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How was this "inc*l content"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:00 PM
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Pal, for a good long while most men didn't even have offspring, let alone constantly cheating on their wives. We all have about 2.5 times as many female ancestors than male ancestors because for a very long time, anywhere around 2/3rd of men never even reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:07 AM
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1I mean gender critical, troll x, pinkpill, fds, circle broke2 and a bunch of other hate subs haven't been quarantined so reddit's bias should be pretty obvious. Same thing with the "against men's rights" sub. Troll x literally had a post that was a meme of "men are trash" and then the post had a bunch of comments deleted for "concern trolling". Trufemcels is also a hate sub but, hey it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:45 PM
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Lol men aren't the gatekeepers of relationships, I don't know why we keep bringing this redpill/mgtard fallacy up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:12 PM
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Yup, I keep telling people that women are the commitmentphobes in this day and age, not men. It's just that the men who want commitment and or a relationship are viewed as being low tier and they know these same men will probably still want a relationship when they're in their mid 30s so, there's no sense of urgency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:11 PM
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It's literally the opposite, men want relationships more than women and women are the ones avoiding relationships, monogamy and or commitment like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:07 PM
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Settling is a pejorative to women so many would rather stay single than be with a guy that doesn't increase their social value. Most men on the other hand would settle for most women because having damn near any woman increases a man's status because both men and women dislike a man north of 25 who doesn't have a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:14 PM
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No, what's changed is that many women are simply not interested. Many women simply do not value relationships, monogamy, marriage and or men in general. Many women don't want men, they don't need men. Women aren't chasing or competing for men, they're chasing and or competing for careers and degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:54 PM
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10 years ago was a long time in the past. Women are not chasing after or competing for average men. Also, women by far have the most skewed view of what an average man is. Women's perception of what average is, is not actually average. A guy like this is not going to be Chad, you're being absurd but then again your comparing things to 10 years ago. Things have changed immensely since 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:43 PM
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Lol no there isn't. I'm not saying that normal men are going to all be forever alone incel types but, women aren't going to be chasing and competing for some 5'9" guy with an average face who makes $46k a year. Tinder, POF, Eharmony and Match are filled with average men who even have to resort to dating women who have two kids from two different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:03 PM
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There's zero competition for most men. Women aren't competing for shit. Most men have little to no value in the eyes of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:52 PM
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Most of reddit is sexist towards women in a assbackwards way. The male feminist woke types are the most sexist which I'd hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:19 PM
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It's called gynocentricism and women having unearned power and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:18 PM
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The ones that claim that men are checking out of dating and relationships for video games are nothing but lies and are a total psyop. Women are the ones checking out of relationships and the ones who are not interested in dating or men. Women are the ones going wgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:13 AM
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Yeah but, he's a "hot friend". If he wasn't hot you'd think he was a "creep" for using the same form of tact or that he was a "nice guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:47 PM
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Not sure what that has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:54 PM
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Women don't like direct honesty about damn near anything. Many are incredibly passive aggressive and don't like directness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:41 PM
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Ahh just because they "felt" manipulated or abused doesn't mean they were. Feelings aren't always accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:33 AM
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No, they literally are feminist They believe in and affiliate with feminist ideology therefore, they are feminist. They're not doing it to suck up to women, that's more of a Redpill/mgtard insult. They're doing it because they probably honestly believe that women and society like and respect a weak, simpleton of a man who places women on pedestals and worships them. They've been brainwashed into thinking their Male feminism is what's the best for women because the male feminist is the most gynoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:44 AM
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That's not just reddit omegas, that's literally most men. Most men don't see settling as a pejorative the same way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:35 AM
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Maybe that's what they talk about because they know that's what the most important attributes when it comes to dating/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:26 AM
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Because they're in denial and they also strongly believe in the "just world fallacy" as well as internal locus of control. If some guy has trouble getting intimacy in his life, then it must be 100% his fault and 100% within his control.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:24 AM
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I don't think these guys are pretending to be sympathetic. These guys just listen to nonsense women say they want instead of judging them off of their actions. These guys have also swallowed the women are wonderful thing hook line and sinker. They honestly believe that women like soft, weak men that worship them and are woke to nonsense such as the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:13 AM
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I'm a man, not a lady. So you're telling me that these women have men in their own age group pining for them? How awful! Of course they're not going to be as hot as 20 something women, same applies for men. Men around 50 won't be as attractive as they were when they were in their 20s. Also $34k to $68k a year is not anywhere near sugar daddy territory where you're making enough to just attract women with your wealth. No offense pal but, you'd have to be incredibly delusional to think that men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:45 PM
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No, women have unearned power and privilege and will always be valued more than men. I know women who are average looking and around their 50s and still have men trying to woe them. The wall is nothing more than a mgtard/Redpill coping mechanism. Men are the ones who hit the wall. If you're an unattractive guy or average guy and you've gotten to your later 20s or early 30s and all you're making is $34k to $68k which is what most men make, then you've hit the wall. If you're choosing to go "mgtow…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:06 PM
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That's most women's dating/relationship problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:41 AM
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Tomassi and most of these Redpill dinosaurs are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:21 AM
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Rollo Tomassi is an imbecile. He's a frail older dude who's so embarrassed that he's balding so he always wears a hat no matter what. The guy is also built like skelator, looks like a stiff wind could knock him over but yet he wants me to think he's some big dick swinging alpha stud.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:36 PM
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Women's standards aren't even high, the difference lies in the fact that most men don't even have much of any standards to begin with. Most men have preferences, women have standards and preferences. Most men are just happy to have a woman I'm general because then they will attain the social validation and admiration that comes with being a man who has a woman in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:21 PM
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Here we go again.... with the whole femcel viewpoints. Back in the day, PEOPLE use to view low tier humans as literal property, this wasn't exclusively a woman's burden. Slavery, indentured servitude so on and so forth. If you weren't a man of value or a woman of value then you were viewed as trash and probably died working yourself to death. Most men never even reproduced, shit when you're hungry and working yourself to death, I doubt getting a girlfriend was even much of a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:02 PM
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Women are picked because they have all the unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships. Being a woman in dating scene is like being born into a family of millionaires or billionaires. Women have to really screw up for things not to go their way. Men are desperate because both men and women perpetuate a society that views men who cannot attract a woman for a relationship as being low tier and intrinsically awful people. Therefore men jockey to attract a woman, almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:52 PM
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The whole mgtard, redpill crap damn near only exists on the interweb. It's a joke, they do not fill up the dating market. The dating market is filled with primarily sub low tier men that probably pedestalize and worship women. Also, I cannot stand the mgtards but, this is one thing I don't blame them on. Most millennial women are not marriage material. A good chunk of them outright reject family values and being held to much of any standards. Why should they honor them with the title of "wife"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:32 PM
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Men talk the talk but rarely ever walk the walk. Men always claim that they wouldn't get into a relationship with a woman who's fat, a woman who's slept around with the whole neighbor, a woman who's a single mother but, when push comes to shove I always end up seeing them dating the types of women they claimed they never would. You need to realize that all the talk you hear from men is just to come across as cooler and higher status than they actually are. Those are those men's preferences but, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:57 PM
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A lot of "normal" men have serious problems when it comes to attracting a woman, most "normal" women don't because women have unearned power and privilege which implies that a "normal" woman will be valued more than a normal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:49 PM
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Lol women are not more empathetic, it's social posturing and virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 08:25 PM
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Yes, yes they are. Most men really are attracted to most women. Men's standards are either non existent, incredibly low or incredibly reasonable. Even the tall, in shape guys in my group of friends who are doing fine financially are in long term relationships with chunky average faced women. This is why I'm so fascinated by the "truefemcel" sub. What did these women do in their late teens and 20s? Did they ever take the initiative to ask men out, approach them, get to know them? Or did they reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 08:08 PM
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I've never been a alcoholic but, I just don't enjoy drinking much at all in general and now that I've neared the later parts of my 20s, not wanting to drink really does affect your social life. Bars are the go to spot when it comes to much of any social invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 09:42 PM
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Your femcel rants are always so entertaining and humorous to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:07 AM
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Best response yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:06 PM
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It's called rate of return (ROR). You cannot expect men to keep putting in a lot of effort into something that doesn't hold much of a net benefit to them. Working out everyday, reading books and listening to podcasts in my spare time do have a guaranteed rate of return. I know I'll enjoy those activities. Besides, I work over 40 hours a week typically and I also have sick parents too look after and support financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:03 PM
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Ahh I wouldn't say I want "Stacy". I'm pretty flexible when it comes to a woman's looks. I've only ever been in two relationships. One was with a real tall skinny woman, she was about my height 5'9" and the other was with a real short woman, probably about 5'1" and she was chunky. I've only ever come across three women interested and I only rejected one of them. I wouldn't say going about looking for "Stacey" whatever the hell that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:55 PM
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Nahh, most of them are wannabe sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:52 PM
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I wouldn't say I argued with them. I got to know many of them. They weren't even necessarily bad people, they were just spoiled and ignorant. They were victims of an overly privileged, soft and sheltered upbringing. If I had two parents who both made north of $80k each and grew up in a metropolitan area, I'd probably be just like them. One of the women I got know, I even started going to feminist alliance club meetings with her on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 01:40 PM
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It depends on your area, I grew up real poor, busted my ass off graduating with honors from a community college, transferred to a super liberal private university and was in for a culture shock. That university was primarily champagne/limousine liberals and feminists. The types that you would see un Jezebel or on Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 01:05 PM
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Since redditors and youtubers turned it into a slur used against men they don't like. It's sort of lost all meaning
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/19 01:02 PM
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All those men you listed are incredibly attractive for their age groups. Those men are around their 40s and 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:57 PM
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You can't even mention gynocentricism. Your comment becomes automatically removed. That sub is awful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/19 07:07 PM
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The nice guys, neckbeards and inceltears are all hate subs. It's just acceptable to hate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/19 12:56 AM
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No, they aren't being subjugated in anyway exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 10:45 PM
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Nah, she'd probably still fine. I've only ever been in two relationships, one was with a real tall and skinny woman she was probably about my height 5'9" and then the other was a woman who was real short and kind of heavy. I found both of them attractive, I'm pretty flexible with my taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:29 PM
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I think people also forget the fact that just because someone is in real good physical shape, doesn't mean they're good looking. I've been working out almost every day for over a decade, had a resting heart rate of 45 when I woke up this morning, I'm an excellent physical shape but, I'm not necessarily good looking. Same applies for fat people, one of my coworkers is fat but, the way she does make up and dresses it off, she still looks very pretty. Same thing with one of my buddies, he's fat but…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:02 PM
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There's not as much men can do, most of the beauty standards imposed on men are genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:04 PM
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Exactly, an unattractive man acknowledging that he's unattractive makes him even more undesirable. Society wants men to convey a relentless confidence or they're viewed as being low tier and demur.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:04 PM
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A little of column A, a little of column B. Some men rate themselves more attractive than they are but, most women rate men well below what they actually are because women's unearned power and privilege in sex, dating and relationships causes them to view men who are their equals to be below them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:04 PM
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Yeah, men are doing exactly what people tell them to do which is, find something else to do with your life if the romance thing becomes increasingly less likely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:12 PM
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There isn't a rise in low value men, it's just women have no longer have much of any societal/cultural restraints that mitigate them from weaponizing their unearned power and privilege. I don't know where you're from but, in the USA most men are going to about 5'6" to 5'11" and make around $36k to $64k a year and also be fairly average when it comes to their physical looks. These guys aren't "low value", it's just that since women are told and promoted to weaponize their unearned power and privi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:02 PM
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They get the passion out of their system in their prior relationships throughout their teens and early 20s. Unfortunately, men who weren't born with the privilege of being attractive or coming from wealth spend a good chunk of their time going on an endless journey of self-improvement. These men still want the "passion" but, soon realize that is not what the women in their age group/dating pool want so, they settle for whatever they can get so they don't get judged as being an inkel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:47 PM
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No ones problems are always only caused by them. There's always aspects of life that we have little control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 01:03 AM
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She was kind of drunk and smelled like stale Coors light and she approached me after one of my friends rejected her for sex. I rarely get vehemently disgusted by a woman but, this woman was the stereotype of a gross drunk whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:56 PM
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You'd be surprised, one would hope they would raise them for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:51 PM
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Plenty of men date ugly girls. If many men are willing to fuck you then plenty of them are willing to date you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:44 PM
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Low value women are always higher than their low value male counterparts. Remember, a woman who's a 5/10 is the equivalent of a man who's a 7 or 8 /10. It's a part of women's unearned power and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:43 PM
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Because if most men did have options they would probably be just as selective but, they're not born with that privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:33 AM
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No it's not meaningless. Men don't have the ability to be "more selective" even if they are or want to be because most men don't have much of any options they way women do. Men also generally don't have women approaching them or have women giving them their numbers. Women are the ones in the position of power and privilege when it comes to sex/dating/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 05:10 AM
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Men are just as selective as women if not more but, truth is that most men don't have the ability to be selective. Most men just take whatever they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 12:36 AM
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Most men aren't saying that though, same with op's initial question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 12:35 AM
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Depends on whether you consider a "negative view" to be a realistic view or not. I've always had many female friends on and off in my life. I also work with almost only women. Getting to know and being friends with women on a platonic level only furthered solidified my views. Being close friends with women who are going to be honest with you about things should only further your realistic understanding of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 05:42 PM
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I don't keep myself locked in rigid gender roles, I just am masculine whether I like it or not. I'm muscular, have my hair buzzed off because I'm balding and I always have a beard or scruff. I also ended up being the "man of the house" growing up from my early teens and still to this very day, my mother looks to me for support on many different things. Like I said, I never had to try to be masculine, I just ended up that because of genetics and life circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 02:29 AM
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Yeah pretty much, I don't try to be masculine, I just ended up being very masculine. I've been working out almost everyday for over a decade so I'm muscular, I buzz my hair off every few days because my hairline is receding and I always have scruff or a beard. I just am masculine, I don't try to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 02:24 AM
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Most women are attracted to masculinity but, just because you're masculine doesn't mean you're automatically desirable. I'm very masculine but, I'm not necessarily good looking or above average looking so, just relying on my masculinity alone would be kind of ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 01:47 AM
