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Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:59 PM
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Yea when ur tryna pull other emotionally distant women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:58 PM
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This must be you then. No u This could never be me because I'm a beautiful woman and I just told you I'm engaged to be married. Merry Christmas
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:24 AM
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Women dictate that dynamic because they’re the ones with all the leverage. Why do yall pedestalize women so much, relationships require 2 to tango, everything is not up to the woman If she’s not happy with him providing resources, but not emotional investment, she leaves. Most divorces are initiated by women. If you actually look up the top 5 reasons divorce is initiated, it has nothing to do with "oh im not happy with what hes providing, im leaving". Women nowadays are providing $$ money too. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:04 AM
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But how? Is what im asking like do u actually hang around women, mingle with them, listen to them etc. Cause for all I know u could just be observing women thru social media algorithms, or listening to what other dudes want u to believe about women, because what ur saying is too generalistic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:37 AM
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Men on the other hand are let off the hook because they're visual creatures So are women. Men are far more forgiving and far less discriminatory towards women on a physical basis than vice versa. You literally cut out the rest of the sentence that follows the statement u quoted. If u add that in, no, women aren't the same as men in that sense. She's speaking on how women are generally more emotionally invested while their role as mothers and wives depend this. Whereas men believe their biggest i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:23 AM
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And where is this idea coming from? Cause this definitely isn't what OP is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:17 AM
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Interesting. Well Merry Christmas
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:31 AM
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I got some of my absolute dream women I wanted too. Dream women. Plural? Why are there multiple if they are your dream woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:37 AM
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Plus, people change their mind, I thought I just wanted to be casual then the next day I said you’re my girlfriend and she agreed. So basically this "relationship" consists of a dude who's afraid of intimacy, and a woman who is willing to accept a man she knows very little about. Just sounds like you both are emotionally unavailable ppl who formed a relationship based on sex and the physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:07 AM
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It is working. The women who leave are emotionally available and want to meet men who match their energy. In general, women value sex with commitment, more than men do, so casual sex isn't in a woman's best interest. What you are looking for are specific types of women who want sex, without commitment. They're definitely out there, but it will take some time to find them because they generally seem to get their emotions involved in the sex they have with men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:58 AM
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And how has that worked out for you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:23 AM
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Exactly 💯 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:53 AM
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To each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:58 PM
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Lol yup 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:03 PM
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Casually dating is literally sex without comittment, or labels of bf and gf, which implies ppl are having causal sex, hookups and fwb that lead to something more. All u did was reitierate what i said probably cause ur just obsessed with trying to be right. You literally just got done saying most relationships start with only one or two casual hookups in between, and now ur saying somethig different, which is weird to claim cause you personally would not know how many times ppl are getting togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:01 PM
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What are you new to earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:52 PM
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Reread what I said in the comment u responded to A man is never going to convince me otherwise, cause yall truly don't know Women can always get unlimited short-term relationships with average dudes who just want someone to sleep with No shit. Lots of women are down for that too. However, the average older woman is not getting serious looks from dudes worth a shit. The most attractive older women? Of course, but to a lesser extent than the most attractive 20-40 YO women. Yes maybe many men like …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:51 PM
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As far as the bottom two pics are concerned, men just need to live a healthy lifestyle. It takes a bit of self-control. No this is not true. Funny you mention this because I was briefly a geneticist after college- a beer gut and ED are genetic. Men generally hold their weight in the gut, and as ppl age your hormones start to decline so ppl naturally just start putting on weight where their bodies hold it the most. And no, that whole talk about men starting at the wall is nonsense. Because geners…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:45 PM
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As much of the doodoo red pillers say about women and u wanna talk out this polically correct meme being mean. Facts arent mean, theyre just facts. Plus please hush with that nonsense about men aging better. It's really not a gender thing but rather a genetic thing. A man can live the healthiest life and still get with ED and a balding head. Women on the other hand don't have to worry about neither of those things. Plus let's be real, black women generally age better than a majority of white men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:07 PM
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And what is most to you? There's nothing to be confused about cause there are many women who are down for having causal sex and no comittment, just as there are women who only want sex within committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:49 PM
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No it doesn't. Bye now. Dudes that wanna insult arent dudes worth discussing anything with
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:57 AM
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Has nothing to do with the topic of discussion but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:12 AM
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You equated having lots of sex in a relationship with being a woman who has been with other men, being a promiscuous woman and dressing provocatively. Lol the way you worded this is... idk. And no. My claims aren't weird. I just dont think you properly interpreted what im saying, and I can tell based you above statement. Look I dont have the energy to debate or discuss this any further, considering that other ppl up voted what I said clealry they understand what I mean, so have a good night
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:19 AM
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Well the majority of men who want what you stated DONT have the complex because they very much will enjoy sex with their virgin wife. It's very rare for men today to have virgin wives, or even meet an adult woman whos a virgin The madonna whore complex within men is usually within their psychology as early as childhood, so regardless of they type of women he is dating, it'll be within them until they heal it What these men don’t ever want to acknowledge is just as they want sex and relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:15 AM
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Enjoying sex in relationships/marriage has nothing to do with enjoying sex outside commitment. I've never said the 2 were similar Those two can and very often are, diametrically opposed Yes and this is why guys are hypocrites This logic would be like saying if you enjoy sex you should enjoy being raped. It’s both sex. No. Uhm that's weird. Why do yall make weird comparisons to get ur point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:37 AM
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The Madonna whore complex is when a man only desires to have sex with whores, feeling that Madonna’s are too pure for his animalistic urges. I'm already aware of the definition. You just reiterated what I already said above. If I may ask, what made you believe this desire was equal? Idk what u mean here. I never said that anything was equal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:33 AM
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Yes. Disgusting 🫣 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:29 AM
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But I'm asking how exactly have you observed this? Like so u interact with women and this is what u noticed based on what they tell you or?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:27 AM
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I definitely feel that. Well good luck with everything!! 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:47 AM
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I'm fifty-one. It's not so much that I'm so surprised that I am still getting asked out a lot - I always have been, even when many of my female friends struggled. It's the much younger guys that throw me. I mean, society set me up for being ignored, and really, I was fine with that. Exactly. Although all women probably can't relate, in general, guys of all ages value women of all ages. If anything 30s seems to be where women do better know dating. I love how the film 13 going on 30 refers to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:33 AM
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Bro no you don't love women. Everything you said is rooted in misogyny. You just love what they can do for u BUT- we aren’t going to MARRY YALL in an anti male court system. Speak for yourself, I've ready been proposed to thrice, and men all over USA are marrying the llve of their lives. if you flirted with over 1000 women and still have no success with women, they obvi don't want u marrying them I’ll get a passport & find a wifey overseas. Why are trying to marry women, if dating means nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:36 AM
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😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:23 AM
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Ok gotcha. I think guys in general want women who want a lot of sex. As much as guys say they want low n girls for marriage, really the women they prioritize are the baddies, the promiscuous women and the ones who dress provocatively. When it comes to settling down, they just don't want to accept that women have been with other men. Cause even when they are in a relationship they want a woman who wants to have a lot of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:22 AM
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I have hit on THOUSANDS of women in real life (I did 5 hours ago); and I STILL worry about some broad putting me on blast on TikTok or something for me simply asking for her number. Just throw the towel in at this point. It's odd that a man who thinks so low of women also attempts to flirt with them and date them. If you're up in the THOUSANDS, then clearly you aren't a man worth dating to those women. Also why are you hitting on women, if dating to women means nothing? Why should they give u th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:52 AM
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Yes and most relationships start out thru casual sex, and hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:47 AM
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Oh lol yes. Please do. Let's save this world one meme at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:43 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:42 AM
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Yes take it girl. Lemme give u some more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:42 AM
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Lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:41 AM
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As women age, they typically very abruptly & out of nowhere lose their looks. This is not true at all. You act like every woman ages like avocados. Black dont crack, many black women will look the same age for like 20 years. Same goes for Asian women, Don’t get fat. Workout. Cook & clean a bit. Don’t be a bitch. Don’t have 7 kids by 3 dudes. Settle down by age 25 YOish. Be feminine. Be a man’s peace. And for men, don't be fat. Workout. Don't be a misogynist. Be an adult and cook and clean as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:41 AM
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Then tell me why everytime a married man suggests they open their relationship, the WOMAN always does better and is the one with loads of options. This is how i know the wall is just made up. Depending on the man, it always means something different. Yall just think you're entitled to, and deserving of a woman's youth and are butthurt that she spent those years with anyone who wasn't you. My mom is 51, and has dudes of ALL ages breaking down her door to date her. And even fighting eachother to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:16 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:09 AM
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why should he simply accept his circumstances instead of working to improve? Many guys don't have this mindset. Instead they believe womens standards are the problem, who they pick and how they behavior. Most of what men complain about in this sub is how dating is unfair to them due to the choices of women, instead of improving what they can change. Again, hot Stacy is just a female equalivalent of Chad, so this is like a woman giving advice to other women to improve to win the affection of Chad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:59 PM
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), I’ve learned this dynamic from women How exactly have u learend this from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:53 PM
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🤯🤯🤯🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:52 PM
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Ofc ppl can A lot of men and women also want sex, while single. Some ppl want a lot of sex in relationship, and some ppl want and experience both.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:51 PM
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Let's be real- most men who are having causal sex with women aren't strictly having sex with hoes. Many of these women are the same people who end up in committed relationships with men, marry those men, stay committed to them til death, and even have kids with these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:46 PM
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Exactly. Guys justify their actions by saying they're only having sex with the hoes, as if hoes are the only type of women who have sex, completely neglecting the fact that women who are also gf and wife material, committed, and loyal etc are also people who enjoy the same sex that they want
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:42 PM
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It's because the madonna-whore complex is within them. They want sex from any and every woman that will do it with them, but they justify it by saying it's only the hoes they are fucking. Then, when they want something real, they think they are deserving of a low n count, or virgin woman- the madonnas, as if they are a different species of women. They just put women into 2 separate boxes, as if women cannot be the fun-loving girl who enjoys sex, and also a loyal, honest, and committed woman, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:34 PM
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Ah the classic "men and women are different". No, humans want sex, regardless of man or woman. You saying men and women are different doesn't even address what OP said about how men are hypocrites. How can yall think u are deserving of sex like it's a basic need, while also requiring that women have low n counts. Like do yall want women to fuck you or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:19 PM
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Is that what yo mamas told u
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:13 PM
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30s is the age when women can take the father AND son
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:13 PM
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What's the point of dating men, when many don't even like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:01 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:00 PM
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Their values aren't tanked. They date because they actually like men and want to have a loving and commitmented relationship with them. Do you not realize that one day all 20-somethings (who dont die) eventually make it to 30. So what are yall gonna do, think that your own wife or gf is less valuable, and dump her for someone younger? Pulling a Leo DiCaprio 😅 Let's be real- men of all ages love to claim that women in their 20s are the most desirable for dating, sex and settling down with, howeve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:55 PM
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Because it's sex. Everyone fantasizes about having sex with hot ppl. Men do the same, it's just that yall are more open to having sex with anyone and everyone, but most definitely the hot girls What you are speaking on is relationships. 1. If men already struggle to get dates, then how are many going to have the pick of the litter of hot women over, mid women? 2. The fact you make this strictly about looks shows you probably have no experience with dating women and probably having sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:37 PM
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There aren't enought hot women to go around. And just because she has the looks, doesn't mean she is gf or wife material. However, hot women are the ones you should consider for serious dating and investment, while mid-level women are better suited for casual relationships or friends with benefits. So then is this okay for women to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:18 PM
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None of what you're saying actually holds up irl or is actually observed. Hotter women are naturally less likely to become alpha-widowed because they attract high-value men more easily and are often in control of their choices. You're literally a man attempting to speak on behalf of women. This is a fantasy, what you want to believe. You're just putting women into boxes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:15 PM
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Yes it does. What women are you paying attention to, to have such a low judgment of all modern western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:36 PM
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Nah. The whole Alpha fucks, beta bucks thing is completely made up, misogynistic and doesn't hold up irl. As long as a woman IS a woman, men always going to want her, regardless of her age. Women do not actually think "oh im older, i have less value and need to settle with a man who will accept me" This whole idea is also insulting to men because it basically tells men if you arnet a Chad, then you only deserve ran thru women who are ready to settle down, even if you are loyal, a hard worker and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:31 PM
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Now women occupy the same roles and are even outpacing men in education they still expect the man to take on the same role, while also splitting domestic chores 50/50. It’s complete nonsense. It's not nonsense. What you described is an equal relationship where both people are working, so obvi the woman is contributing financially to the household, therefore it only makes sense that the housechores are both of their responsibilities. I didn’t pay it would make a difference in how she saw me. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:53 PM
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Right on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:06 PM
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Its pretty self explanatory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:06 PM
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Yea u need therapy. Wouldnt be surprised if u have mommy issues. All ur doing is whining about women, but yet go out of your way to surround yourself in their opinions on internet forums. So clearly u want women but don't like that many don't like yall, and for good reason too, why should they when this is how u talk about them. I feel bad for whomever ur dating and married to cause obvi u have contempt for her and don't even fully love her cause ur too focused on women in the dating pool, ouch.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:14 AM
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Aren't these women posting pictures of themselves online naked worried their employer or family could see that? Many either do not think this deep, or they just don't care. Several months back there was a teacher who lost her job for having on OF I couldn't imagine going on a date with some man I did not know and didn't care for just to get a free meal. That's stealing. Exactly, I agree. It's misleading. A lot of people out here are insufferable. North American culture is so focused on the indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:48 PM
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USA is odd because here we have a very hypersexualized culture, where ppl wanna be fast, get preggo under 18, then popularize it via MTVs 16 and pregnant. People have sex on the first date, people are impatient to steadily date, its highly common to casually date where they want all the benefits of a companion WITHOUT the comittment and emotional investment. People want to roster date, date transactionally, i.e women only going on dates to score free meals from men, and men only going on dates j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:43 PM
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Some do, some don't. Many ppl who only want sex arent gonna want virgins, this applies to both genders. Have you actually tried to make connections irl? Cause it seems like u all u are doing is letting womens judgements online confirm your bias. Most of these women u do not care about anyway because you've never met them irl. Plus if you don't want to be a virgin at the age you are what are you doing to get out of that? At least the dude on the 40 y.o. virgin was trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:50 PM
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Which just goes to show that regardless of what a woman has done, many have no hangups about a virgin dude Because the narrative guys love to spin on this sub is that inexperienced women want experienced men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:18 PM
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Age is just a number. So if you are telling women you're still a virgin and they reject you, knowing your age then just means it's those types of women who don't want a virgin, but this does not mean no women will overlook that. Many women do not care. I'm only saying this because I know a few, one girl even takes pride in taking guys' virginities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:14 PM
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This is so funny considering the post literally right above yours is a woman sharing that her bf was a 25 y.o virgin when they met 😅 If you are a 25 y.o. virgin i think you are giving yourself a reason for why you think women don't want you, when there's most likely a deeper issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:06 PM
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I do not agree. Personally, I've never been on a date where I had to pay because the men I've been on dates with always asked me out as a treat. Also, why are women demonized for "expecting" their date to pay when many guys are equally choosing to pay? It is his right to choose, and it is her right to accept. That's equality. I do not agree that this method sets a bad tone for a relationship. You are strictly seeing things as equality coming from everything being slit all the time. Relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:59 PM
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I just find it odd how you have so much contempt for the entire female population, but yet are not single. That just doesn't make sense. Plus it's odd that you're even paying attention to the dating pool and what other women are doing as a taken man- its giving "my gf is a placeholder" And yes. Men who are opting out from dating and ppl like you who choose to sit out are doing women a favor. Women out here who are serious about dating deserve guys who are serious about dating, not guys who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:00 AM
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Getting chosen as a bf still does mean the man is admired, valued and desired. Many women honor their companions, however the women you are focusing on are not even true gf material, nor are they emotionally available or mature to even be dating men. You say men are deserving of lust and attention from women because of their emotional, and financial investment, but a man also has to know what is good for him. If he's mostly focused on emotionally unavailable women, but then is upset that he isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:08 AM
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The other person also has a say. They are never held against their own will to do anything they don't want to do. As you said, they are two consenting adults. The situations they get into together are brought upon by their own choices. Regardless if the roles are switched, the person who had "no say" equally made the choice to be in the situation they're in with other person. It's contradictory to say the second person has no say in the choice, but then to say they are a consenting adult. It's c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:16 AM
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Ok bye now You're doing too much No one is going to come here and think what u just said
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:02 PM
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My viewpoint is already broadened. I'm well aware fit bodies are not common in every public domain. That's why I said the body type I'm attracted to is in the groups I choose to be in. Okay you're doing too much. I'm sure if yall posted a pic of the exact body type on a woman you found hot that body type is probably not super common in the general l public either. I'm willing to bet good money it's a skinny, slim, or slim thick woman. So who cares what the norm is. Thats not the point. I still f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:28 PM
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Just because someone is single, and stunning doesn't mean they struggle to get dates. It could be anything. Some reasons include: * a serious relationship is not their goal * they could be playing the field * they prioritize their career * they aren't meeting quality men * trauma/daddy issues/emotional distance from men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:20 PM
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This is utterly sexist. You openly admitted that at the most basic human level, women are not seen as equal with men. You have to be clear about being a woman if you want to maintain the privilege of not being treated like men. This isn't even true because men here openly admit they only come to PPD just to trash women. It's easy to see this everyday as well. So then why are thee guys "treating women like men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:20 PM
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So many haters. I didn't think asking for ladies opinions about a hot dude would motivate so many dudes to add their 2 cents. This is literally the norm when you live a healthy life and are involved in fitness and health communities Lol when I was in the military, it was very common to see guys with bodies like this and even more ripped. Currently at the gyms I go to, and the fitness clubs I'm in I see bodies like this all the time. So yes, this is the norm, for me, so what you're saying really …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:02 PM
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I think you should refrain from speaking on the female experience. You're literally just generalizing and putting ppl into boxes, as if everything you're saying holds up irl. It doesn't. Please stop loading terms. "Single by choice" means exactly that. Everything you're saying shows you do not actually talk with a wide range of women. The reason there is a massive influx of single by choice is cause women today do NOT HAVE to be married or date men in order to live a secure life, another reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:47 PM
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I posted this pic because this is what I think is hot, what any other girl fantasizes about is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:46 AM
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if you haven't seen older women complain about their dating prospects and not being taken serious This isn't limited to age. A lot of dudes don't take women seriously because many just want sex, or they arent emotionally available. Every hetero woman of every age goes thru this, especially in our 20s. Men of all ages find women of all ages attractive. Yes maybe you, and other men just think girls in their 20s and under are the hottest ppl but based on what I've seen in the real world, just being…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:34 AM
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This is a realistic healthy body. I'd fuck him. If his personality is great and we were compatible, he'd be mine He's hot 🔥 as hell 😍 🥵
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:42 AM
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Many men dont either, many ppl dont. It really depends on the person, their genetics and the life they've lived. For instance, black dont crack, and I know many darker skinned folks that who've looked the same for the past 20 years. Same for many Asian people. The thing about being a woman is they are always desirable, no matter what age, nor how fertile they are. That's why the wall is just some made up BS
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:46 AM
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Well, I hope you eventually meet a lovely lady
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:04 AM
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Yesss girl
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:24 AM
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Kids birthed against his will? Oh no, I only believe they should be held responsible for kids they consented to bringing into this world Well contrary to what you believe this isnt how the law works, so what you believe should happen is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:51 PM
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This body type is soo sexy 😍 🫦 Any ladies here who agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:48 PM
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Well considering that abortion is banned now, many women do not have that choice anymore. Which only means the number of ppl having unwanted children will increase. Too many of yall ain't ready to have these types of discussions because most of yall are just trying to pass of the blame to only one gender or the other. Both people chose to have sex, so they are both dumbasses for making having sex then acting flabbergasted that sex lead to a baby. Men and women who end up in these situations are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:42 PM
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Her body her choice, his wallet his choice. Atleast we can agree on that. Not really because he can get taken to court for refusing to be a father, and if he doesn't pay, then he can get his ass thrown in jail. Where was, "his wallet his choice" BEFORE he had sex with a woman . Funny how that only applies when a guy doesn't want to take responsibility for his baby. Just silly, u throwing a damn fit because doesn't u don't want men to be responsible for kids he cheated. Imagine if this is how ur …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:35 PM
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Many do both of these things. Why can't u answer the question? All u are doing is shifting the blame for what a man doesnt want. A clump of cells at conception is the only thing the man is responsible for. Hope this helps It's a baby, not a clump of cells. Which would not exist if it wasn't for his DNA making that baby which will become a kid If men don't wanna be dad's they don't gonna be making them. When u naturally aren't the gender who has children, you just aren't going to have as much of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:07 PM
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But what does this have to do with women being honest about what they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:59 PM
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When ppl fuck you are engaging in the very act to make a kid. So a man isn't forced to be a dad when he chose to make a kid of men dont want to be fathers why don't men get vasectomies? Why are men having sex if they don't wanna be a dad? Why are men having sex with women who have opposing views on parenthood? With banned abortion now in USA
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:52 PM
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Women cannot get pregnant without a man. You basically want women to take fully accountability and full responsibility for parenting their child simply because a man doesn't want to take accountability for his own actions. You don't get to just fuck anyone then expect 0 consequences. Just how men tell women "close your legs" we could equally tell men to: not have sex with women pick women who ARE on the same page as you with parenthood BEFORE you have sex wear a condom get a vasectomy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:23 PM
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Or do not have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:14 PM
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That's not what I'm talking about tho. I'm speaking on how guys will say misogynistic things about women, blame them for why they are single, and in general just think low of the entire female population but then turn around and want to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:12 PM
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So basically some men get upset at womens honesty for what they prefer because of the limited options some men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:10 PM
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Yes exactly! I got downvoted here for saying I like bigger dicks, but any other time, we are accused of lying when they suspect women are hiding what they like. I think they want to know what women like, but then when they actually hear, or see who they prefer, they feel rejected because they don't have those qualities so they throw shade. A man who fits those qualities would not get upset
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:02 PM
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It is. So you're okay with having a gf who is romantically and sexually involved with you, who also thinks low of the entire male population and spreading hate speech
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:27 PM
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For them to live rent free in your heard obvi you don't. Thats odd to express your hate for Americans but yet post a Pic of one who you find physically appealing and sexually appealing. So megan Foxx isn't fat, so then do u think she's a retard since Americans are just fat, retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:20 PM
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Yes, typical uneducated non American assumption about the American ppl 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:19 PM
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Then if online dating is so great and is the solution to previous dystopian dating methods then why are ppl today complaining about how they cannot get matches, and complain that OLD is tacked against them and is broken? Wouldn't this be rejection too, but instead of it being irl it's now online? If anything dating is worse today because online one has to deal with catfishing and ppl misrepresenting themselves with old pictures, and ppl are more entitled AND lazy with their approach. If men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:33 PM
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This isn't a gendered thing. Idk if you've ever seen Quiet on Set, the Nikelodeon documentary where Drake Bell revealed that he had been sexually assaulted at 15, while actively going to Josh Peck's home. Then, later in his adult life, he was charged with child engagement for grooming a 15 y.o girl and having sexual convos with her, essentially repeating the same thing he went thru @ 15. My point in bringing this up is to prove that if a 16 year old is pursuing a 40-something year old man, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:12 AM
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Sad as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:22 AM
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What's crazy that I've noticed is some dudes will be sexually, romantically, and physically attracted to women, but then do not even LIKE them as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:10 AM
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Stats arent required, this is something we can observe. Just look at the dudes of this sub alone, they make it clear they are unhappy with their single lives. Any man who wants a woman in his life has an improved quality of life when they are with a woman they value and want. Married men share a covenant bond with a woman who emotionally supports him. He gets bio children without having to invest any physical labor. He has a long term sex partner and if she assumes trad fem roles, he gets things…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:55 PM
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Okay bye. You're clearly just looking to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:25 PM
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Don't use Twitter, but thanks. Y'all is English of the south, has nothing to do with social media, and has been around well before the internet's inception. Bless your heart. Men aren't dancing monkeys just because some actually like women and want to date them. Ppl like u are just lazy. And I'm willing to bet good money you're in the 18-24 age range
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:06 PM
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No, but they were definitely thick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:01 PM
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Are big booties your thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:20 PM
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I never said this. You're basically complaining that a man actually has to put in effort to woo a girl he likes. Aye, I don't make the rules, I'm just stating how it is. The dating market is competitive for men and if you want to win, you gotta be competitive and show a woman that you are interested and a man of value. If not, she's just gonna choose some other guy who does get this. Men who are successful and WANT to date women dont see having good conversation as shameful and humiliating, as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:13 PM
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That's a risk that's gonna have to be taken. Some women are just not going to be receptive to a man, and that's okay because a man wants someone who wants him. Women who are at least into the guy aren't completely sitting back while the dude carries the weight of the convo. She'll have an interest in engaging, and boucing topics and ideas back and forth. This is how I am, at least, and I know I'm not the only one who is like this. This is why dating irl is better, because you can read the room a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:46 PM
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How were they distopian? Supposedly, those were some of the best decades to date, in our modern times. Ppl had to go outside back then, there were more 3rd places, and ppl were having more sex on average, compared to ppl in their 20s and 30s today. I really don't understand how real-life dating can be more dystopian than online. The ppl you meet online you eventually meet irl to date. So how can dating thru a computer be better? How is it distopian if there are many ppl who enjoyed those dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:27 PM
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Regardless of man or woman, getting off the dating apps is in your best interest. Women select their mates based on physical attraction and emotional connection. Looks alone, are not enough. The emotional aspect of dating is taken out of those apps so it leaves women to choose men based on sexual attraction, which is part of the reason many men on those apps are at a disadvantage. I generally meet guys irl, by going to social places I enjoy. This allows me to take in all of the guy. The place yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:33 AM
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Yes, he does. My great uncle was like this, and his character set a great example for how a gentleman treats a lady he's committed to. He set a high bar for what I desire in a mate. I know my worth, and I would be just as loyal and committed to the man I'm in love with therefore I deserve no less
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:14 AM
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I've met 3 guys who are packing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:56 AM
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I think you misinterpreted my question. My question isn't asking what breast size would look best on a woman. My question is asking individual men to share what cup size they are personally most attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:49 AM
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I have no reason to prove anything to you. It's not my responsibility to copy and paste responses from an irrelevant post just to make you happy that I agreed with a small handful of dudes, because it hurts your feelings that I don't agree with every damn man's response. I don't owe you or anybody anything. If u care so much, you can look that up yourself. I'm not wasting my time to appease an internet rando. I have no reason to discuss anything with you further. Have a good night, or day or wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:45 AM
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Yes women are. Everything you're saying goes against evolutionary biology. Women are not responsible for why many of YOU feel disconnected from society. That is a YOU problem. Women are more selective for good reason. They face higher reproductive costs (i.e pregnancy, childbirth, nurturing) so their mate selection strategy is more stringent and more complex than how men pick. They prioritize traits in men that INCREASE their offsprings survival probability. Studies like (Rhodes 2006) confirm ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:32 AM
