If you ask her out too soon, it will be too direct and you will be a "creep."
If you ask her out too late, she will friendzone you.
If you are a chad, none of the above applies to you.
So I noticed that it is not actually a matter of timing. It is actually a matter of chad or not chad. if you are a chad, she will say yes, if you are not a chad, she will say no.
I have noticed that there is only 1 way of getting a girl to actually want to go out with you: she has to be physically attracted to you in a hypergamous manner.
So having "game" is bullshit. Anything you say will sound sweet to her ears if you are chad enough. Anything you say or do will be creepy or annoying if you are not a chad.
This is the only way you can improve yourself in terms of getting girls:
lift get rich (she won't actually like you but at least you will get sex)
Nothing else matters, for example how you act around her, what you say, how confident you are, etc... Short of literally acting autistic around her, she will bend down for you no matter what you say if you look like a chad. Yet if you overcome the greatest adversity, display the most confidence, and take on a guy twice your size and win the fight, she will still not even acknowledge you if you are not physically attractive enough for her.
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