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What’s wrong with somebody being 65?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:47 PM
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How many followers do you have on your Instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:38 PM
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When we talk about girls, we’re not talking about girls of low quality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:30 PM
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That’s not how the majority of people define dating. Most people define dating as your boyfriend and girlfriend, which means a committed relationship. But assuming that’s not howyou define dating. What’s your evidence that young men are dating(by your definition )?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:24 PM
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Nobody here is trolling. Single also means not in a committed relationship or cohabiting so it’s not just LTR or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:07 PM
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So why do studies show 60% of men 18-30 are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:05 AM
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The problem is that most guys even though they have similar hobbies to girls still dont get them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:30 AM
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Do you not consider your nephew boring considering he only just watches sports and drinks beer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:39 AM
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I mean, that’s great and all but what I’m saying is that people on here argue that men can’t get girlfriends because they don’t have hobbies. But the reality is that you really don’t need hobbies to get a girlfriend. What you truly need is to just be physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:27 AM
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No, who are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:11 AM
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What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:10 AM
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nobody said any of that. I’m just asking why do you not think the average guy is struggling in dating when the majority of men 18-30 are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:49 PM
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What do you mean the average guy doesn’t struggle with dating? 60% of men under the age of 30 are single, not by choice. How is that not the average guy? Also, most below average guys do have social activities. But they still don’t get laid because the women in those activities don’t find them physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:57 PM
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Yes, I have. One of the posters talked about how he knew multiple languages, was into philosophy, did photography and hiking. And he got outclassed by some guy who just watches sports and drinks beer all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:54 PM
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These all seem like activities the average guy does. Weren’t you saying before the average guy who struggles with dating doesn’t have hobbies? Almost every guy talked to has the hobbies you listed and still struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:52 PM
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Opinions on somebody like this then? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:02 PM
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Interesting because my evidence says the opposite. Usually when I talk to PPDs who usually say they do these things and they have lots of hobbies. There was literally a top post like this a couple weeks ago, but they still can’t get late due to the fact they’re not physically attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:57 PM
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What is your man’s hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:54 PM
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Uh-oh don’t say that you’re gonna get banned
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:51 PM
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This might be true for you, but it was most likely not true for the rest of your classmates. The majority of men are not hooking up like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:47 PM
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True, we need to make a specific thread for this. Too many delusional people on here. I’m curious who would my looksmatch be? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:43 PM
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Exactly but that’s what OP was basically arguing. You could have all the hobbies in the world just like you practice as much as you want. But if you don’t have that basis of attraction like basis of good genetics you’re not going to make it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:40 PM
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Strange for you to say that. Usually, when I wear white beaters, I get way more attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:47 PM
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What’s your evidence that the majority of PPDs, haven’t been in locations, where people are hooking up? Like most people have been to a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:42 PM
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Reality is even when it comes to being all American you still need to be in that high percentage of genetics. If you think you could become a good college athlete being an average or below average dude you’re just being delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:38 PM
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Bro, not this shit again. This simple size is literally age from 18 to 82. Of course, the majority of people would have casual sex in that case. People born before the 2000s didn’t have to deal with Tinder and Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:35 PM
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Just become a millionaire celebrity, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:33 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:44 PM
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Most men don’t have the ability to do that. Considering the qualities to be lusted after our based on genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:38 PM
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Choosing versus settling for the loser nice guy are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:22 AM
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You say a lot, but what percentage is a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:25 PM
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who are these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:56 PM
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Im curious do you think the average man does these things you listed? Also please be more specific with "off putting mannerisms" because people even on this sub say talking with your hands is "off putting"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:49 PM
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What autisitc tratis have you seen personally from thses people? I mean like concrete examples of something autistic they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:39 PM
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what was he doing specifically that was turning them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:24 PM
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Thats not issue. Your post is making it sound like looks can be secondary(like a bonus of sorts). That if you have enough "aura" it doesn't matter how unattractive you are, when that is not the case. Looks are a requirement for attraction when it comes to relationships. You can be as "aura-filled" as you want if you are short, bald, fat, and ethnic women aren't going to like you. You might agree with this statement but its that your post and your arguments dont come across that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:23 PM
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What women have you met that see Indian men as exotic? These guys get the least amount of matches on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:08 PM
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Do you think if you were short and Indian you would be getting the same results?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:07 PM
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Are you 6 foot plus and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:42 AM
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Not every person is a basement dweller that struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:00 AM
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So what do you have to say to the men that live the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:42 PM
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Idiotic take. Getting fat unless you are severely obese is not going to significantly increase your dating standards
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:12 AM
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What’s your evidence that the majority of single men looking for dates have these qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:08 AM
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Only about one man for every three woman reproduce. what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:07 AM
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This is changing, considering that the majority of men under the age of 30 are single
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:53 AM
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Have you been on Tinder as an average guy? Or even seen an average guy go to a bar and try to hit on ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:35 AM
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It’s not just women everybody does that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:28 AM
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Just because something is said by an incel doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Also most men dont technically have an issue “attracting women”. It’s usually attracting women on their level. The majority of women I attract I’m generally not attracted to due to them being overweight. This is why personality is not that important like bluepillers believe. Because it’s not like I behave differently around women that I find attractive versus women I don’t find attractive. It’s just that those women I find attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:01 AM
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I’m just saying it’s not all dismal people are stuck in their way. Most people date and mingle. It’s not this rigid inflexible thing. This claim is not founded at all. The majority of men under 30 are single. The majority of men barely have the ability to date. With age we are close to the same age I’m older by 3 years. But I do not want to date someone significantly older? I don’t see the appeal in dating a man significantly older than me Most women don’t want to date men siginifically older th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:02 AM
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Because hook up culture is happening because a few of the men are having sex with the majority of the women. It’s pretty easily explained. Hook up culture is ruining dating because you have a small amount of men hooking up with the majority of women and due to this women are getting tired of being pumped and dumped, because they’re dating above their league. And a lot of women are quitting dating altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:47 AM
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Just because hookup culture has ruined dating doesn’t mean everybody was participating in the hookup culture. Also, it’s a well discussed issue on this subreddit on online dating has ruined dating for normal to average men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:06 PM
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The fact that they include men going up to age 82 is a huge influence here considering only about 10 years ago we started having this sexless crisis among men. Other studies like the GSS survey show young men up to 30% haven’t had sex within the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:11 PM
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Is your boyfriend white?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:07 PM
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Well personality is a HUGE part of it. Barring like actual deformities or being super morbidly obese which I can imagine is really tough for people to get dates. But your average guy isn’t ugly or this or that. So looks isn’t a factor in the conversation about men’s behavior being below the bar. No one wants to be with a self loathing/negative scrooge bantering on about how it’s his canthal tilt or lack of 45° jawline. Looks do matter in the conversation, because most men’s behavior is not below…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:07 PM
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This is definitely not true. There are many overweight women with regular size men and vice versa. Also, you need to be looking at the context of why those overweight men are with those skinny women in the first place. Not to mention I wouldn’t even consider that normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:20 PM
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What evidence do you have that a majority of these men don’t function as independent adults? So much so that they can’t dress themselves or even take showers. Also isn’t that the majority of men are the bread winners in the household?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:19 PM
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Yes and the sample was of men who had Tinder and were getting a match
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:15 PM
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From your study This study required participants to have used Tinder for a month and have at least one match;
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:15 AM
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How have these studies been manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:11 AM
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This is totally not true. Just look at women on my 600 pound life. All those women have husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:07 AM
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Because the looks thing is not part of the conversation. It goes without saying if you are dating/ attempting to date someone. You are physically attracted to them in some capacity.. No, it’s not. Are you serious? It’s literally become Paramount in the blue pill that looks don’t matter. So much so it’s become a meme. How many times do you hear from blue pill, just be confident, bro just be nice bro, just have a personality, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:01 AM
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Please show me what a dad bod looks like because women have terrible definitions of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:55 AM
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You know nothing about men, If you think a guy can glow up just by going to the gym and practicing good hygiene and orthodontics. The vast majority of women don’t even want to date a guy shorter than them or even dated Guy outside of the race for that matter. Not to mention age is a huge factor when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:46 AM
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Dude, are you listening to what this guy is saying? There is no catch and release here. The men are not even being caught in the first place is the whole point. You’re talking about a bar which don’t apply to the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:43 AM
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How have you seen men stepping on their own dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:38 AM
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Dude, you can’t be serious with the study. This says 78% of men who get “matches on Tinder” have casual sex not 78% of men in general. And we all know that the majority of men that used Tinder don’t get matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:36 AM
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So the bar is only referred to men that you already consider as a partner. Which is going to be a very small minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:52 AM
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This is such a ridiculous claim. The vast majority of men to even be slightly looked at by women have to be extremely attractive(this includes hygiene), have a high status job(which usually requires you to dress well), and make hundreds of thousand dollars(gather skills that require you to be functioning). This idea that the bar is on the floor only applies to attractive misogynistic men that you constantly give chances to. The reality is there are many men out there who would be willing to take…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:51 AM
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Okay you’re saying all of this unfounded stuff but it doesn’t stop you from being wrong based on the results. The men that red pill decides women don’t like are the very men who have beautiful and loving girlfriends and wives. You have no evidence for this claim that the so called “low value men” are dating so called beautiful women. Too many women call other women beautiful when they are just not or just average. I see this all the time you people do it with people like Lizzo. You guys treat wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:56 AM
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How do you get sex in the first place without dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:48 AM
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You have to be attractive enough to attract a woman to have sex with the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:16 AM
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It’s not about what you have to do it’s what can you do. Most men only have women below their league to date due to hypergamy, even if they do have a good personality. Also usually men are shamed and called fatophic by women if they have a standard on weight. Just look at what happens when men say they wouldn’t date a girl like lizzo You say as long as you have normal looks you should be able to get into a relationship with an average woman, however you don’t seem to realize how high the bar is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:33 PM
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Relationships are not only based on personality. If this was the case, you would always just date your female friends. But you don’t because the reality is just like personality, physical attraction is also a requirement for dating. This is why men get friendzoned even when they have a great personality. But even with all this said, you still didn’t answer the question. How do you know the person you are talking to has a bad personality when you never even met the person?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:14 PM
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There are multiple reasons for this The women has settled due to struggling in the past with other guys, usually out of her league, so she chooses the guy she really doesn’t want as a last resort The guy has another factor attracting the women like money, so he is using his wallet to provide for women that don’t actually like him Inaccurate rating of attractiveness. The man is not as ugly as you are saying or the woman is not as pretty. A lot of women do this due to brainwashing from feminism(wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:58 PM
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Again that’s all fine and dandy but again how do you know a specific man does that? Why is it impossible for women on here to wrap their head around the idea that there are other reasons for men to struggle in the dating market that aren’t related to behavior? Not every man just views women as a sex object, like actual genuine nice guys who struggle actually do exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:52 PM
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Because men like women are visual creatures it’s literally in our dna to breed with people who have good genes. Also just because men aren’t whining doesn’t mean they are satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:30 AM
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Most men getting laid is an irrelevant sentence on its own. What matters with how and who they are getting laid. Most men usually have a problem of dating and sleeping with their looksmatch with genuine intentions. Because i can guarantee most men would not be happy with they only got pussy from 600 pound women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:42 PM
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Where are you getting this idea from that women(even non-shallow ones)don’t have a baseline for looks? Also, how are you defining likable here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:19 AM
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At least somebody’s not delusional on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:52 AM
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What did you do to work on yourself specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:51 AM
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Why do you think that saying get a “better personality” is good advice for the men on here, when you never interact with them or seen their behaviors on date?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:18 PM
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I didn’t downvote you lol. Also I don’t live in Nashville anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:44 AM
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What are you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:10 PM
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Are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:36 AM
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What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:05 AM
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apparently it takes genetics to get thinner buffer have a good fashion sense, taking care of hygiene If you knew anything about physical attraction, you would know you need way more than that to attract good quality women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:45 AM
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Yeah usually because they are extremely attractive and Tinder is a cesspool for shallow people. Also how are you defining successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:28 PM
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whats wrong with asking for peer reviews of Tinder profiles for one? Also I said before how does personality and Tinder even relate? Again you can look through my posts the last comment I made on their was over two years ago. What do you mean by complaining? All i have said is that minorities suffer more in the dating world relative to whites and im an example of that. My identity is not about getting laid, dude. I have other hobbies I just dont post about them on the internet. All you done is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:25 PM
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Bro, you are EXCEPTIONALLY mentally ill. You've taken PEDs aka artificial hormones to improve your chances to meet another mate. It is obvious to literally everyone else but you. Your traps and shoulders just look way too juicy. I am not on PEDs and you have no evidence to prove otherwise. Quit coping, some people have good body genetics and some have bad body genetics. You literally know nothing about fitness if you think my "shoulders and traps" are juicy. There are proven naturals like MattDo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:12 PM
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Again, I don’t post my face on looksmaxx constantly even when I was on there, I made two posts of myself How are profile reviews relevant to personality mattering? You can’t see somebody’s personality from a tinder profile. Blue pillers literally say this all the time and it’s the reason they give for why Tinder is not a good place to meet people. I have never complained about not getting laid on the Internet. I don’t know where you’re getting these crazy exaggerations from. You are literally de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:39 PM
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Dude, what are you talking about? I have not been on looksmaxx.org for over two years now. Also, you literally know nothing about me other than Internet comments. You have no basis to say women don’t like me due to me being mentally ill. I actually have lots of friends(female and male) and I dating has improved over the past five years due to me getting certain surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:33 PM
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Says the person randomly replying to my comment, that has nothing to do with him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:25 PM
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I’m not a Gymcel. My body count is 15. And I have dated before. I was using myself as an example to show that my dating life is not improved from gaining muscle. Also, being black is a huge factor. I’ve literally been rejected by women who said they didn’t wanna date me because I’m black even though they said I had a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:25 PM
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Money, The last piece to my alpha Chad transformation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:03 PM
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I disagree. of course social interactions are important. The way you talk to women are important, but the reality is that you can still have “good game” but you still need to be actually facially attractive to the woman you’re talking to. Blackpillers, even believe this too, that’s why they have the word mentalcel in their community. You can be as funny and friendly as you want but if the girl in question is not attracted to you, it’s not going to happen. Like I said once instead of 1 million ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:02 PM
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150 pounds in each hand that’s why I’m literally talking about. I know multiple people who can do that. Hell I can do that. I don’t know what cuck gym you go to where you think that’s impressive. No offense. 150 dumbbells doesn’t put me into elite status Dude reread my comment. Pressing 150 pound dumbbells doesn’t put you into a elite status, if you are over 200 pounds women are impressed by 80 pound dumbbells Of course, their women out there who impressed by that. Their women out there who impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:58 PM
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I’m natural I don’t have a stack
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:24 PM
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A feat like benching 150 pounds is only impressive if you’re greatly under 200 pounds. Mass moves mass this is this fitness 101. Also of course Gymcels are on PEDs because most of them are delusional. They haven’t come to the conclusion, face matters the most. Again, it only improves your chances if you have the other physical features to match it . For example, face and height. of course women analyze other traits, but even with these traits, you can still be rejected. I know so many who are so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:23 PM
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I have not taken PEDs. I’m sorry, but you know nothing about fitness if you think I did. People who actually take PEDs look way bigger than I do. I’ve been working out for a very long time. You are correct it is for my mental health, but not in the way that you’re thinking. More of to have a clear mind daily. True the male gaze and female gaze is a thing. But my argument with the OP is that he thinks that having good fitness or “ general good health” can improve your prospects, which is not true…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:03 PM
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My point is that for some people their rejection rate doesn’t change just because they improve them selves by “just having good health” bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:43 PM
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I live Huntsville, Alabama. Why does that matter Shouldn’t you just be able to improve enough to where women like you? Even if it’s a small number.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:29 PM
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Why does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:24 PM
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Damn so you still need to be tall tall to stand a chance at proper slaying. I thought my 5’11” ass was gonna walk in there and have a good time but I guess not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:24 PM
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There are many people who do that and still don’t get anything when it comes to attraction. It’s why Gymcels exist. I exercise every day get good haircuts and I still barely can attract women. Photo for proof. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:22 PM
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How tall was the tall guy and how short was the short guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:15 PM
1

What’s the lol for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:16 AM
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I can only really comment on guys, but the best time is in your mid 20s and by u/giantimplants
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:23 AM
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Well, it’s not about what surgery it’s about when you get them done why and by who
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:27 PM
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Depends on the surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:04 AM
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It doesn’t matter if it’s still not enough though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:44 AM
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Yeah, and most of these women in that industry go up like two points at the most after multiple surgeries
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:35 PM
1

That’s not possible for most
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:31 PM
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No put I’m not delusional about there being “no men to date”. There is no men you LIKE to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:44 PM
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If Intimate relationships are based on physical attraction, why do so many people on here say otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:26 AM
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How do you know this? What are you basing this off of? Also IRL doesn’t really work that much better than the apps, especially when it comes to cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:21 AM
3

Date uglier men then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:51 AM
3

Why does it matter to date of the same ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:24 AM
3

Your statement doesn’t necessarily imply they’re dating people out of their league. You can be of the same SMV level and still date a guy who only wants short term
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:13 AM
3

Where is your evidence for this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:01 AM
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What about the obvious of them choosing men out of their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:59 AM
1

What circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:37 AM
1

I thought looks didn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:18 AM
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I just decided to get a hair transplant instead. Problem is I don’t really have enough hair for it to look even all around, but I don’t want to get SMP because my skull shape is fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:04 AM
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Why do people always assume this? Also if looks don’t matter why would it matter what type of women I would date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:03 AM
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I’m 5’11”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:20 AM
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Imo that’s not gaslighting. It probably is his terrible personality, or lack there of. But on top of that it’s also most likely because he’s ugly, has deplorable hygiene, and makes women uncomfortable in general. How do you know this, though when you can barely even spoken to the person? Do you think it’s even possible for people to be rejected based on their looks for the majority of the relationships they try to form?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:34 PM
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Why do people think that every person on here is just an autistic reject?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:11 PM
3

Where’d you get this number from? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:01 PM
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I’m not talking about that. Angry people will do what angry people want to do. What I’m talking about is how people will mention things like race, preventing and limiting people from getting dates. But when a blackpiller comes on here and talks about how he can’t get a date because of his height, everybody seems to gaslight him and say oh, it’s just because of your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:59 AM
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This is a very interesting take considering I’m one of smaller guys in my gym. I don’t think of myself as big at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:57 AM
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I am trying to move. The people a mixture of classes from lower to upper middle class. But there isn’t much difference in dating there. I’m surprised you guys believe in discrimination based off looks here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:25 AM
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I don’t walk around with an angry face. Actually people say I smile too much sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:04 AM
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Why jump to that conclusion then? Women have said they don’t date me because of my race
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:14 AM
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Then I would recommend just shaving your head. Have you tried any treatments for growing your beard or biotin? I’m not shaving my head lol. I look terrible bald. Also I’m taking minoxidil but it’s barely helping. This is likely the issue. Most women prefer their own race. You may need to move or travel. I trying to move. Thank you for not gaslighting me that’s it’s my “confidence and game”. Most people aren’t honest here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:38 AM
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I can’t grow dreads. I’m balding and the fin is making my beard hard to grow. I don’t try to get women out of my race. But I live in heavily white areas so that’s all what’s around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:13 AM
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It’s over for all men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:10 AM
3

Okay then what is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:10 AM
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60% of men single under the age of 30 are single
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:30 PM
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I struggle with dating and look like this. Should I be struggling? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:03 PM
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Yeah, but you have to be genetically gifted first for that to work. If somebody is not gifted them watching porn isn’t going to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:28 PM
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Questionable ideas like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:27 PM
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I would say black pillers do acknowledge social skills, though, that’s why they have the term mentalcel in their community. Because you can’t be a complete autistic person and expect to get women. Also, you cannotbe high inhibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:27 PM
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So why do people shit on black pilllers so much here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:39 PM
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I’m curious, what’s the difference between you and a black piller when you say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:40 PM
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Then it’s all just random and nothing truly matters. Not game, not looks not money nothing matters. It’s all just luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:34 PM
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Six figures is 100k pookie. Also even a person in the top 5% is not making anywhere close to 500 K which would be the actual number to start getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:33 AM
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You’re not getting shit making a 100k. That’s literally middle class wage now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:57 AM
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Louder for the people in the fucking back!!!🗣️🗣️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 AM
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If you were constantly around gay guys and you could get one of them to fuck you whenever you wanted, would you consider that an advantage or a privilege? Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:27 AM
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Because when a guy doesn’t get a girlfriend because he said he’s not attractive enough, you guys gaslight him
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:58 PM
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Bro, you just pulled that stat out of your ass. The most overweight demographic is black women and Latino man. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:49 PM
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You can do this if you are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:25 AM
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This sounds like a huge larp
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:28 PM
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These things are both true, but it seems that people think one doesn’t matter while the other one does
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:07 PM
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It barely helps what really helps us having a good face, race, and height
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:06 PM
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What do you mean what is so difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:53 AM
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If you’re being approached by 21-year-olds, you’re not slightly above average in looks. You are way above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:13 AM
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How are men acting like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:06 AM
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If you’re talking about snowbunnies, that’s an extremely small subset of a white women and usually those white women are not very attractive or extremely overweight. Also, finding attractive black women is extremely hard on these sites due to the fact that black women in general are extremely overweight. As a black guy, you can be the total package, but still not be chosen just due to the fact that you’re black. Racism is still alive and well and Eurocentric beauty standards still dominate socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:03 AM
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Are you also 6 foot and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:57 AM
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If women cared about hot bodies, Gymcels wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:46 AM
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Every man here has tried
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:44 AM
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That dude is a dishonest hack
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:35 AM
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The rate of single young men not having sex is almost sky high now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:53 PM
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This is not just true for him. This is true for 99% of men. This is why men take women out on dates. stop acting like the majority of men can get women to have sex with them or go out with them without providing financial compensation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:52 PM
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What else is Timmy supposed to do if he wants to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:26 PM
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You absolutely should. People are commodified all the time. Just look at OF girls and how much money they make every single year. Commodified is not always a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:38 AM
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Why does it matter if if you’re commodified, or preyed on? This means you have value and value can be liquefied
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:36 AM
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strange how you never said if he actually gets women or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:50 PM
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The way you talk about blackpillers on here says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:07 AM
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The only reason you get backlash is because you don’t take into consideration that looks are also a core ingredient. Just because somebody is funny doesn’t mean I’m going to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:11 PM
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I would say this is not true for most cases. Birds of feather flock together. Most people aren’t going to be friends with people with drastically, different personality traits like that because those can seep into friendships too not just romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:35 PM
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What you guys don’t realize is height matters relative to other peoples heights. You’re right that 5’10” is not short, but if the average height in an area is 6’1” then it is short.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:10 AM
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I put my height as 6 foot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:08 AM
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I’m 5’10” in an average height city of 6’1”. my city has a little over 200k, and no, I don’t swirl exclusively but my city is mainly white so it’s difficult to not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:07 AM
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5’10”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:04 AM
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You need to be physically attractive too. You don’t date your friends. Plus, there aren’t really too many partner traits that differ from friend traits personality wise
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:46 AM
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No im not top 5%, I’m a minority and short
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:00 AM
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Yes, it didn’t fix my ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:00 PM
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Yeah, that’s what people don’t understand. You literally need to be the top 5% to have any chance you can’t even be slightly ugly. Do I look Mexican lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:51 PM
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Which nightly news lol. But even if what you’re saying is true, men still be delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:26 PM
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Bios are irrelevant if the girl doesn’t find you attractive in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:24 PM
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Women are men are different they do not have the same dating reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:10 PM
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You would be surprised. Most people aren’t chronically online like we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:10 PM
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Because guys don’t know the statistics. And men a lot like women are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:07 PM
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A lot of men don’t meet those requirements that’s the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:07 PM
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Very few male profiles would have the benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:02 PM
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Weight does not matter all that matters is what your face looks like and height
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:02 PM
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Even males profile who don’t have those things still don’t get likes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:49 PM
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Gym is only works if you are already facially attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:44 PM
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Location is a huge factor to people don’t realize. If you’re ethnic and live in a sundown town, you will get no matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:44 PM
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What do you look like? Because if you’re white and 6 foot you’re already doing better than 90% of your competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:43 PM
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I’m sorry but this is just not true. Looks are the most important thing for online dating and no amount of “taking good photos is gonna change that”. If you were an ugly ethnic male and you take good photos you’re just going to be an ugly ethnic male in 4k. I myself get very few likes on dating apps and the likes I do get usually aren’t from my female gaze like photos. u/Involved_Currently needs to realize people have limits. If you don’t believe just look at my profile. https://imgur.com/galler…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:42 PM
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All of this ratings number bullshit (2/10, 4/10, 6.85/10…) is one of the things fucking you up. Most people date someone on their level. There are no 2/10’s dating 4/10’s or whatever because none of that shit is real buddy. Whatever you like it or not ugly, below average, average, above average, and pretty people exist in this world that is real shit. Just because consciously you are not putting a number to your head doesn't mean subconsciously its not happening. We all agree generally on who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:43 AM
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Not necessarily Yes necessarily, i see too many guys overrate women(even the ones of tell people not to put women on pedestal), when they will give women that they fuck or date and call them 8/10s when they are really 4/10s all because they arent super overweight or something. This is why I never believe PUA/redpill losers when they say I fuck a lot of girls because most of the time the girls they are fucking are extremely facially challenged. The woman in that relationship is “dating someone ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:06 PM
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Those guys who figure it out are usually dating extremely ugly women or started dating back in 1975. Also, of course there are other factors that come to getting a woman but a lot of these relationships are not genuine. ex: sugar daddy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:08 PM
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This is all fine and dandy, but what if I go throughout my whole life doing multiple hobbies and I have nobody ever interested in me to where I can take that shot?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:06 PM
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You still have to be physically attractive though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 09:49 PM
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How do I deviate towards being white and 6 foot plus?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 09:37 PM
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If women really are trying to take you back to their car, then it sounds like you’re a veryprivileged position. the majority of men will never have the experience no matter how much they are just there for fun and beat themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 09:05 PM
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What are you talking about the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:07 PM
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Not really, but not much helps these days
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:52 PM
2

Can you give me an example of how you changed your social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:19 PM
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give me an example of banter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:02 PM
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am not talking about opinions im talking about conservations where men try to hit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:02 PM
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Stands aside from others and stares in an intense manner with a hateful scowl as though he dislikes everyone and wishes he weren’t there. do you believe the average man does this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:01 PM
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My problem is people, wont be able to give good examples of social skills and confidence but are quick to say men dont have it, when they dont even know what they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:59 PM
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I would argue that having an intense stare would be an example of bad social skill, nobody wants someone else staring into their soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:57 PM
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Social Skills (Dating) - Guy banters in a way that keeps things fun and tension filled with the girl in a way that is fun for both What is an example of good banter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:56 PM
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b) Some guys just don't know how to flirt, although, they can chat and make friends with people. Okay can you give me an example of flirting? Because it seems when some men do its considered creepy but when others do it, it is seen as masculine, even when both sides say the same thing f) The minority of men has really unfortunate appearance and they struggle due to it. At least your honest. Watch though the mods, might come after you for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:54 PM
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Strange, because it seems like people can so easily tell online, when they tell off men they have never met before in real lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:42 PM
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The only people I have every heard of doing this are old men with no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:41 PM
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Examples of a lack of social skills: a person can’t make friends, they constantly keep silent during conversations, they don’t notice or respect others’ boundaries etc. A personal example here is a guy from uni who told me straight in the face that women go to college to find a boyfriend and then continued rumbled about his evil exes. Do you think the average person does this? Because the majority of men have friends but the majority of men have difficultly getting a girlfriend. So what separate…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:35 PM
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do you think the average man is behaving like this though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:31 PM
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Lots of people. You would be very surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:39 PM
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Now, can you give an example when somebody isn’t doing doing those things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:36 PM
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Can you please give me an example when a man offended you? Like what did he say?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:34 PM
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women dont do that in general. its not a location thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:21 PM
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Nobody asked you to be. Thats not my point. If only personality matters for a relationship, why do friends not date each other? Since you said that looks dont matter, and nobody is going to be friends with somebody with a bad personality or bad social skills, what other factor causes two freinds not to date? You don't get that social skills are about interacting with real people. You want some kind of lazy, stupid, easy to understand formula to follow because the idea that you would adapt and le…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:17 PM
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Guys don’t rate women, the same way women rate guys. Guys find the majority of women very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:16 AM
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This is also an easy one. Don’t have sex with the men that you approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:04 AM
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Beggars can’t be choosers my guy. Learn to pick your battles. Young marriages,likely to end in divorce Is this even true? What’s the percentage of marriages that end in divorce that start out young versus old? Also, if this is a problem, just get married when you’re older. not having any sex at all until you’re financially emotionally ready which means a decade of your horniness years with no sex Welcome to the life of the average man. marrying someone you are sexually incompatible with Get rema…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:02 AM
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Why not just use birth control or IUD and do the math there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:57 AM
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If you don’t wanna have sex with your partner, then don’t have sex with them if you don’t wanna get used simple simple
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:47 AM
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The solution to this is so easy just don’t have sex with your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:47 AM
1