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Some do. Some don't. What you're asking comes down to the individual, so we can't speak on behalf of what women in general want because many do not give af while others care. Me personally, I don't really give af, I'm just not into dating anyone shorter than me and I'm 5'2" Regardless of a man's height, I know myself and many women can agree that dudes who have a chip on their shoulder about their height is a turn off. One time, a dude interested in dating me was about 5'6" and was very insecure…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:11 AM
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Then why be here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:01 AM
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Wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:14 AM
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That's good. And yes bananas are ~6in around 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:12 AM
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That's great you appreciate all sizes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:09 AM
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Ok boy bye. You dudes and always complaining about women and accountability. It's funny I never see dudes trying to hold other dudes accountable for anything but love to berate women for not acting the way yall want us to act. Have a good night
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:09 AM
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Good to know. Yay big titties
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:56 AM
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Then, clearly, you did not look hard enough. That post has well over 800 comments, and there are several men who I thank for their responses and see, eye to eye with them. Plus, I never claimed that I'm innocent. I accuse straight men all the time of not liking women. In my previous comment, you responded to, I acknowledge that women and men are guilty of many of the same things. So idk how u took want I said as me avoiding responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:39 AM
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Are masculine women your type?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:21 AM
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I gotcha. Thats horrible people say the to you. Sorry 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:58 AM
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To the dudes- does the size of a woman's rack matter to you? If so what is your ideal cup size? To the ladies- does dick size matter to you? If so, what is your ideal size (length and girth)? I'll start, at least 7 inches, and the girth of a banana
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:51 AM
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Alt f4?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:46 AM
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Straight men do not like women News at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:30 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's justified or not to men. One cannot negotiate attraction so a lot of these women are just picking who they are naturally attracted to. Just like how a lot of men are attracted to lean and slim, or slim thick women who are naturally beautiful and have natural big tits and ass. Anyone could point at any man or woman's standards for who they'd ideally date or fuck and say theyre superficial. Everyone to an extent is superficial, because we are human who just wants what we …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:28 PM
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No shit. But I guess the millions of women who love in every state that it is banned in don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:11 PM
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Okay date men then sense none of you guys are solipstic and so wonderful and amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:09 PM
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Yea you obviously aren't understanding what I'm saying. There's no point in discussing this with you further. Have a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:08 PM
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It's banned now in 13 states. And abortion does not solely exist as an elective procedure to terminate a pregnancy due to an absent or low quality father
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:57 PM
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And this is exactly why dating and mate selection works in womens favor. Women are meant to pick their mates. Men have lower standards and are willing to date nearly woman, whereas women only want the highest quality of the bunch. Mate selection is not really meant to be balanced the way a lot of men want it to be
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:52 PM
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The way dating is now is how it was always supposed to be. The patterns we see in humans with mate selection, is seen in nearly every animal kingdom. Females are meant to pick their mates, usually the most attractive, the most resourceful, and best providers are always picked. The trad times you're referring to where all a man needed was a job and money to get a wife, is how men messed up natural mate selection. They made it so more wives were guaranteed for more men. Many if these dudes were no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:49 PM
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Most of what you're saying goes against the biology of natural human mate selection. Women are not meant to be attracted to wide range of guys, similar to how men are attracted to a wide range of women. They are really only meant to reproduce with guys who have genetics worth passing down and not only that but they have to show qualities of being a stable companion, and a secure father, if they choose to become parents. Many men do not possess these qualities, nor have genetics worth passing dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:35 PM
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Interesting 🤔 Good to know 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:23 PM
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Complaining? Asking a question is not a complaint. The only thing me and the other girl agreed on is dudes are focused on the hot women. You say you're into girls of all shapes and sizes but women of all shapes and sizes can still be hot. So I'm willing to bet good money, that even though u say you are into girls of all shapes and sizes, the girls you complain about being invisible to are still some variation, of beautiful or hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:21 PM
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Many guys do not understand womens emotions. Many do not even understand their own feelings so how can they understand a woman's? Just because you've dated a small handful of womne does not mean you know how they are. All that means is you know what the ones you've dated are like. The people we date are reflections of ourselves. You claim you ex was soplistic, meanwhile what does that say about YOU? You either knew she was like that before dating her, or you over looked that quality about her, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:14 PM
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I've never said otherwise that this can't happen at any age. Arranged marriage goes against natural human mate selection. Females in nearly every animal kingdom do the picking of their mates since they bare pregnancy, and passing on of genetics, humans are no different. Arranged marriage is not even that much different than the trad idea of marriage- men have all the $$ the a woman having to marry a man if she want financial security. It just gives the man the most control while the woman's free…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:06 PM
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Just for sex? Or for actual real deep love and companionship? Like Rosemary from Shallow Hal, type of woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:51 PM
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<image> So this woman as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:50 PM
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I probably wouldn't want to date a guy who's shorter than me, and I'm 5'2". Ones who are insecure about their height are also a no-go, even if they are taller than me. I really do not look at men's height when I interact with them, tho. There are many things that turn me on to a guy, so I'm not going to dispose of him simply because he's not super tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:44 PM
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Well none of yall are participating. The fact you don't even try to post a Pic just shows that yall know that many of yall mostly want the hot girls. And it's not rocket science to know that a majority of men want to date and have sex with the most attractive young women out there. Dudes all the time make it known they pay no mind to fat women, and ugly women, so men aren't throwing tantrums over the less attractive girls. So clearly if they are complaining about women who pay them no mind to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:26 PM
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Lol yes exactly 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:19 PM
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What one guy deems a 6 is not the same as what another man deems a 6. Looks are all subjective because beauty is in the eye of the beholder I don't have time for ppl who just want to challenge what I say. There's no point in discussing this further so have a good day, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:18 PM
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Even ones considered ugly and overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:14 PM
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Good question! Considering that he's actively trying to have a good relationship with his mother and have firm boundaries with others and good companionship with other women, I'm willing to accept his family baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:13 PM
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I don't think this is necessarily true. Based on how guys speak on this subreddit many of them do not actually connect with women in the real world, and it shows. If many of the guys here struggle to get dates, and do not associate with women platonically either, then how do they understand women, when most do not actually connect with any? At least with women who are out here dating and getting experiences men, many of them have explores they can draw from, many guys here cannot relate Many jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:59 PM
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Exactly, I've met many dudes of this subreddit who admit they only come here to trash women. Which is counterproductive to the purpose of this group I think a lot of that comes from their own frustrations with dating and women. Then, conversely, some ladies will see no problem in throwing shade back to them, or have their pre conceived notions about guys, then respond to them based on their biases. I've noticed instead of many of us finding a middle ground in understanding eachother, both sides …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:43 PM
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No they aren't. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:11 PM
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Women can want and have both. Liberty and security aren't mutually exclusive. The situations you described are huge extremes at 2 far different ends of the spectrum. The girl you mention who is fucking the older dude, is a perfect example of liberty, without security. Because although the age of consent is 16 in where she lives, it is evident that she may not have been guided properly by her parents/guardian. Plus who knows, this girl may not even have liberty either. Usualy girls who engage in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:07 PM
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Idk what a 6+ looks like tho because it varies from person to person
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:38 PM
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Dudes upset about women wanting men who are attractive to them and reseptful News at 12
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:25 PM
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Overall pretty good list 👌 I'll add some specifcs: Physically attractive: Handsome, great smile, white teeth, chest hair, lean and fit, or brawny and muscular Sex: Values foreplay and giving oral, likes to have sex at least 2x a day. Open to different positions. Has a big 🍆 at least 7 in and girthy Values women: has a good relationship with his mother, and doesn't subscribe to TRP, the manosphere, MGTOW, and dudes podcasts, like Whatever podcast Loyalty: 100% loyal and only has eyes for me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:21 PM
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Straight men do not like women News at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:07 PM
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Maybe because you generalize too much and haven't learned that we are all not hiveminded and actually have preferences that vary from woman to woman 🤯🤯🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:38 PM
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Exactly. I had a feeling that they are referring to super hot women 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:16 PM
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Thank you so much That deep red sounds 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:12 PM
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Lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:08 PM
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Honestly, I've entertained both ideas when it comes to dating men. I'll explain what I mean. I'm 28 and into dudes who are between 27 and 34. I'll meet guys in theirs 30s, and in the early talking stage I will think nothing of their age nor question why they're "still single" then after getting to know them, they'll do some weird 💩 and show some serious 🚩 then we'll go our separate ways. Then I'll tell myself "now I know why he's 31 and still single" So, even tho I prefer guys in their 30s I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:19 AM
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Shut the fuck up Those people just don't know you're a 2 faced asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:03 AM
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Right. I agree he is the funniest 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:02 AM
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Many do. So to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:13 AM
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The whole thing. You asked me a question but kow you're challenging my response. Like I don't even understand why you're saying to me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:55 AM
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Please shut up. Always one of yall trying to pull the woe is me card. It doesn't matter the gender, it's not okay for anyone to devalue anybody. I'm a firm believer of you get what you give, so please don't come at with that bullshit that women are deserving everything magical and wonderful regardless of how they treat anyone. That's obvi what you believe because never did I say what you are complaining about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:51 AM
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😍😍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:40 AM
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I'm torn between Rob and Charlie. They are both the whole package to me because Rob is hot 🔥 🥵 laid back, and funny while Charlie is cute, with a good sense of humor as well, just hearing him talk makes me laugh cause his voice is funny, and you'd never be bored with him
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:39 AM
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I'm really curious- the guys of this sub are always talking about how they are upset that women they are attracted to are not attracted to them, and claim that they are drowning in dick and get free dinners, drinks etc from other men. So out of curiosity can yall post a Pic of the types of women you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:23 AM
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You made a lot of assumptions. What I talking abojt is, there are many guys here who have no idea how to attract women. We try to tell them how and they just deny, deny, deny. For instance, guys seem to be get turned on to women mostly based on what they see. A woman looking attractive to him is enough to make him want to approach her, want to chat her up and want to have sex. They'll want to move fast then not understand why it didn't work So many guys think that women's brains function the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:18 AM
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Come again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:48 AM
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A lot of men already don't like women and they are not successful with them. Many men of this subreddit show us this every day. They're sexually, physically and romantically attracted to women, but show that they think low of women and do not even like them Plus the last thing some men of this sub will do is actually listen to a woman. We can tell them exactly what women like in order to attract them and they swear what we say is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:30 AM
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Intuition - In some situations, one can feel that something is off with a person, or that the connection between them and the other person doesn't feel right. Social cues - people who are social and have a lot of experience reading body language are able to read into people's intentions. There are always telltale signs that can give one insight on a person's true character and intentions. People who are good at reading others can pick up on the signs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:21 AM
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Bait and switch
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:57 AM
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Ok thank you. Have a good day as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:17 PM
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Thanks 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:00 PM
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That's your experience with those women tho Some women get off on having men who've been with many women, and others don't. So to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:45 PM
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This is my hair as we speak, and many people love it, dudes especially. I get compliments everytime I step outside. I do live in a large liberal Metropolitan area tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:41 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:40 PM
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This logic makes no sense. Notice if ppl like Leo DiCaprio didn't have the fame and the riches they wouldn't be able to pull the women that they have. He had to work basically his whole life to even have the status he does. Meanwhile The girls he's getting were literally born after the year 2000, and didn't have to do anything to even pull him, she just had to exist as a woman. Plus, this whole talk about a woman's high value capping off at being a super model is not even real. A lot of models a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:42 PM
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Not possible. It's obvi that a man who's been with that many ppl has 0 sexual discipline. What you said is similar to when people think they find their true love thru kissing strangers or sleeping their way into finding their "perfect match"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:14 PM
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It doesn't matter if you're online or attempting to get dates irl. The fact guys devalue women by calling them names, like heffer, is exactly why a lot of men struggle with women. A lot of men actually need to LIKE women if they want them. It's not enough to be sexually, and physically attracted to them. You're entitled for thinking the way you do about women then having the audacity to be upset that hot women don't want to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:06 PM
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First of all, I do not like how a man's romantic gestures are devalued as simping. It implies that women deserve lesser treatment, and the man is only doing romantic things for transaction. To answer your Q- That is a man not worth dating because he's not emotionally ready to accept the greatness that is currently in his life. Him comparing me, and our relationship to the girls he's been with prior to me, then limiting how he treats me because of them is a 🚩 What one man won't do, another man wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:57 PM
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Enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:58 PM
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Ofc a red pilled man is saying this. Your logic is more of a blue pilled belief So men like to fuck women, but then will have the ick for a woman who does the same? But yet a woman whos been touched by no one wants a man who's touched many women? Gtfoh. Just perpetuating lame ass double standards that don't even hold up irl. You either have not lived long enough or you aren't observing the real world. I'm willing to bet good money, that you're probably in the 18-24 age range. I used to work at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:50 PM
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Ok so basically you watch OF and help those girls make bank?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:16 PM
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All I'm saying is that when you say exclusive, I took that as no one else has been with a woman because exclusive means "not shared by others" but I did not realize you meant not shared by others at 1 time i.e entertaing other guys while dating 1
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:02 PM
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Idk 🤷🏾‍♀️ I don't think about it in terms of numbers. I care about a man's sexual discipline, more than the number. A man who had sex with 5 women he had deep feelings for and was committed to is different from a man whose had sex with 5 women just because he wanted to get his dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:57 PM
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I think you should refrain from speaking for all men, I personally know some promiscuous women who've been with well over 30 guys and I know a few women in sex work and all of these people have husbands. And get this most of them met their husbands doing the same thing, so their husbands are just as promiscuous and/or in sex work too. This lame narrative that men don't like hoes is old and doesnt hold up irl. Women become hoes because of the number of men who want to fuck them. So not only do so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:30 PM
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Casual sex is simply having sex while single. The number of times someone has done It is not necessarily a measure of "how many times they failed at building a LTR". But regardless of a man's sociosexual orientation, many guys seem to have an undying obsession to want low n count and low sex experience women. Lots of promiscuous men and men with no sex experience admit to how they want a virgin or low n count woman, and many will engage in slut shaming too thinking that'll compel women to keep n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:49 PM
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Good point 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:35 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:59 AM
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How would you know this. When I was in college living in the dorms tons of 18 and 19 year old dudes were fucking women on the regular. And this is very common at college campuses
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:37 AM
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Then who are hetero women having sex with during their hoe phase if "men are not able to go through that journey"? I think what you say in the last paragraph is why a lot of men are not successful. You have all this buildup that men having a hoe phase will improve the way they see women and the relationships with them, just to end it all with young women have astronomically high standards, and that it's just over for men- that's defeatist. Idk but to have this assumption means that maybe the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:26 AM
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Nowadays, girls could have been with 5 guys, and dudes will call her a 304 Ppl are too soft today (Edit: ppl downvoting because they know they're guilty of what I said)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:30 AM
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That's literally not even true. People who have casual sex are simply having sex while single. Thats all it is. Using what someone does while single as a prediction for what they'll do in the future while taken is silly. A majority of relationships start out thru casual sex and hookups. And a lot of people are in serious relationships and marriages and kids with those they started out causally fucking. Your logic is like thinking a woman will assume her bf will cheat on her, simply because when …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:51 AM
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Well a majority of women out here aren't kiss less, and never touched virgins. So there's a guarantee that the women a majority of yall get with have already kissed a man before, have already been felt up, and have already done something sexual with a man etc. As much as men pursue women for sex and dating it's highly uncommon to meet a woman who has done none of those things as an adult. (Edit: people downvoting because I spoke a fact of life 🗣🔥)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:38 AM
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I don't see how that is cope considering that a majority of relationships start out thru casual sex. Men and women who date typcially have similar dating lifestyles. Men who are promiscuous tend to have gfs and wives who are just as promiscuous. People who don't have as much sex typically meet their companions doing non promiscuous things If a man is coaching a woman with little to no experience that implies he wants a low n count woman meanwhile he's been around probably gaining sexual experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:30 AM
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Until they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:09 AM
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This is just funny to me. Yall are trying so hard to say in every way possible that men just have it soo much harder than women, yet the topic of discussion is dating. Which is elective If a man's biggest complaint is that dating is harder for him compared to women then that just shows have privledged men and woman are in the 1st world countries they live in. One should be so lucky that the biggest issue they have is finding a girl to date or fuck successfully
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:03 AM
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Because they choose to. Now let's look at how many of those men footed the bill because they paid thinking it'll get them laid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:51 AM
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Because a man attempting to say anything that is easy for a woman is dumb. Why should I listen to yall when you don't know the life of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:49 AM
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How is a woman's life easy if she has no legs compared to men who can walk How is a woman's life easy if she has cancer compared to a man who doesn't What about a woman who's blind How is a homeless woman living on easy mode compared to an upper middle class man living in a mansion, with maid and butler service How is a woman who nearly dies from child birth easy compared to a man who's only had to cum in a woman to become a father. How are women living in 3rd would countries living easier than …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:43 AM
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Who is personally telling you, that you have to settle and that you cannot be shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:37 AM
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This post is still blowing up with comments that I'm responding to. At the end of the day, you're gonna believe what you want to and I don't have time to hold ur hand and sift through comments just to appease you personally. If you care enough to, you'll look yourself. So bye
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:34 AM
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Sports? You've gotta be shittin me. Men in the NBA easily make a lot more bank than women in the WNBA, if anything the NBA is so wealthy, they help fund the WNBA. And this goes for golf, soccer and tennis, all pro male athletes make significantly more than women in the same sport, who perform at the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:31 AM
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If a white man and a black woman commit the same crime, I'm sure the man will have a shorter prison sentence. The women are wonderful effect only exists because men pedestalize women. Plus all of these other things you mention are all supported by patriachal law and other men just perpetaute these things. It is men who decided that women are the primary caregivers. Men since the beginning of time typcially leave the childrearing, and caring for children primarily to the mother because "its a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:26 AM
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Yess 💯 exactly I love that you brought this up. We literally live in the age of the most single people, where more women are opting in to living solo, over having their lives "made easy by a guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:12 AM
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Men and women have dating struggles that are unique to our genders. You act like women don't go thru the same BS. We too have to deal with guys who are shitty ppl (that's just a part of the dating experience) and dudes who catfish us or misrepresent themselves by putting up a pic from like 2 years ago, then they walk in and are 50lbs heavier. That's why it's best to get off the apps and stop making oneself a victim of dating You seem to think that just because more dudes are into us that it's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:08 AM
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Okay 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:57 AM
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Yes and if all of those options said yes, men would also have no problem indulging in as much sex and dating opportunities they can get from those women. Thats the point I'm making, yall expand your net wider because yall are attracted to more women that you see on the daily (quantity) Whereas a woman can be on the receiving end of many offers from dudes and not be attracted to any, or just entertain a small minority because they are generally attracted to lower ranges of men, and have to sift t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:55 AM
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Congrats yall are assaulted. Both genders are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:51 AM
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Then why even bother if ur gonna assume the worst? Why would I make anything up. I have no reason to Maybe just don't be lazy and actually look for what YOU are wanting. I'm not ur mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:48 AM
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So if how does a woman with cancer, or a woman who is blind live easier than a man who does not experience cancer or complete blindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:43 AM
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You can do that on your own. There are tons of dudes here claiming that's its easier to get a job, graduate from college, date, and just generally putting much less effort into anything in life tonhave the same things as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:41 AM
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Never said women are the prize, you did. I'm not saying that men get a lot of quantity or quality. All I said is typically when it comes to dating, sex and mate selection, men generally go for as many women as possible because a wide range of women is generally attractive to them. Where is the lie or sexism in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:36 AM
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How? Typcially it's women who are stalked, raped, murdered and victims for pedophilia more than boys and men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:31 AM
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Exactly 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:30 AM
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I've lived there for over half of my life and have my own home by the beach there, and constantly go back, so your claim is dumb. I do not live there now because my job requires that I constantly travel and live where I work dumb@ss. But I always go back to my home
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:28 AM
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Only a small minority actually makes bank tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:25 AM
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I've lived many places tf, including Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:15 AM
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Literally what every man is doing here is speaking on behalf of womens lives as if they know what it's like to live as one, please. Never did I say anything that even remotely indicates I'm "pretending" to know what it's like being a man. A majority of the comment you're responding to is me describing a woman's perspective of dating. The only thing I said is that men generally value quantity over quality in terms of dating. This is a fact and something that men of this sub reaffirm all the time.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:14 AM
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Wow that's horrible to say that Africa's a shit hole. You're not really worth speaking to at this point. Bye ✌️🖕
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:06 AM
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I think if a man is doing all the heavy lifting for 4 long months those women are truly not into the man. There are so many women who treat the dude to 2nd date after he paid for the first and women just as egard to text and call the guy their into, during the talking stage as well as bounce ideas off of eachother for date ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:04 AM
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Lol good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:01 AM
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It has nothing to finances. Its more about the fact they are less priotized when it comes to giving black people quality care. Dr's don't even give black people opioids for pain, just white people. I'm speaking on USA mostly. There are tons of studies that prove women receive worse healthcare than men. I only know all of this because we studied Healthcare ethics in med school. You saying "pretty sure" is just you going off of your own biased judgments. The fact we've had several women die due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:41 AM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:33 AM
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I guess I'm confused because in the very last paragraph you say you think womens lives are generally easier than men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:31 AM
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Oh but i thought it was bros before hoes. What u said is an excuse for why men don't support eachother. If yall wanted to yall would, regardless of what women think or do. Why put pussy on a pedestal like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:14 AM
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Last time I checked men aren't birth womens babies tho. So how does a man make that easy! All he did was cum in her. He doesn't breast feed either. How does he make that easy The only women making millions are hot white women who are half naked and making men's dicks hard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:10 AM
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Definitely not in Healthcare. Black women are the most neglected demographic in Healthcare, then it's black men. No surprise. And back when I was briefly in med school, a lot of medical practices are based on what is studied on men's bodies. They don't study womens bodies enough. Why don't men support eachother more when it comes to emotional suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:08 AM
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Ok and why do you think men are so low compared to women. Who is perpetuating these standards
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:04 AM
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Either way how is a woman's life easy just because a man is a breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:01 AM
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It's illegal for colleges and companies to discriminate based on race and gender when it comes to hiring and admitting applicants. Maybe some men should just accept that women do somethings better than men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:01 AM
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That's the thing tho is those 10 good options that you think are wonderful usually aren't. A majority of the dudes that come at us are trying to "smash" so that eliminates many. And also there is a weird phenomenon happening where even tho a lot of men are sexually and romantically into us, many do not actually like women, just look at his sub. So when we start talking to him and learn he thinks low of women, then he's gone. Then factor in that you have to look at who is compatible with you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:57 PM
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No it didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:41 PM
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You cannot speak for women in that way. A lot of dudes are terrible lays, and just use women's bodies as human flesh lights so try again. Women's lives aren't easy just because they have sex with men. Tf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:40 PM
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Youre only coming for Africa like that because Im sure the first thing that comes to your mind are the impoverished nations. And if you're in USA, there is crazy amount of poverty and homelessness here too... in a rich nation 🧐 And it's funny you mention Africa because I am an African-American woman, of Nigerian descent so hell yea I'd go. It's lit in Africa Everyone's lives are hard in some way regardless of where you live. But this is exactly what I mean, when dudes say that women live life on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:38 PM
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Yes exactly. That is exactly who I think they picture when women have it easy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:20 PM
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Lol yess exactly 💯 🤣 You can say that again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:17 PM
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Ok so where's my $50?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:16 PM
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Funny that you mention homeless ppl because I live near Seattle WA and we see all kinds of homeless women and men, as well as drug addicts and panhandlers on the street. Seattle has one of the worst homeless situations in all of USA, next to NY and LA. The town I live has it pretty bad, but nothing like Seattle. Also let's not forget that homeless women who ARE taken in by men who want to help them are often times subject to sexual assault. Some easy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:15 PM
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This is everything men perpetuate tho. A woman's life isn't easy just because women recieve more attention than men Everyone is born with inherent value. How are men not. This is like saying ppl give no fux about baby boys compared to baby girls Trump is a politician, no one of his campaigns are about helping women, just the rich. The jail thing is not either. Actually watch the news they report women are thrown in jail all the time for physically assaulting their bfs and husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:09 PM
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I don't agree that having 1000 options is better than 10. Women generally have higher standards because they want a smaller pool of options, in terms of dating they only want 1 man. Having more options comes with more work because we have to sift thru those options to find the quality men who are most compatible with us. Usually, a majority of our options are just sex, and one only needs sex with 1 person I think guys think more options is better than less because men value quantity over quality…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:02 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:53 PM
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According to men, women hit the wall, so how is her life easy when the things men think are easy for women is supposedly limited or gone in older age?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:52 PM
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Everything you said is dependent upon men tho. A woman's life isn't easy because men are sexually and romantically attracted to women, and treat them like status symbols So if a woman has cancer or is blind or has serious mental issues like severe anxiety and depression how is her life easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:50 PM
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This makes sense. I can understand that. I just find it annoying when ppl make it seem like womens lives are easy in every aspect of life from birth til death
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:43 PM
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And these are things men are allowing women to have access to. So why don't men make other mens lives so easy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:37 PM
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Well I can't remember either, and I'm a woman so my woman card must be broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:36 PM
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Not every woman is on OF
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:35 PM
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So then theire lives are easy because of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:34 PM
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A woman's life is not on easy mode just because of applying for a damn job. Why do you assume their lives are easy, what if they are more qualified Whats next are you gonna say that female college grads live life on easy mode too simply because more of them graduate at a higher rate than men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:30 PM
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Women get diseases and illnesses, they deal with death of loved ones, they endure bullies and hate, they feel pain, they have problems they have to deal with. They endure abuse, many have mothers and fathers who abuse them, abandon them emotionally and or physically. They are lied to, cheated on etc. Their lives simply aren't easy because you think every one has a shoulder to cry on, and men expecting less from them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:28 PM
