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Honestly I recommend TRT to all men pretty much after 30. That's just a ballpark age. It's not like men hit 30 and lose their T, that's just the age it starts dropping every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:07 AM
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Simply where you source the date. I'm going to start a relationship with a relationship minded person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:48 AM
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Does whether you meet a woman on a dating app or in person affect how seriously you take her? If I were actively dating today, sure it would. All things being equal, do you hold women you meet IRL in higher esteem? Probably initially unless its a bar/club setting. Not really my scene though. Even after getting to know a woman you met online, are you more likely to consider a woman you met in person for a serious relationship/marriage? It might depend on the app. I'm not going to use Tinder stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:25 PM
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This is what I'm talking about though. You're speaking specifically about feelings of insecurity without regard to whether or not someone is literally secure in their position/relationship or not. If a guy has a standard or a boundary that you think is irrational, but he's outcome independent and will stick to his guns, and even leave the relationship, he is literally secure. He feels safe whether the relationship ends or not. But many women would call him insecure without regard to the meaning …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:37 PM
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My wife cooks for me. Actually wasn't that great when we got married, but she improved significantly over the years and does around 100% of the cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:44 PM
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People need to realize there's a difference between "feeling insecure" and actually being insecure in your position in the relationship. Women have a tendency to just label boundaries insecure without considering the meaning behind the word they're using.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:33 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:34 AM
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Their expectations would be had based on what she looks like in clothes, which are designed to make her body look better than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:32 AM
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80%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:29 AM
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Or dominatrix
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:27 PM
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the thing about dating someone is that when she’s treating you well, you never stop to think “those other mother fuckers never got this shit.” and maybe you ought to, at least occasionally. Is a high N-count woman treating you better than a low N-count woman? If not, you don't make a convincing case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:56 PM
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Do you have the same amount of sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:31 PM
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Here's what women don't understand and I think Jonathan Haidt describes it, though not explicitly, in The Righteous Mind. Specifically, when talking about disgust. You can't really control your disgust response. He details a scenario where people in an experiment are offered the opportunity to take a drink of water, that the researchers dipped a cockroach in. They're testing the power of disgust. These people are guaranteed that the roach was bred in a lab, is 100% sterile, and is carrying no di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:45 AM
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It's not overrated. If it's marriage, v-card. If it's just sex, sure virgins won't be as good. Frankly, sluts are overrated at sex if we keep it a stack. Most these thots are giving basic ass sex no matter how many bodies they've had. Generally speaking, quality guys when it comes to relationships have no issues whatsoever assuming a coaching role during sex. And it goes without saying that nearly every study on the topic for the past 7 decades has concluded that promiscuous women are less likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:35 AM
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You're a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:20 AM
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Sure but saying this to your friends is not only lacking in tact and propriety, it's never going to work. Not unless they've already come to that conclusion themselves, but then they wouldn't be blinded by infatuation in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:50 PM
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Countless? No you haven't. Certainly not to their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:47 PM
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That's certainly a reason. Not sure it's a convincing one. Requires the man to take a rather infantile view of women tbh. They can't decide for themselves whether casual sex is a good idea on their own, so the secular guy has to decline pleasure to protect the naive women from themselves. But now that just adds another question about why a secular guy would even care about a hookup's future feelings. It's so detached from being his business. Nonetheless, I suppose that's as good a reason as any.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:33 PM
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I honestly don't know what the incentive would be for a secular attractive man to forsake casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:07 PM
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Even in our community, some people buy into the culture and start valuing beauty/handsomeness or wealth above everything. I don't think we disagree. What you are describing is vanity, pride, and greed, and I'm not into vanity. I've always found it very odd to see Muslim women wearing a Hijab with yoga pants, for example. It just comes off as using Islam as a fashion statement. I agree that beauty isn't everything. But it's still very important. "Oh it's okay if she's ugly because she's pious," i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:41 PM
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It's because the women know they're supposed to hate him. Women can't be aroused by men they hate. Or at least, they are forbidden to admit it by the deference to the sisterhood
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:18 AM
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I didn't say most women are in their 20s. A Muslim values piety and religiosity in a partner above anything else, including beauty. It is good to find your partner attractive as well, but we "care more" for piety Stop pretending that Muslim men are above visual stimuli. I care about my wife's piety as well. But it's objectively impious to let yourself become ugly. It's undignified to say nothing of being signs of both laziness and gluttony.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:19 AM
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Most men are not the type of men most women want... no qualifiers needed whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:18 PM
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Actually in california they decriminalized men having intercourse with underage boys because homophobia or some such nonsense.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 03:09 PM
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If they're religious and make the conscious effort to be around religious women and care more for their beliefs and values rather than their beauty, then yes. Do you think most women in their 20s, in the west, are religious or secular? Further, do you not value beauty? How is staying beautiful not consistent with your values? I fail to see why you have to choose between your faith and your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:41 PM
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I can't speak to this. If any of the teachers at my old school were drunk on the premises at all they'd be out on their ass.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 02:34 PM
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I spend an embarrassing amount of time on r/relationship_advice and other relationship subs. I have never seen any posts along these lines. Some regarding cheating, but not promiscuity alone. Can you provide an example? I mean I really don't feel like searching through a sub right now. But off the top of my head three scenarios from RA. First, dude knew his girl had a bit of a hoe phase and decided to "look past her past." because he got around a bit too. Beginning of pandemic, there was a "face…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:25 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:30 AM
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I promise you, your husband would replace your sexual past with that of a non-slut if he could. But I'm sincerely happy for you. I don't know why you women get so worked up about hearing truth. So much denial. Do you honestly think your husband would be honest with you if he did have a problem with your sexual past? Look at how you'd respond. You'd simply shame the fuck out of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:17 AM
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The thing is, that I’ve seen stories of a 23M and a 18F and people say that the man groomed the woman and that it’s creepy. Yeah... but those people are dumb. However, when it’s the other way around, it’s seen as acceptable. Well I mean I don't consider teacher/student relationships ever acceptable, per se. I'm not one of these age gap nazis. And the stories with a 23M and 18F didn’t even have the power dynamic of Teacher/Student, yet it was still seen as worse. This. This right here, IMO, is a …
/r/MensRights08/02/22 12:47 AM
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Humiliation how? Unless you're in a rural area or it's an extreme case where she has a three-plus digit N-count, casual sex is generally pretty anonymous. These days, people looking to hook up usually fuck strangers with no mutual friends from apps. Your family and friends probably wouldn't know. You wouldn't know unless she tells you. So I think any humiliation you'd feel as a response to this is more about you than any public perception of your worth or her worth. Head on over to /r/relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:42 AM
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I don't care what the mob thinks and I wouldn't call for anything other than a job loss in either case.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 12:32 AM
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Do you honestly believe most women today in their 20s are prepared to actually put the wants and needs of another human being before themselves? I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:30 AM
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Keep fighting against reality sunshine. Your cats will love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:27 AM
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Primarily, the risk. Men would rather have a woman with a low N-count than a woman with a high N-count. He has less competition for being her sexual best, less likelihood of having a personality disorder, higher likelihood of lasting marriage, lower risk of infidelity, and you don't have to deal with the humiliation of locking down the town bicycle. If she is the bicycle, the simple fact is that you don't know what she's done, and at 40 partners, you don't want to know because it will just make …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:01 PM
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Okay now we're going a little hard here. Yeah she's way in the wrong, and she sounds like a sad woman. But 23 y/o woman has sex with 18 y/o man doesn't really get under my skin the same way some of the other stories do. Sad woman does sad woman things and seeks validation through sex. Not exactly 'man bites dog,' but a sad reflection of the modern woman nonetheless.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 08:33 PM
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You don't turn a hoe into a housewife. Like I said, it's okay to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:25 PM
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Lack of money: Average man made $57,456 a year, so half of men are right here or make less I'm just going to point out here that, if memory serves me right, the average income is quite a bit higher than the median income.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:54 PM
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Yes, he did. You are simply wrong about how you're applying these terms. Just because he didn't consult a peer-reviewed anthropological study doesn't mean he didn't use logic. He's not writing a persuasive essay for his college English professor where the objective is "appeal to logos."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:41 PM
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Fair enough. But it squares with your personal experience because it's scientific. Psychological research into personality, studies in male v. female babies, economic outcomes in the labor market, etc. confirms the notion that women trend more empathetic than men. That doesn't mean men are unempathetic. And to be fair to the OP, who's post I'm slamming, there is something to be said against the modern woman's ability to sympathize with the male experience. Generally speaking, women can't underst…
/r/MensRights07/02/22 06:38 PM
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Just to recap, you told the other user he was illogical after he adapted his strategy from a losing one to a winning one. That's actually a logical thing to do, but you claimed it was illogical. That's not my strategy, and his strategy would work for me if I had the same goals. The universality of a strategy says nothing about it's logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:31 PM
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Consider why you come after the guy being sarcastic instead of the guy actually shaming socially awkward kids. Might give you insight into why I find you annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:23 PM
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Calling it like I see it isn't defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:19 PM
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In reality, I would next both. BUT... in the name of being true to the poll, I would choose the high N-count. Depends on what you mean by "date" though. I wouldn't mind dating either casually. But if we're talking about long-term, or having kids, that's my answer. But they're both unmarriageable IMO. And that's okay. Most women aren't cut out for marriage, and shouldn't feel bad about that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:14 PM
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Depends on how you define "vastly." Women are naturally more empathetic than men on average. To disagree, you might as well argue for young-earth creationism.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 05:23 PM
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I have been married for almost 10 years, together for 12. 5 y/o son. I work, she stays at home. We homeschool. I have an awesome marriage. Part of that is because we both understand things like duty and obligation, and find meaning in the fact that our family is something bigger than ourselves. We aren't worried about "happiness," but meaning. Most people getting married today are simply too selfish to put another person before themselves. And yes, unfortunately that is mostly the woman's fault.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:22 PM
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Well it's perfectly logical. It started with early PUA, which blew up specifically because what they were spreading was tried, true, and field tested by thousands of men regularly. Now, obviously a lot of that early shit is dated. But it was born out of logic, not hurt. It grew because it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:15 PM
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Perhaps they do have issues with their mothers. Comes from the highest rates of single mothers we've ever seen. But don't act like women are spared the damage of having absent/weak fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:13 PM
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Adapting to your environment is logical, despite your blathering to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:11 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:10 PM
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Well first, there's no way you could tell because I can guarantee you don't even know what "RP stuff" looks like. Do we agree on all things? Does he treat me right? The latter question is far more important. Here's why: You undoubtedly couldn't define or describe the praxeology in a way they would sign off on You likely conflate it with incel/blackpill/doomer/MGTOW content, epsecially if your only exposure is reddit. It all gets blended together on this platform so the distinctions are honestly …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:03 PM
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Never been a shortage of white knights.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 07:59 PM
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No. There is a gender pay gap because everyone makes more than mothers, teachers, and social workers.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 05:07 PM
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TLDW
/r/MensRights06/02/22 04:43 PM
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Doesn't invalidate what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:24 PM
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Yes. Turns out most women don't actually want househusbands. Who could have predicted this?
/r/MensRights06/02/22 04:15 PM
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Me: If you remove mothers then women earn more You: cites data that doesn't remove mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:06 PM
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Doesn't invalidate what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:39 PM
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Literally every human has an in-group bias so I don't know what you're talking about here tbh
/r/MensRights06/02/22 03:36 PM
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The research around status leakage (breadwinning wives experience this), and the "halo effect" as it pertains to the positive assumptions we have about attractive people. The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt Big 5 personality distribution Dataclysm
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:29 PM
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Most want the benefits of a traditional life just like I want the benefits of passive income. Not gonna get their without investing in that outcome, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:19 PM
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No. Everyone makes more than mothers. But single, 20-29, women earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:59 PM
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I agree that it's sad but I believe the future is bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:22 AM
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Women will bifurcate into two branches: Women who want to be with men and wine aunts. Also, women are already outearning men in the relevant demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:19 AM
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It's literally both. And it's not just the height of the standards. It's that most women today simply aren't wife material. A generation of feminizing men and masculinizing women will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:13 AM
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Society doesn't owe you: order, not murdering your family members, human decency, job, shelter, laws or protection. Idk what you're trying to prove here but this is a 100% accurate statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:03 AM
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It's vague like most female advice. Men who give advice will advise you on how to make conversation, how to read the reaction, and how to say hi like a human being. The point is that women just kind of expect men to "get it." To one degree or another, and men who don't "get it" are seen as defective if we're keeping it a stack. This is why so many men say never to ask women for advice. At best, they give you advice that's technically correct, but can't be used in a meaningful way because it's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:02 PM
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They're saying the quiet part out loud. See, in polite conversation, women will vehemently deny wanting a man who earns more than them, They will insist that money doesn't matter. There's a saying: Let a woman talk long enough and she'll tell on herself. The same women who say money doesn't matter, just ask them what they want their marriage to look like. They will outline a lifestyle that implies a tax bracket.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 04:39 PM
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No. You put your head down and get the grade. Pay attention and dismiss nothing. Your goal should be making their arguments better than they can make them, and thus being better suited to argue against them.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 03:16 PM
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No, they are the beneficiaries of male thirst. By all available data, the benefit you get from being a pretty woman far outweighs the minor inconvenience of rejecting unattractive men, or getting called a name after a bad rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:52 PM
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Thanks. People no likey reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:49 PM
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I'm not friends with chicks, let alone exes. I have a wife and no shortage of female relatives. That's enough feminine energy for me lol. But on the exes, fuck that. It's just fucking awkward, to say nothing of the increased likelihood of boundaries being crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:10 PM
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You are correct. It's actually refreshing to see a legit HVM (at the very least, you are a HENRY, according to KS), offer an honest perspective as opposed to a bunch of bored teenagers bemoaning their Tinder woes. Question: How many of the women you are dating have you met on Tinder/Hinge/Bumbe/etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:25 PM
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And how do you define equality? I define it how it's defined. It's you guys that are switching up the definition to fit your worldview. The simple fact is that what you are describing as equality isn't equality. You have to skip a few steps to say "We both have a say, therefore we are equal." You can pretend that each partner's perspective is given equal consideration with every major decision. "Hey babe, I know you're a financial noob, but I'd like your perspective on where we should invest 20%…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:38 PM
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I'm apparently the only one who understands that there's no way to define it where it manifests itself in reality. What I'm doing, is pointing out that there's a common misconception about equality in relationships, and the best response you got is "Well, you know what she means." As if that's not a stupid thing to say. Yeah I do. She means equal power, which is exactly what I'm speaking to. It's a fairly tale. Stop lying to yourselves and hurting young men and women in relationships with your e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:58 PM
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"Is your brain mush" says the person who thinks pointing out that Pareto distribution exists is some kind of "checkmate."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:55 PM
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purposely misunderstanding them to start an argument It's a debate sub, go away if arguments rustle your jimmies. And If I drive a truck and say I drive a sedan, you should just know what I mean, dawg. the point (two people in a relationship should have equal amounts of power) went right past you Two people in a relationship do not have equal amounts of power, no matter how much blathering you do to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:52 PM
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Sure. You said a sentence, and then said "that's equality." I said a sentence, and then said "that's equality." Alternatively, you could have said: "Men and women can absolutely be pickle juice overall, while taking the lead on different things in the relationship and discussing big decisions together and coming to a mutually agreed upon position. That’s pickle juice." "Equality" has nothing to do with discussing big decisions together. Also, "pickle juice" has nothing to do with discussing big …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:28 PM
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Words are important and I don't want stupid people spreading fairy tale ideas to impressionable young people, such as "equality."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:24 PM
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He didn't say he was ripped or super good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:14 PM
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You all seem to think this "messaging" reply is of any relevance to the point being made. Meanwhile I'm wondering why you guys think such a non sequitur is an own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:13 PM
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Might as well say: "Pickles make my urine taste yummy. That's equality." You'd be just as correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:16 PM
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"When people say equal they mean something that has nothing to do with equality so actually they're right even though they're wrong."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:09 PM
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Thank you for the correction. Yes I'm referring to complementing one another, not giving each other compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:06 PM
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So in your neighborhood, you don't have to worry about intruders, just getting shot. How do these people flock to this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:14 PM
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That's a huge dodge. Must be nice to live such a sheltered life that you don't have to worry about bad things happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:06 PM
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I'll settle for any logical definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:51 PM
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Can't make this shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:50 PM
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Unfortunately, women living in the hood are more susceptible to deluded feminist premises, which is why they have terrible relationship outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:49 PM
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I would say equality specifically in the sense of a relationship is having the same expectations for both people. Uh huh. So intruder breaks in, you are going to tell your man "It's okay honey, you hide, I got this." "We split the housework so we're equal 🤷‍♀️" -AWFL Logic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:36 PM
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What do you think equality means?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:22 PM
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People in a relationship can be pretty close to equal, though Okay, but so what? Why lie to ourselves and others? To make women feel better? People are perfectly comfortable talking about the fragile male ego, yet I'm expected to entertain a lie, because it's close enough to being true sometimes? How about we just say "complementary" instead of "equal" since it's literally true. EDIT: Typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:19 PM
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Me and my partner are equals No two people anywhere are equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:48 PM
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This is akin to extremely average or downright unattractive men complaining that they don’t have constant hookups or women throwing themselves at them and how he will never generate visceral attraction in women the way chad does. He will never have his pick of the litter. This is just a deliberate misrepresentation of men. Very womanly attack tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:28 PM
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And as for needing or not needing the vibrator, I've never needed to use one to get her off in bed either, but it is something I've heard and read from several women's accounts. So, grain of salt I guess I'm always skeptical of these claims, too. My thoughts are that almost none of these women need a vibrator. What they need is stimulation that doesn't require them coaching or thinking, which a vibrator gives them. Women can guide a vibrator just fine, but having to guide an actual man can make …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:30 AM
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Sure you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:54 PM
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Not according to me. Hire slow, fire them bitches fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:04 PM
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I mean, you're not necessarily there all the time. Like if you're out of town and she's alone and horny: vibrator. I care less about a vibrator than a dildo, but I don't like either being a replacement for sex. If she's going to masturbate, I'd prefer she use her hands. Hell, I don't mind using vibrators during sex since theoretically it makes my job easier. But I'm one of the lucky guys with a wife who can get off from penetration alone. That being said, I still enjoy working her up in differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:03 PM
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What is considered dead? And what percentage of men let themselves go physically? I think 50% is too high personally. But I honestly don't know that's just a guess. People like to place blame on women for the dead bedrooms. Not me. Dudes need to lead. What happens is guys get stagnant, lose frame, lose muscles, give in on boundaries, lose respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:10 PM
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Buddha? Who cares what that boomer has to say? I just looked and he doesn't even have an IG so he's just some nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:01 PM
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Women fuck patriarchs so...
/r/MensRights31/01/22 09:37 PM
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Kinda, yeah. Sex is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:25 PM
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I don’t think women even like sex that much for the male androids to sell that much Like Playgirl magazines, they will sell predominately to gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:20 PM
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I would. She doesn't need to fuck herself with a dildo when she's got the real thing in bed with her. And if she has the desire to feel a different dick inside of her, that's fine. But she's going to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:16 PM
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Most people are indeed bluepilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:04 PM
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I agree with you and I don't mind the bald look, either. Bald is far better than balding. That being said, minoxidil+microneedling has substantial effects on balding. I only know about Minox+microneedling, but a lot of people go Minox+microneedling+finasteride with positive results as well. And I'm talking great results. Typically, hair loss products will have a marginal impact on hair loss, and instead are mostly good for preservation. Individually, minoxidil and micro needling work okay to thi…
/r/MensRights31/01/22 09:02 PM
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Yes because augmented reality, which I expect to be fully operational and accessible within two years, will offer men the opportunity to feel like they're living like a king in the SMP. If the sensation of sex is made to feel identical to a real woman, then women are going to have a bad time. Even guys who actually have game and access to women will still think to themselves, "Well, dinner costs money and I still might not get laid. Would I rather take her out, or would I rather have a threesome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:54 PM
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The cringiest part of these replies isn't even the lack of awareness of the No Fap movement. What's truly cringe is the number of people who literally see no benefit of abstaining from a pleasurable activity. These dumbos freely admit that they don't know why people do it, and still call it dumb because it's denying superficial pleasure. Social media generation in a nutshell. This isn't a new practice people. "No Fap" has existed in one form or another across cultures for 1000s of years. Might b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:44 PM
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You can literally turn off your DMs if you don't want DMs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:35 PM
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"I don't get it therefore pointless and dumb" Yup, bluepill in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:31 PM
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Edit, when you use the term pump and dump, the guy usually has told the woman he wants a relationship and the minute he gets his leg over he completely loses interest. Usually? Bullshit. Guys don't come out and wear a sign saying "Hey I'm a fuckboi," so y'all think that means he must want a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:28 AM
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She's the only one who exists, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:25 AM
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Yup. Just let them talk. They will tell on themselves eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:23 AM
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A lot of guys on here claim that if most men in relationships knew that their girlfriends don't find them as hot as the football quarterback they had a one-night-stand with 4 years ago, they would freak out and dump her right away. Or they've taken the bluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:51 PM
1

I really wish we would normalize gap years in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:12 PM
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Women today are conditioned to believe that if they aren't given blind trust by a man, the man is toxic. Any attempts to verify or rule out a suspicion is met with shaming, and we are told that to even have a suspicion is grounds for a breakup. Because like I said, blind trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:10 PM
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I don't know why you say no chance tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:57 PM
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I chose the lower limit as such because on average both genders start their adult life around 24 with their first independency attempts. Side note: Assuming this is true, it saddens me greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:32 PM
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I don't see a reason a man has to convince a woman to not have sex with him. He doesn't need to hold her hand to make sure she's making a wise decision, try to talk her out of it, or double check her intentions. Men have no obligation to walk around with a sign that says "Sex only" or "Fuckboi!" If you want to know his intentions, ask. Only if he overtly lies should you even have a problem. You can't be like "Why didn't you make sure I made good choices!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:20 PM
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Frankly the dating priorities of a 24 year old are going to be different on average than a 30+ year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:06 PM
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I agree. Stark contrast between the days of Eharmony and the current days of Tinder/Bumble/Hinge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:05 PM
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I recently saw a woman post her list of "red flags" where she would immediately reject an online dating profile if the dude wore too many hats in pictures, or took pictures with boats or fish, or didn't have a college degree. It's very common for men to congregate online and come up with various terms, then those terms make their way into the mainstream only to be misappropriated by dummies (e.g. Grifter is someone popular you disagree with, incel is anyone opposed to feminism even if they have …
/r/MensRights21/01/22 06:45 PM
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I agree that number is high. Even if it's 1%. 1 out of every hundred fathers is raising a kid that isn't his? That's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:14 PM
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I think all men who have a child should get a paternity test, no matter how sure you are. 32% of dna tests come back negative. To be fair, this number is going to be artificially high due to sample bias. I.e. Who's getting the tests? Disproportionately men who have reason to be suspicious in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:36 PM
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The majority of them aren't even red flags, they're just preferences or they're just throwing shade at people that the poster might have interacted with. "Scared of gold-diggers when they have 5$" is literally the poster just recalling an interaction with somebody and throwing shade. And it's clearly not the only one like that.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 05:03 PM
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Yeah. The problem with men and porn is that it desensitizes them to sex. Typically, stop watching porn fixes the problem. When a woman fantasizes about other men, that's a sign that the clock is just ticking down on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:31 PM
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All words are social constructs. Throw out language I guess because feminism.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 03:21 PM
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For example, would a man as described in title, not feel any negative emotions if his wife regularly watched straight porn and became aroused fantasizing about the male actor sexually? I would have negative emotions about my wife fantasizing about other men, yes. That said, I couldn’t help but wonder how he would feel about her wanting to fantasize about someone else. We aren't aroused the same and don't view porn the same and don't experience sex the same. I don't know why people think you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:18 PM
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Some of these are fine, and some are what you'd expect from a woman's list of "red flags." Most of the time if you ask a woman what a red flag would be, it's going to be extreme or ambiguous, or a personal preference. I.e. not useful. Personal preferences aren't red flags. A red flag is going to be relatively specific and true for almost everyone across the board. You can tell that her "red flags" list is really just her bitching about her ex/exes.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 03:00 PM
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Even if you grant suffrage, there's really nothing after that. So for over 90% of its existence, feminism has been no more than a grift. Imagine if people were walking around calling themselves "Abolitionist" today.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 02:42 PM
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No problem. I mean socially, especially romantically. Never been on a date, never had a relationship, never kissed or had sex, etc. I think this is fine. You'll hear tryhards on reddit say shit like "I would rather have a slut who knows what she's doing!" Don't listen to those guys, or the girls who buy into it. It's like, yeah for casual sex, maybe. But it doesn't sound like you're into casual sex. Personally, I would have no problem "coaching" a girl through sexual activities. It's not that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:44 AM
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Of course genetics plays a role. However, if you are aware that these are bodies largely enhanced by lighting, dehydration, between-scenes pumps, and PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, then the bodies just become part of the detachment from reality. However, what many perceive to be "unrealistic" is just a fit dude with a six pack. It's no different than girls stroking the ego of fat chicks on Tik Tok, then shaming the hot girls because they hurt body positivity or some shit. Getting to 10% body fat i…
/r/MensRights21/01/22 03:31 AM
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It seems like a lot of people on this sub think that women should try to settle down by 25 or 30 I could easily be misconstrued as one of these "people" so let me clarify: I'm not interested in telling you what you "should" do because I don't know you. All I'm saying is that if a family is a priority, then having that figured out before your late 20s is in your best interest. All I'm saying. Nobody is saying that you will die an old crone if you don't do that. But you can't pretend that choices …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:02 AM
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Well, to be fair, I'm starting to suspect that every feminist issue is actually a men's issue being appropriated by feminists.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 02:34 AM
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I do both. Our sexual preferences are not symmetrical and we shouldn't pretend they are. If I'm a doctor or a lawyer or a pilot, that's going to check some boxes for a large number of women by default. That just doesn't work the same for men.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:28 PM
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iM nOt ThE StEpDaD iM tHe dAd WhO sTePpEd uP
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:19 PM
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I reject the notion that we can't be prejudice in who we have sex with. That being said, looking at them objectively, straight women come with reassurances that bi women do not. I.e. You have a reasonable guarantee that a straight woman's friends are not going to want to fuck her and she's not going to want to fuck them. That level of certainty is diminished when she's bi. But at the same time, it's not like you can forbid her from having friends. So the onus is now on her to compensate for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:22 PM
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No and doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:12 PM
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The likelihood of infidelity is always part of the girlfriend calculation, to say nothing of LTRs and especially marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:11 PM
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Is this a serious question or an accusatory question? Because I can give a serious answer if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:08 PM
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Bisexuality does not equal sexual openness. Nobody said it does. There are just hypothetically more people you could be attracted to. Which is more sexually open than an equal straight woman. the existence of any bisexual people who choose not to have casual sex unravels your point. They are more sexually open than straight women who refuse to have casual sex. What might be a more accurate interpretation of your point is that there is no point to dating a bisexual woman if she is NOT sexually op…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:40 PM
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So you have to worry I didn't say you have to worry. Do you think bi-women don't cheat on their boyfriends with girls, ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:34 PM
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You don't have to worry about her cheating with her girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:23 PM
1

