First time viewer and poster

MovieReviewMgtow · 2018-04-11T15:19:31+00:00

"Couldn’t we talk with women and show them what equality is?"

You do that and I'll be out fishing and enjoying my life, let me know how your reason and logic goes with them. I assume you have never been in a divorce or a divorced family?

Gr8bellsoffire · 2018-04-11T15:20:54+00:00

You just described the men's rights movement. Which for 60 years has amounted to jack and shit for improving men's treatment in family courts.

There is no middle ground, as we chose to not accept that we even need them. My life is much more fulfilled doing what the fuck I want to do.

They will never cede any power that they control, Mra has been trying to for at least 60 years and they have absolutely nothing to show for it. Now why? Because they thought like you did..and now many of these movements have to pander to woman..which has clouded everything they hope to acconplish.

Go take a look at any of the father's rights fb page, on any single story or article there are tons of comments of women saying 'I'm not like that, I do this'...on a post about some poor guy who was fucked over they still can't help but make a public post seeking attention for herself...and these are the women who supposedly support men.

In the end, that's what lead me to mgtow. The family court system panders to women, they will never give up that power...ever. the only way to fix that system is to starve it of meals (men).

Yes all women are the problem. I don't hate them, they are the special snowflakes that society made them. That society churns out thousands of them daily. I can't fix society, all I can do is fix my life. And that's why I'm here.

We going our own way is going to change society, but then it's too late. They made their bed, time to sleep in it

Marque01 · 2018-04-11T15:18:21+00:00

Your questions are logical and well thought out

Unfortunately, women react emotionally to stimuli and go with what 'feels' right. They do not use logic or reason

Sol_Install · 2018-04-11T15:49:16+00:00

Do I believe all women are lying, cheating backstabbing bitches? Nope. Do I think that men shoudl refrain from interactions with women as much as possible? Nope. That's his call to make. Equality does not exist in terms of biology. You treat people equally in terms of humanity meaning respect and so on. But men and women are not equal. What have women ever done to prove that they are equal? Nothing. This is no different than women talking about how "strong" women are. What have they done? Nothing. It's just crap to make women feel good. How can we be equal when women are allowed to do what men are hated for? Just today someone posted a woman telling people to use eye drops to kill their spouse. 647 likes.

Women do not want to be equal. They want special treatment. They want to hide behind men in times of crisis. They want men to work harder than they do. They want men to shoulder the burden of their existence. "But not all women are like that! My mom works too!" Fucking great mate. Not all men are rapists and pedos but that doesn't mean women will trust just about any guy does it?

You cannot reach women on these subjects because again, women judge and criticize men but don't expect it in return let alone are able to handle it. Let's say you meet a woman that is against women hitting men. Great. Most women like that would leave their man to fend for himself because they don't want to get hurt. You think women will want equality? Really? Imagine all the women who trade access to their bodies for cash giving that up? Won't happen.

Hell, even men don't want equality. Men favor the well being of women above all else. That means they will support sending men to war but not women. And why? Not because men are better suited for combat. Or because they need women to make babies to replace the soldiers they lost. No. Because women are pretty and sexy. That's it. Men also want men to pay for their daughters. They want men to DIE for their daughters. Men don't want equality. And do you know what the crux is?

Men and women both lack humanity towards men. Women could never last as men. Ask anyone who plays games online and gets hatemail. Men can be vicious. Fat women get support from men. No one likes fat men. Men will never be allowed to be "weak" because to be seen as weak grants one humanity. And you see this time and time again. Women commit crimes, they get a slap on the wrist. No one cries misogyny or accuses the male judge of being a bitter virgin. Men get falsely accused and it ruins their lives? Women don't care and Trad Cons, PUAs, and the like blatantly ignore the issue.

Men have died building eveything around us. If it was women dying, it would be an issue. There is a cancer for every month, yet Breast Cancer/February is the only month that matters. At work, I've shit about empowering female cocoa farmers. I've seen the pink tags and the pink police cars at the police station.

