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| – | You shouldn't compare people you've been intimate with eachother. It's a breach of trust and privacy for everyone involved.Okay, so somehow you know which relationships you've been in that were the best or the worst without comparing any aspects of those relationships? This isn't about us needing to agree, I'm just genuinely interested in how you think this works. How do you come to the conclusion that something is better or worse without any point of comparison? Would be like me eating a burger, declaring it to be the best burger of my life, but then following that by saying I'm not comparing any aspect in this bur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 05:33 PM |
| – | You shouldn't compare people you've been intimate with eachother. It's a breach of trust and privacy for everyone involved.I can't say I've needed to compare relationships to know which is "superior". Okay, how would you know if a relationship is the best relationship you've ever been in or how could you say, "this is the best boyfriend I've ever had" if there is literally no point of comparison? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 04:48 PM |
| – | You shouldn't compare people you've been intimate with eachother. It's a breach of trust and privacy for everyone involved.Not actively per se, but how would you determine one relationship is superior to another or an improvement without comparison? The act of dating and around and vetting is comparing options. It's intrinsically built into dating because you are looking for the best match, so it's a given that in order to find this best options, you will compare your options to come to the determination that this person you're with is a cur above the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 11:50 AM |
| – | You shouldn't compare people you've been intimate with eachother. It's a breach of trust and privacy for everyone involved.Here's a question, if you ate a piece of pie and think, " gee willikers, this is the best piece of pie I've ever had in my life!" How does your brain come to that determination? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 11:46 AM |
| 1 | It makes perfect sense to have different standards for casual sex and relationships and in fact, men do it tooLets say for example that a woman has the fantasy of being domimated in bed but she knows it's not something she would want on a regular basis. It makes sense to have casual sex with a dominant man and then marry a less dominant man. "You're not the kind of attractive woman I'd have mind blowing fantasy sex with, but you're the less attractive option I'd seddle down with." Imagine hearing that and taking it as a compliment, or thinking this is the kind of person you'd want to spend your life wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 04:06 AM |
| 1 | It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship.What was even being debated? That they need to find someone interested in a hookup? Whose debating otherwise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 03:52 AM |
| 1 | It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship.Not sure what you're suggesting here that men aren't already doing. That's like saying you just need to win the lottery once. Obviously the difficulty is in location that one person interested in a hookup, whose attracted to them, and flirting well enough to secure sex that night. Unless you have actual advice on how most men can improve their odds or better target women that fall into those categories, what you said is basically a big nothing burger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 02:08 AM |
| 1 | It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship.You don't need most. You need one. So basically the numbers game approach, and yet men who blindly swipe right on 100+ profiles to get 1 or 2 matches get shit on all the time on this sub for doing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 01:04 AM |
| 2 | It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship.You probably have to know how to pick the right kind of stranger who’d likely agree to that. Well, yeah, that would be helpful, but your average guy is not an expert on pickup and don't just magically have a sense for what women are open to having immediate casual sex at a glance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:57 AM |
| 1 | It's completely reasonable for men to view a ONS as more of an achievement than a relationship.Naw, he's right. There's lots of ways to get a gf, building report, taking her out, taking her to meet friends or family, showing her you have a good career and can provide stability, etc. There's ways for guys to compensate for not being super attractive or not incredibly charming given enough time. With a ONS, men do not have that time. They have to impress a woman enough for her to want to be physically intimate within a very short amount of time. So usually the guy has to either be really at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:54 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveThey need to understand that people won’t date or will breakup with partners based on sexual behaviors often. So guys shouldn't date certain women based on sexual behaviors of their past like how many partners they've had is what you're saying? Or is that suddenly insecure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 08:09 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveThe scenario presented was that a man you otherwise thought was perfect and are attracted to, suddenly because you found out he's bisexual, you lost attraction to him. That means you're attraction for him literally reversed. Revulsion isn't just disgust, it can also be a strong dislike, which is the only thing that can explain a complete 180 of attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 07:38 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveIf the thought of them being bi alone puts you off to a relationship with them then that's literally what it means to get the ick. Don't know why you denied that that's what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 01:46 AM |
| 3 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveSo now women agree with Red Pill? 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 08:42 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveOr, and this may shock some, they're attracted to those women and don't particularly care that they also dated women in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 08:41 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveWhat happens when he miss being with a man and can’t get what he wants from a man? I'd assume same thing that happens if a guy misses a female ex. If someone is monogamous, they're monogamous. If they're a cheater then they'll cheat. Don't know why the sex of who they dated in the past would effect this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 08:39 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveI don't think it's that calculated. I think despite what a lot of feminists like to claim, women still have an ingrained standards on what they perceive as masculine and find attractive as a result. Men who don't fit into that criteria they lose attraction to. They can come up with any number of excuses for losing attraction but the end result is that they lost attraction for the guy and the justifications that come after don't really matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.While feminists claim to want an actual partner, but then still expect the man to pay for dinner, court them traditionally, protect them, and have financial expectations of the man. At least with trad women it's upfront and you know the deal from the onset. A lot of feminists talk about wanting an equal but then pick and choose when they want to apply gender role expectations onto men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyPlease read my other comments, of which there are many addressing this similar point I've been asked. I was more so against the initial point by OP that going 50/50 early in a relationship (before kids), is a negative sign towards things later. Obviously, early on in the relationship both should be putting in equal effort and contributions. I understand that dynamic should change once kids enter the picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 02:33 AM |
| 8 | Why is relationship a womans job?In a traditional setting, or a red pill marriage Another misconception, you're assuming Red Pill and Trad are the same thing. They are not. Most of the Red Pill community doesn't even believe a marriage contract to be a smart idea due to the divorce rate and how many women file. So I honestly don't even know what you mean when you say a "red pill marriage." The rest of your response seems to be focused on a traditional conservative marriage but that doesn't really have much to do with TRP. In th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 08:46 PM |
| 29 | Why is relationship a womans job?I've seen the man is Advices to only priorities himself, do things that he wants to do. Nothing for his wife, or her happiness. Try flipping it to a female perspective. "Why shouldn't a woman put herself and her priorities first? Why should a woman have to sacrifice her happiness and her goals for her man?" Notice how this sounds very familiar? Almost like modern women have been saying this too each other for a while now. RP is reactive, adapting to the dating market. Men are advised to date lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 08:07 PM |
| 5 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyand one who offers to cover to over half of the expenses. Sure, I don't think anyone should meticulously enforce a 50/50. However, I also think wanting to know you can rely on your partner to cover for you at times is an expectation that goes both ways. Men also like to know they can rely on their partners to cover them at low points or share the burden. Everyone should be going into a relationship wanting to contribute their fair share and it doesn't strictly have to be on a financial basis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 07:18 PM |
| 4 | Men following other men's advices because you "don't ask a fish how to fish" is pretty stupideOkay it's true, people tend to say what they think they like and not what really attract them when asked Not even just that but a lot of women tend to virtue signal and stick to saying things that sound more politically correct and avoid saying things that could make them sound superficial. However, if you're self aware there is a high change of women not giving an honest answer for one reason or another, how does it make more sense to ask someone likely to give you a false answer, rather than i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 03:19 PM |
| 5 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyI address this in another comment. I agree with what you're saying. What I disagreed with OP on is the implication that there's something wrong with going 50/50 earlier in a relationship when kids aren't a factor or that this is a red flag of sorts. This isn't an accurate statement imo because the majority of people, even if they started out with an equal split arrangement, are going to readjust as circumstances change just like you said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 12:47 PM |
| 7 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyI agree he should contribute more if the wife/mother has to spend significantly more time on domestic work and childcare. That's fair. I disagree that he needed to be doing that prior to the kid coming into the picture. OP seems to be implying that splitting costs 50/50 early into a relationship is a red flag or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:26 AM |
| 5 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyEquality meaning... that? Yeah, 50/50 is an equal split. Is that not being treated as an equal? Feel free to let me know if I'm missing something here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:22 AM |
| 4 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyIsn't this what feminists wanted and fought for though? To be treated as an equal? Well 50/50 is what equality looks like. They won. "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:10 AM |
| 2 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageIf you don't feel special when you're with someone, I think the logical thing to do is move on till you find someone who does make you feel that way. That's the purpose of going on dates, to judge compatibility and the reality is that no one is compatible with everyone. Two people might not be right for each other and it doesn't have to have anything to do with their value as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageWhat if a man does not know about her relationship history? I assume most women who go the manipulation route you mentioned where they present a certain way to get with they want all hope the guy never learns otherwise down the line, or hope if he does find out he won't care. But you're on reddit, so you've likely encountered stories of the fallout when guys do find out and aren't happy about it. Truths tend to reveal themselves eventually because humans don't live in a vacuum, there are people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageThose women who give him sex quickly Those women who make him wait for sex I think women get this confused. They get too focused how some guys judge quick sex vs being made to wait and ignore what the actions are meant to represent. Men, like a lot of women, want to feel special. No guy is going to be appalled if a girl makes other guys wait but has sex quickly with him. On the flip side, arbitrarily waiting with one guy while banging other guys quickly can indeed feel insulting to the guy made … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 07:29 PM |
| -4 | Even men think men are the problemAnd my point is then logically why turn to those groups for protection if you don't view them as protectors? Would you run to someone you view as a danger to you for protection? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 05:23 PM |
| -5 | Even men think men are the problemDo men, and by extension the predominantly male institutions I mentioned, provide value through protection or do they not? It's a simple yes or no question. You just have to pick a lane and stick with it, it's not a trick question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 04:45 PM |
| -4 | Even men think men are the problemMost men here who find protection as one of the values men provide mean protection against other men, not women. You're right, those predominantly male institution provide no value. I'm sure women don't rely on them at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemYou're right, the predominantly male police force, predominantly male military, and predominantly male fire department are ridiculous. I sure you don't turn to any of those for protection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 04:14 PM |
| 6 | Red pill failed menThe fall is like the end of old school ideals like traditional courtship, the nuclear family, or an unspoken moral code when dating. Instead embracing hedonism, hookup culture, and approaching dating similar to how a lot of women do by putting themselves first and trying to get with whoever checks off the most boxes how often they can from whoever they can at the given moment, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:59 PM |
| – | Contrary to stereotypes, older women are often much kinder, sluttier and less entitled than younger and same-aged womenI think you could have maybe phrased your post a bit better. I interpreted it as women becoming better partners as they get older, but it seems the real claim here is that older generations of women treat men better than the newer generations. I'll probably agree with you more on that than what I initially thought you were claiming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 04:31 PM |
| – | Contrary to stereotypes, older women are often much kinder, sluttier and less entitled than younger and same-aged womenI think a person can be kind or not kind, and I believe that has more to do with personality than age. I met my wife when she was 19 turning 20 and she was one of the nicest people I've ever met still to this day. As for sluttier, that can go either way. Yeah, they can be hornier but there are also women who experimented and tried certain sex acts when young that they won't try again. So this isn't a guarantee or anything. And as for being less entitled, again it depends. Most studies show that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 04:28 PM |
| 7 | Most men aren’t “nice guys”Counterpoint, should any guy even want to be a nice guy(tm)? Seems like countless posts come out about how men can't live up to the selfless standards that would grant them the label of a true "nice guy," nor does it seem likely most guys would even be happy trying to be. On the other side of that coin, we have many posts claiming that "bad boys" or "fukbois" are really just misunderstood because they're confident, hard working actually, or maybe they are assholes but at least their honest assho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 03:40 PM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise?I personally wouldn't do this but would it really have been better if he was genuine at the start but still decided a year down the line that he no longer wanted to continue the relationship? Ultimately, nobody owes anyone sex or an LTR, it doesn't matter what you did for them or who you took them to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyThey’re clearly socialised differently though. They're socialized to be gay? Whose socializing gay men to behave differently? Maybe quit while you're ahead here because this is starting to sound ridiculous. I just gave you stats, it’s disingenuous to ask for more. Okay, the closest stat I could find says about 4-5% of men are guilty of DV. So back to my previous comment, women should do their best to avoid that small minority of men who are violent and out of control. Luckily they still have the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyDo you have stats showing the majority of straight men are committing DV? Feel free to present that if you have it. Also, weird of you to imply that gay men aren't also biologically men. Whether a guy is gay, straight, or bi, he's still a man. Sexual preference doesn't change who you are biologically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyNow that the conversation has shifted from "men are violent and can't control their emotions" to "certain types of men are violent and can't control their emotions" I can agree with you and suggest women avoid those types of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyYou conveniently left out gay men, which is a rate of 26%. Somehow the lowest of all the groups listed 🤔. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 02:42 PM |
| – | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societySo your claim is that a group of women that rarely if ever date men, have higher rates of DV than heterosexual women and gay men, because of men? So how exactly does it make sense that heterosexual women and gay men, individuals that almost exclusively date men, have lower rates of DV than women who pretty much exclusively date other women? Square that circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 02:16 PM |
| – | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyThe DV rate of lesbians is higher than heterosexuals and gay men so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyYou have actual stats to back that up, or are you just basing this entirely on the types of men you've chosen to date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by society"Emotional intelligence (EI or EQ) is the ability to perceive, understand, manage, and use emotions effectively in yourself and others." Notice the word 'manage' above. Being in control of what emotions you choose to express to others is definitely a form of emotional intelligence. There are people who may choose not to be vulnerable around you because they may not trust you on that level. But yes, choices, like choosing to be violent or having bad taste in men and choosing to repeatedly date do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 09:30 AM |
| – | More women today have a disdain for men because the only thing women can offer today is sex, so they understand all of men's efforts today is just for her pussy, which fills them with contemptYou're free to name other superior benefits that come to mind... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 09:22 AM |
| – | More women today have a disdain for men because the only thing women can offer today is sex, so they understand all of men's efforts today is just for her pussy, which fills them with contemptOkay, so then what benefit is he getting besides the vajayjay? Seems like OPs point is being proven here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:53 AM |
| – | More women today have a disdain for men because the only thing women can offer today is sex, so they understand all of men's efforts today is just for her pussy, which fills them with contemptUnless the woman is doing it for her man, can't really count it as a benefit men are getting in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:50 AM |
| 4 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?Sure, but following the question in the post, weight is something you can lose to become more attractive and this applies to both men and women. I'm explaining why some people may not be ecstatic having to lose the weight to be noticed. But of course there are factors that can't be changed that effect both sexes attractiveness. Men can't improve being short and unlike women it's not very socially acceptable for them to wear makeup and mask blemishes or facial flaws. Everyone becomes old and less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:15 AM |
| 9 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?How come some fat people feel a little bitter about the fact that they're invisible until after they lose the weight? As if their existence only has meaning once they fulfill certain superficial standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:24 AM |
| – | Most Modern Women are Alpha WidowsWhat exactly do you find inaccurate about the term and what it describes? What's the reality that's not being reflected here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 03:39 PM |
| – | Most Modern Women are Alpha WidowsSexlife is a show about this married stay at home mom, who obsesses over her past when she used to sleep around, party a lot, specifically with this toxic ex she used to have an on and off relationship with. She can't stop fantasizing about the wild sex she had with this Brad guy and neglecting her husband who she sees as a milk toast cliche boring nice guys who she "omitted" her colorful past to in order to secure a relationship. That's basically an Alpha Widow. A woman whose had certain experi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 03:18 PM |
| 0 | Women arent conditioned to do everything they do by societyMen choose to enter dangerous or physically labour intensive jobs. Yeah? Don't know what point you thought you were making here. Men choose to dampen their emotions so they can’t feel their grief Trying not to be too emotional around those that may not understand or think less of you for it isn't the same as not feeling emotions. There's this thing called emotional intelligence where some people have a certain level of control over their emotions and pick and choose when to be vulnerable and tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Most Modern Women are Alpha WidowsThink Brad from Sexlife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Most Modern Women are Alpha WidowsDon't know if I agree that most women are but the reality is it's impossible to know how many are really. It's not like any woman whose settling is going to tell the guy they're currently with that they're settling for them. Of course they're going to tell him that if they're with him he's the best, that way he won't suspect anything. Most guys being settled for just going to know unless she accidentally lets something slip, or until the inevitable dead bedroom or more likely divorce. Very few W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Its hypocritical for 🔵BP/Feminist society to be outraged at the likes of Bonnie Blue/Lily Philips or even Clavicular, since its just the end result of their own ideals (Sex Positive, Sexual Revolution, Sexual Autonomy).people are allowed to think fucking thousands and thousands of times for attention is excessive Uh oh. Judging someone for how often they sleep around? Sounds insecure tsk tsk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 07:10 PM |
| – | Women need to stop acting like it’s men’s fault they have to workAdding to your comment, ironically it was men who viewed cleaning, cooking, child care as degrading, not women. Maybe once upon a time. However, nowadays if you see any woman post about doing housework, cooking for their man, or being a trad wife, the ones posting comments criticizing women doing that kind of work is almost always other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 02:15 PM |
| 3 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?Men will use it as a false accusation Could literally be settled by a private paternity test between the couple. There's no reason it needs to be publicized and thus can't ruin anyone's reputation unless it's made public for some unknown reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 11:51 PM |
| 1 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?And if he doesn't question it and the kid turns out to not be his, he could be wasting two decades of of his life and most of his resources having been scammed into taking on the responsibility of another man and raising another man's kid. Do you have a better solution? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 09:57 PM |
| 3 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?And isn't that the most common suggestion for false accusers? People only make that argument for specific crimes where the accuser knows for a fact a crime didn't occur and lies about it. Like if I claimed my boss grabbed me and kissed me on the lips at work. That either happened or it didn't happen. If it didn't happen, that means I lied about it happening. In the case of paternity fraud, there's literally no way the man could know for a fact the kid is his prior to the paternity test, so no li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 08:15 PM |
| 7 | What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud?In terms of how regular fraud is handled, do you believe the punishment for being guilty of committing fraud should be equivalent to the punishment of mistakingly believing someone has committed fraud? By extension, should accusers all be forced to face the potential punishment of the accused? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 07:17 PM |
| 3 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.In their later years, I already agreed with you on this. Both cheat more when they have the advantage, women have more of an advantage in their physical prime, so it makes sense. Men have to build their value so they get more opportunities as they become more successful over time. This has more to do with who has more leverage at various age ranges and less to do with one gender being inherently more moral, which seems to be what you're implying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:57 PM |
| 4 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Women cheat more in their physical prime, men cheat more in financial prime. Take away here is that both genders cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 05:49 PM |
| 0 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Not in their 20's. Young women actually cheat more than young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:18 PM |
| 2 | which one of these preferences is more moral to haveAh, you mean like a sugar baby situation? In that case, yeah I can agree if the arrangement is transparent and both agree to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:43 AM |
| 1 | which one of these preferences is more moral to haveHow is entering a relationship with someone out so you can siphon them of their resources moral? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipI mean, I know a few myself that gone from Chad chasing to much less attractive dude with a high earning career. I'm not going to argue you on whether most women do that or not because I don't think there's a study that shows how many women settle, so neither of us can really prove either position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 09:23 AM |
| 5 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipI agree with your main point but at the same time, posts like this are always stated like women don't already lower their standards. The woman who mostly hooked up with frat bros and jocks in her early 20's, but is suddenly dating a nerdy engineer with a dad bod post 30 didn't lower any of her standards? I doubt that. There's likely a decent amount of women who lower their standards for one reason or another, relationship security, loneliness, wanting a family and running out of time. Men don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 11:04 PM |
| 1 | The Graham Platner scandal shows decency doesn’t matter in datingAs if he doesn't have status being a famous actor from one of the biggest TV shows ever and in multiple movies. Take that away and you think he'll have the same success in the dating market? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 08:09 PM |
| – | Men are more shallow than women and you know itWell then it seems you misunderstood what financial security means. If someone is providing you with financial security, it means some of the finances they make is going to supporting you and your lifestyle. Someone who is just making enough to support themselves wouldn't have finances left over to go to you, so they wouldn't be offering you any financial support, but they also wouldn't be a jobless bum either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 11:50 PM |
| 3 | AFBB ignores actual biologyIf a woman selects you during her waning fertility window Wouldn't someone's prime be around when fertility is at its peak, not waning? How are you defining prime here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 10:49 PM |
| – | Men are more shallow than women and you know itWanting security is not shallow. Dating someone for the financial security is indeed superficial, because you're not dating them because of who they are as a person but because of what they can provide. No one wants to be with someone who can’t keep a job If you're dating someone because of financial security they can provide you, then clearly you care about more than just the money they make to support themselves. You're also counting on being able to use some of that money for yourself and to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 10:37 PM |
| – | Men are more shallow than women and you know itWhy do men pretend they are less shallow than women Do we? women value security over looks while men value beauty over anything else. Literally everything you guys say is an admission So apparently you don't realize that valuing someone for their money and status also falls under the definition of being shallow. It's not just valuing looks but superficial traits in general. Yeah women like tall men but men want women with big boobs Don't know why you're needlessly making this into a competition.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 10:19 PM |
| 1 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.Okay, Mr. 600 lbs wants to date her. Is she going to reciprocate? If the answer to that is no, then that would mean even being willing to date anyone doesn't guarantee a desperate guy a partner, if most women like Ms. 600 lbs can date up and have better options available to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 09:32 PM |
| 2 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.The flaw in your argument is that if the claim is how desperate men can get a woman just by dating anyone, that should apply to her make equivalent then too right? So the question is, if Ms. 600 lbs is dating in shape average men, whose left to date these obese guys like Mr. 600 lbs if all their female equivalents are dating up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itRealistically, it can't be an option for every guy. Average dude working at Target likely doesn't have the expendable income for that. The guy who this could potentially work well for would be the average looking dude with a remote job and some decent expendable income, flexibility to take time off to travel, a guy who is willing to stay in that country and adapt to her culture, the kind of guy women still single post 30 would consider a catch basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:59 PM |
| 4 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.Shows like My 600-lb Life prove that is not true. That chick is dating way up. She's 600 lbs and dating an average man whose in good shape. If she can get a guy like that, whose left to pair up with her male equivalent, a guy over 600 lbs? Obviously not her if she can date men in shape, so what women are left that can't do better than Mr. 600 lbs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticA big part of Red Pill focuses on men doing things that will maximize their success and is to their benefit. I got exactly what I wanted and it benefits me. I don't need to project confidence onto strangers on the internet. That literally doesn't effect my life in any way. Real life results are all that matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 06:54 AM |
| 2 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticAnd why would I feel uncomfortable sharing that I have piece of mind and like having less things to be concerned about? Guess I'm missing what part of that is supposed to be worth keeping a secret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 05:32 AM |
| – | Most women don't consider themselves average, and that's a problemSo if an above average woman is too good for an average man, but can't get commitment from above average men since they have a lot of options which include above average women, then whose left for average women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 03:50 AM |
| – | Which women do men (you) like/love more?Why do you believe it to be untrue? What would be preventing this guy from committing to this woman he's having sex with assuming he actually likes her and has no issues committing to other women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticIt's choice to worry, though. That's like saying it's a choice for someone to worry if a dress makes them look fat or to worry about being late on their taxes. Humans are not machines that can flip a switch and decide when to be concerned about certain things or have complete mastery over all their emotions. Yeah, that would be the ideal, but it's not reality. If it was that easy, psychiatrists and therapists would be out of a job. It takes effort to have that level of control over ones thoughts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:01 PM |
| – | Which women do men (you) like/love more?or women they (you) are in a ltr/marriage with? This is a weird question because why would a guy pursue an LTR or propose to a woman he doesn't like? By default, you can assume any woman he doesn't pursue a committed relationship with is someone he doesn't like all that much or at least less than the woman he actually pursues for commitment. Going off the "men love sluts" idea Yeah, for sex specifically, not necessarily committed relationships. That's like someone saying they love cake and takin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticSure, and I'd assume women who aren't satisfied sexually will leave at some point. But it's still nice to not have to even think about how I compared to her exes or whether I'm the best she ever had because none of them got this far. I've had that piece of mind for over a decade now. No one here can convince me it's not a great feeling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:43 PM |
| -4 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticIt's not that difficult to become a guy's best if a woman is enthusiastic and willing to learn. It's not like your average chick is pulling off pornstar level maneuvers or some shit. I was a virgin for my first husband. Sex was still mediocre. Sucks to be that guy I guess. I assume he wasn't getting you off then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 03:16 PM |
| 8 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureI highly doubt any guy ever said they got "scared of their own feelings." That sounds like extreme cope if I ever heard it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:31 PM |
| 7 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureThat simply means they were lied to successfully. Doesn't really matter how they try to cope through it afterwards. If a guy claimed or acted like he wanted some deeper connection be leaves right after the sex, chances are he just wanted the sex. It's not much more complicated than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:13 PM |
| 0 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticWhelp, another post that makes me glad my wife was a virgin so I don't need to be concerned about any of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 01:48 PM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menAre we talking about women under 18 or above 18? I have to ask because when similar topics have come up, the women making this argument were talking about women in their early to mid 20's like they were children or something. If you're actually referring to women under 18, pretty sure the vast majority of men or society in general doesn't support that. Outliers exist, but they're just that, exceptions to the rule, not the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 11:00 PM |
| 10 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureWomen are attracted to authenticity, NOT fake confidence! This assumes they can tell the difference. And considering how many claim to have been bamboozled at one point or another, or say they thought a guy was one way and turned out to be another, I'm going to go off on a limb here and assume they don't have some special ability to sense when men are being genuine or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:56 PM |
| 5 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureBut a smart man also knows when to let the monkey brain out - it's fun after all. Saying a smart person should just know when to stop thinking is like saying that a person suffering from anxiety should just know when to not be anxious. That's a lot easier said than done. It's not like a switch you just turn off and on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Saying asking for prenup means you dont trust your partner is hypocritical because the entire marriage system is based on lack of trust.There actually was a supreme Court ruling in 1979 that made alimony gender neutral, before then it was actually only for wives. So the guy's statement that it was originally only to benefit women is accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 09:30 PM |
| – | In my opinion, it’s pointless to blame women for their dating standards.Yeah, I don't think anyone should be blamed for having standards. However, if say there's some mid looking fat guy with supermodel level standards, and this guy is constantly complaining about how there aren't any decent women, I think a guy like that would receive some criticism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular opinion: I think asking for a live-in relationship before marriage is a red flag—for meYeah, there's just no way I would be willing to commit to someone through marriage for life without first knowing what it's like to live with them. Too risky to leap into that level of commitment without knowing What their house habits are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?So are men happy being considered attractive but no one wants to be around him? Attractive assholes still get laid and have friends. So the claim that no one would want to be around them can't even be taken seriously. But to answer your initial question, both men and women want to be physically desired, that's not gendered. Doesn't mean that's the only thing they want but it's a very high priority when talking committed relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 03:07 PM |
| 7 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?You can't build an LTR on looks alone, just like you can't build one on just having a nice personality. However, the way women treat guys they're very attracted to versus not is night and day. No guy in an committed relationship would want to be the latter unless they're completely ignorant on where they stand on that spectrum or desperate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 02:53 PM |
| 2 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?That doesn’t mean she doesn’t think the father of her kid was her husband/ boyfriend. It means she knew it could be someone other than her husband/boyfriend and intentionally kept that information to herself. At minimum, she's guilty of hiding the fact that the kid could have been fathered by someone other than the person she claimed to be the father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 02:14 PM |
| 2 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?If she got knocked up by a different guy, it means she had sex with a different guy. Everyone knows sex = possibility of pregnancy. Not that hard to prove common sense. The onus is on her to prove to a room full of adults, that she as an adult somehow didn't realize that having sex with multiple guys meant that she could have gotten knocked up by any of those guys. Unless she suffers from a mental disability, she'll have a tough chance convincing a jury of her peers that she was actually that na… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 07:15 AM |
| 1 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?She hoped it was her husband's, that's not the same as knowing. She slept with multiple people so there's no way she could have actually known for certain it was his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 01:13 AM |
| 7 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?let’s add any male cheating in there too since he could have potentially gotten someone pregnant How's this comparable if there's zero possibility that he could scam his wife and pass on the cost and responsibility of a kid he has with another woman onto her? Any kid he has with other women would only be his responsibility and not his wife's. Paternity fraud it fooling a man into taking care of another man's kid, so not comparable. The woman he cheated on is not at any point responsible for a ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 01:11 AM |
| 6 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?Why is it only fraud when women do it? Isn't it as much fraud for a man to cheat as a woman? The fraud is not cheating, it's the act of having a man unwittingly raise another man's kid for up to two decades claiming the child is his. woman? Fraud just means deceit. The legal definition of fraud is not just lying, it's lying to achieve some gain from the other person. In this case fooling a man into providing resources and years of labor to support a kid that isn't his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 12:59 AM |
| 1 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?Maybe she truly thought that the man was the kids father Doesn't explain why she wouldn't reveal that the child could be someone else's. If she slept with multiple men then she knows there's a possibility it could belong to any of those men. A condom doesn't 100% prevent pregnancy and there's no way she could have known for certain it was the child of the guy she claimed it was without a DNA test. There's no reasonable explanation for a woman hiding that information other than to lead the indivi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 10:22 PM |
| 1 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?She had to know the child potentially isn't the kid of the guy she claims it is if she slept with multiple men during that time. There's no way she wouldn't be aware of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:45 PM |
| 6 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?In what instance would an affair a man has result in scamming a woman into raising a child she believes is hers but is actually the affair partners? If that were possible, then yeah I'd say it should be possible for the woman who was tricked and taken advantage of to charge that man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 8 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?It isn't just cheating because you're scamming someone into dedicating years of their life they'll never get back and tons of resources into raising another man's kid by deceiving them into believing it's there's. There's a reason it's called paternity fraud. It's fraud if you knew the kid was or could be another man's yet withhold that information and incorrectly name the wrong man as the father and hold them legally responsible for a child that isn't theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:31 PM |
| 4 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?It's definitely above mere infidelity. It's one thing to cheat on someone, it's another to fool someone into raising another person's kid for possibly to decades or more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:24 PM |
| 2 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?That she and the victim were married when the child was conceived. You could be paying child support or legally responsible for a child despite not being married. So I don't see why being married should be a requirement for paternity fraud. How would being married change being put on the birth certificate and paying for a child that isn't yours for 5 years or more? You would still be a victim of fraud regardless. That she specifically went out of her way to get pregnant by another man. I don't s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:16 PM |
| 1 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?Why's that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 07:49 PM |
| 6 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?But being married and sleeping with another man is not evidence of intent to conceal paternity. I disagree with this to an extent, because there's no way that a woman sleeping with multiple men wouldn't be aware that the child resulting from that period of time could be fathered by any of those men. Concealing that information in itself should be evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 07:49 PM |
| 7 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?assuming intent was proven I'm a bit confused on this part. Wouldn't intent to deceive be proven by the very fact that the individual knew multiple people could be the father but willingly hid that information from the person they claimed to be the father? it's non-violent crime, i don't think people should be in jail for this. Minor fraud can already lead to a year in jail, so I don't think it would be out of the ordinary for jail time to be on the table. Perhaps it could be treated like child … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 07:44 PM |
| 5 | Passport Broing should be illegal and/or heavily regulatedWell they kinda do by STD stats. Then what is it you're suggesting here. That we collect stats on how many people catch STDs abroad? How? Only if he stays there permanently. That's exactly what I'm saying. What if the guy decides to just live abroad, get married and have kids abroad. It's not like the woman benefits from a green card if he's staying in her country. That's assuming it is consentual it isn't always. Nothing you've mentioned so far in the post isn't consensual. Whatever relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 03:07 PM |
| 10 | Passport Broing should be illegal and/or heavily regulatedFirstly it spreads STDs and drug resistent STDs. By that logic, why not monitor and regulate anyone who has unprotected sex, even in the West. It's not like STDs can only be caught abroad. Poor women in these countries also zleep with the passport bros either for money or hoping he will like her and bring her back to his country to marry. Poor women sleep with guys who have a lot of money here in the West too. And what if the Passport bro stays in that country? Then what? Except she just ends up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 02:15 PM |
| 9 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillBoth male and female felons seem to have higher fertility rates and that makes sense because in general these are more reckless people Difference is, most women can have sex and kids when they want. However, there's a much larger increasing number of sexless men or men barely having any sex. Historically only 40% of men have had kids compared to 80% of women. Women have always been selective, all dating apps and historical data supports this. Yet despite that, the majority of convicted felons an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:57 AM |
| 11 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillConvicted felons have higher fertility rates than average men who have never been to prison. Known serial killers get hundreds of Love letters and marriage proposals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:40 AM |
| – | If All Women Want/Pursuing Tall Attractive Men, By Red Pill, Wouldnt That Mean Most Men are Doomed to be Beta buxes, "Safe guys" or Unselected? And Perhaps need to be Grouped as The Same Tier of Men?"Genetic research indicates that while about 80% of women have historically passed on their genes, only roughly 40% of men successfully reproduced" https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/through-history-more-women-have-reproduced-men-180952840/ This should answer your question. Like you said yourself most data all points to the same fact that has been the case throughout most of human history. the beta bux is a man that is buying desire, Yeah, but I'm sure most beta bucks don't know that and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:33 AM |
| – | Panama criminalizing paternity fraud is a model for every country to followBut you can't fathom the destruction being created by the woman in the first place by trying to scam an innocent man into raising another man's kid because it was convenient for her. She didn't care of the consequences whether it was destroying her family and the mental state of both her husband and kid. She didn't care that she was frauding a man out of two decades of his life. There's only one villain in this scenario and it's the mom. Everyone else are her victims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:05 AM |
| – | Panama criminalizing paternity fraud is a model for every country to followAnd he's sleeping with a taken woman presumably By that logic the mom is equally scummy if not more so because she committed paternity fraud on top of cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 05:59 AM |
| – | Panama criminalizing paternity fraud is a model for every country to followTricking a man into wasting two decades of their life raising another man's kid (possibly the affair partner's) is definitely one of the most evil things a person can do. Not just due to the enormous loss of time and resources he'll never get back, but also on the psychological and emotional damage he'll probably never recover from. It's worse than cheating on someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 05:56 AM |
| – | Panama criminalizing paternity fraud is a model for every country to followMen shouldn't have the right to get fair retribution if they've been frauded? Make that make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 05:48 AM |
| – | What do you have to offer?A predictable answer from those that have never thought about what value they bring into a relationship and only thought about the value they can extract from others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:17 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillis that your idea of showing interest? The initial claim was that these men don't interact with women. Now it's that the interaction doesn't show enough interest? Funny how the goal post shifts. if you think talking about morals is just virtue signaling instead of a genuinely important If it's of such high importance it should be seen in results. We would see women prioritizing and vetting for men with moral traits above other traits. If that's not the case, then it's just lip service AKA virtue… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 06:40 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillAm I supposed to believe that if these guys shily interact and say hi, that's going over very well with a lot of women? It's not like there are no guys who do this. Women call those guys creepy. First interactions with them tend to not be "fun" or "flirty." Those of us who aren't naive know that virtue doesn't really play much of a factor here. The biggest assholes can easily outperform any shy guy just by having good social skills, doesn't matter if those introverted men have hearts of gold. Mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:28 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillHaving good social skills >>> being a good person When it comes to being attractive to most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:13 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillDo you think serial killers directly interacted with the hundreds of women who sent them love letters? They were still winning with women even when they weren't actively playing "the game." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:56 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillYou interact with them. Just not in a fun flirty way. None of this contradicts anything op says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:54 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillGhislaine Maxwell was manipulated? I doubt it. Women are human, which means they are also flawed and not perfect. What makes you think one of those flaws isn't occasionally liking and attractive douchebag without being manipulated into it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:53 AM |