Woah TLDR. Summarize please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:07 PM
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I want this to be a valid point because it "makes sense" on a surface level, but frankly, even straight women are typically more amenable to FFM threesomes than MMF threesomes. But the idea that a bisexual woman, on average, is going to be less into FFM threesomes than a straight woman is silly. Even if they are equal in terms of comfortability with group sex, they aren't equal in arousal, nor are they equal in sexual openness. Further, I didn't say that being bisexual makes you into group sex b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:06 PM
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wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:54 PM
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I think it's fair to say that men with big dicks are more confident than men with small dicks. The application of the term "SDE" in reality has little to do with actual confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:11 PM
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I don't personally use the term or take it seriously. I might use it ironically. It just means "I don't like that." If you actually ask women to define it, they will respond with rambly gobbledygook. It's meant to be a stand-in for "insecure," which is also used incorrectly by those who benefit from manipulating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:40 PM
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I would not feel the same about it, but I also would still probably not wife her up. I would be slightly less grossed out, but I would still call into question her stability, and her ability to actually have a serious LTR with someone. You would think 3ways would be on the table by default, so that would theoretically be a positive. However, one of my wife's friends is bi, and she said that she wouldn't have a 3way with her current baby-daddy because she doesn't want to share. To that I say, "Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:11 PM
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"Only insecure men with SDE would care about a woman's past" -same energy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:05 PM
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They aren't threatened by unattractive women. They never do this with women who have great bodies, because women with great bodies make them feel bad about themselves. Speaking specifically about what I've seen on Tik Tok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:17 PM
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Both. I wish people would stop giving this advice that you should look good "for you." I think to myself, "Bitch, the very concept of what 'looks good' was instilled into you by other people." It's important for us to impress people. "The women are for you dumbass" This is a great way of looking at it. Hits the nail on the head. But obviously, it's still not just for you. You are doing it to impress the women. If the women didn't fuck you, you'd be far less motivated to do it. We are social anim…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:13 PM
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That same study said that women were far more likely to speak to men they deemed physically unattractive than a man would be So what? I don't understand why that detail gets glossed over by all you mother fuckers It's a non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:03 PM
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He doesn't make a lot of money now but there's a solid chance that he will make good/a lot of money in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:49 PM
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It isn't them saying those guys are ugly It's literally women saying they're below average. What do you think women think average means?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:59 PM
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I guess that all depends on what level of the pill spectrum you're on, in reference to the hypergamy thing. My argument to that is that it will eventually make almost no sense for women to be hypergamous unless they want to be polygamous and marry the few men with significantly greater access to resources, when income and access to wealth will essentially be equalized in the next 20 years. I'm just a realist. But, no, I really doubt women perceive 7's as average seriously. They aren't blind, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:45 PM
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They aren't feigning anything. It's literally just how they perceive the world. The perception of average is simply skewed. That's not a complaint, by the way. I don't think women are wrong for being hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:17 PM
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Women think a 7 is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:57 PM
1

Mitch Daniels might be the most popular governor in Indiana history.
/r/MensRights14/01/22 08:46 PM
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There aren't too many useful generalizations about cheating with regard to "tropes" of man/woman. The only things that tend to be true often enough to have somewhat of a predictive utility are the following: Women generally cheat up, economically. When women cheat, they're generally checked out of the relationship already. Meaning she's not aroused by you anymore, foot's out the door, and there's no real coming back for the guy. When women are satisfied in their relationship, they don't really n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:39 PM
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Can't really put Kevin in the same sentence as Jack Murphy and be taken seriously. I don't put the guys who are successful in their own right in the same grouping as the guys who's only brand and claim to success is "I'm so fucking alpha buy my brand and be alpha like me!" Kevin saying men can cheat while claiming he's a man of god that would never cheat on a woman himself) I also wouldn't cheat on my wife, also a man of God. But I see no reason secular men should stay monogamous or even get mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:10 PM
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That's why my position is simply: I'm realistic about sex, arousal and sexual differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:56 PM
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Yeah I want motherhood. However, I don't see a good argument for secular men to desire marriage today, and I'm basically unconcerned with secular preferences on having kids, too. If you do want kids, the best way of doing that is marriage. Trying to have your cake and eat it too, where you decide you want kids with a woman who's comfortable coexisting in a harem, is just as delusional (maybe more so) than a feminist who wants to "have it all" in her feminist way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:06 PM
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I don't identify myself as "Red Pill Man" It's weird to be associated with grifters and obvious charlatans. I mean look at this shit There's a dude who refers to himself as "The Bull." Lmao. I've also heard men on panels unironically be like "Oh man I hate when your plates start internal struggles and try to sabotage each other to win your affection!" And then other "Alphas" on the panel nod along like "Yup, that's right I HATE when that happens!" I just think who the fuck is buying this shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:50 PM
3

I'm all about gun proliferation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:41 PM
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Suckas. Idolizing. Mediocre. Pussy. SIMP. Simping is when a dude offers you time, energy, resources, and validation for nothing in return. If you have men simping for you, it just means they're pining for your affection, and you might give little pats on the head in return. E.g. The "just a friend" who will drop whatever he's doing to give you a ride to an appointment, or listen to your boyfriend problems, or help you move, etc. If your boyfriend takes you out for a romantic dinner and buys you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:39 PM
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I think you need to stop holding men to female dating standards. Women want companionship and validation from the opposite sex, and men largely want sex from the opposite sex. Now, obviously both sexes want validation. Women get validation from acts of provisioning and words of affirmation. Men get validation from overt sexual interest. That's not my personal recommendation or a prescription of what should be. That's simply how it is. So if she can have an orbit of simps, a man should feel no sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:08 PM
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Generalizations are treated like absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:20 PM
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How would they know who has wife skills if they’re just going after the most attractive woman that pays them any attention? Dafuq are they gonna do? Go for ugly bitches who leave them on read? That’s why you see so many men in unhappy relationships. They chose someone strictly based off looks Looking for perfection, but also apparently just looking based strictly on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:19 PM
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Midwits value college degrees more than doctors do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:06 PM
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Can't be a baseball player. Huge red flag. -OP, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:02 PM
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Skimmed 3/4 of the way through the article and all I'm reading is that there's an all natural secret technique. And then it tells me there's another article about the technique. And then there's apparently an interview with someone about the technique. Spam.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:43 PM
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Involuntary Celibate. There's no "removing yourself" option. And no, you can't be married with kids and be an incel. That's the most mental-gymnastics confirmation bias idiocy I've heard regarding the term. Just say you disagree. You don't have to misuse internet lingo and then insist you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:36 PM
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Oh man you know us guys constantly prioritizing MBTI types and "signs," and nexting all women that can't speak at least 3 languages.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:26 PM
3

Which apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:08 PM
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No they aren't. They're looking for attractive women with wife skills. It's unreasonable I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:03 PM
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I think it's more than that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:34 PM
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Because hypergamy has two sides and money only satisfies one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:28 PM
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I think it's pretty funny when women attempt to seize control of their loneliness by creating arbitrary red flags to rule out literally every guy so they don't have to cope with rejection and future abandonment. It's a red flag if you like fishing, working out, boats and dogs. lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:23 PM
2

And this is why so many women are destined to be ex-wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:52 PM
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You want the best looking girl that you can pull. Men only want to marry the best looking woman in he’s able to pull. These are not the same thing. And it is just an expression of ignorance nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:49 PM
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Porn enthusiasm is fake No shit. 😔🤦‍♂️ people are intentionally dense around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:45 PM
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You can be married and still be in my 50 shades of incel/RP dude view What do you think incel means?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:38 PM
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Well people have this habit of accusing people of complaining when they're just pointing out facts about human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:37 PM
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I had a woman teach me when I was young how to make women keep coming back around. I was kinda groomed. I've heard this about older women. I had to learn by reading online, watching videos, and testing. I see a lot that the incel/RP narrative is very heavy in slut shaming. Maybe this is why you guys are having the “starfish” problem? You guys don’t go for promiscuous women or vise versa so of course a woman with less sexual experience is going to be less experienced. This whole paragraph is pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:44 AM
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I agree. But as evidenced by the OP, there are clearly women out here who legitimately don't understand what it means to be enthusiastic in bed. She might be sincerely excited to have sex with you, but in the act she might get nervous, or "get in her own head" about her performance. And that performance anxiety can get in the way of outwardly expressing enthusiasm. That's why in my other comment I brought up men being comfortable "coaching" women in bed. That way, she doesn't have to worry about…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:17 AM
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Do you have personal experience with having this argument with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:12 AM
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Aye squirting happens all the time in real life. No it doesn't, but I did actually just make a post earlier pointing out that all women have the ability to squirt. But you have this myth, that women put out there, that some women lack the ability to squirt. Which isn't true, it just doesn't happen the way that it does in porn, because those women drink lots and lots of water before a scene and they just piss everywhere. You could solve all your problems by simply focusing on the women’s needs an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:09 AM
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Yeah you can work for yourself too. I don't know how you expect to measure industriousness without considering how productive someone is. Men are more productive than women... just kind of how the world works. Some traits skew male and some traits skew female. Most antisocial people are men. It's not a slight on men or women, it's just how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:45 AM
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I don't put down housewives, housework, mothering, or acts of service. Especially moms that take an active role in homeschooling and playdates. Shit's important for the kid. That being said, the false equivocation from women is real. My wife was showing me a Tik Tok the other day where a woman was going off in full "YASS QUEEEN" fashion about men being ungrateful and not doing enough choreplay. Usual nagging. One of the commenters was a woman, who taught kindergarten, saying that she's happy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:23 AM
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This is weird. First, what's an explosive orgasm? Are you referring to squirting in porn, or are you referring to ... loudness? You can't even tell women that you want them to be enthusiastic about sex. How is this hard? How does me wanting enthusiasm get lost in translation? Were you under the impression that simply laying there was enthusiastic enough, and all of us making fun of the starfish women disrupted your worldview? Honestly a lot of women could learn a thing or two about enthusiasm fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:12 AM
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Wrong. Men want hip:waist ratio and trait agreeableness. Those are going to be the two traits that correlate to a woman's ability to get a husband. Men value competence because we evolved to value competence, because women selected for it. Men value what gets men laid. We don't value what get's women laid. "Bro you gotta throw on some yoga pants and hit the squats my guy!" If this theory of yours were true, men would be walking around in yoga pants that squeeze the top and bottom of their ass ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:57 AM
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Industriousness is predominately a male trait. You could get a rough estimate of this trait when you look at overtime hours worked. It's basically men working damn near all of the overtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:43 AM
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It's less effective and not really less complicated. Entire internet subcultures were born dedicated to meeting people IRL. It's far deeper than an effective OLD profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:00 PM
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Who's railing all these hoes if men aren't participating?
/r/MensRights08/01/22 10:55 PM
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Imagine waking up one day in your mid teens and grown men and boys alike are not just glancing at you, or checking you out but wanting to do you favors and generally be around you and clamoring for your approval. Hell, you could be one of these people for all I know. But the simple truth is that they view the world in a skewed way and it makes it difficult to share a home. This is why the tongue-in-cheek hot/crazy matrix puts 9s and 10s outside of the wife zone. The joke is that you can't go thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:35 PM
1

There's also the concept of being too hot to be wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:15 PM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:03 PM
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Well this is where women actually misunderstand 80/20. It's not that each woman finds 20% of men attractive. It's actually far less than that. If you're single, go throughout the day with a mental count of all of the attractive men you see (i.e. if he cold approached you, you'd hear him out). By the end of the day or designated time period, you'll find that the actual number of men you're attracted to is far less than 20%. 20% is just a kind-of-arbitrary percentage of men who have options, i.e. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:03 PM
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She admits to you that she's alpha widowed by at least 4 other men who outperformed you sexually, yet you "own her?" The chances that a 19 y/o dude is going to outperform over 120 men is pretty low. Not insulting you, that's just objective reality. This is a red flag of the highest order, and the only reason to "look past her past" is having a scarcity mindset. There's zero chance I believe that she contracted genital herpes from rape and not from fucking more than 120 guys. She's already been m…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/22 09:09 PM
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Yet another example of women having no clue how men think or behave sexually. As evidenced by Men on tinder not wanting marriage unless you look like a Stacy. What bum is hopping on Tinder hoping to wife up a Tinderella?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:01 PM
1

If the ideas were mainstream they wouldn't have spawned a fringe internet subculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:26 AM
0

You problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:46 AM
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Sorry I didn't tell you want you want to hear. But the OP was answered accurately. The only way it'd be "useless" is if you just didn't understand the point being made, though it seems pretty clear to me. Here it is, Barney style: Younger women are more likely to prefer womanly men. Teenage girls have always gone googly eyed for skinny pretty musicians. I'm sorry if you can't do much with he information.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:25 AM
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You are right, we should correct our statement. The sexual revolution was pushed by feminists and men who profit off of promiscuity. Btw Kinsey was a creepy pedo-advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:57 PM
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Do you get pissy whenever someone doesn't have an opinion on something? Spitting facts=pissy Sex is as consequential as caviar. <--- that's an actual opinion on promiscuity. Parent comment is a non-opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:35 PM
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The life expectancy was so low because of infant/child mortality rate. When infant mortality is factored out, the life expectancy goes up to 45-50. That being said, the "age" isn't the important factor. The age of peak SMV regarding men is correlative, i.e. it correlates with the age where you are most likely to have an optimum looks/money/status combo. That's subject to change every generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:30 PM
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Curiosity has nothing to do with it. That's an odd choice of word. However, there is such a thing and it's called different names. Nihilism, psychopathy, sociopathy, antisocial, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:23 PM
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Correct. You should never take into account a secular woman's maturity. You will be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:04 PM
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I'm a dude who got married at age 20, wife was 19. Motivated predominately by religious beliefs, even though neither of us were virgins and we definitely didn't stay abstinent. I was in the military. Wife had daddy issues. Definitely had some kind of oneitis at the time, not anymore. I also have a great marriage ten years later, and a child. My opinion on RP? It is mostly correct. No, not the reddit blackpill doomers masquerading as RP, but the RP that's consistent with Rational Male, No More Mr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:55 PM
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Clearly not because men still act like women giving birth in their 30s is a big ass deal. Feels before reals. The fact that's your only benefit of having kids younger shows that having kids younger is a bad idea. Ask an OB/GYN what the ideal childbearing age is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:31 PM
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Well she didn't answer the question and the only way for you to achieve any authority on the matter is for me to be angry. Hold women accountable? Must be angry. Or I'm just matter-of-fact... but that wouldn't conform to your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:15 PM
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Thanks for answering a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:14 PM
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A complete lack of interest in certain activies is certainly a thing. Yeah and? You can have a lack of interest in hookups but there's still a reason for it whether you admit it or not. If your position is that sex is as meaningful as choosing a new dress, that's an opinion. It expresses how you value sex, and gives insight into how you view promiscuity. You can believe promiscuity is a virtue, or believe its sending you to hell, and still honestly say "I don't care what other people do." The la…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:13 PM
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Not everything has to be either good or bad Sex is consequential and baked into the human experience. The chances that someone legitimately has "no opinion" on promiscuity is literally 0%. That doesn't mean you have to take a black or white stance, obviously. It is very common for women especially to present non opinions as opinions, to avoid being called judgey. Which is perhaps the worst thing you can call a secular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:10 PM
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That's some interesting gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:08 PM
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i.e. you believe sex is as consequential as choosing new earrings. That's an actual opinion about promiscuity. Who I responded to offered no opinion on promiscuity. They deliberately refused to give an opinion, and spiked the football on top of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:07 PM
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Doubtful but keep buying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:05 PM
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Standard female non-answer. In other words: "I'm not a slut because sluttiness is bad, IMO, but I don't want to seem judgey so I will instead spin my refusal to answer the question into righteous non-judgey-ness."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:38 PM
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She said I had introduced her to the real Santa, whilst the mum had sent her to a 'fake, imposter' My son literally pulled this on a stranger that showed us a picture of santa. "That's just a guy in a costume." My 5 y/o is a natural skeptic. Some days, santa and spiderman are real. Others, santa is bullshit.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 06:47 PM
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And what if men generally don't want their babies grown out of a lab? I know, shocker, but most men would prefer to have babies the old fashioned way. There's also something to be said about your youth and having the energy to keep up with small children. is that the men obsessing over those things They must be obsessed for your criticism to land. Unfortunately, we aren't obsessed, so this is a pointless claim. obsess over single motherhood Same I have a cousin that had two healthy daughters at …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 06:39 PM
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Most dating is initiated online, and second most dating is going to be initiated within a social circle. So no, I don't think industry is going to play as large a role as you would expect. It's still a question worth pondering, but the fact is most young men would be better off graduating high school and going to a trade school right away than going to college if they're playing the long game. Build wealth much younger that way. However, in the current dating market, it's going to be highly sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:30 PM
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Yes they can be found in high schools across the world. If you are an adult I do not suggest pursuing high schoolers because illegal and creepy. And Korea, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:14 PM
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While this is true in a sense, that doesn't mean "say yes to all dates." Women should be hypergamous. This idea on this sub that hypergamy is demonized needs to go. Women should be selective. The solution to whatever problem you have isn't to say yes to every bum, but maybe recalibrate what you consider to be "worthy" of your time. As for what I would prefer, I'm not sure. I know for a fact that sometimes initial attraction isn't there, but as you get to know someone attraction builds. Even as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:11 PM
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Whether men work on their looks or not, you are going to see this same scenario play out. Women have evolved to be pleasing to the visual. Women are even more visually pleasing to other women... i.e. a woman will have an easier time pointing out other sexually attractive women than men. Even if every man today decided to become an overly groomed metrosexual, some kind of pareto distribution is going to apply. Women aren't aroused by metrosexuals, they're aroused by testosterone. This exacerbatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:56 PM
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The exchange is just an example of a couple of women having no clue what men want in a partner. As for men preferring "women who know what they're doing," women tend to not even know what this means in practice. These same "experienced" women are consistently offering up basic ass sex, thinking they're giving the holy grail. Compare that to an "inexperienced" chick, who can be coached up to basic quality in literally one session. Just one example of being "experienced" while "basic": Most women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:47 PM
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women don’t actually care how tall you are Empirically, that's untrue. They don’t care if you’re a “Chad” True. most women don't know what this means they don’t want you to make a certain amount of money If only. The already high divorce rate (70-80% initiated by women) shoots up significantly when the woman earns more. they don’t care how mega-ripped you are I mean I don't know how you personally quantify this, but fit guys get more attention from girls. Just the way it is. Hence "the golden ra…
/r/MensRights17/12/21 08:09 PM
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E.g. Ronnie Coleman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:13 PM
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There is no natural intervention whatsoever that would spike your baseline testosterone to a degree that would cause behavior changes like that. Even temporary spikes in testosterone won't change your behavior that significantly, even if those temporary spikes were made permanent. And even women on steroids do not have even close to the T-levels of normal, healthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:09 PM
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So I can offer some advice here. Yes, be comfortable in your skin, but I'm not going to lie: We all want to be more conventionally attractive. It's in reach, my friend! Just be patient. Cut bodyfat %. Men typically carry our weight in our face. It's bullshit I know. But most guys struggling with their face/jaw would benefit from a SAFE AND EFFECTIVE cut down' to about 10-12% bodyfat. That face fat hides that beautiful facial structure, and there's nothing unattainable about 10-12% for most guys.…
/r/MensRights17/12/21 04:37 PM
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Progressives be like: Transgender women should be allowed to compete against real women because there's no difference between male and female bodies. But sexist cars are designed to be uniquely protective of the male body which isn't different than the female body.
/r/MensRights17/12/21 04:23 PM
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I drew this conclusion already based solely on observation. Girls are pretty liberal when it comes to calling other girls pretty or cute (unless they feel threatened). I've noticed that their personal opinion heavily affects attractiveness. My wife was appalled recently after we disagreed on the attractiveness of a female on social media that she knows. She's in shape, pretty good looking. But my wife finds her insufferable. Her argument? "She looks like an old lady." In reality, she has a few w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:20 PM
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If a white woman were to say "I want to speak to your manager about the insufficient commitment to DEI!" You would all applaud the person who outed her as a Karen. Flip the sexes, suddenly people are exposed as being just as hypocritical as feminists. And you always fall back on "Well society allows feminists to do x, y, and z!" Yeah, the gynocentric social order encourages feminists to be insufferable. I don't think the answer is for feminine men to be just as insufferable to own the fems.
/r/MensRights17/12/21 03:00 PM
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Many women pointed out that dating becomes harder for older women but its still infinitely easier than dating as an average male of the same age. Not a rebuttal. It's a confirmation of RP, if the goals are the same. I don’t disagree, but the idea that low status males who struggled with dating all throughout their teens and 20s will suddenly be swimming in young pussy when they become middle aged is a far cry from reality. The only people who describe RP claims in this way are its critics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:57 PM
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In this case we are taking about a woman who married young to a man who wasn't successful. You are the one who diverted from "this case," see: To be honest, women are judged for beauty every where, every day. It's tiring. Rather just chill like a hippie on a beach for the rest of your life. And women will hit the wall anyway for men. Its a game that we are meant to loose in. So why put in the effort? All investments are made for future, and this investment (beauty) has diminishing returns. In wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:55 PM
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No, you flipped it. They lost value because they lost beauty. To argue against it is to make one of two claims They lost no value, which requires the absurd implicit claim that beauty isn't valuable, or: They didn't lose beauty at all, i.e. younger women are not more attractive than older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:51 PM
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I don't know Harvey or his wives (not American) but you keep saying his wife let herself go Idk. I'm going off of what OP said. The overarching question isn't about Steve Harvey, it's about men who get the coveted "Woman who stuck by me when I was low," and why those men might leave those women. I have know idea what Steve Harvey's ex-wife looks like, and I have no clue what his actual relationship status is. Again, just taking OP's words at face value. How can anyone in any way think she is eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:45 PM
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Ok let's break it down. Did you find women's arguments against "the wall" yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:06 PM
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If women played the way men did Where ya been the last 20 years? Women do play the way men do, and it's why they're losing. Very young women seem to be waking up a little bit, but that's just hopefulness from reading some recent data. But the truth is, we just had a generation of hoe phases and hot girl summers being glorified. What exactly do you think that is, if not a man's game? It's the pursuit of quantity over quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:05 PM
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That's basically what this post is about isn't it No. Men getting rid of their wives but they are the victim? No. I can clarify my position on the matter if you like, but I don't know exactly where you think I'm being contradictory. It's entirely possible that I didn't articulate my points in the best way. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:47 PM
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To be honest, women are judged for beauty every where, every day. Indeed. it's a blessing and a curse. It's tiring I bet. We all have our crosses to bear. Rather just chill like a hippie on a beach for the rest of your life. Eh I dont' think so. It'd get old after a few days. And women will hit the wall anyway for men. So? This doesn't matter unless you wait until you hit the wall to settle down. My own wife is post-wall... so what? she's still hot AF. Works out every day. She won because she go…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:46 PM
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Cognitive dissonance 101
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:38 PM
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Imagine thinking this in an age where women initiate the vast majority of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:34 PM
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They stuck when the man had nothing. Which is important, I agree. The new wife is more likely to be a gold digger. Also fair to point out. But guess you you think should take the heart break. The one who got fat. Not the gold digger. It's not a disease. You don't "catch the fatness." Nah, you let yourself go, which is disrespectful in my view. Obviously Steve is a dude that values attractive women. If he's subsidizing a lavish lifestyle, what is his wife providing that's of value? She's actively…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:31 PM
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Sounds like you found arguments "against" the wall. none (from what I saw) suggested that younger women are less attractive / not more attractive than older women. By definition, any argument against the wall is making this claim, implicitly or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:07 PM
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Yeah. I addressed this. If you hitch your wagon to a man who levels up, that gets you a great deal of loyalty. But it goes away if you don't pull your weight. You don't get to say "ABC Base on me!" just because you picked him first. You still have to be in his frame, stay in shape, and avoid nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:54 PM
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I can't really judge like women do. If a woman sees the Steve Harvey situation, she immediately takes the woman's side. If you flip the sexes, women will still assume the best intentions of the woman. If we are giving the benefit of the doubt, we know that Steve Harvey's wife didn't care enough to stay slim and attractive for her extremely wealthy and famous husband. She landed a desired HVM, and still had the audacity to stay chubby? He's subsidizing a lavish life for you and you can't even put…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:44 PM
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Search the sub for "age" "the wall" "30" You will find them I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:38 PM
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It also depends on how they define pro-choice. I've had scenarios where two friends agree on the issue entirely, one described herself as pro-choice, the other as pro-life. I'm not arguing the majority of young women are pro-life, so I really don't see the point of this sidebar. But this is all distracting from the thread. I don't know what point you're trying to make. "You're standards rule out a majority of young women!" Um, yeah. That's correct. The market offers too much whore, not enough Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:34 PM
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I would feel betrayed as well. Maybe it depends on the kind of service you hitch your wagon to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:11 PM
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Not accurate. But the percentage of pro-choice women is irrelevant. We're talking about what makes women suitable for marriage. If 99% of young single women are overtly feminist, then 99% of women would be low-value/unmarriageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:06 PM
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I didn't say HVM don't exist. I am saying that the women who can't describe it can't tell you how to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:03 PM
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Low value=being unqualified for marriage. Here's a list: Taking too many dicks. Fat Identifies herself as a feminist Controversial, but it's my list so feel free to disagree, but it's objective: pro-choice/had an Abortion Unironically says "I'm not like other girls" Lacks female friends, and too many male friends Stays in contact with her exes Cluster B personality disorder Has children There's a hot list of 9 traits of low-value women as defined as being least qualified for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:47 PM
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There are a billion things we can't quantify or accurately define on paper, but we know them when we see them. Source? Can you make a proper definition between a stream vs a river? Yes. I know game exists. I can't fully define it or quantify it, but I know it when I see it. Even if you can't define it perfectly, you could still talk about it specifically. And by the way, I didn't ask for a definition of game, that's a broad term that covers various strategies. I just pointed out that women can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:34 PM
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No I want to feel like my work place cares Ew.
/r/MensRights16/12/21 05:15 PM
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First of all, webster is trash, and you can define things in your own terms, which I personally think is preferable to consulting a dictionary 9/10 times. That being said, then you actually can't even know if game is required, if you don't even know what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:13 PM
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Yeah, here's the "game" Be hot Be in his social circle Do shit for him Oh no, but then you'd be a "pick me!" From there, it's up to the man. Women apparently think that cheeky "hard to get" BS is going to somehow finagle a dude into a marriage. Might get a dude to notice you at first, maybe. In reality, that shit might be coy and attractive at first, but there's no "game" involved in locking someone down as a woman. Eventually, if you have red flag qualities, they're gonna come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:51 PM
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99% of women can't define HVM in a tangible or verifiable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:47 PM
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You're going to HR because your #Meetoo training isn't inclusive enough
/r/MensRights16/12/21 04:33 PM
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Well you could always watch The Wilds and see if they unintentionally hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:04 PM
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There's an all-female lord of the flies on amazon prime, it's called The Wilds. Haven't seen it. Looks cringe. Definitely not RP. The reality is that Lord of the Flies missed the mark entirely. Turns out humans are far more cooperative than the author predicted. The boys were very cooperative in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:00 PM
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Isn't a bigger insult if someone who previously rejected you, still doesn't want you now that they're settling down? Compared to them settling for you? Actually, the former isn't insulting at all. And in reality, neither is insulting once you understand female nature. However, "settling" for you is more insulting if they past you up already. Being someone's consolation prize is way worse than them just not being into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:47 PM
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Depends. I think muscles on women are sexy, but she has to still have feminine proportions/ratios. Look at the other female divisions of bodybuilding. You have bikini competitors, and wellness competitors. Both of these groups of women are muscular, but still feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:43 PM
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I saw an interview with a male stripper once. What he described regarding bachelorette parties will RP the fuck out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:39 PM
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Did that sound like some kind of "own" in your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:19 PM
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t doesn't help if he's already stopped and got his penis inside of you. This advice only works in a perfect world At this point, you are at the "I'm arguing just to argue" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:13 PM
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I mean everything you just said is wrong unfortunately but good luck. "Don't ever fake anything unless it's enjoyment of something he likes that you're not into" 🥴 Selfish women can't register nuance. Just because it's not black and white, doesn't mean there is any contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:36 PM
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Because women for some reason don't talk during sex unless you coach them to do so. It's as simple as the following few phrases: Harder/softer/faster/slower Right there/Just like that/Don't stop You're gonna make me cum/You're making me cum/I'm cumming Don't replace your sex life with dildos. Women using dildos, but at the same time bemoaning the fact that men watch porn, are missing the plot entirely. If you are one of the "porn=cheating" crowd, wtf do you think dildoing yourself is? Do not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:03 PM
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I think you are a male Karen
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:50 PM
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I.e "The point I'm trying to make has nothing to do with what you said but I'm going to trudge forward with it anyway and pretend you said things you didn't say! I'M A GOOD PERSON!"
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:47 PM
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Happy to hear it
/r/MensRights15/12/21 09:12 PM
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You're just jealous that my harem game is on point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:29 PM
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Why are you so much on edge? I just replied to your statement about why supposedly men just cannot be as good parents as women I might be on edge because that's not what I said, and you are insisting that's what I said, and replying to me as if I said that. Should I thank you for twisting my words, strawmanning, and engaging in bad faith?
/r/MensRights15/12/21 08:27 PM
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I'm happy for you but I don't know why this is in response to what I said. I assume you mean that he's effeminate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:20 PM
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Don't you think most women are in relationships with guys they are at least somwhat attracted to? Pretty much the definition of Mr. Good Enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:55 PM
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Okay, you need to do the opposite assuming you're a guy (I only make this point because my advice was not exclusive for men). You need to hit the weights and probably TRT/HRT. I would not be surprised given your age and diet if your T-levels are destroyed.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 07:54 PM
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Yeah, and? We aren't talking about what "can" be done. I fed my son from a bottle. You think anyone is ignorant of the fact that babies drink from bottles? Make your damn point dude. All of you guys conveniently ignore the neurological differences between men and women when it comes to child-rearing as well (oxytocin production, personality differences, etc.), conveniently ignore evolution because you buy into feminist premises about men and women being totally interchangeable (except with stren…
/r/MensRights15/12/21 07:52 PM
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It's a niche. A dude with that style isn't going to have universal appeal with young women, but he will have appeal with a large minority of young women who are really into that style. And there's overlap with the punk/tattoos/etc. crowd. They like muscles, too, but it's not the primary thing that catches their attention. But you're correct about older women. They don't like young looking men. They like men who look their age and older, and a masculine appearance tends to win out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:50 PM
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but among women I rarely see a preference for a pale and skinny goth boyfriend These dudes would smash in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:58 PM
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You could do BJJ as well. Let the coach know your situation and they will work with you. "Light" rolling is a thing, and very common. People get hurt and still want to get mat time in. Plus, if everyone around you is going 100%, when you switch up, they will be happy to take a break from the intensity lol. Then as you get better at being calm, you will actually be able to go live more often. A major factor in BJJ is being calm. So while rolling live, you control your breathing, and your BP reall…
/r/MensRights15/12/21 04:56 PM
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I lacked the space too, just made room. Big eyesore in the corner of my living room but that's just my preference. A lot of people frequent guests, though. Plus, I'm on the bottom floor with hardwood flooring. But bodyweight is legit too. There are some dudes with insane physiques doing calisthenics. They're probably also enhanced, but I'm not opposed to that either.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 04:48 PM
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a sex object who should go home and take care of the kids Sounds based to me
/r/MensRights15/12/21 04:15 PM
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Either men and women are perfectly interchangeable widgets, or men just giving their work and belkngings for free There's no alternative. It's only those two options, apparently.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 04:12 PM
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Sure because men and women are perfectly interchangeable widgets in the mind of utopian progressives.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:57 PM
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I thought we are not supposed to generalise...? You thought wrong. Serious misogyny or misandry will be removed - this doesn't include posts about general traits of women/men, but attacks on either gender as a whole. From the sidebar^ And, no matter what celebs and influencers say, breast milk can a) be substituded, b) be purchased and or taken from milk bank - at least where live. By your own admission, to achieve the same nutritional quality, a man has to go out of pocket, and through external…
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:48 PM
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Have you seen a medical specialist? What do they say specifically about your physical limitations? Is it merely your blood pressure that causes this? If you can't lift, that's fine. Just do what you can. At the very least if you can do zone 2 (low intensity) cardio, that's going to be great for your longevity.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:43 PM
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When is the last time you tested yourself? Surely you'll feel pressure build up in your eyes before they pop like jelly. Gone for a jog recently? Stationary bike?
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:16 PM
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Literally not an example of it flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:10 PM
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Why would you wait until after high school? Your teens are when your testosterone is going to be spiking. I mean, if you literally have no way to lift weights in high school for some reason, fine. But you are going to be far better off if you start lifting at 15 than if you start lifting at 20. You want to take advantage of the ocean of testosterone flowing through your body, because it won't last forever.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:09 PM
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I can't give a specific answer because I don't know what causes eyes to explode. Why would your eyes explode both from boxing and BJJ? Would they explode from wrestling? Sprinting? Jump rope? If you literally can't do physical activity, you need to check your hormones regularly because your T-levels will tank much earlier in life if you are sedentary.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:03 PM
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No, they can't. If you can't breastfeed, you aren't the same quality. Take it up with God if that's an issue. That being said, don't make my argument into something its not. I speak in generalizations, not absolutes. It's generally true that mothers are more important for small children because that's how we evolved.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:00 PM
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There is no "we" here. Both sexes experience unfairness, and I hold women accountable just as much as men Life. Is. Not. Fair.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:57 PM
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Guarantee I've helped more men with depression than 99.99% of reddit since I worked directly with them for almost a decade. But No, I'm one of those people who asks wtf you are doing about the specific problems you bitch about. OP didn't come here to whine about his depression, he whined about women not selecting him, and "fairness." Feel free to give away participation trophies and unearned validation, but its not my style.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:56 PM
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Well I wouldn't believe it in reality, but it's part of the thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:53 PM
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The YMCA often has childcare. Just look around. I have multiple gyms to choose from with childcare. That being said, I bought a power rack for my apartment after my gym started requiring masks for working out, and canceled my membership. So I don't have to worry about childcare anymore. Best decision I've ever made for my fitness.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:52 PM
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Might as well just deny evolution
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:51 PM
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Show me the simping?
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:50 PM
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How old are you
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:50 PM
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I do not care about equality or fairness. But not one person so far has pointed to where I'm wrong. It is pathetic to whine about your station if you've done nothing to improve it. Pointing to "that's not fair" and throwing your hands up, waiting for better men to come save you, is peak femininity.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 02:43 PM
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I want to throw up just reading that dude's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:40 PM
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Well, oxytocin, and I don't mind the pseudoscience. All that means is that there's limited/no research backing it up. Plenty of legit science started as pseudoscience. As long as its rational, I don't have a problem with it. The entire field of Evo-psych is still considered pseudoscience by many, so using the term solely to dismiss an argument isn't something I jive with personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:38 PM
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The top rated comment on that post was perfect advice. Get into BJJ, MMA, or boxing. Sleep 8 hours/night. 7 minimum. Lift heavy shit and put it back down Start with this simple routine for 6 months Eat 1g protein per 1 pound of bodyweight. (120bls=120grams protein) There you go. Do those four things for 6 months, and it will change your life. If you can't afford both the gym and martial arts, decide which is a higher priority. EDIT: Then again, there are some pretty damn cheap gyms out there. Ho…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 09:58 PM
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Look dude, it's not "unfair," it's literally biology. Women sexually select a certain way because they've evolved to do so. By your own admission, you are average-at-best, socially inept, and fear rejection. Why, logically speaking, would a woman pick you in your current state? Yeah I get it, its harder for men because we have to compete. It sucks, but it can't be changed. it's always been that way, since the dawn of time. Only about 30-40% of men throughout human history have successfully repro…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 09:51 PM
2

