My ideal first date is go for a coffee at the mall. The mall is source of so many conversation topics that I've found it one of the best ways to find what a person really is like. The key is to mention that you will ONLY go for coffee, you won't buy shit for her.

I almost always go to a Starbucks and ask for a "cheap" coffee, nothing too exciting. Depending on what she orders and if she pays her part (she will, I won't pay shit, if she says I must then I'll bounce inmedietly) also speaks volumes.

But thats what I've done 2 times by now and I've found some success since the first one wanted me to pay and I bounced and the second one was nothing like in her picture and so I bounced.

But I've been thinking of other alternatives. What are the ones you use?