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I couldn't either but, that's how dating is now a days. That's why I find it ridiculous when people on this sub are acting as if men aren't constantly being judged on their looks as well. People meet, woman decides if he's attractive enough to have sex with, they have sex. Woman decides if he's attractive enough to get into a relationship with, they get into a relationship. Woman decides he's worth staying with, they go steady, if not she monkey branches to another guy or to one of her options. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:38 AM
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Women's opinions of what an average or ugly man is will be skewed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:22 AM
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People on reddit are in such denial about this sort of stuff. They're either in denial or are being intellectually dishonest. Ask anyone out in the real world and they will admit that real ugly dudes have it the worse but on reddit, everyone acts like obvious observable parts of life aren't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:20 AM
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It's not geared towards casual sex at least the women I know fuck men they meet online and eventually date them. That's how dating is now a days.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:16 AM
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Yes, same applies for women. Many women I know that I would place as being high worth but, I don't want to bang them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:47 PM
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Because women do the same thing but, many people are in denial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:41 PM
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Like I said, this isn't a "women problem" it's a societal problem. Even if a guy makes a good living, if he's butt ugly then people associate negative traits with him. It's a form of unspoken prejudice. People assume said person is bad because said person is ugly. I don't know why people assume men aren't constantly judged for their looks as well. The judgement people place on men's looks is significantly worse because they're typically all genetic/racial and or ethnic. A short balding bloke who…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:40 PM
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Because it's a form of universally agreed upon prejudice. Said person is bad because said person is not cute enough. Let's associate negative traits with said person because they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:34 PM
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Ahh I don't think this is a woman issue, if a guy is ugly and makes less than probably $50k a year he's viewed as worthless in my neck of the woods as well. It's a societal problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:12 PM
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It means that they care about women and their issues. Just because you don't want to believe various things doesn't mean they're not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:08 PM
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They do, look at the legions of men who showed up to the women's march to support women and women's causes. Look at all the genuine male feminist out there. Men substantialy care more about women than women care about men. Men love women Women love women Society loves women That leaves men in a shitty situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 05:21 PM
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She's attractive and the guy looks just fine too. I don't know what planet you're living on that you think they're an ugly couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:48 AM
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Oh it's a real thing, I agree with you on that but, it's a stupid thing to complain about. I work a job that would be considered "mental labor" and good grief am I blessed to work this job. I know a lot of men who have worked in the trades and or other very physically taxing and laborious jobs and good grief a lot of these men's bodies are fucked up by the time they get into their late 50s or so. My best friend's dad would be a perfect example of this, he's 59 and has been a union laborer since …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:32 AM
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mental labor lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:10 AM
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Meh, a lot of those attempts are without the intention of actual suicide. That's why mental health professionals came up with a term called "suicidal gestures" because taking seven Tylenols isn't much of a suicide attempt. Same with superficial cutting. Suicide isn't rocket science, if someone wants to take their life, they will do it. The whole "women attempt suicide more" thing is just textbook female histrionic or borderline attention seeking behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:09 AM
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I assert that women were never EXCLUSIVELY oppressed. People on reddit always make seem like women had it rough and men just walked about with their male privilege card as if it was some get out of jail card or something. Men on the bottom have probably always had it the worse because they weren't even biologically valuable. There were nothing more than human farming/mining equipment. At least women on the bottom had the trump card of being able to have children which gave them some intrinsic va…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:07 PM
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Nope, that's not the case at all. I hold men to the same standards. I don't feel too bad for some 45 year old millionaire who marries some 24 year old Instagram model because she's hot and then bitches and moans about "muh divorce rape" like some mgtard when she takes him to the cleaners. People need to make better choices and quit passing the buck. I've even seen women I'm friends with make poor choices on purpose. A woman I'm friends with that has her MBA and is average looking has done the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:53 AM
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And unless you're a regular man, then you don't know what it's like to not be born with unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships. Take accountability for your decisions and quit whining when you're so privileged to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:43 AM
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It's a skill I have, you don't know me and it's a skill I use regularly at my job. You need to realize though that a woman expecting empathy from men when it comes to dating would be like a millionaire expecting empathy from someone who makes $50k a year for his financial issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:41 AM
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That's irrevalent, women have damn near all the unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships therefore they should take the majority of the accountability and blame. I think that's pretty fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:53 AM
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Sorry, I still cannot emphasize much for them when it comes to this situation. If you feel that all your options are shitty then just stay single for the rest of your life. Having options whether good or bad is still validating and reinforcing. Many men don't have that privilege. Since women have damn near all the unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships then they should take majority of the accountability. Most men take what they can get. Most women choose wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:51 AM
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I mean, I sort of agree with you. I don't feel bad for some average looking 40 something millionaire dude who marries some instagram whore and then has to pay her $20 million in divorce. No one made you marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:33 AM
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It is incredibly unlikely for all her options to be shitty. If you have a lot of options and you think they're all shitty odds are your standards are too high. Unless the woman is Ivanka Trump or something, it is sooooo unlikely that all her options are shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:31 AM
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No he's right. Women really take their unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships for granted. If you have so much disproportionate power in the dating realm and you're still fucking up and choosing poorly then it's all on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:29 AM
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Yup, like I've said before, a man and a woman who are both 5/10 with a bachelors level education and both making $50k a year are equal on paper but out in the real world that same 5/10 woman is going to be viewed as being equal to a 7or8/10 man. It's just the way it is and it won't change and may even get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:27 AM
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No, they're getting passed over because women know that they are regular dudes and that there are millions of them in the palm of their hand through their smartphone apps. Also, women have more innate value than men. A 4/10 woman is viewed as the equivalent of a 6/10 man and since women rate most men as being below average those guys who endeavor to go after women who are a 5 and below will have it rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:37 AM
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Most men are just that, they're like most men. Some average looking or slightly below average looking dude that has a decent gym body or average build that is about 5'7" to 5'11" and makes around $36k to $62k are too plentiful and abundant. It's not that these men are "undesirable" to women, it's that women know they could get into a relationship with these whenever the hell they want. With tinder, bumble, pof, match, eharmoney, so on and so forth, dating for women is like shopping on amazon. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:34 AM
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Most men worry about themselves and chase after normal women. You say that like it's a good thing, being selfish is not good and chasing after women is also not good. Piss poor values You're also acting like it's the crackhead Sally's of the world who behave in a conflicting and contradictory way. It's most women, I've known women with MBAs who function well that do this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:40 PM
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What on earth are you on about.. You're really going off into the weeds now I never stated that you should become a dysfunctional man. Also, most women in this society are pretty dysfunctional because they are the primary enablers and positive reinforcers of bad traits in the opposite sex. Not only are nice guys not nice, they don't listen to good advice You just want to keep supporting your bias, like I said. It's the mystification of everything so you can keep coping with your train and though…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:34 PM
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No one is under that notion though besides those menslib Male feminist types. The last paragraph is going off into the weeds..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:20 PM
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You're going off into weeds.. You can care about more than one thing. Many men are picking up trends and contradictions Traits X y z are bad I'm going positively reinforce traits X y z through my actions and behaviors. Then try to misrepresent and mystify the whole thing so you can cope with your cognitive dissonance. It's not about wanting to have sex with these women, it's about caring about other people and seeing them make poor decisions and then claim that those poor decisions conflict with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:19 PM
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Obsessing and caring aren't the same thing though. I already stated why people should care about one another earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:04 PM
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No one is obsessing over that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:33 PM
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Everything we do says something about our values and motives. Men and women's sex lives are no different. Many people don't want to be held to any sort of standards which is where the, "I can do what I want and you can't judge me for it" mentality comes from. Our values are a part of our identity that we establish and people who behave in manners that conflict with their values probably have a poor sense of identity and that says even more about them psychologically. We care about what others do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:16 PM
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Most nice guys are unattractive assholes. We'll have to agree to disagree then. I would conceptualize the "niceguy" as guys who haven't realized that niceness, kindness and goodness are not attributes that are valued by women. Just because a man is nice, kind and an overall good person doesn't mean that he rates high in looks, money and status. I'm kind, caring and nice to my family, friends, neighbors and coworkers not because I'm some secret unattractive asshole, it's because kindness and nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:42 PM
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They're vindictive towards them because incels are on the bottom of the dominant male hierarchy and women want to keep them there. It's interesting, many women will claim that the dominant male hierarchy is patriarchal and oppressive but, they will still rank and rate men based off of that hierarchy. Once again, women reward, enable and positively reinforce the very thing they claim is bad and that they are against.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:25 PM
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Yup, a lot of people's behavior is conditioned by positive or negative reinforcement, most incels have probably never received much of any positive reinforcement when it comes to their interactions with others and especially interactions with the opposite sex, they were never properly socially oriented to begin with and I guarantee you that many have issues with prior unresolved trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:21 PM
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Like I said, then I don't want to hear bitching and moaning about "niceguys", "incels" and "fuckbois". Same goes for dumb ass guys who will carry on about how women are x,y,z and then pay some shitty woman money so they can view her Patreon nudes. People are so resistant to accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:52 PM
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It's stressful because it's making you contemplate and think about your actions, choices and behaviors. You were the one making the claim that OP was always shitty, I challenged the claim. That is all. There are certain aspects of life that women will still refuse to take accountability for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:49 PM
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You're not entitled to me or any woman just something good. The reddit trump card, no one is saying but it's always injected into this anyways. There is a but, no complaints about misogyny, shitty men or incels nice guys whatever you want to call it if you're going to positively reinforce what's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:46 PM
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Women aren't trophies, no one is saying that. Relationships, intimacy and closeness with another fucking human being is viewed as positive reinforcement. You're going off into the weeds and having trouble understanding what I'm saying but, you are essentially supporting what OP is saying in that shitty personalities and misogyny has nothing to do with men who struggle to attain intimacy. Women don't necessarily view those as deal breakers, therefore it is all about looks, money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:33 PM
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Yes, they can screw who they like but, therefore they should never complain about shitty abusive men, never complain about misogynistic men, never complain about how bad incels, niceguys and fuck bois are. If they want to keep rewarding, enabling and positively reinforcing shittyness then people need to stop with the whole hur dur, "if only those inkels bettered their personalities and stopped being misogynistic they would have a significant other".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:30 PM
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Wow, you honestly feel that women should take no accountability for perpetuating, enabling, rewarding and positively reinforcing shitty abusive and misogynistic men? You're seriously blaming those men's "actions" and acting like people who reward and further enable those actions should take no blame? Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:27 PM
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Elliot Rodgers was severely mentally ill, not even in just a "I have anxiety" reddit type of mental illness but, he was severely mentally ill. His medical records or so were leaked by the press a while ago and the guy was on a shit ton of antipsychotics. I don't know why people use that deranged lunatic outlier as an example for things. Yeah but they were with them to begin with, that's positive reinforcement. These same shitty people will find another significant other, attain intimacy, have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:12 PM
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You completely missed my point, men who are shitty are positively reinforced by women's desire for shitty men. Women getting into relationships with these men and having sex with these men is viewed as positive reinforcement. Therefore, women are the primary enablers and rewarders of shitty abusive and misogynistic men because, there are many men who are not abusive and misogynistic but, women do not select for them because of various reasons. Some even use memes to justify their poor choices, "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:05 PM
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Not asking for it, you just have realize that getting into relationships, having sex with and being intimate with shitty abusive and misogynistic men is viewed as positive reinforcement. If those men are bad then don't have relationships with them, don't have sex with them and shame other women who are. This will help alter shitty male behavior but, this would require accountability so I don't see it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:48 PM
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Most people erroneously assume that r/NiceGuys want to be loved. lol "niceguys" and "fuck boi" These are just memes. Everything this user is saying true, being a shitty man has nothing to do with not having a girlfriend, it's just a coping mechanism women use to make themselves feel better. Nice men do want to be loved like damn near anyone else, stop viewing people through reddit memes for crying out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:38 PM
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You'd be surprised lady. Women talk the talk but never walk the walk. Women are the primary enablers and rewarders of shitty abusive, misogynistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:24 PM
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Sssshhhh, don't tell inceltears
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:20 PM
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Yes they can, women can do damn near anything men can do. Where in lies the rub is that most women aren't WILLING to do those things. Keyword, willing. Why do xyz when men will do it instead? I can make nearly just about the same income while also working a job that is a lot easier on my health and well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 12:14 AM
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That paper doesn't really support much.. Also yes, men are oppressed and women are privileged. You're living in lala land if you cannot see that. Men just don't regularly carry on about their oppression because women rate men low on the dominant male hierarchy if they talk about their feelings and or show any signs of weakness. Womens desires in men and the gender roles they force upon them is one out of many causes of male oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 11:35 AM
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There's no such thing as "alphas" or "betas", we're not wolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 03:43 AM
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There is no such thing as mgtow. Mid to low tier men don't need to "go their own way", they are not a hot commodity that is valued by society to begin with. Mgtow is nothing more than liars committing suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 12:04 AM
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It's not necessarily traditional masculinity, it's because society is gynocentric and misandric. Society values and cares about men less than it does women therefore suicidal men don't have much outlets to receive help the same way women do. This correlates with the fact that women are more privileged than men so why would the privileged gender kill themselves? Since men are underprivileged, they may think suicide is a reasonable option in this gynocentric society
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 11:44 PM
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I'm oversimplifying it because it really is not that complex. Men have no reproductive rights. There options are to have sex or to not have sex. Also, men don't have regular dating options the way women do, many men take what they can get to risk not being an incel. Most women do have some series of options or "suitors" throughout their life, men do not. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, relationships and the creation of children. Acting as if there's "no blame out on the men" is stupid. Why put…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:41 PM
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Women's disproportionate power and privilege in sex, dating and relationships is unearned. Your going off into the weeds coming up with a cop out excuse. Women have more power and privilege in sex, dating and relationships therefore they should take much of the blame. It's pretty simple. You're going off into the weeds with this grooming nonsense. Women have agency and autonomy, they have the final say and choice. Men have no reproductive rights besides "keep it in your pants". You're trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:06 PM
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Once again, more comments alluding to your main point about how women have no agency or autonomy of their own. Make better choices! You have tremendous unearned power and privilege, use it wisely. "Grooms their victims", such nonsense. Some women are attracted to these traits, they don't need to necessarily be "groomed".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:31 PM
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"Men are just abusers and groomers much more often than women" You still refuse to acknowledge the fact that many women still haven't evolved their attractions in men. Women are the ones attracted to dark triad traits, not men. Women are the ones attracted to narcissistic, psychopathic and Machiavellian traits in the opposite sex, not men. Many men are what many women find attractive in them. Women have the choice to not be with these men. Be with the mild mannered reliable man but, that's not "…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:14 PM
