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What's an "Uma Thurman girl?" Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 05:15 PM
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Still...yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 03:32 PM
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Well, just remember what you're taking isn't the only med available, so - if you're otherwise fairly stable - don't be afraid to ask to try something else if you need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 03:32 PM
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You told her about the sexual side effects and she didn't address them? If I were you I'd probably look for a new doctor. Or go back and really emphasize to her how they're affecting your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 03:21 PM
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This post is so weird I'm having trouble gleaning the message and formulating a response. My mind got stuck on this: However if you weren’t little trustworthy kid you would already notice something is wrong – your dad is telling you how fat you and other women should be but in the meantime he gets hard every time he sees a slim fit girl. Hopefully, as an elementary-aged girl, I would have no idea what gives my father a hard on. I have to go throw up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 05:03 AM
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I'm a second-wave feminist. All this women=good/men=bad shit has gotten ridiculous. I don't want to be stepped on and limited, but I also don't want to be coddled and pandered to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:36 PM
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I don't want to give you specific medical advice, but sometimes they'll add an anti-anxiety med or something else to boost the effectiveness of the SSRI, allowing you to drop it to a lower dose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:44 PM
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Xem, talk to your doctor about this. Sometimes they can use a combination of drugs to minimize side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:30 PM
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It's not a fatal problem, as long as the guy knows how to use his mouth and hands. That said, I'd feel sad for him, which would take a lot of the fun out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:27 PM
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I had to Google "skolling" - yes. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:47 PM
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You can do it, dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:56 AM
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Do a search on You Tube - there are a lot of how-to vids. You can practice on fruit. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:30 AM
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Well, you're thinking about it from the perspective of having a 7 1/4" length, right? If the length is only 5 inches, then it would look more normal. It's about proportion. In any case, don't expect to make girls happy only with your dick. Like someone else said - work on your oral/manual skills. Only about 30% of women have orgasms from PIV sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:09 AM
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I looked it up - average is between 1.25 and 1.6 inches, so you're a bit on the larger side there, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:00 AM
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<yawn> This is a Question for Women. Dick or get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 04:41 AM
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allow you to do deepthroating without gagging Some might argue that it's not really deepthroating if you aren't gagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:08 AM
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It's like Goldilocks - you don't want one that's way too big or way too small, but different women will have different definitions of those terms. And like others have said, circumference is more important than length. In any case, it's not how big your wand is, it's how you work your magic. Lol ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・ﾟ FWIW 7 1/4" is definitely on the larger side.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 12:49 AM
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Crucial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:24 PM
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I was joking :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:44 PM
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that makes you the outlier. Sure, I'm willing to grant that it's not typical. I, unlike RP, make no presumptions that all other women are the same. But I know some of them do feel as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:25 PM
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Yep, that sums it up well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:14 PM
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Every man I've ever had sex with has started out as a friend. That's how I roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:35 AM
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Who has super hot sex without being highly aroused? Besides porn stars
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 01:30 AM
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Women certainly aren't aroused at the idea of free surgery. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 01:13 AM
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It's high comfort, low arousal. It's more like high comfort --> high arousal. One follows the other for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 01:12 AM
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I am actually sexually attracted to beta men. Honest to God I am. This is the only type of man I've ever dated. Me too - love those sweethearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 01:10 AM
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Sorry. Just trying to lighten the mood. :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 06:01 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:58 PM
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I'm just trying to express my love for Red Pill. All this rejection really hurts my feelings. Who says women are the less romantic sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:51 PM
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I'm actually Chartreuse Pill, but there's no flair for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:26 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:16 AM
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Yeah, the OP didn't specify what "being nice" entails. Edit: WTF with the downvote?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:52 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:32 PM
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Perhaps you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:33 PM
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This is all wonderful advice. I hope he takes it. I especially like the volunteering and fostering/adopting a pet ideas. Participating in things like that, with like-minded people, can go a long way towards restoring your faith in yourself, and in humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:23 PM
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Was I asking you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:08 PM
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Fine but you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:14 PM
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What were you afraid of? Sex. This flair is even better than the last one. I didn't really intend to be sadistic. Just expressing my irritation in a silly way that obliquely plays on my username. You've heard of Countess Bathory?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:25 AM
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It would depend on his mental state. If he'd been raped, he'd be pretty upset and I'd call the cops. If he didn't seem upset...well, he'd regret coming home.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:06 AM
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Don't be so scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:00 AM
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The current time period where women have equal rights with men is a historical aberration. It wasn't true for 98% of history, and its end is already in sight. If you follow the manosphere, poke around it, you'll see explosive growth. So you're telling us that the goal of the manosphere is not to improve men's lives, but to revoke the equal rights of women? And what do think the benefits would be to having James II back on the throne of England?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:23 AM
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Dear Red Pill, MOST WOMEN DON'T WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE SHIT. I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. xoxo Vamp
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:11 AM
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This article from Rational Male includes this gem: Anxiety, fear, guilt, insecurity are all very debilitating emotions, however it’s women’s innate psychology that makes them more durable to these stresses. Statistically, men have far greater difficulty in coping with psychological trauma (think PTSD) than women. This is the basic assumption Rollo is building his post around, and it is incorrect. Women have a 33% lifetime risk of developing an anxiety disorder, whereas for men it is only 22%. Tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:20 AM
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opens the door to stalking and harassment I see your point. I think there's a way, though, to avoid that without being a complete bitch. I start out pleasant but firm, and I reserve the bitchiness for if they get pushy. In my experience, the "Alphas" are more of a problem in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 11:54 PM
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That's true love right? Being honest and open with a person you're incredibly compatible with? Yes, actually. If you're incredibly compatible, why would you need extra charisma? Your Game is being incredibly compatible with her. for a lot of men, these kind of crude generalizations are what they need Well, good luck to them in finding a girl who's incredibly compatible with a fake, misogynistic asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 11:48 PM
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I need to take a break from this place. You and me, both! :-) It upsets me because that notion must hurt you…I'm sorry. It's OK. Some women are shitty human beings, that's a fact. (There are a lot of women on my shit list!) But that's not all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 11:38 PM
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Wow...OK. Look, I'm not saying I love being hit on by men I find unattractive. But when I turn a guy down - whether they're an "Alpha" or an "Omega" - I'm pleasant about it. "I'm flattered, but I have a boyfriend" (or, nowadays "I'm married"). I don't get all fucking offended by it like "how dare he approach me!" If, underneath, he's a"misogynist with a closet entitlement complex" well, he can take it somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 11:32 PM
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Well, then I'm disappointed in my sisters. These guys are just people. You don't have to date them, but you also don't need to treat them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:27 PM
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In what way? I am who I am, and they are who they are. I'm not out every day worrying about my social status/SMV. At most I might think "this is a little awkward." It wouldn't be "revulsion." I think only very young, or very shallow women would feel that way. We meet all kinds of people in this life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:19 PM
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If they weren't assholes, or obviously crazy, or smelly/dirty, why would I be "revolted" by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:34 PM
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a good sack of tits Hilarious and disturbing concept...Lol Kindness and compatibility have absolutely nothing to deal with sexual attraction Dear Red Pill, STOP TELLING ME WHAT I LIKE AND DON'T LIKE YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. Love and kisses, Vamp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:38 PM
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If the 6-pack is your issue, then on tbe first page right now there's two of young Paul Newman, plus a young Ian McKellan. Face it, a lot of these guys are not ripped. For some women it's more about the face and the attitude. Regarding the "no scientists" thing...how many well-known scientists are there for them to choose from? If you're expecting women to post pictures of Stephen Hawking, you're out of your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 02:20 PM
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You said "no ladies posted any smart guys...just your typical 6-pack redpill alphas." I know David Attenborough is a smart guy, and I doubt he had a 6-pack under his clothes in that photo, but I guess I could be wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:53 AM
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no ladies posted any smart guys, scientists and what not. David Attenborough is on there...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:02 AM
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Nice! :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:55 AM
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I'm having deja vu all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:52 AM
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Once you are in a powerless state, any previous consent is void. So I guess we should lock up all those evil surgeons who cut open their unconscious patients. Those Informed Consent forms don't mean anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:51 AM
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Female agency, independence and empowerment are a myth. This is undeniable. Ha ha ha ha ha! OMG - great joke! Thanks for the laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:45 AM
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Ewww...I don't even want 5 seconds of alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 04:59 AM
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Got it. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 01:17 AM
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Thanks for all that detail! we encourage women to allow the man to be himself, which often requires them to step out of the way so that the man has the opportunity to be masculine and enjoy himself. So, are you saying that men usually need to be the leader in order to "be masculine and enjoy themselves?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 01:08 AM
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Maybe I just need to be Hot Captain. Lol There is a greater sense of ownership than in C/FO relationships, but I love it as I am protected and cared for. As someone with BDSM experience, your use of the word "ownership" rang a bell. I've read some people say RPW is just a way for you guys to legitimize a D/s kink. What would you say to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 12:51 AM
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I personally don't consider it a requirement for being an RPW. Now I'm all confused about what are the requirements for being an RPW. Is it really just basically 1) don't be a bitch and 2)let your man make the decisions? Because I'm on board with half of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 12:43 AM
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So how does supervillain/hot sidekick differ from captain/first officer? To me they sound very similar, although I must admit if I had to choose I'd rather be a hot sidekick than a boring old First Officer. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 12:31 AM
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no one is forcing you to enter into an RP dynamic No one on here is, true... I think I understand the distinctions between RPW and TRP better now, thanks. We wouldn't just randomly suggest that someone alter their personalities Yeah, but you guys recommend Laura Doyle's writings, and from what I read (First Kill All Marriage Counsellors) a lot of her message is about hiding what you really think and feel, and just basically being fake and even manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 12:28 AM
