex makes women attached. From there you can make it as casual or serious as you want.
/r/seduction06/08/14 07:28 PM
2

throwing a party is a great idea but you (and your close friends you can trust) will have to really put in some effort to get girls to show up. They won't just magically appear.
/r/seduction06/08/14 07:06 PM
2

wtf?
/r/seduction06/08/14 07:02 PM
1

yea i hear you. I do brazilian jiu jitsu .. there are rarely women in the class.. but it's nice DHV material I use when meeting women.
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:20 PM
1

EDC/raves in general are not the best places for game; however, I always point to this guys dance floor game basics when it comes to dance floor game: http://www.theskillsmethod.com/fundamentals-of-club-game/
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:15 PM
2

I agree. No rule or concept or theory is really ironclad. In your case I agree that 'day game' can be quite effective. However, most people don't live in a surfing community :)
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:14 PM
1

C'mon man .. boxing should be a turn-on and a DHV .. the idea isn't to beat the shit out of your date with it!! Stop focusing on random mantras and start focusing on results. You will see that you will become 'outcome independent' if you actually go out there and focus on just getting more women. I wrote about this on my newsletter as well: https://www.joshsway.com/newsletter/view/stop-misinterpreting-outcome-independence/1c6c4a9a4f
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:13 PM
2

I wrote about it in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/day-game-is-hard but the major issues are motion (people during the day are usually going somewhere or doing something, not stationary at a venue like at night) and logistics.
/r/seduction06/08/14 05:57 PM
1

I don't focus so much on mantras and mental games and focus on actual actionable things, like going out and meeting more women! Not sure how to meet more women? Have you tried expanding your dating surface area? https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/expand-your-dating-surface-area
/r/seduction06/08/14 05:18 PM
0

There are significant differences, and in general, the benefits of night game heavily outweigh the benefits of daygame.
/r/seduction06/08/14 05:17 PM
10

yep. been having this "rule" in my place forever.
/r/seduction06/08/14 05:17 PM
2

Cmon man how many times do you have to post this and have a zillion people tell you you aren't bad looking and how good it is to be tall? Stop thinking about it and just go out and talk to women. Focus on the task you need to do, not how "you feel".
/r/seduction06/08/14 02:18 PM
2

It isn't an attractive quality. Some women may be slightly more turned on by it but many women will be totally turned off by it. Net net, smoking is a negative.
/r/seduction06/08/14 12:12 PM
1

thanks. glad you found it useful.
/r/seduction05/08/14 11:01 PM
1

The first thing I do is comment on how I don't like the 1-10 scale but sometimes it just makes things easy to describe. And this isn't a binary thing ... the more attractive the girl, OFTEN (not always, but often) the harder it is to get her, or even open her, due to the many reasons I described.
/r/seduction05/08/14 11:00 PM
3

It's not a 'comprehensive guide' but here is an article I wrote about the basics: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/7-wingman-basics
/r/seduction05/08/14 07:23 PM
5

I prefer to meet later in the evening as it is generally easier for things to be more sexual. In terms of meeting when you live at parents, I actually wrote a little about that here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-girls-while-living-at-home
/r/seduction05/08/14 06:41 PM
6

Seriously, just ask. If you want some ideas, here are a few that I like to use: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-tricks-to-get-her-back-to-your-place
/r/seduction05/08/14 05:30 PM
2

I wrote an article about exactly this: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-long-time-reconnect
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:40 PM
1

You don't even need the first half (for one it's only sometimes true) the second part is the key.
/r/seduction05/08/14 03:07 PM
-1

I disagree with most of the comments here. More attractive girls ARE more difficult to get. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-perfect-10s-the-differences, note especially points 4 and 5.
/r/seduction05/08/14 01:03 PM
3

Let the girl friend do the work unless the girl opens You.
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:38 PM
1

It is MOST WORTH learning seduction if you are average looking... But, that does not mean you shouldn't improve your physical appearance as best you can.
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:07 PM
5

Lol, it totally depends how you met the girl, but this can be a pretty horrible idea on a first date.
/r/seduction04/08/14 06:04 PM
2

Yes
/r/seduction04/08/14 02:53 PM
1

I don't know what /r/seduction thinks but most actual science shows it's all placebo/bs except for in the short term (the several hours after)
/r/seduction03/08/14 09:17 PM
2

Welcome man. I saw your posts and picture, you don't need to change much but your attitude to be honest. All your concerns are just in your head.
/r/seduction03/08/14 05:07 PM
2

https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/getting-girls-while-living-at-home, but really you should be planning logistically from the beginning by like, not going out 1hr away from a sex location to begin with!
/r/seduction03/08/14 05:06 PM
22

You didn't attract her enough, and you tried a cheesy line which shows lack of confidence. That's the real problem here, not how you handle the rejection afterwards. How you handled the rejection is fine .. just move on don't dwell on stuff like that.
/r/seduction03/08/14 05:04 PM
1

You are 6'3". /qed EDIT: and I saw your picture. Your looks are not what is holding you back at all. Plus man, you are young, only 19. you have a life ahead of you ... relax
/r/seduction02/08/14 06:22 PM
3

No, your height is not a burden. You have pretty much the biggest advantage a guy could have when it comes to dating other than being famous. Take advantage of it.
/r/seduction02/08/14 03:28 PM
1

i disagree with this... you shouldn't have to ask for a kiss it should be obvious you are getting it.
/r/seduction01/08/14 07:24 PM
1

hmm..this is unusual. Normally I've found it's easy to date girls you've slept with. Waiting a few days seems a bit much given you already slept together but I don't think that is really that substantive. I can't think of anything else going wrong without more details I guess.
/r/seduction01/08/14 07:16 PM
4

These girls you pick up for ONS are they girls you just have no interest in dating from the beginning or do you try to date them but it doesn't work, or do you have an issue with the fact they slept with you so soon (hopefully it's not the latter)
/r/seduction01/08/14 06:15 PM
1

Is this after you met her already? If it's days talking online than that is your problem... get to arranging a date as soon as possible. On traditional dating sites I suggest meeting up in 2-3 messages almost always. They are on there to meet guys in real life, not penpals!
/r/seduction01/08/14 05:23 PM
3

I wrote about this EXACT topic: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-escalate-on-a-date
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:49 PM
1

The secret to humor is the unexpected ... why do you think your stories are funny? If they don't have a significant 'element of surprise' then they are probably not funny.
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:26 PM
1

Usually close friends, both male and female, and the internet.
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:04 PM
1

