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[–]yea_tht_dnt_go_there 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wait, who said these quotes?
[–]LuperFlipino 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think its Gandhi..Im not sure
[–]648262 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I should probably read something by this lady as I have neglected it for some time now.
What does this quote try to say and how does it apply to RP?
"Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think.'
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[–]648262 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand. She looks at the whole value chain and basically says that since there is a value chain to speak of there is someone who did something good at some point.
I was being small minded a few posts back, because wealth does not need to be just money - It can be anything a person values. If you value knowledge and have it as a goal in life to acquire more knowledge, you increase your personal wealth. And since there is value chain of knowledge to tap into means that Man has done something smart at some point in time.
This might just be my own interpretation of it, but it makes sense to me at five in the morning at least. Thank you.
[–]Hirudin[S] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Start by reading "Anthem" or "The Fountainhead" one is a short story and the other is a good novel. "Atlas Shrugged": (Ayn Rand's main novel) contains the bulk of her ideology, but sacrifices good storytelling in its attempt to bring these concepts to discussion.
The quote you mentioned is simply a statement that men's personal wealth is usually not the product of theft, but rather a result of hard work, honest dealings, and the trading of value for things of value.
There is this belief, inspired by the media and feminism and spread by the lazy, that every person who has been successful has achieved that state by lying and cheating, or they inherited it. The lazy are using this lie to make individual achievement and success look bad, so that they can instead push forth their own agenda and justify taking that very wealth. They use this lie as an excuse for their underachieving. But the fact remains, it is indeed a lie. The majority of the successful people have gotten there by the same means open to everyone. Working, thinking, and providing something needed or wanted by others.
[–]648262 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the reading suggestion, I will look into it.
I kinda get it. She equates wealth as an indication of success, which came from his ability to be smart?
[–]Jammin_Jelly1 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fountainhead has my vote, although I read Atlas Shrugged first.
Checkout the Fountainhead movie, the one from 1949. It is quite interesting to watch from a redpill perspective
Beware Ayn Rand can be a bit circlejerky at times. Her entire (early) life was basically destroyed by the Soviets, so she kind of adopted the opposite mentality
[–]Hirudin[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Generally yes. This assumes that that wealth hasn't been confiscated. Alimony, child support, certain taxes, etc.
[–]bndesforges 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's about making rational choices about your personal finances.
You can make a lot of money and still struggle to manage it properly. Proper money management needs thinking. Wealth is not what you gain but what is left out of you expenses.
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Bioshock, bitch!
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Have not read anything by her, but I am curious since her Atlas book was mentioned in South Park....as garbage, but probably in a sarcastic way.
[–]Aexorys 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter."
Money is not evil but living for money is quite bad. The purpose of life is not to get rich but to be happy. Well you could say that money is needed to be happy but money shouldn't be at the center of your life
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