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Then why don't men support eachother then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:25 PM
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Women's lives are soo much more than dating tho. Their lives aren't easy just because tons of guys want to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:24 PM
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How would it be worse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:23 PM
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The specifics of her life should be irrelevant to you. If women live life on easy mode, no matter what life circumstances she's has, her life is easy, according to your logic But because I'm sure all you are going to do is just go down the list of everything she says and just deem it easy compared to a man's life, because you are biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:22 PM
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It's silly that a man attempts to speak on behalf of what's easy for a woman so if a woman has an incurable disease, like Parkinson's, or is completely blind, how does picking the right man, allow her to live the life where she is free of that disease or has the ability to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:18 PM
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Women's lives are complex and go deeper than depending on a man. Men are not magical creatures who make womens wonderful, amazing and easy Women all the time have to deal with death or loved ones, getting diseases and illnesses, having family that disowned them, mothers and/or fathers who physically and/or emotionally abandon them. Bullies, hate, losing their jobs, working hard for something just to not get the expected outcome. So I think it's annoying when guys think women live easy solely bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:09 PM
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Everyone that has been responding is simply saying womens lives are easier because of a man. Men all the time say that they do not care about a woman's income, her education level or her career endeavors, and that they'd happily date a waitress or a batista. But now they are getting berated and saying they live easy simply because some men choose to accept a woman who doesn't have to work. Just because a man is paying bills in the house doesn't mean a woman lives life easy. And generally when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:05 PM
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All this says is that men are typically the breadwinners in their households, meanwhile black women are more often in egalitarian relationships or are breadwinner in their relationships. How does this support that a woman's life is easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:58 PM
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Women's lives aren't easy simply because 50+ guys want to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:54 PM
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That's really not true. Men want many women to entertain them but at the same time women recieve a lot of scrutiny. Single mothers are judged as bottom of the barrel and labeled as women who cannot pick men When they have lower standards and shitty bfs it's "pick better" but.. When they have higher standards it's "enjoy dying alone" They are judged just for having sex They are judged for n count Whereas men are not stigmatized for any of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:51 PM
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But it's not a daily occurance for women to get into fights tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:40 PM
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In what ways is a woman's life easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:37 PM
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I spoke nothing but facts 🗣🔥 They really do not value education in the south, as much as they do up north and in liberal states. Sports are bigger in the south Facts cannot be hate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:09 PM
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We? What are you doing to help? Are you in the Army? Air force, marine corps?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:08 PM
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What truely is in their best interest in voting for Trump? A majority of MAGA supporters literally said they voted for him because of the cheap gas prices and groceries, then just recently Trump affirmed NONE of that is coming. So many Latino ppl who are naturalized citizens voted for mass deportation. So if project 25 actually takes, they are getting sent straight back to Mexico 🇲🇽 how is that in their best interest, when they want to live here? Plus let's not act like liberals were the only pp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:06 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:44 PM
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Thank you. It's an honor to be seen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:44 PM
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No. I don't give af about men, because it wasn't just them who elected Trump. Instead, I don't think highly of a majority of Americans. I overall look at this as a fail for the whole country, as it shows that ignorance and a lack of education won 🏆 I 28F have grown slowly tired of living in USA since 2020, because it doesnt matter how far we progress. This country always lives up to it's racist and sexist roots. And when you're a black woman, living in America, that's a double whammy, so there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:09 PM
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I only asked about masculinity because the dude I was responding to said a woman with an active sex life is emasculating to him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:03 AM
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Why does a man's masculinity depend on a woman's sex life tho. That just means he has fragile masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:21 AM
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This may be hard for you to understand, so sit down. Look son, if women are out here having sex with men, it's because men are just as promiscuous. So it's quite hypocritical to think that men aren't taking women seriously for something they are happily engaging in with women I don't think you realize, but a majority of relationships start out thru casual sex, and hookups 🤯 Modest women with sexual discipline aren't out having sex as much so they tend to meet and pair up with men, with the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:03 AM
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She basic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:19 AM
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This goes both ways, let a woman be over 30, or overweight and men take it personal The fact we have dudes fat shaming and calling women expired who are 30+ is proof
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:17 AM
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The thing is, women wear all those things and are complete head turners to men. So the fact that it works is why many keep doing it. A majority of strippers, OF models, and IG baddies do all of these things and make bank compared to modest women in respectable jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:15 AM
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"Go outside more please" is a shitty assumption. Clearly u are the one who lives online by assuming u known the life of any random person online. Just straight up projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:18 PM
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No that's not it at all. The context of the quote "you can change your weight but we cant change our height" was in response to guys taking it hard that certain women want tall men, and that their preferences are not fair because they'd date or have sex with a woman on the condition that she is smaller meanwhile they think it's unfair that she's judging a man based on a quality he cannot control All u did was just flip that narrative, when the point of my post is focusing on how men chose to wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:15 PM
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Obvi in general. Being more bold with any woman a guy fancies and shows romantic interest in will have greater success than finding his feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:06 PM
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Yup because a man personally does not care about any random womens health. A man is personally offended because that's one less woman who does not appeal to the male gaze Because notice how you don't care about any overweight or obese men. Your focus is clearly the women. The ppl you are sexually and romantically attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:52 PM
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Yes and look at how many men are enraged by that advice, that's the point I was making
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:45 PM
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You are throwing a tantrum. You just got done saying that yall don't like overweight women because it's less fuckable options to you, but now you're saying that you think you are helping women by telling them that losing weight = a boyfriend. Women are not missing out by not dating or fucking men who simply don't like her cause she's not skinny. Thays absurd. We already see that men have preferences for all types of women. So miss me with that BS. You just keep changing the narrative of what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:43 PM
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Men already do tell women what they have to change. So idk what you mean by "why cant we" A lot of men truly believe them fat shaming women is doing a service to society because they think they are encouraging women to be healthy and more attractive to men So consideing men fat shame, and tell women "you can change your weight" how has that worked out for yall personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:38 PM
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You're welcome. Bye ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:31 PM
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My point is many of yall are entirely selfish and greedy If women said, "oh there's not enough rich men. Yall can change your income. If you want us to date you, and fuck you starting working harder and longer because finding a good man who makes good money is hard. Yall would be mad as hell What makes dating harder for some men is their attitude and entitlement. You want women to look skinny just so more of you feel inclined to date and fuck them, meanwhile what are you offering 🫴 so that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:10 PM
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It doesn't matter what is controllable or not. The point of my post is that men have their preferences, so women can have theirs too. The only thing that is bad is when ppl are dicks about their preferences. Like we get it, if some women like tall dudes, and some men like skinny women, that's great, but taking it a step further by saying "no fat chixx" or "short men arent masculine (or whatever it is some women say)" and "you can control your weight" is just throwing a tantrum because some ppl d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:01 PM
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But fat shaming women so that there are more women who physically appeal to a man's gaze isn't the way to go about improving a man's numbers. What you said is completely based on a scarcity mindset. I think men collectively know a majority of them desire smaller women, but there isn't enough to go around so that scares some dudes because they know other more attractive men will swoop in and either take her off the dating market or collectively raise those women's n counts That or they want to fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:37 PM
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Yes. Exactly I love this idea
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:30 PM
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Doesnt matter what is controllable, women can still have their preferences. Just focus on the skinny and fit ppl then, I don't see why men take it personal seeing an overweight woman. It's like they get butthurt that a woman dares to not appeal to a man's gaze. If her lifestyle isn't compatible with yours then why do overweight ppl live rent free in mens heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:25 PM
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Yes 💯 🙂🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:21 PM
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For age, there's been studies conducted and shown that men of all ages typically find women in their 20s most attractive and this is the demographic most attempt to date, whereas women are generally attracted to age appropriate men. Yea there are men who go for older women, but it's generally seen, men typcially most prefer younger ones. Cause it's not women who calling older men expired Single mothers are the butt of jokes, so yea maybe some men prefer them, but a lot of men do not and make fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:21 PM
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What about my statements are in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:10 PM
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So basically guys like sizes that are double Ds and greater, since that's where the non passing grades start, which would be similar to how a lot of women like men who are 6' and up ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:10 PM
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Aww boo hoo less women who appeal to your gaze
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:04 PM
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Exactly. People can be predisposed to weight gain based on family history Guys judge a woman's weight, as if it's something they can easily change, when really it is a more complex issue. When they judge her weight, they are also judging her lifestyle choices, and her life circumstances etc. When a woman doesn't want a tall man it just means his genetics are not preferred by her, but a man saying a woman can change her weight is basically saying she has to change major parts of her life just for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:01 PM
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No, but men all the time show us the women they most prefer are slim, or slim thick, big tits and ass, young, and feminine. Just as women show they most prefer somewhat taller men, physically attractive and somewhat fit and healthy Men and women both have preferences that heavily exclude. And nothings wrong with that, but the issue I'm speaking on is when men embrace having their preferences but then when women have theirs, now its unfair and the standards are unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:55 PM
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That's where you're wrong. As a hetero woman who's physically, romantically, and sexually attracted to men, I actually genuinely like men, as well, and do not think any gender is better nor above the other. I just have my qualms about men who perpetuate double standards and don't mind calling ppl out of their BS It seems that a lot of hetero men are sexually and romantically attracted to women while simultaneously not liking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:51 PM
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Not necessarily. Because I have both, and I'm 28 years old and constantly meeting adult men, my age AND older, who have no problem mentioning they like what they see on me, and go as far as asking for pics 🥴 And this isn't just a personal thing either because back when I used to be on those horrid dating apps, many dudes would state in their bios how they want women with Tig ol' bitties. If what you say said was true, there'd only be dudes 15 and under on porn sites. So what are all these older …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:25 PM
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Yes that is your experience. That does not apply to all taller women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:08 PM
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Literally this sub alone is filled with endless screed about how womens standards are unrealistic, and unfair because it excludes a great number of men from having any change of sleeping or dating the hot women they believe should have lower standards. We already know you prefer what you want, womens beauty standards alone have been defined by what men want to see. The issue I'm speaking on is how men want to have their preferences but get mad when women have theirs too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:05 PM
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Right. So if it's a choice to be overweight, abd men are not attracted to overweight women, I don't understand why pay mind to those women if they have a lifestyle and body type you don't agree with when it comes to dating and mate selection. And saying that just because I'm American I don't know any better, is weird as hell. Yup I guess we're all just stupid Americans who dont know anything abojt whats going on in the country we live in. Plus assuming that I was born and bred in America, is wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:03 PM
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Either way. They are both still obese, regardless of whom is more or less
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:54 PM
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Women abd men are alike in this way. Although men have deal breakers for women they would seriously date or marry, like skinny, big tits and ass, and hot if that's what they like, when it comes to sex, or just having a gf for the sake of having one they'll go to a 5, because even tho she doesn't fit his deal breakers for anything real, the fact that she's a woman with a vagina means she fits his lower preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:50 PM
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If you think women valuing a man for his height is shallow, a man valuing a woman for a woman's weight is equally shallow. So the issue I'm talking about is men have no problem having their preferences, but think it's unfair when women have theirs. If you don't want to fuck, date or marry a woman bevause she's not skinny, why is it a problem when a woman doesn't want want to date, fuck nor marry a man who's not tall? Why are men focusing on women who have preferences they DON'T fit, opposed to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:46 PM
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Because there's a lot of responses im reading and making my way to tf. I just got to this response. So hold your horses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:31 PM
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So if you can't quote me on what you're complaining about then there is no issue
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:29 PM
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The day I meet a hetero man who actually likes women is the day pigs fly 🐖 🪽
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:28 PM
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Yes 💯 I definitely feel that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:27 PM
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By and large you don't know what each individual wants tho. Your strictly sticking to stereotypes and general ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:24 PM
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There are a lot of standards women are held to: Age- according to many 30+ is expired Childless- men claim that single mothers are bottom of the barrel and only recreational use only Low n count- if they want to be taken seriously for dating n marriage they gotta keep their n count low Big assets- men show us they give most attention to natural big tits and ass Skinny/Lean/Fit- women generally have the most men after them when they are smaller. Men generally fat shame bigger girls Not too tall- …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:23 PM
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Just as there are men who are attracted to flatter chests, there are a lot of women who have no height preferences and date and are married to shorter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:12 PM
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Yes 💯 very interesting take. Although both shallow yes, I do agree that a woman's breast size is more comparable to a man's height Out of curiosity, what cup sizes receive a passing grade?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:08 PM
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Thank you for acknowledging this perspective as to what is meant by some of these mens words
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:04 PM
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Well u don't make the rules. Abd the fact ppl are in relationships and married to ppl by dating this way shows what your saying doesn't apply to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:02 PM
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When men say "you can change your weight, but we cant change our height" this shows that a lot of men are getting butt hurt that many of them are excluded from what a woman is physically attracted to, abd believe that women must lower their standards because it's not fair to value a man based on what he can't change. So what i mean when I say appreciate, is more men think it's fair to be valued abd appreciated based on things women aren't attracted to But that's point of preferences, men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:01 PM
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I've never said that men are supposed to appreciate women for all tgat they are, nor do i ever say women or men should be attracted to all. The topic I'm discussing is how men stand firmly by their prefences, like that many prefer lean, skinny, and fit women, but will judge women for having preferences for taller men. A lot of ppl have specific preferences for what they are sexually and romantically attracted to, and still treat all individuals with dignity and respect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:57 PM
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Not true. A lot of men are morbidly obese as well. The weight issue here isn't a gendered thing, it's more due to the American way of life. Having a plethora of fast food options, then having technology making ordering in via door dash more convenient than cooking, we have a ton of ppl who resort to alcoholism, and the most popular American pastimes are sedentary. Like we are in football season as we speak, so what are a great number of Americans gonna be doing today especially, sitting down on …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:50 PM
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No that's not the point of my post. Why do some many of you have victim mindsets. Where in my post do I even acknowledge body shaming men. I actively acknowledge that BOTH genders have their preferences and can have them. The problem I'm acknowledging is men shaming women's preferences meanwhile they expect women to abide by theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:42 PM
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This is like women telling men a certain percentage in USA are under 6 feet and the world would be a better place if all the average height men got limb lengthening surgery. Where men go wrong is looking at women who they aren't attracted to, like the overweight ones, and making her weight and her life choices and circumstances HIS business because her not being healthy or sexually appealing to him is personally offensive. If men prefer smaller women, why not focus on just that demographic of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:39 PM
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Yes 💯 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:32 PM
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Lol, you're spinning your own narrative here. I never said women can have preferences and be hailed for them, tf, meanwhile I say men should be shamed for theirs. Quote me on where I said any of this. What does the last sentence of my entire post say? "If men can like what they like in women, women can too" I think you have your own personal narrative that men are shamed are shamed for what they like. This sub is full of men shaming womens preferences as too high or unrealistic, but we never see…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:31 PM
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You can't speak on behalf of men, as if they're all hived minded. Not all men think the way you just said. I'm 5'2", don't care about height at all on men and have been on a few dates with men who are around average height 5'6 to 5'8 and they constantly made a big deal that they were "short" and relatively close to my height, which actually lead to the dates not being successful. And I have some tall girl friends, who are like 5'11" and dudes they go on dates with would eliminate themselves, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:27 PM
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Yea I think it's just a fact of life that as social creatures, we generally want to feel accepted and included by all, or as many ppl as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:19 PM
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It's not my personal idea of relationship compatibility, I'm just acknowledging how in a society that is sex positive, this is the way most relationships start. You can stand by what you said, but it's not the reality of what IS actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:10 PM
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So the lesson here is that men like this need to be more bold and actually show romantic interest
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:55 PM
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This isn't necessarily true. Yes maybe some guys lose respect for women, but many don't. If you live in USA, most relationships start out through causal sex. It usually starts out as a hookup until it's no longer one cause both ppl caught feelings, or they liked the sex so much with that person now they want to commit. Having sex with someone, isn't "test driving" because a lot of times ppl aren't going into it thinking "this could one day lead to something more". People aren't cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:36 PM
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Women's issues were only addressed because women chose to band together and earn their rights through protesting. Men's issues definitely matter, but the driving force in them seeing the changes they want to see involves banding together as a unit to fight for what they want, and it seems many don't want to. They'd rather talk about the rights they don't have. A dude on this sub called me a "classic feminist" because I told him that men have to address their problems at a larger scale, similar t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:20 PM
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Right. Dudes say one thing, but do another. Watch what they do over what they say. The fact they give themselves permission to have sex with however they want in young adulthood, then turn around and desire a modest low n woman for marriage shows exactly who they prioritize. It's sad because why would a woman who respects herself marry a man who was once community 🍆
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:06 PM
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Yes! You can actually lose yourself in the pursuit of sex with many people- both men and women! You get caught up in their energies and emotions. I am not promiscuous at all, I've generally considered sex as a scared bond, and had sex for the first time at 26, but ended up having casual sex with some men 😵‍💫 As much as the act itself felt good, I overall did NOT 🙅🏾‍♀️ enjoy it. Not sure if other ppl can, but whatever the dude is feeling, I also felt. I could feel his distance, his indifference, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:57 PM
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Another man who thinks he can tell an internet rando about what they experience on the day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:46 AM
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How would she? You say the dude is shy, gives subtle hints and he made no moves, and even if she did know why would a woman want a dude like that for a bf? The fact she chose someone else obvi means the other dude is more bold
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:45 AM
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Not from what I see in real life. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:42 AM
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It has nothing to do with who im hanging out with. Just look at online dating, ppl generally go there looking for sex, and those sites are also where a majority of ppl are finding their companions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:37 PM
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That's not even true tho. Because a lot of women aren't stay at home wives. They are working just like their husbands, but taking more of the domestic labor, and child rearing, to where it's the men who have more leisure time at home
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:03 PM
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The day I meet a hetero man who actually likes women, is the day pigs fly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:00 PM
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All of these things you claimed has nothing to do with logic tho. And that's a damn lie that men take on just as much of the responsibilities at home as do women. This is a major reason why women intiate divorce more than men, because the men are comfortable in their marriages, while women feel like overworked dogs. Men may do a little more in modern times, but it does not match a woman's effort most of the time, even if she is working full time or part time. Women still are juggling a majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:57 PM
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You're free to quit your job then. No one's forcing you to work. Become sovereign. Thats the only way you'll have no moral responsibility to work a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:41 PM
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In society, we are all assets to the government we live under, so all of us have a moral responsibility to positively contribute to the progression and regulation of society. Men and women are both PEOPLE at the end of the day, so our responsibilities are not that different considering that whatever a man does, he needs a woman for, and vice versa. A woman cannot reproduce unless she has a man's seed. A man performs better at work and is incentized to return when he has a great support system at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:55 PM
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Also, how is women's bodily autonomy and reproductive rights seen as synonymous with a man's labor? One has to do with reproducing, the other has to do with working. Yall should just be grateful that you aren't the gender than has to bear pregnancy, and child birth. So ofc if they bear the child they are just going to have more of a say in what happens to the kid. If men want more freedom in the matter, they can have their own male movement of "my body, my choice" by opting into wearing condoms …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:46 PM
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We already have "my labor, my choice" in effect. A man is free to quit his job and live homeless WITHOUT relying on any government handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:35 PM
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A lot of us do. Many of us don't want community dick. Just because a man gets around doesn't mean he's experienced in the bedroom, and man can fuck 30 women and still never learn how to get one off. Miss me with that BS A man who thinks he can speak on behalf of women as if we're all hiveminded is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:31 PM
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Delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:31 PM
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This is what ppl mean when they say bar is in hell for men. Holding a woman to a higher standard that you don't even hold yourself to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:43 PM
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Lol nothing. If a woman is able to amass so much attention and opportunities from men, that means she is desirable regardless of the number of men she's been with. I think as long as you're a woman, one never runs out of options. Considering that many relationships in modern times start thru casual sex shows that men are out here doing the same as women, and just settling down with their equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:39 PM
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Why should we listen? Give me one solid reason??? Do you listen to everything women say that they want men to do? Women are not fuxking dolls where you can just expect to change them into whatever you want them to be simply because you don't like what you see lr what they do. Men never want to just focus on other women who do the things yall don't like. Instead yall just complain about the ones you want to change. Thats weird as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:55 PM
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Then some of yall must be getting with women who put on excessive amounts of makeup, like Sabrina Carpenter, then acting flabbergasted upon the realization that women don't have natural red lips or bronze skin or rosy cheeks, or a bunch of black shit around their eyes. What I don't understand if you see a woman wearing makeup and it looks like a lot then why entertain her, without being self aware that she's obvi not going to look 100% the same once the make up is off? This just shows how a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:50 PM
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The kind and respectful man shot himself in the foot, in that situation. Just as much as men claim they aren't mind readers, women aren't either. A guy being shy, and thinking his passive behaviors will communicate his interest to her is exactly how a man solidifies himself as a trustworthy friend. She most likely chose the other dude as her bf because she's sexually attracted to him, and he's probably more bold with his approach and showed he takes romantic interest in her. For the nice guy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:36 PM
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A lot of men are walking contradictions. As much as some dudes love to get worked up over women wearing making, meanwhile who are men giving the most attention to? The IG baddies, porn stars, promiscuous women who make themselves over, proactively dressed girls. Men love to turn their heads in the presence of these women over conservatively dressed plain Jane. Many of yall say one thing, but do another. The fact you even say it's hard to find a woman who doesn't wear makeup means that the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:23 PM
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So I say all this, and your only response is to defend weinstein? He must've personally told u all this. Regardless, none of these dudes are innocent. So cry me a river. Your insensitivity is why a lot of women HATE men. Yall ask for the hate that comes to u then wanna act like the boy who cried wolf because ur too soft to deal with your bs being dished right back at you. Funny how yall are hate for thee, but not for me I swear man, too many dudes on this sub are just immature
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:12 PM
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It is shallow. Why is a man even entertaining a woman with make up in the first place if he's not into it??? He should just spare the girl and not even entertain her. I'm projecting nothing. Why would I personally care about your preferences and be offended by them? You're just a random stranger to me. Thats odd. It's just annoying how dudes make the biggest deal over the littlest things on this sub. I've never met a man who made a big deal about make up the way guys talk about it online. If any…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:40 AM
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If a man sees a woman's face and knows she's wearing makeup and still took the liberty of entertaining her, then loses interest simply because he sees her bear face, then he's shallow as hell, and that is so high school. She is better off with a dude who WILL embrace that she looks beautiful with and without makeup- a true gentleman 💅 Why is it that almost everything women do, it personally offends men? If makeup bothers men so much, why don't they just focus on women who wear NO makeup? What's …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:01 AM
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Me too, is a campaign against sexual abuse, sexual harassment and rape culture where women have a safe space to come forward about the sexual harassment they've endured. So how does this have to do with any hatred of men? Because of this movement, ppl like R. Kelly, Bill Cosby and P. Diddy, Harvey Weinstein, the dude from that 70s show were all able to get busted for their crimes against women. If it wasn't for me too, these dudes would still be sexuall assaulting women. So, sorry that abusers, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:47 AM
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Feminism was never about misandry. The first 2 waves were about women earning their rights- like the right to vote, the right to have a job, the right to education, the right to own property, the right to earn equal wage, and make personal decisions about ones own body. Ppl today just like to load the term and conflate it with misandry. Every dictionary acknowledges that it's about women's rights and equality amongst the sexes. That is what TRUE feminism is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:33 AM
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🧐??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:20 AM
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You're welcome! It will get better, trust 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:47 AM
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Idk but allat but... Whats the point of asking women for their personal opinions if you're just going to argue with what we believe? I don't think you realize, but I'm not a misandrist and you're doing the most by assuming that I'd ever resort to such behavior, or believe such things you're even saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:44 AM
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I won't judge you. It takes a lot of bravery and self awareness to day everything you just did. The memory may always be there but I believe you can emotionally get past this. It just takes a lot of introspection and patience ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:31 AM
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Thanks 🥹💚
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:09 AM
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There are women who hate men, and value womens rights, but not every feminist is a man hater. There are feminist women who truly support equality amongst the sexes and value men, but there are also man hating women who people claim as feminist, but really, they are just a wolf in sheep's clothing A man hater cannot be a true feminist because feminism encompasses equality amongst the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:06 AM
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A misandrist doesn't pretend to value their own rights. Just like how a misogynist or a chauvenist doesn't pretend to value men's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:53 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:41 PM
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No! What normally keeps people in the loop of things is the internet, and when people aren't all the time keeping up with every social issue, some people are not going to be aware of some of the things that exist. Usually, the worst types of people are those who are bigoted and take pride in it, and see nothing wrong with their way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:39 PM
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No one, regardless of man or woman, wants to be accused of something they are not doing. Imagine the feelings a man experiences when a woman makes false claims that could compromise his life as he knows it. He'd feel betrayed, and fearful, right? So just apply the same logic to a man who makes accusations against the mother of his child(ren). Just imagine, you as woman are loyal to a man, are seriously committed to him, then you become pregnant, and endure 10 months of pregnancy, and several lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:33 PM
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It's not. You just aren't educated on what both truly mean. Google is your friend. ❤️💛💚💙
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:22 PM
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That's sweet of you. I appreciate that you understand and see a different perspective 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:20 PM
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Notice how I said "many of us" not all women, because I'm aware that it's not realistic to claim that all women behave or think the same. You've gotta ask the women you're referring to because I don't associate with any women like that, nor do what they're doing. There are different camps of women, and you are referring to team "serial/casual daters", whereas I wasn't. But I'll attempt to answer your question, based on psychology. No matter how shitty those situations sound, these are all men th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:13 PM
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That isn't feminism. That is misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:57 PM
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All feminism is, are womens rights, freedoms and equality amongst the sexes All of these side things, i.e. women claiming false allegations isn't feminism, but rather misandry. I think you are conflating the two. False allegations aren't in the true spirit of equality, and any woman who truly values men is not on par with women who make false claims about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:55 PM
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No this is no doubt "if" we'll meet him at all when one IS a frim believer. I follow r/lawofattraction, and women of that sub all the time are sharing they've met the exact man irl that they've written about or visualized. This stuff is real and it works, it's just a matter of believing, not so much having options
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:54 PM
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She never said that "women have nothing easier than men" but rather she's explaining in detail the things women actually endure having many options from men. It's not all sunshine and rainbows ☀️🌈 how some men believe. Women AND men have their own struggles when it comes to dating. And it's funny that a MAN thinks he has any idea what a woman goes thru. This is a Q4W post, and dudes like you are just trashing the place. And you're just getting butthurt because women would rather be dead honest a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:15 PM
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No one ever said men cannot be victims. Youre just in youre feelings too much. And why come to a Q4W post just to spread bad faith arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:09 PM
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Too bad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:03 PM
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Nah I think women are at the top. Because notice for a man to be at the top he has to be high value, when yet, you can just exist as woman, and not even be high value and you've got men throwing cash, dinners, marriage proposals, and wanting sex with you, and wanting to be your bf, at you. Whereas usually a high value man has to be genetically blessed and/or had to work to get the status he has