Mutually beneficial? Yes. Does that mean equally beneficial? No. And it's not equal in reward, risk, outcomes, access, enjoyment. It's not equal in effort or skill floor. The gist is that mutual=/=equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:33 PM
1

Yes, but correlation is not causation. The type of women that has a high-n count, is most likely the type that doesn't want to settle down and only fuck one guy. This doesn't really matter for the guy though. It's a red flag regardless. Doesn't matter if the notch count causes LTR-disqualification, or if the LTR-disqualification causes the high n-count. The outcome should be the same from a man's pov.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:31 PM
3

If your woman isn't jealous or clingy at all, she's checked out of the relationship.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 06:21 PM
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Depends on the stage of development. Mothers are more important for small children and babies. Fathers stand out when a child is coming of age and throughout the teens. Yin and yang baby. Not equal, but complimentary. That being said, pretty sure I've read straight off of the CDCs website that domestic violence rates are highest among lesbian couples, but it wouldn't surprise me if that data has been buried.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 06:19 PM
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Stoicism bad hurr durr! And they try to argue that the war on masculinity is some right wing fear mongering. Slate is a fuckin joke.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 06:15 PM
2

Sure. But it's just a mental exercise. It's also not realistic that you'll be in a position to have to choose to pull a lever to divert a train from killing 5 people to killing only one person. It's not realistic that you'll be attached to a world class violinist, keeping him alive, and have to choose whether or not to stay attached to him. But most thought experiments are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:01 PM
1

The "classical feminists" are only "reasonable" by comparison, but its their unhinged ideas about culture and family that caused the mess we're in.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 05:39 PM
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I don't see how it wouldn't be considered poly. It's certainly not monamory/monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:31 PM
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What you've actually displayed is a classic form of game, but you're being pretty weak about it. If you are in control of the sex, as a man, that's an empowered position. She is probably wondering "is he getting it from someone else?" "Was I not good enough?" "Did I do something wrong?" Especially if she's hot, she probably has limited experience facing rejection, which separates you from past men in her life. It creates a competition anxiety in her mind, which is healthy. Women only feel compet…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 04:42 PM
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Yes. The Madonna-Whore complex. Unfortunately, a challenge with a lot of men is that they're hesitant to let out their true sexual selves for fear of "degrading" the mother of their kids. The biggest RP is when you realize that "the mother of your kids" wants you to fuck her like you own her. She would much, much rather you take full control and dominate her and let it out, than "make sweet love" to her, taking great care to put her on a romantic pedestal, but then turn around and get your rocks…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:22 PM
2

Anyone who says 2 is lying or stupid. Men for the most part would say 2 if the genders were flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:13 PM
2

Because men almost all would say number 2 is worse. Men are hurt more by physical affairs, women are hurt more by emotional affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:13 PM
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Men would almost all say number two is worse if the genders are flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:11 PM
2

The point OP is trying to decipher is that women generally view emotional affairs as worse than physical affairs, and for men it's the reverse. I don't know how legit it is, but the surveys I've heard about jive with that conclusion, and it's rational to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:10 PM
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Depends on the breakdown of "poly." Serial FFM threesomes could certainly be considered poly, right? Men are more possessive of women than women are of men. Very, very few men outside of fetishists would even entertain a poly relationship because if he has the sexual options to "capitalize" on poly, he's better off single. If you aren't getting sexual exclusivity out of a woman, and she's certainly not paying your bills, wtf do you want her around for? Other than that, you have dudes who are pim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:04 PM
9

Feminists ruin everything
/r/MensRights13/12/21 09:01 PM
2

Below 10% is not going to happen for most men year-round. I think of 10% as being about the lowest you can maintain year-round while still being healthy. For some guys, that number might be 12%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:56 PM
2

For what it's worth I bought a power rack for my apartment once my local gym started being idiots about requiring masks. Best fitness decision I've ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:46 PM
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HGH can give you HGH head, but being low BF% is really what most guys need to get a better face. You don't even need to be ridiculous. A lot of guys just need to get down to 12%, some might need to get to ~10% and maintain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:45 PM
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Facial attractiveness in men is going to be positively correlated with a lower BF%
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:43 PM
0

But not as true for men as it is for women. Both groups have 10 partners, both groups take a hit to satisfaction. But women take a much larger hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:20 PM
6

Anybody else catch Rachel Maddow sneakily snuck into the first link? LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:44 PM
1

More like Me: Makes multiple claims You: Pretend I only made one claim Me: I already addressed that, you're disingenuous You: Haha I win see you just don't like "evidence."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:25 PM
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I'm not reading those. Didn't realize I was talking to someone who's only interested in "gotcha" conversations. I'll remember your name though so that I don't take you seriously in the future. Anyway, the Will Smith example addresses this. Will is obviously not desperately trying to hold onto pussy supply. You literally read that, and decided to not address it and pretend my only argument is that all men are desperately trying to hold onto their pussy supply. That's just the most common reason. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:06 PM
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Ma'am, there's no need to get feisty. Would you like to talk to my manager?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 04:44 PM
1

Actively embracing a lack of strength or control is a way to trick your mind into thinking you have strength and control. Some guys have oneitis so bad that they will tell themselves anything, and comply with any demand. Or, they'll get in front of it by being the one to suggest it. Same reason men agree to their women having bachelorette parties in Vegas and "girls night," it's just further down the spectrum. They convince themselves that having less boundaries=ackshully secure. The worst thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:43 PM
-1

Excuse me ma'am, but I'm going to have to ask you to calm down. You're hysterical.
/r/MensRights09/12/21 04:18 PM
1

Roger that!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:52 PM
0

What do you think it means?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:52 PM
1

Some do, and they avoid all things "beta" like the plague because they are LARPing, overthinking dorks. The kind of autists on 4chan's fit board who are annoyed by the fact that improving physique didn't grant them a hot tub full of bitches. Some are legitimately MGTOW because they don't believe the juice is worth the squeeze, which isn't unreasonable. Fact is, marriage is beta-bux. If a husband cannot satisfy that side of her hypergamy, she will eventually leave. But husbands can (and should) a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:31 PM
2

I'm not saying that fair is the goal. I'm just pointing out that it's not fair for the guy in any situation, even if he can pull out of the deal at any time, even if he agrees to it. It's not fair for him. That's not a complaint, just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:23 PM
1

So when you said "sticking by you through rough times" you were only referring to the specific scenario of not making money in college? No, but I was obviously NOT referring to losing one's ability to earn/provide long-term. Wtf do you think sticking through "rough times" means? It means, by definition, the rough times come to an end, If I had said "got through a tunnel" you would respond "So I'm just supposed to live the rest of my life in a tunnel!?" I can't believe you are this dishonest tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:04 PM
1

What explanation do you have for all the womanly responses?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:00 PM
2

No they aren't? It's indisputable. Not even gonna argue. The stereotype of men is that they are commitment-phobic and want to be "free". The stereotype is wrong The stereotype of women is they are desperate to be committed to men. Also wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:06 PM
0

Every woman who isn't a virgin is an alpha widow. And if she's not alpha widowed by the chad who made her love anal, then she's alpha widowed by whomever came after chad who made her love anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:59 PM
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According to you, "sticking by you through rough times" (the example I gave was a dude in college who makes a lot of money in 5-10 years) is the same as saying "you still want a woman to stay with you if lose your ability to provide longterm" Exactly. Sounds like standards for thee and not for me. Standards for women and standards for men are not, and never have been the same, nor should they be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:57 PM
1

FFM threesomes and the like are the only forms of "open" relationships that end up being "fair" for men. I don't really think there's any other way to truly make open relationships fair to dudes tbh. Even if you literally go 1 for 1, where the man lays into just as many women, as his wife is getting laid into by men, still not worth it for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:49 PM
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I don't really think there's a way to make open relationships fair tbh. FFM threeways probably the only thing I can think of. But even if you literally go 1 for 1, where the man lays into just as many women, as his wife is getting laid into by men, still unfair for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:47 PM
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You are skipping a few steps in your analysis, to say the least lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:44 PM
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Voluntary=/=fair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:41 PM
1

I don't know why you doubt this. Men are far more possessive of women than the reverse. It wouldn't stand to reason for men to be the ones proposing most open relationships. Now if we're talking about "throuples" and the various forms of poly, that would be one thing. Plenty of dudes would be on board with having 2 girlfriends. But just open, fuck who you want kind of open? No way that's mostly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:41 PM
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You are talking about the concept of the alpha widow, and you have to play it by ear. The guy in her past who was most sexually impressive, or memorable, or most arousing, or w/e. The idea being that she's still pining for him in some way. In some way, she's not really over him. Exhibit A of this: There was a post in /r/relationship_advice where a guy overheard his girl talking to her girlfriend. She said "OP is good, but I miss how 'ex-bf' used to really throw me around" because ex-bf was a big…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:48 PM
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As TRP always says: Men are providers. Yet you still want a woman to stay with you if lose your ability to provide longterm? It sounds like wanting to have your cake and eat it too. W/e you say Cathy Newman What if you got with a woman for her beauty, fell in love, and then she let herself get morbidly obese? Deuces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:38 PM
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Because dude lets be honest, there's ironically a lot of feminine energy on this sub. It stands to reason that you will have a reverse feminism problem. Also I'm convinced that over 50% of this sub is literally women.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 06:24 PM
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You'll see this disparity on most qualities. Men naturally want to qualify women, while women naturally disqualify men. Do this with any arbitrary state, and men are always going to be the most likely party to compromise. Of course most men would look the other way on politics. Most men don't have the option to say no to a woman and have another woman on standby. Also why would women date a soy boy instead of a masculine alpha man? Doesn't this prove the redpill wrong? This has been explained nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:20 PM
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I have seen both men and women peddle the idea on PPD that if a woman wouldn't date you when you are making 50K, but would date you when you are a top earner then 'she only wants you for your money. It doesn't necessarily mean that, but it could mean that. At the very least, it means she didn't see your potential at the time. If I met a girl in college before I was a high earner, and she didn't want anything to do with me until 5-10 years later, when I am a high earner, I have pretty good reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:15 PM
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I agree with plenty of Christian men and women on virtue, traditionalism, sexual ethics, and marriage. They are often pretty bluepilled/gynocentric in their preaching and relationships, which is not only counter to biblical doctrine, but it is ultimately detrimental to the relationship between men and women. It encourages men, in order to be a "real man," to be the ultimate simp for his wife, and encourage her to be the "actual boss" in the relationship. It makes me cringe when I see christian g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:06 PM
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Because, as I've learned here at PPD, women being "bullied" into doing sexual things they don't want to do is "rape", and that's illegal. So all those prior guys should be serving long prison terms. But they're not. Because their women did what they wanted to do REEEEEs incoming It's about her deciding that this guy is not someone she wants to do those "certain things" with. And that is ALL that this is about The point I've been trying to make on probably 3 separate posts this week. It's not abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:05 PM
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Bro I'm fucking dead
/r/TheRedPill07/12/21 07:46 PM
0

Sure but conservatives are also the only ones I ever see speak out about conscription, e.g. Ron Paul.
/r/MensRights07/12/21 07:38 PM
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Because you take that as your partner finding you unattractive. No. Her ex is more arousing to her than you are. You might be attractive, but she was clearly more afraid of losing her ex than losing you. So that is regarding a sex act you want. But what about a sex act you don't want? What it comes down to is sexual openness. Is she giving you her best, or did she already give away her best, and you get leftovers/obligation sex. Doesn't matter if you want it or not. Unwilling for you, but willin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:24 PM
1

Because their are no guarantees. Things can go wrong and people can change, sometimes drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:10 PM
1

as if it's a simple thing to stay good looking at that age It is simple, but sloth and gluttony are tempting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:07 PM
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The wall is not absolute Everyone will acknowledge that it's individual. Your wall is different than someone else's. The age at which you can no longer compete with your younger self is your wall, generally speaking. There is no set age Nobody believes their is, but clearly the age is somewhere north of 28 and younger than 40. Can we at least be a little realistic? Let's stop pretending women don't age. market value plumets That's not what the wall means. The wall is the start of the decline. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:28 PM
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Yes, for the same reason saving 20% of your income and maxing out your 401k can go wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:57 PM
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This is true if you go to the extremes. Obviously certain kinks naturally trigger a disgust response from normal people, in which case the woman would cease being aroused. But my point is that pressure=/=bullying. But women think that if they did something for their ex that they didn't want to do, then by default it's toxicity, therefore her ex was toxic. This is why every woman's relationship past is toxic boyfriend after toxic boyfriend. The guys aren't actually toxic, she just has a negative …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:35 PM
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Except that's not bullying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:30 PM
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I don't see how it matters WHY she's being sexually frigid. It's okay to disagree. I think understanding the why behind arousal is useful, you don't. That is fine. since you should be reacting the same way regardless. Well it doesn't always have to be a specific act. That's not all their is to sexual openness even if its a part of it. It can be frequency, level of enthusiasm, or how slow the relationship progresses. I'm not going to tell a guy what he should compromise on, because some women mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:30 PM
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I'm not even referring to the metaverse tbh, because that's done with avatars instead of real actresses. I'm talking about having a setup with a VR headset and peripheral devices to make the experience look and feel like you're fucking your favorite pornstars. I think it will start early 2022, and will quickly exacerbate by 2023. some guys will still want real women. And what do you think happens when those real women start nagging? Saying no to certain sex acts? Women better start desensitizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:13 PM
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lolol why do men always think this? Because it's true Why is it never "her ex bullied her until she did what he wanted?" Well it is that probably untrue, just like how all of her exes were "toxic" and she is never to blame for her failed relationships. What this really means more often than not is that he was able to pressure her into shit that she didn't want to do, but he did. And? If your wife nags you until you comply with her desires around the house, is she a bully too? Hardly. It just com…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:04 PM
1

What are your scores? I forget mine exactly, but I'm high in openness (86), high in conscientiousness (80-90), low in agreeableness (~10), Extra/introversion (50), low in neuroticism (1) (AKA emotional stability 99). The way to remember the big 5 traits is the acronym OCEAN. I don't remember if the website says that or not. But the big 5 has the best research and application behind it, and it doesn't label you with a "type." Someone high in agreeableness, for example, might be very kind and like…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:56 PM
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Sure I have. Not sure how its relevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:46 PM
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Yup. Women now literally have to compete with unlimited access to porn stars, with technology literally able to simulate intercourse. Getting a husband could very well come down to whether or not a woman brings enough value to get a man to say, "Okay, that's worth sacrificing a harem of beautiful women."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:45 PM
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You'll never know if she was more sexually open or experimenting and didn't like it If she experimented with her ex and not you, by definition she was more sexually open. Whether or not you can 100% confirm it is irrelevant. It doesn't affect how you should respond. If you think she might have been more sexual in the past, assume she was, for your own good. It doesn't matter. It definitely matters to men. She doesn't want to do it, so break up. Yeah Her past doesn't even have to come into the eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:42 PM
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We don't agree on the relevance of past sexual openness. If she was more sexually open with her ex, she's more aroused by her ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:15 PM
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Lol this is so immature. What if she tried something with an ex but didn't like it? If she did something once is she required to do with everyone, regardless of her opinion of it? She is not required to do anything, and I am not required to stick around. I don't see how either party is entitled to anything from the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:07 PM
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It's not about whether you like something or not. It's about whether you deserve better treatment from your partner than his/her ex. You don't deserve it, you earn it by being more arousing than her ex. If she's not as aroused by you, she's not going to give you her best sex. She already gave that away. And if you aren't more arousing, and you aren't getting her best, you should keep things casual. You are correct in this. If you aren't getting her best, pull back or break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:05 PM
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Yup. I don't think you will get any pushback for uttering that exact statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:59 PM
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For insight into personality, take the Big 5 personality test at openpsychometrics.org For insight into your values, try to find a free version of the moral foundations test.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:58 PM
1

There will never be true equality in any marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:57 PM
2

The reality is that few men can really lead well Yeah, about 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:55 PM
1