'Hey how are you?" works fine. Though I prefer writing a one liner that relates to something in their about me or picture that is not a compliment. Another good one is: "Looks like we match... I see you have good taste ;)
/r/seduction01/08/14 11:51 AM
1

Tough situation but I think your best bet here is to play it cool even though it's tough. Ease your way into some 'relationship like' activities but don't say you want to be exclusive/more than just fuck buddies etc.
/r/seduction31/07/14 07:18 PM
1

Stop thinking, start doing. Another idea is to use 'baby-steps': https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-ways-to-combat-approach-anxiety
/r/seduction31/07/14 07:15 PM
3

you've struck seduction weird that's for sure.
/r/seduction31/07/14 07:13 PM
1

i haven't found it matters that much how you open. The more important thing is to get their number/get them out on a date as quickly as possible.
/r/seduction31/07/14 07:12 PM
1

This is not so surprising. Tinder is mostly about looks. After all, the only thing that a woman sees in the beginning is just one picture. She has to go through extra effort to actually read 3 lines or so about you or to look at other pictures, so while there is a chance a girl may click out of curiosity, the percentage is low. However, w/regular online dating looks matter less.
/r/seduction31/07/14 07:11 PM
2

actually never seen the show ... just what I've observed over the years
/r/seduction31/07/14 06:53 PM
0

You are way over thinking this. The key is to hang out where it is logistically easy to get her back to your place and then if the date is going well ask her to come hang out for a bit at your place at the end (I wrote an article in detail about how to get her to your place if you need more details: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-tricks-to-get-her-back-to-your-place). On the actual date, focus on Kino and eye contact.
/r/seduction31/07/14 06:32 PM
2

Somewhat agree on tinder. I agree it's mostly looks driven; however, you do need game to make sure you close when you meet. At the very least you need to know how to not fuck it up which is a skill in it's own right: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/not-screwing-up-is-a-skill Also what is your location? In NYC many people are using Tinder for legit dating purpose not just hookups. Actually, I would say at this stage, most are using it for that. Doesn't mean you can't hook up easily, but th…
/r/seduction31/07/14 03:20 PM
2

why is this any surprise at all? Tinder is purely Looks, or more like 90% looks, but still.. you don't even see the profile unless you specifically click to see it!! A much better study would be regular online dating where more people read profiles etc.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:22 PM
0

For the first one and the last one, online dating.
/r/seduction31/07/14 12:38 PM
2

small sample size and way too little details about this study. I'd say physical attraction was way too big a confounding factor as well. Sure, uncertainty helps (just like why things like gambling become so addictive), but don't kid yourself, the most powerful aphrodisiac of all is POWER.
/r/seduction31/07/14 12:37 PM
3

I think you are focusing on the elements of game that will not improve significantly from online dating but not focusing on elements of game that will. Sure, online dating won't help you learn how to deal with an AMOG, but it helps in many other ways. For instance, online dating gives you the opportunity to go on a large number of one on one dates. This is a very valuable learning ground: I see too many pick up artists who simply have no idea what to do after the first 10 minutes of talking to a…
/r/seduction31/07/14 12:32 PM
44

First of all nothing is wrong with meeting and banging women online. You are already well ahead of the game given many guys here don't bang any women anywhere. With that said, I understand what you are feeling. I am big into online dating and sometimes it's too easy to get sucked in and go on 5 dates a week given how easy it is to get laid and have a good time. However, this shouldn't be hurting your game outside of online, it should actually be improving it. I suggest just prioritizing going ou…
/r/seduction30/07/14 09:46 PM
3

these cartoon images suck and are all basically identical looking. Weak study in my opinion.
/r/seduction30/07/14 02:48 PM
1

Agree.
/r/seduction29/07/14 12:34 PM
5

Well, my view is that lifting/working out simply doesn't take that much time that it should interfere with any of those things you list.
/r/seduction28/07/14 07:31 PM
1

You should be happy they don't text often.. those are the best kind! Text for logistics, kick game in person.
/r/seduction28/07/14 06:55 PM
9

Looks do matter. This is just wishful thinking that looks do not matter. And yes, some fat guys get girls, but this is not logic. Just because you find one lucky fluke doesn't make that the typical reality, luck is not a strategy: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/luck-is-not-a-strategy
/r/seduction28/07/14 06:43 PM
11

here we go again... people trying to find excuses not to work out. Why is there such a huge aversion to working out? I can tell you for me personally, working out changed my life (going from a scrawny nerdy 130lbs looking guy to 175lbs with a six pack) across the board, not just with women. I personally think 6 months in the gym will probably get you further with women than 6 months "practicing game". Also, you may spend more time in the gym than it adds to your life, but your quality of life wi…
/r/seduction28/07/14 06:17 PM
1

Yea I mean I don't think the article implied what /u/bad_boyl2 was saying in his post.
/r/seduction28/07/14 06:15 PM
26

Not sure this is what the post said, but I have not found what you say about casual sex and hot women to be true AT ALL. Many hot women have casual sex a lot. We like to think they are looking for someone interesting and compatible, but a lot of hot women are actually quite shallow and will happily go home with some random hot guy at the bar, and they do it, often.
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:37 PM
1

The writing style kinda sucks but he does make a very good point about this. I think the real cause of this issue of is more of a defense mechanism for fear of rejection (e.g. if you go for 10s and get rejected its no big deal, but if you get rejected by a 6, it hurts). but it is a very good point never the less. Start sleeping with more women and you will also get more hotter women.
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:08 PM
3

You shouldn't be focusing on the kiss-close as it doesn't mean that much at the club. You should be trying to get more. Sometimes, shooting for more than a kiss close makes the kiss close come more easily.
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:04 PM
1

a better app is an app that prevents you from texting until a baseline amount of time has passed.
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:02 PM
2

oops.
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:10 PM
3

so you want to bake your cake and eat it also. Got it. I'd focus on the fwb first... just be honest about it if she calls you out on it, but most likely, she won't even bring it up. If she does just laugh it off and be like: "Yep, that was pretty embarrassing!" and change the subject.
/r/seduction23/07/14 02:21 PM
2

Are you trying to get the friend or maintain the fwb?
/r/seduction23/07/14 01:24 PM
3

Sending a text you're looking forward to tonight is ok because it is a good confirmation of the date as girls are very flakey. This is actually one of the few types of texts you SHOULD be sending (i.e. confirmation texts) The other type is logistical texts (e.g. lets meet at XYZ location). Save shooting the shit for real life.
/r/seduction22/07/14 04:33 PM
1