| 3 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️but some men are not available for any emotional discussions. Then you can move on. Nobody is forcing you to stay with these men if you're opening your heart out to them and they don't want to hear it. Some people just aren't compatible. Still not their fault if they didn't react the way you wanted to information they didn't ask for. We should listen to each other. Yeah, and in an ideal world we should all listen without judgement. But I think we all know that's not exactly the world we live in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:06 PM |
| 5 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️Why do you need a spreadsheet to know how to appropriately express emotions? You do you need someone to be vulnerable and open if you're going to set arbitrary parameters about what's acceptable for them to open up about? There's also the option to not involve you in their problems or open up to you at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:58 PM |
| 3 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️Be vulnerable and genuine and responses will be more likely to mirror that. But clearly only vulnerable and genuine in the ways you see as acceptable. Be mindful of your audience. How often are women told when they're opening up about their issues, fears, etc, to be mindful of their audience? Think about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:55 PM |
| 5 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️I was being facetious. In actuality, I believe the ideal solution here is to just not pry into people's business or claim to want to hear about there issues and be this shoulder to cry on, if the individual in asking for these things knows you might get the ick or bothered if they hear something they're not prepared for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️There's a different between asking someone to divulge their issues and not being comfortable with it vs you deciding to reveal personal information on your own they never asked for. My criticism was specifically towards people who insist on others talking about their issues and being more vulnerable, only to have these internal parameters on what they think is an acceptable issue or limits on how vulnerable or emotional the person can be. I don't think there's an issue being uncomfortable hearin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 09:30 PM |
| 7 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️And your example of someone opening up about how they want to rape is realistic!? Lmfao. It would be much easier to just not even have the discussion or reveal personal things if the individual has to pussyfoot around what you consider socially acceptable. This is the overall point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:00 PM |
| 8 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️most people know what is socially acceptable and what isn't. You: "Hey buddy, you seem upset. I want you to open up and reveal everything that's bothering you to me even though it's not really my business." Them: "I was SA'd when I was young and it still bothers me till this day." You: "That's not a socially acceptable to talk about. Next time only open up about problems I'm not going to be bothered listening to." This makes sense to you? Again, you do realize you can just not pry if you are goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:14 PM |
| 5 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️Why don't you just provide a spreadsheet of what you find acceptable for people to open up about or be concerned about? Or better yet, why not just not ask people to open up if you're going to be judgmental about what or how they choose to be vulnerable? You either honestly want to know about their problems or you don't really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️How would you feel if a new girlfriend opened up to you and said 'I tried to get with a bunch of guys but they didnt think I was hot enough?' Depends, did I ask for her to open up about such things or is she just saying these things unprompted? Either way, if I want her to feel comfortable opening up to me, best course of action would be to be supportive regardless and try to be a good listener. You can sympathise, but theres not much you can do about it. There's plenty of ways to be supportive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 02:32 PM |
| 13 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️but more a mismatch in expectation. Okay, but how is it reasonable to have specific expectations around someone else's emotions or problems? Doesn't make a lot of sense to go around telling people to open up to you if you're going to set internal expectations and think less of them or judge them for not meeting these expectations they don't know about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 02:21 PM |
| 5 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️Hypocrisy wasn't the best word to use, but my point is that it's naive to believe you can control the specific parameters around someone else's emotions. Either the person asking genuinely wants to hear about the other person's problems are they're just paying lip service AKA virtue signaling. I think some people go around writing empathy checks their asses aren't actually willing to cash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 44 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️This is actually a good example of the hypocrisy of such statements. "Open up more." "Not like that! You were only supposed to open up about specific things I wanted you open up about." "It's okay to cry." "I didn't expect you to cry so much and at times I didn't anticipate. You're too emotional." "Be vulnerable with me." "Why are you constantly unloading all your problems onto me? They're your problems, I can't help you with them." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Passport broing should unironically be illegalBeing a retail cashier or working fast food doesn't exactly require a formal education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.So it's not her body her choice then? Society should decide for them what they do what they're bodies and who they can't date after they become adults is what you're saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 04:23 AM |
| -4 | “Pair bonding™️” feels like a self-serving male fantasy about how men wished women attached to menThere is data on oxytocin. For instance, drugs that trigger oxytocin release lose their effect over time like Molly. Basically you become resistant to the effect, making it more difficult to release oxytocin. Certain actions or things you consume which release oxytocin lose their effect if done in abundance. It becomes a lot harder for those things to trigger an oxytocin release. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 12:39 AM |
| 1 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?If you say you wouldn't have been SA'd as a man growing up, clearly that implies you don't believe as a man you could be SA'd. How else could this statement be taken? Address the statement itself directly rather than coming up with convoluted hypotheticals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 07:18 PM |
| 0 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?how would i know that? You said yourself "what would make me any different?" If you don't know how you would stand out from other men, then you probably wouldn't. Hell yes, i have a lot of advantages compared to them You haven't named a single advantage you would have over other men that would make you more desirable or above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:13 PM |
| 7 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?I wouldn’t have had childhood SA. You don't think men get SA'd? The fact that you don't seem to think it's even a possibility if you're male, should by itself tell you how rarely male SA is taken seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:08 PM |
| 2 | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?If i was born male i would be in the same conditions as other men, and what in the world would make me different?? So you would be an unremarkable male that doesn't stand out in any way to the opposite sex? simply because i'm already better in areas i'm criticizing them for. So if you magically switched genders you think your female friends would find this male version of you more attractive than the average guy? For what specific reasons? What traits do you think you would excel in as a male? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:04 PM |
| -1 | As a man who struggled to orgasm with partners, I really think the discourse around orgasm gap is unfair.Yeah, kind of not the same. You mentioned "death grip" which is how I already knew you didn't really know what you were talking about. Nobody is gripping their balls or penis that hard unless they're a masochist. That shit would hurt. Do you death grip your clit? Second, what guy has ever said their hand is comparable or better than an actual vagina? If porn has a negative effect on men, at best it would be due to seeing extremely hot women regularly performing over exaggerated sex acts that set… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Passport broing should unironically be illegalWhat's the difference? A cashier making minimum wage in the states is poor and probably living paycheck to paycheck. How's that different from working a minimum wage job in Thailand and also just getting by? If there's a power disparity caused by getting with a wealthy guy, this would apply to both individuals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 04:00 PM |
| 6 | Passport broing should unironically be illegalThe doesn't really answer my question because poor women try to pair up with wealthy/successful men here in the States too. Should it be illegal for a woman working as a cashier in the USA to get with a CEO? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 03:29 PM |
| -2 | As a man who struggled to orgasm with partners, I really think the discourse around orgasm gap is unfair.You know what it's like to have a penis? You said that with such certainty like it's from personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 01:25 PM |
| 21 | Passport broing should unironically be illegalClearly they must have had a way to survive before the foreigner arrived. So, it's still a conscious choice to target a foreigner for their money/resources. Not something they absolutely need to do to survive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 07:50 PM |
| 29 | Passport broing should unironically be illegalCan you explain to me what's the difference between a woman from another country choosing to date a guy because of their money, status, and resources vs when Western women vet and choose so date certain guys based on how much they make, their status/careers, and their resources? Why shouldn't it also be illegal to date women who vet for that here in the West? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 06:58 PM |
| 4 | Do you think you have a positiv impact on men here?You can't debate someone to change their own opinions about things they are convinced about. Wouldn't be much of a debate if said person isn't convinced of the position they are arguing in favor of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 05:41 PM |
| – | I would be happy if hypergamy was realAnd if he made 55K and rented? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:24 AM |
| 0 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testWhat you're describing sounds like you're attempting to use paternity testing as some sort of plan b which makes no sense. Don't know how you got that impression. I think you misinterpreted what I meant by a man protecting himself. In the case of paternity fraud, he would be protecting himself from the possibility of unwittingly raising another man's kid for 18+ years. I didn't mean protection as in preventing pregnancy. All men who were paternity frauded trusted their partner. Simply trusting o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.Majority of Western men believe in gender equality in general, which by definition makes them feminists. Don't know what gave you the impression otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 10:53 PM |
| 7 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.Has there ever been a point where I said I didn't believe women should have equivalent rights to men or the right to do any of the things I mentioned in my previous comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.It’s not assumptions, it is extremely likely in today’s age If you're not basing it on any concrete evidence then it's just your assumptions that this is the case. I knew two girls in college that both married men in their 30's while they were in their early 20's. One was an Engineer/family friend, the other was an elementary school teacher. As far as I know they were just regular guys and I have no reason to believe otherwise just because you list a bunch of negative assumptions. Those girls I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 09:17 PM |
| 0 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testI said this in another comment. I would get a paternity test regardless of who I married. I don't care if it's the most trustworthy woman on the planet. But to elaborate further on why, like I said, men should have the right to the same level of certainty over their kids paternity that women do. And I also strongly believe paternity tests should be normalized, as if they were it could virtually eliminate paternity fraud. We as a society have the ability to eliminate paternity fraud, but we don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 09:06 PM |
| 0 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.Well considering they are doing so because of insecurities You're literally just making assumptions. You don't know anything about those two people's relationship. I could just as easily assume maybe these women have a fetish for older men. I had a few friends into Milfs when I was younger. I don't see why it's so inconceivable their could be women with similar preferences. the man is very likely using a persona and therefore a form of manipulation You are basing a lot of your claims on baseless… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:56 PM |
| 2 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testPreferably they would want to have the conversation on paternity before they start trying to have kids. That way there's full transparency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:37 PM |
| -1 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testThe mother knows for an absolute fact it's her kid because it came out of her. At best the father can assume it's his kid, but that's not the same as knowing for certain. If men had the ability to just sense if a kid is 100% theirs, no man would ever be a victim of paternity fraud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:35 PM |
| 3 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.I mean, women fought for their rights, sexual freedom, and the ability to make their own choices. It's an understatement to say it's ironic seeing them fight to take agency away from each other and criticize each other the most for exercising that freedom. But if women want to fight each other on that I sure as shit am not getting involved lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:28 PM |
| 6 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.Their body, their choice...until it's a choice we disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:18 PM |
| 12 | Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange.What would you prefer? So should we be against women's agency to select their own partners over the age of 18 and Shame them endlessly on any choices we disagree with? Should we dictate for them who they're allowed to date and who they can't date even when they're adults? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:28 PM |
| 1 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testYou're either okay with sneaking behind your partner's back or you aren't. It's not any more complicated than that. I don't see why it matters if you're sneaking to go through their phone or sneaking to get a DNA test, you're still going behind their back either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:06 PM |
| 1 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testHonesty is the best policy or at the very least the right thing to do. I think most people would agree with that. Do you wear a seatbelt because your certain you're going to crash or don't trust your driving capabilities? Or do you do it to protect yourself in the unlikely event something bad does happen, and because of the risk to your well-being if you're unprepared for it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:03 PM |
| 0 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testOr I think men should have just as much certainty on the parentage of their kids as women do. Why is that a right only women should be allowed to have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 06:59 PM |
| 1 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testI'm married and I said I'd get a paternity test. Am I the anomaly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 05:21 PM |
| -1 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testSo if ur in a trusting relationship this is a nonissue. Every guy who has been paternity frauded trusted their partner. This is a non-answer. It's like saying if you trust your partner enough then you won't be cheated on. Doesn't quite work like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 05:17 PM |
| -6 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testIf you suspect that the child is not yours, just get it done privately. You don't need the consent of the mother. You're not wrong but I do think it sets a bad precedent for going behind your partners back. Like advising people to look through their partner's phone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 05:15 PM |
| 3 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testBetter to set the expectation early on that you always planned to paternity test your kids no matter who the mother was. Then there's a chance they won't take it so personally. That's what I did for the most part. But results will vary based on the woman of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:58 PM |
| 2 | "Nice guys finish last", AFBB statementes are kind of true for most average guys.The marriage wasn’t working way way before she filed. How does this debunk anything I said? You can come up with 101 reasons they leave, but the bottom line remains that chances are low they stay with a Betabuxx they settled for till the day they die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 01:05 AM |
| 7 | "Nice guys finish last", AFBB statementes are kind of true for most average guys.I think settling only works if you can commit to it long term. However, given how many divorces are initiated by women, how often they tout the phrase "never settle," and argue not staying in a relationship where you are discontent for any reason, I find it hard to believe the women who Betabuxx are willing to actually commit to these men till death do they part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman?The average height of a giraffe is something you can look up. If I asked you for data on the average success rate of cold approaches, where exactly are you going to look that up? My point was that as of right now nobody has really done a study on that or collected that data currently, so you can't really look anything up about it. I'm not saying it's impossible to collect it but no one has done it yet as far as I know. Maybe at some point when someone actually does a study on cold approaching an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:15 PM |
| 7 | Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman?But this is all hypothetical because no one has actually done a study on the success rate of cold approaching. So no one can give an accurate answer to that question currently because of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 05:14 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Missing my point. I'm challenging the claim the previous commenter made about men not attending college and getting degrees at equal rates being their own issue the need to solve on their own, while women not attending STEM at equal rates to men is considered a society wide issue and their are programs to assist women in succeeding there. There's no reason programs can't be created to equalize the issue with men going to college as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:46 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Men choose not to pursue education. And women choose not to go into STEM and other high earning fields like that, yet society treats it like there's external pressures preventing them from going into these fields and creates initiatives to encourage more women into STEM. We can't apply the same logic to men and create initiatives to encourage more men to enter college? There in lies the bias and double standards against men plain to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:46 PM |
| 6 | What are men wanting in terms of dating?Here's what I believe most men want: 1) To be genuinely desired romantically and sexually. 2) To be appreciated for more than just some utility they can provide. 3) To be with someone who brings more peace into their life rather than adding more stress into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 10:19 PM |
| 3 | The idea that men shouldn’t approach women is dying out in the mainstreamI agree with the other women, it's how and when and where you all decide to approach. No offense, but this is why it's not very productive for men to take women's advice at face value. Some women are going to say don't approach, some will ask why men don't approach, others will say it's okay to approach sometimes when a specific set of criteria is met which differs from women to women. Guys would literally have to be mind readers to decipher all this. Which is why the guys who succeed the most j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutI'll give my take on it, I can't speak for everyone. I'm pro choice, I support women's right to choose. However, I also believe that life starts at conception. Why? Because I've never heard anyone provide solid evidence that the baby suddenly develops a soul at some distinct point in its development, so as far as I'm concerned it starts at conception when a human being starts forming. Now, just because I hold that opinion doesn't mean I feel I have the right to go around criticizing women who do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 01:38 AM |
| 3 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutDoesn’t abortion also affect women’s time and money though….? Less than having and raising a kid for 18 years minimum. Also I’m pretty sure women who have abortions also face social stigma whether we want to admit it or not Depends on the State and the political climate there. However, who would know unless they advertise being pregnant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 12:20 AM |
| 1 | In regards to Akash Singh situation.She told Akash she was a virgin, but on a podcast bragged about hooking up with white frat boys, said one of those guys made her butthole sore, and said Akash's balls smelled like a homeless man's. That sound like she respects him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 11:30 PM |
| 1 | In regards to Akash Singh situation.why are people crashing out over the fact that she may have lied about being a virgin? They're rightly calling our Akash for allowing his wife to blatantly lie to him and not only that but dictate his career and who he can be friends with. If the roles were reversed and it was a guy blatantly lying to his wife and telling her to quit a talk show that was making her tons of money because he felt insecure about her audience comments and fellow hosts, I have no doubt women would be calling that guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 11:26 PM |
| 2 | How should a female navigate a situation where the man is smaller than averageI mean the person who feels they settled on what they wanted can grow to resent their partner. So in this case, if penis size was a big deal to you and not just a minor preference, it's possible you could eventually start taking it out on him emotionally if he doesn't meet those standards sexually. A more extreme example would be when one partner wants kids and the other doesn't. If the person who wants kids compramises for the other and doesn't have them, chances are they grow to resent their p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:26 PM |
| 3 | How should a female navigate a situation where the man is smaller than averageI'll amend my earlier comment a bit. If you actually want to go through with the relationship, and I mean really deep down want to, not just out of guilt, then mentioning using toys and other things could compensate for the guy being below your preference in size, though I would still avoid mentioning the reason is because of size. Could just say you enjoy trying things like this to spice up sex, which is believable. My advice earlier is if you're leaning pretty heavily on just breaking things o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:19 PM |
| 5 | How should a female navigate a situation where the man is smaller than averageJust say you don't want to get into it and block if necessary after that. Unless you know the guy well enough to know how he'll react, my take is your more likely to hurt the dudes feelings for no real reason. And ultimately you're being honest about incompatibility. It's not like the dude had a micropenis, you just have a preference for bigger. If it's within normal range then he shouldn't have too much trouble pairing up with another women who doesn't care if he dates around a bit longer. Now,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:03 PM |
| 3 | How should a female navigate a situation where the man is smaller than averageif you feel guilty about breaking up for a particular reason, perhaps that is your conscience telling you something. I somewhat disagree with this logic. Unless we're talking about a married couple, I think it's a bad idea to suggest someone talk themselves into staying in a relationship. What's most likely to happen is they may very building resentment and not treating their partner well before eventually leaving them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:53 PM |
| 9 | How should a female navigate a situation where the man is smaller than averageHow about instead of ghosting with zero feedback, you give him some closure and just message him letting him know that you don't think your compatible and will continue to see other people. You can give some closure without being super specific about it. Not like he can improve his penis size, so nothing can really be gained from bringing it up. Let the guy come up with his own assumptions and you can block him after you've said your part of he won't leave things be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:42 PM |
| – | TRP is fundamentally opposed to right wing politics and tradconIf that's the case, why are most red pillers right wing or tradcon? How is smashing and passing trad? How is having a roster of women trad? How is arguing marriage is a bad deal for men trad? RP actually supports and tries to benefit from hookup culture. All the things I mentioned wouldn't make sense to believe if you were trad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:52 AM |
| 1 | TRP is fundamentally opposed to right wing politics and tradconHere's a question, do women vet for leaders or find themselves attractive to men with leadership qualities more than men without those qualities? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:48 AM |
| 2 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.I literally left a post before this one with real idols showing their bodies. And of course you missed to point of this post since you're mostly responding just to argue, not to actually understand what's being stated. Why would one of the main characters in a Korean Animated movie about K-pop groups be tall and muscular if that's not what Korean women also find attractive? This idea that they like drastically different things from women in the West is bull. Korean idols sell sex in all the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 08:42 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Why? Because they wear baggy clothes sometimes? A guy wearing a sweater doesn't mean he's not fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 08:33 PM |
| – | What would a red-pill man do if he was magically turned into a biological female?Which is why I would never tell anyone I did that, as I would be rightly shamed for it. Hard to identify someone by their feet alone. Choices in life have consequences, like doing porn. Best to be smart about it if you're willing to do it or prepared to live with the consequences of that choice as well. If someone is going to complain about the outcomes of that choice, then it might be better for them to not do it if it's not something they can live with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 02:24 PM |
| 0 | How can men be sexualy attracted to their past prime wives?Yes, a young single guy or long term bachelors will have a different mindset than older married men. How many older married men do you hear say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 0 | How can men be sexualy attracted to their past prime wives?So is the claim here that somehow women of this generation didn't know that there are men that exist who just want to get in their pants? Pretty sure that's not a new development that only appeared in this generation. That's kind of what vetting is for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 02:17 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Another prime example is that super popular animated movie K-Pop Demon Hunters. One of the male members of the rival group's entire character is being tall, musclar, and having visible abs that constantly distracts the female characters. How is that different from Western male standards of beauty? <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:57 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Not sure how what you posted disputes a single thing I said about height and physique. Literally just type in shirtless K-pop men in Google and don't even specify whether they have muscles or not and see what comes up. Here's what I got. Wow, this definitely isn't anything like what women are attracted to in the West /s <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:52 PM |
| 6 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Big difference between being "skinny" and being toned with visible muscles and abs. They're the latter. Also, pretty sure the average height of the male Kpop idol is around 5'11, which is taller than the average male in the states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 06:43 PM |
| 4 | How can men be sexualy attracted to their past prime wives?Kinda weird seeing how many women on this sub have difficulty understanding the difference between love and lust. Yes, a single guy who doesn't really know you is going to primarily be attracted to the things you mentioned, because he does not know you on some deep emotional level. So he'll be mostly attracted to surface level things like your beauty, youth, or how interesting you appear to be. Obviously, as two people enter a relationship, spend years together, live together, and make sacrifice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:26 PM |
| 11 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Exhibit A of why I'm not completely surprised Donald Trump won 2 elections. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 05:40 AM |
| 5 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.So with respect to abortion, the answer is yes, those things do benefit some men. How does it benefit me if I want the kid and you don't want the kid? Or vice versa, say we live in a state abortion is legal, but you want the kid and I don't. How exactly do I benefit here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 05:21 AM |
| 5 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Predictably crickets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:01 AM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Name this alternative group offering men actionable solutions to their problems? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:00 AM |
| 11 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Naw, it actually attempts to give answers. Like OP pointed out, where else are men expected to go for answers when only the manosphere offers actionable solutions? The left loves to complain about these men but can't spend even 1% of that same energy trying to figure out alternative solutions to their problems. Until that happens they're only going to have one place to go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:54 AM |
| 13 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.But don't men also benefit from abortion being available (if they don't want pregnancy either)? Only if the interest of the father aligns with the woman's decision. If it doesn't, then tough shit for him, he doesn't get any post conception rights. And don't men who are parents and baby boys benefit from paid maternity leave bc their partner is able to bring in some income to the family while caring for a newborn? Only if the maternity leave is unpaid. If it's paid then the kid would benefit more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:40 AM |
| 1 | If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids?Seems pretty consistent with heterosexual women. How is it consistent with heterosexual women when they have lower rates of DV? Make that make sense. Heterosexual women date men at a higher rate that lesbians, so if the DV was coming mostly from men, they should experience more of it. Same for gay men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:44 PM |
| 0 | If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids?Nevermind the fact that this isn't even true. If you actually read past the title of the study, you would find the question was, "Have you EVER experienced DV with a romantic partner". (Lifetime Prevalence) This excuse doesn't make a lot of sense. Obviously heterosexual women and gay men would be dating men the most, at least more than lesbians. Yet they have lower rates of DV than lesbians. Can't make that make sense if the issue is supposedly men. By that logic, a relationship between two men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:04 PM |
| 4 | If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids?The reasons they give for women being bad partners would make them bad parents too. Some traits could but some other traits might not. For instance, if someone is a bad partner because they are a narcissist, being a narcissist would likely make them a bad parent as well. However, let's take for instance a single mother with a kid from her last relationship. Will this single mother likely prioritize her kid over any new boyfriends she has? Probably, but I'd say that makes her a good mother. Howev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:31 PM |
| – | Do men get crushes on older women?Yeah, I still think Danielle Fishel (Topanga from Boy Meets World) is a total smokeshow 🥵. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ?Well, I was specifically talking about validation through the pics. Instagram, Tinder, etc are good ways for women get get validated on their looks through likes and matches, not to dates, sex, etc. Yeah, a lot of those may be short term but you're average guy is not getting any of that at any level near the ease women can. Your average guy posting on any of those platforms is getting near zero engagement. Their best option they have for getting this temporary validation or interest when they wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:42 PM |
| 0 | I have a question. Why do men seem to care more about what women do more than women care more about what men do?If you don't want people up in your business, maybe the smart thing to do is not post your business all over social media? Obviously when someone does that, they can't be mad when the engagement they stir up isn't all positive and what they want to hear. Especially the women who go around airing their dirty laundry talking about this ex being a narcissist or feeling used or stuck in a situationship. Women make a choice to post things like this all over the Internet for anyone to see, then get ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 12:42 AM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeare you sure you speak for all men? Like I said in the end. Why would a superficial standard be okay because of who has the standard? Either the person on the receiving end is okay having superficial standards placed upon them or they aren't. I don't see why you think the individual having these standards is the deciding factor here. Just seems like a way to convince oneself that they are somehow more justified in having these standards than others. i dont understand your analogy here. My point … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 11:14 PM |
| 23 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?Best I would describe it, is imagine if a guy was breaking up with you and you asked for a reason why and he says something along the lines of having difficulty finding himself attracted to you because he likes a woman with a more feminine fuller frame and you're just not doing it for him. He can barely get it up. That would basically be the female equivalent. It's basically attacking your ego or pride but in a that specifically attacks your identity as a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 11:05 PM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeI'm sure some women convince themselves they are better than other women despite having the same exact standards, but from a man's pov it makes literally no difference. One person isn't automatically morally superior just because they have a better job. Would be like if a guy walked up to you and said, "hey, my two friends are just interested in your body. However, one of my friends is more attractive than the other, so it's okay if the more attractive guy just wants a booty call right?" An expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 10:57 PM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeAre all women who have criteria for what a man dating them needs to make minimum and career a gold digger? Cause I'm pretty sure there are also women with successful careers who have the same standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeHow would hot baristas know a guy's career just by looking at them? Now if the guy pulls up in a Lamborghini some women may assume things about his career. But who do you hear hyping up dating a lawyer or doctor more than women? Women are the ones who view that as a flex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:56 PM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeso why are mid male lawyers choosing mid female lawyers instead of hot baristas? It ever occur to you that it's just easier because they likely spend more time socializing with women within their career and that these men are not going out of their way to filter for lawyers. Yeah, men tend to date the women around them in friend groups, schools, etc. But the only ones you ever really hear say, "I want a partner who makes over such and such amount and does this career" is women, not men. But you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:52 PM |
| -1 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumOptions for sex. And options for relationships. Though they may not be quite as abundant as their options for sex. I'll meet you half way though. I'm sure there are some women out here who maybe rarely if ever have men showing interest in them or wanting to date them. To these women who practically have no options and are just choosing to date the only men available to them, of which there are few supposedly, then that's a situation where "choose better," isn't a fair statement. But I'm pretty s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:37 PM |
| 1 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumYeah, eventually most guys pair off but you can't claim it's as easy as it is with women when men don't get anywhere near as many matches/options as women due through dating apps, clubs, etc. Men have to do pretty much all the pursuing the old fashioned way and face way more rejection on a regular bases. Since this discussion is about options, not just the end result, that distinction matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:27 PM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeExcept career status goes a lot farther with women than with men. Men just don't care about a woman's career as much as they wish we did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:13 PM |
| 1 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeIf she's a lawyer, very low change she's not argumentative. That's part of the job discrimination. But like I said, hypothetically if all else was equal, then I guess it wouldn't really matter, would it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:51 PM |
| 0 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumThere's plenty of women the world over who are also happily married, so somehow women exist all around us who don't have too much difficulty with finding decent men. Skill issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:47 PM |
| 2 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumOkay, so are you saying right now that most women don't have options? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:43 PM |
| 2 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumIf men keep telling women that her choices are wrong is it suprising that the bar keeps getting higher and higher? If she was making the right choices why would she be complaining about them? And raising the bar is pointless if the only thing being raised are superficial standards and nothing to do with character, morals, or any of the traits that would actually contribute to someone being a good partner. Raise the bar for character as high as you want. Whose telling women not to do that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 03:39 PM |
| 1 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumYou're complaining about some women being told to make better choices but what other advice can be given to someone who has choices yet somehow consistently chooses the worst among the choices available to them? If it's a one off thing then I'd agree with you that the statement isn't fair, but if it's a pattern then the advice is appropriate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 01:53 PM |
| 0 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumSo we're supposed to pretend like women don't have options and choices? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Women in less developed countires are more gender-essentialistc, which imo is an underdiscussed draw for passport bros.Her family wasn't super conservative or anything. Was an upper middle class two parent household in the suburbs. Up North, so not a particularly conservative state. I think what really gave her baby fever was meeting my great grandmother whose from the Caribbean and has had a dozen kids. I have a really big family as a result of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 11:38 PM |
| -1 | Women in less developed countires are more gender-essentialistc, which imo is an underdiscussed draw for passport bros.You realize expats and military men have been dating/marrying women from other countries long before Passport bros became a thing right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 08:19 PM |
| -2 | Women in less developed countires are more gender-essentialistc, which imo is an underdiscussed draw for passport bros.Me and my wife make pretty well into six figures combined and she's been saying the same as the chick OP was talking to for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 08:17 PM |
| 5 | Fear of automatic cheating or getting an STD aren't the biggest reasons why women won't date bi men. Their reasoning is mostly due to their idea of masculinity.Was literally thinking this. There's always 101 excuses under posts like this rather than just admitting bi men are a turnoff and they're only attracted to straight men. Much easier to just admit that then all these weird arguments that never make any sense under scrutiny or are based entirely on stereotypes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 05:01 PM |
| 7 | Fear of automatic cheating or getting an STD aren't the biggest reasons why women won't date bi men. Their reasoning is mostly due to their idea of masculinity.And n-count. Women have a lot to say about men with that standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 04:55 PM |
| – | Fear of automatic cheating or getting an STD aren't the biggest reasons why women won't date bi men. Their reasoning is mostly due to their idea of masculinity.If you've been on this sub for more than 5 seconds you'd definitely have come across women like Lilith who are straight yet have a lot of animosity towards men. Clearly such women get along better with other women regardless of being heterosexual. But mostly it's just common sense that men would relate more to men and women relate more to other women. That's not unique to being bi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 04:11 PM |
| 7 | Fear of automatic cheating or getting an STD aren't the biggest reasons why women won't date bi men. Their reasoning is mostly due to their idea of masculinity.I'm sure you could say the same about a lot of women, especially on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 03:30 PM |
| 3 | How many would you say there are genuinely good guysMost guys when you scratch the surface can be decent people, we are all human, this is why the “choose better” is so incredibly offensive to women. We see the good in people and often miss the bad because we want I think it's precisely because the the majority of people are decent that those who repeatedly end up with assholes or borderline narcissists get criticized so heavily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 02:22 PM |
| 4 | men DO care about a woman’s incomeLet's put it this way. Men care about income about as much as women care about niceness in a guy. Yeah it kind of matters, but it's not very high on the priority list. In the same way women will date an attractive, confident guy, who may occasionally be a douchebag. Guys will sooner date a hot, easy to get along with, broke barista than mid, hard to deal with female lawyer. Like the other guy said, if literally all else is equal then the money will make a difference. But rarely is all else equal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 01:46 PM |
| 1 | There are no free good menYou and OP are defining good men differently. OP describes a good man as being competent, attractive and having integrity. If you remove being objectively attractive from the equation, then obviously the number of good men sky rockets | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.Still is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.My wife was a virgin when we first met, once we started having sex she was very enthusiastic and it was frequent. Some women just make a conscious decision to not have sex outside of committed relationships or unless they feel and intimate connection with their partner. The decision to remain abstinent for a period of their life could simple be based on their own standards for intimacy/relationships and not entirely dependent on their sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.Not entirely sure what your point was to be honest. They brought up women getting the ick from men being emotional. You brought up a virgin lacking experience. Virgins can always gain experience, people can't become emotionless machines that never cry. Maybe I'm missing something here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:34 PM |
| 6 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.That's silly. A virgin can always learn. We were all virgins at one point. Unless the guys main goal is a hookup or phenomenal sex, lack of experience wouldn't ruin the relationship. Lack of enthusiasm and unwillingness to learn might. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Or John Wick <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?This dude wasn't much of a looker even in his prime. Try Mario Lopez at age 50. <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?the 50% percentile woman is more valuable to the 50 % percentile man So, the average woman is more valuable to the average man apparently, but above average men have access to above average women that are obviously more valuable than average women. So where does that leave the average women who believe themselves better than average men but can't out compete above average women for high value men? Stuck in limbo? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:26 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Why don’t you want the woman you end up with to choose you freely? Did you miss the part where I said women still settle today? Just because a woman chooses a guy to settle down with in the end does not automatically mean this guy was her best or first choice. That much has not changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:59 PM |
| 9 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Right, and things are so much better today with the 50% divorce rate and 70%+ being filed by women. That's something to be thankful about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:35 PM |
| 7 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Does consent not matter to men? At what point did women not have consent? We going back to Genghis Khan times? You had a better deal in the past BECAUSE women were oppressed. Women may have not had as many choices as they do today, but they still had choices. They still had to agree to marry the guy, they could say no. Yeah, some of them settled, but guess what? Some women settle today too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:32 PM |
| 7 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?I never claimed it was oppression. I said dating is harder for the average guy nowadays, so why would they be happy about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:24 PM |
| 14 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Isn’t it great that the women they date actually want them, instead of tolerate them? Sounds great if you're naive and don't think women settle after Dickriding the hottest Chads they can find in their prime. Let's just assume that doesn't happen and the guy they choose at 30 was the type of guy they wanted all along hypothetical. Aside from that assumed idealistic scenario, by almost every metric you can measure by men have it worse than men in the past. The average guy in the past had a decent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 06:53 PM |
| 77 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?To answer your main question, why would men be celebrating how easy and great dating is for women if it's worse now for a lot of men? Obviously the men who is sucks for are not going to be happy about it. Would you be celebrating a situation that was advantageous for men but put women in an objectively worse position? Regardless of weather this change is caused by men or not, it's unlikely you would be celebrating something that makes things worse for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Many men feel that there is such a thing as female privilege. I would like to argue that over a broader scope it does not exist.What about if she is not allowed an abortion? Majority of states it's allowed and the majority of women can travel to a state where it's allowed to have the procedure. How many men get away with having no responsibility for their child. I dunno, you tell me? How many can get away without paying child support or jail time for avoiding child support payments? Our biology controls much of our lives. You're the one who made the argument that the privileges between men and women are even over a span … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.He still had the convince half the country to vote for him not once but twice. You need good social skills/charisma for that. Social skills are just that, skills you can develop. Business men develop them, snake oil salesmen develop them, car salesmen develop them, politicians develop them, lawyers develop them. You can be a complete scumbag and still develop good social skills and even charisma. Those skills have never depended on having good character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:50 PM |
| 0 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.You can be an asshole and yet have good social skills/charisma. Exhibit A, Donald Trump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:12 PM |