"I'm not like other girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:54 PM
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Take a better test is my recommendation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:54 PM
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It's also no better than astrology. If you want insight into your personality, take the Big 5 at openpsychometrics.org If you want insight into your values, take the moral foundations test. If you are going for other personality tests, like the Myers-Briggs for example, you might as well go over to pottermore and figure out your Hogwarts house. Just as useful but more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:53 PM
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Unfortunately true. Gonna get worst next year when augmented reality really takes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:49 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:47 PM
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Women aren't visually stimulated like men. They don't have to pay physical dollars to satisfy their sexual strategy at all. When they do, it's normally in the form of narrative content. But the illusion of hypergamy can be satisfied through personal relationships. Men cannot imitate polygyny through personal relationships unless they are just a ridiculous outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:43 PM
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Absolutely correct. Now, as far as past sexual experiences influencing my sexuality, no. I want to do what I want to do. If I want to do something, and you don't want to do it, but you did it with your ex, buh-bye. It's important as a guy that you be her sexual best, and that she gives you her sexual best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:38 PM
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This is fantasy and just spin. If men are hornier based on the visual alone, than by definition the visual of women is better looking. Even straight women will have an easier time pointing our attractive women than attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:28 PM
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It's not revenge fantasy and I don't think it reflects the point of view. Women still have an easier time finding dates/relationships (on average) in their 30s+ vs their male counterparts. True. Facts. Indisputable. Perhaps RP is hyperbolic. And perhaps doomers are just haters. It is reddit, after all. But you will see the same dudes assert that an average girl is still going to have more options than a HVM. It's just the nature of the beast. The truth is that men peak at a later age than women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:25 PM
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I agree with you. I'm just spitting the facts, not complaining about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:55 PM
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Most normal people don’t think about these things though Not sure what you mean by this. I've seen the data showing that men with a history of cheating are more likely to divorce, but not one that shows a significant difference based on N-count. Though I'm not closed to that being a possibility. Not saying that data doesn't exist, but the data on women is pretty damn solid. It's not like a one-off study. It's shown time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:23 PM
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Getting married is an irrelevant measure. Staying married is what's important, and the data contradicts your lived experience on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:16 PM
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As its become more commoditized, the pareto distribution exacerbates. I.e. Income inequality but for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:15 PM
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ITT: "But women care about N-count in men too!" That's nice. I'm sure the high N-count men who are consistently getting laid are going to cry themselves to sleep trying to figure out how to become more valuable to women. Again, and again, we have to come back to this. Okay: Even if a guy is unattractive to most women, he will be okay if he is attractive to a large minority of women. Therefore, even if it were true that most women would rule out a serious relationship with a former fuckboi (which…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:40 PM
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No. Depends on the guy but personally, I would not next a woman who is waiting because she's a virgin and that conforms with her values. The best thing for you to do is to meet a guy who matches your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:18 PM
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No. It's more accurate to say "20% of men are having the vast majority of the sex." Kind of like how a small percentage of the population owns the vast majority of the wealth. Sex is subject to pareto distribution just like most anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:52 PM
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Correct. We're talking about the casual dating market. Excluding married men. Most men are not incels, but most men aren't having sex regularly. They are having months or years long dry spells. 20% of single men are getting 80% of the girls, as a rough estimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:44 PM
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White people definitely hate each other for dating out more than black people hate each other I'm not doubting your experience, and I didn't claim whites experience zero stigma whatsoever, so you can cut that shit now. But the claim that its worse with whites is objectively false. And basically no race as a whole "likes it." Asians, latinos, black, white. Hell, if you think you had it bad, wait until you learn the shame mexican girls experience when they date black dudes. Admittedly that's going…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:50 PM
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Reality. It only makes sense in theory. It's not harder to get a job in reality. And the theory itself is based on a heavily skewed version of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:46 PM
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Right but then you responded to my comment with a question that just seemed odd to me. I suppose if you aren't from the USA I would understand the question better. But as I said, it's a trope that goes back decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:44 PM
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You'd imagine that but its false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:34 PM
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Markets don't compute with feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:34 PM
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Choose whatever word you want. What do you think "Once you go black, you don't go back" is trying to communicate? It's a cheeky way of saying that black men are better lovers, and once you have one, you will swear off white men entirely. Why do I have to explain this, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:26 PM
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You are misunderstanding the 80/20 rule a little bit. It's not that women find 20% of men attractive. Individual women find well under 20% of men attractive. But the top 20% of men are actually having sex. They have options; a larger pool of women to choose from. A guy in the top 20% likely won't be attractive to most women. But he will be attractive to more women than the vast majority of men. This calculation changes based on region, culture, industry, social circle, and demographic as well. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:23 PM
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The reverse is not true. Most white men hate black women and are grossed out by the idea of dating a bw Not true at all. Plenty of white dudes would hook up with a bw as long as she's attractive. They just happen to be less attractive on average due to obesity rates and single motherhood. But put a beautiful bw in front of me and I won't hesitate. But regarding the reverse, it's largely cultural. The idea of "corrupting" or "turning" white women in the US has been fetishized for decades. Not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:15 PM
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Let's say the theory is true and society gave men a leg up for millennia until now Well, the theory is bunk so...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:54 PM
1

Very easily. Females tend toward disqualification, men toward the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:53 PM
1

You didn't say anything. You just threw up you're emotions. I guess I can define RP for everybody and your mama too. Yes, you clearly want to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:34 PM
2

No. He can't help the fact that resources attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:23 PM
1

It doesn't work like that. People don't do the "options" calculation on a conscious level. Abundance mindset is something you have or you don't. The guy who is loyal and doesn't have options very likely won't cheat. He has oneitis for his woman regardless of how she treats him, and he's going to be risk-averse. He can't truly predict how he would react if a woman propositioned him, because it's not something he's experienced, nor is he expecting to experience. Even if he came across the opportun…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:22 PM
1

You're hysterical
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:07 PM
1

They have a good relationship with their Father Her parents are still together and married Green flags for sure. It's important that she has a positive view of masculinity, and has an innate appreciation for not just men, but what it takes to be virtuous and masculine. None of this applies really if she has a weak father. It might. But if her father impresses you, that's a good sign. She has the same positive traits her mother has Kinda hard to tell if you aren't in an LTR already. You should al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:46 PM
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Nobody said women spent their "entire day nurturing." So right off the bat you can tell whatever you're about to say is wrong. I don't know who you're repeating here but it's fiction. Before 1950, before widely accessible formula, the pill, washing machines and dryers, sanitary napkins, etc. what exactly do you believe women were doing if not making the home? Think we were all holding hands on a commune? Men didn't work as farmers, therefore they just had free time to do w/e? I take it you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:59 PM
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It's not "far more" and the increase in female infidelifty over the years is quite substantial. Anecdotally if you talk to relationship counselors, they'll tell you that they see no difference in their practice. All of the data is literally self-reported surveys. So, in reality, the headline is, "Why do men admit to cheating marginally more than women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:12 PM
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What have I said that you regard as deranged?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:06 PM
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Because we aren't blank slates, and we trend in certain directions in part due to how we evolved. i.e. we aren't equal and that's not a bad thing. Men are more likely to work 60 hour weeks, women are more likely to nurture and make the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:04 PM
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No they don't according to Christ but w/e. Apparently you do believe in weird internet ideas since you just recited a few. I know, you've been taught to not like the "weird internet ideas" you engage with on the internet. But you literally adhere to the bible, which is literally the OG RP document if ever existed one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:52 PM
1

W/e you say, Cathy Newman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:08 PM
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"I want no conscription which is why I'm calling on you good people to demand more of it"
/r/MensRights02/12/21 05:04 PM
1

It's always been slavery and you love it
/r/MensRights02/12/21 05:03 PM
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Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound? You are literally pro-slavery in the name of equality. One of us wants no conscription, you want equal conscription. Yeah... I'm the champion for liberty in this conversation.
/r/MensRights02/12/21 04:38 PM
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If you don't buy into the comforting lies, you're RP. Generally, if you unironically utter the phrase "happy wife happy life!" as Christian men often do, you're BP. If you believe in "equal partnership," as opposed to complementarianism, you're BP. If you believe in a soulmate, you're BP. If you believe that looks don't matter, you're BP. If you believe a man's earning potential doesn't matter, you're BP. If you don't buy into those things, you're RP. That's all it takes. Simple as that. Christi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:37 PM
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"I want more slavery" say the champions of equality.
/r/MensRights02/12/21 04:33 PM
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Conscription is slavery?
/r/MensRights02/12/21 04:30 PM
-1

As is the case with bluepilled people generally. Nobody chooses a "pill." It's just a euphemism for whether or not you are buying into comforting lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:29 PM
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Theyre against marriage, monogamy, having kids. I’d rather be with traditional man who is masculine and not a whiney depraved child like those dudes are. This is RP as fuck and RP isn't universally against marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:05 PM
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I.e. "I'm bluepilled"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:04 PM
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"Let's draft women too" say the champions of equality...
/r/MensRights02/12/21 03:59 PM
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This appears to be a strawman tbh. Never heard anyone say anything remotely close to this.
/r/MensRights02/12/21 03:58 PM
1

Or better yet "Male suicide is up. Here's why that's a problem for women"
/r/MensRights02/12/21 02:56 PM
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There is a side of all of this that is anti-marriage. That's where you are getting the contradiction. These guys don't have the same goals as women, so its really a messaging problem. I am a fairly pro-marriage guy, but even I find it increasingly difficult to sell marriage today in the west. But to clarify the pro-marriage side of things, it depends on where you source the women. On here, there are plenty of guys who have said they don't mind waiting if its clearly a part of a woman's values. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:45 PM
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"Settling down" vs "settling for"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:35 PM
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Is there studies out there that shows they end their relationships then marry up???? Not sure how often they end up in relationships that better satisfy hypergamy, but there are quite a few studies showing they end their relationships and marriages, i.e. the chance of divorce increases anywhere between 30-50% (this was a U. of Chicago School of Business study), one study showing that women will exaggerate their husband's salary if she earns more (and downplay her own), studies on the concept of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:16 PM
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You claim this somehow refutes hypergamy ("men's idea that women go for the top 1%"), which it doesn't because female breadwinners end their relationships more often than not. Not sure how you missed the point tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:24 PM
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I have seen and known several women who are making significantly more money then their S/O and its happening more and more. Check out how many female breadwinners there are in 2021 compared to 2000 Doesn't matter if they get divorced or break up, which a betting man would count on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:56 PM
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Honestly, if you’re getting ridiculous sex from your wife, do you really care what she did before you? Ignore the data and ignore common sense. Sorry, not going to happen. If she's giving me good sex but I found out she got gangbanged by 4 dudes before we met, I'm dropping her like a sack of hammers. But to be honest I'm not making her my wife unless I have an idea about her past, which leads to this: There are apparently people who feel they just have to know every single detail of their partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:55 PM
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It's always shocking to me when women are shocked to learn that men and women are different. They've been raised to believe we are equal since birth, so they have to learn the hard way that we are turned on by different things. "Men are aroused by women flaunting their figure!? But women aren't like that, so how can men be like that!?" Women confuse their biological imperative with virtue. In OP's mind, men are morally inferior because they don't have the innate sexual responses that women do. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:17 PM
1

Like maybe you shower Bro wut? What kind of men do you have in your life? "Woah a shower huh? What's the occasion?" Anyway, yeah. I'm not jumping through hoops, but I would definitely try to impress a girl I like. Now, "try to impress" isn't actually something I'm fond of saying, because it really comes off as being desperate, or trying too hard, maybe even simping. But I would put in more effort for a girl I actually like. Does "more effort" mean what FDS thinks it means? Probably not. If I lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:37 PM
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Man here: Woman #1 if I have to choose. But "sexually experienced" is a turnoff in an LTR. However, given that woman #1 is described as being in my frame, she's already far superior to woman #2. She would have to quit her bartending gig, and their would undoubtedly be some bad habits she'd need to break to make the LTR work. Worst case scenario, she's a very fun girlfriend that maybe doesn't work out. Worst (and likely) case scenario with #2 is that she tries to emasculate you. This one wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:49 PM
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How common is it for a man to only feel sexually attracted when in love with someone? Is it impossible to hope that I can get into a relationship with someone of the same type of attraction I experience? Men and women are not the same, honey. I happen to be someone who does not feel attracted to others when I'm already in love with one person You aren't weird. This is how women experience the world when hypergamy is satisfied. Men are not hypergamous. Our biology is different, our physiology is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:41 PM
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They are literally taught from birth to expect this, and they are taught that you can be friends with men who want to fuck you. It's not as much naivety from lack of experience, it's part of the social programming which teaches them to ignore the evidence in front of their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:38 PM
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Believe it. Women remain naive much longer than men. You have 30+ year old feminists, most of the legitimate adherents of which are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:58 PM
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It might work if they were deeply religious women, too. But they aren't. Their religion is feminism. The only kind of HVM I can imagine would tolerate that waiting shit is a religious young HENRY, but he's not going to put up with the fempowerment BS, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:05 AM
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Actually those women do need advice I think. Imagine being one of the most beautiful women on earth. How do you navigate life without being utterly detached from what real life is like for most people? I would imagine their expectations become too skewed for a stable LTR or marriage. Even if they're able to live out their life having everything paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:02 AM
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And that's a checkmate EDIT: Saving this comment btw
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:51 AM
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FDS is not for the hot 20 yo blond sorority chick from the suburbs who dates the frat President. Exactly. Its for that girl ten years later, before she becomes a depressed wine aunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:46 AM
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This is the problem with the false equivalency on this sub. You can say that RP is pseudo-scientific. You can say RP has a delivery problem on reddit because frankly a bunch of blackpillers opine on its behalf. However, The problem with FDS literally is the content. There is really not much in the way of actionable advice, and none of their terms are defined in a tangible way. Not the case with RP, where every one of the buzz words has a fairly specific definition attached to it. The problem wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:45 AM
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Naivety is a turnoff for me. Either she knows the orbiters are pining for her affection, and she's willingly keeping them on a leash, OR she's totally naïve to their desires. If dating is a football game, your wife keeping the orbiters around is effectively her staying on the field while you've left the field. Therefore, if she's going to have orbiters, take that as her being cool with you having a plate or two. I don't need to mate guard, but I don't need to engage with women further who don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:41 PM
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Well, if he thinks every girl is a hoe, then that's his problem and she's better off without him. So waiting is doing it's job: Vetting out men who make shitty boyfriends. He doesn't think every girl is a hoe, just girls like her. So then they get vetted out. You go, girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:46 PM
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I have found my Myspace profile plenty of times. Cringe galore!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:36 AM
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When you are a teenager, lets be honest, you feel like you are literally the only person embarrassed ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:35 AM
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I wouldn’t wait for a woman who only makes YOU wait but eagerly had sex with her past boyfriends. Yes. I love how this is spun into punishment. You aren't punishing anybody, you are simply making decisions based on what's best for you. But because of solipsism, it must somehow be about her. I can pay over $100 for a steak, or a few hundred for a meal, at a nice restaurant. I'm not paying that price at Chili's. Am I punishing Chili's? Do I refuse to pay hundreds of dollars at Chili's because I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:17 AM
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This has not been my experience the single dads I know.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 02:20 AM
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If man does bad thing, I must do stupid thing and die.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 02:18 AM
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This isn’t true. You can’t tell how a girl is sexually by how she acts in a non-sexual setting Please. You can't guarantee, but you can get a solid guess. The whole "BuT i KnEw A qUiEt FrEaK" meme needs to die. Yes, yes, we have all met religious girls who have been total sluts. I guess that means you can bank on girls who dress and act like sluts being total Madonnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:16 AM
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Holding women accountable=blaming them for getting raped
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:08 AM
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This might be true... Hence the police. This literally happened when I was a kid. Dad had a right to see me, and I didn't want to go. My mom told him to leave, and he showed up with the Sheriff's dept. and I had to go with dad.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 01:06 AM
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. An armed man tells you to GTFO of his property, you GTFO. Like you said, the police handle this shit. It's usually the sheriffs dept.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 01:04 AM
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There is literally nothing that can be said that would change your mind. There's literally no logical reasoning in this entire paragraph. There's not one single piece of data to back up your claims, only your emotions. Meanwhile, data to the contrary has been posted ad nauseum. Nobody thinks that zero men care about money. We are aware of the existence of broke men, unambitious men, men who aren't leaders, simps, bluepilled, and feminist men. Here's the thing: women don't want those guys. Every …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:41 AM
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Hold up, while I don't doubt false rape allegations are on the rise, public schools have been hotbeds of sexual abuse for decades. The sex abuse in schools far surpasses the church's sex abuse scandal, but the corporate media ignores it. To say nothing of the cover ups.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 12:29 AM
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Okay Derrick Jaxn. Plenty of guys don't have a problem "waiting" a reasonable amount of time, Just not going to wait for a girl they think is a hoe, or think she was a hoe. And they aren't going to wait if they think it's a power play (FDS shit). Consider the space. A ton of these guys do not have any interest in marriage, so that's going to skew the perspective. If you aren't interested in marriage, by what logic would you expect to wait for sex? Some guys are going to be religious, and some no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:18 PM
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"If he doesn't think I'm worth the wait he's not high value"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:09 PM
1

is just turning what should be a happy and healthy partnership into an adversarial business contract. No its not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:22 PM
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I attribute my success to 4 primary things: Shared values Maintaining frame Consistent personal improvement Setting standards in the very beginning about "letting ourselves go." I made it very clear that I'm not getting fat, and if she did, I wouldn't have sex with her. She has no problem with this standard, and the only reason a woman would have a problem with it is if she's banking on you accepting her getting lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:45 PM
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You can as long as you aren't a bum. My wife homeschools our son, cooks great food, stays looking sexy, and rarely nags. I don't need another provider to #powercouple with, nor do I want one. I want a woman to offer a touch of feminine energy in my home, and pass on my values/be a mother to my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:02 PM
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I guys its better than being a bumbling idiot father who defers all decision making to his "better half" . . . its sad that the options are over the top bully and doofus
/r/MensRights23/11/21 05:36 PM
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I'm not saying to jump to that conclusion
/r/RPChristians23/11/21 03:12 PM
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Is divorce totally out of the question for you? I'm not saying to jump to that conclusion, but if its not off the table, it should be brought up as a possibility. I think the worst thing you can do is comply with negotiating desire; trying to win back her affections through choreplay and validating complements. You say you powerlift. Understandably, powerlifters typically pack on more meat. I recommend taking a break from the powerlifting diet/routine and cut down your bodyfat percentage if its …
/r/RPChristians22/11/21 04:54 PM
3

Actually, according to studies I've seen, woman seek out humor. I.e. according to what women say. Divorce rates skyrocket when a woman earns more than her man. "Humor" in this case is just game tbh. Make a girl laugh without coming off as a clown. And someone taller that her Yes. Being kind is also rated high There is legitimately no way to study this aside from asking women. Of course they are going to rate kindness very high. But if it mattered in any way, the most agreeable men would get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:24 PM
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Men are not intrinsically attractive to women. Women are more or less intrinsically attractive to men. Pretty much sums it up perfectly. It's honestly a pretty immature question. "Why do I have to put in effort to reap reward?" Not to mention, it's not like these low-paying, low-status jobs are supremely enjoyable or flexible. You are inevitably a man with limited independence. You're the low-end of wage slave; a beast of burden under a petty tyrant. You have almost no control over your own sche…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:22 PM
1

How on Earth have I gone this long without raping someone? After all, my dad never sat me down and had the "consent" talk!
/r/MensRights19/11/21 11:05 PM
1

All types of men use online dating because men have to cast a wider net in order to get options. The idea that losers use OLD is pretty stupid. Yeah, losers are on OLD. But also, the most successful men in the dating market use multiple OLD platforms. "What a loser pulling a ton of chicks! Such an awkward creep!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:56 PM
1

For those interested in the premise being dunked on. Relevant short, probably wear headphones if you're at work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:53 PM
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I agree. Women in the workplace have been coddled beyond belief, and it's a detriment to competent professional women, who don't need to rely on extremely liberal dress codes and "women in X" feelgood groups. Guys have had a pretty uniform dress code in the office for decades. Women routinely incorporate modern fashion and individual expression into the workplace, to say nothing of inherently sexual attire (Black yoga pants to work? Really?) Yet, who are you more likely to hear bitch and moan ab…
/r/MensRights19/11/21 05:50 PM
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Yeah this isn't a normal female reaction. She's got issues. Women have insecurities, and women are shallow (not complaining), but she seems to be on the extreme end of one/both of those metrics. She's extremely insecure and projecting and/or she's extremely shallow. Either way, this is a future ex-wife type of reaction. There's a reason this caught you off guard dude. It's genuinely abnormal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:05 PM
1

Broken clocks and blind squirrels
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:52 PM
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Well this is the popular claim for sure, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Attempts to "destigmatize" mental health have not only been rampant over the past 2 decades (or more), but successful. Even encouraged. Access to mental health is at an all time high. Men actively seeking treatment is at an all time high.... Yet, the suicide rate is increasing year after year. Will people like you, who perpetuate the myth of male vulnerability ever change their mind, however? Doubtful. The answer will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:57 PM
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Hate FDS but they aren't wrong. If your therapy isn't temporary, that's a problem. If it is temporary, you can wait until you have your shit sorted out mentally before you start seriously dating. And if you are in therapy for a non-serious mental issue, then stop going to therapy, go to the gym, and listen to Jocko Willinck. The only medication you need is a therapeutic dose of DISCIPLINE, and supplement your diet with GETTING AFTER IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:40 PM
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Both sexes can and should be judged based on their past. Nearly everyone would agree that a history of bad behavior would be a valid reason for ruling someone out as a SO, e.g. crime, cheating. This is because past behavior is informative. It's not rational to say that past behavior is up for scrutiny except sexual behavior. It's one of the most important aspects of a loving relationship. It's also not rational to use the exact same standards to judge men and women. The idea that they should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:41 PM
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Men's issues=issues we have with men, namely, their existence.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 04:16 PM
1

Women will say: A guy whose a never had a girlfriend at 30 is a red flag. After all if no wanted to wanted to date him till 30, there was probably something wrong with him. They aren't necessarily wrong. Men will say: "A lady who has a high body count is promiscuous and therefore less likely to be loyal. She can't stick to one man after all." Idk about the truth of the last sentence but the data would support the overarching claim. You haven't really pointed out anything hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:58 PM
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I have read probably 10 comments in the past few days calling it hypocritical to have a different standard for men and women with regard to sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:13 PM
2

"I'm rubber you're glue" Almost as clever as John Oliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:44 PM
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Why are you people sending your kids into the clutches of these depraved lunatics.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 04:42 PM
1

You could just read the literature and draw your own conclusions. It doesn't make sense to debate otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:40 PM
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I wouldn't recommend the subreddit at all tbh. Anyways, read The Game by Neil Strauss, The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi, The Tactical Guide to Women by Dr. Shawn Smith, and No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover. Note about The Game: This is an older PUA book, so the "tactics" are dated as far as I am aware ("you can spot somebody who's read The Game a mile away"), but the commentary on sexuality, arousal, and mindset remain relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:38 PM
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No, you can just tell the experiences of people. narcissists believe the rest of the world operates according to "their truth." E.g. "I haven't had problems in my life with my exes, therefore only naive young'uns could possible believe staying in contact with your ex would be a problem." Unfortunately, the reality for the rest of the world is that staying in touch with an ex is a no-no for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:29 PM
1

More than 10 or 11 is technically worse and it gets worse as it goes up. Of the lower than 5-bodies women, 2 seems to have the worst outcomes for some reason. But I'm not sure if that number includes the spouse or not. Either way, it's easier to alpha widow 1 body than a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:26 PM
1

Modern women look down upon minimum wage earning women. Don't believe me? Wait until one of these average or high-earning women get left for a woman without a job, or with a low-paying job. See how the tune changes from "I don't look down on poor people" to "He left me for some dumb bitch working at Kroger!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:23 PM
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It's almost as if men and women perceive and experience sex differently, rendering it naïve and unhelpful to expect identical standards or consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:21 PM
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Slut shaming isn't rudeness because all it means is speaking truth. If you speak the truth about promiscuity anonymously online isn't rude whatsoever. In no way are you personally accosting someone or affecting their life or reputation in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:01 PM
2

Indeed. You do have to pay extra for that. But I found it to be a fairly worthwhile tradeoff when it works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:56 PM
1

Certainly not more common than not. What you mean is that its more common than millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:47 PM
1

You know how many midwits out there fancy themselves "intelligent?" How many intelligent feminists are there? Actually quite a few. It's easier to train a smart dog than a dumb one, so many college educated women leave school regurgitating the same ideas as every other feminist 115.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:07 PM
1

Mi'lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:34 PM
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Even if I agreed with that, I wouldn't entrust the education to public schools.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 04:30 PM
1