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Why do people like you always act as if women are inherently dumb, easily led and have no agency of their own? It always comes across as sexist in a ass backwards way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:01 PM
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I mean if they really need advice, I would suggest that they weaponize their femininity the way damn near most women do and also continue to propagate the societal oppression of men which helps you retain and even your unearned power and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:53 PM
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What more advice would women need? They already have damn near almost all the unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:33 PM
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It's very simple. Women have a disproportionate amount of power when it comes to sex, dating and relationships. Therefore, they should take a disproportionate amount of blame. Most women are willfully ignorant to the fact that most men don't participate in regularly dating people the way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:29 PM
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Because women are substantially more likely to be a part of the herd and follow trends. The only "I'm not like other people" I regularly come across are neuro atypical men with issues socializing and mental health problems as well. There's nothing romantic about being different and not being like other people. These typically men but some women as well usually end up alone and have serious issues throughout their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 11:49 PM
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Yup, a man who's a 5/10 although objectively is equal to a woman who's a 5/10 on paper, in the real world where you can account for women's tremendously weaponized unearned power and privilege, that 5/10 woman is equal to a 7 or 8 /10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:58 PM
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Women in general don't go for much older men. Its nothing but a RP/mgtow fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:28 PM
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I mean I am in my 20s, they would be high tier average in my age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:05 PM
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I mean they are pretty average though or at least high tier average. Not ugly at all nor are they beautiful. I would say they're pretty average or maybe high tier average, not sure why you think it's funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:47 PM
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Men place a lot of value in a women's "moral character", they're just not as shallow as women are. Men like women intrinsically. It's an innate desire, innate attraction. I don't think most women like men innately or intrinsically, they like what men can do for them or provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:43 PM
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Men do not gate commitment, I don't know why you guys believe in that RP bologna. Men don't gate keep shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:14 PM
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That is text book projection. I mean I kind of see what you're saying but, look at how men rate women overall and how women rate men. Men's attraction in women is very reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:12 PM
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Most RP advice is like Jordan Peterson's motivational advice. It's not wrong per se but, the problem is that it is not all that practical for many people and completely ignores various aspects of life that someone may have little control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:09 PM
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You think that's bad, just wait til they start taking all the female athletic scholarships when it's more regularly accepted for them to compete on female teams in high school. This is going to get real bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:48 PM
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It happens, but it's also greatly exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:25 PM
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What "incel BS"? Incels are correct with most of their claims and assertions, the problem with incels is their depression, anxiety and prior childhood traumas cause them to ruminate on those things. Women being snarky always comes across as having a total lack of empathy for men and men's issues. It's the epitome of, "well things are great for me so I don't care". We have a weird culture, men are told to Express how they feel and talk about things instead of internalizing them but, the primary d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:22 PM
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Many won't want any man because big daddy government will care for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:15 AM
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No, he is not a mgtow. He has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:15 AM
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Exactly, also all those men have well over $100 million each. Bringing them up is fallacious
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:00 AM
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There will always be legions of men wanting them. You'd be surprised how little self respect men have. For every one bitter mgtow there are probably 50 men willing to lick those trailer park girl's toilet seats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:58 AM
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Mgtow, "because liking girls is gay".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:55 AM
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None of them are mgtow, they probably haven't even ever heard of the acronym. You're using silly logic. Anyone who's for equality is a feminist Anyone who's for peace is a Muslim Anyone who's for charity is a Christian. You see how silly that is? Men who affiliate with "mgtow" are generally low tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:54 AM
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No one is shaming anybody dude, if you're an average to low tier dude then no one gives a shit if you don't date or never pass on your genes. Most mgtows are low tier or average at best, high tier men aren't going mgtow so women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:42 AM
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MGTOW, "I can get a girlfriend but I don't wanna".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:40 AM
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There is no wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 02:46 PM
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You don't have to have a husband, at least be in a stable relationship. Its incredibly selfish to be a single mother on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:01 PM
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A woman I know and talk to told me that some women keep a kid even when they know that the man does not want to be around or be a father whatsoever because they find that man very physically attractive and they want that man's genetics in their kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 07:07 PM
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Okay fair enough, thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:13 PM
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You don't have empathy for men? Damn.. Well at least you're honest. Those with unearned power and privilege generally struggle with having empathy for the underprivileged class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 01:02 PM
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Oh and it's bad but also remember that you're in a position of unearned power and privilege because you're a woman. Try to ha e some empathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:55 PM
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They mostly complain about being social outcast and ugly, at least that's what I've seen. The whole they expect women to.jump on their dicks is a misandric narrative. Let's be honest, incels receive a lot of hate because they're men who aren't doing well. If they were women no one would make a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:49 PM
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You're just parroting the narrative that all these guys are deranged lunatics who call women whores when they get rejected. There are many legitimate things to criticize incels on instead of making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:47 PM
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They don't want to hear men being sad* There I corrected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:43 PM
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Dude, stop commenting and move on. I'm not going to read your long response. Like I said, I'm not going to share the details of my life with some stranger that I don't know over the internet. I don't know you, I don't care about your stories or suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 01:21 AM
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I'm not being vague at all, I gave you reasoning as to why women are more privileged than men and you disagree so that's that. I'm not going to talk about personal things with a random person that I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 01:03 AM
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I've already told you how. Men are viewed as having no intrinsic value. Women do have intrinsic value and are cared for more by default irrespective of their accomplishments or what they have to offer besides their unearned biological privileges. Men are disposable, expendable and replaceable where as women are not viewed that way. In a gynocentric society women are the privileged class and men are underprivileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:55 AM
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No offense but, this is a nonsense point. Both men and women are discouraged to sterilize themselves because many people are stupid and fickle. Most doctors won't even sterilize someone who isn't at least mid to early 30s. Yeah and? Men are still as a whole treated worse than women. Most women don't want to be treated like men. They want a la carte gender roles where they want to be treated like men when they desire so and treated like a lady when they desire so, it's a form of entitlement and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:44 AM
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Every woman I know would love to be treated like we treat men. They're lying to you, that is so terribly false. Women love the benefits and privileges of being treated like a lady. Unearned power and privilege as in the fact that women are valued more than men are by default. Most men have to attain value, women are born with an intrinsic value. Society cares for and values women's lives, feelings, health and overall well being and happiness more than it does men's irrespective of what that woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:31 AM
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Yeah but you need to differentiate preferences from impositions of values and standards. Most men have no standards and very minimal options. Guys on here will talk the talk but, never walk the walk. I guarantee you that 99% of the guys on here who claim they would prefer a virgin would gladly settle down with a woman who's slept around a bunch. Men don't really have thorough standards the way women do, they have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:23 AM
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Why on earth are you telling me this? The point of my post was the inverse of what you're saying. The point was that people are always bashing men and carrying on about how they're privileged and entitled to xyz when that's just projection from women onto men. Yeah women have many issues but, it is terrible worse to be a man. You've never wondered why almost all trans people are MtoF? Why the hell would a woman want to be a man, she's going to lose unearned power and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:16 AM
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I've met many.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:07 AM
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Incel aren't even saying that they deserve anything. Most admit that they're undesirable and that affects their dating chances. The whole "incels feel entitled to women" is a reddit/youtube/leftist narrative that is being pushed. Getting to know and being rejected by damn near every woman isn't an entitlement, that's just chronic rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:07 AM
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This whole rape hysteria thing is so ludicrous. All it's doing is scaring the shit out of women unreasonably but anyways to answer your question, I grew up in a pretty shitty neighborhood. My neighborhood growing up was filled with drug and alcohol abusing white folk, ghetto ass black folk and illegal immigrants. I've been jumped and gotten beat up for, I'm honestly not sure why?? It's happened though and still to this day I always carry a pocket knife on me and reach for it when people I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:02 AM
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I completely agree with you, I'm pretty self-aware now that I'm older and I know many guys who will claim that they're "decent" looking, "why can't I get a girlfriend"? They assume that just because they're not butt horribly ugly that they must be halfway decent looking, they don't realize that to most women it's a binary. You're either attractive or unattractive. Men project the way they view women onto the way they think women view men. To men, a 4 or 5 out of 10 woman who makes $36k a year is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:56 PM
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I grew up in a horrible shitty ghetto area full of drug and alcohol addicted white folk, ghetto ass black folk and a lot of crazy illegal immigrants. I bent over backwards with my balls in a knot towards a graduate level education to get out of that shitty ghetto area so, in my experience everyone else in my area was terribly flawed and it wasn't necessarily me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:50 PM
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I'm not even sure anymore, many people on reddit use the word "entitled" but, then they cannot even properly define it. You're not entitled to a tall man, you're not entitled to a girlfriend, you're not entitled to a rich man, you're not entitled to monogamy. None of these are entitlements but, I guess in the context of reddit any want or desire that goes unrequited is considered an entitlement on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:47 PM
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Yup, that's the problem. Women can hold men to high standards but, men cannot hold women to much of any standards. This is why dating is a million times worse for men because they lack the unearned power and privilege that women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:42 PM
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I mean I sort of agree with you but, it's also incredibly hypocritical for a woman to feel this way. It's just that they can get away with it because they have more unearned power and privilege than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:40 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about, I don't see men here demanding anything let alone demanding virginity. Some guys here would prefer a virgin but, when push comes to shove they will settle for whatever woman is willing to settle for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:38 PM
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Yup, women date other men when in a stable relationship or marriage all the time, why do you think the terms "beta orbiters" and "emotional affairs" exist. Women cheat more than men but maintain plausible deniability about how it's not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:45 PM
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rich Rich men is what's operative here. Most men aren't rich nor are most men all that desirable physically. You're comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:43 PM
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No, because many men want the intimacy that comes with sex. If they just want to bust a nut they'll masturbate. A lot of your comments are coming across as incredibly misandric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:32 PM
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It's as ludicrous as the claim mgtard make about how damn near every late teens early 20s woman is getting gang banged every weekend as she's "riding the cock carousel".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:30 PM
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1.) Because a portion of men are incels. 2.) A decent portion of men are just low tier and probably only have sex once in a blue moon or so. This tier of men probably only get laid once every two or three years. 3.) Another decent portion of men are in stable relationships with whatever halfway decent women was wiling to be with them, they can't necessarily cheat unless they go to a hooker. 4.) You'd be surprised but, a lot of men are not sexual deviants or degenerates that are willing to pay so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 04:13 PM
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Yes. Men have it easier in ways they don't even realize. The same can be said about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:46 PM
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Yeah, I think they make many good points about masculinity but, women are the primary enablers and rewarders of the masculinity they complain about. It's the equivalent of carrying on about how bad giant corporations are for the earth but then only buying stuff from Amazon and Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:19 PM
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It is a privilege because it pretty much guarantees you an aspect of life that damn near almost every living breathing human being wants, which is a family and a significant other. It is the ultimate privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:16 PM
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Yes, in a heartbeat With transgenderism being almost entirely unidirectional, I think its obvious who would rather be who.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:09 PM
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I do find it funny that wanting a stable family relationship via two-parent household is considered "tradcon". I thought that was just common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 11:10 PM
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Exactly, she's placing the burden on the underprivileged demographic in this context. Women are the choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 11:06 PM
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Most men marry who is willing, you have real grandiose views over how much power men have when it comes to sex and dating. Most guys just take whatever they can get. Sometimes whatever they can get is a total mess of a woman. It's either be with that woman or be a incel. Pick your poison I suppose..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:47 PM
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There is no rising SMV of men in their 30s. That's a RP/mgtard fallacy or coping mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:04 PM
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You're absolutely correct but, the presumption is always that this guy must be a high school drop out basement dwelling league of legends player who does nothing but live off of mommy. People are still using that cope, they don't want to accept that there are legions of good men who are gainfully employed that cannot attract a significant other for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 05:10 PM
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It's always been projection, same thing with the "men cheat more" and "men are only looking for sexual encounters and not relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:58 PM
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I've known plenty of unattractive women who "betabuxx" and also get supplemented with government welfare so yes, they don't have to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:55 PM
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Yeah I know a bunch, your ripped body is irrelevant if you have an ugly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:50 PM
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No the TRP is all about being a big dopey imbecilic dick swinging alfalfa male and attaining reeeeeesources in order to attract a gold digger. TRP is even more cringeworthy than the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:45 PM
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Exactly, confidence comes from prior positively reinforcement, if you e o my had negative reinforcement in something and you're confident, then you're just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:43 PM
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Yup, like I said, many are too defeatist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:40 PM
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TRP is a joke, hur dur, "women will hit the wall but us men age like fine wine, you can attract a 20 year old hottie when you're 40 with your reeeeeesources". What complete and utter nonsense. TRP is essentially the new blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:39 PM
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This is why most blue pillers and red pillers on here have very grandiose expectations when it comes to what some of the guys on here can do when it comes to attracting the opposite sex. Love them or hate them blac pillers are probably the most accurate with their appraisal of the situation, it's just that many of them are far too far too defeatist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 12:45 AM
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My gym buddy is definitely overweight and buff, he's 6'3" though so he carrys the weight well and lifts a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 12:43 AM
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Well, when they promote nonsense such as "the wall" and "men aging like fine wine", I don't blame people for hating it. Most of the redpill is nonsense and is not all that applicable in the real world. It's like Jordan Peterson's self-improvement advice, it's not that bad per se but, it is sort of hard to actually put into use when you start accounting for real world variables that are uncontrollable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:46 AM
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How do you know they're not doing anything to better themselves? How do we measure whether they're bettering themselves or not? Maybe they have bettered themselves and are still bettering themselves but still, they're still pretty low on the totem pole. I would disagree with you about how these guys aren't bettering themselves, it could be true for a small portion but, it is probably very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:13 PM
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Doesn't matter, they'll still have legions of decent men wanting to wine and dine them and then marry them. They're women after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 12:15 PM
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Yup, a good chunk of America will be one large ghetto or one large trailer park.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:15 PM