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Plenty of RPW would not categorise their relationships as Captain/First Mate even though they are male led. Getting back to our original discussion - for those RPWs that do not consider their relationships Capt./FO, how would they describe them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 11:51 PM
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Ah, I see now. Makes sense. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 11:20 PM
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I'm not sure what your inclusion of this description has to do with our conversation about LLL and Captain/First Mate. It's relevant because it's exactly the kind of description I've seen everywhere in RP contexts. Women need men to lead because they are physically weak, irrational, and indecisive. Men are attracted to women who are sweet and innocent because they make them feel smart, strong, and needed. Just like me and my daughter! But why would, as you say, "two competent adults who love eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 10:59 PM
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For the man to lead, the woman has to follow. She's a follower. It doesn't mean steamrolling, but it does mean one person has authority over the other. Like me and my daughter. I don't steamroll or micromanage her. She picked out her own clothes and made her bed this morning. But I'm in charge and she loves, trusts, and respects me to make the best decisions for her. It's that way because she's physically smaller and weaker than I am and she's very emotional and not as rational or good at making…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 10:23 PM
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There's probably some Kinsey data about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:50 PM
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I think for many of them being enthusiastic = doing "sexually deviant" things. I can't post over there anymore, or I'd ask them. Lol to oral sex being sexually deviant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:44 PM
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I've heard all that before. I'm not sure what to say about it, because it doesn't apply to me and I have no experience as a man. My guess is this happens less often than Rollo implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:40 PM
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If she is low dominance then she is naturally not going to be taking the lead in situations. Wait - then in an LLL relationship, nobody takes the lead? But I thought you said LLL is C/fo? As you describe these RPW relationships, I'm not seeing the male-led-ness. It sounds like two people each doing their thing and negotiating to reach decisions. Like people do in equal relationships. at the end of the day, someone makes the final call and the other person acquiesces. That could be either one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:36 PM
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men who said their SOs refuse to do oral/anal, period...I've literally never come across the latter story. Haven't spent much time at MRP, have you? I don't know about the "men angry at stories of men" thing, but MeRPs are all about trying to get anything besides "starfish sex" from their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:08 PM
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Ok - got it. But he can do all that and still not get a male-led relationship - even if he's developed leadership qualities and she's very attracted to him - if she doesn't see the value in being a follower.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:01 PM
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If a man is at a 30:70 alpha to beta ratio (a 3/10 on my scale) and the woman's threshold is 4 or 5, getting more alpha traits would make the woman more attracted to him and their relationship would become male led. Why would it become male led just because he met her threshold? please don't think that I am saying that MRP is using these ideas and trying to achieve the scenario I just outlined. No, I understand. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:53 PM
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Not really. My point was about promiscuity - actions, not interest and desires - which your comment: In the pre-60s world, social enforcement of shaming against premarital sex supports. Plus women were encouraged to have sex with their husbands, it's wasn't repressed. I can dig up links to manuals from the 50s and 60s, counseling advice, etc, things were different, but not in a "you should deny your husband sex" way. I doubt it was in a "give your husband deep throat BJs and anal" way, either. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:47 PM
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So, what happens when one partner tries to change the dynamic? Like, I don't know...the man decides to change things from an LLL non-male-led relationship to a HLH male-led relationship because he thinks that's how it's "supposed" to be because Red Pill and masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:25 PM
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There are lots of us non-men here on PPD. Anyway, it wasn't any cruder than anything else on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:19 PM
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Ok. So, C/fo is when both partners are low dominance, and the woman likes it that way/doesn't need dominance but still wants to be led. Other RP relationships are also man-led, but in an HLH or HHH way. He's highly dominant and the woman wants that because she can't respect/love him otherwise. She's either low dominance and wants to be taken care of, or high dominance and wants to be kept in line by someone even more dominant. Are HHL or LHH recipes for disaster, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:17 PM
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I don't get it - if RP is primarily about getting young men laid, I imagine the sexually repressed pre-60s world must have been worse. Why would they want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:03 PM
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Just let the free sexual market flourish, and everything will be fine. All you have to do is remove the slut-shaming retrograde patriarchy-supporters and somehow everyone will find happiness magically. What's the alternative? Forced marriage at 13?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 06:57 PM
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How would one "close" the open SMP? Brothels and arranged marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 06:54 PM
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You're trying to draw comparisons between Rand's ideas about society and economy and Blue Pill ideas about sexual/romantic relationships, when Rand had very clear ideas of her own about sexual/romantic relationships, masculinity and femininity, and they were decidedly Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 06:32 PM
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Since when do men get dating advice from women's magazines?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:32 PM
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I saw your post about relationship dynamics/preferences (high vs low dominance) and it was interesting. I'm not sure how that necessarily leads to RP alternatives to C/fo. RP basically insists that the man be in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 04:14 PM
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Sure. My point was, though, if the guy is motivated by insecurity about hypergamy and ends up making his wife hate him for being an asshole, he's failing. A lot of MRP is about "your wife's gonna branch swing, dude! Better get more alpha to keep her on board (and get more blowjobs, of course)!" But it can completely backfire and you'll fuck up what you were trying to save, when it wasn't even that broken to begin with, just because you were insecure. Unnecessary when you could have gone a differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 12:58 AM
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I don't know many people who really respect selfish inconsiderate assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 12:42 AM
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It may not be good, but it sounds like it's what MeRPs get on a regular basis when they start MeRPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:18 PM
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It's more an in between "you've changed - why are you being such a selfish, insensitive asshole?" during an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:12 PM
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I've been told (on AskMRP when I could still post there) that it's very common for wives to say that prior to/during the "main event."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:56 PM
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Well, now I'm wondering if my test result really was wrong because it sounds like your wife and I are pretty different. Not that I put much stake in the M-B, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:29 PM
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Well, it sounds like /u/bonapartist1815 thinks she may have been at the "forefront of degeneracy."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:06 PM
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How about "OMG my wife wants to leave me for Chad because hypergamy. Better learn to crank up the alpha... Now she thinks I'm an asshole. It's working, life improved!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:27 PM
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Jackten always has interesting things to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:20 PM
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False. I could say more, but you didn't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:17 PM
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He has a right to think and write what he wants. They have the right to protest. Amazon has the right to sell what it wants, and everyone has the right to read or not read what they want. That said, he disgusts me, and if he's done what he claims to have done, he deserves to have charges pressed against him by the women involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 07:37 PM
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Make up your mind dammit! No! I mean yes! Wait...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:10 AM
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large percentage of women that never orgasm through intercourse alone Lol, this old stat. It's true. We could poll the ladies of PPD and probably confirm. You do have a point, though - multiple orgasms FTW!! But some men can have them too, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:08 AM
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Hey, I can laugh about my own situation. Others may feel differently, which is fine, but I don't consider myself to have been raped Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:26 PM
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A few years ago, in a paper format (don't remember the details) Trust me, if you knew me in real life, instead of getting hung up on my digit ratio, etc., you'd know I was INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:23 PM
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Everybody's got dealbreakers. I wouldn't date an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:10 PM
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That's a lot of people you're lumping together. First, Anal and oral are two different animals. Second, it's about sexual compatibility. To each his own. Find someone who likes to do what you want done. And don't suddenly change the rules and expect them to jump on board.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 08:03 PM
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This is such a tangent, I'm struggling to find any connection here. I'm INTJ, FWIW.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:25 PM
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Wow. I have little to say on the "size issue." I'm one of the majority of women who cannot have vaginal orgasms, so it's really not much of a concern for me. Plus, my n-count is low. I'm inclined to believe the A-spot is a myth, along with the idea that "squirting orgasms" are anything other than the woman urinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:24 PM
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if that's what you consider rape, LOL Not in a knife-to-the-throat, "do it or I'll hurt/kill you" way, certainly. But part of the definition involves using abusive tactics to coerce someone into having sex. I think yelling abuse at someone while handling their genitals roughly probably qualifies. And it's not particularly funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:11 PM
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"Ruining her for the men that follow me" was the giveaway. Of course, if they're not into it, then you're just being an asshole You could call it that, I guess. It does have a legal name though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:06 AM
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If you're going to be in an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 11:17 PM
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If the roles were reversed, most people would call that rape. Well, fuck, it was rape. She verbally abused you until you complied. There may be people in this world who are inherently good and people who are inherently evil, but most people have the capacity for either one depending on the circumstances. For some, the stimulus must be extreme, such as war or famine. For my wife, it was that I lost my six-pack and always gave her what she asked for. That is fucked up. I was just arguing with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 11:15 PM
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You're kinking wrong, "brah."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:55 PM
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Derailer! And Explainer, 'cuz I'm a know-it-all bossypants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:53 PM
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Genuine charm is not a performance, and it takes many forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:28 PM
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Sex is harder to achieve than love???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:27 PM
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It's certainly not whether the man does the right little dance (Game) in front of the woman. Humans aren't bower birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:21 PM
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All of RP points to this being the ideal model - the one that will allow men and women to fulfill their evolutionary roles, etc. - though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:20 PM
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Love is not a value transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:17 PM
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If you're serious - fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:14 PM
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I will never again be the slave. That's pretty strong. You were "the slave"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:11 PM
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This performance must be fulfilled for him to achieve her affections, because her love for him is dependent on it. Oh, JFC - it's the old "women only love you for what you do/how you make them feel/basically, they can't really love you" thingie. Bullshit x200.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:54 PM
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this is already a huge misunderstanding. I'd like to read your elaboration on that, if you're inclined to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:45 PM
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A boss is your captain, what's so bad about that? I don't need a boss at home. Also - I don't fuck my boss. I got a million of them - shall I keep going ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:37 PM
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Neither of us feel like we're here by choice. There's lots of ways to skin a cat. RP/C-fo is just one. But you know that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:15 PM
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not all of them are as put together as you are We agree on that one! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:08 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:38 PM
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Just know that I have given this much more thought with far more information then you have. Fair enough. team woman Lol. Just as Team Man certainly appreciates your aspirational tales of expert, and tantalizingly illicit, cocksmanship, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:33 PM