Well we cant rule out the idea that you might be unattractive, in which case you wouldn't be an anomaly. But assuming you and your friends are normal, yes, you would be an anomaly as a group of non-Christian virgins in college. Your bubble gives you the idea that there are many college-age, secular virgins out there. The data (literal truth) shows that you and your friends are a small minority of college females. But by and large, the average woman today is both exposed to and exercising more op…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:38 PM
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They mention how women can have sex with whoever whenever; that we have broad options; that women today are more promiscuous than ever and are spoilt in options and are picky with them Its literally true. What do you disagree with? virgin (I hate using that word) Why? the rest of us haven’t even had our first kiss or a boyfriend. You are an anomaly. So are we outliers in my bubbled world Yes. Are RP truths overstated on reddit? Yes. Many blackpillers masquerade as RP to avoid bans. See rule #11.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:24 PM
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I wouldn't consider a crush a friend tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:28 PM
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Agreed. This chick would have kissed him whether he asked or not. If you think she "melted on the spot" because he asked, as opposed to the prospect of physical intimacy with a man she desired, you are naive. Now, like all things, "it depends." The motivation matters. If you are sincerely asking permission because you are unsure of her desire: bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:24 PM
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I really don't think simping works in reverse. I understand simping to explicitly be how a desperate male treats a female. A woman in those shoes is simply giving IOIs. The female reverse would be a booty call. A woman is desperate for a relationship with a guy, that she can't see (or refuses to see) that the man isn't interested in a relationship with her in the slightest. She gives the sex in hopes of forming a relationship. A male simp gives relationship in hopes of getting the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:48 PM
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Nobody needs to be explicitly taught consent. This is feminist garbage (might be a tautology) Public schools have been "reigning in" the "aggressiveness" of boys for decades, to the detriment of boys. Even if I agreed with that premise, why would I trust public schools to do this? Boys need to learn how to grow into men, which is accomplished best by example. Mediocre adults at the front of the class are not suited to the task. They will write your son off as a problem child and recommend medica…
/r/MensRights15/11/21 04:44 PM
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Between men and women, who benefits more from the expediency, convenience, and efficiency of dating apps? Obviously men. Therefore, more men on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:31 PM
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Sounds like ol' boy wasn't aroused by his wife anymore. In my experience, this can be attributed to porn, or she just let herself go. A man doesn't go a year without getting off. So her husband would rather jack off than fuck his wife. She doesn't bring up her weight. I've seen too many women just pack it on post marriage. Sorry hun, lingerie only works if I'm aroused by you. Notice also how she describes herself going into the marriage, "dumb brainwashed christian girl." Sounds like she's done …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:02 AM
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Stop, please stop. Have you looked at "milf" pornstars? First of all, some of these "MILFs" start doing "stepmom" scenes in their late twenties. Second, they're literally manufactured to look far younger than they really are. Sorry, most 45 year old women don't look like Brandi Love. The reason people like these flavors of pornography has little to do with IRL kinks. This is like saying that guys who watch incest porn are incest. No, they don't literally want to fuck their sister. It's just conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:47 PM
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I.e. "You should be grateful because she chose you over the thundercock" Yeah there's a difference between being chosen and being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:28 PM
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If you are settling for being settled for, you have no self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:24 PM
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I think it comes down to perverse incentives in academia. First, if your findings aren't significant, you are incentivized to make them sound more significant because that's what will be more likely to get published. Second, this is compounded by a clickbait media, that will exaggerate your exaggerated findings. Most people don't read past the headline, therefore, FDS is spiking the football because they can read a headline and confirm their disconnected worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 05:13 PM
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No its not normal. Yes I would encourage him. No, it wouldn't change my answer. I think young guys should go out in public to cold approach, even if they aren't going to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:26 PM
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FDS is not dialed into reality. There was one comment with any degree of insight. I only find bald to go well with muscular built physique, no other option. Otherwise it just looks inadequate an gives me a feeling the man is ill/unwell. That's true. If you are the type to own going bald, as I am, you have to dial in your diet and fitness (yet, these same women will shame you for being a "gym bro," as if a muscular/built physique is something you just buy at Walmart). with regard to this thread: …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:25 PM
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If we're talking about "confidence" specifically and not arrogance, vanity, or pride, men tend to be more confident than women. I'm not going to lie, I'm not sure I trust this sub with this discussion tbh. You can't ever suggest men are more anything unless you say men are more bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:49 PM
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(Also, appealing to drunk women really shouldn't be your goal. It's extremely dodgy, and I'm not even sure why women would like tattoos more when drunk.) Women are more social and open when drunk, and tats are a convenient icebreaker. If you frequent bars/clubs, you can't really be picky about drunk chicks. It's not dodgy at all. People drink. People who drink also date. It's just reality. but overall it can't be expected to give you more sex/relationships/whatever Of course it can. It's literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:41 PM
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Not really. It already has a name. Madonna/Whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:32 PM
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That's bluepill simplification. Will they make you more attractive? IMO, no. Will they raise your SMV, especially in the short term? Yes. Without a doubt. There is a large minority of women who are straight-up turned on by tattoos, and a separate minority of women who are intrigued by tattoos, but don't specifically select for them. An average guy with an average build can go from being "meh" at getting laid, to suddenly standing out in a crowd, having a convenient icebreaker, and more important…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:28 PM
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This claim just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 05:58 PM
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Oh they're here. They're the "Yeah but what about men though?" crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 05:56 PM
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Depends on why she is crying. My wife is definitely a crier, and sometimes she will cry for pretty silly reasons. When she does, I comfort her. If she starts crying during an argument, situation dictates how I react. Does she comfort me when I cry? Well, I'm not a crier, but yeah. My dog died, I cried, and she comforted me. No big deal. There are times and places where it's appropriate for men to cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 04:40 PM
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I think you are missing the point of the saying. It specifically applies to how women interact with men. Yes, watch what men do, its something that applies across the board because its an indication of dishonesty. The difference is that you can usually rely on a man to be pretty honest about what he finds arousing, Looks, the visual, etc. If a guy has a certain preference, he will make it known. And women are far less reliable in stating what they find arousing. A woman will often say, "X-trait …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 04:36 PM
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I can have an assertive, dominant personality and be totally unapologetic about it. I can also use genetics, common sense, and even religion to explain why this is not just okay, not just natural, but preferable. I don't know why people want to pretend that literally every structure is "merely" a social construct. I don't "have to use religion" to justify a relationship structure that predates my religion. I can, but I don't have to. I don't have to justify having a submissive wife, who makes my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:54 PM
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There are two theoretical reasons that the cold approach is an important tool for men You stand out in an increasingly online, nonsocial culture It conditions resistance to rejection, and gets rid of anxiety. Much of the awkwardness you see with approaching women comes from anxiety, not knowing what to say, etc. Whether or not approaching "in the streets" is effective, I'm not sure. I'm admittedly not the most savvy when it comes to pickup. But if I opine on the topic, I think targeting women fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:37 PM
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I think this is deranged tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:47 PM
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It isn't even that women are told by everyone that they need to be pretty. I've literally never heard someone say this to a little girl. What they receive is praise and positive reinforcement for being pretty. Positive reinforcement is actually a far more effective conditioning method than telling a child what they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:44 PM
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Sure because we all know that narcissists rarely get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:00 PM
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Thanks. this is true. But just as important in my comment is the idea that this is not an intentional act by women. In this way, they are not being "dishonest," but they are reflexively protecting themselves from judgment. The easiest example of women being shallow is their natural classism, which I don't fault them for. No woman is going to say "my most shallow turnoff is men is having a low paying, low status job." That would actually be true. Definitionally, it's shallow, and its a turnoff. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:41 PM
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Many things are not rocket science, but are also not common knowledge either. Changing a tire Changing oil replacing a hard drive Chopping wood Mowing a lawn Gardening Lifting weights Unless someone teaches you what it means for clothes to "clash," or what a proper fit looks like, your comment is just unhelpful. It's like me telling a Zoomer "it's not rocket science, just loosen the lug nuts and jack the car up." The chances they know where to find a jack, or where to place it under the car, are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:31 PM
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I'm not saying she's shit testing anyone here, which is obvious. How you got that impression is beyond me. Plenty of "standards" on a woman's list of "must-haves" are merely shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:30 PM
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What are fairly mainstream conservative views according to the heads on your TV?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:58 PM
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I'm not sure where exactly you disagree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:45 PM
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Smells like more of a shit test to me. "Oh the perfect wealthy handsome man came along but I passed because ew night shift" Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:44 PM
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I mean when I worked night shift, it was Sun-Thurs, 11-7. Some people go 12-8. Why would you need to access someone while you are sleeping? I'm no judging your standards I really just want to know if the ability to contact your boyfriend on your lunch break is a dealbreaker? Because that's not even guaranteed if they work a 9-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:30 PM
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That's because women have a difficult time being self-critical. Women naturally, and for good reason, aim to present themselves as the kinder, more understanding, and less shallow sex. I think it's done unintentionally. E.g. Reflexively presenting a reasonable expectation as your "shallow turnoff" It's the equivalent of saying "My biggest weakness at work is being a perfectionist."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:23 PM
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I've never heard someone call that shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:20 PM
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I thought this was a reference to oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:19 PM
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What if they work graveyard and sleep during 9-5 hours, and you have the same access to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:18 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:15 PM
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I didn't say Romney was a left winger. And he was against Trump until he thought Trump would give him a job, then he was a perfect little lapdog. Then he didn't get the job, was mocked, and guess what? He flipped on Trump, just like he has flipped on literally every issue under the sun. He's not conservative, he's just a suit with an R. If you hear "Right Wing" and the people who come to mind are Romney and McCain, you're just bluepilled. And most people are. There's a reason Romney is so widely…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:12 PM
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I'm referring to serious relationship here, not casual, but... Wearing leggings as pants. I actually prefer no yoga pants, either. With regard to something casual, I really couldn't care less what is worn, and pretty much the only thing that would matter is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:52 PM
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Republican voters are nearly all to the right of Mitt Romney, who really can't be described as having an ideology in any meaningful sense of the word. The commenter you are replying to is a lefty looking for a fellow lefty, full-stop. And frankly, that's fine, their prerogative. Romney has literally taken both sides of every issue throughout his career. He's regularly mocked by most right wingers, and wouldn't win a primary in any state today outside of the ol' Mormon capital. It's just odd to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:43 PM
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Black is a slimming color too. Most guys aren't wearing them, either, so you're more likely to stand out in theory, and it just looks classier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:25 PM
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White men don't have to worry about haircuts as often because of the way our hair lays. When I was active duty, most white guys would just spend 8 bucks on base once a month, maybe even every other month. The black dudes? Most would spend the extra dough to go off base and find the best barber they could. An uneven/lopsided fade is so much more noticeable on black men. Us whities can gel, style, and/or combover to compensate for a less than stellar fade. Often, white guys don't even notice if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:22 PM
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Actionable advice right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:16 PM
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She's right. Women don't want to explain these things to you, they want you to just "get it." Which is why we always tell men to ask the hunter, not the deer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:14 PM
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What should I wear to look better? Just look better bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:13 PM
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Dear God
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:13 PM
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Works 1/3 times, guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:12 PM
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Shy and introverted isn't the same thing. They aren't interchangeable terms. Shy is literally having anxiety or fear with regard to social interaction, especially confrontation. This has nothing to do with introversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:08 PM
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This doesn't really negate anything I said, you are just being "ackshully" pedantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:04 PM
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Penis and vagina are not extremities. I don't know about other guys, but when I workout, I experience shrinkage because my blood is being directed to extremities. You can't attribute the orgasm phenomenon to adrenaline and blood pressure alone. Sexual stimulation is going to be the biggest factor. Correct that doesn't mean you secretly want it or you're closet gay. EDIT: you know what, you probably could technically consider the penis an extremity, but my point is the same. It's not used for fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:01 PM
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Devil's Advocate: If orgasm contributes to higher likelihood of conception, as I've heard theorized, than OPs conclusion about pregnancy would be a logical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:57 PM
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I didn't refute what she said, because she didn't refute what I said. She's just exaggerating basic truths to the point of absurdity. It's called Reducto ad Absurdum. Congrats on her being 16 and being able to say that absurd things, that nobody said, are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:46 PM
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It does but it doesn't go straight into the toilet, and it doesn't "tank", it drops about 1% per year for the average male. I'm not. They didn't gain an unreasonable amount of muscle in a short period of time. Cavill gained a lot of muscle quickly, but his body fat also increased. See Immortals, probably the most shredded he's ever been, under 8%. In Man of Steal, even in the sexiest screenshot, he's probably at 12%. And if you look at the training footage (again, don't go just off of the movie …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:44 PM
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And not to mention, some people can literally be gym rats and see shit results. Could be diet, could be routine, could be genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:02 PM
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Personality, looks, money, status, context, her mood at the time of meeting, etc. all play into a woman's arousal. Women will literally call attractive men ugly just to make a point. For men, it's almost exclusively about the physical. Yes, we know certain personalities can be turn offs for men, but there are plenty of men who can easily have sex with annoying chicks, or even chicks they hate. A woman would have a very hard time having sex with a man she thinks is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:23 PM
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On what earth is that a natural growth rate unless we assume he was training as hard as he could for 6 straight years? That's pretty damn reasonable. How is this the pictures you use? They prove my point not yours. The dude was also very muscular in Not Another Teen Movie. First pic is chilling with a carpet on his chest with lighting at his back, no pump. the other is 6 years later, shaved chest, dehydrated, post-pump, downlighting, and behind a camera. 60 lbs in 6 months isn't unreasonable at …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:52 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:43 PM
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I don't use the term aggressive. Male children are not stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:43 PM
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If someone could achieve a great body naturally, that's pretty much exactly how they'd do it. That's not at all how they would do it naturally, because it would be significantly less effective. That's a terrible schedule and a terrible diet model. It's not even close to perfect. You need rest days to effectively build muscle. Guys like Frank Grillo, who is on TRT, are very honest and open about their diets. He's strict Paleo, and he has one of the best looking bodies in Hollywood. Cavil and Prat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:42 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:44 PM
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Why is that "super uncomfortable"? When I say young, I mean girls who look or are 15-18, hence the reference to "teen" porn. And I would say ask other people, it's not a truth I find uncomfortable, but one that others would shy away from. I think it's gross to actively pursue those girls, but actions are different than feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:36 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:23 PM
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I believe you. Proof is in the pudding. Fat or not, you are either more active or more attractive than you were at twenty. But, so what? I don't speak in absolutes, but generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:21 PM
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I wouldn't call it a lifestyle. It's just conditioning. To a degree, certainly. Is it equally necessary? Of course not. I'm certainly not going to shy away from tossing my daughter in the air or stop her from climbing trees. Boys and girls are not interchangeable widgets, and we aren't blank slates. We might be the blankets slates in nature, but we are still not blank slates as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:19 PM
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I'm not basing it off of what they say. I'm basing it off of their past baseline and training pics/footage, and rate of change. Why on Earth would you go solely off of what you see on screen? Also if they claim their physique was achieved through "Chicken, Broccoli and Rice, 3 hours in the gym 7 days a week" I take that as code for anabolics. And yeah if they become that lean and muscular after 35 that's a good indicator of gear usage. But Evans and Cavil have both been shredded their whole care…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:15 PM
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Stances on celebs: Evans is natty, Hemsworth is on gear, Cavil is natty, Kumail is on gear, Pratt is natty, The Rock is roided obviously. EDIT: Here's Chris Evan's in public EDIT2: Cavill on set; Great body, but he's not nearly as big as you would think if this was your only frame of reference. The way they look on camera is going to be more flattering. It's going to make them look bigger because they prep for the topless scenes by dehydrating days beforehand, flattering lighting, and getting a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:51 PM
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They don't have a male body and they don't have an understanding of what's naturally attainable for men. They see a guy like Phil Heath, and say okay that's too big. This is an absurdly large man. Ew I don't want a guy who takes steroids. They see a body like Kumail Nanjiani's, or Chris Hemsworth's, "Oh that's reasonably fit."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:48 PM
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This right here^ I think most guys should get up to being reasonably fit and then swim in a specific pool, i.e. cater to a niche. Example: A guy who's reasonably fit and is tatted to the gills is probably going to have greater abundance than an average dude who's reasonably fit, even if the tatted dude turns off a majority of women. There are a large minority of women who get turned on by that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:31 PM
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Huge difference between Chris Evans body and what's naturally attainable for most men to be fair. And he's natty in all likelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:27 PM
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Like I said, you must exaggerate and straw man to make a point. You are incapable of honest discussion because of how emotional you are. You are hysterical. " shame" implies it is not deserved No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:23 PM
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Oh this is an easy one. Scarcity mindset and a lack of outcome independence. Insecurity happens when you are literally not secure in your relationship. "Insecure" as a label is usually just a shaming tactic. But a guy who feels insecure worries about losing the girl through some fault of his own. He wants to keep the relationship going despite his better judgment, and gets anxiety as a result. A man who is literally secure in this relationship will feel one of three ways: Not care because he doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:17 PM
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Sweet summer child. You can shame all you want, reality isn't going to change for you. Notice how you literally can't address what's being said when you try to make a point? With both myself and the other user, you have resorted to straw manning. You can't even have an honest conversation with people, yet you fancy yourself the arbiter of what women universally desire? You aren't even old enough to use relevant dating apps or get into a bar, so you really don't know what you're talking about. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:00 PM
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It's not hypocritical at all. Doesn't matter what age you poll men, from 15-75, they're aroused by the exact same physical traits. The ideal age I've seen touted is 22-23 which seems to square with reality. But the super uncomfortable truth is that a lot of men do prefer the younger look, which is why "teen" is one of the most popular porn genres, and why every guy knows the name Riley Reid, who blew up by looking like a teenager. And you could argue that MILF porn is just as popular, which is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:50 PM
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it's hypocritical and misogynistic. reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:45 PM
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How's it weird? It's to be expected for these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:44 PM
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When I say child, I am talking about from the cradle. And if a boy reaches the age of 5 and he dislikes rough-housing and is "risk avoidant," then he has bad parents or an absent father. What I'm putting forward isn't negotiable, its a prerequisite for earning a healthy self-image and the confidence required to set out on your own and forge your own destiny. The kind of kid you are describing is the product of an overbearing mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:38 PM
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This is why rough-housing as a child, and gradual risk-taking, is so critical for development in boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:40 PM
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Some women are absurd with standards that don't really matter. However, sometimes it's just saying the quiet part out loud. Example: plenty of women will actively pursue guys they perceive to be at least 6' tall, while most women just want a few inches of height difference. Then there are cultural expectations of men that are actually good for us. It's good for men to protect women, and it's good for men to be stoic. The claim that men are emotionally numb is stupid. We get hype, we sing at spor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:14 PM
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So you read "not validating" and come away with "hookers are lame because they don't love you"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:59 PM
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Of course it "helps," but it's not like I would look past her past simply because she is sexually aroused by me. I wouldn't be jealous, but I would also most likely next her. That's just outcome independence, and it's the opposite of insecurity. Now the reality is that, as in all things, exceptions can be made. E.g. Her N-count is slightly higher than he's comfortable with, but dude is close to certain he's her sexual best. I wouldn't knock him for making an exception to the rule. but the higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:57 PM
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You've got this whole streak of "hookers are laaaame they don't wuvvvv you" No, you actually don't have this whole streak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:42 PM
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Truth about tats: More often than not, the wearer thinks they are wearing a sexy custom paint job. In reality, they are wearing bumper stickers. Very few people can pull off tats. But as a guy, you can actually boost your abundance by investing in being tatted up, because there are a number of women who are just into that look. Being "hit or miss" would actually be an upgrade for a lot of average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:57 PM
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I disagree with them, but they are saying that a beard specifically hiding a weak jawline is akin to makeup, not that beards are inherently makeup. The "concealment" intent is the comparison to makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:53 PM
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Meaning he got the date before you saw his Fluevogs...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:51 PM
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I don't think we actually disagree. If you are in a childfree/marriage free LTR, which is cringe outright, why would you be paying her debts? This is before sexting fatties even enters the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:41 PM
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What are you talking about? He wanted marriage and kids and she didn't. But to answer your question directly, a stupid one...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:01 PM
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First study is irrelevant, even to your claim. Second link doesn't work. Third is a sob story, debunking a strawman claim with anecdote. Where is the "trap?" You aren't good at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:00 PM
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Basically yes. Doesn't matter which angle you use to analyze the claim that bald=ugly, or the claim that women think bald=ugly, it crumbles under any degree of scrutiny. Incels are virtually the only population that thinks this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:55 PM
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It wouldn't have
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:53 PM
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Yup, a trap that you can exit at any time richer than you entered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:46 PM
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Ummm... to be honest, you might be projecting female arousal onto men. All objectively attractive celebrities are going to be attractive to virtually all men. Sure we have our preferences. Nicole Kidman and Nicki Minaj are very different types of beauty. Some men prefer Nicki, some prefer Kidman, but very few men would pass on the opportunity to sleep with either one, or both, regardless of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:44 PM
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Personally I value the real shit over grand superficial romantic gestures. For example, my wife makes my home, and homeschools my son according to shared values. I could get a new job tomorrow, move us across the country and she would view it as a new adventure to take up with me, saying "I'm down for whatever babe, just let me know." She's also making a homemade chocolate cheesecake for my birthday, which is pretty dope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:40 PM
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I mean, dudes ask for it. What kind of dude pays for a chick's degree without a guarantee that she's in it for the long haul. Or if not a guarantee, because nothing is guaranteed, perhaps some level of reassurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:33 PM
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There's a distinction between attractive and "pretty," but I don't know why the OP is calling these objectively handsome men "ugly." By definition, if women find them attractive they aren't ugly. It seems to be blackpill shit that equates baldness with ugliness by default tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:28 PM
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That's only if you compare two data points (2 partners vs "10+"), and only if you assess the 5-year divorce rate. 0, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 partners are also data points in the one study you googled. To say nothing of 10-year+ marriage survival rate. Consistently, the data shows that divorce rates increase as sexual partners increase, with 2 past sexual partners consistently being a statistical outlier. Common sense is a hell of a drug. Stop trying to manipulate men into marrying hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:24 PM
1

Trying to have the same perks as X men ignores the difference between you and him. The difference between you and him is that she was more aroused by him, but you must wait or pay extra because she is less aroused by you. If this is the case, move onto a different woman immediately, and give the girl no further time or attention. Why would you want to be with a woman who is more aroused by men from her past than you? Creating abundance fosters the dating equivalent of fuck you money. You can dit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:58 PM
1

When I said: some guys put no coins in and get pussy, and some guys will put coins in indefinitely, you read that as: I haven't learned that some people don't have to put in as much effort as other people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:44 PM
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The problem with posts like this is that they come from a place of ignorance of RP praxeology. Which is fine, its part of the reason the sub exists. But the point of these posts isn't that every woman, or even most women are lying. Most women wouldn't swipe for the Nazi guy. But who cares? Most women won't swipe for most guys, regardless of looks. There are very few, if any, men who get as many matches as average women on OLD. The point is that a Chad Neo-Nazi has more options right off the bat …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:16 PM
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My great grandfather fell ill in his 80s. Needed a wheelchair and stuff and even started losing a few marbles toward the end. My uncle was looking at the bookshelf, and came across a book titled something along the lines of "How to Have a Sex Life with Leukemia," and my great grandma saw my uncle seeing this book, and it triggered a very uncomfortable, but very hilarious interaction with my great grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:59 PM
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Yes and no. I hate our broad perception of happiness. Happiness is a fleeting emotion, so its not a reliable metric for a fulfilling life. Meaning and purpose. Can you find purpose through others? Sure. Some might say its a prerequisite 99% of the time. Even if you find meaning through your career, you are relying on providing value to others, and you are relying on others for employment, or you are relying on others patronizing your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:57 PM
1

Do men really see women like the Kardashians as wife/ girlfriend material Hell no. But do I like the look? I mean, Kim Looked way better 12-15 years ago, Kloe was trash then lost weight and now looks better, and Kourtney was always pretty cute. Kim just had a nice body but now has a diaper butt. My personal preference is under 5'3" with a booty, shape>size. I also like big boobies but if I had to choose between T and A, I'm going with A. I would rather have flat chest with nice booty than nice c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:54 PM
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Rp guy: Girls with a high N-count have significantly higher rates of divorce, can't turn a hoe into a housewife Bluepilled masses: HAHA Look at the TRADCON obsessing over virginity!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:43 PM
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Because women aren't vending machines where you put a coin and you get pussy in return. Exactly. Some guys put no coins in and get pussy, and some guys will put coins in indefinitely. She doesn't want to, so she doesn't do it, or she does it when she feels like it. Don't like it? too bad. I agree with that. No woman should do something she's uncomfortable with. That's fine, but the guy she is with should politely kick her out of his place and call a different girl that won't waste his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:36 PM
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What's presented as obvious by the bluepilled masses is regularly debunked by people diligent enough to investigate the claims. Women with high N-counts divorce more (contrary to the idea that past sexual experiences don't matter), cohabitating before marriage divorces more (contrary to the idea that you must test your cohabitating compatibility or you might find out that he doesn't put the cap on the toothpaste or some BS), women who earn more divorce more (contrary to the idea that women are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:52 PM
4

Right? How do people think this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:43 PM
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Why should a man pay extra for something another dude got for free? It must be extra special high value pussy for guy B, but cheap meh pussy for guy A.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:43 PM
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Well men are more likely to kill themselves over it, so I think men... win?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:30 PM
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As if the desirables won't pick this fruit? If VR gets to a point where the experience is truly realistic, the only women who will be worth a man's time, even "Chads," are going to be those women who out-pornstar the pornstars, or women who offer something that the man can't get from a pornstar and/or his boys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:59 PM
1

Why did you leave out "On a balance of probabilities"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:46 PM
4

Redpillers and blackpillers I doubt you could explain the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:17 PM
4

On a balance of probabilities, guys who get sex on the first night are not equally arousing as the guys who get kisses on the first night.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:08 PM
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No
/r/MensRights13/10/21 07:58 PM
2

Well, that's certainly not a denial. Fuck immediately or don’t date. This is weird. I do not hold this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:21 PM
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I didn’t always feel comfortable “fucking” right away Some guys made me feel comfortable enough to fuck right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:07 PM
2

It's going to hurt women more than men in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:37 PM
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Dude, you are so brainwashed its not funny. "University is my one ticket to make a worthy living?" Whos says this shit? You need a mentor. I can only assume your dad isn't around. If he is, go fucking talk to him and tell him exactly what you just told us.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 04:36 PM
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Nah. Women describe a nice guy, and then it turns out what they describe is a doormat. How? Because they inevitably describe a man who caters to her preferences over his own, and prioritizes feelings over reality (namely, her feelings). The way that manifests itself in her imagination is some knightly dragonslaying chad who sweeps her off her feet. The way it manifests itself in reality is a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:44 PM
1

Yup. People commit for different reasons, but only a few of those reasons have proven to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:53 PM
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It refers to a woman who still pines for an "alpha" in her past. Example: Two posts come to mind on the relationship advice sub. The first is a dude who overheard his girlfriend talking to one of her friends in the other room. Didn't hear him walk through the front door. "Oh Tommy is good in bed, but I do sometimes miss how [ex-bf] used to really throw me around." In this context, "ex-bf" was just a larger, more powerful and dominant man. He was feeling very insecure about this and proceeded to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:44 PM
2

Nope. If a friend confides in me, I just ask questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:25 PM
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How did you go broke? Gradually, then all at once. Perspective is key. Most marriages that end in divorce were doomed to fail from the start, or their was "unhappiness" (such a stupid term in this context) for a long time until a sudden event like infidelity happens. But the infidelity doesn't come out of nowhere. That's just silly. Why would a perfectly happy woman cheat? She wouldn't. She cheats because her hypergamy has been so unsatisfied for so long that she can't rationalize her marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:07 PM
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have very high standards for who they “wife up” and introduce to their mothers. How true is this? I would say for most guys, the bar is still relatively low. Gotta remember that most men have a scarcity mindset, and are taking what they can get, i.e. the path of least resistance to get the most consistent sexual access. Only three types of guys will be the exception: Men with deeply held values/morals. These guys will reject a woman who doesn't mesh with their values no matter how hot or sweet s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:36 PM
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Yeah these people are delusional. To go from having a lot of attention, which can be annoying, to getting no attention at all would drive any sane woman into a psychological crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 11:29 PM
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Yeah because a week of self-defense taught by your public school is going to stop you from being raped. Oh and yeah a week of consent class is going to turn would-be rapists into white knights. Get your kids out of these public schools. The curriculum is so obviously absurd, they despise boy behavior, and give boys and girls a skewed, immature outlook on the world that stifles creativity and personal growth.
/r/MensRights10/10/21 03:18 AM
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He will happily raise Chad's kids and declare proudly, "I'm not the step-dad, I'm the Dad who stepped up!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:28 PM
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Nah, that's just bad-faith spin. I wouldn't be aroused by that kind of woman and would just next her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:44 PM
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It actually is logical, but women aren't aroused by simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:35 PM
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If I were with a chick that didn't like choking, anal, or head I'd be out regardless of whether she gave that to her exes or not. If she refused to give it up for me, but she did give it to her exes, that could easily be a sign that she's simply less aroused by me, and feels less sexual urgency on my behalf. These acts are fairly tame when it comes to kink, it's not like I'm flogging her or spitting in her mouth. Like, this is one level up from being a missionary-only chick, and she's refusing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:33 PM
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stay mad
/r/MensRights09/10/21 07:21 PM
-4

This is entertaining to watch
/r/MensRights09/10/21 01:53 AM
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https://sti.bmj.com/content/76/6/474 https://www.webmd.com/men/news/20090325/circumcision-cuts-stds https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-10509-1 https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/119/4/821 An association between lack of male circumcision and acquisition of HIV infection was first noted in 1986.5 Over the next 10 years, more than 35 studies including ecologic, cross-sectional, case-control, and cohort studies in general and high-risk populations throu…
/r/MensRights09/10/21 12:24 AM
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The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) male circumcision policy states that while there are potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision, the data are insufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision. Since 2005, however, 3 randomized trials have evaluated male circumcision for prevention of sexually transmitted infections. The trials found that circumcision decreases human immunodeficiency virus acquisition by 53% to 60%, herpes simplex virus type 2 acquisition by 28% to 34%…
/r/MensRights08/10/21 08:03 PM
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Well, this is bordering on a fictional scenario. Very, very, very few women are capable of having sex with a man they find repulsive just to get off. Hookers do it for money, not to get off. However, if I were in such a situation, there's no way I'm putting a bag over my head, that's beta af. A man who would compromise his dignity for sex is no real man. Note: the bag over the head joke is usually in reference to butterfaces, not necessarily women you are totally unattracted to. However, in real…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:15 PM
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Yeah but I would bet dollars to donuts that male OFs are supported largely by gay men. Women don't really pay for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:18 AM
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It doesn't cease to amaze me the number of people who fail to grasp that people actually attach value to sex. Most people don't view our bodies as meaningless meat puppets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:16 AM
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In all of my life I really cannot think of a single time a dude I know has actively tried to get back at a girl who broke up with him. They just accept it and wallow in it. Divorce is probably the leading cause of suicide in men, which they historically commit 4x as often as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:14 AM
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The counter argument from women is that these sexual partners lie in the past and that they made a character development. Well they do often make a sincere character development. However, whether or not they sincerely regret their past would be of little relevance when it comes to settling down with her. If she has a high N-count, she's getting nexted regardless of her level of regret. She's DANGER ZONE. The same unfortunately doesn't go for men. I don't make the rules and its not my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:55 AM
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Generally you don't want to settle down with a woman who went the Sandbergian route, especially when it's so open and to this degree. Are men right to feel those who didn't want me when i was doing the work, don't deserve the finished article (career-wise)? This should be the default if a young guy is interested in an LTR. You want a woman who is betting on you to "become." Note: not a woman who is trying to change you, but a woman who has faith in you as a man. I.e. you meet a girl in college a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:00 AM
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This is good advice. You should not date a woman who dated professional athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:49 PM
1

