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Question For WomenBeautifulThoughtes/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:52 AM
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Oh yeah, that changes everything /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:14 AM
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Justifies? No. Is it expected? Of course. You're going to get shitty comments from people no matter what you post if you're semi-famous on a public platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:06 AM
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Casual sex is just selfish pleasure. Literally using someone else's body to get off as though they're a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:28 AM
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Then please explain where I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:20 AM
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Because she's making posts on a public platform where her body is the primary focus? And she's obviously very overweight? And your point most definitely is about her weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:19 AM
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Would he have been fine if the woman he married actually loved him, yes or no? Dude explained pretty clearly that he had absolutely no problem providing for his wife, was faithful through the entirety of his marriage, and bent over backwards to try to make things work. If what he's saying is true, he's the archetypal husband. The only thing his childhood trauma caused was allowing this woman to step all over him for 7 years due to low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:15 AM
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She's fat. Her thighs are massive and she has literal belly rolls. Stop trying to normalize fatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:08 AM
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Watched the whole thing. Childhood trauma didn't "ruin his ability with women." All it did was facilitate the ability for a woman to manipulate him for 7 years. Dude would have been fine if the woman he married actually loved him, trauma or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:06 AM
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Humans are gross and this physical existence is a curse CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:15 AM
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Nina is a manipulative psycho and Gisele is old. I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:36 PM
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Ahahaha wait, I was thinking of someone else when you said Nina Agdol. No, Nina Agdol is not a prize, and Logan Paul is being clowned all over social media for marrying such a floozy. Most men would avoid--just like Amber Heard. Both toxic walking red-flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:57 PM
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It's like a bunch of losers walking around and telling the world how much they'd hate to have a duct tape, meanwhile they can't afford to buy one at the local dollar tree. But they DONT WANT it anyways. Why would it matter if they can't afford it when they aren't in the market anyways? Especially if they give genuine reasons as to WHY they don't want it. You're still semi-acting as though most men want single moms. The straight up factual truth is that single motherhood is NOT a desirable trait …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:49 PM
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But what you aren't understanding is that being with a single mom is not a "success" to most men. You're basing your argument with the assumption that men want single moms, which just isn't true for a majority of men. It's like you've created a trophy out of duct tape and you're waving it in men's faces going, "ohhh, i know you want this so bad, but you can't have it, losers." And the men are going...."i never wanted that in the first place. It's just not valuable to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:00 PM
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The premise of your argument is essentially, "you aren't allowed to have opinions on people that reject you, even if that rejection is theoretical. But I'm sure you have a lot of opinions on your parents. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:43 PM
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Exactly. So what is "not being rejected" by single moms proving? Nothing. And I'm allowed to have opinions of single moms, just like I'm allowed to have opinions on Gisele Bundchen and Harvard. Even if i'm "pre-rejected," that doesn't mean I can't say single motherhood is an undesirable trait and if given the option I would never choose to date a single mother. Just like I wouldn't date Gisele Budchen because she's a decade older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:18 PM
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I mean, they aren't being rejected by single moms because most aren't asking out single moms to begin with. Your logic is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:03 PM
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Insinuating men are trying to attract single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:23 PM
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Do you not have eyes? Why would you need a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:19 PM
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Are you kidding? Are you just ignoring the fact that people leave their partners/cheat all the time, and it's always with someone that looks better/is wealthier/has more to offer? People spend their entire lives working in order to upgrade. New house, new car, new phone--bigger, better, newer, fancier is literally the driving force of the economy. Also, you're in the extreme minority of people who wouldn't accept a brand new car for free because of "wastefulness."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:06 PM
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Hypergamy is just a matter of human nature. People love to upgrade to bigger, better, newer models. If you're driving around in a Corolla and you're given the option to upgrade to an S-class free of charge without any strings attached, most people aren't going to be loyal to their corolla. They're going to ditch it and never look back. Relationships are the same way, and it's the reason loyalty is such a valuable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:49 PM
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100%. Money, personality, and status only matter in the context of long-term relationships, but the fact that dating has become so casual means that looks supersede everything. Fact of the matter is there aren't enough stable chads available, which leaves women with two options: Settle for a stable guy that is minimally attractive to them for a LTR Continue casually playing the field with unstable attractive guys It's the basis of AF/BB, dual mating strategy, and the reason r/survivinginfidelity…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:36 AM
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Stop objectifying men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:32 PM