So why is it that most sexual relationships have some type of transaction in them, whether that be dates or straight up money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:36 PM
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Of course dudes prefer to split the bill because they’re not trying to get fucked over on the first date. Also, I would love to see a source where the majority of successful first dates the dude is splitting the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:35 PM
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Chads don’t have to pay for dates. The average man does have to pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:40 AM
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But women don’t have to put on make up, they choose that. Men do, however, have to pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:00 PM
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what guy on here is saying he wouldnt fuck an ugly woman, other than the obvious red pill copers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:07 PM
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yeah and that standard is alive and breathing(for most cases unfortunately )
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:58 PM
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curious, how do you meet the women you have casual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:56 PM
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what u/lgtv354 is arguing is that for women, when it comes to the sexual interaction for most there needs to be an exchange. For example if im a gay guy, I can go up to another gay guy and ask if he wants to have sex with me, and he will say yes with no, "ifs", "ands", or "buts" about it. However, when it comes to a straight guy asking women for sex there needs to be some type of compensation for the majority of women, but in general women typically don't just like randomly doing it, even if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:50 PM
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are you 6ft+ and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:45 PM
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do you think if the majority of men could get sex for free, they would still take women out on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:43 PM
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why do men give it to all women, but women dont give it to all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:40 PM
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I literally was one until I started increasing my facial attractiveness and I wasn’t any of the things you described. I also know a lot of people who are that personally and are way stronger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:51 AM
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No, that's pre-covid data - pre-COVID data was that 32 percent of men were obese and 40 percent of men were overweight. At the time women swiped rougly on 1 in 4. 1 in 4 is 25 percent. 100-32-40 = 28. 28 is about 25. Your correlating two things that shouldn't be correlated. The majority of people who are overweight or obese are usually people who are extremely old(over the age of 40) or are in relationships. While most people on dating apps are under the age of 25 and single. The people that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:32 PM
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Bad social skills. I am an attractive man who was friend-zoned constantly once I opened my mouth until I learning how to properly interact with people and women specifically. Why would I want to be friends with somebody who has bad social skills? The literal of point of being a friend is so you can have somebody to talk. That's because you're taking advice from people who don't know what they are talking about. Social skills are about charisma, confidence, emotional intelligence, and knowing spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:27 PM
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Again, check my posts No it doesn't, women swipe on less than 5% of men while only about 40% of men are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:17 PM
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im actually 13% but nice try though. Not everybody on the internet is complaining fatty. Some people are just actually ugly. If you dont believer me you can look at my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:48 PM
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PUA training isn't the same has having actual social skills and charisma. Most of the PUA stuff is cringe as hell. How are they different then? Because most PUAs tend to talk about how to navigate social situations. But back in the real world, social skills are king. I used to be very shy, socially awkward, and especially bad with women. Despite the fact I was quite good looking when I was in my late teens / early 20's that didn't help at all. If social skills are king, why do men get friend zon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:45 PM
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Even if this is true the majority of people dont have good bone structure even if they did get down to a low body fat percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:23 PM
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As a person who has tried to be the best looking that he can be I that’s bullshit. Looks absolutely matter, you can’t walk into a place expecting girls to be attracted to you even with “ charisma” because all that does is put you in the friend zone. I know this person through people who have done the whole “PUA charming garbage ”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:22 PM
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thats rule 5 not rule 6. Rule 6 is no incel/black pill content.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:30 PM
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i wouldnt say every guy can date a landwhale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:47 PM
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why does rule 6 exist when people say stuff like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:22 PM
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It’s not about it being different. It’s about it getting closer to that reality. 20 years ago, the majority of men under the age of 30 were not single
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:49 PM
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63% of males in the US under 30 are single. What OP described is becoming more and more the average male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:11 PM
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if you think im doing a what about ism. then obviously we are not talking about the same thing. You can argue about basement dwellers who do nothing all you want, since thats what you seem to be obsessed with. I dont why you arent able to see i was never talking about them in the first place. But i guess that puts us at an impass. good day to you sir
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:24 PM
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are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:17 PM
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this is the correct answer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:13 PM
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OK, we’re gonna go over this slowly so you can understand. I don’t care about people who constantly want don’t try obviously nobody should(remember the word constantly here that’s really important). But in the real world, most people don’t behave like that and that’s why I talk about why you shouldn’t gaslight others into thinking that they’re not trying hard enough because most people are. That’s who we’re talking about here, you’re doing the what about ism talking about people who never want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:47 PM
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One how do you know those people didn’t put in an effort? How do you know they haven’t been trying for the past how long of their lives? And because they received no results, they stopped. you’ve made so many assumptions. Do you not believe that people need kickstart to their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:29 PM
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Your question exactly was: can a person who is not working make more than the person who is working and I said yes. An example of that was a trust fund baby. What part of that are you not understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:22 PM
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OK buddy. Even though I clearly said a trust fund kid can make more than a person who is working on a farm. Sounds like you’re one here making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:13 PM
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What do you consider not working? If I’m a sugar baby or a trust fund kid am I not working?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:04 AM
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Bro, I literally just gave the reason why are you so dense? Because some people need reinforcement as I said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:04 AM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:03 AM
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What did your brother look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:45 AM
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Bro, as I’ve already said before, if somebody is constantly down on themselves sure give up on them, but there are people who with a little reinforcement can pick themselves up, but they still need the reinforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:29 AM
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Nobody spinning anything here. You keep acting like things are black-and-white, but they’re obviously not. Society is complicated. In life you were competing with everybody not just your group. So as I said, before, the answer is yes a person who works less than another person can make more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:28 AM
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I’m not talking about the people who give up even when they are giving reinforcement I’m talking about the people who are only able to start up when they are giving reinforcement. I don’t know what’s up with you, red pill adjacent types, thinking that we are all just anime characters with limitless amounts of optimism. At the end of the day limits still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:25 AM
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In some instances, yeah. Just look at TikTokers who make millions of dollars making one TikTok video. Or attractive women who post one video for only fans. These people make thousands of dollars compared to farmers who work 20 hours a day or blue collar workers who work 80 hours weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:05 AM
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Do you know what I’ll give you an answer to that. Because a lot of the time people need help in society because it takes a village to raise a child and people usually can’t do things on their own. People need encouragement and reinforcement. That’s how people thrive in society. That’s why people should still believe in others who don’t believe in themselves because sometimes people need a kickstart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:04 AM
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I know what you said. I’m just curious on your opinion on how likely a person in a third world country to become rich if they worked on a farm for 16 hours a day
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:02 AM
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Bro, you’re literally being dense on purpose. But OK, I’ll play your game. let’s say I do believe in myself and I still don’t get any girls. What do I do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:45 AM
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Do you think if a farmer in a third world country works for 16 hours a day he’ll end up a billionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:44 AM
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Also what’s with you red pillers and calling everything an excuse? If a person is living in a thrid world country and isn’t the billionaire by 35 is it is that an excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:55 PM
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What was your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:53 PM
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Again, it’s not about believing yourself read the comment I said above. People don’t care about confidence unless that confidence is backed up by some objective reality. You can be as confident as you like, but if you are ugly, there are people out there who will still reject you. If this concept didn’t exist, you wouldn’t have people obsessing over things like surgery and people getting friendzoned all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:04 AM
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How do you think about yourself is irrelevant if the world considers otherwise. If you are 5’1” balding and a minority(I know this is an exaggeration, but my point still stands), it doesn’t matter how confident you are. You are still going to be cut off from a certain portion of the population when it comes to romantic prospects. Because like it or not women still have requirements for men, despite how confident they are. Also, there are a lot of men who still approach first. I think we need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:26 AM
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Like when you go to a bar on a Friday night, how many women will look at you on that night?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:57 PM
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No what I’m asking is, on a night out how often do you get women giving you IOI
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:38 PM
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So white pretty much. Are you 6 foot or above?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:37 PM
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That’s not the point I’m making. I’m saying that when it comes to getting women they’re limits to what people can get and due to how screwed up the dating market has gotten as a guy if you can’t get past a five in SMV the best you will attract is like a three for girls. The problem is too many people on here think you can just keep grinding bro and keep grinding bro. The reality is that most people won’t ever get past a five because that wouldn’t be average anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:37 PM
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Also how much IOI do you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:37 PM
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Are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:30 PM
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It’s not about what I want, it’s about what is available to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:29 PM
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Where are you meeting these married women at?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:28 PM
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The something in question for average looking men: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:21 PM
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Because approaching is useless in this day and age, unless you are top 10% at least when it comes to decently attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:29 PM
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Good ol supply and demand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:25 AM
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Are you white also?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:02 PM
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And people here especially mods will say it looks don’t matter. It’s fucking disgusting. I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again looks are the most important thing when it comes to starting relationships. Honestly, if I was president, I would plastic surgery mandatory for every single citizen. It be like South Korea in this bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:54 AM
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That guy is literally tall and white. Not to mention, he literally does grooming before he goes out and tries to pick up girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:26 AM
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Yes, and the same goes for attractiveness. But the difference is charisma, Can only make up for so much. Attractiveness can make up for a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:22 PM
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Yeah, but the point is is that just because you have charisma doesn’t mean you can automatically get a girl. like physical requirements are important for women also
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:16 PM
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Why is this peoples always first decision? Like I see so many Chad type people who have no charisma and are blatantly dicks. But they still get women very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:28 AM
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Don’t most study show that women aren’t even attracted to the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:02 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:55 AM
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You can make that argument sure. And I would even agree with you that men are being conned. But you can’t say they aren’t trying. And that was my main argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:17 PM
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I meant both lazy in the terms of wanting to work, and being lazy in the terms of wanting to get women. I was just showing that study as an example. But if you’re talking about getting women, then you can just look at every single podcaster and red pill YouTuber, that has grown over in the past year. Not to mention all of these men that are on their sigma male grind sets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:06 AM
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https://20somethingfinance.com/american-hours-worked-productivity-vacation/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:22 AM
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I’m sorry, but this is just an incredible just world fallacy. How do you know if he wasn’t trying to improve? How do you know he didn’t try doing everything in his power, but even his best wasn’t enough? All of your arguments are made on assumptions that people are just lazy. When most studies show they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:37 AM
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Whether I sound like is irrelevant. It doesn’t change the truth of the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:40 AM
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Being single doesn’t mean not having sex For most men it does, the majority of men are not pulling women from bars. That is actually a very rare phenomenon. Data shows the majority of men have sex within relationships. > by your own stats 2/3rds of men are having sex with little issue. Yeah because they are in a relationship or paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:09 PM
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But I’ve also seen women do it with some ugly dudes imo. These situations usually happen when the woman has ugly herself and even the top man doesn’t want her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:34 PM
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You have any evidence for that? Because most men are men single, and most men have sex through relationships. Not to mention almost 1/3 of men haven’t had sex within the past year. And those numbers are diligently increasing every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:32 PM
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Compared to the average man. The average man is unattractive to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:31 PM
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I’m not talking about people they’re in relationships with I’m talking about attractive men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:30 PM
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Stick with men who do the worst shit This is usually because those men are extremely attractive or the top one, percentile
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:21 PM
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Women are forgiving with men they’re already attracted to which is the small proportion of men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:11 PM
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And tons of fat men also date non fat women This is usually because these men have money or are providing in someway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:10 PM
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it may have been better, but men were still being left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:57 PM
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Dating was not fine the 90s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:40 AM
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Just making an observation with trends i see
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:21 PM
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Curious to know, was this guy 6 foot and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:34 AM
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It’s called a joke my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:32 PM
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Your flair says Gen X, not Boomer. Looks like you’re the one who can’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:59 PM
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No, I just don't consume internet memes for boomers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:23 PM
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So what are these men supposed to do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:40 PM
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Who the fuck is Jan?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:39 PM
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Because im curious of the stories of men who actually get laid with ease. I dont care about the reason behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:03 PM
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​ problem. Your problem being that you're so obsessed with height/race/location/whateverelse that it's off-putting. And therefore likely that it's your attitude that is keeping you from getting laid. Not your looks. You know nothing about me and how I act in real life. I dont go just asking people their height or race. The only reason I do online because I dont know what people look like online. If I'm picking up on this over mere text, I can only imagine how off-putting it is to women IRL. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:02 PM
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How am I looking for confirmation bias? I already know the answer, im just curious to see anecdotes for that answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:56 PM
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Yeah cuz im curious to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:56 PM
1

what is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:54 PM
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How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:54 PM
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what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:52 PM
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You ignored my second part when I was talking about when you met these women. Also, if they’re strippers, there seems to be a financial component here that you’re missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:50 AM
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Gay men marry less than any route that married less has lower divorce rates That’s not how rates work. rate is per capita
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:46 AM
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I’m not talking about your attractiveness I’m talking about your wife’s attractiveness. Also, even if she is more attractive than you it doesn’t really matter because you probably met her before 2015 when dating was a lot easier because social media and dating apps weren’t really a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:37 AM
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Honestly, I don’t believe you, because too many people exaggerate their attractiveness. We have way too many people who believe their tens and eights when they’re really like fives and sixes. Also, you were dating before dating apps and social media so of course the score is going to be easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:31 AM
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Just because it’s dark and depressing doesn’t mean it’s not true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:20 AM
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Are you fucking fat girls or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:18 AM
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I guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:40 PM
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It’s not lots of women it’s literally half.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:18 PM
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Over 60 Percent of men under the age of 30 are single. How is that a lot of guys doing fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:09 PM
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So I’m curious to know in your mind, if some guy started going to the gym and putting on lots of weight and becoming a bloated strongman. Do you think red pillers would be OK with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:00 PM
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Yeah and I’m debating which groups have advantages even to comes to sexual encounters
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:59 PM
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We’re debating if certain groups have advantages over others
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:06 AM
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Really putting the “debate” in PurplePillDebate there buddy 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:26 AM
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How is it absurd, When we know the advantages some groups of people have over others?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:04 AM
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Why is that banned and not talk about going to the gym? Redpillers say go to gym so you can improve your body and look better. How is that different to making your face better?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:01 AM
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Bro is yapping hard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:58 AM
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That’s all fine and dandy, but how did you meet her at school at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:57 AM
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Yeah, do you have it all written down somewhere of all the girls you slept with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:57 AM
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Nobody said that. Just asking a question is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:56 AM
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I do all those things already, and still barely get anything. Also, saying your height and race will satisfy me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:55 AM
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are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:16 PM
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how tall are you then? And what is your race?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:14 PM
1

Another reason why we should get rid of rule 6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:12 PM
1

how did you meet this girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:03 PM
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how do you know that? Also how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:48 PM
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curious to know are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:46 PM
1

curious to know are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:46 PM
1

where overseas?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:46 PM
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’ll add dressing better and hitting the gym is red pill and also blue pill often. Black pillers tend to be the ones to reject that Dont most blackpillers talk about looksmaxxing and going to get facial surgery to improve? Its not all woe-is-me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:50 PM
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What's with this just world fallacy ideology? How do you know those men weren't trying to go out and date and were constantly rejected, despite doing things like "being yourself and being nice to women"? If dating were that easy subs like this wouldn't even exist in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:46 PM
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how do you know who is black pilled and who isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:01 AM
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How do you expect them to get dating experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:45 PM
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When they say older women are attractive to older men they are talking about men in their 30s and 40s. Not men in their 60s. Men of that age are paying for their relationships. There is no true physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:25 PM
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Older men to get women because they just pay for it or just do betabuxxing with extra steps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:59 AM
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It’s crazy that mods say stuff like this. And still have rule 9 into affect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:57 AM
1

Can you give a specific example of where you did this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:14 AM
1

This all seems very vague. Can I get some specifics, please
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:03 PM
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This all seems very looks focused. It seems like money only played a small part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:18 PM
1

Are you bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:04 PM
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Finally someone with some common sense in this sub Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:01 PM
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This is literally me, but you cannot believe me if you don’t want to I guess https://imgur.com/gallery/z9bzdUh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:39 PM
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Women have made comments, but most of them are usually very unattractive or old. And no when I have sex with women none of them talk about how attractive my muscles are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:13 AM
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I am in shape I have an FFMI of 25
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:12 AM
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Yeah but I’m saying that some people get into great shape and don’t get better faces from it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:21 AM
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Deformities, or misaligned proportions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:21 AM
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I’m literally 25 FFMI
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:20 AM
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You’re lying about the fact that the reason you’re getting more women it’s because you’re more physically fit, but the actual reason is because you’re more physically attractive in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:15 AM
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Were these women ugly or old?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:14 AM
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This can only happen if you were extremely obese
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:14 AM
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Are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:07 PM
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Exercising barely increases your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:56 PM
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Bro stop lying, you literally dropped 70 pounds of course you get more attention, you probably don’t even look like the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:54 PM
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Muscle is a multiplier. But anything times zero is still zero
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:49 PM
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Treatment for men, yes there’s a difference. Treatment for women, not much at all. I’m 25 FFMI btw
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:48 PM
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I’m sorry this is just not true. Studies show time and time again that despite having a great personality if a man is shorter than a women, the women will not wan to date him. The friend zone exists for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:43 PM
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Women only want the top 20%, so I wouldn’t worry about that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:29 PM
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Do women approach you? Also curious to know are you 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:29 PM
1

That rarely happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:40 AM
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90% of guys don’t get signs of interest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:46 PM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:41 PM
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You can say what you want, but that’s the main reason why men go to the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:04 PM
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They’re still not getting laid either way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:57 AM
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What’s a mandatory gym membership gonna do? You red pillers always push the gym gym gym all the time. The gym is not some magical bullet that gets you pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:56 AM
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Wait, why do you care to get surgery if you already have a significant other?
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 03:36 PM
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Why not just get surgery to make your breast bigger?
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 04:38 AM
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Why not get surgery to fix your face if you make so much money
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 04:37 AM
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How is being over 6 foot taking care of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:33 AM
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The majority of men do not meet the height requirements to receive respect for men and the attraction from women. Would be one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:51 PM
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both
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:28 PM
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Very few men are not likeable and that amount of men wouldnt be enough to be able to create a sub like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:32 PM
1

Why did you get more attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:23 PM
1

I’m curious to know then what is the percentage of getting a date through cold approach is looks versus confidence and charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:53 AM
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What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:44 PM
1

Still crazy how everybody will agree with this, but you still will ban people who break rule 9
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:43 PM
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It’s men like you for why the dating market is fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:09 AM
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How was this dude alpha? He was literally crying in front of the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:02 AM
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No, what we learn from this is that things like holding frame and not crying in front of a girl doesn’t matter if you’re attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:01 AM
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sex drive is a bitch
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 08:57 PM
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Lol. That’s what they all say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:21 PM
1

What is my rating 1-10?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:57 AM
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So what do you think is going on? Do you have an idea? I think I’m ugly due to my asymmetry in my face. My facial bloat. Also my problem is the fact I’m black in the south. Brave of you to straight up put your photo online btw. Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:27 AM
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How many men actually do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:23 AM
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Below average face What makes me below average? Anything I can do to not be below average? Also, I’m in the south. And the place I live in doesn’t really have too many women of color(or at least attractive ones at that)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:38 AM
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When I said meet women, I meant meeting women in the sense of meeting them to date not just meeting them to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:37 AM
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Yes, I do go to bars and clubs. I still struggle, but not as much as online. I think that has to do with more of my race, though. Also, do you think there’s anything I can do to improve my face?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:15 AM
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Can you let me know if I’m ugly then? https://imgur.com/gallery/z9bzdUh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:16 PM
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All right, can you let me know if I’m ugly then? https://imgur.com/gallery/z9bzdUh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:16 PM
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This doesn’t lead to dates though, especially if those groups are male dominated. Not to mention it can be considered creepy to approach women within your social Circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:13 PM
1

how many men did you see on OLD that were fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:56 PM
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Happens to me in the grocery store a couple times a month, more if I go in the evenings when men are roaming the aisles because they want to force a meet-cute. what do you except men to do then to meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:46 PM
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This is terrible advice. 99% of men dont get choosing signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:44 PM
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.only approached and would date women who were the correct body weight for their height. not really fair, since men cant control their height
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:39 PM
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But overall, I agree with you and believe that women are being approached by men who are attractive enough. The problem is that most men think that they are attractive enough or at least might be, so women tire of the constant approaches. Why do you guys say things like this, but get upset when people talk about things around rule 9?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:37 PM
1

Curious to know do you believe race can affect if you are good looking or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:25 PM
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I think there are more guys who actually struggle who have decent characteristics than guys who are actual losers and struggle. I myself struggle and I am: 5'11" FFMI 25 Had two hair transplants to make sure a have hair And make 108k at a popular defense contractor I pretty positive and nice I do all of this and still struggle to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:23 PM
1

What should guys have on their profiles then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:07 PM
1

How tall are you? Also are you white?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:56 PM
2

Curious to know are you white and 6ft+?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:48 PM
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No, just curious on the type of people who are able to get attention from women like this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:10 PM
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Long story short I model sometimes so I’d take photo shoots and occasionally I’d be having a conversation about angles and poses. whats your hieght and race?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:57 PM
1

Who’s sending you nudes lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:30 PM
1

What amount of income you consider top 20 to 10%?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:45 PM
2

By Existing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:09 PM
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Knowing when to approach to a woman: Step 1. Make sure your attractive Step 2. Don’t be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:38 PM
2

Do you have the link to the /pol/ research?
/r/AllPillDebate10/06/23 04:22 PM
3

So why do women deny the reality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:51 AM
1

How do you know who is sexually available at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:44 PM
1

What were these opportunities?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:40 PM
2

Nobody’s going to care about your personality if you don’t meet the pre-requisite of looks first. This is why the friend zone exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:49 PM
1

Don’t have sex with a fuck boy then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:13 PM
1

Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:06 PM
0

How black men more privileged?
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 08:41 PM
2

You need to be of non-overweight shape if you even want to stand a chance in this dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:27 AM
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These are the exception not rule. If men liked women as much as women liked men this sub and other PUA like subs wouldn’t even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:25 AM
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how is focusing on a guys looks working against him? Isnt a common trope on this sub that men who cant get dates are fat neckbeards who dont shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:54 PM
1

And you think men on PPD dont have these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:52 PM
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How many men do you think like these things who are on PPD? Also, how do you define empathy and emotional intelligence? please be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:26 PM
3