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the best most are getting is half custody That doesn't sound so bad. That's probably what I'd get if I divorced my husband. Trust me, if it was as simple as telling the judge she was shit, you think he wouldn't have done it by now? Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:26 PM
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have an upvote. Aw, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:14 PM
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Cad, I don't care how many women you fuck, or when, how, or where you fuck them. I wouldnt have the "blessing" of women to continue living my life on my terms. You don't need their blessing, you're right. But if you really want to life your life on your own terms, my opinion is that you need to be honest about it. Otherwise, you're still really on her terms and you're undermining your own integrity as a human being. I've made my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:11 PM
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you're focusing on what wifey wants, as if thats the gold standard here. I don't give a shit what his wife wants. If she cheated on him, she's a shitty wife and he should dump her. If she's really that bad a parent, he could document it and get an awesome lawyer. It's the glorification of cheating and the - regardless of what you say - undeniable tit-for-tat going on here that I'm calling out. "I have no choice - I have to cheat because how can I get a divorce?! My hands are tied! BTW, look at w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:55 PM
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I don't take away her ability to be a woman, and I don't presume to control what she does. Well, good, I guess. Complaining about her online doesn't take away her ability to be a woman, but somehow you think I've taken away my husband's ability to be a man by doing the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:45 PM
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He lives unapologetically according to his happiness. If he was actually doing that, he wouldn't be sneaking around. Remember, his wife has been doing the same to him, so why does being #2 to the fuck party mean he's gets shit for it? No, I don't "remember" because he never said that, though I asked. This tit-for-tat, "you think you can cheat on me...I'll show you what cheating is (although it's really all in my own mind because I'm sneaking around and telling myself I'm not being vindictive)" s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:36 PM
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I like variety and abundance. Yeah, who doesn't? That's when you negotiate an open marriage or get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:27 PM
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you did emascuate your man for quite a while though. I didn't do anything you guys don't do to your wives on a daily basis over at MRP. Cad may cheat, but he also pays the bills and handles his husband duties. "Not cheating" is basically husband duty #1, and he's failing. He needs to negotiate an open relationship or get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:25 PM
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as if he needs to convince you that he's justified. I find it odd that he loves to talk about his situation so much, as long as it paints him as a super-edgy alpha pussy whisperer, yet won't elaborate on that. Not much he could say would convince me he is justified. How about being a man and facing your problems head-on? Who the fuck are you to judge another mans life there lady? Actions have consequences. It's not just his life, gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:20 PM
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Oh, hi there! Nice to see you. I know this much: I don't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:14 PM
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Im just doing what I want. If my wife is in the business of looking out for herself then it removed my self imposed obligations to stop doing same for me. Then I go back to my original question - what was/is this unforgivable crime she committed/continues to commit? She's fucking you now, right? Not good enough? If she's such a piece of shit and you're getting all this awesome pussy on the side, why would you even want it? People like you NEED me to be miserable I don't need you to be miserable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:58 PM
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Its not vindictive or passive aggressive when she is unaware right? No, actually, it is - it all happens in the mind, being vindictive and passive-aggressive. And it can fuck you up. And in any case, she won't be unaware forever and you probably know that. Maybe that adds to the validation you get from it - how long can I pull this off? What an idiot she is, she has no idea! And the longer it goes on, the more it will hurt when she does find out - I've seen it happen. Do you want her to hurt? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:31 PM
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Vamp, do you think men and women have equal capabilities for rationalization and delusion, in a relationship context? Yep - it's one of those human psychology thingies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:14 PM
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Then you are being deliberately vindictive and passive-aggressive? I don't see how I'm being judgemental if that's actually what you're doing. And what about male honor and all that bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 06:03 PM
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The evilness comes into play when one person tries to coerce/manipulate/force the other into this type of relationship when they don't want it. Edit: Hey downvoters - why exactly do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 05:17 PM
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To be alpha he only needs to have significantly more power than her. Why would I want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 02:10 PM
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Terminal cancer? - Bad, of course. (why would that ever be funny?) Would I loan them money? - I only lend money to friends, so nope Are they subhuman? - No, all too human
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 05:57 AM
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I think you're in the wrong place, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 05:51 AM
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plus travels the world. I thought men don't get hard-ons for how much a woman's traveled (along with her degrees, job, etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 05:46 AM
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I read just the first couple of sentences of that post and my heart goes out to her. :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:39 AM
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"Yeah I would love to be raped by a high value man, but you aren't high value enough for me. Sorry." What the fuck...seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:56 AM
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This!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:39 AM
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<sup>word</sup> ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:25 AM
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So when you think "nurture" greatly influences your romantic preferences, what are you referring to? Since you just denied that jock-bullying turned you off to that behavior. It's a combo of experience and nurture, along with temperament. Jock bullying did turn me off, but even without it I doubt I would have been interested in them because of my temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:21 AM
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a study of ~3000 female sexual assault victims Feminist lies! End of fucking story! indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:12 AM
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Yeah, I was being snarky, but how was my comment "misandrist?" Considering all the hateful (misogynistic?) things said about women on the red pill subs, I'm gonna set the bar pretty high on that one. So what exactly was misandrist about wanting a guy who is pressuring a woman for anal to understand what it feels like? Really, again - I was just trying to make the point that pressuring someone for a sex act (male or female - see my comment on sounding below) is shitty and that one should consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 03:53 PM
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You took my comment off in a weird direction. I was speaking of a single sex act and you started talking about perceived social injustices. My point was simply that there are some good reasons to be hesitant about anal, and that if one is going to try to coerce someone else into doing it, he should be willing experience it himself first. It's not like PIV, which a man cannot experience from the woman's perspective, but for which the human body is built and which is unlikely to be painful/cause i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:24 AM
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a lot of "your sexuality is influenced by nurture" theories, I don't accept; like how men only like fashion-model physiques because of advertising That's not what I've been talking about. This is more societal influence, and I agree with you on it for the most part. Video games don't make people violent, etc. The "nurture" I talk about is one's childhood experiences with caregivers, social experiences with peers - the personal stuff that is so potent and pivotal. Look at attachment theory for ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:03 AM
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I'll second what SpaceWhiskey said - I don't "kind of like them now" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 04:50 AM
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Any man inclined to pressure a woman for anal should let her peg him first with a life-size dildo. Then he'll know exactly what it is he's asking her to do. The anus is an exit-only organ, and it can hurt like hell (and be messy) if not done properly. Not everyone's cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 01:19 AM
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You might get more anal if you weren't an asshole about it - a big part of a woman's willingness to do it comes down to trust. You don't sound trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 12:40 AM
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I don't know - never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:45 PM
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Do you think this might have influenced your taste in men? Absolutely. As for your edit, I think this is likely a common experience for women who respond to asshole Alpha-ness. Once you're in a relationship, it's not always going to be cocky/funny asshole - sometimes it's just going to be straight-up asshole. Please note that I'm not implying that these women deserved bad treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:42 PM
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I was an ugly - and weird - duckling and got bullied as a child. I went to a small K-12 school so by the time I turned into a swan (and started modeling) as a teen it was very uncool to date me. I dated only two boys in high school - one from another school and one foreign exchange student. Traveling for work and going to college were revelations in terms of male attention, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 09:04 PM
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You guys are making a lot of assumptions about this man without any basis. Her comment doesn't give details that support what you're saying. How do you know he didn't do those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 01:07 AM
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:-)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:50 PM
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Still think you're a high troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:03 PM
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if you realize its healthy, why discourage your kid from doing it privately? I encourage my children to shit often and where appropriate. You're either high, or a troll, or a high troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:02 PM
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A Bugatti is an arrogantly useless car that goes really fast in a straight line. It's a one-trick pony and not relevant to most people, so I guess you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:58 PM
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Then why do it? You get off on making them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:46 PM
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Shitting is healthy too, but I don't do it in public, or use it as a stupidly juvenile way to turn men away and get off on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:45 PM
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Well, grow up and use words instead of being a disgusting, bitchy toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:38 PM
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They moved where he wanted, so he could take a job he wanted. He didn't want her to go into the military, go back to school, or make more friends, so she didn't. He sure as hell got what he wanted and controlled his life. And it made him miserable. RP makes guys think they want that kind of relationship, when in reality it sucks for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:29 PM
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How old are you, for fuck's sake? My 5 year old is more mature than that, so I'll give you the advice I gave him when he was a toddler - use your words!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:25 PM
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You had the relationship model right. She let him lead/make the major decisions, as RP/RPW advocates (like I said before), and the result was her not getting any of the big things she needed in her life and he was resentful. That's one possible, I'd say probable, result of TRP - he got what he wanted, she didn't, both were unhappy, relationship failed. You can't shoehorn everyone into TRP and then just explain failure away by saying "he didn't dominate the right way."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:11 PM
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If you bothered to understand TRP. That's always the response, isn't it? It's weak. Can you elaborate what I haven't bothered to understand? Nobody actually advocates that. The obsession with "submissiveness" contradicts that. And "nobody?" Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:31 PM
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I don't think the issue is whether a power imbalance exists, but rather how consistent the imbalance is and how the assigning of power is determined. Power in relationships should be fluid. As many others have mentioned, what that looks like is that each partner leads on the things they know more about/are better at. It is not man=leader in all things because testosterone. I have a lot of reasons for thinking this, but, if nothing else, at this stage in human history there are bells that have ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:21 PM
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I agree with you 100%. Your previous life sounds exactly like what RP/RPW advocates, and claims is the natural order of things and the way for women to be happy. But you (and millions - if not billions - of other women in the world) are proof that it's wrong. It comes down to having the opportunity to choose - I think most women would choose as you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:00 PM
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Deliberately giving someone an unreasonable request and then being mad when they protest is messed up. Being mad to the point you withdraw your affection, with the attendant hidden message being that your love for them has diminished, is even more so. Depending on the circumstances and the nature of the request, I think it could potentially be emotionally abusive. That goes for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 02:15 PM
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That's good to hear. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:04 PM
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He will ask me to do something unreasonable that he knows is unreasonable to see if I'll be obedient. If I do it with out complaint, I passed the shit test. If I complain or question his order, then I failed the shit test and he will withdraw affection. Withdrawing affection because you won't jump to comply with an unreasonable request? How do you feel about that? My initial reaction is that it's fucked up and borderline emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:11 AM