I don't think so. I consider "pretty" to be the baseline for women. I don't know if I'm attracted to most women, but I consider a 5/10 to be pretty, and 4 and under to usually be deformed or overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:37 PM
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Yes I'm sure you are very philosophically stimulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:18 PM
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believe me, if you learn how to work with her and ask her what she wants, she will orgasm faster. Women are so . . . Why does he have to ask you? Here's a pro tip ladies "YEAH DADDY KEEP GOING!" "OH KEEP GOING YOURE GONNA MAKE ME CUM!" "YOURE MAKING ME CUM!" "I'M CUMMMING!" Then, YOU can prioritize getting HIM off. Why is it so hard to just come out and tell your man what you want, or give positive reinforcement during the act? First of all, it's just fun to hear as a guy. But secondly, after aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:15 PM
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Depends on the overlap. My wife isn't really political at all, even though I am fairly interested in the subject. However, she shares my values. That's honestly my preference. I see people on here (mostly women) always talk about wanting a partner they can engage in philosophical and intellectual discussions with. For the most part they overestimate themselves in this realm. If I want that, I can find it. It's not something I need in a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:03 PM
2

Do psych professionals in the UK consider bipolar a psychotic disorder as opposed to a mood disorder?
/r/MensRights06/10/21 05:06 PM
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Is it reasonable for men to live through a sexless marriage? Depends on the guy. A man willing to tolerate a sexless marriage deserves one. If the answer is no, then what's a reasonable expectation following a big event for libido to come back? 3 months? 6 months? 9 months? A year? Longer? Preferably enough time to heal and diet/exercise away the baby weight. Also, let's say you don't want sex as a woman and you expect your man to be a slave to your stubborn libido. You can't enthusiastically bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 04:57 PM
1

All women shit test because they have to shit test. It's not intentional or malicious. Granted, sometimes they are definitely intentional, e.g. "trying" to make you jealous, or doing petty things just to see how you respond. Most shit tests aren't conscious/intentional pokes/prods. And shit testing isn't domestic violence. Over using these terms just turns everyone into weak bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:14 PM
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If you suspect that your woman is crushing on another male, you should break things off. Why waste your time? And you hit the nail on the head. Ask a woman: "Which is worse, having a physical affair with no emotional attachment; or, an emotional affair with no physicality?" For the most part, women view the emotional affair as worse than a physical one, if presented with the binary. Men are the opposite. Which makes sense from an evo psych point of view. Therefore, as a man, you know that the cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:09 PM
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First of all, why aren't you attractive? I would totally date a girl with no legs who is otherwise fit and healthy. There are also mental health concerns here that need to be addressed. I don't think you should fear being alone forever, but if that's something that is sincerely on your mind, it's going to affect how you present yourself and view relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:55 AM
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She literally explains that she let herself go when she's with an objective HVM. She needs to take some accountability here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:47 AM
2

Easier to train a smart dog than a dumb dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:16 AM
6

Imagine being this person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:42 PM
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He was hollering, and no, hollering doesn't work and it's beta AF. It's like a puffer fish. He's trying to appear confident and fearless. What he's doing is performing for an audience, "Hey guys, I'm not scared of talking to women because I'm so confident!" He knows he will likely get rejected and he doesn't want to get rejected in public... but he also doesn't wanna look like he's scared to talk to girls. It's pathetic. Side not: It always annoys me when women detail what body parts they show a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:41 PM
1

I would rather have a son that accepts reality as it is than a son who believes comforting lies. So while I don't want my son to be the latter, that would be preferable to being a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:33 PM
2

I don't think Christianity is BP, but I think most Christians are BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:30 PM
5

We just don't want to wife up hoes. Why is that sex negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:27 PM

Because of the mentality that says "hOw CoMe A gIrl iS a sLuT iF sHe HaS sEx BuT a MaN iS cELeBrAtEd" This mentality says that women should be as sexually promiscuous as men want to be without stigma. This is because our culture prioritizes egalitarian feels over reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:23 PM

Okay but what is the study? I want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:15 PM

Is 5 a lot for a 25 year old? Because I honestly don’t know. Well yeah it's a lot IMO. Do you wanna know what's actually high or what's high compared to your peers? But the better question is whether it's "too much." For most guys, no. But girls aren't interested in most guys. So it really depends on the kind of guy you're looking for. I think most guys would settle for a woman who's been nailed by 5 guys and consider themselves lucky. Guys are either blue-pilled, or they think expecting a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:14 PM
2

What source are you using for this. I believe it; I am just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:22 AM
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Well.... show me the lie... He's giving his friend uncomfortable truths over comforting lies. Flowers on the first date? Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:56 AM
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Many men? Sure. You see this on the MRA subs all the time. My biggest beef with MRA is that the dudes tend to be such weaklings who, like feminists, hate hearing hard truths and hate looking reality in the face. But what you described is simply being unaccountable, which I find far more prevalent among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:18 PM
2

I really can't stand the defeatist doomers around here. See a guy with an abundance mindset who takes pride in his style? Better shit on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:58 PM
2

Also displays the benefits of facial hair for men. Pic 1 definitely benefits in the face from having a beard. Tren helps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:51 PM
3

High N-counts are positively correlated with divorce, infidelity, and mental health baggage. A smart man cares about N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:26 PM
1

True and I agree but genetics are important to consider. Not everyone can build a nice chest, let alone a "big" chest. Unless you wanna use PEDs which I'm all for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:25 PM
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From what I've read on various forums, the gains aren't permanent initially. But you can definitely dial back your PE exercises to a "maintenance" routine and eventually the gains will be permanent. But we're talking ~6 months minimum of said maintenance routine, maybe more. The gains are slow and modest, but fairly significant tbh. Unfortunately, there are no large scale studies to prescribe a specific routine. The only thing you'll find on most medical sites are exercises for Peyrone's Disease…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:23 PM
0

Boobjobs aren't that expensive nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:16 PM
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Because there's an extreme positive correlation between high N-counts and: Divorce rates infidelity Mental health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:07 PM
0

Yes. Draft the men to work on subs, in the desert, on flight lines and put their lives at risk. Draft the women for the cushy desk jobs with internet and A/C because that's equality. It's just math.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 06:58 PM
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I'm mocking those who claim MRA who want to include women into the draft instead of abolishing conscription entirely. If you were to have a draft, including women would be stupid feminist virtue signaling. Women suck at fighting in wars, 99% of them couldn't pass a fitness test even if they were conscripted. Women shouldn't be included in the draft, not only because they're women and that would be stupid, but because conscription should not be a thing.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:14 PM
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Instead of abolishing slavery, let's make sure women are slaves too because muh equality
/r/MensRights28/09/21 05:59 PM
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You have to stand up for yourself. "I shouldn't have to!" That's true. Do you wanna live in reality, though? The reality is that once the sub doesn't do anything, you raise hell. You light up the sub (verbally), grab the girl and put her in the ground and make her apologize, or you let your justified rage out on one of the dudes she's associating with. You don't have to hit the girl to make your point. But the fact that you were so scared that you didn't stand up and yell at her or the sub or an…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 05:40 PM
0

Why would I be anxious about it? If it were someone I like, I'd be disappointed. The anxiety would come from a scarcity mindset, which men should avoid at all costs. As for preference, if I were picking a woman for marriage today, obviously virginity would be the preference. In that case, we're talking about wife/mother. In a marriage, there are no downsides to a woman being a virgin. They make the most loyal wives. Not to mention, you often have to break bad habits of "experienced" women anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 07:19 PM
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No no no, don't assume, just be patient. It will come out eventually. Also, You can go off of behavioral cues and draw a conclusion from there. How does she view sex? How does she act on social media? Is she outwardly a feminist? If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck . . .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:31 AM
1

Because Disney is all-in with intersectional feminism
/r/MensRights26/09/21 04:45 PM
4

By definition this wouldn't be an incel. Involuntary Celibate. If it's my choice, it's not involuntary. And their are more than two choices. You could embrace casual hookups, prostitution, or sugar dating. But if we're restricted to just the two choices presented by OP, I would rather be a sexless MGTOW bachelor than LTR a woman that doesn't meet relationship criteria. Men have few non-negotiables, but they are non-negotiable. To me, it's like asking "Would you rather put your money in a zero-in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:43 PM
0

Get the doomer shit out of here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:45 PM
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For sex: Not fit For LTR: Not fit Secular Older than 25 sexual history immodest has kids Doesn't want to be a mother This is a partial LARP because I'm already married to the mother of my son. But if I were forced into the dating market due to death or divorce, these would be my core criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:55 PM
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Well, it always comes out. A guy has to realize that all women who are interested in marriage/children, and most are eventually, have to sell purity to do so. So relying on a woman to be totally upfront about her sexual past from the jump is an unreliable strategy. Hire slow, fire fast. Give the past time to rear its ugly head. This is one of the primary reasons against getting with women in the danger zone. The baggage from past mistakes, relationships, and sex has had more time to add up. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:43 PM
6

Do you even have a point or do you just feel the need to be heard?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:22 PM
12

Don't marry women who think sex is work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:12 PM
6

Honestly that's an overstatement. There really isn't a RP "ideal" because it's a praxeology, not a system of values per se. Plenty of dudes are RP and don't care for casual sex, e.g. MGTOW, some of whom cross into being straight blackpill/doomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:40 PM
8

Ask yourself "why" and then work from there. Look at the parents with a great sex life, and find out what they do differently than the sexless parents. The answer normally comes down to neglecting health and self-care. The notion that kids eat into alone time is a piss-poor excuse. Fuck when he naps, when he goes to bed, or before he wakes. Offer to watch the kid so she can workout. Exercise is great for both male/female libidos. Get a sitter if you must. And this is for a baby. Once your kid is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:22 PM
2

Competition anxiety and natural arousal. They might "like" a guy, but the shirtless guys on spring break are more arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:50 PM
1

Well that's not really a refutation since our claims aren't mutually exclusive, and that's not what beta means.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:29 PM
1

You are going to have to be more specific if you want a good answer because that's kind of vague. Not all women are seen the same by men. A lot of these questions seem to come from bitterness toward reality to be honest. Sounds like the equivalent of "But that's not fair." If that's your perspective, that's fine, but there's no real conversation to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:23 PM
2

By what rationale must a metaphor be scientific? You're just regurgitating rebuttals at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:22 PM
2

It's not a figment of anything. It's shorthand and makes the conversation easier. No, that's not the TrUe DiFfErEnTiAtIon
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:09 PM
1

Someone call Scoob and the gang to figure out what a man would want with a young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:44 PM
1

High-earning careers are full of high earning betas. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to get married if you want kids, but medicine, STEM, tech, and law are full of guys that maintain a scarcity mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:41 PM
2

Yeah. Married to a great woman who dresses modestly, prioritizes health and fitness, is sexually enthusiastic, and is grateful to have me. She also stays home and cooks, cleans, and homeschools my son.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:45 PM
4

Why are you moving the goalpost to some PUA metrics? Sex on the first date? how tf is that relevant? Most guys aren't out here trying to pick up, most guys meet girls through their social circle. Not from pick up. The fact that you're bringing up personal club stories is cringe tbh. Doesn't have anything to do with the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:26 AM
9

20 dates with 20 different women? Nah, I stand by what I said. The average man is a sad sack compared to even below average women, if we're comparing options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:05 AM
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I have prob gone on maybe 20 dates since january and not once felt i could have sex with them or kiss them. Do men also feel this way or can they just have sex with an attractive woman? Everybody listen up! This is why you can't hold men and women to identical standards. Overlapping standards, sure, but identical? Nah. We are playing on entirely different difficulty levels. A guy isn't even going to accept the date with you, or ask you, unless he has already decided that you are his sexual type.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:48 PM
3

Woah woah woah. I do not think women aren't hot past 30. I have met plenty of women over 30 that are still very attractive. And honestly if I were looking to marry someone, I wouldn't be looking for 9s and 10s anyway. In fact, I still think older chicks can be hot. Is she naturally going to be less attractive than her 20 y/o self? Most likely. But that doesn't mean she can't still be bangin'. The problem with investing in single women over 30 has little to do with her appearance in my view. Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:05 AM
0

Cathy Newman is a woman famous for taking an argument, and saying "So what you're saying is..." followed by uncharitably rephrasing her opponents argument. What you said is a non-sequitur so there's nothing to refute. I don't need to defend positions you ascribe to me, or defend things I never said.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 11:57 PM
4

Well put. Unfortunately, it's fallen on deaf ears. OP wants validation, and will not be persuaded to adopt an alternative perspective. In fact, he will simply take the Cathy Newman approach to your arguments.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 11:55 PM
4

I can't think of an idea that's caused more suffering in the 20th century than the idea that everything should be more fair across the board.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 11:53 PM
2

Someone gets it
/r/MensRights19/09/21 11:50 PM
1

Why does this upset you?
/r/MensRights19/09/21 11:50 PM
-3

No, not of course. Across the board fairness is not my aim. Nor do I think it's virtuous to pursue it.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 11:43 PM
2

That's a false dichotomy, but no, the goal is not to make the world more fair across the board, because it's a fool's errand. The preoccupation with equality is also a part of our gynocentric indoctrination from the cradle. Women are far more naturally sensitive to perceived unfairness, and those innate feminine traits have seeped into media and education. To the point that we can no longer differentiate between necessary inequalities and actual injustices. Any inequity that can be observed is n…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:03 PM
-3

Look, this is a fact of life, and one of my biggest gripes with the rest of MRAs is this habit of conflating societal problems with unfortunate realities. As men, we need to distinguish between the things in life that are bullshit, and the things we need to accept as part of being a man. Life isn't fair. This is an example of the latter. Men have a unique burden of performance. Women don't share this burden, nor do they have a similar frame of reference. That's part of being human. It's never be…
/r/MensRights19/09/21 06:47 PM
4

Big facts going to make a lot of people big mad. Guys, college has been a scam for a long time. Men are waking up to this fact, women are still plugged in. How can you blame them though?
/r/MensRights19/09/21 04:56 PM
3

That comment doesn't make sense to me. Care to rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 03:28 AM
8

I've never met a woman with an advanced degree or a career (ton of these women don't know the difference between a career and a job tbh) that didn't think it made her more attractive. OP didn't say these women pursue careers to attract men; that's what you read into it. He said women with a career think having a career, money and/or degree makes them more attractive. He's totally right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:45 PM
1

6ft tall 6 pack abs 6 inches in the pants 6 figure income 600hp car 6 months out of a relationship Don't take all of them at face value. It's just like a hypergamy cheat sheet. (e.g. 600hp is more to do with the pricetag of your toys)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:20 PM
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Facts. Yeah let me rephrase: Men: teach your sons how to dress, and how to style. If you don't know, teach yourself. I'm bald but I could literally find a guide right now on hairstyles for face shape, as well as how to properly style your hair/beard. Get regular haircuts you bums.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:05 PM
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Cringe
/r/MensRights17/09/21 06:37 PM
0

I simp for Zyra
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:32 PM
2

I don't argue with NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:20 PM
2

Oh hi Cathy Newman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:14 PM
4

Whatever squares with your programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:13 PM
9

I find it to be a significant rhetorical advantage that humanities students are taught uniformly to use the term "power dynamics." This is also the most convenient criticism of feminism btw. Feminists (really, most women) look at the top 20% of men, see they're doing better, and pretend that the other 80% don't exist. If you think the average man throughout history benefited from a power imbalance, I don't think you can claim to know much about men and women throughout history. the "critical" le…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:04 PM
10

Now you're dancing. Your broad view of women's role is shaped by how most women behave, but your assessment of men is shaped by what the tippy-top tiny percentage of men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:04 PM
1

So in your mind, wanting a family is not traditional, but providing for that family is traditional. And you are against being traditional, so you have no problems with men marrying women and making babies, as long as they don't pay the bills. Well I gotta say being a hobosexual is, in fact, nontraditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:58 PM
5

They are absolutely not right dude. You were at the club. What guy goes to the club to make female friends? Don't take dating advice from naive women. Don't be a fucking dope, just understand where you went wrong. You didn't escalate and you have a scarcity mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:53 PM
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The downside of going too hard on correlations between relationships and superficial physical traits is that it creates a defeatist mindset. If you're a guy, check the six 6's. If you only check off 1 or 2 boxes, do some work on yourself. If you check off 3+ boxes (one of them being "6-pack"), there is no reason to have a scarcity mindset. Even if your idea is "I can only go for X women" who cares? Most guys are going to be happier going for a niche in the market. Example: I'm a bald guy who's f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:49 PM
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Men, now and always controlled the dating game Only ~30-35% of men in human history have reproduced, compared to over 95% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:27 PM
2

How many of those whiny women are traditional women? If they aren't getting quality guys, you and your friends' first reaction is to place the blame outward. It can't be that your friends are getting exactly what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:55 PM
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To this point, men are not raised with their appearance in mind. This is completely opposite with women. We're raised to believe that walking around with unkempt hair and baggy clothes is acceptable. Even the boys who try will miss the mark because they're basically teaching themselves how to style. Which is why we all went through the Axe bodyspray period in highschool, or guys growing out their hair but not knowing how to grow their hair the smart way. Caking their hair in gel. Trying to grow …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:52 PM
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Bro if you have status and you hit on a woman, you're abusing the inherent power imbalance and thus, you're a predator. Whatever you do, don't think about it, feminists surely don't. Just accept and obey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:45 PM
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I did it to impress him. Do you think that most women would be willing to do that? Weird flex but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:41 PM
2

Where do you get this stuff? I live in Europe and here I don’t see anyone (men or women) who gives a shit about marriage anymore. "I don't see it therefore it does not exist"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:40 PM
1

Gotta ask you guys about your balls. How severe is the shrinkage people talk about? Greg Doucette says they basically go from being egg shaped to ball shaped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:23 PM
1

Yeah no your not. That's simply not a tenable position in reality unless you have a very perverse view of tradition, which seems to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:22 PM
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Men peak in their thirties, but they still have decades worth of BP conditioning that doesn't go away overnight. Their status changes so they become more economically attractive, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're lifting weights. So you have high-ish earning Dad bods who retain a scarcity mindset from decades worth of bad dating advice, which they've probably taken from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:19 PM
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I've fucked guys in front of my husband. Who cares? Well your husband would if he had an ounce of frame lmao. My argument is that if a woman wants to fuck a guy (for any reason) she will fuck him. She won't rub her face on his body (what is that?) and then tell everyone how she didn't fuck him. "I was turned on by this guy but I didn't fuck him". Like why would you even say that, it makes you look like a loser who can’t get laid. That's just simply wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:36 AM
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This is going to vary based on individual. Again, people, it's not an ideology or a value system or a religious doctrine. It's a bunch of guys who got together and compared notes, got some shit right, squared their findings with evo-psych, and now we have a praxeology that serves as a predictive framework. It's as simple as "Oh, this is what I was told about how sex and relationships go, and this is the truth." It doesn't negate any of my prior values. I'm still married and I love my wife and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:32 AM
1

So worked up bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:13 AM
5

Could you elaborate? Are you on TRT, or is this a legit cycle for you? Because you described low-T as your reasoning for starting, so wouldn't you normally want to try TRT before jumping into a cycle if that's the reason? After all, going from low-T to high-T (but within range), you'd still feel a helluva lot better. BTW I don't judge. Guys want to use gear, I'm all for it as long as they do it smartly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:53 AM
1

Maybe if you ask nicely and call me daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:49 AM
2

No I'm saying you're hamstering because your trying to find a workaround to admitting your woman lied. Maybe she did it because she didn't want to be judged, maybe she lied to herself because she lacked insight, or maybe it was a prerejection thing. But to be like "My wife said one thing, then the opposite turned out to be true. Maybe it's because I'm special," is classic bluepill conditioning. It's just that women are bad at telling you what they're aroused by. Simple as that. Call a spade a sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:48 AM
3

Ok so it's just as simple as misunderstanding RP. Now it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:26 AM
5

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:19 AM
7

TRP is a literal cure for the Madonna/Whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:13 AM
2

It's not though, it's just hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:10 AM
7

The decline of our culture into deviancy and nihilism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:55 AM
5

If I were a loser with a scarcity mindset, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:47 AM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:46 AM
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Prerejection is a thing, but more commonly They don't want to be regarded as shallow or "basic." My wife said the same thing about muscles. I don't think my wife lied about not being attracted to muscle. The most charitable you can be to your wife is that she was lying to herself. That's not a dis, nor is it a red flag. As a man, you just have to know that women are absolutely terrible at articulating what arouses them. This is why TRP exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:33 AM
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Is your argument that she wasn't aroused by the stripper because she didn't pay to fuck him in front of her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:27 AM
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Women are now as sexually active as most men once were . Men now know what it’s like to be on the opposite end of that dynamic. It's not a conclusion, it's rephrasing. I put your words into more clear terms, and understandably, you think it sounds absurd. Note that when I read those first two sentences, they sounded equally as absurd as my comment sounded to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:18 AM
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Defend the sisterhood at all costs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:16 AM
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I honestly don't see how women can even issue that rebuttal. The decline in traditional masculinity paired with second/third wave feminism. It wasn't men claiming "Women need men like fish need a bicycle." So if you start a feminist movement in the name of sexual liberation and careerism, or you support it at all, how can you then bemoan the fact that there are less traditional men? Obviously women started it. This is not even close to a both sides situation. Men are going to do what gets them l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:38 AM
2

I don't take it as a given that people in the past were more abusive than people today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:26 AM
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Oh, she also will tell you that she's not a feminist. All I can say is actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:01 PM
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Yes because men and women are equal interchangeable widgets with no biological and/or sexual differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:00 PM
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"He disagrees with me therefore he misunderstands"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:11 PM
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I disagree. I think plenty of men meet the BB requirement, and not enough meet the AF requirement. Exactly the inverse for women. A lot of whores, not a lot of Madonnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:54 PM
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I’ve been consuming content form the manosphere for a fucking decade. I already asked for receipts. Who's content do you consume? Certainly not the most prominent content creators. Certainly not Rollo, or Rich Cooper, or AMS, or Fresh&Fit. Sharpe? Clary? Certainly haven't read TRM, or The Game, or No More Mr. Nice Guy. And now you are trying to rephrase your claims to avoid being wrong. No, this sub is not the manosphere, and no blackpillers ("incels") would be included either. They actively des…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:50 PM
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I’m not. This is said on almost every thread here. It doesn’t matter what RP says, I’m talking about what gets said here You said the manosphere. Do you believe that PPD is "The manosphere?" If you don't consume content from the Manosphere, why do you feel qualified to tell me I'm wrong about what's said within the Manosphere? Do I need to send you two dozen clips and articles from PUAs and RP representatives explicitly holding men accountable? Hell, go to the actual RP subs, and they literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:36 PM
4

The consensus around here is that women marry men they aren’t attracted to and lie about it. That’s just not the reality for most people You're overstating the "consensus" to the point of falsehood, and it's fine to not understand the arguments. But nobody who is RP would agree with that "consensus" as stated. All I read is that women, feminism, society, etc is to blame. Who do you read in the manosphere, or who's content do you consume? If you follow the manosphere, let's see receipts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:20 PM
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No. They've become the appropriate amount of distrustful for the time. In fact, you could argue that men more broadly are still too trusting, but I think it's more of a dividing line than a general trend. You have simps, and you have guys that refuse to simp. As women become more slutty, men will become more guarded. And I would phrase it as trusting behavior over words, and being more strict on red flags. Men are brought up to desire fatherhood and being a husband, which is fine. But less women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:06 PM
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But why is the assumption always that she lied to him/herself and was never attracted to him to begin with versus she was but lost the attraction over time? Nobody made the assumption that she was never attracted to him. In fact, she might still be attracted to him. But she was/is certainly lying about her sexual arousal explicitly. She denied to my face caring about muscles in guys, then 2 years later is rubbing her face on a muscular stranger's abs. It seems to me that the manopshere refuses t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:01 PM
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This is a myth. What's demonized is men being whiny bitches. My bro and me have been talking many days this past week about his divorce. He's rocked by the experience and is going through shit. But broadly in our culture is this pervasive myth of male vulnerability. We have evolved to be the more logical and stoic sex. Women are literally evolved to be more social, which means that they simply get more benefit out of sharing. In fact, female friends will habitually "share each others' pain," and…
/r/MensRights16/09/21 04:28 PM
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Well, the RP community distinguishes between attraction and arousal. But yes, at least 80% of men broadly don't know the difference. My wife recently got a snap chat from a girlfriend who went on vacation with her husband to vegas. The snap detailed how she "rubbed her face on the Chip n' Dales dancer's washboard abs." For background, I used to work with this girl. She met her man in college, and she's fairly attractive. He's short and chubby and makes less money than her. I've heard her dispara…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:21 PM
1

Good. Get your boys out of public school entirely. Turn 18, work full time, learn a trade. Maybe self-study for some entry level tech certs. If you want an education, do it part time at a community college at night/weekends or online. Even then, you don't have to go to a full-time 4-year university under tons of debt at the age of 18. Don't know exactly what you want to do? Don't go straight to college. Also, if you join the job market first, you will have a better notion of what kind of worker …
/r/MensRights14/09/21 06:03 PM
8

We call them simps bro.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 05:57 PM
0

Oh hi Cathy Newman
/r/MensRights13/09/21 07:26 PM
1

Expulsion is extreme. I don't believe in zero tolerance policies for kids and teens.
/r/MensRights12/09/21 06:11 PM
2

Plenty of chubby women still get plenty of sexual attention from men, so just because you wear a size 10 doesn't say much. But you might just carry the weight very well. You can have 2 size tens where one wears it very well, flattering fat distribution, and another size ten that looks gross because she doesn't carry the fat well. Very few women, unless morbidly obese, get slim-to-zero attention from men. Most women have room to work with in the weight department. But you'll attract a different n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:23 PM
2

The vast majority of bumper stickers are cringey and give a "look at me" vibe, and they are tacky. Usually, it's a tat here, a tat there, with no common theme or flow. The colors and designs clash. It's a bunch of individual drawings randomly plastered on a human canvas. The typical millennial has a Harry Potter tattoo on one forearm, maybe some stars behind the ears, and then an inspirational quote or bible verse because of a deceased family member. These are more like bumper stickers, which ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:21 PM
1

I think piercings can be classy, but some piercings can be gaudy and/or tacky. I would prefer no more than ear piercings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:15 PM
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Well they're mixed on the topic. but, to answer your question, I take the bumper sticker approach. As in, I view tats mostly the same way I view bumper stickers. Especially bumper stickers on a nice car.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:50 PM
2

Not them, but It means out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:47 PM
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Because making it out of the friendzone after 7 or 8 years is not an accomplishment to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:48 PM
1

Never been a nightlife dude. I cant stand being surrounded by ditsy drunk people for no purpose other than to be ditsy and drunk. And if my wife at any time during our "courting" suggested she needed a "night out," it would have simply been the swift end of our relationship. Guys nowadays generally know better than to get cucked by "girls night." However, if we had a night out, it would have been just finding something unique to do in San Diego (at the time). We saw new movies all the time, new …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 03:57 AM
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- Most younger women generally aren't attracted to older men All women are attracted to older men, sometimes just slightly older; they just aren't attracted to old men. Women have "rules" that they will break for a man of sufficient value, e.g. rules about height, income, age, etc. The more arbitrary the "rule," the more willing she is to break it. The adage goes, "Women make rules for betas, break rules for alphas." This applies to stated rules and implicit "standards." - Women in the west now …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 04:47 PM
5