How many people are professional athletes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:13 PM
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Well, considering that we naturally want healthy bodies as human beings, and the average woman is either overweight or obese. This makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:06 PM
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But don’t you as a man have a to flirt with a girl first. How do you know if they don’t flirt back with you that they’re not doing that because you’ve turned them off personality wise, versus turning them off physically wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:24 AM
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That’s fair, but how would you know if somebody doesn’t like hanging out with you because of your looks versus your social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:33 AM
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How would you determine what your weight class is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:21 AM
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Your location is your biggest problem, but I would expect at least you'd be pretty popular with black women? Yeah im trying to move but its difficult with the industry I'm in. Im not really that popular with black women, just cause i dont really have the hood aesthetic most black women are looking for at least in my area.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:57 PM
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Because I’m trying to figure out where to meet girls, but more importantly attractive girls
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 04:17 PM
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i understand that, but where in real life
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 03:58 PM
1

How did you meet your ex girlfriend?
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 03:41 PM
1

How do you meet your ex?
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 03:41 PM
1

Ain’t no dude making money on onlyfans and social media at least compared to his female counterpart. Also these only appeal to gay men not women. No old lady is paying for a hot dude on a cruise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:37 PM
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Ain’t no dude making money on onlyfans and social media at least compared to his female counterpart. Also these only appeal to gay men not women. No old lady is paying for a hot dude on a cruise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:37 PM
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I meant individual perk that only applies to that specific class
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:35 PM
2

what surgeries do you plan on getting?
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:37 PM
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Ive been to therapy it didnt work for me. But im curious to know what percentage of these loser men who complain about dating make up PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:56 PM
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I feel like the pretty boy persona is the main thing that attracts women. Most women are into the whole masculine look.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:50 AM
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Not sure what it is, you just have a naturally fat looking face. Do you use gear? I would also add that in your first 3 pics you look way worse than the professional one, you definitely don't look good with the RBF and combined with your size would probably make most people want to cross the street when they see you. I don’t know why everybody asks this, but I don’t use gear. In most of my pictures I’m smiling I’m just having resting bitch face because I’m trying to get the most authentic look p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:49 AM
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What makes my face below average? And what surgeries do think I could get?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:12 AM
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Interesting question though. What makes my face below average and what can I do to make changes to improve my face? Also what do you mean by homoerotic body presentation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:44 PM
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wait, what does it explain? Please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:22 PM
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What tier am I and what can I do to level up? https://imgur.com/a/uETsUrv
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:17 PM
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Nah. I would say A and B are average but they are on the line of below average. As for C she is below average. Now tell me PPD what is my rating and who would be my female equivalent? https://imgur.com/a/uETsUrv
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:13 PM
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Why is having confidence not a legit answer? It’s one of the most attractive things about a guy when he has it Because confidence is such a throwaway amorphous answer to use whenever an unattractive guy isn't able to get a girl. Most girls don't even care that much about confidence. Cause the reality is most men are confident. People always have this character in their heads of "unconfident" men, where guys are looking at the floor and stuttering their words when talking to girls. The reality is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:46 PM
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you will almost certainly be at least more attractive then when you were overweight. Just because you are more attractive, doesn't mean you are attractive enough to do well in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:27 PM
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most of the time it is. Your usually not going to be friends with somebody who doesn't have similar personality and values to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:26 PM
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very few have the genetic potential to become a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:22 PM
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…? If you live with your parents… move out. If you have emotional baggage… go to therapy. If you have an insecure personality… fix it. If you’re obese… go to the gym and hire a nutritionist. If you have a shitty car… get a better car. If you have a shitty job… go get a better education and a better job. If you have no money… learn to budget and build wealth. What percentage of men who are actually working on themselves have these issues? Cause its usually guys that do have these issues are the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:20 PM
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honestly i dont even think bachelorette parties depend on men. Most bachelorette parties i have seen have been with men buying the women drinks still.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:34 PM
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What percentage of these 81% of men are single, and looking for relationships? Because if it’s only a fraction, then it doesn’t really matter at 81% of men are overweight. What should matter is what percentage of men that are actually trying are overweight. Also, just because you’re not overweight doesn’t mean you can’t still be ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:20 PM
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Well, considering there’s not many other solutions to succeeding at that thing, I don’t really expect men to do anything else. What do you honestly expect men to do to be successful at dating other than become a millionaire? And don’t say some dumb shit like be confident, be specific with your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:43 PM
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These men are not looking to date because dating is getting too difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:30 PM
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the friend zone exists because the woman doesn’t want to date the guy. it sucks to be rejected and sucks to be friends with someone you like on a much deeper level and see a deeper attraction. Exactly and why does the girl not wanna date him? Nine times at a time when it comes to the friend zone it’s usually because of the guys looks. Because if you’re friends with somebody, they most likely have good personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:20 PM
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What are these things that you speak of then? And please be specific. Don’t just say being confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:15 AM
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If what you were saying was true, the friend zone would not exist. You need to do a lot more than just respect and listen to a woman to get her to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:08 AM
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To be attractive is mostly genetic. Even though we all know that being taller is a tractive, there’s not much you can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:03 AM
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I wish people are assholes to me. It would save me a lot of time when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:53 AM
1

What parks does a above average woman that an above average man also has
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:45 AM
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In scenarios where hot men are the commodity being advertised to attract women, the same rules apply. The men get free stuff because they’re being used as free ads. Please give me an example where hot men are used as a commodity. And don’t say male strip clubs, because that usually just built for gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:44 AM
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What can money possibly do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:36 AM
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This might be true, in terms of being a hot woman in front of a high value man, but when it comes to the average man, when it comes to being hot, I really have to do is not be overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:53 AM
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We have higher standards and more options by which to reach them. Men have lower standards and fewer options by which to reach them. how do you have higher standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:10 PM
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The one you hooked up with. How did you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:37 PM
1

How do you meet this girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:28 AM
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Men are taking action all the time and still not getting sex. Why is it when men fail, It’s always the fault of the men? There are people out there that try their best and still their best is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:05 AM
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Well, considering the fact that almost a third of men haven’t had sex I don’t think anybody’s really getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:28 AM
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this is true im in the same position and got no attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:51 PM
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OLD isn't going to work for you, but guess what, the number of women who cry about not being approached is like receiving a golden cheat code into dating. then you realize they want good looking men approaching them not ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:37 PM
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BRO stop gaslighting this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:17 PM
1

What percentage of women die from breast implants, and BBLs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:35 PM
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Someone can spew out word vomit and still be a high value man. Just like at Myron Gaines from FreshNFit. That dude is 6’2” and a multi-millionaire and talks about nonsense all the tine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:58 PM
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Most of these men aren’t looking for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:08 PM
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Why is the first thing women assume when an attractive guy can’t get girls it’s because of his personality? We don’t live in a just world. There are a lot of men out there of are not misogynist who can’t get women. Also dating a decade ago is a lot different than Dating today due to social media and OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:59 PM
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How do you know if a women is immediately attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:57 PM
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I disagree. I always try to make sure I’m dating within my league and not letting women treat me like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:56 PM
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It’s hilarious to me because they want to talk about how only women “below their league” are interested in them. If those are the only women who are interested and you dude, then that is your league I dont understand why people cant understand how the dating market has changed and hypergamy affects all. Most women are given multiple high value options so they have no reason to settle at their "league". This leaves the below average women for regular men. And the below average men with nobody. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:22 AM
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Most of the guys on here sound like your friend. They are all wanting top tier women when they do not bring much to the tables themselves. How do you know that these men dont bring much to the table? It seems like your making that assumption because they disagree with you in your opinions about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:35 AM
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what's the best way to evaluate your attractiveness then in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:24 AM
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I am not fat(FFMI is 25), have a neck beard, and I make six figures at my job. And I can barely get a chubby girl to look my way. hypergamy is real
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:23 PM
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What causes sexual attraction then? Please give examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:18 PM
3

Where did you approach your husband at?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:01 PM
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Well you better hope he doesn’t die because like you most women don’t have the balls to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:53 PM
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I bet you do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:48 PM
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Thats until your husband divorces you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:43 PM
6

You would also have to start approaching men too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:38 PM
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How is this true, when more and more men are fat and stay inside to play video games, but dating is more difficult than it has ever been
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:37 PM
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No but my point is your body isn’t gonna help you when you’re first getting the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:13 PM
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When I am approaching girls I’m usually approaching them outside
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:51 PM
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I have done all of these things and I still cant get girls, that i find attractive. Also what do you mean by superficial things?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:18 PM
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depending on where you live this could be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:08 PM
1

whats the point of being on a dating subreddit then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:04 PM
1

yes but most men are better worrying about their face than their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:03 PM
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This depends on the type of clothes, if you’re wearing full on jackets and multiple hoodies nobody is going to know what you look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:06 AM
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Not unless the muscles has an ugly face
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:05 AM
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It’s not the same but at least it’s something. Also getting a masters is never a dumb decision. As long as it’s in some thing that can make you money. College is an investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:25 AM
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the clothes argument is SO bad. You can absolutely tell whether or not someone is in shape even if they're in clothes. Go look at a fit dude in a tight v neck then look at a schlubby dude in a giant hoodie -- world of difference. Physiques are constantly noticeable through clothes. This is also a demo issue -- I have lived in the southwest for the last 15 years, it's skimpy clothes year round for both sexes I’m not talking about that I’m talking about people who live far up north like in Canada …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:24 AM
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No, I mean, how can I get an attractive girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:16 AM
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Sorry to here to that man rip. But at least you can start saving up for leg lengthing surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:16 AM
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what can i do to better myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:18 PM
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thats mostly becausse they cant take issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:17 PM
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It's difficult for men who haven't been lots of body types to understand how people treat you when you look a certain way. I've been a ton of different body types and the treatment when you look good compared to when you look just ok is night and day. Ive been in both body types and I can tell you now women do not care. The face is the most important and trumps body heavily. Also no women will care about your body if you have an ugly face. This is even more true when you consider the fact that f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:15 PM
1

how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:12 PM
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But even if I did a 24 year old going in just won’t be the same. It’s gone and you just need to look forward not backwards go get a masters. most people get their masters at around that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:09 PM
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But do you get pussy though?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:06 PM
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Most women don’t care if your skinny fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:02 PM
1

Start improving your looks and go back to college
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:55 PM
2

What did you do to improve your looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:19 PM
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Probably because that's completely untrue. This is easily proven by studies showing that significantly more autistic men are virgins or single, compared to autistic women. It's something like a 2:1 or even 3:1 ratio. this is true in general though, not just for autistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:54 AM
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The majority of guys here are neurodivergent. It's why they miss the important nuances and overshoot the mark on all talking points. what evidence do you have for this claim? Just because men on here disagree with your talking points doesn't make them neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:53 AM
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Where did you meet these women that you were fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:22 AM
1

How did you get yours so high?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:48 PM
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I agree that online dating is what the real life but it still doesn’t escape the underlying feeling of how most women feel about Men. The reality is is that all online dating does is exaggerate women’s preferences due to the amount of choice.
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 12:09 AM
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They don’t do better than Hispanics
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 12:06 AM
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a lot of white women are too, in either case, younger people are less likely to be morbidly obese. Not as much as white women are. Also younger people are getting more and more obese. albeit again, it's not like a white guy complains about not being able to get black women, so this confirms my belief that racepill is cope, it's because non-white girls are invisible to ethnic men. The white man doesn’t complain about getting black women, because just like for black men white guys don’t want black…
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 11:01 PM
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Absolutely not the only race black men have it better than is Indians. There is a reason when black men date outside there race it’s usually overweight white girls.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 10:28 PM
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Most black guys are not happy with their own women because a lot of black women are overweight.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 10:26 PM
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I’m not saying every white girl should date a black guy. But if you think being black doesn’t affect your options when dating outside your race your delusional. You are better off being white than black if you want a good chance at dating.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 09:14 PM
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Cope it still does apply. https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 09:11 PM
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I’m sorry but this is not true you can look at the stats for dating apps on what kind of men white women want and it’s usually there own race but when dating outside their race it’s Hispanic. White women are also the most choosy when it comes to dating outside their race.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 09:10 PM
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Considering the fact that most men do get haircuts I am serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:33 PM
2

The gym
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:19 PM
1

What man other then neckbeards don’t want to get a haircut?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:18 PM
1