| 4 | Many men feel that there is such a thing as female privilege. I would like to argue that over a broader scope it does not exist.This does not minimize the maternal mortality rate. Can choose not to have the kid. Getting into clubs for free, I assure you is not much use over the life time of women. And men paying every single time for a decade place is of better use? I could reply that our make up and razors are more expensive. What's stopping you from buying men's razors? As for post conception rights, if you do not want a pregnancy you know how not to have one. How exactly is this an argument for why one should not have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Many men feel that there is such a thing as female privilege. I would like to argue that over a broader scope it does not exist.How exactly is that a privilege? Because in family court where both parents are fighting for custody of their kid, who do you think courts assume is better for the kid, the dad or mom? You know that men can use those save haven baby boxes too right? Explain how the father is going to decide on his own to take the baby after the mother gives birth to it and drop it off without her consent. Only women can really do this as they don't have to inform the father when they are giving birth and don't n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:24 AM |
| 12 | Many men feel that there is such a thing as female privilege. I would like to argue that over a broader scope it does not exist.The flaw in your argument is that you focus on just one privileged women have in the west when there's definitely more than that: Often viewed as the default caregiver in family courts. More dating/sexual attention on average. Get into clubs for free. Get men to pay for drinks. Get men to pay for dinner. Sex on tap. Lesser sentences for the same crimes as men. More post conception rights than men such as abortion or safe havens. More public outrage when harmed. Actually taken seriously when clai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:12 AM |
| -1 | Loyalty is useless alone.Studies show that men are far more likely to cheat as they get older than women. Conveniently leaving out the fact that the same study you linked shows women cheating at a higher rate then men under 30 and about the same rate till 50+. because divorcees will cite "irreconcilable differences" even if the underlying reasons are infidelity, abandonment, or abuse. So, when in doubt assume it's the guys fault and that he cheated. Makes perfect sense if you're biased. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Loyalty is useless alone.Yep, it absolutely happens. It also happens with men. I know guys who have been cheated on by women they're still with too. Difference is guys openly criticize other guys for putting up with that just because the chick is hot. We say such men are thinking with their dicks, simps, or pussywhipped. We don't give them a pass on personal accountability for mankind bad decisions or pretend this doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 04:45 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starOkay, so are you specifically talking about guys who criticize the porn industry, not just the individuals, then turn around and watch porn? If that's the case, yeah I could see the hypocrisy in that. What about guys who don't necessarily see an issue with the porn industry but wouldn't date a pornstar? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 04:40 PM |
| 6 | A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn starI don't like or respect Amber Heard but I still enjoyed Aquaman 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 03:52 PM |
| -2 | Loyalty is useless alone.Actually prove a correlation that the high divorce rate is due to men cheating more than women and in significant number. There are indeed women who complain a lot about their boyfriends cheating but then stick around anyway for some reason. I thought of one I know off the top of my head as I was reading that comment. From my own past experiences being friends with fukbois in my fraternity, I've seen numerous women putting up with shit you know they wouldn't put up with for an average guy they t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 03:47 PM |
| 7 | What would a red-pill man do if he was magically turned into a biological female?See how much money I can rake in with feet pics. Fetishists will pay top dollar for certain things if you know how to market it. And no one can identify you from feet alone. I'd stay away from things that could permanently ruin my reputation and options though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 03:45 PM |
| 13 | Red pill men have double standard about knowledgeIt's not that women aren't capable of understanding men's struggles, the majority of women just don't give much of a shit about truly understanding what men desire or what men struggle with. Because for the most part it doesn't directly effect them. They aren't the pursuers, so why would they feel the need to learn these things when men come to them? The onus usually falls on men to understand how women think and what they desire so we can better pursue them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 03:40 PM |
| 5 | Thoughts on this? Men aren’t needed anymore, and they’re struggling to adapt to being wanted by Olivia Barbulescuand we wouldn't need men to "defend our rights" if other men didn't try to stole So does that mean you need men as allies or do you not? If you don't, then you can defend those rights on your own I assume. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/26 01:36 AM |
| 2 | Men Shouldn't Apologize for priortizing beauty and refusing to settle for lessI think we're talking over each other. You said women shouldn't feel guilty about seeking money and stability, my point is when has it ever been the case that women in general ever felt guilty about this? Doesn't seem to have been the case in my lifetime at least. The only reason modern women get some shit for those expectations is because self proclaimed feminists spent decades claiming they're strong, independent, and equal to men, yet turn around and still expect men to pay for their dinner e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Men Shouldn't Apologize for priortizing beauty and refusing to settle for lessYou said that like expecting someone to pay for you isn't unapologetically entitled, basically proving my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 10:07 PM |
| 9 | Red Pill men trust their self-motivated inccorrect observations of women more than women's own explanations.I'm literally also married and agree with a lot of RP. Did it ever occur to you that sometimes what women claim works and what actually works can be different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Men Shouldn't Apologize for priortizing beauty and refusing to settle for lessSo basically you believe people can just choose to be gay? Thing is a claim like that would need to be proven. Can you prove the vast majority of men can just make the choice to be homosexual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 09:39 AM |
| -2 | Men Shouldn't Apologize for priortizing beauty and refusing to settle for lessWhen have they ever once apologized for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 09:30 AM |
| -1 | Men Shouldn't Apologize for priortizing beauty and refusing to settle for lessI actually think most men are sexually fluid and probably more compatible with males. You'd be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 09:28 AM |
| 2 | Men Shouldn't Apologize for priortizing beauty and refusing to settle for lessYou think the male equivalent of these women fair any better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Yeah, well ideals alone don't win elections now do they? Listening to what people say they actually want and delivering on or at least making an attempt to work on it works better. Clearly a significant amount of men no longer care to be lectured about what they should want or what they should be fighting for. What they care about is having the issues they've been talking about actually addressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Yet Democrats spent $20 Million on a campaign to win back men after the last election. Yeah, that definitely sounds like they don't need to win back men /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.We're talking about what's generally the norm here. On average about three-quarters of elite powerlifters achieve their max lift in their 30's or older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?You are literally in this thread arguing about how women need to trade sex for men to care about human and civil rights lmao Quote where I said that? I'm arguing you specifically because you said this: "You want to talk about democracy, yet auction off your vote?" Voters do in fact need to be convinced to vote a certain way. That's always been the case. I disagree with the assumption they should just give their vote out of some obligation, while the party receiving and benefiting from those vote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?why it’s important to uphold them and how often they are violated Okay, I'll ask again since you brought up human rights in your last comment. What human rights aren't being upheld or are being violated? If your entire basis for selling your vote is for sexual intercourse, you’re already morally corrupt. I'm married. I don't need to vote to get sex. But since you inferred that I should just give my vote even if I don't benefit from it, I disagree with that sentiment. Or the sentiment that I shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:11 PM |
| – | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.Multiple studies showing powerlifters heaviest lifts in their careers being around mid 30's. Here are just a few: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35687764/ https://thebarbell.com/peak-strength-at-what-age-are-we-our-strongest/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.generationstrength.com.au/strengthcoachtips/2021-2?utm_source=chatgpt.com | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:00 PM |
| -2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?women are not a fucking political party numb nuts. I meant "you" in the general sense, whatever your political alignment is. If your side wants/needs men's support for laws and agendas, it should be common sense that you need to convince them of why it would be beneficial for them to give their support. This should not be confusing at all. If you give a shit about human rights, you would vote that way regardless. And what human rights have been violated exactly? Not every right is a human right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 03:21 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I can see how the revelation that one can not continue to garner support without working for it or giving any support in return can leave the entitled feeling...disappointed. But that's reality. Reality is a give and take, tit for tat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:03 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?No one’s saying we don’t care about mens problems OPs title starts with "why should women care that men..." And there are comments from women besides OP under this post admitting they don't care. So, it's a stretch to claim no one is saying that. if you look at mens mental health and suicide charities, they are run by female volunteers. Many of the largest organizations and programs dedicated specifically to male mental health were founded by men. But sure, SOME women care. However, when it come… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:56 PM |
| -2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?You want to talk about democracy, yet auction off your vote? Do you not understand how voting works? It's each parties' job to convince the voters that supporting their side is in their best interest. It should be no surprise if they fail to do so, that voters will either vote for the opposing side or just not vote for them. Did you think you were for some reason entitled to someone's vote even if you had nothing to offer them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:38 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Again with the irony. What about the audacity to boldly say you don't care about a demographics problems, then turn around and be mad when that demographic no longer cares about yours as well and votes against you? How's that not hypocritical to refuse to give empathy towards a group yet expect to receive it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:59 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?The absolute irony of women on here asking why they should care about men's problems (something I'm sure they've never earnestly cared about), only to turn around and be utterly confused as to why men are increasingly voting against women's interests. You really don't see how there could be any correlation there at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.Some guys say they want that, sure. But I wouldn't say most are claiming that's what they're looking for, and what you're describing leans more into kink territory and less what guys are prioritizing for LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.I asked what he specifically thought. I'm not going to argue his personal preference. But now I'm asking you based on what you've heard men in general say they like in women, what traits are unique to just older women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.Name one thing men actually say they want that only older women have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:18 AM |
| 2 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"1) Imagine storming out because someone brought up a book character. It's not that serious. 2) Sure, Margaery Tyrell might not be real, but it's not like any of the qualities I described don't exist in real life. Femme Fatales are real, there's just not many modern day examples of them. Cleopatra is a notable historical example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.Just physically I would say usually 20's. I say usually here because based on powerlifting stats, male muscular strength and build peaks around mid 30's. But if we're talking a balance between decent muscle mass and body fat percentage then that's mostly a guy's 20's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 10:20 PM |
| 2 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"women are allowed to be badass, flawed, power hungry. So apparently you don't believe Margaery was a badass, flawed, or able to gain power? I don't see why you seem to think there's a contradiction between being all the things you just mentioned and being traditionally feminine. You don't have to rely on brute strength to be a badass. Plenty of women throughout history were badasses and didn't need to throw a punch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 10:00 PM |
| 2 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"Both rely too much on brute force. Especially Cersei when she gives that speech about how power is power. And Daenerys is not good at understanding people and often tries to force people to adapt her ways with her dragons. You see Dany's flaws the most when she tries to take over that City of slavers and they refuse to instantly change their ways for her. Margaery would have seen that revolt coming from a mile away and handled the people better. She knows how to win over the hearts of the masses… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 09:38 PM |
| 3 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"Because I'm so tired of seeing depictions of strong women that is basically just taking traits/personality of a man and giving them a vagina. There are different versions of strength. Margaery is one of the few female characters in media nowadays that actually leans into her femininity. She relies on it to overcome much more powerful opponents in the same way Tyrion has to rely on his intelligence, and that's what makes them interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 09:22 PM |
| 0 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.That’s for the man to decide. Though you'd say that, and this is exactly the problem. Men are expected to know when they're lacking and to improve to better women's lives. But reverse the question and women either don't know or never thought about it. Somehow, regardless of whether we're talking about the man or the woman, the burden still falls on the man in either case to figure out what he needs to do but also what she needs to do? The problem with getting an accurate number on this is that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 09:16 PM |
| 1 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"I would just answer them. I admire Margaery Tyrell from GoT. As she's essentially a Femme Fatale who is extremely intelligent and capable of even manipulating dangerous/unstable characters like joffrey. Prime example of how powerful peak femininity can be. A man I admire would be Marvin Peebles, because he did everything he set out to do. Even if it wasn't very good, he still tried everything once and didn't let other people deter him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 09:09 PM |
| 0 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.It does matter. Obviously most women are at their hottest in their physical prime, so a guy who wants a lot of options of hot women is going to be mostly looking for women around that age. But sure, some older milfs that aged gracefully could also make the cut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:38 PM |
| 0 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.There's plenty of hot older women How many are naturally as hot as they were in there prime though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.I would expect women to also have improved over time. Improved on what traits exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Men dating younger women may be the only option left.And how many women are returning the favor, and adding to the guy's life rather than just syphoning any value they can get from it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:30 PM |
| 0 | If you have to perform niceness or play jester on a date, then you’re not actually desired.Yes, it sounds stupid to Blue Pillers and there are Blue Pillers in this discussion. Again, how is any of this new information? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:18 PM |
| 0 | If you have to perform niceness or play jester on a date, then you’re not actually desired.You acted like a Blue Piller disagreeing with a Red Pilled point proves something. What did it prove exactly? We already know Blue Pillers disagree with Red Pill, that's why he calls himself Blue Pilled. What did we learn here that's new? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:14 PM |
| 1 | If you have to perform niceness or play jester on a date, then you’re not actually desired.I love how you somehow missed the fact that the guy who didn't agree with the post was a married blue pilled man. Of course it sounds stupid to him, he's Blue Pilled. I don't think this is exactly the "gotcha" you thought it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:57 PM |
| 0 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.I don’t buy the idea that young men are wandering around genuinely confused about whether attraction matters. Lots of things contribute to attraction. Are they born with the knowledge of all the traits women are attracted to and which traits are more important than another? There's a reason the manosphere grew so much over the past decade or so. Part of the reason is because it's the only space willing to explain these things to men in detail that others just expect men to instinctually know or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:53 PM |
| 0 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.“looks matter, but they’re not the only thing that matters.” This only comes up in discussions where women are pressed on the matter. But in real life when women are asked about these topics, they tend to say things like how they just want a "good man" or a "nice guy." They conveniently avoid bringing up traits that could make them seem superficial. Do you really need it spelled out for you A lot of younger guys without experience do in fact need these things to be spelled out. When it's not spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:17 PM |
| 0 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.Why do some of you struggle so hard to just say the quiet part out loud? Be open about all the qualifications. Why leave anything to interpretation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:31 PM |
| 0 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.Because generic dating advice increases your chances but not necessarily to 100% Generic advice like "just be yourself" and "just treat women like humans" is too vague to be useful and lacks any actionable steps. Which is why nobody appreciates hearing nonsense like this. It's a useless advised when you actually stop to think about it. Imagine someone tells you how to improve your running technique and it is generic advice. Okay, how would I improve my running technique? What exactly is wrong wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 12:45 PM |
| 0 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.The "and be handsome" part is silent lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 12:53 AM |
| 2 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.Whose going to appreciate generic dating advice that isn't really helpful at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenI would be open to the idea if they wouldn't 24/7 complain about these women using them for free food, gold digging, cheating on them, leaving them, breaking their hearts, lying to them, stb. If you know some surefire way for all men to completely avoid ever going out with women like this, feel free to make the cheat sheet. Until then, it's just as likely for the nicest guy you know to inadvertently end up on a date with a woman from the categories you just described. Redpillers experience an in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenrejections and bad relationships outcomes due to redpill tactics only working on a specific type of (let's say 'low value') women, they don't stop, they double down. Every guy has been rejected and will likely face rejection more down the line. That's just a part of life that can't be avoided. Rejection isn't a reason to not try new things. And you don't seem open to the possibility that short term flings with 'low value' women might be exactly what they want at that point of their life. Which i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Women find good men sexually appealingI don't see why not Yeah, I figured you'd say that, and that's the issue. We clearly have different interpretations of "succuss" here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:03 PM |
| 5 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenOkay buddy. If worst case scenario is things stay the same for you, meaning you were getting no women before and still are getting no women, then you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by trying new approaches. They can decide for themselves if the tactics work or not based on the results. If something doesn't work, they can move on to something else and nothing was lost. It's better than doing nothing and just hoping things magically improve on their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenSo first it's that they'll only get low value women, now it's that they'll get less women. If you're starting as an incel getting zero women, how do you get less than zero my guy? A guy in that situation has nothing to lose and everything to gain. And like I said earlier on, if one new approach doesn't work, they can drop it and try something else, until they come across a strategy that does work for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenAs opposed to the zero women they were getting previously. If what they were doing previously worked, they wouldn't be trying these approaches. At the very least if the new approaches work, even if it attracts women you consider low quality, it will help them build experience and confidence, which can help them adjust their approach to get the women they actually want later down the line. All of which is preferable to being an incel (involuntary celibate) with little to no relationship experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?with women who are just like them! Not something you can prove. Only pure speculation. Could be all kinds of women having kids with these guys as far as anyone knows. women actually do not prefer shitty men: only 1 in 3 women have been in an abusive relationship First of all, you say "only" like a third of women isn't a large amount. Second, lots of ways to be a shitty person aside from being abusive. If your only metric of success is having kids you don’t give a shit about If you have better me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:05 PM |
| 0 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenput on an act and "act like her feelings don't matter" And are there not men who do this and go through numerous women? So then how does this disprove what I previously said? If the men being seen getting the most women, fukbois, players, etc, are behaving in such a manner, then that's something that will likely be emulated by those who want to achieve the same results. Since there is no perfect formula that works for everyone, guys are going to try various things they observe those successful d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:14 PM |
| 5 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenAt best, the message would be to emulate what men who are getting the most women are doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:26 PM |
| 3 | The Red Pill Talks About Body Count, But Doesn't Know What It MeansOkay, here's a question. Say I bang everyone who comes across my path for like 10+ years. What does that say about my character, values, etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Why do you extrapolate that all women want criminals When did I make that argument? If anything, the point here is that you can't really prove women are avoiding these kinds of men, when criminals have more sexual and reproductive success than the average man whose never been convicted of any crimes. With repeat offenders having the highest fertility rates. Where's all the evidence that women don't want men like this or are actively avoiding men like this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?1) There's options to still avoid having the kid even after conception and multiple options to surrender the kid if the woman really doesn't want the kid. 2) Pretty sure most women aren't having kids by every guy they sleep with. It's a choice to let the guy hit raw, decide to carry the child for 9 months, then decide to raise this guy's kid for 18 years instead of surrendering it. Kind say what specific trait attracts them to these men to the point they're willing to have the dudes kid and be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:08 AM |
| 3 | Reddit lacks nuance when it comes to casual sexYou don't have to agree with it, but it's clearly relevant to why she said that to HER, having sex means accepting the possibility of having a kid with the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Reddit lacks nuance when it comes to casual sexSo just going to ignore the fact she said she's pro life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:59 AM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?And multiple women rewarded them with kids for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Why are you not religious?Religious communities seem to do a pretty good job of producing those outcomes. So, hopefully I'm not the only one here who thinks it would be F'd up to pretend to believe in a religion just to improve your odds of dating. Even if you're right, you should convert to something because you truly believe in it, not because you think it'll marginally increase your dating options. if you see religion tends to produce outcomes that align with your goals, why not at least support or promote it? Andrew … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?You misunderstood what I was saying. Wasn't saying that they are having 3 kids each with each woman. I was saying that as opposed to average guy who have 2-3 kids with one woman, stats show that these convicts are having 2-3 kids with a different woman each AKA 2-3 or more baby mamas. You don't think it's more impressive getting multiple woman to agree to want to have you kids vs just one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 08:22 PM |
| 7 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?A 20-30% increase just means increasing that range to 1-3 kids. A factor your not considering is that the 1-3 kids convicts are having is often with different women. So they're not just having more kids, they're having them with more women. While the average guy is having 1-2 kids with the same woman is at all. Further, if the criminality is gang related then the individual could paradoxically be seen as "a good provider" in poor areas This is kind of the point. The criminality isn't enough of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Women find good men sexually appealingYou say that like the divorce rate isn't close to 50%. Chubby agreeable dude isn't guaranteed a happy ending either. Let's run through a scenario. Say we have a woman with 3 kids by a couple of guys. She give chubby stable agreeable guy and chance to be stepdad who stepped up or whatever, but she doesn't want any more kids. Based on how you define "being successful with women," is this guy successful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:12 PM |
| 4 | Women find good men sexually appealingwho, scientifically speaking, has the most unambiguous success with women You're going to have to explain what you mean by "unambiguous success." How does that differ from success with women in the normal sense? So are overweight agreeable men getting the most women or are they not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?I don’t see how it’s a misunderstanding. AWALT doesn't have much of anything to do with instincts. I explained what I did because I find it interesting, even though it's not much related to the topic of AWALT. I already explained that the term started to mock girls who claim "they're not like that" or not like the other girls, and guys who buy into that pedastalizing mentality as well. So the actual goal of popularizing the term was to recondition guys from always believing the girl they had a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do men slut-shaming?You're literally just making up your own interpretation of what shaming means, ignoring what it actually means to shame someone. Your interpretation includes internal thoughts that aren't even shared, which doesn't make sense. How would an obese person know you don't want an LTR with them because of their weight? Especially if you've been sleeping with them. They can't read minds. For all they know you might just not want to get into a serious relationship at the moment or your personalities mig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:34 PM |
| 6 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Depends on what a guy wants and what he considers success. If a guy considers being successful in the dating market as sleeping around a lot and having a lot of different partners/options, then it makes perfect sense to follow the example of men who are accomplishing just that. If his goal is to just jump straight into an LTR and not date around much, then it might not be as helpful following those men. But then again, I'm never seen men like that struggle to get in a committed relationship when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?The claim is that all women have the same inherent biological software and hardware. Still misunderstanding AWALT, but this is also an interesting topic, so I'll bite. Humans do in fact have instincts, just like every other creature on this planet. Do men choose to be attracted to asses and titties? Do women choose to find a guy being tall attractive? Clearly, there's some reason each gender tends to be attracted to certain traits being just complete coincidence. Now, as sapient creatures we hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:10 PM |
| 4 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?We're not talking about a specific person here. We're talking about guys in general with the qualities OP described. If guys with those qualities are a priority for women and so valuable to them, that would be reflected throughout their dating history. Most of the guys they selected should have those traits, should they not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 01:59 PM |
| 8 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Did I say the women don't love their partners? The question posed by OP is whether people don't believe things like depth, loyalty, etc are valued by women. Yeah, it's valued at some point, most of us on here can at least agree with that. But if we want to know if it was always valued, a quick peek at a woman's dating history will prove or disprove that. Yes, there's truth to the saying nice guys finish last. Thing is, a lot of guys (probably most) prefer to finish first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 01:13 PM |
| 8 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Because it's stable and safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:30 PM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Says he's valued like a safety net 🫠 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:25 PM |
| 4 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Lol, you know why it matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:18 PM |
| 7 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?That's not what “AWALT” actually means. I remember when the term first started to become popular in the manosphere. It was mostly used as a joke because of how many women would say "I'm not like that" or how many naive guy would call in with stories saying "I didn't think she was like that." It was never meant to be taken literally. It was used mostly as a way to get naive guys to stop pedastalizing women they like and accept realities like the fact that just because she says she's not like that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do men slut-shaming?With obese it's a lot about sexual attraction, so that is not straightforward and tricky, even though it is objectification. It's not actually tricky. It only seems that way because you're conflating shaming, the act of publicly exposing, criticizing, or mocking an individual, with having standards and preferences. You can have preferences without publicly shaming someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:04 PM |
| 5 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?But the majority of people are married And what are their exes like? What are the men they went for first in their prime like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 11:46 AM |
| 8 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?You could literally just look at the most sexually successful men in our society and their traits, also the fertility rates of convicted crimals and see how many more partner and kids that have than the average non-felon male. We're talking upwards of 30% for violent repeat offenders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 11:44 AM |
| 20 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?The most sexually successful men in our society juggling multiple women or who have kids with numerous women, prove those traits at the very least are not required to do well with women. Sexual partner and reproductive rates of convicted criminals, especially violent repeat offenders, far exceed that of the average male whose never been convicted of anything. We're talking 20-30% more kids than the average non-offender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 11:40 AM |
| 2 | Why do men slut-shaming?Okay, so if you won't date a guy whose 5'3 is that height shaming? What if you won't date an obese person? Is that fat shaming? Why is having those preferences not also shaming? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 11:35 AM |
| 11 | Women find good men sexually appealingPersistent offenders often reported roughly 2–3 times as many sexual partners as comparable non-offenders. https://www.elgaronline.com/configurable/content/book$002f9781035322879$002fbook-part-9781035322879-19.xml?t:ac=book%24002f9781035322879%24002fbook-part-9781035322879-19.xml Offenders had fewer children per partner, but compensated by having children with more partners, resulting in fertility that exceeded the population average. Persistent/repeat offenders: roughly 20–30% more children tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 11:30 AM |
| – | the manosphere tries to hide behind a false veneer of the "us vs them" "bro code" & brotherhood but the most awful asocial people i've met were fellow men.Where to even begin. Tate isn't even an incel, he's wealthy, was popular with women before and after his notoriety, and has a daughter. We just calling anyone an incel nowadays? Do you even know what the word means? He's more aligned with Red Pillers than Black Pilled incels. I don't see how he's evidence of promoting violence. At best, he's an example of a manipulative fukboi who used his wealth and status to manipulate women but I don't see how that proves any of the points you were making ear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 09:16 PM |
| – | the manosphere tries to hide behind a false veneer of the "us vs them" "bro code" & brotherhood but the most awful asocial people i've met were fellow men.Sigh, you do realize that Black Pilled incels are a minority, even within the manosphere right? Would be like if you asked me about the average feminists opinion, and I pulled up some hot take from a Radfem about how all men need to die or be neutered like that's the most common opinion within that group. Name a single popular channel or influencer within the manosphere that's promoting violence. Not some fringe group on Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 09:04 PM |
| – | the manosphere tries to hide behind a false veneer of the "us vs them" "bro code" & brotherhood but the most awful asocial people i've met were fellow men.Should be easy to find and link all this evidence of the manosphere supporting violence, if it's so prominent as you claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 08:52 PM |
| – | the manosphere tries to hide behind a false veneer of the "us vs them" "bro code" & brotherhood but the most awful asocial people i've met were fellow men.rally behind things like the "male loneliness epidemic" God forbid a group of men agree on something. excuse violence the "betas" do. Who exactly is excusing violence? Sounds like something you made up but feel free to prove me wrong. You have evidence that violence is something the majority of manosphere is promoting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 08:42 PM |
| – | the manosphere tries to hide behind a false veneer of the "us vs them" "bro code" & brotherhood but the most awful asocial people i've met were fellow men.I don't even agree with your initial premise in the title. If you actually watch manosphere content a lot of the stuff involving dating is competitive, Alpha vs Beta type stuff. It should be clear that you compete against other men for women. Who exactly do you hear talking about a brotherhood or whatever? Sounds like you just heard what you wanted to hear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 07:00 PM |
| 1 | My husband says most men only want one thing. Is he right?Depends what's at stake. The only thing at stake in OPs scenario for the most part is the guy helping her might try to flirt with her or have alterior motives. Not life threatening, but it should be obvious why the husband wouldn't approve of that behavior and wants his wife to avoid situations where that could happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:12 PM |
| 1 | My husband says most men only want one thing. Is he right?If you have an exact number or percentage of men, feel free to present it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for.So your answer to the post would be that it's okay to be the "good enough" option or last resort, just so long as the treatment you receive is fair? Just want to clarify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do men slut-shaming?Because you're initial statement was about whether men (in general I'm assuming) see lustful women as ugly. So my question is also regarding men (in general). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Why do men slut-shaming?So then my previous example should be fine, so long as I didn't go out of my way to slander the woman or hurt her feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather? Single vs. Cuckoldwould he then rather accept his place as a “beta” or even a cuck if the alternative in his mind would be to be forever alone. As far as being a beta, nothing inherently wrong with being a beta. In the same way there's nothing wrong with being average. But most people don't wake up thinking "I want to be average for the rest of my life." It's just most won't achieve what's necessary to become noticeable above average, so the majority of people end up living average lives. But there's a big differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 01:20 PM |
| 3 | Who told men being nice would lead to sex?You're missing the point. She's made multiple posts arguing how men aren't getting sex/relationships because they aren't agreeable (nice) enough. Then she turns around and makes posts like this asking "whose telling men they need to be nice to get sex/relationships?" You don't see the irony here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:51 AM |
| – | Why did I start getting more women by implementing toxic, narcissistic and manipulative behaviors?Naw, he's right. If you're on here long enough, there's always a Blue Pillers that says dumb shit like that at one point or another. It's even less believable than the RP claims of becoming an assertive dick and getting more women. At least the latter is something most guys have seen play out in real life and can test themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 09:54 AM |
| – | Why did I start getting more women by implementing toxic, narcissistic and manipulative behaviors?And what if you are the sort of who wants to? If society will continue to reward the behavior with little to reprocussions, means they don't really give a shit either. What exactly is the punishment for being a fukboi or player? What's the cost for getting everything you want that way? Doesn't seem to be one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do men slut-shaming?Now we're just leaning into personal preference territory. But my previous question remains, can you not think of literally any reasons why a guy might turn down dating a prostitute? I'm not asking what you would do personally here. I'm asking what you believe the average guy who is not you would do in that situation and reasons they would make that choice, whether you agree with those reasons or not isn't really relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 09:43 AM |
| 2 | Why do men slut-shaming?So, in your opinion, is it possible for a guy to have a preference for not dating a woman with many sexual partners and stick to his standards without shaming the woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 09:38 AM |
| 11 | Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for.You say that, and yet when I pose the following question the answers from women say otherwise. What if we have a woman who dated/hooked up with very attractive men in her youth. She gets older, none of the previous men stuck around, and she decides she wants to focus on something more secure that will last. She starts seeing a guy who she knows isn't as attractive as the previous guys she's been with and isn't the kind of guy she would have hooked up with in her youth. But she likes his personal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Would you rather? Single vs. CuckoldIsn’t the whole red pill belief kinda based on “natural”, biological preferences and mating theory? That's just to explain why people have the preferences they have, such as why women still have a preference for height in 2026. It's not used as an instruction manual or anything like that. So not sure how this connects to cuckolding. Being a cuck definitely isn't a biological preference of men, in fact, there's tons more evidence proving that the risk of a man being cucked by a particular woman i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Men on here are contradictoryGuys who are okay with fat chicks and single mothers etc. Not sure why the specific type of guy matters here or what that changes about the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Men on here are contradictoryWith men. Maybe not always the men they want but they have options nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonWhat specifically does this contradict about what I said exactly? We're women in general being more lustful than men a commonly accepted fact in Victorian era? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:19 PM |
| 2 | My husband says most men only want one thing. Is he right?It's impossible to know what percentage of guys are being genuinely nice vs having alterior motives. Nobody can know that, not even your husband. However, some people like to lean more on the cautious side because why not? Do you lock you door when you go out because you believe most of your neighbors are planning to rob you? Or do you do it in the off chance someone does try to rob you, you'll be prepared for it? When it comes to a man's family, their wives, daughters, etc, of course they'll le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:09 PM |
| 8 | Work on yourself is useless advicePeople say go to the gym, but also not to go for the sake of finding a partner so that’s kinda weird. Problem is you're trying to make sense of female and Blue Pilled advice, which isn't really possible as it's almost always contradictory. They want men to get good at everything, fit, social, be good at flirting while not trying to intentionally get good at these things. They like the end results but don't like peeking into the kitchen to see how the food is made. Just take what they say with a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather? Single vs. CuckoldSo your decision would be solely based on internal feelings of shame? You say that like carrying shame for the rest of your life is just no big deal. It’s not printed on your forehead that you’re engaging in such a relationship model. But I'd know, and that's enough. What I’m taking away here is basically that the subjective emotions of pride/shame Can you explain how there is more merit to being completely shameless and without a shred of dignity? Why is that an existence people should be striv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather? Single vs. CuckoldSingle, easy. Don't even need to read the rest of this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Why do men slut-shaming?Naw, but would your average dude commit to a prostitute if she was pretty? I think you know the answer to that is usually going to be "no," and you could probably come to some conclusions why that is the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:25 PM |
| 15 | Why do men slut-shaming?Can we breakdown what constitutes slut shaming here? So if I start seeing a chick, found out through friends or around the block that she's hooked up with a bunch of people I know, and I choose to stop seeing her, was she slut shamed? What if I never tell her the reason I wanted to stop seeing her and just tell her something vague like it just isn't working out, is that slut shaming her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:12 PM |
| 12 | Who told men being nice would lead to sex?She already made multiple posts saying men need to be agreeable to do better with women, directly contradicting this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:01 PM |
| 5 | Who told men being nice would lead to sex?She can't answer without contradicting herself lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 02:54 PM |
| 6 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"And it's up to them if they find a relationship where they are the good enough stable option acceptable or not. I personally wouldn't accept that but to each their own. And to be clear, I'm not talking about more conservative women that have never been that way towards any guy. I'm talking about women who have shown that level of desire towards a man, have had hookups, but the man they are currently with doesn't evoke those feelings from them. I don't see the merit of being on the opposite side … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"it's not unreasonable as a matter of fact. That is, (even if I wouldn't say it), it doesn't mean she's settling from the perspective of her own values. I kind of want to address this point before any of the others. For a woman that has had hookups before with men and is now with a man who she knows she would not have hooked up with during that time, what kind of answer could there be for why that was that could be reasonable to the guy listening to this and justify him staying in that relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Are you actually turned on by 'traditionally feminine' BEHAVIOURS from women?Traditionally feminine behaviors more so bring men peace of mind than being physically arousing. For instance, being agreeable vs combative. Men hate introducing more stress and chaos into their lives than necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 01:19 AM |
| 8 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"I said rolling out all the stops not desiring her. Wine and dining her, princess treatment etc. You gauge desire through actions because people aren't mind readers. We can't psychically scope our partners brains to get exact metrics on exactly how much they desire us. So my answer is the same as my previous comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?""good enough to hook up with" the standard? this was not the kind of guy I would've just hooked up with. There's a difference between "you're not the kind of guy I would hookup with" and "you're not the kind of guy I would just want to hookup with." The later statement implies you would hookup with him, but you also want more than that. There is a scenario where say a woman might meet a nerdy engineer. Not the kind of guy that had she glanced at in the bar, she would have thought was attractive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 01:02 AM |
| 8 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"what’s more surprising is that men who aren’t particularly desirable would expect to be desired It shouldn't that surprising that if your expected to commit to someone and marry them, vowing to be with them till death, they should have a high level of desire for you. If not, why be with that person? Do you think men who aren’t going to roll out the stops for a woman shouldn’t pursue them for sex or marriage. I think it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to not want to have sex with or marry a gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 12:39 AM |
| 5 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"It sounds like (from your first paragraph) that any guy who isn't "Tinder hookup material" is being settled for then, yes? Yeah. If I was with a woman who didn't think I was good enough to hookup with then she definitely settled and I'd prefer she date that guy instead of wasting any more of my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 12:22 AM |
| 18 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Women don’t “desire” their average partners like that. They just don’t. Key word here is they don't desire their average partners in this way. Doesn't mean they don't desire their above average partners or flings in that way. Do they want them to pretend or act ravenous anyway? I think they would prefer no pretending or gaslighting about their interest level towards the average guy they ended up with. Which should include not pushing the average guy for lifelong commitments like marriage and hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 11:13 PM |
| 9 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Did I say that? The question posed by op is what would be viewed as settling and I just explained that. How the guy she eventually ends up with feels about the matter wouldn't change whether she settled or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 07:51 PM |
| 12 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Depends on her dating history. If a woman has a history of Chad chasing then as she got older shifted to dating more average dudes, that could definitely be a sign that she lowered her standards and is entering "settling" mode. I wouldn't think that of a woman whose always mostly dated average Joes even in her prime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 03:08 PM |
| 4 | Putting in less effort in attracting women actually works.Lust or physical attraction gets your attention Exactly. Nothing even initiates if you're not physically attracted to the person in the first place. So, step one is making yourself physically appealing to the opposite sex so you can get their attention and crate that initial attraction. Someone who can't do that could be single for that very reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 02:59 PM |
| 7 | Putting in less effort in attracting women actually works.So, a lot of women on this sub say they don't find the majority of men attractive. Do you think they're getting to know all the men they meet or interact with to such a level that they can tell things like their willingness to be vulnerable and that's why they don't find most men attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 01:34 PM |