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I've been with some very attractive girls, but I married someone whose personality clicked with mine. So would that mean that - according to RP - you "settled"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:05 AM
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Because Manosphere" has "man" in it?? No. Masculine" is just another way of saying "alpha," There's more to it than that. Men do, indeed, shit test Give me one example. It's called "pushing someone else's buttons to see how they'll react." All human beings do it all the time. Why don't we make a PPD post "Do Men Shit Test?" you're asking many questions that have been exhaustively covered in the well known blogs. Yes, I know. Perhaps I want to hear other opinions/interpretations and discuss the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:35 AM
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The only special feature here is you get to spank intellectual lightweights without the fear of being shouted down by the mob You know why I'm here? Because I've been banned from MRP and RPW - if anything, the mob is afraid of me. humiliating beta males over the web won't save your marriage, and you're not getting revenge on anyone either. Who have I humiliated? Masculine” and “feminine” are not big concepts in RP anyways...men don't really care I think we've been reading different stuff, then. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:03 AM
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You're not really communicating with me - maybe you're shit testing, using me as a stand in for A(F)W? I'm asking you to leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:31 PM
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Speaking with you is an unalloyed joy. You're not "speaking" with anyone. Your comments are soliloquies. All your declarations, your pretentious literary references - none of it is meaningful to anyone but yourself. Perhaps you should keep a diary instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 07:22 PM
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What kind of upbringing did you have? Not going into that, sorry. Your latest thread is so, well, stupid I'm kind of concerned, like more than usual. You're not an androgynous person so the question is all the more baffling if it was lucidly formed. It's not as stupid as it sounds. As for you being "concerned" - not necessary. I was giving a monologue on irc Why am I not surprised? I'm invested so much effort in you That effort is being deposited directly into your ego. It has nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 01:27 PM
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I just edited my post. I'm asking because I see people throwing the terms around, and I do think they mean different things to different people. I think that perhaps the individual traits are weighted differently by RP than society at large. Does that make more sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:17 AM
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That's quite vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 05:57 AM
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Maybe you could define what you consider "masculine" and "feminine."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 05:40 AM
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Ow...my jimmies! ☆ﾟ. ໒(ಠ_ಠ)७☆ﾟ.･｡ﾟ
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 11:44 PM
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I suggest ending it and go be happy, or harpy, with someone else. "Harpy" - nice. I never asked for your advice, did I?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 09:39 PM
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Did he inspire tingles and security in you at the same time? Ah, tingles and security...that's all a girl needs. RPW may have some advice better suited to the feminine side of this No no no no no no! RPW is for women who look at RP and say "I want that." I find it all depressing and of no value to me. actively being combative doesn't help anything Shall l try passive manipulation, then? Apparently that's the path to a happy, healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 08:56 PM
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You know, there's this great video of an otter on r/aww right now...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 08:06 PM
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The idea that love needs a hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:37 PM
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Maybe RP men are trying to negotiate women into needing them. I think that might be the reason, at least in part. I'm doing OK. Things are complicated, but I'm trying to remain optimistic. Thank you for asking. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 02:17 PM
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If men find a role humiliating, then why are they so surprised when women find it humiliating as well? I've asked this question several times and never received an answer. I'd really like to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:05 AM
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❄ ❄ ❄ ❄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:51 AM
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All the effort doesn't seem worth it, if all you're getting is resource provision (and sex...ok and I guess kids). Women can increasingly provide for themselves - I sense that's part of what RP is trying to address. If women don't need men for provisioning, what do they need them for? The answer, to me, is a lot of stuff- but it sounds like you might disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:53 AM
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It's OK!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:39 AM
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Wow, that's an impressively bleak point of view...at least from a woman's perspective. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:24 AM
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Do you find the idea of being with the same person "forever" to be appealing Yes, if the true love is there Why is it a good thing? Having one person in the world who knows you deeply, loves you deeply and above all others, and who will not abandon you when you're old and sick - best life circumstances I can imagine. Do you not fear that you'll just get bored of them in time? I'm learning that as I get older, the potential for boredom actually decreases. I don't have quite the same need for nove…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:41 PM
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If a man has enough resources, infidelity wouldn't affect your life at all, because even if you're not his #1 girl, he's still grateful - as long as you don't get jealous, or he keeps it a secret. This is assuming I approach my marriage as a transaction, which I don't. Would him spending two thirds of a Sunday with his mistress every two weeks make that much of a difference? I got to this question, and then stopped reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:34 PM
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Do you care to elaborate on your position regarding the OP, or are you just here to make jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:05 PM
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Women just sit back and enjoy it while men prepare a romantic event for them. They don't do shit. OK, Cassanova, what qualifies as a "romantic event"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:00 PM
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Too easy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:57 PM
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In my case it doesn't matter because I'm married with two kids. What can I tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:52 PM
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I hesitate to reply, because I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing your personal choices. If you are happy in your relationship and feel loved and valued, that's awesome. I think I must just be wired differently because I wouldn't. I'd ask, if you don't mind - is your relationship open only on his side simply because you don't feel the need for variety? Or is there another reason? And do you not feel concerned that the sexual connection he makes with another woman could lead to a romantic c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:46 PM
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I guess it's a question of how one is wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:27 PM
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Aw...don't step on my dream of fairy tale forever-after romance. :-( What am I saying! I'm a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:07 PM
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So men in love aren't compelled by biology to have sex with as many women as possible. And women in love aren't compelled by biology to find another, better mate. But when not in love, RP applies? I wish people could stay in love forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:30 PM
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FWIW, There was a recent study that showed women are more likely to stay married to a spouse with cancer than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:25 PM
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Yeah, every guy falls over himself to buy the perfect flowers for his girl. And women never cook elaborate meals for their guys. <yawn> Your facile response is missing the point. It's not about actions, it's about feelz.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:37 PM
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I think in that case the unconditional love is for the child, not the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:34 PM
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There are redpill men who plate women and redpill men who prefer LTRs and are very loyal. Let's not stereotype here. I'm not stereotyping. I'm using RP concepts to analyze another RP concept - women are hypergamous by nature, men are polygamous. Men are the romantic ones. Does not compute!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:32 PM
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You are conceptualizing this through "strictly monogamous lens". Yes, I already acknowledged that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:28 PM
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If one is enough, why have more? I do get that some people enjoy a poly lifestyle. I'm talking about monogamous relationships and the claims RP makes about how men operate within them vs. how women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:19 PM
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First of all, pretty sure not all men are polygamous. And not all women are hypergamous. Yes, I'm inclined to agree. Nothing about polygamy disproves idealistic and unconditional love from men towards women. As I said somewhere else, in my view, "never being enough" is a zero on the unconditional scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:13 PM
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The desire for more is always there, though, whether they can act on it or not. men seem to have internalized this much more than women. Hence all the strip clubs, prostitutes, and mistresses who cater to men who are already in relationships? If men are as noble as you make them sound, there wouldn't be such a demand for these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:04 PM
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"Never being enough" is a zero on the unconditional scale. She never has a chance to get out of the gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:58 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:48 PM
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Where on this post have I brought it up? Maybe I should give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you aren't aware of what you're doing. You've consistently responded to my posts and comments with - not only information about RP ideas, which I do appreciate - but also a mention of my marriage and how accepting the ideas you've put forth are the way to fix it and that not accepting them (i e. "continuing to do what I'm doing") will lead to failure. In this way you're attempting to pursuade me to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:24 PM
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Why lecture me about my marriage if you aren't attempting to change my mind? Why get personal like that? Your view, as you've stated before, is that I should just accept things for the way they are (the RP explanation) and "improve myself" accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:55 PM
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This is a debate sub - you guys explain. I understand your position and then push back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:50 PM
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I appreciate your explanation - do you agree with it? You're basically telling me - and I think also expecting me to accept - the premise that women do not actually like or care about their husbands. And that marriages are basically a replication of the father/daughter dynamic. Healthy women do not want or need another daddy to take care of them and tell them what to do. They want a friend, lover, and partner in crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:45 PM
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Thanks for your thoughtful response. if the husband no longer stays above the woman, she can no longer respect him, and so she cannot love him. Many women somehow manage to love their husbands without having this kind of relationship dynamic. Reducing a woman's love for her man to the desire for provision and protection is ludicrously simplistic. Not to mention horribly depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:40 PM
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A woman's love for a man is premised more on respect than on affection or affinity, more on her looking up to him and looking to him than on her really liking him or caring about him. I think that's utter bullshit. A man's love for a woman is premised on his helping her, caring for her and soothing her. Bullshit again. Plenty of men love women who need no help, care, or soothing. In fact, they are irritated by women who need those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:33 PM
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Thanks for writing all this - you have some good points. I still think you do not love someone truly or unconditionally if you are willing to betray their trust simply because you are bored with them. That's not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:29 PM
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What does that idealism look like, though? And does it mesh with the idea that, while women may be hypergamous, men are polygamous. A Polygamous sexual nature seems to me completely antithetical to any idealistic "true love," even more than a hypergamous one. Disloyalty is built into polygamy. This is a core issue with RP that I have never understood - how men can be both polygamous and the more romantic ones at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 02:39 PM
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So did he fess up and drop the "it's not about you, it's about my self improvement" facade? not yet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:56 AM
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Yes, and then they can love as a fully-formed human being. The implication is that there is something selfish and lacking about the way women love men. And again I ask - what is this special love that men have for women that women cannot reciprocate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:51 AM
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“For men, love is nothing more than gratitude for the gift of pleasure" RP asserts that "women only love you for how you make them feel" - this sounds like the male counterpart to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:44 AM
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Such a bizarre idea. What is this special love that men have for women that women cannot reciprocate? Children don't love their parents the same way their parents love them due to a whole host of factors - their brains and minds are not matured, causing them to be extremely self-centered, etc. They aren't capable of loving anyone in that way. The same is not true of women. If they are capable of loving their children deeply, they can love their men as well, no? Why reduce women to the emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:38 AM
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men do not respect women Ok, I've got to ask - why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:29 AM
7

