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There has been a shift in dynamic. The way to get a wife was to be a consistent person who was respectable and responsible. Society created ways to make our carnal sexual desires taboo. Like most females on earth, women like to select men with the best genetics of their specie. Now that those taboos are being lifted, the old talking points of "be good and responsible" and you will get a mate is somewhat outdated. The red pill is the pusback to that notion because now it is an extremely competiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:01 PM
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They said they were a stock broker, but we just work with stocks. A lie of about 900k per year. Sadly it worked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:38 PM
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Lie about their occupation and income
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:58 PM
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And yet you dismissed everyone else's observations, and you very observably didn't listen to real women when they spoke here, and instead projected your own emotional thought experiment onto them. I am an extremely listening type of guy. Women in these forums are way more invested in these conversations than average. It may be hard to accept but I'm honestly not projecting but discussing. You also didn't actually present your personal observations beyond the fact that you know some single women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:26 AM
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Yes, I agree this is what you are saying, and I will again reiterate that this is merely a projection of your own feelings, not reality. It is based on observation and listening not emotions. I did not say, nor did I intend to imply that you believe women are obligated to feel a certain way by some kind of force or law— and that’s a ridiculous interpretation anyways. You said I believe women "should" be dying for male attention which I never said or implied. So do you think it is rare for a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 07:22 PM
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I still don't agree with your use of the word should. A more accurate representation would be to say "you believe a woman values male attention even if she said she doesnt". The word "should" is not the only mischaracterization of my point and dishonestly. The phrase "attention from strangers" has also been used to stretch my point past believability. Those seemingly minor things to you are major to me, as in my experience, those little stretches of my words are never condusive to an honest disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 12:23 PM
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Not those literal words in that precise order, correct-- and wow, is that an unproductive addition to the conversation. It was a great addition to the conversation because also while it was not my literal words, the meaning of the words you chose to put in my mouth is completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:05 PM
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You believe that all women should all want strange male attention (unless they have grandbabies) and will be very sad when that attention dropped off based on a thought experiment, Your words, My thought experiment is that when men actually stop giving you attention, your life will be in crisis if you don't have kids and grandkids to take your attention off of that fact. My words. No where did I say "I believe women should want attention from strange men"...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:32 PM
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I was using water as an analogy for male attention. Not literally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:12 PM
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All that stuff is based upon how others see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:09 PM
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When more people jump in, the original points get distorted because you are vaguely arguing off of another argument. Back to my original point: "most people like attention from the other sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:08 PM
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I think the real distortion is the hoop jumping to just not have to say that women like male attention...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:06 PM
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I don't have a revenge fantasy lol...That does not even equate to this discussion. You've added tons of words to my mouth which is dishonest like: "You believe that all women should all want strange male attention (unless they have grandbabies)" This discussion continues to be unfruitful. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:05 PM
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It turns out water is quite a bit more valuable in places where clean drinking water is scarce, yeah. Where I live in New York City, and from what I observe women say from all over my country. "Clean drinking water" is hard to come by. That individual simply said that as long as male attention is easy to get, it's not worth much. After having these discussions with women for years, they point out that it is the quality of the water and not the quantity they look for. That being said, the cleanes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:56 PM
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But to the individual, water has the same value and purpose despite availability. Add in the fact that we see women struggle to get clean water consistently, and I think you see the exaggeration of your response. People are thirsty all around us, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:43 PM
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Some people think they can live without water until it is gone. Because one takes something for granted does not mean they are accurate in their percieved value systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:31 PM
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I don't see how manufacturing an idea that I am arguing women do value men's attention because I have a "revenge fantasy" is not an insult. You did not say I am not in touch with my feelings, you declared something negative about my intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:28 PM
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Maybe the disconnect is that I said the word value, and you said the word rely. I think they imply 2 different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:25 PM
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You are saying because I posted on sex workers I'm not dating a 45 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:24 PM
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What statement would that be??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:56 PM
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Women do not do everything with the goal of gaining attention from strange men who are not friends and family, no matter how much you twist and flail wishing your revenge fantasy were real. This discussion is no longer fruitful. The insults are getting more direct. I'm dating a 45 year old woman so I get good insight from her and her friend circle. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:44 PM
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Right, because school is the only place one can get male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:41 PM
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The post was a q4all directed to both men and women based on how much you value "attention" from the other sex compared to those in your friends and family. I hypothesize pointing out the angle that women don't want to be catcalled by random men was an easy angle to take to discredit the notion from the female side. But the question is more nuanced than simply cat-calling IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:58 PM
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Attention from your spouse/significant other is attention from friends and family and certainly is not based solely on looks. Never said it was... We are talking about attention from male strangers based on how you look. Now I see. You are talking about "attention from male strangers based on how you look". If you read the original post, and care to re-read what I said, the word stranger was never said, and it does not sound like OP is talking about random catcalls either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:40 PM
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No single older women I know are thrilled "when all the male attention dies off". The married ones with children who are committed seem to be the ones who truly don't care. Many of them trim their hair very short, don't wear revealing clothing etc... In my opinion those actions (not words) are a true sign that a woman no longer cares as much for male sexuall attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:34 PM
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Most humans have family and friends who give them all the positive attention a person could want Yet most people still want more attention from a spouse (the other sex) It's not a personal attack at all, I'm trying to help you understand that like most young guys you don't see the average just going about her day woman. I see those women every day, as most women in my family are traditional hard workers. My mother is a single mother who never dated anyone since my dad. She is one of the least at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:27 PM
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I mean sort of, but it's more about knowing that other people are quietly finding us attractive (and thus valuable as people, because women link our looks to our value) We both agree women dont want to be catcalled. I will accept "knowing other people quietly finding you attractive" and "women link our looks to our value" as truth. There is no longer a point to this discussion because we are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:24 PM
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I'm not denying there is a woman who enjoy the attention. Heck, I know a 55-year-old who truly believes she's a hot rock star. It is far more than "a" woman. "Most" humans enjoy attention. I think maybe it's because the woman who are not looking for attention don't get your attention? Personal attacks are almost max level before crying. So I'd say you're almost at your wits end. If A woman did not want my attention that would go against my argument of people wanting attention no???? So come with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:09 PM
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Because we live in a society. Right, and in your new world, only a "vocal minority" of women in our society do things for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:01 PM
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women dislike getting older and less attractive because we put a lot of value on what we see in the mirror and the general idea of "existing as an attractive person", Right, and "existing as an attractive person" has nothing to do with attention and other people....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:59 PM
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What is hard for me to understand is why you deny basic human behaviours. You may not see it but what you are doing to me is almost equal to me arguing physical appearance means nothing to men because most men I know didn't marry models
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:48 PM
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I never said the word stranger.....It could be from the cute guy at work etc.....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:31 PM
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Attention because your breasts are large is not positive attention. Why do the majority of women make alterations to their physical appearance, if they don't enjoy attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:31 PM
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When people pay attention to me now it's because of who I am/what I say, not because of what I look like. Are you married or in an LTR? The reason you has this misconception is vapid women whose lives revolve around being the centre of attention are of course doing things like Instagram to draw attention to themselves. Essentially every single woman. Especially under menopause age, and even many over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:28 PM
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I guess if a person valued attention more than anything else it's harder for them. Maybe, but I'd like you to take me to this mythical world where people don't value others attention......
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:51 AM
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If it gets him off more than having sex with me, then why am I there?? Why am I with him? You essentially just boiled yourself down to a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:49 AM
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Fair enough. Even though my angle may indeed be male bias, my thought experiment is based on observations. What I outlined is typical behaviour that I've observed from both men and women as they dislike getting older and more unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:26 AM
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I think you are not in touch with your own feelings. My thought experiment is that when men actually stop giving you attention, your life will be in crisis if you don't have kids and grandkids to take your attention off of that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:04 AM
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Those same exciting men would be every bit as successful with women if they were nice as well. Probably better than when rude/cruel. Of course, but the point is that excitement is more important than niceness when it comes to attracting women. The people going around clinging to only niceness are boring and don't have much else going for them. I don't think anyone is clinging to niceness. I think most people want honesty for 2 reasons: So men can actually learn to do the things that actually att…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:51 AM
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If you look at RP in it's entirety. Sometimes the delivery by the users are bad, but you will find truth in most of the claims made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:22 PM
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Exactly. You just rationalized to yourself an entire portion of RP philosophy. If she is looking to settle down and wants a provider she might sacrifice her need for excitement. AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:15 PM
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If a women is decently looking and just nice (loyal, empathetic, etc.) without anything else going on in her life would she be your first pick? I don't know about first pick, but if she wanted to have a date I'd give it to her and probably marry that type of girl. I have my own happiness and excitement, what I truly need is someone to be a partner, not an exciting friend....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:10 PM
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Of course, but what we can infer from that is that not being bored is the priority. Not necessarily finding a man with nice traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:07 PM
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Nice isn't a personality trait, it's the bare minimum to function in society and if that's all someone brings to the table, of course women will prefer an exciting confident asshole over them. Even though nice is not a personality trait, there are personality traits that make one nice. Loyalty, empathy, etc. What we all know by now is that the traits that make you nice don't attract women the way the traits that make you exciting do. To boot we have all seen women choose a man because of those e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:42 PM
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you overemphasize how much "Sex" is worth to women in the absence of the love companionship and desire she wants. I hypothesize you underemphasize how much "sex" is worth to women because you live in a dense sexually saturated area. You're not like a girl from a farm in Iowa who see's a handful of new people a year. You likely spent your time building up defenses to turn guys away, so never even got to know what it feels like to long for it due to it being unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:48 PM
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there's no way to make me see this. i dont see how there's any combination of words that would make it make sense. it will never be understandable to me. id die alone with cats before accepting less It sounds to me like you've made up your mind before this discussion and no matter what I said you'd avoid it. You are also arguing essentially why settle, when I'm arguing the validity of having adversion to a high n count/a girl not doing for you what she did for others. I hypothesize if you actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 04:00 PM
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i dont see how there's any combination of words that would make it make sense. better to be a bachelor and use escorts Escorts do not swallow either. Most of them would not give you a blowjob without a condom... So this is bad advice in regard to finding a sexually compatible relationship. you dont have to give any woman commitment.. there's no way to make me see this. You don't have to give commitment. Yet Most people would agree not giving a woman a chance who you are compatible with in many o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 01:21 PM
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Part of the reason girls can be spoilt is because sometimes we have to put up with it. As you know most guys don't typically have multiple sexual options they can call at a whim the way arguably most women do. Taking that into account, if a girl that I am compatible with who I was able to charm her into sex does not want to swallow, I would not leave her for that. Partially because I would be single until I am able to charm another. If I then find out that she swallowed for her last 4 boyfriends…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:54 PM
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The question doesn't fully translate from male to female. So of your girlfriend is not doing what you want sexually, just leave her? What if it is your wife of many years with kids, who is vanilla and you put your own desires aside and respected her preference. Yet you find out she used to be promiscuous, known as a freak and was involved in group sex. Do those situations not warrant at least a question from our side of the spectrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:04 PM
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What you may be referring to is monkey branching. I know where you are coming from as it does seem the word hypergamy has absorbed the concept of moneky branching in some forums. But I think that is because it is a fairly new concept to most societies because women were not free to be able to do that. So essentially Monkey Branching is a symptom of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 04:03 PM
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It says marrying into a higher caste/social status. If you think that has nothing to do with the way it is used on red pill, I'd argue you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 11:07 AM
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It says caste or social status. Which I would argue means, money and popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 11:06 AM
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According to Merriam Webster, the first known use of the word hypergamy was in 1883. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:04 AM
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When women say they want men to be more expressive and emotional IMO; They are usually envisioning the sexiest most aggresive man they were ever with, and hoping he was more gentle and expressive so their relationship lasted. They are not talking to men as a whole, because in one day, every woman can find an open, gentle, expressive man. Those qualities are just not priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 07:38 PM
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"No, it’s because I didn’t read them. He posted something demonstrably untrue;" So like I said, you ignored his entire post and cherry picked one thing you knew you could beat. The reason I bring that up is because it is an epidemic of online debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 12:35 PM
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What you respond to was the last paragraph of his rant. It would seem you cherry picked 1 thing you knew you could beat and ignored the rest of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 04:54 PM
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The technicality did negate his argument about spouses. I didn’t really care about the rest You think it's possible that is because they were true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:48 PM
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You're insinuating that most men have bad conduct, a bad attitude and no/bad interests. I would argue if those 3 things were truly your priority you would have dozens of suitors all around you. But you likely want those things on top of a basic set of standards that may be subconscious to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:54 PM
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In fairness to that guy, you avoided all the great points he was making to harp on a technicality of one single point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:06 PM
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What man is gonna turn down a girl if she is not busted? These kids are on the internet to much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 02:48 PM
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Every time a girl was open with me about wanting to get sexual, sexual things happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:54 PM
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Everyone gets burnt once or twice by the other gender IRL. I've been burnt by women a couple times but it has not radicalized me against them. Feeding yourself with fake, online, exaggerated, anonymous hate posts exacerbates radicalization. People who have gotten burnt dozens of times probably experience a similar type of radicalization over a longer period of time, but that is not the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:50 AM
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Which is just as bad I disagree.i don't have access to that sub anymore you need an invite. But what I read on the intro was logical, without hate and corresponded with my own thought experiments. And yet most people who subscribe to this ideology don't give 2 fucks about manipulating someone. As long as it gets them what they want. Being able to manipulate is a sign of understanding no? If I did that, it would be for women to avoid men who believe in this sick cult ideology. So do that. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:09 PM
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You missed the very obvious point I was making, if it's male NATURE to cheat, then there isn't much point pursuing anything serious with you ever. So do you and become an asexual, or start pursuing females. I don't think it's a 'fact' of either, cheating is a choice. You aren't a robot drone with zero free will no matter how many men try to make this absurd claim as to why they cheat. I agree cheating is a choice, but you can probably relate that by your observations men are more promiscuous no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:50 AM
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With 2.2 thousand upvotes, but yeah that's totally insignificant isn't it? I never said it was insignificant. Just that it was something random where if one was not on reddit for a month, one would not see that. Where as the sidebar is what everyone sees and is the actual underlying theory. Interpretation? How does it need to get any clearer? Should he have just said 'LIE SO YOU GET SEX TIL SHE FIGURES IT OUT' What else is the point of deliberately misleading someone? I'll concede what that post…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:47 AM
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So why on earth would we want to be with you? IDK, you do you. I'm not attracted to men, so I can't explain why someone would be. Also if it is in male nature to cheat, then it's also in female nature. So maybe it is, you tell me. Why would you say cheating is female behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:41 AM
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'Female nature' see even this reeks of brainwashing. I could say because more men cheat than women, it is 'male nature' to be cheaters. In a way, it is male nature to be cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:33 AM
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The post about manipulating women has over 2 thousand upvotes lol but sure 'just a random post' So yes, it is a random post and not underlying TRP theory as outlined in the sidebar. Yes, in the sidebar there is also this lovely gem about how 'handle' women asking for a relationship. Instead of being honest about your intentions, you should deliberately be vague (I'm guessing so the man doesn't lose his steady supply of sex when she realises he's not actually interested in a relationship). Your i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:23 AM
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That link comes up as 403:forbidden. By the looks of it that is a random post. If you have access to the trp sub, read the introduction in the sidebar. R/incels got banned and I never heard of the sub you posted. Do you seek out those subs? And if you lie to and abuse women along the way, who cares? Muh nature. I don't agree with some of the posters I've seen and that language usually comes from pain. But all trp is about is understanding female nature, what you choose to do with that knowledge …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:02 AM
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R/incels exists? TRP men aren't logical by definition, their ideology is manipulation. You choose to view it as manipulating through your lens, which likely has partially been formulated by hours of ingesting incel internet posts. I view trp as self betterment. Nature is survival of the fittest and we all evolved to be attracted to the best. To increase your chances, better yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 10:51 AM
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Equally you're lucky we are pussy whipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 10:45 AM
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Maybe since they banned the incel sub. I think of logical guys like smoogs and eastus who have been posting here for years. Myself included, you never see logical TRP men act that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 10:43 AM
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You are taking in data on incel's online behavior when there is no consequences, and equating that to male behavior. Its like me watchimg real housewives and concluding that is all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 10:02 AM
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If you look at logical men here, we don't talk to women like that. It seems like this purge week nonsense is starting to drive is away and this is becoming an incel forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:48 AM
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Purge week is stupid. I think it can aid in radicallizing the women here against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:32 PM
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If men liked gold diggers as a quality then there would be ugly women who gold dig. I have not searched but I'm sure the percentage of successful gold diggers who are ugly is very low. That adds to my point that men don't like gold diggers, but they like hot women and will often overlook any gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 11:36 AM
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No rebuttal to what I said, I'm sure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:12 PM
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There's also a very good correlation between high n-count men and infidelity. Infidelity is linked to divorce. So I'll take a low n-count man to match my own low n-count 🤷‍♀️ The problem is that generally women like high N count men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:02 PM
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I think you should rephrase. "Men like the hottest women, and will often overlook her flaws at a notable rate compared to a less attractive woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:00 PM
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I'm not saying these two situations are exactly the same, but it is an attempt to translate male behavior to a female so at least you can begin to relate: Imagine if your boyfriend took his ex on romantic dates bought her flowers etc... then in your relationship he is like "I did that romance shit and I'm done with it". Would that not bother you in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:08 PM
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A person can love someone while simultaneously be unable or unwilling to treat them well. This has no context to what either of us said...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:48 PM
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When a woman agrees to marry you I don't think it is off base to think she loves you in some capacity. The more common story is that a man follows what society tells him and fails, then he stumbles upon red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:56 PM
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If one worried about what their friends think more than sex, why would one pay good money for sex without their friends knowing? The importance to me in that situation seems to be the sex, not impressing friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:48 AM
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The escort industry would not exist if this was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 09:16 PM
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I've seen dudes act crazy on here. IMO it is equally as crazy when people try to pretend there is no truth to Red Pill Theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 09:06 PM
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When my dad was bringing the money and my mom was bringing in big money the dynamic changed. In what way did the dynamic change/ or what negative things did you witness? Do you think it was equally both of their fault or one more than the other? I think the reason for the shortage is society. Society today is weak AF. People are so sensitive these days and young boys are being affected. Facts. I think that the blurring of gender roles also has a part to play. (Thanks dad for teaching me about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:56 PM
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but fuck after being in a relationship with a BPD and schizophrenic man I kinda want to give up. How exactly did those diseases manifest itself. Especially my dad, being in the military he was the man everyone saluted when he walked in the room. He commanded respect and was the alpha lion. What are some of the root causes that you think/observed that made their marriage unhappy? sadly those alpha lions with their shit together are off the market. Facts. Many under 30 "alpha lions" also don't pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 07:30 PM
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I appreciate their concern, but it stunt my social development. I know what you mean but now i view it as a strength. Few people have the outlook on life that I do, and it is almost amusing when you see people that can't help but pleasing others. Truth and logic don't matter they just want to be a part of the group. I see a lot of this maddness going on equally on both sides of the political debate currently. I think part of the reason why some marriages fail is because the communication failed.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:44 PM
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I was not born in this country, and was raised by conservative parents. At a young age though I moved to NYC so I did not need exposure from tv. Both my mom and dad were the shy-er one's in their family yet 90% of my other family are A+ personalities, so I was surrounded by a lot of "cool" people. I am mixed race so there were some major differences between the two sides of my family. One side was A+ let's get our education make money and be the best, the other side was A+ in gangs and stuff.(ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:10 PM
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I think the idea of monogamy was to curb the negative effects of promiscuity When people started to invent civilization. The foundation of monogamy was sex. I also think you are mistaken to think we are more sophisticated. I think the concept of us being(to use my words) "closer to vulcans than we are to monkeys" is the root of a lot of our problems. For instance, we would not trust a single baboon to make decisions for hundreds of millions of us, yet we do it all the time as a planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:29 PM
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Its interesting you used the word normie. It's a relic to show how much you have interacted in the "manosphere" If you don't mind me asking you some questions: Do you view yourself as a female normie? Are you able to articulate any words as to why or why not? Do you think you would prefer to date a normie who are oblivious to these concepts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:19 PM
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Get off this subreddit. You are engaging with men who had problems and evaluated what makes woman's wheels turn. To a man who was already attractive, he probably has never even heard about "purple pill debate". Just go be yourself and try to be a giver instead of a taker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:54 AM
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Low value men don't sleep around... They may be low value in your opinion but they are high value to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:53 AM
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As though every man was supposed to have a girlfriend and women deserve "blame" for not doing their "jobs". So the answer to my question seriously is "yes its all men's fault". The economy created the manosphere, false hope in misguided expectations is what powers it. The manosphere was created by more than the economy...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:12 PM
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My comment was geared toward your "manosphere" comment. So no female thought process and actions are to blame, only the negative male spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:24 PM
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Despite your sarcasm, explain how I was wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:12 PM
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Translation: It's men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:01 PM
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She has to be exaggerating for sake of her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:04 AM
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The hoe phase only ends with maturity/age. In my experience high n's are better at sex but it is easier for them to let go; in an obnoxious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:25 PM
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I immediately saw a gender split, I would say 60-70% of the women found the girl on the left to be more attractive What weird dudes did you poll who gave the girl on the left a 6?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:18 PM
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I mean, that’s great in theory. In actuality, I’ve been cat called while wearing snow boots and a parka. Sexually harassed by a client while wearing a turtleneck. Had some guy try to take pics down my blouse/up my skirt while I was commuting home on the subway Good points. You are probably an attractive woman, so I have no answer for you but move into a place with no men. (which is obviously satire) This is why a lot of women think that the power dynamics are a major driving force in this sort o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 01:15 AM
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Look at the pushback from really nice, respectful guys over the whole MeToo movement - the whole idea that sexual harassment was just a part of life for a lot of women was seriously alarming to nice guys who would never dream of treating a woman that way This is a deep topic. I am a "nice guy" and I fully acknowledge how sexual harassment is in most women's lives. My problem with it was the hypocrisy. Women did want the male attention but from only select males. I understand people want to be at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 01:01 AM
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Just because I was talking about men in this one case doesn’t mean I think that trait is exclusive to guys. It’s universal I understand now, you were talking about people not telling other people the worst things they do. I thought you thought there was a conspiracy where men are looking at breastfeeding women and are too ashamed to talk about it. I can assure you, If I saw a hot woman breastfeeding and it made me feel something, I wouldn't leer at her I'd get my basic look in and then I would c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:45 AM
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On anther note if you'd like, I'm very curious to hear about these behaviors that men don't see in other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:40 AM
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I'm 31, all my friends are currently popping out babies. I know how unthoughtful and obscene the bad side of the male spectrum can be. So I know it happens, but cancel your rhetoric about "That leads me to believe it’s taboo for men to talk about, and that behavior is one of the behaviors that men just don’t see in other men. Because it’s hidden from them on purpose" because that is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:39 AM
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I’m not saying you’ve heard that. I’m saying that despite you never having heard it, it happens often enough for me to have multiple real world examples My sister breastfed two kids and I've never heard this from her. Of course one will get looks but I think you are exaggerating about frequency and intensity. That leads me to believe it’s taboo for men to talk about, and that behavior is one of the behaviors that men just don’t see in other men. Because it’s hidden from them on purpose Nah, this…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:22 AM
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I think men are aware that saying that to other men - who have had breastfeeding wives - is an invitation to an ass kicking. Well tough girl, your friends husband punked out......I've grown up around men my whole life.....Literally I've never heard anyone sexualize a breastfeeding woman even in school......Not the lockeroom, nothing. 16, 17 year old boys can be intimidating and scary. And they can certainly cause a lot of damage - in this case, she was right to be frightened Fair enough, but 16 …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 11:44 PM
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> Tell that to my friends (multiple) who’ve ended up sobbing in cars/bathrooms/other private places bc creepy ass guys took them feeding their baby as an invitation to leer/take photos/make comments ​ That's messed up, but I still have never heard anyone say it's an open invitaion. But I think I understand... > a group of teen boys pressed up against the car windows, A group of teen boys.....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 11:21 PM
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And no, men, I wouldn’t appreciate The Hottest Man In The World making advances on me while I was breastfeeding because he thought it was an open invitation. It has nothing to do with attraction. Now dating does but I’m sure you understand that as it goes both ways. This is dishonest....I have never seen anyone ever say breastfeeding was an open invitation. It makes me think you wearing skimpy clothes is an open invitation to the hottest man in the world since you went to that extreme.....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 10:27 PM
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No...I told you I was emotional, so i'm not saying men require zero emotional attention. My argument has been that women require more. Go back and read your original post and see how snarky that was...and identify what exactly was snarky in my last post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:31 AM
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But is that too much to ask for men to make the women they’re in relationships with feel loved and treasured? Not at all, I love women. The point is that you never hear a man say "is it too much to treasure me". That is a deeply emotional thing that is generally unique to women in relationships. Ok. So this is maybe an evolutionary relic? Sure, but still evidence to my point. Yeah you got me there. But just like men want to hear their women say they are amazing in the sack, women to hear our men…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:19 AM
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Women want to feel loved and treasured. It makes sense because naturally mothers and fathers adore their daughters in a princess kind of way. So they are used to it generally. Safety. Women are far more likely to leave a man than vice versa if she feels no protection from her mate. Do I look pretty/fat today? The trick questions that we all know exist. On top of these 3 random things, which I'm sure if we took a poll the community can offer more; women don't like overly emotiomal men...I'm not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:54 AM
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In what way do women require more emotionally? We can make a list but this may be easier. Who have you heard this from more: "I left/cheated because they were not there for me emotionally" Men or women? Btw we’re 50 years into the sexual revolution. Catch up. You may not be involved in the new age of dating. Those in your pool may also already be parents/more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:35 AM
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Best way I can explain it: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/c7622t/discussion_are_men_emotional_gold_diggers/ This sounds like more dealing with asshole men to me. No girl I've dated would have put up with that. These are bad choices. I think if we took a poll most people would agree that women require more emotionally. I'm going a little deeper here. And I'm talking about men in relationships. I'm talking about the root of the problem. Relationships in the west in 2020 are som…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:00 AM
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For thousands of years this is why our species thrived. The love of a mother would allow her to kill a wolf, but generally she was gentle and patient enough to raise an infant. She also had the help of the other women around her. The men got to express their agression always by consistently doing the "wolf killing", and neither role was viewed as a weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:59 PM
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While we have to generalize a bit when having these discussions, these are mostly gross generalizations. men like egalitarian society as long they get to pick and chose I was an introvert growing up. Most people in general had more value than me, male and female. I don't think anyone prefers an egalitarian society more than men and women who grew up the way I did. men prefer to be the pursuer and are turned off by women who pursue Only if the pursuing woman is too unattractive to have an erectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:55 PM
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You are smart. Narcissists can be very charming, women fall for the charm and get burnt by the negative qualities. RP men just sat back, observed, and wrote down/kept in mind our observations. When reddit was invented and I fell upon that sub, many of the things in the sidebar was already observed by my own eyes thus gained more traction as truth to me. No narcissism involved on my behalf down that path. I acknowledge I'm not the most attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:58 PM
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I get it now. You're the Narcissist and you are trying to project it unto all of us... If you aren't lying and you attracted women by being an asshole, then most of us observed you doing that, and why that happens was chronicled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:38 PM
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I've been with one man since we were both 19. Now this makes sense. You had a boyfriend so you stopped giving everyone a chance. Not that a Chad broke your heart so you were done with chads....In college......If that happens to a woman it usually happens later in life, and if their new man is not entertaining enough, they still may seek chad on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:24 PM
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I'm 0% mad. People be on here lying. There are exceptions, but the data predicts she likely was still chasing Chads, and being cold to the regular dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 11:51 PM
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Bullshit that many men want to use women and expect sex as soon as she smiles to him? Oh please. No BS that you gave up on "lovely boys". I did. But had to stop being a people pleaser. Right... You likely took it out on the uglier guys and didn't even notice you were the same person with the hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 08:54 PM
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I think it's because the potential mate pool greatly increases, and they are likely fawning over the Chads, who are now more abundant compared to HS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:00 PM
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I call bs. You simply didn't have an opportunity with anyone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:59 PM
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Female rapists are not as common as manospherians would have us believe. Almost all "sources" they use to promote this are heavily flawed. I never said it was common, even though more common, male rapists are still the minority of men. Or, alternatively, many female rapists have mental health issues going on. It's not an excuse, but it's an explanation as to why they do something inherently un-feminine. Male rapistw likely have mental issues as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:38 PM
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TRP did not come looking for us. We observed life then found a community of people who had the same observations. The emotion the younger posters sometimes post with does not negate the foundational premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:56 PM
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This is a sexist claim. Male rapists are born out of misogny all males harbor. Female rapists are not born out of misandry....what is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:50 PM
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I believe in equality but this guy has a point, women love to look up to their man. I was on a PBS shoot once and the director was an A personality. He was in command of everyone, very outgoing and powerful voice. His wife was on the other side of the spectrum and almost seemed shy. He was sort of a nerdy guy so I don't think he was abusive at all to her yet you could easily tell "who wore the pants". Long story short they were both in their 50's and married a while and TBH i've never seen a hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:46 PM
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Most men I know don't hate women. We are in a new social era and how we meet people, and our access to relationships have changed drastically. On here you meet a lot of the outliers who are affected the most by the change because of a lack of attractiveness in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:39 PM
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Bc rapists are born from the exact same misogyny that all men have. It's just a matter of it mutating or festering. That's all it takes. So female rapists are born out of misandry that all women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:32 PM
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Dating advice should come from average looking people who have great success on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:26 PM
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It took me a few days to respond, but very well said. I think logic will always prevail, and in time we will figure out how to make social dynamics work for us as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:52 PM
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failed attempt to be funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:39 PM
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Not only was this a failed attempt, the timing of it is questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:23 AM
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What a Reddit tier response What a Reddit tier response......