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:02 PM
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Men have it rougher in terms of having little to no options, and having the onus put on them in terms of traditional dating i.e. approaching a woman, asking her out on a date, and paying the bill. They have it easier in the sense that it's simpler for them to get their needs met sense they value quantity over quality. When they want sex, nearly any woman will do, and when it comes to dating or marriage, men seem to be focused on securing "good enough". Women have it easy in terms of being blesse…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:52 PM
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When a guy refers to himself as a "nice person", you know he really isn't, because who in this world, man or woman, says that about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:33 PM
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Yea imagine that women value having quality friendships with ppl with good morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:31 PM
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This is a good solid set of requirements with firm boundaries. I like it 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:57 PM
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I think a lot of yall just don't interact with enough in your personal lives. A lot of the women here are saying mostly the same thing- that they value feeling safe with men and typically do not have close male friends because they eventually get feelings for them. This isn't brand new news that a lot of men don't believe they can be friends with women, neither is it new that women want to feel safe and respected by men. What you call red pilling is just basic information
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:54 PM
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When you mention close friends, I envision the bond Joey, Chandler and Ross had with the other 3 girls on Friends. So that's the dynamic I'm going with. Do's ✅️ * Respectful, patient, honest, kind * Good sense of humor * Dependable and loyal * Fun * Doesn't have kids * Around my age - 28 * Values women Dont's 🙅🏾‍♀️ * Engage in hate speech about women * Subscribe to radicalized ideologies like TRP, Manosphere and MGTOW * Have addictions like lying, smoking, and drinking * Talk 💩 behind people's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:44 PM
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For "your body, my choice" I'm referring to the fact that there are many guys going around and mocking women that the power to make decisions about their own body as far as pro choice, is now once again in the hands of the Patriarchs. Men don't need to have any say in the choices a woman makes about her body, so idk what you meant by men get to make no decisions. If you've ever heard of Nick Fuentes, he's receiving a bunch of backlash and battery charges for harassing women in support of "your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:52 AM
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Everything we are both saying is based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:44 AM
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Why does that bother you? There are a lot of women who have less superficial standards and value a lot of internal qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:27 AM
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Yes 💯 💯 I wish they'd learn. I really feel like the only women they see are those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:06 AM
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Yes, this 100%. Our societies don't embrace going out and doing things alone, so many people who are single stay in more, whereas ppl who are coupled up generally go out more to enjoy eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:55 AM
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Nah. I'm 28 and never had a bf- part of it is because dating was never important to me until now. We live in societies that encourage us to move rather quickly. Ppl in our grandparents' generation were getting married around 19, and in modern times, the societal expectation is to get married by 30. But being in your 20s, is the teen years of adulthood. It requires too much time to date, find our spouse, go to college, and/or get a job, and make a living for ourselves while maintaining ourselves.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:54 AM
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I'm a firm believer in ask, and you shall receive, so nothing about this is unrealistic or unreasonable. When it comes to mate selection, I've noticed women are different from men because we generally value quality over quantity, and would rather remain single until we meet a man worth committing to. As far as myself and friend groups of women, we genuinely believe the men we value are out there, and if we value those qualities, it's because our inner knowing knows the exact type of man we desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:35 AM
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The same reason why promiscuous women and baddies are most sought after. Yall are just too focused on sex. You mentioned your buddy having sex with a woman who had a bf, but he's not completely innocent he clearly didnt care to know that woman well enough before sleeping with her. He just saw an opportunity to have sex and took it. When men give in to having casual sex with women they barely know, they're bound to run into situations like this This is why men are most safe by having sex with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:51 AM
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Exactly! And notice his solution is that women should stop engaging in this trend simply because he doesnt like it. I notice a lot of dudes here have complaints about the most basic things women do and resort to an "I don't like this, so you need to change" mentality, but yet they never want to introspect and just choose different types of women to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:40 AM
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You're not welcome. I didn't prove your point at all, but go off king 🙌🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:17 AM
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Yes exactly. I think many go for the looks primarily, and her personality, values, and morals are all an afterthought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:16 AM
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Yes. Exactly. The best advice I ever received from an older gentleman, when it comes to finding a good man is to remain patient and wait, and you'll meet the right person at the right place and right time. Which I think applies to both genders. Supposedly it's counter intuitive when we put ourselves in situations to find a mate, which is probably why online dating has a reputation of low success rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:06 AM
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Based on what I see, some men like: Liberal women for "recreational use" during their bachelor days Then conservative women for wives and mothers of their children, after they've ran thru women and became bored of it. Then, sometimes, go BACK to the liberal women as their side pieces, as a married man 🎵It's the circle of life🎵
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:06 AM
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That's funny! I have blue butterfly locs in my hair as we speak. But idk about there being less women, man haters in conservative groups. A lot of women's hatred of men comes from their experinces with them. Having abusive or neglectful fathers, and bfs who mistreated them, or strangers/acquaintances traumatizing them, like bullies. That treatment isn't limited to liberal women. Based on where I live, a lot of liberal women seem to be more level-headed. They believe in equality for all and suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:02 AM
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Idk. I've seen a lot of men take pics of their food too. It's just a modern ppl, living in first world countries trend. I don't see the problem because a lot of people do this to post Google reviews for the restaurant they're eating at. So it's a way to pay it forward. As Millie Bobby Brown once said "my phone does NOT eat first" and this is a camp a lot of people are in too, men and women both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:39 AM
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No they dont. Thats exactly why the suicide rate is higher amongst men, and several times in this sub alone dudes express their frustration for the lack of empathy they receive from women as if women are the only ones who are responsible for empathizing with men. I don't think you should speak on behalf of men, in general. I think YOU feel better pumping iron and fuxking a pocket pussy, whereas, a lot of other men actually value bonding with their peers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:26 AM
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But you just got done saying to the other dude that with passport bro'ing it's a cheap route investing in women outside of USA. Now you are saying the opposite that it's better to invest more money. So wouldn't it make sense to just date within USA. and maybe just travel around the country or around the state one lives in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:22 AM
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Because those are the types of gurls they are picking. They were never loyal to begin with. This's similar to when women keep picking shitty bfs, then men mock them because she can't find a good man, because those dudes know good men are out there, but shes just not picking them. A true loyal woman would never cheat no matter what. Every other man's advances wouldn't phase her because she knows she has a great man at home. How are your friends picking their companions? Im willing to bet $$ a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:18 AM
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I think a lot of good women are overlooked too, because as much as men think women have it easy on those apps, many don't. Yea the likes reel in, but it takes a good long while to meet a quality guy. A lot of dudes think with their little heads and go for women they truly aren't compatible with. From a womans perspective- A lot of dudes on those apps aren't even looking for anything real with women, because they either want sex, fwbs or they come off as wanting something with you, then they reve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:31 AM
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That is cope. Inanimate objects cannot realistically replace human bonding. You only say this because you probably don't want to bond with other men, or you do not know how to bond with them. This is akin to a man saying a fleshlight is better than real sex with a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:12 AM
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So when you need advice from someone or a hug, you go to a dumbbell, or a barbell? Lol please
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:05 AM
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Yessss that part 💯 I wish many would get this, but instead they think the top dudes are Chads and ridiculously good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:02 AM
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But even that can be exhausting. One can only take so much time off from work, then when he has to go back home, then what happens with the girl he meets and likes a lot? Do they just do long distance, do they wait for eachother? I don't think it necessarily requires $200k/year income, a man can make a lot less and save a certain percent each paycheck. plus if men here don't like that women want men to have a $100k salary what's the point of passport bro'ing if you have to make more $$ just to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:59 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:40 AM
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Because passport bro'ing is just as exhausting if not more. A man has to be in a very stable place in life to have the funds to quit his job, and probably start a new one where he goes, then have the money to travel, make a living and date in foreign lands, and he's doing all that for 1 gf or wife, and/or to have casual sex with many. A lot of the guys here are in the 18-24 age range and do not have the means to live such a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:39 AM
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Right! I feel like guys here are ridiculously obsessed with women. It's like they don't like them, but yet they still want to date them and have casual relations with them. None of the advice they give has to do with self reflection, instead they just focus on how all of their dating problems are the fault of women, and believe everything will get better for them when women lower their standards, if men start treating women like 💩 and when women start taking "accountability" for the fact many ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:34 AM
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I think it's just a matter of finding better women. It's clear a lot of dudes have a certain type they go for, and are also not properly vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:20 AM
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Ok gotcha. Sorry about that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:16 AM
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Exactly this is what I was thinking too. Even tho they accuse women of Chad chasing, I think conversely, many of them focus on super hot women who dont want anything real with men, they just want attention, sex and money. Then when they don't get the attention or relationship that they want, they accuse them of doing what they already were guilty of from the get go. And I think a lot of them spend too much time online, because that whole Dubai thing just shows they just watch a lot of social med…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:16 AM
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Idk this is just odd to me because I personally do not meet women who are like this at all, nor am I like these girls described all the time here. So I guess I have a hard time wrapping my bead around the idea that there are women who lie, cheat, and are disloyal to men at a high rate. Just makes me think maybe guys have a certain type they like to focus on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:10 AM
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This is what's odd to me is, why are you guys involving yourselves with women who do such things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:07 AM
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But emotionally, this does nothing. Women have a way of consoling eachother by maintaining solid bonds, comforting eachother when they are low, letting them know what they truly think of their friends, giving them advice and positively reinforcing them, and hugging eachother. Men don't seem to do this as much with their friends, instead they seem to get off on negging eachother. The gym can't replace friendship and strong emotional bonds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:04 AM
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What type of women are you getting yourselves involved with to even write something like this? I think the issue is you and other men are focusing on a small minority of women, then extrapolate everything you see them do as something that a majority of women who are dating, do. The fact you say that women, as a whole do not value loyalty, kindness and good hearted men is a fallacy. Many do, however, many guys are focusing on the smaller demographic of women who probably several men want, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:26 PM
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Wow! That's crazy the "youre not even pretty" is a universal term many of us hear upon rejecting them. They must watch too many movies or something 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:28 PM
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Exactly. I feel like this is what guys do a lot. They crush on a woman, she rejects him, or he can't get her, and now he takes his frustrations out on the general population of women. That's why many call Margot Robbie mid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:51 PM
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What is your definition of obese? Are we talking Rosemary from Shallow Hal obese, or a woman with a lil extra weight on her, like Adele, pre-weightloss? > There are a lot of ppl from both genders who take accountability for their actions and those who don't. You say women need to start taking accountability if we want things to get better, but what should that be? Plus the thing you said about obese women is completely imaginative thinking. Just because a woman is told she's beautiful does not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:47 PM
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What do women need to take accountability for? You mention obese women are called beautiful as if that violates some sort of unwritten cardinal rule. Do you actually care about the health of random women? Or do you just want people to be real with them so they are more inclined to lose the weight so that they are more aesthetically pleasing to your gaze?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:49 AM
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No he won because a lack of education and because a bunch of people were able to let a billionaire manipulate them. The fact people gladly voted for a racist, sexist, twice impeached man whos supporters stormed the white house on 2021, and a man who is a convicted felon, bigoted pedophile who only cares about him and his rich buddies, shows exactly what's wrong with USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:07 AM
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People of color aren't minorities when they make up a majority of this world and out number white ppl. Thats an ignorant word Because 1. Many people of color believe in Trumps policies and 2. Many People of color want close proximity to whiteness. For instance, it's common to see a lot of racist, conservative Mexicans in CA, but what they don't realize is people, like Trump, and other rich elites don't care about them either and are just as racist toward anyone who isn't white, because those ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:48 AM
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No Trump won because of white, male priveldge. Trump didn't win because of mens personal dating problems with women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:40 AM
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Nobody is above anyone. There is no hierarchy of people. The idea of "the bar is on the floor" for men is women acknowledging the low effort men out here, and it's all types of men, not just men with options and Chads. It's dudes with no bios and shirtless pix on OLD It's average Joe's who do the bare minimum It's men who show up to dates looking like slobs It's men who stop doing everything in a relationship that they did do to attract their gf or wife It's husbands who only think they have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:38 AM
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I'd only want to go back to briefly experience what life was like in the early to mid 1900s, similar to how Marty McFly hung out in 1955 for a week, but in general, no. I wouldn't go back to a life before the sexual revolution because it was a time where the women had to cover up and women had less freedoms. I do think dating was more lit back then, prior to Y2K. We had more 3rd places, like malt shops, video stores, skating rinks, and record stores. People were outside more and filled the stree…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:38 PM
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Vanity Many women take a lot of pride in their physical appearance, and typcially invest more time in it compared to men. They believe in creative self expression- they get their hair done, get mani/pedis, they put on full faces of make up and wear full ensembles. They generally take more selfies, and take pride in sharing their pictures with the world and love to look at their reflection upon passing mirrors and windows. Using their scantily-clad bodies to gain attention and fame Music artists,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:57 PM
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That is based tho. And it's not just Chads who do this, but also average looking men who do that too because it's a desperate attempt to score women, and this really only works on a small minority of women who are looking to get laid. A lot of women use those apps because they have the intention of dating to for longterm What I'm referring to is high quality connections where dudes actually meet women who they can go on dates with, I'm not speaking in terms of low value connections, like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:46 PM
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I don't agree that a man being a teacher or a nurse is something that men are screwed for being in those professions because it's a "girl's job" I used to work in hospital laboratories, and worked alongside many nurses, many of which were male and all of these people were respected for that they do in their field, and were making bank. They're helping save lives, I don't see how saving lives as a nurse is a girl thing, because once a man is a Dr, no one says that its a girls job. They probably s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:59 PM
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Some do, and some don't. Many assume team motherhood because they either want that life or feel that is what they're supposed to do, and others proudly assume team childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:53 AM
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Ok I'll send you a PM 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:01 AM
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So you just haven't found the right person who appreciates you. I feel that 💯 If it helps, I'm into nerdy dudes, and you sound like a great catch 😆 so if you're interested, I'm up for talking to see if we're compatible 🤌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:30 AM
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Lol ok 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:19 PM
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Damn. That's crazy to hear that even a man whose above average in multiple areas isn't getting successful dates either. What do you think contributes to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:17 PM
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Damn. Sorry to hear that it's tough out there like that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:04 PM
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I've noticed a lot of dudes (idk and maybe women too?) tend to view dating as a 0 sum game, where one man's gain, is another man's loss, as if every hetero woman is for every hetero man, and average Adam should go with average Amy, and Chad should go with Stacey, but in reality dating is more complex than a numbers game and looksmatching. It's more about quality. Even if we hypothetically have a 1:1 ratio I think men's dating struggles come from the quality of women they are approaching, the qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 10:59 PM
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You've gotta be shittin me to think that women are actively lining up to date abusers. So what about men who married women who ended up screwing them over and taking all his $$$? Men all the time say "we are the gatekeepers to marriage" so are men actively choosing to marry gold diggers, or are they ignoring their icks and her red flags? 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 10:20 PM
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Indifference isnt a skill you have to train yourself to feel. People are just naturally indifferent to others. This is why dating is a thing becaue you're meeting people you had no idea even existed, you have no feelings for them, and thru the course of getting to know them you start to develop feelings and interest in being included in each others lives. Just look at mundane experiences you go thru where you are amongst the general public. Whether you are at work, school, or a grocery store you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:45 PM
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Wow that's an interesting take
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:05 PM
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Right it definitely is mind boggling thinking about the vast difference in how men of each different tiers are accepted and treated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:50 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:03 PM
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Aye that means you're doing good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:16 PM
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Thank you for sharing I hope it gets better out there for you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:15 PM
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😔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:57 AM
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That's a good analogy that helps me understand 👍 thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:57 AM
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And that's her choice. She doesn't have to have sex with every man who wants her just because she previously had sex with other dudes But I get what ur saying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:46 AM
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So then what sources do you have? Do you not have sex with women? I've never met a man who relies more on what researchers have to say about sex, opposed to person experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:41 AM
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Yup 💯😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:35 AM
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Right. Another big one I noticed irl and on this sub is when a woman is perceived to have lower standards, it's "pick better" and she's accused of only wanting a bad boy. Then, when she has a solid set of higher standards, she is accused of Chad chasing and having unrealistic beliefs. Or when she has sex outside of a relationship multiple times, she's a ran thru slut who is not gf or wife material, but yet when a woman doesn't put out on a first date, now it's "How dare she not fuck me after I p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:41 AM
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How tho. Usually once a man cums he's done, women generally take longer to orgasm and have the ability to go again. Like do you not have sex or something? Cause the way you rely on stats to tell you how women are is kinda sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:01 AM
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But again the research doesn't account for all roughly 4 billion women, tho, it's all based, and depends on the small sample size of womens libidos which they DID study
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:49 AM
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But thats the thing there are many women who do want sex throughout the day AND they can go for multiple rounds at any given moment. I know I can and I know I'm not the only woman in the world who is like this. Can men have multiple orgasms in one round alone? Or can they immediately go for round 2, after they came?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:43 AM
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Yup lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:20 AM
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I agree with you based on my own personal experiences. Many times when I've had sex, I can immediately go for round 2, whereas the dude either has to wait to get hard again, or once his balls were drained he had to recover from their refractory period.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:19 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:57 AM
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Yes I figured a lot of people were a bit older too cause I'm 28 and it's odd to see that a lot of men here want to date, have sex with and marry women, but they also give off vibes that they don't even like them, which I think comes from their frustrations of not attracting who they want or anyone, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:54 AM
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Based on the way some dudes speak, they do come off as people under 30 years old. Many of them seem like dudes who are relatively new to dating and having sexual relations with women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:47 AM
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I never said I choose the bear Nor do I subscribe to the man vs bear logic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:44 AM
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Ok gotcha 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:41 AM
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Very interesting. I haven't talked to too many women about how long they can last, so it's interesting to learn that this is common with other women. Can you keep up with any women? 😅🥵 sorry if that's too personal, I curious
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:37 AM
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Research is rather biased tho and can at times consist of cherry-picked data. Because the libido of women varies from woman to woman, how would we know if the women in their sample size generally just had low libidos. And when you look at just 1 round of sex alone, a woman can go for round 2 and for many men they cant go a second round because they either have to wait to get hard again, or their refractory period limits how much sex they have in one given moment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:31 AM
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Well, besides this man What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:24 AM
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Why would I value something with no benefits and several downsides? So basically, a woman comes with no benefits and many downsides because a man lowered her worth then, but yet how does a man whose had sex with many women enrich a womans life??? So if your child about to be born is a daughter is this the same concept that you're going to teach her, that her worth and value declines based on the number of sexual relations she has with men? And once her worth declines from having sex with men she…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:20 AM
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Exactly lol. Supposedly, men are conditioned to build their worth and value as they age thru acquiring skills, earning trust, accumulating financial wealth, having sex with multiple women, and being able to pull a "high value" woman and reproduce kids with her. It's arbitrary, and I personally do not subscribe to that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:58 AM
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Yea. I've never understood the logic of bi sexual women who think like that, like what's the point of being bi if they can't accept the ppl they are with are equally bi?? 🤔 I guess how some bi women feel about dudes having sex with other men is akin to how some hetero men about women having sex other men 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:52 AM
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Ok. I gotchu 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:47 AM
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Women are both godesses and Goddesses. And why would I leave a woman who has only had sex with me? This implies that you only value a woman based on the fact that there were no other guys. Because would you say the same thing, if the number were, say, 5 guys, 10, 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:46 AM
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The fact that men still want to date, have sex with and marry women, even if they have sex shows that they are still Queen. The fact your tag says "Married nerdy father to be" is a perfect example. You having sex with your wife which has lead to her birthing yalls child, shows that you don't see her as less valuable or leave her because you've had sex with her. If you subscribe to the belief a woman loses value with each sexual encounter she has with a man then that means the mother of your chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:46 PM
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I think it depends on the man and the type of woman he's with. I've been on dates with guys who were definitely average and a couple suggested we split the bill on the first date. I had no problem with that, and I know I'm not the only woman alive with that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:36 PM
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Autonomy or not, the fact is a woman's value only decreases after she's been with a man. Then his perceived value is higher after getting with a woman. So clearly this tells us all we need to know who is innately more valuable based on social standards Women are goddesses
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:33 PM
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Right. So what one man wont do another man will. She can leave him, then will probably have no problem meeting another dude who will respect her. Women have that ability, it is not hard to find a man. The dude who she's leaving on the other hand..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:27 PM
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For nagging, it depends on what the issue is. To a man, he hears a nagging wife who "doesn't know when to shut up", meanwhile the nagging could really be a wife expressing genuine concerns of the relationship. Suggesting that a woman "could always leave if her husband does not listen" Is a scapegoat, that really shows you don't understand marriage and the sacred bond. Marriage isn't meant for people who just kick the bucket at simple road bumps, which is what youre suggesting here. You're comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:21 PM
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Whats it like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:49 PM
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What I find ironic is according to society: Woman = born with high value Woman has no sex = pure, high value, wifey Woman sleeps with man = low value, slut, whore, recreational use only, skank, cum receptacle, village bike, ran through, bop Man sleeps with woman = high value, Don Juan, stud, desireable, hubby So wouldn't this mean its really men who lower women's value?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:37 PM
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If his n count isn't at least 105, I don't want him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:27 PM
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I could say the same to you. Yall get butthurt when women don't like men or feel safe around them, meanwhile yall just continously act like assholes reaffirming why they want nothing to do with some of you This snarky comment is exactly what I mean. Yall are just assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:24 PM
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Oh Yes 💯 Kindness and confidence go such a long way. I like that you acknowledge that idea. Our societies are so focused on physically appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:19 PM
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Yes there is, and that makes you a slut too. But I'm sure after you fuck them you consider yourself a stud and high value. When you knowingly engage in casual sex with women, without committing you are contributing to the very dynamic that diminishes her societal value. You are aware that her n count, in the eyes of society, may lead her to being harshly judged or seen as less desirable in the dating market. Yet they are increasing you perceived value while decreasing her own. The double standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:43 PM
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People are still going to think what they want to regardless of what megan markel has to say. You say this meanwhile many men of this sub and irl aren't ready to confront the harmful stereotypes they impose on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:03 PM
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I just think you as a man are trying to hard to explain something that is not within your territory. The question is asking women why we think of and treat our friends and ppl we associate with the way we do. You truly do not know, you are just giving answers in bad faith, thinking we are lying simply because we don't call our friends fat, if that's what they are. I don't understand why many of you are flocking to a post that never asked for your opinion. Someone being overweight has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:23 PM
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So basically every time you go to meet your buddies, you want them to remind you of everything they perceive wrong with your character based on what society says is acceptable? "Aye bro, I know we've been friends for years now but I just wanna remind that you can't pull any women and you're mid as hell"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:00 PM
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Too many of yall are immature, here. Like what are you 17?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:53 PM
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It's not lying to embrace the positives about people and look beyond the qualities that do not appeal to the male gaze. Straight men seem to be the only demographic of people who get off on negging. Thinking it's bold or being real with people by telling a woman "you'd look better if you lost 20 lbs". They are the only people who's closest friendships involve negging eachother, and think fat shaming, slut shaming, age shaming are all doing a service to people just because their existence or beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:49 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:32 PM
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No. I understood everything perfectly clear. He's an ass who gets off on body shaming people for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:26 PM
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From what I've noticed with heterosexual men who bond with other men, their friendships involve negging eachother, and they think that makes them bold or more real or something, when really it shows they aren't comfortable with their masculinity because they probably fear being kind with eachother is going to get written of as gay or soft. Idk if you've ever been around gay men, but the way they embrace people is so difference compared to hetero men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:06 PM
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There is no cognitive dissonance. A woman can have friends and people they value of all shapes and sizes, but can be sexually and romantically attracted to a certain type of man. You're conflating platonic relations with romantic and sexual relations. Because I'm sure a lot of men have overweight buddies or friends with balding heads, but that doesn't mean they want to date women who are also overweight or balding. Like be honest with yourself, do the men you associate with platonically all have…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:54 PM
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And men like you are even more repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:46 PM
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All of the men here giving bad faith answers as if they know how women think. A lot of dudes here are clearly miserable ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:44 PM
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I think men should refrain from speaking on behalf of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:41 PM
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Yea, imagine that, people being kind and admiring eachother regardless if they have what they're admiring. There always has to be internet trolls always stirring the pot somewhere by giving unwarranted shitty opinions. Smart woman You clearly don't like women. Invading their spaces and trying to just spread hate. Thats misogyny sir, and you deserve whatever comes to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:40 PM
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Lol ur accusing a woman of being a naracissist because an overweight woman completed a skinny woman, then didn't like being body shamed, but yet the dude you're commenting to clearly has no problem spreading hate and Shame simply because she's not skinny is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:37 PM
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The reality is not different, but rather, a lot of hetero men strictly view women based on her sex appeal, whereas women tend to see eachother and those they socialize with based on their emotional bond and their holistic view of them. Notice the way you judge a woman I will say "well she's a good person but I don't think she looks that good for her age hence her problems with dating" or I'll say it's because she's obese or she dresses terribly You completely invalidate the fact that she's moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:29 PM
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Sorry, but you're being stupid on purpose, aren't you? This is why women choose the bear Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:10 PM
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Good for you You have your beliefs and women have theirs. Yall are the ones who gotta deal with ppl not thinking you're safe to be around. So enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:54 PM
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Ok well I'm not trying to debate this all day. So I'm done here I do not personally subscribe to the man vs bear logic, all I'm doing is explaining women's reasoning behind the matter Plus yes there is a lot of widespread male abuse tf. Idk where you've been but. All school shooters, and serial killers are men, and a great number of pedophiles and rapists are men. And sadly sexual assault by step fathers is very common in households. Men easily top the charts for being the more abusive and negle…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:45 PM
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but for some reason you appear to believe yourself safer with a bear (we need to define the type of bear; polar, brown or black before we can continue) than with a man Uhm no. Where did I say I personally feel safer with a bear? So I guess you better practice your reading skills too 😉 All I'm doing is explaining where women's logic comes from for why they pick the bear, even though I personally do not subscribe to it. which signifies a massive lack of ability to evaluate danger. Picking the bear…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:36 PM
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If you are neurotic enough to think that bears are less justifyingly dangerous than men, you need to be institutionalised, especially if you have male sons. Yall over think this too much. Yall really think women would actively go out into the woods and be with a bear? They would have done it already. It's all hypothetical. To express their disdain for men because they are tired of being lied to, cheated on, neglected, abused, used as place holders, objectified, seen as less than a man, mocked fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:14 PM
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And at the same time, these same women interact in some way with literally MILLIONS of men throughout their lives. Now I have a question for you at the elementary school student level... Which number is greater, 1 or 1,000,000? That's the point of man vs bear. Throughout their lives they interact with countless men, more than you can count on your hands and feet, and are subjected to lies, abuse, cheating, neglect etc. That they'd rather be done with the entire gender and have 1 bear take them o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:02 PM
