Why game doesn't work.

Lambdal7 · 2018-02-22T10:01:57+00:00

Your premise is false.

Yes, if a girl is heads over heels into you, you don't need much game. That happens maybe once every 10 years with a hot girl and you still need know about game and numerous mental models so that she doesn't lose interest, because

you become needy
because it's hard to talk with you
your jokes are weird and uncalibrated
she notices that you are really insecure on the inside
you fail to build some attraction on the date and it fizzles out

However, most importantly, game is for the 99% of girls that

find you interesting, but aren't heads over heels into you yet
find you nice as a person, but not more
don't know you that well and haven't thought about you in this way or don't like you even

So, if you don't want to fuck it up when a hottie is interested in you out of nowhere once every couple of years and also get girls that YOU find attractive, you don't get around having good game.

goldgibbon · 2018-02-22T08:17:12+00:00

All of the things you're saying are fine and good... but you say it as though that isn't what seduction and "the game" are already all about

TheMindOfJoey · 2018-02-22T12:51:08+00:00

I agree with you on a couple of points but your overall premise is based on an idealistic view on the world.

Firstly you speak about game being useless because attraction is based on biology. This is what makes it effective! Its the fact that you can portray the traits of someone with the best genes, by going to the gym and approaching with more confidence. I agree that for the long term using cheap tricks and canned lines is not feaseable but in my case this helped me to grow the overall confidence to be myself and not have to use them.

Game is not the be all and end all rather it is the stepping stones into understanding the dynamic between the masculine and the feminine. This does not only apply to seduction but also life as a whole. Everything is comprised of the ying and yang (masculine and feminine)

You also said that men are assuming that women like masculine men with beards because men like feminine women. This is just human nature, what a woman says is not always what she feels but what she wants to feel. You are in fact the one making the assumption that women find beards gross, because you find them gross.

Women with a more feminine polarity will prefer men with a more masculine polarity where as women with more masculine traits will prefer men with more feminine traits. This is not always to do with physical traits but also social and behavioural.

I feel that you are a man that needs game, but is too ashamed to admit it, even behind the screen of your computer. Game is not just a way to pick up girls, but a way to understand life a little bit better.

Game will not get you a long term girlfriend or wife but it will make you a better man which in turn allows you to get one naturally.

Injoker11 · 2018-02-22T14:17:27+00:00

Read his comments and the top comment. Confirmed troll.

2018-02-22T21:23:27+00:00

On the part about only picking out women who already show attraction towards you..

This is would be great advice in a perfect world where girls made their intentions as obvious as we did.

Some of my best pulls at bars and clubs have come from going up to girls who I was almost sure I was going to get blown out by. In particular one that said “I saw you when you came in and thought you were really cute”, but before I approached I was 99% sure she hadn’t even noticed me. You might say “well that’s your fault for not picking up on that”, but I’m also not going to sit there and stare at her to she if she’s noticed me.

I say this to mean that most girls are VERY lowkey in their ways of showing interest before you approach them. You’ll never ACTUALLY know until you shoot your shot.

BestSC86 · 2018-02-22T16:28:53+00:00

Yes, you are correct that for the vast majority of dudes it is really just two things..

Picking girls that would be inclined to be interested into them and then learning social skills which don't fuck up that attraction and behavior which allows her to feel comfortable enough in fucking them.

It really comes down for most guys to realizing that they are attractive to some set of girls and then not being scared of pussy enough to let the sex happen.

Some people get into this shit with wildly exaggerated expectations that they are going to learn a few routines then suddenly they will go from being a video game playing twig in an anime tshirt and Big Bang fedora to shagging the entire cheerleading squad every Mon, Tues, Wed, etc nights.

Title	Why game doesn't work.
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Date	February 22, 2018 7:13 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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