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Northumbria Police has defended its domestic abuse poster campaign following claims of sexism (brand new article)

JohnKimble111

January 4, 2016
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/r/MensRights
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/northumbria-police-defended-domestic-abuse-10685611
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Title Northumbria Police has defended its domestic abuse poster campaign following claims of sexism (brand new article)
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 16
Comments 12
Date January 4, 2016 9:34 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3zgsf5/northumbria_police_has_defended_its_domestic/
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Comments

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Comment from the article

My friend was actually contacted by the Chronicle reporter for comment, but due to the fact he needs to maintain a good relationship with his abuser for fear of losing access to his young child who she has custody of,didn't want to be publicly identified other than his online persona. Despiteoffering the Chronicle a means to verify his identity off the record they saidthey could not include anything about his thoughts/story without specifically naminghim. I find it abhorrent that the Chronicle would take this stance andwonder if the same boundaries would have been placed on a female abuse victimmaking comment?

[–]Rockbottom503 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Where in the name of fuck is the link to this guidance for the stats being quoted - this goes against every single study that I have ever read!

[–]OirishM 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Even according to recalibrated ONS (i.e. UK government) stats, it's about 70% female victims. I also would love to know where they are getting their stats from.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, I think stats do show the lowest proportion of male victims in the north east of England (i.e. including Northumbria) so perhaps they're only talking about particularly studies cherry picked from that specific region. Then again, given that the police force in the area is by far the most hostile to men than any then I'd assume there's a cause and effect going on to produce said stats.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please vote in the poll, it has been taken over by feminists.

[–]roharareddit 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is most certainly what has happened! They saw that the general public is no longer buying their trash and they are panicking. So they send the call out on social media for all of their friends to vote on the survey.

What we are seeing is the death throws of their dominance of the discourse surrounding DV. This is an act of desperation.

The poll is at nearly 50/50 now. I have a feeling that these people will be singing another tune soon.

[–]roharareddit 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The government guidance, not that of Northumbria Police, states that: ‘controlling or coercive behaviour is primarily a form of violence against women and girls and is underpinned by a wider gender inequality in society.’

Same old lies we have heard from this gang of crooks for the past 45 years.

“This does not detract from the work the force does to support male victims and this has been the subject of earlier campaigns. Overall the campaign centres on a poster which does not mention gender and focuses on a non-gender specific agenda.”

Um, excuse me. Painting domestic violence as a gender specific problem as you just did literally in the same problem does detract from helping male victims. And your poster most definitely is gender specific.

[–]JellySausage 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey if you instantly want to make half the population dismiss your campaign, this is how you do it.

[–]DougDante 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They keep bringing up this 84%.

I can see it now.

"Chief, this guy says he was a victim of coercive control by his wife. What should we do?"

"Let me check .... Nope, we've met our quota this month. Throw him in jail".

Are these men really going to get a fair shake?

[–]dualbrokenarms 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the main problem here is being overlooked. 'Coercion' should not be illegal to begin with and only serves to foster a victim mentality. Every weekend I hear 'I better be back by half 10 or the missus will kill me' or 'my girlfriend always looks through my phone'. Is this really going to be treated as a crime if these men walked into a police station. Doubtful. But get a woman turning on the waterworks and complaining of the same behaviour and all of a sudden the man is 'abusive and controlling'.

Partners male and female alike make requests/demands of one another and if you don't like it...tell them to fuck off. It should only become a crime if they MAKE you behave a certain way (most of which are already offences). If someone steals your passport, confiscates car keys or threatens violence...then yes, the police should be involved. But if a partner tells you not to go see your your friends and you're weak enough to be controlled by them...yes you need help...but not from the police.

Just my two cents.

[–]Allblacksworldchamps 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And new guidance for judges in strengthened protection orders in New Zealand will require consideration of each wheel of the Deluth model, written gender neutral, so potential to move this way if judges can apply them gender neutral. However also new training being provided to judges (not sure who by) in interperating this, just to gaurentee it is applied selectivly.

It will be through Europe in 5 years, and the world in 15.

[–]XxThatonekidxX -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, if you need me I'll be blow drying my hair in the bath.

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