Totally different society etc.
/r/seduction22/07/14 02:47 PM
1

A lot of people disagree w/me, but I think the main problem you are having is simply that Day Game is not that easy a way to meet women. Try online dating or going out at night in NYC and you'll get laid more than you will anywhere else. Also, learning pick up from youtube videos is like learning how to have sex from porn.
/r/seduction21/07/14 12:34 PM
2

I actually wrote a couple articles about exactly this point: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/be-funny-not-goofy Here it is in full: While power is the most potent aphrodisiac of all, when it comes to the non-physical, humor is not far behind. Go online and look through a dozen women’s online dating profiles. What do they all have in common? A desire for a guy who can "make them laugh". Unfortunately, there is no universal definition of funny. You may think you are hilarious, but making yo…
/r/seduction21/07/14 12:30 PM
1

Why do you need a line? How about just put your arm around her and go from there?
/r/seduction21/07/14 12:29 PM
3

http://www.theskillsmethod.com has most of the basics right
/r/seduction18/07/14 06:26 PM
2

Kino is a must, as is pursuing continued escalation from one meeting to the next. For example, if you went for coffee day 1 during the day (i dont recommend this but whatever) make the next date drinks at night. If you did drinks at night and it went well, invite her over to "order in and watch a movie" or something. Always be escalating.
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:27 PM
2

great! that's the attitude you need. I used to make this mistake all the time ... being too passive with a girl that I really liked and failing when my more aggressive game has worked time and time again.
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:11 PM
15

what is the point of this post?
/r/seduction18/07/14 04:42 PM
6

Stop gaming her differently than you would any other girl "because she is a model". You are being way too passive and slow moving. Do you want her to think you are weak and insecure? Or do you want some other guy to swoop in before you've even made a move? Make a move already!
/r/seduction18/07/14 04:32 PM
1

for how long, a couple hours?
/r/seduction18/07/14 02:53 PM
2

nofap is pretty much scientifically proven to be bullshit. You may lose your sex drive temporarily but I'm talking hours, not anything long term.
/r/seduction18/07/14 02:18 PM
2

The first step for in establishing a FWB relationship is to have sex. Then you worry about the rest. The majority of women will not act kindly to you trying to make it obvious you want a FWB relationship EVEN if they actually want it. The reason is simple, it's unattractive and a turn off to basically tell a girl you only want her for sex.
/r/seduction18/07/14 01:20 PM
-1

I wouldn't say it is a waste of time, but it is much less effective than other forms of dating in my opinion. I actually just posted an article about this. I like to use Day Game to supplement, but not as a main source of meeting women: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/day-game-is-hard
/r/seduction18/07/14 12:57 PM
2

Girls in general are flakes, but if they want to meet you, they won't flake nearly that often.
/r/seduction17/07/14 06:17 PM
4

Yes, this is true. The whole picking up someone with a boyfriend being as easy as a girl without one is a total myth. I wrote about this as well.
/r/seduction17/07/14 06:16 PM
1

Day game is hard, period. I do not recommend it if you have many other options. It's more of a, if you happen to be in a good situation to talk to someone don't just not do it because it's "daytime" but a lot of peoples' day game "success" is having a conversation for more than 30 seconds. I don't call that success.
/r/seduction17/07/14 03:44 PM
0

Don't mind the haters. Online dating is legit and will also improve your "real life" game because you will actually have experience dealing with a woman one on one for more than 3 minutes of an opener.
/r/seduction17/07/14 03:40 PM
1

I think people like it because it is "realistic" and not gimmicky ... otherwise, search for the TL/DR version on here somewhere.
/r/seduction17/07/14 03:38 PM
2

You don't need anywhere near 7 hours....
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:50 PM
2

NLP was never real to begin with so ..
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:28 PM
1

7hr rule and fools mate
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:27 PM
1

Disagree I think opinion openers are still some of the best ones .. just not the super elaborate fake story versions.
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:27 PM
2

Sometimes the rating system makes sense as a way to quickly describe a girls appearance.
/r/seduction16/07/14 03:32 PM
1

whatever, apply what you learned from wherever. the point is to apply it not debate it endlessly online.
/r/seduction16/07/14 03:26 PM
0

Make it fun, but I wouldn't necessarily make it a hobby: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/seduction-theory-makes-for-a-bad-hobby
/r/seduction16/07/14 01:36 PM
-5

Don't ask a fish how to be a fisherman.
/r/seduction15/07/14 02:47 PM
-1

How long is it taking you to sleep with them? I find for me if I don't sleep with them quickly enough I get into this mindset. (Why isn't she hooking up with me yet? Am I not as sexually attractive as other men? etc. etc.)
/r/seduction14/07/14 05:44 PM
1

Yes, you need to be attractive, but it can occur in many different ways not just physical. If you are just out alone at some bar and going up to girls, then looks matter significantly because you have nothing else really going for you at that time, but if you have good social proof at a venue, that can be found attractive. Or you are really built, or they see you having a blast with a bunch of friends, or you seem to be the center of attention of a lot of people, or they see you talking to a rea…
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:52 PM
2

Um no, the guy who gets friendzoned as a way of being rejected rarely gets introduced to anyone. Being friends with a girl and getting 'friend zoned" are two different things.
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:50 PM
1

(1) this usually means she isn't that interested. (2) Say no. Or say yes but then cancel a day later. Either way I would not agree to a date like this if you are interested in a romantic relationship with the girl.
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:48 PM
2

Ok. When looking for a fuck buddy you should almost never be so blatant about it. I've said this in countless threads countless times: even if a girl wants to be your fuck buddy she does NOT want to be referred to that way. She does not want a relationship where she feels like you are using her for sex. You basically told her you just want her for sex and only sex. You think that is attractive to her?
/r/seduction14/07/14 02:42 PM
1

any online dating site really.... though I prefer pay sites like match.com
/r/seduction12/07/14 09:19 PM
1

You can get these women easily online if you want...
/r/seduction12/07/14 07:54 AM
1

Just be more specific. What are you doing for self improvement? If you are going to the gym, say that is an interest or hobby. If you are learning to play guitar, say: guitar. You don't have to say self improvement. And, if you can't think of anything specifically you are doing other than "self improvement", you probably need to reevaluate your self improvement strategy.
/r/seduction12/07/14 07:53 AM
1

At least it's only 6 months... Where you live matters, no doubt about it. I'd try online dating, even if anything as a way to meet some friends. Meetup is a good idea, and maybe classes at the gym or something like that?
/r/seduction11/07/14 07:12 PM
1

don't really understand what you are talking about here. Online should be whatever you want it to be. No one cares if thy suck at online game or suck at whatever, but you guys are giving the OP terrible advice by telling him not to even try online dating.
/r/seduction11/07/14 05:06 PM
1