As a follow up: it sounds like you feel this way about all women. Is it different with a woman you're romantically involved with/in love with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:57 PM
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No, this is exactly what I was wondering about. What this dynamic feels like. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:56 PM
1

Friend, you're not worth shit testing and need to learn to evaluate your adversaries better. Since you brought it up, I'll ask you another bullshit question - are you arguing that the men who come to RP subs and blather on about evil Feminists ruining society don't feel powerless to stop it? Are they just too cool to bother, like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:31 PM
1

Not from you, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:13 PM
1

You think you're helping ? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:09 PM
1

I'm speaking more of Red Pill in general - the subs, blogs, etc. The whole ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:05 PM
1

Lol, no... I meant why do you bother making dickish comments like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:47 PM
2

I don't think anybody has any delusions that writing articles about doing kick-ass squats is going to make modern gyms go back to the way they were in the good old days. Because people writing things, and other people reading them and following their advice, never has a wider impact, huh? You've completely changed my view of human history! You've made your point, Archwinger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:37 PM
2

Still fatuous, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:27 PM
2

I think those traits benefit both men and women...!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:26 PM
4

That's a fatuous analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:20 PM
2

Well that 10% is all we have to work with on Reddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 10:12 PM
3

it's just kind of a weird way to think about things, and I would suspect some hypocrisy. Hypocrisy...in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:59 PM
2

Why do you even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:57 PM
2

Its my life I live it how I want if you don't like it then don't deal with me I don't care I'll find people who will. I care about my life and what I do to ensure I'm protected in every facet of it. Are you feeling defensive? No one is attacking you personally here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:56 PM
5

I'm not asserting that RP exists solely to fight feminism, I think it's one of its functions. It's an anti-feminist ideology, but it's not men acting out against feminism. Having read the blogs as well has the subs, I disagree. I think a lot of it is "feminists are screwing up society, let's get things back to the way they used to be when women wore dresses and stayed home with the kids." That's a caricature, but just look at Ian Ironwood's blog for copious evidence of pre-feminist idealized fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:48 PM
5

You don't think it's trying to affect change by promoting the anti-feminist worldview and giving men advice on how to structure their relationships to counteract Feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:35 PM
2

Ok, so perhaps I'm referring more to MRP, with which I'm more familiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:27 PM
4

Perhaps activism is a misnomer. My view is that it is promoting an anti-feminist worldview via its descriptions of feminine nature and the specific advice for men to follow within their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:26 PM
2

The Red Pill is an effort to redefine masculinity separate from what feminism tells men they should be. You make some good points but from what I've seen, the bulk of TRP isn't even discussing masculinity. It's discussing what it sees as feminine nature and behavior. Several of the RP blogs attempt to define what a "Good Woman" is (hint: she's not a Feminist). I personally have had MRP-ers and RPW attempt to "correct" my view of what femininity is. MRP is ostensibly about men making themselves d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:24 PM
1

Do you think that anti-feminist thought is applied within relationships as a way to counteract the unhappiness men feel in response to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:09 PM
1

Women who purport "feminism" believe they are acting in their own self-interest, but do not have the perspective of heterosexual men, and in some ways are going on a fool's errand--attempting to achieve happiness while completely neglecting how evolution has wired them to achieve happiness. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say they "do not have the perspective of heterosexual men" - could you explain that? Also, I don't think evolution has wired anyone to achieve happiness in a cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:06 PM
2

Aw...but I don't. Can you explain why it's bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:53 PM
1

Do you approach your relationships with women with that in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:52 PM
1

I don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:44 PM
6

So, is it your assertion that men and women have no use for each other unless sex is involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:09 PM
1