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I don't even agree with the Redpill/mgtard shit. You're just leaving insults now because you have no argument or anything substantive to say. If you're going to insult people just leave and carry onto to another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:05 PM
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Yeah yeah, I see you making that same reply to anyone who doesn't agree with you. Funny thing is, you have proved myn point with your replies. You are in such abject denial about your unearned power and privilege. You keep carrying on about pump and dump which has very little to do with most men. Most men aren't pumping and dumping women at all. You keep moving the goal post and now you're ending with insults hur dur "go to incels if you don't agree with me".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:03 PM
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It's not a step for you because you're speaking from a position of unearned power and privilege, you already have access to the first step of a relationship or dating because you're born as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:00 PM
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How do you know they're losers? Most men have pretty realistic expectations because they know they lack the unearned power and privilege that women have. A guy who's a 4/10 that's lower middle class gladly willing to get into a relationship with a woman who's a 5/10 that's also lower middle class would be pretty reasonable. The only reason the women would consider him a loser is because of her position of unearned power and privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:54 PM
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I see sexual interest as not even a step. That has to be one of the most ludicrous statements so far that on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:50 PM
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There's no such thing as being used for sex unless it was nonconsensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:43 PM
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Ssshhh no common sense allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:39 PM
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Men have trouble getting either though and I don't buy the whole women have trouble finding quality relationships. Make better choices, if your pool is that broad make better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:36 PM
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The threshold for a woman being hot is so low. You're acting as if there aren't legions of men who would gladly get into a longterm serious relationship with a woman who's a 5/10. I don't know why you're in such denial about this. Women having unearned power and privilege doesn't mean they're bad people. I just want them to acknowledge it instead of the whole but but but both sides nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:34 PM
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NO, women do have it easier than men. Because they're valued more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:30 PM
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She's coping and grasping at straws
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:25 PM
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Yup, they are in such denial about this. It's because they don't consider certain men to even be a prospective option. A low tier guy expressing romantic interest them would be the equivalent of their couch asking them out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:17 PM
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Lady, come work in the mental health field and you would be shocked to learn about the vast number of disheveled and severely mentally ill women that have regular joe boyfriends, husbands and fiancee's. Their male equivalents have little to no friends or family let alone a significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:14 PM
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I don't know who on earth you're talking about that advocates for sex farms. You're just parroting propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:12 PM
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They don't have to get pumped and dumped. Women have an infinitely broader pool of options than men, they should pick men who won't pump and dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:10 PM
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You're in denial. They have it easier when it comes to sex and a relationship. They're valued more by default making it far easier to attain a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:09 PM
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which can be just as hard for some women This both sides nonsense is ridiculous, it's hard for women who purposely make it hard. If you have all the power and privilege in something and it's hard for you. It is likely hard because of your own doing. You cannot compare mens struggles in this, which are infinitely worse than women's to women's struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:45 PM
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It's not that they don't care about the average man's inability to get sex, most don't care about the average man's suffering in general. It's the view that people had during industrial revolution Britain about the undeserving poor. About how these people must be innately bad which is why they are poor. I see a similar mindset from many women and the men who worship them when it comes to a segment of the male population that struggles socially and romantically. It's the viewpoint of those who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:41 PM
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He thinks he should just get to wake up and have women jumping on his dick just because he exists That's not what I think at all, that's a horrible conceptualization of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:39 PM
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Are you kidding me? They literally came up with a violence against women act eventhough almost all of the victims of violent crime are men. Evryone cares more about a woman's wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:37 PM
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Yup, sex is like clean water. You don't think about it when it is abundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:16 PM
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Being seen as more valuable because of the sex you're born as is absolutely an unearned power and privilege that women have and men lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:59 PM
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Well, are they hostile because you're speaking from a tremendous position of unearned power and privilege and not acknowledging that? Either way, I'm not asking for sympathy, sympathy implies that you feel bad for someone. It's more about how indenial women are of their unearned power and privilege. That further promotes societal misandry which, long at some of the comments to this post, misandry is a major problem on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:14 PM
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Men have it easier in every other way. I would strongly disagree with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:48 PM
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Dude, I wasn't even the one who made the initial response to you. Also, the guy said affection and attention. He didn't complain about women not lasciviously trying to blow him when he's walking down the street. So many of you women on here are so hostile towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:15 PM
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I'm not trying to equate the two. You said, men bad because they're unaware of women's experiences. He said, well women bad too because they're unaware of men's experiences. You openly stated that you don't care about men's experiences and now you're making fun of them. The people on this sub, I swear there's something wrong with most of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:10 PM
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Well, you stated that men are unaware of how women are sexually harassed, insinuating that men are bad because of this. He stated that women are unaware about how men are lonely, never receive any attention or affection. So it does apply Either way, wanting some form of affection is not an entitlement. Everyone wants that. Saying that a guy wanting some affection or closeness is an entitlement would be the equivalent of telling a kid he's not entitled to a mom or dad. It's just ridiculous and mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:48 PM
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Once again, what is with people on reddit and the word "entitled". It does not apply in this context at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:34 PM
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No, it doesn't happen to men because they are not deemed as sexually and socially valuable as women. We don't have that unearned power and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:32 PM
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These men take no as a challenge. Well, look at all the comments and post carrying on about male passivity and how that is a horrible dating strategy. Almost all of the male behavior that women complain about is enabled, rewarded and incentivised by women. So ladies, somethings got to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:30 PM
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Why do people on reddit use the word entitlement so much? Most of the time it is used improperly. You're not entitled to a girlfriend!! You're not entitled to a tall man!! How on earth is wanting something, putting some baseline effort towards attaining it and then not be able to get it an entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:34 PM
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Once again, women have never been EXCLUSIVELY oppressed. If it comes with the perks of running civilization, which men do and always have done, not really. Almost all men have never ran anything let alone civilization so, they're still suffering from the ultimate form of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 03:06 AM
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My point is that there never was a caveat connected to women's right to vote. Whereas for men, there still is. Originally, most men couldn't even vote. Landowners could and then eventually it was extended over to other men. Women have never been objectively oppressed exclusively, it was contingent on many different variables. What historical record? Poorly interpreted revisionist nonsense? Society has almost always been gynocentric, meaning that it revolves around the care and benefit of women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:46 AM
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You completely missed my point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:35 AM
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Are you kidding me? Women's suffrage further supports the notion that women are valued more by default. They gave women the right to vote in exchange for nothing. Men were not given a right to vote, they were allowed to vote in exchange for conscription. The primary opponents of women's suffrage were other women because they thought that they would have to be a part of conscription as well. Women are substantially valued more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:29 AM
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Certainly, I have experience in the mental health and human services field. I could show you dozens of women who are disheveled and severely psychotic and guess what? They still have boy friends, husbands, fiancee's and families. Many of them even have kids. Compare this to the disheveled and severely psychotic men I've worked with, they don't even have any family support let alone girlfriends or fiancee's. Many of these men are homeless on and off. Nobody wants anything to do with these men bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:55 AM
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Nope, women will always be valued more by default because they're required to continue society and their companionship is more desired as well. Men must attain value, women are born with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:49 AM
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Men do have to be deemed "worthy" either directly or indirectly in one way shape or form. You wouldn't understand because you're a woman and you're speaking from a place of tremendous unearned power and privilege. You've always had value and worth in society by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:48 AM
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Nope, strongly disagree. People care a lot if a woman or women's lives suck. Because women are valued for who they are as a human being, men are valued for what they do or can do. Women are human beings, men are human doings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:40 AM
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Yeah this guy is being sort of naive, although some good points were made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:52 PM
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No you don't need to treat this like an issue to be fixed. There is no societal fix for men. You can't force women to have sex with men they're not attracted to. That's not necessarily the issue though, the issue is that women have such tremendous unearned power and privilege. Women are valued by default, men have to attain value. Women are cared for default, men have to care for themselves so on and so forth. That's the issue. We live in a society that enables and incentives lousy female behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:46 PM
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It's not that women are primarily interested in taking advantage and mooching off of men, it is that there's not much of anything stopping them from doing so. You're not allowed to hold a woman to much of any social/ethical/moral standards anymore, that's considered misogynistic and most women avoid being held to any social/ethical/moral standards the same way cockroaches avoid light. The rest of society won't check them on it either, their peer group won't as well. There's nothing stopping wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:22 PM
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For women, there chief entitlements is that they will be treated better, receive better service and be given dispensations, exemptions and excuses for things that aren't given to men just because they're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:14 PM
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Nah dude, damn near all the women I know, there social supports are their families and significant others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 03:46 PM
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How do you know it's less likely? Because women can always have other mediums of social support and emotional intimacy besides friendships. Women's unearned power and privilege allows them to have a family almost whenever they please, have a significant other almost whenever they please. Men don't have those privileges therefore they place more value I'm their friendships. Women don't have to place that much value in their friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 12:33 PM
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Lady, most men don't "turn down" women. They might not pursue certain women or ask them out but, men really aren't rejecting women. Rejection and turning down is something women do, only a small portion of men are actively turning down women. The average guy isn't prince Harry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:13 AM
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"Unpaid labor" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 01:53 PM
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Nah dude, I didn't imply that having guy friends is the same as cheating. You know what I mean. What I told you is happens all the time. Not this again, for fuck sake the whole men cheat more than women thing is stupid. Men are found out more than women are because men are stupid. Women are more emotionally and socially intelligent than men, they're more manipulative and methodical with how they go about doing this sort of stuff. Also, men and women don't necessarily cheat the same way as well. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 08:13 PM
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Not this again, for fuck sake the whole men cheat more than women thing is stupid. Men are found out more than women are because men are stupid. Women are more emotionally and socially intelligent than men, they're more manipulative and methodical with how they go about doing this sort of stuff. Also, men and women don't necessarily cheat the same way as well. Women will date other men while in a relationship, they'll meet other men and get to know them, they'll keep one foot in and one foot out…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 07:53 PM
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Men filing divorce is pretty damn rare, men cannot just meet someone after a divorce the way a woman can. Besides, most women probably already have a dude lined up. Most men cannot do that. Why on earth would a woman be a sugar mama, women don't need to pay decent looking men for sex and or a relationship. They can get that if they so choose. Plenty of well-off and decent looking dudes are not regularly going to strip clubs. Most strip clubs aren't like the ones on the Vegas strip that are like …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 07:38 PM
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Well you have one when the woman decides you're worthy enough to settle for at this moment. Men propose, women dispose. I don't know what you mean by that second comment. Women aren't trying to get knocked up by some old dude, they can make their own money or they can get on welfare and work part time. Why on earth would a woman regularly go to a strip club? That's for sexually frustrated loser males or drug and alcohol abusing loser males. Women will always have a significant other if they so w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 07:07 PM
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"Interact" doesn't mean much to be honest. I've had women "interact" with me but, I could tell they didn't find me the least bit physically attractive and I have enough self awareness to move on then. Also, there are plenty of women who will make an online dating profile for shits and giggles, I know many women who have done that. Women don't need online dating, men sort of do. Also, the whole 23 year old sugar baby getting knocked up by some old dude is a mgtard RP fantasy, it rarely happens. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:51 PM
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Meh, most of my friends that are male have settled down with women who are not hot at all. They're either average looking women or slightly below average. Even the fairly good looking, ex military 6'1" white guy types that I know all settled with women who aren't anything special at all. Then compare that with my coworkers (I work with almost all women) and there husbands, fiances and boyfriends are all objectively pretty damn good looking. I think women are more obsessed with how hot the guy is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:25 PM
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Same, my hot has always been women who are pretty damn average looking. The typical instathot strikingly beautiful features with a thick ass, thick legs and a flat tummy aren't what I've found super attractive even though that's what objectively would be considered incredibly desirable. Although someone like Kylie Jenner is objectively beautiful, I just don't find that look real desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:12 PM
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Most men nor most women are meant for "hook up culture". I'm a mental health professional and here's what I have noticed about the males and females that are incredibly sexually promiscuous; the males are generally very self-obsessive and do not have much of any regard for the feelings of others and generally display low levels of empathy. The females generally lean heavily towards strong traits of neuroticism when it comes to their personality. They display emotional lability as well. Disclaime…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 12:32 AM
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Yeah pretty much, I mean I am in the single digits myself but, I would consider dating a woman who's slept around a lot if I actually liked her, felt comfortable being with her and she was willing to be honest about her past. I don't know why the belief that having a lack of transparency in a relationship and being dishonest with your significant other are somehow acceptable. I see this dumb ass belief spouted on PPD, relationship advice and other parts of reddit regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 12:27 AM
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Nah, you read it. I just hope you realize that your claim about how being honest implies that a woman is serving the "interest of men", is on par with some of the most ludicrous and imbecilic things that you would hear mgtards say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 11:17 PM
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Well, some people prefer to be with a significant other who is willing to be open, honest and transparent with them. You're essentially saying, "who cares about people being honest with the person they plan on spending the rest of their life with"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 11:11 PM
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NO! It hasn't always been the war of the sexes. Men and women use to compliment each other instead of wage war against the sexes. People like you, the rad fems and the mgtards are all just spouting nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 11:07 PM
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Please quit your bullshit, you're being ludicrous. Trying to have some integrity does not mean that you're serving the interest of men, it's called trying to be an ethical and halfway decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 11:05 PM
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Society takes care of women, they don't need to commit crimes because they will generally always have a support structure there to back them up. Also, women don't need to impress to opposite in order to attract a mate, they will for the most part attract a mate irregardless of their wealth, status and so on and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 07:49 PM
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It's all because women can get away with being shitty, the same way a child acting a fool in public is kind of cute and funny. Most men know they cannot get away with shitty public behavior or acting a fool in public because, they know that they will get arrested or that people will want to fight them. I'm a muscled up guy in his 20s, if I act a fool in public, right away I know that I will get arrested. Women can get away with being shitty, most men cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 07:28 PM
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What group are you talking about? The Dayton shooter was not an incel, the Walmart guy was not an incel. The Florida high school guy was not an incel, the two prospective Colorado school ones that they stopped in increments of 8 months, neither were incels. I get it, you have the "incel bad"! Agenda, likely primarily fueled by misandry but, you don't have to be this overly prejudiced to further it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:39 PM
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Did he say he was an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:31 PM