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:09 PM
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I think there are actually involuntarily celibate regular dudes out there, who are simply a bi-product of this new digital era.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:46 PM
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Why do you think sometimes men purchase the same prostitute over and over? Because the girl was good?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:39 PM
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Thats true, keep in mind you are focused on the vocal minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:37 PM
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There is stigma on sex work because it is gross. This is an opinion. Selling your body to the highest bidder is gross. The girl sets her own price for her time and the people who can afford it contacts her. The human body is meant for something more meaningful than that This is another opinion, but what is so much more meaningful for the human body? sex workers will be unfit for most high quality relationships after the sex work Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:36 PM
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I have seen that from some of them, but those posters barely sound logical. I'm more talking about the people suffering quietly. Also by de-stigmatizing I hypothesize a chunk of those voices saying "not good enough" would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:23 PM
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but I don’t see any reason to destigmatize Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:18 PM
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It may help some of the animosity we see online many of those lonely men/incels seem to harbor. Maybe they would be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:57 PM
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> Ok but then don't pretend you are progressive if you are recommending that love should be for sale. This is capitalist dream. Escorts don't sell love they sell sex. I'm not sure how supporting legalization is not progressive. I'd like to hear that one explained. ​ > And also, ugly girls should be paying for sex too then. Maybe some do, but the demand for unattractive girls is much higher than the demand for unattractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:52 PM
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How does this not support Incel/Blackpill Ideas? Reading this, I see why most of them are probably so crazy; coming across people like you: " The reason you weren't/aren't a player is because you're a low SOI, neurotic nebbish dweeb "
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:38 PM
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DE-stigmatize and decriminalize/legalize sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:32 PM
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IMO this is a deflection of the main point. Qualities like Charisma, Confidence and charm are what attract women. Those qualities often attract women in lieu of "nice" qualities; so I think we all need to be honest with each other if we are to move on past this stage we are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:27 AM
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I'm sorry if what I said was hurtful to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:54 AM
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I'm sorry. That may have not been the best way to phrase that looking back at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:52 AM
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If you can't get a man then you are ugly. And then ask people you know and respect where you can go to meet such women. So when you reach the place where you meet such women, what is the next step? Especially if you are an ugly man???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:43 PM
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because no one cares about you and when you ask for advice people just mouth thoughtless platitudes in an attempt to put you out like a fire This is not true IMO. They don't say it because they dont know how to articulate the words or are ashamed to. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:40 PM
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RP does not say only 10/10 get relationships. Where RP comes in for you is if she cheats on you it will help you understand what you did wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:25 AM
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Simply because a girl is young does not mean she has high SMV. I'm sure those girls dating those average guys are average themselves, and would leave him if she had a chance with Chad. Highschool also presents slightly different dynamics than adulthood, everyone wants to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:39 PM
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Fair enough. Or maybe you still live in a blue pill world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:44 PM
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Maybe the kid whose pickuplines never land. Who women have been verbally abusive to him because of her disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:08 PM
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Even back then women highly favored HVM, maybe even more so than now. They wanted successful, rich, handsome husbands to reproduce with. In fact traditional women would be less likely to give them a chance. What evidence do you have to show that women in the past favored HVM more than now? I would argue since women don't need men for basic survival anymore thay today's women only want/need HVM to provide them tingles. What do these TRP men want? Traditional chaste virgins who are simultaneously …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:01 PM
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If you had basic fighting skills, there is no way rhonda rousey would beat you. All you had to do was sit on her abdomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:05 AM
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Cop out like usual......
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 10:04 PM
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Most guys don't surround themselves with insta-thots, so clearly men in this sub are doing something wrong. Most guys should surround themselvs with instathots?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:17 PM
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I think being with someone with a high N count can be annoying for both males and females. Lets say you were dating someone you loved. How annoying and hurtful would it be if you guys had a relationship issue and he puts no effort into it and just bounces to a next person. In my experience high n's are more impatient. They also keep connections with many of those people they had sex with and have multiple possible sex partners a phone call away. This makes them act differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:49 PM
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Social media and online dating is the main issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:35 PM
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Most guys don't surround themselves with insta-thots, so clearly men in this sub are doing something wrong. I'm not sure what this means. You did not adress the most important comment. I wonder what mental gymnastics a guy has to go through to attract you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:34 PM
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Because they want to fuck those girls on instagram. Hence, that’s all they pursue and prioritize. If given the opportunity most guys would fuck most women, not vice-versa. You're probably average to above average and I can't imagine what gymnastics it would take to attract you.....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:25 PM
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Wrong stance, you cant ever be 100% right when talking about a diverse group of people. Imagine if we were talking about male attraction instead of female. It would be deceitful for my argument to be "Men aren't attracted to face, boobs and ass because asexual men exist" This is another variation on the argument "women make poor choices therefore we should remove their right to choose". 100% false. This is a; "for us to move on as a species in this new age when it relates to the new rules of dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:16 AM
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Why cant we want both? Most women want both. The key point is that both is rare. When given the option a large % of women would pick the fun traits over the nice ones. What's wrong with the fact you've gotten "female nature" wrong? I did not get female nature wrong. I'm so confident that I'm right, if you explain to me excatly how I got it wrong and it makes sense I'll cash app you $1000...No bs I promise. If you acted a certain way pretending to be something your not your have to drop the act a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:43 AM
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You used the term betabux, it is derogatory by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:51 AM
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"Simping is King Shit"...........
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:50 AM
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Other traits are negotiable, but then again a shy woman might prefer a shy introverted guy. In my experience shy women may not know how to get an extrovert past makeup. But they want confident charismatic guys 100% equally. Everyone wants the best possible partner they can get, not just women. I know this. The difference is that the female narrative is that they want responsible, kind, empathetic men. The narrative needs to be, you want charismatic fun men. I'm 32 in a few months
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:17 PM
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How did I ignore that? I agree with it. I don't blame women because my own attraction is flawed. For instance breasts may make me choose one over another. The point is that men admit that freely. What we are taught is that being nice, listening, being responsible etc. Is what women want. Yet women choose will choose charisma without those 3 qualities, because that is what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:05 PM
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Looks are part of the equation sure,what I listed would be an "alpha" in looks, difference between men & wome Is I'd be quite honestly intimidated by a 10, men on the other hand would believe they have a shot with her. Then get butt hurt when she inevitably friend zones you & blame the rest of us. Thats false. Girls who are 10 get approached less than girls who are 7 or 8. 10's don't put you in the friend zone, they ignore your approach....Straight up ignore. The friend zone is usually from a gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:52 PM
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Erm, wow, that would be tough. I'm not sure I even liked 40 men in my entire life. Fair point. Guess it's better to be smarter about it before it gets to that point. I guess I'm thinking more about the girl smiling at you across the room from a party rather than a random woman on the train. Women don't smile at the guy who is average/below average unless you're the center of attention due to charisma. For the quiet average guys, they never get smiles to work with. Quiet average girls still get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:39 PM
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I never said anything about strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:35 PM
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What if the person was ugly yet their profile was the best you've seen?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:34 PM
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The disconnect is that women are not as honest as you are, or they don't know how to articulate that. For instance if I ask my mom how can I attract more women she would give me abstract ideas. She would not say, get your six pack up, learn jokes because "girls just wanna have fun".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:33 PM
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What's so hard about approaching a woman if you are attracted anyway? If you're in public, I feel like the worst you can get is a no. I digress, though, haha How many men have you approached that are not attracted to you? Could you handle getting rejected 40 times in a row?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:33 PM
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I think this whole sub exists because no one openly says what you just did. They tell us all these abstract things like "listen to her" but it's essentialy if you're not hot you need to be charismatic and funny to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:30 PM
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Where have you been looking for men? This sounds like online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:24 PM
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I see from the workers angle Decriminalization is more beneficial. I was looking at it from my angle only wanting it more easily accessible and less taboo. But I want what's best for you guys so I'm a decriminalization guy now...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:23 AM
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I didn't think about that angle. I like legalization because the girls could be protected and more resources could go to catching the smugglers and pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:13 AM
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I'm for legalizing. What benefits do you see from decriminalization vs legalization?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:08 AM
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The Law is going about it the wrong way IMO. I understand why they took the websites down with the underage thing but they don't understand that because it's illegal, the people who do that get to hide in the masses. If it were legal, those people could no longer hide in plain sight because they would be the only one's doing it in a shady way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:58 AM
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Backpage was the shiz. CityX was 60% backpage but that is gone too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:33 AM
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On Eros it's easy to find a girl for $1000 out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:26 AM
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I'm in NYC. In that price range even in the south I've encountered a lot of craziness. I've ran the gauntlet, but because escorts exist does not make sex more available to men than it is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:17 AM
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What is the frequency of their visits once or twice a month? Most men want sex at least 3x a week. Also she is only exposed to the % of men who can afford it. She never meets the majority of men who cannot afford her 3x a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:39 PM
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The resourses you mentioned I find girls $500hr average. I support sex workers and have multiple contacts that I've vetted. But that took time, effort and many interesting experiences along the way. So in the context of the OP, he is wrong. Sex is not more available to men. All a girl has to do is say to 10 men "hey....My bf just left me for another girl and I need to unwind. Let's have sex to say fuck him and i'll never contact you again......Viola! Edit:comma
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:37 PM
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You think tribalism means slavery because you are classist Judgments and there have been insults when I've only been respectful and nice to you... Thank you for the conversation, it was interesting. I'm going to bed now have a great night.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:35 AM
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What do you mean by Riot? Burning structures and that sort of thing? So yes. Breakdown civilization first, which is already happening, then breakdown civilization more by giving rioters psychedelics. Civilization is not breaking down....People are fighting for equality and safety in a country where they are minorities while being part of a species with deep tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:32 AM
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So break down civilization first then popularize DMT or popularize DMT then breakdown civilization?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:24 AM
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How will we convince religious people to try DMT, and what will we do in the meanwhile? Leave civilization running until everyone gets DMT or will will we break down civilization and then try to set up the right of passage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:21 AM
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Dude most people do not want to kill when they get stoned. They wanna fuck. It's kind of the total opposite. We don't need shit security, coward. Usually when people start insulting it's when they're at the end of their logic. So you admit it would correct them? No, I'm not sure what % of people would be corrected. So how would that work in implementation? Would we force everyone to use DMT?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:16 AM
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but reason & logic about psychology kind of dictates that most of how people think is selfish & narcissist, so someone is less likely to attack someone else if they don't identify them as an outsider. Empathogens increase empathy. Right, but still you're basing a new way of living for the planet on a hypothesis. Because like you said, we have no proof increased empathy would stop people from killing/raping each other. Therefore the need for at least some sort of agreed upon security plan. It's i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:11 AM
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I mean sort of yes. That is not a definitive yes. That is a lot you have riding on a hypothesis. Someone's need to hurt others goes way way down if they believe others are no longer a threat because they don't even see others as outsiders any longer. I understand, and I think most people would have that experience. But we know psychedelic drugs affect people in different ways. What if someone goes to that place and feels like they are not part of the collective and gets even more resentful? Sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:56 AM
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a lot of things people do is unimportant and not needed. Agreed Psychedelic drugs would make people see that. Many people have those experiences. But are you willing to bank that psychedelic drugs will abolish all rape and murder? That's what I mean about priorities. I can't even have a conversation about how the world should work of we don't agree about what's important. To be honest I think we agree on the proprieties. You used one word which was empathy, and I think that is the best word to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:42 AM
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See you haven't thought about all of that. Those are real issues and part of the reason we created societies in the first place. We can't just jump into something like that. We're going to end up like one of those empires that disappeared off of the face of the earth. I've never done DMT, but I hear it is an amazing experience. Did you have a deep self realization moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:29 AM
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I think anarchy can work on a tribal level. I've never had an in depth discussion on how it would work. How do you see things happening on a global level? What forms of structure are there for things like trade, security force 100% voluntary? What do we do about the people who abuse others, who is responsible for dealing with that and what if there is a disagreement in the community as to the severity of that person's punishment? The virus is happening because humans don't respect the earth. Mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:23 AM
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had abuse growing up so I'm not sure if I will ever know if I'm naturally introverted or extroverted I had a similar experience. I've never heard it described that way before and I'm definitely going to use that line. Because I may have been extroverted if I was able to flourish like a normal kid. I agree that a lot of the systems need to change. I think people are put in positions that have too much power and too much trust is placed into individuals. I think we need a system with more checks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:10 AM
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How exactly do you see the world? Were you an introvert growing up or extro?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:56 AM
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Then why are you having sex with 18 year old Chads if that's not what you want? Is someone who sees what you see in the world that rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:52 AM
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I'd be open to cam with you at your rate for the fun of it, but I won't buy you anything. So don't worry about that. It's ok if you don't want to say but I am genuinely curious because I have 0% inkling. 50k, 100k, 250k??? I have no clue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:50 AM
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What do you like if you had to describe your perfect man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:46 AM
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Also what is a average weeks earnings compared to a great weeks earnings while being a camwhore?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:45 AM
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I browse r/sexworkers and they are very big on etiquette. I guess I have become oversensitive. So were you making all that up or do you actually browse tinder for 18 year old boys? I'm fascinated by people and love to learn about unique people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:43 AM
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I mean the way you said that "Online Cam Whore" Also the way you talk about your sexuality is almost like you're talking about a fictional character. Edit: Correction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:39 AM
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Why do you talk about yourself with such disrespect? Are you making all this up or are you a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:26 AM
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How much do you charge for an hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:21 AM
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Right but I know you're smart enough to get the analogy.. Anyway's I'm just sitting here bored with a youtube tab in the background. I'm enjoying this as it's very entertaining. I hope you stay here for a while and have this conversation with me. If your goal was to annoy or bother me it would be more effective to just end the conversation now and never contact me again. Edit: correction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:17 AM
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Person A has a bag of Lemons. Person B has nothing. Winter is coming and both need Vitamin C. Person A hates lemons and wants oranges. Because Person A hates lemons, does not change the fact that they have access to vitamin C while person B doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:06 AM
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Being a troll while on a day old account...#Original. Anyway you keep saying the same thing and will get the same answer. What women want does not have anything to do with what is available to them. So therefore still: "Sex is more available to women than it is to men".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:53 AM
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You're smart then. Still my point stands true. "Sex is more available to women than it is to men". Help us spread red pill logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:43 AM
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What women fight for has nothing to do with what is available to them. So my point is right. Thanks for also agreeing with a very red pill viewpoint that: "Most women fight for the rare Chads." You should help us convince more women of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:40 AM
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My point is that sex is more available to women than it is for men. Which is what the post is about... What is your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:35 AM
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It's my problem? Let's say it was. How does that have anything to do with sex being more available to women than it is to men? If anything you are proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:32 AM
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Whose problem it is isn't in the context of OP's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:14 AM
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I'm not complaining. I'm simply illustrating that just because escorts exist don't mean they are accessible to most people frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 11:56 PM
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Fair enough. Yet the topic of this post was the access to sex is the same. All I've said is that it's not. Whether you like the options available to you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 11:44 PM
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What is the resource where you can find reputable women for $200? It takes research to come across the person and then time to dive into their online presences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 11:15 PM
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You could also compare it to dating, say going on some dates a handful a times a month could cost $200+. Just go see the escort for the same money and get the sex you want. ​ I personally employ this method but most men do not. Putting all of this back into context of the OP; because I can pay $200 to see a girl for one hour, does not put me in the same category of sexual opportunities as the average woman. Not even close...... ​ If you wanted, you likely can have sex with a new man every day. ​…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 11:12 PM
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Right, which adds up. Plus that is average on the cheaper end. Plus throw in the potenital for addicts, catfish and scamming especially at that price range.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:15 PM
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They represent a very small portion of society. So they cannot be used to prove Op's point. Even if you made 100k, that would be 1/5 of your salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:48 PM
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So then if you know, to what small % of America are those prices affordable? How can you say that is comparable to an average girls ability to get sex almost on demand from someone? At almost any frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 08:38 PM
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2k a month for a slim girl twice a week sounds affordable to the average American to you? Edit: correction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 08:34 PM
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Have you ever asked any how much they charge per hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:29 PM
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It is not affordable. You're hypothetically speaking about all of this and don't have much experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 05:51 PM
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Hey, I hope you had a good fourth. I have like a 30% hangover. I'm glad now you are in a stable relationship and worked through your trauma. Would you say your college was in a conservative area?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:11 PM
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I drank because I craved being seen as cool and being socially accepted and part of the in group..the regret was only me being not aware of the consequences of drinking beyond my limit and repeating the same mistake a few times. I can relate to this 100% No one tells me the judgement of a 17 year old is actually much worse compared to them at 24-25 when more developed. Looking back, a lot of stuff we are exposed to can be classified as "predatory behavior". I don't think people go into it most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:23 PM
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That is crazy, TBH all of my few random hookups have involved alcohol. There are so many variables that I can't say whether it is good or not, not just for me but society as well. Do you have regrets about that? Many women have similar stories but feel horror when they "un-blackout". Do you think a good amount of women drink to lower their inhibitions to improve their chances of having sex like men do? thinking I was an ugly ho or something lol. Did you feel that way about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:00 PM
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Despite all those differences and negative LTR views you had of your FWB, how/why did you guys get into an FWB relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:47 PM
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So you think the reason the FWB didn't pan out was because they were not interested in LTRing you? Were you interested in LTRing them at all at the time, or were you equally in the relationship purely to be FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:40 PM
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I'm sorry if it feels like I'm grilling you with questions, I'm just fascinated by human relationships and love learning new information.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:38 PM
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Were the FWB relationships a sort of rebound situation? Would you say there was a reason they stayed as FWB and never anything more?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:29 PM
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What was the average time a LTR lasted vs the average time a FWB relationship lasted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:25 PM
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How many FWB have you had compared to LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:03 PM
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The 80/20 rule is true. I get looks all day, I've been short term pursued often but have been too naive to pick up signals in the past as they can be subtle, which then becomes a turnoff after some time. I am being long term pursued by a friend but I can't be with her for multiple reasons and she has done me wrong in the past. Only very verbose women or addict type women "approach" me on a regular day, but when in vacation settings I get approached by attractive women as well. Despite all of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 12:19 PM
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You sound like you understand the struggle of a man in the realm of attraction and dating. Most of us deal with what you deal with and I think because of that, the introvert is an option romantically for you like it is for many of us. I don't think the introvert is high on many women's attraction scale, and I hypothesize if a higher ranking male truly loved you, you'd forget about said introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 08:38 PM
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Just like I said............