Perhaps a better example might be the US Civil War, which was definitely a war about undoing societal wrongs There're some arguments to be made that this isn't true, either. Money and power were a huge factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 07:38 PM
5

Attractive and unattractive, both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 07:05 PM
5

Sure, I get that. But this obsession with "Chad Thundercock" and his ability to screw any and every woman at the drop of a hat indicates angst that goes beyond just wanting to get laid on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 07:04 PM
4

What is "genuine friendship," Pem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 06:52 PM
3

Lack of sex, yeah - plus the quality of sex, and the inability to have sex with whomever you want, whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:39 PM
2

Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? That's what would happen if you eliminated everyone with social awkwardness and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 05:19 AM
3

I'm an 11.267. I've slept with/dated men in the 9.543 to 12.877 range, give or take a few thousandths.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 05:03 AM
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I learned that the world is an ugly place from which there is no respite, and a lot of men are very, very angry about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 03:17 AM
1

I'm just pointlessly pointing out the inconsistency, of which you are already aware. Some TRP-ers are pretty insistent on the praxeology-only thing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 03:03 AM
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Read Rollo I have, and I think RP is both philosophy/ideology and praxeology. As for the rest - I've nothing to say on the topic of Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 10:23 PM
1

Rollo...is very much about the theory of the red pill, what lies behind it and so on Funny, I've been told in no uncertain terms that there is no "theory of the red pill." It's all just "praxeology."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 09:57 PM
2

I see below-average men dating or married all the time, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 09:33 PM
2

What I'm trying to get through to you is that there really are women in this world who have never had an average guy approach them with sexual intent. Maybe they've had undesirable men (homeless, old, ugly, etc.) approach, but not average and certainly not the "top 1/3", as I have seen some TRP-ers state. You don't see these women, so you don't include them in your "woe is me, I can't get laid" accounting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:06 PM
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Hey - happy new year, irateMD! Maybe you should send them to marriedredpill? Lol, that would be awkward! :-) In any case, I was being a little facetious. As I tried to say earlier, I don't agree that every time a guy talks to me without needing something, he's hitting on me. A lot of women strike up conversations with me, too. I think maybe I just seem approachable in a town where there are a lot of unapproachable looking people. Most guys can't understand the perspective of unattractive women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 10:32 PM
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not count guys they wouldn't consider having sex with. So they should count homeless dudes and old men? If there's a real minority of women that are never ever approached by men, where are they Not on those subs, I guess, or maybe they don't want to discuss it? Where are these "hundreds of millions of thirsty men" in real life? I have married men approach me (by your definition) fairly often. Why are they "thirsty" - go home and fuck your wife, man!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 02:45 PM
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I don't think he's obligated to tell me, but I wouldn't want to be in an LTR with a man who wouldn't tell me something like that. I do think it's reasonable to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 02:27 PM
2

I'm not saying it never happens to anybody. I'm saying there are some women who have never experienced what you're describing. Why is that so hard to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:17 AM
1

So are you asserting that these women I know are being chatted up in the subway and not realizing it? Some I know would love for a guy their age to talk to them spontaneously like that. It doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:06 AM
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Most women have firsthand sexual experience with a top 1/3 man You've got to be fucking kidding me. Jesus, where do you guys get this shit from? For one thing, a significant number of women have little-to-no sexual experience at all, let alone with "a top 1/3 man."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:59 AM
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Any time a man talks to a woman -- outside of necessity -- there's better than an 80% chance he's interested in her. Really? Wow. So 80% of men who have spoken to me (not out of necessity) are doing it because they're seriously hoping to have sex with me? That's ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:34 AM
1

So it's either "street smarts" or "gender studies?" There's nothing in between?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:30 AM
1

They don't love each other, and I'm sure their kid can see it. He should get himself some counseling and then divorce her and they can both be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:25 AM
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Would not touch with 10-foot pole. And not just because of STDs. 6 Reason: I'd worry he can't commit, and I'd always feel like just another notch on his bedpost, even if he married me. Not attractive. "Congratulations! You're my 300th customer! Here's a ring!" Balloons fall from ceiling, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:18 AM
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The issue is, that if men's SMV must be more comprehensive, necessitously the physical attraction bar should be lower. Yet currently, it is not. I guess I'm not the best woman to ask, since my standards, and those of the women I know, seem to be different from those of the women you're describing. I know lots of women who may care about how men look, but often they're looking more at "type" rather than nitpicking details. I have a friend who likes "big guys" - burly dudes, but not necessarily bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:09 AM
5

Lol - ask your TRP friends what a "hambeast" is. the "ugly little girls" you're disparaging. I'm not disparaging them - I used to be one. But nice try. There is no "magic formula" for getting into Susie's pants. I said they were looking for one, and thinking they'd found it in "Game," etc. You don't get it and you don't understand what TRP is all about. You've been here for weeks shit talking your husband and men in general for trying to improve. If what I said is wrong, then maybe you should go…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 11:03 PM
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Happy new year to you, too! :-) In response to your question, I'd ask this question - Would you prefer for men to be judged solely on their looks? I'd think the more components involved in your SMV the better - less weight placed on any one factor, and you don't have to be perfect in all of them. I believe most women would love it if men took into consideration how funny they are, or how successful, smart, or talented they are, instead of it all being about how pretty your face is or how big you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 10:56 PM
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you're assigning moral values to all this. It's a matter of sexual strategy. That's all it is. The emotion here is coming from the TRP side - so much anger! I'm defending the girls those guys call "hambeasts" and then want to complain about how they have no-one to suck their dicks. Most of those ugly little girls eventually get chosen. No TRP guy is going to choose them over Susie cheerleader. He's gonna come on Reddit looking for the magic formula to get into Susie's pants, and when it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:00 PM
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In the context of meeting women for sexual purposes, SMV is all that matters according to TRP. Yes. So what? Just pointing out the contradiction, Pem, of you saying TRP does not say that all men care about is looks. All men care about in the context being discussed, according to TRP, is how a woman looks because that's 95% of her SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:49 PM
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Why should a woman invest her time in a low value man? TRP calls that "hypergamy" and gets all up in arms about it, but when men do it, it's merely "optimization." You can say women lie to men about hypergamy, but I say go cry to the ugly little girl who thinks someday a nice guy will see her inner beauty and choose her over Susie cheerleader.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:45 PM
2

Fair enough. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:37 PM
3

Are you saying the average dude can't get laid? Happens all the time. One could make the case that if you're not getting laid, you're not average. But yeah, not "every" guy or girl can get sex easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:36 PM
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You speak about his enjoyment of motorcycles and planes as if it were a male characteristic. He's a pilot? Do you think women pilots are not excited by planes, or are they just unfeminine? Yeah, it would be nice to be able to pee while running. Male genitalia is a lot more efficient! :-) I'm sorry to hear about all the sexual discomfort you went through. I hope all is better, now! Men have a more limited emotional palette I think this is selling men short. Think of all the great male artists and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:14 PM
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They're not pissed because they don't get to fuck the best girls. They're pissed because they've been lied to about why the best girls don't want to fuck them. They go hand in hand. They wouldn't care so much about the latter if they didn't care so much about the former And no, TRP doesn't assert that all men care about is how a woman looks. TRP asserts that most of a woman's SMV is in her physical appearance. In the context of meeting women for sexual purposes, SMV is all that matters according…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:55 PM
2

If you're prone to them, sure. But it's not a rule "all women need to pee after sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:50 PM
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Even shy, fat girls with bad teeth don't want sex with any men but the best men. You make it sound like 80% of men in the world are incels, when it just isn't the case. Those 80% of men just don't get to fuck the "best women" and they're pissed because, as RP itself asserts, all men care about is how a woman looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:34 PM
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That's awesome. Do you agree, though, with your husband's characterization of how women are (why it would suck to be one)? Is it partly a misperception of what it's like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:28 PM
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And I'm telling you my experience is different. Are girls pouring out their hearts to you about their love lives? Or are you just making assumptions? Every time a guy comes on here asking these kinds of questions - why won't girls fuck me - it becomes apparent at some point he is talking about a specific type of girl. "Why won't the cute blonde social girls fuck me?" It's never "why won't the shy, fat girls with crooked teeth fuck me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:24 PM
1

Hmm...ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:43 PM
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I know a shit ton of barely-visible "nerdy girls." And I know women who've made it into their 30s without ever being "cold approached" by a guy - because they're fat or plain. This idea that every woman has dick falling into her lap everyday is idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:40 PM
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No offense to your husband, but most of those things don't hold up - women can pee on the side of the road (done it), and they don't have to get pregnant, go to tupperware parties, pee after sex. I worked in a very un-pc office with women and some gay guys - man, the shit that was said! I'm not saying men and women have the exact same experiences, I just think we make a lot of inaccurate assumptions about each other based on stereotypes that make us seem more different than we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:32 PM
2