5'8" (I put 5'9" in profile) and white.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:41 PM
1

Sure, it's more fun that's great, but that doesn't mean you get laid more from it. If you perfected your pictures and profile and messaging you would be getting laid more than you can handle from online dating even if you are average looking and average height, like I am.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:37 PM
1

Tinder is different than traditional online dating (match, okcupid, etc.). Girls do not just reply on other sites based on looks only, they also actually read profiles believe it or not.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:37 PM
1

if you suck at online dating or live in the burbs maybe.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:27 PM
1

You are not comparing apples to apples. You think you sleep with 5% of girls who you say hi to at a bar? HA. HA. HA. With online dating you can almost always succeed with girls who respond.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:26 PM
0

Maybe in bumblefuck oklahoma they are not attractive but in big cities there are tons of attractive girls online, and they are definitely 'getable', probably more so than at a bar. The real thing that happens is that guys suck at online dating or guys think they are gods gift to women and that every girl who would be an 8 to them at a bar is suddenly a 6 online.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:19 PM
1

Actually this is mostly wrong but ok, except maybe for getting perfect 10s. But 6-8 range with some 9s is common place online in a big city, and much easier to get them that way than randomly meeting at a bar competing with tons of guys.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:16 PM
1

Response rate does not matter that much. LAY/SUCCESS rate is what matters. And it is higher in online dating even for average guys than any other form of meeting women, ESPECIALLY in a big city like SF!!
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:15 PM
1

In this 3.5hr date did you try to escalate? Get her back to your place? Anything?
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:06 PM
0

It's easy marketing to say it's the same to get a 9-10 vs a 6-7 but the reality is it is not. HOWEVER, I DO agree that you should not be gaming any differently, trying any harder, etc. However, do not kid yourselves, your odds of getting a 10 will be MUCH lower than a 6 or 7. Also there are some different techniques which work well on 6-7 and do not work on 9s 10s nearly as much, such as "value overloading" (what that is is here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/value-overloading)
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:19 PM
1

I woke up at 5am 5 days a week for almost 2 years and that was going out A LOT during the week as well until very late. It is not that sustainable but you can work it for about a year or so before your body just says no. You need naps and serious catch up sleep on weekends.
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:44 PM
1

if she likes you and you like her, I think there would be some sign of it at some point don't you?
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:42 PM
1

the "talk" pretty much never works. Good thing you didn't do it. Move on.
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:35 PM
0

Yes it happens to almost everyone at some stage. It's called "oneitis". Google it :)
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:34 PM
3

As for specific advice. Spread your attention around. That's what I do. I run a couple companies and start ups, have multiple hobbies, go out with multiple girls, and what not. It's too hard for me to focus on one thing for hours a day unless I really am obsessed with it, so I just spread the bursts of attention I do have around.
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:22 PM
7

Acceptance. Accept that you may have less attention for certain things than others, and continue to live your life without the constant overhang of a "diagnosis" impacting everything you do.
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:18 PM
1

You are on the right track it seems being proactive in making change. Of course you should try to make friends etc, why not? Also, one area where I think you need to improve is to stop using your ADHD diagnosis as a crutch. I think this article I wrote will help you even though you were diagnosed officially it seems: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-diagnosing-your-limitations
/r/seduction10/07/14 07:11 PM
1

appreciate the kind words..
/r/seduction10/07/14 06:22 PM
1

Cancel and make some other plan instead.
/r/seduction10/07/14 05:38 PM
3

nothing always works. There is really no secret here, other than maybe using their name a lot when you talk to them.
/r/seduction10/07/14 05:35 PM
-2

This is one of the few times when self deprecating humor works wonders.
/r/seduction10/07/14 05:17 PM
0

for easy lays, how about online dating? Fake id is also good. And there are plenty of places you can go out that don't card.
/r/seduction10/07/14 05:17 PM
6

As little as possible.
/r/seduction10/07/14 05:05 PM
1

Well, nothing always gets the same reply or always works; however, I kinda like this opener. With that said, an opener is only 10% of the battle if that.
/r/seduction10/07/14 04:26 PM
2

It's not a short cut, it's a totally good, legitimate way to meet women. And yes, you can improve your overall game including "live" game by going on online dates. I write a lot about online dating as I think it is totally underrated and under appreciated by the seduction community. Here's one thing I wrote about how online dating is great for confidence boosting: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/online-dating-for-confidence
/r/seduction10/07/14 01:30 PM
1

Yep, listen to the person who predominately posts in opiates.
/r/seduction09/07/14 06:26 PM
1

Different strokes for different folks. This is why you should experiment with philosophies: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/experiment-with-philosophies Some techniques make sense for some types of guys but not others. Until you test by actually hitting on girls and using the techniques, you won't know what works best for you.
/r/seduction09/07/14 06:25 PM
3

Your friends think picking up girls is weird? That's weird. Who cares what they think? Would you rather care what they think and not get laid, or have them make fun of you but get laid all the time? I know I choose the latter.
/r/seduction09/07/14 05:51 PM
3

Escalate. Focus first and foremost on getting sex as fast as possible (even if you want a girlfriend out of her not just a hook up btw.) Get sex first and foremost. Then worry about the rest. In otherwords, you should always be going for the hookup first, regardless of the situation, and going for it as fast as possible.
/r/seduction09/07/14 05:37 PM
0

I almost always try to invite her to my place or somewhere very nearby for a second date, depending how well the first date went. If I already had sex with her on the first date then to my place on the 2nd date.
/r/seduction09/07/14 04:59 PM
1

http://www.theskillsmethod.com <- his english sucks but this site has good club game info.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:59 PM
1

dont have much to lose.. could have gone for it. As long as you don't do it in a really creepy manner worst case she just ignores you.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:59 PM
1

When it comes to eye contact, generally don't worry about appearing too creepy unless you are obviously being a total creep. I wrote a little about creepy moves here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-doing-these-6-creepy-moves
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:29 PM
1

Keep improving yourself. Start going to the gym if you are worried about attraction. And also put in effort to talk to women. Also, try online dating.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:27 PM
1

You don't have to do anything to approach but simply approach!
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:27 PM
2

It's much harder to tell than you think. Everyone does not like rejection, it's not the same thing as "Totally wrecking a girl". For all he knows, she actually wants something casual. Even when girls want that, very few will actually say that.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:26 PM
1

Not caring is not what you need. Caring is GOOD: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/you-cant-succeed-if-you-dont-care But, you should try not to appear needy. The two are very different things.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:21 PM
1

