In Defense of Single Motherhood - NYTimes.com

lukins · 2012-08-12T18:37:00+00:00

My favorite line: "Young men need jobs so they can pay child support and contribute more meaningfully to the households they are living in." I think the second part was added as an afterthought. These are single mothers; we're assuming the dads aren't allowed in the household, so the only meaningful contribution allowed is monetary.

ullere · 2012-08-12T21:21:36+00:00

From an old post of mine.

more likely to suffer emotional stress

[Children from fatherless homes are*:

• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders • 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide • 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers • 24.3 times more likely to run away • 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders • 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions • 10.8 times more likely to commit rape • 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school • 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage • 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes • 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions More Statistics on Fatherlessness CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS

It’s a Fact Here’s why: · 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census). · 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. · 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (Source: Center for Disease Control). · 80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source: Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26). · 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools). · 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992). These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are: · 5 times more likely to commit suicide · 32 times more likely to run away · 20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders · 14 times more likely to commit rape · 9 times more likely to drop out of high school · 20 times more likely to end up in prison](http://www.fathersunite.org/statistics_on_fatherlessnes.html)

Single mothers spend less time on kids than married and unmarried women with kids < note this article spins this finding as being remarkable that the difference isn't greater.

They found that cohabiting and married mothers spend similar amounts of time caring for their children, while single mothers spend less time with their children than married mothers.

single mothers recieve more welfare than non single mothers.

This article is pure bullshit, lazy, boring, and crap.

Single parenthood is fine by me, sure it isn't as good as having 2 or more people involved in raising a child (extended family for the win), but it's fine enough. Does anyone actually give a shit? Is there some anti single mom pogrom thats going on? Also what about teh menz? Why no mention of single dads... because single dads aren't a problem.

2012-08-12T23:51:34+00:00

Of course no one feels bad for the fathers. The men she had children with have no rights. She has complete authority over when they see their children. I'll bet she likes it that way.

EpicJ · 2012-08-12T18:36:48+00:00

When people say single mothers are bad they usually mean single mothers who can't support their children and depend on government handouts

MRMRising · 2012-08-12T20:14:52+00:00

The real menace to America’s children is not single mothers, or unmarried or gay parents, but an economy that stokes an unconscionable divide between the rich and the not rich.

Code for; "Tax those evil people who earn there wages, and give it to us single moms who obviously deserve it more."

Planner_Hammish · 2012-08-12T19:26:39+00:00

EDIT: I linked to the wrong article, here is the correct one: http://owningyourshit.blogspot.ca/2012/03/transcript-of-fempocalypse.html

All emphasis hers

From: http://owningyourshit.blogspot.ca/2012/03/transcript-of-men-not-marrying-how-deep.html

For instance, the UK has essentially become a partial matriarchy wrt the base unit of society. Neither children, nor women's sexuality, is owned by men--on the contrary, even children born into marriages are essentially more the "property" of the mother. In addition, single motherhood is a growing norm over there, with about half of all babies born to unmarried women, and at least 20% of children currently living in single mother households.

However, even now that we have safe, easy indoor jobs that pay decently, women still seem to require the surplus labor that used to be provided by husbands and fathers--in the form of maternity benefits if nothing else. They get that surplus labor now from the state. Men contribute a disproportionate amount of tax revenue to government coffers, and women pull a disproportionate share of the benefits. Women also get that surplus labor in the form of forcible extractions through alimony and child support from divorced fathers, or from single men who often did not consent to become fathers.

The UK government has also been rather...blase about the idea of fathers having access to their children, and as I mentioned above, when fathers do not have access to their children they are generally less productive and pay less child support. Fathers who never wanted children are pretty much in the same boat as those who are banished from the lives of children they did want--especially since they are penalized for their productivity. The more they earn, the more is taken in child support. So not only are they not motivated to be more productive through a sense of ownership of their children, THEY ARE INCENTIVIZED TO BE EVEN LESS PRODUCTIVE than they might have been, because any surplus they generate will be seized anyway.

And because this surplus of labor is not willingly handed directly from men to women--that is, because it has to be extracted in one way or another from men--that means a growing bureaucratic machine taking it from men and handing it to women, eating a share of it as it performs this service.

I keep hearing the term "nanny state" used by political pundits, but really, in effect, we have a "daddy state". Men pay into the system in taxes and direct payments, and women withdraw from it in the form of alimony, child support, tax benefits, subsidized health care, day care and housing, government sponsored after school programs, income top-ups, welfare and food stamps. Not every woman with children is a drain on the system, but women as a group very much are. Not every man pays more into the system than he takes out, but men as a group very much do. This is why the system works...for now.

But let's look at some of the other costs of single motherhood--especially when fathers are completely absent--through the statistical disadvantages to their children These children face a 2 to 10 times greater risk of:

*substance abuse

*truancy

*health problems

*being abused

*behavioral problems and personality disorders

*criminal behavior

*gang activity

*suicide and running away

*dropping out at all levels of education

*incarceration as youths and adults

*sexually transmitted diseases

*having children outside of relationships

*becoming teenage parents

So we basically have a lot of direct and indirect costs attributable to the breakdown of marriage as the base unit of society, all of which will increase as those last two pesky items--single and teen parenthood--beget more and more single mothers generationally.

But wait, there's more!

When a man defaults on child support, we incarcerate him, to the tune of about $60,000 per year. This not only directly costs us, but we've also removed his earning and taxpaying capacity while he's incarcerated and further, have handicapped his ability to return to a productive role once he's released with a criminal record. We are essentially paying for him to become less productive and more of a burden. It's lose-lose!

Dranosh · 2012-08-12T18:59:03+00:00

She doesn't believe in generalizations or quote-unquote "studies" whose conclusions she disagrees with, because every situation is as unique as a snowflake.

She selectively quotes from a study whose findings support her point. She criticizes people who selectively quote from studies.

She believes that single mothers are disfavored by "serious underlying economic inequities", which should be rectified by taking money from taxpayers to give single mothers "preferential access to excellent day care".

AnthonyZarat · 2012-08-12T18:34:20+00:00

Single motherhood wrecks the lives of children and non-custodial fathers, puts financial and legal pressure on society, and haunts a nation's economy for decades to come.

But when a woman "wants" something, we can't let a trail of tears and destruction stand in her way, now can we?

2012-08-13T00:17:19+00:00

Lol, as someone who grew up with a single mother (father died)(she never remarried), I absolutely LOATHE most single mothers.. Most stray cats are better parents than they. Most single mothers have a sob story, and it's usually bullshit.

Title	In Defense of Single Motherhood - NYTimes.com
Author	lukins
Upvotes	10
Comments	17
Date	August 12, 2012 6:29 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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