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Having less muscle mass and strength has nothing to do with ones ability to evaluate danger. Thats odd to compare the two. But speaking of "physically the weaker sex" is exactly why a lot of women are done with men. Men use that fact as an excuse to abuse, neglect, and over power women which is where the idea of man vs bear comes from. Some believe men are so vial toward them, that they'd rather be with an animal who is instinctually meant to kill. It's meant to drag men for how unsafe women fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:58 PM
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A lot of women do not feel safe when it comes to some men tho. Because they have been abused physically and emotionally, so they'd rather deal with a gruesome death by a wild animal than be neglected by the hands and words of a man. They still have their dignity when a bear attacks them. That's the point they're making A 5 years old could look at data of bear encounter and bear attacks This is part of the reason why women say they pick the bear. Yall are just rude and belittle women, but yet wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:52 PM
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A lot of women aren't femcels tho, and I dont see why ppl use a special female term for incel when the term was actually coined by a woman frustrated with dating. Women would not lower the bar. Women don't have to lower their standards. They like what they like. Whenever they have lower standards they are accused of only wanting bad boys over the good guys, or are berated to pick better, especially when they become single mothers. It's valid to desire princess treatment in a relationship because…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:44 PM
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Not just that, but I also hear men talking about how many women are entitled and want to be treated like a princess in relationships men are also part of the problem because they not only put up with such women, they actually reward them for it by dating them and catering to them Exactly. I truly believe a lot of men out here do not like women, they only tolerate them because they like sex too much, they want gfs to combat feeling lonely, and many want to have children. Like, they want gfs but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:12 PM
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What the hell. Math? The whole point of man vs. Bear is because some women are so jaded from their experiences with some men who neglect and abuse them, that if they are going to get attacked by someone, they'd rather have it be by a wild animal who is known for their vicousness because at least they will leave this world with dignity, opposed to being hurt or abused by the hards and words of a fellow human. women have zero math skills and don't know how statistics work Exhibit A for why some wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:56 AM
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So basically, those dudes are signing their lives away to stay single and sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:45 AM
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Many women are also not able to attain those partners. Only ~2.6% of US men are at least 6 feet tall and earn at least 100k But I'm acknowledging that there are women who can. Not those who cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:34 AM
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Yay for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:41 AM
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Those women don't represent every woman tho. Maybe a lot of women do what you're suggesting but you're reaching too far by saying every woman. Plus how have you seen that with your own eyes. You be watching girls take their dates home. You must be into voyerism then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:12 AM
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That's a fallacy. Because I can already tell you I've never done none of what you're saying, and have a friend group of women where most of us only have sex with men in committed relationships. Never during those initial dating stages. Its not safe Very bold of you tho to assume the actions of ~4 billion people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:10 AM
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Ok well I'm not a lesbian, I do not have romantic or sexual interest in women nor do I try to pursue them. I'm strictly speaking on what I observe as a heterosexual woman with men who treat us certain ways Part of what I'm speaking on is specifc to women, because men aren't slut shamed the way that women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:06 AM
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Or are you saying women in your circle NEVER have crushes, never flirt, hookup and have flings with men they actually desire and want? Nope. Why the fuck are you pigeonholing men into marriage, while you f'n get to enjoy the whole spectrum of life experiences? Who tf said anything about marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:45 AM
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Nope it's all kinds of men. But nice try trying to deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:42 AM
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it’s rarely the reason he doesn’t the women he wants Well then I guess a dude needs to learn to just be happy with what he can get. Plus this is a based statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:37 AM
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There is no lie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:44 PM
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Yes. It's introspection. Instead of thinking about what he doesn't have and how that's the reason he can't pull women, he needs to embrace who he is, what he has and what he can do to attract women. The biggest thing usually is social skills and charisma, because even when dudes DO have many of the best qualities they still have to put effort into being social and pulling those women, and getting sex or relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:39 PM
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whereas they'd subject less desirable men to multiple dates and "getting to know eachother" How would you even know this? Do you just watch women's dating lives like a hawk? A woman can't subject men to dates if the dude is the one choosing to pursue the woman, let alone lure him into a relationship. Men have agency, you know. Obvi when people want to have sex, regardless of man or woman, people ideally want to get it from the most attractive individuals. Like I'm sure you whenever you think abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:33 PM
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I like how self aware and objective you are. Those also arent the only important things: being social; being funny; being smart; being understanding; etc. can also be helpful Yes this 10000% 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:49 PM
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Nope. You're reaching too far with that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:20 PM
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Yes. I've been single all my life, and I'm 28F I didn't start caring about my sex appeal to dudes until high school. Thats when I started getting into make up and shopping at stores like Forever 21, to appeal to their gaze, but sadly that's also when I started thinking that being darker-skinned and thick made me less attractive to men. My early 20s, after college ~24, was when I really started thinking about sex and relationships with men. Nowadays, I prioritize my creative side when it comes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:00 PM
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That's really weird to say as if you know A lot of yall just have a huge fixation on casual sex, so yea I'm sure a lot of women are going to go for hot dudes when it comes to meaningless casual sex similar to how when yall think about having sex with women you probably picture young, skinny or slim thick, hot women, with big tits and ass. I think you're just envious because a lot of men wish they could pull women the same way that women can pull men, regardless of their looks, for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:33 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:25 PM
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but you're implying that we don't have it hard. that's not true I never said men do not have it hard. That's entirely different from the fact that as far as behavior a lot less is required of men The fact you mention the idea that men aren't encouraged to cry n show emotion is a perfect example of "the bar is on the floor". Men aren't not required to show emotion, meanwhile women are expected to show theirs means women are also expected to help accept and regulate other ppls emotions as well as …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:19 PM
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By your logic, we should also revere nice guys and simps for being selfless, yet society generally does not These guys usually aren't selfless Nice guys are either doormats who are pedestalizing women because they have a scarcity mindset and do not want to lose who they have because its hard to score, or they are putting up a facade to get laid. Simps are the types who go to OF to chat up women to have the gf experience, or they are dudes who pay for dates solely as a means to access sex. All of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:07 PM
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Lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:59 PM
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Not speaking for them when I'm just reiterating what they already say/do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:58 PM
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Not speaking for them when I'm just reiterating what they already say/do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:58 PM
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Some dude did a woman wrong now all men are evil, that's where that shit comes from. A lot of yall on this sub are the same way Ever heard a woman hold another one accountable for doing a man wrong? No? Thought so. Uhm I have. Thats literally my friend group. We are all real with eachother so miss me with that bs. Plus some men don't do men wrong and deserve the bs he had coming. Why do u think men are so great that they don't do ppl wrong And just automatically assuming that no women take accou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:57 PM
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Nope this is all kinds of men Because even myself have had experiences with bare minimum dudes and they had none of the 666. You bringing up the 666 is a deflection and doesn't even make sense because what you're saying implies we are getting with a demographic of men who are probably less than 10% of the male population. Many women do not have access to men of that caliber so how are so many of us able to complain about the same issue, when these are dudes they've dated or went on dates with? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:38 PM
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It's very easy to get hard limited by face or height. There are a lot of women who care about none of these things tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:29 PM
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Many of us men have better hygiene than most women, we are groomed, healthy, use bidet to wash out asses to, but it doesn't matter in the dating world because we aren't tall, handsome, or well built enough. Being clean is the bare minimum, so yes it does matter. And no. The main things that make men successful in pulling women are adequate social skills, and charisma. All that other stuff like, tall, handsome and well built are just a bonus. Yes a lot of women like that, and it helps, but they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:58 PM
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Because that's what they want to do tf. A woman doesn't do anything she doesn't to. What young person doesn't want to have sex? And it's not most young women in "harems" either. It's only the demographic of women engaging in casual sex and roster dating and fwb situations. There are more women who are in relationships with men, or they are actively single. So what you're asking just comes with the territory of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:43 PM
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Toy soliders, trucks, tools and everything else generally condition men these are all a man's territory. The toy soliders don't condition them to die but rather it conditions them from a young age that serving is their duty, and that they are the expendable gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:25 PM
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This is a great list 👌 thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:36 PM
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Exactly. Glad you can relate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:31 PM
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especially with the dating apps, i am seeing more and more women of older and older ages continuing to have "situationships" I really don't see how you could observe that thru dating apps based on what others are doing. Siutationships happen because a man does not want to commit to women, if he's not emotionally ready to commit to anyone, the age nor the race/ethnicity makes a difference. it seems to me that it is taking women longer to learn the lesson than it did in the past. that is just what…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:29 PM
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Pretend to be liberal and a feminist and all that other nonsense just to get laid. That's sad as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:07 PM
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Not all women are after 6 feet tho. Yea maybe some women are shallow, but many arent. I don't understand why dudes would want to appeal to women who would dismiss a guy because he's not 6 feet. Idk man, but I'm always out in the social scenes and from what I observe a lot of dudes who arent 6 feet and not the hottest dudes, have gfs, wives or are single but taking girls home w them. I think social skills and charisma play a big factor in having success with women. Yes looks are a factor ppl valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:34 AM
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Ooo ok gotcha 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:13 AM
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Good point. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:26 PM
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I would even call out any man I know who perpetuates it. That's great. I appreciate that 😃 As for your broader societal point, I largely agree with your perspective. Thank you. You come off as a very well spoken and sensible man (I'm assuming that's your gender, sorry if you're a woman) 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:07 PM
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I think really the main deciding factors are looks and social skills. You can do alright if you have one of those two things (and probably exceptionally well if you have both) Yes 💯💯 I feel like the idea of having social skills isn't given enough light as a requirement to successfully date, especially on PPD. A lot of folks put most of the weight on physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:42 PM
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No it doesn't. It comes from all types of men Women who had shitty fathers Men who do "nice things" just to get laid Men who do not like women, and are misogynistic toward them but still come to them to get laid. Men who avoid accountabilty Men who blame all their problems on women Men who believe they are above women Men who aren't good boyfriends It's everything And you solely trying to pass it off on solely on the "bad boys" is just a pathetic scapegoat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:25 PM
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I never considered this perspective. I like your hot take. Btw it is similar to ideal of interwar period and late belle epoque. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:17 PM
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It's not why men are struggling in dating, it's just a convenient way to scapegoat women for the men who are struggling. Oo good point 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:03 PM
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The most desirable men by nearly all women are going to be the tall, hot, wealthy, well endowed men. That’s just the truth Yes, there is lot of truth to this. For this to be the image that comes to women's mind, do you think this is what women have been socialized into thinking is most attractive? Just looking at men in the media, usually the protagonist is a super attractive man who has all of those things, or he's an everyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:38 PM
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Men expect a bare minimum from women. Hoeflation is the reason. Then don't these 2 statements contradict eachother? There are about 2 definitions I've seen for hoeflation online so to make it easier, what is the definition of hoeflation you're going with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:23 PM
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What other qualities do some women require?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:18 PM
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Because they areas that strongly impact their success and are unchangeable. But looking at 666 alone, the only thing a man can't change is height. So hypothetically, if what you're saying is true, men can still work to earn 6 figures and gain 6 pack abs and be 2/3, which could pull a lot of women Stepping outside of your logic, based on responses of men here, many are saying they've met 0 to 2 of the qualities and still had women wanting them for dating and sexual relations. Plus women in genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:14 PM
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Yes womens standards for men who they date are higher. But at the societal level for what's expected of them they have a lower bar. When it comes to what's generally expected of women, usually when they are young girls they are conditioned to keep up with their hygiene, dress prim and proper, they are given baby dolls which condition them to fulfill the roles of mothers, they usually are given chores that focus on cooking abd cleaning, and as we age we are always told we need to get a man, how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:07 PM
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666 is bullshit, peddled by grifters like Tate. It is not congruent with reality. You should not pay any credence to it If the 666 rule were accurate, you'd likely see over 90% of men single, maybe even more than 95. That just isn't congruent with reality I like that you acknowledge this. Topics like this need to be PSAs as opposed to all of the content grifters are spreading
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:46 PM
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endless options almost every woman will have thanks to social media and dating apps, women being selective and most women (due to either biology, socialisation or a combination of both) will not initiate with a guy even if it's one they're attracted to. Very interesting points 👌 thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:43 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:37 PM
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compared to that of the oofy doofy dork. Most guys want to date like the former, not the latter. I think what the dilemma is: a lot of dudes want the ease of effortlessly pulling women the way some conventionally attractive men can, but do not want to take the latter approach, and invest the effort in what is needed to be able to pull multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:27 PM
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Ooo yes. Good point. What purpose do you think it serves the individuals who focus on qualities they can't change?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:01 PM
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Nothing I've said is hate speech against men, just objective fact because: Womens' feelings toward men do not come from nowhere. > It can easily be seen that men here do have animosity toward women who aren't receptive of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:58 PM
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Bye now. You can't even be objective and properly debate. If this was a REAL debate you would have been disqualified because slander (naracissist, moron and dumb) are just cheap attempts to attack the person, not the argument. Just shows your level of maturity. Love ya bye 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:56 PM
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i know are hygenic and they can't find partners. Okay. Thats what they should already be doing. Then there are obvi other reasons specific to them, for why they are single. Just because a man cleans his own ass, doesn't mean he's bf material. This is what is meant by "the bar is in hell for men" being clean, hygenic and well kempt is the bare minimum. Those women are bullshitting, they want 666 men. Women aren't one dimensional people. Not all women care about that 666 nonsense. Literally go out…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:47 PM
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How are you ending up in a scenario where you're dating guys who are this unhygienic? Those people shouldn't have met your criteria to date to begin with? Going out on a date with a man to meet one isnt the same as actively dating one, as in a relationship. What is happening with a lot of women, mostly with ones using OLD, is they match with a man then meet him irl for a date then are taken aback by his lack of hygiene, and unkempt appearance. A second date never happens here. Or he approaches y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:23 PM
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The implication is that they can't find men who are hygenic, which is, of course, bullshit. It's really not. Women have no reason to make "bullshit" up, like that. Clearly they want to date men and are appalled at the ones they are meeting who do not clean themselves. I can attest to the same experience. I don't see why take up for men you don't even know who don't even take care of themselves. They can't find men they want for other superficial reasons but they don't want to say it out loud. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:13 PM
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Bruh, stopping capping. No man/woman knows anyone better than him/herself, and the fact you lead with ignorant claims that women lack introspection is exactly what women mean when they say the bar is in hell for men, a lot of yall don't even like women and just say shitty things about them, but still except to get laid, then wonder why they have no harem men don't lack introspection. If this were true we'd have less bare minimum men with SHIT in their underwear and asses, and more men who actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:03 PM
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Which obvi is not a problem for yall since a majority of mens concerns seem to be about getting laid and no commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:56 PM
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Not relevant but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:52 PM
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You just need to shower and clean yourself, that's all i want!" (lmao). It's almost used as a way to insult men as a group while forcibly making women look reasonable. It's silly and bullshit, there are a plethora of men who keep clean, you just don't want to date them for other reasons (too poor, doesn't have a degree, too short, too ugly, etc.) It's really not used an insult, you are just taking it that way. Rather those women are expressing their frustration that men who they have gone on dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:50 PM
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Because this other woman is saying that men, compared to women, typically have a lower bar to meet to be considered exceptional. Therefore men are being over valued for doing the bare minimum or doing low effort things. We see this thru double standards. Men all the time say they want women who can cook and clean, meanwhile they do not plan do to either of those things in a relationship nor have the skill to. She has a higher list of requirements to meet in order to be taken seriously as a gf or…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:34 PM
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I'm not saying that at all I'm giving you room to explain how are men getting lead on but you keep spinning your own narrative that I'm making accusations. Obvi you aren't trying to answer. So women must not be leading you on, personally. Why do you think "doing nice things" is some sort of exceptional gesture when you aren't obligated to do "nice things" for anyone. Obvi you did those things with the intent of getting a return on your investment. You wanted sex, but didn't get it because she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:11 PM
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If women feel so strongly about shitting on men, people aren't born resenting people, so obvi their strong resentment comes from somewhere regarding mens behavior. Literally just read some of the things dudes post on this sub, basically talking shit about women because they dont have a harem of women who want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:56 PM
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You can't speak for women, tho. You do not know what motivates them to say the things that they do. The quote you are citing only accuses women of hating on men just for the sake of hating them, but obvi those feelings have to come from somewhere. Men are not perfect, little heaven sent angels. Women say the bar is in hell for men because of the overabundance of bare minimum Barry's and low effort men. Y'know the types who wanna do just enough to get laid, or are the ones who perpetuate double s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:52 PM
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Women who say this are usually expressing their frustration over the abundance of bare minimum Barry's and low effort men who barely know how to take care of themselves nor be an equal companion in relationships. Women are sympathizing with the fact that quality men are few and far in between. They are tired of men who have shit stains in their drawers and dried shit in their ass. Men who only use the shower water to get clean - no soap. They are tired of the fact that women basically have to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:45 PM
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No women are truly attracted to guys of that nature
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:29 PM
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Do you not know how to interpret a question. Why not just answer instead of spinning your own narrative. I'm trying to understand a man's POV to see exactly how one gets lead on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:25 PM
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A lot of men arent tho. A lot of yall try to hard to immediately disprove anything about men that makes them not look like saints, in this sub. This graph you sent is a friendly reminder that women bare a bulk of domestic labor and child care, while also working, meanwhile, the husband works, but doesnt contribute to the household as much, and has excess time for leisure So all you did was prove what I was saying to the other commenter. I really don't see how you would even attempt to say men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:19 PM
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Ok what you're referring to is off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:58 PM
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Many are not tho. That is your assumption. This post has nothing to do with sex nor romance, but rather attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:57 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:14 AM
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How is he getting lead on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:00 AM
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I never said women are infallible and perfect, you assumed that about me. I stated a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:27 AM
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I don't know where you get this idea that women are infallible and perfect. I've never made such claims. You did tho You obvi are trying soo hard to defend men. You're literally under a discussion post made for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:19 AM
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It's called when a woman doesn't want to fuck a man. That's exactly my point. Men only think it exists because they don't get the outcome they wanted. A woman doesn't "let" a man do nice things for her. She has no control over his actions. The man himself chose to do that for her, because why was he doing nice things in the first place??? Clearly he was expecting something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:16 AM
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Nope. Just because you don't like something that someone says doesn't mean I'm a naracissist. Nothing I've said or done even indicates that Yall can't even debate people without resorting to ad hominens. Bye now 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:11 AM
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It's a quirk of the numbers, but I've read that governments led by women are on average a little more belligerent than governments led by men. Every society we have that is lead by men has resulted in war, corruption, the death of many, and the oppression of groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:08 AM
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That's great how it worked out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:02 AM
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Bars are amongst the worst places to meet people. The only shared interest is the fact that you both drink. When you're someone who wants to date people with the intent of securing a long-term relationship, a bar isn't the best place to find someone stable and available. Bar-enthusiasts may have addiction problems, or a lack of emotional regulation. Guys just trying to get their 🍆 wet may enjoy going to bars to pick up women, but alcohol doesn't typically lead to good outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:30 AM
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I'm not loading the term. You are by conflating it with unrequited love. From my personal experience the people that usually felt they were friendzoned were dudes who were only my friend to get the cookie, or they figured if they are extra nice to me id date them or give them the cookie. Then when they didn't get it, some were aggressive w me, implying they were shooting for a specific outcome. You aren't a woman so you dont see/experience it from the perspective that I have. Yes you can have yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:14 AM
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Which is exactly what I'm trying to tell you. Youre saying every man will benefit from women quitting their jobs, which would mean all those women, hypothetically, would have to find a financially and emotionally stable man to provide for her, and there are not enough, rich or well off men who can provide for every woman who leaves their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:59 AM
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Show me where I'm being a hypocrite If you actually read what I'm saying, I speak on how embracing the soft girl era does not benefit men nor women. But go off, just looking to argue for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:53 AM
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The fool proof formula is literally just; be physically attractive No it's not. A lot of yall on this sub are just a bunch of damn pigs. All yall care about is getting your dick wet, and just being a bunch of hoes, as if that's the end all be all of life. There's more to life than obsessing about drowning in pussy, and being a physically attractive asshole. I don't see what's stopping yall from making yourselves more physically attractive if yall know this is the fool proof formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:53 AM
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That's the idea. More open vacancies = more employment opportunities for men. Just because there are more slots open for men doesn't mean the unemployed is going to take them. That's a current issue we have. Many companies are understaffed either because people don't want to work, they don't have the ability to, or they are not enough qualified people to fulfill those jobs. But yes let's have even more people actually working their jobs quit Who said anything about providing? I'm simply stating …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:40 AM
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But the OP does the same thing, looking only at how not working hurts women. Are you seriously making a big deal because a post about "soft girl era" doesnt include her opinion on how it affects men? The OP never said this shift wouldn't affect men tho, the whole point of her post is focusing on women who ARE currently doing this with boyfriends WHO ARE willingly providing for their gfs. Jesus, imagine if there was a TikTok trend about men quitting their jobs to "go to Starbucks" while supported…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:29 AM
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I've never changed any definitions. Nor did I ever say I think I'm smart, you said that about me, so you must think it's true. Bye now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:16 AM
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The term “internalised misogyny” is, itself, misogynistic I don't think you even know what you're saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:03 AM
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The economy would adjust just fine. There are plenty of dudes who are either unemployed No. It won't. That's a massive shift that our society isn't ready for. These 2 statements contradict eachother. You claim we will do just fine with only men being in the workforce meanwhile you go on to mention the unemployed dudes, who arent even working in comparison to the women that you want to just leave their jobs. How is that beneficial to society? Thats also more taxes coming out of ppls pay, with les…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:48 AM
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My biggest ick in a man is when they judge a woman for her age, even though they will eventually be that age and older.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:23 AM
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If all women suddenly dropped out of the workforce, men would be more than willing to pick up the slack. Actually, some industries probably wouldn't even notice anything at all. This would greatly impact the economy tho. And "all" woman would not hypothetically drop out of the workforce because 1. A lot of women are single mothers that men would not be willing to take in, and 2. A woman being able to live a soft girl life at the expense of a man is a privilege because a lot of men do not have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:01 AM
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Yall? Why are you lumping me with other ppl? I've never said "only men" complain about the friendzone nor have I denied that women don't. I dont know what women do from mens' perspective. I'm a woman, so I'm only speaking on what I've experienced and what is unique to a woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:41 AM
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What’s your definition of friendzone? For people who use this term, it's identified as them not getting the expected outcome of sex or a relationship simply because they have romantic or sexual feelings for someone. But all that means is they were rejected. They aren't put in a little special zone, all it means is that person either has platonic feelings, or they just aren't into that person at all. The idea of the friendzone implies they believed they are owed something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:35 AM
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Everything I've said in my post is based on my subjective experience as a woman, that other women can attest to as well. Nothing I said is a strawman. So you being a man can't really tell a woman that what she sees and experiences is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:27 AM
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Just because you reject a woman, doesn't mean you are putting her in the friend zone tho. It just means you do not have romantic or sexual feelings for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:24 AM
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Some women deliberately lead male friends on and take advantage of their unrequited feelings because they enjoy being showered with attention, gifts, and other things beyond what you'd typically expect from a friend, as well as having a backup on speed dial, ie, the "friend zone". Right, but a lot of times those types of men make themselves too available to those women. If he has romantic feelings for her, but instead finds himself just emotionally supporting her, then he's basically put himself…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:22 AM
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Females simply often don't realize that the guy who "wants to be their friend" just wants to be in a relationship with them. So basically some men put themselves there. The actions and behaviors that show romantic interest are vastly different from how one shows platonic interest. Just as some men say they aren't mind readers, women aren't mind readers either, and don't know the interest a man has in her when he's not direct. We slut shame because behaving like a slut is bad for the female. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:14 AM
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That's internalized misogyny. Slut shaming is rooted in misogyny and only reserved for women, notice men aren't slut shamed. And you bringing this up is just a deflection. The topic of discussion isn't women who slut shame eachother, but rather men who DO. But I see you ain't ready to have that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:05 AM
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which by definition means that a good/best male friend would be the top candidate for the position of a bf Just because a man is a good friend does not mean he is bf material to a woman tho. because it will take away their ability to manipulate men How is a woman manipulating a man that believes he's been friendzoned?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:02 AM
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Yes 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:59 AM
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Evidence? I don't see why you need evidence, but literally this sub, alone is full of dudes mentioning how they've been friend zoned. And the fact they are complaining about not getting the sex or relationship they wanted shows that he is judging her for not saying yes to him. The other evidence is just existing as a woman, and seeing happen. What remotely sane man calls a woman a slut or a whore for simply having sex with one man? I didn't say "one man", I'm talking about the idea of women havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:13 AM
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Where is the lie? I'm speaking from experience here Maybe a lot men can't relate to what I'm saying, but it doesn't mean what I'm saying is nonsense. That boot isn't gonna fit every person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:02 AM
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I think there are two types of friendzone - malicious one and unintentional one. That's a good point. I never considered the idea of malicious intent, but yea it is true that people can get lead on under false pretences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:56 AM
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You're not a woman tho, who sees it from the perspective that we do. A lot of men have gotten mad at me, just for not accepting their advance to date or have sex with them, and this is an experience a lot of women attest to, and I'm 28, and Ive observed this behavior in dudes between the ages of 25 and mid 40s. Even in this sub, several men bring up that they've been friendzoned, in previous posts. And slut shaming is as old as time. It's no secret that guys will even slut shame the girls who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:51 AM
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A woman who doesn't break her rules for a man, is a woman with a high level of self respect, good moral values, and solid boundaries. She has standards that need to be met before giving up the cookie. When she doesn't put out for a man it has nothing to do with his looks, but rather the emotional investment And no, that's a fallacy that almost everyone will have sex with Chad on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:49 AM
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Come again?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:40 PM
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The friendzone is not real. It's a concept men made up, because they aren't getting the sex or relationship they wanted, so they throw a silent tantrum. said person keeps them around but at a distance in the coming weeks/months right? She's not, "keeping him around" she just sees him platonically, it's not that she is keeping him, but rather the dude is choosing to stick around hoping to get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:10 PM
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But there still is no one size fits all tho, that is what I'm saying. The dudes who have success being PUAs are doing things that only worked for the women they were able to pull. It's all subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:34 PM
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If I ever become president! I'm going to go live and make a public announcement that the "friendzone is NOT REAL"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:32 PM
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So before you start throwing stones at every MAN I never did such things. You are obvi here in bad faith. Bye now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:27 PM
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This dude has never said anything about his looks tho. So everything you said is all hypothetical. Because you really do not know what any of these women were thinking. A lot of women are not into having sex on the first date nor even the first few dates so just because a man does not get action, or ends up with a gf, it doesn't mean "get away gross", it just means they probably weren't compatible. That's literally the point of dating, and generally speaking, women tend to look at men more holli…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:23 PM
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It’s very healthy and helps him get laid with improving success That's why it's unhealthy. Every woman is an individual so what works for one is not going to work for another. Women are very shallow, superficial and predictable and most of them are attracted to the same things in guys lol. If this were true, then men would have all women figured out and there'd be a fool proof formula to get the sex they want when they want it. And the irony is funny, you accuse women of being shallow, superfici…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:16 PM
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You seem to think there is a correlation between women's subjective view of you, and the amount of action you get from them. A woman can think a man is "sweet" "nice" and a "gentleman" without it meaning she has some deep sexual or romantic interest in a man. It just means that how she's sees him as a person. I believe a women calling you nice is just friend zoning The friendzone is not real. If around 60% of your dates end with no intimacy, then that shows they do not get down like that, early …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:12 PM