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 05:23 AM
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I bet you can't expand on that, because you'd be trying to disprove the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 01:51 AM
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I've read pretty much everything there is to read about the subject. I've done it for years. And before TRP, i also read about the traditional PUA. The general public has not done the apparent extensive research you have on the topic in multiple places and times. TRP introduction on the sidebar is an easy to understand condensed version of female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:03 PM
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I figured out eventually that it wasn't something that would contribute to my personal happiness nor life goals. How long did it take you to figure this out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 08:27 PM
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Most guys want sex early, many guys don't mind waiting. The only way you can know for sure if he likes you is to vet him over time, and you have to be willing to take some losses with that method. Observe his actions over time and not his words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 08:25 PM
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This is not a fair assessment of what TRP says about female attraction. We are mostly alike, but there is enough difference in our attraction that it warrants the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:33 PM
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The taller the men on average in a given area, it's likely nature selected for it. So yes, in my experience area's where the average height is 6'0, the women are more concerned about height. Places where the average is 5'8, the women are less concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:03 PM
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We are not talking about her. We are talking about what the man experiences. Maybe there is something for you to learn in all of this. Why would an emotionally unhealthy woman choose a drug dealer over a shy less charasmatic guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:47 AM
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You're pulling hairs to avoid the overall truth. Although sex is not intimacy, in my experience a girl who is dating a drug dealer is usually head over heels for him and would sacrifice anything. So not only does he have access to the sex, he makes women act that way towards him....Use whatever word you'd like to describe that phenomenon if you're reluctant to say intimacy.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 03:48 AM
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That's a logical stance to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:28 AM
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I don’t think sex and gender role are tied together bc there obviously have always been outliers but I think the two gendered personality types should both be celebrated. I think for much of human history monogamy was more of a transaction where the men could provide resources and protection, and women could tend the camp and the exhausting task of tending children before modern medicine. I get it, I see how people say that w fds too. I think lookism is a huge problem for everyone too, I stopped…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:53 AM
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They were rude to me and demeaning which I didn’t often experience in my role so it stuck out. I think the philosophy is too harsh and not loving towards people on a basic level. Being rude and demeaning is not TRP. A lot of guys seem to go through an anger and venting phase, but TRP is about what kind of guys that girls like to be around. Some younger guys don't understand that because a highly charismatic, tall, handsome guy can ignore a girl and still get her; does not necessarily mean the gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:24 AM
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I was thinking about this on my drive back from swimming. I feel I have had to put so much energy into playing whack a mole for decades w keeping bad men away from me it’s very hard to switch gears and welcome a man into my life. There are just so, so many with bad intentions. I understand why women are difficult to please and why men are frustrated. The bar is so high bc otherwise you just seem like another mole you gotta get rid of. I understand. I actually believe that there are good men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:05 AM
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I’ve built like 4-6 men in my dating career and not one has cared enough about me to check in on me during a global pandemic. It’s really insane to me but I don’t want to be bitter I want to just accept who I am and the nature of the world around me and move on. Girls really are in a tough position these days. I can see that it may be tough to find someone that is genuine. I believe men and women once needed each other to thrive. The roles each gender played in survival was easily defined in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:59 AM
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I love kids. It’s just a lot to be a mom, that’s like every waking moment of your whole life that someone else is more important than you in your own life. I can relate to this. I want kids, but I want at least a few more years of freedom. The way we love our dogs so much that the responsibility they require is trivial, those around me with kids say it's the same way. Yet I still believe it's possible there is at least 1% denial there....lol Did a lot of work on my self-esteem and eating disorde…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:08 AM
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I'm glad to hear that. You seem like you have a wealth of life experience so I'd like to keep this conversation going if you don't mind. Have you completely written off the idea of a kid, and do you ever want a partner in general in the future? What things are you working on while focusing on yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:38 AM
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Do you regret not focusing on yourself at a younger age?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:23 AM
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My experience of pursuing men is that it just turns into an unpaid internship of them having lukewarm feelings for me but allowing me to fuck them and do shit for them. It's gross. I'm sorry that happened to you, It seems online dating and social media is creating a whole new slew of problems especially with people under 25. Men pursue what they want in life and if it's not me, that's fine but me having some sort of sham relationship with someone who doesn't like me that much isn't a real soluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:24 PM
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OK but i'm not going to approach men just bc I don't believe in gender roles? Like just to prove a point or be progressive so that other people can be helped. No, You'd approach men if the one's you wanted were not approaching you. If you weren't having success then you'd evaluate if maybe you're doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:19 PM
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Ok? And then what? They’re going to be an engaged partner and want to be my bf? Doubt it. No. When you're trying to build a relationship you have to take time to get to know the person, and give them reasons to like you and want to be around you. If that sounds too hard for you to do, then you are strengthening the idea of a gender role in dating "men are the approaches".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:57 PM
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If men followed your logic, 90% of men would not approach women. In big cities a simple "Hey good afternoon" will get you ignored. I would argue that women don't like to approach men in general, they put the responsibility on us. If you politely said hello to a guy most would respond unless you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 05:32 PM
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Why would approaching men you like not be worthwhile?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:53 AM
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I am even open to date someone 35+, but I get the feeling alot of them have „baggage“ including an Ex-Gf they still long for, children, or they turned cynical and AGAIN use me for a hookup- experience. I guess I will die an asexual spinster, lmao! You're right there is a higher risk of that person having baggage like kids or an ex-wife. But you'd be surprised that there are men without those things. Part of the reason you may be having trouble finding someone is because you say things like "I gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:55 PM
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Are you in your low 20's? Maybe it is changing with the new generation. Are you open to dating someone 28-32?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:13 AM
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I think you may be looking in the wrong places. Maybe online dating, parties and bars? Find a niche hobby you enjoy and place yourself around people with like minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:31 PM
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This should show you that your premise is false... You say it's just as easy yet are talking about calling representatives to achieve it...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:59 PM
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In simplest terms; The revelation is that I'm not Chad. I wasn't attracting women like the others around me. There were guys on a Chad Tier, then guys on the average tier getting girlfriends, then my tier. Because of this I went seeking advice. The advice said to "be sensitive", "Listen to women" etc. After years of that to no avail and then stumbling on the logical side of what TRP says attracts women, it all makes sense. It gets you to focus on deeper issues within yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:53 AM
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I think going on the TRP subrettit and ranting, and/or bragging about(or making up)stories is the cope. I honestly believe much of the concepts that deal with what attracts females are dead on. The right thing to do is start the self betterment once you have the revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:38 AM
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Most people do seem to use the term that way. The sidebar is far more logical than the posts. Are you in the camp that believes RP is all bs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:33 AM
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I think the possibility of child partially causes that. I was talking with OP and she showed that the original RP meaning of spinning plates means having multiple prospects while you are single. I agree with that, what I was arguing was that most people don't have sex with multiple people at the same time, not necessarily prospecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:42 PM
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You're right on that. If you'd allow me I'll redact everything I said and change my argument to this: Women spin a lot more plates than men do. So much so that I don't think it is fair to compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:08 PM
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I've known a couple women with 30+n, most are not that high. You're a pimp. I think it still stands that most people are not living a plate spinning type of lifestyle. Most people live the have sex once and settle down with that person lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:05 PM
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To that I would say your life more resembles the girls I know, more so than the men I know. Few men I know are sporting a 33.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:47 PM
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I think we have a definition issue. Spinning plates for a guy isn't trying to get numbers or dates. Spinning plates is having the women already and balancing them at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:46 PM
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But that wouldn't be spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:42 PM
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Who stops after getting one date? Numbers don't even matter girls give them out easily then just never respond. They don't stop, that is when the courtship begins. But recently it seems that courtship lasts a month max. Usually it's a couple of weeks. And how long do you think this takes? About a month, give or take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:40 PM
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hahaha that's a good one. "He is not reliable if he can't dominate me more that once". Most of us don't have a 33 count. I presume we might if we were continuously "spinning plates" The fact that most of us don't have a 33 count is evidence I think that most of us do not spin plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:36 PM
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I'm not in the bible belt, but in my experience it goes like this: Man is trying to attract every woman he likes Man succeeds in getting a date or a number They have sex Girl and guy both push for a relationship. It is far more rare in my experience, that guys and girls are just having sex with multiple people then simply slow down when they like someone. That sounds like a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:30 PM
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Do traits like kindness, reliability, honesty attract you to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:28 PM
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I have gay friends and it is a different dynamic, we cannot compare. In my experience, gay men are actually attracted to the traits that society things women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:26 PM
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So the reason me and my friends are not able to "spin plates" is because we are shooting too high? Do you know if the women know that your friend is also having sex with other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:21 PM
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Cis men have to demonstrate sufficient value to their mates typically before they will have sex. That demonstration process can be lengthy and/or difficult. In my experience most men lock down when they have sex with a girl. They may both be flirting behind each others back, but in my experience men and women covet when they have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:19 PM
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Most of your friends are having sex with multiple women at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:16 PM
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Your male friends have sex with more than one woman in the same time frame? You're friends are legit and attractive in multiple ways then. Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:14 PM
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Most people I know end up in relationships after sex#1, or have sex#1 post relationship. I don't know many men having sex with multiple women at once. When they pull that off they get props for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:12 PM
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They aren't. Most men you know are having sex with multitudes of women in the same time period? Or are they either single or monogamous.........??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:09 PM
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When you say "Date", you mean romantically talk with or have sex with in the same time period?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:08 PM
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Most men I know, lockdown one woman when they are able to attract them. Because it is not easy to do. A small percentage of men have the skills and personality to "spin plates"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:03 PM
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It's not regular dating because most men do not spin plates. I think the passion about spinning plates comes from the fact that women spin plates. Therefore do not give your entire heart to one, and try to beat them at their own game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 07:57 PM
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I never once claimed you're triggered. You said half the things are bs and exaggerated. I pointed out you're looking at individual posters and not the actual theory. I challenge you to disprove 50% of what is in the RP sidebar introduction. You cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 07:50 PM
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You said you didn't read the sidebar and that's your issue. It's like me reading a radfem blog and think that represents what feminism is. TRP is about understanding why you don't attract women, and learning what does.....That is it. Most posters are emotional or Trolls. Yet the Data about what is attractive to women is mostly true. Whether you like the implementation by some or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:35 PM
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It seems like it is an invite sub now, so I cannot go back to the literature and defend it. I would bet your synopsis of those points are not 100% accurate. As far as the white supremacy, I've never looked into it but all I can tell you is that much of the data, at least in the introduction is accurate. Because someone is racist does not necessarily mean everything they say about any topic is false. Still I argue, you are in denial if you think none of it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:31 PM
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Teaching men to respectfully live with women will not help them attract women. I would argue most men already know how, but you are making that judgement based on the minority you see on this type of forum. ​ I have two questions if I may: ​ Do you think 100% of RP concepts are false? Do you think knowing how to live respectfully with a woman is a high priority for a lot of women when in the attraction phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:03 AM
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Modernity is playing a large role in changing social dynamics. Dating included. I would argue the things that TRP points out has been relevant for thousands of years. For instance, in a tribe thousands of years ago when wild animals were a daily threat, most women probably gravitated toward the men with strong builds and the courage/aggression to be able to kill one of those animals. People with a high degree of self confidence and social skills attract people(Chad). My brother for instance alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:54 AM
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Reading some of the posts can be appalling. You are right to say there is a lot of pent up anger. Yet I implore you to read the sidebar of the RP subreddit. At least the introduction. It is logically written and resonates with many of us based on our life experiences. I don't hate women at all, I love them. But I would argue you are in denial if you think nothing that the TRP introduction says is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:40 AM
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Acceptability was not my argument. My argument is that women treat us as objects in general equally as we do it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:01 PM
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Sex object isn't the only type of object. Most of us are treated like labor objects, defense objects, height objects, objects to be shown off etc. Because I'm not charismatic, no woman except in family has ever cared about my emotions. So I've just been used as an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:32 AM
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I mean would a man want a woman he finds unattractive staring at him, groping or ogling him? No, but as men we vocalize that honestly. The male gaze narrative makes it seem like all women want all men to stop looking at them... Which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:05 AM
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The only reason trafficking exists is because it is illegal in certain countries still. If it was legal everywhere and employers did things like check resume's trafficking would not exist. I'm not sure what you mean by harsh regulations, but I think a regular professional type facility with checkin security and a safe space would suffice. You can also have a vetting process like many girls already have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:01 AM
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Sometimes women think their attraction is morally superior. Women objectify men 100% equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:43 PM
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Sorry to jump in mid-conversation. I think sex work is a great thing. You may have a foreseeable path to $200 an hour but many women don't. Many of them are in a place in life where they don't have many skills and don't have the resources or know how to acquire them. I would argue the roots of the problems you have with it are because it is illegal and the girls are not protected. If it was safely regulated, do you think you would still have a problem with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:37 PM
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Red Pill theory is not about spinning plates. Red pill theory is to explain to men why they have trouble attracting women and how to become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:05 PM
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It was never something I've had to 'admit', exposure to TRP just let me see that there are a great many men butthurt by the double standard. The reason I asked is because the popular natrative is about the male gaze...Not the ugly male gaze. You're the first person I've heard admit that, so I was wondering if it was a general thing most women talk about, or you were made to reflect on that point and word it the way you did because of TRP. My hypothesis is that it's the former. Frankly I assume m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:57 PM
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Thank you for the honesty. Do you think being exposed to TRP helped you to admit that you're not against the male gaze if it is from someone you find very hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:33 AM
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I don't know the science, but I can tell you by experience that many women prefer a guy who can grow long beautiful hair. I hypothesize it is so that it can be added to her offspeing. Despite this though, it seems many women still like a clean cut man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:20 AM
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Saying all American men is a generalization; to be fair. You'd have to at least split it in 2. City and country. But generally speaking the American dream is about money, including for women. Affording a nice apartment in Manhattan is not easy, and I think that is more of the angle we strive for as the American male, and a comfort American women enjoy. If you provide them that, they would think it is cool that you dress down. As far as country life, it is about working hard and not necessarily a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:19 AM
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Women don't just sleep with anyone; Generally. For a man who has had sex with many, it means he has qualities they like. So he gets more of them. That is admirable. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it's by nature or society, but it's demasculating when many other men had sex with your girl. I think it's that simple. The ideas can be expamded upon, but there is the foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:07 AM
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If you go back and look, you are the only one throwing insults. I gave you the definition of celebrated, you cannot invent a new one. Kim Kardashian is not celebrated. We follow them like it is a circus. Out of 100% of sane people we both know, none of them would dream their kid made money the way kim did. The vast majority of parents would reccomend something that we actually celebrate. Like an astronaut. Wealthy, intelligent, and adored. Edit: removed the word glorified in an attempt to stop s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:09 AM
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Anything that is sold legally and then profitably is celebrated, is not correct 100% of the time. Burden is now on you to prove that something that is both profitable and glorified in popular culture is not celebrated. A position that could only stem from emotion. You said that. I gave you the cigarette example. Just because something like cigarettes sell does not mean we celebrate. cel·e·bra·ted /ˈseləˌbrādəd/ adjective greatly admired; renowned Therefore just because sex work is profitable lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:54 AM
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Everything you said is emotional. Watch what logical rebuttal looks like: Anything that is sold legally and then profitably is celebrated, Cigarettes are sold legally, and highly profitable. Yet cigarettes are not celebrated in our culture...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:13 PM
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Its clear all you have left are insults and no substance. Another example is that in our culture, we hear the word "whore" used far more than "sexually empowered woman". If you can't see that illustrates promiscuity isn't celebrated, then idk what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 10:48 AM
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Sex sells. Yet sex is not celebrated in our culture. Crack sells, is that celebrated? How does that math add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:02 PM
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Yes. A majority religious culture with some inner cities that harbor a few people who would celebrate promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:27 PM
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I think the main reason is because of societal norms, and religious foundation. Promiscuous women are not celebrated in our culture thus deemed lower value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:55 PM
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Would you consider confidence and charisma to be "behavior" or "traits"? If so I challenge you to prove that those things aren't two of the main things women are attracted to in the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 09:20 AM
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There are not enough sugar daddies around. In the last few years there has been a push for society to not fear female sexuality, and a push to show that women love sex as well. Since women love sex, simply saying to them "stop having casual sex" is a waste of breath. You should find a new strategy that is semi sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:19 AM
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To the logical RP men (not some of the emotional posters) the facts outlined here are just another example to illustrate that there is a difference between male and female attraction. Then based on the nature of "rape fantasies" we can also add merit to the hypothesis that most women want a more dominant man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:21 PM
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TRP: This is clearly a staged photo.....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:13 PM
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There was a meme posted that says: "Unsupervised access to the internet since I was 8 has given me an altered perception of reality". I think that applies to you as much as anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:58 AM
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This is one of the best getbacks I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:46 AM
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I see where you are going with this, in reality it's more like: PPD men: Are you willing to sacrifice some fun and excitement in a relationship for loyalty and honesty? Girls: Fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:43 AM
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You're right. There are multitudes of great women. Besides that point; I think the main focus of thought processes like red pill is to discuss what really attracts women. For lack of a better term; Because she would prefer a "Chad" does not necessarily mean she is not well-adjusted and laid back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:17 AM
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A high percentage of men have no second thoughts about a woman 4 inches shorter than him. The same cannot be said for women. A high percentage of men would not mind if they made an abundance of money and their partners did not work, tended family and was the subservient one in the relationship. The same cannot be said for women. Those two examples illustrate major differences in what men and women want IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:50 AM
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Understood. So it's that they don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:44 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean it's all hormone/instinct driven?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:28 PM
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You're late, the book was already written: What Shamu Taught Me About Life, Love, and Marriage: Lessons for People from Animals and Their Trainers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:25 AM
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Why do you think that is hard to admit for many women? Do you think it is because they don't know, are ashamed of it, do they not want naturally low confidence men to ever have the possibility of improving to be with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:12 AM
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We agree on most things. Much of what you said does not apply to me....For example I would not think your friend liked the guy because she had a boyfriend.....But 100% aligned with my point, it was likely his confident approach that was #1.(inspite her bf) The way that you know men like boobs and I can confirm. Is all I ask from women, Actually say what attracts you first, so the guys with A-cups can know to wear a pushup bra. We made strides here but many women would not even say, or are in tun…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:36 PM
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Thank you for the response. I read all of it, fully understand it and agree with much of it. IMO you gave me synonyms and definitions but did not actually refute my point. I'll try to illustrate how below, I hope you can make it through; Charisma is definitely a positive trait, in romantic/sexual attraction but also 'platonic attraction' (if someone says a performa has 'charisma' it means 'that extra something that makes their presentation engaging - it makes sense that if a person is more engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:27 PM
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Hi, I was wondering if you saw my response to this a couple days ago, and if you had any thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:19 AM
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Well first off, I'd probably go with 'self-confidence' over aggression For sake of argument, I will change the word to confidence. But for the record, I think there is an angle missing by totally disregarding the word aggression when discussing female attraction overall. The point still stands that traits like confidence and charm seem to often trump traits like niceness and loyalty IRL. For instance, I've know charismatic entrepreneur types who have reputations for being narcissistic, unfaithfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 02:44 PM
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I think the main point of value for men in this discussion is how women rank those traits in men. Everyone wants a "balanced" person not just women, yet perfectly balanced people are hard to find. In Lieu of a perfectly balanced man, it appears most women are far more willing to sacrifice the "nice" traits for the aggressive traits, leading most men to believe that niceness is not as important as aggression...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:34 AM
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Actions speak louder than words. It does not matter what women say if they do the opposite. I would argue each gender is equally as "shallow" because many of us do not prioritize qualities that make the most sense for a relationship. Like loyalty, niceness etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:14 AM
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Translation: Tell yourself that you're a little victim. I fully accept reality. I've lowered my standards and upped my game. You are the one being a little victim by not admitting any fault in the dating sphere. Word of advice: If a guy is only a good person for pussy, he's a piece of shit. You recycle talking points to me....This is obvious....It's still facts that niceness does not attract women.....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:56 AM
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The next step is to see how female attraction itself is 50% of the problem, of why they seem to choose men who end up sharing different values, fairly commonly. "Values are not the main attractor".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:38 PM
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Yeah, but I also dont go around claiming all men only want the perfect women and complain when I cant meet unrealistic standards that I place on myself. No one ever said women only date perfect men. What you won't admit it seems : Niceness in men is not as important to attraction than other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:49 PM
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This is relative. A 5'6 woman who wants a 5'7 man is a size queen to a 5'3 man. I would marry a 4'9 woman. So tallness is not important to me, but I would prefer a shorter woman, so I can feel like a man with her. At least I can admit that. This almost seems like an attempt to distance yourself from an ugly reality about female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:40 AM
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Point 1 - The traits you listed here are what woman look for in general. I love the phrase "big dick energy" It almost proves red pill and i've never even heard it. Point 2 - I think you can fully relate to why it sucks not being wanted by the other sex. The system of attractiom is not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:32 AM
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Lets use men's attraction as an example. While most men would not agree on who the most attractive women is, there are basic traits that most would agree upon. Most would rather C cups over A cups. Etc. Same with women, there are qualities about a male that most like. Most of the time the guy they agree upon is the leader of the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:13 AM
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The only women who approach me are the one's who feel like they are way below my league. The one's who feel like they are on my league play the mad face/ignore me game, and the one's who feel above it are either general friendly or play the ignore game. If others have similar experiences, maybe thats why they say that. Only the girls shooting a long shot approach, the rest stay put and see if your approach is more clever than the last.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 12:30 PM
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Who would gladly accept not being able to fulfill one of your strongest drives? Just because they will still be angry, does not mean the current anger is false. If women did all come out and be honest, it would at least force those men to figure out a new angle. Maybe it would force more elite tech engineers to push themselves, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 12:21 PM
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Sorry to hear about your childhood. Thanks. But I have no more time to feel sorry for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 11:16 AM
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I have been sexually assaulted as a child and adult. As a child it probably was not as psychologically damaging as a girl being force raped but it did change who I was. Instead of being an innocent child like most of my friends, sex was on the forefront of my mind even in the first grade. I would tell people my stories, and when we got old enough to realize it was weird to be sexual with family, I started to feel alienated and be made fun of. As far as long term effects, I think the fear and sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:02 PM
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Traditionally marriage is not about two people's spirituality toward one another, it's about piece of mind, children and resources. I don't have an exact number, but I hypothesize the % of married couples who have been married over a decade that still have an idealistic view of marriage like you is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 11:40 AM
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Fair enough...I guess you are in the minority of people who don't want attention from the other sex. Or you're lying for sake of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:40 PM
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So after this boyfriend you would remain single forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:40 PM
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We would probably sill be in the jungles. I think showing off for women helped take us to the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:38 PM
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If you and your boyfriend broke up, would you want to continue being treated as a non sexual being by all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:31 PM
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There is a tier of men who enjoy different status in womens eyes. I Hypothesize you never hung out with a top tier model type. 100% of the time I hang with that type, the shy girls stare, the normal girls make extra loud comments to their friends, and the bold girls approach and start conversations. This is only for that top tier, not even a guy who is a 9 will get that full treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:42 AM
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Guys who are aggressive don't need to be dancing monkeys. They naturally attract women. If you have a bunch of insecurities (a lot of men) that is unattractive, so you have to put on a sort of show in the attraction phase. A lot of people are salty they were not born Jason Mamoa, because his type is the only type that doesn't have to do some sort of "monkey dance".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:04 PM
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Different cultures deal with different issues. I live in NYC, where I don't know of 1 girl friend with a 3 month rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:30 PM
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Thats fine, replace preference with orientation then...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:27 PM
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Admit what? Each side does not like to admit they are 50% of the problem. Men and women are both guilty for current dating and attraction issues. "What do you want in a guy", she'll list off BOYFRIEND QUALITIES. I agree, but then many girls we observe go against those same qualities, and seem to prioritize "Alpha" qualities, or leadership and aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:25 PM
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I would argue the problem is closer to 50-50. Men and women play a part. Each side just does not like to admit it, especially when they have been burned before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:49 PM
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Replace the word method with preference then. The questions I asked her does not really transfer to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:48 PM
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It's not unfair. Where the problem comes from is that women don't admit that. They confuse men by saying they require positive emotional qualities, when the priority seems to be male agression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 08:33 AM
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You sound like a mature person and I'd love to pick your brain. I have a couple of questions if you would be so kind: 1) Do you have a 100% make a guy wait rate? Or was there 1 or 2 that you didn't make wait 3 monts through the years? 2) Did you always have this method, or was it developed over years? 3) What % of your friends, and what % of women in America do you hypothesize utilize such a method?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 08:28 AM
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I'm not trying to insult you, it is the honest truth. It is moot if you are trying to actually reach a conclusion about modern relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:14 PM
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You know most girls don't have a 3 mont rule, and this post being popular does not correlate. You also cannot refute my second point that you ignore responses that prove you wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 12:02 PM
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Few women have a 3 month rule anymore, so this is a moot conversation. Even if you got a logical answer, you'd just ignore it and continue with the same talking points...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:49 AM
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So I guess we can say, men simply don't like negative male traits like aggression and promiscuousness. So that is why they want a passive girl to stay at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 11:56 PM
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This is a large beat around the bush, to simply not admit that women like "negative" male traits... Such as aggression...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:55 AM
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But alot of guys deny it. So when pretty girl fucks him over, he yells at the normal/ugly girls "YOU'RE ALL EVIL FOR NOT FUCKING ME!" You should take time off of Reddit. Stop communicating with people who act like that. So women dont have "types"? They just all love the same kind of guy? Guys have types also, but you can still comfortably say, "guys like hot women". Can you see how that correlates? That doesn't mean we're at fault when a man has poor taste in women. It is safe for me to say "nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:05 PM
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Ok so you want me to say my favorite is some background character who doesn't do anything. No. People don't usually get time to notice what the background character is doing because their focus is usually on the most captivating person. That is often what people miss. It's not the silence of the person or them being boisterous, etc. It's the dominance/leadership abilities
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:49 AM
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The bad boy chasers. Why? Because they were prettiest. They would put up with their bad attitudes because how pretty and how slutty they were. Yes, men do give beautiful women more of a pass. It's not logically correct to do most of the time, but we do it. I'm sure you can relate, you would probably treat your dream guy better than me off the bat. Girls all across the spectrum want the most exciting/"bad" boy available to them, not just the hott slutty ones All I'm trying to get you to see is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:42 AM
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My favorite (Ginko) is a humble traveler who goes from place to place solving mysteries Can you see the discrepancy? Guys do not require all of that, sometimes women do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 11:08 PM
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You never addressed my question to you...What qualities do you think attracts women? Here’s another problem: Men not being honest about their own goals. Too many guys pretend they want love but when you look deep into what theyre doing: They want to be fuck bois. Women dont respect fuck bois. Women equally are not honest about their goals. They think they want a lover, but their actions show they want a player... Please address this issue in your next response
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 11:03 PM
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TL;DR : I will pay you $100 via paypal if you can show me 10 instances where a woman avoided obvious playboys. My hypothesis is that 8/10 times they chased that person Women have better things to do than care about a man’s harem. In fact, women avoid obvious playboys unless she’s just wants a one night stand (or money if he’s a sugar daddy). In these discussions, both parties often miss the point. I know you can relate. Honestly in my experience. The man who is attracting dozens of women is usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 09:45 PM
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I think when you say silent you leave out a main part of what attracts you. Those are all powerful men, the silence is not attracting you in and of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:43 PM
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Actually, I've seen the complete opposite. Because that's the main thing men here whine about. "Women lied to me about what they want" even though women didn't fucking say that. What we were misinformed about is what attracts women. Most women want a man who is "nice". But "niceness" is not what attracts women. I thought men were the more honest gender, and yet they have to blame women for this over-glorification of sex? I would argue both genders equally put value on whether or not a man can at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:41 PM
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Also, who TF orbits a married chick? That seems like the worst sexual strategy ever Married chicks put out. Naturally, most people don't revere their spouse 10 years in like they did in week 2. Many married women are bored, and/or have established dominance over the man and is no longer attracted/in the process of losing attraction. IMO they are sometimes easier to get closer to, and they are sometimes more desperate for affection than the average single girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:11 AM
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“I just want a man who worships the very ground I walk on!” If you've been anywhere near RP ideas, you already know no one thinks girls want a man who "worships the ground they walk on"... That sounds as unattractive as can be...... The only way men will ever have a fulfilling life is if he gets laid!” I've never heard a woman say that, but women put value behind you getting laid, or if they see you with a beautiful woman...Women are almost so predictable that way, that you know if that hott gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:07 AM
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Edward Scissorhands?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:39 AM
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Gee I hope you are right, internet gets really gross sometimes. So you say men here are just venting? Isn't it easier to go to the gym or boxing ring and relieve their stress and aggression there? I don't think the guys who you are talking about are the type of guys who go take aggression out at the gym. They are likely not aggressive people IRL, so this anonymous forum is where they probably vent frustration. **Not being aggressive is also likely why they have trouble attracting women. My exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:18 AM
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Men IRL don't circlejerk and talk about women's behavior. IMO you are just as emotional as the guys you hate online, and if you cannot see some of the stereotypes as true, idk how to reason with you on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 12:44 AM
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I don't think we were lied to purposely, but I think we were misinformed. There has been a large change in the human experience in the last 100 years, and our culture is one on the forefront of cultural change, especially relating to gender. I think both male and female attraction on an instinctual level was developed for a time that is no longer relevant in our culture, and neither us or our living elders fully know how to define everything that is occurring, or how to identify and solve all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 02:03 AM
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If you are a girl and you give me a chance to talk to you, I'll appreciate you. I will bet all my money just me giving you a chance to express yourself to me, won't mean shit to you. Because you have multiple men willing to listen........
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:04 AM
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Sex was invented for reproduction. So those who reproduce are fulfilling it's purpose. Whether you think they are dumb or not, horny adolescents having multipe children fulfils the intention and invention of sex and sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 01:57 AM
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I think in a time when no one understood STD's and people started trying to create civilization and resources became the individuals, monogamy was a good invention to help society come out of the jungles and plains. Today it may not be as crucial for civilization, but I'm not sure of a tested method that is more stable for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:45 PM
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It's not a clearly defined term and there is a spectrum. I think the basics are Self confidence, and not being afraid of confrontation. Believing you deserve things and taking them when it is uncomfortable and others are not brave enough to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:29 PM
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The internet makes things seem worse than they are. It may be harder for millenials, but there are millions of "good" women. I reccomend finding a girl who is close with her family, even a religious girl if you want someone to marry. If you want casual sex, then it is not a bad time to be a guy. You just have to work on your self worth, social skills and game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:21 PM
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I've seen girls use those words equally or more than men do. I've seen multiple cases where an attractice guy walks in, most of the girls are being a "lady" or playing the game where they pretend they are not that interested, then a "whore" walks in, jumps all over the guy then the girls who were playing it cool hates on that girl and calls her those names. A good friend of mine also told me that women don't just dress up for men, they dress up to "stunt on other women". Moral of the story, take…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:14 PM
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I do not agree with the sentiment that men are only attracted to feminine women and vice versa. I never said the words "only attracted to" I said attracted to. So I'll update that to say "mostly attracted to". it's always the pretty boys. What women classify as "pretty" regarding a man is nothing close to what men classify as "pretty" in a woman. A man can be "rugged" and "pretty" at the same time like Jason mamoa. I have never seen a woman prefer "skinny" over "fit" without taking into account …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 12:48 PM
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My mind is open. I understand what you are saying and society does play a part in social norms. I wish it were different. But it appears that "men are attracted to femanine women, and women are attracted to masculine men". If that does not resonate with you even 1% as true, then we will never get anywhere in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:42 PM
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Evolution perfected women's attraction, to be attracted to men capable of thriving in a dangerous and violent planet. You cannot change them with words. Sometimes times it takes years of painful learning before they appreciate other qualities in a partner. Accept you are not that guy and either up your game or lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 11:33 AM
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My feelings before RP were more like 80% Depression 20% anger. There was no real light at the end of the tunnel as to how I would fix my attractiveness. Women and technology had all of my focus. ​ After being exposed to RP, I was able to identify my issues and start making progress to fix them. There is still some salt that I have to wash away for even having to go through this, but I realize the sooner the salt is all gone, the better for my attractiveness. Now instead of just women and technol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:55 PM
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> How much do you trust studies? I've never thought about that deeply, but I would say that I don't live my life by "studies" ​ > What types of inquiry do you value in regards to dating, sex/gender and attraction? My life experiences and people who I respect and have proven to me that they are logical's life experiences. ​ > How much do you trust your intuitions(gut feelings)? I don't really trust my gut feelings, but I trust the educated guesses I make based on over a decade of thoughtful obser…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:50 PM
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I'm RP but the lines are blurred now as to what that means. So I guess you can say purple. ​ Patrice O'neal said this first but I will put it into my own words: ​ As a guy if you are not in the top percentile, you have to earn/impress/talk your way into sex, it is never freely given to you. We go through all these hoops of being charming, saying the right things etc. to fulfill our biological drive, then when we satisfy that drive, we are left with our own minds and logic. ​ Most of the time the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:31 PM
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>But I disgress: If a slut is good in bed, fucks you sooner than most girls would, lets you sleep with other women, and doesn't have high standards for you to meet, how is she a bad investment? ​ It's insecurity. If you are not fully comfortable with yourself and your partner has been with hundreds of guys, you will feel like (and probably be right) one of the past guys was better than you. ​ The hypothesis seems to be that if you were her only, she would be more willing to put up with your flaw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:16 PM
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This is true, But women would still prefer an alpha as her first choice whether in a large or small social circle. ​ If he is great looking that is a huge added bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:07 PM
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Great point, I didn't even think about that. It's too late to bring this conversation back up, but the girls will likely find some gymnastics around it as to not admit the truth. In this case they would probably just not respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:55 PM
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I saw a woman on r/sex I believe, say that she faked orgasms because her SO wanted her to orgasm every time, and even if she said "no its ok you get off" he would insist that he will just try harder and he guarantees she will get off. So she would fake it to appease him and get it over with. That opened my eyes because I was just like that guy, and looking back I had at least 1 or 2 fakes given to me for that reason. ​ If she is gonna let you get off while she's not 100% in the mood, just go ahe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:49 PM
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30 is a generalization. ​ Some women are very attractive well into their 40's, thus still have higher value options. ​ I wouldn't call it "desperate", what happens is that they lose some of their ideal requirements for men that they had when younger. It's on a spectrum of how many men seem interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:06 PM
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Sure, lets leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:11 AM
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Lol...Have a great night.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:04 AM
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Is english a second language for you? No disrespect, im curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:58 AM
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My response to your argument, is that a 6'6 255lb dude that is very good looking and no one would fuck with appears to signal "providership qualities" to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:30 AM
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"That women would likely feel nothing without seeing Game of Thrones." That was your original comment. My response: "You may not feel anything, but many girls will"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:15 AM
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That was a pretty basic statement... You were talking about the character in the book, while I was talking about the show. So I dropped that because too much typing. Again: "All women want an alpha, but some women would sleep with a hot guy even if he is alpha or not".....Like Jason Mamoa.......