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when most people hear the term incel, they picture the psycho version. That's because of mainstream media and reddit brainwashing as well as rampant misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:28 PM
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Well I stand by statements, a 21 year old guy with two prior relationships would not be an incel. I mean that's not even a late bloomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:44 AM
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That's ridiculous, by that logic a good portion of men are incels. If we go by that definition than almost all older adults are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:36 AM
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If that Toronto guy was so into the whole "incel" thing, then the authorities would have found online postings on different forums and sites and would have used that as further evidence. A wacky post about an "incel revolution" or whatever he said right before a terrorist attack seems all to suspect. He likely posted that because he knew he would get more media attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:34 AM
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I don't think they meant virgin, their operant definition of "incel" was zero intimacy for over the past year. I'm sure a decent portion were virgins but, virginity wasn't measured nor was it a focal point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:29 AM
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What do you mean by "self described"? The Dayton shooters had multiple ex girlfriends by his early 20s. I wouldn't consider him an incel unless someone's definition of an incel is a guy who's currently not balls deep at this very given moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:25 AM
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Betts was not an "incel", his girlfriend was in an interview with a news site. ER was obviously a severely deranged lunatic, his psych reports were posted on the web a while ago and he was on some serious meds, not like basic antidepressants but, antipsychotic medication. Sodini, eventhough the whole "incel" thing as we know it didn't exist yet, he was a legit incel. A middle aged guy with no ex wife and no girlfriend. Yes, he was absolutely an incel, the colloquialism didn't exist then though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:19 AM
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The Toronto van guy is a crock of shit, there's no evidence that he was an "incel", he likely made that Facebook comment because he knew it would grant him more attention, the attention that he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 02:31 AM
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It's only ridiculous because you're in denial about it. Also, incel isn't something that someone identifies as. You either are or you aren't. It's like some of those guys in inceltears carrying on about how they're adult virgins but, at least they're not incels. It's like I hate to break it to those guys but, they're incels. There is no incel ideology, once again. This is all stuff that you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 02:29 AM
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This logic is so dumb. Do people have any idea how many damn incels there probably are? I mean those two articles asserted that almost 1/3 or males between 18-30 are incels, why do people use this faulty logic? So does the trans shooter imply that we need to watch out for transgenders? Does the Dayton shooter imply that we need to watch for Bernie and Warren supporters? Besides, the Dayton shooter and Florida highschool shooter had girlfriends. So do we now need to look out for guys with girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:24 AM
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It doesn't exist. Women or people who obsess over patriarchy are just as deluded as guys who obsess over le alpha male and beta male nonsense. Patriarchy just outright does not exist and the alpha/beta paradigm is flawed because human society is a lot more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:36 PM
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I sort of agree with you to an extent but, most feminist don't know what they're talking about from the get go. The baseline assertions from feminist are wrong to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 09:30 PM
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Dude, we don't live in a patriarchy. We live in a vain plutocracy. The amount of power someone has is not contingent on their gender, it's contingent on their looks and their wealth and status. I don't know where you're from but, in my neck of the woods, the more than 7/10 people make around $36k-$64k a year. The average male on his death bed barely has two nickles to rub together, alone leaving wealth, land rights and the command of servants to their son. What you're talking about is gynocentri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:38 PM
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If you don't want to take a man's last name then don't. Either way, that is not an example of patriarchy. People need to quit inventing their own definitions of things, what I stated is literally what a patriarchy is. We don't live in that system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:31 PM
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People always say that when someone is anti-feminist. I for one, actually use to go to feminist alliance club meetings during undergrad. When I was real young, I actually use to consider myself to be somewhat of a male feminist but, I abandoned all that shit when I realized that damn near most of those women don't practice what they preach and that they're not for equality. And then people started carrying on about "equity" instead of "equality". Biggest crock of shit ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:29 PM
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You can punch down as much as you want if the person is a "le incel" menace. People will cheer you and support you, if you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:21 PM
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We don't live in a patriarchy nor are we ever going to go back to it. A patriarchy is a system in which land rights, wealth and the command of servants is passed down from father to eldest son or only son, if that is not possible then it goes to a male who's next of kin. Carrying on about the patriarchy in this day and age is a ludicrous discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:20 PM
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Yup, same thing with mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:17 PM
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I would say majority of men want emotional connection and emotional intimacy but, I would also assert that most men probably don't know how to get emotional intimacy. I know plenty of guys who fall into either two categories. A.) They know how to get laid but, don't know how to escalate that into some emotional connection/intimacy. B.) They know how to connect emotionally and can attain emotional connection and intimacy but, don't know how to escalate that into physical intimacy. It's kind of ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:43 PM
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For fuck sake, wait till marriage or stable relationships to have sex then. If a woman gets pumped and dumped she's choosing to get pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:03 PM
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Yup, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 05:56 PM
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How do you identify the violent ones though? I think it's a lot harder than people think and it's harder to put men in a "violent one" even though people would assume it's easy. I mean for a while everyone was jumping on the whole, "all these mass shooters are virgin, incel right wing types" but now, some of the more recent ones had/have girlfriends and some of them were left wing as well. They recently jut arrested a suspected shooter who was working in conjunction with his girlfriend about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:25 PM
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Legal sex work will only further the divide among men and women, prostitution is already pseudo legal, I mean look at all the cam girls, porn girls and escorts/sugar baby types that make tax free income off of sex work. Right now they sort of have to be somewhat incognito about it. If sex work was completely legalized instead of just being pseudo legal then men and women would be substantially more divided. Women straight up on tinder would put in their bio that you have to pay them $300 just fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:20 PM
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I don't want to see anyone brought down a peg, I just wanted women to acknowledge the fact that they have tremendous amounts of unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. I just wanted them realize that men do not have these privileges therefore, don't take them for granted and have some empathy for men but, that's been failure because they banned conversations about empathizing for mens issues. It's been kind pointless because anytime I bring it up…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:28 PM
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Unearned implies being a part of the lucky sperm club. It doesn't imply a moral judgment of any kind. Here's another example that has nothing to do with sex/dating and or relationships. Alice Walton is the wealthiest woman on earth, she's the eldest heir to the Walmart fortune. She's worth more than $30 billion. Her daddy was the one who founded and created Walmart, she didn't do shit, she just got lucky and is a part of the lucky sperm club, therefore unearned privilege. Now that doesn't mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:30 PM
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Are you serious? What's the typical advice given to men who cannot get a girlfriend and more specifically advice given to incels? It generally consist of you need to self-improve, get into better shape, improve your education, improve your personality and social skills. Don't feel entitled to people wanting to be with you, you need to do x,y,z in order to achieve some form of attraction from the opposite sex. In the context of dating, sex and relationships, this isn't expected, demanded nor requ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:23 PM
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It is if you haven't done much to achieve that attraction and or desire. Just being born and people wanting to be your significant other irrespective of anything that you have done or accomplished is an unearned privilege. The opposite of that would be my cousin, who didn't get girlfriend until he became a doctor of osteopathic medicine and then a surgeon. He had to work and earn the privilege of being found desirable enough for the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:06 PM
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It all stems from the fact that men want to understand women because, they hope that endeavor will better their chances at sex, dating and or relationships that eventually lead to marriage or going steady without marriage. The discrepancy lies in the fact that many women don't care to get to know and or understand men because they simply don't have to. Women have all the unearned power and privilege in sex, dating, relationships and marriage. For men I think it's more of a necessity to try to un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:34 PM
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Yeah and they immediately get locked and removed from the main feed for the sub. Yet your post has been up for almost an entire day. I wish modding wasn't so obviously biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:05 PM
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I have, it's sort of ridiculous how biased modding is. People would get butthurt if some guy made a post titled "women are in denial" and here is why women are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 08:20 PM
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This post breaks multiple rules but, it is still up. Is there damn near any sub left that isn't filled with terrible biased moderation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 08:14 PM
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Yeah and what does that have to do with you promoting conspiracy theories? Like I said, there is no patriarchy, we live in a vain plutocracy. Anyone who thinks that patriarch exist beyond very remote and insular communities is either brainwashed or not too bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:28 PM
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Are you kidding me? Women are substantially more privileged than men. We live in a gynocentric society and this is coming from someone who rejects the lunacy of the TRP and migtoe. Come work in social services and mental health and you will see right away that women are truly privileged. There is no patriarchy, it's all a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 06:53 PM
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Most men don't have much power though nor do they have much respect. I would strongly assert that women are more respected than men. Only a small portion of men have a tremendous amount of respect and power. Whereas damn near every woman is more privileged than men when it comes to sex/dating/socializing and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:27 PM
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when in reality it's that LV men who are always disadvantaged. Have you ever wondered why they're always disadvantaged? You're getting closer, think about it. Also, it's not a perception of women being advantaged, it's empirical. If women were disadvantaged when it comes to socialization/sex/dating and relationships, you would see similar proportions of men and women who are incels, who look to stupid seduction pick up garbage. You're just not buying it because the truth might make you uncomfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:23 PM
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Dude, I've been in two relationships. Like I said, my entire post went well over your head. It's not that men cannot have successful relationships, it's just that women have tremendous unearned power and privilege which gives them the edge in all things related to sex/dating/socializing and relationships. You're unnecessarily getting defensive about something because you do not understand it or purposely misconstrue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:10 PM
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Dude, this isn't "incel shit". The fact that this is all going over your head implies that maybe this is too deep of a concept for you to introspect on. Being successful at relationships, having more of them and being more successful when it comes to sex and dating, the odds of all of that are greatly increased if someone is a woman because, women have unearned power and privilege when it comes to socializing/sex/dating and relationships because of a whole slew of societal and biological factors…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:04 PM
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Maybe what I was reading was bullshit but, last time I checked, most women filed divorces because of financial issues, or because they started fucking somebody else or because their husband wanted to fuck somebody else. Women can already very easily replace their man if they so choose. A woman being with a man who makes significantly less than her implies that she will have an even more disproportionate amount of power in the relationship. I don't know if most women would want that much dispropo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:53 PM
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I don't think those men are voluntarily ignoring women though. Most women probably don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:48 PM
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How else would you want it worded then? I don't get it though, do you still reject it or not? Because I don't see how someone can reject the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:47 PM
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No unearned power and privilege that women have is that they will be better off and more successful when it comes to sex/dating/socializing and relationships to little to no merit of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:43 PM
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Very well, but that was the point of my question. Why can women not acknowledge that they have unearned power and privilege when it comes to anything social/sexual/relational and or dating wise. I mean you should date, marry and fuck whoever you want, reject whoever you want. It's just that the assumptions and suggestions made towards men are such shit. They always insinuate or imply that the men lack any or all positive attributes. It's the equivalent of libertarian economics theory replicated …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:41 PM
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So in a nutshell, yes, we have privileges. Virtually everybody knows that. Evidently not, just look at some of the comments right off the bat of women denying that they have these privileges, look at that one comment right off the bat doing exactly what I posted about how women with privilege make value judgements on men and assume that they lack positive attributes which is why they don't have the same success in sex and dating as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:34 PM
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But male thirst will never ever go away, therefore they will always have that privilege. Also, I would claim it's more biological than male thirst which perpetuates their privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:17 PM
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You reject it, meaning you reject reality. Elon Musk is a billionaire, his family owned diamond and emerald mines in Africa. Trump is president and his daddy left him tens of millions of dollars in wealth and assets. Amy Schumer is super famous and her family is well connected. Her uncle is Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer for crying out loud, how can you deny privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 09:03 PM
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lack of privilege doesn't abolish any personal responsibilty to work hard and be better this is similar to what I mentioned in the post if you actually took the time to read it. Those with unearned power and privilege assume that those who do not have what they have must lack in positive attributes, personal responsibility and work ethic being the two you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 08:49 PM
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Dude, having a kid is a privilege in of itself. There are plenty of men who would love to have a family, I would wager men are more interested in marriage and families now a days than woman are but, a good chunk of these men will likely never have one. This isn't the 1960s anymore, not everyone is going to be paired up. Plenty of men will never settle down and be fathers because of 1.) they don't make too much money 2.) they are unattractive 3.) a combination of 1 and 2
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 08:46 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? I didn't say anything about it being good nor bad. I'm just telling you how it is. Damn near all the women on this sub are so willfully ignorant to how gynocentricism negatively affects mens dating and sex lives. They just don't get it. Women born with unearned power and privilege think they particularly did something to get to their current point in life. "Well I have a significant other, or I've never had much issues with dating or attracting anyone, it mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:16 PM
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Yes unearned, women are valued more than men, they are cared for more than men, they are desired more than men. Not because of anything they have done but, because society is gynocentric and revolves around women and children thriving and surviving irrespective of how negatively that affects men. Most women are willfully ignorant of this or they are in agreement want to continue this societal basis because, they know that with true equality, they would have to work just as hard as men to be valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:27 PM
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Because men are more forgiving when it comes to looks. Men love women on a visceral level women don't love men the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:18 PM
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Exactly, let's say we gathered a hundred random men between the ages of 21-31. If most of them were rated as a 4/10 then according to women, that what the average guy in that sample is. Meaning that a 6.5 out of ten guy is well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 11:17 PM
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Well one variable is that women have so much unearned power and privilege in society, that definitely affects dating and lack their of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:58 PM
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Because most men aren't considered attractive. Say you're in an area where being fat is typical. People being overweight is what the average person will be. Do you get what I am saying? So, since women rate most men to be unattractive or slightly below average, then the average for men is probably 3-5 out of 10 because that's what most men are considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:20 PM
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I consider him above average, he's like a 6.5 out of 10. The average guy is a 3-5 out of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:06 PM
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Because most men cannot sleep around or fuck around with a lot of women unless they're literally paying for it. Being with a woman who has fucked a lot of men, means that you are in a relationship where one side has too much power. If one person has too much power in the relationship, then it will likely turn either passively or actively abusive or controlling. I think there should be some form of equality in relationships, doesn't have to be exact but, it should be close. You need to be with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:03 PM
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The whole Chad thing is sort of hyperbolic but you sir, are in denial. Chads do exist, they most certainly do and you and most people on reddit refuse to acknowledge a nasty little truth about things which is, that women have almost all the unearned power and privilege when it comes to sex and dating. A woman who is a 3-4 out of 10, that's a high school drop out and has multiple kids with multiple men, is valued as much or more than a man who's a 7-8 out of 10, with an M-eng degree, decent job a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 05:07 PM
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And that's not necessarily the problem of the person who has "low self esteem, low confidence, insecure, negative attitude" The thought of process of most people is ludicrous. Certain people are treated poorly, whether through bullying or their families but when they have a natural reaction to that, i.e. low self esteem, low confidence insecurities and negative attitudes, people double down and WILL NOT want to be around you. This is why any advice ever given to men whether from RP jackoffs or B…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:53 PM
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Post-hipster guys in Manhattan So a bunch of pretentious jack offs? Who care what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 04:58 PM