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I know I shouldn't base my views on anecdotal evidence from Reddit, but I see a lot of guys around this site saying they have their own place, decent job, stay in shape, etc. and are still struggling to find a suitable partner. I also see a lot of threads about guys straight up opting out of dating, and I can't imagine every dude commenting in those threads is below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:34 PM
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A man's ability to provide matters only in the context of long-term relationships. For anything casual, the more attractive guy is going to get way more play than the unattractive financially stable dude. Physical appearance is the PRIMARY determining factor in regards to raw sexual attraction for both genders. And just as an aside: for the 5 foot rich guy, he's going to be relegated to the following-- betabuxxing, dead bedroom, or a looks-matched partner. No woman is going to be in a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:01 AM
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Shit's fucked. Hope your friend remains strong and doesn't let that situation change his good-heartendess 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:02 AM
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I audibly groaned at this comment. Major eye roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:28 AM
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Not all autistic people have an inability to maintain friendships, are unemployed, have outbursts, or cant take care of themselves. If that were the case, you'd be considered very "low functioning" anyways. In any case, the anti-normative tendencies of a mildly autistic chad are going to be ignored, just like women ignore the plethora of red flags other men have so long as he's very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:15 AM
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And I see on the news almost daily about men being killed by other men at a rate 100x more than men killing their SO. But I understand that the likelihood of me being randomly murdered by another man is small enough to not have to necessitate any change in my life. Mothers kill their children, children kill their parents, friends kill their friends, etc, etc. Why aren't you hyper-focused on these things as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:29 PM
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The same way people see car accidents on the news almost daily, but don't have an issue with driving to work 5 days a week...because it's statistically not worth worrying about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:17 PM
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How are most men expected to be in relationships when it's predicted that 45% of women ages 25 - 44 will be single and childless by 2030? Are you suggesting that most men are just going to wait until they're into their 50s before being settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:20 PM
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No, you don't. If you did, your gender wouldn't routinely enter into relationships with abusive men, get manipulated by men who use you for sex, and get your hearts broken by men who treat women like they're objects. You aren't as discerning as you think you are. No one is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:11 PM
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As someone who is still a virgin, I've decided to stop trying to understand. It's all so contradictory and confusing. I'm better off opting out than trying to wrap my head around this puzzle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:09 PM
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No it doesn't. Women don't "sense misogyny." That's the biggest pile of garbage I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:50 PM
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I love how women act like sex requires a PHD in female anatomy to be good at it. "I don't want to walk them through every step." It's not like sex is a difficult thing to do with proper communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:31 PM
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ALL PENISES ARE BEAUTIFUL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:16 PM
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How many times do women flat-out reject men's advances every day? Tens of thousands of times? Your potential of being hurt due to rejecting someone is virtually non-existent. Just like the potential of your parter killing your kids. It just doesn't happen often at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:53 PM
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You should do a google search on the number of women killing their own children. It far outweighs the amount of girls being killed for romantically rejecting someone. However, "until the risk of women killing their children goes away, men should stop having kids with them." ^ see how dumb that sounds, even though the risk is greater?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:40 PM
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You're a rare breed. Very based though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:15 AM
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To each their own, I guess. I'd rather have the whole truth than pull the wool over my own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:08 AM
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"Don't ask don't tell" is just living in ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:04 AM
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100% am not interested in anyone with a past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:56 AM
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Gets lonely after 40. All your friends are going to be married at some point, probably. I don't plan on getting married either, but as I'm approaching my 30s, I am starting to realize just how lonely it's going to be. My parents won't be around forever, either. If I don't have a social outlet or anything that I'm seriously devoted to tethering me to this earth, I'll probably be checking out at age 55 - 60 if I don't have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:05 AM
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Some people seriously believe a mildly autistic hot guy would perform better than an ugly neurotypical dude which is just absolutely shockingly factually incorrect No it isn't. The standard rules don't apply to chad. Exceptions will always be made for physically attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:25 AM
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Government doesn't give a fuck about you my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:17 AM
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Probably not. Im not into taking substances in general
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:19 PM
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Mods can't even define "incel content" so i dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:36 AM