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:52 AM
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Since ur a girl I have to take your words into account. I'll rephrase then: All women want alpha men ("killers" to use your term) But some women will sleep with a very physically hot guy even if he was not an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:40 AM
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Yes, and my seed also.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:14 PM
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You can pee on me if you'd like
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:10 PM
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I just realized they were 2 different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:44 PM
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She replied with a comment about the books. Diverting our conversation, instead of addressing it like you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:43 PM
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I know that, but I'm 97.8% sure the person I was talking to would not admit that....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:37 PM
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> That women would likely feel nothing without seeing Game of Thrones. ​ The use of the word "seeing" and us talking about Jason Mamoa made me feel like you were talking about the t.v. show. ​ Again, I find it interesting you say a picture of him would do nothing, but after seeing his character kidnap and rape, it will stir up feelings. ​ Edit: and murder, #foodforthought
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:27 PM
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False. Women from small towns treat me like I'm Jason Mamoa just seeing me. I'm no where near that attractive. Edit: I also find it interesting you equate "Raw Sexual Desire" with a character who is a kidnapper and rapist, food for thought. I would think after seeing GOT she would lose that attraction?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:36 PM
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It's how a woman from a small town without any physically "hot" people, that's without electricity or internet feels the first time she see's Jason Mamoa on a torn magazine page.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:26 PM
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These responses are what I expected, and 100% in line with RPT. ​ Not angry posters, but the actual logic in the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:15 PM
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I think you are wrong to assume most people want someone "more conforming". Most women in your shoes would be wanting that same guy, not one of the quiet ones...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:11 PM
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I know "Alpha" guys (with multiple alpha traits and attracts a good amount of women) who make many mistakes in relationships. Most people have some sort of flaws. ​ An example are some of my white friends who have adopted a "flirting with others is completely fine in a relationship" attitude. They get burnt in the long run as any time there is some relationship hardship, they both go and flirt with others. I know deep down it bothers them more than they act. ​ This takes a toll on the relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:24 PM
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You see a lot of posts on there from angry guys, which may leave a bad taste in your mouth. But essentially the RP advice is: ​ "Be a man, women love men". We need RP though because it does not seem women know how to articulate what about men attracts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:48 PM
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Fighting is the pinnacle of social dynamics. The dudes who are willing to fight, run the show. ​ If some guy came in with his nails polished, but you've seen him smash someone over the head with a bottle and stab him with it. You're not gonna say shit to him. That is what the women pick up on, his alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:41 PM
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The way I see it, there are 2 parts to this issue: ​ 1) Women are attracted to men who display leadership, and they appear to appreciate financial stability and emotional stability. Men get better at these things when they get older. ​ 2) Men are not attracted to the same things women are, it appears we have more of a drive to be competitive so we don't need a partner to do that for us. Beauty and fertility is what we are after. ​ You will be desirable to thousands of men. The final part to this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:33 PM
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"Blue Pill" is a parody of Red Pill. ​ I've never seen any logic presented from "Blue Pill" like the sidebar of the Red Pill subreddit. ​ For instance some data that may support blue pill would be "Marriages where women make more than men only has a 12% divorce rate". ​ We all know no such data exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:44 PM
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I actually think women are more interested in men than men are in women. ​ Have you ever seen thousands of men passing out and crying at the sight of a beautiful rich woman? Now think if you've ever seen that from girls. ​ The difference is, men are interested in a broader range of women, but women would give 100% of their being to the right man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:41 PM
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I think that was just a backlash against women's sexuality being repressed in the past. ​ I think talking to a man in 1920, the right phrase would have been "women want sex more than you think they do". ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 08:15 PM
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Not likely to be a problem! Agreed. That still does not adress any of my points or anwser that question... The answer is likely "No, I don't want a man shorter than me"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 09:29 PM
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> Good God I am 5’2”. You have to be a midget to be a man who is shorter than me. ​ That did not address any of the points I brought up. But by your tone I guess you are confirming that you don't want a guy who is 5'1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:37 PM
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By good man do you mean "Taller than me, semi-handsome, makes more than 60k, stands up for himself and can protect his children, etc.." ​ Or do you mean someone that will be supportive of you emotionally, help you with house chores, willing to change diapers, etc. ​ I think you are hoping for all of the above, and the reason you're having a hard time finding him is because that is a rare guy. ​ If an emotionally supportive guy who will help with kids were your #1 and #2 priority, and you activel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 08:15 PM
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I understand exactly where you are coming from. In the beginning especially, for an introvert like me, it took so much energy to approach women and do all the things right that attracts them. ​ What has helped me is to identify my own shallowness. You're a human as well, you're not a vulcan. If a girl is not attractive enough I don't even give her a chance. I'm 100% sure you are the same way. This is the same with girls. What they find attractive just varies slightly. Don't look at them as shall…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 01:35 PM
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I'm 19
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 04:58 PM
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Tequila shots till 4 a.m, I've got a headache just reading that. I don't even really do the shots anymore sadly. One here or there, but I'm too old now to wake up in the morning and have no memory of what transpired. Have you ever had to do the apology tour? Wake up and everyone is grilling you and just start off with "I'm sorry" to everyone as you try to piece the story of shame together... ​ Humans are diverse, so we cannot put millions of people into the same boat without considering any vari…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 04:31 PM
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You should not make assumptions about another person's private life, that is my point. ​ ...... ​ Your comments to Le Factory Babe were that she would become abusive to her man, after giving him the ol' dead bedroom of course. It was unfair and bad logic. ​ It's not unfair I'm sure she was unaffected. It's not bad logic and it is based on over 20 years of observation in my case, and supported by thousands of years of accumulated observations by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:52 PM
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Uh...you are spending all your time on the Dead Bedrooms subreddit so you think all relationships follow the same trajectory ​ I've spent about 2 hours total in the last six months on the dead bedroom subreddit. I just care about those people especially the men, since a little dose of red pill would have saved many of them. ​ This more than anything else is confirmation that you need to spend less time on Reddit and more time being happy. ​ I've been spending more time on reddit because of a new…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:27 PM
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That is the baseline for all relationships. One sign that a theory is true is the ability to make predictions using it. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:18 PM
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Yes, resentful is the word I used. Which in cases turns into verbal abuse. Even physical. ​ Go to r/DeadBedrooms and read some of the stories there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:09 PM
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I miss staying up drinking till 6 am and feeling fine the next day, but that's more of an age/life stage thing than a relationship thing. ​ I didn't think the good ol' 2 day hangovers were real until it hit. I swear it lingers longer than that too, I partied in Trinidad recently and I was mildly hung over for about a week. ​ Honestly, I don't feel like we've ever left the honeymoon period. There was never some abrupt change to our relationship, I feel the same way as I did four years ago. ​ That…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 02:33 PM
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There's no dread or anything like that, the last thing he'd want to do is make me feel like shit. "Dread game" seems like a more effective college technique, when many of the girls are promiscuous. Grown men aren't rubbing it in their SO's face in the name of red pill. It has to be done subtly. How are his friendships with both males and females?? We often hear about the "puppy love" phase running out. If anything, what things do you miss/what got worse, and what would you say got better over ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:43 PM
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Red pill is a theory; as such new data keeps coming in and we can tweak certain corners of it as we learn. If you don't mind for the sake of argument and science, may I ask you a few questions? How tall/fit/facially good looking is this guy? Would you say You or him is more alpha in core personality/are you more comfortable being the center of attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:42 PM
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It's based on a hypothesis, that I have seen confirmed and many others have too. In general, women don't want you to be her puppy "Ohh you are the best I've ever had and I can't get any other like you" They want you to be the dominant one "I care for you, but I'm not going to put up with any bs". Part of having that strength for many men is knowing, and her knowing that you can get someone else. Edit: Once she has broken you down to that point she starts becoming resentful towards you. I hypothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:31 PM
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Poor guy...I hope you guys can continue to keep the spark going. And for the sake of proving us wrong, don't get tired of him and become abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 10:56 PM
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> He's told me as much, that if anything ever happened with us he'd just be done dating altogether. ​ Sounds like some good game, since he likely cannot know that and likely does not truly mean it....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 09:29 PM
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>Why do think being perpetually single is a bad thing? That sounds like an awesome time ​ Being single does have its perks, but as someone without access to constant casual sex or money for escorts constantly, being perpetually single is taxing on my psychi. Part of it may be ego, but a crave for intimacy does build up. ​ In the case of women, I have confirmed that they build up that same crave for intimacy, and they even end up doing things they regret because of it; so I feel part of you is sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:27 PM
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> Nexting someone who isn't suitable is way better than being coupled with the wrong person ​ I agree ​ > I don't know what you're getting at here ​ Evaluating whether one contributes to the power dynamics is better advice than to just keep nexting people. I hypothesize you will end up perpetually single. ​ > I'm sorry you don't feel comfortable being alone. You should work on that. ​ Nice try at an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:05 PM
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She has the right to complain, as we have the right to not take her complaining seriously. ​ To be fair, she is not attracted to his sexist comments, but likely attracted to his alpha personality, and his ability to make sexist comments confidently while 80% of the population are now white knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:54 PM
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I have never met a heterosexual woman who does not want a man who is more masculine than them. ​ Or to put it this way, No woman wants a man who is more feminine than them. ​ I think that fact imposes a sort of power dynamic from the outset.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:49 PM
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Normally, I would say that it is not possible.(99.7% unlikely) ​ But now in 2019 with all of the education we have, I would argue that for your wanted scenario to come true, you would have to evaluate what about your personality contributes to these "power dynamics". For instance, hypothetically if you "bitched a guy out" evaluate whether you would be attracted to him anymore and why. Part of men's drive to "not be a bitch" is the female repulsion towards being that. ​ Then you would have to fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:44 PM
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How well is that working for you? "Nexting" all of these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 02:35 PM
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Keep your RMV and SMV high. Continue to be a social person, and hold on to your friends; especially the female ones. ​ Don't let her fall into a period of nagging, have discussions right then and there about how you feel. Make sure she always knows that if she gets too unbearable, you will gladly leave. ​ Do those things and I wouldn't worry. Plus you may get some of her money if she divorces you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:33 PM
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It takes a combination of things to be a "natural". There is also a "spectrum of alpha" we can call it, as everyone is different. ​ First and most importantly, I think it boils down to hormones and chemical balance. If a person has high testosterone and dopamine/endorphin levels, they will naturally be someone people gravitate to. This possibly mostly boils down to genetics and how lucky you are. ​ Secondly, I think being raised to believe that you are worth something and you feel loved is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 03:47 PM
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Although I think there is truth to what you said, I think at least 50% of it is: ​ Most women have men willing to date them and have sex. Guys sell girls their best sides in the beginning so the wife may feel like there is much better out there and it is available to her. While the guy values the simple fact that in theory, he has a constant source of sex without having to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:55 PM
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The only game plan you can execute in a few hours is to google "escorts in my area". ​ Fixing your insecurities takes months to years to accomplish. One of the weirdest but best pieces of advice, is to stop giving an F. ​ Quick story, I knew this guy (he was 36 at the time) he had been divorced, he was a huge nerd, and gave up on his appearance, to the point where he had tape holding his glasses together. He completely stopped giving an F. One day Him, I, and another friend were at a bar. Me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 09:43 PM
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I'm not MGTOW, but as a guy, I presume constantly reinforcing why you are going against your role and desire given by nature is a way to actually be successful on that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 09:35 PM
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I'm not MGTOW, but as a guy, I presume constantly reinforcing why you are going against your role and desire given by nature is a way to actually be successful on that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 09:34 PM
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Red Pill is not Incel rhetoric. ​ If a guy was not born naturally with what attracts women, and his actions turn them off, Red Pill teaches that person what he is doing wrong. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 05:14 PM
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Yeah okay and? Online and real life don’t always match up. Because emotions factor into sexual attraction. Basic stuff. I'm not sure where this is going, but back to my original point: ​ Men like a broader range of women. Women are far more selective of their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 01:23 PM
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Those same girls would hook up with a 9.6 from the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 03:23 AM
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You must live in a place with lots of hot guys running around. ​ I've been to small towns where women don't have a large selection of men, and you would be surprised how horny they are for a decent looking guy. Straight male like lust. ​ It also manifests when you keep women in a place with only women for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:13 PM
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I'm not even sure how this is true in theory. I know many guys who would look at a picture of a 6 and be willing. While most girls I know would look at a picture of a 6 and require him to have other qualities before she is attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:10 PM
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>Women are attracted to a wider variety of men than men are to women. "Sperm is plenty, eggs are much rarer".. That simple fact causes women to be more picky. Your above statement is 100% false. ​ > In other words, you need to be this hot to qualify for further relationship/ONS/STR analysis. Once a guy reaches that threshold, we begin judging his other qualities You also forgot the other threshold; that a guy can be hot enough that it sparks heavy attraction before you get to know who he is. Twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:08 PM
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Keep your HR department open bro. When she looks deep into your eyes, make sure she knows if she messes up you have other resume's on top of your desk. ​ Don't look back at her with the same girly glittery smile that she is giving you. Then she knows she has you, and will continue her escapades.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 06:52 PM
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Well most actual peer reviewed articles disagree Can you link a few? Chimpanzee scientists also aren’t psychologists That does not prevent her from identifying the similarities in Chimp and Human social interactions. Even amongst most zoologists, the ideas that many species have alpha and beta males is being fizzled out as people learn more about the complexities of animal life. Who are "most zoologists"? What I see from random comments like yours goes against everything I was taught in school, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 01:06 PM
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Note how they are doing it on the sly, also human males are not as lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 11:52 AM
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I agree with you. I would just add that Romcoms and fantasy novels are having the same effect on women. For instance my mom was watching a movie where the main actor in entourage (high level looks) stayed at the side of a woman who was in acoma for a very long time, spending all his free time at the hospital and never entertaining another woman. Right...........
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 01:10 AM
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To use your language, Girls would rather be with a "monster" who is tall confident and charming, than a shy short guy who is a virgin.....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 01:01 AM
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https://youtu.be/vd2NTQPl7D8 National Geographic, based on research
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 12:55 AM
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https://youtu.be/vd2NTQPl7D8 This documentary explains that betas still get laid, but it explains to you what an aplha male is...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 12:54 AM
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Here is a 45 minute national geographic documentary about alpha males, and a female scientist who spent time with chimps in the wild seeing the same behaviors in humans....... https://youtu.be/vd2NTQPl7D8
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 12:53 AM
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Don't take yourself and others too seriously. Avoiding certain situations does not make you a punk. No one will find your happiness for you. No one knows what happiness means for you, and be confident about what makes you happy when you identify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:31 PM
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There is not someone for everyone, yet no one is destined to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:27 PM
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Being a leader is the path for the short guy, the path for the ugly guy, the same path for the tall guy, the same path for the big jaw. Can we not figure this out? Did I not? Who is we? I've observed that since elementary school. You said looks does not matter and that is not true. You adress me as if I am an incel who says an ugly man cannot increase his smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:15 AM
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For the sake of keeping it simple: I'm telling you again. Looks barely matter for a guy. A woman can be deeply in love with a fat guy, even a fat, if he is a real man, a real leader, who really loves her and takes her with him. Yes, but she would rather have a hot guy be that leader 100%. The hot:leader ratio will differ for each girl. But I would argue if you are elite in either of those factors, you will have an easy time attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 02:57 AM
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Congrats, keep your head up and good luck with your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 02:19 AM
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But you need to understand what women think of when they think hot. Looks are almost unimportant to a woman, once a man isn't a fat disgusting loser. Looks are not unimportant to women. There is a threshold that most of us do not meet where most women would sleep with you on looks alone. Girls actually approach these guys and all they have to do to sleep with her is not say anything dumb. If he does not want to continue to sleep with random women and actually wants to keep one, then his alpha tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 02:13 AM
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My eyes are open, I desire admittal from the other side so we can have an honest discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 02:04 AM
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It's just that they would rather be with an attractive man over a groveling follower. I know this, I would go even further to say women would rather be with an attractive man(alpha) than a man with low self esteem, but is a 7/10 looks wise while doing things like make sure his mother is taken care of. Hot > taking care of others. It just don't matter as much cause he won't bring home a baby, just maybe the herp or some itchy crabs. I also know this Hot > the risk of cheating, or the lame of dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 11:35 PM
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Nobody is attracted to whatever bizarre shit you define as good character. In fact I can almost guarantee you that what you prob think is "good character" is incredibly unattractive. You're a charmer. Bizarre shit? I am referring to the things women say they want...Whether they are lying to make men feel better and only want a tall guy with a big dick is a different discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 11:29 PM
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How old are you? It seems some women do not realize this into their 40's.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 10:56 PM
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If you don't like that then do your best to teach your daughters. That is great advice. I've been pondering for a while how I will do that, because no matter what I say, they likely still will want a confident, tall, strong, handsome man. What I hope to instill in her is to be able to identify what she wants, then identify what is attracting her to a person, and hopefully she will be honest when she evaluates if its looks and game she is being to attracted to instead of good character.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 10:54 PM
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How some red pillers act, and the fact that men do it too, does not make the red pill sentiment on the topic false...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 09:42 PM
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you have it wrong. attractive men dont follow rules, thats part of whats attractive about them - your comment What I am trying to convey: Women are attracted to rule breakers, yet expect them to follow the rules of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:55 PM
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U 2
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:50 PM
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Do you agree in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:48 PM
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Why would I answer that when you preface it with you will regret asking because of my answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:47 PM
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Sigh....Im not that hype about this convo to go back and copy and paste for you..... TL;DR women don't act like they expect a succesful person who always bends the rules to bend the rules when it comes to their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:44 PM
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The truth is that alpha male types are more likely to cheat. Most women know that. All I am asking is women carry themselves through life as if they have this wisdom, since most of you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:41 PM
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So avoiding people who break the rules is refusing to live? My end game would be to have women be honest with themselves, and even before that, be aware what attracts them like you seem to be. You are aware but I think you are being dishonest if you say you are fine getting cheated on by a succesful man who bends the rules. If I am wrong about that then fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:34 PM
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Ugly feet...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:30 PM
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That is the weakest rebuttal....My end game is having girls be honest. I am using the term bad boy to simpmify the quote: "Yes I like him because he is a bad boy. Bad boys put themselves before everyone including me but I will try to change that. If/when I fail trying to make him settle down I won't hold it against all men because all men are not bad boys."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:28 PM
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Was the bold an accident? That happened to me b4. Being faithful is a "rule" of a monogamous relationship as you pointed out in your second statement. I am not discussing the rules of an open marriage. It has everything to do with what I asked you regarding your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:16 PM
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If one knows successful people don't follow the rules. Why would one try to get with a successful person and expect them to follow the rules of a marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:08 PM
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So every woman who gets cheated on by an attractive man and complains/gets depressed about it is neurotic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:07 PM
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So why would a "successful person" live by the rules of a relationship and faithfullness???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:00 PM
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Then most women wanna cry when he doesn't follow the rule of faithfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 07:58 PM
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I would argue women are equally as shallow as men. On average: A girl would choose a wealthy tall man who has cheated on partners before, and gives the impression that she is disposable, over a guy she knows will be there for her and has proven he is genuine, but is less exciting. Even if he is handsome. A guy would choose a hot dumb girl with minimal potential if she is available drama free over a girl with good people skills, career potential and compatibility if she is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:11 PM
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Because they are hot, and know how to please men(at least initially). These are the loud hot women that say things like "I love it in my ass daddy", which would excite any non-super hot guy who is not used to hearing such things from a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:18 PM
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Women always like chads and fuckboys. They just reach an age where they can no longer waste time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:15 PM
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I started noticing that females didnt like "nice guys" since elementary school. They gravitated towards the popular guys who were the loudest, even if they bullied people. It was just an observation and I don't think any of the "nice guys" were thinking about girls enough to be desperate at that point in our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:13 PM
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I would have her identify the qualities she wants in a man. I would educate her on what we have seen attracts women on an instinctual level, and make sure what ever guy she chooses has the qualities she listed, and she is not simply being won over by charm and charisma while the guy has none of the qualities she dreamt of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:59 PM
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Lol @ daft. You insult intelligently, yet are too ignorant to realize; not insulting is the way to convey a point so it is received and not blocked out. What truly is obvious is that a woman would want a hot rockstar over an ugly rockstar.....What is less obvious is that women would take an ugly rockstar over a tall handsome shy guy who works at walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:46 PM
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Women loving tall men etc. has nothing to do with the original question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:23 PM
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Vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:20 PM
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All rich musicians have groupies. Not all rich musicians are tall slender and strong. The point is that the money and status makes up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:39 PM
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You are usually on point. But lets be real, its because of the money, status and lifestyle. I was watching a documentary on Elvis. When 100+ girls would go home with Elvis and his 7 friends, and Elvis got all the girls he could handle, the remainder would settle and sleep with his friends simply because they were around his status and probably wanted to cement a chance of coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:25 PM
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If he was smart at all he would just do it without saying, and her reaction would be that to herself. Some people go extreme with the idea of "dread game" but from the inventors mouth; "as a fisherman, she has to smell fish on me and know I can still catch fish so she can act right". Its not about being "mean" to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 02:40 PM
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Most of the stories I have heard, the sex life started way better than where it ended. Looking at many of them with RP glasses on, the women are no longer attracted to the men for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 09:47 PM
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They are using game on these women to attract them. Natural charisma, etc. Many women who date these guys come to the conclusion that guys are jerks, because even though he is being "nice" to them(game) he only really cares about himself and his reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:59 PM
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Yes. Watching too much porn can affect mens minds, and make us crave freakier things from the women in our lives. But I would argue it is not as powerful as being alpha widowed because being with an alpha fulfills your instinctual desires IRL. Watching porn is just fantasy, and we would still have sex with an average girl if she was offering it resistance free.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 01:16 PM
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"However, a lot of trp is coated in hate, observation bias, broscience and other bullshit." You should rephrase that to, "I have seen many angry posts from heartbroken men on the trp subreddit. But as you can see from my post, when the concepts are explained in a calm logical way, it's all true and easy to understand". We can have further discussion on the meaning of AWALT if you would like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 01:08 PM
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If you have ever been to NYC, I have never seen a girl approach an average guy. Partially because they have defenses up, but if approaching is being done, multiple girls try to approach one hot guy. Even still, most girls are too shy to approach any guy and its usually the loud confident ones approaching hot guys only.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 01:00 PM
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TRP has not warned me about any girls...Simple test then, how many guys have you slept with? If it's less than 50 then you are just bsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:57 PM
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You are probably not the type of person to have sex with dozens of random people in a year, single or not. So your comment was bs even hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:22 AM
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To be fair, if you are very unattractive, few women would want you practicing flirting on them.....Many of the men on the "manosphere" end up here because we were deemed unattractive, and that "blue pill" method was met with disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:58 PM
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Thats bs, because you would be using tinder as grindr right now.....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:55 PM
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As others have said, asshole in its traditional sense is not a complete word for what we are trying to convey. I used to be a shy timid guy, and I wouldn't say I made girls around me want to have sex. One day I was at a bar with two girl friends of mine. I think the older one may have liked me but gave up because I never made a move, and she invited the younger one to try to set us up.(I was naive to this at the time, thinking it was a simple friends outing) towards the end of the night the olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:15 PM
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Using the RP theory to make a prediction; Because he is not alpha enough to command it, or at least voice his opinion at the first instance; she has broken him down and is no longer attracted to him because she can sense his beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 02:00 PM
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I think intelligent men like breasts and vagina, and intelligent women still like tall strong men.......like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 12:36 AM
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So you think a man with a higher IQ has a greater chance of not having sexual tension with an attractive friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 02:08 PM
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Patrice and Dante were the founders of RedPill but not many people remember their logic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 06:29 PM
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how many vaginas have you eaten to the point of orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 10:39 PM
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So you reccomend more men have sex with multiple women so they can hone their skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 10:25 PM
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without having sex with multiple partners, how does one expect to master these things? Not everyone has as much game as you.........
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 10:19 PM
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tl;dr Girls want a wide range of things, what is "good sex" to one may not be good for another. It takes a lot of knowledge and work to be universally "good at sex" For a guy to be universally "good at sex" there is a lot that goes into that. Firstly girls want a range of different things mentally. Some love tease play, some love straight to the point dominance, some want more sensual tantric sex, some want to be roughed up and pounded. So step one is being able to identify that and being good i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:53 PM
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If you get the whole "evopsych" aspect, you already fully understand the answer...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:44 PM
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Ok....Back to my original point, any knowledgable RP man can identify the appeal of the fantasy....We have been seeing it for all our concious lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 01:20 PM
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I fully understand. The main appeal to women was his commitment yadda yadda. My comment is that RP knows that, and IRL without some of his status, commitment means nothing to real women. It all depends on who is giving it, not the actual act.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:42 PM
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It's a cute fantasy. Like I said before, RP deals in the real world, and any knowledgable RPer knows this was not about the bondage. Since most "balanced women" to use your words, don't try to change men then this fantasy has little to do with real life right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:08 PM
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So again, is it RP 101 that a woman would prefer a man with status give it all up thanks to the power of her love and her being right about where there relationship should go? Did he give up his status? Or did he just stop doing the things that annoyed her? Rp does not reccomend giving up status, but again we know it was never about the bondage. Does it advise men to settle down before 30 and cave on issues like pregnancy, and whether or not his wife takes his name? I'm not aware of anywhere on …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:11 PM
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I responded to this comment: "It's RP 101 that 50SOG isn't actually about bondage, it's about women wanting and getting commitment?" Yes it is RP 101. Our only disagreement seems to be that you put little value on his status, which is fair in a "fantasy" setting. RP deals with reality where status comes into play to a large degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:34 PM
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It seems as though she loves him despite being high value, not because of it. Fair enough. The book is fiction after all...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:54 PM
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Is the fantasy changing any man, or more specifically a high SMV man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:40 PM
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In many other discussions women say they don't want to change a man. So the question is; is the fantasy changing any man into her perfect man? Or do you think that our theory has some basis, that the fantasy is changing the type of guy who has many options into wanting only her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:11 PM
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We did start to stray, and its probably my fault. First let me go back to my original point saying that most RP men would know the bondage is not the fantasy. So changing a man is a fantasy a lot of women have? Do you specifically think its from something specific, or changing a man from anything into her perfect person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:51 PM
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I think that the bad boy, billionaire aspect is the meat of the fantasy. Lets do a hypothetical thought experiment. Two dating profiles on two different sites, same picture, same age 35. One is an entrepreneur millionaire in the adult film industry, (nuff said) one is a widower who was married for 5 years, and then single for 5 years because of his wifes memory. It was her dream to go to Israel to help people in poverty, he was sort of shy but loved her so much and believed in her so he fully su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:00 PM
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So you missed my point. Let me phrase it this way: You are saying the fantasy is the loyalty and not the status. (or bondage which I agree with that part) I am saying the fantasy is getting loyalty from that specific source. I believe this because loyalty is available to women from men readily. They just want it from specific sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:30 PM
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I feel if one's life is truly awesome, it would not matter what people say and you would not even waste breath trying to defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:55 PM
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I get your point. My point is, do you think this book would have captivated the minds of millions of women if it was an unattractive shy guy from walmart who has oneitis, tells her the feelings, is genuinely loyal, gets married and has a kid before 30? They would puke.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:42 PM
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Men do have to control our sexual urges every day, and no one talks about how a female should control her lust for attention. Secondly you have not thought your ideal world through. Women do not approach men on average. In your world where men leave women alone, you all will approach the hot guys and 1 guy will have 35 different baby momma's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:21 PM
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Chad is a vague term used by incels and RP alike. The Chad qualifiers in this discussion are the looks, wealth, and status. IRL that is enough to bring in girls from all backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:13 PM
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Anyone with knowledge of the RP sidebar can identify what the women were really fantasizing about. The looks, wealth and status......