Late to the party, but happy new year everybody! Hope those hangovers aren't too terrible!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:17 PM
2

It's not that he's trying to change the marriage that's upsetting, it's how he's going about it, and the RP ideas he is letting influence him. I was being sarcastic and deflecting the question because I didn't want to answer it. That question's been asked and answered a million times now. That's one way of looking at it, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:53 PM
1

Submission is not weakness. You need strength to maintain and stick to your submission. Given what you've said, and the notion that submissiveness is the natural state of women - have women been misrepresented over the centuries (and by RP) as weak-willed, fickle beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 12:46 AM
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I know you're not going to reply, but what the heck. This was my OP (deleted for a reason, by the way)... Men love woman and women respect men. You think that love is worth less than respect. It's not. It's different Why not everybody get both? Do you have to choose between air and water? You are using arguing as a way to get out of thinking about any of this. Nope, arguing is the method by which I am thinking about this. You guys aren't really thinking about the issues I'm raising or why I migh…
/r/askMRP09/12/15 04:39 PM
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To be clear, here's a sampling of my questions that didn't get answered: Why don't/can't men respect women? What makes a good captain? Smart? Wise? Brave? Good with people? Good at organization? Experienced? Educated? Am I really to believe, that in any given married couple, the man should always be superior in those areas? Why is it better for the husband to make the final decision?
/r/askMRP09/12/15 04:25 PM
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Which questions didn't I answer? I'd go back and answer them, but the post is locked. You backtracked on the issue of hypergamy. Hypergamy isn't just about men competing. It's about women dating "up." So that's why I wondered - if a woman wants a man who is better than her, does it not seem rational to assume that she wants a man she feels "less than"? That's my sticking point here - you guys are misunderstanding me. It's not me thinking I have to/want to boss my man around - it's me balking at …
/r/askMRP09/12/15 04:23 PM
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you are stuck in a world where the masculine is worth more to YOU than the feminine. I dont't think that - what I see is that RP thinks that. It's built into the ideology. Am I wrong? Try this on: "men don't respect women."
/r/askMRP09/12/15 04:15 PM
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I'm not going to delete them. u/strategos_autokrator is wrong about my motivations, but it doesn't matter. I want to work on my marriage. If the ladies at RPW could have answered the hard questions I posed it would have been helpful.
/r/askMRP09/12/15 03:16 PM
1

Yep, could be. :-)
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 05:26 AM
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You seem not to grasp that he's not "fine" Where'd you get that? It's right in my OP - "we are both unhappy"
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 05:10 AM
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OK. He won't feel respected unless I both admire and defer to him. Is it fair to say, then, that a husband cannot/should not respect his wife?
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 05:06 AM
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I don't know. That's why I'm here.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:55 AM
1

I understand your questions but they are not really for me fair enough
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:54 AM
1

But now he should be on top? If he was unhappy when it was imbalanced, won't I be unhappy?
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:46 AM
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I don't really think either of us necessarily should be captain - can't we share the work and decision making, the way co-workers do? I work on a project, my co-worker works on a project, sometimes we decide shit together. If we disagree, whoever can make the best argument or knows more gets to decide, or we call in an expert. It does feel unfair, too. "Man as captain" assumes the man has innate abilities that the woman doesn't - not just being physically stronger, etc., the biological differenc…
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:45 AM
2

OK - but you aren't really responding to me, here. RP is the one saying that someone has to run the show. It may sound to you like I want to run the show, but what I'm really saying is - let's him and me run the show together. I haven't been happy doing all this work.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:37 AM
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Why is it better for him to make the final decision? What you need to ask yourself is this, is it possibly worth your marriage so you can be the captain? To me this seems a false dichotomy. And I never said I wanted to be captain - I just said it makes no sense to me that there has to be a captain, and it has to be him no matter what.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:28 AM
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This isn't about one-up-manship for me. RP is setting up the hierarchy here, not me. I don't feel good about deliberately setting up a relationship where one individual is considered more important or valuable than the other - whether that's him or me.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:25 AM
2

Experience and a record of good decision making/successful mission outcomes? From what I've read, it looks like RP says that all men are captains by virtue of being men. Some are "Drunk Captains" but penis always = captain.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 03:20 AM
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I'm not framing it as a competition - RP is doing that with the concept of hypergamy. "As a woman I want X man because he is smarter/stronger/better than me, and that's what I (supposedly) need to be happy." I think it isn't completely irrational to read that as "I want to feel less smart/strong/good relative to my husband." I am just trying to explain RP tenets I understand that. I hope you don't feel like I'm attacking you. I'm trying to ask all these questions/hash out these arguments becsuse…
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 12:58 AM
1

What did the Laura Doyle book recommend? I'll write a little on this later - I don't have access to the book at th moment.
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 12:25 AM
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I understand what you're saying, but I meant respect as in "wow, this person is really smart/wise/dedicated/good at this thing and I value and admire that." If a woman thinks she is better and more capable than her man, she can't respect him Does this apply to all areas? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you are saying that in order for a woman to truly love her husband, she has to consider herself to be worth less than him. That sounds like madness to me. Why would anyone want to live…
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/15 12:12 AM
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I've heard the whole "equilibrium not equality" argument. The problem with that is it's assuming a very literal definition of equal. I know men and women are different. Moving a sofa? He can do it, not me. If one of us had to wrestle a bear? My money would be on him. Need to breastfeed a baby? I did that. Deciding where our money should be invested? Not a male/female issue. Equal means of equal value. Not "exactly the same."
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/15 11:22 PM
5

She is misapplying the concept of respect as she is new to RP concepts. Could you explain it to me, please?
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/15 11:17 PM
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you speak of him with complete and utter disdain Hyperbole aside, what you and others are sensing here is my hurt and frustration, right now, in response to him misapplying "dread." Has it undermined my trust in him? You bet.
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/15 09:40 PM
5

Lol you don't get it.
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/15 06:53 PM
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Nothing in RPW says that men/SOs should defer to their women. At all. Mods, please back me up, if otherwise. You misunderstood me. I said RP suggests that he does not ever defer to me. My question was if not deferring = not respecting, then where does that leave the woman? He's putting in work however he can to step up to the plate and you're looking down at him at every turn. Where are you getting that information? Stop treating him he's your child, or subordinate. I don't want to treat him tha…
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/15 06:46 PM
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Why don't you respect him enough to defer? I have always respected him. His recent behavior is undermining that. I don't get why not deferring to him would mean I don't? If he doesn't defer to me, as RP suggests, does it mean he doesn't respect me? I think whoever knows more about a subject, or whoever cares more, should be the one to make a final decision. That ensures the best decision is made. Frankly, I know more about practical things than my husband does. Part of it is that I have more exp…
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/15 06:13 PM
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What a terrible situation for your girlfriend. Is she in any kind of therapy? I agree with others who have said that you can't "fix" or "save" her, but you can help by encouraging her to see a therapist and to take time to focus on herself and her needs. You can do that whether you remain her bf or not. It sounds like she spends all her time trying to fulfill other's needs and expectations - especially her mother's, but yours as well - and she needs to learn to take care of herself first. You ca…
/r/askMRP04/12/15 05:29 PM
1

do you check out other women? Can I ask - are you saying he should do this so his wife notices? My husband has has done that and I've wondered if it is technically part of "dread game" or what. (I don't find it attractive, so I'm confused as to the purpose of it, if there is one.)
/r/askMRP03/12/15 04:31 PM
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What is her relationship like with her parents? I'm wondering if she has resentment toward them that is spilling over onto you. Otherwise, I'm really confused why a woman would be so pissed off at her man for helping her elderly parents. Wouldn't moving heavy stuff around when other people can't do it be an alpha thing ?
/r/askMRP01/12/15 05:12 PM
2