Social science studies why people behave the way they do. There’s no place for morality You are cherry-picking where you apply this logic. TRP doesn't advocate spinning plates any more than psychology advocates positive reinforcement. Some people use the effects of spinning plates to offer advice, just as some use the effects of positive reinforcement to offer advice. I would argue that the field of psychology has become far more engaged in morality than any TRP- or TRP-adjacent group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:23 PM
4

They dodged the question, but yes, it applies to all social sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:57 PM
0

Virtually no man has unrealistic standards. Most guys are taking what they can get, so that tells me standards are pretty low. However, there are only a few women left who are marriage material. You know how 20% of men are having the vast majority of the sex? In other words, about 20% of men are able to elicit raw and enthusiastic arousal from women. Well, the female inverse of that would be "marriage material," and I would argue that only about 20% of modern women, maybe less, meet the requirem…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:52 PM
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Indeed. But it's an argument I've heard before. The stated theory is that men are physically superior to women only because men were in control of the food and malnourished the women as we were evolving.
/r/MensRights05/09/21 06:55 PM
4

This is pretty out of touch with the male perspective, ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:40 PM
11

Nowadays not at all. In hindsight, I got involved with risky women in high school. I dated a girl who claimed sexual assault from multiple exes. Of course, she never brought any charges to the police. I believed her, of course, because I was infatuated with her and why would I assume she's a liar? Well, I shortly noticed she had this pattern of lying, which didn't deter me because I just loved hot-and-toxic bitches. She started dating my future Brother-in-Law, and after they broke up, he told me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:34 PM
2

When you ask a woman for standards, as you've noticed, she will inevitably give an answer that will cause the least amount of friction in the present company. So, naturally, she will set the bar so low that nobody would object. "Hygiene" is a given and an extremely low bar to get over, and nobody would call a woman shallow for wanting hygiene, and also it's so broad as to be meaningless. She has plenty of wiggle room to negotiate the standard or backpedal if needed. That's what it comes down to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:33 AM
1

Okay. So first, it's better if you aren't fat. So this test applies to at least average women, and not fatties. Also, if you have a past with any of your "friends," just gtfo lol. Text your single guy friends and try to get sex from them, and see if they take the bait. Might take a few texts, because guys are guarded about unsuspected sexual propositions, and they will want to make sure you're serious. They're laughing face emoji, or they'll say you're drunk, or they'll playfully tell you STFU. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:46 PM
0

Can you explain it to me very slowly using small words?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:36 PM
1

Can you explain it to me very slowly using small words?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:36 PM
2

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:21 PM
1

And I would be sorry for your orbiters, but they do it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:14 PM
5

Is anyone surprised that she is trying to convince orbiters to keep being orbiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:30 PM
2

I mean, I think guys should be virgin chasers if they want marriage. Simply put, virgin brides make the best wives. Rationalize that however you want folks, but that's just what the stats say. Lowest rates of divorce and infidelity. Note to idiots: If you read this comment as an absolute, as opposed to a generalization, do yourself a favor and be silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:42 PM
6

RP I disagree with many RP guys on the following: Marriage is a valuable institution. HVM can be monogamous. This is because orderly, conscientious men (two personality traits that correlate highly with career success) often will live according to a set of values and stick to those values consistently. From the Christian religious perspective, of course I've seen the guys who talk up monogamy and then have an affair. Of course that happens. But I've also seen a number of high value men, older, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:34 PM
1

If we're keeping it real, it's because of single moms, public education, and the medicalizing of boyhood. You're giving a vast oversimplification. Things that contribute to T-levels are age, genetics, diet, sleep, sedentary lifestyle, overtraining, medication, etc. Yes, jacking it too much can lower T-levels temporarily. But is jacking it too much alone going to cause your T-levels to tank? Doubtful. You can expect a modest increase in your T-levels from nofap, but YMMV, and I'm doubtful that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:04 AM
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There's no moral stance per se. It's observational. It's a lens through which to view the world. Which is why PUAs, married men, as well as MGTOWs can all stake some kind to claim to seeing the world through an RP lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:31 AM
1

What if an issue that needs solving is an issue involving the other gender. Am I a problem solver by addressing it, or a mere whiner by talking about the other gender?
/r/MensRights31/08/21 06:47 PM

Honestly I have no idea how this post is relevant to the sub. This is a long rant about how you don't like christianity with a throwaway line saying "it affects dating."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 06:18 PM
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There's a simple meme that explained it perfectly IMO. It basically said "Will you engage in a contract with me that you can break at any time and entitles you to half my stuff if you leave?"
/r/MensRights31/08/21 04:34 PM
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Well there's obviously that part of what I'm saying, but the other point that I'm trying to convey to u/ApprehensiveAd3282 is that she is far more likely to be unintentionally hurtful to a male she's close with than a fellow student or coworker. So yeah, it will come off as relationship advice. But honestly, the denseness OP displays is part of what makes men apprehensive to talk to women about this stuff. To summarize, all I said was that you aren't likely to hurt men accidentally. That would b…
/r/MensRights31/08/21 04:32 PM
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You know, this kind of harkens back to the myth of male vulnerability. In reality, you aren't going to be "hurtful" unless you actively insult a guy. We're pretty naturally stoic, and unless you do or say something blatantly cruel, we aren't going to read into it and be hurt. Now, if you want to know how to better understand the struggles of future boyfriends, husbands, and sons, feel free to reach out. The gist is that there is a burden of performance on men in society to a degree that women ne…
/r/MensRights31/08/21 04:38 AM
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"Look past her past" Women marrying/trying to marry for the first time after 30 Being nonjudgmental about having children out of wedlock These are all end results of the sexual revolution, but really came to a head with millenials. Not that you didn't have step-parents before the millennials (you did), but the millennial generation embraced these three dating measures more than any other. The gist is this: The aversion to single moms that you described, I would call it a counter movement against…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:18 AM

Unfortunately, you leave 100% of the time in this scenario, without exception. No man deserves to feel that way. Well actually, simps, white knights and cucks deserve to feel that way, since they bring it on themselves. It's not like the current boyfriend can change anything. It's not his skills that she's bashing, it's his dick size. The dude literally can't compete with her ex, because his gf is a size queen and is literally settling for "Mr. Good Enough." She is settling for less-than-best se…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:55 AM

Disagree. He could have found the statements written in a locked diary, and the outcome should still be the same. A self-respecting man would end things, and a chump with a scarcity mindset would stick around. This is one of many things that women are straight up incapable of understanding about men, as evidenced by chalking it up to mere "insecurity" if ever it came up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:42 AM
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Baseless claims aren't arguments, and they are met with likewise rebuttals. And dear God, has anyone ever seen someone so eager to out themselves as a midwit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:04 AM
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Read The Righteous Mind, by Johnathan Haidt. He talks about disgust in great detail. If I had to take a guess, I'm guessing this is nature's way of ensuring that women don't "accidentally" breed with a genetically unfit man. Men can afford to waste sperm, women can't afford to waste eggs That is a pretty solid guess. The disgust response is just another example of Darwinism ensuring the survival of the species. But keep in mind, most women would have that disgust response regarding most men. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:29 PM
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That's about the stupidest damn claim I've ever heard. Why would I need to "express my feminine side?" The myth of male vulnerability my friend. Women think we are stoic because our vulnerability would lead to ridicule by our peers. There must be a little boy inside crying for mama to hold him. To them, it's unfathomable that men don't cope like they do, and don't emote like they do. After all, talking about her feelings is cathartic for her, so she knows that it helps. The only reason you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:10 PM
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I got ADHD and whether you like to admit or not, you do have a power imbalance over me Now this is straight up BP conditioning right here. And no, power imbalances are the norm. Until you reach your 30s on average, women are the beneficiaries of power imbalance. It's only when the balances of power shift, ever so slightly, in a man's favor that everyone loses their minds. Literally a 10-12 year age gap is considered this huge taboo, let's say the man is 31 and the woman 19. Even though the young…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:39 PM
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I'm one of a kind
/r/MensRights25/08/21 04:33 PM
1

Beta males aren't necessarily low-T, they aren't necessarily submissive to women. They are simply the vast majority of men overlooked by the vast majority of women. But no. Monogamy doesn't make a man automatically a mere beta. It depends on his agency. Many HVMs choose monogamy for religious reasons, and that's great. It's good to have a vested interest in the rearing of your offspring, and marriage is the best proven institution for rearing children. But the choice is what's relevant here. One…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:32 PM
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You are totally winning this interaction.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 04:19 PM
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The irony of this comment undoubtedly flies right under your radar.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 04:14 PM
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Sure it's not, sicko.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 04:07 PM
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A sad individual gains comfort at the prospect of internet strangers getting "banned." Maybe take a break from technology and get some therapy? Or a dog?
/r/MensRights25/08/21 04:06 PM
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Nobody says "only"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:53 PM
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I've reported you for sexualization of minors. You don't get to turn pediatric medical procedures into a sick fantasy.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 03:51 PM
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In the fashion if a True FeministTM, you have successfully made yourself look like an hysterical Karen, and devalued actual rape. Well done, feminist. You are deranged and selfish.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 03:40 PM
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Counterpoint: the anti-circumcision shit is not popular, no matter how much you want it to be true, and most men do not care about circumcision one way or the other. If you were to list the biggest concerns men face in America, circumcision wouldn't even crack the top 10. Yet, it's easily 1/3 of the posts on this sub.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 03:06 AM
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While this is true, and I agree 100%, there are two takeaways: This is more important for women to read and understand than men. Anything that gives the modern woman better insight into how men think is a boon. For men, the burden of performance is still on. "Men seek to be desired . . ." that's true, but you still have to work harder to be desirable. If you are putting in the work to be a desirable man, and your LTR is doing little/nothing to show you gratitude, desire, or reassurance, it's tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:01 AM
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They can't empathize with attractive men any more than they can empathize with unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:59 PM
1

Big facts. Just my turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:56 PM
1

I was talking to my wife today about this same topic. My wife doesn't earn an income or help pay my bills. I'm not rich (yet) but I make enough to support us. She's literally a better wife than all of the wives that I know, and a better mother than all of the mothers I know. Here's why: We homeschool my son. She's stayed at home with him since he was a baby, he's been developmentally ahead every step of the way, and now he's starting to read. About the natural world, he can tell you all sorts of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:38 AM
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Men spend their youth literally trying to fuck the first woman who gives them attention. We arent pining for 10s and settling for average. Hell, the vast majority of guys won't even approach the 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:07 AM
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It’s not just about money though, although she could earn a ton, it’s about types of professions, often the men are very intimated. That's your quote. But as ofspock points out there are a lot of men that are intimidated by women that have degrees when they don’t I will reiterate what I said to OfSpock: This is hamstering. The vast majority of men do not give a fuck about your degree. You could say this type of thing about your money and it be somewhat plausible, but there is literally zero thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:57 AM
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Having a degree does not make you intimidating lmao. Out of all of the most impressive people I've interacted with, it's been a mixed bag as to whether they had a degree or not. And of the ones that had the degree, it's a coin flip as to whether it was worth the cost. Nowadays, half of the apprentice electricians, plumbers, elevator mechanics, etc. have bachelor's degrees (maybe an exaggeration, but it's still a significant percentage). And if you want to know if their degrees help them actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:39 AM
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Doubt it all you want. First, I speak in generalities, not absolutes. Obviously what I say doesn't apply to all men. Second, just because you've sucked some white collar dick doesn't mean you have better insight into how the typical man views blue collar men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:36 AM
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Let's be fair though: you aren't just a lawyer, you're partner at a law firm. You're a career woman. Now, maybe this doesn't apply to you, but career women have a habit of using "they're just intimidated" as a way to avoid taking accountability for their failed relationships. Typically, it has nothing to do with being intimidating. It usually has to do with women emasculating their SOs and not having any insight as to what they could be doing that's so emasculating. In other words, clueless. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:47 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Can you elaborate or rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:34 PM
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I suppose if you are horny and drunk, but I don't think I could be drunk enough to pursue a fatty. I've definitely known guys to use fattys for drunken sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:46 PM
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Sucks to be these women. The elevator operators where I'm from are bringing in over 6 figures on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:03 PM
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Women like this don't realize that even if they have those thoughts, they really shouldn't share them around other men. Generally speaking, men find this mindset repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:00 PM
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I can assure you that I wouldn't have sex with a fat chick. Literally would be unable to maintain a hard on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:56 PM
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You've got it backwards. Porn caters to the market. The market is for younger women, and always has been. For nearly all of human history, most women were reproducing before the age of 20. It's only threw first world luxury that we even have the privilege to say "Nah, ima wait til I'm 30 to have kids." For 99.9% of human history, the idea of choosing to wait until 30 to find a husband and/or have kids would have been straight up confusing. The appeal younger women have on men (of all ages) is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:53 PM
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We believe the actions over the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:31 PM
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Different strokes. I totally plan on doing it. T-levels naturally decrease year after year past 30, and I want to keep mine at an optimal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:30 PM
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No, you hit the nail on the head with the McDonald's analogy. McDonald's uses unethically sourced products that are ultimately bad for you. Does it make you a hypocrite to eat McDonald's? Some say yes, some say no. I would be in the "no" camp. Personally, I almost never eat McDonald's unless I'm desperate. My position on porn has nothing to do with what I do personally. Personally, I would rather play an NSFW game on my phone. My position is simply that it's not necessarily hypocritical to bash …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:29 PM
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Steroids are literal medical treatments, and TRT is one of the treatments. The distinction between TRT and steroid abuse is the dosage. They're still both steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:12 PM
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I'm not sure adopting kids increases your RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:02 PM
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Do you count TRT/HRT as steroids? It's technically steroids, but it's not considered a "cycle" and it's a therapeutic dosage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:55 PM
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You think the concept of “game” came from PUA’s? lol I find it very convenient that midwits are so desperate to announce themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:24 PM
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You're nailing this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:38 PM
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Sure you do. Dig in those heels, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:33 PM
1

And the hamster wheel goes on and on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:32 PM
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Considering you are responding to a comment where I cited the age of 30, I'm going to assume that's the age you're responding to. 30s is not old, and the self-respect thing is just you being stuck up. It's just typical mean girl speak that you haven't grown out of. Hitting on an attractive woman is not disrespectful. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:21 PM
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So what? This has nothing to do with my point. Since you brought it up, though, you are slightly correct. I think the claim requires some kind of critical thought. It's not like if you are 30, you have no shot with a 23 y/o as a guy. In fact, if you are 30, you have a very solid shot with a 23 y/o, assuming you are a good looking guy and not a bum. Most adult women, even in their early 20s, date men 2-5 years their senior. Even when they date "around their age," it's typically older. However, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:11 PM
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Sure. That's why feminists love PUAs, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 01:58 PM
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According to feminists, women mature way faster than men, but not fast enough to make their own decisions about relationships. My favorite is "It's because he can't get girls his own age!" Like, yeah. He totally prefers a looser vagina, and wishes he didn't have to settle for a younger, tighter body. He just wishes he could fuck all of those wise career women with their saggier tits and higher body fat percentage and looser vag, because they're mature. Man, if there's one thing that makes a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:55 PM
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I think we are all collectively enjoying the degradation of women. I could make the same argument about wearing leggings as pants. The way women dress, especially in the gym, leaves very little to the imagination (or, it spurs the imagination). I think that's degrading to women. But these same women who bash the porn industry, or bash the Instagram Ethots, take full advantage of the cover it provides them to wear bikinis for example. I enjoy bikinis, as do all men. Are we going to pretend that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:57 PM

Regarding your perspective and it "disgusting" you, unfortunately it's the truth. Men do not want to wife hoes. So no, you were probably never actually RP, and it really doesn't sound like you are now. You still live in an egalitarian, Disney worldview about sex and relationships. The reason you got scolded is because you were trying to tell a woman a comforting lie (notch count doesn't matter), whereas being RP means accepting uncomfortable truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:19 PM
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I disagree. Sex workers are engaging in degrading behavior, and also it's pleasant to watch. The worst thing for society that sex workers do is that they give otherwise normal girls cover to dress provocatively and post sexualized pictures on their social media. If you call out an E-thot on her promiscuity, she will inevitably give the scripted reply, "It's not like I'm showing X." E.g. She will wear very tight, short shorts as a part of her workout attire, and her boyfriend will disagree with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:09 PM
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I don't know if I would call a subreddit the majority. and TRP is a big umbrella. This is what happens when you ban the incel subs, the MGTOW subs, and the blackpill subs. There are very few reddit communities where these people can congregate and have their ideas accepted openly. This sub being one, and TRP (which is quarantined) is another. I don't know if I'm better than all of those guys, but I'm certainly better than a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:48 PM
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I'll give an example of bashing: Sex work is degrading and makes a woman lose value. She is rightly stigmatized by the community at large. I think that when I say this, I'm bashing sex workers. I think that there should be stigma around sex work. I think there should be stigma around showing your ass on instagram, frankly. That being said, I don't think that industry should be banned outright. Personally, I think the industry should be moved away from public domain, and you should have to prove …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:42 PM
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It is true, and there are surprisingly few TRPers left on the TRP sub. Like I said, incel/blackpill thought has taken over. TRP was never meant to be about hating women or dominating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:34 PM
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Well hold up now, that's a different claim than "bashing sex workers." Thank you for the clarification. Also, I enjoy my soap box, tyvm, but there's room on my soap box for the two of us. No need to get so booty-hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:21 PM
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Maybe. A lot of LARPers and blackpill masquerading as TRP on reddit. Simply read The Game by Neil Strauss, and surely you will find the distinction between what is perfectly reasonable, and what you see from LARPers on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:19 PM
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It's literally not hypocritical. Guys, these words have meaning. Hypocritical would be bashing sex workers while engaging in sex work. Porn stars are peak hoes, and are utterly unmarriageable. They also happen to look good on camera and would be fun to spend a night with. I like how you look, and enjoy watching you perform, but I won't date you seriously. How is that hypocritical? An adjacent topic would be FWBs. It's not hypocritical to put some women in the "strictly for sex" box, while some w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:05 PM
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When will people understand that BOTH personality AND looks/status matter Actually, TRP does understand this. Game and vibe are both terms that reflect personality, not looks/status. When women talk about "vibing" with a man, they're referring to compatible personality. When TRP talks about eliciting "vibe" with a chick, that's game. Game can easily be described as using your personality to your benefit to attract women. If you are BP, you think of game as merely being a manipulative tactic, lyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:59 PM
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What you are pointing to as "shaming" is not actually shaming. That's what you are doing, right now. What you are pointing out is mockery, which is a distinction. We don't shame women for liking muscles and status and money. We don't even shame women for having unrealistic standards. We mock them for their entitlement, ego, and unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:01 PM
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Well, I would question your sexuality as well if you introduced the relationship as "Yeah, he's my good friend and I love him, but it's bro love, not gay love. This is my very plutonic male friend, so don't sexualize it, okay." I'm going to come out and say it: It sounds like multiple people in your life are asking questions about this relationship. Instead of retreating to your safe space to get validation, I think you should ask yourself if you are acting in a way that would give off that impr…
/r/MensRights14/08/21 11:21 PM
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I don't even know what you are talking about. What is fragile masculinity?
/r/MensRights14/08/21 11:08 PM
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And you are just as wrong and out of touch as any woman with the same habit. I definitely understand why a male feminist would have the same reaction as a BP woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:06 PM
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TRP uses "hypergamy" like a slur. False. Women hear it like a slur. Any accurate, matter-of-fact description of the SMP is received by women like a slap in the face. Insist that women actually care about money? They actually have far more superficial standards than men? To me, these are mere truths to be adapted to. But if you are a woman, this sounds merely like a loser whining and making excuses for why he can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:21 PM
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The problem with female supremacists is that they don't truly understand the market. In the case of lil Miss Sandberg, she's too clever by half. She seems to be operating under the assumption that most men are so desperate for female attention and companionship that women can take advantage of sexual liberation, put boys into two camps (Not unlike TRP), and just pick and chose who will get laid and who will get married. Even assuming that were true, she and her ilk assume the market won't adapt …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:39 PM
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Well I didn't say every case. I said plenty of women set an arbitrary height standard. "Taller than me" vs. "Must be 6ft to ride." So, Correct. Women want to generally be shorter than their man. Which is why height is an easy shit test to overcome. A man of average height will be taller than the vast majority of women. "Must be 6ft to ride," generally speaking is a shit test and not a standard. But the truth is that height is almost always a shit test, and not a true standard, but comes with var…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:19 PM
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Utterly deranged. I'm sure this father has his flaws. He's human. But... at least we know that he knows his son is a boy. In a sane society, this mother would not even have unsupervised visitation. To anyone thinking this can't happen to you because you live in one of the "good states," this is TX. Even Texans aren't safe from the predations on little boys.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 06:37 PM
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Oh, it happens to girls more often actually. Just not as much at this age. With girls, it's more prominent in the teen years.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 06:35 PM
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I am in favor. Men have to protect themselves. I think people have to have a bit of grace in this regard. It's normal for people to get suspicious in a relationship, and it's especially normal for suspicions to be correct. If I'm in a committed relationship with someone, I'm entitled to know who they're talking to and how they're talking to them. If my woman isn't cool with that, bye. I would rather be with someone who values transparency, and cares about offering reassurance to her man, rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:31 PM
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Sure. Plenty of women set an arbitrary height standard. Consistent with RP thought, women will break this "rule" for a certain type of guy. Overcoming this test comes down to having game, looks, or high social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:19 PM
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Glad you clarified "for fun." The Myers-Briggs is only slightly more useful than astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:06 PM
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Height might be the easiest shit test to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:03 PM
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Your height would be relevant information here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:00 PM
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What does "well proportioned" mean? This can mean he's an Adonis, but it could also mean he's proportionately flubby all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:57 PM
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College students are very financially literate. Also, for some reason, all of these financially literate people caused a debt crisis. Going to guess you've never actually been to uni and have a big chip on your shoulder about it. Paying my way through school right now. The literal dumbest, most naive people I have ever met have been in college. I don't know why people on the internet think they can infer the worst about you based on a disagreement. Most people in college work part time or do int…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:03 PM
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wouldn't be happy doing this type of work long term. The scenario was 4 years. I know someone who is an exceptional waitress. . . She's actually kind of a shitty person . . . themself to entitled idiots all day every day is usually a People Pleaser. And people pleasing is actually a type of manipulation I'm actually just going to leave this as is. I hope as many people read your comment as possible, and the mark of "intelligence" will be one's ability to infer how you feel about people you belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:51 PM
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Dude, you say this as if I didn't offer an explanation. From another comment: Don't lose sight of the scenario. We are talking about two women of the same age, one has been working full-time for 4 years, the other has been in college for 4 years. Does getting through college require you to participate in the workforce? Does getting through college require you to be financially literate? Does getting through college require you to provide your own housing? Does getting through college require you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:45 PM
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No I didn't. I outright stated that waiting tables builds character to a degree that college simply does not. I explained the reasoning in a separate comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:43 PM
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Like you said, it's a proximity bias. We mate within our socioeconomic circles not because we desperately want to be with our economic equal, but because of proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:39 PM
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I grew up poor, work in tech and do not have a degree. I'm working toward my degree in the cheapest, most efficient way I can: Part time and out of pocket. I'm not anti-college. But teenagers tend to go to school at the wrong time for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:38 PM
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Who do you think is going to be more grounded in the real world? All these women in here love to talk about how 30+ y/o women are AcKsHuLLy better than younger women, because they're oh-so mature in comparison. But what do you think matures people? Living and interacting with the real world. The actual marketplace. Actually having to contribute something of value. Actually having to put the needs and wants of others before yourself. That's not to say all waitresses are goddesses (not that you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:33 PM
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What can you gain from waiting tables full-time that you don't gain from attending college? If you sincerely can't come up with an answer, maybe reconsider engaging further.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:35 PM
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Don't lose sight of the scenario. We are talking about two women of the same age, one has been working full-time for 4 years, the other has been in college for 4 years. Does getting through college require you to participate in the workforce? Does getting through college require you to be financially literate? Does getting through college require you to provide your own housing? Does getting through college require you to consider the needs of anyone besides yourself? Getting through college has…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:17 PM
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What does "has a better character" mean? Even if someone is as intelligent as their credentials guarantee, how does that correlate to character? Does getting a high school diploma also require character?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:00 PM
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Actually, no. It does not. That is not the same as saying that college graduates are all lazy and without character.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:56 PM
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To me, character matters more than credentials.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:41 PM
0

This information is of little use to anyone, but keep speaking your truth, sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:36 PM
1