| 3 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeI didn't say they didn't at all care. The point is that unless it reaches a point people consider abnormal, it's not going to effect the average persons options much at all. The same way an average guy with a few past partners won't raise any eyebrows, but if a guy was still a virgin or incel (involuntary celibate) at age 25 or older, women would judge a guy like that because that situation is abnormal and it likely will effect his options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonBut not all men want love. And not all 100% of all women on the planet want love. There are exceptions to everything if you want to be literal about it, but how is that helpful when discussing what is true for most of the general population? Some men want love sure, but a lot just want to feel respected, sexually desired, and have a woman that will bear their children. Do you not realize this isn't a one or the other kind of deal? Usually if you love someone you also respect them, sexually desir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 5 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeThe only time we don't lose value in society's eyes in regards to men is if we married as a virgin or died before having sex. You know this is bull. Nobody in general cares if a woman has had a few boyfriends or partners and this doesn't really effect women's dating options much at all. It's only when it's gets to an above average level that men start to wonder why other men potentially didn't want to commit to this women despite many entering her life. In that same way a woman who meets a guy w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI assume women mean around 1950's when they refer women essentially needing to pair up for survival. That's my best guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonDepends on when they noticed this. Noticing your wife isn't feeling it after marriage and two kids during a time where no fault divorce wasn't really a thing. What the fuck are you going to do about it at that point? You're still going to be expected to take care of that family, are you not? And if the woman's goal is to find a stable guy for survival, it wouldn't exactly work in her benefit to make it obvious she's not truly interested in the guy from day one. How would that help her? So, yeah,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:47 PM |
| 3 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonSince when did the term "having options" mean you can literally have anyone you want? It just means you have options, plural, more than one. Just take the statement at face value instead of injecting a bunch of alternative meanings to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonIndeed. That doesn't mean "average dudes had options". Answer this question for me, if your a woman during a time where you need to get married young, you can't really fool around with a hot player who you know won't take you seriously due to risk of pregnancy and your reputation, and dating apps do not exist so it's not like you can increase your scope of options beyond your own town, who else will you be dating if not the average guys around you in this scenario? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:40 PM |
| 25 | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeWomen reject anything that is a threat to their options or makes them feel insecure. They'll come up with 101 justifications for it but once you notice the pattern, it becomes predictable. Say you want to date abroad, you want an indentured servant or slave. Say you prefer younger women, your a pedo or ageist. Say you prefer skinny women, you're fat phobic. The list goes on and on. Now with AI it's that men are going to abuse the sexbots or AI and somehow this will make them abusive to real wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. Simple, if the claim here is that the fault of women filing divorces at a higher rate falls on men because they're supposedly not good at working on relationships or whatnot, the same pattern should be seen among gay men, yet they have the lowest rates of divorce. On the flip side of that, lesbian relationships which obviously do not involve any men have the highest rate of divorce, even higher than heterosexual marriages. The results are not showin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYou don't think people preferred certain potential spouses over others? Sure, but they couldn't afford to fool around with guys who wouldn't take them seriously or go steady with them. The risk to reputation, the risk of pregnancy, and the societal pressure to get married young all contributed to why women wouldn't waste their time chasing men that don't want them, because they couldn't afford to do that then. Today women can waste a decade plus being in a situationship with a dude, being the si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonHusbands are very likely to refuse to go, indicating an unwillingness to put genuine effort into having a healthy relationship. I figured you would try to spin the blame on women divorcing on men's shoulders. But there's a data point that puts a flaw in that argument. The same pattern can be seen among gay couples, with lesbians having the highest rate of divorce and gay men having the lowest. Infidelity is a major factor in up to 50% of straight divorces. Rate of cheating between men and women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonThe point is that, "but grandpa had it so good, so it's unfair for me to not have a participation trophy wife, too," isn't based in reality. Except I never said anything about how good grandpa supposedly had it. If anything, I'm saying men in the past were more naive because of puritan ideas about women, like chastity, etc. Has nothing to do with how good grandpa got it. My point is modern men are less naive about these things than men born in eras prior (before the 70's), and their behaviors to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:58 PM |
| 8 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Yeah, it might be dumb to marry "just" for sex, but on the flip side of that almost nobody enters a marriage thinking sex will just stop or willingly enters a sexless relationship (yeah, I know asexuals exist but they're not the norm). Let's revisit your house analogy, you may not buy a house just for the bathroom, but I also assume you wouldn't be pleased to buy a house expecting a bathroom, only to realize their is not a single one there. Just because people don't marry solely for sex, doesn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonSome certainly do, just like some guys certainly do. So then what exactly are you trying to "debunk" here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:25 AM |
| 4 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYeah, most average women end up with average guys...in the end. What about before that? You don't think any flings, situationships, or fwbs situations might have occured prior to meeting hubby that could have includes men that weren't so average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:13 AM |
| -6 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonSo, do you believe the average guy can find love today? Why would finding a wife who loves you be possible today but not possible for men in the past? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonIf we're talking about a time before the sexual revolution, where women supposedly had to be wed, it would be drastically different from today. Unlike today women wouldn't have to luxury to fool around with a guy who won't take them seriously and stay indefinitely single, so they would be pairing up with average guys local to them at a much higher frequency. The result of that would be the average guy having a lot more options during that time period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:09 AM |
| 0 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonHow does this relate to anything I actually said tho? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:20 PM |
| 4 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonActual Madonna-Whore complex is when a man can only view women he sees as a whore in a sexual light but can't view women they see as pure (Madonna) in a sexual manner. Which as you can tell is extremely rare because most guys have no problem feeling arousal for their gfs or wives, no matter how "pure" or "virtuous" they thought they were. This is why Madonna-Whore complex is mostly considered an unproven theory and not a fact as barely any men have ever suffered from this complex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI'm trying to understand what you seem to think femcels are. You do realize they're not the same as 4B right? They basically self proclaim to be the female version of incels from the conversations I had with them. They're not happy being femcels anymore than an incel would be happy being an involuntary celibate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:19 PM |
| 7 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI don't think you know what Madonna-whore complex actually is... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonMost don't. Burden of proof is on you to prove that claim is true and applies to any significant number of men in the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:10 PM |
| -2 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasongotta love referencing how so many women of the past didn’t love their husbands because they didn’t really have a choice in marrying them 1) I said this is the claim certain modern women make, and what conclusions it leads to if one chooses to believe these claims. 2) Women pretty much always had choices on men to marry, even during times where they couldn't just stay single forever. But sure, some probably settled if they didn't have a lot of suitors and in those cases I highly doubt they would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYou think grandpa cared it wasn't love? Yeah, I do. Because everybody wants love and grandpa had options. It's not like the only woman who could fulfill the role of a wife is a woman that doesn't love him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonSo once again your chief complaint is that women do the same thing men do? Did I make a complaint? How about trying to read the actual post and just questioning points I actually made, instead of just making things up? OKCupid survey says the exact opposite of what red pill claims. Well now I'm curious. What was said that proves the opposite? The difference being that Neo didn't plug himself into the Matrix He was born and raised into it, just like most men are raised believing many mainstream B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 08:53 PM |
| -4 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYou're a moron if you believe that the men didn't know this. Riddle me this, if these men knew from the jump that these women didn't like them, why wouldn't they just date and marry someone else instead? Next you'll be saying they also had a sixth sense to detect that they were getting cucked or that little Timmy isn't their kid but the Milkman's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 08:37 PM |
| -1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonKind of says more about the company you keep than anything. Would be like me claiming most women are backstabbing golddiggers because all my female friends are. Completely ignoring the obvious fact that I pick my friends. Just like you pick what guys you want to hang out with or date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 08:18 PM |
| 7 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI literally say that becoming less naive and not pedastalizing women is a good thing. Viewing them as equals with equal vices and equal flaws =/= feelings being hurt. It equates to having a more realistic understanding of reality and moving accordingly. Men move different because they accepted that and this is a good for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 08:09 PM |
| 0 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonMen have never had a problem fucking women who didn’t want to fuck them Majority of guys are not rapists, having sex with women without their consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:56 PM |
| -9 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI like that your takeaway is that women feigned love instead of men not giving a shit how they felt as long as they "submitted" and obeyed. So we're just going to assume these men had mind reading capabilities and just somehow knew all the woman's true feelings and chose to commit to them anyway? This isn't the Middle East. Women still had choices of men they could pair off with. I'm sure if the guy knew for a fact his wife didn't love him, most wouldn't commit. You don't think they wouldn't pre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:54 PM |
| 13 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonDo women really want that? I have to believe some do because on more than a few occasions I've gotten into discussions with women on here who argue that women are more ethical or less superficial than men in terms of dating or selecting a partner for no other reason than because they are women. It just doesn't make sense for some people to argue that unless they like that perception of being viewed as more moral or virtue signaling that they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:38 PM |
| 0 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonI'm pretty sure that the only difference between the average woman who can't get commitment from a guy they want and femcels, is that femcels choose to be celebate while they're single. However, I'm not an expert on femcels, just read a few posts from them but could be wrong about whatever it is they stand for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:33 PM |
| 4 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonQuote where I said anything implying that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:16 PM |
| 6 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonUhhhhhhh who told you this was exclusive to women? Literally never said anything to imply that. "majority of women going for the same small percentage of top men" is bullshit. I mean, the dating app stats back it up alongside the numerous scenarios of women sharing certain guys. And before you say most of them end up with average dudes at the end of the day, if a ton of people apply to get in to a popular college but don't get in, they still end up going to their second or third choice school. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 07:03 PM |
| 3 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonLots of men don't care if their wife "truly" loves them. I'm calling bullshit on that. Everybody wants to experience love and if they have a family, they want to have it with someone who loves them. I don't think it's absurd to say most people feel this way. Men are not emotionless machines. They have all the same emotions women have, so what makes you believe they don't also desire to be loved like women do? We're all human, are we not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Esther Perel on Oprah.Okay, let's say she's wrong about the woman wanting a guy whose willing to drive her around places. How many of these other items would you say she's flat out wrong about? "...a man to be an excellent communicator, and a great lover, and want children, and be good with them, and a great cook, and protect you" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 05:16 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: Would you step in and support a single mom if the reason why she ended up in that situation is a noble, respectable reason?I have more of an issue with baby mamas than single mothers as a whole. I would definitely be more open to the relationship if she was a widow but it's still likely to be harder that dating a childless woman. But I'd probably give it a shot depending on where I am at that point in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Esther Perel on Oprah.You're missing the point. She's pointing out the fact that the original list of things given is not actually the full list. There's plenty of instances of women saying they just want a "good" or "nice" man, but there's a dozen or so other things they're vetting for as well and that's not even the top item on the list. That is the "myth" she is talking about. That what the women stated was actually all she wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 03:11 PM |
| 2 | There will never be a solution to mens issues because 🔵BP society effectively sees intersexual dynamics as a zero sum game (where accommodating one side means taking away from the other)That is exactly what the sub was created for though Yeah, as a result of manosphere content. The sub only exists as a result of the manosphere, meaning these discussions we're having wouldn't be had if the manosphere didn't exist. Because these takes have nothing to do with mens rights. Men's issues aren't all tied to rights, some involve mental health, loneliness, etc. The left caring about mens rights and mental health won't help And them not caring helped? Now they've been forced to start tak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 02:09 PM |
| 2 | There will never be a solution to mens issues because 🔵BP society effectively sees intersexual dynamics as a zero sum game (where accommodating one side means taking away from the other)So you're saying there aren't really any male centered voices None that were vocal enough where discussions like this are now mainstream. Vast majority of Blue Pillers on this sub are ironically only talking about male issues as a result of something they heard from the manosphere. Usually in opposition of it but still, most would not be having the discussion if it wasn't for that. They say disgusting and horrific things about women. Of course people respond to that. Literally proving my point. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:38 PM |
| 4 | There will never be a solution to mens issues because 🔵BP society effectively sees intersexual dynamics as a zero sum game (where accommodating one side means taking away from the other)Yet other western countries have abolished the draft, ended circumcision, addressed men’s mental health, pushed for equal custody and so on Well, none of this has been accomplished in my Western country, so my point remains the same. Discussions about these things were not mainstream in a place like the USA before the manosphere. Would be like saying feminists aren't necessary because places like Denmark exist. anti feminist countries are falling behind, there’s a reason there’s a split between … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:27 PM |
| 5 | There will never be a solution to mens issues because 🔵BP society effectively sees intersexual dynamics as a zero sum game (where accommodating one side means taking away from the other)Nobody said anything about sexist men, only undesirable men was mentioned here. This idea that women are primarily filtering guys based on how much of a feminist they are or their level of virtue has long since been proven to be bullshit. Exhibit A, just look at their exes, especially the ones of women who like claim guys they dated were narcissists over and over again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:15 PM |
| 6 | Ideas of ways to be less resentfulI don't know what your type is or what you find attractive. The point remains that if there are a bunch of good men but they aren't men you are attracted to, is it going to matter how good they are or how many of them they are? Chances are, you are only going to pay attention to and judge men you actually consider an option AKA men you would actually date. If that is only a handful of men, how can you make a broadstokes judgement about how many men in general or good or moral, when you're only a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 03:21 AM |
| 3 | There will never be a solution to mens issues because 🔵BP society effectively sees intersexual dynamics as a zero sum game (where accommodating one side means taking away from the other)Their solution is for men to die alone quietly. Out of sight, out of mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 02:44 AM |
| 0 | There will never be a solution to mens issues because 🔵BP society effectively sees intersexual dynamics as a zero sum game (where accommodating one side means taking away from the other)There will never be solutions to men's issues as long as the loudest voices for men's issues are the manosphere You act like there was ample discussion on male problems before the manosphere. They're not just the loudest voices, they're essentially the only voices. People outside the manosphere only seem to give a shit in response to what someone in the manosphere said and arguing against those points. If the manosphere suddenly went quiet, pretty much nobody would be talking about male issues a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 02:43 AM |
| 9 | Ideas of ways to be less resentfulI feel like there is a much smaller percentage of men who are genuinely good people and care about things outside themselves. This gets brought up a lot and the problem for women is the same as it always is. Women are not just filtering for "good" or "nice" men. There's a bunch of other traits usually being factored in as well. So many women on this sub admit that they don't find the majority of guys attractive, only a minority is really their type. You don't think there's a bunch of men in that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 02:36 AM |
| 2 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?Because guys tend to really like food and home cooked meals. This isn't a secret or anything. There's a reason the saying always was "the way to a man's heart is his stomach." If it ain't broke, don't fix it. People keep trying to reinvent the wheel and discover things that were already revealed long ago. Men are mostly the same and still like the same things they always have for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:27 AM |
| 0 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?Not the point. The point is there can't be one directional gender role expectations and then claim that's reciprocal. It's a fact that there are still there are still things men are expected to do because they are men, even in the West. So that argument just doesn't fly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 01:22 AM |
| 1 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?We're going to pretend like it's all reciprocal in the West? Expecting guys to make the first move or pay for dinner isn't reciprocal. So long as male gender role expectations keep existing it will never be reciprocal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 12:34 AM |
| 0 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?I like it if someone does chores for me. Then what's so difficult to understand here? Guys like the gestures and the effort being put towards them, the end. They sort of fetishize it as a submissive act You're adding unneeded additional meaning. Like you said in the first sentence, you can literally just like the action at face value with no deeper meaning being needed behind it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:48 PM |
| 0 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?It's weird to enjoy someone making you a home cooked meal and tidying up your living environment? Make that make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:20 PM |
| 19 | If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass.Okay, but according to OP women are "exhausted" because they can't find men who will meet their list of demands. If women are so happy with work and being indefinitely single doesn't bother them, why do they give a shit about finding men to meet these demands or convincing men to do this? The math isn't mathing here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 07:04 PM |
| -8 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?Largely western women don't...most western women cannot imagine marriage in which either of their parents are involved They don't involve them when things are going well, but they don't shy away from involving them when shit hits the fan and it's to their benefit to do. Plenty of evidence of this can be found in r/marriage. Say a guy and his partner have a kid together and a few years later he find out the kid isn't his and wants to nope out of the whole situation. You honestly believe the woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:55 PM |
| -2 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?using shame, family pressure, in-laws, etc. to get what they want. You say this like Western women never do this. More than this, spending money on you and cooking for you are not signs of respect, Guys enjoy being treated in such a manner. Whether you choose to call that respect or something else doesn't really matter. The bottom line is they prefer that treatment to the treatment they normally get at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:31 PM |
| 2 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsI just asked questions. You came to your own conclusions from that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:09 PM |
| 10 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsWhile I don’t agree with op 100% the fact that women can have sex with any guy from the streets doesn’t prove anything because women don’t want that/don’t do that It literally disproves OPs claim in the title of the post, that women can't get sex/relationships easier. Now whether or not the sex/relationships live up to their standards is a different question entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:56 PM |
| 6 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsYou're claim in the title is that men don't struggle more, not whether or not men have sex within their lifetime. If men don't struggle more then women should not get any better results than the man in the scenarios I just brought up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!"Okay, but "better" can be a lot of things. You specified that modern men in 2026 are looking for women more moral or virtuous than themselves. What evidence is there that the majority of men are doing this? To be fair, I do believe this was the case in the past, I just don't think it accurately reflects how a lot of men of then generation are dating or selecting. Purity culture mindset is the minority now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:15 PM |
| 12 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsSo if a guy and woman both go around offering sex, whose getting more takers? If a guy and a woman both create a Tinder account, whose getting more matches and likes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:08 PM |
| 0 | Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!"So your just making baseless claims essentially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!"Why are we just assuming the women they date are more virtuous and moral like that's just an objective fact? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenBoth mention prejudice, which is why I focused on what makes misogyny different from sexism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 08:36 PM |
| 4 | Misogyny comes from protecting women's social privilege, not negative experiences with womenI mean, that's not really misogyny. "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women or girls." What you described is sexism. "Sexism refers to prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination on the basis of sex or gender." Though I suppose nowadays people just started using them interchangeably. The big difference here is that misogyny involves having actual contempt for women, not just thinking yourself better than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:23 PM |
| 1 | If a woman goes for a guy for his money but she is in her early 20s then it isn't AFBBLet this be a reminder that modern women do in fact settle for various reasons. Despite the common narrative here being that any woman who fails to land their ideal Chad just stays single, unmarried, and childless till death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Why do BluePill people give such generic and crappy dating advice?Because a lot of Blue Pillers also believe in Just World Fallacys. A guy whose a decent human being but failing to get a date doesn't register in their world view. To them, if you're failing it's because your secretly a misogynist or have some other moral failing. Otherwise, if you're a good person, things should just magically fall into place eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 01:34 AM |
| – | Why do guys downgrade?Great sex doesn't mean everything else in the relationship was perfect. He might not want to go into details about the issues though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 01:30 AM |
| – | Why do guys downgrade?Why do some guys leave the girl they think is perfect for them just to settle down with someone that's below their standards? How do you know he thought the previous girl was perfect? Like you said, it wouldn't make sense for him to leave if he actually truly felt that way. As always, actions speak louder than words. If he left it's because he didn't feel his partner was that perfect. Had to be some flaws he didn't want to deal with long term. Only exception I can think of is maybe a guy is in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 01:29 AM |
| 2 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..Only if you honestly believe women suddenly stopped being attracted to traditionally masculine men and suddenly started getting wet for men not afraid to be in touch with their feminine side and more emotional, which isn't backed by anything to prove that but your more than free to believe it anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 01:20 AM |
| -1 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..It's not that difficult to just not air out your political beliefs in every conversation. "Pretending" for short term hookups wouldn't explain why conservative men are much more likely to get married and more than twice as likely to reproduce than liberal men. And I say this as a guy who pretty much always votes left for the most part. Gotta call a spade a spade. I have eyeballs and the stats speak for themselves. When it comes to relationships, conservative men are getting all the results they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Single fathers are substantially wealthier, less likely to be poor I keep forgetting that money is what instills core values and determins whether you are a good person or not. Who needs parents when you have money? Until you control for those differences, you haven’t shown fathers are causing the outcome. Well of course. How could actual parenting play a role here at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:32 PM |
| 8 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..I think the data is pretty clear that most women are unattracted to manosphere or right wing men. And I'm sure the opposite, very empathetic emotionally vulnerable left wing male feminists are just beating women off with a stick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Single fathers are typically much financially advantaged I reiterate: "Since when was good parenting reliant entirely on what's in your bank account?" Single fathers also, often have women in the home. What's the common denominator between single father households and two parent households? Both have a father in the picture. Coincidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:02 PM |
| 3 | How good would women be at dating if they had to be men for a year and date women?If you end up “friendzoned” then just move on and warm approach someone else. Sure, but failure is failure. And this type of approach/rejection wasn't much more time and effort than had you just hit on a woman at a bar and been instantly rejected. The point is that there is no "easy" way or "trick" that will make one type of approach significantly more successful than another. They all have pros and cons. Women claiming they'll have an advantage in dating if they become women because they know h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 3 | Why do women hate the avg man?Women seem to have a general dislike towards anything considered "average" for some reason. You ask them to rate themselves or others and it's always 7.5 or higher, if they don't rate everyone a 10. I think they just believe being average or not standing out is the worst thing imaginable for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:36 PM |
| – | Bluepill solution to a deadbedroom can work but it's not optimal for a man.Gonna have to disagree with you on this one bud. I can't cosign advising people to cheat. Doing chores and going to marriage counseling are things both individuals should be doing in a marriage. I hate using the term "bare minimum" but in this case it really is the bare minimum you can do to try to fix things with the person you're married to. Now, on the flip side, I believe it's fine to date or sleep around once your separated even if the divorce isn't finalized yet, because sometimes that can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:32 PM |
| 4 | How good would women be at dating if they had to be men for a year and date women?1) You brought up approaching in your initial comment so I was directly responding to your comment on women getting used to approaching. 2) I agree that through friends and school is easier (if done right, as guys could also end up friendzoned trying to get the know the girl by being friends with her first) as I met my wife through friends. 3) Relying on friends to hook you up can be very infrequent and they might have zero idea what you like in a partner. More often than not the guy will still … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:58 PM |
| 3 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Your average guy isn't a predator and not just every Average Joe is getting hookups regularly or at all. Clearly there's more that goes into a woman selecting a guy to hookup with than just "not being a predator." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:47 PM |
| 3 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"And yet somehow kids raised by single fathers perform so much better. Since when was good parenting reliant entirely on what's in your bank account? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:41 PM |
| 5 | How good would women be at dating if they had to be men for a year and date women?What? Women have conversations all the time. Yeah, with people they know well. That's not the same as the situation we're discussing where a random guy they don't know comes up to them and starts chatting them up. They're not exactly chatty Kathy's opening up completely to random dudes, which is part of the difficulty in cold approaching. Having to get them comfortable and keep them interested through the conversation you initiated out of the blue. And this just feeds into my point. Since most w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:35 PM |
| 20 | How good would women be at dating if they had to be men for a year and date women?It's not just the approaching though. They would have to also learn how to lead the conversation, flirt, create interest in this stranger, come off as excited, and all while hoping they don't come off as creepy from the jump. Most women have never had to do all this because they're used to judging the guy approaching them on these things. Women would have to learn to be the guy being judged in these situations and just because a woman might know what she would like to hear and what would interes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Women who marry men have shorter life spans and the men who marry women live longer. Why is this? It's your job to explain the what the causation is, if there even is one, since you're the one making the claim that marriage affects lifespan directly. So yeah, why is that? Yes, men are more likely to go to prison. Men raised by single mothers are most likely to go to prison and the vast majority of men in prison were raised by single moms. Men do work longer hours but, when you factor in househol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:30 PM |
| 7 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Wtf is that even supposed to mean? Yeah, most guys aren't predators. What's your point with that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:23 PM |
| 6 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.It means to make sense of something that at face value doesn't make sense. Like trying to fit a square block into a circular slot. <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:51 PM |
| 4 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Men needing to pay for the first date. How is that not a gender role? Why do strong independent women still need that in 2026? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Let's see, a list of requirements.... Don't know why you expect me believe you would of your own free will list anything that would make you look bad based on what I commented earlier. Also, there's a lot vagueness around what you contribute to a guy being attractive and ambitious but I digress. Not worth getting into. Women are staying single instead of bending or lowering their requirements. Even on this sub there are women are say they changed their requirements for looks among other things. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:38 PM |
| 4 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?I never said it was good or bad. Though, maybe men should care about income. Especially if they are whining about paying for first dates and wanting to go 50/50. They care because a lot of women like to parrot feminist talking points and push how gender roles are bad, yet are fine enforcing gender roles for men when it's convenient for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:23 PM |
| 5 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Believing this is why so many of y'all struggle. Except I didn't, and am married. Which I get tired of repeating on this sub. Average women date average men. How does this change my answer to the question of why there's so many more single women this generation? All one has to do is ask a women to list her requirements for a guy and based on that you can gauge whether that guy falls into average or above average based on how many men can meet that full list of requirements. Doesn't mean they can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:20 PM |
| 7 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Who the fuck cares about those dudes or the women they get? You literally asked for examples of disrespectful men who get the most women, and I gave you exactly that. Now you're made that I gave you what you asked for? Care to add Russell Wilson to that as the respectful guy who came in who is called “dad” by Futures own son? So he gets to have the honor of raising one of Future's many kids? The son is named after Future btw, so literally carrying on the legacy of his real dad. And this is what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:10 PM |
| 7 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Not all people are trustworthy, that's not a gendered issue. That's the entire reason we vet our partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:03 PM |
| 4 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.There's a middle ground between being a 'nice guy' and complete asshole. Just because a guy abandons giving a shit about being viewed as nice doesn't mean he's now fully committing himself to becoming a narcissist. Some guys might naturally just fall into that category because that's their personality, but ultimately who cares if they're still successful regardless. If it actually mattered they wouldn't be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?I'd say one of the biggest factor is women entering the work force. This matters because of how women vet. Generally women do not like to feel like they are dating down. The better they do, the better they expect the guy they pair up with to be doing. This is why on so many of those dating shows you hear women say, "I do XYZ and make such and such amount, so I expect a guy making about the same or more." This isn't even factoring in their looks criteria or any of their other criteria yet. But th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:53 PM |
| 7 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Because men can still get women without those and men max those out can still be incels. It is in fact the default state for a lot of young men, but it doesn't stay that way once they realize that it doesn't really effect their attractiveness to women as much as they thought it would, so they begin focusing on other things and stop giving a shit about how how much of a "nice guy" they are. Nice guys finish last for a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:10 PM |
| 8 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Obviously being respectful doesn’t make someone more attractive if they’re not meeting a woman’s basic threshold for attractiveness in the first place If having those other attractive metrics allows men to get women, even men who aren't super respectful, even borderline narcissistic. And men who lack those other things that make them attractive and are respectful end up in the friendzone. Maybe men should be focusing more on those other attractive traits than so much on the respectful factor lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:05 PM |
| 6 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Leonardo Di'Caprio is known for smashing and eventually passing young women when they age out but still gets them, is that respectful? Is baby mama merchant Future respectful? Is Andrew Tate who still gets new girlfriends and has a daughter now respectful? Are fukbois and players know for being respectful? So again, when exactly did this become an absolute requirement for men to be successful with women? Did it occur in my lifetime? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:02 PM |
| 9 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Most men can respect women without needed pussy. Okay, but the title of your post is that Red Pill men will do everything to get women except be respectful, but now you're saying they shouldn't be respectful to get women. So this post should just be ignored then? Again, pick a lane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:51 PM |
| 9 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?I think it has more to do with women's standards increasing with each generation. I don't think women suddenly in great number stopped desiring relationships and a family. What I think is most likely occuring is that that standards of the average women are increasing and filtering for mostly above average men, but clearly there's not enough above average men to pair up with every woman and they view a lot of average guys as not hot enough or good enough, so they get stuck in a perpetually single… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:48 PM |
| 8 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.If you're going to make an argument that this is something men absolutely need to be doing then that should be backed up by evidence such as 1) men doing this getting the girls they want and laid often, or 2) men not doing shouldn't be getting the most women. But we both know one is sketchy and two is just plan false, so this whole argument is based on feelings of how things should work and not actually based on reality. Sure, it should be a requirement that men have to be respectful to women to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:40 PM |
| 15 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.If being respectful and agreeable made guys so irresistible to women, why are so many of those guys in the friendzone? Square that circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:30 PM |
| – | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.Lilith has to be on disability or something. No way she has a fulltime job and the time to make this many posts and respond to comments on every one of them. That's a full time job in and of itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:25 PM |
| 14 | Redpill guys will do anything to get women except being respectful to women.I thought you ladies took issue with guys being nice and respectful to get ass? Now that's exactly what you want? Gotta pick a lane at some point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:23 PM |
| 1 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.It could easily be long term success. You think Leonardo Di'Caprio can't settle down with any of the numerous women he's dated if he felt like it? Once a man has numerous options available to him, some of those options can definitely be elevated to a long term relationship or marriage. What's stopping them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:26 AM |
| 3 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItPlenty of women aim for guys who are very handsome and successful, even average women. That's not at all a rare occurrence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 02:19 AM |
| 4 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.So she did get Chad but just for a bit? She got him for the 'pump,' and lost him during the 'dump' phase. How's that different than what you thought? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 08:20 PM |
| 3 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.Tell that to hobos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 08:18 PM |
| 2 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.Why does being on reddit means people wont tell you when you're wrong? You keep talking about right and wrong answers like your the expert on the subject. If having an opinion makes you an expert, then everyone on this sub is a relationship expert apparently. guys clown on the redpill And that proves what exactly? If I make fun of you that makes everything you say incorrect automatically? Ad homs don't prove someone incorrect, challenging the actually ideas and proving them wrong through logic i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 08:15 PM |
| 2 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.If you give a teacher a right answer You're not my teacher, your some random person on Reddit. Then don’t give the wrong answer. Your some random on Reddit and not even a man. I highly doubt your the objective expert on what men should be doing to succeed in the dating market. Your personal opinion on the matter is just as valid as mine. Then don’t bring them up. Or you can choose to have thicker skin. It's not my job to walk on eggshells so you don't get triggered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 07:42 PM |
| 1 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable....or following the example of men with multiple women and lots of options. Like I said, you keep skipping over this part. I already know not everyone agrees that RP is the path to success, which is why I also stated one can just follow successful men in general. I predicted someone would get triggered about that and that's exactly why I phrased it the way I did so I wouldn't get pulled into this kind of side conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:20 PM |
| 2 | “Giving someone a chance” is a selfish mindset and comes from a place of superiorityI’m so tired of people keep trying to force their message down other peoples throats. Literally the entire point of this sub lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:16 PM |
| -3 | Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere?Maybe? But if that is the case then women objectifying themselves by posting ass and skimpy bikini pics all over IG and selling softcore to full on porn content through OF definitely wouldn't be helping the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:13 PM |
| 4 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItWho said anything about being bitter? If anything, men should aspire to achieve the level of freedom and options these men have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 04:32 PM |
| 2 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.Is this post about the Red Pill? I'm trying to stay on topic. I don't have any desire to get pulled into an entire side conversation specifically about the Red Pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 04:00 PM |
| 2 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.You skimmed over the part where I said to follow successful men. Whether they're Red Pill or not is irrelevant. If the most popular men are assholes, then it is what it is. Success is success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:35 PM |
| 0 | If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable.OP's correct. Gotta adapt to the dating market by going Red Pill or following the example of men with multiple women and lots of options. Follow success instead of just complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:20 PM |
| – | Let's have the uncomfortable conversationWhereas men have like 10 to 50 and sometimes over 100 sexual partners If you're going to just make things up, it needs to be believable. Your average Joe is not so desirable that there scoring with double to triple digits worth of women. Even in this sub most women claim they don't find the majority of men attractive, so make that make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 02:51 PM |
| – | Let's have the uncomfortable conversationWhats the best way to not have a baby? Not having sex. This would require large amounts of women to exercise enough discipline to remain celibate for an indefinite period of time, possibly many years, and not smash hot guys. Not likely to happen. That's like telling teenagers in highschool who don't have easy access to contraceptives to just stop having sex, and expecting them to actually follow that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:46 PM |
| 7 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItAren't most men already more motivated to be like that? Yeah, for the reasons I just described. These types of men end up getting everything they want, so of course men are motivated to be like that. Where are you getting this idea that men enmasse started trying to be the nice guy or whatever to get women? Red Pillers, Players, etc are the minority of men. Vast majority of men are Blue Pillers who did in fact try to be nice and do things the way they were taught at one point or another. Most Re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 12:03 PM |
| 3 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItShe chose because he was hot This right here is the true answer. Lots of women will choose fukbois or players because they are hot or charismatic. It's not just a particular kind of low value woman that gets with these men like you initially implied. There are successful women that have dating fukbois. There are women who are now married that many would consider good women/wives that have probably done it too. It's not just one specific genre of women AKA low value golddiggers doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItAlso, around the time, she started appearing on numerous magazines and had an increased public life. I'm sure that had nothing to do with her marriage. Ciara was more famous that Future at that time. She definitely wasn't dating the dude to network. He became more well known by dating her, not the other way around. If the ultimate prize of acting like a toxic player is a string of unstable, highly publicized breakups with women who are primarily there to network I think you're forgetting that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 04:01 AM |
| 9 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItBut denying that they had certain intentions when dating DiCaprio or the like is blind. What was Ciara's intention having a kid by a rapper with multiple baby mamas? Giselle may not have been in the same room as Brady if she hadn’t networked through DiCaprio. So Leo's exes were considered good enough to be desired by guys like Tom Brady, Johnny Depp, and Elon Musk after Leonardo dumped them, but the argument here is that men shouldn't want to be able to get the same women these guys can get? Am … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:23 AM |
| 10 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItRight, who would want to date supermodels like Tom Brady's ex wife Giselle (dated Leonardo Di'Caprio first) or renowned female artists like Ciara (had a kid by Future before marrying Russell Wilson and her first born son is named Future). Clearly these guys are just getting the bottom of the barrel women. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 02:07 AM |
| 6 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItI didn't say that OP claimed that. I meant RP never claimed to invent self improvement. If you think RP is just "self improvement" messaging I have a bridge to sell you. Okay, so a guy whose essentially an incel whose never had a girlfriend goes looking for solutions to this problem. He stumbles upon RP. How exactly is the advice going to give him worse results than he's already getting and where should he be going for advice instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 08:09 PM |
| 5 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItRP never claimed to have invented self improvement. Sounds like you have more of an issue with the messengers than the actual message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 08:00 PM |
| 12 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItOff the top of my head, guys like Leonardo Di'Caprio known for trading in young women who age out of his range, Future known for creating numerous baby mamas, guys like Andrew Tate who still gets new girlfriends and has a daughter btw, fukbois, players, etc. Society would have us believe men like this shouldn't be successful with women or continue to be desired because of their actions and selfishness, and yet men like this have pretty much always been successful for generations. Literally nothi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:56 PM |
| 20 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItSo long as the men the most superficial shit, money, clout, etc continue to get women and everything else they want despite behaving like selfish asshats, this will be the direction men continue to go down this path. Like OP said, their are contradicts between what men are told they should be vs the men who have the most success in our society. Is it a complete coincidence that the men with the most women and status in Western society are often also considered borderline narcissists, egotistical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:45 PM |