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Previously, most women admitted that they don't care about their legacy A woman's existence and what she does with her life is HER legacy Based on the predictions you have in these surveys, you clearly do not like women and think low of them. Many of the nations lead by women, do a lot better than nations lead by men. For ex: New Zealand was the first nation to completely restore their economy and safely open the country back up during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the country was lead by a woman. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:43 PM
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If it can get hard, and stay hard that's all I'm concerned about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:24 PM
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You obvi know nothing. IF A MAN IS PAYING CHILD SUPPORT, THERE IS USUALLY A COURT MANDATED ORDER STATING THAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO SEE HIS KIDS. A WOMAN CAN'T LEGALLY KEEP THEM AWAY A lot of yall red pillers here ain't even true red pillers. Many of yall just have this whiny attitude that women are responsible for everything, while men are just helpless victims that everything happens to. Bye now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:23 PM
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I feel like this is everyone tho. A lot of men n women both like that they can go out in public, and do what they gotta do without having a bunch of unwanted attention, thats the beauty of being anonymous. Sure ppl like it when the attention they get is from a person they consider physically attractive, everyone feels flattered by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:43 PM
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No. She is spending time with her family. Then what is the man doing if he's not in the picture, and only paying child support? If a woman thinks raising her own children is "gruntwork" she should get tubes tied. She is tho. Has nothing to do with getting tubes tied. If a man is not physically present she is the one with the kids 24/7, making sure they get to school, maintaining the home they live in, tending to their physical, and emotional needs, making sure they are fed, get their school work…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:55 PM
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Again. The sex yall are bringing up is irrelevant and off topic to the post. To imply women gatekeep sex means you feel entitled to access it simply because you want it. And it's not something that women guard, it's an experience they share with a man, not gatekeep, and women do not have to fuck you if they don't want you. Based on your attitude I can see why. No, sir. Maybe learn that there are other important things, like emotional intimacy, and trust, that are also equally important to deepen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:21 PM
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Who else is the money supposed to go to? The kids ain't mature enough to manage it. We're supposed to just take her word for it that she never spends it on drugs, booze, and fuckboys? This is what happens when you fuck around n find out. The dad never wanted to consider those things before raw dogging or choosing to bail on the family he helped create. She's doing the gruntwork by raising the kids. The least the father can do is give money. Like that's crazy for a man to bail on the family then …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:54 PM
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No! A man asking his wife for a paternity test, simply because she bears the responsibility of childbirth implies he doesn't honor her integrity, and is assuming she doesn't honor her commitment. This is a form of infidelity. But the hidden truth is that she was never really that into her husband, if she found it so easy to leave her husband over something that doesn't cost her anything. This is gaslighting. This does cost a woman a lot, emotionally. No person wants to be accused of something th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:43 PM
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It's easy to downplay the importance of romantic companionship when all you have to do to get to is just show up This is not true for women at all. No one ever had a successful romantic relationship simply from a woman "just showing up". Plus I've heard many men complain about this very thing, that it's not enough to just exist, it's not enough to just be pretty, "what do you bring to the table?" Etc. It seems a lot of dudes are afraid to be vulnerable, so a lot of times, for a woman to get anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:17 PM
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Idk what u mean by sugaring
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:03 PM
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Sex must really be on some of yalls kinds all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:02 PM
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I don't think you know what gaslighting truly is. It's a manipulative tactic used to make one question their own sanity in attempts to make one believe false realities. What I'm saying isn't a false reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:39 AM
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❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:16 AM
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Yes 💯 🙌 I feel like the idea of a traditional date, where the man usually financially invests and the woman receives, doesn't hold up in our society anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:08 AM
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There is no gaslighting. A lot of men DO hate on sex workers. In fact, many will completely invalidate a woman simply because of her profession. Ever heard dudes say "OF detected, opinion rejected" ? The fact slut shaming even exists just shows that a lot of men will hate on women, simply over the idea of them having sex, let alone selling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:59 AM
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This question reminds me of a tiktok I seen where a popular OF model was kissing the walls of her mansion, and the caption was something like, "when thousands of men paid for your house", and the comments were full of livid men, slut shaming her and claiming she'll never find love. I think this is because they are conflicted. Even tho many dudes have no problem jerking it to porn stars and OF models, they generally do not have respect for those women. They are mad 🤬 that women are out here expos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:52 AM
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There is truth to that statement. Unless a woman is asexual, a lot of women do like and want sex, and see it as an integral part of their romantic relationships, so if they aren't enjoying it, then yes, there usually are some intimacy issues between her and her lover. Reality is most men in LTR barely have sex with their woman once the honeymoon phase wears off. How do you know this tho? You seem to have a limited perception of relationships as if the biggest and best time for sex, intimacy, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:48 AM
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Drowning how?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:33 AM
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She's definitely out there. If it helps, I check 6 out of 8 of these things, so I'm sure there are women out there who can satisfy all 8 of your requirements. Lol I'm a follow of r/lawofattraction, and many of the people there share stories of how they manifested their special person, thru scripture and visualization. So if you can think of it, that type of person does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:18 AM
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For me, It's not the money, but the determination and the discipline a man has to achieve the accolades he has and his career endeavors. have never observed the same trait in males It's definitely in males too. It's just reflected differently. A lot of men like to work hard and long because they have fam they support w that $$, and it gives them a sense of pride or they see their paycheck from all their excessive work, and that motivates them to keep going. We see how men feel about money thru t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:08 AM
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You right 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:48 AM
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Wow. Very detailed. I admire that you know exactly what you want. I never knew guys attempted to pick up a woman's scent during something as simple as kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:45 AM
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He's single, emotionally available and stable. Only has eyes for the woman he wants to date, chivalrous and values a woman's needs: emotional, sexual, and physical . This is gonna vary from woman to woman, but these are things I value, and know some women do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:38 AM
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The point is: you can choose to have attention, but it’s not always going to be wanted attention. Or you can choose to get almost no attention at all. But you are attempting to explain a woman's experience from a man's POV. No, we cant choose to have attention. Whether someone looks at us on not is based on someone else's choice to bevauee we cant control their eyes. Many of us will just exist, not trying to be noticed at all and will amass all kinds of attention from men. For example, I wear a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:12 AM
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It was implied by the way you spoke
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:01 AM
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I wouldn't care. As far as his genitals, the dick is all I care about. I'm childfree, so I don't plan to have kids in this life anyway 👶🫷 I can never keep a solid relationship with a woman 'why would a woman want someone like you.' The things we tell ourselves create self fulfilling prophecies. There are definitely women out there who will accept you. You just gotta believe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:00 AM
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No, its not common sense. Everytime women go out on dates with men, many aren't thinking the sole reason is to have sex. Thats not what a true date is. You just want it to mean what you want it mean, because you're a guy who wants to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:50 AM
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Their methods according to you seem to suggest that they're not grasping anything at all. Because you haven't been on dates with women like this. And yes they have because women used to not pay for dates at all. Now, women are learning that men think sex is on the table simply because he paid. When a woman does pay, it communicates she values an egalitarian relationship, and she is setting a firm boundary that she doesn't put out for free meals
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:25 AM
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You did repeat yourself Nope Saying you want loyalty, is not anymore specific than saying you don't want somebody to cheat on you. No one has ever gotten exactly what they wanted by saying what they don't want. Try it out Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:22 AM
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Because your estimate of who she is is very emotional and mine is based on stats pretty much. It's more likely that she's not an outlier than that she is. Yes because you aren't making any real world connections with women, so you're letting the internet's generalized claims control how you feel and think about women, in general. Anyone who is social and connects with people irl doesn't need to use stats to educate them about ppl. That's why you resort to incorrect generalistic claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:20 AM
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Why would I go on a date with someone I didn't want to have sex with? Whether I pay or not, I'm there because I want get laid. So if you said this to women, or made a statement like this in your online dating bio, do you think this would amass a plethoral of options, or would it hinder you from accumulating many opportunities? The goal of a date isn't to have sex with someone, similar to how the goal of a date isn't to score a free meal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:07 AM
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The things you don't want men to do are kinda the same as the things they do do. You repeated yourself in the second and third paragraph. No. I did not repeat myself. Learn the difference. That's not true. The absence of one thing does not mean the presence of another. My therapist taught me this. When it comes to what you want in a companion or anything in life, you HAVE to be SPECIFIC, because the subconscious works based on the affirmative. When a woman says, "I want a man who doesn't cheat o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:53 PM
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It's not about going on a date with someone you don't want to have sex with but rather treating a date as a means to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:34 PM
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I don't agree. But to each their own. Just look at some basic high values people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:27 PM
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The friendzone does not exist. It's a concept men made up because they didn't get the outcome they wanted with a woman. He wanted to move fast, those feelings were not there for her, she set a boundary and now he's throwing a silent tantrum for not getting the sex or relationship that he wanted, because not getting to fuck or date her is just so horrible. They boy who cried "friendzone" And the irony is laughable. The idea of the friendzone is men judging women for their freedom to say "no" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:11 PM
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That's the thing- we aren't a monolith. I and many of other women have never claimed this. Only the ones YOU 🫵 are referring to have. All you said here is that even when women want men who DONT fight, abuse, nor cheat on women, there are many of you who still don't meet that requirement. So idk if that's what you meant to say 😅 Me, personally, and other women who see eye to eye with me, don't want men based on what they don't do but rather we want men for what they can do i.e loyal, emotionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 10:30 PM
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I haven't made any complains. You on the otherhand..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:23 PM
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Lol even the TLDR is too much to read 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:17 PM
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All this just to say a man who's fucked around still thinks he's deserving of a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:54 PM
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Now if we could only get the women who are always complaining that "men only want sex" to realize the same concept... A lot of women already do and that's why many split the bill on the first date. To firmly let that simp know that his offer to pay for dinner isn't an invite to have sex. The only issue is we need MORE women to hop on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:51 PM
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Dating has become transactional for both genders. Just as there are women who show up expecting a free meal, there are men who pay for dates expecting to get laid. The only way around this is to ditch the idea of a traditional date by: Agreeing to split the bill prior to the date Go on a date that requires no money Reserve financial investment for a woman he knows is a keeper after talking and going on free dates And this works in favor of both genders, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:47 PM
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So thats a no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:35 PM
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This just proves how much we live in a world that hates women, because guys really be out here thinking they are exceptional because they don't fight, abuse, or cheat on women. Many don't realize an exceptional, swoon worthy man, does more than treat woman with dignity and respect, a basic human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:32 PM
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This is my hot take: 🗣🔥 A nice/good guy is not outstanding, exceptional, nor swoon-worthy. People should already be treating eachother with dignity and respect. That's a basic human right. Self-proclaimed nice guys are attempting to gain brownie points for doing the bare minimum. These types of guys "finish last" because: the women they are pursuing don't want his type, she wants the "bad boys". Second, if they are a nice/good guy, they are either a doormat or are putting up a facade to get sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:25 PM
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You offering the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:37 PM
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Well you haven't dated all of them, so this comment says more about you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:37 PM
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Choosing to have sex is not consenting to parenthood That's literally the point of sex. Once a man deposits his sperm it's 50/50. If a man doesn't want the possibly of becoming a father then he doesn't need to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:34 PM
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Great qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:36 AM
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None of these men appeal to you the way they do to women because you are a hetero man I don't understand what the problem is. Men all the time on this sub complain that women Chad chase, are only into looks, and want the 666. But now, here you are judging women for being attracted to men who you deem ugly. Doesn't this just go to show that mens' SMV encompasses more than looks. All of the dudes you mentioned have talent and are charismatic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:12 AM
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This logic doesn't make sense tho. You're trying to say that yall define womens SMV, but you're also trying to define mens SWV and what women deem attractive in men. Yes they may be mid, or whatever tf to YOU, but to a lot of women, those dudes have a high SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:49 AM
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Damn. That girl sounds like a hot mess. Sorry to hear she cheated on you. Some of these ppl out here, man need to be talking to therapists instead of dating ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:26 AM
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Yes this 1000%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:56 AM
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👌👌
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:55 AM
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Idk you can't just Google "facts" then let it represent women as a whole. There is a lot of bias in stats and it only represents the small sample size that researchers picked. I think it'll serve you better to actually make real world connections with women and learn what motivates them to do what they do. As a woman, who connects with tons of manh other women, I've personally never met any who represent who you are saying. If anything the ones dont shave just don't give af about female beauty s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:54 AM
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How does this one woman's life relate to this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:52 AM
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Neither. Because even tho men want Madonnas for gfs and wives, they have no problem going to the "whores" for fun times, even tho they shame them. So they are hypocrites. Men like a combo of both, because they do not want prudent wives and gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:41 AM
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More importantly for this specific issue during COVID women shaved just as much as pre COVID, proving women like shaving for themselves as they know it's hygienic How do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:29 AM
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Lol yay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:29 AM
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I did. I said neither. It's not realistic to hate one, but shame the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:35 PM
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Everything women do is not centered around men tho. No shaving =/= unhygienic, but rather No cleaning of the underarms = unhygienic The reasons feminists promote women to not shave armpits is because they are mad that men have a preference Women like this couldn't care less what men prefer The whole point of feminism is to encourage women to decenter men from their lives. Meaning the way they physically express themselves doesn't cater to the male gaze, and traditional womens' beauty standards, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:19 PM
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There are definitely ladies out there who've got it all- beauty, brains, empathetic, compassionate, loyal, confident, but not arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:28 PM
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Right. I love your profile pic BTW 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:25 PM
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Wow! As a single, never married woman, I never knew this was a factor for what makes a marriage thrive. Thank you Very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:21 PM
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Neither. There are no true Madonnas because women are too complex to be saints, and there are no true Whores because women are deep, emotional creatures, who arent meant to strictly fulfill mens' sexual desires nor be degraded by them. It's an unrealistic expectation. A lot of women are combinations of the 2- respectable ladies, who men desire BOTH romantically, and sexually. She respects herself, but also values sex and intimacy as an integral part of a relationship with a man, a "lady in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:05 PM
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Lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:17 PM
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Both genders have bodily autonomy, period. A baby is not made unless a man is in the picture and chose to impregnate a woman. Men have a say in WHO they have sex with. Similarity to how men judge single mothers for their poor choices in who they had sex with, men also are making poor choices when they have sex with women, but are torn on the outcome of the baby. A lot of men just want to fuck, whoever, whenever and however with many not considering if they want to be fathers with the women they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:06 PM
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You don't know her. What boundaries does she have if she's fucking a man she just met, at a party, and she's fucking a dude who has no intentions of commiting to her, and only cares about his dick getting played with? What standards is a man, a woman just meet, meeting in order for her to say "yes i'll fuck him"??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:46 PM
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whether or not children result from sex. Men have zero authority there. Yes men do. They made the choice to spread their seed. A child cannot be made unless a man's sperm was deposited. How does he have no authority. He chose to have sex. Men know women get pregnant. Say you woke up one day and reality had changed so that every time a woman has sex, there's a small chance she will be mandated under threat of imprisonment to provide ~18 years of child support Men only recieve those sentences beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:34 PM
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That's lovely
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:22 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:21 PM
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Not all men are forced fathers tho. A majority of men out here are choosing to have sex, and choosing to cum inside women. The idea of forced fatherhood is you going off topic now, bevause I could easily came at you with a counter point that women are raped by some men, then get pregnant. So that is forced motherhood
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:23 PM
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Sounds very romantic 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:15 PM
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Our sexual market value peaks in middle age because this is when our looks and income balance out to be most desirable. It doesn't peak in middle age, which would be 45-50, it appears to peak at 30-35, then steadily declines for a man. Which makes sense because at 35, a man's sperm quality vastly declines, then at 45 his sperm is geriatric. Usually by this time they have qualities that aren't physically attractive to women, like beer guts, balding heads, viagra dicks, and low sperm quality. In r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:05 PM
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Great list 👌 she's out there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:38 PM
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Interesting video. I never considered that perspective before Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:36 PM
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What are you mentioning children for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:25 PM
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I cant speak on the male experience, as I'm a woman. But toward the end of my entire comment I list a few standards men are held to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:20 PM
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Very wholesome
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:18 PM
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Love it 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:06 PM
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Men have agency having sex. Reproducing children though? None. That's a bodily autonomy issue, remember? I dont think you understand what bodily autonomy is. It's the right to make decisions about ones body, and life without coercion. the main biological purpose of sex is to reproduce. So if a man has agency when it comes to sex, he still has agency when he deposits his seed. That is completely HIS choice to have sex. Thats literally what bodily autonomy is. Let's not act dense now. Seems like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:02 PM
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Yay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:54 PM
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Great set of standards. I hope you meet her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:46 PM
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That's a good set of standards, def not too high
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:42 PM
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That's great 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:27 PM
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Awesome 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:13 AM
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What about a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:12 AM
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Nice 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:12 AM
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Very thorough list 👌 I hope you meet her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:10 AM
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Thanks. I think it's there now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:01 AM
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Ok ill try that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:57 AM
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I'm sorry to hear about it ending that way. That only means some one whom is more compatible with you and accepts you for everything that you are is still out there 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:52 AM
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I have absolutely never thought that “I’m a woman. I’m always right and don’t apologize,” shit was cute. I'm definitely with you on that. Good qualities BTW
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:20 AM
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Sorry to hear about that. The one who got away. How did it happen? If you don't mind sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:15 AM
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I love it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:14 AM
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Sounds very wholesome
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:14 AM
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That's great
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:13 AM
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What edit am I supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:13 AM
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That's good at least 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:05 AM
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Women have it disproportionately better than men generally Female SMV degrades with their youth, meanwhile men peak in the beginning of middle-age How do you think women have it disproportionately better? Why are men still opting in to marriage if that was the case? How does a man's SMV peak in middle age?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:20 AM
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My body, my choice has to do with women having full bodily autonomy opposed to a man getting to make the decisions. Let's not act like men have no agency when it comes to reproducing children. A woman did not accidently fall on a man's dick, then he accidentally came inside of her. It takes 2 to tango. And they same women lack accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:15 AM
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From my perspective, I've noticed dudes who think like this are immature, and do not like women. They only see women in terms of who appeals to their gaze and who is attainable to them. I've noticed these are the groups they consider most unappealing/unattainable: single mothers Independent women who choose to live single hot women, or any type who reject them Old women Overweight women Below average, in appearance, women Any sensible man who genuinely likes women understands the human form is v…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:18 AM
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I just don't understand the issue youre trying to address? Who here said anything about getting married to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:15 PM
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Nah. This mentality is what lead to the uprising of feminist movements in the first place. The original idea of patriarchy, and men must lead, is most reflective or totalitarian ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:09 PM
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It seems more like you're just looking for excuses to complain about women. How does any of what you're saying hinder your first world life?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:03 PM
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Idk what world you living in but the fact any person can go on IG, or any social media platform and see tons of thirst traps of scantily clad women proves that a lot of women support the opposite of what you're saying, and are even capitalizing off of their lack of censorship. And considering modern women typically are more liberal, than men, shows they value the voice of the individual, and progressive ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:01 PM
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You must forget that ppl lie, and bait and switch is a real thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:46 PM
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You must forget that ppl lie, and bait and switch is a real thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:46 PM
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Ok and that's those specific womens prerogative. What you are saying only applies to the women you are referencing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:44 PM
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seems to me that they should've been able to guess that the guy was an abusive, unfit, or unsafe parent, or was unlikely to step to the plate. It always funny to me, men passing off judgements onto the women for not being able to "guess" or foresee the future for how a man will turn out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:36 PM
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That's just biology. Men are generally attracted to wider ranges of women. And the main motivators are that they have vaginas, tits and ass. Most of mens interest in women solely comes from their desire to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:31 PM
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He a'ight. Def above a 3, he just ain't my type
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:23 PM
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Either way, men will still smash
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:22 PM
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Infact most women do this. They've unprotected sex with Chads and raise them as single mom No. Thats a narrative yall like to make up. A majority of women who become single moms were either seriously dating or married to the men they reproduced with. Then the mother either left him because he wasn't safe or was abusive, or the father left because he didn't want to step up to the plate as popular as abortion has been in the past 30 years you really think a majority of women are out here were keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:21 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:16 PM
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Nah. Yall just let the internet tells you whatever If you actually step outside and LOOK at the couples paired up, most of the men are just average everyday looking ppl, with a smaller minority being accessibly handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:15 PM
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Yes God forbid a woman not look hot to your standards and make your pp hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:13 PM
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You haven't heard it because that way of thinking is ludicrous Lol height and the way a man treats a woman are not correlated. A woman can naturally be attracted to taller dudes and just be done with the ONE who treated her like shit, but still want to date tall dudes, but just the ones who respect her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:10 PM
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This literally made me laugh hard as hell 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:03 PM
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Nah it's actually chill there cause it's one of the few places they can go, in peace, where they arent judged or made fun of by men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:03 PM
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How? Because they're not all size 2, weighing 120 lbs in their big adult ages, with big tits and ass? That must be so hard for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:01 PM
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Not really! There's no secret that a lot of men prefer skinny women with big tits and ass. It's a part of the whole reason why flat chested women and those with smaller booties feel insecure, and get breast augmentation and BBLs. We already know what men like, so no, hell would still stay within it's bounds, deep in the underworld.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:57 PM
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There are more beauty standards that exist for women opposed to men, because it is usually the women who are conditioned they have to stay young and beautiful to remain relevant and desirable, especially to men Which is exactly why women take aging harder than men. Men are more encouraged to embrace their grays, hence they are called silver foxes. There is no female equivalent. Even when it comes to being fat, women are held to a higher standard that fat = undesirable, whereas fat Men do not rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:52 PM
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Most men could be a 10/10 at the very least by not thinking like this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:07 PM
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"Why did you pick her? You cannot change her. This is not Build a Bear. You're better off picking a more modest girl, one who you can truly accept. Put yourself in her shoes"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:03 PM
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If anything, things will get even easier for red pillers because a lot of men are going to drop out of the dating game entirely as soon as AI girlfriends become available Women aren't swooning over red pillers tho. And if red pill truly works, wouldn't red pillers be getting women now? If it was so successful, why you believe red pillers have to wait for AI gfs to distract other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:01 PM
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If all men suddenly improved performance across the board all that will change are their standards for men will increase as well, just as it has each generation. I don't agree. I don't think womens' standards ever increased, they've always had higher standards compared to men. In the olden days, women had to marry by necessity, therefore, all a man needed to be considered hubby, was money, honey 😅 This lead men to believe women have no/low standards. A lot of men didn't have to be likeable, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:57 PM
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they are not, it's like saying pregnancy problems are universal, but they hit only (pregnant) women no, it's not. That's not even a good analogy because only women get pregnant, but everyone, regardless of gender or attractiveness, does date. And everyone has some sort of dating problems, including the most attractive ppl. The only difference is all of our dating problems and dilemmas are unique to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:29 PM
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You don't create those feelings tho, but rather they are developed between you and the other person. You can't put a timeline on true love, and deep intimate feelings. It takes a significant amount of time invested to get there. You are most likely describing lust. You do realize those are movies right? Films do not follow realistic timelines, especially when it comes to love stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:30 AM
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So you didn’t know it before? How did you learn? Well yeah. You aren't born innately knowing, you have to learn. I've learned by having family and friends educate me. Plus, I've never been the hookup kind of girl, nor the type who puts out because a hot dude in front of me makes my pp happy. So I've also learned thru observation When you're a woman, you meet all kinds of guys who claim "I like you", and when your top priority isnt sex, many guys weed themselves out because they aren't getting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:24 AM
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I think it depends on the woman. What do you think they are dating for then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:22 AM
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I'm sure I have in a past life It doesn't matter if one is average or not, or a man or not. A average man's dating problems doesn't solely come from him being an average man. Dating problems are universal. Attractive ppl and women experience the trials and tribulations of dating too, it's just life. The problem is some men like that develop a COMPLEX. For a man to claim he's average means he's comparing himself to other men, and spending too much time on how other people perceive him. Then facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:50 PM
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Yes i think many are lovable, but a man who is loveable and truely desires a genuine connection with a woman wouldn't say he wants "a whore". If he just wants a lot of sex, he'll say that instead of using the word "whore". What is meant by a whore? What does that look like to you? so you dont think men are lovable and they should rather have a split partner, instead of a healthy one? I don't see how desiring a mother and a whore is healthy. This is a big ask. Mothers shift a lot of their focus t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:33 PM
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It's problematic because some men who think like this don't genuinely value women. He wants the best of both worlds with the Madonna, and the whore. To say they want a mother means they want a woman who will birth his children, and nurtures her husband/bf and makes a home, but to claim they also want a whore indicates he wants a woman who he deems inferior, someone he can degrade, and have all of his sexual fantasies fulfilled. Meanwhile how is a man compensating? It is possible to meet women li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:56 PM
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but rather, as a gift (commodity) women give to men...in exchange for....? No, we do not think the same. I acknowledge that sex is best when deep feelings are established. I do not see it as a gift, nor something a woman gives to a man. A woman doesn't give sex to a man, it's an experience you share with him. He's not a dog that I'm just throwing a bone to. Women aren't owed relationships! Well obviously. One common thing that does happen tho is women have sex w men under false pretences. It's v…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:17 PM
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Then why are you entertaining them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:01 PM
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get angry when the nice guy boring doormats won't help them after the alpha bad boy leaves them as single mothers. This is a narrative men make up to justify that it was solely the woman's fault for becoming a single mother. Most of the women who do become single mothers were in exclusive comitted relationships with a man, or were married to him. They either left him for being abusive, or an unfit, unsafe parent, or the father choose to not step up to the plate. It typcially isn't from a pump n …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:59 PM
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You need to realize a lot of dad's out here are shitty A lot of dad's simply refuse to take any part in their child's lives. A woman cannot raise a child with a man that does not want to be present. You need to stop running with BS narratives that single mothers just opt into to single motherhood just because they feel like it, and actually look into WHY You do not want to listen. Many women here are giving you answers, but yet you remain ignorant as if all fathers are just wonderful ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:47 PM