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Right, so all those men with abhorrent match rates are just a figment of my imagination. 99.2% aren't ugly Delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:35 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/16nngtv/weekly_profile_review_thread/ Most of these guys aren't going to have luck on tinder no matter how great their profiles are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:12 AM
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I feel it would be beneficial to a lot of the men posting there for someone to give them a reality check and tell them to quit dating apps. 99% of them are going to have better luck looking for something face-to-face. What's happening is the equivalent of a C- student applying for Harvard, and their peers telling them, "you just gotta put your best foot forward and write a killer admission essay." Rather than, "dude, you're not Harvard material, stop wasting your time, you're not getting in."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:10 AM
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Do you think 7/10 guys are the demographic I'm referring to in this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:42 AM
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You can avoid offending people by not saying anything at all. My problem is that people make these guys actively feed into a false hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:41 AM
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Nah. Modern dating is just a lot of hooking up, experimenting, and having fun. I think the number of people who date casually for their own enjoyment outweighs the number of people actually looking to settle down and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:07 AM
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I there are far more men out there that prefer relationships over hooking up than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:17 AM
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Yes. I have chosen to opt out. What I am looking for in a parter is both rare and contradictory, as I want a very traditional woman personality-wise, but I also do not want children. Most traditional-minded women want children. I will also admit I am not attractive enough to "lock down" such woman if I found her anyways, and even if I was, there are still a lot a mental hangups I have with the potential of my partner cheating/divorcing me/wasting decades on a relationship that ultimately meant n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:52 AM
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I think there is a distinction that needs to be made between sexual attraction and general social attraction. If you are highly physically attractive, you are going to get raw sexual attention from women regardless of your status. If you are average, but have high status/explicit wealth, you are going to get more social attention from women. If women sleep with you in this context, it's not because they find you more sexually attractive because of your status, but rather to gain access to what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:33 AM
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Status doesn't matter for raw sexual attraction. Women seek out high-status men for very non-sexual reasons. The married guy with the 8 bedroom mansion and lambo in his driveway is still being cheated on with the young, fit pool boy. And how many women marry high-status men who they aren't actually sexually attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:22 AM
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SMV = sexual market value CMV = change my view Do you even terminally online bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:58 AM
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The only thing you're unlocking with category 2 is gold-diggers and clout chasers. I think that's a huge point that people miss. And with status, you're not raising your SMV, you're raising your "I can provide a comfortable lifestyle" flag that has very little to do with sexual attraction, in my opinion. Modelesque unemployed beach-bum surfer bro is getting more play than the nerdy, scrawny startup CEO millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:57 AM
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"I would prefer that you don't wear something tight and revealing in public because I know it's going to attract the wrong kind of attention from men." "I would prefer that you don't travel with your single friends in a foreign country because it's not very safe and you're potentially putting yourself in a situation that could affect our relationship." "I would prefer that you do not talk to your exes even if you are good friends with them." "I would prefer that you do not show your ass on Insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:47 AM
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You certainly don't. Doesn't mean those labels are not still applied as a shaming tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:56 PM
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Just turned 29. People generally think I'm 19 - 22. It's actually really messed with me psychologically, but yes, there are plenty of people out there that absolutely do not look their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:58 PM
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Women who were attractive when they were young can no longer attract the men they want. They can still attract men, but it's men they don't really want. Men who previously couldn't attract women are now "attracting" women who want to settle (ie. The women as described above). Both parties lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:12 AM
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I'd have gay sex with trump for 250k.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:27 PM
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If body count didn't matter, it shouldn't be weird to ask the question. Am i right? "The past doesn't matter, but also I don't want you inquiring about my past." Nah. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:22 PM
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"Male fragility" and "insecurity" is just shaming language used when men express that they have standards for what they want (or don't want) in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:11 PM
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It would probably be best if people like yourself avoided men, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:05 PM
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Well that's just a poor financial decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:03 PM
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Or an employer who wants references and a detailed job history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:03 PM
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If someone offered you 100 mil for 2 minutes of starfish sex, you'd be foolish not to take it. Anyone would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:58 PM
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Why are women generally unwilling to disclose their past, or lie about their n-count? Because the past matters. And everyone knows it matters based on how they tap-dance around this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:55 PM