| 6 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItIf RP and BP are so helpful why are there so many single RP/BP followers? You do realize that they enter these groups single right, and trying to solve that problem? If they were successful being Blue Pilled they would have just stayed Blue Pilled and not go looking for answers on how to get laid more or more successful with women. Well, at least it's like that for the Red Pill, Black Pillers are mostly doomers that have just given up entirely. From the outside, it doesn't seem like RP works. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:29 PM |
| – | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItBut most black pillers start at red pill And where are you getting that information exactly? Because it overwhelmingly doesnt work for men or red pill and black pill wouldn't be necessary. If Blue Pill worked there wouldn't be a Black Pill or Red Pill, so we just circled back to my original point. The status quo not working for a lot of men is what led to the creation of the manosphere and other subsequent groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:22 PM |
| – | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItBecause they start as red pillers and end at black pill. I don't think you actually understand what Black Pill is. There's no requirement that Black Pillers have to start out as Red Pillers. Black Pillers mainly believe attraction is pretty much entirely based around looks/genetics, things you mostly can't change. Red Pillers believe other factors like status, charisma, social skills, and things you can change effect attraction and thus you can self improve. Sure, there's some overlap in believi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 04:24 PM |
| 12 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItIf it was working for men, Red Pill, Black Pill, etc wouldn't have come into existence in an attempt to replicate the results of the men it is working for, like players, fukbois, high status men, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 03:54 PM |
| 28 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItThe paradox actually is sustainable, though not ideal. What happens is the system will essentially push men to become more narcissistic because they essentially have to actively ignore what society or women say and just chase success. In order to do that they have to increasingly not care about what other people say or their opinions, and focus just on the results. Survival of the fittest essentially. Empathetic men who listen will ironically be filtered out, while selfish men who are ego driven… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 03:47 PM |
| 3 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenMissing the point, which is that you can in fact put a price on giving birth and there's already an industry around that. However, there's just no way 9 months equates to putting someone else into indentured servitude for 18 years. That's nowhere near an equal compensation. This is way an opt out for men PLUS actual reasonable compensation for the woman who still wants to have the kid would be fairer than the system we currently have in place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenCan you put a price on health, human life? Women already sell giving birth as a service. It's called surrogacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:03 AM |
| -1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenwhile only one party pays the VAST majority of the price The party that pays the price can choose not to go through it in the first place if they don't think it's worth it. Having a kid is optional and there's no way to equalize biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:00 AM |
| 4 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youMaybe I'm missing something here. Most women supposedly aren't attracted to men...why exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyWe don’t have the existing knowledge to produce artificial wombs. Artificial wombs are already used on prematurely delivered lambs. They haven't been perfected enough to carry a human from embryo to term yet, but eventually they will. The question here isn't 'IF' but 'WHEN.' Since they already have the technology and are using it in some capacity, it's not going to take as long as centuries to fully develop as some people seem to be implying in these comments. Decades maybe, but not a full centu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 04:39 PM |
| 2 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youAnd women shouldn't wasre their time trying to settle either. Nobody makes women try to settle. If they are trying to do that it's because they couldn't get what they actually wanted. Women who can get the men they want never have to try to settle, and they'll not feel a need to resort to that in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 03:34 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyWow, you are way behind. I work with AI for a living, there are models that do those things quite easily now. Obviously, not every model is built the same so results may vary. You can go on ChatGPT right now and generate an image of a person with normal hands. It's been capable of doing that for a while now. That's literally my point, last you remembered it couldn't do that but now it already can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 03:29 PM |
| 6 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyThat's not how technological advancement works. It's not one consistent growth rate for 100+ years. Certain advancements, like AI, act as a force multiplier accelerating the growth of other advancements. For instance, some drug discoveries predicted to take upwards of 6 years have now been done in a matter of months thanks to the development of AI, and 12x faster than originally predicted. A lot of major technological leaps happened because certain inventions accelerated future innovation. The p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:38 PM |
| – | If you’re a guy, and you’re fit, well-groomed, well-dressed, have a job and are mentally stable… you’re average. And the faster you understand that, the easier things will be.You made a whole post about guys needing to be aware of if they're average or not, and how women are categorizing them in the selection process. How is that not "overthinking it?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyI never claimed women would be upset or not upset. If anything, it won't really matter in such a future as men will be fully content having all their needs met and won't have a reason to care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:59 PM |
| – | If you’re a guy, and you’re fit, well-groomed, well-dressed, have a job and are mentally stable… you’re average. And the faster you understand that, the easier things will be.Men are pretty self aware about being average. Most aren't in denial about that. They're simply not going to put in a shit ton of effort becoming above average just to date one average chick who feels entitled to that. Which is why many who reach that level start to juggle women, have situationships, get a rotation, side chicks, mistresses, etc. Because why would a man who is above average have to settle for average? Feel free to answer that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:55 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyWhich part do you think is the joke exactly? You know you can Google this stuff yourself right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyYou're assuming that a guy having a companion that can be as beautiful as he wants, cook like a gourmet chef, clean, simulate emotions enough to maintain releastic conversations, replicate any sex position at any time and will always be in the mood, can't divorce him for any of his resources, and can possibly even give birth in the future will only be appealing to socially enept men. This will literally change dating and relationships entirely. It won't just be incels getting these robots, just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:44 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyMen are not even now willing to pay for their children. Depends if they wanted them usually. Obviously in the scenario where a artificial womb is used along with a nanny bot, the guy would need to pay for that. The number one reason people in developt countrys report for not having children is "financial reasons/too expensive" And the people saying that right now probably won't have kids regardless, so what exactly changes in that regard? People who can afford kids will have kids, people who can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:38 PM |
| 3 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyI'm married. I'm just telling you the most likely end scenario here. Companies are already working on companionship bots and they're already trying to make them look as human as possible. That's just a fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:32 PM |
| -1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyThe parent who owns the nanny bot will. In a hypothetical scenario with these robots and say a guy had a kid through the artificial womb like a surrogate, a lot of the childcare labor will be done by robot, keeping the house clean, making food/baby food, bottle feedings, changings, etc. The parent will still interact with their kid, play with their kid, instill values in the kid, however, most of the hard labor will now be handled by the robot which ideally would reduce the work by at least 50%,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:19 PM |
| 4 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyIt's not going to take that long. Look how far AI developed and just a little over 2 years. Every advancement AI technology will greatly accelerate advancements in other technology since the AI can assist in the development of other technology. And they've already been using artificial wounds to grow animals like lambs from fetuses to full term. All that's really left is human testing before this goes to market. China is already advertising these. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyRobots that will look like Sydney Sweeney, Halle Berry in her prime, or Gal Gaddot. Just like in that Futurama episode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:05 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyA nanny bot like in Jetsons will be developed to do that. They're already training a housemaid bot, just need to calibrate one specifically for child care assistance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyIt's really just about male horniness. You're right. This is why sex bots are also being created to cover all bases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:01 PM |
| -1 | Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchyImagine if sex bots can now give birth 🤔😁 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 11:57 AM |
| 2 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.I asked for stats that show women with a high n count leads to a dead bedroom. If she's cheating and sleeping with other men, chances are she's sleeping with her husband less. But I don't have the exact number on deadbedrooms specifically. the women who have incentive to engage in casual based on personal belief and comfort what is the incentive for them not to do so? Incentives are going to be different for each person. It's not necessarily a one size fits all kind of deal. Some women might not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 09:28 PM |
| 2 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Stats say women with 10+ partner are upwards of 3x more likely to cheat on or divorce their partners. Also choosing to not have a bunch of casual sex because of personal beliefs or comfort level =/= low libido. Humans have self control, which separates us from the animals. We can make a conscious decision to not partake in an action despite our instincts or cravings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 08:11 PM |
| 9 | Will you marry a woman like that ?all the people the red pill seems to love are absolutely horrible fathers. How could you possibly even know this? You've met their kids and seen how they parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 04:17 PM |
| 0 | Will you marry a woman like that ?Lost me at childfree feminist, although this isn't uncommon for current modern women in America. Maybe if I was at a later stage in life where I didn't want kids and being a feminist wasn't a huge part of her identity/personality, I could see marrying such a woman as a possibility. A lot of Western guys would at least date a woman like this without having a problem with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 04:16 PM |
| 4 | The male/female sexlessness gap is the result of net biological differences playing out over a free sexual marketplacewomen don't find the same thing attractive. You don't realize how absolutely ridiculous this claim is? So multiple women can't find a guy being tall attractive? A guy being fit attractive? A guy being muscular, confident, or charismatic attractive? You've just never in your life encountered multiple women who found the same guy attractive or the same traits attractive? Mistresses don't exist? Side chicks don't exist? One guy with multiple baby mamas can't exist unless multiple women found that g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 03:42 PM |
| 5 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Why would a woman who value attractive men, settle with an unattractive one? Because the amount of men that are considered hot to a large percentage of the female population is a small amount. There's simply not enough of these guys to go around. Obviously the women who can successfully get commitment and marriage from these guys aren't going to settle. It's the ones who fail to do that who now have to resort to settling or staying single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:29 AM |
| 9 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.it just proves she's still thinking about all those men. Which is good information to know before committing to someone. For the guy in this situation, it's better to see all the red flags at the onset rather than being blindsided by them down the line. Whileas if she shuts up about it chances are it's "been there done that" She could still be thinking about those experiences, just not dumb enough to talk about them because she's aware that it will come off just as you explained. Problem is, not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:24 AM |
| 5 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Longer life, better health Debatable. A long life is never a guarantee. kids, companionship Problem with your argument is you don't even consider the possibility that he can date single and get companionship, or find a woman who is actually very attracted to him to fall in love with and have kids. The only options you present are being Betabuxxed or living a life of solitude forever for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:05 AM |
| 2 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Depends on the age. 20 at age 18 is a lot, but 20 at age 35, not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:00 AM |
| 18 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Obviously, any woman guaranteed to be faithful is best but there's literally no way to guarantee that so the hypothetical is kinda pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:59 AM |
| 14 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Divorced men still outlive lifelong bachelors. If I told women that cleaning, cooking, and being submissive to their man would add a year to their lifespan, do you think all women would jump on that? My point is your putting a lot of value on that marginal lifespan increase, as though men would happily go through divorce and lose their stable family life in the off chance they may live a year or two longer far off in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:56 AM |
| 3 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.The reliable man in this scenario gets a partner, a home life, companionship, someone who shows up, likely children if he wants them. Yeah, but he also has a high chance of being deadbedroomed or divorced one she's extracted the maximum value out of the relationship. Unless you honestly believe a woman who settled for a guy is actually going to stick around till death and not eventually leave to find a guy she actually has high attraction towards once she's gotten the family, house, etc. So what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:51 AM |
| 0 | The male/female sexlessness gap is the result of net biological differences playing out over a free sexual marketplaceAnd when men choose to believe nonsense What part of the study is nonsense? Unless you believe the average guy and average women have an equal amount of the opposite sex thirsting after them for sex, it makes perfect sense why women would be having more sex than men. Even on this sub women often admit to finding a minority of men attractive. So it shouldn't be that surprising that a large percentage of women are likely taking turns sleeping with or sharing that minority of hot guys. This only do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:39 AM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.So I think a more meaninful definition would be struggling with access to sex that you actually want. Not sex that you do not want. By that definition even I and probably a third of the population would be incels if their was ever a period of time where they rejected sex from people they weren't really interested in. You don't think that's somewhat of a broad definition that includes a lot of people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.Just explain one thing, how is someone who is turning down advances from other people who want to have sex with them an incel? How exactly is that not voluntary celibacy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.You're overcomplicating this more that it ever needed to be. A person who nobody wants to have sex with is an incel. You're stretching the definition so much that you're coming to conclusions where everyone is an incel or nobody is an incel. At this point you're just shifting incel to mean whatever you want it to mean, to the point where it no longer makes any sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:59 PM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.Sure? Bottom line though, if you're actively turning people down, you're in no way an incel. Actual involuntary celibacy would be no one wanting to have sex with you and so you are celibate, despite wanting to have sex, due to no one wanting to engage in sex with you. Otherwise your voluntarily choosing to remain celibate, which is just normal voluntary celibacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.What you just described is a person turning down sex because the person wanting to have sex with them doesn't meet their standards. How it that not entirely voluntary? If sex is being offered or easily accessible and you're choosing not to have it, then you're entirely celibate by choice. That's not at all comparable to prostitution, which in my country at least is illegal. What you described is turning down fully legal consensual sex. No part of that scenario is involuntary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.They cannot find someone who they are attracted to So then they're not INVOLUNTARILY celibate then AKA they aren't incels. They're choosing to be celibate until a guy who meets their standards comes along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:27 PM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.I know involunatily virgin women So women who are virgins not by choice? Meaning if they offered to sleep with guys even on Tinder there would be zero takers? Really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.The average guy does not find most women attractive. And yet the average chick gets hundreds of matches on Tinder and simps. So where's your evidence to prove the opposite to be true? So age is at least one criterium. Lots of women on this sub claim they get just as much suitors as they did when they were younger. Are you saying that they're lying and actually get no attention from men because they aged out of it? Men often overlook ugly women to the point where they have a completely skewed per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Men want something they can’t get. Women have something they don’t want—that’s the real dating crisis.He has to find her attractive You're average guy finds most women attractive. like hanging out with her, You're average guy isn't super picky about who they hang out with. low body count Rarely ever asked or enforced. feminine Even masculine tomboys don't have issues getting boyfriends. complain endlessly about single moms Red Pill men on this forum. In reality, single moms still get suitors and guys signing up to be stepdads. or fat women Plenty of fat women out here who still get laid or dates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Question for men: if you were a woman, would you genuinely be attracted to a man who gets zero attention from women?Fathers' rights to child custody and visitation are determined at the state level. In some states a woman can just put any man's name on the birth certificate even without his consent and he can be charged with child support for years before being able to get it removed. And the money he paid during that time to a kid that wasn't his will not be repayed back to him. So no, not "none." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:27 AM |
| – | Question for men: if you were a woman, would you genuinely be attracted to a man who gets zero attention from women?I don't want to get into a long conversation about abortion but approximately 1/3 of US women were in favor of overturning Roe v Wade and didn't believe terminating babies should be a federally protected right. States rights are mostly determined by the citizens of those States, which consists of women too. Shocker but conservative pro-life women exist and they're not an insignificant number of voters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:20 AM |
| – | Question for men: if you were a woman, would you genuinely be attracted to a man who gets zero attention from women?Do you know you can drive over to another state right? The scenario you're presenting would be applicable to less than 1% of abortions. It's not at all frequent enough to be considered the situation most women are facing or will ever face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:05 AM |
| 2 | Question for men: if you were a woman, would you genuinely be attracted to a man who gets zero attention from women?would you risk your well being to date a man who isn't desirable? Desirable to everyone else or desirable to me? It seems like your initial question was, would I date someone who is not desirable to others? The answer to that is yes if I'm the one that finds them very attractive. And vice versa, just because other people find someone attractive doesn't mean I will. Is what a woman is attracted to entirely dependent on other people's opinions? They can't feel attracted to someone completely indep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 09:58 AM |
| 0 | Men’s dating prospects reduce strongly after 30 with young womenhow is that relevant to the majority of young women being attracted to men their age? It's relevant to the overall topic of why some guys hit their peak in their 30's. Because they'll attract the type of women I just mentioned who are family minded early on, they also attract women their own age and older women. As opposed to a man around 22 who will struggle to meet the financial and maturity standards of older women, so often won't be considered for serious LTRs by them. Younger men are mostly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:14 AM |
| -1 | Men’s dating prospects reduce strongly after 30 with young womenOkay? But my points remain the same though. How many guys you know at age 22 are in a position to support a family realistically? They're going to be entry level in their careers at that point. So any woman wanting to start a family around that age either pairs up with a man her age and waits about a decade till they're both in a position to support a family together, or gets with a guy whose already established in their career (senior level) and financially stable enough to support kids, which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:31 AM |
| 6 | Men’s dating prospects reduce strongly after 30 with young womenYeah, but like the guy said this depends on various factors. The young women I knew who married guys in their 30s right out of college were marriage minded. They didn't really care to date around and essentially wanted to start a family early on. It's rare for a young guy in his early to mid 20's to be in a position to support a family or kids. So yeah, it depends. Any women whose family minded in their 20's either have to wait till their 30's or date up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 10:58 PM |
| 7 | The Femosphere deliberately genderizes behaviors that AREN'T gendered. (CMV)Based on what evidence besides "just trust me bro"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 05:28 PM |
| 1 | The Femosphere deliberately genderizes behaviors that AREN'T gendered. (CMV)Older men. For millennial or youger men it's about the same rate between men and women. The rate of cheating for gen z women actually surpasses that of gen z men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 05:27 PM |
| -1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”If a guy doesn't really want to be with a woman, he's leaving regardless. The only thing withholding sex or hooking up early changes is how quickly this occurs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 04:14 PM |
| 1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Wives miss out on having a partner who respects them as a human When did they miss out on this? They chose to marry a guy that doesn't treat them like a human? Make that make sense. being treated as mother material while husbands are still dealing with other women. That's cheating and nobody argued something like that is okay at all. Some just purely see their wife as mother material, hence Madonna syndrome. That's not what actual Madonna-Whore complex is. The actual complex would be if a guy co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 04:06 PM |
| 1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Finding a woman who is virgin, submissive, and naive isn't an easy thing nowadays. Depends on factors like age and community, but sure, there's not an abundance of virgin or submissive women and half decent looking women with those qualities are usually married before 30. It's not just that they're rare, but they're in such high demand it's hard to even find women like this single. They're always taken off the market. So they just spend their youth with fun ones and then settle down with a mothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 02:25 PM |
| 8 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”"Husband material" doesn't necessarily have to be bad. When a woman means it as in the full package AKA a guy she feels high sexual attraction to, would hookup with, be her most sexually open with, AND can see as a good life partner and father, then that's a compliment. However, if it's presented as not being the kind of guy she would normally want to hookup with BUT he won her over because he's a nice guy or good man, but she doesn't necessarily want to do all the kinky stuff she's done with pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 02:12 PM |
| -1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Sure, but these kinds of men always want the most submissive, virgin, naive women. Not sure what your point it here. A guy with a lot of options can get this kind of girl if he wants. I can say they don't consider their girlfriends worthy of a long term relationship and see them as objects. If they don't consider a girl worthy of commitment then they just won't commit to them. Again, not understanding the point your making here. To them they're just a fun material and their bride is a mother mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 01:11 PM |
| – | I genuinely think men’s preferences and standards are shamedLike you said, what women are openly and honestly telling a group of guys what they find attractive or prefer in a man? Okay, but men constantly say they want more honesty and openness about these things. Who exactly is being helped if everyone is extremely vague about their preferences. If a guy breaks up with a woman for vague reasons, I don't see how that's much better than just explaining clearly the reasons, likes, dislikes, etc. Vagueness is just going to leave people with questions they e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?The fact that you don't even think they have the right to even question how she was perfectly fine fellating 30 different guys but suddenly has a problem with it when she gets to the guy she's currently dating is ridiculous. Nobody should be pressured into doing anything they don't want to do. But grown ass adults in adult relationships should at least be capable of having a conversation around sex, preferences, etc. Sometimes people just aren't compatible but how can anyone expect to have long … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?Because why would someone stop doing something they enjoy? Answer this honestly. Do women you know always enjoy doing all the same things with every guy they've ever been with? Or are there ever some things they enjoy doing with some guys and not others? If a woman isn't attracted to a man, she just wouldn't have sex. Sure, but attraction has levels. You can be attracted to two individuals but a lot more to one than the other, and maybe feel more motivated to do what it takes to keep the relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?You mean with common sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?"fine, leave if you don't feel your partner desires you" and no men has ever said "yes you are right". The guy you responded to is essentially saying they should leave and I'm agreeing with that as well. So you have two men right now basically saying "yes you are right." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Why do you ask your Partner to do Sex Acts she Does not Like?And the men are claiming if she doesn't do it with him as his current partner it means she likes him less. I think it's funny how you don't even really entertain the possibility of a woman not wanting to do certain kinky sexual acts with a man because she's less attracted to him. Even though its actually a sign she never liked the act before and actually now feels safe to say no Right because if a woman did threesomes or anal multiple times in the past, she had to have been coarsed into it. Ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"Good for you? But doesn't this negate your entire argument about how kinky sex supposedly doesn't mean you treated your previous partners better etc etc.? I personally don't care but that's the argument you made in the post but now you seem to be saying the exact opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:38 PM |
| – | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"And it makes you realize that all these dudes in these comments claim to be the nice guys women over look For all the times women claim guys on this sub are making self declarations to being "nice guys," that's definitely not something I've ever seen on this sub having read countless posts on here. Women on this sub seem to have an obsession with "nice guys." They apply this label to any guy they consider an incel, misogynist, or who says things they don't like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"I would disclose as soon as I'm aware of it, as it would have been a waste of my time as well. But again, depends on her reasoning and whether it aligns with what I mentioned earlier regarding what I would be willing to accept vs not accept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"Also she might not want to do certain stuff with you if you don't have the personality for that or vibe for it Cool, she can date someone else with the right "vibe." My points remain the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:21 PM |
| -2 | Kinky sex is not "treating a man better"Very few arguments that make any sense and be acceptable for why a woman would want to have kinky sex with some other men but not her husband. She tried it once and didn't like it. Fair. It was something she thought I wouldn't like such as a MMF threesome or pegging. Okay, but the discussion should still be had so it's clear she was open to anything but I was the one who didn't want to proceed with it. She felt more comfortable doing it with the other guy. Depending on how long we've been togeth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:14 PM |
| – | How did you acquire your GF / wife / casual relationship? (or your last one)I caught mine with a Master ball. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 07:01 AM |
| 2 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.So everything starts with sperm. Thanks for proving my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Women choosing abusive men is a skill issueBut some people are bad at reading people, or get unlucky, or their opponent (the person trying to trick them) out-skills them. Which would literally be a skill issue. Which is the entire point this post is making. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.You can’t compare women and men in terms of reproduction. The hell I can't. You started at your dad's balls, prove me wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:50 PM |
| 0 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapThere's billions of men on the planet. Realistically, you don't think you can find a few who are open to communication that you can have a consistent sexual relationship with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:30 PM |
| 0 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapIt can be embarrassing for some of us to talk about. Okay, but my point remains the same. Can't expect someone who doesn't know you that well to just instantly know your likes and dislikes. Don't want to communicate during sex? Then realize the result of that could very well be a high chance you might not get off. The trust isn’t there yet. Yeah, like I said, the issue could be on either side. All you can is put in effort, communicate, etc and hope the other person does the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 06:26 PM |
| -1 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapWell, like most things turn out to be, the real cause is somewhere in between. Yeah, some men can be selfish lovers just trying to get themselves off. But there are also women who aren't very communicative during sex or expect the guy to just know what they like or don't like even if it's the first time they've been intimate. Both of which can be issues that are causing this orgasm gap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 12:27 PM |
| 11 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.I wasn’t gestates for nine months inside my father’s balls. Sure, but your mother didn't asexually reproduce either. So you owe both of them for your existence obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 10:23 AM |
| 6 | Women choosing abusive men is a skill issueHe got rich through webcam girls. The first of which were women he dated during his kickboxing career and agreed to live with him and make content for him. They made millions out of that arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 09:26 AM |
| 8 | Women choosing abusive men is a skill issueMany criminals are that way because of their upbringing and environment. We still hold those criminals accountable for their own actions. We don't just waive the punishment for their bad choices or crimes because their parents were XYZ. But in situations where people attract abusers Unless the only men they ever attract or abusers, they still have a choice in which men they choose to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 09:20 AM |
| 6 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.They feel safe enough to speak their mind without repercussions in the West. Some even feel comfortable enough to get physical with men out in the open. Do you th think women in other places, like say the Middle East, feel "safe" enough to do the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 08:19 AM |
| 20 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.And all men rely on women to create them. And you came from your dad's balls. how is a woman ever supposed to enjoy dating you if you’re carrying around the mindset “you’re lucky I’m not beating you, because I could if I wanted to.” You're right but this also applies to women who date with the mindset of "you're lucky I'm even giving you a chance." Thinking oneself superior to others they are seeing isn't a healthy mindset in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 08:14 AM |
| 2 | Hypothetical choice (I think these are fun!)Well, I think his mentioned points will still be true even if he cheats, until he gets caught at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 07:49 AM |
| 15 | Red pill dating advice is incompatible with healthy long term relationshipsYeah, Red Pill doesn't really offer lots of advice for maintaining an LTR. It's mostly focused on the PUA aspect but that's why it's called dating advice and not relationship advice or marriage advice. Certain things that help you attract women like being aloof or stoic, may help you get laid but can't really maintain that throughout a full relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Hypothetical choice (I think these are fun!)This is a tough one the more you think about it. On the one hand, obviously having sex with a 10 will be in a guy's brain till the end of his days. On the other hand, knowing how women are greatly influenced by their peers, if they think the guy has good enough traits to bag a 10/10, they're very likely to get the guy much more ass since they'll want to what he has that attracted her to him. The ROI ass he will recieve will be very high. However, I personally will pick A since it's guaranteed as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 10:57 PM |
| 3 | It’s never been easier to date for guys who know how to speak to womenAgain, you're not actually disputing the other guys point. He was making a point that women are more spiteful and hatful nowadays than ever before. Your statement was essentially that it's fine for you specific so long and the hatefulness and spite is targeted towards specific demographics you dislike, it's a pro for you. Basically, it's like if someone argued that The Punisher is a killer, and I argue that well he only kills criminals. Okay, but that still makes him a killer, so the original st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 11:44 PM |
| 2 | It’s never been easier to date for guys who know how to speak to womenYou literally described women exhibiting disdain and disgust as their most positive traits, and yet somehow this is supposed to prove the guy you're responding to incorrect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Investing in artificial wombsWho would program them? Programers? asking for the “elites” to make a bunch of elite replacements Artificial wombs are already being made and housekeeping bots as well, so nursery bots aren't really a huge leap. The real questions are whether such bots will be mass produced and by when. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Not touching someone’s penis but still having love reflected in their actions Most would disagree that an inability to show you want to be physically intimate or sexually desire your partner as love being adequately reflected in your actions. You probably gauged that from the comments but also deadbedrooms usually lead to the end of a relationship is unresolved. You're allowed to have your own take on the matter but reality is what it is. Someone who is incapable of being physically intimate wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 05:23 PM |
| – | It's 2026. Men need to stop catering to feminist efforts and start looking after themselves.What groups? The girl scouts for one. I don't keep an actual list off the top of my head. There’s no where or at any point in history where being male meant you were oppressed Being forced to sign up for selective service in 2026 feels pretty oppressive, or at the very least unfair. But I guess you're right for the most part that legally nobody is super oppressed in modern Western society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?It's incredibly difficult for women on this sub to see an example and get the point of the example without assuming the individual is equating the situations 1-to-1. I literally explained that the point was that people in general will not tolerate a relationship where love is not also reflected in the person's actions. Somehow you glossed over that completely and decided to focus on getting triggered at the most nonsensical take away from what was said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Friend with benefits then. Benefits that include making out and snuggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 04:14 PM |
| – | It's 2026. Men need to stop catering to feminist efforts and start looking after themselves.Maybe? Depends on the circumstances like I said. There are groups that restrict who can join based on gender but not entirely sure if that's what you're referring to without more context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Vast majority of the population expect physical intimacy in a romantic relationship. You're arguing in favor of a rare exception that's not remotely common outside of the asexual community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 02:51 PM |
| – | It's 2026. Men need to stop catering to feminist efforts and start looking after themselves.I don't think his point was to demonize feminism. My take from the post was that men need to focus on their own issues first before focusing on female issues. The mainstream view has been to focus on female issues and most modern men have embraced that while neglecting their own problems which have continued to increase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 02:49 PM |
| – | It's 2026. Men need to stop catering to feminist efforts and start looking after themselves.There isn't one single answer that applies to everyone. It's situation dependent. Sometimes you could say someone did things that contributed to what happened to them, other times they're a victim of circumstances. But what's the ultimate point of this line of questioning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?I also love my mom and can love my drinking buddy, but I don't have to walk them down the isle either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?So I give you the option between a cardboard cake you can't eat and a real cake I won't allow you to eat. You think it really matters if I give you a real cake if you can't touch it either way? You're not sleeping with the male or lesbian roommate, so why pray tell do the generals of the roommate matter so much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 02:05 AM |
| 3 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?And what exactly would be my motivation to walk someone I will never sleep with down the isle? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 02:02 AM |
| 3 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?say it's like a lesbian roommate setup and she enjoyed your presence there Replace the lesbian with a guy and how is the situation any different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?How would that be different from having a really close best friend or family member? People who also can love you very much but in a non-sexual way? Literally explain the differences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:40 AM |
| 7 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?the intent is not platonic But the actions are platonic though regardless of what the intent was meant to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 09:17 PM |
| 7 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Explain why the individual you're describing having a close sexless relationship with can't just be a best friend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 09:04 PM |
| 7 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?It'll be a very intimate friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 08:59 PM |
| 9 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?not just sex Key words here being "not JUST sex." Meaning in addition to sex. Nobody said they wanted a sexless relationship like OP is describing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 08:53 PM |
| 8 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Well, like I pointed out, the flaw in OPs argument is that platonic love exists. That's what people get through friends and family, and essentially the dynamic OP described. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 07:52 PM |
| 19 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Would you rather have a woman who loved you, supported you, laughed with you, was your peace at home, but never wanted to have sex or touch your penis, or just be alone and have no relationship at all? Why does this topic come up so much? What you just described is a best friend/roommate, not necessarily a lover. I don't need to be dating to find a platonic close friend who cares about me, is someone I can confide in or rely on in tough times, is someone I can joke with, or who helps me stay lev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysYes, many people are not cut out to be managers or business owners either. Sure, but plenty of people not naturally cut out to be those things still gain those positions anyway. You're confusing what's possible with what comes natural. Anyone can be the life of the party under the right circumstances, even if for some it comes more naturally than for others. Don’t expect to be able to force your way into a “life of the party” persona because those guys get laid a lot Name a single action or trai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysLet me try to clarify things because your responses aren't making a lick of sense right now. In my initial comment I said that whether or not a man is nice or not doesn't really make much of a difference on his sexual success. Your response to that was claiming women's priority wasn't getting laid. Okay, so how does that change anything about what I said? My point remains the same. I don't even know what it is you're arguing against. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:45 PM |
| 3 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysWhen did I say women needed to want that? You're arguing against your own imagined strawmans that have nothing to do with my comment or point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysYou're overcomplicating this. "Fake it till you make it" is considered good advice by most. You could make the same argument your making towards people who want to be managers, supervisors, business owners, etc by claiming they're not natural born leaders so why bother? No one can completely predict another persons maximum potential and what they are capable of or not capable of. There is not some extremely unique skill set that one make one person the life of the party that can't ever be replic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysBeing nice is the bare ass minimum Bare minimum implies it's a requirement. But I'm sure me, you, and plenty of other people on this sub know at least a handful of men that aren't particularly "nice" yet still get women. If being nice was a bare minimum requirement as claimed that would not be possible for the most part. This false narrative keeps getting repeated on this sub despite their being nothing to back it up at all. But the "nice guy" isn't actually nice, he just pretends And what if th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysthey're just a good person...not how you get a romantic relationship. The "nice guys" aren't actually nice, they're all fart and no shit. You just admitted that even if they are actually "nice," it still doesn't mean women will want a relationship with them because of it. So wouldn't really change anything if they were truly genuinely nice anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysCool, but what does any of that have to do with what I just said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 11:57 AM |
| 35 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysCan we finally kill the myth that ugly guys = nice guys? Sure, as soon as we kill the myth that men's sexual success has anything to do with how "nice" they are first. Obviously there's plenty of evidence that being nice is not a requirement for men to get laid. So literally what's even the point of debating whose a real nice guy or whatever? Why does it matter if an ugly guy is a real true nice guy or fake nice, when the end result is mostly going to be the same for the guy regardless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 06:33 AM |
| 9 | Where does this myth that men age like fine wine come from?she should earn way way more if she wrote a book about how bad he is I doubt it. She literally just has to wait for him to die and she'll inherit what, half a billion? No way she's guaranteed to make anywhere near an equivalent amount through book sales. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:34 AM |
| -4 | Many women want a man who is "generous" without being generous themselves.Because women are not like that at all. If you had said most women aren't like that you would have had a point. But to claim all women aren't like that is bull. Look up Brittany Renner, she had viral videos talking about how having kids with athletes is a good retirement strategy and she literally did just that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:29 AM |
| 16 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.bar, you all keep saying they need to choose better but find it offensive when they do. If they're consistently choosing better, then why are their dating experiences supposedly so terrible according to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 08:47 AM |
| 3 | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.I was just curious WHY it matters. It matters to me at least because the way I see it, if you're going to consider marrying and starting a family with a person expected to exclusively commit to till death do you part, it should with someone who you feel the most open and enthusiastic to be with. I don't see why a person would make that level of commitment to someone who felt more open and honest with someone else who isn't them. Like, what's the point of that when their are billions of people on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:43 PM |
| 7 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careI'm talking about taking actual action to make relationships worth getting into for women And why exactly do we need to make a collective effort to do this rather than just letting these women choose to not be in relationships if it's not worth it to them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.I mean if they cheated that meant they violated the trust of the relationship and betrayed you. But you're needs are currently being met, so why should it matter then? But loving someone else at some prior point in time before they even knew you is not a betrayal. Them having loved someone prior isn't even the issue. The issue is that OP is saying they were more open and enthusiastic with that person than they are with me. If you know you're with someone who loved their ex more, there's no reaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:17 PM |
| 5 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careIt doesn't matter how many people we're talking about, whether it's you or someone, my point remains the same. Just like I wouldn't talk someone who apparently doesn't want kids into having them, I don't see why it's necessary to talk someone who doesn't seem to want relationships into a relationship. Some things in life we should know whether we want or don't want. Why would it require other people's opinion to determine your own opinion on whether you want to date, get married, have kids, etc.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:57 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.But… you would marry a woman who was not enthusiastic with you Don't know how you came to that conclusion. The most obvious solution is to find someone whose more open and enthusiastic with you than their exes. Why marry someone you can't be the most open and enthusiastic with? Stop settling for boring women who don’t meet your standards just because My wife is obviously someone who meets my standards, so don't know why you spent the time writing multiple paragraphs arguing against a scenario yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:50 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.Oops you left off the rest that was inconvenient to your argument. The rest of it was still your personal standard, was it not? Were you expecting me to argue you and dictate what standards you have within your own relationship? But, for some reason, the guys insisting that they should get all the same sex the ex got never want to include that one. This one aspect your glossing over is the fact that these two individuals just might not be compatible. And neither has to force themselves to confir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:44 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.She’s literally with you and somehow you’re still competing with imaginary ghosts from her past. So? A guy could be with you because he wants to get laid and fears he would be an incel otherwise. Lots of reasons people could want to be in a relationship. You don't have to accept every reason, nor will you be compatible with every person you date. How do you even know she was “more enthusiastic” with someone else? The premise presented by OP is that you know but shouldn't care. My comment is a re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careYou're making this more complicated than it needs to be. If you don't want to be in a relationship, don't be in a relationship. If you want to be in a relationship, be in one. You should know intrinsically what you want. It shouldn't require a discussion with others to be talked in or out of it. That would be like me needing others to convince me on whether I want to have sex with women or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careDifferent people are going to give you different answers. You ultimately have to decide which advice you want to follow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:46 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.Except that there's are completely contingent on what the believe someone else got. So? My previous statement remains the same. Oral sex is a requirement for me in a relationship. Cool. Sure, she enthusiastically fucked her ex in the ass with a strap on. It's not the specific sex act that matters but the enthusiasm that matters. If she can't have equally enthusiastic sex with her current partner and they not both satisfied then maybe they're not sexually compatible and should be with other peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:45 PM |