Hate to break it to you, but you (and all of us) aren't gods gift to women and she will get over you if you have sex with her but it ends up not working out after a short period of time meeting her. But really, it's up to you. If you feel wrong doing it, probably not worth doing it. But it is quite arrogant to think you will have such an effect on her.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:19 PM
2

Don't underestimate the value of having a good career, not just monetary, btw. Though, if you are seeing multiple girls after the initial date or two, most dates can just be "come over and have sex".
/r/seduction08/07/14 06:59 PM
1

Assuming you have engaged them all at least for a little bit, the most effective strategy from my experience is to get the girl who is into you to deal with them. With that said, this is going to happen, A LOT. Get used to it.
/r/seduction08/07/14 06:58 PM
19

No. For a week break I usually text once to confirm we are still on and then I may text the day of to confirm again but in a non-needy way (by asking to push things back 15-30minutes, for example).
/r/seduction08/07/14 06:55 PM
5

Come up with dates that don't involve money, but that is just a band-aid. The real focus should be on getting out of debt and improving your career. I write about some financial advice here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/money-and-career
/r/seduction08/07/14 06:14 PM
1

Gotcha. Try that forum, there is a whole meet up and wing section.
/r/seduction08/07/14 12:47 PM
1

In other words you want a FREE in-field coach. I think an easier approach is to find a wingman who is a bit more experienced than you. Check forums like www.pick-up-artist-forum.com
/r/seduction07/07/14 07:48 PM
1

Amen. I have been preaching this a long time. I wrote an article about it as well: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/taking-it-slow-is-a-bad-strategy While it's hard to know in a particular situation why you didn't succeed.. it is VERY true that taking it slow is, generally, a very poor strategy.
/r/seduction07/07/14 02:44 PM
1

I actually wrote an article about how transitions aren't that important. Don't let lack of a good transition deter you from closing, so that is probably not your problem if you are transitioning quickly. It's probably just that day game isn't particularly high percentage per approach.
/r/seduction07/07/14 01:04 PM
1

My typical interaction is as follows: Some opener.... then: up to anything exciting this week? They respond with blah blah blah Then I respond to their blah blah with some blah blah and I just say: We should get together sometime, and sign my message with my name and number. Simple.
/r/seduction07/07/14 01:01 PM
1

You don't need conversation. It should literally take you 2 messages (maybe 3) to get their number and them to agree on a date. DON'T ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION.
/r/seduction06/07/14 06:13 PM
1

Too many things to list but here are a few: (1) Going after the wrong girls, like the really slutty looking girls. (2) Lying too much on their profile (about height, appearance, everything). (3) Having really long boring profiles. A profile needs to grab attention ASAP at a first glance. (4) Chatting too much online before scheduling a date. (5) Scheduling dates too far into the future. (6) Scheduling dates at very bad times of day (coffee during the day) or very bad locations (far away from whe…
/r/seduction04/07/14 03:29 PM
1

I do. Different strokes for different follks. Mark Manson is tall, good looking, and successful. For him, direct is quite effective. That doesn't make it the most effective technique for everyone. The risk with being too direct is that it can project neediness and desperation. Those are major turn offs. There are plenty of indirect openers and techniques out there. You can search for them I have some on my site, but the general approach I like to use is to "comment on something". Comment on the …
/r/seduction04/07/14 03:26 PM
1

I think both, but for me, pickup lead to confidence (i.e. when i started to get girls, I got much more confident, and that in turn got me more girls)
/r/seduction03/07/14 10:20 PM
2

I would move on. I wrote about this in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/if-she-says-she-has-a-boyfriend-move-on
/r/seduction03/07/14 08:37 PM
1

Be more indirect.
/r/seduction03/07/14 06:50 PM
1

this isn't always a bad thing unless you can't get dates at all. I find the best pictures are the "minimal quality picture that gets you the date". The reason everyone complains about online dating dates is because everyone does it wrong: they focus too much on getting attention/a date including by lying and deception as opposed to focusing on getting GOOD dates, and on actually closing.
/r/seduction03/07/14 04:26 PM
1

These articles are the reason online dating is so easy. Most people come into it with such a terrible attitude and only focus on horror stories instead of taking advantage of the fact so many guys and girls make major online dating mistakes which give those who know what they are doing a tremendous advantage.
/r/seduction03/07/14 04:25 PM
7

Non verbal game. NIght clubs aren't about conversation .. it's about eye contact and physical escalation (kino/etc.)
/r/seduction03/07/14 04:23 PM
17

GYM.
/r/seduction02/07/14 06:30 PM
1

Disagree re: "build attraction", What you say is only true for physical attraction, but that is hardly the only source of attraction. It happens many times where women go from lukewarm to attracted once they learn more about you.
/r/seduction02/07/14 06:06 PM
4

You don't have to agree with everything or even a lot in a book. The key is to get some benefits from what you read. I'm sure there were probably some good techniques or advice in there to learn from.
/r/seduction02/07/14 03:24 PM
2

First of all you can improve your looks dramatically by going to the gym. A lot of guys with ugly faces get hot girls (even ugly and skinny, but there's no excuse to be scrawny if you don't want to be). I know, I used to be 130lbs at your height, now I'm 175lbs with a six pack. Took some work to get there, but nothing anyone can't do.
/r/seduction02/07/14 02:30 PM
2

I've gotta assume you are escalating physically the whole time? (kino, eye contact, etc.) Could just be a streak of bad luck if you're good at everything as you say. Also, it could be that you just are stopping the attraction building too early. Maybe keep pushing forward with more and more attraction building.
/r/seduction01/07/14 05:18 PM
1

Just practice man. Seems like you have a strong 'opening game' but you struggle once you are done opening. I would suspect there is something lacking in the overall qualities you project besides looks and initial confidence/game. What do you talk about on dates? What are your other attributes/career/interests? You got them attracted enough to go out with you, but you need to build even more attraction. Start doing that with other aspects of you that they don't already know from the first 20 minu…
/r/seduction01/07/14 03:22 PM
2

Somewhere close to your place...one of the biggest advantages NYC has for dating is a huge amount of options that are really good logistically. Take advantage of that.
/r/seduction01/07/14 03:17 PM
1

Is this a real post?
/r/seduction30/06/14 06:57 PM
1

Almost any skill can be turned into a DHV for women. Use it, why not? When you have her over, bring up the car you are working on as a hobby and show her. That is definitely a major DHV!
/r/seduction30/06/14 12:36 PM
1