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:09 PM
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I think that says exactly what RP has been saying since day 1. Women want an alpha guy who is tall and good looking with a lot of resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:07 PM
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Women are not more passive than men when it comes to protecting children. Yes, but I was talking about protecting yourselves...Search your instincts, do you want to fight a bear with your girlfriends, or would you rather Jason Mamoa do it for you? In my instinct I would rather fight the bear than have a girl do it for me, (partially because you are attracted to that) and feel tough with my boys afterwards, because thats what we evolved to do. You would probably view that as toxic masculinity or …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 01:02 PM
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men seem to think women are passive. They aren't. They've had to defend children forever. Women are passive compared to men. I am speculating, but I would not be surprised if the men invented the spears, invented the structures, and empowered the women and taught them how to use those spears while they are gone. I was watching a video of a french explorer meeting this tribe in new guinea for the first time. Their women were more hardy than me living in the jungle, but compared to the men they ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 03:54 PM
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What? How do you think women survived while the men were away for days hunting? They protected not only themselves but the old and the children from wild animals. If it was only women, the world of humans wouldn't have been so aggressive. Humans without men would have survived just fine. I never said women did not defend. But if your female ancestors were anything like you today, if you had the ability to fight off a mountain lion 1v1(and had to), then you would not want to take care of a weaker…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 11:47 AM
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Not really no. What helped our specie thrive was cooperation more than ever, so, high betas. Exaxtly cooperation. Men took care of the violence in nature to provide food and women tended to the tenderness of our young. It doesn't make you beta doing what you need to do to survive, especially when that means hunting and defending. Feral alpha men cooperating and defending the group? not really no. Alpha men don't cooperate in our society? Just because they are alpha does not mean they are larger …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 11:41 AM
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Lol referring to a woman that’s clearly laying out her points and arguments as “upset” and “angry” is an old shameful tactic to try and disregard what she’s saying. Sorry, won’t work here. I was not disregarding you, I was trying to keep it civil. When people come across as impatient in a discussion it becomes more difficult to not become impatient yourself. Those ideas did exist here and there but RP is not only the first place I found them all in one place, it is the first place that broke it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 11:30 AM
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To be fair to women though, 20,000 years ago what we consider "bad" for a guy now was good in ways and probably helped our species thrive. When a mointain Lion could come in the night and snatch your baby, Women needed aggressive killer men. I like to use the example of the Dothraki leader in game of thrones. If it was only women, we likely would not have survived on violent earth. I think this is why many women have fantasies of being dominated, because back then they were probably being taken …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 01:16 PM
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Yeah they don't but they're still people in society and you're gonna run into people with those mindsets. Fair enough, but I think its in the lower percentile. There are tens of millions of conservative men, and only numbers in the thousands subscribe to red pill. My point is while it is not right to downplay anyones words without giving them a fair say in the argument and evaluate what they are saying; But being honest, women in general seem to be more emotional than we are and there is nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:16 PM
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It's happened to me on this sub where I'm having a passionate debate and I'm shut down with "emotions" as the excuse of being shut down. It's not an hypothesis. It's lived experience. People on here don't represent society as a whole. I'm sure you know from experience women can be emotionally irrational. To be fair to you though, 80% of the discussions on here are emotional. I personally ended up here to rant and argue, and get little victories in argument that made me feel better about not bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 12:30 PM
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The presumption that you think men "respect" female emotion even if it's warranted is your biggest fallacy / mistake in all of this. How so? Is it your hypothesis that men don't respect female emotion in its entirety? I don't care how men treat other men or how women treat women. I'm talking specifically how men treat women. From what I have seen in my society (America) men treat women like the most precious thing alive next to children.... The fact that you assume that I'm talking about crying …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 06:27 PM
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I think you guys are comparing apples and oranges in a way, and not having confidence in your own feelings. 1- Lets use a crab fishing boat as an example. I feel like you are comparing a male captain slamming his hands down because the deckhands laziness almost caused a life, to a woman crewmember crying on the ship because her hands hurt. As men we would respect a female captain having an outburst because someone almost died, but not because her hands hurt.....We would say man the F up. 2- In a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 08:15 AM
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All I would say is that you formulated a good argument, but you seem very upset/angry/impatient or whatever, I guess that is the nature of these discussions. RP is the first place I have seen the combination of self help, what attracts women, what turns women off, how to keep a woman long term laid out honestly. Believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:48 AM
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Nothing in RP teaches about kindness or about being a genuine, honest person. RP does not say "don't be kind" . It simply implies "kindness is not a main attractor". I see your argument with being genuine and honesty, but I argue it does not say "be dishonest". It states what women covet and respond to, and it encourages men to be that. In your "genuine" world Should all men go around saying "I don't mind getting to know you but I am attracted to you and most things I do and say is done with a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 05:56 AM
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This is good advice. I don't see how this is really different than Red Pill Theory. Paragraph 1: Pure RP advice Paragraph 2: RP is ahead of this because many of the guys gave girls the opportunity to make an "informed decision" and she did not choose them over and over. Thus the advice given by RP to better yourself and improve game so that will happen less. Paragraph 3 : More pure RP advice but you added the word passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:27 PM
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I never said anything about opening up or not. That is the level you want to be at, but one must also keep in mind that it does not seem that a woman wants to feel sorry for her man often. At the end of the day all the work one puts in is for themselves. Because all women love high smv, so if this one decides to spaz, you can get another, which she knows, and it helps her not to spaz as often and for minor things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 11:54 AM
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I would argue a decent % of men are still not sensible post-children. But we are talking about women not caring about a man's paycheck. You don't really get that often in the 20's, and pre-children 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 11:48 AM
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A lot of women I have seen pre-marriage and pre-child, do not look at relationships sensibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 03:01 AM
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No. No woman will ever love me more than my mother so I'm not missing anything from her. My wife will be happier and more loving towards me now that I understand AWALT. I have to keep my SMV high.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 03:00 AM
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or shouldn't, if she's sensible You sound mature. But how sensible were you in your 20's?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:31 AM
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Women in my family accept the general differences between men and women. There is no competition where they have to prove they are as good as a man, each are respected for their strenghts. For instance, they don't mind having the guy drive. There is no challenge where they have to prove they can do it just as well. When it comes up who can drive better, we can joke freely, but they don't get offended or insecure when I say "pfff none of you girls can drive as skillfully as us". On the flip side,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:23 AM
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I respectfully disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 11:56 PM
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What does redpill discuss about women's nature that is inaccurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 02:16 AM
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Women still cheated/cheat in places and times where the punishment for adulterty is/was death. They always crave that alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:53 PM
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If Redpill is applied properly, a woman would not leave you for the way "RP thinks of them" You would be pointing out to her, how she is behaving when she is behaving those ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:50 PM
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I don't know what your point was. But I still think women are more emotional than men on a biological level, even though society plays a role in handicapping both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:46 PM
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I don't know too much about his personality, but not only does he have elite $, many women/girls found him physically attractive. He left a cute celebrity for another with no tears, he spit on a crowd of fans, got arrested for weed and street racing, he hung out with mayweather and curtis Jackson. Not sure he fits what we are talking about as overly emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:14 PM
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Prehistoric women surely had to be tougher than women today. But they were not as tough as their men on average, like today.... Don't underestimate your influence as women. If you started to actually want overly emotional men, you would see how quickly tough guys would be phased out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 07:24 PM
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I think that is 20% of it. I think you evolved to be attentive to the needs of human children. They are very fragile in a 100% nature setting. Men had to toughen up to conquer nature, women had to nurture and be paranoid of everything for the survival of young.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 06:51 PM
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I think rational is the wrong term. I would say women are more emotional than men, and I hypothesize this is at least 80% biological so they are patient with children. Don't forget the main reason why society tells men not to be too emotional is because women don't like overly emotional men........
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 04:08 PM
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Anyone smart would advocate self improvement. As far as I've seen, "Blue Pill" is a parody of Red Pill with no logic presented. Also, if many of those "bio-truths" seem to be generally true, I don't see the real value of BP. Maybe to fight with certain illogical posters on the subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 11:22 PM
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Are you saying self improvement is not mainstream Red Pill advice? From what I have seen in the BP sidebar, it is a parody of RP. RP sidebar has actual knowledge that I feel you are trying to hijack.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:37 AM
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That is fair. For simplicity I look at it as black and white. "Women don't want to be the dominant one in a relationship with a man". Some people like you are different from the norm, but even in your case, I hypothesize you don't want a submissive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:34 AM
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Would you say you want a man you can boss around all the time, and you are the leader and brave one when it comes to scary situations? Or would you say you want a manly leader in all other situations, and then he lets you take control in the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 12:04 PM
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If you are not high SMV, you will not be picking up attractive women into your 60's and 70's. Other than having that opportunity, I think raising a family and having a life partner who is fairly easy to get along with is one of the best most stable things you can do with the few decades we are given.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 11:57 AM
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The concept of developing skills that other people admire is Red Pill logic. Blue pill seemed to be a parody of Red pill when I initially looked at it, but now it seems you have cherry picked the PC aspects or RP and started calling it BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 11:53 AM
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I had a fwb relationship with a far more experienced woman. She was around +15 N count over me and 10 years older. I'd developed a deathgrip and did not orgasm for the first 3 times we had sex. After the 4th time she sat me down and was like whats going on? I said I'm fine and I am enjoying that she is having orgasms, she said that "she does not need to have orgasms every time" and that "she is not selfish and wants me to orgasm." I feel like if the sex was far below standard she would not say a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 11:38 PM
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A lot of women uphold certain standards of morality and faithfulness. I don't see many women running around riding the CC and having sex with Chads only. But at the same time, I will still live by AWALT, because I believe a Chad what she really wants, the same way I want a beautiful woman who is cool. Who knows what opportunities and circumstances may make her falter from her morality and faithfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 04:25 AM
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I think this is common sense. The wall hits everyone, but people with higher SMV are deemed attractive for longer in general. For instance; 40 year old Jennifer Aniston vs 18 year old Rosie O'Donnell?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 04:06 AM
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The ideal "Chad" is not an abusive, ugly, dumb loser. Maybe she is more open to abuse because she witnessed it growing up, but that guy does not represent a guy who has high SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 09:09 PM
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right but betas typically are passive and not the most violent in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 07:38 AM
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If this is for real, the Alpha men are the typically the more violent ones. So I don't think they would be mad with your desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 11:28 PM
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I would tell my daughter in 2018 there are no reasons she needs a man to survive. She can achieve the highest level of success on her own. But at the same time it seems that women really want that commitment, so this should be a q4w. Edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 05:03 PM
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Take a young Pauly D and young Pre-Microsoft Bill gates out 100 times and see who gets more women. We have not done that experiment, but many of us have seen a similar one play out time and time again. Also, do you think Gates would get more attention post billionaire?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:16 PM
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Women don't want overly emotional men. They are stuck in a place where most know for equality sake, you should not condemn a man for being emotional, but IMO their instinctive attraction is repulsed by emotional men. They just want us to eat our problems like a "real man".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 08:16 PM
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The first rule of red pill, is to not talk about red pill. Just do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 08:06 PM
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Red pill success story It must have been difficult at first especially making a change after all those years. How exactly did you approach it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 08:06 PM
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Removing oneitis is major. I am surprised she began wearing you down in just a year if you were that "alpha". To me it seems that is deeply rooted in their instinct. To keep trying to break you down to make sure you are worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:27 PM
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Shy was the angle I was looking at the word. Not how one recharges. If you had all those qualities long before red pill, what exactly did you learn from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:58 AM
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I don't know how he got over it originally. He still has bouts but it's not as bad. The whole point of my comment. "I'd bet he did things that RP recommends like improve his social circle, and finding hobbies that he enjoys" Yes I said that they are necessary to maintain attraction. Maintain and Get the initial attraction in the first place. "Good Beta" Traits do little to attract women especially when there is someone with "Good Alpha" traits around from my humble observations. "I separate all …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 06:52 PM
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He didn’t though. How would you say he made it out of his depression? I look at alpha/beta to define traits, not people. If him being introverted is a beta trait, so be it. Yes Introverted is a Beta Trait. People simplify, and generalize in these conversations. There is a spectrum of how attractive you are in general, each individual woman has her own threshold of how much she will dip into the Beta traits. But I would argue the Alpha traits are more important when talking of attraciton. Which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 06:14 PM
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Idk, all of it. He didn’t obtain more “alpha qualities,” he just wasn’t depressed anymore. I never said he obtained more "alpha" qualities. I said I'd bet you he did some things that red pill recommends. Like improve his social circle, find things he likes to do, etc... People have different ideas about the alpha/beta dichotomy but I’ve never heard anyone here classify simply being introverted as beta. In 2005, the book "the game" is what made the concept of alpha males in human men popular. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 05:43 PM
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I’m just correcting your hypothesis, because it doesn’t actually fit the red pill narrative. What about my hypothesis does not fit the "red pill narrative"? I am not sure what that means but that is irrelevant. don’t categorize extroverted or introverted as particularly alpha or beta. I do, and I think most other people do as well. There are a lot of opinions online, but introverted is close to the opposite of alpha. He lacked the more “beta” qualities that keep women wanting to be in a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 04:55 PM
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I have yet to see alpha and introverted be used to describe the same person. Those are two conflicting qualities. Part of the data I would need to make a more accurate predictions is info in you. Like where was your self esteem when you left him, and got back together. But you seemed to be getting annoyed by my questions and that was not my intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 04:16 PM
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He probably became more social and improved his social circle. He probably found things that he enjoyed doing. Not sure if he lifted, but that would have expedited his confidence building. Using the theory to make predictions, knowing as little about the situation that I do. I hypothesize it was a combination of confidence, and you seeing others were willing to date him that got you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:53 PM
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My bad if I missed u say that before. I hypothesize he did some things that red pill recommends. With guidance it may have taken him less than 3 years, but that sounds like a good amount of time to make some deep changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:42 PM
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You guys stayed close friends during those 3 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:37 PM
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20 is really young too. How did you know he was not depressed anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:31 PM
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did he change something about himself in those 3 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:29 PM
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He was lacking somewhere in the main 3; Confidence, looks, and Charm. Through observation, it seems that pre-wall women put value in those three things far more than cooking, cleaning, making sure she has space, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:25 PM
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Like many said, I would not try to save this. The real work is not letting it get there. But if one was trying, I think the only way to do it is to essentially "emotionally ghost" her. Stop giving all of that, let her know you are unhappy with how she is behaving, let her know she is not the end all be all in your life, and let her see there are other females willing to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:21 PM
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There is something in the military called "field mode". When the attractiveness of all the available women around you goes down, your standards do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 03:36 AM
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Better than before I realized those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:47 AM
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I try to see things in a nuanced way. But simplicity is effective in communication. Confidence, Charm, and good looks are most important when trying attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:44 AM
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I agree, RP is not absolute. But it is an effective general guideline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:31 AM
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So start admitting what you are really attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 01:40 AM
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I believe Confidence, Charm and good looks are 3 universal SMV traits, and they trump all others when discussing female attraction. Going back to the original question, I don't believe most women come into contact often with a guy who is a 10 in all of those categories, and your reaction may surprise you. Edit: or maybe it wont surprise you :p
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 01:33 AM
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No but there are traits that are universal; Confidence and Charm. We cannot pinpoint every situation because there is so much variation in humanity, but we are accurate in general. These subreddits have a nack for attracting unique people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 12:47 AM
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Thank you. This thing is like the 12 step addict process. Step 1 is admitting you have a problem. I still think there is a lot of truth in RP theory, although not absolute. Keep your eyes open you will see, but I think you already know. Also keep in mind much of the posts you see are from younger people and what its like for them. Thanks for the good convo and I look forward to talking in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 12:43 AM
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I don't believe the assertion is ridiculous. There are a lot of variants in humanity, it is not black and white. But as a guy trying to increase SMV, I am aiming more for the life of guy A. than guy B. Not personality, but how the system plays out, he has more universal SMV. RP logic. Edit: B. got you on a niche vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 12:33 AM
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Core RP theory says you felt like he was better than you, or to phrase it differently, you looked up to him in some ways. I am not set in my ways, but I've seen Red Pill theory be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 12:04 AM
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Not sure what this means. I did not follow his sport closely enough (skateboarding) to be aware of what a big deal he is (turns out very), but I'm sure there are plenty of women who would be interested in him for that alone. Exactly, he could not be intelligent and still get women because of his career, which is a decent sized slice in the SMV pie. Everyone on earth is better than me in some way. I am better than everyone else in some way In this case I am talking about perceived intelligence be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 11:34 PM
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For the athlete, he is in a much better place SMV wise than if he did not have his career. I am slightly skeptical about the second story only because I feel that there is slight exaggeration, but maybe you are highly intelligent as well and like most women, you want someone who is better than you. High intelligence has the potential to thrive so it makes sense why women would be attracted to that, especially the intelligent ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 11:24 PM
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yeah she was telling you how to find a woman to marry, not how to get casual sex. Mothers are never a reliable source for how to get laid. A mother does not see her job as helping her son become more alpha and nail 9s and 10s on Tinder. I would argue that she was trying to increase my attractiveness by increasing RMV yes, but I would also argue she does not know how to verbalize what attracts women in the first place. My mom joked with some friends a while ago like "let's get him a girlfriend id…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 09:12 PM
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Men who lack all four of those qualities? What would you say attracted you to them? Attraction is pretty logical, especially if you put it in the context of developing on the African plains 100,000ish years ago. It may be less valid today however. There is a natural reason men like big breasts, and why women like courageous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 08:53 PM
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Hi friend, I think we first spoke back in the day in the WGTOW sub. Honesty is the best policy. What I envision happening if women are honest and verbalize what they want, is that they will start to get burnt less often, and guys like me will know what to strive for without having to go to a place like TRP to actually learn what you want. One thing I forsee happening is that you will be more conscious of when you are being attracted to purely SMV. I see so many women try to make a relationship o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 08:47 PM
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When I was single and didn't think highly of marriage, I wanted a guy I was attracted to, who was spontaneous, fun and interesting, who liked the same things as me. When I was ready to settle down, I wanted to guy who was those things but also reliable, committed, stable, and would be a good father. I was never much into ONS but I did have a few and the guy being reliable, committed and stable were not considerations, trust me. This is the whole AF/Beta Bucks debate. I was raised by a single mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 08:30 PM
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What they mean is they don't like traditionalist relationships. Fair enough. I would argue they would rather be in a traditionalist relationship with a "Chad" (using that for simplicity sake) than be in a new age relationship with a guy with low self esteem, and poor social skills. Why you think this and being for women's rights are mutually exclusive, I don't know. They are not mutually exclusive. The point is that when the discussion of what attracts you arises, qualities like "Good listener, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 07:22 PM
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I don't know him, I've only seen his pictures. But using the Red Pill Theory to make predictions (like any good theory is able to do) I would bet my savings that he has the following qualities, (remember she left a extremely wealthy man for him): Confidence Leadership abilities (Alpha traits to be more vague) Has more than one woman eager to have sex with him Good looking. (3. and 4. are kind of cheating because these were already confirmed by multiple women)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 07:08 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and propose that you were never taught that standing up for women's rights would get you laid. You were told that standing up for women's rights was the right thing to do --- Yes, but in my generation we were taught "women like sensitive men". Which may be true, but it is not #1 on the list for most women in my experience. The reason I brought rights up, is because I've seen a lot of younger women bring up believing in women's rights early when talking about me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:53 PM
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RP does not say that...Immature kids may. Being rich helps SMV but it is not on top in terms of really making a woman fall for you, as evidenced by Jeremy Meeks (The incel Blackpill Guy). The woman was with a very wealthy man, but she left him for a criminal Jeremy Meeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:39 PM
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I apologize, I guess I just skimmed past that. Either way, the only way to pull that off believably if you were not born aggressive and bursting with testosterone, is to practice..... One can get better at negging and my life and many others is evidence of that. I am not a professional, but am no longer a rookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:32 PM
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I understand that. There is nuance, but there is also a base SMV that I believe is universal. For instance when I was younger and T.I. was hot, I was hanging out with two girl friends and we were watching MTV. One said OMG he is so hot I can barely even look at him, and one said WTF he looks like a rat. That is normal. But on the flip side, both would have dated T.I. in a split second before me because of the underlying base SMV. I don't think girls are honest about that in an open forum on a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:30 PM
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Anyone who says "No woman can like a short guy" Is out of their mind. Bruno Mars is 5'5, Tom Cruise is 5'7. What I am saying is that I believe just because you are a straight girl your opinion is not infinitely more valid because: It doesn't seem that many girls are honest with us about what really attracts them, and the actual order she lists those qualities. I'm not sure many women know what attracts them in depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:15 PM
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I read it again. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. I agree with the top half. I disagree that negging is ineffective (not being rude or nasty, but also not giving compliments all day and throwing in some well placed jokes/shade every now and again) Then I pointed out you posted you agree with 7 RP talking points and disagree with 2. What did I miss?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:09 PM
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So sometimes a straight woman's opinion is not infinitely more valid because they are no good themselves and simply spewing because they are frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:06 PM
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I don't think any woman has ever willingly, without any external pressures, been with a man that she has zero attraction to. Attractiveness does vary, but Confidence, Charm, and good looks seem to be pretty universal in attracting women. Which many of us were never taught. Growing up there was a campaign of "Women like sensitive men". I saw cartoons of this, flyers, etc. Now they are telling the young boys that women like men who stand up for women and women's rights. What they are not telling u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 06:02 PM
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I'm not sure what your definition of negging is, but it is one of the most effective things i've seen. It's up there with women seeing that other women are attracted to you as well. You just agreed with 7 RP topics and denounced 2. I'd say you are pro RP. The crazy posts you see are from younger men most of the time, who seem to be emotional/venting being burnt or rejected dozens of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 05:49 PM
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Nerdy guys with high SMV. Not shy, low self esteem, out of shape, video gamers. Those Nerds she is attracted to still likely have qualities talked about in RP. Like Charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 05:30 PM
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I think he is talking about high SMV in general. Money excites people/women, but it does not truly keep a woman. For you that may be (using imagination) the stout handsome man (8/10 looks) with a good career who makes the best bbq that everyone comes over for and loves, and he has that reputation. Then to use OP example, you saying him barely paying you any mind(RP principle)is a turnoff to you. Not in a rude way but in an "I got so much stuff to do as I engage those around me" I would argue tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 05:11 PM
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Keep in mind, individual posters do not always represent the logic. But what have you seen trp recommend that is unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 04:58 PM
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So to the women who say all guys are assholes, do you agree with them, or is their expertise in the field not as good as yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 04:53 PM
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I agree. Communication is killing RP to outsiders. Ideally it would only be men who need that type of help seeing it. Fighting through some type of resistance happens almost 100% of the time as girls (especially in highly populated areas) have to carry themselves in a way to avoid the hordes of willing sex partners, and keep a certain reputation. Sucks that it is so common but we cannot agree. Edit: word and sentence fixes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:39 PM
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You coulda just said this was a Q4w....... My bad I am eager to respond sometimes, did not read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 08:02 PM
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Women are the protector of the species. An average girl has multiple guys willing to have sex with her. Since she has the womb, she has to be selective to give her offspring the best chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 03:12 PM
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Evaluating why its hard to "get" some women is a main point of RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 03:07 PM
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He was good looking, so he didnt need much game to get a girl like that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 04:49 PM
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Haha, thats not the angle I am coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 12:59 PM
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Thats a main point of RP theory. Helping guys understand SMV so they don't blow it like this guy. Edit: and letting the average guy know he can do better than this guy did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 12:58 PM
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So initially you were physically attracted to him, but his personality subtracted from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 01:45 AM
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So would you say that initial attraction was based on a combination of personality and physical?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 01:39 AM
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Enthusiastic consent Consent is no longer valid apparently...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 01:36 AM
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Why do you think you felt he was so cute? Because of personality or physical attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 01:22 AM
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Nudity is more of a shock. Being scantily clad gets you less, but a similar type of attention. Do you think 5 50 year olds being naked or 5 young models being naked will garner more attention for the cause? Especially with males
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:15 PM
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For the same reasons being naked draws attention, I would argue being scantily clad draws attention. It can be even more appealing because bra's help your breasts look firmer and tight clothing anywhere has the same effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:04 PM
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By the same logic, why is it not accepted that dressing scantily will get you similar attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 10:55 AM
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Guys will go to great lengths to have sex with a girl. Not trying to blame the victim, but realistically speaking, being showered with gifts, getting attention and validation are not good indicators of a persons personality. Part of it is your screening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:40 PM
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Understanding and improving SMV is the main point of RP. Incel type mentality is something different entirely. To be fair though, to be average or below average with low self esteem can be a deep hole to climb out of in terms of becoming attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:32 PM
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I cannot prove this, but I think most of the posts that are like "fuck as many women all day every day" are younger kids. The logic behind the sidebar IMO is still strong despite that, and what RP is about. Evaluating why we fail and the patterns of female behavior, and clear preferences. Some people turned it into sounding cool and/or revenge, but that is not what the logic is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 05:11 PM
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Fair enough. Immigrant women could be more humble and just as/even more attractive :p
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 05:45 PM
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Try a non American man. Men and women in western culture are guilty for the state of relationships. No one is innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:18 PM
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Great question. I'd rather be seen as a combination of both. 1.) would be ideal in a perfect world, but I think women get bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 11:50 PM
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Personally I disagree with the last part. I think most women like a dominant man, and many like being taken charge of in the bedroom. My reasoning for this is similar to yours, but I don't think the time humans spent in england was as influencial to our bodies as the evolution of mammals and even the decades humans spent in the wild. I think women were being taken by the strongest men, and being shared. That is why they respond to being dominated and why they can have multiple orgasms over the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:50 PM
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From a female POV, I understand and sympathize with them that men lie to them to get into their pants. I know people who make up elaborate stories and even lie about employment to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 08:07 PM
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Try a non American girl. In many cultures kids stay with their parents until marriage to save money. Plus you have the dementia angle. A foreign girl from many places in asia for instance may relate to you more than the average american who leaves home early and does not have the best relationship with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:30 AM
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1) AWALT and its function : Obviously all women are not exactly the same. We have seen enough women display certain characteristics that will burn you if you are complacent, so its best to never get too comfortable and take your relationship for granted. 2) AF/BB : You want to have sex with the "bad boys" more than the "good boys" its pretty straight forward. Personally speaking when I was on OK cupid, 100% of the girls I saw who answered the question chose the bad boy option when asked if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 11:18 AM
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Nu_Guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:47 AM
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I would argue women are still trading sex for value in our culture. Whether or not arrainged marriages are better, that is a loaded question but; I think if we are talking about a LTR lasting(which IMO is against our nature) clearly the religious/arranged route is the most successful....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:46 PM
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it sounds like you fully support hypergamous marriage without regard to whether or not the woman is attracted to her future husband? I was dispelling the notion that all people in arranged marriages are miserable. I don't believe in "true love" and I have seen more chosen marriages fail, and end up in disgust towards the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:57 PM
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Absolutely 100%. Both families usually have the same priorities and both bride and groom benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 04:10 PM
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In our culture money is not the only value men bring to women as much because they can make it equally themselves. But I don't believe in "true love"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 04:08 PM
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Each situation will be different, but I have met couples where the wife does want to bang the guy when he is being a good dad, while her friends husbands are being immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 04:06 PM
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Part of my family is indian. Arranged marriages are more common in that culture. From my observations when the parents choose a guy they use logic and go for qualities that benefit a LTR, and by the time they have kids the wife values the husbands LTR value. When girls choose themselves, they go for Charisma, Charm, looks, alpha qualities, and often get burnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 11:36 AM
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If you take away the religion, in one generation, most alpha men will start having multiple sex partners, and the beta men would start to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 11:33 AM
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I think most men who are 40 that are with beautiful 20 year olds do pay up. I don't know of any 40 something year old men here who think you don't have to add value to her life. RP logic says money is not the only thing she values because you can give that to her and she may still not love you. Being a leader can be worth more than $.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:54 PM
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Right and that is my argument. I guess we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:56 PM
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Which one? We approached like 10 this far. lol This thread, whether or not women deserve a TRP post because they acted in "monstrous fashion". The answer is no, and TRP does not reccomend that either........