| 5 | Women don't owe men kinky sex actsCasual sex is called casual sex for a reason. I don't owe anyone anything outside of a committed relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:38 PM |
| 6 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careBut whenever women bring up these issues, the response is always the same: "Then don’t date" "Don’t have kids" "Don't have sex" "Choose better men" I'm struggling to understand why these responses aren't good enough for you. Like, if you can't find a reason to be in a relationship and see them as pointless, guess what? Nobody is making you be in a relationship. "Then don't be in a relationship" is the only appropriate response to that. Do you instead expect people to try to talk you out of it or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:37 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.what red pillers actually argue is that their requirements for a relationship are based entirely what other men have gotten that happens to be what they want Relationships and marriage are optional. Everyone is allowed to set whatever requirements, standards, or boundaries they want for their relationships. Just because you disagree with a standard doesn't mean it's automatic irrelevant for every other person on the planet. This "settling" narrative is plainly bullshit because these same men who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:15 PM |
| 21 | The manospheres biggest lieIn order for near half of women being childless close to middle age to be a good thing we need to also assume that half of women don't want family and would be fine never having that. We also have to assume that this result was what they intended and not a byproduct of failing to find the right partner or other factors not completely within their control. That's a lot of assumptions. I don't entirely agree with the RP notion that all these women will be miserable if they aren't in a relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 04:03 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.The pemise presented by OP is that your current partner isn't as sexually open or enthusiastic with you as with previous partners. If you firmly believe that most people settle for there life partners and that this is their reality, that's quite Black Pilled but I'll respect that you simply view the world differently than I do. Marriage is optional, so if you're going to go through with it why not reserve that commitment for someone you can be the most enthusiastic and open with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:51 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.How would you know she was more enthusiastic with someone else? OP's premise assumes I know and argues I shouldn't care about it, so my response is to they're claim on how I should react in that scenario. Obviously, I can't be upset about something I don't know about or that has been hidden from me. She wasn't your first choice. How would you know that when you know literally nothing about me? Not everybody settles. This may be shocking but some people are actually happy who they ended up with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:42 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.“Enthusiastic” was the word used by OP. But if the claim instead was that she tried anal one time and knows for a fact that she doesn't like it, that's a different story then and I agree with your take on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:34 PM |
| 26 | The manospheres biggest lieWhen surveyed women rank financial and career security much higher on the list than marriage and children So what's the argument here exactly? That 45% of women would rather put everything into their careers than start a family? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 03:30 PM |
| 4 | Women don't owe men kinky sex actsTrue, but guys that want kinky sex also don't owe women who don't a relationship. It's fine if you moved past the phase of wanting to do certain things, Like you said, "sex has an important function within a serious relationship." Just because you personally believe that kinky sex has no role in a committed relationship does not mean everybody shares that same view. I definitely don't. Such a guys you will not be compatible with long-term and should be okay with the possibility that they may mov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:15 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.It’s irrelevant whether or not she did it before. Knowing that your partner was more enthusiastic to be with someone else definitely isn't irrelevant or something that can just be glossed over. Let's say you're partner admitted that they loved someone more than you and pretty much settled for you, does your needs being met make that admission irrelevant too? What if they admit to cheating early on in the relationship, should you care if currently all your needs are being met? How many issues doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:06 PM |
| – | Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.Speak for yourself, I can be upset about both. Who created a rule that I can only be displeased about one thing only? I wouldn't marry a woman who was more enthusiastic to be with someone else than with me, point blank. Why would I dedicate my life to a woman who I have clear evidence to show me I'm not her first choice? I should reserve those vows for someone else, someone who can have enthusiastic sex with me and feels grateful to be with me. It's crazy how the narrative on this sub when it co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:50 PM |
| 20 | Older women are in high demand with younger men. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?Had a few friends with a milf fetish, so I guess that checks out. It seems the bigger issue though is that it's rare for a woman say 35+ to take a guy in his early to mid 20's seriously as an LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:16 AM |
| 7 | Would you rather have primary custody or 50/50 and pay child support?Assuming the divorce is amicable and the partner is stable, 50/50 custody should be the default arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:14 AM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.This sub keeps trying to explain being pleasant and considerate is awful and wont get pussy. Saying being nice isn't guaranteed to get you any pussy isn't the same as saying it's awful. Niceness by itself is not considered a sexually attractive trait compared to other traits like looks, confidence, charisma, etc. You just choose to interpret that as men saying it's an awful trait, when in reality they're saying it's mostly neutral in terms of attraction. So they see it as terrible. Not everythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”“asshole behavior,” it often just sounds like basic self respect, boundaries, and independence. Don't know why you believe asshole behavior and confidence have to be mutually exclusive. A selfish asshole or narcissist who thinks they're the center of the universe and doesn't care what other people think and just does what they want, that behavior can definitely be perceived as confidence. Those traits aren't completely unrelated. In the flip side a very empathetic person who cares a lot about ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 06:36 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.how being nice is terrible Nobody is really saying this. They're saying isn't necessarily going to get a guy ass or make them attractive, which is true. Only reason for guys to be nice is because they prefer being nice, not because it will have any positive effect on their dating life. More often than not it won't have any noticeable improvement on their attraction to women at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 06:01 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.these men don’t really believe it, because they don’t act like assholes, even though they profess that it’s the most attractive thing to women This may be shocking to you but some guys just don't have a desire to be asshole fukbois even if it improves their dating life or gets them laid more. I had plenty of opportunities to be a fukboi in college, I never felt like living that lifestyle personally though. It's not like I didn't see some guys around me like my roommate or fraternity brothers suc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 05:22 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Explain how something I like is a negative consequence to me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 05:17 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.……….. so being in jail doesn’t affect someone’s life?! It doesn't effect the life of someone who likes jail and prefers it to living on the outside like you previously described. How is something you enjoy a negative consequence to you? If you're saying that my dating options will be limited but I still very much enjoy my limited choices, why exactly should I be bothered by this supposed consequence? You can't threaten me with things I enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Some of them will ask and care. Key word "some." The consequences in this scenario are that he misses out on those other women. Sure, he misses out on some women, but there are billions of women on the planet and he can only marry one anyway. Still plenty of fish in the sea for him to choose from. He'll find another woman to settle down with. If you don’t view that as a consequence that’s your own opinion and just that. If the goal was to find a good woman to settle down with and start a family … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 04:23 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.What does any of this have to do with the actual subject we were talking about which is asshole men? I never made an argument about whether or not women could do it too. You're just changing the subject for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 04:17 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.People dont like being rejected and told theyre being assholes either, Literally every guy gets rejected at some point or another, even nice guys. This doesn't really mean much if there are still plenty of women accepting their advances. People generally dont like shallow people either. You're the one who said they're fine dating shallow women, so which is it? And some felons like jail. And to those people jail isn't really a punishment to them, which is my point. How is something a negative con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 04:15 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Okay, let's run through a scenario then. A guy who was a popular fukboi going through multiple women without a care suddenly decides he wants to start dating women seriously with the intent for marriage and put the past behind him. What is this permanent consequence he is now faced with? Did he suddenly lose his ability to attract women despite always being able to do that? Are all the women who he meets moving forward going to ask details or care about finding out if he was a player in the past… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:48 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Why will their dating pool no longer be limited? Because if being a selfish asshole fukboi is what's limiting your dating pool, the simple solution is to just stop being a selfish asshole or a fukboi. Problem solved. I was never trying to get with some sort of reformed piece of shit…. That might be your specific standard but plenty of these guys who get women consistently can get a woman to settle down with them. Just because it's not you doesn't mean they can't find another women. And the claim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:42 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.You said "they" in your last comment so I assumed we moved away from just talking about Mike to talking about assholes men in general. Are we just focusing on Mike only? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:34 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Bad comparison. People don't like going to jail, according to you, these guys like the women they still get from the limited dating pool, so not really a punishment. Also, they can change at any point they feel like and their dating pool will no longer be limited. Can someone choose to leave jail whenever they feel like it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:29 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.…..or they can almost die from substance abuse Plenty of people can be assholes and not drug addicts. Those two things aren't really related. You're adding a bunch of other things that don't have much to do with just having an asshole personality or being a douche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:25 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Yeah, I know his wife contributed to his change. I also have a close friend who was a pretty big fukboi in the past but met a nice woman, chose to change his ways so he could settle down and have kids with her. My overall point is there aren't actually any permanent consequences since these men can always choose to stop being assholes at any point if that behavior no longer benefits them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 02:02 PM |
| – | Being an asshole does come with consequences in dating. It’s about whether or not the asshole cares.Attractive assholes do limit their dating pool by being assholes, it’s just that they’re fine with the shallow women they get. If they're content with the results they've been getting then you can't really call that a consequence. Can't punish someone with a good time. And even when they feel the consequences, they’ll complain about the consequences Or they can just choose to stop being an asshole if they want different options later. Case and point, Mike "The Situation" from Jersey Shore. Guy w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:46 PM |
| 0 | There are 3 genders in dating: High-value men (HVM), Women, and Low-value men (LVM).... And it seems like the HVMs, and LVMs have more practical approaches than Women.the man just happen to have a better job "Just happens to"...right. Because when a woman decides to date a lawyer, doctor, or pro athlete that's always just a completely random happenstance, there's no way his career or earning potential could have factored into her decision to date this man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:57 AM |
| 3 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?And plenty of promiscuous women I know have also settled down. I at no point claimed otherwise. I've known plenty of players who are shit out of luck. One of the biggest fukbois I'm known since college is now happily married with kids. If a guy has the ability to consistently get women, chances are some of those women will be willing to settle down with that guy. The players I know who are single right now want to be single. But feel free to explain why you believe promiscuous women would be cap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?Yes, both men and women get old. That's why it's smart to settle down before that. This may be shocking to hear, but eventually a lot of players and fukbois meet a girl they actually want to settle down with and do just that when they feel like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Has Red Pill Advice Made You More Successful in Sexual/Romantic Relationships / Dating?I feel like if red pill was just about focusing on yourself and decentering women This was what most Red Pill content started out as but a lot of men specifically wanted to do better with women so that's what trended, so that's what content creators started to focus on. without making it sound sexist women would be much for it. It's a male space with content targeted to men. They're not focused on what sounds sexist or not because women aren't even the target audience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 04:38 PM |
| 0 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?Lying isn’t illegal, and it benefits lots of people. Until they get caught. Doesn't stop people from lying anyway. Can you name a single person who never lies? Lying was not a good example to use here. The reason many people choose not to lie is because they don’t like lying. Most people do in fact occasionally lie. It's just usually little white lies like saying you took out the trash when you didn't actually get to it yet. The kind of things where if they're caught lying it's not considered a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?If there were zero consequences to stealing, you don't think more people would steal? In the real world, not the idealized version of the world we imagine, people do in fact need to be incentived to take actions that don't normally have any direct benefit to them and discouraged from actions that only benefit themselves. When one is instead consistently rewarded for the selfish actions, they have no reason to change. When one is almost never rewarded for the selfless actions, they will start to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 03:23 PM |
| -1 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?That's illegal, being a dick isn't. And if being a selfish dick gets you what you want without consequence, what makes you think that won't incentive people to be like that even more rather than put effort into being "nice?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 02:03 PM |
| 13 | Should women reject men that don’t treat them like they would a top 1% Stacy?They say they would reject any woman that has treated other men better Sound like the real issue here isn't being treated as a top 1% attractive person but instead it's knowing for a fact that your partner treated their exes and other people they dated before you better. So, sure, if she knows for a fact he treated other women better, I don't think she should settle for a parter who seems to be settling for her. If you're going to marry someone and vow to be with them till death, you should be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 01:15 AM |
| 12 | It's fine to have a type. Just admit that you do.LMFAO, kinda hilarious that Lilith posts here so much her posts have basically become their own category that now get their own warning labels so people can mentally prepare for the circular Sisyphus style conversations that will inevitably ensue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 01:04 AM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsYou actively discouraged women from expecting men to pay for dates when that’s an easy way to filter out misogynists I doubt you could prove any correlation between a guy refusing to pay for a date and misogyny. If anything that would be the action of a true feminist who doesn't believe women should get different treatment because of their gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 12:57 AM |
| 3 | Mens' sense of security with a woman does not come from the relationshipI think it's a fear if you're tricked into it and a victim of paternity fraud. If you consented to adopt a kid then that's a different story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 12:51 AM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsadvice telling women to “choose better” is disingenuous. And if women thought the advice was genuine they'd take it? I highly doubt that. They have no intention of changing their vetting because they like what they like and no one can tell them otherwise. Some will stay the path, some will change on their own at some point, a very small few might possibly be open to making changes based on the opinions of others but that tends to be rare. There are women who won't even listen to the advice of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Being disagreeable is the most common dating problem amongst men.Still waiting for the agreeable Casanovas to be named. Should be easy to find examples if being an agreeable man is such a desirable trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 03:06 PM |
| – | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Sure but they also get plenty of rejection That's the experience for most guys in general, so doesn't really matter. They still end up with more women saying yes than the average dude. I’ve rejected tons of men because they acted like assholes even though they were very attractive. And I'm sure you've also rejected guys who weren't assholes simply because you weren't attracted to them. Just not being an asshole alone does not make a guy automatically attractive. It can make a miniscule differenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 02:53 PM |
| 7 | Being disagreeable is the most common dating problem amongst men.Being disagreeable does hinder a man’s dating life, it’s just some women just dont care. Can you prove the majority of women care? There's plenty of evidence of men getting lots of women while not being particularly agreeable, so the burden of proof falls on you to prove all the women they're getting are the exception and that the vast majority of women are selecting for agreeable men over men who aren't. These are woman who are willing to overlook bad character for other benefits. Still not con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 02:18 AM |
| 6 | Being disagreeable is the most common dating problem amongst men.Or she's genuinely on the spectrum. Could be a little if both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 01:50 AM |
| 8 | Being disagreeable is the most common dating problem amongst men.Easy way to disprove your theory. Is Leonardo Di'Caprio super agreeable, is Future, is Andrew Tate? Can point to any man who gets tons of women and chances are his primary trait isn't being particularly agreeable. In fact, a lot of these guys have dark triad traits that leave their exes calling them narcissistic. So clearly, not being agreeable hasn't presented men from being desirable to any noticeable degree. How many players and fukbois are known for being agreeable? How many CEOs or high ear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 01:49 AM |
| -4 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingYou’re bitter and upset about paying for the first date. I haven't been single for over a decade. I have no personal stake in this. Try reading my comment objectively without injecting your own bias or assumptions into it. You heavily imply that a woman owes a man sex if the man pays for a first date. I didn't say anything like that. Your literally imagining your own strawmans to argue against. It’s degeneracy. Explain what's degenerate about it? People have hookups and some women choose to slee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 10:27 PM |
| -2 | Women are scared of not having the power in dating1) What does any of this have to do with my comment? 2) A guy saying he prefers to be with a woman that shows sexual attraction to him from the first date rather than one who wants to take it slow is not ridicule. It's called having standards. Choosing to take it as a person insult is on you in those situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingHence why women are pushing towards asking for 50/50 across all things. Tell that to the rest of the sisterhood. Even on this sub you can find conversations where women aren't aligned on 50/50 split from the first date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 05:25 PM |
| 1 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Two equally attractive men in front of me. I’m choosing the one that’s nice, treats me like a human, asks about me, I have fun with. I'm sure if literally all else was equal that would be the case, but rarely is all else equal. Would be like a guy saying if almost every trait between two equally attractive people were the same, he'd choose the one whose in a career with higher earning potential. In most cases it's not even going to get to that point because usually a guy will be choosing the wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 05:22 PM |
| 3 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Difference is, men aren't virtue signaling otherwise. Women are the only ones trying to moralize attraction and keep pushing this idea that being a "nice guy" gives some sort of significant boost to a guy's level of attraction. "Just be yourself," "be nice," "just don't be a misogynist," "just treat women like humans" are all cliche feel good platitudes that are never backed up by anything concrete, yet they keep getting repeated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:54 AM |
| 4 | The Male Loneliness Epidemic Is Like The Obesity Epidemic3 things that are 100% in your control: looks, money, and social skills Only one of these things is truly within someone's control unless they're autistic which isn't within their control. If you go to the gym for 6 months doing a PPLR What if your short or have a mid to ugly face? How's getting buff fixing that? This only works assuming you have good baseline genetics and the only thing holding you back is not being in shape. Genetics are not 100% within your control. If you join the military a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:17 AM |
| 2 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Unless you have a really weird idea of what makes someone "nice," nothing I just said should lead you to believe these guys consider themselves nice guys or even want to be that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 09:36 PM |
| 2 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.I find that hard to believe considering a large portion of this sub are Red Pillers who primarily believe women are hypergamous and chase looks, status, money, and charisma above most other traits; and Black Pillers who believe women primarily just care about looks, height, and genetics. Neither of those groups of men believe being virtuous or kind does much to invoke female attraction in any way, so why would those men go around wanting you to believe they are "nice guys with a heart of gold?" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 09:32 PM |
| 5 | How do you feel about being a “shallow” woman’s enthusiastic minimum?If she's pursuing and having sex with this guy very enthusiastically, then regardless of what the stats say, her actions show that she at least believes he's a catch or hot shit. That's the most important factor. In the same way a woman with an overinflated ego might think every average guy is beneath her despite being average herself. You can't force her to appreciate someone she thinks she's settling for with stats. How she treats the guy and whether a relationship can work comes down to her o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 07:39 PM |
| 2 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.“average Joe nice guys with a heart of gold” Nobody said they were. You're arguing against your own invented strawman. Someone saying they've never seen any evidence to suggest being a nice guy gives you any huge boost in attraction whatsoever =/= them declaring themselves as being uber nice guys or whatever. You're coming to that conclusion all on your own for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 07:32 PM |
| 3 | What is wife material, and why women should want to be wife material?So my first question is what is wife material? This is going to be somewhat different from guy to guy, but at it cores it's usually a woman that brings minimal to no stress into a guy's life and also adds value to it. The kind of woman that makes a guy feel like his life will be objectively worse without her in it. And then men put the most value on sex in debates here I think you mean that they put emphasis on sexual attraction, which is easiest for men to gauge based on a woman's willingness o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 05:56 PM |
| 3 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.If women loved assholes I never made that claim. The comment I responded to insinuated that an average guy being nice levels up his attractiveness and that being an asshole lowers the hot guy's attractiveness. If that were actually true then average Joe nice guys with a heart of gold would be outperforming hot assholes in the dating market, but we all know that's mostly bullshit just by examining the men who get the most women. Even if the general premise is somewhat true, that being nice increa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 05:47 PM |
| 7 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Issue with your argument is you've created this perfect Just World Fallacy. The only options you present for why asshole men may get a lot of women still is 1) those women must also be bad or 2) good women are tricked by bad men. You don't even consider the possibility that 3) a lot of women, good, bad, or otherwise perhaps don't care how nice/decent a man is personality wise, at least not above other traits they're vetting for. Or they could find dark triad traits like a man being ego driven or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 05:37 PM |
| 2 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Obviously no one who doesn't find you sexually attractive would date you. Asexual women still date. Hot young women have dated rich old guys. There could be other value someone derives from relationships which can motivate them to pursue a relationship even if there isn't a high sexual attraction for their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 02:05 PM |
| 14 | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.hot guy, to an asshole. Plenty of hot assholes still get more women than the average guy. This idea being an assholes negates their attractiveness is complete bullshit and will not be seen in their results. What are the chances this chicks Emiru's next boyfriend is going to be some average Joe nice guy? This is just the typical Blue Pilled feel good narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:34 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Now she is more tolerable than the female gang member, in my opinion at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:40 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Any woman whose main descriptor is being a feminist is not going to be viewed positively by a lot of men. Maybe not as bad as a gang member exactly but still part of a group they'd like to avoid getting involved with. For some guys it's just as bad to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 07:39 PM |
| 5 | Men do NOT need to “do better”.Not necessarily do better, but they should make changes somewhere along the dating pipeline. Self improvement could very well be the change that is required to get better results. There's no reason for that advice to be gendered. Can apply to literally anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:38 PM |
| 2 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.People in general. Not just good people Well clearly these men are listening and taking advice from some people, so they're already doing what you recommend apparently. Notice you had to go with an extreme to argue against people not liking disagreeable. So now you're saying there's limits to how agreeable you want them to be? Why does it matter if they somewhat agreeable or very agreeable? Did you notice I didn’t mention any of that whatsoever? You said being disagreeable was a turn off, so log… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:25 PM |
| -1 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Same reason women shit on Pickmes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:17 PM |
| 2 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.If a person is rarely listening to others, thats a red flag. Again, who are these "others" you keep referring to? Is the Red Pill community included in "others?" Is "others" other men? Being disagreeable is a turn off. So you believe a guy being extremely agreeable is going to be a turn on for women and get him more ass? This is the advice that should be followed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:35 PM |
| 2 | You can’t be doing everything you’re supposed to do if you’re not actually listening to the instructions.good women prefer men who actually listen to others Who are these "others" who you believe they should be listening to? What's the advice you seem to think they should be following? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:16 PM |
| 1 | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.You realize this is a sub filled with a large amount of men who are Red or Black Pilled right? Yeah, most men in these groups have long since moved past giving a shit about being noble or "nice." However, they are outliers. The vast majority of men you encounter everyday are not pilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresOkay, as much as I dislike whataboutism topic shifts I'll answer it this time. If the guy is responsible he would choose option B of the shotgun wedding scenario I presented, marry the chick he knocked up and raise the kid. Baby mamas are a byproduct of both parents being irresponsible usually. Nothing I presented was a one or the other kind of deal, where either the man is irresponsible or the woman is. It's entirely possible for both parties to have made bad decisions and need to take responsi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresThe person I originally responded to in this thread point blank asked what women should do to be more responsible. Someone else responded to that comment asking me about men but that's why my initial statement was just towards women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:38 AM |
| 2 | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.One how would you know what level of attraction is there? The woman knows whether she has high attraction to the guy or not. Betabuxxing is usually when a woman his mid to low attraction for a guy but chooses to get with him anyway for some alternative benefit/utility she can get from him. Could be because he has a high earning career, could be because he's a loyal nice guy, could be because on paper he's a good choice even though he doesn't really get her 😺 going. Only the woman will truly know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresLiterally married but go off though 🙄. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresBecause the question originally asked was what women can do to be responsible. So my answer is advice to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:00 AM |
| 0 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresThe post is about women, so I'm sticking to the topic. Obviously if the guy gave a shit about being responsible he would stick around for the kid or not take risks sleeping with a chick he doesn't like enough to stick with even if she's having his kid. Either way, he'll be held financially responsible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 11:59 PM |
| 3 | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Prioritizing character gets called betabuxxing though. I don't count it as Betabuxxing if there's a decently high sexual attraction towards the guy as well. But focusing too much on just sexual attraction is lust, and it's difficult to build a lifelong relationship with just lust as the foundation. Chad chasing and Betabuxxing are two extreme ends of the same spectrum, neither are good. There has to be a balance between good character and physical attraction, but character is more relevant to a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 09:03 PM |
| 4 | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.It's not that hard to vet for character. It becomes a lot harder when it's an afterthought to whether the person meets a height criteria, charisma criteria, looks criteria, or a dozen other superficial criteria that won't directly correlate to whether the person will make a caring, attentive, or loyal partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:52 PM |
| -4 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresI mean, ideally women should be vetting such men out of the reproduction pool in the first place, but assuming she screwed up by not doing that and getting knocked up by a deadbeat or guy who has zero interest in committed to her long term, those are the only ways she can take accountability for her own life choices. She can't make the guy stay and raise the kid if he doesn't want to do that. Sure, she can hold him accountable financially to an extent but she'll still be a baby mama, which is th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:31 PM |
| 8 | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.agree but choose better doesn’t mean choose better it means “choose me” Or it means literally what the person you're responding to said, which is that a lot of people prioritize attraction and ignore red flags, when they need to be vetting the opposite way and prioritizing character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:21 PM |
| -5 | Society taught women to avoid accountability like it taught men to avoid household choresHere's one, girl gets pregnant outside of wedlock with a hookup or fling. Accountability in this situation would be refusing to follow through with the pregnancy unless the guy proves his commitment by legally marrying her shotgun style. Refusing to sire the children on non-committal men is a good start. Another tip for the woman who like to claim they were used for sex or expected some kind of relationship if they put out. Simple solution for those who don't want to have nsa casual sex without … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:05 PM |
| 6 | Nice guys should accept being aloneI would assume a guy with virtues, whose empathetic towards others problems, cares a lot about his partner, would be a loving father, etc. All the cliche things women claim they want when asked. Opposite traits to the "narcissistic" emotionally unavailable exes or situationship guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:33 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Literally explain how that guy was Red Pilled at all? He was anti PUA. He was Blue/Black Pill at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:37 PM |
| 5 | Do transmaxxers finally prove women do have it better?A lot of women want sex as a part of a relationship. They could have sex after entering a committed exclusive relationship and being together for a while. Casual sex outside of a relationship is called casual sex for a reason. That IS using the other person for sex because they would not have had sex if they knew the other person was leaving immediately afterward. I agree to an extent but women do have ways to avoid this if they care a lot about not having sex without commitment, and that's to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Do transmaxxers finally prove women do have it better?If a man rapes a woman with a condom it can’t be proven It can't be easily proven but their would likely be a struggle or potentially evidence. The victim would know if someone forced themselves on them. This trans situation is different between the woman having sex with the trans has literally no way to know what the trans is thinking without mind reading abilities, so as far as they know they're having consensual sex with a trans woman. If a guy was gay but spent his entire life dating women, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:49 AM |
| 7 | Do transmaxxers finally prove women do have it better?The problem is cosplaying as a woman to get lesbians to have PIV sex is basically rape I mean, this would practically be impossible to prove irl because you would have to prove the person doesn't really feel like a woman. How could one even do that? They're not getting caught unless they point blank admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:18 AM |
| 3 | Do transmaxxers finally prove women do have it better?women don’t have it easier for actual dating; they have it easier to get used for sex If the individuals goal is to have sex and they get exactly that, then they weren't really used. I think you can only really claim a person was used if they were deliberately tricked or lied to into doing something they wouldn't have wanted to do otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.You can repeat that over and over, doesn't change anything I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:08 AM |
| 0 | “Women can’t handle the truth” is manspeak for men not being able to handle incompatibility or not being able to handle valid reactions to his wrongdoingThose guys crash out due to sunk cost Fallacy. They've already invested time in their life, possibly years, that they'll never get back, so they get bitter about that. Guys who find out earlier just date someone else. Like finding out someone has 3 different kids out of wedlock by 3 different partners. Most just cut their losses and avoid that drama all together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 10:17 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.This guy was Black Pill though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.Just because you want something doesn't mean you'll get it. There is such a thing as settling. Not everyone goes to their dream school or gets their dream job. Those same people will still go to a school or find a job to work regardless though. There's plenty of women who likely still married and had a family, even if the guy they ended up with wasn't the hottest or most successful guy they ever dated or slept with. Just because they may have failed to lock down their top choice doesn't mean the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:52 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesI'm saying you guys focus on women you shouldn't want I'm not going to say you're wrong, but this depends a lot on the particular guy's options and whether he has the freedom to be selective like that without eliminating too many women from his dating pool. Sure, ideally a lot of guys would like to avoid women who have at any point dated a douchebag, bad boy, guy with any dark triad traits, cliche frat boy, etc. Or avoid any woman with an above average n count, with BPD, daddy issues, baby mamas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:38 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesmany women have dark triad traits themselves. Or very low self esteem and self worth. None of this negates anything OP said. You're just providing excuses for why they may be choosing poorly, it's still them choosing poorly nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 06:43 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesPsychopaths are extremely good at hiding their true self for long spans of time One, true psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists are not as common as people like to claim. Second, plenty of these men say women make it real easy for them when they're clearly attracted to them from the start. We all know about the halo effect, and that's way more believable than all these guys dedicating a bunch of time and effort into becoming master manipulators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.Most women are deeply disturbed by this description. And I'm sure they're disturbed by being called hypergamous too. I don't see that stopping women from showing a clear preference from men who are tall, rich, or in a position of high status. All of which support the hypergamy claim. An uncomfortable truth doesn't stop being true just because it makes you uncomfortable hearing it. some women tolerate being a side chick or being disrespected, that this somehow justifies how men describe themselve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 03:17 PM |
| – | Men in general unable to tale criticism.I don't know. 🤥 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 01:43 PM |
| – | You don’t have to admit you have a sense of entitlement to have a sense of entitlementSo you don't believe Blue Pillers give advice? Okay, then if that's what you believe why blame men for going to the Red Pill for advice, if you don't believe they ever received advice anywhere else prior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 01:39 PM |
| 3 | Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.I mean, there are literally men and women who do that. Not describing it isn't going to stop people from doing it. You stop describing your symptoms to the doctor and suddenly the illness no longer exists? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 01:31 PM |
| 7 | Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.When it comes to being vulnerable or crying in front of your girlfriend there’s a lot of factors at play, how is being vulnerable? What is he being vulnerable about ? How often is being vulnerable ? How serious is the relationship? What kind of woman is he involved with? What is this woman’s perception of this man? All these factors matter immensely when it comes to how a woman will react. Saying men can be vulnerable with women just so long as they follow a bunch of arbitrary rules around it do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 01:28 PM |
| 4 | Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.Women also participate in being side chicks, in situationships, and one of multiple baby mamas, so what's your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:19 AM |
| 0 | Glorification of step dads is harmful to societySo don't demonize a man not marrying the mother of his children or not using condoms if he doesn't to be a father. I'll demonize both parents for having kids outside of wedlock and having sex without protection. Both individuals made bad choices here. So then no need to demonize a man being a stepfather. Even though the step father is the only responsible person in this scenario, choosing to clean up the mess of irresponsible people isn't exactly a good decision that should be applauded or encou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:46 AM |
| -5 | Glorification of step dads is harmful to societyFunnily enough OP admits to impregnating a woman who didn't want kids. If she didn't want kids then she wouldn't have a kid. It's 2026, women have options if they don't want kids, plenty of options. And somehow with "advice that works" men are always off the hook How is a guy never getting laid again off the hook? Which is what the previous guy suggested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:38 AM |
| -3 | Glorification of step dads is harmful to societyWomen with kids don’t make a big choice like that easy Right, because women never make selfish or reckless decisions. That just doesn't happen... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:34 AM |
| -2 | Glorification of step dads is harmful to societyI was unhappy isn’t stupid. He could be making her life miserable. You do realize that you could be single and unhappy right? Unhappiness doesn't always have to be caused by other people doing something to you. Robin Williams had a great life but was somehow still depressed. You could be going through a midlife crisis and unhappy with where you are in life currently, yet that doesn't mean your spouse is responsible for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:29 AM |
| -2 | Glorification of step dads is harmful to societyMen want shared custody so they don’t have to pay, they don’t want shared custody of the kids So first we have people in the comments claiming men don't want custody. Now it's, they want custody but only because of alterior motives. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:25 AM |
| – | Modern women overrate their value way more than menThe ego protects itself. Also, it shouldn't be a surprise that between all the guys gassing them up on dating apps and Instagram, and simps love bombing for a crumb of 😺, it's not surprising this goes to a lot of women's heads. However, there's really no point having these conversations. The only things that will humble a woman is time and failure. Even then, there are some that will spin it to protect themselves form the reality that they likely didn't qualify for the men they wanted. Instead o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 06:25 PM |
| 9 | unselected men for some reason blamed for the behavior of the men women actually chooseYes and no. They can get sex more easily So the answer is yes then. Maybe and maybe for a pump and dump. Nobody claimed these women could get more than a pump and dump from these guys. You're arguing against your own strawman here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:45 PM |
| 6 | unselected men for some reason blamed for the behavior of the men women actually chooseIt's mostly women complaining and calling the guys thry dated narcissists. It's not men hating on other men to point out to these women that 1) they're picking the guys they claim are assholes or narcissists, and 2) just because the guys they pick are like that doesn't mean men in general are like that. Yet somehow on this sub it always gets conflated that any man who points those two things out hates other men or thinks all men who date are assholes. When it's really just men defending themselv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:41 PM |
| 6 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI mean, life isn't fair. That's an objective fact. and claim something needs to be done about it. What have you heard them claim should be done about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:33 AM |
| – | What is your vetting advice for women?I explained why your advice doesn’t work for many women Should work for most women. Women who literally have no positive male role models, a caring brother, or even a cousin who they can turn to for advice is the exception, not the norm. many women actually do pick well without needing her male relatives to pick for her. My comment was a response to the post asking for advice from men, and that was my advice. Women who are content with all their picks can choose to ignore it if it doesn't apply … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesThe point is that red pill is calling to revive the bad things that men have done historically. That's 🐂. Too many blue pillers forming their opinion of RP through rage bait they see on TikTok. A common phrase in RP is "enjoy the decline." They don't really give a shit about changing society. They're mostly focused on breaking down dating to a science so they can get laid. It's not some political conservative movement or whatever OP seems to think it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:13 AM |
| – | What is your vetting advice for women?My family is great. Then why are you arguing against the idea of going to your great male family members for advice? Seems like a smart thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:00 AM |
| 3 | What is your vetting advice for women?It's a bit trickier if we're talking first dates here. Plenty of people don't go all out in the first date or two when they're just getting to know the person. I'm talking more when some form of relationship is being formed or you've started dating someone in some exclusive capacity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 09:51 PM |
| – | What is your vetting advice for women?and yet you think a woman’s relatives are all just guaranteed to have her best interests at heart? Is your argument here really that none of your male family members give a shit about your well being? Unlikely but if that actually is the case you have my condolences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 09:47 PM |
| 0 | What is your vetting advice for women?I've seen a lot of push-back from men though On this sub? I don't see why there would be pushback on it. In the same way the only thing stopping a woman from cooking for her man is simply the lack of desire to do it and nothing more, nothing stops a guy from showing dedication and affection towards a woman other than him simply not desiring to do so. Obviously the guy who doesn't care but what's to still reap the benefits of the relationship he has whether that a FWB or something else, isn't goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 09:42 PM |
| 3 | What is your vetting advice for women?Going out of his way to do things for her, not because he has to but because he wants to. Planning out romantic gestures, trips, etc without being asked. Wanting to meet her friends and family. Taking an interest in her hobbies or supporting her goals. Not wanting her to be in situations that would cause her harm, pointing those situations out and offering to pick her up or accompany her in those situations. I think there's a lot of overlap between how you would expect a loving father to treat t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 08:18 PM |