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You live online too much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:33 PM
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That's a fallacy. A majority of women who end up single mothers were women who were seriously dating a man/married, and the man either left because he doesnt want to be a father, or she left him because wasnt safe to be around. Historically, if a woman became pregnant by a random dude, many would not carry to full term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:31 PM
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Because it's not about the money. They'd rather accept a man they WANT in their lives, opposed to accepting one they NEED to rely on. You have to realize that a lot of single mothers endured trauma that was solely brought upon by the father of her kids. Many are abusive verbally, physically and/or emotionally, and it puts a sour taste in the mothers mouths and shows them what men are capable of doing. So them living solo is a way to protect themselves and their children, AND shows they'd rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:27 PM
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I'd associate with an average person platonically and treat them with dignity and respect, but no, I wouldn't date or marry an average man. I consider my self an above average woman, and I think it'd be too much for an average man. Average to me means: average in appearance, they follow a lot of the status quos, they do not think deeply nor think outside the box, and do just enough to get by. They are an average lover, average in bed. Not ambitious about anything extreme, and are agreeable. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:52 PM
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This is ONE girl tho. You cannot let ONE anecdotal experience speak for how "they", as in all or most women, behave. All that means is YOU have an easy girl with low standards and no boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:51 PM
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That's a fallacy. I'm a lady I'm not like that at all, and have many girlfriends who are the same. A lot of us already know that all some men want is the cookie, and once you give it to them, they are gone. Therefore, we prefer men who commit to us before doing anything sexual w them. The women before us, and our fathers taught a lot of us well. The red pill is selling you lies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:48 PM
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When a woman is genuinely interested in you, I've noticed they often invite you straight to their bathtub or bedroom. On the other hand, if they aren’t attracted to you, they’ll act like, "Show me what you can do, monkey." They’ll drain your bank account and consume your efforts until you’re burned out—and still, you’ll never be enough. She will become demanding, annoying, and mean. This is a fallacy, and you're conflating womens' sexual interest in a man with genuine emotional interest. As wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:42 PM
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So he keeps scrolling or swiping. He sees a MUCH less attractive woman, maybe at his or slightly below his level. He engages, maybe a message or a like. And MOST of the time he won’t even get reciprocated for that, by a woman whom is often a huge compromise. But sometimes he gets a reply, or god willing even a first date! This is where you're wrong. You are attempting to explain how a woman thinks, and how she goes about selecting mates online, when you truly DO NOT know. You are blaming women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:28 PM
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Every woman is told she’s a queen and a boss and it’s always the man’s fault. You do not know this tho. Historically, women have always received more emotional support from the world around them. Women before us who have seen it all, like our grandmothers, educate us on "boys only want one thing, give him the cookie too soon and hes gone", "when a man commits, he can have all of you, if he doesnt, he can have none of you". There are typically more social groups that give women their spaces that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:57 PM
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It's not like western men are amazing saints, who are romantic and chivalrous either. The western Anglo sphere in general has led to generations of entitled self-serving people with no deep values and traditions. Just fuck them and move on. This is pretty much how western men have always though of women, even during the traditional days when it was taboo to have sex outside of marriage. A lot of men blame women for all their problems while reaffirming they are inferior. Women are damned for anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:37 PM
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No we do not. A man cannot speak on behalf of what all women think or do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:18 PM
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A lot of people who post here are chronically online and idealic. A lot of the judgements they have of men and women are solely based on what social media has sold them, and their anecdotal experiences with a small handful of people. That's exactly why people love to cite sources. They don't actually have a lot of the experience they are referring to in the real world, so they search for articles and statistics that reaffirm what they want to believe. For example- lots of dudes love to claim Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:38 PM
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Well it's quite obvi that any man consuming porn while IN a relationship doesn't improve the quality of the relationship he has with his wife or gf. Similar to how a woman seeking validation and pleasure from men outside of a relationship will similary have negative effects. I don't see why you need hard evidence to prove that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:49 PM
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You obvi don't even like women, so i don't see why even consider dating one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:43 PM
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Some of them reproduce, others don't and accept a childfree life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:27 PM
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Women aren't decentering men as a whole only low value men. That's not decentering then, and I've never claimed women as a whole are decentering men. Notice I specifically say, a certain caliber of women are There are many women out here who aren't entertaining men, they aren't fucking any, they aren't in a rush to date, and are opting in to living their own independent lives where they focus on self, and their gfs and family, and interests and goals. I'm only know this because I'm personally in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:22 PM
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This is just a basic, meaningless answer, because u don't not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:16 PM
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Biology- women are naturally the choosier gender. They have to be. They bare the responsibility of pregnancy and picking a quality mate. Some men have genetics that should not be passed down. Low effort men- a lot of ppl today don't want to get out, and mingle. They flood the dating sites, which puts them at a disadvantage because it's oversaturated with men, most swiping on the same women. Animosity- a lot men don't even like women based on the way they speak. She's a low value whore for simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:22 AM
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these poor suckers can't land even one woman lol, what are you on? This is not that different from what i previously said. "And mens dating problems include not getting to fuck all the women that interest them. That's truly a first world problem" so i don't see how that's gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:42 AM
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But what would that happiness be sacrificed for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:51 AM
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Ok gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:50 AM
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It's more that logical that men would date younger women. It depends on the age difference. From my experience as a younger woman, I've noticed men of all ages claim women in their 20s are the most desirable group to settle down with. However, that comes with challenges because Men of all ages are going for them, so there is a lot of completion and.. Younger women generally aren't checking for older men. they will be valued and appreciated more. Idk about that. Younger women are known for being …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:29 AM
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No. I'm not. I do not use social media for attention and validation. All of my accounts are either private or anonymous. so how tf could I amass attention and validation??? I use it for my art business and connecting with family and friends. A man jerking off to naked women having sex is not even remotely the same. But go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:04 AM
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That's cool. Never heard of it and I'll have to look into it. I guess that is ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:01 AM
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An objective fact is not gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:10 AM
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Then how does one come to the conclusion that all or most women in social media are only there for attention and validation, if those aren't the types you are seeing on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:44 AM
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Not only is the situation and women you describe not a possible option in the slightest for the vast majority of men How is this woman not an option for a vast majority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:41 AM
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So by rejecting porn, you're attempting to be above the norm??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:41 PM
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Well said. You explained this from a persepctive I wasnt aware of that woman you describe is unrealistic, and exceedingly rare. Most men will never be with that woman. Genuinely curious- what makes the woman I described come off as unrealistic? When I described her, the qualities and interests she has are based on my own qualities and things I'm aware that men value in a companion. Plus, what makes her rare? Idk I'm not a man, so I'm not sure what men are working with in quality as far as the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:32 PM
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I can understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:20 PM
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Have you ever seen Joseph Gordon-Levitt's film Don Jon? That film portrays how porn consumption alters a man's psyche and how it affects a man's perception of women and the relationships men have with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:18 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:14 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:14 PM
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I personally know men who don't watch porn, period. Therefore their ability to not watch it doesn't depend on the quality nor quantity of sex they have with their gfs/wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:13 PM
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Hell no. I'm not on social media like that I've family, and friends I've accumulated from k12 and college, and teachers and professors i connect with. I promote my art business thru social media, and am a part of social groups, like childfree and travel groups. I'm not cutting off part of my connection with the outside word just so a dude will give up jacking off to other women. I just wouldn't date a dude who watches porn to begin with. How does social media "give" unrealistic standards in rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:10 PM
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It doesn't matter who they are having sex with. It's the fact yall say one thing, but then do another and expect women to abide by a standard many of you do not hold yourselves accountable to. It's always funny to me how a women is only deemed a hoe after men have been involved with her. Which means men are the source of said trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:02 PM
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This is like 1 step before self-awareness, you almost made it. This literally is self awareness and I didn't even have to fuck around to learn what I'm saying. So I've been made it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:55 PM
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Porn actually is considered a form of emotionally cheating tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:53 PM
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This argument is blatantly false and stupid The claims I shared are based on objective facts. You don't have to personally agree, but it doesn't mean its objectively false nor stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:45 PM
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If women did care about the count, then they would shame promiscuous men and not date them. Yet, we rarely see that happen, so it appears that women don't care about the count. It w Rarely? Lol this is how i know you spend too much time online Lol like do you survey every relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:35 PM
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Yes maybe for the women you are focusing on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:32 PM
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That's awesome Yea i think smut is okay 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:26 PM
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Lol right 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:01 PM
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My ability to get off doesn't depend on a man. If I had a man in my life but we are physically a part I'd keep my promise and stay loyal to him. I have ways of pleasuring myself that do not involve any toys or porn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:58 PM
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👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:50 PM
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That's not how life works tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:50 PM
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Just go. Like you're doing the most rn. There's always gotta be one of yall that always has to pull the woe is me card because you didn't like me calling out something u didn't want to hear so ofc you resort to the "women do this too" mentality. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:58 AM
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That's off topic. allowing women political power was also not normal for most of human history. It's seen as not normal because patriachy typically reserves positions of power like that for men. Porn is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:53 AM
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The main flaw in your argument that these types of women are extremely rare, if they exist at all; most women use sex as a means of extracting resources from men - sure, during their youth most go through a phase of getting railed by every alpha bad boy It's definitely possible. The lady I actually described is based on many of my own internal qualities and other qualities I listed are things I figured men are in to. Yea, maybe a lot of women who are giving it up to alpha dudes later do settle, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:51 AM
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Again that is NOT related to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:16 AM
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I actually didn't think of that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:12 AM
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It is because what you're claiming is not even remotely related. If you wanna talk about hypocrisy: When it comes to sex, men don't even hold themselves accountable to the same standards that they hold women to. Saying they want virgins, or women with an n count of 2, meanwhile they've had sex with like 10+ women, have fwbs, and been in situationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:22 AM
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That's great
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:15 AM
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That's not the same tho. Porn is a type of sex addiction, and people in general use social media to connect with friends and family. You're basically asking a woman to shut off her connection with her outside world and communities she's in. Your only focus is probably the IG baddies and the types of women who set thirst traps. A lot of us aren't those types of girls. But I guess if the type you're dating IS a thirst trap girl then I could possibly see that as valid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:14 AM
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Yes. I prefer a 🍆 over a toy any day. So I'd have no reason to use a toy, especially when with I'm with the perfect man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:05 AM
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When I consciously decided to be a better lover, porn allowed me to learn techniques and apply them (to great effect) Their is instructional porn out there. Don't laugh. Very interesting. I can relate. I do not watch porn for pleasure, but I have watched some instructional videos as well 😆 That's great how self aware you are and how you used it to your advantage to get the most out of real sex and intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:46 AM
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Lol 😆 yea good point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:35 AM
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At least you're honest and self aware 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:32 AM
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That's wonderful. You sound very disciplined
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:31 AM
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yet it didn't stop you from claiming how men and women date collectively as a gender I've never made generalistic claims about how men or women date as a gender, tho. All i did was say it's a lie how some men generalize that women do not value how a man carries himself sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:29 AM
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Has nothing to do with insecurity. No. Porn is not normal. But rather is has been so normalized in our society, many believe that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:15 AM
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What you said has nothing to do with this n count thread tho. You said what you did to serve as a deflection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:12 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:10 AM
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It does. Many reasons It drains a man's body of sex hormones. So then he feels no desire to actually go out, mingle with people, and make emotional connections w women A lot of women don't value having a companion who watches it. So now he's less desirable So it's a catch 22- man watches porn because he's singles, but he remains single because he watches porn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:09 AM
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In many cases, the absence of porn is necessary to have a healthy relationship. If a dude is jacking off to all kinds of women he's sexually attracted to, he's creating very little space for him and his companion to enjoy any intimate or sexual moments. Plus, that's not loyal. This is akin to a woman obsessing over hot male celebrities, and dudes who put thirst traps on IG. So if your gf was touching herself to other men, and playing with toys, you think it's possible to have a healthy, committe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:55 AM
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The majority of young men aren't dating, so I don't know why this is relevant Most men watch porn because they are single, they aren't single because they watch porn. It's relevant because porn is highly addictive, and it can also perpetuate a man's singleness, especially if he doesn't want to be single. Or if he ever gets into a relationship, it'll most likely be a habit that he keeps up that can affect the quality of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:44 AM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:36 AM
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That's wonderful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:34 AM
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That's interesting. Well enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:34 AM
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That's great 👌 🤩
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:33 AM
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I'm asking if you'll give up porn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:32 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:20 AM
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What are the consequences for men sleeping around? STDs, he's spreading his seed to many women, thus creating multiple single mother households, all without an active father (my dad). It shows he has a lack of sexual discipline. It leads to difficulties developing healthy attachments. It causes men to see women as objects of lust. It indicates he is easily seduced by many women, and is non committal. Continously sleeping around indicates he does not have the patience nor the emotional intelligen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:16 AM
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Riddle me this: If men are encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible, whereas women are encouraged to keep their n counts low, how do men expect to raise their numbers without also raising a woman's n count? Do some of yall be fuckin other men on the DL.. or do you just not think that when you are fucking a woman you are raising eachothers count together???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:06 AM
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And where do you get this information? Online? How many ppl are "many" women? I know you are talking outta your ass because in a world of 4 billion women, "most" totals more than 2 billion women. You have no idea what over 2 billion women desire in a man, sexually. You're just making generalized claims that support the old misogynistic belief that men can fuck around without any consequences, whereas women can't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:01 AM
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I'd never be with a guy like this. He is not my type. I want a man who IS romantic, sexy and handsome, chivalrous, high libido, and can destroy me in the bedroom, and desires to have sex at least 2x a day. Who also has goals, and is emotionally and financially intelligent. But if I ever was with a man that is like this, I'd wonder what it was about me that makes him feel he cannot do all of those fun things w me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:32 AM
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No. I was responding to the other dude's claim that several married men he knows do not communicate w their wives due to the fear of conflict, are not fulfilling the convenant bond they've made with their wives, even if they feel they are doing a duty by staying in the marriage. Never did I say anything is inherently mens' fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:55 AM
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Exactly. Men online all the time say "we need to know your body count, and if it's high we aren't committing to you" but irl every man who has ever taken me seriously and wanted to be with me romantically has never once asked about my sexual past or asked how many guys I've been with. Ironically, only the dudes who wanted casual sex with me and those who did not take me seriously were concerned about other guys, and how many I've been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:40 AM
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Why do dudes attempt to make rules for both genders? Men: "we desire sexually inexperienced women who keep their n count low, or we won't commit to them" Also men: "men and women are different, our n count doesn't matter. We can have as much sex as we want, and women do not care about our past" As a member of the female human population, "the lie detector determined that was a lie"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:31 AM
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Ok that's the thing. THOSE women do not care, but THOSE women's claims do not represent the general population of women. So maybe they dont care, but I personally do care, and know many other ladies who do not want to date, or marry the town pogo stick. Those ladies can enjoy and deal with the Don Juans, the ones with many gfs, the ones spreading stds, engaging in fwbs and situationships, but I and other ladies care about gentlemen who haven't been inside many, many ladies. And that's what you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:17 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:46 AM
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Yes, i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:19 AM
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Lol sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:17 AM
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I believe in the covenant. It’s for life. A part of maintaining that convenant bond comes with honoring the vows exchanged, tho. When a man fears communicating his feelings to his wife, or resorts to cheating, neglect, abuse etc, then he is not honoring "to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish" But I definitely understand what you're saying tho, just adding my 2 cents
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:10 AM
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Then why get married if being a husband is seen as suffering? If married men are, on average, happier compared to single men, and live longer wouldn't this mean that the single men are suffering more? Emotionally, because they have no one to look forward to come home to after working a long day, and do not have a companion who motivates him to go back out and continue working? If a man is miserable in a marriage and resorts to cheating, neglect etc, then what word is he honoring? All of those vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:40 AM
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What duty is staying in a miserable marriage fulfilling? Marriage isn't an obligation that one must fulfill, it is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:32 AM
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The happiest demographic of people are married men and women, and it has been reported that married folks also have increased life expectancy, on average. Many men's fear of loneliness doesn't come from them having shitty wives who they choose to stay with, but rather married/taken men do not want to go back to a life where they have to do everything for themselves. They thrive on having a companion who greets them at home after working a long day. They thrive off of the domestic labor a woman d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:04 AM
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Social media to women is basically attention porn; women enjoy getting validated by men online. It is like a drug to them. Asking a woman to give up social media is like telling her to give up a powerful drug. Most women are not going to give up social media. The solution is for men to just not date women, period until they work their insecurities, and figure out why they have an obsessive need to control a woman's life, who THEY agreed to date. I use FB to keep in touch with family and all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:06 PM
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No it's not. A lot of us ladies value romance regardless if the man is hot or not. The problem with men is they generalize way too much as if all or most women think/want the same things. Then when they are told anything outside of that they think they've discovered a plothole in the fabric of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:41 AM
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No. I'm not a man so I'm not aware of a man's experience when it comes to being attracted to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:07 AM
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If a man ever wants anything real with a woman he's not gonna get it by putting a facade or doing anything that detracts from his authentic self A lot of women do like romance. Thats exactly why dudes who dont have a lot of sex options resort to dinner dates w women just to have sex with them, because they know without romancing them they wouldn't get the sex Romance is also how a lot of marriage thrive Women don't give a shit about anything else if you're hot enough. The halo effect isnt gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:03 AM
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What lies are you told?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:33 AM
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All men? I don't think all are. If all men were abused by their wives divorce would be initiated more by men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:31 AM
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Then what are TRP men mad at concerning women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:11 AM
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Either way. All you're proving is you're original argument is null and void. Men and women are both oppressed, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:55 AM
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No they're do not. So maybe yes, but Not at the extent that it happens to women tho Men do not have to worry about getting date raped Men do not have to worry about how they are going to reject a man, without worrying about their safety Men do not have to worry about if dressing up for a date is Going to get them harassed or stalked by the men around them First, it was women are not oppressed. Now you are saying men and women go thru same the same abusive behavior that oppresses them. So which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:53 AM
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First, why make a post like this on Thanksgiving day? You can't tell an entire gender if they are oppressed or not. Oppression is a spectrum. So yes, women have their freedoms in the west, but that doesn't mean they aren't free from misogyny or abuse at the hands of a man Underage girls are still abused and sexually assaulted by their step fathers/bfs of their mothers, or men who are strangers to them. Where are those girls' freedom? Women are still harassed Women are berated by men who can't ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:21 PM
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No I didn't. All you did was claim that women are settling for you. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:37 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:35 PM
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men have started to realize with women not lying doesn’t mean being honest. That doesn't even make sense. Yall will do whatever you can to believe that all women want out of men is just money, and just because she's not dating a man with tons of money shes settling. Yes let's completely ignore that women also care about the emotional connection they value with men and their compatibility So congrats, any woman that chooses you or any average everyday working class man over a millionaire is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:56 PM
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He is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:36 PM
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Life's a bitch for everyone, but in ways that are unique to each individual, and in ways that are universal to the human experience. You only think life is on easy mode because of your limited perception that women recieve all kinds of opportunities for money, attention, love and sex from men. Men aren't our entire world tho There's a lot of women who aren't even on men's radar. Men all the time say how they lay no mind to older women, fat, and ugly ladies. So is their life on easy mode too. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:27 PM
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K enjoy. Glad I ain't a man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:12 PM
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You are better off asking the girl you personally know that did this This is most likely the answer... Why do you think a guy isn't good enough but he is still your property to control? Is it because you love the attention too much to let some other woman have it? Could just be an insecure attention whore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:07 PM
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If all women are gas lighters, then why is a MAN choosing to be under a WOMENS discussion post? Misery loves company
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:02 PM
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No they're not. Get help If you actually read the responses, you'd easily see your claim is wrong because there is no gaslighting here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:00 PM
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Why assume the worst of women? When really a lot of the answers coming in are reasonable responses from sensible women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:47 PM
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If he's a scrub, I'm not dating him, and I do not date men FOR money tho. I seem to attract men who are at least at the same level as me with similar life experiences: they are renting an apt, earn a living, some have gone to college (I attended college), others have chosen to enlist in the military (I was briefly in the army). As long as he can afford his own cost of living and can keep his head above water, that's the least I care about. If he has more money, that's a bonus, but I'm not on a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:24 PM
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It's never okay to string anyone along. This is akin to women saying "young women should string along established older men (aged 35+) who want to date women in their 20s, by taking what she can get from him simply because he's a 🤡 for thinking a young woman would ever seriously commit to him, over a younger man in her age group" Your claim is rooted in misogyny: You assume every woman succumbs to "your biological clock is ticking" fear mongering And you assume women that have, utilize the bait …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:07 PM
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I understand what youre saying. Yes, a lot of men have that desire, but the reality is a lot of women do not want casual sex with all of the men who want it with them. Thats the point I was making earlier. And I dont think it has anything to do with taking back that rhetoric, but rather women aren't attracted to the men that want them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:09 AM
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Come again?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:36 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:35 AM
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Yes. I've done it. I typically had lower standards for guys who were casual sex options, i.e at least somewhat physically attractive. When it comes to husband material, I have higher standards, i.e respectful, gentleman, good in bed/values my sexual needs, romantic, loyal, trustworthy, handsome, funny, dedicated and strong. That's why I don't understand why men think the guys we fuck are chads and men whom don't want us, but we want them, then settle for a "beta male" as a safe option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:58 AM
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We aren't tho. If men don't even want to date a woman with a n count he can't accept, then that means hypothetically he's committing to a woman he does trust and knows will be loyal to him. So then why does a man feel he needs to protect a woman from other men if he supposedly weeded out the high n count girls and picked someone he can accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:44 AM
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Being "protective" is almost always an act of guarding her from other men, which is made a lot easier when she doesn't have a habit of being open to sexual interactions with many men. A man wouldn't need to guard a woman from other men when they both loyal and trust eachother. Relationships aren't about guarding, but rather monogamy and comittment Why is a man even dating a woman who easily opens herself up to other men? He's basically creating situations where he feels he must protect her, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:25 AM
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How are the 2 even related? When women want someone protective, that does not mean they want a jealous man. Jealousy reflects possessive nature and feelings of insecurity. I've dated a man who was very protective of me. He let me know i was safe with him, and that he respected me and wanted me to trust him. And he never once asked me about previous relationships with men or about n count. He knew the kind of woman I was based on how I carried myself. Protective is standing up for her i.e if his …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:02 AM
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Ironically I've noticed the opposite. I (28F) live just south of Seattle, WA and attended 1 speed dating event for people 25-39 y.o. and upon singing up, ALL the mens seats full, but the womens seats were still open. While at the event, the men out numbered the women, and since then I've been on their mailing list for future events. Almost everytime they have an event, I receive an offer for a free complimentary seat to fill because there is never 100% turnout for women. But to answer your quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:41 PM
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when they do, being used for their money. I can't fathom that concept. How can a man be used for his money when he chose to spend it at his own volition? This is akin to women complaining that a man used her for sex, simply because she chose to put out, but didn't get the outcome she wanted. Even in the woman in the video wasn't complaining that hard. Her worst date was a 7.5, mostly because she doesn't like dinner dates I didn't interpret her rating of those dates as complaints tho. She definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:18 PM
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Watching the tiktok, the creator comes off as very desirable. I agree that one of her dates arriving late is a turn-off, but overall, she seems to have good experiences with men who are putting effort into exceptional and creative dates. All of which were above average as she rated them no less than a 7 The paint and sip, the speak easy, and that spa date are all GOALS 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:48 PM
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And mens dating problems include not getting to fuck all the women that interest them. That's truly a first world problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:19 PM
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Yes there is, just read what women here in the comment sections are saying. They all basically saying they consider the men they swipe on holistically Stats aren't reliable sources of info tho. You obvi live in an echo chamber and just look for anything that confirms what you already want to believe. So you aren't reading to learn, you're just reading to respond what you already want to say Also looksmatching isn't even a reliable metric becuase you cannot quantify attraction. It's just a made u…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:12 PM
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Men aren't doing well on dating apps and irl solely based on their looks, tho. Women value quality, over quantity- they value looks in conjunction with deeper, more holistic qualities. Also since when is attraction and sexual interest not the same thing? Since the beginning of time, for women This is what i mean by "men love the women they are attracted to, and women are attracted to the men they love" Men, in general, seem to conflate their attraction to a woman with their sexual interest becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:45 AM
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Women go to dating apps for dreams and lust, the apps can’t tell her much about these men like in person so it’s limiting. I think a majority of men go there for lust, more than women. Most of the mens' profiles are low effort attempts to sell themselves, and most are always dtf, while a minority are actually looking to seriously date. I believe a lot of women who go on OLD are looking for things deeper than attention, and to fulfill lustful thoughts. A lot of women commenting here all explain h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:17 AM
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That would lead to the opposite effect. Women are naturally the pickier gender. No amount nurturing will change that. Whenever men see slutty and promiscuous women, the first thing many say is "fatherless behavior" Obvi this doesn't apply to all women, but typically women who experience little to no emotional investment from their fathers, they are actually less picky with the men they allow into their lives. They may have less boundaries and lower standards for what is required to gain access t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:52 AM
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So you like gray-haired women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:35 PM
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Obvi Sara, but only in the way of "I enjoy fucking her", not "I truly value her" She is deemed the cool girl, and you briefly reflect on her life, and even claim her slutiness is "kinda cool". Whereas the wife is compared to Sara, and only seen for everything she doesn't do, in terms of trad gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:22 PM
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Because women are naturally the choosier gender and attracted to lower ranges of men Online dating is really only set up to prioritize the male gaze, but overall, this hurts men because it causes them to get overlooked. Men seem to love the women they are attracted to, whereas women are attracted to the men they love. Women look at men hollistically, and select based on their emotional connection to them i.e. sense of humor, personality, compatibility, how emotionally resilient he is, hygiene an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:53 PM
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Did they publicly proposition you with witnesses, and did you say yes? If not, it's still low value. It does matter because I declined all 3. But enough about me, let's talk about you. Please, tell me about the lovely lady, or ladies you have in your life. How many people are you casually fucking, or dating? Do you have a wife, who loves you and is committed to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:25 AM
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If that man doesn't find enough value in you to truly proposition you for marriage, it means low value. Nope. A woman's value isn't based on a mans choice to marry. That's like a woman saying if a man gets little to no opportunities for sex, then he's low value. So then according to your logic, I'm high value then, I'm only 28 and have already received 3 marriage proposals in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:41 AM