You aren't running away from your problems, you are fixing a major one that clearly concerns you...
/r/seduction30/06/14 12:19 PM
2

Question: is it your name, or is it the specific name you have? (e.g can you not say whatever your name happens to be or can you not say "James".) If it's the latter, why don't you change your name? I'm being serious.
/r/seduction28/06/14 03:04 AM
2

All of the above and more. Self improvement was the beginning; I was 130lbs scrawny nerdy looking out of high school. I started lifting weights and gained about 20lbs of muscle between senior year of HS and college. I also changed my wardrobe and made a commitment to be more social. I went on forums (the old VA forums and more), read books, but most importantly, I put in a LOT of in field time. I would go out A LOT, and hit on A LOT of girls. I failed a lot, but eventually I got better. That in …
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:19 PM
2

To learn more and give back knowledge I've learned through being involved in the community for 10+ years.
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:09 PM
0

I agree 100% people read too much. I wrote something about this recently, how seduction theory makes for a bad hobby: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/seduction-theory-makes-for-a-bad-hobby Yea, I get the irony, but hopefully reading that one article makes you read a lot less overall and do a lot more in the field.
/r/seduction27/06/14 02:27 PM
1

Well, when you are that rich, combined with overconfident works.
/r/seduction27/06/14 02:25 PM
1

It feels wrong why? Because cheezy hollywood romantic comedies make it seem like if you aren't a supplicating loser you are a bad guy?
/r/seduction27/06/14 02:24 PM
1

Don't feel guilty. There are a few reasons for this, but here is the big one very few people think about: Many women are OK with casual flings but if you tell them that's all you want it is (a) a turn off, and (b) for their ego/reputation it almost FORCES them to give you an ultimatum or end it.
/r/seduction25/06/14 08:11 PM
1

Are they asking? I most definitely never bring this up unless they specifically ask me and even then I try to avoid the question.
/r/seduction25/06/14 07:32 PM
2

Well, you were married once so you did manage to get girls. So that should be comforting even though it didn't work out in the end.
/r/seduction25/06/14 06:20 PM
2

It's not that important to blow her mind with a first kiss. In terms of being a good kisser.. kissing is one of the things where it's ok to take the woman's lead in terms of intensity/amount of tongue, etc.
/r/seduction25/06/14 04:00 PM
7

If you focus on building attraction versus "getting her number" and let the number exchange happen "naturally", this is rarely ever an issue.
/r/seduction24/06/14 10:57 PM
1

Hmm... sounds like she isn't interested to be honest. I'd move on.
/r/seduction24/06/14 10:50 PM
2

Did Mark Manson start this reddit? The Manson worship on this reddit is unreal.
/r/seduction24/06/14 07:45 PM
1

You need attraction. That's the key.
/r/seduction24/06/14 07:44 PM
3

Uh, it totally depends. Very hard to stereotype this one.
/r/seduction24/06/14 05:38 PM
1

Not bad except that it takes place during the day.. be sure to schedule follow up drinks/something at night.
/r/seduction24/06/14 04:59 PM
2

I go for a real date in the first 2-3 messages...
/r/seduction23/06/14 08:43 PM
4

In terms of conversation, I wrote about a couple ways: One I like to call "emotion response linking": https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/emotion-response-linking And the other my partner TVJ wrote about (Identity Statements): https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-secret-to-small-talk-identity-statements Hope those help.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:51 PM
1

Just tell him to do it.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:49 PM
1

Well, to be honest, it's very hard to quantify '6'. However, I have been doing online dating on and off for 10 years, and I have never felt a woman was on there just for validation/etc. except for women who select 'available' on okCupid or 'seeing someone'. Also, a lot of women get TONS of attention online, so even if they are on it for validation, it quickly becomes annoying and tedious so it is unlikely the 'validation' seekers will stay online for long. Note that this does not mean there are …
/r/seduction23/06/14 06:52 PM
0

Just don't bring anything up until you have no choice .. but eventually, you'll have to make a choice.
/r/seduction23/06/14 05:57 PM
7

Generally, you should try to meet earlier. If unavoidable, you don't need to worry about maintaining attraction, what you need is just to stay on her radar so she won't flake. If it's 7 days away, maybe send her a text confirming 3 days before that you guys are still on and then another the day of using a non-needy technique (for example, asking to move the date back 15 minutes).
/r/seduction23/06/14 05:55 PM
7

Yes. Met serious girlfriends, slept with triple digits, etc. I say it time and time again but people don't believe me: online dating, for most people, is by far the easiest way to get women. And I'm 5'8" and more or less average looking.
/r/seduction23/06/14 05:52 PM
1

Your situation may be such that you are rarely on the computer; however, (6) is a total myth. (Especially on pay sites). Not everyone gets better results online, but I would argue the vast majority of people who live in an urban area do.
/r/seduction23/06/14 05:51 PM
1

I'm the only person here who thinks online dating is good? Unlikely. Millions of guys out there have figured out online dating and realize it's by far the easiest way to get women. Actually get women, not "get a number", or "she talked to me for 5 minutes".
/r/seduction23/06/14 05:45 PM
2

(1) Girls often chase you online (2) You don't need to go out of your house/you can "hit" on girls during work, etc. (3) You can be engaging with many girls at the same time (4) Interest is usually established really early (5) You are arranging one on one situations off the bat so no worries about AMOGs/competition/etc. (6) You know girls are on there looking to date not like a random girl at a bar who might chat you up but have no interest I can go on and on. I write a lot about online dating o…
/r/seduction23/06/14 01:19 PM
1

This is a common issue. I wrote about this and I've also provided a link to a blog with some good dance floor game techniques: Basics of Dance Floor Game: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/basic-dance-floor-game-concepts How to avoid dancing like an idiot: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-avoid-dancing-like-an-idiot And a great blog on dance floor game: http://www.theskillsmethod.com
/r/seduction23/06/14 12:45 PM
3

No. Just no. Online dating is by far the easiest/effortless way to get women.
/r/seduction23/06/14 12:42 PM
2

I personally prefer text to phone. Mostly because I like doing my interactions in person and with text its easier to just stick to logistics and not worry about much else. Also, I think most women, in most age groups prefer texting as well. It's just way less intrusive.
/r/seduction23/06/14 12:40 PM
3

Eh, you assume that because a girl who isn't interested in real life will be polite and "talk to you" means you have a chance. People are often disillusioned by the "hit rate" but they are measuring hit rate wrong. Hit rate is about how many girls you actually succeed with in the end (date, close, etc.) not how many let you chat them up for 5 minutes.
/r/seduction23/06/14 03:23 AM
1

