I've recently started testing out plate theory. I exclusively use plate spinning strats for hot girls in new social circles, as well as girls in places I frequent that I interact with in a gradually increasing rate over time. In other words, I never use it in cold approach/direct game unless I've already gotten to sex with her. While my cold approach game still needs work, I'm putting more focus on social circle since my game there has been pretty nonexistent, and especially since I'm getting better at entering new circles.

Because I didn't really have any game tailored for social circle before this, and the game I do have is terrible for social circle, the results are better than I have had in sc, but that's not saying much. I'm not actually spinning plates as I would define what spinning a plate means. So far, I've just tried to get several going, one from each group that's worth it.

So here's what I do right now for plate spinning.

I communicate via subcommunications. I won't go into much details into that, but it's utilizing the concepts of imagination and competition anxiety. This is when not directly talking, usually while my main priority is just integrating into a group so I'm guaranteed repetitive chances with several hotter girls in these groups.

This is what I've seen frequently, and I've noticed more acutely today. When I directly talk to her/them, I continue doing subcommunications. This often isn't received well, at best it's been received neutrally. In other words, it's a bad strat. It's a bad strat in the way I'm doing it at least.

Attention

Rollo says when with a plate, bring your full attention there. The attention I should give her should be quality attention when directly with her. This is what I think I'm doing wrong. When I talk to her, I continue thinking about other girls I'm working on, thinking it might trigger competition anxiety. It doesn't. I don't provide quality attention when I talk to her, each plate attempt, so the interaction is more dull. That's why at best the direct interactions receive a neutral response, while indirect low effort subcommunications have still been effective. By effective, I mean, when I do subcommunications there, the girls always are more aggressive in showing their sexual interest. This hasn't been the case when I directly talk to them.

Rankings

Secondly, the majority of game I've tested here has so far been nonverbal, and more frequently when not directly communicating. While it's effective at enhancing natural attraction that's already come with my relative SMV as well as helping pace within a social circle scene, it doesn't include much escalation. It's more pacing than anything, putting her in a bit of stasis while I figure this thing out.

The first strat I remembered that addresses this is rankings. I subconsciously put all my plates on equal rank when I decide to plate them. In other words, while I may give a sense of competition, they're validated in not needing to compete. Any anxiety I bring them is more directed towards a lack of loyalty than an urgent need for getting to sex. They experience some degree of inner conflict, but it's not directly, or at least urgently, expressed or responded with a need for sex. The girls that understand what's implied that's going on, and accept it, are bittersweet and passive, happy yet not happy, and especially not aggressive.

Another perspective, if they have validation without sex, and I assume they're at the same level as my other plates without having sex, it's a logical assumption to assume I'm not having sex with these other girls, and I'm not actually spinning them. In other words, there's a safety net there, as well as a lack of validation towards me being a good SMP bet. There's the component of her (their) hypergamy questioning whether you can escalate, or whether your SMV is really that high underneath, moreso associated with that questioning of ability to escalate. Then there's the subsidence of anxiety that creates an urgency for sex, not just a want through nebulous attraction. In other words, if I already rank her equally without having sex, there's no rush to get to sex. Even though she can sense that there's a hidden unspoken competition, even though she hasn't put anything in, she would feel a sense of security thinking she was competing well. In other words, there's no rush on her part or need to have sex anytime soon. That makes the speed towards legitimately getting a new plate spinning really slow.

In order to rapidly get a plate I want to spin to start spinning, there needs to be some level of urgency or need for sex. (From here, when I say you, I mean me/I. I was talking to myself when I wrote this. I don't feel like editing it this late at night) In other words, even if the one with more security on her part, even though it's only partial, if it ends up working, it'll be working much slower than possible. The purpose of competition isn't just to create anxiety, but urgency to compete. If you're already having sex with other girls, and you haven't had sex with her, she would be behind. If she doesn't feel behind, there's no need for her to compete. If she's behind because she hasn't had sex with you, she'll feel a need to have sex quicker because you could always just continue to have sex with girls that are already giving it to you. In other words, there's a hidden sense of possible loss, as well as a lack of validation towards her on your part. Without that loss looming, if she's attracted she won't feel a need to act much on her part. If she fears losing you, and she wants you, she'll do things so she won't lose you. If what she needs to keep you is having sex, she'll make up her mind to have sex with you. It formulates into a decision she will act towards instead of something she fantasizes about occasionally, or some ambiguous attraction, while it may be there, isn't something that has solidified into anything yet.

Final thoughts

So here are the next steps I'm aware I need to take.

  • 1. When I'm talking to a potential plate, bring her quality attention and focus. When I'm not interacting with her directly, continue not putting much effort, and triggering her imagination with competition that's there, but not there in front of her, as well as triggering arousal through her imagination.
  • 2. Also, start implementing a ranking system that goes into the way you interact with each potential plate. Similar to the sidebar. A girl I want to plate who is attracted to me, but hasn't gotten to sex, she's a rank 0. She's behind the other girls, and shall be treated as such until sex. This will be reflected with the words I choose with her, as well as how I say them in relation to how I see her given her rank. Rank 1 is had and is having sex, but nothing more. Rank 2 is, she's intentionally, out of her way, done something for me that's not only sex.

If these don't bring much difference, than I'm probably going to focus either how I'm going about escalation. Social circle is different than cold approach in good ways and bad ways. To me it's more intricate. Since it's a relatively new focus with more variables and the possibility of burning down a social circle, I'm using safety strats so I'm playing conservatively. It's most likely escalation will be and has been my issue. The other focus would be to improve other areas of my game.

At this point, improvements in my game should bring greater rewards that improvements in SMV for a while. Overall, improvements in my game have been minimal, low effort, and for fun, and should continue being that way until my career is solid. If focus on game messes up building my career, my SMV would take a blow that focusing on game wouldn't have been worth.