BDSM 'Switch' Dynamic workablewith TRP?

Billee_Boyee · 2017-04-21T14:10:15+00:00

It's far more likely she will be squicked by the male in a submissive state. It may be fun on an intellectual level to imagine you are the superior, but at an instinctive level her feelz will take over and any attempt to switch becomes playacting. Her feelz are not under her control and she will never lose the image in her head of you in a gimp mask tied to the table. She may even playact the submissive for you, until the moment Master Chad walk in the room, and she forgets you ever existed.

Andromeda1985 · 2017-04-21T16:02:42+00:00

I've been thinking a bit about this topic myself and have talked to a few people about it.

One of the core concepts in TRP is about frame control. specifically the other person should be in your frame. in terms of switching, what this means is your frame should be in control, and you've separated frame from dominance.

within BDSM this is possible, as a good Dom doesn't push a sub too far. they decide when and what is done, but how far this goes is determined by the sub. A male sub can probably more easily guide a female dom into doing what he wants. IE: if he wants to be struck, he can do something that would require punishment, pulling his dom into his frame instead of her frame being in control. It's extremely fuzzy, but I would say it's possible.

I've employed this tactic a few times, and recently here in the sub, but you can essentially feint a weaker frame to bait someone into your frame. We've done this for centuries in warfare. when it comes to frame warfare (IE: AMOG situations) it can be useful. but at the same time there's generally not a lot of point. it requires setup, careful baiting, etc. and it's mostly not worth the effort. I did this once to snipe a girl someone else was dating. baiting him into situations and then emasculating him. it ultimately didn't end well as the girl was expecting to enter an LTR. the poor bastard also went into deep depression for nearly a year. This could be my inexperience, but again why not just go for a more available/easier mark?

but, in an LTR, it can be useful in keeping things exciting. feint a weaker frame, let her feel in control for a while, then reminder her who's really dominant in the relationship. I've only done this with a girl once; she was the most turned on she'd ever been once she realized that despite the fact she was calling the shots I was the one leading the interaction. This was a perfect storm situation and I have serious doubts of being able to replicate this again. And really why do I need to? it's much easier just to get another plate if things start to get boring.

mrpoopistan · 2017-04-21T17:26:04+00:00

It doesn't work.

Funny thing in BDSM, you'll meet almost no male doms who are comfortable bottoming. You'll meet tons of female dommes and alpha types who'll bottom for "the right person."

Point being? When the time comes that "the right guy" comes along your ass is grass.

I've never seen a switch couple stay together. In fact, most BDSM pairings have the lifespan of a goldfish you won at the fair.

Title	BDSM 'Switch' Dynamic workablewith TRP?
Author	Alcastraz0
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Date	April 21, 2017 1:38 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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