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:44 PM
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I think you are going off thread. But Im glad you see some logic in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:33 PM
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Most people who end up on RP are not/did not start as, high smv. What I see happening is a smaller % of guys are having multiple sex partners, as women ignore below average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 02:56 PM
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I would say they did not CC because of religion, but they have all the other traits we talk about, especially when dealing with men outside the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 02:49 PM
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Fair enough. Like I said, women don't deserve to be berated for mistakes, but we should not act like what RP says is 100% false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 02:19 PM
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I am not well versed on reddit lingo, If that was a snarky comment then have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 01:50 PM
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TRP has no logic of its own Re-read the sidebar. You may argue these ideas have been said before trp, but I have not seen them organized in the context of attracting women like the TRP sidebar. If someone is exposed to the WORST things women did, distilled from 260k men. That happens with all media in 2018....For instance my friends in other countries think living in the U.S. is like a wild west movie where we shoot eachother on sight. Even though that is an exaggeration on their part, it still …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 08:47 PM
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So your problem is with posters who say messed up things, and not the actual logic of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:23 PM
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"Core RP principles are not what you see in TRP's vents" This is different than saying "venting and berating is not a core RP principle". (which I said) There may be some truths in some of the vents, but the best leaders have more bearing and tact, which is a core TRP principle. "Be more of a leader than a follower" "TRP core principles were distilled from those rants and supported by some theories in psychology. In TRP vents we see some dreadful manifestations of TRP core principles." In TRP ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 06:29 PM
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What is your hypothesis otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:38 PM
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TRP posts much of the time are not the main TRP logic. It is ppl venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 10:25 AM
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The subreddit vs the sidebar (which is the actual logic) are two different things. A change in the type of generation and maybe more people there, does not make the logic false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:11 AM
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Your first mistake was not standing up for how you feel. Some of these things would have come out eventually and you would not have been this tied up. Its not easy but you have to be willing to take the loss. At this point standing up for yourself is the only thing possible that would make it work if it means that much to you. In my opinion you should work through it and not kick her out if you can see yourself marrying her besides this issue, bring her up to your level. But I think she at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:05 AM
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Emotionally venting, especially in an immature way is not a core RP principle. I think you are looking at the individual posters more than the actual logic. No woman I know deserves to be berated for mistakes in life, especially the way its done in a no filter, online anoymous setting. Like Billy Burr said, we are all eating a shit sandwich. But 100% of women I know display qualities that are spoken about in the sidebar of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 11:50 PM
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I have met women who have engaged in casual sex with no strings attached. But in my experience there is usually something more, like she is depressed, trying to get over someone, or trying to get back at someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 03:22 PM
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This really makes me wonder how you could be "friends" with a person who is treated as such. There are different tiers of friends. Some women I call friend are on a higher tier than some men I call friend. But they are women, most of the time I am attracted to them and I want to be intimate with them emotionally and sexually. So the dynamic of her being alone in my house is different and they know that, the feeling is usually mutual. For example, I've had "friends" in the past who would go to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 03:52 PM
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In those particular instances, you're missing out on true friendship. I am missing out because there is sexual tension between us? We have great relationships. Like I said, I respect them but honestly speaking, there is a different dynamic with my male friends. Yes, I've always been a tomboy/nonfeminine I'm not sure how? You are someone who identifies more with guys who feels the relationships with women are not the same. You even go a step further to outline that to them. Yes, because otherwise…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:10 PM
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That honestly makes me kinda sad for you. Not in a "that's pitiful" way, more like a "wow, you're missing out" Lol...What am I missing out on? You said you feel like a guy then you say you let women know you are not friends. It sounds like we are in the same boat. Those women would rather me just continue our current relationship rather than me say something so silly to them. As a guy you have to maintain a level of charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:42 AM
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Of course I compartmentalize my attraction day to day, everywhere, especially at work. I have women in my life that I call friend and they call me friend. I never tell them "because I am attracted to you, and the different dynamic we provide eachother, you are not like my male friends, so you are just a close acquaintance." But for the sake of duscussion, if I am being honest, they are not like my male friends. This is a good example because I dont have to compartmentalize anything when around m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 10:52 AM
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(Sorry for the essay) Ah, see, we don't do that because of the whole LTR/marriage/being gay thing they all have going on. People cheat and/or catch feelings for others while they are in a LTR/marriage all the time. Being gay is a little more safe, but I am still not 100% sold that every man who says he is gay will not under any circumstances be attracted to a woman. It's been over a decade since I had a male friend who was single and not seeing anyone (male or female) at all. The last time I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:44 PM
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I'm not really sure it does effect anything though. I don't treat my male friends any differently than I do my female friends (when I have had to in the past, I don't currently). For me, if I have sexual tension with a woman there is no way I can interact with them as much as I do with my male friends without flirting with them, being coy, etc... Definitely not. I have close acquaintances, but they are co-workers or maybe neighbors. People who I say hi to when we pass on the sidewalk, who I'll s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 09:44 PM
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Yeah, there's sexual tension but it's not overwhelming. Exactly. There is no sexual tension between straight guys who are friends. That sexual tension alone changes the dynamic. We may also be thinking of friends in a different context. I would say the way you are referencing it, in my mind, equates to "Close acquaintances" I can text my male friend innocently for 7 days straight all day without anyone batting an eye. But if there was sexual tension between us, is it truly the same as if there w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:17 PM
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I have never had influence on women in my lifetime so idk what that feels like. My frustration stems from not being told what really attracts women since it does not come to me naturally. "Be a gentleman" and that type of thing is what I was taught to be the most attractive. It also seems women rarely know or admit what attracts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:10 PM
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Some of what you see on the TRP sub is ranting and emotional venting. Any logical person can look at your 3 examples and see how it could have been the man's fault also. I think looking at it from a TRP mindset is that women seem to choose guys who are more prone to that stuff, over say the nerdy guy who idolizes them and has less of a chance to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:58 PM
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"Like" in a possible romantic sense. For instance multiple times I have seen girls breakup and get with a "friend" as the rebound guy. Was there no attraction there before the breakup? Thats between them and God i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:24 PM
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They're more articulate than I am on this matter (and more caffeinated, at this point in the day) - trust me, many established TRPers fight tooth and nail with them, but the girls are right I am not the most articulate either so I guess we are even here. What exactly are they right about? You proposed no argument to TRP. But you keep saying "hotness." No, looks are a threshold, and you don't need to be hot. In fact, hotness can't override sperginess, or other mental defects. Again, Hotness to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 02:43 PM
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The biggest issue that TRP overlooks is the fundamental turn on that women find by being the object of desire. TRP does not miss that at all TRP knows that. You just said women only want to be an object of desire to the men they find attractive, and are disgusted when ugly men desire them.......Which is widely known....So This is false TRP has a very bad habit of projecting male proactive sexuality and turn ons onto women. Look at the emphasis on hotness in your own reply - looks, to women, are …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 02:24 PM
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Thanks for your response. I was in the process of responding to each paragraph on its own then I sat back and read the entire thing. Here are my observations: TRP is not Incel. There may be some Incels on the TRP sub, but TRP teaches you can improve your chances by self betterment while Incels preach if you are below a certain attractiveness you have no chance, "It's over". Nothing that you said here contradicts in any way what TRP says... You even go a step farther to give steam to the Incel na…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 02:01 PM
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The dynamic is different and attraction comes to play. One or both people can pretend it does not exist but it usually does. I have never had a female friend who i interact with as much as my male friends who did not like me or I did not like her. Do you have male friends that you shoot the shit with like two guys would who you don't like a bit, or can guarantee they don't like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 01:46 PM
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I'd love to hear how women experience attraction. I can't say I've read much content on that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 11:49 PM
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They are flipping terrible at understand the psychology of women, our lived experiences, and the "why" of how our attraction works. Lived experiences are lived experiences fair enough. But I'd like you to give a quick synopsis if you can as to why or how your attraction works. Just guessing but I'd argue TRP has put more thought into it and likely knows better than you.(on a societal level) But for a BPD girl? It works like a charm. I said this before but the TRP subreddit is not geared towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 11:04 PM
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I agree with most of what you said. I think we have the money to promote our superstars in "the west" so we see the most beautiful of our women worldwide, compared to other races. I prefer mixed women like Brazilians. That being said, I don't believe you know more about female attraction than TRP because you are a girl, and I'm curious to hear what would you say attracts women that TRP does not know and duscuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 10:25 PM
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His friend has done that, but even though he's had success, he started at the same place. Right, so do you see the power of game? I agree he had it harder especially being from Iran, living in the south, post 9/11. To your previous statement that you are a girl so you understand female attraction more than all of TRP; have you ever brought up race when asked about female attraction? I know this, but women rarely say that in the open. The TRP saying "don't listen to what women say, but watch what…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:38 PM
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I would argue men and women cannot be friends in the same way that men and men are... Especially if it is 2 attractive people with options like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:13 PM
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I would argue men and women can be friends, but not in the exact same way two men are friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:12 PM
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I think if you perceive them to be that much better, I'd say how do you know your perceptions are accurate, and ask you if you are already happy, how much happier do you think it will make you and is it worth the pain you will bring upon the other. But since they are still only dating, it is best to find that person first before you marry. I just want to make sure its not typical puppy love/pre 9 month infatuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 08:38 PM
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Mark this in your memory for the next time someone asks you what you want in a man. Make sure you bring up race early since in your opinion "that is his main problem"...... Depending on the white girl, you may not need as much game to get with her as an average white dude. I know what you are saying, but I guarantee you it is his game. Not only does his Iranian friend have success, he gets dates online dating with his entire bio there for them to read...The guy cannot close the deal when they me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 08:30 PM
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It is a factor, but that should give you some insight on female attraction. It is more shallow than many give it credit for. It is not his main problem because his Iranian friend who has game has success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 08:19 PM
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Some shy guys do some dont. I was one who luckily did. I could have easily been a 40 year old virgin since girls don't approach regular guys for sex. I have a friend who is from Iran living in a place that is 75% white and southern. He is extremely shy and soft spoken and was probably picked on. He is around 36 now and is finally settling into his personality, making jokes and stuff. Girls aren't like guys as we would take a woman like that and help her out of it. You want a guy who is already w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:42 PM
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What if he was religious so he was waiting for the right person, but he was shy so he was not good at approaching. Would that disgust you, and couls you ever see yourself with him if he was average looking, but a good guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:32 PM
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There is no such thing as a soulmate. All relationships take patience and work. IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:18 PM
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Women who don't ride the CC are not automatically Tradcons. I would prefer a Tradcon over a CC rider personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:17 PM
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It is. I don't think you are a normal human anymore when you do stuff like that. He needed the attention, maybe even help
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 11:08 PM
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Right, but if you are using IQ as your baseline, he was not "low intelligence". Another is Jeffrey Dahmer with a 145 IQ. Impulsive, but not low intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 11:04 PM
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We cannot even say 100% of low intelligence people have low impulse control. Is IQ testing the only qualifier you are using? If so, in your thought experiment 100% of people below what IQ score have low impulse control?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 08:01 PM
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That is fair. I disagree though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:23 PM
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Understood. I personally don't believe low impulse control is a sign of low intelligence. I think it can be but its not a 100% accurate gauge
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:22 PM
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By what standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:14 PM
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poor impulse control is a sign of low intelligence I didn't think you meant poor impulse control was decided by not pulling out. I figured penetrating an intern with a cigar tube in the oval office fell under that category. 2 more for you, Matt Lauer and, Nasser were low intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:56 PM
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Bill Clinton was low intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:48 PM
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BTK killer was low intelligence? Mel Gibson told his wife he hopes she gets raped by a pack of N*****s in a fit of rage, was he low intelligence as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:19 PM
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Making decisions does not mean micromanaging. But the boss does make the big and important decisions for company, just like the leader would do for the family. Is it not? There’s no reason why his opinions and wants are more important than hers for the big decisions that affect her life. Does the ‘leader’ make all or most of the decisions or not? Yes? Okay then. Making all or most of the decisions is micro managing, so agian, A good leader in a relationship does not make "all or most of the deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:58 PM
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The same reason women expect loyalty from men they are not married to...... Societal constructs IMo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:46 PM
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A distinction without a difference. How exactly does a captain “guide” the ship if he’s not making decisions. Makes no sense. How can you lead someone if you’re not making decisions? A good leader does not have to micro manage. Does your boss sit with you and dictate what you do every second? Abuse? Oh goodness. I have no idea how you would make that leap. Being sad about a situation does not translate to abuse. If they are "depressed and sad" from being led, why are they in that relationship in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:38 PM
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I would only say it was wrong if he preaches that women are shallow for doing the same thing. It would be hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:20 PM
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Does the ‘leader’ make all or most of the decisions or not? Yes? Okay then. The example given was captain and first mate...The captain guides the ship in the right direction and ensures its safety. He does not make all or most of the decisions for the first mate..... What I’ve seen is depression and sadness from women that felt like they were being led and their husbands and boyfriends were the ones making the decisions all or most of the time. There’s no biology that says that the man should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:37 PM
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What is something major about TRP that you think is based on nothing....I challenge you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 03:07 PM
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Your life experience must be limited then. Because even though women don’t want their man to be a sidekick, they also don’t want some “captain” leading and being the one that makes most or all of the decisions that also affect her life. Its not about making most of the decisions in life. It is about being a consistent confident presence. I have seen disgust out of women who have to lead their men, and happiness out of men who have to lead their women. There is Biology involved IMO, which we can …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:23 AM
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In my life experience, women prefer a man they are proud to call captain than a man who is their sidekick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 06:35 PM
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Once you figure out her psychological triggers the rest becomes easy. Easy if you know what you are doing. Hopefully this illustrates to OP that more men than just me have thought about how to please women. I don't know. If the average looking woman gives a man mind-blowing sex one day, then the hotter one gives mediocre the next day, he wants to call the first girl again. The point of the statement is that if you have a woman you value that you can call up tomorrow, it will be a lot easier to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:24 PM
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You will probably get varying answers, but to me it matters a lot. I had a short fwb relationship with a woman who was recently divorced and she did not want anything serious. I tried my best to please her and she gave me an A+. I felt like the shit, and I asked her where I ranked all time. She said "top 10 for sure", she said she had been with around 30 men. Even though that should have been a compliment, I was insecure about that.I asked her what I could have done to get into the top 3 and she…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:50 PM
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What is one thing you have in mind that hooks men that we are not aware about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 06:04 PM
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You are in the minority. I would say it is because men have to create opportunities far more often. So when we create one, we cherish it. The average woman has the opportunities come to her so she can sit back and sift through. If her opportunity goes away, she has backup or just sits and waits for the next one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:43 AM
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Sorry, I’m a bit confused by your reply. How is there any oxymoron in the fact that it’s common for sex to get better but less frequent as a relationship progresses? I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you were saying sex getting better over time was less frequent on a societal level. But you were saying sex gets better but less frequent on an individual relationship level. And my point was exactly the opposite - it’s common that sex gets better but less frequent with the length of a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 02:16 PM
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The idea of sex getting better with time (although less frequent) is a pretty common theme Do you see the oxymoron here? How can something less frequent be a common theme? is a pretty common theme when you get away from the various internet pills and the inherent bias against ordinary functional relationships This is the most "internet pill" sub that I interact in, mostly because I have seen many logical people post here, Including you... To use your words in my way, "It is less frequent that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 05:19 AM
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If you are not exaggerating for the sake of this discussion, then you have a valuable life experience to share and should create some sort of advice forum for couples who struggle with keeping the sex just as exciting, and couples who flirt around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:22 PM
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That is fair as well. Personally I don't think it is that serious. Metaphorically speaking, if sex is as exciting for you guys as it was in the first couple of months, and if the idea of sex with your SO is as exciting as the guy you flirt with at work, then you guys should write a book on how to keep things that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:25 AM
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I understand and thank you. I guess in a roundabout way I was trying to say; I don't think we should look at sex like that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 12:20 AM
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Women being essentially property was a societal construct, and still is in many parts of the world. Some people base their life on that principle and it is very important to them. Should we not bring attention to that, or accept it because it is important to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:22 PM
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Probably we were. But it’s kind of irrelevant. We aren’t cavemen, and society plays as much of a role in our sexual interactions as evolutionary biology. Fair enough. I agree with you. I will rephrase it and say "I don't think that is the way sex was supposed to be, I think what you are referring to is a societal construct".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 02:11 PM
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I think this is a female point of view/disney point of view, because sex was only supposed to be for procreation. Men's sperm have "fighters" that fight other men's sperm, and they say the shape of the head scoops other men's semen out. Those facts lead me to believe that sex was not special and they were essentially having giant orgies 50,000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:46 PM
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That’s interesting because I don’t consider it unethical as long as it’s consensual and doesn’t involve one party being taken advantage of. Still creepy though. If no one is being taken advantage of, then I have no problem. It is almost like this is a female defense mechanism to shame men for being attracted to women in their physical prime?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 12:26 PM
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Being with the average woman usually entails some sort of "emotional labor". Sure no one wants to put up with it, but men have to, to varying degrees, if they want vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:15 PM
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I understand the way people use the term. I think a better term for this convo would be unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:07 PM
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TRP is a theory. So it cannot sleep with women... If some posters hype their stories to sound cool on the subreddit, what can you do but call them out on it? I have seen more posts that sound like real dudes trying, than posts of people bragging that they constantly get 8's
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:59 PM
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Actually not being scared when you meet a grizzly would be a good advice. If it's a chance encounter and he's not hunting you, you can just walk away. If it's the wrong kind of encounter and he's attacking you, being scared won't help you much. You should follow the bear attack instructions. What you said here is fair because I did not give enough detail. If a hungry grizzly bear was sizing you up and proceeded to give chase to you, being scared is not only natural, but if you did not fear that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 08:22 PM
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The context for me, is that I think you have been lying and exaggerating so long that you believe the exaggerations. If I am wrong and you approached ugly men with no social skills, paid for them because you had money, took birth control for them just to make them happy since you don't like sex etc... If I am wrong and that is true, it is such a rare thing that it has no use for us in this discussion...Its like you saying don't be scared of a hungry wild grizzly bear because there is a minute ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 07:40 PM
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How valid do you think this is to the average persons life? Do you say this to boost your ego, or do you actually think the majority of women relate to your "story" and we should be omega males and wait for a woman to approach us???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 07:06 PM
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I would argue women want the companionship of men more or equal to, than men want it from them. Women use the vagina as a tool to get men into a LTR.(lifetime companionship)Most women know that if they were giving it out freely, most men would just bounce around from woman to woman, and you don't want that...You want more companionship than that. When men pay money, the end game in mind is usually, simply, vagina...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 06:27 PM
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My main objection is to the word creepy. It is pretty obvious and in the open what they are doing. No creeping involved
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 04:12 PM
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He didn’t manipulate me. If he didn't manipulate you, then where is the problem? I don’t understand what you mean. If a 60 year old woman tried to have sex with me I would laugh and decide whether or not I could get it up for her. I feel that even since my teenage years there is nothing a woman could do to manipulate me into sex other than threats or blackmail. What I was saying is that maybe women have some extra biological thing, or maybe it is the fear of being physically taken advantage of, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 09:56 PM
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I figured older men would be more mature and better in bed. I knew it was creepy at the time, which is why I only told my roommate about it. Was he the aggressor or were you? If you were I don't see how you could call it creepy for an older man to sleep with a younger, attractive, fully legal woman who wants to. I understand the sentiment, but I think creepy is not the right word. I think it may be a female reaction to your own attraction, and possibly how easy it is to manipulate it which makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 07:41 PM
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This is good information, Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 07:28 PM
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That is fair as well. I still don't see what is "Icky" to use your word, but I do understand the mental abuse angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 07:10 PM
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Sure, so they should say "I don't like relationships where one person holds absolute power over the other". Then a logical discussion can continue from there as to whether or not 1 person does have absolute power over the other, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 07:04 PM
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Even if she did, his emotional maturity would be a more direct issue in how they interact. You cannot absolutely gauge maturity based on age. Also, what if Ashton was ready to give more emotionally and actually spit some game to get her? What if Demi had been there done that with young attractive guys but Ashton gamed his way into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:59 PM
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Why would you have dated a 42 year old if you thought it was creepy? Or do you feel like they took advantage of you so much that you could not identify creepiness? What exactly did that person do to you that subtracted from your life that a 20 year old would not have?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:55 PM
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Right, Personally I am tired of people using the word creepy and feeling like just because they used that word, no other thought process is needed. To me it's mostly emotional and less logical
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:51 PM
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Is it the sex, or the taking advantage of that is creepy to you? If it is the taking advantage of, then I can't see how you won't say military recruiting across the world is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:09 PM
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Staying consistent, with your logic and use of the word, it is creepy for the military to recruit 17 year olds, and it is creepy for society and universities to encourage 18 year olds to get into 60k worth of debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:59 PM
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But I don't see how that is creepy. What if she ended up helping him make the mature choices in his career compared to a 20 yr old acctress who wanted to party and do drugs?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:50 PM
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What is creepy about dating a 20 year old? Lets say Ashton was 20 and demi was 36. I don't see how that makes her creepy. He is old enough to go to prison for life, and old enough to die in war.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:35 PM
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I think it is mostly women and effeminate men who would say Demi-Ashton was scandelous.... I think the word creepy is misused here. What is creepy about it, people like people in their 20's?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:09 PM
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Agreed. But they are hype masters chasing ratings. I could care less what they think or say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:05 PM
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I hypothesize it was mostly women and effeminate men on channels like E! who were saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:48 PM
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Fair enough. I heard about it also, but it was mostly regarding how great Ashton Kutcher was. You heard people call Demi Moore creepy for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:42 PM
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No one found it creepy when Ashton Kutcher dated Demi Moore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:39 PM
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i have been reading the manosphere for over 10 years 2 Things, you just switched from TRP to "manosphere" Is TRP the Manosphere? Also that is not a rebuttal to this simple statement, and logically I don't see an argument to it: "By that same logic, since the sidebar contains strategies for managing relationships, means TRP is not exclusively against them."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:05 PM
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that the sidebar contains strategies for managing relationships doesnt mean TRP endorses exclusivity By that same logic, since the sidebar contains strategies for managing relationships, means TRP is not exclusively against them. Again I think you spend most time reading individual comments and less time on the logic. It's like me saying feminism is about man hate because of what I see on the feminist sub, and a logical feminist says no, feminism is about equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:55 PM
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I think he is happy where he is at in life. I also think it helps his relationship that she knows he can pick up tens of thousands of women in NYC and across the world if he wanted, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:47 PM
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I'm not sure of the details of that story, but anything is possible like he is a slob, or it happened recently possibly even in DC, or it was done by an Orioles fan, right???? But aside from that, she will be free to leave. What she should not do though is complain that 65 year old DJ can get another 25 year old version of her, while 45 year old her will not be able to get a 25 year old Jeter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:41 PM
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i am familiar with the sidebar, thanks Right, so it is a false statement to say "TRP itself does not recommend exclusivity" I hope what I said was understandable about having options to help curb shit tests in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:34 PM
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Just as a side note, I just located a section of the redpill sidebar called "Relationships, The Redpill, and you" I think you have been focusing on angry posters instead of the actual theory, here is how the last paragraph reads: "my relationships have become something entirely different since i started taking the father figure approach. girls love it. they are willing to do anything and everything, and the general bullshit from girls is maybe 5% of what it used to be – before i figured this out…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:23 PM
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Can you show me a link to this? Also do you have any input on the other half if you read it? TLDR; spinning plates helps women bring logic to their shit tests so it does not get out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:14 PM
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When you say TRP what are you referring to? The sidebar, or the individual posters? Reason I ask is because I feel like most ppl recommending spinning plates forever are young, it is not practical to do that. That being said there is an underlying logic there. Women evolved to choose the best mate and she will constantly unconciously test you to make sure you are up to par. Her seeing that other women want you helps to keep her from being illogical with her shit testing, and it allows you to mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:33 PM
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Most women are not Hannah Jeter. You may not get a millionaire hall of famer, but it would be as if you worked in Mcdonalds and the guy made 6 figures. Edit: That is also why I said this is what RP looks like on the highest level. Does not matter if someone was there for Hannah Jeter her whole life who loves her and is her age. She got swept away by a rich good looking millionaire 20 years her senior. This IMO shows the truth of SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 11:19 AM
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Right. She chose the highest valued man available to her. Lets see if OP's interpretation of RP is true and she leaves him once he is 65. I think/hope if they have kids she has the discipline to settle down and accept the choice she made.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 11:13 AM
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Acting before you are exclusive, and having once you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 11:03 AM
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That is a generalization. It may be hard to understand, but part of "keeping one woman" is having other options
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:29 AM
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Google Derek Jeter (born 1974) and Hannah Jeter (born 1990). Not only was Derek able to pull in and marry one of the most beautiful women in the world who is almost 20 years his junior, he messed around in his youth with dozens of women as the hero of NY and I'm sure you never even knew that... That is what RP looks like at the highest level. If you have status and game you can pull off almost anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:27 AM
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I had a longer argument in my mind until I read the edit, here it is consolidated: Both parties do make sacrifices. To play devils advocate, being a stay at home mom is a huge sacrifice not only because of the kids, but essentially your financial future is riding upon the decisions of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:21 AM
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The way I see it, despite this article, women will still date the highest valued man available to her. IMO RP is less about what womens experiences are, and more about aiding you in being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 11:09 AM
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People on this sub give me shit for being a feminist because they don't understand what feminism is and they don't understand that it's not a disadvantage for men. Personally I would say the things I disagree with you on are: -I don't believe you know what attracts and keeps the average woman. -Your story is so far from the average woman's, most of the time I think you are exaggerating, and sometimes I feel you are making it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 09:22 PM
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I would not be mad at you if you crossed the street if you were alone in a dark place and a male figure was walking towards you. I would not only recommend it to my daughter, but I hope to make sure she has some self defense moves mastered to aid her if the guy follows her when she takes my advice and crosses.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:15 PM
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I think that most adults understand that AWALT is not absolute. But life is so short, and since no one has the capability to approach every woman to see who is different, it is better to treat the situation as AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:06 PM
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Really? NYC is a fashion capital of the world. I hypothesize you hang around mostly white people. We used to be fresh to death in NYC. If you have anything in mind, show me some fashion trend men in Europe do that is "great" compared to the average man in NYC
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 11:01 PM
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Good, that likely means they were responsible with protection. We need to spread that word more. But in my life experience, there are more cons than pros to being slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:55 PM
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Where are your slutty friends today?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:48 PM
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Guys don't match in NYC? Get haircuts weekly, sharp fades, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:36 PM