Yeah, men do want traditional relationships. But the number of traditional women, with the actual skills of a wife/mother, are lacking. Maybe 10-20% of women under 30 are worth a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:20 PM
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Fair enough, but as a guy, I would take the girl who spent four years waiting tables over the girl with a 4 year degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:13 PM
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You can be fat and not obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:08 PM
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Broadly, I have no problems with age gap relationships, as they make sense on the surface. Personally, my only standard is that I wouldn't want to date a woman seriously who is closer in age to my son than she is to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:07 PM
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The words you're looking for are "social proof" and "preselection." And you are far more loose with the "friend" label than I am. I actually see this more often in women. There are a number of women I'm friendly with, met through work, etc. Those women would describe me as a friend, or "just a friend," but I would not use the same language to describe them. They're a acquaintance or perhaps "a girl I know from work" or maybe if I'm feeling nice, a "work friend." What you're describing isn't frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:04 PM
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thus the virtues of the average woman is irrelevant as far as they're concerned. This post is essentially about what female friends contribute specifically regarding dating. The average woman has never, and will never, give her male friends advice that gets them a date, let alone gets them laid. Just because there are a few women out here who've "set so-and-so up" with someone doesn't disprove that. Go ahead and poll the room. I know I've had plenty of female "friends" in my life, not a single o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:55 PM
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Simply to answer the question, no. Promiscuous women, on average, are not as reliable in LTRs if you were to strictly go off of the data. More likely to cheat, more likely to divorce, both by significant margins. Does that guarantee that she's going to cheat? No. Does that guarantee that she's going to divorce you later? No. However, I find it interesting that people so easily look past being a hoe, but not being a cheater. After all, a remorseful woman who has cheated in the past isn't "guarant…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:42 PM
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The Myers-Briggs is not much better than astrology tbh. You are better off using the Big 5. Personality "typing" is basically just for fun ("Which flavor of ice cream are you???")
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:44 PM
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I don't. I just know that Cerno chose to be a SAHD. Normally, that implies the woman earns money while the Dad doesn't. In his case, he's already built himself up to massive success and wealth before making the SAHD transition. It could be true that she is also a SAHM, and they are both living off his dime still. It doesn't ultimately matter if she earns more or not, because Cerno remains an extreme exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:37 PM
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Also, who said anything about cheaters or abusers? Why are you bringing them up? It's the logical follow up to this argument. You are trying to play semantic tricks, which is cheap. The fact is that women are leaving their husbands at a large rate. That's why "who initiates" matters. There are two ways to exonerate women from this statistic Claim they are leaving due to abuse and cheating Claim that women aren't "leaving" at a rapid rate, they just happen to be the ones who file This really isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:29 PM
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You are now trying to sell this idea that divorces are generally mutual. Good luck being taken seriously. If it were a mere coinflip on who filed the paperwork, the number would be close to 50%. Not 70-80% of divorces initiated by women. If it were because all these men were cheaters, the data would bear that out. But, the most generous data (to women) only shows men cheating marginally more than women. Not significant enough to cause women to file so many divorces because they're being cheated …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 07:30 PM
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I couldn't tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 07:11 PM
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I wouldn't rely on Myers-Briggs, personally. It's essentially the "Which Harry Potter character are you?" tests that you see on Facebook. Or astrology. Nowadays, the Big 5 test is probably the most reputable for learning something objective about your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:29 PM
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It would stand to reason that the minority that don't divorce are happier than everyone else. No matter how you slice it, it ultimately comes down to mate selection, which is a cultural problem. Women don't involve their parents in their dating lives nowadays. Fair enough, you want your independence and privacy. But there's a reasonable amount of involvement that I would encourage. But common sense would tell you that women who have weak/absent fathers are not going to have a reasonable perspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:26 PM
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This is hamstering though. When presented with the data that women initiate the vast majority of divorces, we must assume, without evidence, that it must still be the man's fault. It's just an invitation to not be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:16 PM
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Does someone have hurt feelings? DM me if you are feeling too hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:13 PM
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REEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:05 PM
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However, the one standard men have -- not being promiscuous -- causes women to fly into fits of rage Well, this is far from the one standard. I have standards for age, children, and weight as well. Still, your point stands. These are not difficult bars to clear as a woman. Literally don't be fat, don't be a hoe, don't have children. The truth is, a large plurality of women don't live up to those very simple standards. N-count isn't something that can be fixed, only prevented. So the women who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:58 PM
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No disagreements here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:17 PM
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Cars are classified by year, make, and model. A 2013 camry and a 2015 camry are the same make and model. Different year. Stop being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:13 PM
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a bikini model whose two favorite hobbies are video games and blowjobs. Damn. I'll settle for the bikini model who just likes blowjobs I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:07 AM
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Well, the downside is that you're left without status. Part of the problem with being a househusband is that you less outcome independent compared to a woman in that situation. After all, security in a relationship, as a man, partially comes from your options/abundance. A househusband has significantly less options than other men, because women simply don't get wet for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:45 AM
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Well, the data trends toward divorce in those marriages. The data I've looked at shows that divorce rates skyrocket when the woman earns more. I'm not saying it can't work, per se. Look at Mike Cernovich... But it's pretty clear that being a stay at home dad is part of his purpose, and he built up a large following, made a lot of money, and gained a lot of clout before making the decision to stay at home with his kids. Even the "exception" isn't truly an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:42 AM
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but if you’re old enough to be your partner’s parent, then your marriage might be in trouble.” This is a far cry away from a "significant" preference for 0-2 years lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:33 AM
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Not really. There's data regarding women trending toward men a few years older, but there's no data suggesting that women "significantly" prefer men 2 years older. That's a very midwitty way to look at the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:12 AM
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In my humble opinion, 1 is far more important than 2. The unfortunate truth is that our personality is developed at a very early age, and your personality rarely, if ever, changes. When it does change, it's slightly and with substantial conscious effort. The classic truism in psychology is the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. E.g. a woman that's too agreeable is never going to become disagreeable in truth; however, with substantial effort she can learn to improve her negotiati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:11 AM
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That being said my point is a lot of dudes on PPD equating "fun" with "casual sex". I think you've got this backwards. If you agree with me, this is the point. Men are the only ones calling it like it is. Women use "fun" as the reason for not getting married, and as you said, that's not really a valid excuse.... unless fun=sex. I absolutely do not equate fun with sex. But when women say that they don't want to get married because they want to have "fun," I'm going to call it like it is. I'm goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:58 PM
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This is, indeed, a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:50 PM
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Would you prefer a house husband over a man who outearns you? If so, you'd be an extreme outlier, which is another reason men do not aspire to be a house husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:47 PM
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Two points: The data would suggest that when women earn more, money matters more. Despite all of the equality talk, I find a sore lack of women searching for a househusband. You are right in a sense, but merely "finding a relationship" isn't the goal for the vast majority of women. For women, quality matters more than anything, and the chances of ugly women finding a quality man are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:00 PM
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"Just be rich bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:53 PM
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This is just another example of working backwards from a conclusion. There's no shortage of women posting on here "I did this and here's why I'm right"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:02 PM
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This is a fine perspective to have, as long as you don't go through life feeling entitled to marriage and commitment from a man "on your level" at 30+ years old. The issue men have is not with women choosing to have a career, it's with women having the false belief that they can have it all without consequences or accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:42 PM
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Well, the best thing I can say for that statement is that it is, indeed, a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:37 PM
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So you have two cars, both run adequately, same exact make and model: 3 year old car, 50,000 miles 10 year old car, 180,000 miles Would you suggest the second car is more valuable than the first car, simply because it's proven that it can go 180k miles?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:35 PM
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I've worked in mental health and noticed the correlation. I also qualified the statement, so try to keep the REEEEEs to a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:31 PM
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I repeat Anecdotes are anecdotal Keep living your truth, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:18 PM
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No. Women present "fun" as a reason to not get married, then cite examples of "fun" that marriage wouldn't prevent. The only type of "fun" that marriage gets in the way of, is sex. Marriage does require commitment and you can't be entirely selfish. Yeah, you can't necessarily do whatever the hell you want to do without regard to another's input, but that's hardly preventing anyone from having fun. I reject the notion that a woman who spend her 20s being selfish suddenly became the paragon of fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:17 PM
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Live your best life, but as long as you understand that this strategy and mindset is: Not full-proof Not representative of the broader population Then I have nothing to add, really. Anecdotes are anecdotal. Women have the unfortunate idea that marriage is a risky proposition for them, and low risk for men. It's precisely the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:51 PM
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"I'm a PhD" -KS soundbite While I agree with the former that the UN is trash, is a pessimistic, competitive, dominant woman more likely to bring joy to my life than the latter? No, she's not. The only red flag for the latter is that she's a grown woman with stuffed animals. That can be explained away, potentially, but it's a possible sign of emotional instability (Borderline). Frankly, I don't get "impressed" by a potential lovers accomplishments, and that's what feels like the sell for the form…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:35 PM
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30 year old woman that has spent 7+ years in an LTR with an N count of less than 3 is vastly different than your 30 year old straw hoe. Agreed. I don't speak in absolutes, only generalizations. So she might not be a hoe, but there's still more baggage there than a 23 year old with an N count of 3. Swearing off women over 30 (generally speaking) is merely a protective measure. Speaking to men, men can understand how wifing up an older woman is riskier than wifing up a younger woman. Women over 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:27 PM
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Really now? Never had a one night stand or first-date-sex? Sure. Further, you are implying that marriage gets in the way of cycling, concerts and photography. What? Hear that ladies? When you get married, no more creativity! Thank you for admitting that this original post was about self-validation, and not an objective claim, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:41 PM
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This narrative again? Let's hash it out. I don't want a woman who's been ran through. If you went through your entire twenties without getting hitched, I'm sorry, but you've probably been ran through. She's recreational use only. When will y'all realize that the men you want to marry, don't want to marry hoes, and they won't believe you ain't a hoe if you're past 30 and single. Maybe you ain't a hoe now, at this precise moment in time... but give it a few years. Let that woman go just a few more…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:38 PM
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fun in your 20s has absolutely NOTHING to do with sleeping around! Considering the reason for not getting married in your twenties is "I want to have fun before settling down," I'm gonna call bullshit on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:28 PM
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Do you also combine LTR breakups and divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:09 PM

You clearly took a cursory glance at my sentence and decided to go on your own irrelevant tangent, seeing as you not only refused to answer my question, but attributed terms I didn't use. Twice. Which is something I could look past if my comment were as long and tangential as yours, but it's just a single question. Why even start a post if you don't care what other people have to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:05 PM

I think I'm missing something because this appears to be a non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:55 PM

Do you think women are going to have a better shot at optimizing their hypergamy at 23 or 33?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:52 PM
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Who cares? I'm not even talking about people who've started LTRs (vast majority of which fail) from Tinder, which is still dumb as a guy. Having a Tinder is evidence of being a hoe, and we don't wife up hoes, do we... This is the fundamental communication barrier. One side, mostly men, live according to what's probable. The other side, mostly women, live according to what's possible. "Well, gee, it's not impossible that a sweet little waifu is out there on Tinder, so you should totally shoot you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:38 PM
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Unfortunately Tinder will never truly be that in the mainstream. Especially because Tinder is a convenient filter. If you are considering a woman for an LTR, and you notice she has a Tinder account, you know not to take the relationship further. It does men no good to muddy the waters with "YoU KnOw SoMe PeOpLe UsE iT fOr LoVe"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:50 PM
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You are not smart if you think he is whining. It's just a statement of observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:44 PM
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Aren't these pretty superficial considerations? "Ew, I might have to care for you when you're sick? No Thanks." I don't think I would want to seriously date any woman with that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:34 PM
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Sure but are old broke men even a factor here? That would be a rare exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:28 PM
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Unfortunately, you are inserting implications into what I'm arguing. You haven't refuted a single thing I've said, but you seem so ready to pounce with your opinion. There are always prettier, hotter women. Agreed. And most of them are 18-24. So hurrying quickly into marrige because of possible future "competition" doesn't make sense. Agreed. You shouldn't hurry into marriage, and most modern women are not marriable. There are always more attractive women. Agreed. Most of them are 18-24. My poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:03 PM
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I never claimed it was easy to attract top tier men, period. My perspective is that the vast majority of women are not fit for marriage at all, even for average guys A "top tier man" is in a position to be even more selective than the average guy. And women in their thirties have less options, obviously. I don't know how that's even up for debate. You get less options with every passing decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 10:39 PM
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I never called you old, I agree women at 28 are still attractive. I don't know what the fuck you think you read. This is why I wanted to make sure you were being good-faith about the conversation. Lesson learned I guess. And you are an anomaly, by your own admission. Most girls are not invisible to men, period, even average girls. And most girls do not hit a "glow up" at 25. So what meanung does "the wall" have if a woman can be attractive later as well? It's not a dichotomy. Imagine a chart. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 10:33 PM
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Well, lets simplify it. The wall simply refers to the beginning of the decline, attraction-wise. That can vary from person to person, and the wall can be pushed back with self-care and even a modest amount of cosmetic surgery. Part of the reason it varies is because individual peaks vary. Most women are most hot from the ages of about 18-24, somewhere in that range. Specific to your questions, it depends on if you were a late bloomer or if you simply started taking care of yourself (lost a bunch…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 08:25 PM
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No. It's the beginning of the decline, attraction-wise, i.e. SMV (sexual market value). There is no absolute, but your number of suitors correlates with your SMV. If you were a 9 at age 21, and now you are a 7, congrats you are post-wall. Even though 7s are hot, and get plenty of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 08:01 PM
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The wall is the beginning of the decline, attraction-wise. It's the moment in life that your pool of suitors decreases. It doesn't mean you'll die an old maid. Why do women care? Because they've been taught that if they pursue career and status (the things they find attractive in men), and wait until their late 20s to start dating seriously, they will have a better life because they will be a #girlboss, and they will actually attract a higher caliber of men because they are so impressive. Why wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:58 PM
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If you are asking these questions sincerely, I can actually give a reasonable answer. I just don't want to waste my time if you are asking in bad-faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:41 PM
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What's the wall, in your own words?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:38 PM
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Dear God, the cringe. Women peak early. Anyone disagree with that? Anyone disagree that young women have more suitors than older women? Any takers? Well, if you agree with that, you agree with the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:38 PM
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It's absolutely part of what RP thinks. What? I've never met someone who's RP who doesn't believe the following: Women peak early. There you go, that's the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:35 PM
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How is this even considered an anecdotal point of consideration? The 22 year old gets off on the idea of dating a MILF, but we all know that shit is temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:31 PM
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You have to realize that no matter how you feel, reality remains. The truth is that a younger woman is in a better position to secure a man she wants to be with than an older woman. The older you get, your pool of suitors shrinks. If you don't want kids, your pool of suitors shrinks. You want a man who's an assertive leader? Guess what, your pool of suitors shrinks. How much money do you plan on earning? If you want a man "on your level," your pool of suitors shrinks. You want him to be fit? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:08 PM
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When you see the same/similar gender roles across virtually every culture, the whole "brainwashed by religion" argument falls flat on it's face. What is really happening is that you take personally the implication that you belong in a neat little box... fair enough. But you can't rewrite history and anthropology and evolution, and pretend traditional gender roles are "merely" social constructs. Whether or not gender roles are "good" is irrelevant, and frankly, the RP crowd rarely (if ever) addre…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:32 PM
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I'm not the one claiming there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:46 AM
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Oh please lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:08 PM
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No it doesn't, and I don't think that. It's a statement of fact, and the statement in context is pretty clear tbh, and leaves little to be inferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:46 PM
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Lots of people, but I am not the one expecting love to be fair. I don't understand how you came to that conclusion from reading my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:02 PM
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I think it's important to bring these ideas to light, but I don't bemoan women having their preferences. A lot of this attraction/arousal dynamic is not a choice, but a process that has evolved over millennia. Men and women both have their own biological programming, which can be challenged and overcome, hence the phrase "hypergamy is not a straight jacket." Frankly, neither is polygyny. Religious and cultural values, geography, etc. can all play a role. Whether or not a woman has consolidated o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:59 PM
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Women do have high standards... How is this even controversial. The problem is that women have a tendency to label men who don't fit their standards, which are often arbitrary and superficial, as "trash." Meanwhile, if you are RP and you tell men to level up on looks and money because women have high standards, you are the superficial one? Women are not ashamed of their standards, nor should they be. However, female standards often conflict (or seem to conflict) with their stated values. Far mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:02 PM
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Accurate as hell, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:09 PM
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Good for him. Even without the adultery, more men need to draw a hard line against wifing up hoes.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 07:16 PM
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Sorry my preferences don't line up with your BMI chart, which no one takes seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:02 PM
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We're seeing the market shift in real time. Men are waking up and drawing boundaries, and there are more women with a platform willing to speak out strongly against feminism and in favor of having children and being married. People are waking up to the destructive nature of single motherhood. I'm seeing more people address the destructive relationship between boys and the education establishment. There are other things, but the point is that I'm seeing more people waking up to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:42 PM
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My wife doesn't wear makeup and is naturally stunning. That's not to say she doesn't spend money on beauty products, but "beauty products" is a pretty broad tent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:10 PM
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I'm more optimistic. I think in 10 years time, the pendulum will be in full reverse, and we're seeing glimmers of this now. And by "reverse," I mean that we will swing back toward traditional roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:08 PM
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The problem is that TRP always states than men must becomen that alpha No it doesn't. It provides a predictive framework for the SMP. MGTOW is a perfect example of TRP stating exactly the opposite: Don't worry about that shit and move on with your life. I'm not MGTOW, but that's the easiest counter to the point above. without considering that a) even though women will probably want to fuck you, they will reject you for a LTR This is where BP guys tend to show that they aren't versed in the liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:06 PM
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Yet, there's no shortage of people ignoring what's actually said in the survey, ready to espouse crackpot theories and/or wear their confirmation bias on their sleeve.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:01 PM
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Don't I get to decide what's pushing it, since I am the one answering the question about what I'm sexually aroused by?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:40 PM
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No, I'm going to go off of how she looks. If she looks good, good for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:24 PM
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To be fair, I misspoke. I should have said pant size, not dress size. Either way, most women just don't understand that men like little waists. How many women talking shit about a size 4 actually spend hours per week in the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:06 PM
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Yes, as long as it's size 4 and under. Sorry I like fit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:02 PM
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This is a dumb comment on at least 3 levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:01 PM
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I think a lot of women lie to themselves. Size 4 is pushing it. The only way a size 4 is going to be not fat: Very tall or Muscular w/big butt. Most women hit a size 4 and you can see they're starting to get a little chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:02 PM
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If it didn't matter what internet strangers though, you wouldn't comment. Let alone try to sound superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:59 PM
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What you'll find people doing online is they'll get very mad, and then preface their replies with "lmfao" because they believe condescension makes them appear superior, whereas they would honestly just come out looking better if they were being genuine. If what I said hurt your feelings, or if you want to know why I have my standards, feel free to ask. But trying to be condescending doesn't make you look better or smarter, it just makes you look rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:20 PM
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That's a lot of typing to try and sound smart. Your framing is dishonest because you are discounting the "neutral" category. You don't even bring it up. Over 50% of women 18-24, using your own data, do not care. And that number grows with age. But what you are arguing is that because 49 women rated bald men unattractive, you win? This whole post is weak on at least 3 levels. My argument is, and always has been, that most women don't actually care about baldness, as evidenced by your own source, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:05 PM
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This is why confirmation bias combined with data misrepresentation is so bad. This is premature football spiking and an eagerness to say "I told you so." I'll ignore the pitiful sample size because it doesn't really matter. What if we phrased it this way: "Less than 50% of women rate bald men as unattractive, survey finds." This is just as factually correct as OP's football spiking. Also, you'll notice that as women get older, they are more attracted to bald men. I normally hate the cliched "Cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:30 PM
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Men here think that when women in the past were forced to settle, they were having wild care free sex with husbands And with this one line, OP has decided that they have no interest in being taken seriously, nor taking you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:06 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:59 PM
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Okay, but why is it bad to like perky tits? Is it also bad to like nice booties? Is it bad for a woman to be turned on by muscles? Is a woman obligated to be aroused by a little penis? What if a woman isn't aroused by a man who is 5' tall, is that superficial? If a woman becomes less aroused by her husband because he puts on weight, is that disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:54 PM
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So here's the distinction between childfree and childless. Childfree people either hate kids or They "like kids" but are okay with the kids they apparently like being labeled crotch-goblins. Stop trying to sanitize what childfree means. There's a reason you guys call yourselves childfree and not childless, and it's because it denotes a worldview that polite society would deem toxic. Spoiler alert: because it is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:46 PM
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A relationship like what, and why exactly is it disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:40 PM
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No sex: Fat, as in over dress size 4 (4 is pushing it), unhygienic, dating one of my friends Only sex: Thin/fit women who don't share my values (Christian. Come at me.). As a rule of thumb, sourced from Online dating, bar, club, beach, vacation. Feminists, known N-count too high, suspected too-high N-count, hoe/slutty reputation, not maternal, doesn't have class, dresses provocatively, danger zone and up, single moms, doesn't want kids. Commit/Marry: Shares my values, dresses modestly, wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:38 PM
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Let's remember that "childless" and "Childfree" are two different things. People dislike Childfree folks because they actively dislike kids in an arrogant, and to a borderline psychotic, degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:25 PM
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I mean, sorry I like perky tits? I don't know why it's ungrateful. I'm very grateful, so grateful that I'm going to buy my wife brand new tits lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:22 PM
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I have a few non-judgmental questions for you. Why are you not okay with your boyfriend wanting you to get plastic surgery? Would that change if he was your husband? Do you think your mind will change as you age? I think the truth is that women are fine with saggy tits until it's their tits starting to sag, and they catch their husbands checking out younger girls. Especially post-partem body image. Women struggle with body image after pregnancy as well as during. While you can whip your body bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:55 PM
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I wouldn't even call it a kink really. Truth is, most guys are working within a niche of the dating market, because most guys (even HVM) are going to have some arbitrary physical trait or characteristic that with disqualify them from a large pool of women. Hell, a woman's mood can often disqualify a man that she'd otherwise drop her panties for. The point is this: Will women disqualify you based on being bald? Yeah. Will some of those women "break that rule" for a certain type of guy? Also yeah.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:40 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:40 AM
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I have never heard the term "masculine of center," and it's without a doubt the most obnoxious thing I've heard today. That being said, women who birth children are more feminine than women who don't. Whether or not someone "must" do anything? I can't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:40 AM
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This is grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:32 AM

As someone who married his girl from high school, before age 21, and did the long distance thing, I do not recommend going down that same path. Also, I'm still happily married to that woman today. I've maintained frame and we've both kept our appearance a priority. I just took a very unrecommended route to get my happy marriage. Generally speaking, men shouldn't get married that young, nor should they do long distance. I consider myself and my relationship to be an anomaly. So I don't go around …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:05 AM

For real. They don't know what they're talking about. I mean, on one hand, women could have evolved to be more selective with their mates, due to the natural risk and burden of having children, and humans developed a disgust response to promiscuity as a result... Or it's just sexist men who want to control women's bodies. I don't know, I guess it's 50/50. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:42 AM

Generally, we have the same view of all hoes. They are disqualified from being wives/LTRs. I don't know why that equals "hate"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:24 AM
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You just literally made my point about being FOS lmao. You didn't "see" shit from "back then" because you are in your 20s. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:44 PM
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OP, I think a better way to ask this question is to ask the women how they have handled this type of guy, not how would they. Filters out the women who don't know what TF they are talking about. Truth is, timid and awkward guys turn most girls off. So if you've never actually approached a shy guy, or tried to make it work with Mr. Awkward-and-Timid, nobody cares what you think. I mean, are you looking for advice for real life? Are you interested in Mr. Shy-Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:29 PM
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Nah. I'll break it down like this: Girl fucks 37 dudes, she's a hoe Girl sucks 37 dicks, but only fucks 3, she's still a hoe Dude fucks 37 chicks, he's a playyyaaaaa Dude licks 37 chicks, but doesn't fuck them?... He's definitely not a playa, he's a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:00 PM
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It all counts for something. A woman won't factor blowjobs into her N-count, but men largely view BJs as the same, or nearly the same, as sex. If you know that your woman has a N-count of 3, and then later on you learn as Dante does in Clerks that she's sucked 37 dicks, you are going to feel some type of way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:45 PM
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Well, men do have a dual sexual nature, too. Whore/Madonna. If you are a whore, men want to fuck you; men want to marry a Madonna. Women love to hate on the whore/Madonna dichotomy, and really focus in on it, and whine about the unrealistic expectations of it... but totally want you to look the other way when it comes to the dual nature of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:38 PM
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In my view, it's far easier for a woman to satisfy a man's sexual fantasies than it is for a man to satisfy a woman's relationship fantasies. Watch some porn, then read some erotic fiction, and tell me which one is more realistic. The dudes put on display in these narratives are caricatures of men. And you can say that porn stars are caricatures, and fair enough, but it's far easier for a woman to shove a dick down her throat and get her ass smacked than it is for a man to cultivate a contradict…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:32 PM
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You are either too old and out of touch to have relevant opinions on today's sexual marketplace, or you're full of shit about "believe what I see"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:18 PM
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90% of men "back in the day" were working on a farm, in a mine, on a skyscraper, etc. If they were "away" it was at their hard AF job where often times, they were literally at risk of a painful death. Not to mention going to war, where "back in the day" you didn't leave for a few months to a year at a time; you left, and you came back 5 years later. Contrary to the feminist narrative, Mad Men is not representative of real life for the vast majority of men who have ever lived. But nahh, go on bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:46 PM

Wow, Lilith discovered that the most attractive women get the most messages. Checkmate, MGTOW!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:29 PM
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Dating discussions here usually seem to assume strangers. Yet this may be one of the top ways romantic relationships are formed. To be fair, I think most discussions around here tend to revolve around pickup and sex. Anyways, my only issue with this is: How do people define "friend?" I have people in my life whom I wouldn't actually call a "friend," but they would probably refer to me as a friend, simply because some people are more loose with the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:19 AM
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Specifically, you seem to be suggesting that a woman can have consensual sex with 2,000 men and retain the same biochemistry, and pair bond just as effectively, as a woman who has only had sex with her husband. That's the majority of the comment you asked for a source for. Yeah, the Atlantic study does suggest that N-count has an affect on pair-bonding. Does it have an effect on oxytocin release specifically? Not sure. It's not an unreasonable conclusion to draw, since that's the pair-bonding ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:46 PM
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It's still part of the bigger picture. 2 things are true: Higher N-count women release less Oxy Higher N-count women divorce at far higher rates Even though the Oxytocin claim isn't the whole picture, it's useful to know because it has some explanatory power, even if it's not the only explanation for why hoes suck at marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:30 PM
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Yes and you are bad at debate. Crying for a source is not debate. But, if you want me to hold your hand and guide you while I'm working, I will just tell you that the Atlantic (among others) reported data showing skyrocketing divorce rates for women with a N-count of greater than 4. Women who marry with low N-counts have better marriage outcomes than hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:55 PM
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And a lot of dudes get strung along by women who enjoy their nonsexual attention. He needs to ensure that woman is aroused by him early on to protect against being strung along. If the first girl lied about wanting to be with him for a few weeks (or months), or if she just "changed her mind" and then ran off with someone else after receiving free attention, validation and resources, he's going to be hesitant to offer that same patience to the second girl who wants to "make him wait."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:47 PM
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I'm at work. But yeah I'll get one for you. Any more hand holding you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:38 PM
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First of all fucking someone isn’t the only way to show interest in someone It's how you show arousal. If you've fucked on the first date in the past, and you refuse to do so in the present, there are a few reasons for that. But generally, the guy who got the first date sex, or the one night stand, or the guy from the foam cannon party in Cancun (Rollo's favorite example), was simply more arousing to you than the guys you make wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:50 PM
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No. But you seem to be suggesting that multiple successive sexual partners has no impact on the release of oxytocin, which is not consistent with the scientific literature. Specifically, you seem to be suggesting that a woman can have consensual sex with 2,000 men and retain the same biochemistry, and pair bond just as effectively, as a woman who has only had sex with her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:18 PM
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What in the brain distinguishes between 1 dick 2,000 times and 2,000 dicks one time? Oxytocin
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:20 AM
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This is fairly consistent with RP tbh. Women look at 4 things: looks, money, status, "vibe." College girls would rate looks (and vibe) at the top. That might change later and life. And frankly, it can change contextually as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:44 AM
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If you want to cater to women and blue pilled men, just spin an RP truth in a flattering light. Hypergamy: "Women tend to be especially wise with their partners. It's not likely for a woman to get with a bum, amirite?" Note the difference in reaction that you get from women when phrased this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:35 AM
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What a convenient excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:49 PM
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Today I learned that asking someone to define their terms objectively is a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:12 PM
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You did it yourself. You have absolutely no proof that a significant portion of women lying on those surveys. You never have any "proof" that anyone is ever lying on any survey, but it's broadly considered the inherent flaw of surveying people. And frankly, it's common sense that women lie about their sexual history. You could at least pretend that you want to be taken seriously. And further, my initial comment didn't hinge on the fact that women lie about their sexual past. My initial argument,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:11 PM
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I mean, you don't get to caricature somebody's argument and then cry foul when you get a taste of your own medicine. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:29 PM
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I'm already seeing a lot of top comments calling this a bad take.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:19 PM
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"Women would never lie about their sexual past!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:10 PM
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Thanks for wasting everyone's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:09 PM
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