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Everyone has a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:49 PM
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Would you have pursued a relationship with your current partner if they didn't have a nose? If not, you are so shallow that a few inches of missing cartilage is more important to you than who your partner is as a person 😃 Have a great day!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:55 AM
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Can you articulate why you believe "structural imbalances" in relationships are a bad thing to begin with? Especially considering that power imbalances occur naturally based on female sexual selection (ie. they generally want a partner who is older, more competent, earns more, is physically stronger, more experienced, etc). Most women seek out these qualities, yet most women do not feel this imbalance is exploitive within their relationships (and it generally isn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:56 AM
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Intellect never mattered for sexual attraction and reproduction. More dumb people reproduce and have sex than smart people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:25 PM
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I imagine boredom and complacency is a huge factor
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:11 PM
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I'm celibate anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:30 PM
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2/10 is being unrealistically generous. I'd wager it's more like 7 or 8 out of 10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:27 PM
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"My man is my man, is your man Heard it's her man too My man is my man, is your man Heard that's her man Tuesday and Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I just keep him satisfied through the weekend You like 9 to 5, I'm the weekend Make him lose his mind every weekend You take Wednesday, Thursday (don't worry 'bout none) Then just send him my way (don't worry 'bout none) Think I got it covered for the weekend" Sza -- The weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:54 AM
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Master the nut before it masters you 🫵🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:33 AM
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I don't believe it will give me magical powers; it's just a lengthy self-control exercise. Longest I've gone is about 2 months, but I never took it very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:13 AM
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Weight is a perfectly valid reason to not be attracted to someone. It's an immediate indicator of an unhealthy lifestyle. Height is not a fair comparison because height cannot be changed. Being overweight, however, can be. That said, there is a huge subset of men who find overweight women attractive and would gladly date them, just as there are women who will gladly date short men. Im sure there's loads of dudes in that girls comments posting about how beautiful she is and how great her curves a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:49 AM
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What an awesome friend 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:36 AM
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Turning 29 in 4 days. Going to attempt r/semenretention for one year & focus all of my energy on work and saving money so I have a good foundation to start at when I hit 30. I have a 10 year plan, and hope to be semi-retired by 40. Spent all my 20's aimless and suicidal, and for the first time in my life I can see the light. Super excited for my 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:27 AM
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So you were basically an orbiter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:09 AM
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Very difficult to be friends with women unless you just straight up don't find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:47 PM
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So what do you treat a woman as if not as a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:51 AM
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Nah, I'm pretty sure you don't get it. Friends are open about their emotions all the time. You say the problem is you see them as "brothers," but siblings can be close and emotionally open with each-other as well. The problem is the men you see as "just friends," are not sexual enough. They've become asexual beings to you, and of course you're not going to pursue something romantically with an asexual man. You even say that almost verbatim in your first paragraph. You're putting the cart before …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:15 AM
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That's entirely antithetical to what you are saying in your post. How can you possibly experience someone else's emotions without being friends with them first?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:04 AM
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The only difference between friendship and prospective partnership (short term or long term) is the introduction of sexuality. That's the only way it can be "more than" friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:00 AM
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This post is golden because it's perfectly explaining why women are sexually open to men who treat them poorly. plus show emotions, show vulnerability Major eye roll 🙄 I audibly groaned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:52 AM
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You do realize the TLDR version of your post is "don't be friendly to women"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:28 AM
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A scary thought
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:31 AM
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Fair points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:28 AM
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I'm sure there will be many more passing transmen in the next decade or so as it's becoming more and more common and socially accepted to transition in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:25 AM
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The term has become completely meaningless and i hope it stops being used altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:58 AM
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Looks like all the pictures were removed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:51 AM
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PPD would be much more entertaining if we could see what everyone looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:19 AM
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It's only natural to care, but you shouldn't. Accept your lot in life and move on. Disregard the labels society foists upon you; society doesn't care about you anyways. Men who care so much about not attaining sex (to the point where it causes them more harm than good) would be better off shattering their ego and removing the desire altogether. Take the Buddha pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:46 AM