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Sorry if I missed something, but where is here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:13 PM
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I have lived in 2 countries, but Grew up in NYC and was around many cultures. I would say in some cultures, women are more vocal than the men, Compared to America where people are more vocal in general and a vocal man actually attracts women, especially white women. Some cultures like their men quiet and in the back like Denzel in American Gangster. But I have never come across a culture where women do not like "masculine" men. Qualities like taller, stronger, confident, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:04 PM
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Have you ever been to NYC?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 09:59 PM
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OP, based on your own personal life experience and observations, pretending that you did not read this study; What conclusion do you come to? Women are submissive to please men and they don't want sex, or women are submissive because it turns them on to be dominated?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 09:42 PM
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You can look good and still be incredibly low value. For a man especially, I agree. But if we are being fair, dude achieved success. What qualities would you add to Brad Pitt to make him a high value man? Since you imply he is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:05 AM
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But I don't think that falling in lust trumps the years of hard work one puts into a relationship. Not sure why you think I do? I meant in his life and career. I've tried acting and these high level actors are extremely talented. So I was saying if a young Rich Bradd Pitt is a high level man, I don't think falling in lust with Angelina Jolie instantly turns him into a low value man, whether or not he was having sex daily with his wife. But regardless of whether the cheating celebrity is male or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:58 PM
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Fair enough. What did you think about him during the filming of Mr. and Mrs. smith. Was he low value in that movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 11:25 AM
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Anything that you disagreed with really, but its ok I guess the convo is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:45 AM
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Worthless to you, but fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:38 AM
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If he took it beyond the roles they were playing as part of their job, and cheated even though he was getting consistent sex and intimacy at home? Yes, that would definitely be low quality. I am surprised you think this way since monogamy is a societal construct. Falling in lust trumps years of hard work and dedication? I disagree. Coming from a guys perspective, being the creature that we are, and having girls approach you constantly with the ability to choose from a large pool of high level wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:38 AM
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Maybe? Why, did he cheat on his wife? I don't really care about celebrity stuff... I'm not sure, but lets say it for the sake of this discussion it was because of the nature of his job. He had a role with one of the most beautiful women in the world in very raunchy scenes and maybe the lust itself was too much for him to fight. If that was the case, would you call him low quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:11 AM
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I have never met an ugly guy who married a hot woman who cheats on her because she is hot and it makes him uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:08 AM
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Do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:07 AM
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My bad homes. I got here from reading someone else's post. Didn't look at the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:05 AM
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It depends on the value system of the person asking the question. For instance Brad Pitt is still viewed as high value by many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:44 PM
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Is this a fictional character?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:43 PM
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Brad Pitt is low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:41 PM
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It was 5 days ago, and it started that you are leery of the word respect
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:29 PM
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Hey, did you ever respond to this? Just making sure the same thing didn't happen like last time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 05:49 PM
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Hypergamy is a natural byproduct of a physically weak intelligent creature(comparably in the case of humans) evolving on a violent planet. Hypergamy came long before civilization and is displayed in many more species than just humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:53 PM
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Okay. I am leery of using the term "respect" in this way because imo it's on a much different level, but will agree to it for the purpose of our conversation. I understand and am willing to remove the word respect and replace it with "Think they are awesome". But we agree on the main point. Eh, saying ee-walt instead of ay-walt isn't any different, nor is typing it. I suppose if you're going to say all the words allowed it'd make a slight difference since it has another syllable. I just prefer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 10:06 PM
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if I met someone who had successfully climbed Mount Everest, I'd think they were pretty darn awesome but I wouldn't have any respect for them because of it. Thinking they are awesome and respecting them serve the same function in this discussion. It is a better starting point if they feel that way if you are trying to attract them. I prefer using the term Enough. So NAWALT/NAMALT, but EMALT/EWALT. Fair enough and I agree. But 2 things. EMALT/EWALT does not flow off of the tongue as nicely, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 01:55 PM
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Really? It shows up fine for me... Even when I click the link now it says there is nothing there. But I see this so its all good. Unfortunately this does seem to often be the case. I don't see why, because being physically attractive is irrelevant to your ability to approach, but that's a whole other conversation. I agree. But I can see why. We respect people more who do the hard things. It is easy to not approach anyone. Think of our culture and how much automatic respect one would get if your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:46 PM
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Hey, I did not see it. When I click on that link it says there is nothing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 08:25 PM
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Hi Contra, don't mean to bother you, but I am genuinely curious what someone with your unique perspective has to say about the question below: Question for you though, is your boyfriend that you approached ugly? Women don't typically approach and when they do it is not typically ugly men. What is your advice for an ugly man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:50 PM
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Am I really supposed to believe that the things RPers post on TRP are not actual beliefs RPers have? If it's not in the sidebar it's not RPtm ? Sounds very No True Scotsman-like. I spent some time on RP today reading some of the posts. For every angry messed up statement you point out, I can point out a logical one. Then if I include the concept of the sidebar being the actual logic and not the individual posters, I think my argument is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 01:59 AM
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I think some of your confusion comes from reading individual posts, instead of reading the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 07:15 PM
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I agree. Part of being proactive in your attractiveness as a man is approaching women. Dumb, yeah. But principles are important. Out of curiosity, if you don't call out men for saying misogynistic things, do you call out women for saying misandric things? I don't think it is dumb at all. I think everyone has their own passions and if it is for the greater good, I am for it. It is not my passion to correct every time because I feel a lot of it is not coming from logic but emotion. I do not call o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:27 PM
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I don't care about it being "mean", I care about it being true. If someone wants to say many women are like that, or enough women are like that, I'll definitely agree with them. If someone wants to give the example of the loaded gun/poisoned candy jar where you decline a relationship with a woman because you can't be sure she's not like that, I'll agree with that too. Hell, I don't think that men should get married at all in the current social climate. But saying that literally all/100% of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:25 AM
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Fair enough. Would you be willing to share, and can you remember anything that you view as a TRP principle that is not based in logic and is 100% or mostly false?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:52 PM
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Right, but that is the case any time when you involve a bunch of human beings, and a bunch of data. Even Scientists cannot agree when they evaluate data, and there are wildly differing viewpoints until all the facts are discovered. Religious people cannot agree on what the bible says about many topics even when reading the same verses, you get the point. "Women will choose the highest value man available to her" is a pretty solid place to start your TRP foundation. What you do with that informat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:45 PM
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Good questions, The quote I gave was the synopsis. what is a "high value man" TLDR; Looks, Confidence, and Charm. The order is interchangeable, especially if the guys looks is under a 9. If it is above a 9, his looks are very important. Women like different things about men, for instance I know women who love my teeth. But I see a universal trend in what attracts women, and I would say #1 is high level looks, #2 is Confidence, #3 is charm. For instance even if the girl loves nice teeth, I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:08 PM
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I mean this is their stated reasoning, when asked why they resort to extreme positions on the sub. To draw new users into the anger phase to help "wake them up." Fair enough, I do not interact there much. I believe we should try our best to phrase our arguments in a way that the majority of people would understand. Though I do generally agree with the position. Sorry I am not sure what you are asking me here. Do I disagree with "Women will choose the highest value man available to her"? If so, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 07:38 PM
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I think there is such a broad spectrum on the subreddit, it is impossible to go through each poster and see why he posted that. A leader may do it for shock factor, but the average guy is likely saying it because of pain. Do you have an argument with the actual point, or only how some people decide to phrase it: "Women will choose the highest value man available to her"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 07:23 PM
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IMO Red Pill does teach that life is unfair. Calling women hypergamous sluts is a mean way to phrase it, and when it is phrased that way it's usually from years of being burnt, or for humor. (Just like some of the mean things women say about men) But you essentially agreed with the underlying point, while asking RP to also focus on other things in life like criminals/evildoers etc. RP is not a philosophy on criminals, it is a philosophy on the relationship with men and women. It essentially says…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:36 PM
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Speak for yourself. I know many men who are very bright. We simply evolved to spread seed and that is a major part of why you and I are here today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 03:50 PM
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I understand and kudos to you for sticking to it. You may not care, but men face hardships to fit into society as well. When it comes to women, some men face so much rejection they give up. In the same way, rejection toughens you up, but before that....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:45 AM
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You don't wear makeup yet do not have any problems finding partners. I don't see how you are damned at all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:21 AM
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so, are you gonna ignore the not-so-subtle media in all of its forms? This is a deep issue, and there are many factors involved. I try not to ignore anything but I stand by my statement: "You cannot blame men 100% anymore when you have the freedom to choose."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:41 AM
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before you accept it, you'd do things I listed and some more. Some people will have a harder time than others, but that's why I said eventually. doesnt change the fact it's men's doing; they just sit back and enjoy the cattiness. In America women are not forced to dress any certain way. You cannot blame men 100% anymore when you have the freedom to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:36 AM
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I disagree. If women collectively decided to not do those things, we'd eventually have no choice but to accept it. A lot of women say they do those things for themselves and competition with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:22 PM
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He is talking about social acceptability. I would compare telling a man to wear makeup to telling a girl not to shave her legs and armpits. Of course we can do it, but I don't feel it is accepted in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 10:25 PM
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Unless there’s another congregation I’m not seeing. Any logical person...Like me and I guess you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:52 AM
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It appears you’re very out of touch. Lol bro, you are going real hard. I grew up in NYC, had dozens of muslim friends, friends from all ethnicities, and I am mixed race myself... This will be the last time I break something down with you, I'm not sure if you are trolling. I see where you could have been confused about my example. Islam is the set of ideas (in place of RP). The loudest ones get heard the most(Angry TRP posters) Outside observers (you) listen to what the loudest ones say and think…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 12:38 AM
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It was always inside of us, society just made its own rules to make civilization work. Which was good in many ways, but incomplete.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:34 PM
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I understand where you are coming from. I do not agree with a lot of the things I see people post. It's kind of like the debate that Islam is violent, and people say it's not Islam itself that is violent. It is the way some people interpret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:40 PM
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Much of what you read on the TRP subreddit is people venting. Much of them are probably teenagers/very young adults. They are in an immature phase of life, and so are the women in their age group. High school/college girls can be brutal in their rejection and shaming of "lower quality" men, thus the anger, shame and venting. Grown women are a little more subtle and kind generally. I think men and women are reverting back to the way attraction and interactions with the other sex worked 50,000-100…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:39 PM
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I never said it was a new thought. I asked you if you knew of anywhere that included all of those things in a readable format like the RP sidebar? RP is open to interpretation just like everything else. Posters don't really represent the beliefs 100% accurately. Just as another RPer may disagree with my take on it. I stand by this 100%, RP is not "BS at it's core" which is how our conversation started......
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:22 PM
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Redpill is unique. At minimum it's not "BS at it's core" which is how our discussion started IMO it is different from the typical self help talking points by including talking points like accepting feminsim(at least in the sidebar) talking to multiple women so you don't smother one, etc. It differs from the typical PUA talking points because it includes talking points like accepting why you are not attractive, how to become more attractive, etc."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:37 PM
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I don't recall saying it quite like that, and I don't have the chance to read through all of it right now. Let me try to consolidate my main points in this discussion: Redpill is unique. At minimum it's not "BS at it's core" which is how our discussion started IMO it is different from the typical self help talking points by including talking points like accepting feminsim(at least in the sidebar) talking to multiple women so you don't smother one, etc. It differs from the typical PUA talking poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:26 PM
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Again....I never said "Red pill is about feminsim" I asked you where have you ever seen feminism addressed that way in the context of picking up women? The quote I sent you is from the introduction part to the sidebar...Not a random conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:48 PM
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Except we are not taking out the mentions of feminism. Self help avenues tell you ways to better yourself. Pick up artists give you tactics to pick up women. Red Pill tells you how to better yourself in the context of picking up women in 2018, since "being a provider" is not priority in this day and age as women have the freedom to be their own providers. I never said "Red pill is about feminsim" I asked you where have you ever seen feminism addressed that way in the context of picking up women?…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:22 PM
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Here is the quote again. The internet is large so maybe you have seen this elsewhere, but I have not often seen self betterment circles or how to attract women circles like PUA etc, address feminism in this way: "It's too easy to blame feminism for our troubles. Men, our happiness is our responsibility. Culture has always shifted, it's dynamic and fluid. It has never and will never stay still. Feminism was inevitable. Equal rights are something I strongly am in support of. For men and women. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:59 AM
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In the paragraph I sent, you'd see it encourage men not to view it as a bad thing, and in my own words, give men the knowledge and some tools to succeed in a new society where some view masculinity as toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 01:44 AM
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Both, it is about self improvement in the context of attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:49 PM
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How am I moving the goalpost when that is the point of the entire paragraph I sent to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:54 PM
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Show me another place where you have seen the concept in that paragraph broken down like that, before trp... Telling men that feminism was natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:12 PM
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Doesn’t matter who agrees and who doesn’t. The fact is that it’s what’s being perpetuated in TRP sub and therefore is associated with the ideology. You’re essentially just cherry picking the good parts and showing them off to say “this is it! This is what it is!” while willfully not acknowledging the overwhelming sourness. You are ignoring the fact that I agree with you. I do not spend time on TRP sub and rant with those guys, but the core principles I think are helpful. Here is my favorite snip…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:44 PM
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No bro, I learned a good lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:38 AM
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You have thought this through and have strong feelings. I support your decision to move forward the way you have chosen. No more debate from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:35 AM
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I live in a place without a university or much in the way of career opportunities unless you're willing to work in camp. As crazy as it may sound, every single friend that I grew up with (that I care to keep up with) has moved away. It does not sound crazy, I am familiar with small to mid size towns. You said you don't have friends because they take away from you, now you say you don't have friends because they moved away and you had no involvement....... If you're in a nursing home, chances are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:29 AM
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Nope, they moved away. All of your friends moved away..... I'll be dead before I get old. Also I've seen what nursing homes look like, at best most families might show up once a week, your friends are certainly not showing up to make sure you're all right. I have seen friends visit, and I would visit my friends. Little things, probably, no relationship is perfect. Big things, the only thing I did wrong was not dropping them faster. Right, because the way everyone else does relationships is the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:13 AM
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I see it, and that's why I said the one living founder does not agree with much of what he's seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:59 AM
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My anger is never uncontrollable. If you've made me angry, it's likely on purpose or because you just don't think about your actions. My response will be equal to whatever you've done and it will be justified. I got that when you said "Yup". Forget the anger part of it, do you think that it is possible that some of those lost relationships you had on your way to not wanting friends were your fault? Nah, no one will get close enough to be able to. Where will you be, on the street when you lose mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:57 AM
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There is no “most important quality” for women as a whole. To pretend that being honest and sensitive is all it takes is ridiculous, just like to pretend being alpha and dismissive is ridiculous. I never said there was a "most important quality". RP is not about pretending. It is about making yourself a better person. The red pill seems to preach what you’re saying, that certain traits are “beta” and certain traits are “alpha,” and the right combination is what you need to be irresistible as lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:50 AM
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Yup Have you never messed up a relationship, or all the messed up relationships in your life were because of other people? I would've told him to go fuck himself, and that he deserved it especially in his old age. That is how people will treat you, if you continue the cycle. I'm polite but don't volunteer any information (I don't even want to tell people my first name). There is no opportunity to get close to me. I would say that is bad interacting with people then. You call them "Normies" and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:38 AM
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When I'm angry, I say what I'm thinking and do what I think the other person absolutely deserves. Do you feel like everything you ever did when angry was justified? Nah, they just didn't want to look bad to the outside world. I understand this, I know people like that also. That's manipulation and allowing shitty behaviour to fly. That's like allowing a thief to steal from you and then inviting him in so you can give him something. Nope, as a man now I understand some of my fathers pain, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:28 AM
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The thread is anger. Anger is when you see what a person is really like, what they're really capable of, and what they're really thinking. The comparison is to illustrate that "oh, they didn't mean it" sounds nice in one situation, but in general it's really not. Have you ever been angry? Is your entire life defined by those moments? Maybe to show what you are capable of, but in context of your parents saying they would send you away, I think if they did not send you away that is not how they fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:14 AM
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That’s not a red pill principle. That’s just life. Red pill theory breaks down an aspect of life, just like all theories try to do. "Women like attractive men"; Personally speaking, I was taught and believed that qualities like Honesty, dependability, responsibility, the ability to listen, being sensitive, in touch with your emotions and able to express them, etc... were most important to women and the things that I should focus on. I never understood the disconnect until I "Took the Red Pill" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:01 AM
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A man gets angry and beats his wife, was he just in a "highly emotional state" and he "didn't mean it" or does he just want to use his fists to solve problems and when he gets angry is when he finally does it? This kind of strayed from forgiving your parents, to domestic abuse. If you feel what they did is unforgivable fair enough. I was not there. All I know is that I forgave and am better for it. Memories are long and they'll be old one day. Spankings made me a better person IMO, but there wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:47 AM
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I disagree. Anger is a highly emotional state and you are all hopped up on chemicals. You can say something you don't really mean. Spankings were acceptable in my culture, but we used to get man beatings sometimes. We used to have to get the belt at times, and one time my brother brought a cloth womans belt and got off easy. Looking back on it they probably thought it was funny haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:36 AM
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I think a lot of people see the venting and hatred, and miss the actual core principle. "Women Like attractive men."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:13 AM
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Was it in a fit of rage at something you did? Sometimes you gotta give people a pass for angry things said. I'm sure you've done it too. So you said you were unattractive and on top of that there was trouble in the home. Did they abuse you? ImnottryingtobeDr.Philbro
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:09 AM
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Why did they do that? Were they crazy? That type of thing was ongoing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:00 AM
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That is sad. I would say outside of romantic circumstances, in less than 10% of my relationships I feel that people are using me or I am giving more than I get back in an extremely uneven way. What about the people who raised you, who changed your diapers and shit and kept you alive. None of them give you anything genuine?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:51 AM
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The fact that you view all your interactions with people as a waste of time sucks IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:35 AM
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Sounds like your life sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:29 AM
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Like I said, fair enough. You chose the path of being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:22 AM
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Fair enough bud...I think you have been through a lot in life, and I won't try to discount your pain, I can feel it through your posts. Don't know, I'm not bothering either way I will leave you with this. If you feel you don't have anything good to give, you won't attract people with anything good to give. If you are comfortable where you are, then fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:17 AM
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but if her religious beliefs spoke of sodomy as a purely male-male activity, that could be why. Yeah that probably has a lot to do with it. Also certain churches preach a very vanilla version of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:09 AM
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Not right now, but I don't need them for anything either. It's always good to have other people in your life, even for the sake of our own mortality. If you don't have $ and no one who cares for you, the world will abandon you in your times of need. Especially as you get older. Not trying to preach to you, but real talk... Just because something's rare doesn't make it the rule Would you say you are one of the rare ones or one of the typical ones in this case? For example, if they respect you for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:59 AM
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I disagree that bisexual men or gay men are not masculine, however I realize this is probably not a typical view of sexuality. I agree. I thought this may have been your view and that is why I asked. It is not uncommon for men in prison to be sexual, and it is usually the most dominant who initiates it. I'm sure 50,000 years ago there was a lot less judgement on what we did. On the flip side, we are in a situation where many women at this point in their lives are convinced themselves that bisexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:37 AM
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I had a lot of friends, guess what, they come and go and regardless if you respect them or even help them or not, they won't help you back. There was no point in having them. So I guess no, you don't have many friends. I know the feeling of having people use you, or giving people something without getting anything in return. But you are wrong if you think no one can be a friend without solely taking and not giving anything back. If they respect you for something, and then that thing goes away, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:47 PM
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True. I've read that most women aren't fond of bisexual males, but men aren't usually turned off by bisexual females. It's one of those interesting double standards. I would say that is easy to explain. Generally women like masculinity. They typically don't want their man taking it in the butt from another male :P . Guys like girls in general, so the more the merrier. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:41 PM
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Why do you think the core of RP is BS?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:22 PM
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You said The Pills at their core are bullshit. My disagreement is that RP at the core is Bullshit. RP at the core is Truth IMO...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:23 PM
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Maybe you just didn't recognize what was happening, or are okay with other people using you as long as you get to think you get "respect." I'm not sure what you think I did not recognize, but you are coming off as having little friends. I am not going to fight you to try to prove to you anything. It may also be a cultural thing where in your culture everyone is so independent that no one looks out for each other. But what you are talking about is not a universal thing. If someone "respects" you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:21 PM
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Nah, I've had people who liked me abandon me and I've seen people who had a lot of respect and friends have people abandon them left and right when they needed them. Respect has nothing to do with it, just incentive to help. Fair enough. My life experience is different. The people who respect you are there for you, the people who don't abandon you. Maybe you are talking about outward "respect" kind of like people who smile in your face,but talk trash behind your back. But it sounds like we will …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:08 PM
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Right, but you also don't mind your boyfriend having sex with another man. So I would not say you are the typical girl :P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:58 PM
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Respect will not make people come to your aid. There are even closer friends who will not come to your aid if something happens. The "abandon you" thing is quite common regardless if you have respect or not. Someone is not your close friend if they abandon you when you need them. I have had people be there for me, and I guarantee respect is key. Someone who does not respect you is who abandons you, like someone who just liked you for your money. "Normal" aka normies are basically cancer that cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:39 PM
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If something bad happens to you, respect is the main quality that will make them come running to your rescue....If they only kept you around for money, then when something bad happens is when they will abandon you. That's the worst insult you can say to someone. How so, we can switch the word normal with productive, or positive and to mean it means the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:12 PM
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It does not sound happy to me. But as long as you are normal in society, that is all that really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:53 PM
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Fair enough bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:47 PM
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Did you mean to say dude? I am working towards happiness if that was the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:31 PM
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Ok forget the job portion of it, let me ask a different question. Are you as respected by people as you want to be? Working on that will help you in all aspects of your life as well and will also help you attract women.( I am using you as a proxy to speak to myself hahahha)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:28 PM
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Nope, but even if I was, I have no interest in being wanted for my job or my earning capacity. That's mine and for me, not hers. She can go get it herself is she wants it. I'm not saying to be wanted for your earning capacity. I am saying the same reasons you are not moving up in your job the way you want to is the same reason you are not attracting women you want to. (If there is room in your job to move up) Fixing these things in your life improves the overall quality, and then women come afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:15 PM
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If you do look at how they generally operate, they only get with guys who make as much or more money than them. Money is a big motivator. I'm not convinced that it is so they can use your money. I just think women want a guy who is better than them. Feminism means she can go make her own dream life. The president of my company is friends with my mother and now in her late 50's. She told my mom she regrets getting a divorce because she had another maturation period (Like we do when we compare our…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:09 PM
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I hear you. I don't think there are many women who go into a relationship thinking they want to milk you for your money. I think women are attracted to men who do cool things and make a lot of money for many reasons including being able to take care of a family, and giving her a dream life. I know for a fact people in relationships are not happy all the time and I am not trying to single shame you. It just hurts my soul when I see men who have given up completely and think there is nothing they …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:54 PM
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How much do you suffer being a lone bro? It bothers me a good amount and I would even say interacting honestly with people is what drew and keeps me interested in Reddit. Are you numb to being a lone now, and if you say you are, do you think partially you are lying to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:36 PM
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What do you mean by beta bucks? A woman will just be with you for the money and nothing else? Do you have any qualities that you think other people would like?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:27 PM
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I think anger in women is a very valid emotion, as men we just see it all the time and do not validate some of the things that you do as worthy of being angry. It is like the boy who cried wolf, Pulling randomly out of my head, I was there when a woman got upset at the wrong Christmas decorations being purchased, and I was also there when a woman got upset to the point of crying when the men beat the women in the cooking competition 3 years in a row.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:25 PM
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Women crave intimacy also, and in Monogamous 2018 most have accepted that they will not be/breed with a movie star. Come to the same realization(you will never be with a movie star), and also understand that who you are can invoke attraction in women who are not chasing after that type of guy. After that high tier of attractive men that automatically get women's interest, the rest of us fall into the same category, and who we are is the highest factor in attracting women. The founders of TRP wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:15 PM
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The "p The original question was silly, because there is no such thing as 100% RP or 100% BP since no one can define what either is....That's why I said the pills are "cute generalizations". The one living originator of RP says the way he see's most of the guys online "doing it" is wrong, and never even came up with the name or knew he was founding anything. I think it would be illogical to walk through life pretending that there are no generalizations that are valid. Men like big breasts was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:54 PM
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I did not say it was a catch all, we have to use generalizations in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:33 PM
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I think it is silly when someone says "100% of women do this or that". They are likely in a ranting phase and venting some frustration. On the flip side I don't see it being beneficial to tell a shy man for instance, "not 100% of women dislike shy men, so keep being you and you may or may not find that person one day". I think it is more beneficial to say "Man up, make yourself more attractive, and go find a girlfriend, because most women do not want a shy man"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:29 PM
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The "pills" are cute generalizations. Do you disagree that each gender has basic things that they are attracted to? I.E. big breasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:21 AM
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So is your solution to never be with a woman again?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:19 AM
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From what I have seen, blue pill is a parody of the logic in red pill. It is hard to distinguish absolutes in this day and age, but I can guarantee women like confident men....#RP
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:17 AM
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What do you think of the TRPers who say that the only "balanced" open relationship is one where the male can have other partners but the woman can't? I would not say that is balanced, but it makes the guy look like a pimp. They are looking at their women as possessions and letting their Ego get in the way. Luckily for us though it does not seem that most women want 100 dicks in them. lol because I won't lie I would be jealous if my girl was having sex with 10 men a week and I am getting like one…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:49 PM
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Things like the relationship being unbalanced, emotional abuse, people using each other, not giving the other people a fair set of rules, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 06:10 PM
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Interesting. How so? I can have sex every day if both needed. Up to twice a day for both for the foreseeable future, anymore than that we will have to compromise lol... Keeping the balance of making everyone feel appreciated is what I think is harder, which I think you guys achieved in part by detailing a schedule. I'd wanted it. Since my initial partner was my first, I assumed he'd be my only source of sexual experience until such a time as he decided to break up with me, which after 5 years of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 02:27 AM
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Right, We have all seen this play out as men. The guy I am talking about used to be a model. There is a different tier of attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:45 AM
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Hmmm, I'm a bit confused as to why you would equate keeping a balance in the amount of sex each partner gets as "revenge" I was not talking about balancing sex. I think balancing sex is easier compared to balancing both people's emotional needs. Especially women. Revenge is the concept of getting back at someone for something they did against you, do you agree? So why would there be a need for it in that situation? Revenge was not the right word. To rephrase the question, is having two male part…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:42 AM