| 0 | What is your vetting advice for women?isn't settling for her, has genuine feelings and desire A guy will put in a lot of effort towards a woman he is very attracted to or cares a lot about, not just lip service. would make a good long-term husband and father (as pregnancy and postpartum period are very vulnerable times both physically and financially) They need to focus on the traits that really matter. What are his values? How does he treat his friends & family? What do his exes think of him? Is he empathetic? Is he kind? A guy who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?But we are still expected to take that seriously even though it's just an opinion with no stats to back it up. Yet something like 80/20, supported by dating app stats, for some reason should be completely ignored because you don't agree with those stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Why do so many men have a victim mentality when it comes to romance and dating?Men are free to use facts and science to pick their issues too. The 80/20 rule is not a real science What exactly makes the stats and studies more credible than the ones men pull up, aside from just bias? Like you laugh at the 80/20 thing, yet women expect us to take shit like Man vs Bear seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 01:50 PM |
| 5 | What would you call the emotional male monologues on this sub and why?I don't see why we need to invent a new term specifically for when men voice grievances instead of women. It's all the same shit. All humans eventually complain about problems they have, we don't need a new term for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 01:43 PM |
| 3 | The phenomenon of passport bros is natural selection at workSo that is expensive but travelling to a whole other country and paying flights Traveling by itself is generally fun for most people. Being able to date hot foreign chicks while doing it is just icing on the cake. Prostitution is as illegal in the US as weed is. It's expensive AND illegal, while dating abroad is legal and can develop into an LTR or marriage. Seeing prostitutes forever has zero opportunity to develop into anything. It's literally just a money sink that goes nowhere. Also the expa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:25 AM |
| 7 | The phenomenon of passport bros is natural selection at workWho knows? Could literally ask that of any women, even those in the West. Unfortunately, most guys aren't going to get an answer to this unless they hit a low point in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:04 PM |
| 7 | The phenomenon of passport bros is natural selection at workHe could go to a strip club or underground brothel It's expensive, guys get way less out of that arrangement, and some countries like the USA it's illegal. Does he actually think that these women want him? Did the woman back home want him? At least he has more options to choose from now, which mean a greater chance of finding a woman who he's happy to be with and who adds value to his life and makes him feel content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.How are you defining respect You may not like your boss at all times but you show them respect. You may not always like your parents but you show them respect. One simply needs to be competent to rise in our society, being likeable doesn't guarantee a guy anything. do you dislike common stereotypes about men such as them only wanting sex, being seen as selfish, and being seen as a threat? Nobody likes stereotypes, but irl these things don't effect men's success at all. Women have known for a lon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 04:24 PM |
| 0 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.I much prefer being respected than liked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 03:18 PM |
| 6 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.Women are more agreeable than men. Guess what? People like agreeable people. If you want to be on a team, be a team player. Similar to men being more disagreeable, boys are more likely to have behavioral problems, which relates to most criminals being men. I don't see what your point was in bringing these things up then, because you present being agreeable as a positive, then present men being disagreeable as a negative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.OP is arguing for guys to be more agreeable in parts of her post, which is generally bad advice for men. How agreeable are high status men or men juggling multiple women at the same time? How agreeable are managers, CEOs, etc? Pretty much the men that are most agreeable are the men women like the least. Simps, guys in the friendzone, yes men, etc. Which is why this advice is horrible for men in practice and should be ignored for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 02:03 PM |
| 3 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.The vast majority of people have never told men that. But you're telling men to be more agreeable in your post. So, clearly you don't see an issue with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 01:57 PM |
| 9 | The phenomenon of passport bros is natural selection at workand it is because they are hoping to land a western man and will have sex with him lol. So, let's say an incel (involuntary celibate) or even just an average dude travels to these countries, and suddenly a ton of women are trying to have sex with him, you don't think that's going to be an improvement in his eyes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 01:35 PM |
| 8 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.If anyone needed more examples of why men shouldn't take dating advice from women. Try getting laid as the most agreeable guy on the planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 01:27 PM |
| 1 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.Please learn the meaning of the word abuse because that ain't it. You repeating something that's wrong over and over again won't magically make it true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 07:14 AM |
| 3 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.Big difference between claiming a situation is potentially a red flag vs definitively stating someone is abusive with literally no actual evidence to back it up. You did the later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 07:04 AM |
| 2 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.A guy whose 59 dating a woman whose 19 isn't abuse. Feels like you don't quite understand what the meaning of the word "abuse" is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 06:53 AM |
| 0 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.It’s abuse. Again, what are you basing this claim on? Being old =/= abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 04:40 AM |
| 0 | We agree alot with each other, but for some reason men are wrong for saying it.Also, a man in his 50’s who is dating a teenager (40 years younger than him) is an abusive predator. Based on what? How could you possibly know that a person is abusive based on age alone? That's completely ridiculous. Also, you didn't actually address why we would hold a man accountable for a decision that blows up in his face but not a woman. Nothing you said justifies the double standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 01:53 AM |
| 5 | The Manosphere that claims Women will end up "alone and with cats" if they chase men out off theyre league, dont have a clue how many needy Guys there are. No Women will end alone without choosing to be alone.Is it? Yes, it is. You can't compare something you've never had. How can I compare Ruth's Chris to McDonald's when I've never eaten at Ruth's Chris. Only after I've eaten tried Ruth's Chris will I have a point of comparison for food I partake in afterwards. They "think" it makes sense; they've never actually tested it against data. The data shows that promiscuous individuals have higher rates of cheating and divorce. Based on people I know personally who went down that path and struggle with mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 07:15 PM |
| 5 | What’s your opinion on the friend zone?The friendzone is a place no one should ever want to be. And let's be clear that there's a distinction between actual platonic friendship and the friendzone. Being stuck in the friendzone implies one friend has unrequited feelings for the other. That situation is definitely not good for the individual's mental health, and they should either be upfront about how they feel or separate from the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 06:26 PM |
| 4 | The Manosphere that claims Women will end up "alone and with cats" if they chase men out off theyre league, dont have a clue how many needy Guys there are. No Women will end alone without choosing to be alone.Big difference between chasing and actually sleeping with/dating Chad/Stacy's. I'm only counting actual forms of relationships here. Pining after Zach Efron isn't a relationship. Actually hooking up with Zach Efron then trying to settle down with a average Joe from Accounting is a different story entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 05:30 PM |
| 2 | The Manosphere that claims Women will end up "alone and with cats" if they chase men out off theyre league, dont have a clue how many needy Guys there are. No Women will end alone without choosing to be alone.I don't think the point is that literally no guy will want them past 30, 40, or whatever. I think the point is that is they spend their entire youth chasing/sleeping with guys above their level, are they then suddenly going to be content with men on their level? Probably not. They'll remain single of their own accord due to the never settle feminist rhetoric combined with an over inflated ego from dating up in their 20's. Would be like if someone was given a free pass to eat at 5 star restaurant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Is deciding to to go to a country with a lower divorce rate than yours and find a life partner there immoral in your view?No. What's the positive in staying in a place with a high divorce rate? All that shows is that the citizens there don't take marriage as a serious lifelong commitment. You're more likely to find a partner for "life" in a place with people actually only choose divorce as a last resort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Red Pillers idolize the wrong menProbably Destiny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 02:18 AM |
| 4 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menBut if she couldn't land the Jock, doesn't that mean she is Beta Billy's equivalent? That would be like if a guy asked a girl out, she rejected him, then he immediately turns to you to ask you out. You going to feel like a winner in that situation? Whether you're closer to that guys level is irrelevant. Being the backup option does not make you a winner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 10:10 PM |
| 13 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menYeah, that's the funny part too. The narrative is that Beta Billy won by jumping through hoops to eventually win over the woman the jock didn't want to keep anyway. The jock still eventually gets with a girl he actually wants at some point. That's like calling Leonardo Di'Caprio a loser when he's the one smashing and passing these models and could wife any of them if he actually felt like it, he just chooses not to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 06:24 PM |
| 1 | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.“men settle for sex, women settle for relationships” You're average guy does not have nearly the same options for sex as the average woman, so why even pretend like it's a 1:1 comparison here? Guys openly admit that they settle for sex because of how difficult it is for them to get it on a regular basis. Obviously, if they're sleeping down, that means there are women sleeping up. If women are capable of sleeping up and get hundreds of offers through dating apps, which they clearly do, the narrat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 06:19 PM |
| 6 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menA hobo can be charming, case and point that guy who got famous for flirting with women in NY so he could find a place to stay. Spent all his time doing that but wouldn't get a job. Can't conflate being able to flirt with having a high IQ, but women do tend to conflate the two which is a mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 05:20 PM |
| 27 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menMen go through this learning curve Yeah, it's called getting red pilled watching the girls around them chase hot jocks and mostly ignore beta Billy until the hot jock won't commit or has already caused emotional trauma. Yet, for some reason women complain about men 'learning' from what they've seen first hand over the past decade or more of there lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 05:15 PM |
| 22 | Red Pillers idolize the wrong menPretty sure Clav is the spokesman for Blackpillers, but that's besides the point. Guys will follow men who get the results they want to have. I wouldn't take advice from a homeless man on real estate, I don't care how good his personality is. I'm taking advice from the guy who made millions flipping houses, even if he's a humongous douchebag. Guys like Clav and Tate get results, that's why people follow them. And I think the reason RP propped up Tate so much is because despite being a complete a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 02:26 PM |
| 1 | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Think of it like the equivalent of a man sleeping with a woman he does not find particularly attractive but he wants to scratch an itch. That's literally my point. In the same way you wouldn't say that a guy sleeping with a chick doesn't prove he likes her or has a very high attraction to her, since it could just be him trying to get off or break a dry spell. Women sometimes use relationships in a similar way. They might pick a guy because he's financially stable, provides a certain lifestyle, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 02:13 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Being willing to take risk is not an indication of desire Depends if the woman we're talking about takes that same risk with any guy who shoots their shot. If she's only taking that risk with some guys, then clearly she favors those guys for one reason or the other. Being committed to one person is always going to be the ultimate way to show true desire Not always. Sometimes people settle. The guy could be chosen because he's the safe stable option, which isn't exactly a compliment to men. Anna … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 09:33 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.The difference between "he's just a friend" and the FWB is mostly sexual attraction. But sure, we can continue to pretend women are completely oblivious to the men in their friend group who show interest in them and would instantly take the shot when given the green light. Let's just pretend it's all completely random jeopardy who they lay down with. I'm sure some naive sob reading this might still believe that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work.Sigh, sometimes I too wish I could return to being a naive blue piller who sees the world through rose colored glasses. But alas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 08:34 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Meh, that's skill issue mostly. Getting what they want is a skill issue? Huh? Anyway, it's mostly about their actions than looks or something else. You let any random guy you think is ugly or mid hit? Probably not. They had to meet some standards to score in the first place. You being a repeat customer is just icing on the ego cake at this point. It's 100% ROI with zero investment. And it's not like they are valued. You already admitted you value them for the sex. You're the one assuming they wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 08:21 PM |
| 3 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenProblem for who exactly? It's definitely now a problem for fukbois and players who want nothing more than to get their dicks serviced and accomplish that on a regular basis. So whose problem is it then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 08:14 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.I'm wondering how they might feel as if they are desirable here, You saying "they fuck me good" already proves you find them desirable. They're ego is already boosted by this for obvious reasons which was OPs point. You not wanting to stick around and talk about your day with them is not taking down a peg. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:59 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Still chose him over the beta Billy sitting in her friendzone for 5+ years she could have called over to satisfy her but didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:54 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.Casual sex is just reckless. That's just more validation towards the guy she's willing to take risks with early on vs making other guys prove they're worth having sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:51 PM |
| – | The majority of women can’t make men feel as desired as women who engage in casual sex with them.That's just the default standard of monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenThe person you responded to said generally. Because even that much can't really be proven, so why even try to make that point? There's nothing to back up that claim. Why are y'all always eager to point to exceptions Can you prove these are exceptions? We care so much about social approval and status, yet elementary school teachers are constantly hooking up with gangbangers. Men lie, women lie, fertility rates (numbers) don't lie. I have yet to see any evidence that being a teacher somehow makes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:40 PM |
| – | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenhaving babies with men that have multiple baby mamas, are generally lower quality women. That's cope. I know female engineers that have done that shit. Is Ciara a low quality woman too? This just keeps reinforcing the false stereotype that woman date based on morals and aren't picking based on superficial factors such as looks, money, or excitement. Women are human, and just like men they can be attracted to partners for superficial reasons. There's no reason to believe they're date more morally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:16 PM |
| 2 | It's 2040. Sex robots are still not mainstream. Here's why.Did you know that they were actually remotely operated by people from India? How does that change the fact that the robot is still physically capable of making those movements? With the artificial intelligence we currently have, when uploaded into those robots, you think it'll still take hundreds of years for the robot to be able to pilot itself? Think about that seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:07 PM |
| 10 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenSo we should just consider any woman with a toxic ex they claim is a narcissist, or who had a bad boy phase mentally ill? Gee that's convenient. It's okay to admit that sometimes people chase the hottest most exciting option available to them for the dopamine rush, and women aren't exactly tripping over themselves to jump on the dick of the biggest nice guy in the neighborhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:02 PM |
| 4 | It's 2040. Sex robots are still not mainstream. Here's why.Maybe in the year 2500, not before Look at how fast AI developed in just 2-3 years. It's not going to take hundreds of years. Companies are already showcasing the first iterations of household assistant robots right now. You think it'll take 100+ years to get those to look human? Every advancement accelerates the rate of growth for the technology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 05:55 PM |
| 23 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womena "good personality" is not enough anymore This is a hilarious argument. All one has to do is look at guys with multiple baby mamas or the fertility rates of convicts vs men who have never been to prison (they have multiple times the chance of reproducing than the average guy btw), to realize that's not even a primary requirement. Unless by "good" you just mean exciting and not having good values or being virtuous as the baseline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 05:48 PM |
| 3 | It's 2040. Sex robots are still not mainstream. Here's why.Don't know why you think it's impossible for them to develop a robot that looks and feels human if they can develop a robot which can similar human conversation and emotions to such a degree that people fall in love with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 05:44 PM |
| 4 | It's 2040. Sex robots are still not mainstream. Here's why.And that's the problem with sex robots. It would be very hard to be discreet about using them. With porn, you can simply exit out of a tab and with small sex toys, you can simply hide them in your closet. This is somewhat true. However, I think in the future a lot of people will also have maid/housekeeping robots that look human, and at that point it would be hard to prove if the person is using the robot for sex when that same robot could probably serve numerous other functions. Well chances ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Women's preferences make senseDo you even know any manosphere or RP beliefs, or in your mind is the manosphere just a group of people with blind hatred of women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Women peak 18-25It only matters to the individual who is trying to moralize their preferences. Similar excuses could be made for liking a guy because of his height. How many women are just going to bluntly admit to liking a guy for his money or the lifestyle he provides? They have the social awareness to know that sounds superficial, and most don't want to come off as superficial or gold diggers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 06:56 PM |
| 3 | Women's preferences make senseYour claim was that manosphere beliefs are mainstream. Those are individuals who have manosphere beliefs, are those beliefs mainstream in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 06:50 PM |
| 3 | Women's preferences make senseYou honestly believe the opinions of a guy like Andrew Tate or guys like Fresh & Fit are widely accepted by the mainstream media or the general public? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 06:28 PM |
| 8 | Women's preferences make senseI think most people are fine with women having these standards. What men take issue with is more so: 1) The gaslighting that women are less superficial than men, when clearly they aren't. 2) When they chase the men who fit those standards, it doesn't go well, then they turn around and act like all men are cheaters or emotionally abusive, when in reality those are just common traits among the particular guys they have a preference for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:51 PM |
| 9 | Being wanted is better than being neededUnless you're handicapped, technically nobody needs anybody. However, for the individuals who feel the need to announce this fact, it comes off as insecure. Has the same energy as if a guy went around saying he's Alpha. Sounds like he's compensating, otherwise, why would he feel the need to tell everyone around him this. Confident people, don't feel the need to tell everyone they're confident. Most people don't have to go around stating that they don't need other people. Under normal circumstanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:41 PM |
| -2 | We need to stop the contradictions/gaslighting towards menMen understate how much they care, but they do care. They don't care as much as you seem to think they care. Men care about a woman's career and earning potential about as much as women care about how "nice" a guy is. Like, yeah, it matters somewhat, but not more than numerous other traits they care about way more. Tons of broke young attractive chicks doing just fine in the dating market. Lack of a lucrative career is not a major reason women struggle in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Women peak 18-25What's inaccurate is that you're saying that money is the end-all be-all. Good thing that's not what I was saying then. Statements like "women make money now too" is mostly used as a sort of implication that because of this they don't care about the man's money. But that's usually bullshit because I'm sure even you will admit that most women have financial standards whether they are rich or poor. It's not the only thing that matters but it does matter to a lot of women, and it is something that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 03:41 AM |
| -1 | Women peak 18-25Explain exactly what I said that's inaccurate. Does women making their own money eliminate the financial expectations they have of men, yes or no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 03:01 AM |
| -1 | Women peak 18-25The distinction is irrelevant if bottom line they're still attracted to guys who make more money, the exact breakdown of why just doesn't make a difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:24 AM |
| -3 | Women peak 18-25But women are making their own money. Doesn't negate hypergamy. Just means the woman making six figures now expects the guy she gets with to make around that much or more, or be in the process of working up to that. The financial standards don't disappear, women just raise them higher. Women are fully capable of paying for their own meals and yet many still expect men to pay on the first date. These desires are not based on logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 02:22 AM |
| 0 | If simping worked most men would do itCan you point to a woman for whom it works being a pick me ? So a guy is attracted to a woman, this woman is laughing at his jokes, stroking his ego, etc, and you think this will honestly be a turn off for him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 08:57 PM |
| 1 | If simping worked most men would do itOnly difference is simping is often a turn off for women, pick me behavior from women at worst invokes indifference in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 08:55 PM |
| 0 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessI feel like my comment is somewhat being misunderstood. My point in bringing up that story is not to encourage people who don't want kids to have kids. I don't believe everyone on the planet will make good parents, especially if they have no desire to be parents. My great grandmother had 11 because she just really loved kids, not as a retirement plan. But on the other hand, I do want to call a spade a spade. The claim that a person with zero kids has the same chances of dying alone with no loved… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 04:43 PM |
| -1 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessIt doesn’t matter how many friends, family members or kids you have you run the same risk of dying alone You're talking to a guy whose great grandmother and grandmother both died surrounded by family. My great grandmother had 11 kids and at least 50 people showed up to her 100th birthday. Both my great grandmother and grandmother had kids that took care of them till the literal moment they died. So obviously, I disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 03:57 PM |
| 0 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessI am saying that normal people date all the time. So your claim here is the nerdy engineer I just described was frequently getting dates with ease throughout his youth? Is that correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 03:24 PM |
| 0 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessWhat you're doing is the equivalent to me pointing to some socially awkward nerdy engineer in his 30's who happens to be married and claiming "see, clearly is bachelor life was flourishing and he could have lived like Leonardo Di'Caprio if he wanted." You know that's a flawed argument bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessThe average guy is also dating. A large portion of young men meet women through dating apps. Just look up the stats for how many get matches that convert into actual dates. And just because they go out on a date doesn't mean it converts to a relationship or sex. Frequency isn't taken into account in these discussions for some reason. Just because you look around and randomly see some guys in relationships doesn't mean you can assess their entire relationship situation from that. They could have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 03:05 PM |
| -2 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessI worked in one for many years and the vast majority of residents aren’t visited by their spouse or kids. You're missing the point. The argument that one will just be self sufficient at that age or rely on friends is a false narrative. In reality, the youth will have to take care of you after a certain age. May not be your kids but then the responsibility shifts to someone else's kids or grandkids. Same for social security. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 01:11 PM |
| -8 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessGo into an old folks home or hospice and tell them to just be self sufficient. Clearly it's easy when you're pushing 80+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:40 PM |
| -1 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessThe problem is when they think men are immune to loneliness and capable of maintaining a swinging bachelor life into old age. Your average guy is no Leonardo DiCaprio. Most start at the loneliness phase. Only a small minority of men are thoroughly enjoying being bachelors because they have more options than the average guy. Those are the men that women constantly complain about never wanting to commit or being "emotionally unavailable." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:36 PM |
| – | what women think men want vs what men actually want" is taken upwardsWomen think men want a feminine calm graceful woman while what men actually like is a woman with a man's personality. The feminine woman you just described is literally my type lol. The reality is there's no one type of girl all men like. Some guys like the tom boys, some the hippies, some the feminine archetype, some the church girl, etc. What men in general tend to not like is women who are high maintenance and bring more drama and stress to their lives than necessary. Outside of that, there's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media?By "useless" I mean unactionable. Like "just be yourself." What the fuck is that supposed to tell you? Everyone is themselves from birth. What if "yourself" is an introvert or socially awkward. A lot of Blue Pilled 'advice' is just feel good platitudes that don't take into account what each individual is lacking and exactly what they need to improve on and how. But ultimately you're right that if you're ugly, there's a limit to how much any advice can help you in the dating market. But some advi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 11:42 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Theoretically could a form of PUA exist that is not "manipulative", that doesn't "trick" women, that doesn't "harm" women, and works according to you? Or is any attempt men make at trying to develop social skills that would be more attractive to women "manipulative" and "harms women"?tend to leave out vital information or bend or break things knowing the truth will cause the woman to reject them. True but don't women do this too? For instance avoiding talking about subjects like how many guys they slept with, if they're still hookup up with guys during the dating phase, or things of that nature. The lack of 100% full disclosure from the jump happens on both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 08:35 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on Polygamist Cults?Per RP ideologies, aren’t polygamist cults like the ideal scenario for men? You have multiple wives, all sahm, lots of children and they are submissive. Don't know what you think RP is about, but it's not that. Monogamy has historically proven to be the most sustainable model for the nuclear family and also just keeping most of society content in general. However, a common phrase in RP is "enjoy the decline." So if a man wants to be greedy by spinning plates and having multiple baby mamas, it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 08:26 PM |
| 16 | Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media?The useless kind that put men on the Red Pilled path to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 06:39 PM |
| – | Would you enter a relationship your ideal female partner if you could never have sex again?That's like saying, "what if someone made you the most perfect and best tasting meal in existence, but you can never eat it?" Then what's the fucking point? A hot chick you can never bang is the equivalent to this. Only asexuals would find this arrangement appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 05:47 PM |
| 1 | PUA for men is demonized, yet makeup/provocative clothing is accepted for women, even though both are forms of manipulation/seduction for attracting the opposite sexGuys are not experts on makeup. If it looks extremely caked on, sure, but it's the trend nowadays to try to make the makeup appear more subtle and men are not experts on makeup to the point where they can tell exactly how much is being used at a glance. And another thing is that women sometimes use aside from makeup is padded bras or jeans. My old roommate got tricked by the padded jeans and only realized that the ass was flat when the jeans came off, but at that point he wasn't going to back ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 05:43 PM |
| – | Why do men tend to be so mean to fat women?This seems to be very evident online. People say a lot of inappropriate things online. I think there's needs to be some separation between what we experience in specific bubbles online vs in real life. **"But women bully unattractive men too" NOPE. The worst thing a woman says is short king, which actually sounds nice. You're entire argument lost credibility by you downplaying and ignoring the fact that men get just as much hate for being short. Terms like "manlet" are not compliments and there'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 03:53 PM |
| 7 | For men who only listen to themselves, they never want women’s dating advice to work.“learn to shoot, dribble and defend,” that’s still unactionable and useless. You just dont want to do it. No, he's right. Get better at shooting doesn't explain how he can get better at shooting. The advice is still too general to be useful. The individual is going to have to look further for advice on how exactly to improve his shooting, the wrist movements, the jump, the actual specifics. It would be like if you asked me how to make make chicken parmesan and I tell you to just make a crispy ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 03:46 PM |
| 1 | If the redpill is actually amoral, they wouldn’t be insulting women.If TRP phrased it this way there wouldn't be a problem. The target audience for these statements are other men, and men generally do not care for phrasing or making statements PC. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 01:45 AM |
| 3 | If the redpill is actually amoral, they wouldn’t be insulting women.A truth having bad connotations is still the truth though. Someone saying that another person is fat doesn't automatically imply that the person had bad intentions or wanted to imply blame like OP seems to be suggesting. They could simply be stating a blunt fact as they see it and not feel the need to try and sugar coat things or dance around the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Men and women who are complaining about dating need to change things. Men and women who aren't complaining don't need to change anything. It's that simple. Obviously there are both men and women who occasionally have grievances and there's plenty of proof of this online, so claiming women simply do not complain about the dating market or guys they've dated is blatantly false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 01:36 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Guys with degrees were completely out of my league, and if they did show interest it was not the take home to mom interest, it was only for sex. Don't know why you're assuming it was because you didn't have a degree. Lots of reasons a guy might pump and dump. They could have not liked your personality as much as you thought they did, they could have thought you were hot enough to bang but not hot enough to commit to, or maybe they were having fun playing the field and weren't even relationship m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 01:33 AM |
| 3 | Why do toxic guys always seem to have girlfriends, but normal guys struggle?Most assholes are assholes cuz they lack confidence Nonsense. A lot of assholes are like Trump, say and do whatever they feel like with little regard for how it affects others because they're borderline narcissistic, but this behavior often gets confused as confidence. Trump is a great example that guys can be popular, charismatic, and confident, despite openly exhibiting asshole behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/26 11:56 AM |
| 3 | Why do toxic guys always seem to have girlfriends, but normal guys struggle?hopefully have someone in her life to point out the fact that she makes terrible dating choices. You think they listen? Women aren't like men in the fact that they don't really like to break down dating to a science and overthink on the pros/cons of dating said person long-term. At least not in their youth. Younger women generally prefer to just go based on vibes and what feels right at that moment. That's why a lot of women push the narrative that the past doesn't matter, YOLO! Guys don't reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/26 11:47 AM |
| 7 | Why do toxic guys always seem to have girlfriends, but normal guys struggle?A lot of toxic people are particularly adept at social manipulation Social manipulation? You could just say they're social. It's true that a guy who is toxic in relationships can still be popular or charismatic. Or at least more so than Mr. Nice guy. Just being "nice" but average isn't enough to be appealing. Social clout and the ability to flirt carries say more weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/26 11:36 AM |
| 5 | Men make long term relationships unsustainableSeems like a concept OP doesn't understand either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Women do not peak in their 20sWhen most people talk about a "peak" they usually mean physically or in attractiveness. You seem to be using some subjective alternative description of peaking where it's based on divorce rates or something of that nature? I'm not entirely sure really. Feel free to clarify what your definition of peak is exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Men are coping too much about women who don't desire themI am trying to get you out there and perhaps find someone. I met my husband through a female friend. I'm literally married. Sure, I also met my wife through friends but I didn't slowly become her friend or anything, I pretty much asked her out the second time I met her. This isn't the same as the scenario you were talking about earlier, where you like someone and stick around as friends in the hopes that they eventually introduce you to someone else to date. This only might work if you don't hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 02:09 PM |
| 9 | Men are coping too much about women who don't desire themOften the 'feelings' are just horniness. 🙄 Unless you're a mind reader, you don't know. You're just making a convenient excuse in an attempt to try and justify friendzoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 01:43 PM |
| 13 | Men are coping too much about women who don't desire themHaving pity relationships that never progress to anything serious obviously isn't a good idea for someone who want a family. This would only somewhat work out for a young guy who isn't marriage minded. Any person who wants a spouse Or family will be wasting their time dating someone who doesn't want that with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 01:32 PM |
| 10 | Men are coping too much about women who don't desire themIt's not real friendship if one person has unrequited feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 01:18 PM |
| 12 | Men are coping too much about women who don't desire themIf you think women are going to stick with a guy they settled for and treat him well till death do they part, look at how many divorces are initiated by women. Like the other guy said, sure, it's possible, but extremely unlikely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 01:16 PM |
| -1 | Men not caring enough about men's issues is not the problem. The problem is that women only ever think about women's issues.Mothers are the ones who statically abuse there kids more often. So by your own logic they shouldn't start with even half custody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/26 01:51 AM |
| 3 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?Okay, but what does that change about what I said? If she is consistently pairing up with men more prone to abuse her, she will continue to contribute to her own problems until she chances her preferences and starts dating less toxic men. There is a woman I know who does that as well and even somewhat admitted that she's attracted to men with more jaded pasts. I told her essentially the same thing I'm saying right now because unsurprisingly these men more often than not tend to have toxic/abusiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Men present a false narrative in datingMy issues with arguments like this is that although I'm not saying your wrong and maybe some of these guys aren't normal nice guys, so what if they actually were normal nice guys with reasonably low standards? Women will suddenly be all over then because Just World Fallacy and being so nice makes them horny? Who cares about the distinction between the fake nice guys and real nice guys if they're both getting the same results? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 04:21 PM |
| 0 | Society made it so that women can earn equal to men and now women can no longer find someone who earns more than them. Women today have been so masculinized that they don't even find men attractive.Maybe he figured out that you tolerate it anyway so he doesn't care. It's up to everyone to determine what they are willing to put up with in a relationship and have the ability to walk away when someone isn't doing their share. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 02:20 PM |
| 3 | Women are the ones red pilling menOtherwise there wouldn't be groups called, "Are we dating the same man" if men didn't care about admitting it. You misunderstood my statement. I was saying we don't care about admitting if we like the same kinds of women or traits because who gives a shit if we do? So what if we find the same 5% hottest chicks attractive? Sure, some women like tall dudes, The majority do. The women that actually prefer 5'4 guys with dad bods are the minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 01:33 PM |
| 3 | Women are the ones red pilling menYeah, a lot of us find big asses and titties hot. We don't pretend to all be unique about what we like. There's a lot of overlap. That's the difference between men and women, we don't give a shit about just admitting that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 02:22 AM |
| 4 | Women are the ones red pilling menNot feminism specifically. I'd say it's more so a problem when a woman holds feminist ideals but their own desires don't align with said ideals. For example, a woman may claim to find gender role expectations wrong, yet still hold an expectation for a guy to wine and dine her in a traditional fashion. Or she may claim to be against toxic masculinity, yet still get the ick if a guy shows too much emotion or if she finds out he's bi because it doesn't suit her idea of what a masculine man should b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 02:20 AM |
| 6 | Women are the ones red pilling menDepends heavily on the topic. One topic could be about women who have gender role expectations of men despite labelling themselves as feminists, another could be about women who say they just want a "nice guy" and whose standards are on the floor but then the type of guys they're seen dating don't meet that description. Depending on the topic a guy could know a significant amount of women that meet the description or just a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 09:38 PM |
| 5 | Women are the ones red pilling menSure, they could be biased. But I think the burden of proof is more on the individuals who want to prove that the individual's lived experiences are exceptions and not the standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Women are the ones red pilling menOverlap proves that yes, they can all like the same 5%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 07:26 PM |
| 5 | Women are the ones red pilling menGod forbid someone look for advice to solve a problem they have. Like OP said, if they weren't already having issues they wouldn't be looking for solutions and end up in RP. OPs point remains true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 07:25 PM |
| 3 | Women are the ones red pilling menDo you think that this is new/recent behavior? Legit never implied that it was. men sometimes used to have whole ass second families that were kept secret. Now multiple women will line up to be baby mamas. Guys like this can make multiple families openly in 2026. Even if the woman could prove fault in divorce court due to infidelity, which wasn't an easy feat, it was extremely difficult back then Why are you going on a long tangent about what used to be the case? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 07:23 PM |
| 7 | Women are the ones red pilling menAren't the majority of red pill followers young men who have limited experience though? Young men don't interact or go out with women? There's an alarming number of teens pulled into the pipeline Maybe that should tell you something about the dating market for current generations. If shit was going well they wouldn't be looking for solutions in the first place. So I guess it makes sense if you want an immature woman... You just said yourself that most people are immature. So what exactly is this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Women are the ones red pilling menIf multiple women like the same guy, you can't say for a fact they all are attracted to different guys. Clearly that guy has things they're all attracted to so there's overlap and it's entirely possible they all have the same general taste in men. If it were a fact that all women were attracted to different things, there would be no overlap or multiple women pining after the same men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 06:17 PM |
| 6 | Women are the ones red pilling menEvery woman has a different top 5%. That's 🐂💩. If that 5% was completely different for every woman, their wouldn't be men with harems, baby mamas, spinning plates, etc. Woman wouldn't also be creating websites to track when they're dating the same men. Clearly there's a significant overlap between what a large portion of the female population finds attractive. Yeah, they all have some unique niche preferences but that doesn't negate the fact that a tall handsome guy is likely to be attractive to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 06:04 PM |
| 10 | Women are the ones red pilling menStill missing OPs point. If men didn't know multiple women like that irl, they wouldn't get red pilled. If the woman they showcased and the experiences don't align with the guy's own lives experiences, he's likely just going to disagree and stay blue pilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 06:00 PM |
| 6 | Negging and shit-testing are the same thing.The term was literally created because of women testing guys for arbitrary reasons. But you're not wrong that it's only really something an immature person would do. You're not likely to see a 30 year old woman do shit tests but a college girl might. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 01:51 AM |
| 8 | Negging and shit-testing are the same thing.It's when someone (usually a woman) does dumb shit to see how you'll react. Like having her friend flirt with a guy to see if he's loyal, testing a guy on how frequently he calls or texts, pushing boundaries for no other reason than to see how he reacts, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 01:42 AM |
| 11 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?Let's say we have a woman who because of her upbringing finds herself consistently attracted to abusive guys. We can shit on those guys all day long but if she keeps replacing one toxic ex for a new toxic guy, who life does not improve in the slightest. The cycle only breaks when she is forced to come to terms with the fact that she is picking these men and makes a conscious decision to alter what she is looking for and pair up with a better man. If she just blames the guy and goes back to the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 01:30 AM |
| -1 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?They are being picked off and manipulated into relationships If a woman encounters five guys who show interest in her and she chooses to invest her time in the one abusive guy among them, how exactly was she forced to choose that guy over the normal non-abusive men? What are you implying that the abusive guy is doing that somehow takes away her agency and ability to choose to be with someone else besides him? Of course shitty people exist, that's literally why vetting exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 09:56 PM |
| -4 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?Many women who get with abusive men were abused as children. Sounds like you're saying that they pick abusive men because that's what is familiar to them. However, that doesn't argue against the fact that they are still choosing these types of men of their free will. It just explains why they have a preference for toxic abusive men over normal stable men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 07:29 PM |
| 5 | “Those women should have picked better”Depends how you define "good." If by good you mean a decent law abiding person with morals, I think most people are good. If I define good as a hot chick with big tits, she might be good based on my standards, but those standards don't exactly filter for someone whose moral. A lot of moral people might not meet those standards, while a lot of immoral people possibly could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 05:41 PM |
| 6 | “Those women should have picked better”They aren't asking for advice and want none. So they're just screaming into the void. Got it! They are explaining why they got divorced/are single moms There's nothing to explain if they don't want to have an actual conversation on the matter. They choose to engage people on the matter and unsurprisingly other people can have opinions that don't align with their own. If someone can't have that adult conversation or take any criticism, they're free to keep to themselves and stay in their safe spa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 03:43 PM |
| 6 | “Those women should have picked better”You're not really blaming men there though. You're removing all agency from men to have morals The guy can be immoral and it can still be the woman in this situation complaining about him to others responsibility to leave said guy and avoid dating immoral men in the future. Both things can be true at the same time. Her boyfriend can be an asshole and it can still be on her to not date assholes. Of course by the exact same logic, if average men gain all these options of average women then they'd … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 03:34 PM |
| 7 | “Those women should have picked better”Because of men's in-group bias that they refuse to acknowledge. If there was an in-group bias would men acknowledge other men not being a good choice? How is there a bias when we're critical about each other? Who the fuck is this to or about? This is to any woman who wants to complain to others about the men she chooses to date, then wants to come up with 101 excuses to not take any advice on the matter that involves personal accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 02:39 PM |
| 9 | “Those women should have picked better”They're not actually advising on how to "improve her selection process," they're playing wingman for unchosen men under the guise of "advice." Now this is complete and utter nonsense. Why would any guy care about playing wingman for some random other guy you might date in the future? It would be better to just admit to yourself that you don't want advice, you just want to complain and not hear any solutions because you don't plan to change anything, rather than doing these absurd mental gymnasti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 01:59 PM |
| 35 | “Those women should have picked better”Okay, but what other advice do you expect to receive when you complain about the results of your own choices? Woman has choices, woman chooses the bad option among her choices, woman chooses to complain to other men about the shitty man she chose, men advise her so she can avoid making the shitty choice again, woman complains about being advised on how to improve her selection process. So then what was to point of complaining to men about this if you didn't want advice? Do women just want to scr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Men on here are contradictoryAlso men: “I would never date a fat woman, single mothers, women with high body counts, women who wear a lot of makeup, women who have plastic surgery, women who are feminists, or women over 30 - they’re unattractive and have less value.” Not every guy on here is an incel (involuntary celibate). I've always had options, so I never had to settle for fat chicks or baby mamas. Obviously, the less options a guy has the lower his standards are likely to be, and vice versa. That’s a huge portion of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 02:51 PM |