Ok. Say you wanted to be an NBA player. Do you think the right approach would be to play LeBron James one on one until you get there? Of course not. You have to build up your ability. Dating and seduction is no different. If you are a virgin at 28 how do you expect to jump right in there and get perfect 10s? You probably won't. Start gradually building up your abilities. I wrote about this exact problem you have here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-just-hittong-on-10s
/r/seduction23/06/14 03:13 AM
1

ha. not if you get the info from her. Many clever ways to do that quickly.
/r/seduction22/06/14 09:02 PM
1

yea, hired guns are also "forced" to be nice to you which makes it much harder to read them. The best bet is to try to find out where she hangs out so you can talk to her when she isn't in hired gun mode.
/r/seduction22/06/14 08:38 PM
0

By not having them in the first place! Text to set up dates/logistics, not to shoot the shit. But, if you get stuck in them, I wrote an article about this exact point here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/ending-text-conversations
/r/seduction22/06/14 03:44 PM
1

Don't be so hard on your self. You tried to game a "hired gun" which is one of the most difficult type of women to game.
/r/seduction22/06/14 03:43 PM
0

It doesn't matter that much. I wrote about this exact point in more detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/dont-drink-no-problem
/r/seduction22/06/14 03:42 PM
5

Don't ask if a girl has a boyfriend. There's no reason to. If she wants you to know, she'll tell you or make it obvious.
/r/seduction22/06/14 07:21 AM
7

Yes. Thank you. I see guys make excuses for the girl all the time instead of just going for it. I wrote a whole article about this actually: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/stop-deciding-for-her
/r/seduction21/06/14 01:54 AM
1

In general, the best method with all online dating is to meet as soon as possible. So, in general, no.
/r/seduction21/06/14 01:53 AM
1

Gotta learn how to move on without firm rejection, because by seeking firm rejection, you are guaranteeing yourself rejection, as opposed to maintaining a chance of actually getting the girl.
/r/seduction20/06/14 07:13 PM
1

Thanks! What you say makes sense. Yea, I would cool it for a bit and then re-initiate contact. I don't think an apology is warranted at this stage from the details you've given.
/r/seduction20/06/14 06:53 PM
1

Blatantly obvious red flag in my opinion, but who knows.
/r/seduction20/06/14 04:31 PM
1

These are two questions. One is what do to if she goes cold. I wrote about that here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/what-to-do-and-not-to-do-when-shes-gone-cold. BUT, the real issue going on here is that your first date didn't go nearly as well as you think and she just doesn't want to hang out again. This is very common, where guys misinterpret interest. I wrote about that also over here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/misinterpreting-her-interest-level I think you fall into th…
/r/seduction20/06/14 03:20 PM
1

This is moving way too slow. Let evolution do the work for you and try to have sex as soon as possible. Sex => attachment => makes keeping her much much easier.
/r/seduction19/06/14 06:26 PM
3

No. Power is the most important thing. Good looks do help a lot though.
/r/seduction19/06/14 04:02 PM
4

This date could very well be off, but no matter, Yes, text her the day of. The way I like to do it is as follows: propose pushing the date back by a trivial amount of time like 15 minutes to 30 minutes. Be like, "hey, for tonight, I'm running a bit behind, can we do 8pm instead of 730?" This is the most non needy way to do a needy thing. I have more detail about this issue here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/how-to-do-needy-things-without-appearing-needy
/r/seduction18/06/14 03:39 PM
4

Sometimes sometimes not. Either way, it doesn't really change anything in terms of how you should game; talking in general is not a reason to skip steps as Animalistic-Logic said. Now if she starts touching you or showing you some Strong IOIs (https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/6-strong-indicators-of-interest-iois-you-cant-miss) it's time to skip steps.
/r/seduction18/06/14 02:27 PM
1

Yea, that's always a risk, I guess I just assumed that the OP doesn't really care that much about this risk.
/r/seduction18/06/14 01:36 PM
1

That's kinda like saying that 80% of girls have STDs because 80% of girls at an STD clinic test positive.
/r/seduction18/06/14 03:42 AM
3

instead of asking them how they are, how about asking them a "future question", for example: "How's it going, up to anything exciting the rest of the week?" and go from there. Since you don't have much time, have a card or something handy.
/r/seduction17/06/14 09:08 PM
1

Depends on definitions. There is how much they "enjoy" sex, which one could argue is as much if not more than a guy if it's good, but then there is how much they "desire" sex, in which case, yes, I think way less than most men.
/r/seduction17/06/14 09:07 PM
0

nah girls like sex also, but girls can get sex crossing the street; that's not the main reason they choose to have sex with YOU.
/r/seduction17/06/14 08:58 PM
28

It's quite simple: If you are desired by a woman, then the assumption is that woman has already vetted out your traits and determined you have desirable traits, and if you have desirable traits, then other woman are interested.
/r/seduction17/06/14 08:31 PM
1

For one, do not tell girls you want to be FwB. This is a mistake, EVEN If they are ok with it. Honestly, your approach is correct EVEN if you want a relationship: always move for sex as quickly as possible.
/r/seduction17/06/14 08:30 PM
1

Why do you think you need an inner-game approach? Have you tried a results oriented approach? Results breeds confidence which breeds inner game.
/r/seduction17/06/14 07:59 PM
-4

Every girl is different, but most want a "relationship", even those that say they don't.
/r/seduction17/06/14 06:48 PM
1

I was more or less the biggest loser ever until I decided to transform my life between high school and college. I never even kissed a girl until college. I was scrawny, dressed poorly, had no social skills, and was a downright weirdo. I made a very conscious effort to rebuild myself both physically and mentally between high school and college and "start from scratch".
/r/seduction17/06/14 06:46 PM
1

I'm 5'8". Height definitely helps, but being 5'8" hasn't stopped me from being with a ton of women, including dozens who are taller than me. Sure, some women probably weren't interested in me because I am was too short for them, but there are plenty of women who don't care.
/r/seduction17/06/14 06:32 PM
2

depends how you define success. Women can get laid very easily, even 5/10 or below, with little to no effort (yes, even ugly girls). But, this is not necessarily what they want, or how they define success.
/r/seduction17/06/14 04:01 AM
1

I think you are reading too much into my advice. I would say my general advice (or at least I hope this is what I am getting across?) is that the primary driver of seduction is attraction, and the focus of seduction should be first and foremost making the woman you are interested in attracted to you as opposed to any other component (such as "comfort"). Not that other components aren't important, but it's too often that you won't get to demonstrate them if there isn't attraction. It's easy for M…
/r/seduction17/06/14 03:39 AM
1