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Yes, there is an ocean of difference. That doesn't mean people do not routinely conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:40 AM
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why do men base their sense of self worth on having access to sex? Because if you can't get sex, you're grouped in with the incels, which by default labels you as a creepy misogynist loser by society. In my opinion, you shouldnt care either way, but for a lot of men it's difficult not to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:08 AM
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That's fair. Sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:00 PM
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Yeah, I'm perfectly aware of this now. When I thought that good people were attracted to other good people, it didn't make any sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:59 PM
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be there for your fam Wish i saw this more on here. If dudes spent half the time building their relationships with their family compared to how much time they spent worrying about women, they would be much happier and more mentally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:56 PM
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They were all very conventionally attractive of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:48 PM
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Ah yes, I have acquired many women with my professional basket weaving skills and top-percentile knowledge of mayan civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:35 PM
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This is the worst advice I've ever seen here and thats saying something. I hope you're joking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:28 PM
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He uses tactical personality 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:23 PM
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Aesthetic surgery and gym. https://images.app.goo.gl/jzPTdfXxvuaQEms16 Do you think the guy on the left or the right will have an easier time finding women that are interested him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:16 PM
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As someone who wasn't socialized well as a child, please do socialize your kid. I'm probably a decade behind socially because I was placed in small private schools and lived in the middle of nowhere. It'll probably take me another decade before i'm reasonably "caught up" with others my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:57 PM
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No one is above caring about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:49 PM
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psychological problems They're neck deep in loneliness, it's not like they have schizophrenia lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:42 AM
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Half those dudes would up and leave their hometowns for the promise of a relationship with a moderately attractive woman. You realize those guys are teetering on the edge of suicide, right? They have nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:37 AM
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You're saying out of all 170,000 people there you wouldn't be able to find one you would be compatible with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:29 AM
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If I was a dude desperate for a relationship and there was a sub of 170,000 lonely girls pleading for relationships, it would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:19 AM
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One of the first experiences I had with "irrational attraction" as a naive lad was when I found out this God-fearing Christian cutie I knew had a crush on a bully that I went to high school with. The same guy that body-shamed the fat girls and had a GPA of 1.5. "How could such a good girl like such an awful guy?" Didn't make sense to me. Living in a very conservative area, I noticed this happening pretty often when I just kept my eyes open. So many "pure hearted Christ-followers" going after the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:17 AM
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You got an olympic size pool of options over at r/foreveralone. Go pick one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:03 AM
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If you have friends, technically you have relationship experience 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:50 AM
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you can do whatever the fuck you want Sure, but you're still going to suffer the consequences of your actions no matter what you do. Go ahead and quit your job to roadtrip to vegas and gamble away your 401k because it's all meaningless. It'll be exciting for about a week, then you reap the rewards of being a broke, unemployed dumbass. Even though there is no objective purpose, you still have to follow the typical life-script to some extent to prevent your life from descending into hell on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:45 AM
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But...but...personality 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:27 AM
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Ok, so as per my theoretical: do you think your relationship would last if you knew all the details?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:40 AM
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Let's not forget there are plenty of abusive women that men put up with because they are spineless or because the sex is good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:07 PM
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Hoe: generally meant as "someone who is promiscuous and not interested in settling down with a partner." Phase: a distinct stage in a period of time (ie. someone's life.) Hoe phase is a perfectly acceptable & accurate use of words. Plenty of single and free men and women don't have hookups, so no, it's not just being "single and free."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:47 PM
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It was good enough for 12 years though. What exactly was missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:19 PM
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Parts of TRP are correct, just as parts of blue pill thinking are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:12 PM
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Instant gratification vs. delayed gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:09 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:25 PM
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Plenty of people willingly consent to sex and then feel bad about it afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:58 PM
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Casual homophobia is generally not appreciated. I certainly don't appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:52 PM