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No they don't, most men don't care. The only time men get pissey and judgey over a woman's significant other is when a woman they respect or care about (care about as a person not sexually) starts dating some degenerate or some dude who has 3 kids with 3 different baby mammas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:46 PM
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Yes, because plenty of men think being "sexually active" means getting laid once in a blue moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:34 PM
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What does that have to do with anything, are you a man or a woman ? If you don't want to answer it, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:32 PM
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The whole bad energy and defeatist attitude things is nonsense. People cannot sense your chakras or other type of intangible bologna.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:29 PM
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It doesn't, it's just a PUA nonsense that was conceived to siphon money away from socially inept men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:28 PM
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Being good looking alone absolutely does seal the deal. I'm curious, are you a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:08 PM
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Women know that they have the unearned power and privilege, if a woman wants to have kids she will, if a woman wants to get married and have a family she will. It's not really an existential angst, where as for men it is. There's a lot more uncertainty to it for men. So of course they're more obsessed with it. For most woman it's, "who will I start a family with and who will I marry" For most men it's, "will anyone even want to have kids with me, will anyone want to be my significant other" I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:06 PM
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I would assert that only a very small, tiny percentage of the female popular has never had anything. They do exist and they do matter though. Best way to explain it would be that women in that situation are incredibly rare while men in that situation are uncommon but we all knew there's a sizable amount of them. When that Washington post and new York Times articles came out talking about how 1/3 of men between 18-30 haven't had any intimacy at all in the past year, I would estimate that probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:50 PM
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I think blue pillars are more of the mindset that, "if you just become a decent person, act nice, be caring, treat women like you would anyone else and dress halfway decent then you'll definitely have a significant other". Most blue pill type women seem to be in denial with their own thoughts and emotions, I think they're lying to themselves while also lying to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 09:04 PM
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I always thought that blue pillars, at least the ones on reddit believe in an internal locus of control, where they think that anyone who cannot attract a significant other has %100 control of the issue. They typically refuse to acknowledge that some men, no matter what and irrespective of their efforts, will be single but, your response or answer to the question was interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:57 PM
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less hangups Most men already have little to no standards, let men reserve some semblance of dignity. Besides, I would argue that most men are already okay with it. I don't think camwhores or pornstars have much trouble finding a significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:17 PM
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What? You're telling me that guys who look like Rob Schneider are never the leads in RomComs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:57 PM
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Then why not be with BB from the get go? They're always around, orbiting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:45 PM
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Because you have the privilege to sleep around as much as you want and then still maintain the privilege to be in a monogamous committed relationship with a guy that worships you later in life. This is something that isn't possible for most men and its it's something that most women take for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:38 PM
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Same, I also have another friend who's 6'1" pretty good looking, makes $80k working in the trades and he's been in a long term relationship with a woman who's real fat. He's probably a 7 and she's probably a 4
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:34 PM
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So it does make you sort of uncomfortable. I mean many migtoes and inkels can be assholes but, a broken clock is correct twice a day. Gynocentricism= let's make a society designed around women surviving and thriving irrespective of how disposable, replaceable, expendable that makes men. This isn't my worldview, it's the basis for most societies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:30 PM
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Why does the word gynocentricism make you uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:10 PM
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Yup, it went from the denial or the status quo Where as now it is the acceptance and rationalization of the status quo. "Here's why it's okay that sex, dating and relationships should be a million times worse for men".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:50 PM
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NO! The male equivalents of those women, low tier disheveled, psychotic men are never dating anyone. These women are probably 2-3 tops and even they have boyfriends, husbands or fiance's. It just goes to show that most men have zero standards. The male equivalent of these women never has anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:45 PM
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They're not dating one point up though, they're dating 2-4 points up. Now a days, women have so much unearned power and privilege that a woman who's a 4 is the male equivalent of a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:42 PM
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I see good looking men with average or unattractive women all the time, people would always say that "couples are looks matched" but nope. I generally good looking men with women who are unattractive or nothing special. This explains the whole inkel migtoe phenomenon. If higher tier men have little to no standards and are dating the lower tier women, then the lower tier men will be fighting for scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:39 PM
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You ignoring societal factors and what this gynocentric society imposes on me is being kind of narrow minded. Men may rate themselves high, have you ever wondered why that could possibly be? Because men are always told to be confident, to always maintain a bravado of confidence and success. So men are probably thinking, "I think therefore I am". They're following the advice everyone else gives them but, in private company most men do not overrate themselves, they just won't open up and be this v…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:35 PM
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There's a stigma to men coming forward with anything. It's the same thing with men who know their unattractive. Men are always told to be confident no matter what therefore they probably put up this false bravado of the "I think therefore I am" shtick and just try to pretend that they're good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:30 PM
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Because it would make many women uncomfortable if they had to acknowledge how manipulative and predatory they are when it comes to sex and dating. Women are smarter than men when it comes to social dynamics therefore, acknowledging blacpill and RP stuff would mean that damn near everything they project onto men would also be true about themselves. Their blupill is a defense mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:22 PM
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Most men don't have options let alone participate in dating. This is something women take for granted. Good Lord, Mary in heaven above. I have tried explaining exactly what you have said to many many women, even to women on this sub. Anytime I mention that women's ability to easily participate in sex and dating is a major privilege that isn't reserved for most men. Anytime I bring up that most men have zero options and rarely date, I either receive outright denial or the whole "but but but, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 04:29 AM
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Yeah damn near every sub that tries to be neutral ends up being gynocentric and passively supports any point of view that a woman may have. I find it hilarious that people on here are so resistant to the concept of trying to imagine feeling what men are feeling in a certain situation or scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:40 AM
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I would have to look into the methodology of the study, as to how you rate attractiveness, what the scale is so and so forth. Rating yourself as attractive and thinking your attractive could be two different things though. Society and primarily women demand that men be confident and sure of themselves, those rating could be a front to put up false bravado. Since any man who admits the vulnerability of being unattractive would be viewed as terrible by most of society, men probably feel inclined o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:03 AM
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Yeah and I don't see how a bill that wants to further equality would be radical. It's not a "pussy bill", I would want something that aims to make things more equal for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:11 AM
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I don't think we should pass a "pussy bill", I think we should strive for a more equal society and strive for fairness. In certain areas, men have the unearned power and privilege, in other areas women have the unearned power and privilege. I don't see how wanting things to be more fair for both sexes would be viewed as radical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:07 AM
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This is why I am suggesting that we all should strive towards social and legal efforts that take some power away from those who have unearned power and privileges and give some more to those who do not. Take some power away from women in sex and dating and give a little more to men through legal, governmental and social means. When one gender has a lot more power than the other, both genders will lose in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:48 PM
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He's not dating a point down though, he's dating well below him. Additionally, what you're describing is the epitome of a gynocentric society that is geared towards benefiting women and oppressing men. I don't see how you can claim that a guy who's average looking and college educated wanting to be with a woman who's average looking and college educated would be construed as trying to date above your league. ]If that is the case then measures need to be taken to make things more equal and level …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:37 PM
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I'd be very flattered and would think it's great but, most women do not believe in equality and are sort of sexist so, I couldn't imagine a heterosexual woman ever actually doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:30 PM
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I have but, it is real rare. Homelessness is primarily a male issue, I rarely come across women who is permanently homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:24 PM
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So you're saying that a man who wants his equivalent has elevated and unrealistic standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:22 PM
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I don't consider the whole, "taking what you can get" mindset to be standards. Maybe we have differing operant definitions of "standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:12 PM
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I would strongly disagree, I grew up in a real low income neighborhood full of drug/alcohol addicted white folk, ghetto ass black folk and illegal immigrants. Now that I am surrounded with more intelligent and educated people, the way people behave is like night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:04 PM
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They will call a woman an ugly slut if she does NOT have sex with him. Lady, surround yourself with better men, because that is some femcel level of generalizations. Maybe the men I know are different. I have a grad level education and damn near everyone else I know has a masters or bachelors and I still see these guys dating women that their female equivalents would never want anything to do with. Most men don't have standards. Women always have standards irrespective of how low they are on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:57 PM
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Nope, that's irrelevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:49 PM
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Really? I would beg to differ. Men don't overestimate their looks and value. The lowest self-esteem and self-loathing I see is among men. Women tend to overvalue themselves but, it is socially acceptable for them because first, they can and second, society is gynocentric and will support their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:47 PM
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No empathy is when you try to imagine being in someone's situation. Agreeing with someone has nothing to do with empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:41 PM
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No, these men are these women's significant others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:38 PM
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I would say women get more than +1. A woman who is a 4-5 is the male equivalent of a man who's a 7-8. We can change this though, if we raised men to be assertive and have self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:34 PM
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Most of that is attributed to her decision to stay with him. Because a woman if she so wanted to, could dump that guy she's been with for over a decade and replace him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:19 PM
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Men have standards. They're just usually really low. That doesn't help the situation though, dating will continue to be horrible for men and favor women if men maintain this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:16 PM
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I know guys with masters degrees who are willing to date people that their female equivalent wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. I also find men with moral integrity, a strong value system, and standards to be much more desirable in general. Exactly, I think women would have more respect for men if they actually established and maintained firm standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:12 PM
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Not just women that need social services, women in general actually have some standards. Maybe it's because women actually have more dating experience on average than men therefore, they are able to know what they would want and what they would refuse to be with. Men just take whatever they can get, I have encountered female equivalents to male inkels and these women have a significant other and that man is well above them, SMV wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:07 PM
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They don't though, they might claim that they do but, they don't maintain them. Women talk the talk and walk the walk, they will actually maintain their standards and put their money where their mouth is. Men always claim they do but, when push comes to shove, they're dating exactly what they claimed was not up to their standards. I honestly think most men just have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:02 PM
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I think it would be good for women, women might actually respect men again if we had respect for ourselves and held them to some sort of standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:58 PM
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Doesn't matter whether you have a uterus or no uterus, hold people to some damn standards and have some respect for yourself. And many of the guys I know who have little to no standards are not basement dwelling losers either, they're regular guys with a middle class or upper middle class income. I think the disregard for standards comes from male self-hatred. At least women have some self-respect and self-love to draw a line in the sand refuse to have anything to do with a man if he doesn't mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:55 PM
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I know a man who has a double bachelors in mathematics and education. He has a decent job as a high school teacher, makes about $60k a year. He's also average looking, not an ugly guy at all and he's dating a fat single mother who has her GED. Now think about it, his female equivalent, a woman who's 27, has a double bachelors in math/education and has a decent job would actually have standards. There is no way in hell his female equivalent would be dating a fat single father who has his GED. it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:51 PM
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Because it's a dishonest, apples and oranges comparison. I work in the mental health/social services field and the most disheveled, deranged and psychotic woman, has a boyfriend, fiance or husband as well as maybe family and friends for support There male equivalents, disheveled, deranged and psychotic men are on and off homeless, have little to no family or friends let alone having a fiance, girlfriend or a wife. I don't think women truly understand that the "untouchables" of society are real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:15 PM
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Is it because it makes people uncomfortable when they realize that most women don't have much empathy for men? I don't see how it's off topic but whatever, do what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:07 PM
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Many women are already doing that though, there are plenty of average regular guys or slightly below average guys who are inkels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:55 PM
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Damn, that woman privilege is surreal. No wonder so many men are going trans. Being a woman must be amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:52 PM
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then they consider themselves a failure in a sexual sense THEY don't necessarily consider themselves a failure but, other women in their life will shame them and consider them a failure. The whole "girrrrll you can do better" and "he ain't shit" or "he's uugly" or "he's broke" stuff starts and other women will try to peer pressure that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:49 PM
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Only a small portion of men are creating those high N women though. You cannot blame regular guys for that. Also, women don't have to sleep with those guys, they're actively choosing to further enable and reward those guys shitty actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:46 PM
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I don't think men are primarily motivated by sex, it is just that most men don't have much sex or don't have the ability to have much sex. Where as damn near any woman in the west can pump and dump men at their heart's content irrespective of their looks or status. It's like saying that this emaciated guy is motivated by food, not really. It's just that he doesn't get much food so when the opportunity is there, he wants food. Once he's getting a regular supply of food, his motivations will chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:38 PM
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Average looking but knows how to doll her self up when she wants to. Enjoys working out, holds herself to a high standard and holds her man to a high standard as well as the people around her. Pretty moderate when it comes to her politics, has strong family values and rejects the individualistic hedonist mindset, doesn't regularly get drunk or use other substances regularly, wants to be a mother and is pretty self-reliant but, truly appreciates having a man in her life, knows how to ride a motor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 09:26 PM
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I don't think female solipsism is a RP idea, it's pretty empirical. The problem is that, many of these guys cannot accept that there are communities out there where this sort of stuff does not exist or if it does exist, it is pretty uncommon. In more collectivist societies, all these things they carry on about, female solipsism, hook up culture, infidelity and divorce rape are not the norm. Last time I looked into it, religious or traditional couples divorce rate was around 1/4, there rates of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 12:18 AM
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Yup, it was antifa or some other radical group that attacked a woman who was going to speak at a men's rights conference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:01 PM
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Nope, they want society to revolve around benefiting women and women's betterment irrespective of how negatively that affects men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:00 PM
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Oh grow up already, feminist groups are not "egalitarian" groups, they're essentially lobbying groups for women. Feminist groups for women are like AIPAC for Israel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:59 PM
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Agreed, it's just that people should stop lying to men. Go to any mainstream meta sub or inceltears and menslib. The advice they give is ridiculously absurd. It's pathetic and sad. They honestly suggest that a low socioeconomic status man who is unattractive can get a girlfriend by a captivating personality and "confidence". It's as if they hold a carrot in front of these men and then yank it away at the last moment, why can't they just stop lying to these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:35 PM
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You're right, the race pill, the height pill and the age pill are some of the most uncomfortable truths that many people refuse to acknowledge. The amount of delusion within the minds of redditors pertaining to that bagel fellow who had a mental break was ridiculous. hur dur "if only he would work on xyz, he would very likely get a girlfriend". The bloke was 4'11" and balding for crying out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:20 PM
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also, attractiveness is not objective at all. Yes it is, I cannot think of any major society or community that finds short, balding men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:18 PM