In this context, I disagree.
/r/askMRP29/11/15 02:38 PM
3

Go ahead, tell them they can't have what they want in bed.
/r/askMRP29/11/15 06:04 AM
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wondering how to maintain long term relationship and engage in fetish from time to time. I think your best bet might be a switch arrangement where you're the dom most of the time, and then occasionally you "allow" her to be on top. I agree with u/Sepean that the BDSM community could give you some ideas on how to pull it off.
/r/askMRP29/11/15 05:15 AM
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Absolutely not true. It depends on the individuals and their attitudes.
/r/askMRP29/11/15 05:11 AM
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There are other ways to get off, you know.
/r/askMRP25/11/15 06:28 PM
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howd you like to be married to a guy with a limp dick? If he had a limp dick because he'd permanently damaged himself giving me multiple, huge, healthy babies? I wouldn't be happy about it, but I wouldn't play the suffering martyr either.
/r/askMRP25/11/15 05:28 PM
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You should see a doctor about that.
/r/askMRP25/11/15 01:40 PM
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patting her on the head, telling her she is a good girl That sounds kinda disrespectful to me, but if she likes it then it doesn't matter. You have a whole lot more influence if you choose to use your power as a woman with a loving husband than you would as an exasperated harridan with a honeydo list. This makes complete sense.
/r/askMRP25/11/15 05:04 AM
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Still, you're bitter about her "wizard sleeve," as you so colorfully put it.
/r/askMRP25/11/15 12:01 AM
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I've heard it's the busiest time for cops, too. Weird!
/r/askMRP24/11/15 11:17 PM
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Seriously - what does FGHOW mean?
/r/askMRP24/11/15 11:14 PM
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None of that was in the post I saw. Certainly not the part about asking your wife whether she wanted to do it. But, whatever. I'm wondering why the dr didn't just schedule c-sections after the first huge baby to prevent the tearing, which is, coincidentally, a lot like fucking a pineapple and can cause serious, permanent damage. I feel bad for your wife that she had to go through that.
/r/askMRP24/11/15 10:54 PM
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FGHOW Fucking Gross Hairy Old Walrus?
/r/askMRP24/11/15 09:59 PM
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Lol - you said it, not me!
/r/askMRP24/11/15 09:46 PM
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Is there a full moon this week? Yes, actually - Tomorrow night (Nov 25) :-)
/r/askMRP24/11/15 09:31 PM
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Be a man...read books about quantum physics. OMG...I'm a man!
/r/askMRP24/11/15 09:28 PM
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"suck it up, buttercup." That's a really shitty attitude, and I agree that it's pretty common. But there are no unicorns, and the truth of that statement often doesn't reveal itself until years into a long-term relationship I see what you're saying. I think this is a problem for both men and women - though I recognize that MRP is only concerned with the male side.
/r/askMRP24/11/15 02:57 PM
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Good point.
/r/askMRP24/11/15 02:38 PM
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You're right - as a girl I picked up the message that "most boys just want to get into your pants, and they'll break your heart, so be careful." But I also learned "some day you'll meet your true love soulmate who is looking for something more and sees your inner beauty." I always assumed that boys were taught thus - "most girls are only good for sex, so don't get attached and rack up as many as you can. And then brag about it." That's basically the TRP sub right there. Of course I will warn my …
/r/askMRP24/11/15 05:43 AM
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Women can be evil bitches, Yep - junior high taught me all I needed to know about that. you've just been lucky because you don't have to date em Thank God! Our OP proves that all men are perfect unicorn stallions. ;-)
/r/askMRP24/11/15 03:16 AM
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Not sure if they exist. This makes me think of those stories about the guy waking up in a bathtub full of ice to find his kidneys had been stolen.
/r/askMRP24/11/15 03:08 AM
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We're just confident, fit and fun men to be around. I think there's a big difference between a wife who's happy if her husband is that way, and a wife who's a monster to him if he's not. It sounds like you guys are dealing with the latter.
/r/askMRP24/11/15 12:04 AM
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See, I read these AWALT statements and they just sound crazy to me, even if they are just warnings or "heuristics," as someone called them. It's like if I said to other women "men only think with their dicks and they'll drop you for a younger woman as soon as you hit 30. They're incapable of love - AMALT." It wouldn't occur to me to say that. Although maybe if it had actually happened to me I would. I don't know. I have empathy for you guys on MRP, but I just can't muster it for the angry TRP ed…
/r/askMRP23/11/15 11:48 PM
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My wife has already done things almost on par with that That's terrible. Even if you were "displaying too many beta behaviors." :-( Edit: I put that in quotes not to be derisive but to point out that you shouldn't have to be "alpha" to be treated decently by your wife.
/r/askMRP23/11/15 11:06 PM
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With any luck the meds will help her to recognize her situation and get out. We can only hope! Jeez, what an asshole this guy is (if he's not a troll, which I think he must be). My vasectomy comment was in response to some TRP manbaby who came here to agree with the "secretly ask OB to stitch up my wife" concept, and then ran away.
/r/askMRP23/11/15 10:40 PM
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Aw, u/Alpha_n3rd made a delightful comment here that I wanted to reply to, but then I guess he got scared because he deleted it. Here's what I was going to say, just in case he's still around: What if you went in for a vasectomy and your wife took the doctor aside and asked him to make some "alterations" to your dick while he was there? No big deal, right?
/r/askMRP23/11/15 10:09 PM
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she was extremely disrespectful to make the decisions that she did by herself. He thought her enduring a few weeks of discomfort would be a just dessert and an appropriate lesson You've got to be a troll! I can't believe a doctor would say that, for one thing. But, just in case you really are this big of a piece of shit - IT'S NOT UP TO YOU far less dangerous than her gaining another 20 lbs if she were to slowly discontinue taking the pills. You know very little about how these meds work, obviou…
/r/askMRP23/11/15 08:35 PM
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For some reason, that brought tears. This shit is hard.
/r/askMRP23/11/15 07:49 PM
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"true love" is an active, conscious and continuous CHOICE, not a compulsion. I know you're right, but part of me feels really sad about that - girls get sold the Disney lie, too, and some fall for it hard. I want my Prince Charming soul mate. Women aren't really as opportunistic as RP likes to make it seem.
/r/askMRP23/11/15 06:34 PM
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Yeah, great except for the being treated like a child and not making decisions part. I guess I'll learn to love that, eventually. other women love being around him I'm not a subscriber to the "Female Social Matrix," so those other bitches better keep their eyes and mitts off my man.
/r/askMRP23/11/15 06:28 PM
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Yep - it was a quick read! I should get out of here now...it's the locker room.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/15 09:51 PM
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ouch (on behalf of your wife) Don't let me down, BPP!
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/15 07:50 PM
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Sounds like she's been under a lot of stress and isn't handling it well. Anyway, I would echo what some others have said here and say that if she really is trying to initiate a D/s relationship with you, you need to sort out how it's going to work, set a safe word, etc. Does she want to be on the top or bottom would be an important question to ask. Looking at her behavior, there's the potential for things to get ugly for both of you, so I think you guys need to set some clear ground rules.
/r/askMRP23/10/15 06:12 PM
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Based on her behavior, I do still suspect she's got some heavy stuff going on that isn't being addressed.
/r/askMRP23/10/15 05:15 PM
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Hi - it was my comment. I got banned, but now I'm back! :-) All I said was that, based on the level of aggression (actually hurting you and saying what she said) it sounded to me like she was acting out on some emotional turmoil regarding your sex life, rather than asking to be dominated. I think most women would have gone in a sexier, less crazy direction, but maybe your wife just has her own way of expressing herself. I hope it continues to go well for you guys.
/r/askMRP23/10/15 04:45 PM
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nope
/r/ExRedPill15/10/15 02:28 PM
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That's a very good point - I would have left him for a "Chad" long ago if that's what I wanted. Thanks.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/15 09:37 PM
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It's good to hear you were able to find a way out! I think having another man talk to him could be really good.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/15 06:33 PM
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Thank you for this! Your perspective and encouragement is really helpful. I'm trying to understand why he's doing what he's doing, and although it hurts I don't think he is actually trying to hurt me. Like you said, I think he believes he is doing what he needs to do to be happy and make our relationship better. Hopefully, like you, he will eventually realize that it's having the opposite effect.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/15 05:55 PM
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I imagine that could work - it may come to that. Thanks.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/15 04:35 AM
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I think he is trying to gain more control of his life in general, and lumping me in with all the rest of it unnecessarily. I will give this some more thought, though. Thanks.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/15 04:33 AM
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I see what you mean, and I will keep it in mind. I'm still hoping he will come around if he realizes he's making things worse instead of better for himself.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/15 04:29 AM
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Fair enough. :-)
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 10:49 PM
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Thanks for your comment - That is good advice. I would love for him to go to therapy, and I'd go with him if he wanted that. He's never been, and I'm certain he has a lot of stuff going on psychologically, some of which I know about and obviously some I don't. He doesn't have any positive male role models in his life and talking to a male therapist could be very good for him. Do you have any ideas on how best to bring the topic up with him? I think it might be a hard sell.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 10:36 PM
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I will give it a try. The hardest part will be not getting overly emotional because it hurts, obviously. :-/
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 08:19 PM
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Just read your edit- I think you are right. I should address each issue as it comes up instead of jumping to conclusions or trying to take on the whole monolithic belief system. Thanks again, I appreciate your advice.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 08:12 PM
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Thanks for your reply! Yes, I did ask him directly what was going on that he felt needed to change, if there was something he needed from me that he wasn't getting, etc. He gave me vague answers. I don't think he wants to talk about how he's been feeling, because that's another red pill tenet. Talking about your feelings makes you too beta. You've got to be a rock, or an oak, or a brick wall, or whatever... Anyway, I think it boils down to how he has felt insecure and socially awkward, especiall…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/15 08:00 PM
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