What are you talking about? So many men are constantly getting plastic surgery and going to the gym everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:17 PM
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No shit, but getting the date is a small step in comparison of the whole. And looks are for from the most important thing to locking down a date. The only good point black pill makes is that it’s harder for UGLY people to get dates. Again, nothing profound or uniquely different from common thought. What are you talking about? Your not getting a date if the girl doesnt find you attractive in the first place. If this was the case then you could have 400 5'1" balding Indian being able to rizz up ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:39 AM
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One is a graduate lawyer, the guy she was dating was a dropout and a parasite. Another one of my friends was dating an obese porn addict while she was working full time and in school. I wasnt talking about education and income. I was talking about their physical attractiveness rating, Are the women overweight and/or ugly themselves? Because a womens value is mainly determined by their looks.. I've also dated a couple of ugly men who were AWFUL people, literally just problems and problems and mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:30 AM
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Are you struggling with memory? YOU said that a lot of men only want relationships to get sex. If women respond by deciding not to date men, it's their fault. Yes but they are still going to show commitment, whether the commitment is fake or not doesn't really matter. Also these women aren't innocent either there dating these men for more than just commitment. Can....can you read? my EX, why do you think he's my husband? Do you have amnesia or do you struggle to read? Yes I can and i was answeri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:17 AM
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Then men get exactly whats coming to them with the decrease in relationship rates, they can enjoy fucking their own hand. What are you talking about? These men want relationships, its the women who are declining them and ghosting them after the date. Most modern men can't provide shit, most women just want company and reciprocal affection with someone who actually cares about them. Very strange then how the majority of men who are friendzoned are overweight men, who live with their mothers and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:41 PM
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They were MUCH better than those guys, they were complete and utter losers. I highly doubt that. Way to many women think they are tens now. Honestly people in general have a hard time rating themselves. Er, no, they don't. How do you know that? Being ugly doesn't make you a good person, most of the guys my friends dated that I mentioned were ugly. Why do all you women always assume when a guy can't get a date its because he is a bad person? Also how were these men ugly? So men support men exploi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:30 PM
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You claimed that it's impossible for men to date unless they're the top 20%, which is obviously not true if 1/4th of my close friends are dating short guys. Never said it was impossible. I said it was extremely difficult. Also you never said how old these friends were? The rest are dating men of average height, wtf is with you making these weird conclusions? What do you consider average height?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:23 PM
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You mean lie. Yes lie. That's the unfortunate cases of most relationships. Most men wouldn't be with their wives if they werent hot and couldnt fuck them. And most women wouldn't be with their husbands with they were short and poor and couldn't protect and provide for them. I don't think men date women solely for sex, but a lot of men only want sex, hence they're single. This is true, but sex is a requirement and a crucial part of a relationship. So if that requirement is not met within a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:18 PM
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No they don't. Of all of the women that I know, most of them have dated men who had little to none of these skills, they all ended up dumping them. Then those women should learn to date at their level or date down, because I can promise you that the majority of those women have men in the friend zone that posse all of those good emotionality intelligent qualities they are looking for. I know from my experience me and all my friends are emotionally intelligent but women dont want us due to negati…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:08 PM
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don't really consider that several, and that's definitely not the majority, which shows that most of the people you know that are dating are above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:52 PM
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This is true but that's why men put up a front of commitment to reel the woman into a relationship so that they can get sex. Do you really think most young couples, would still be with each other if the women just put off sex all together?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:51 PM
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Yes several of them are below average in height, ranging from 5ft 4 to 5ft 8. what does several mean? What percentage of your friends is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:29 PM
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That isn't 'wanting commitment' it's wanting sex and knowing that commitment is the way to get it. The desire isn't genuine. That doesn't change the fact that these men are looking to commit, whether they are doing it out of force doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:28 PM
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Emotional intelligence is learning about other people, showing compassion, understanding, empathy and being able to anticipate the needs and desires of others, basically the opposite of your little rant. Im ranting because most men already do what your talking about. It is literally dating 101 for guys to let the girl talk and agree and listen to all her dreams and issues she is dealing with in life. Almost all dating coaches say this. Also be honest here, what percent of men dont care to be emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:27 PM
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But a lot of men don't want commitment and that's the issue. That's the issue. A lot of men do want commitment because they know if they don't commit they wont get sex. Because again the only way for a lot of men to get constient sex is through committed relationship. Yeah men don't have to be in 'the top 20%' to be in a relationship. All my friends who are in relationships are in relationship with average or below average guys, this top 20% shite is a chronically online take. Are these people b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:15 PM
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It's easier to get a relationship than sex because most women don't want casual sex. If a man is having sex he is usually having sex through a relationship. The majority of men are not getting sex through one night stands or fwbs, because if I man get sex from a woman he can get a relationship from her. That's utter bullshit Its not, do you know what its like being a man? You have to do all the work to get into a relationship. You have to be top 20%, approach, be charisma, be attractive, be conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:38 PM
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Most men can’t even get regular sex. Men are not single because they won’t commit. Men are single, because Dating is impossible. The majority of men are not fuck boys
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:16 AM
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I don’t know if Chad could go that far
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 08:52 PM
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How did those men meet those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:29 PM
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Are these people in their mid 20s? If they are they must be a select group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:19 PM
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Where did he approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:29 PM
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You know this is not true the majority of men under 30 are single. A lot of those couples you are looking at are older people who met before Tinder and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:25 PM
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What do you do for work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:12 PM
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How much money do you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:12 PM
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“Outcome of the relationship” ≠ “starting a relationship” or “getting dates” when i say outcome of a relationship I mean getting a relationship. Also if you cant get dates or a relationship, it really doesn't matter the outcome of a relationship. This is pure conjecture, and retarded. It absolutely is not conjecture. There are multiple studies addressing the importance of looks when it comes to starting a relationship. Studies even also showing how we view people when it comes looks and how we w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:16 PM
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Why do people always say this? Prostitution is illegal.
/r/AllPillDebate26/03/23 02:25 AM
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You'd be surprised. Not to mention you can look at the age of what 50 year olds find desirable it is usually girls in their twenty somethings. https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:23 PM
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I know engineers making around that much but the irony is, they don't even want to settle down with American women or modern City Girls. They sleep around a lot and have talked about looking for wives in the middle east or overseas. How are they meeting these girls they sleep around with? Because usually the meme is that men working out of San Francisco as engineers at FAANG companies get no pussy even though they go out and do things like rock climbing and other social activities, not to mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:36 PM
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Things get better for men the more they age. if they get enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:13 PM
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what do you mean relatively? When you take into account the people that want to date there are more single men than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:50 PM
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There's a lot less of those guys than there are pretty women. I really wish this was the case. But it seems due to mens high libido they are trying to get with every women possible, which inflates womens ego and gives them ridiculous standards. I say this as a man who makes 108k a year himself, it just seems that women dont care. Women only really care about income when you get to that 300k range because guys like that are hitting them up all the time. Cause men making that 70k a year arent real…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:27 PM
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I’m pretty poor but when I was early 20’s women swiped on me the most frequently and I’m mid 30’s, well then im pretty sure what happened is that you became more physically attractive as you got older, which is very rare for men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:02 PM
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In my dating experience it has gotten easier and better as I've grown older as women rate being put together and earning better. I agree with this but you need to be making a good amount for this to happen(like well into the six figure range) if you want to bang hot young chicks. Women get more desperate as they age due to the body clock, age worse (metabolism and body parts) and guys prefer younger women. That's been the case for all my single highly successful female friends. Thats probably be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:01 PM
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To that point, the majority of us didn't get to fuck young horny women and also, you might not realize this but young women pursue us guys in our 30's hard whereas women in their 30's become increasingly critical. Young women purse you if you're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:59 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/user/abaxeron/comments/102jhl0/the\_wall\_aint\_real/ my argument was never the wall not being real.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:58 PM
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No because I know other groups that I dont relate to at all that are having the exact same problem. Also why do you think the main consumers of prostitution websites are old men if they are so high value compared to their younger counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:53 PM
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most men do not date women that young. Also the only reason singleness is higher for women than men is because those older women dont want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:50 PM
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The pivotal difference between men, and women, is the biological window. For the majority, kids, a family and settling down is the norm. So women presumably plan for that. Adoption and surrogacy is a thing, so i don't think that window matters
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:48 PM
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waht status are you referring to? Most men are nobodies with normie jobs. Also it has already been proven multiple times that when it comes to getting hot 20 year olds as an old 50 year old balding man, you are getting them through betabuxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:45 PM
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This is true if the 60k guy is there only offer, but it usually isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:43 PM
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To say women don't hit the wall as much as men. I'm dead. Honestly deluded why do you think its deluded?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:39 PM
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Again, only very few women do this, because if most women did, this guys would not be having the issues they do when it comes to casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:35 AM
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OK, what other ways can men build their value then that women will care about and increase his SMV? And please don’t say status, because we all can’t become famous celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:34 AM
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Again, I have already stated in the post that if men make enough money, of course they can beatbuxx their way into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:46 PM
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That’s not my point my point is that women are very selective with the men they hook up with because of the negatives that come with sex. So when they hook up with guys, they usually hook up with guys that they would be cool with marrying. If this wasn’t true, then women would just be cool with just having sex with anybody like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:46 PM
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if this was true tinder and hookup culture would not be filled with majority men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:32 PM
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women will usually marry who they would fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:56 PM
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This is not necessarily true, because that women making 30k can proposed by a man making 400k which would make the women have high standards, make her not want to date men who dont make six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:56 PM
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The half plus seven rule what is the half plus seven rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:53 PM
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The amount of options you have at 60k versus 30k is marginal considering the fact of what you can do with both of these incomes. You can barely afford to live in an apartment in a major city living off of 60k
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:34 PM
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That depends if that girl making 30k is ugly or not, because women are not looked at for their wealth they are looked at for their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:31 PM
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When you hit 40, the number of men and women is roughly equal, and 40 year old women are less likely to be dating older so you get a larger selection. Is what it is. Even with the numbers equaling out the demand for 40 year old is still so high that 40 year men will still have a difficult time getting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:30 PM
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If she starts doing too much, though, this shows that she’s a female simp that can potentially be used for sex. This is why women tend to avoid courting behaviors. Again, she shouldn't give out sex. You can be seen some way but if your actions don't reflect your perceived persona, the world will treat you justly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:32 PM
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I didnt ask for a vague estimate. I asked for a number, because you have to many delusional red pilled men who think they are going to pull girls making 60k a year as welders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:29 PM
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Usually nobody because they’re dead or they date women slightly younger than them. But remember, this only happens if they make enough money. An old dude making 50 K a year is not bagging a hot 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:25 PM
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they’re doing it because they want to Doubtful considering the fact that men find women most desirable in their 20s no matter how old they are https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:24 PM
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The question you need to ask is, are these men marrying these women in forties because they want to or because they have to? Because I can tell you this right now as a man who’s 26 and makes 108k. Unless these men were attracting 20 year olds when they were twenty, you are not considered high value because you make a 100k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:14 PM
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That is because those older women are not looking to date while the older men are. When older women want to date they can find it very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:03 PM
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Where in the study does it show that? Also yes as I stated before if you make enough money the wall doesn't affect you. But most men wont reach this level, due to the fact that women are out earning men more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:51 PM
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Im sorry but your just being delusional here. The only reason your saying this is because you don't realize how big of a negative being 5'3" actually is. Nuke your athleticism, limit yourself from countless experience, years of brutal recovery. The only thing he will suffer from is that he wont be able to squat as well. Also what athleticism? Its not like hes going to do pro sports or something. Also there really isnt any sport you can do at 5'3", other than being a gymnast. Im not really unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:49 PM
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Source for this? Also why are they in dead bedrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:41 PM
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I don't think it requires a lot of money, just some money. Enough such that you can offer decent dates and a place to live. how much do you think it requires? Because the majority of women can afford a place to live. Plus even if such a man doesn't get more attention, he's also not going to get less. 0 is 0, getting older isn't going to make it more 0. This is true. I am just talking about men who are like a 7/10 in looks and then become a 4/10 due to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:40 PM
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oh nvm. I thought you were a man. The only wall women really have to is downgrade from Chad to Chad lites for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:39 PM
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go get surgery then.
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 07:37 PM
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nope better start making money, i would recommend getting into coding its the quickest way to make lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:17 PM
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As they get older and start to have more to offer women (and as women their age become less attractive) they'll start to get some attention Again this only happens if you make enough money, which most men dont and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:16 PM
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Get leg lengthening surgery and jaw surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:15 PM
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Unless your rich, I can probably bet you have a harder time getting access to 20 year olds then you did in your mid to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:13 PM
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dont know how thats possible when your 6'3" but ....
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 07:12 PM
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RIP Brother, also you should get a hair transplant it did wonders for me. Im not treated like a pariah anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:10 PM
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You can pull up all the stats you want but my actual lived reality is pretty different from the point you're trying to assert. I mostly see younger dudes struggle to get a text back but I see older dudes just kinda rock up to the same bar and then get a reasonably same aged woman without too much of an issue. The problem here is everything you said is anecdotal. I too personally know older men who actually make decent money and they heavily struggle with women. So much so that they get prostitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:04 PM
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unfortunately for a lot of men that's just not possible and it has nothing to do with them, their are certain immutable traits that just can't be changed. yeah, but in this case then you are telling them to give up with wanting to date women or at least high value women, which would be breaking rule 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:28 PM
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The man who is actually in a woman’s league is the one who is willing to do most of the courting. If she’s doing too much of the courting, then he’s probably of her league and he’s using her for sex, which will end badly for her If you dont want to be used for sex, dont have sex with men you are courting. If women learned how to make men wait, women wouldn't be in this position. The man who is actually in a woman’s league is the one who is willing to do most of the courting. If this was true the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:26 PM
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Why do women say they have it just as hard in dating as men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:05 PM
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but the vast majority of men are a “maybe” its very difficult to turn a maybe into a yes. Even tons of men don’t want us doing that. Only retarded red pill men and the top 20% of men care about that. The vast majority of men do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:12 PM
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i love how people constantly rail against people who talk about rule 9, but then push rule 9 themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:10 PM
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Why do you think that women who don’t want children and are also on birth control don’t entertain the thought of having sex with the majority of men? This is irrelevant, most women regardless of being on birth control or not wanting to have children dont want to have sex with the majority of men. Also just because you are hardwired to do something doesnt make it harder for you, considering the fact that dating is a mostly social thing. It’s an incredible cost not as much to a woman, but to a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:08 PM
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Thats all fine and dandy. But you cant say its harder for you if youre just lazy. As a women if your too unsexually motivatived to go out and date men who are within your league that is your problem. Just like if you are a man who is introverted to go out and date that is your problem and it doesn't mean you have a harder time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:01 PM
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Same bro
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 03:33 PM
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For most women that’s how they see it. If this wasn’t the case virginity and sexlessness wouldn’t be as high as it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:32 PM
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If they want to partake in hookup culture they should focus on improving themselves in every way possible instead of the women who are currently hooking up with the men who fit their ideal What if their best at improvement isn’t enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:30 PM
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Also if you cant find a man who doesn't fit your standards lower your standards. We would never have sympathy for a man who said he has it hard it in dating because he only wants to date insta models.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:19 PM
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Why do people always talk about child rearing when picking the right man? A lot of women don't even want kids. Studies show that by 2035 at least 50% of women will be childless. Also why does a man have to fit your standards, why cant he just be a good partner? There are so many men in the friend zone of women that would drop everything for them, but wont get into relationships with them because they are either too short, not attractive enough, or don't have some other stupid trait that doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:17 PM
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so do so many women say they have it just as hard in dating as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:53 PM
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No because women usually only care if the guy is attractive in the face or rich. Not that he isn’t obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:44 PM
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This can’t be true for men. Most women don’t care if a man loses weight at least not compared to a woman losing weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:22 PM
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I have a personality. I like movies music and sport activities
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:56 PM
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The one leg in this analogy is a man who has a negative in some physical trait that keeps him from dating(I.e. being too short, being a minority, having a ugly face)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:55 PM
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I understand where you’re coming from, but I disagree with the analogy. It should be more like you had a marathon, but you only get a reward if you have a time lower than 30 minutes but the lowest time you can get is 50 minutes. And you can’t get a time lower than 50 minutes due to the fact that you have one leg.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:48 PM
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whats the alternative then, if you are going to fail anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:35 PM
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i think what matters more is not the quantity of women but the quality. also we had to factor in time considering the fact that it was probably a lot easier to get laid when your only competing with 5 other people compared to 5000 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:25 PM
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I really dont believe considering the stereotypes around anime viewers, but i guess ill take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:23 PM
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You should still try but you shouldnt shit on people and call them lazy, if they dont want to do something that will clearly result in failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:09 PM
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What percentage of people are women at these anime cons?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:19 PM
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Are you white?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:17 PM
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The reality is sometimes your best is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:16 PM
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That’s not the question you should be asking. What you should be asking is how many incels are overweight or obese? Which if you go on their forums not a lot of them are. Which shows the point you need to do a lot more than just not be fat and have a job to get a gf. I myself am 5’11”, with a FFMI of 25, make 108k a year and still struggle to get women. And if I’m struggling with all that how do you think the average man is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:15 PM
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This is the worst advice ever the nerd community is all dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:48 PM
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Just beeeeee🐝 yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:45 PM
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Where do you meet these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:45 PM
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Where did you meet these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:41 PM
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The comment is true though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:32 PM
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Very true. Zero issue for me, just get fit and all your dating problems vanish (75% of them anyways) As a fit guy this is definitely not true. You need a lot more than Fitness to get girls. Also EVERY man in this thread self reports as “fit” when they’re definitely not. Measured, sub 12% body fat, and good muscle mass counts as fit. Going to the gym does not count. Guaranteed every fit guy in the thread looks about average and is 20-25% BF. 12% body fat is shredded, visible abs, and a bicep/fore…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:38 AM
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Dudes of average weight with decent enough musculature can get a woman of equal fitness level. This is absolutely not true i know lots of gym bros who have an impossible time getting fit girls
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:31 AM
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What’s the percentage over there?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:04 PM
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My point is muscularity for boosting SMV only happens when you have a good face. Otherwise, getting muscles to get hotter is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:13 AM
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Bro I don't know where you live, not everybody on this subreddit is from the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:23 PM
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They are not the same thing. If you can’t figure that out there’s no hope for you so stop trying to think about it. Okay lol. A disagreement that turns it into completely normie worldviews or not. The average normie still believes that personality is the most important factor and looks barely effect the outcome of a relationship. Blackpillers from both ends of the spectrum do not believe in this. Also I have yet to meet a blackpiller that does believe looks are the not the most important factor.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:17 PM
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and that percent is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:46 PM
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Why would getting married mean you wouldn’t be working on yourself? Because when someone is working towards a goal and that person accomplished that goal. Then that body doesnt need to work anymore because they have gotten what they need. People always bitch and moan that ppl (women the majority of the time) “let themselves go” and that’s the reason for divorce. The only people who say that are red pillers and red pillers are retarded. Additionally marriages fall apart for many reasons, you neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:20 AM
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What percentage of those men were overweight or obese that you saw on Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:15 AM
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Do they believe looks are most important or do they believe that looks come first? How is this not the same thing? If I think an attribute is super important, than that attribute will take first priority and will be the thing I work on first. Also the only reason I think the attribute is important is probably because it holds the most weight and determines other attributes(i.e. halo effect). Both? So why do they sometimes argue ‘personality’ has no effect and then say sometimes it does? Because …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:09 AM
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What do you think they believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:40 PM
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Im not sure what is, cause i dont think any study has been done like that. But what I do know, is whenever I look at a woman's Tinder I rarely see men on there that are extremely obese or even slightly overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:13 PM
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i think what matters is looking at what the single average men looking to date stats are. It might be true that the average man is 5'9" and 200, but most of that average is made up of men not looking to date and married men. So of course these people are not going to be working on themselves. If we were to look at single men looking for dates these numbers would be much different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:24 PM
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you seem to have a misunderstanding of the word then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:20 PM
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the average men does not think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:13 PM
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how am i supposed to be taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:44 PM
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Same here expect I make 108k, and im 13% body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:43 PM
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Sure, sometimes the date doesn't go so well, but all in all when a girls answers your messages on Tinder she's at least mildly interested Thats only because shes looking for attention, not because she's interested in you. Yeah I guess I'm above average, but as I said, vast majority of girls aren't gonna be looking at me and wondering how to get me. Maybe, cant really know for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:37 AM
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He can’t change himself to suit one woman because the next woman is an entirely different human being who may like him the way he is. Disagree, the vast majority of women are usually attracted to same thing. Never really heard of a woman rejecting a guy because he is too tall or his jawline is too square. Have you been reading pick up or something? Please don’t. Those men and their silly field reports are lying. I think PUA is cringe, however their really isnt much of an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:35 AM
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I disagree, even though these men are still lonely and depressed. they are a lot less lonely and depressed than men who dont have any access to sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:32 AM
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Be interested or at least explain to the man why you’re not interested in him so that he can change himself so that he can become interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:33 PM
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No, there is no such thing as a scarcity of attractive men Only 15% of men are above 6ft, thats scaracity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:09 PM
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Yes, but its not that they believe, its that they have to convince them. Otherwise they will just end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:07 PM
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I'm talking about: overweight funny guys never seem to have a problem finding women. I know multiple who do. Have you ever heard of the friend zone?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:04 PM
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I literally worked with attractive women I went to nightclubs with, leaned against a wall while they went around getting free drinks, with dudes trying to smash, and then they'd take me home to fuck, while I was standing there silently laughing at all of these dudes trying to ''game'' these women. Soundds like you are extremely attractive. Just curious to know are you 6ft plus and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:03 PM
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So now men need to focus more on other aspects that we historically neglected - like actually putting more money and effort into looking good. Nerds hate it. I thought you hated black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:00 PM
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Prostitution would have already solved the issue if it was just libido. Not True. Prostitution is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:54 PM
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thats my whole point, there are no women that are interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:53 PM
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Hell, how anyone can ask this question is just beyond me. I actually saw a male strip show (don't ask me how lol) recently and plenty of the women there were practically begging to suck the guys dick once they saw it. The concept of women not being turned on by GOOD male bodies is laughable. If this is the case why are there more female strip clubs than male strip clubs? Also why do female strippers more make than male strippers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:47 PM
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s are lusted after because that's a woman's value. Men don't like me for who I am; they like me for my body. As a woman, you are not desired for who you are, but rat thats because hes an attractive movie actor. If some bald 5'1" Indian janitor did the same thing no one would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:45 PM
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Even if women want sex, weirdo men still punish women or try to socially ostracize women for wanting sex with them. You see men here who want women to want them show feral sexuality towards them, yet find the behavior completely repulsive and worthy of social abuse and ostracization. Men in general dont think this, only retarded red pillers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:43 PM
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why do female models generate more followers on Instagram than male models?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:42 PM
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we know their not. look at the income of male models vs female models. its not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:37 PM
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Men don’t care if a woman is interested and in fact an utter lack of participation or innocence excites men as much as mutual attraction. thats not the reason. men go ahead with interaction from women that are not into to them because men have to create attraction. The reality is that woman only really reciprocate attraction for a very small percent of men, so the rest of men need to keep pushing to create interest for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:30 PM
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Why would she reject me on Tinder? because girls standards on tinder are different from real life due to the vast amount of options they have. I meant rejecting in a club environment, that's where I hit on girls if it's not Tinder. I guess with most it doesn't go anywhere, and with some it does.. the hottest girls I made out with was clubs. good on you for that. but most people arent that lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:21 PM
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how much money do you make
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:18 PM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:35 PM
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just be a celebrity bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:29 PM
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I was scrawny, not fat.. I have good features, I have bad ones.. depends on day/angle really. Lucky you. Most people just have bad features. I got rejected enough to know that they're out there lol. In what regard cause getting rejected by women in school is different than rejecting people on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:15 PM
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Girls don't care how much you bench, but ime they like a guy with a nice body. Most girls really don’t care that much. All girls care about is the fact that you’re not obese. I seem to get more attention since I put some muscle on, and I have WAY less than you. This is most likely because you have a good face or you lost a lot of facial fat when you started exercising. I mean, I'm sure if I could pull off a no-shirt abs photo on Tinder I'd get some cool sex-wise matches. But I'm not there yet. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:25 AM
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It doesn't matter, I told that to show that great improvement, even when potential isn't seen by others, is possible a lot of the time. Sure but when were talking about improvement were talking about improvements with looks, no girl will care if you can bench more than 225. I don't consider myself highly attractive by the way, but the way some girls are attracted, tells me I have some charm available. What way is this? Can you give examples? As one of my ex-fwbs put it - "You're handsome. You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:36 PM
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why are so many random people replying to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:26 PM
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please no meme. I'm actually trying to figure out how people meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:50 PM
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how did she message you over Instagram or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:01 PM
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how did you guys meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:54 PM
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how did you meet a 53 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:47 PM
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how did you meet this 29 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:46 PM
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where did you meet this 21 year old girl at?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:43 PM
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For example, a lot of people think I'm pretty attractive, but an X-ray would show class-II mandibular recession. That might be because you have other greatly positive features that override that one negative. Either that or not that many people think you are attractive as you think or as attractive as you think. My gym trainer knows my from high-school, and while we were training one of the girls at the gym went by him, pointed at me and said to him "he's strong". This is my point. How do you kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:31 PM
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If you read the article I sent, that’s not what it says. It literally says in the article that they pay white women more to do these scenes because they don’t want to do them because they’ll be looked down upon within society if they do them. Also, who said I would only date white women? I literally said I’m cool dating other races. The only thing I said is that they’re hard to find out here because the area I live in is 90% either white or black. Also, I would date a black woman if she wasn’t o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:52 PM
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there are someways, getting an x-ray to figure out your bone structure is one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:17 AM
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I dont care about what people say or anecdotes. I think something you need to realize about the red pill is that its rules applies to men just as much as women. Dont watch what men say, watch what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:16 AM
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Probably like 15% at the most, the majority of when are simps even red pill ones, they just dont realize it. Also a lot of them do stop going to the gym when they get into a relationship. Have you not even the tiktok of before and after relationship transformations? This is actually the problem I have with women and the gym. Things like cardio and yoga wont get you the big insta ass that every man values, it also wont get you the curvy body you want either. Women need to realize that muscles con…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:14 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? No one judges women for dating black guys or minorities. Again there are tons of men who go out with white women and it’s never really an issue. If anything the rates of interracial marriages between black men and white women have become more common. You havent been to the rural south then. Down here people will give you the side eye like nobodies business, both black and white people. Also we are getting more progressive as a nation but we still have a long …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:50 PM
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Again, most of these women only date men uglier than them because of money. I disagree with this it’s in men’s biology that they want to date a young, attractive, fertile woman. That’s the thing the markets aren’t working they are extremely unbalanced. Due to the monopoly that the top 20% of men have, and the unregulated hypergamy of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:14 AM
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Mongeese is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:06 AM
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That is true that most don’t, but the majority of people do look for parental acceptance. It’s not just about parental, though it’s societal too. Most people, especially white women don’t wanna be judged for dating a man that is seen as low class(typically a minority). Also, the vast majority of women do you want kids still. Trust me, ma’am, the whole thing of white women, being extremely liberal, is a huge larp. The vast majority of these white women are virtue signalers who don’t actually care…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:58 AM
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Yes, I go to the gym and I’m literally in those spaces and I have been for the past six years. I can tell you right now the majority of people who joined do so because they want to become more attractive to the other sex. A lot of people want to get revenge bodies on their exes also. Even Khloé Kardashian has a whole show about this. Women absolutely do. The current trend and what has always been to be honest, has been having a big bum which is achieved by going to the gym. Also having a nice fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:19 AM
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True, but I wasn’t talking about attractive men I was talking about regular men most regular men will date down when it comes to dating women. There are tons of examples of men dating women uglier than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:41 PM
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Being a millionaire is required, if you’re trying to get attractive women Also, the range of women that men are willing to date is a lot larger than the range of men that women are willing to date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:06 PM
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What’s wrong with the 80%?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:31 PM
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Yeah but it is out of choice not out of force
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:26 PM
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I think we need to remember women don’t have sex because they don’t want too while men don’t have sex because they can’t there’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:25 PM
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This is just incorrect it is a big red pill and Black pill talking point to go to the gym to get more attractive for the opposite sex. The matter of the fact is most people don’t go to the gym for themselves. If they did, you wouldn’t see all these memes about sad, depressed dudes fueling their workouts with break up texts. This may be true, but it’s woman’s prerogative to be as physically attractive as possible so they would need to go to the gym anyway as that is a prerequisite for their attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:09 PM
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What im trying to prove is that as a black man you have to work a lot harder than your white counterparts if you want to date outside your race and that sometimes even if you do work harder sometimes you still won't get anything at all because people want their children to look like them. Lol Asians women are even harder to get than white women, due to the fact the will look for their parents acceptance more and Asians parents really don't like black people moreso than whites sometimes. Also the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:55 PM
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Highly doubtful, most men cant even get into a relationship due to the high standards when it comes to dating. So most arent going to try and treat it with disrespect, because they know if they lose it, they wont get another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:28 PM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:11 PM
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what country are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:07 PM
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that wasn't the point of my argument. I was just saying to illustrate that men have a bigger range than women of who they are willing to fuck and date. Also being rich is easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:07 PM
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what physical characteristics did these men have(race, height, body composition)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:52 PM
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Im from the USA. Where are you from? Because in the US the amount of obese women is a lot more than the amount of obese women. Also when it comes to the gym and other exercising activities very few women do this compared to men. A lot women also glorify obese due to figures like Tess Holiday. Also depending on your genetics(i.e. you are 6ft+ and white) doing the bare minimum can be enough for women to fuck with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:47 PM
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curious to know was your roommate 6ft+ and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:44 PM
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no im saying that white women that black college athletes are able to obtain are the same type and level of white women that white guys with less status and money are able to obtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:41 PM
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That might be the case, but that doesnt mean in todays society women show those characteristics. A lot women these days dont even really care to put effort into their appearance. You can see this with the HAES movement
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:12 PM
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Yes, but that’s the part you’re not understanding the only reason they can date those white women is a because they have lots of social status and money. But when you compare it to the white counterparts, they usually have even better looking attractive white women. You can see this with black college athletes too, a lot of white women that these athletes attract are white women that normal white guys can usually also get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:41 PM
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They really haven't here are some more recent articles and studies that show minorities still have the same problem they had before. https://www.psypost.org/2021/07/new-study-indicates-that-potential-partners-experience-a-large-penalty-for-being-black-on-dating-apps-61545 https://mashable.com/article/racism-online-dating https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/date-labdaters-say-they-dont-tolerate-racial-bias-their-actions-say-they-do-have-racial-preferences/2020/06/18/0d1eace4-a039-11…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:54 PM
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men have hoped women go for the heart of gold Men have never hoped for that. Also, honoring celebrities is a lot different than honoring attractive man because of height. A lot of women will say they’re with a guy because of his personality when it’s really because of his height
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:29 PM
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There are absolutely women who date chubby men That’s because those men have money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:27 PM
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how in what way? Please provide examples if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:33 AM
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I highly that the US follows Eurocentric beauty standards given how diverse their population is. I mean its still majority white, so i don't know if that's super diverse. The U.S. is almost three quarters white, unless you don't consider white Hispanics white. There’s no evidence to suggest that black men have a harder time than white men, here is your evidence https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262898227_…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:31 AM
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This is absolutely not true. If this were true, the majority of men under the age of 30 would not be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:49 AM
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Just curious, if this is true. How can you tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:46 AM
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Just curious, if this is true. How can you tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:45 AM
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Already did. I got two hair transplants, chin implant, and buccal fat removal surgery. I’m planning on getting rhinoplasty next though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:30 AM
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I’m actually going to move later this year. Yes, it is true that black men are stereotype as being more masculine but they are still seen as less attractive than White men, due to not meeting Eurocentric beauty standards. Also, the US is very diverse and the only really liberal places are in the north and west. Places like the mid west and south are very conservative and very racist. But my point still stands that if you were seen as unattractive by the surrounding society, there’s not much you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:29 AM
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I’m really not. Again, if you like photos and a timestamp picture, I can send it to you. However, I will say that you were living in Miami Florida does play a big role, considering the fact that it’s a very diverse area with lots of opportunity. I live in Huntsville, Alabama myself as a black man so my chances aren’t like yours. But that just goes back into the whole If your seen as below average(whether it be because of race, or some other physical trait), there’s not much you can do to combat …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:13 AM
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I think we need to realize that for a lot of men, the ROI on self improvement it’s not worth it if you are a below average man because you will still be below average after all the self improvement. I know as this has happened to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:51 AM
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I think we need to remember women don’t have sex because they don’t want you meant don’t have sex because they can’t there’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:46 AM
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I think we need to remember women don’t have sex because they don’t want you meant don’t have sex because they can’t there’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:46 AM
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I disagree with this assessment I think that women rate on physical features just as much as men do they’re just not as open about it. And they’re able to tolerate some negative features if it’s overrided by a overpowered positive feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:43 AM
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Believe it friend that’s how fucked the dating market is today. Especially if you’re below average dude. I can send you proof of pictures if you don’t believe me. Also I’m about 5 foot 11, so not too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:36 AM
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We’re talking about physical attractiveness not personality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:34 AM
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Well, it makes you ugly in the eyes of men. As a woman, you care about high testosterone traits like a big jaw and body hair and beards. Also lady boners isn’t the best representation of what women find attractive. I would look at things like tiktok and pretty boys. Also, libido has everything to do with it think about how many men would have sex with a overweight chick versus how many women would have sex with a bald guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:32 AM
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FMI is fat free mass index. I pretty much told you what your body composition is the higher the number the better it is. Usually people who are on steroids have an FFMI of 26. What I’m trying to say is I have a top 5% body. So you don’t think money matters when it comes to getting partners? Do women not like men with lots of money? Lol actually done all these things and currently doing some right now. However, the sad reality is is that even after I do all these things, I will still probably be …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:28 AM
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I agree that this is the case but honestly it seems to only happen when you have extreme levels of Neuro divergence. When it comes to people with mid tier, divergence or lower, it doesn’t really have an effect. Like just look at men who are very quiet to themselves, and sit in the corner. If they are attractive, a lot of women will call them brooding and mysterious(I’ve seen this first hand). However, if the person is ugly, they will just be called a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:49 AM
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I disagree with this assessment, considering how we overrate women in society like how everybody rates Lizzo a ten but if she was a dude, she would literally be a -5. You also have to factor in the that men have higher libidos so they will have a lower threshold for what is attractive compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:46 AM
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Usually people reminding you about your ugly is not coming from people inside the echo chamber, but coming from your personal experience living through life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:44 AM
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I agree with the echo chamber thing, but I think part of that also is the fact that a lot of these echo chambers give good amount of colors, evidence that being ugly can have a very detrimental effect on your life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:44 AM
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A lot of those things are generated by the constant negative feedback from society that causes them to feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:21 AM
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True I don’t know why people keep forgetting the fact of only 20% of men are seen physically attractive by women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:06 AM
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The problem is, is that a lot of the self improvement has terrible ROI. Using myself as an example I have a 25 FFMI, I make 108k a year and I can still only get fat chicks. The reality is for a lot of below average men the improvement is just not worth it because he will still just end up below average due to their looks being that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:05 AM
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Highly doubt this, what issues do you think they’re facing that aren’t related to looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:02 AM
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Genuinely ugly women can still get dates because they’re in higher demand than ugly men are, just look at my 600 pound life women compared to my 600 pound life man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:01 AM
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Good thing that will never happen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:47 PM
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The majority of men don’t have options
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:34 PM
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Not true, most average women can get average man to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:36 AM
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Not really all you have to do is not be fat. That’s pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:15 AM
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No girl cares if you are better than 30% of people. What girls care about is that if you are better than 80% of people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:52 PM
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Ummmmm.. so have men's. A good chunk of my hookups have come from IG dms you dming girls, or girls dming you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:39 PM
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thats not almost cause being 3 inches is a whole standard deviation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:36 PM
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Agreed but short men usually have to work a lot harder than flat chested woman to get a partner due to mens low standards vs womens high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:34 PM
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Just curious because you say most people are disgusting but you didn’t really answer my question what in the appearance do you find attractive? Also, like most men, I have a very low threshold for attractiveness. All you have to do is just not be fat and don’t be too much of a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:05 AM
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Wait, why do you disagree? Because when you look at attractive aesthetic, being petite can be very attractive to a lot of men, but almost no women find Short men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:03 AM
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I’m still confused who you’re speaking of. Incels? I mean the developed definition not the literal one. Yes im talking about the people of [group that shall not be named] who are not neurodivergent and who arent entitled. Of those people what percentage of men do they make? MOST?!?! Yeah that’s just not even kind of true. There is a small minority of people men and women who are straight up not happy with the people in their dating pool but they’re the outliers, most people are average and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:26 PM
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Just because you adapt and navigate doesn't mean you get anything from the society the society. You have a small subset of men who are neurodivergent, extreme social anxiety, or just entitled as fuck, who don’t or can’t accept their options so they throw fits that’s again a small subset. My question was about what percent of men who don't fall into that category you are describing, aren't able to get dates due to societal external factors? I agree the market decides our dating pool, tell that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:31 PM
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curious to know then, what do you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:14 PM
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Most people live in the west where the average height is 5’9”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:43 PM
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I think he saying that being short is much more worse than being flat chested
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:42 PM
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That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about men who are self-aware and aren’t deemed Good enough by society versus men who think they’re the hot shit and think society is the problem. Also, nobody decides how attractive they are only society decides that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:38 PM
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I’m really curious to know what percentage of men do you think are not getting dates because they’re not self-aware versus men not getting dates because they’re not considered good enough by society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:38 PM
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Funny about perspectives since you aren't willing to listen to perspectives and arguments of others yourself, but if your done responding thats fine with me, but i will defend myself. I have listened and read your studies, the issue is that you citied studies that didnt even address my argument and talked about other things. Your argument about men gaining income after divorce is not true and not one study of yours showed that. If your study did, you would just quote that part of the study like …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:51 AM
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I dont really care what well-versed people use. You are just pivoting here and taking away from the main argument. Also I dont really care whats insensitive as that is constantly changing and people use insensitive words like "stupid" and "dumb" all the time. Also it is true high IQs are correlated with lower social skills but the same applies to low IQs too, so I dont know what your point is here. You need to understand what my argument is because you are clearly not understanding. I dont care …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:55 AM
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This would have no effect because most men aren’t fucking on the regular with different partners like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:51 AM
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How do people not take advantage of virginity? Lmao. People often use virginity against women as a form of control. By pedestalizing it and punishing promiscuity, it can be used against people. I think that virginity is used to put women down. Purity culture is extremely damaging and it’s incredibly sad how much it can harm people. When done right, I think it’s perfectly fine to live a life of extreme sexual virtue or making sex special in the way that it’s something you share with one person. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:05 PM
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Right so the whole “some degrees are useless” argument. First, in this day and age, most degrees can be very helpful, it just depends on how you use them. Plenty of electrical engineers are struggling financially because of how competitive the industry is. Sure it makes hella money but if you don’t know how to interview and don’t make connections, then what? If you can’t get the job because you can’t sell yourself or don’t work well with others or have terrible interviewing skills, that is much …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:34 AM
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I didn’t say virginity was an insult, I said people take advantage of it. Critically read and understand each of my statements before responding. Don’t think of what to say as you’re reading, just understand my point first and then respond. Because your comments are not addressing what I’m saying. How do people take advantage of your virginity? The stats for poverty of men after divorce aren’t the same. Duh. Otherwise the stats would be different. Men typically get richer and gain back 20% of ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:33 PM
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So this argument, I really despise because not only were you suggesting misogyny as a “easy solution” and admitted that women don’t really have struggles, you seriously deluded yourself into thinking that since the public consensus doesn’t think it’s okay, everything is fine. That was not the struggle I was talking about that comes with an easy solution. The struggle I was talking about mainly were the relationship struggles of women not wanting to just date down if they want a relationship. Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:06 PM
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Of course women are 15 times more likely to be killed then a guy because men are 15 times stronger than women. But again, all these things are super rare, so it doesn’t really matter anyway, especially when that 15 times multiplier is given for exchange of the fact that you’re giving 15 times more of the dating opportunity. Also I don’t care about stats for around the world I care about the stats of the west. of course around the world is gonna be higher because Women don’t have rights in Third …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:20 PM
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I’m not willing to admit that we have similar difficulties. Yeah we can say that it sucks, that so many men want to pump and dump you. But if you don’t want to deal with pump and dumping just make men wait for sex. That way the ones that really want to be with you will stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:54 PM
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I would rather have a spam filter and still get emails than have no emails at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:48 PM
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Hold on, be honest here. What is the percentage of women that get killed in murderers from men they choose in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:47 PM
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its easier than men. a lot easier
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:19 AM
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My struggle is seeing my stem friends not have anyone to work with because girls aren’t as smart even though we earn more degrees. There is a big difference in getting a degree in gender studies vs a degree in electrical engineering. This can be showcases by the fact that one degree has an objectively lower unemployment rate and higher average pay than the other. People respect my NO more when I say I have a boyfriend not when I say I’m just not interested. Correct this wrong when men do this. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:16 AM
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My struggle is that a lot of men will lie to get me in bed but it’s my fault for not getting enough. Virginity is honored in women. Nobody ever calls a woman a virgin as a way to insult, because virgin is a male-centric insult, due to the fact it is extremely easy for a woman to get sex. My struggle is that if I get married and divorced i have a 26% increase in poverty and lose 20% of income but it’s my fault he cheated because I didn’t put out enough. This applies both ways and it applies more …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:14 AM
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My struggle is my teachers not thinking I’m competent and not encouraging me to look at all careers. Im sorry but the reality is that the vast majority of teachers don't think like this(btw no one should think like this, however their will always be evil in this world). And for the teachers who do think like this, usually they are societally shamed or even fired for their thinking. That's why most of the teacher who think this way are discrete with their ideas. My struggle is gripping keys betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:08 AM
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Just responding to this now because this was a lot to read. But i do have a lot of contentions with your arguments. Right, so because I get hit on and groped without consent, I should happily accept that because men don’t ever get attention at all. Who believes this? Stop listening to redpillers on the internet and think that is the mainstream consensus of all men. The vast of majority of men do not think its cool for men to grope you without consent. And sexual assault isnt reeeeaally that much…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:05 AM
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How are you getting used then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:26 AM
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Then don’t have sex with those people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:29 AM
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Very curious to know what were the physical stats of this man? Was he’s over 6 feet, was he white
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:39 PM
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And all that means we have it easy. Hm. Okay. By what standard? Men’s? No by society’s. If you were to ask any person if they rather be a man or woman under those circumstances, they would choose women. Name 5 clear and succinct ways women face discrimination OR ways we struggle and have it hard. I don’t think they are five distinct ways but I can name two. First is facing sexual assault or harassment(which is pretty rare and can be easily avoided). Second, is having a more difficult ability to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:07 PM
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Regardless, i don't think the same exists for arab women, a lot of them look lighter skinned with steaighter hair and usually aren't fat feminists Maybe but I would definitely need to see a source on that though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:24 AM
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I understand that, but I mean that it is disproportionately higher. Like even though black women make up a certain percentage of the European population, they’re still not really marrying white men to par.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:52 AM
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they also rape them because of their culture and because they get punished less, white rapists don't have the privilege of being punished less like ethnics. Yeah that’s probably not a good thing. But to rape, somebody means to sexually be with somebody who doesn’t wanna be with you. Which, even though it’s imported, happens more with arab man, then Whiteman. arab women actually used to be fetishized in europe and they don't have feminism, black women are unattractive in america because of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:46 AM
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because low inhib animalistic poor class culture and islam is misogynistic, Why not just told the woman to be theirs instead of raping them then? You do understand that a lot of white women are rejecting these Islamic men That’s why their raping them. look at the marriage rates though, arab men x white women far outnumbers arab female x white men. That’s because Arab women aren’t seeing as pretty and as high status compared to white women just like black women aren’t. and yeah white x white is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:51 PM
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a lot of women like dark triads and immigrants whites You have no evidence for this. Every study shows that even European women like white men. became beauty standard because they colonized lands and raped women thus got badboy halo, now badboy halo is going to shitskinned men. Not really, even when it comes to hood black guys they really can only get ratchet black girls. talking about europe tbh, arab dark triads are popular in europe. So why do they have to rape so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:14 PM
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whites are cucks and low t now, shitskin refugee in europe rapes cumskin girls and doesn't even get approitate punishment because ''muh racism'' Bro, you just literally proved my point. If the white girls were attracted to the refugees, they wouldn’t be raping them. maybe whites would cuck all ethnics if they had white looks and black brain or some shit or if simply the current environment was different but it's now blacks and arabs taking their girls while they c pe with low e noodles. Arabs an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:45 PM
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Yeah but usually these gfs are extremely overweight. Also no black guys would be incel if he was white. White people are literally the beauty standard. That’s why they have to work a lot less harder to get a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:32 PM
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That’s because incels are fucking retarded and never step outside their basements and only know about sexual interactions through scripted bbc porn
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:13 PM
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They have more sexual partners that are usually black women or they are women that are extremely low quality(usually fat)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:45 PM
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The difference is that white men can’t have sex with black girls but can have sex with pretty much any other race. Even when it comes to Asian women, they will sometimes actually prefer white men over their own race. The same is not true for black men. They are usually disliked a lot by other races more than white men are. Also who said I prefer whiteness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:43 PM
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Even studies from more recent times show the same thing. And these are for dating apps, which everyone says one here is for hookups. Also black women choosing non Black men is true for every race(everyone prefers their own) https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/08/19/exploring-racial-bias-among-biracial-and-single-race-adults-the-iat/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:58 PM
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I’m not an incel. Also I have had sex with black women before
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:10 PM
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Then your just ugly, sorry man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:08 PM
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Bro, I live in Alabama, so it’s gonna be a little bit more difficult than a man from South Carolina. You guys got the beach and the white girls down there on the beach aren’t even from that area they are usually tourists. But honestly, I might try to find a white girl who is blackpilled and can be honest with me, so I can try your advice. That’s gonna be hard to find though because most of the white girls I show my Tinder all say it’s good when I know they’re lying. Surprised though you’re not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:11 AM
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Where do you live that your pulling snow bunnies? Because I live in the south, and there aren’t any down here. Everybody here is a racist as fuck. Also, I already go to the gym and have a top one percent body no white girl cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:41 AM
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This might be true if you’re hi to your black man like your 6’4” and or an athlete. But for the rest of us average Black people we get the leftovers. It’s like Dr. umar Johnson said. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228251596_Black-White_Marital_Matching_Race_Anthropometrics_and_Socioeconomics
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:31 AM
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True, black women do you love us that’s true for every race. Every race loves their own race, the most. Also, most of the snow buddies that love black men are extremely overweight and only like black men because they are rejected by White men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:54 AM
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They absolutely are not. There are no studies that back this up. Most show that black men aren’t even chosen when they make more than their white counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:53 AM
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You’re probably super ugly then or a minority in a white majority area. Sorry to break it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:51 AM
1

