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Creep shaming, Rape Culture, and Football

RedPilkington

January 18, 2013
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Title Creep shaming, Rape Culture, and Football
Author

RedPilkington

Upvotes 4
Comments 17
Date January 18, 2013 8:26 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/16u40f/creep_shaming_rape_culture_and_football/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/creep-shaming-rape-culture-and-football.235395
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Comments

[–]RedPilkington[S] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

The format of this video is clever in that is couches an incredibly anti-male theme in the discussion of a legitimately bad crime.

No one thinks the acts here were excusable, not boys who did them, nor the culture at large. The speaker seems to think that there is still some confusion in the minds of males as to what is acceptable. He thinks men feel entitled and are therefore dangerous.

Then he blames the 'rape culture' for molding young men into nothing but rapists. What could a young man possibly do to defend himself against all these images of men being dominant?

Then he goes a step further and ties everything nicely together with a bit of creep shaming. Those boys were as far from creeps as you could get. Girls didn't feel threatened by them because of the very traits that predisposed them to do something like rape. Lets face it, the cocktail of traits women find attractive don't always make for the most upstanding citizens.

But no, the blame was laid on creeps in a implied attempt to connect 'creeping' to rape. Suddenly every beta out there retreats further into their shell for fear of looking like a rapist.

The article he mentions on creeps has some of the most counter productive advice I've ever heard.

  1. Don’t touch. Seriously, man. You’re not eight, with the need to run your fingers over everything, nor do you lack voluntary control of your muscles. Keep your hands, arms, legs and everything else to yourself. This is not actually difficult. Here’s an idea: That person you want to touch? Put them in charge of the whole touch experience.

Oh, then he keeps going. "Number 4, Acknowledge that other people do not exist just for your amusement/interest/desire/use. You know those girls who go around wearing those pants that say 'juicy, sexy, and kitten' on them? They do that for a number of reasons...Those aren't there for you". Thats just it though, those pants are there to send signals to men. Women are trying to advertise their sexuality. Those are for you. Well, they are for you only if you are attractive.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

  1. Don’t touch. Seriously, man. You’re not eight, with the need to run your fingers over everything, nor do you lack voluntary control of your muscles. Keep your hands, arms, legs and everything else to yourself. This is not actually difficult. Here’s an idea: That person you want to touch? Put them in charge of the whole touch experience.

Is this a list of rules on how not to get laid? I can play along:

  1. Always ask her what she wants to do, never act on your own impluses.
  2. Before having sex, make sure you ask her explicitly, if the words "Do you want to have sex with me now?" never come out of your mouth, you're a rapist.
  3. Wait at least 10 dates before attempting #3, this way you know for sure she won't feel pressured into saying yes.
  4. When you are out trying to find a nice woman, never approach them. Stand against the wall and wait for her to come to you. People who approach are all rapists.
  5. Purchase a blow up doll, you're gonna need it.

[–]ysef954 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah i would also like to add dont ever instigate any kind of sexual conversation with a woman talking about sex makes you a creep and unless its women talking with their girlfriends sex talk is not ok ever. also you can never shit again that whole is for her and her only i mean come on give me a fucking break with this bullshit

[–]Modredpillschool1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But no, the blame was laid on creeps in a implied attempt to connect 'creeping' to rape. Suddenly every beta out there retreats further into their shell for fear of looking like a rapist.

The feminine imperative pokes its head out..

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A friend girl has started to call me a creep for approaching other women (and stopping giving her any attention whatsoever). The red pill is working.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Those aren't there for you

Ouch. Just one more thing to make the average guy feel worthless and completely without sexual value. That can't lead to anything but healthy and socially acceptable behavior, right?

[–]RedPilkington[S] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean follow the logic:

Those aren't there for you. The woman uses those to communicate with potential mates. You are not a potential mate. You must be ugly so stop looking at women.

Thats basically what he is driving at with out really knowing it.

[–]monopolyman22 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This really resonates with the idea that a lot of feminist behavior is about weeding out the losers. Send mixed signals and if you can't figure out the cypher and instead act in good faith based on direct statements, then fuck off- no sex for you.

[–]ysef953 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The fact that videos like this even need to be made makes me kinda fucking sick with the way we live today i mean seriously? you are now having to tell people to distinguish between rape and legitimate courting?

Its as if men and women are now some sort of different fucking species and we have to have all these rules for approaching each other and how to interact and i guess thats just social convention and having game but i think its a bit fucking ridiculous when people have to be toldwhat is and isnt rape.

I feel like being redpill should be some sort of compulsory education and they should teach basic evolutionary and social psychology to fucking twelve year olds. And I feel like he didnt really read that RooshV article at all. I mean obviously the title wasnt saying "OH YEAH GUYS LETS ALL FUCK WOMEN WHO TELL US THEY DONT WANT TO". Even Roosh isnt fucked up enough to do that shit no one in their right minds would write a fucking blog post in support of rape or what that football team and their coaches did I would challenge anyone to find one article in support of their behaviour.

[–]jookato1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The fact that videos like this even need to be made makes me kinda fucking sick with the way we live today i mean seriously? you are now having to tell people to distinguish between rape and legitimate courting?

I bet you know where he's coming from though. Most of us have been there. This guy is well-meaning, smart and articulate. He's just a victim of our (white) Western culture, much like most people here.

[–]ysef950 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah you have a point and i guess hes just doing what he thinks is right but the fact that we live in a world where he would feel he needs to use his intellect to educate people on this and not more important stuff kind of makes me a little annoyed

[–]jookato0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously he feels it's very important, because he's still under the illusion that women are noble, sensible creatures.

[–]kangchenjunga1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Righteous indignation of the Vichy-male.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't like this video at all. It is basically brain washing men to give their power to women. He takes an example of idiots being idiots and makes a speech as if it's an epidemic of fucking rape. Guess fucking what, 99.9 percent of all males on the planet don't rape women, and never plan to. He's regurgitating feminist blue pill logic. The basic rule should really be, don't be a fucking idiot and rapist. Women are confusing creatures, but they have just as much value as a man. Seriously, no man needs to hear this shit. That video is for 15-22 year old manboys who still think bragging about how high or drunk they got last weekend is the bee's knees. Take this shit off of /r/theredpill. This sub isn't for the people that bullshit video was meant for anyway.

[–]RedPilkington[S] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My intention was to bring this to /r/redpill as an example of bluepill logic and thought. I thought it important considering its getting some attention on /r/videos.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh man, in that case my apologies. I didn't realize it was on purpose lol.

[–]Modredpillschool1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess fucking what, 99.9 percent of all males on the planet don't rape women, and never plan to. He's regurgitating feminist blue pill logic.

Agreed.

I think redpilkington posted it to observe the feminine imperative.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/16u40f/creep_shaming_rape_culture_and_football/c7ze7bx

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