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We make a lot of generalizations in these discussions, there is definitely a spectrum to most of these topics. Personality can make someone more attractive for both men and women. But let me tell you a story; One of the friends I was telling you about (the hotter one) is a really nice guy, but he does not have much "game". I almost want to say he is insecure. One day we were hanging out at a bar with another friend who is a people person and a girl approached my hot friend and started talking wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:29 PM
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Hi thanks for your response. It is only fair that both parties are allowed to get others in an open relationship. Would you have gotten another man because you wanted to? Or more of a trying to keep balance type of thing? Revenge to use a different word.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:19 PM
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I am not standing up for this guys argument per say, but I think the reason females say/think their attraction is that less visual is because you have higher standards for visual attractiveness than we do, and you don't encounter guys who max that out for you often. I have 2 friends who appear to be really good looking. To me they are not all that but you should see the reactions we get while walking down the street. It is like I don't even exist sometimes, and these girls don't know anything ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:03 PM
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Hi Contra, Don't mean to bother you, but this is genuinely a question that I am very curious about: "Do you feel you would have reacted the same if your partner asked to involve another woman in the bedroom instead of a man?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:07 PM
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I never said that. I said it takes more for the average guy to get noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:31 AM
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No I have not. I don't think it is fair if a woman says the same things that a man does and she gets a different reaction. But I also don't think it's fair to let women get away with it if she is being a bitch just because we are afraid to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 08:44 PM
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I swear I'm not kidding. I was just about to type again I have never heard anyone defend a man who abused a woman, but a while back, a female friend said to me "she may have deserved it" when I was trashing Chris Brown for beating Rihanna. I think both sides get the freedom of having a context to be angry if the context is just. I think what you are referring to here is something like a person being angry for not getting the right decorations on the Christmas tree, compared to a person being ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 06:35 PM
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Where have you ever heard anyone defending a man who abused his wife saying "He was angry because he lost his job". I have never heard that once in my life. On the flip side I have heard, "She cheated on him because he was not giving her what she needed"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:40 PM
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Yeah, I definitely think so. Most (obviously not all) women seem to be jealous of how their man spends his time. Not even just talking about co-workers or friends, I know guys who've had to get rid of their boats, motorcycles, videogames, guns, sports equipment, and other hobby stuff because "my wife says I spent too much time doing X instead of with her". Can you even imagine the average woman being okay with sharing her man sexually? Lol. Do you feel you would have reacted the same if your par…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:42 PM
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It's a good motto. Do you consider yourself a MGTOW? Not in the sense of the word that is used on reddit, like "I'm going to stay away from women". But I guess in the sense you used it like " I don't want my life to be dictated by anyone/society. I am not afraid of Seamus leaving me for Quentin, because then he'd be in the same problem as before...a bisexual getting only half his needs met. It'd be the same for Q, except worse. Although he's had a male sex partner prior to Seamus, I'm his first …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:36 PM
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I understand the context now. My motto is do what you need to be happy :) . Is there ever an element of jealousy? Like do you ever fear your mate will leave you for the other person, and how do you guys balance everyone needs being met?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 12:08 AM
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I thought by going your own way you meant staying single, my misunderstanding. So are you in a poly relationship with only women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 11:39 PM
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One where you find someone that can help you be better in the long run, and you can also help them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 04:34 PM
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Can I ask why you are going your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 02:15 PM
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You cant talk her ear off and voila! she's hooked. That sounds horrible. I never said talking her ear off was a good idea. I think the closest word to chemistry is vibes. "Vibes" is another vague term. True(st) attraction is purely biological. You should be a RP teacher. Typically women tell us that "being nice" matters in this game.... In my mind, if we follow your logic, 90% of women will be single mothers because you are mostly chasing the same 5% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 06:38 AM
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Thats why I said chemistry is a vague word. I am sure you know the connotation of the word chemistry I am talking about, and I understand and agree to an extent with yours. So are you saying the only true attraction is with pheromones?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:10 AM
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So what happens when people meet online and like eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:05 AM
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Thats why it says the term chemistry is vague. So you are using chemistry on a biological level. Most people use it on an emotional level. When most women say I had chemistry with this man, Generally I don't think she is referring to pheromones. Are you saying if she does not like uour pheromones there can be no chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:48 PM
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You can invoke chemistry. For instance I used to be very shy, during that time and still to a degree now I was not good with women. Come to find out, shyness can be attractive to some, but in general it is not. You have to at least speak to a girl. After that realization, and with years of practice, I can invoke "chemistry" far more consistently. Nothing else about me changed and it is not fake. I just put in work to not be so afraid of talking to people especially girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:35 PM
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It can to an extent. As a girl you can sit back and gauge how much "chemistry" you feel with this person and next them if they don't make you feel it because generally you are the approached. As the approacher, if you are not invoking "chemistry" constantly in women, you have you have to step back and evaluate why.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:30 PM
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Right....For the sake of this discussion, "chemistry" is a vague term also.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:26 PM
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And instead of vague terms like "click". RP goes into detail about what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:22 PM
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Reddit knows the topic of this post already also.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:20 PM
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I never said you have to be an asshole per say. But again "simply being nice does not attract women"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:17 PM
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because contrary to what our mothers told us, simply being nice does not attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:07 PM
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I think individual users exaggerate a lot and paint women in a negative light, moreso than RP. Right and that is the main tennant of RP. "Women like attractive men"......If you are having trouble attracting women, then you need to fix these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:06 PM
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I think a positive outlook on life is good. But RP is realistic about the dynamic between males and females in the open market.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:37 PM
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How would you describe being BP? I never really looked into it but just glancing it seems like it's more of a positive/hopeful outlook on life and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:27 PM
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It's not the only way as we can see, but it is probably the best :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:24 PM
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To be fair, This is the same for both genders. "Men need to accept that women decide what makes a man " high quality/value "
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:19 PM
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I would say I'm nothing. I just keep learning as I get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:16 PM
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??? Well, evry other post is about Laws of Power (how to manipulate), DT...I dont know if we are even talking about the same RP. You said you don't read RP so how can you make that judgement? If every other post is about that, what about the one's in between them? I think if you are bitter, you will take bitterness away from TRP. If you are looking to better yourself, you will take that away from it. It is open to interpretation like every other large collection of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:38 PM
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The internet is full of trolls and people taking out their anger on others. One thing I have noticed, just like everything in life, the good news is ignored and bad news spreads like fire. You rarely listen to guys like us who say "No we don't mind an average woman at all. Most of my emotional connections have been with average women"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:04 PM
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Bachelor taxes? You are talking about a specific culture. Where as parents arranging marriages spanned the entire world. Life today is great, but as far as relationships go it is harder in many ways. Especially since both genders seem to have extreme fantasies of the other gender. I never gave a %. No where in red pill does it say to emulate some sort of dark person. It saying don't be overbearing on one girl, don't be disrespected etc... does not mean "emulate a criminal"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:34 AM
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Good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:35 AM
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Really? Ever had redbull and vodka?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:28 AM
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Don't mean to play this term out....But I hypoyhesize that if you give that proposition anywhere in general your result will typically be "never". As long as you give the proposition discreetly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:22 AM
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Maybe you were completly sober, but was high on depression and lust...I feel you if thats it. Edit: Maybe I am projecting me, and its simply lust like you said lol.....You may have went below your typical standards but i bet the guys you chose weren't incels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 12:37 AM
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I understand. Job and family are not in this discussion, its looks and demeanor. How often when you give that proposition do guys refuse???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 12:14 AM
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The way you said that sounded like you were disgusted with the quote, or thought it was sad... I think it is fair, logical and true. I don't see a debate there. If you are unattractive, and do not have game, in 2018 you can be single for the rest of your life. So its not about faking. Its about doing the work to actually become attractive. Especially because many of the quities women look for are good for you in life. Stay healthy, progress in a career, don't be afraid to talk to people, if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 12:05 AM
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I dont read TRP, srsly, but this is..okay. What do you mean by "but this is...okay"? What exactly is it. evolutionary psychology is more relevant today than ever in the past century. In my own words; "Women are free to choose in 2018. In the year 1,000 many relationships were arranged by parents. Women have evolved to seek out certain qualities in men, just as men have evolved to seek out certain qualities in women. In 2018 women are acting on those evolved preferences possibly more than ever(de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:46 PM
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Also thanks for finally acknowledging that "Liking his looks" is part of it. So let's say you like his looks and demeanor, but he didn't like ice hockey or some other random thing you were into. Would that stop you? I would bet my right nut that it would not....Looks and demeanor is what matters.... Edit: Matters for a fwb relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:40 PM
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You are wrong about what TRP "preaches". Here is one of my favorite snippets from the Introduction part of the sidebar. The world is changing, but men are still part of it. We just need to make sure we're changing with it. It's too easy to blame feminism for our troubles. Men, our happiness is our responsibility. Culture has always shifted, it's dynamic and fluid. It has never and will never stay still. Feminism was inevitable. Equal rights are something I strongly am in support of. For men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:38 PM
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What I am asking you to do is evaluate why you feel that lust. I will bet my left nut they were either good looking or were everything that TRP encourages men to be...The real TRP...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:30 PM
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Eh, I keep away from any manosphere sites, unless I get this trollo-energy to..troll. Right, the founders never created the sites. They just spoke the logic and we watched them work magic. Others tried to write down what they were saying and you know how telephone goes. 7 years after his death we have people using it for anger, instead of self improvement. It could be, it could be they were betas who got very lucky that night.:) Possibly, but I stopped believing in miracles a long time ago....Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:25 PM
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I meant I have managed to talk to other redditor here (you) and not start a fight. We managed to keep it civil. Kudos! Yes we have spoken before civilly, Kudos to you as well. FYI "I have managed to talk to other redditor here(you) and not start a fight" Does not make sense as a sentence....How about you choose your words more carefully :P Yes, I get horny, and my Hitachi vibrator magic wand doesnt do the trick, then I go out to look for ONSs. I would bet A Kidney and a Lung that those guys you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:15 PM
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Huehue..hue. That means I've been dating casually since time immemorial. What does C.C. stand for? I really don't know but I guessed Chad's cock. I have no idea how you managed to form this assumption, given that we managed to text each other and not get into a fight. Dissapointing. No, I go after guys who make me lust after them. They are attractive to me. Subjective as it gets. Not sure who you are talking about that you did not get into a fight? Have you ever evaluated why you lusted after th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:51 PM
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I told you to choose your words more carfuly, smh. My fault if you did not understand, but you did not tell me anything of the sort before I sent you that message... Ok, this may shock some, but if a girl initiates first and he says yes. Like I do. Right Harps, I agree. Your flare says "Seasoned C.C. rider" what does that mean? Through a bit of thinking I am guessing in context of this discussion that boils down to you only approach hot guys or guys who have game. So I ask again, do you have any…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:38 PM
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Ok, there is no one right approach, i.e. not every girl will be up for casual sex, so you cant say "any". Especially if this girl wants LTR, waiting for marriage, or simply immune to PUA tactics. Or a closeted lesbian. When I said any, I meant any girl willing, not every. As a guy if you want a fwb relationship with any woman you either need to be hot or have game. I am guessing you are referring to PUA tactics as malicious, but I encourage you to evaluate why they work in the first place. Have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:28 PM
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haha don't be flattered. There was a deeper reason to my question. Would you consider someone going to the gym to increase their sex appeal to be "malicious manipulation"? Being hot or having game is the only way any girl will be willing to have sex with you in a fwb type of relationship. I was asking if you had a secondary miracle path?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:14 PM
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So what is the way to get you into a relationship HarpyMaster where I can just have sex with you and not give back any of the traditional boyfriend responsibilities? Edit: Or any girl for that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:03 PM
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Do you support WGTOW, in that sense of the meaning? Just to see if your logic is complete, how do you feel about men who don't want relationships with women but just want to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 06:37 PM
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Right, generally speaking, we are the approachers. There is a small % of men that the average woman would just give herself to. The rest of us without the height, body, face and aggression, need to figire out ways to be noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 10:29 PM
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Moral of the story is that most women have not sat down and spent hours working out the logic like we have. It is based more on emotion for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 10:11 PM
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That is a possibility as well, like I said it depends on the context. Example: Antagonist 1: "Lockeroom talk is evidence that men and women are different." Radfem 1: "Women talk about the same things that men do!" Antagonist 2: "Women are the same as men, They say offensive things as well." Radfem 2: "Not even close! Ever heard of lockeroom talk?? Men are pigs!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 10:10 PM
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The average woman does not need much strategy on how to get men. What you may need a strategy in is; how to encourage higher level men to aporoach you. Which you said you guys already discuss in the lockeroom...Makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 10:00 PM
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It probably depends on the group of girls you ask and the context of the question. If you ask a girl in this setting(PPD, etc.) she will mention all of the PC things to make guy lockeroom talk sound obscene. If you are asking a radfem in the context of men and women are different, she will probably insist that girls talk about sex and joke around as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 09:51 PM
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How Boring :p
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 09:48 PM
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I think women dislike a man with less spine than her. It is a spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 03:18 AM
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A simplified version of this is what I would tell my son. I would tell my daughter to not go to a man's house, especially if she is drinking and it is a random person if she is not ready/willing to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:40 PM
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Ask yourself this, if your goal is to be attractive and get laid, how useful would it be to tell that girl you had a hard time getting laid so you went on the internet to get advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:44 PM
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I am kinda lost in this convo, the thread was so long ago. Long story short, if my girl was building an emotional attraction and connection with someone, I would be upset. If she has sex with someone I would be slightly more upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:00 PM
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tl;dr sex is the final manifestation of that emotional attraction. Girls typically just don't pick sex partners at 100% random. Most American girls I know claim that they have full self control over their sexual urges. They claim that they only physically cheat when their SO is not giving them what they need. Typically by the time they physically cheat with someone the emotional buildup and emotional attraction to the person has already occured.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 12:35 PM
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In my own words; Stop rationalizing TRP to women. Be what you already know they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:42 AM
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I guess I am confused as your comment came off as trying to say that physical is worse (acting on it)which could only mean you considered attraction itself as emotional cheating IMO physical is worse. Is it not the same for you? Let me be clearer ,are you saying you wouldn't care that your girlfriend is in love with someone else as long as she does not tell him Not sure where you got this idea. My goal is to make my girl love me enough so she is content with her long term love decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:11 AM
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That is what I mean by acting on the attraction. Fantasizing, sharing intimate moments, confessing love, etc. I wasnt specifically talking about sex. I know my girl will be attracted to movie stars, but if she masturbates to them, writes them love letters, etc. that is when it will begin to bother me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 10:20 PM
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That is a great way of putting it. You are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:17 PM
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I agree with mostly everything you said. The main thing I disagree with is when you call TRP "vitriolic, grotesque and disgusting". I think what you are refereing to are individual posts and posters as they vent their sexual frustration, and not the actual philosophy itself. It would be like if I go into a room with feminists, and a story comes on tv about a woman cutting a man's dick off after he cheated on her, they all cheer, and I conclude feminism is about violence towards men. No, those gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:55 PM
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You just proved TRP to be true in one post. You used much of their terminology, and showcased why some of them are so salty, because what you outlined here is already happening. Maybe not the using kids as tool part as much(that does happen as well) But for sure the fuck alphas while dangling a carrot to the betas part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 11:50 AM
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I don't agree with the tone of the post, but what other aspects of the male present would make these things attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 05:25 PM
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Edit: tl;dr all guys want sex. If you empower the guys with the qualities you actually want, the bad ones will stop being glorified and fade away. I hear what you are saying and I see the logic behind that. I think you are wrong because you are discounting the power women have in 2018. Only a few % of men are that "dangerous". Us majority of nice guys would love to defend you from that crazy minority. But not only do you shame us for not being what you want when we try to approach you, you then …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:14 PM
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Growing up in the hood, and being around black women, the problem is exactly the same....You are attracted to bad boys. By being attracted to bad boys you encourage the rest of the community to strive to be one....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 11:17 AM
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Yes now women have a say in big pary because of feminism. What they do with the say is more of what I am talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 10:36 PM
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I did not reference feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 10:11 PM
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I don't agree with all of the things people say about society in a patriarchal sense, especially that society is purposely geared against women. What I will agree with is that many of the original rules and ideas we live by were created by men so our values dominate society. I have seen multiple benefits of women having more say in society(especially in the media) for instance the sudden caring about player concussions in sports. If it was up to men we would say grow balls and tough it out, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 04:41 PM
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We are all responsible for our own happiness. Women have the right to seek happiness as well, and don't dwell on their choices. Align myself with what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 04:47 PM
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I agree with you. I think the general theme that OP is getting at though, is that kindness is not as important as a "masculine man who is physically attractive" . Women generally would reproduce with a masculine man who is physically attractice over a kind man who is not those things. Many women say kindness is high on the list but it is far below other qualities. Was it your husbands kindness that encouraged you to take him home from a bar on night 1? I would bet a leg that it wasnt. It helped …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 06:52 PM
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Female logic= males don't need companionship like we do, that stuff scientists say about us evolving to be a social species is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:30 PM
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From personal experience, I was raised by a single mother and ended up a nice guy for the exact reasons you detailed. A mother will rarely tell her son to grab his girls hair while he fucks her, she will say things like make sure to buy flowers on random days to show affection and not just holidays.....lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 11:50 AM
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Pysically around 25, mentally around 65 when they realize they have been taking themselves too seriously and start sleeping around the retirement home
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:28 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 12:02 PM
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I think people who feel like RP is wrong read more of the comments and posts which are filled with emotion, than the sidebar which is the actual logic. We cherry pick based on our pre determined stances, Here is a snippet from the introduction of the sidebar that I cherry picked because i view TRP as good: "It's too easy to blame feminism for our troubles. Men, our happiness is our responsibility. Culture has always shifted, it's dynamic and fluid. It has never and will never stay still. Feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 11:53 AM
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No sarcasm at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:10 PM
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I am trying to think how I can share my story without it being an essay. I'm not sure I can do that, or if you would be interested in reading an essay lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:23 PM
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Hey i was drunk last night so my response did not come out the clearest. If your friends are bad with women IMO simply going to a dancing class wont change that. They will be bad with women in that dancing class, and need to reflect on why that is and try to change it. Here is a snippet from the Introduction on TRP sidebar. The key thing I took away is that I cannot change what women are attracted to, the same way they cant change me. So I have to evaluate why they are not attracted to me and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:02 PM
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Wow, I am glad to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:19 AM
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What tools? For a woman, a tool may be as simple as using the right foundation to match your skin. For an unattractive guy starting a dancing class, I would say a tool that he needs to have in his kit is an understanding of the importance of the ability to keep calm. If you are unattractive and uncomfortably nervous, women will feel uncomfortable. I was in that class. No one was considered creepy It is possible everyone in your class was there to learn how to dance, and no one was "ugly" We are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:03 AM
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I wish I knew. If you find something that works, please let me know so I can tell all my other guy friends. My go to suggestion is to join a swing dancing group because they tend to be female heavy, sensual in nature, and a close knit community with regular members that you can befriend as long as you go regularly. Most guys don't seem to like this idea enough to try it though, so I don't know how effective it would be. I don't like your ideas for 2 reasons. Firstly if he goes in there with no t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 12:10 AM
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I did not expect you to, I see how much you interact here and with other people far more often than with me. It is actually a beautiful metaphor about attracting a female. We are so used to her interacting with so many other peoole and if we are not one of the most interesting ones, she does not even remeber us because she is so busy with others :p .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:45 PM
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Excluding online dating, I think this is not so uncommon for passive, unattractive women. Most of the unattractive women can get male attention at least for sex, but they have to be somewhat aggressive Online dating is another avenue women can get attention that men cant. But excluding that, key word is unattractive, most women are attractive enough to be approached without being aggressive. I fully agree that an unattractive woman would have to be more aggressive. So let me ask you this, what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:27 PM
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I believe you. You have been through a lot. I would say you know how it feels to be the average guy and not be valued by the world. (except in your magical town where hot women date ugly men because they have no other option) I am always here if you need someone to talk to, and will always be lurking to see of you say anything crazy :p
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:57 PM
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I am still mid conversation with her, and I beleive her that she did not get much attention. But she is in the minority IMO. To only be approached twice in your life? Do you think that is mainstream?? All men say this about themselves. All men tell us this. I think you believe this about yourself, but you saying it means nothing to women. We have all dated guys who say this exact same thing, and they still leave us. I understand this, and there is no real way for you to know. I can give you 2 re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:26 PM
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I got you. On the flip side the % of women men deem unapproachable is way lower than the % of men women would approach. The average woman gets approached often. What is the point of the whole catcall initiative?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:42 PM
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How did you getting drunk make him ask you out? who approached who initially. great job. you are an anomoly. Most women get approached by more than 2 guys in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:40 PM
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she agreed with me....The only thing she didnt agree with was the standards part
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:35 PM
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Yes, an unattractive man who is rich can get higher quality mates than an unattractive woman who is rich. That is just the way it is. A girl who does not approach can get a man. A man who does not approach who is below an 8 cannot get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:29 PM
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Thank you for being fair. These topics are hard to discuss and often come with a lot of personal pain. So you cannot say you "never got attention" you accepted any guy who gave it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:25 PM
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Most guys get no attention. If you are an unattractive guy or even average you have to make things happen on your own. Which is why some say its harder for guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:00 PM
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I have heard places in canada have an abundance of beautiful women. So maybe you guys have a different life, but every place I have been to, men do the approaching and I have never heard an attractive woman say she gets no attention. Unattractive women get attention too but they do not qualify attention from unattractive dudes as possible relationship attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:54 PM
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I don't believe I contradicted myself, or am trying to make it personal. I did beat around the bush in an effort to be compassionate so i see where there could be confusion. Here it is bluntly and again I do wish to be your friend so I hope this does not affect that: I beleive you are an unattractive woman. You did receive attention from males because you dated, but you are saying you did not receive attention because the level of guy you wanted did not give you the attention, he went for "Becky…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:43 PM
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I never said it was easy. If you did not receive a lot of attention from men you were not a high value woman. It may be messed up, but we cannot change those bioligical drives. I would like a "high value guy" to mean a man who is loyal, caring, listens, willing to sacrifice etc. because then I would be swimming in prospects. Unfortunately, to use terms I saw from you, those guys are like the sports leaders or the drug dealers. That is not me, so my options are to either stay alone and bicker, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:14 PM
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No one is entitled to anything. Men typically do the approaching and you would have been approached by more high value men if you were a high value woman. Do not take this the wrong way, I think you are intelligent, I want to be your friend and I respect your opinions. But to me the only way any of your story makes sense is if you have an ugly face, or maybe you were not as sweet and loving as you are giving yourself credit for. (or maybe both) There are millions of men out here who want compani…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 06:45 PM
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Friendzone has a negative connotation because it was invented by men to explain what happens to us when we are too nice with a girl and do not make a move on her soon enough. We invented the term to explain something that frustrates us. You do not sound douchy. If you are the way you describe, you would have qualified as a high value woman and have gotten one of those guys. There is something you are not disclosing. My main point is to portray that you actually had options. As a man if you do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 06:15 PM
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No woman I know has been taught that friendzoning is horrible. If they have been taught that, none of them are abiding by those teachings. Since I have lived in the friendzone and millions of other men have. Whose sexual preferences society values more is highly debateable because if it was only mens, there would be a system set up where it was acceptable to have infinite sex, and marriage would not exist. I guess my corresponding belief is that high value males don't want me, I feel nothing whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 05:47 PM
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But I still feel bad getting friendzoned because the male imperative is what matters. You might not feel bad for women being used for sex. You said by you getting friendzoned the male imperative is what matters. I am asking how if the male imperative is to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:56 PM
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If you are not physically forced, then who you have sex with is up to you. I sympathize with women who are lied to, but I don't sympathize with women who use sex as a catch a man tool and the guy ghosts them after. I think your definition of friendzone differs from a males. Are you having sex with these guys? If not then how could you say you are fulfilling their wants instead of your own? When a guy talks about friendzone they mean the person gives you no intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:36 PM
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I don't see how being willing to be used for sex balances out with people finding you too unattractive to have sex with you. One is giving something up to get something, and one has nothing to give or get You said you see men getting friendzoned and think "lucky them". If that is true, then how could you still feel bad about being friendzoned? Saying "lucky them" implies you want to be friendzoned and therefore should not feel bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:18 PM
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A lot of unattractive men don't even have someone that would use them for sex. Men get used for their time and advice. To use a "manosphere" term, emotional tampon. There are also so many men willing to be an emotional tampon in hopes of getting laid that unattractive men often don't even get used for that. They get avoided all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:50 PM
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Neither is easy for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 08:06 PM
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She is just trying to tame a chad. These toxic masculinity rants are not for the average guy. To rebutt this maddness, look in your place of employment and tell me that masculine men with their heads geared for success are not on top........
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 04:32 PM
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Yeah, I was specifically adressing the women who say mens attraction is shallow and theirs is so much deeper. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:12 PM
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Thanks, I have been enjoying it thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 10:32 PM
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Lol this is some juvenile shit. #1 you are on a fake account, so you probably are too pussy to let your friends from other subs know who you really are. 2 I think I hit a nerve and you are insecure about your sexual frustration. Go sit down and jerk off bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:57 PM
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Thanks. So were you just wondering why we evolved to want to have sex on days besides ovulation? Also I think I have seen you say this before, but do you feel like many women who have sex while not ovulating do it to appease men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:20 PM
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I have, and am applying many of those principles to my life. It is a long term process, and one good thing I am doing is coming and dumping my insecurities here instead of on women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:02 PM
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What's even weirder is that hormonal contraceptives suppress ovulation so you don't get that one day of special sex lubricant and whatever other effects happening to prepare the body for sex, so we're just having non-natural sex all the time. Or maybe we evolved to be sexual deviants who get off on non-natural sex all the time as a co-effect of some other evolution feature. What I got from this paragraph is that sex when you are not ovulating is "non natural sex". Having sex on every/any other d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:57 PM
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Also, I would not label having sex every day as being "sexually deviant". From what I have seen from your posts, you are the deviant, thinking dildos are gross, thinking vaginal lubrication is a "gory detail" etc. I would like a response also to what you think about my idea of why we evolved this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:28 PM
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I've never heard anyone say all humans should be horny all the time. I hope you are not eating but that clear thick lube has been in my mouth on multiple occasions. I love it. I have seen charts on ovulation and most say 2-3 days. From my experience (didnt know it at the time) on those days when she is ovulating and it feels extra good for me, it feels extra good for her as well. To make a wild guess humans evolved this level of sexuality as a community activity to bring us together, and possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:57 PM
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Do you have any thoughts on my first paragraph? Essentially that we evolved to be extremely sexual compared to most other animals? Out women are in heat monthly. I don't think many other animals come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:52 PM
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