What is a political salon?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:33 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:33 PM
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What if he did it cause it was his only option?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:23 PM
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Well, those men are probably Chads or idiots. Every man I’ve talk to you that’s not extremely attractive has told me the opposite. He said 30 to 40 that’s why I said 30. Also, the only reason most men are considered duds, because most men arent considered attractive enough by women. Also, all those men are my competition if I’m in the same looks ranges as them. That’s not what you had responded before sinced you edit your answer. But okay I guess. As for being a black woman, I do understand that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:04 PM
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Where do you see men get this advice cause I certainly don’t see it. Also, I don’t have content for you. I just think your advice comes from a very privileged view, so it’s not very useful. Also, I was saying I didn’t ask you because you just randomly replied to my comment where I was trying to get an answer out of somebody else. Are you kidding? Lol. This is why I said that you have a Privilege view. 30% is a terrible ratio is the same ratio on bumble which we know is a horrible way to meet wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:39 PM
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That’s not the only reason, why you guys have it easy. There’s a multitude of reasons. Do you guys usually don’t have to do the approaching. You guys don’t have to be charismatic or be rich. The standards for you are much lower for relationships. A lot you guys don’t even have to be pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:32 PM
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Where did you meet your girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:18 PM
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Why? we literally have the second lowest SMV next to Asians?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:13 PM
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The reason I said you’re a woman is literally because of what you just said on how you met your man. Any guy was literally tell you that doing sports leagues is the worst place to meet girls. Mostly because of the gender balance. It’s very interesting that your league and sports clubs are like 60% women. But most aren’t like that especially where I live, so all the men in your League are very lucky in that regard. My brain to glitch I just know that women don’t give good advice when it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:10 PM
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I didn’t ask you, you’re a woman. I don’t talk to the fish for advice. Also, there is no game that you have to play. Also, I’ve been to sports leagues it’s all dudes. It’s one of the worst places you can go to meet girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:53 PM
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I get that, but where do you meet them irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:49 PM
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You must have some exemplary girlfriends. Where do you meet these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:24 AM
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How did you meet these friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:14 AM
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My guy, 70% of men are average or below average. I don’t think they are trying to claim single especially since they know that’s all they can get in terms for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:02 AM
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What genuine advice have you given to men? I’m curious to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:51 PM
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Well clearly it’s not billions since 63% of men are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:12 PM
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You are not a normal dude if you are 6’4”, that alone already puts you in the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:58 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:29 PM
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Bro, it’s not about that. The zoomer generation is a lot different than previous generations. The only reason that people use online dating up so heavily is because approaching in real life, seems creepy by Zoomers, especially zoomer women. Also, combine that with the fact that Zoomers don’t go outside and all they do is sit at home and sit on Netflix all day. So the reality is the only thing you can really use is all my dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 06:35 PM
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Link to the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:04 AM
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You literally need testosterone for your muscles to develop. That’s why I even the strongest, biggest body dollars in powerlifters all lose strength and muscle mass after the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:23 PM
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I know it cuz I'm 5'11 and get approached from time to time, and I'm no 8. Do you get approached by attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:40 PM
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your female, it doesnt count for you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:34 PM
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Timothée Chalamet
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:31 PM
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no your not. Your test levels literally peak at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:29 PM
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In what way? Everything starts to plateau after 30(your colleagen production, your muscle mass, some men even start shrinking in height)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:25 PM
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Almost 50% of gen z(meaning 18-22, which is what all red pillers want) are using OLD, so even if it isnt real life right now. It sure is becoming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:18 PM
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The false premise that you need work to be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:19 PM
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Thank you for an actual descriptive example. But im very curious to know then, what percent of men do you think don't behave in the way you just described? Because it seems with this new red pill wave and PUA courses, men are trying to run game on women all the time. Just look at the meme "rizz", that's not something that existed even three years ago. Also can i think the idea of talking to women like your best friends is a good idea, but can be dangerous depending on the women and how you talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:42 PM
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Thank you for an actual descriptive example. But im very curious to know then, what percent of men do you think behave in the way of being a wallflower and never talking to girls? Because it seems with this new red pill wave and PUA courses, men are trying to run game on women all the time. Just look at the meme "rizz", that's not something that existed even three years ago. Also what about people who behave in this "confident" way and are seemed as arrogant by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:35 PM
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do you not believe most men are comfortable in their situation? Also doesn't red pill teach you should never be comfortable in your situation, that you should always be improving?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:27 PM
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Men literally go to the gym to attract women and have an easier time talking to them. Also your delusional if you think men are avoiding men, considering the fact that PUA and red pillers are making more money now then ever selling desperate men PUA courses because they are trying to find out different ways of talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:45 PM
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It’s interesting you say that your boyfriend brings punk skater and redneck vibes because usually all that is is jeans and some type of sleeveless tank top and then some jewelry accessories. And for redneck it’s just usually jeans, cowboy boots in a camo jacket. At least that’s what I see all the time of white people wear down here in the south.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:55 PM
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What are you talking about, Insecure and low self-esteem? Aren’t most men on their sigma male grind set. Do you truly believe that most men aren’t changing? There has been a huge increase of number of men going to the gym because they want women that badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:53 PM
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What do you mean by this? Can you please give me an example of a man with an unsexy personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:50 AM
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All you people say this, but what do you expect meant to dress up as? Because whenever I look online of people with “good style”, all I see are people wearing matching sweats.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:46 AM
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Why do men find this like a surprising thing that most people don't just show up conventionally hot with no effort at all and have to have social skills? Because all your assumptions are based on a false premise. If I am extremely short, I will never be considered hot, which is something I cannot work on. If I am born in the wrong race, I will never be considered hot, which is not something I can work on. If I am born with deformities in my face, which is something I cannot work on, depending on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:26 AM
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Um, they use specific determinations for the study as to what is considered "muscular" because that is how every study works, Yeah and I'm telling you that specific determination of muscular is garbage because it is not the proper determination. and in the second study they literally show you the pictures they use lmao. I thought you read it .But you missed the pictures? How? Read them again I guess, cause you missed the pictures of lean dudes with arms like Brad Pitt in Fight Club being chosen …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:19 AM
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I’ve read both of those studies multiple times from front to back. And if you knew anything about them, you know there’s two big problems with the studies. The first problem being that when it comes to muscle, it is on a spectrum where if you have too much muscle, you’re actually seen as less attractive than a man with little amount of muscle. The second is that they don’t even define what is considered muscular correctly. And you seem to be doing the same thing here, considering the fact you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:58 AM
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Your experience doesn’t reflect the reality. You don’t even need a body like vine hacker to get girls. All you need to do is just be lean. That’s it. Almost any man can literally have abs by just doing running. Don’t waste your time doing body weight exercises unless you are a literal skeleton. The only reason you get more IOI now after getting “fit”. Is because I can bet that your face changed after you got fit because you lost fat in your face and got more facially attractive. Or you were able…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:33 AM
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People need to quit with this idiotic gymmaxxing meme that having muscles get you women. All you’re doing when you say this is appealing to the male gaze and creating bodybuilding rejects in the dating scene. No girl cares about your athleticism, all they care about is that are not obese(unless you live in the south). The reality is no women cares. If women did care you would see it in their IOI in the dating world. Just look at TikTok high value women aren’t commenting under videos of James Eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:19 AM
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What men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:03 AM
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That’s not the point of my argument. My point is that you were saying women can detect those type of men but clearly they can’t if they’re being abused
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:49 PM
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I was spending time getting muscle, which actually makes you less flexible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:48 PM
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or it seems that women arent as great of detectives like you made them out to be, and need to do better when "smelling bad boys from a mile away"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:35 PM
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Go buy a dog and join a yoga class and meet women IRL at that point. Again, not kidding. most women are going to be very wary of a man joining a yoga class, and usually those yoga classes are filled with old women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:33 PM
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And if the improvement doesn’t get the results, then what? I literally went to the gym for the past six years and makeover six figures and I still struggle getting women. What Hope does the average man have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:02 PM
1