| 0 | Age gap relationships: Most people against them are being disingenuousYoung women increasingly dont want to date anyone more than 2+ years older If we don't believe these relationships are happening, then why have these discussions at all? And if they do happen, then clearly some young individuals are opting to date up, even if it's not the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Age gap relationships: Most people against them are being disingenuousThis is the fair take. It makes sense to be cautious but also wait to confirm the details before making too many assumptions. Too many people on here treat it like it immediately means manipulation while having zero context into the nature of the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 07:18 PM |
| – | In their victimblaming men deny other men the agency and ability to make decisions, have characterThis is what you said the guy is doing in your post. Things like being lazy, flaky, or simply not that interested, even though other men claim they always are. My point was that on this sub when women complain about men treating them this way, the main response is to leave guys like this rather than sticking around trying to decipher why he's treating her like crap or with indifference. If a woman was being treated like this by a guy she thought was mid she would just leave and not even have a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 02:24 PM |
| – | In their victimblaming men deny other men the agency and ability to make decisions, have characterThe main argument you're going to hear on PPD isn't "if you were prettier he would..." it's to stop pining after men that clearly aren't interested in you. If a guy is putting in minimal effort and investment in you, he just doesn't like you. The end. Of course he has the agency to treat you better if he wanted to, he just doesn't want to. Leave that guy and find someone who does. You're overcomplicating something that's very simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Being a SAHM is idiotic for both the partners.Yeah, that's life. Having a kid often comes with sacrifices. One of the parents is either going to have to sacrifice time at work or time with their kid during their developmental years. Or both will sacrifice it and have some stranger raise their kid. Obviously, my personal opinion on the matter is that one of the parents who sired the child should be the ones raising said child. I think it makes more sense for the mom to do it because she can actually nurse her child, but again, just my person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 12:57 PM |
| 8 | Could it be that the manosphere and the Red Pill fuel MISANDRY?"Men ain't shit," "men only want one thing," "mansplaining" and plenty of other negative connotations spread by women against men have been in the mainstream long before RP started trending. So no, I wouldn't say RP is responsible for negative rhetoric that existed towards men before the group even formed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Giving a woman false signals to get laid is the male version of being friendzoneddo the men in these scenarios not also get companionship and friendship? Sexzoned women get sex out of the arrangement too, no? I agree with the rest of your statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings.They do mean that they want you to show your emotions in a regulated manner. And they expect the person to just instinctually know how regulated it needs to be. If they show too much she gets the ick and that's the end of the relationship essentially. Show too little and she constantly complains that he's not emotionally open enough. As usual, women expect men to be psychic and just know the right thing to do and when to do it at all times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 05:55 AM |
| 35 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menDoes it matter? I didn't vote for the guy but he's a byproduct of an ever growing group that is pushing back against the mainstream PC/progressive push. Not just Trump but the growth of manosphere content, guys like Andrew Tate, etc. It's all loosely related to the same problem. Ignoring the cause or calling these individuals assholes isn't going to make them go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 02:07 AM |
| – | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menIf a draft is reinstated, explain why only men would get drafted? How is that equal rights exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 11:57 PM |
| 29 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menYou realise that female interests need to be advanced to achieve equality, right? You realize it's 2026 and legally women have more rights than men, and both men & women have disadvantages nowadays, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 08:49 PM |
| 43 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menthe point is that behavior like that isn’t a clear dealbreaker culturally. That suggests the norms around this haven’t moved as much as people think. I think it's the opposite actually. I think people having so much woke/PC lecturing shoved down their throats has caused the pendulum to swing in the opposite direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 08:42 PM |
| 0 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.I wasn't even close friends with my now wife. I just met her through friends and was broke at the time so our date was a walk on the beach. Women make it real easy when they actually like the guy. For every guy they make jump through these arbitrary hoops, there are men they didn't make do any of that because they were very attracted to those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.That’s what determines my attraction and responsiveness. Are you doing the same things in return, or is this something just expected of men because they're men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 02:46 PM |
| -3 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.yes, a man that yearns is a man that earns. So pro gender roles then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 02:37 PM |
| -3 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.They all do, but it's nice to hear them admit it from time to time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Men that want to be seen as "hookup material" should only date women who hookup with themLying about your past to get into a relationship. Definitely is degenerate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 06:03 AM |
| 5 | Men are not protectors. Women are.the only people who have to ability to grow human life from their bodies, Last I checked they can't reproduce asexually. You need both men and women to make kids. to go die in a war started by rich men That's the logical conclusion to OPs argument. OP stated that true protection fight and die at war gaining nothing in return, then claimed women are the true protectors. Adding one plus one together here that would mean women should do just that based on OPs argument. Do you disagree with her stat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Men are not protectors. Women are.I like how you took an example I gave to show why we aren't all extremely bluntly honest and one vetting is necessary by using the job example and somehow found a way to make that an issue. I never said this is exactly the same as dating. The example was meant to highlight an everyday situation where most of us don't just say shit that works against our best interest, which is why vetting is necessary to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Men are not protectors. Women are.Imagine if everyone just told their jobs they took the role just for the money when asked what interested them in the position. It'll will never be that easy because we all work towards our best interest more often than not. The best interest of toxic individuals is probably not to go around announcing their toxic habits, assuming they are even self aware of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Men are not protectors. Women are.This is common sense for most guys, it's kind of up to you to not pair off with the men who don't get this. That's what vetting is for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 02:04 PM |
| 18 | Men are not protectors. Women are.This “protection” is not a value, not a principle, not even something they do for themselves. It’s a trade-off. Something they expect to be paid for with access to women and family life. Yeah, the majority of people don't want to risk their lives for nothing. They need something worth fighting for. Shocking, I know. And even with that, look at how much anger there is about the male draft...That is not what a protector looks like. Are you signed up for the draft? All women should sign up so they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 02:01 PM |
| – | When guys say women tend to go for jerks, what is the jerk behavior?Literally all the things women complain about when they finally get fed up and leave these dudes. "He's a narcissist," "he's egotistical," "he's emotionally manipulative," he's not emotionally available," ect ect. All the shit they only say after the fact regarding their "toxic" ex who they're on and off with, then proceed to chase the same type of guy at least a few more times for good measure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womenIt’s approximately 20% of men that leave their wives when they get cancer or something That stat you're providing is WAY off. It's around 20% of women who get a terminal disease have had a spouse divorce or separate from them. Not 20% of men total are leaving their sick wives. That's a monumental difference. But according to you this is a good deal for those men who left anyway. A lot of women are finally figuring this out They're figuring out how to misread stats in a way that supports their ow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womenbut usually becomes an issue with closer relationships as the older partner ages Real life isn't like the Notebook where we all die at the same time as our partners holding hands. That's not guaranteed even if you date someone your same age. Chances are someone is going to go first and their partner will be burdened during that period of time but again, that's just the nature or relationships. What you're counting as a downside could apply to literally anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 12:12 AM |
| 2 | The concept of gender roles is outdated and stupidOkay, but be consistent. Zero gender roles means zero expectation the guy pays on the date. If we hear a bump in the night and I got up the last time to check it out, you've got this one. If a confrontation breaks out when we're travelling, be ready to square up and throw hands right by my side. We're splitting the burden across the board. That's true zero gender role expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womenOnly thing I disagree with is this expectation that she should just leave instead of sticking to her vows. If you got cancer or were recovering from a bad accident, should the expectation be that your partner should leave you as staying by your side would inconvenience them at that point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womenselectively choosing a person who is much younger then you That person has to choose you back despite having options around their own age they could choose from. If/when that happens, clearly both individuals had a preference and met each other's preferences. Of course an age gap relationship can work if the intentions were not the age gap If one person likes to date down and another wants to date up, I don't see why that's an issue. They're both getting what they want in that situation and mayb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 06:11 PM |
| 0 | Being a SAHM is idiotic for both the partners.I think it makes more sense to have the mother stay home to take care of her own child(ren) instead of hiring some stranger to do it. However, I agree that after a certain point why they can go to school and are somewhat self sufficient, it no longer becomes necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 01:47 PM |
| 2 | If the myth that ince*s exist because they dont treat Women like humans would be true, every "bad guy" would be a in*el but its not true. Being a Good or bad Guy is irrelevant for dating success, accept it.The issue is incels glorifying sociopaths and narcissistic and manipulative men and seeing their success as a reason why they should become manipulative assholes They don't respect the behavior, they respect the fact that the CEO was able to get everything he wanted. If nice guys finish last, somebody has to finish first. It helps break men out of the blue pilled mindset that if they just focus on being nice/good eventually they will be appreciated for their virtue or values somewhere down the l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 12:54 AM |
| 4 | Men on here are contradictoryThere are billions of men on the planet. Some of us don't have to settle for baby mama, some of us with less options might have to settle for that. How is this a hard concept for you to grasp? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Men on here are contradictoryOkay? Then at best you can claim that of the guy who posted it but that doesn't connect with why you just assumed all men in that scenario would have that mindset. Sounds like you were applying Just World Fallacy here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 11:24 PM |
| 6 | Men on here are contradictoryAnd why is that exactly? There's literally no dialogue from the men in the background in the image. So how did you come to the conclusion that they must be misogynistic? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 09:09 PM |
| 4 | Men on here are contradictoryAnd what if they're not? What if they're all just normal decent men, what does that change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:58 PM |
| 5 | Men on here are contradictoryYou do realize not every guy on here is a black pilled incel. Some of us have options and don't have to settle for obese chicks or baby mamas. But obviously there are desperate men who will, doesn't make it a preference in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 08:54 PM |
| – | Why do you think women are hypergamous?I mean nature is different than society The difference is we created rules and have the ability to go against our instincts. The instincts still exist and not everyone chooses to go against those instincts. So, providing resources and sticking around isn't usually a genetic thing that males do. We made changes since the caveman nomadic days to form societies and increase our survival. Problem is, evolution takes time and not all base instincts that were developed disappear. For instance, they di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 04:10 PM |
| 8 | It isn't fair to think autistic men have it worse than autistic women in dating or any part of lifeBecause shockingly people prefer candid honesty over gaslighting and virtue signaling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 01:43 PM |
| 1 | It's better to be the mistress than the wifeThe wife essentially gets cheated on. Not a guarantee and guys get cheated on just as much. The wife has sacrificed so much for the family by having his kids, yet the man won’t even make the sacrifice of committing to her. You're realize not every guy cheats right? The mistress gets the positive attention and gifts, while the wife gets his bad moods and the housework. Again, not every guy is stepping out and "happy wife, happy life" used to be a common phrase for a reason. Plenty of guys do a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 09:02 PM |
| 0 | Age gap posts regarding “power imbalances” ignore that young women have (by lightyears) the most sexual power of any groupNone of that is power though. 😑 Privilege is truly invisible to those who have it... If a man is only after sex once he gets it he’s done. Key work here is "IF." Sure, if out of the countless options available to her in her prime she picks guys who just want sex and nothing else, then she loses. If only there was this thing called vetting women could use to filter for guys who give a shit about them...hmm. Sex is actually the biggest weakness in the “gender war” for women. It really isn't. They … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Age gap posts regarding “power imbalances” ignore that young women have (by lightyears) the most sexual power of any groupDepending on how hot the woman, anything from free drinks, free dinner, getting flown out by Drake, into clubs for free, possibly millions on OF, possibly a trophy wife who wealthy guys want and doesn't have to work, simps gassing you up constantly, the skies the limit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 08:08 PM |
| 1 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreYou might be on the spectrum bud because you've gone on a full schizo tirade twice now arguing against yourself essentially, because I definitely didn't say all that. But go off though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 08:03 PM |
| 7 | Women’s willingness to date older is a massive advantage when it comes to dating youngon average a 28 year old woman sends as more messages to a 25 year old man than a 32 year old man for example. 2-3 years is barely an age gap bro, the 25 and 28 year old are basically the same age group. You're avoiding the obvious point that a mid 30's woman is very unlikely to pursue a serious LTR with a 25 year old guy. I'd also argue that guys aren't adverse to dating up, they're just more likely to find younger women attractive but they're not straight up avoiding hot milfs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 07:35 PM |
| 1 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreLiterally married and quote me where it implies I'm mad in any way. I was just agreeing with OPs claim and explaining why. You're the one getting triggered about these facts for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womenyou stated a younger woman who wants to start a family will prefer an older man for his resources to do so, that is transactional This is what I said, "Unsurprisingly, there aren't many guys in their early 20's who want to want to jump right into marriage at that age..." It's mostly mindset, not just financial. Your average guy in his early 20's is focused on getting his life and career started. Most guys in their early 20's are not exactly trying to get married and have kids right away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.We are here to change the incel's opinion. In order to do that you need to be willing to have a discussion in good faith. Lilith straight up ignores any difference in opinion, even when other women disagree with her on a topic she still reposts it 5 times not having adjusted her stance even the slightest. If you know she has been making the same posts for years, you have been here. Why are you allowed here but she is not? Difference is I don't post here daily and definitely not the same top 5 ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.OP. She posts here practically every day about the same topics like this one over and over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:50 PM |
| 2 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreI’ve been the dirty little secret many times. Yeah, and I know women who were caught smashing behind their nice attentive boyfriends backs. How does any of this negate the fact that relationships where women believe they are dating up last longer than ones where they feel they're dating down? Women file for divorce more because we are usually the ones that usually do the paperwork in the relationship. Literally no evidence to support that claim but regardless OPs main point that relationships la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 03:51 PM |
| 2 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreStudies show that women do more emotional labor, more relationship maintenance, more domestic upkeep etc than men. Yeah, and they choose to do it when they believe they guy they're with is high value and worth the effort. Like I said earlier, they don't put in nearly as much effort when they feel the guy they're with is mid or they're dating down. Which leads to higher divorce rates because they're more willing to walk away from those relationships. Your argument is that men endure mediocrity. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 03:28 PM |
| 0 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreWhy would any human stick around if they feel like they settled? Key word here is "FEEL" like they settled. Pretty much any study shows that guys find a much wider range of women attractive, and men don't give as much of a shit if they're friends don't find a girl they think is attractive, attractive as well. All this plays into why relationships work better when women believe they are dating up, because even when guys do date down, they tend to not really care as much. Plenty of successful guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.Yeah, that doesn't excuse Lilith making the same posts daily for years. Not exactly the actions of someone who doesn't really care 🧐. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 02:19 PM |
| -3 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreBottom line is women are not content dating down. They know that, we know that, why pretend otherwise? They don't stick around if they feel like they settled. Only when they date up do they put actual effort and try to work on the relationship when things go wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 02:11 PM |
| 8 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreRisk of cheating also applies to the guy who loves his girl more. Just because she's deadbedrooming him doesn't mean she's not getting her cheeks clapped elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 01:43 PM |
| 1 | The best relationships are when the women likes him moreBecause women file 70% of divorces, that's why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womengetting married to start a family, not because you want to spend your whole life with a person, is transactional You're really desperate to put a negative spin on this. Marriage minded individuals tend to want to date other individuals of a similar mindset. Nobody said anything about them dating guys they don't kike to get a kid, you added that narrative yourself for some reason. And no, that was not the case. and ftr you can be attracted to someone and still have a transactional relationships C… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:45 AM |
| 5 | Men: would this be a dealbreaker for commitment?Tough one. I'd have a tough time believing she's been with rappers and athletes, yet didn't let a single one hit. But for the sake of this example, let's say it's true that I'm the only guy she let get that far. I'd give her a chance but I'd definitely be on high alert for red flags at the start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for womenIt's not always about that. The two women I know from college who both married guys about a decade older basically were in the mindset where they wanted to get married and start a family right out of college. Unsurprisingly, there aren't many guys in their early 20's who want to want to jump right into marriage at that age or are in a position to support a family at that age. So it makes more sense for women who want that to date up. Another thing we should ask ourselves is if we would jump to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 01:10 AM |
| 6 | Age gap relationships are a bad deal for women"Why do men want things that benefit them?" Better question is why shouldn't they? It's not like women don't often date in a similar manner. Sometimes what the man and woman want align and sometimes they don't. That's the compatibility factor. For the women dating up in age, no one is forcing them to do so. They have options and that's what they chose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Instead of generalizing an entire gender, just admit you have a type and you’re annoyed with your type’s flaws.The guys that smashed and passed that certain woman claim were narcissists that left them with trust issues and emotional trauma "enriched" their lives from a certain point of view I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Would you be a Single FatherThe man, legally, only has to pay child support if she pursues it. So only if she decides to place him into indentured servitude for two decades? Is this supposed to make men feel better about the situation? Otherwise he has every opportunity for the nine months she is pregnant to not be around for it. 9 months =/= 18 years. So, the pregnancy legally and always 100% falls onto the woman thus the trauma of any decision falls onto her soul and is her burden Clearly garnishing his wages for 18 year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 01:34 AM |
| 1 | The Reason why Men can act like sluts but Women can't is because of WomenHe also has quite a past that I don’t shame him for. Good for you? Did my comment imply anyone should be shamed for being promiscuous? Literally don't remember honestly, because I commented on this post months ago. Caring about body count is pretty loser behavior. Okay? My wife was originally a virgin when I met her, and over a decade later I'm still not regretting anything about that decision. Your opinion has been duly noted though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 12:04 AM |
| -1 | Would you be a Single FatherThe man had sex. I'm not getting into the weeds with you about why consent to sex isn't consent to parenthood. Bottom line is the woman in question has a choice to carry the child to term, the guy didn't have that same choice, so the scenarios are not the same. Most women who don't want to have the kid would not go through the pregnancy. Doesn't really make complete sense to go through the difficulty of a pregnancy and risk complications for a kid you already know you don't want. And in the past… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 09:16 PM |
| -2 | Would you be a Single FatherMen often don't want to take care of the kids they are responsible for Unless they had equal say in having the kid, they didn't ultimately make the decision to bring a kid into the world. So we're talking about two different things here. Obviously if it was up to the guy and he didn't want the kid, he would have preferred abortion was done, rather than follow through with a full pregnancy just to give the kid up and make it someone else's problem. For many women, abortion is illegal. Don't know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 06:53 PM |
| -2 | Would you be a Single FatherI don't know what would possess someone to make the decision to have a kid, yet not want to care for the kid. I wouldn't want to raise the kid alone so it might go to adoption, but maybe I would feel differently with the kid actually in my arms. Hard to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 06:10 PM |
| 3 | It's not women who share top percent of men, it's the other way aroundAlso, the rate of sexlessness for young women barely increased during the same timeframe while it doubled for men. So if a lot more men are not having sex, yet roughly the same amount of women are still having sex, putting 2&2 together, the logical conclusion would be that women are more increasingly having sex with a smaller group of men over time. Some sharing is definitely occurring (aka side chicks, situationships, baby mamas, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 06:05 PM |
| 3 | It's not women who share top percent of men, it's the other way aroundDon't know what source your looking at. Here's mine: https://ifstudies.org/blog/sexless-america-young-adults-are-having-less-sex https://nypost.com/2025/01/23/lifestyle/sexlessness-on-the-rise-in-america-young-men-lead-the-trend/ You can see that for young men in the current generation, the rate of sexlessness more than doubled, hitting almost 25% in just the last decade or so. So, no, most men are not consistently getting hookups. Especially during a time where women are self admitting that the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 05:58 PM |
| 3 | It's not women who share top percent of men, it's the other way aroundEventually. Look up the percentage of men that haven't had sex in the past year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 03:53 PM |
| 4 | Being attracted to someone vs being just friendly, how to recognize it as a man?Another example of why you don't seek advice from blue pillers or women. The answers are usually not helpful and are often not actionable either. Women just expect guys to know, they're not interested in dissecting their own attraction or teaching men "game." They assume this all just comes naturally to men. They don't want a peak into the kitchen to see how the food is made, they just expect perfection in the finished product. If it's flawed, then you're on your own when it comes to fixing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 02:04 AM |
| – | Reminder on what the blue pill is, since some of y'all have misconceptionssimply because it reflects the mainstream view about sex/relationships in western societies. This is a better description of it than "just not Red Pill." Taking from the idea of the Matrix, Blue Pill is the mainstream narrative like you said. Statements we all grew up hearing like "just be yourself" or "there's someone for everyone." Red Pill challenges this mainstream ideas. Anyone who takes two seconds thinking about it knows what Blue Pill narratives are common. This sub is just obsessed with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 12:25 AM |
| 4 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.Women are less hypergamous today than they were back in the 50s. Okay? They still are regardless. What guys here are really upset about is that women don’t feel obligated to marry a man out of necessity. Naw, they just want to be betabuxxes for women who accumulate trauma or become baby mamas for HVM they can't lockdown. Red Pillers aren't bitter about hypergamy, they learn to work around it. Black Pillers might be though. Hence, women can leverage for more things Again, who cares? None of this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 10:04 PM |
| 3 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.First thing that popped up searching the definition. "Hypergamy is the act or custom of marrying or dating a person of higher social, economic, or caste status." Says social status right in there bud. The definition didn't change, you just weren't knowledgeable on the full definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?(I guess money, hair, height & mental health?) are found only in the top 1% of men, ergo most women are hypergamous. Her point is that a much higher percentage of men possess these features, Okay, let's look at even just two of these traits, starting with money. The amount of money women are vocal about being desirable is six figures. Less than 20% of people in the USA make over six figures. Women are included in that number. Let's look at height. What height are most women very vocal about bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.Convicts in general have multiple times the fertility rates of average men. Similar effect of increased attention from women can be seen with even serial killers. Look up the interviews with women about Ted Bundy. Those women aren't from the hood and he got countless marriage proposals after being convicted, but we can continue to stick our heads in the sand and pretend there isn't a pattern here or that the effect is limited to only certain types of women from the trailer park. You'd be wrong b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.How does that make any sense? Of course it doesn't make sense if you just take that one phrase and don't actually listen to the lyrics of the song. I assumed you knew the song I was referring to but here are the lyrics if you need more evidence: "If your status ain't hood, I ain't checkin' for him. Betta be street if he lookin' at me, I need a soldier..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 05:34 PM |
| 6 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.Destiny's child literally wrote a whole ass song about just that. What kind of guy do you think they were talking about when they said "I need a soldier"? They meant a guy whose street aka a thug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 05:21 PM |
| 4 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.Hypergamy is about dating up, not just economically but status wise. You can have social status even if you're poor, so there's no contradiction, you just misunderstood hypergamy to only have to do with money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 05:19 PM |
| 8 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.Street cred is a form of social status. Also, some women see violence or aggression from a man, and translates that as masculine/protective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.You bought that? 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 03:41 PM |
| 8 | Guys don’t actually want women who actually want good men.But also saying they are always going for the worst men Because hypergamy is dating up in status or economically. Has nothing to do with morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers : Are You Aware Of The Various Contradictions Within BP?I got this from watching the actions of red pillers in their spaces. You got the understanding of a term by watching actions? Huh? Sometimes it's better to bow out and admit you didn't really know what you were talking about. This is like watching someone try to give a book report on a book they clearly didn't read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers : Are You Aware Of The Various Contradictions Within BP?Sometimes it's better to just admit you don't know what your talking about rather than RP points you likely heard through feminist rage bait on TikTok like you're the expert on the matter. The only individuals who take AWALT literally are women and Blue Pillers who aren't even involved in the community enough to understand the full context of the terms they're parroting. That term was never meant to be taken literally. It started mostly as a joke because so many stories from guys would include w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 01:09 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?Better question is why you think it matters whether we're talking about the top 1%, 5%, or 20% of men? The overall point remains the same. Only reason I chose 20% is because it's easier to come up with examples off the top of my head. Maybe some of the guys I brought up are also in the top 1% but I don't see why it's necessary to get into the weeds about it. Feel free to prove me or the other guy wrong at any point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 10:27 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?I'm not the same guy you were talking to earlier if you didn't notice. I never made the 1% claim. Think about that for just a moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?If we're saying top 20% it's Future, practically any well known rapper, almost any professional football or basketball player, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tiger Woods, etc. Why pretend like you don't know? Literally any men you can think of who go through lots of women, have mistresses or multiple baby mamas. What most of those men have in common is your answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?Explain how it's still residual 2+ generations later? Your argument would make sense if this was learned behavior from their mothers or grandmothers, but almost nobody from the generation where women didn't hold jobs and had to rely on men is alive anymore. Vast majority of young Western women today didn't learn about any of that first hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 07:57 PM |
| 5 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?Stop making excuses for women bud. Most Western women have not been dependent on men for at least the last 2 generations now. Millennials and younger never grew up in that environment, so you can't say they were conditioned to date up by society or something like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 06:13 PM |
| 9 | Why do you think women are hypergamous?"Hypergamy is the act or practice of marrying or dating a partner of higher social, economic, or educational status, often colloquially referred to as "marrying up"." It's not a coincidence that men of the highest social or economic status end up with the most women. And women have dated up much more often than men throughout history for the most part. Rarely do they ever date down because they have multiple times more options than your average guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Dating as an average guy is like being a solo founder trying to launch a startup against TikTokYou're talking about men with options, OP is mentioning men who haven't had sex in the past year and how that number has doubled in the past decade. I don't think you and OP are talking about the same men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Men don't want the average womenwhen every man wants a 20-year-old. More goes into a relationship than just being hot. Yeah, lots of guys will want to sleep with a chick in her mid 20's, a dude at 50 isn't necessarily going to want to seriously date a woman at that age. Maturity levels and life experience could be drastically different and that plays into wanting a ltr with someone or not. So those 20yr old guys also have to compete with older men. Your average older guy isn't pulling women in their 20's. At most, your average… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 02:41 PM |
| 0 | Men don't want the average womenBeing overweight isn't an attractive trait in general, regardless of gender. Saying women in their physical prime are hotter =/= saying every woman over 30 is ugly. The female ego needs to become less fragile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/26 02:25 PM |
| 3 | Women generally have it harder than men.You can literally find plenty of examples all over social media of fat chicks not only having boyfriends but often having buff/gym bro boyfriends as well. Even on this sub fat chicks getting guys you would assume would be above their level is a topic discussed often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 05:43 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The “grass is greener” effect is much stronger for women in dating than menhe said beauty and vibes are enough. Vibes aren't a form of connection? Then why do women go on and on about how the vibes need to be right? Sounds like it's important. His point was that there are these things called preferences and deal breakers. Men treat their preferences like actual preferences, things they prefer but they're usually pretty flexible about them. Physical attraction and how well you vibe (get along) with a person aren't really flexible. You have to be physically attracted to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 04:26 PM |
| 4 | Women generally have it harder than men.And yet plenty of fat chicks get laid and have boyfriends, so you can't even claim the majority of men think so negatively about them. If that were actually true then they wouldn't get any play or get into relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 02:17 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The “grass is greener” effect is much stronger for women in dating than menlollll also this is not the positive you're framing it as. Being extremely picky and superficial isn't exactly a virtue. hey, everyone guys don't need a real connection Not even what the guy said. Purposely twisting his words to try and make having reasonable standards seem like a negative isn't a good look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 01:53 PM |
| 3 | No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxiousthen “men as providers” hasn’t disappeared Yeah, because hypergamy still exists. So long as men with nice cars, high status careers, and ample resources continue to get the most women, men will continue to be incentived to get more of those things to get more women. Reinforcing the roles all over again. Nobody is holding a gun to women's heads forcing them to flock around rich men, famous men, doctors, or athletes. They choose to do that of their own volition. Same as expectations that men shoul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative womenElderly people are more at risk for errors and hence should be discriminated against when looking for a job. Some jobs do in fact have age or physical requirements like joining the military or being a fighter jet pilot in the Air Force. That's not just random discrimination. Tons of companies and people do risk mitigation in various ways and it makes sense to most. Well first of all, the gravity of getting mugged, raped, or murdered isn't the same as getting cheated on. So this is comparing appl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 05:33 PM |
| 1 | If women treated men like men treat women we would love it.Morality doesn't get you pussy. This is a sub with a lot of Red Pillers and Black Pillers. Most have already figured that out despite the gaslighting about how Billy Bob the neighborhood niceguy(TM) is beating them off with a stick because of how friendly he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative womenhow we treat the uneducated, the poor, the old, the ill, women What does any of that have to do with risk mitigation, which is what we're actually discussing? How you treat grandma doesn't have much to do with high risk scenarios like whether or not you should lend your recovering drug addict sibling money, knowing they might spend it all on drugs. There's a clear risk involved with the later choice. I don't see how that correlates with how you should elderly or women in general. You're forcing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 04:56 PM |
| 2 | No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxiousIsn’t “men are providers” a core pillar of red pill ideology? Not for the reasons you think. Women still vet men on the ability to provide is Western society, which is why you still see evidence of them stating off financial requirements like a guy needing to make six figures or judging a guy based on his title or career. Money and status are things women vet for, not men. These things are mentioned in RP as what men should accumulate to increase their options of women. RP is not synonymous with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 03:54 PM |
| 0 | No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxiousI think career focused women tend to have a lot of masculine traits because you don't exactly rise in the corporate world by being agreeable. So it's not exactly that being career focused makes a woman masculine, but there's a strong correlation with career focused women having masculine traits. It's those masculine traits that are really repelling men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 03:22 PM |
| 3 | No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxiousI have also been told that men expect me to quit my job the minute I become exclusive with them Don't know what kind of guys you date but most guys are not trad and work beside women, so clearly the opinion isn't wide spread. Also, most of us grew up with moms who worked so how could women not working be the general expectation? Makes no sense. Yeah some guys think like that, but guaranteed they are the minority in Western civilization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative womenYou being alright with taking an increased risk of your own volition doesn't make others wrong for wanting to avoid riskier situations. Some people pick up hitch hikers, some don't. There's no objectively correct answer, only whether you can live with the consequences if you take a risk that doesn't pan out in your favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Men often don’t really know what they’re attracted toI love how you equate “pleasant” with “submissive”. And why shouldn't I equate those things? Submissive as it's used in the manosphere is used interchangeably with being agreeable. This is why I brought up Margaery Tyrell as an example, because a lot of women on here don't get that for some reason, or simply choose not to get it. Margaery challenges people but she doesn't raise her voice or directly challenge them. The gets the men around her to do what she wants by being feminine, offering sugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative womenPeople more likely to cheat tend to be more promiscuous. The distinction doesn't matter because the end result is the same. Which is that people who don't want an increased risk of being cheated on should avoid promiscuous individuals. You're arguing whether the chicken or egg came first, as if that changes anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative womenSo? Having daddy issues and being unnecessarily defiant towards your parents like your a teenager or some shit is not a selling point bud. You're ironically making a case to not date these women lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Men often don’t really know what they’re attracted toIt’s the same as men thinking they have to be hypermasculine to attract women. You think a tall, confident, hypermasculine man isn't going to do extremely well in the dating market? Just like a young, beautiful, and feminine woman, this type of guy is generally highly sought after in the dating market. But individuals with all the most desirable traits are above average. Most people are average, which is the have to settle on one thing or another, or compensate for the things they lack. Like you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:20 PM |
| 2 | Men often don’t really know what they’re attracted toYou say that like a woman being beautiful and feminine is some sort of pipe dream. Obviously they exist but they're the most desired women of course, the ones I've met like that are pretty much always taken and were engaged/married in their 20's. As such, your average guy will settle and date masculine, combative women, or those with BPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Men often don’t really know what they’re attracted toAgreeable, kind, provides emotional support. Those are traits people generally think of when they think a traditionally feminine woman. Think Margaery Tyrell from game of thrones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 12:32 PM |
| 1 | "Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't youProblem is, you got to find them young. It'll be mission impossible if you're looking for a classy, beautiful, empathetic woman at age 30+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:18 AM |
| 22 | If women treated men like men treat women we would love it.He's not arguing that you don't experience it, he's arguing that the vast majority of men you pass everyday around harassing you. How could that be true but then we're also told that the majority of men nowadays are too afraid to approach women. The majority of men are both not approaching but also somehow the majority are also sexual deviants constantly harassing women? The math isn't mathing. Both things can't be true at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 07:05 PM |
| 1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”The men I've liked the most have been the longest until sex. This is literally the point everyone has been arguing against but you keep claiming they completely misread your statement. You went out of your way to point out that there's some correlation between you really liking a guy and there being a prolonged period before sex. Then you proceed to point out that guys you don't like were quick booty calls. How else are these statements expected to be interpreted other than: Quick hookup = "I do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 03:28 PM |
| 1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Then what's your argument? You keep claiming everyone is getting it wrong, so set the record straight then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 03:02 PM |
| 1 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”John and Micheal are both good guys, both are trusted. I thought your argument before was that the guy getting it right away meant nothing compared to the guy being delayed. Now you're arguing that both individuals are equal? Interesting. 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:56 PM |
| 2 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”Lol. I love how y'all twist and move the goal posts. How was the goal post moved exactly? I just took the scenario the last guy presented and applied your logic to it. Also the comparison that sex is like a promotion is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You can replace the scenario with anything two individuals might want and it's not going to change anything really. You're argument is that delaying giving it to the person you favor is supposed to show that you favor them more than the person y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:52 PM |
| 6 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”"Hey John, you did such a great job that I'm holding off on your promotion for a few months. I gave Michael a promotion and raise right away because he was just there." Somehow, Micheal in this situation is supposed to feel like he's valued more than John. And women are somehow surprised when men don't see it that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:12 AM |
| – | Why are so many men here proponents of cold approach?Because there's not nearly as much competition for cold approaching and women get dissolutioned by the apps since the majority of men they fancy on their just want to hook up. You're average guy has much better odds shooting their shot in person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 09:24 PM |
| 4 | High value men mostly end up with high value womenSame to you. Which is why I'm talking about things that are generally true that most of us have observed, not just subjective opinions that might go against the grain. , Leo is a low value loser. Thanks for proving my point lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 05:14 PM |
| 4 | High value men mostly end up with high value womenPlenty of men whose primary trait isn't being nice and are often even called players or narcissists who still get plenty of women. So objective reality proves that a significant amount of women don't prioritize a guy being nice so much that it affects who they'll hook up with or date. Your subjective vetting process doesn't negate actual results observable in reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 05:08 PM |
| 5 | High value men mostly end up with high value womenWomen prioritize a man who is nice. Women are not tripping over themselves to get with mid looking average salary nice guys. They prioritize other traits above that first. Which is why so many women self admit to "accidentally" dating narcissists or emotionally unavailable men. Plenty of women on this sub openly admit that if a guy's only redeeming quality is being nice, they're not attracted to that alone. By that same regard, men are not tripping over themselves to date plain looking engineers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 05:05 PM |
| 4 | High value men mostly end up with high value womenIt sounds like some men don't value women's careers. Not more than other things we care about. Let me put it this way, men prioritize a woman's career when looking for a partner about as much as women prioritize a man being nice. Take that as you will. I wouldn't consider those men high value. Your subjective opinion on what makes a guy high value isn't the determining factor, it's their results. Would be the equivalent of me saying a woman is only high value if she makes me a sandwich every day… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 04:48 PM |
| 4 | High value men mostly end up with high value womenWhat do you think makes a woman high value and why would a woman working at Starbucks not qualify? What makes a woman high value to men is usually not the same as what makes a man high value to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Women don't owe men "sexual equality"I've heard of it before but it's a rare phenomenon usually. Are you trying to say that women themselves are suffering from some form of Madonna-Whore complex with the men they date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 12:23 PM |
| 2 | Women don't owe men "sexual equality"Sure, but again, how would this be a positive for the guy she ends up with vs the guy she was willing to experiment sexually with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 12:18 PM |
| 4 | Men should date conservative women instead of wasting their time online arguing with self-proclaimed liberal womenYou stated it like it's an objective fact that every conservative is trad. Conservatives are not synonymous with trad. Vast majority of households are two incomes. Trad household with one primary breadwinner and a housewife are a small minority. So it's kind of an important distinction because there are a lot of conservatives but there's not that many trad relationships in the West at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Men should date conservative women instead of wasting their time online arguing with self-proclaimed liberal womenFunny seeing Blue Pillers are counting syphoning a guy's wealth as a benefit of marriage. Especially considering how many women here argue that women don't need men cause they're making their own bread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Men should date conservative women instead of wasting their time online arguing with self-proclaimed liberal womenNot all conservative women are trad, just FYI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 12:12 AM |
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