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As per my post, not caring about n-count requires a degree of ignorance on behalf of your partner's actions. The fact of the matter is most people do care, because if faced with the ugly details, it would matter to them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:46 PM
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I don't think it's normal for men to sleep around. I don't think hookups are beneficial for anyone. Although, considering the number of women who want "experienced men," I can also understand why this concept may be viewed differently by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:44 PM
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Self respect absolutely pertains to how you interact and associate with others. Women who don't respect themselves end up in abusive relationships. Teens with no self-respect are more prone to join gangs and hang out in bad crowds. As per yourself: since you have no issue or limit to your partner's sexual past, you'd be fine dating a porn star. Do you think your friends, family, and peers would respect you for making that decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:15 PM
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I'm not redpilled, nor am I an incel. Volcel, maybe. I would never have sex outside of a committed relationship. This question was posed moreso to see how women think in terms of what men should do to get sex. Most answers are clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:12 PM
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I mean, that's exactly what i'm saying in my post lol. So thanks for agreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:05 PM
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No one should be a dick or have rage about this concept. Nobody want to see...and that doesn't have anything to do with jealousy. Then what does it have to do with? There's a reason behind it. It's not a matter of "just because."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:41 PM
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What does my comment have to do with preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:38 PM
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All you would have to do is explain your own interpretation of "the spark" based on your experience. This would be a good starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:37 PM
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I dont think details of his poops would breed resentment or jealousy. do you think we want to know too? Probably not, because the ignorance of those events is bliss, as I stated in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:34 PM
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If you can't even come up with a single sentence regarding "how things actually are" as an argument against OP, then you're just lazy. If everything he's saying is bullshit, you should be able to explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:25 PM
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I'm good without that Because otherwise you would perhaps be jealous or resentful?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:23 PM
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*the OP of the parent comment we are discussing this under.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:14 PM
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Ok, then describe why OP is wrong. If he's so out of touch, you should have plenty to say about it. Telling him to leave the basement isn't going to change his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:10 PM
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OP provided four paragraphs of information to work with. If you're certain he's wrong, and you understand how "real life" works, then you shouldnt have an issue formulating a well composed argument against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:04 PM
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I think sex is something to be celebrated within a committed relationship. Sex can also be bad and degrading, which is why a lot of people regret ONS and feel "used" afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:01 PM
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If you're ok kissing the same mouth that rimmed multiple sweaty buttholes in the past, that's fine. That's why I said "most men" in my post, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:56 PM
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All i see in your comment is a personal attack rather than a counter-argument. This is a debate sub. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:44 PM
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Not wanting a woman who has exchanged bodily fluids with several men is a deeply rooted disgust response that I and many other men have. Like honestly, do you genuinely have no limit regarding your partner's sexual past? If you don't, then you have no dignity or respect for yourself. I will never understand your mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:40 AM
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"If you don't like ran-through women you're insecure." This is like one of the main redditisms i'll never not shake my head at.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:57 AM
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I guess I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance of knowing your partner has done x, y, and z, but not caring only because you don't know the details. Like, even if you don't have the knowledge, it's not like it didn't happen. It's like the equivalent of knowing your partner has a felony, but being "ok" with it just because you don't have the details. If everything is perfect in the relationship, then technically that felony is meaningless, but if it was revealed that he sold heroin on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:54 AM
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So you agree with the premise of my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:30 AM
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r/escapingprisonplanet welcomes you with open arms
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:05 AM
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Plenty of liberals are evil too. Let's come back to reality my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:02 AM
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Theoretically if you stumbled upon a video of his or read about a past experience he's written in a journal, would you be indifferent, or would it make you feel some degree of jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:57 AM
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Resentment, disgust, jealousy...i think these are all normal human reactions to hearing about your partner's escapades in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:43 AM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:30 AM
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You're cuck-adjacent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:14 AM
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Examples provided in second paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:57 AM