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In your scenario you made up, the ppl weren't seriously dating tho. All they did was have casual sex, but yet you think he's deserving of gf or wife treatment. I already said the man of my dreams is someone I'm in love with a committed to, so thats the only scenario I'd have sex with a man in. Low value women see no value in men besides dick, money, and attention. You're going to run with whatever narrative you want to believe because where did I ever say a man is only worth dick, money and atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:32 PM
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So then, why ask ladies a question if you're just going to pick a part how we choose to live? You said "man of your dreams," and the man of my dreams has agency, so he's not being dragged into the kitchen!! Me and the man of my dreams take turns cooking for each other, and cooking TOGETHER. So clearly your survey was in bad faith. Bevauee I'm sure if I said I'll take my 🍑 into the kitchen and prepare a meal for him you wouldn't be complaining. In your scenario all a man did was have sex with a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:54 PM
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Lol yes a man telling a woman what me and other women want in men. Once again what women have told you exactly what you're claiming? That’s why musicians, Rockstar, athletes, rappers, djs, professors attract all types of women and are rarely single Most women aren't dating those ppl tho. Everyone knows ppl go to them for clout, status, money and just to fuck. It's always funny dudes using celebrities to support their claim. Just shows how you don't actually speak to women in the real world, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:59 AM
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Women say all the time, and they have told me that they want a man who is confident, bold, ambitious, and is good at flirting and socializing So where in any of those words does that mean they wabt a complete player, or Don Juan, a man who has touched many women? What women have personally told you they want men who've have multiple gfs, been in a ton of fwb, and situationships? This is all laughable bevause I'm a lady, and connected with other ladies in ways that you are not and never in my lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:52 PM
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For me to have sex with a man and wake up to him, I'd have to be in love and committed to him. So upon waking up to eachother, we'd have sex first, then go to the kitchen and prepare breakfast together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:42 PM
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because women don't care about a man's past. Because most Women are okay with a man that has had twenty girlfriends and a bunch of fwb and one night stands. What a load of misogynistic bullshit. I'm a lady and every woman I've met in my damn life has never said they want men who are Don Juans and basically have no sexual discipline, and been inside any and every woman. What women have personally told you they desire a man like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:13 PM
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But as long as they keep demanding egalitarian this and acceptance that then it's only fair to do the same back. lol Well you can't demand that. You're basically saying now that women are lawfully equal with men at the social level, you now want women to alter their biological so you can get the full benefits of them being equal with you in terms of access to sex. And no, it's not "fair to do the same back" it just makes you look pathetic and whiny. Women don't have to fuck men they don't want o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:09 PM
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Yall need to drop this 50/50 tit for tat mentality, as if everything men do women should do too. Men and women are not hardwired to be the same in that sense. Men aren't being "generous" for generally having lower standards. You're basically saying it isn't fair that men have a lower bar for what is required for them to have aex with women, as if women should equally lower their bar to the same level. No! women cannot afford to have sex with every man, the way yall have sex with every woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:14 PM
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Male sluts collectively let everyone in on the fun. Or instead of trying to spread so much hate, why not just acknowledge the biological differences between men and women. Females in ALL animal kingdoms are naturally the more choosy gender. Just think, they bear the responsibility of childbirth and passing down mens generits to their offspring. A lot of men out here do not have genetics worth passing down, nor do a lot of men who are out here fucking women have the means or the interest in suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:06 PM
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You speak as if this only applies to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:45 PM
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These women are celebrating their accomplishments regardless of how big or small. Those are decisions they made that feminism afforded them. I'm sure you'd be out here celebrating too if you were a woman, lol cause I know I did graduating from a State university w honors in STEM. Women don't have to do miraculous things in order to celebrate themselves. You're trying HARD to judge the quality of womens' accomplisments. Just because grateful they are contributing members of society and not govern…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:30 PM
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No. We'd only reject the players and the Don Juans There's a saying that goes: Men love the women they are attracted to Women are attracted to the men they love What I've observed amoungst my lady friends and peers is that we typically are attracted to men based on our holistic views of them, opposed to isolated factors. So, for example, if a man is a virgin, we will remain attracted to him when qualities like a good sense of humor, great morals and values, exceptional character, and compatibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:08 PM
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The difference is while any woman could be a slut, only a tiny minority of men have the ability to sleep around like that. They either have natural genetic gifts, or hard-earned attractive qualities developed over time. Right. I guess the problem I have with slut shaming is it's mostly a term reserved for women, and it's ironic because the Onus is placed on them even though it is men who give women easy, and abundant options for sex. But I understand where you're coming from. So I'm glad we can …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:46 PM
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Yes a post.. with generalized information about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:46 PM
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When a sexually confident woman wants to date, she’s temporarily promiscuous. They don’t land men by being total prudes. It is a catch22 for women, so they underreport. That's not even true. Why do you keep speaking on behalf of us. You're looking at it in extremes of a prudish woman vs a promiscuous slut. A woman doesn't have to be promiscuous to land a date with a man. A woman can simply exist, and the offers will come to us. We don't necessarily have to wear anything gaudy or provocative nor …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:30 PM
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They get quite nice looking women though, I don’t think all of them are also sluts. A slut is a slut regardless of how you see it. If a woman did that same shit, and people saw her with several quite nice-looking men, every dude would be ready to DRAG her, slut shame her, and claim she's recreational use only and to never wife her. The double standards are crazy. That's exactly why this is a man's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:21 PM
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This is the 1st time I have posted. I chose Red Pill simply because of The Matrix. Lol... That's awesome. That means you're a true red piller
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:04 PM
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Youre not even a woman tho. You're trying too hard to speak on behalf of women, their experiences and what they want. A lot of what you're saying about them is not accurate and you are just living thru what you see your buddies doing and stats. There’s 5 times as many single women consistently getting with the top 5% of men. Dating women share these men. This is why women say dating sucks, they want the top men to commit to them. No bro. You are conflating women participating in hookup culture w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:47 PM
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Yes. This is misogyny at play here. You only believe them because yall celebrate that gross ass shit. Even tho you really have no proof of how much they could be exaggerating. Doesn't matter if they're an athlete or not. Men who fuck sluts and hoes are equally sluts and hoes. So no, that's not a badge of honor. Maybe to yall dudes yea, but really, that's hella disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:24 PM
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Well what do you expect. Men can't have it both ways. Many of you choose to shame women for having sex they enjoy, even tho men want casual sex with them. Which puts women in a catch 22, because not only do men want women to put out for low effort and non committal men, but they are also told their value for anything serious depends on their n count low. So women just do as they please, because ladies are learning many straight men don't like women, period, and will shit on them over everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:20 PM
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Dude you type like a 12 year old that got held back 3 grades randomly capitalizing everything Thank you My point is that people often get together or even married despite not being looksmatch due to things like money. That isn't what you said earlier tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:11 PM
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women looks for commitment with little sex As a lady i can assure you this is Hella wrong. You can't generalize an entire gender of ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:10 PM
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I never said that. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:08 PM
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This is how i know you're out of touch with reality because you are trying to use celebrities as examples, Elon doesn't even have a wife currently and if you Google his divorces, his ex wives received million dollar divorce settlements. Which shows why having money does not truly get you the girl. Melania doesn't even love Donald. She's a 50-something year old, naturalized American citizen, married to an almost 80 year old SEXIST, PEDOPHILE, bigot and convicted FELON, billionaire. Now out of all…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 02:28 AM
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But who do you PERSONALLY know tho, who gets 1000 matches per day AND is a pedophine or rapist??? Thats what I'm asking. This is how I know you get 0 matches on OLD. People do not get 1000 matches per day, especially men. Maybe 100 or so, but those apps are 85% men. How can a man amass 1000 matches per day when the demographic is only 15% women? The math isn't mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 02:11 AM
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but I never understood the hate for women with blue hair That's funny as hell. I literally have blue butterfly locs as we speak, and whenever I get into debates with conservative men, or dudes who just have a problem with liberated women, their insult always has "blue haired" at the beginning of their insult, like "blue haired degenerate" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:56 PM
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Why do male model tier guys get literally a thousand women a day despite openly admitting to being "grapists", and "pea doughs"? Bro you need to drop this narrative. You just got done saying this to me the other day, but instead of it being male models, it was the hot dudes on online dating sites. So obvi you are just making this up. What top tier male models do you personally know who are pedophiles and rapists who ALSO get 1000 women a day? Do you hear yourself? It is not humanly possibly for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:46 PM
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overall it’s just social media in general Genuinely curious - how is social media the main culprit for why dating sucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:25 PM
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Not only are women not “oppressed,” they have abundant privilege while men are the ones truly suffering. Anyone who denies this at this point cannot be trusted. Generally speaking, women have always had abundant privileges because men are attracted to wide ranges of women. This is just biology and all a part of mate selection. I think men know this because this is part of the reason why patriachy and the oppression of women were established in the first place. Men wanted to be the ones in contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:22 PM
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There's usually something else making up for looks mismatches like money Those are just gold diggers then. How can a man truly be happy with a woman, knowing the major reason he pulled her is because he has money? Thats ain't love right there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:55 PM
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Yess [maniacal laugh] Those types of men never think about how a lot of them dont become silver foxes, nor consider the fact women are desirable throughout life 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:28 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:28 PM
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Oh my
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:19 PM
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So what difference does the date make? I think if a woman is willing to have sex with a man she barely knows after the first date, it is because they at least want to be romanced and treated like a lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:19 PM
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So what difference does the date make? I personally think there is no difference if a man buys a lady dinner or not. If a woman is willing to put out for a man she barely knows, on a first date, with a man who is not committed to her or has never indicated he has interest in committing to her, a lot of times the dinner wasn't the magic key that unlocked her pussy, she was already dtf she just got a free date out of it, because ladies desire romance. Ladies of that caliber have convinced men to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:17 PM
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Right, but a man hoping for sex on a first date is not an optimal way to determine if someone is worth committing to. And now that complicates things because a woman is giving it up to a man whom she barely knows and doesn't even know how truly compatible they are, or if he's even worth giving the cookie to. A lot of guys have that post nut clarity and learn they truly weren't into the girl, they were just horny then they bounce, and from a woman's perspective she went through all that for nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:41 PM
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I'm fed up with their bullshit; Like goes with like in that sense. If you're the type to just use a date as a means to get access to sex i wouldn't be surprised if women are tired of that bs too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:59 PM
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Most women don't want sex without commitment Good on them Taking a woman out on a date isn't committing to her tho. It's just a date, and a lot of times right after they get what they came for they bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:56 PM
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Men just prefer less experience women because they are like this. Stop trying to shame preferences, men also don't like fat women, and shaming that has not worked so far. Yes, because God forbid a woman dares to not look sexually appealing to men, so shaming their bodies is totally justified. You go, Glen Coco. That's a generalization that men prefer less experienced women, and many of us already know dudes think like that because they can't stand to have a woman who possibly had better w someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:48 PM
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We will immediately stop treating women like they are for sale the very moment that women stop acting like they're for sale. Trash mindset. We? Buddy I don't care what you, and other men with that mindset do. My type is GENTLEMAN, the men who have respext for ladies, and don't treat them like they are for sale simply because of hoes, and gold diggers who DO treat themselves like they are for sale. That's like a lady saying she will stop using men for free meals, and stop wearing provocative clot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:51 AM
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I'm saying what if all of the women you give your seed to become pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:58 PM
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And what if they become mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:32 PM
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Very well put Do I approach you and say “Hey, I thought it would be nice if we have sex in a hotel room nearby. What do you think about it?” I've had a situation happen before where a dude told me "I'm interested in going home with you" which I knew meant he wanted to have sex. I respected him for his honesty, but the sex wasn't going to happen, because that wasn't my intent that early in knowing the guy. But if I had sex with a man, it wouldnt be because he treated me to a dinner, it be because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:30 PM
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Well put
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:55 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:52 PM
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This is gonna be blunt but if you don't like dating fuckboys, start approaching men. Why do you assume I'm only entertaining fuckboys? And I dont have to approach the men, they always approach me. This is all a part of the process of dating as a woman. I'm approached my several men, all who claim they want to date me. Receiving many offers comes with filtering thru those options to determine whom is most compatible with us, and who is most honest about their dating intentions. In the beginning y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:49 PM
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Thank you 😭😊
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:16 PM
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You're viewing it as transactional Nope. The guys who hope for sex are. When there are men who take us out, and a date means a date to them, where we go out, then it ends with no one trying to go to anyone's house, that is a true traditional date. The guys who ask us out on a date secretly hoping we have sex with them, without ever saying that, then hoping for us to read their minds are the ones who see dating as transactional --> I pay, on the condition I get sex. Thats why they complain theyve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:15 PM
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Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:20 AM
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Do you think men expect mindblowing sex from someone they barely know? Thats a womans way of thinking. No. Why are you generalizating how a woman thinks, when that's not what I was saying. Any sensible person knows when you just meet someone the sex is only mediocre at best. For it to be deep, meaningful and truly pleasurable is when you're invested and committed to someone. Which requires actually knowing the person Your whole argument is "men should putnwomens needs before their own" just beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:18 AM
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You're a man. You don't get it because sex is the only thing you are prioritizing. Regardless that's simp behavior and that is the hill I choose to die on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:08 AM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:14 AM
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There's no point in going out on a date, and even wasting money, if there is no intention to actually date. Ppl have time that they don't want wasted. Would you think it's deceitful if a woman took an interest in you, and made you think she wants to date you, then you took her out, only to learn she was giving you attention solely to get a free meal out of you. A lot of these men lie. Some build you up, make you think they are all about you, call you every day, ask you if you are emotionally ava…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:10 AM
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, but taking a woman out on a date and trying to smash after is perfectly reasonable. Because you're a man. When you're lady, with an interest in traditionally dating a man, but a guy u just met is already trying to get you into bed it's a huge turn off and slimy The sex will be mediocre at best, and then considering the fact we have to deal with being slut shamed and the possibility of getting pregnant, it's definitely not reasonable, and the dude could have STDs for all we know. Many ppl end u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:47 AM
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That's great 😃 What do you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:59 AM
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I've never said "most men" I'm asking about a specific demographic - those who only want sex, and have no intentions to date, but blur the lines by taking women out on a traditional date. Throughout my entire post and even in the title I definitely indicate I'm speaking about "some men", not most. I'm well aware men are not a monolith and that they all have different dating intentions with women. So what I'm asking is not a misnomer 🧐 when I'm asking about a specific demographic of men who do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:58 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:00 AM
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You do realize not all babies are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:10 AM
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I understand you think it's harder for men, but it's not necessarily easy for women out here either. Rather dating is generally difficult for both genders, but in different ways. Men generally approach dating as quantity over quality and they are tasked with casting a wide net because they are attracted to wide ranges of women. However, expanding your pool to hundreds of women involves the risk of hundreds of rejections. Whereas women value quality over quantity and are tasked with filtering thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:54 PM
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I don't think it's rare tho. I often see an attractive woman who could easily pull many dudes, and they are dating or married to an average looking man, and I also see the reverse. Idk if just don't see how one can quantify their attraction to someone by comparing their attractiveness to others. Most people pair up based on how they feel about that person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:23 PM
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Yeah, because you, or women in general can afford to admit it, right? So I can't say that women feel indifferent about yall, but yet you can accurately say how billions of women you've never met or will ever meet actually HATES a bunch of men they have never met, and will never meet? Wow While the majority of men need to act like NPCs So wtf do you want here?? Everyone treats everyone like a NPC. It ain't like every woman in public is out talking and having fun with eachother and men arent doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:30 PM
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I'm asking if you personally believe there are leagues of attraction level and do yourself and others attempt to date within your league?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:03 PM
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Username checks out. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:46 PM
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So what does that look like to you irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:27 PM
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That's great. I'm glad you're one of the sensible dudes out there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:25 PM
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The pedophiles and rapists get those women and girld because they TARGET them before getting thrown in JAIL Men realized that women hate the vast majority of men for simply existing, because women are sexually repulsed by the vast majority of men Nope. You're applying dude logic here. Men are the ones who'll treat women like shit simply because she dared to not look attractive to him (i.e she's overweight, she didn't dress sexy, she's below average in appearance) I can guarantee you most women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:19 PM
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So basically you believe attractive person goes with attractive? Average goes with average? And below average goes with below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:58 PM
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Do you believe in looksmatching?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:37 AM
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Men seem to not like overweight women, but if you ever get a woman who loves you enough to birth yalls children, will you still love her if she gains weight during her pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:16 AM
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Yes we already see this all the time irl. Men want to fuck the hot girls, but then settle for average to a lil bit above average as a safe option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:10 AM
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An observation cannot be sexist. Plus I never said ALL men, I said A LOT. And the fact u mock me is exactly what I mean by a lot of men are horrible. Yall show us everyday why we are better off with out yall in our lives because you choose to be shitty ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:43 AM
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Dudes of all ages love to say women in their 20s are the most desirable age group to settle down with because of their youthful appearance and fertility. They love to tell us we are expired over 30 while thinking they age like fine wine. They think they can just go pluck any 20-something up simply because he has money, but in reality, many of us young women are not even checking for older men. They love to overlook that once they are 35+ it's not safe to reproduce with them because their sperm l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:40 AM
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Yes. A few things I notice are: Woman claims she prefers a single, and independent life. Men project their own fear of lonliness by fear mongering her that she'll die alone. The solution is to focus on women who DO want to currently build a relationship with a man. When a woman has a set of standards and good qualities she desires her potential bf/husband to meet, men say her standards are TOO high, and she's better off getting a cat, even tho they ARE attracted to her. The solution is to either…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:07 AM
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Yea but you don't fuck your male friends now do you She doesnt need to. A female friend doesn't owe a male friend her body tho, just because he's horny. Many of yall need to stop doing that trying to blur the lines or friendship and sex partner Either find a solid FWB or just enter into a relationship with a woman whonwill have consistent sex with you. Many of yall are low effort, you want the sex that comes with a relationship, but dont actually want the relationship itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:56 AM
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That's odd to hear something that was even said. Ive already invested in years of therapy. Lots of men are still horrible and many women can attest to this. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:45 AM
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Because you're a man. Then why did women have to EARN their rights?? There are some pretty horrible things I've endured from men who felt they were entitled to my body, and felt I'd was below them. So hush trying to tell women what they know. You don't know my damn life and some of the shit men have tried to put me thru. Yea we live in the west and have our freedoms but that doesnt mean men aren't still trying to over power us, abuse and neglect us. So no I'm not victim mongering. I'm just tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:19 AM
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Not really, the most they're doing is marketing themselves in a high demand market for sex. They just exist and men go to them throwing money at her, that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:16 AM
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That's not really a flex to advertise men are soo desperate, their type is basically just, girl. A man causes his own problems doing that. At that point he needs to be honest with himself and either ditch the apps or work on his approach
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:15 AM
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Those 2 things aren't even comparable tho. Like, you're comparing a man's preference for a clean shaven vulva, to a man's face. It's Hella sus for a man to give af about a having a hairless vulva when she's a grown ass woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:13 AM
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Men are the same. They want the most promiscuous women when they wanna fuck, but now when it time for marriage a high n count man thinks he's deserving of a virgin or low n count woman, as if she wants a man whose been inside many women. People in general are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:09 AM
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No surprise there. She's literally a skinny, blonde white woman. All qualities that many of our societies deem the epitome of beauty. So ofc you think shes the best looking, that's what you've been sold to believe is most beautiful. So congrats, the media has done it's job
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:05 AM
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Yall can have your own beliefs about overweight women, but the whole idea overweight women disgust men is getting old. Also what is this obsession with looksmatching? Like idk if yall just live online or what, but I see a lot of couples and know some too, where the man is relatively fit, and his gf or wife is a bit heavier. Men all the time say they just want a loyal woman whom appreciates them, is his peace and has sex everyday with him and so a "match" isn't purely based on looks. I just think…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:00 AM
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Yea there's that, but men don't live in a society that seeks to oppress them, nor convince them that they are inferior while also telling them they are the downfall of all women. Like men and women both do and say shit that hurts eachother, no one is a saint
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:49 AM
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Women can’t have it both ways! They can’t prefer a 6’ tall man if they aren’t 6’. They can’t prefer square jaw and broad shoulders unless they have that. What the hell? Excuse me but masculine men don't want masculine looking women tf. Lol I can't believe you actually chose to TYPE this AND send it. Like you've gotta be 15 or sum with that logic Men prefer women with ass and tits, but they don't have that. Men prefer women with viriginities in tact but don't have theirs intact. Men prefer women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:39 AM
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He already has a wife Women weren't lining up to marry him, if they were its because he has money. Most of the offers he gets were sex opportunities n short term dating Using a celebrity/athlete as an example doesn't make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:37 PM
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Men don’t need to hold themselves to any upper N count because women don’t care about a man’s N count unless it’s especially low NOPE. You can't speak on behalf of what women want. Men cannot have it both ways, you don't get to shame women for their n count, while expecting them to keep it low for you while she has to accept his hoe past. If we made a post in PPD debate rn and told women to pick a man, based on his n count for a husband, more often than not, they'll pick a low count one. It is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:27 PM
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Ok so just as men don't want a ran thru wife, women equally don't want a husband who's done all the running thru
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:55 PM
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Plus idk what you're smoking, but I'm a biology college grad, I've studied the ins and outs of the human body, and men and women and based on our genetics we are actually over 90% similar. The only differences we really have come from our 2nd chromosome because when have an X and men have a Y. So idk where you got that narrative from that we r only 20% the same Probably some BS red pill narrative you've been sold. Open a book
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:53 PM
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So no to whatever this comment was supposed to be saying If you don't even know what I'm saying then why comment at all. You use the cheap and easy excuse that men are different, but how are they different in terms of sexual discipline? Yea we get it, most men like to fuck whereas most women seek out monogamous connections, but both genders still do not want a partner who sport fux because they can. If men think high n count promiscuous women will not make good quality wives because she's a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:33 PM
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Yes and I think a lot of women know and understand this idea, and prefer men whom are more emotionally developed in the way you've described. That is why they choose their freedom and solitude over men, and keep it that until they meet a man worth committing to and dating. Rather I think what works against women is people telling them "the clock is ticking" and being reminded of an imaginary wall or that they'll expire soon. The fear mongering some men do causes women to feel rushed and hurry in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:15 PM
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So how is feminism harming men???? No such thing as “patriarchy” the way you’re envisioning. That’s just the boogeyman you have created as justification for all your hatred. So the boogeyman i made up was who wouldn't let women vote back then. Who wouldn't let women work. Who made it so women had to get married if they wanted a decent life. You think the boogeyman i made up is what allowed women to be domestically abused, or not have the right to get a loan, open a bank, or buy a house. You thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:06 PM
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Femininsm is simply womens rights and equality for ALL. Feminism doesn't harm men, but rather many men who don't understand jt just fear womens liberation, because they believe it emasculates them. And believe it or not but traditional patriarchy doesn't benefit men, and feminism benefits men because it deconstructs the harmful narrative on what it means to be a man. And feminism also helps men learn abiut their power and privledge. Once men take off their rose colored patriachy glasses and see …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:27 PM
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Doesnt even make sense considering that feminism is centered around womens independence and not having to marry a man out necessity in order to live a decent life. One of the very reasons many men hate feminism is because women do not want men in their lives as much. What exactly does feminism demand from men????
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:29 AM
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It's heartwarming for you to see young men supporting a criminal, that you guys think is supporting you. Just for the sake of a "fuck you" to women who value their rights? Yea, keep doing what you're doing. This whole fighting fire with fire nonsense isn't exactly helping you in any way. All it's doing is showing us who to stay away from. And then yall want why you're single and lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:23 AM
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women with 20+ body counts, hoes on only fans , and delusional single mothers. You do realize that for women to have high n counts, and be hoes, and OF models is because of the men who love to have sex as well, and highly demanding for those types of women. Yall love to pedestalize virgin women as if they are some sort of mystical creature, meanwhile you don't even hold yourselves to the same standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:04 AM
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Men do not personally care about Random women's ability to pair bond. The sex a woman has while single, does not affect how deep her love will go for a man she is in a serious monogamous relationship with. Men are out here doing the same, having all kinds of causal sex, but never think thag hinders their ability to be a committed husband. If all of that pair bonding was true, men would equally be holding themselves accountable for not having sex as long as possible, instead of patting themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:54 AM
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Because everything you're saying is rooted in misogyny. You only see women in terms of how they can serve you and how they appeal to your gaze (i.e you like em young in terms of reproduction, but yet they're young and dumb, and then when they do reproduce they're expired). A man whom truly has respect for women does not use terms like "expired" as if they're spoiled milk, nor do they make umbrella statements, as if nearly all young women are delusional. The fact YOU don't see anything wrong with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:33 PM
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I would say a woman is expired once she has children I personally think a woman’s peak is 30 Women in their 20s are delusional, immature and stupid Oh yeah, so respectful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:16 PM
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You're not really high quality being a red piller. Just the way you speak about women shows you aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:55 PM
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Yea, attracting a man is easy, because men are easy, however, attracting a quality man, whom is compatible with us is not easy. Most of the opportunities we receive are from men who want a pump n dump, or a FWB. Ladies cannot afford to say yes to any and every man because we bare the risk of pregnancy. If the dude doesn't wanna be a father then we've set our children up to struggle for survival. Women benefit from monogamous relations with men, and many do not want that, nor are they fit to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:10 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:43 PM
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Yes. I think when some women say this tho, they are pointing out the double standards in dating and relationships, to show that our societies have less expectations of men in general, I.e some men won't put as much effort into looking presentable on dates, or when they become fathers, they have lower expectations they must meet in order to be considered a "good dad" compared to a woman who does the same and she's considered low effort, or just doing what she's supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:39 PM
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Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:45 AM
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And that's why many men don't succeed with women. The bar is in hell for women, because you guys put it there. If a lady doesn't have to accomplish much or have much going for them that's because a man's standards are in hell. If a man's only type is- girl, he's only setting himself up for failure, thats how you attract crazy, psycho women, or women who try and baby trap men, or set his car on fire When a dude at least values women for how they treat themselves and him too, the bar won't be in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:44 AM
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You're welcome ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:27 AM
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So basically you come to complain about women, but then don't even want to be specific about the types of women you're referring to. I'm assuming it is average women, the little bit above average, and then the hottest. Promiscuous women u want sex with, IG baddies and OF models.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:27 AM
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Because it's 85% men. So ofc women are going to have the upper advantage. The fact so many men are desperate for sex is why many of them flood those horrid apps. It's only easy for women because men make it that way for women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:21 AM
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You attract what you are buddy, and considering you refer to overweight ladies, as land whales, you arent really deserving of a nice woman, or a woman period. You seem to be attracting your type. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:18 AM
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👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:11 AM
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You say the bar is in hell for women, but you don't actually explain how it is? Just because men have low standards on what it takes to be attracted to a woman doesn't mean the bar is in hell for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:10 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:53 AM
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Virtually every woman knows she could hop on an app and get dates within a few minutes. Dates? Nearly every man who hops on those horrid sites are only looking for casual sex. Even if there is a date, it's not genuine, as the dude thinks sex is now on the table because he paid for dinner. If women were as successful as a lot of men assume they are, men AND women would equally benefit, and eventually sites like Tinder would become obsolete. All it really does is keep ppl in a perpetual state of F…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:09 AM
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Focus on getting into the gym, getting your diet right, getting your money situation right, and once you're a man of high quality, then you can return to the dating apps. I think where most men shoot themselves in the foot is being extremely low effort. If you're going on those apps, you're most likely low effort. Back in the day, circa the 80s, when men wanted to date women, or have sex with them, they'd go outside looking fresh, and chat girls up/ask them out. Nowadays, men flock to the apps. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:07 AM
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