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Yes, because men seem to fall in the extremes. Men are more likely to be a binary, good looking or unattractive. Women seem to fall more in the middle. At least in their 20s and 30s, most women seem to fall in the average or decent looking category. Most women with some minor make-up, doing their hair up and putting on a nice dress with heels and voila, they're decent looking now. Men unfortunately, you could put a guy in a three piece Givenchy suit and if he's unattractive, odds are he'll look …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:16 PM
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please don't destroy this sub by lousy agenda driven over moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:10 PM
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Sure, some women will gladly go on welfare. That's what it's for. Almost all welfare goes to women. Besides, if not they can just make a decent living on their own and support themselves or their kid. Women have welfare, abortion, contraception and a gynocentric society that will bend over backwards to care for them. Women don't need men, many don't want men, many do not want to be bothered by their presence, they're not bemoaning the "wall", they just don't care. That's the only way to explain …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:05 PM
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many men get more attractive as they age. Most women decrease in attractiveness as they age. Dude how long will you keep this delusional going for? It's just not true, nobody is lusting after old man dick and young women are definitely not lusting after middle aged men or old men. Serious question, do you believe this delusion to keep your ego protected? I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:53 PM
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It's a delusional fantasy, I cannot even "debate" them on it because their entire premise is ludicrous from the get go. Women who are 18-25 are not yearning for some 41 year old guy to ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:11 PM
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I'm a male not a female but, I agree with your sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:48 PM
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Nope, most couples are age matched or within 5 years of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:41 PM
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Oh come on now bud, you've got to be taking a piss now. Most mgtows don't need to avoid relationships with women, many of them are low tier or incels in denial. Mgtows claiming that they're avoiding relationships with women would be the equivalent of a homeless addict claiming that he's avoiding job offers. You and I must live in an alternative universe because women are not desperate, its literally the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:40 PM
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It never even began for pubertycels
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:38 AM
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I drive a K20, it's fun to redline and reasonable to maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:37 AM
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I wasn't trying to make a comparison there, it is just that I see more men hitting the wall than women. I keep seeing this whole "wall" thing about women turning into withered old hags that become unwanted and what I'm seeing is the exact opposite. The thirst is so bad that middle age women are still easily getting dates and relationships. Also, the middle age gym going women I know are objectively more attractive than the gym going middle aged men I know. I guarantee you that those women would …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:06 AM
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She'll have options just not the ones she wants. Well at least she'll still have options, many of us men have never had much of any options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:48 AM
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I'm an SI guy myself Vtech for the win :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:42 AM
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Yup, it's 2019 and women pump and dump men regularly in this day and age. Even Chads get pumped and dumped and thrown to the side like a used dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:39 AM
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Dude this whole, "young women want to fuck men much older than them" thing is just false. I don't know what sort of debate you want to have on it? A woman in her teens, I mean Pitt and Beckham are tremendously older than her. Women get creeped out by men double their age trying to fuck them, most are not into it. I think a lot of you guys are mistaking porn for reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:36 AM
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One of the women I work with use to be a cheerleader when she went to university and now at 33 she still looks fine. Of course 20 year old cheerleader version of her was probably more attractive but, at 33 with two kids she still looks nice, has very pretty eyes and a nice smile. I don't see how she's "hitting the wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:34 AM
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I'm not trying to be mean or anything but, I really find much of what you're saying hard to believe. You stated that you're a fat middle aged man who's balding and divorced but, you're also claiming that you were dating a 19 year old? Not trying to be mean but, I just do not find that believable, I'd have to see it to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:28 AM
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Many people have made good points about seperating the reproductive wall from the looks wall so, I am having my views changed somewhat but, many of the other responses are the same old diatribe about "women not being able to get top tier men" shtick. Not every woman wants to marry a super hot dude, many have probably slept with those guys during their youth so, they don't care as much as they get older. A lot of men project their insecurities onto women, since many men were never able to sleep w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:26 AM
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A lot of these guys are rejecting a very important component to men's attraction for women which is, that most of us men are attracted to women instinctively. Out of the two actual relationships I've been in, one was with a woman who was incredibly attractive, the other was with a woman who was fairly average and plain Jane. I was so much more attracted to the average looking woman than the super hot one. We just connected better, it's like that instinctual desire to pair bond kicked in, it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:18 AM
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I'm a man in his late 20s and I find women in their late teens all the way up to their early 50s attractive but, something I have noticed the older I get is that my age preference in women has always stayed the same. Every time I feel like I really connect with a woman or feel real attracted to her, she always end up being a year or two younger than me. When I was 25, I really liked a woman who was 23, when I was 21, I really liked a woman who was 20. My age preference of a year or two has alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:02 AM
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Yeah it's crazy. I even know women in their 50s who are still getting dates regularly while even decent looking 20 something men can barely get a message or text back. It's crazy how low men's value is when it comes to sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:58 PM
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Most Chads keep their looks unless they get real into drugs and alcohol, look at Harrison Ford. The man is real old but, he's still a handsome bastard. The thing is though, Chads and Chadlites make up less than 20% of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:56 PM
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Most girls in their teens and 20s would fuck Brad Pitt or David Beckham or Adam Lavigne. Many would not, I don't know why you're making these assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:52 PM
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Women are predisposed to be attracted to older more established men. Dude, this is a very self-serving assumption and I do not think it is necessarily true. Most women prefer their age match when it comes to sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:49 PM
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I really don't know what planet you guys are living on? A woman will always have more options and SMV than a man, it's just how things are in this gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:47 PM
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I'm a guy in his late 20s and I like the refinded older beauty look but, you are probably right with the last part of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:46 PM
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I've seen some men hit the wall at puberty and unless those terrible unattractive guys are pulling in 6 figures later in life than it is all over for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:42 PM
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Okay, you make some very good points, it is just that a lot of the RP stuff on youtube and reddit make it sound like women are withered hags once they get into their 30s and that no man will want them besides a hideous broke ghoul. Some of the RP youtubers are so hyperbolic about it. From what I've seen, is that more men are hitting the wall before women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:40 PM
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Most of them are not single, a small few are. My main point is that I keep hearing this notion of, the wall the wall the wall this the wall that and I'm a dude in his late 20s and many of the women I work with who are in their 30s and 40s look fine. They're still pretty good looking women. I'm wondering what wall these guys on youtube are always carrying on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:38 PM
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Hey I like your torque-horsepower corollary, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:35 PM
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I would have to completely disagree, some men hit the wall during puberty and others hit it when they're still only making $12 an hour in their 30s and they're average or below average looking. Women will typically always have more dating/sexual value than men unless it is a very specific case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:34 PM
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I'm a man my dude, why do you think I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:17 PM
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I agree with you on that but, the same issue exist with mgtows claiming that they don't want women and reject the ones who feign interest in them so, you do make a valid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:17 PM
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Dude, I'm a man. Why would this bitter truth be my revenge fantasy? Women don't need us, they have a gynocentric society and big daddy government there for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:15 PM
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Exactly, I work with probably around 80% to 85% women and the women I work with who are 35 or so, sure they don't look as good as they did when they were 21 but, many of them still look just fine. Some of them have a more classier form of prettiness now with how they do their makeup and dress. It's a different kind of attractiveness opposed to the super hot 20 year old with tiny cut off high wasted shorts on with a tube top. Nobody unless they're nuts or super bitter would look at the women I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:39 PM
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I'm not blue pill though, the blue pill has its own form of delusion, I'm just exposing the RP delusion with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:35 PM
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Yeah those old ladies at the ripe old age of 30 with their barren wombs. Women at 30 are still incredibly sought after, most women have kids their early 30s now as opposed to their 20s, at least that is the case in most of the major cities now in the USA. Top men can get hot young girls, so why would they date 30/40 somethings? I beg to differ, hot young women want men their own age, or just slightly older. when a young woman says that she likes "older men", what she means is that she likes men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:31 PM
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the saints are still marching in for grandma grandma's got a richer sex life than many men half her age Women in their 70s, 80s and 90s can still get dates and get laid if they so choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:23 PM
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They can get commitment, not every woman is yearning for it. You guys are still living in the 80s where you think every woman is begging for a nice fella to come and marry her and stay committed to her for life. Plenty of women don't want to have kids, get married or even be in a monogamous relationship. Also, increasing rates of women are bisexual now so who's to say that they're taking a break from men and dating women for a while. Also women who are 35 can still have children and will still b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:19 PM
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Sorry, I only started following this sub a month ago
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:11 PM
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There is no wall
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:19 PM
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There is no wall, it's a delusional revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:19 PM
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I would say it did the expect opposite, men have some of the lowest standards I have ever seen. Porn has only made men thirstier and more desperate than ever. Any woman can hit well above her weight dating, sex or relationship wise while most men cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:18 PM
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No girl is turned off by guy being nice You'd be surprised, I have definitely known women who are. Of course not all of them are like that. Some women who view sex as a transactional type act will be confused as to why some men are being so kind of nice. They're way of thinking is that, "well, I'm not sleeping with him, why is he being so kind to me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:13 PM
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The femcels aren't actual femcels though, I've browsed that sub and many of them have been in actual relationships and have had sex. Femcels and incels are apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:23 PM
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Because many of them think that everything will magically change once that woman finally meets "the one". Blue pillers are just as naive and absurd as red pillers but, in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:51 PM
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I mean the quality of her past sexual partners says a lot about herself and her possible values and belief structures. If a woman that I might be in a relationship with tells me about how she has dated and fucked men who were abusive, committed armed robbery, never took care of their children so on and so forth, I would be suspect. I was disappointed when some guys were ranting and raving about how they would fuck Casey Anthony, it's like dude, she's pretty shitty. There are cute women out there…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:53 AM
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Yes it matters but, within reason. I care because someone with an incredibly high N count would likely have values incompatible with myself. Once again, within reason though. This might sound stupid to some people but, I would be more worried as to what kind of men she's slept with as opposed to how many. If she was sleeping with piece of shit deadbeats who have a bunch of kids that they don't claim, then I would be very suspect of her. If she had sex with a men who have been in and out of priso…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:39 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:08 PM
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I use to think it was a meme for a long time as well but, it is not. The whole cuckholding or "wife sharing" thing is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:06 PM
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Most of the Redpill stuff is nonsense but, when it comes to the hardships of sex and dating, many women are going to be incredibly delusional because they're in such a tremendous position of unearned power and privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 04:58 PM
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You are absolutely spot on, boys from a young age are taught that they should just be nice, be a good person, be yourself and treat women like you would anyone else and you'll get a girlfriend. They grow up and realize that everything that they have been told is complete nonsene.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:22 PM
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Yup, same thing with suicide as well. It's only publicized heavily when it was a pretty 17 year old cheerleader type even though it is almost entirely middle age men who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:36 PM
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No she isn't invisible, especially if she is still of child bearing years then she definitely is not invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:33 PM
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Many women are awful and vapid though, the problem is that most mgtows act like those traits primarily particularly affect women. Many men are like that as well but, are more covert about it because they cannot get away with it the way women. Deep down inside I think most mgtows just want to be as overtly vapid and shallow as women but, are upset that they cannot live life that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 07:35 PM
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Yup, you have unearned power and privilege but at least you're honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:57 PM
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Now you're just being smug and condescending. Not sure why you're telling me to calm down or saying that I'm sensitive. You purposely misrepresented what I stated and then I corrected you. You did it because you have no poignant or insightful statements to add but now, you're displaying a sense of patronizing superiority with the "I can tell you're sensitive" or by saying "you disgusting incel lol Go see a hooker" This sub filled with smug trolls such as yourself who think they have the moral hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:59 PM
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Mens rights people do try to do more than just be on the internet, the woman who was going to speak at a conference got attacked in Portland recently. It doesn't sound like people want to help them. Because men aren't entitled to womens body you disgusting incel lol Go see a hooker What the fuck is wrong with you, I clearly stated that I don't think the root of the problem is that men aren't getting laid my literal comment was I don't think the issue is that men aren't getting sex, the issue is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:08 PM
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But that's my point, women don't care about the rampant inequality and unfairness that men face but, look at all the men who go to the women's march and support feminist causes. Men as a whole care a million times more for women where as most women do not care much at all about men because society is gynocentric. It further asserts that women are the privileged ones and men and underprivileged. I don't think scrawny short omegas should rise up, I just find it interesting that the same people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:29 PM
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I see what you're saying but, since all of society is designed around benefiting women and prioritizing their betterment. You'd think that even a national conversation about the rampant inequality and unfairness as it pertains to sex and dating would be reasonable but, if you even mention it, people get so pissed off. Mention it on any mainstream default type sub and people will be so quick to call you a lunatic piece of shit incel type. Even though it's a legitimate issue and is a cause for con…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:07 PM
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To be fair though, the people who are so anti-incel are the primary people who rant and rave about the dire consequences of rampant inequality and unfairness but, when some men bring this form of inequality and unfairness to the forefront, everyone wants to all of a sudden look the other way and claim "just deal with it", "man up". We could definitely make sex and dating more equal but, since it heavily favors women and society is so terribly gynocentric, people are not even going to speculate a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 04:47 PM
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Lady a lot of people are on SSRIs and SNRIs, those drugs cause major sexual dysfunction. Also, many men just do not get laid often, I mean the more you do it, the better you'll get as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:09 AM
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You're objectively a bad person if that's what you take out of all of this. It's not bullying that's the issue, it's that an unattractive mentally ill midget is fucked as soon as he enters adulthood and the fact that people want to pile on and make a consolidated effort to oppress him further shows a complete lack of empathy for low tier down trodden men. I also don't see how he's a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:12 AM
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Yes, because an unattractive mentally ill midget has likely been treated like shit for most of his adult life but, no one has any empathy for oppressed demographics of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:00 AM
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"Were literally property" More nonsense, it was literally the opposite. Most men were viewed as nothing more than human farming equipment, human mining equipment, tools of war so on and so forth. Women have always been more privileged because each woman was valued bu default. You have been so brainwashed into this feminist nonsense. You refuse to acknowledge that society is gynocentric and revolves around Male disposability and expandability. Please stop reading whatever nonsense that you chose …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 01:26 AM
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The Rock is a 6'4" juice head multimillionaire. You cannot compare him to the rest of the male population. I mean fewer than 1% of men are millionaires, I'd also wager that fewer than 1% of men are 6'4". Also, many women do not find him attractive, same goes with Vin Diesel. They're more of an acquired taste. Most women would go with that guy who plays Thor, Chris Evans or Jason Mamoa. Like I said, men's attraction for women varies a lot more. Plenty of men swoon over short women who are overwei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:33 PM