I was like you. I thought that if we could talk about these things, we could work something out and create a better world. Nah. The hostile responses from both men and women and the human history of screwing men over proved me wrong. Being a man means that when things impact you, people don't care. Fend for yourself. Being a woman means you get all the humanity men never will. I mean you see it. Both men and women bitching and shaming men. And do you know what? THEY NEED MEN. Yet they refuse to admit it but they are more the ready to spit upon us.

Hardwaregrinder22 · 2018-04-11T17:05:32+00:00

The problem isn't women itself, it's the system. It's like claiming that children are the problem when they are allowed to vote and are given a credit card. No, the problem is that they have those rights to begin with. Women are children, that's it. You don't convince your child not to drink, vote or not use their credit card, you make it unavailable for them to begin with. I don't care if you think our views are extreme, because it's not an argument. The problem if anything is men who is enforcing womens rights. If we tried to take womens rights away women wouldn't do jack shit. Thirsty cucks however would die for their rights and they would be a problem.

mohnjack · 2018-04-11T17:40:34+00:00

There's nothing extreme about our views, the short story is: we've simply realized that women & the state have teamed up against us in a mutually beneficial contract and we've decided to leg it.

The long one is: women hide their true nature in order to enslave us to be their ultimate utilities, while the state hides the true nature of women in order to make tools out of us. This isn't some new stuff that I'm coming up with, it's objectively true. Now is that bad? well it depends on you. Do you wanna become a slave to your society? most of us here say hell no.

Are all women the problem? of course not, but that's no argument. You could also say: did all Germans hate the Jews? Do all Asians/Arabs wanna rape British little girls? and the answer to both of these questions is a simple no. The problem with most ppl out there who don't understand this community is that they think we generalize, we hate and we seek to promote one gender over the other, when in fact we've simply figured out what women have hidden from us this whole time and now we don't want any part of it. This notion of 'love'? complete BS. These tradcons on YouTube? working only for their own self benefit and agenda. Would you think that the Jews would've accepted helping Hitler if they knew what he'd eventually do to them? especially in the beginning when German Jews were instrumental with developing German technology.

As for your last point, you have to realize that a lot of our new members are filled with anger & resentment. They come here and try to heal, laying their problems on others and hoping for solutions. They range from high school kids who've been shunned and physically abused by their society/parents to grown up adults who've been in one too many a failed marriage(s). Hell I came here after my 3rd LTR, which all ended up with immense grieve and emotional destruction. Do I hate women for that? absolutely not, but I've certainly switched to one-night stands since 2 years ago (my last LTR), I date women at least 5 times a year during my travels and tell them b4 hand that I only seek companionship for one night. So to that I say welcome any/all new members of this community, get yourself sorted here and healed and go your own way, whatever the hell that may be.

gantz_au · 2018-04-11T15:40:19+00:00

Why do I need to waste my time, money and effort on something that is more trouble than it's worth?

Instead of wasting my time on things that have no worth in my life, I've gotten myself a newly built house, nice car, great career and all the time, money and energy in the world to do all the things that I enjoy... why change that winning formula?

DangZagnut · 2018-04-11T15:57:36+00:00

Extreme? What's extreme about not being married?

Shouldn't it be up to the other side to adequately convince me to get married?

"Hey, try this new thing called marriage, you sign a contract with the government and claim you're going to only be with this same person until you die, and if they get tired and leave, they get half your shit. The big payoff is some minor tax benefits you could do already."

cryptotim70726 · 2018-04-11T16:49:23+00:00

No. Our views are not extreme. Extreme would be killing them instead. I haven't seen any MGTOW advocate that.

Mr_M0t0m0 · 2018-04-12T02:28:44+00:00

Men have been trying to get femanoids to come to terms for over 30 years. Enough is enough. Extreme results require extreme measures and if it takes men to cut off fems, then so be it!! Let them eat cake!!! MGTOW 4 LIFE

Title	First time viewer and poster
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Date	April 11, 2018 2:51 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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