My issue with Briffault's Law

gtowerthrowaway · 2020-02-25T18:05:29+00:00

You did not understand the Law.

It means that the moment the benefit stops, the woman is out. So if a man spends 20 years taking care of a woman, then loses his job, she'll drop him instantly, with no care for previous benefit given.

Men aren't like that.

Similarly, this is why women are incapable of keeping a deal. If you say, ok I'll do this and then you do that in return, the second you're done she won't feel any obligation to pay her debt. This is why women rarely pay back borrowed money.

Again, men aren't like that.

bieberblows · 2020-02-25T15:43:44+00:00

Men don't use people for benefit most of the time. It's an even deal. A man might ask his friend for a ride but he will offer a few bucks and thank the person before and after the ride.

A woman will ask for a ride but offer nothing and keep asking while changing the destination over and over(i.e. oh stop here! Oh I swear I just need to stop at this place!).

Uniqueusernamehurray · 2020-02-25T15:41:33+00:00

I think it would be no benefit other than sex. You show me a hot woman and I want to have sex with her regardless of her income, social status, clothes she wears, job she has, and so on. But an attractive construction worker making 20k a year... that's a different story. They may want to fuck him but they won't consider him LTR material solely based on his low income.

pangolin001 · 2020-02-25T17:52:12+00:00

You can't take a line out of context. The first line is the most important. 'the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family.'

The man in your hypothetical CAN derive benefit from the female - sex.

You might now (logically) ask about how sex is not a 'benefit' for women. The answer to that is quite simple. Women have an abundance of options when it comes to getting sex and even some of the most disgusting women can get sex relatively easy. this is not the same for men so it cannot be used with Bruffault's law.

It's supply and demand. Sex isn't some bonus for a woman. Unless of course she really wants that one guy (probably because he's high in sexual market value and alpha traits) but usually a woman wants MORE than just sex because sex to her is easy.

The benefit a woman seeks from a man goes beyond sex. Sure, she might fuck Brad Pitt just to have fucked Brad Pitt, but if women were honest, they usually want something besides the sex. She'll use sex to get it, but there's almost always something else.

Briffaults law, like a math equation, doesn't work if you pull it apart. The whole thing has to be there or it's useless. This is what reading and comprehension is all about. It's the big picture. It just takes more words and prose to try and get an idea across because ideas are not simple.

DangZagnut · 2020-02-25T15:50:44+00:00

So what? According to all media, all men are horrible. Even if briffault applied to men, everyone assumes all men are abusive exploiters.

The issue is people think women don’t do that, and it needs to be shown that’s exactly what they do.

Of women want to be equals, then they have to be criticized and shown to be human, and not angels on a pedestal.

But men are almost never in that power position with women. Women are always in that power position.

The_Whorror_Show · 2020-02-25T19:06:12+00:00

Looks like we got ourselves a bluepiller here. Don't worry dude, you will understand if you get onto a relationship, as soon as you are not valuable to her, not even love will keep her loyal.

RIchardjCranium · 2020-02-25T18:24:57+00:00

Women remain with a guy as long as he provides a value to them. Also as emotional and not logical creatures sometimes we see them with someone that no logic can understand. Look at all the girls and throw themselves at the biggest scumbag losers just cause they are perceived as “cool.“

The minute she sees your value drop is the moment she’s done. She will be done with you way before you are aware of it usually . How many guys have you heard say things were great until one day...

Remember she has options. I have seen dumpster fire Broads with multiple guys chasing after them so you can’t even understand what the options of a 7 is.

rcd2fzimag3 · 2020-02-25T18:26:29+00:00

Look at those sexless marriages where the men stay until the woman files for divorce for her advantage.

Now, revaluate your stand on sex as a man's benefit for staying in a relationship.

At the same time, how many woman can you imagine to stick by their husband as the husband goes through a financial crisis.

2020-02-25T19:42:55+00:00

Briffault's law comes from abundance and a biased perception of fairness.

Our instincts make us enjoy female attention, however small.

So the animal part of our brain will think that unfair transactions are fair when a female is involved because it factors in the value of their attention.

If you can't transcend that, you will fall for it.

Most guys literally become stupid around women, for this reason. So it's a buyers market for the women. Thus, they will have absolutely no patience or mercy with any single guy because they can play the numbers game without effort.

If female attention is worthless to you, due to wisdom or abundance, then Briffault's law will be true for you as well. Because you know women to be illoyal, you will immediately drop them when they stop being worth your time.

This is different from male friendship because many men can be loyal, so it is possible to trade favors over a long period of time.

justthrowmeout · 2020-02-25T18:11:29+00:00

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HydarnesCCC · 2020-02-25T18:18:43+00:00

You are absolutely right. It does apply to us. Which is why accountability is paramount. Accountability here is absolutely key. Now I'm only saying this to add context and perhaps weight to what I'm about to type. I am African-American.

Look at Abraham Lincoln's legacy to the Afro community. By definition, the man was as racist as can be. However, even without any direct benefit to him, perhaps even direct erasure or erosion of said benefits, his ideas and principles led him to question the state of slavery for example. To me, that makes him just as great a factor as others like MLK, to where we are today. I'd argue even that men like him were an even greater factor as they held all the cards.

The abolition of slavery, which WHITE RACIST men were highly responsible for, is being downplayed today to the extent that many accredited History professors consider it unneeded as a stepping block, and refuse to delve into it's importance. It was the VERY FIRST LEGAL step. A baby step for sure, considering issues like chain gangs and indentured slavery, but absolutely IMMENSE. The laws and constitution created by White slave-owners themselves, are the same factors that led them to abolition. How they get so little credit today, shows a need to conceal objective truth. They were vital. No longer could you OUTRIGHT enslave another man; and I mean having the DIRECT LAWFUL right to own another man.

Is this making sense? Lincoln and other men of his time are blatant examples of those who had nothing to gain, but ended up paying a high or the ultimate price for MERE IDEAS, PRINCIPLES, AND ACCOUNTABILITY. They knew they couldn't say "Freedom For All Men" and then proceed to enslave men forever.

Now back to Briffault's Law. Why do you think men, women and society harp on and on about responsibility and principles? I remember getting tired of hearing that as a young man. Self-imposed restraint and accountability are ESSENTIAL. LITERALLY THE BACKBONE OF ANY SOCIETY. Does the current state of affairs between men and women demonstrate both parties fully understanding the weight of not just their actions, but the tenets and principles they purport to abide by? Cheating is subhuman, we all acknowledge this. Yes, even MGTOW despise male cheaters. You'll often find us telling a guy to not have a relationship if he's going to just sleep around. Do you see feminists, male or female, telling women this? Do you see women, feminists or not, telling women this? Do you see women themselves holding themselves accountable? What about the law? There's always, ALWAYS an excuse.

They have NO RESTRAINTS. Hence why they get away with all kinds of inhumane behavior. Imagine legally being able to drive a man to suicide, regardless of who's at fault. They are even lauded for it. Men can do the equivalent, but we have structures in place, external, internal, or otherwise to keep those behaviors in check and that is deliberate. It's by design. Briffault's Law is just a tool being used, often times wrongly so, but a tool it remains.

Tell me, do you still have a problem with the Law itself? Do you understand why it's application differs between men and women? These are not rhetorical questions friend. I'm typing from a phone, forgive my use of CAPS.

Title	My issue with Briffault's Law
Author	justthrowmeout
Upvotes	22
Comments	45
Date	February 25, 2020 3:31 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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