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I mean it's sort of true albeit the person is being a little hyperbolic but, in the grand scheme of things, the type of men women generally find desirable are very similar whereas the types of women that men find desirable has a lot of variance. Although I think this has more to do with a lot of men just taking what they can get. Women generally find sort of tall or tall men with a full head of hair and average to athletic build attractive. I cannot think of any culture or society with women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:05 PM
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You do know most men don't want that right? Men and women agree or disagree with abortion at similar rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:24 PM
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A modicum of sacrifice would be worth the familial/social supports and social status that comes with having a family. I would wager that a lot of this incel/migtoe stuff comes from a lack of societal and familial support. Since society is gynocentric and reveres women, they don't have to go through most of these hardships. Remember, people are social animals, most people won't do well with little to no support. They'll slowly go crazy or become increasingly socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 06:16 PM
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I don't know about that, relationships wise and sexually, most men don't consider them women. Many men want a family but sucks to suck, that won't happen for a lot of them. That's a privilege reserved for almost every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:58 PM
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just go get a sex change already if you think women have it so much better. Funny thing, a lot of guys are. Transgenderism is almost entirely unidirectional. It is almost entirely men becoming women and not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:46 PM
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Neither of those are entitlement though. People just throw that word around frivolously. Also, nice guys and inceltears are just hate/bullying subs at this point because they never took the initiative to police their own subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:40 PM
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Nope, it's a consequence of the fact that society values women more than it does men. Thus making them a privileged class. It does not matter whether a man is in a position of power when that man is likely gynocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:29 PM
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I would assert that European white women are the most privileged demographic to ever exist, they get benefits of being white and a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:28 PM
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That's irrelevant when society is gynocentric and prioritizes women's betterment and benefit. Also, spare me the what women do with their bodies nonsense. No one is suggesting that we hold women at gun point and force them to have sex and conceive a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:26 PM
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In various aspects of life, yes men are weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:15 AM
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How do I have sour grapes? I didn't even know about her until a week ago. Most people on this sub are using the whole, "it's legal and capitalism therefore its okay" argument but, just because something is legal doesn't mean its acceptable and I for one do not think that her behavior should be further enabled, encouraged and rewarded. Society should hold people to incredibly high standards and shame those who refuse to try to meet those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:17 AM
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Because in various aspects of life men have very little power therefore they are prone and susceptible to exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:10 AM
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Yup, further asserting the fact that her and most women in general have tremendous unearned power and privilege. Women are a privileged class, men are underprivileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:56 AM
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He wasn't a sleaze around young girls. They weren't even having sex. He was probably lonely and unable to find another significant other. Men do not have the unearned power and privilege of being able to find a new partner on the drop of a dime like women can. You're showing your obvious disdain for men by calling that person a sleaze instead of the woman who's taking advantage of and exploiting a lonely person that probably just wants some closeness in his life. Typical gynocentric view of thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:52 AM
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I agree but, so much of this commodification of men as well as other bad traits/attributes of men are directly enabled, propagated and rewarded by women but, women will intern blame men themselves for this and bring up nonsense such as "toxic masculinity" in order to give themselves plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:57 PM
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Because she's making a living off of preying on a demographic of incredibly vulnerable sad and lonely losers. A few years ago I knew a woman who was doing the whole sugar baby/sugar daddy thing. I didn't give shit because they're both consenting adults so whatever, you do you. Eventually when I learned that she wasn't even having sex with the guy, the guy was some sad sack widower whose wife died a few years back, was when their relationship started to creep me out. Like a vulture circling a wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:47 PM
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Oh believe me pal, I know that men aren't special. Not only do men lack the privilege of being viewed as a special interest group or population, they're barely viewed as having any sort of feelings in general. Also, you're spot on about capitalism being a major contributor to this. Men are essentially viewed as nothing more than atomized commodities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:40 PM
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It's unethical because she's exploiting a demographic of lonely, sad men and further attempting to use her unearned power and privilege to oppress them even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:28 PM
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She's definitely unethical and immoral, she's exploiting sad, lonely loser men. The only reason it's acceptable is because it's a woman doing that to men. If it was the other way around, people would be furious. Since men's happiness or lack thereof are not cared for in this gynocentric society then the actions of women regarding their exploitation of men are deemed acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:27 PM
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Because she's taking advantage of and exploiting losers, that's why. She's unethical and immoral, she has too much unearned power and privilege. The men who giver her money are also disgusting and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:05 PM
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Nah, both parties are gross, disgusting and pathetic. She's a gross thot and the men are pathetic. Why would you give money to some random person?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:54 PM
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She's a woman taking advantage of this gynocentric society and leveraging her tremendous unearned power and privilege to help her get ahead and live an easy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:49 PM
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Yup, the entire concept of the "sexual market value" although it is valid and it is a good way to describe sex and dating in anglosphere, with all that said, it is a sad and depressing way to look at things. Judging men as commodities instead of human beings is also probably why there's this whole incel/migtoe thing going around. Knitpicking a guy with the whole, "well he's a 5/10 but only $36k a year so he doesn't meet my standards", I don't think people have any idea how awful that makes most …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 10:14 PM
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It's just a completely different culture in the anglosphere. Like I said, relationships, marriage and monogamy are not valued here. Individualism and ego-centrism are what's valued. Collectivist societies are different, family and your relationships with others (i.e. coworkers, neighbors) are what are valued the most. In grad school I knew a guy who came to the USA to study, he's from Lebanon. What he said was fascinating, "in Lebanon my home was my village and my family were my parents, sisters…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 09:49 PM
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You have realize that in countries such as the USA, Canada, UK, Australia so on and so forth, the cultures are very different. People in those countries do not value, relationships, marriage, monogamy and family nearly as much as people in other countries. That's why you see the whole migtoe, radical feminism and inceldom phenomenons creeping up in those countries. The countries that you mentioned, Greece, Spain, Philippines, Thailand etc. etc. have cultures that are a lot more family oriented. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 09:25 PM
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Women won't be the only ones pushing it, I see more and more men who are okay with cuckholdry, wife sharing or swinging. It's going to get real bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 09:14 PM
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I guarantee you that polygamy and polyandry are going to be the next big social justice movement. More and more women are going to share one man and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:19 PM
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Social stigma for women has almost entirely been removed. You're not allowed to hold women to much of any standards anymore but for men, social stigma for men is becoming more exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:01 PM
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You have a very antiquated view of things. Most men are not head of the household or in charge of the family. Most women aren't married to a plastic surgeon that makes $400k while they stay at home and raise the kids. Most couples are very nearly income matched and women are generally the ones who are head of the household and run the relationship. Out of all the couples I know, I only know one man who runs the relationship and that's the woman who's married to an Ophthalmologist. Every other re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:49 PM
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I never said that people should feel guilty about it. I'm not saying people should actively try to make their lives worse and self-flaggelate Also, I have been lifting weights almost everyday for over a decade so my test levels are probably flipping alright but, that doesn't take away from the fact that women are the privileged class and men are underprivileged. Have you ever wondered why people being transgender is almost entirely unidirectional? It's almost entirely men wanting to become women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:48 PM
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He said "the more useful you are to women". It's not just women but society in general. Men make up society as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 12:02 AM
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Nope, the more useful you are to society in general, the higher your status. Remember, women will always be useful and have value by default therefore, the lowest woman is always higher than the lowest man. Men must make themselves valuable in order to receive any sort of attention, care or interest by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:57 PM
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We should probably start with defining what low status actually means to you Status in general for men can be summed up into a triad. Men are judged by three things in society, how much wealth they have, how physically attractive they are and how many women they can attract. If you are a man and you don't at least have 1/3 going for you, then you are deemed to be incredibly low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:44 PM
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I don't think it's women that don't care about male suffering, it's society in general. Men contribute to this problem as well. Something I've noticed about low status undesirable men is that not only do women not want to affiliate with them, other men do not want to as well. Men want to distance themselves from these men because they don't want women to think that they are low status and undesirable themselves. They don't want that undesirable/low status stink rubbing off on them. So eventually…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:22 PM
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that they think other people have That's where you're wrong though, it's not that men "think" that, it's that men know that. It's a part of the objective discrepancy amongst men and women where women are valued more, cared about more and are more likely to receive affection/social support just because they're a woman. Maybe there would be less lunatic inkels or mgtards if people were actually willing to be nicer to men, willing to care about them more and more willing to give them support and af…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:03 PM
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You're not getting it, this isn't about me. This is about the way things are. You're not grasping that you have so much more unearned power and privilege than almost all men. This goes far deeper than men not being able to get a girlfriend or being salty that they cannot get laid. It's an example of how gynocentric society is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:55 PM
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I'd have to strongly disagree. Women are without a doubt the privileged sex. Women are born with value by default, women are cared for by default because women are required to continue civilization. They can have children and are more sought after for social support and friendships. Men have to attain value. Almost all women can start families and have intimate relationships if they so choose by default. Men cannot, they have to prove themselves worthy enough to have a significant other or to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:22 PM
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What? It's not a personal problem at all. It's a societal problem. I'm a counselor and my current load of people that I'm working with are homeless men or ugly mentally ill men. None of these men I'm consoling have any access to affection or social/intimate supports. The fact that you have access to affection and social/intimate supports whenever you want is an objective privilege and a blessing. You're very blessed to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:00 PM
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The only way someone would feel guilt free about unearned power and privileged is if they're completely self-absored and narcissistic. I'm not saying people should actively try to make their lives worse and self-flaggelate. But, i hope you know that your life is exponentially easier than most men's. I would take menstrual cramps any day over the shit most men have to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:45 PM
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I just know that at any moment there’s a handful of men who would propose to me if I made it even slightly apparent I would be into it. Wow, being a woman must feel amazing. So much unearned power and privileged
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:36 PM
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It's not necessarily that they're desperate, it's that most men have little to no options therefore they take whatever they can get. Remember, the ladies have 99% of the power and privilege when it comes to sex, dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:29 PM
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Because it's intellectually dishonest, these men were sent their own way. If you're a physically unattractive guy who makes a lower status income then you're already going you're own way. Odds are women won't want you to begin with. All the lying about how, "I can fuck attractive women if I want to" and the nonsense about "the wall". Mgtow is a bunch of drivel it's a psyop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 04:52 PM
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I don't know, during his E.R. days damn near every woman loved 30 something George Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 07:54 PM
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I find most of those women pretty damn attractive, I didn't know that's what is considered an average woman. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 10:52 PM
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Well think about all the women who didn't come out about Weinstein because they thought they got a decent deal out of it. Whitney Cummins on the Joe Rogan experience talked about this in detail mentioning that several dozens didn't come out because they thought it was worth it. Unfortunately the world runs off of quid pro quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:10 PM
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In order to date an American guy, I have to spend like $200 a month on my appearance and also work full-time. No offense but you sound really entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:59 PM
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I don't really affiliate with the manosphere so I don't care what they say or do but, to deny that there are plenty of women out there who use sex and sexuality to get ahead would be intellectually dishonest. Look at Jennifer Lawrence for example, she fucked that fat disgusting pig Weinstein to be a part of the The Hunger Games saga. I guarantee you that she's made probably $25-$30 million dollars from being a part of those films. Seems like a pretty pragmatic use of her sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:53 PM
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I'd beg to differ, female sexuality is generally more predatory because women can use sex to receive favors, gifts, jobs or money. Men cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:49 PM
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Why should it die? Many women use sex as a transactional commodity and many women don't do that. Both can be true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:45 PM
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Women view sex through the lens of abundance while men view it through the lens of scarcity. Damn near any woman can get laid while there will always be a portion of the Male population who will not be able to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:45 PM
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I think their main trigger is the realization that women will always have all the leverage and power as it pertains to sex and dating. I know some people here will deny it but, the proof is in the pudding. I have a decent friends group and some of the guys who are single, their female equivalent would have no trouble meeting someone. I have a friend who's average looking, he's on the shorter side though. He has a bachelors in special ed and is pursuing a masters, he works as a high school teache…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 04:22 PM
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There's no such thing as a "fuck girl". Any woman can have as much casual sex as she wants. Women don't need to be charismatic, misleading and manipulative in order to get laid or attract a significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:10 PM
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Because looks equals power for both men and women. A man or woman who is ugly and makes a lower status income does not have much power to screw people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:03 PM
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The controversy around that sub was hilarious, redditors really are resistant to the fact that it is predominately looks, money and status that drive women's attraction. There are certain things that society will never openly acknowledge because it makes them uncomfortable. Guys also need to accept this and not be terribly salty about it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:00 PM
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Men simply do not hit on her See that's entitlement, why doesn't she hit on men? Most women are single by choice if they're single. There's far too many men who would be willing to date, marry or spend time with almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:11 AM
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Nope because its an apples and oranges comparison. Let me give you the example of two of my friends who are single, one Male, one female. The female is tall (not super tall, probably 5'10"). She's been single for a while now but, she gets taken out on dates regularly. She has a eharmony and match profile. Men ask her out all the time, she receives plenty of attention. She feels unattracted or incompatible with the men that take her out or Express interest in her. She's single by choice. She feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:12 AM
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Ahh that makes sense. I do think that tall women unless they're absurdly tall, feeling insecure about their height is silly though. I think you are correct about the insecurity thing, its women's distorted thoughts and sense of entitlement which makes them feel unattracted to short men. Insecurity is a thought error on this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:33 PM
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I'm interested at what you mean when you stated that women don't want to date short men because of their insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 10:20 PM
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I don't know if "consider" is the best word. It's more of the fact that the shitty things women do to men and can do to men are considered more socially acceptable. Women can get away with a lot more nastiness than men can because the expectation is that men will keep their emotions in check and just man up and deal with it whenever bad things happen to them or when things don't go their way. Women and society in general actually holds men to much higher standards than it holds women to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 10:07 PM
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With your close friend that you've known for several years or with your therapist, that's pretty much it. Women claim they want men to be more vulnerable and open with their emotions but remember, judge women by what they do instead of what they say. Men who come across as vulnerable are generally not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 12:43 AM
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I know right, it's the tea calling the kettle black. Women's ego is through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:33 PM
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Yup, most men have no standards so of course women are going to assume that you as well have no standards or self respect as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:17 PM
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A man's vibe is generally based off of how good looking he is. Good looking men give off a positive vibe because women associate positive traits with good looks. This whole pseudo spiritual nonsense about the "vibe" a man gives off is much ado about nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:06 PM
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