How did you become friends with this girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:00 PM
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Well, that’s very interesting considering that almost every woman that I talk to you on the planet complains about her abusive boyfriend or ex that they get back with almost every year
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:00 PM
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Rule 9:No Blackpill Content u/Mrs_Drgree ban him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:58 PM
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I went to club last week actually. Every girl there was with her boyfriend. And all the other girls weren’t looking for a date. Clubs are almost as bad as dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:45 PM
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What do you expect men to do instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:43 PM
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we as women can smell boys like that from a mile away. No you can’t Stop lying . If this was true women wouldn’t complain about f boys screwing them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:33 PM
1

How did you come across this house party?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:13 PM
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You need to be good looking to even get the match in the first place to show that your interesting and motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:10 PM
1

New York is a good place to date but it’s still terrible overall. It’s like being the tallest person in kindergarten.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:05 PM
1

Where do you go out at?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:02 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:59 PM
1

True, but they sure do beatbux them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:59 AM
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What are you basing this off of?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:30 AM
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No, I mean like pay for platinum not like pay for a boost
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:13 PM
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Get back on the app and pay for it this time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:35 AM
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He’s probably not as attractive as you think he is. How tall is he even? u/CruelAngelGradThesis
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:34 AM
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Were any of these serial killers unattractive? Many people end up in jail for murder. It’s just very funny that the only people who get the letters are people who look like Ted Bundy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:30 PM
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Leonardo DiCaprio is a multi millionaire celebrity. That is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:29 PM
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It’s not that being attractive makes you an asshole it’s about being attractive gets you women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:27 PM
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I’m glad that people are starting to realize this. Nice guys don’t finish last, ugly guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:23 PM
1