The point of seduction is what you personally want to get out of it. Some men seek to use "seduction" to find that one special woman, others to enjoy a lot of sex from lots of different women. Others, a combination of both. There is much more to life than sex, women, and relationships, but for that there are also many other sources of information, so I wouldn't say that because someone seeks out ways to increase their odds of sleeping with women they want to sleep with as leading any empty life;…
/r/seduction17/06/14 03:34 AM
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Good job, but depending where you live you should be getting 3 fcloses / 5 days with online dating.
/r/seduction15/06/14 12:57 PM
1

yes this is an IOI. Which should be obvious.
/r/seduction14/06/14 11:52 AM
2

I don't know, it happens to where I kinda want them to leave after, but, that desire to seduce has not come close to going away and I'm older w/higher #s...
/r/seduction13/06/14 06:08 PM
2

It depends. I would have a conversation about it if it bothers you. My ex-gfs ex kept trying to hang out with her and it was obvious he was just trying to get back together with her, so i told her to choose. It's disrespectful in my opinion for her to blatantly go out with guys who are trying to hit on her, so tell her how you feel. Honestly, she may not even have a problem saying no and won't necessarily think you are controlling or jealous.
/r/seduction13/06/14 05:59 PM
0

For someone who has rule #2 as not being bitter you sound awfully angry and bitter.
/r/seduction12/06/14 08:50 PM
1

Unfortunately, she is trying to avoid going on the date.
/r/seduction12/06/14 08:49 PM
1

well, naturally, I think mine is (Sway Seduction, www.swayseduction.com)
/r/seduction12/06/14 07:31 PM
1

There are plenty of hobbies you can take up. I wrote a little cheat sheet with some ideas on my site: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/the-josh-sway-hobby-cheat-sheet
/r/seduction12/06/14 02:07 PM
1

It depends on the situation. You should strive to have a bunch of tools at your disposal, including speaking fast, slow, and medium. Fast speech has it's place (it makes you seem more intelligent often times) but sometimes, being able to talk slow is useful as well. Learn to do both.
/r/seduction12/06/14 02:05 PM
2

This is a prime example of why I say that even if you want a fwb relationship you DO NOT SAY THAT to women. It is a major turn off for a girl to tell her you just want her for sex even if that's all she wants, and that is what happened here, she was tired of feeling used, so she isn't interested in you anymore.
/r/seduction12/06/14 02:04 PM
1

I like to be VERY indirect at the gym. Casually comment on something as you are walking by for example.
/r/seduction12/06/14 12:49 PM
2

No, unless it's a serious girlfriend. Actually, I guess, it doesn't really matter one way or the other, unless you are like 35 years old, then definitely say no.
/r/seduction12/06/14 12:47 PM
2

this problem takes care of itself ...
/r/seduction11/06/14 08:48 PM
1

I agree with some of the things most experts say and disagree with some of the things most experts say.
/r/seduction11/06/14 08:47 PM
1

Talk about being needy and trying too hard. You put in way too much into this texting. You came off as needy and stalkerish, and at this stage it looks like she isn't interested. Don't contact her for a few weeks and then maybe re-engage with "Hey stranger how've you been?"
/r/seduction11/06/14 08:40 PM
1

my real name is wacky as shit. It makes for conversation, or sometimes if I don't care I just use Josh.
/r/seduction11/06/14 08:38 PM
2

Of course girls like nice guys, what they don't like is asexual pushovers. The two are not the same thing.
/r/seduction11/06/14 08:38 PM
1

Language barriers are a problem, but they are surmountable. Also, try going out in places where you can play a more physical game (like clubs).
/r/seduction11/06/14 08:37 PM
1

actually 1,2,3 are basic tips, but good. Too many men waste time on women who aren't online often and/or haven't given indicators of potential interest (viewing your profile).
/r/seduction11/06/14 07:25 PM
1

The first part of this article is the key to online dating: it's about increasing your odds of getting women, not getting responses or views. I have actually been experimenting, with pretty good success of using pictures which UNDERSTATE my looks. Less responses and e-mails, but much higher lay percentage.
/r/seduction11/06/14 07:03 PM
1

you're welcome. I'm adding more content about this topic; if you have other specific questions please let me know! ([email protected])
/r/seduction11/06/14 04:55 PM
2

Ok, well, this is a very involved process for which you seem to have a lot of the key elements down (logistics, actually having the balls to ask, etc.) but usually the key missing ingredient is building an "extreme" level of attraction. This is what many men forget, they simply settle for some "baseline attraction" and then proceed. You need A LOT of attraction. This is the key. In terms of actually getting her up there. There are many ways to do it. It depends on the situation. If it's a date, …
/r/seduction11/06/14 01:06 PM
1

I don't bother asking. If she wants you to know, she will bring it up.
/r/seduction11/06/14 12:57 PM
1

They are two different things, period. Speak to people if you want to get better at speaking to people.
/r/seduction10/06/14 09:49 PM
8

Attraction isn't all about looks, but don't kid yourselves, looks matter, and there isn't that much of an excuse in my opinion, to not improve your looks.
/r/seduction10/06/14 08:51 PM
6

i haven't read the book, but i think you have the right approach (self improvement without the bitterness). I write a lot about this actually on my site (https://www.joshsway.com/articles/self-improvement/1), as one of my pet peeves about "the community" is the amount of bitterness in it. Don't hate the game, learn to play it.
/r/seduction09/06/14 06:42 PM
1

You are always going to care, the trick is to not let caring prevent you from anty-ing up again and playing another hand. Also, be sure that you do not apply "not caring" to anything but the specific problem of "fear of rejection". I wrote about that in detail here: https://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/you-cant-succeed-if-you-dont-care
/r/seduction09/06/14 02:44 PM
1

because women talk, and information gets around.
/r/seduction09/06/14 01:31 PM
-14

yes I did. You made mistakes (like agreeing to a movie date) and then are proud of yourself for saving $20? The real issue here is that people think that there is any benefit to not paying on a date other than saving usually a small amount of one and I want to be as emphatic as possible that no there isn't and that NOT PAYING LOWERS YOUR ODDS EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. PERIOD. Even if you don't want the girl.
/r/seduction04/06/14 04:12 PM
-15

UGH THIS IS PAINFUL. STOP BEING FUCKING CHEAPASSES AND PAY FOR A FIRST DATE!!
/r/seduction04/06/14 03:43 PM
4

define hang out?
/r/seduction03/06/14 11:52 PM
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