You really love shit stirring the pot, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:55 PM
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Are you Asian?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:33 PM
1

I’m saying average for single women looking for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:12 PM
1

Just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:12 PM
1

That’s pretty average I would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:30 PM
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Enough change for the rate to start to decrease (like the chart shows) for men and rise for women? Yes. I can promise you that it will probably go back up in a couple years. Because you can look at the overall trend, and it’s still higher than it was in previous years. The fact that you dismiss the changes to the world right after a pandemic are telling. I didn’t say it didn’t change. I said it didn’t change in regards to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:30 PM
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What are you talking about? Men do that all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:59 PM
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You really think the world is changed that much in four years? Do you have any evidence of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:15 AM
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What criteria are you using to measure that? Like, are you fat at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:14 AM
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Most married men would remain faithful period. Women approaching men that aggressively is creepy and would never work out. You’re delusional and don’t hang out with enough men if you really don’t think that’s the case. There are men literally out there, paying just to have a woman near them. You really don’t think that they will be OK with women approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:27 AM
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Despite what you might think I do actually touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:25 AM
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Bro, I have literally said this multiple times. Women aren’t having sex because they can’t women aren’t having sex because they don’t want too. Learn the difference. If I am making thousands of dollars of course I’m not going to lower myself having sex with men. Also, women aren’t so sex obsessed like you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:40 PM
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Not the just OLD. The online space in general. Also the majority of women aren’t on old because the majority of women aren’t single looking for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:25 PM
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Just because your built the certain way doesn’t mean you have the ability to do something. The average man makes 55k a year. You wouldn’t be any different if you were born a man, because I’m pretty sure your also an average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:24 PM
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If married men were presented with the opportunity to cheat on their wife with a hotter women and not get caught they would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:21 PM
1

No. OLD is already mainstream before Covid. All Covid did was speed up the process
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:20 PM
1

not in the way of think
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:39 PM
1

if you dont desire as a woman, didnt you probably also wouldnt desire as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:38 PM
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no because were talking about change in terms of dating not just in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:37 PM
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i think this is mostly semantics. But i mostly sure i wont be that different at 30 because i not so different than i am right now than i was at 20
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:57 AM
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Again, the problem is is that young people can’t have sex not that they’re waiting on it. Also I can count back five years. I would be 20. I can vividly remember my life five years ago it’s not that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:29 AM
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That is not true at all. There’s so many men that with you otherwise, if they knew that another woman was still after them, especially that one was hotter than the wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:26 AM
1

Doubtful. I bet you don’t even make more than six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:26 AM
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Not all, but most
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:04 AM
1

Because men are desperate horn dogs who don’t care what women do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:15 PM
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men just wanna get out of doing everything you wouldn't last a day being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:11 PM
1

yep
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:05 PM
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5 years is not that along, espically in terms of where the culture and market stood(with things like OLD and Instagram still existing back then). Also 30 percent is not the majority but it is a big jump from 10 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:03 PM
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Tell me something. How do you explain away the FACT that almost all the more outrageous claims are made by guys with zero experience in dating, including the above? Don't you think that is telling in and of itself? Think about it. I disagree that they dont have experience. Most men are red pilled because they do have experience with women. Where women would use them for money or they would monkey branch to a richer, hotter guy that gave them the opportunity to be with them. At the end of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:01 PM
1

and the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:50 PM
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you call it obvious, but things like the red pill show its not obivious. Red pillars dont even believe women can love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:50 PM
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I’m pretty sure back in the day they were trying to get women to be allowed in the military back then. Yes but they weren't trying to lower the standards to just let any women in who couldn't pass the original test. At the end of the day: every dude has to lol mirror and that person staring right back at them knows wether they really did work as hard as they could that day to get what they wanted. You can’t lie to him that dude knows exactly if dudes could have done more or didn’t made excuses. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:48 PM
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Huh? You're telling me men dating women just because most men like women isn't a thing? Sorry pal, but that's exactly how the vast, vast majority do indeed operate. Citation needed for this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:05 PM
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First off: you and me neither know what it was “like back then” don’t act like either of us is an expert in “feminism history” just cause you want to act like today is full of such oppression (like hooters, strip clubs, spring break and Onlyfans don’t exist) Im not an expert, but I know feminists in 1992 wouldn't be advocating for things like quotas or lowering standards in the military like today feminists do. But stop this “oh it’s more men, I can’t compete” bro the dudes that think that could…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:01 PM
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How would women approaching more fix this issue? If Sarah would be fine without sex for a few months and would only approach men once every couple months or so, and Bob wants sex at least once a week, he's still not getting what he wants, despite women being more open to approach. Because Sarah approaching Bob could result in a relationship, where Bob could get his constant casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:46 PM
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Bro 30 years ago was 1992. Feminism was still around and of OLD “destroyed” some dudes sex lives than so be it: how pathetic is that?! Feminism in 1992 is nothing like feminism today. Like those guys were going to be able to talk to a girl? Cold approach? Warm approach? Compete IRL in bars and clubs with dudes that weren’t “defeated by OLD”? Straight up this is just sad complaining about not getting Tinder matches isn’t it? Wow Dude what is your issue? This is why I say older red pillers are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:39 PM
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stop listening to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:30 PM
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well considering how hard pussy is to get that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:28 PM
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no, but im a dude. im not allowed to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:24 PM
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I'm labeled as "clingy" or "crazy" if I approach a man I'm interested. by who? Other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:23 PM
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nobody here said it was a crisis stop exaggerating and straw manning. All im saying is that it is much harder for men to have sex on average than it was 30 years ago, because of things like OLD and feminism. So you cant just say that men need to "improve", because there is a bigger societal problem going on here. Also i already addressed that women are not having sex because they dont want to, not because they cant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:15 PM
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come on down to Huntsville al. Men outnumber women here like 3 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:11 PM
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There's no indication that each woman even rated the same 20% of men as attractive. there are other studies you can read where, it shows the women only find certain archetypes attractive. And that range for what women find attractive is a lot smaller than what men find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:11 PM
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do you not know how trends work? Just because it has been going down for a few years doesn't mean that overall men are having a harder time getting sex. Even when it is going to the number is still atomically higher than it was in the 80s and 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:08 PM
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No, I live in an area where competition is heavy. And I go to a gym where all my friends girlfriends are fat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:02 AM
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Where is dropping? Men sexless numbers are still going up. Also, where is the lie, it is much harder for men to have sex now than ever before even red pillars, agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:00 AM
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Except that they aren’t. In fact there are currently more sexless women than men Those women are sexless because they choose not to have sex, not because they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:31 PM
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this disproves my argument how?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:30 PM
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its not. https://web.archive.org/web/20120723173702/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:19 PM
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Well considering the fact that its is statistically proven that loneliness, depression, and suicide are skyrocketing(especially among men), I heavily disagree. Not to mention more people(men really) are single than ever before and less men are having sex than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:17 PM
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Are these older women, who found there relationships before OLD? Because when I walk around all I see are women dating men out of their league. Its insane that amount of 250+ pound women I see dating ripped bodybuilders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:14 PM
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not possible if your not in that top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:01 PM
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being used is not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:57 PM
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Most women today have terribly low standards. In what regard? Most women want a dude who is attractive, 6ft+, makes more than six figures, emotionally available, and is matches their values exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:57 PM
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then find a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:52 PM
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I don't know about you, but I dated because I liked women. Sex was just the cherry on top. thats great for you. you are the exception but the vast majority of people dont operate that way. You don't see women buying onlyfans like men, because newsflash, men and women are different. this is true, but im talking about the men who buy lonelyfans because they are desperate for affection. the same men who will buy women for the gfe experience or pay women to play video games with them. Or only pay wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:46 PM
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ioi is not pursuit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:38 PM
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No I said women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. There are times when women(especially ugly women) will settle for men not in that category if they can’t get anything at all. Also when I was talking about creating relationships I was talking about genuine relationships not relationships based off of desperation or gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:32 PM
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That or they’re dating extremely ugly women that are way below their looks level. Also aren’t you almost in your 40s? You were dating when the market was completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:24 PM
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the whole issue with dating right now, is that there are more single men who want to date than single women. So that leaves a unequal ratio in the dating market, giving women more power. Humans are shallow and only date for specific reasons. For women its attention and resources and for men its sex. Women can get attention and resources without dating but men cannot get sex without dating. This causes a lot more women to leave the dating market than men leading to an imbalance between men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:11 PM
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Good luck with that considering women are only attracted to the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:08 PM
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how can you start if you dont even have the tools to do the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:02 PM
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Tell her your intentions and if she’s not interested bounce she's not interested in you, because she doesn't find you physical attractive that's my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:01 PM
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how old is your freind?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:57 PM
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sure, but all that does is get you friend zoned. you still need to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:56 PM
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you still need to be actually attractive to form a relationship though. just being fun and interesting just gets you friend zoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:55 PM
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Isn’t this a big talking point on here? Women throw themselves at Chads? My point is that he doesn’t have to be a Chad, he just has to be highly attractive to a specific woman for whatever reason, and she will pursue. Almost all women are attracted to the same dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:50 PM
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And trust me, if a woman liked you, she'd be putting in the effort too. If she's not putting in any effort, she wasn't thst into you this only applies to the top 20% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:45 PM
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not everybody can become rich or attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:43 PM
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Know of a guy who complained that he usually gets matches from older women on Tinder (not much older) and they see him as a boytoy while he is interested in a relationship. is this friend 6ft and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:36 PM
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because women would rather be single than have their standards not met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:29 PM
1

arent most puas white?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:19 PM
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Again, that’s all fine and dandy but that’s only if you have an actual chin to begin with. Most men don’t have good bones, despite not being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:54 PM
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Again, this is all based on bone facial structure. Which is something you cannot change
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:41 PM
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OK why do you think black men approach so much compared to white?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:51 PM
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You can buy emotional support. Most men don’t need those other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:50 PM
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Most things women do for men men can already do for themselves or pay somebody to do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:24 AM
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I think he saying you’re delusional because you think that meditating changes your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:38 PM
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You are heavily projecting here. The reality is most men don’t care if they did. You wouldn’t see millions of men going after sugar mamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:16 PM
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It’s like women who say they put on makeup for “themselves” Glad somebody admits it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:56 PM
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That sounds respectable. However, I would be curious on when you met these women and how you met these women. Just because the dating game has changed a lot since the early 2000s and even early 2010s. Also, the fact of these women are overweight or not play a big role. All I know is that for a lot of my fit friends and myself included us getting fit, did nothing in increasing our SMV. If anything, it made it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:05 AM
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I don’t know what that had to do with me saying just being fit doesn’t put you into the top 20% , but I highly doubt your chad light considering, you said yourself, you get frequently rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:25 AM
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You can look at the studies on this. They all point tothe same thing. Black man are just undesirable in dating. https://web.archive.org/web/20100821055448/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/ https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/12/11/online-dating-shows-us-the-cold-hard-facts/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:23 AM
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If an attractive, charming guy starts talking to her when she's grocery shopping or Christmas shopping she's not going to reject him just because they're not at the "Designated Place Men and Women Meet." The keyword here is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:41 AM
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No way this is true. Most white women prefer Whiteman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:23 AM
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Yeah, because they get rejected the most
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:23 AM
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There are more single men looking to date than single women. Also multiple women can date one guy(usually unknowingly though )
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:01 PM
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Getting fit will not put you into the top 20% of men. That is just a fantasy. Nobody cares if you are fit, you need to have a good face to be in the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:34 PM
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People look at emotional intelligence, shared interests, communication, values, character, sexual compatibility, etc. But you’re just bypassing all of those factors and pinpointing looks as the reason why men are more single. Again, you cannot logically draw that conclusion. It just feels correct to you so you’re running with it. That’s all fine and dandy, but this is the real world where some factors hold more weight than others. And unfortunately the factor that holds the most weight is looks.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:09 PM
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What do you mean? that’s exactly why. If it’s not, can you explain to me why for women under the age of 30 only 30% of them are single
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:30 PM
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Most of the men that are in that position are over the ages of 40 and they have had almost their whole lives to get into a good position. You can actually look up the average income of a man in is fifties and it’s only 66K. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/18/heres-how-much-men-and-women-earn-at-every-age.html If they truly cared about their masculinity, they be in a much better position than they are now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:29 PM
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What claim were unfounded? Almost every study shows that South Asians and Indians do horrible when dating in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:14 PM
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How does that contradict JBW? White women still like white men more than they like black men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:12 PM
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…What does any of that have to do with not caring about masculinity? Dude, are you serious? Watch any red pill channel. People like fresh and fit, Andrew Tate, and Hamza. Always talk about what makes a man has value in masculine is the ability to provide(being rich) and also having a good physique that society respects(being strong and muscular). Most men don’t have these things. Also do you think that most men set out to not be billionaires? Do you think that’s by choice or something. What type…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:59 PM
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Over 50% of men under the age of 30 are single. I don’t care about your anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:44 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:40 PM
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Just got back from touching grass. Turns out that all women are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:38 PM
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Lots of guys can only get with chubby and ever downright fat women FIFY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:34 PM
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Considering the fact that most men are fat fucks who aren’t billionaires I would say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:28 PM
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You mean being a SAHD? Neither men nor women are typically happy in relationships where the wife out-earns the husband so I’m not so sure about that.. But then again, it is a billion dollars. So, who knows I guess.. Only red pillars are not OK with this because they have an obsession with masculinity, most men don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:55 PM
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Bro that is not the reason why. Talk to any bodybuilder darker skin shows off muscle easier
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:06 PM
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What are you talking about women or getting pregnant? The fertility rate in the US right now is literally almost under 1.6. None of these women are getting pregnant. Most of the time if you see an overweight woman with a child is because she was thin before and got overweight overtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:47 AM
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I can’t evolve if women don’t want me because I’m too short or not the correct race.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:45 AM
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Highly doubtful. Most men who go to the gym are not extremely attractive that’s why they’re at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:41 AM
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Black people are not naturally built lol. The only reason it seems that Black people have more muscle than white people is because of the dark skin color and dark skin shows off muscle better than white skin does. That’s why bodybuilders get tan before shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:40 AM
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Yes, it does because it requires above average guys to be even more above average due to the fact that regular above average dudes are going for under average girls
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:56 PM
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A very small minority of males like that body.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:51 PM
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If they were horny, they could get a large variety of girls. But want they. They can’t get any woman because those are average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:46 PM
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They were probably lying to you about the steroid use
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:44 PM
1

Are you a high status male or athlete? Why are you concerned with what they are doing. They drive 250,000 dollar cars also and over 90percent of males cannot do that or will never do that. Why are you trying to speak for males or about males that you have nothing in common with? Are you really this dense? He’s asking that question to make the point that men go after women they afford not who they necessarily want. That’s why we brought up the point about rich men because they can have anybody th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:42 PM
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https://images.app.goo.gl/wXGQ1eB5HppAhsNS6
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:26 PM
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Average Men cannot even get average girls. Just look at the amount of single men under 30 versus single women under 30
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:23 PM
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They absolutely do not. If Caribbean men had to choose between Kate Upton and Megan stallion. They would definitely choose Kate Upton.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:20 PM
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They’re women, they don’t need to improve. They get millions of matches a day without having to improve and being at the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:04 PM
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They’re women, they don’t need to improve. They get millions of matches a day without having to improve and being at the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:04 PM
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And if he didn’t have that you would still choose him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:51 AM
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I don’t know why it is that you have so many people talk about women being post wall and thinking their disgusting And only wanting women under the age of 25. But will do everything in their power to do anything but appeal to that niche of people. The only people that are attracted by these romance novels you speak of our women over the age of 55. No young woman in her lates teens Or early 20s is attracted to that. What women are attracted to now are skinny TikTok Eboys like this one. https://im…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:49 AM
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That’s all women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:43 PM
1

So why were you saying before the dark hair was a plus
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:45 PM
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You don’t have to be healthy and you just need to be successful. And when I say successful I mean rich
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:45 PM
1

Correct but those girls still need to think you’re attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:50 PM
1

The OP in question was about does exercising help you get women so of course I’m going to talk about pussy. Also if men weren’t addicted to pussy this sub wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:49 PM
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Well you probably could’ve got a real dark haired man if you weren’t postwall
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:48 PM
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What physical traits made him attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:56 AM
1

And your point is? Because why would I do something that’s difficult to do and it gives me no return on investment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:55 AM
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Daniel Radcliffe it’s like a five he just has money and status. Do you have a picture of your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:52 AM
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You literally just said one of the reasons you found your husband is because you thought he was attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:51 AM
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Exercises have a return on investment with your health not with dating. And exercising does not increase your SMV unless you are a literal fat fucking whale.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:29 AM
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You talk about performing better in bed and going to the gym because of that. But if I’m not getting sex at all why does it matter how good I am in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:28 AM
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Being confident doesn’t really matter if the girl thinks your face is ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:27 AM
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Here you go https://images.app.goo.gl/dwZ6U7XAGx3zvU6L6
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:26 AM
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Women talk about men being too muscular all the time what are you on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:24 AM
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My guy please do not waste your time working out. If you truly want to get women money Maxx and get plastic surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:23 AM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:21 AM
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