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I mean, i don't know. Would you feel resentful towards him if you knew all the details? If you think you would, then that would fall under the "ignorance is bliss" category.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:53 AM
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You sound upset
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:49 AM
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And why do you think that they don't want to hear the details?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:12 AM
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Why limit the details? Because ignorance of the matter is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:09 AM
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Yes, if they are into cuckholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:08 AM
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This is absolutely true, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:07 AM
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Out of all those things you've listed, sexual past would make far more of an impact on one's relationship. If you're in a relationship, chances are you already have a general idea of your partner's judgements, insecurities, and worst moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:07 AM
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Further, it is rare to see an attractive man on the street or on a dating app. Correct. Attractive men are rare. Which makes them desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:20 AM
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"How average males can make them themselves desirable to women" is an ocean of difference from "How average males can make themselves desirable to at least one woman." My comments on this thread are related to the specific wording of OP's title.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:16 AM
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Pure delusion. Regardless, men who have partners does not mean they are "desirable to women" as your post says.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:07 AM
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Getting a girlfriend =/= being desirable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:33 AM
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Looks dictate initial value and worthiness. If you are unable to surpass a woman's threshold of what she considers attractive, it doesn't matter how personally great of a person you are, or if you do shadow work on the weekends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:31 AM
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Or you can lose weight and get aesthetic surgeries without doing any of the aforementioned things you've stated. Your list is about personal improvement, not how to be desirable. The two are not the same. Plenty of alcoholic, drug abusing, personality-less men are desirable to women, and the common denominator is that they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:12 AM
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In my opinion, this is a product of the "women are wonderful" effect. Of course, if the overarching view of women is that they are pure, empathetic, nurturing, angelic beings, then of course they are seeking out decent & respectful men. And if you aren't able to get women, then obviously you aren't a good, moral man. Of course, in reality women are not perfect beings, and plenty of decent men are invisible because of their average traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:46 PM
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As i said before your other post was removed: prepare for the cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:21 PM
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Even if you did, they would resent you for not finding them sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:58 PM
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"Watch what they do, don't just believe what they say." This goes for all people, not just women. If you want to know about someone's true nature, weather it be sexuality or otherwise, you pay attention to their actions. Words are generally meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:14 PM
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I've met Translation: I've spent my time on online forums where these types tend to accumulate. You just said you avoid men, so how could you possibly be meeting these people in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:52 PM
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This is the equivalent of me spending my time on FDS, and attributing those posts to all women. You're pulling a cringe MGTOW move by saying you're "avoiding all men."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:39 PM
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This is what happens when you spend too much time online
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:33 PM
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Every study I'm reading is estimating 25 - 40% of women have had a ONS. When reading about casual sex--not necessarily ONS--the number is higher. Also: https://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner "When it comes to real life, most of today's young adults report some casual sexual experience. The most recent data suggest that between 60 percent and 80 percent of North American college students have had some sort of hook-up experience. This is consistent with the view of emerging adulthood (typic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:49 PM
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Everyone dies alone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:02 PM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:26 PM
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Where would you go to meet people who might be interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:28 AM
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How would you change your circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:18 AM
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Working out in order to build a reasonable amount of muscle generally takes at least 1-2 years. Do you think you would be successful during that waiting period? just talk to girls Do you mean cold-approaching, or talking to women in certain contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:10 AM
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Might make the answers even more interesting. We will wait and see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:05 AM
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That's my point. There was a previous thread about Leo earlier this week, and a comment mentioned that "we have no idea what's actually going on with his relationships" and fabricated this whole conspiracy about what could "really be happening." Everyone involved knows whats happening. Models get clout for dating Leo. Leo gets to have a casual relationship with beautiful women. It's an exchange that both parties are consenting to, and the women know exactly what they are signing up for. They are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:55 AM
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Whenever this topic comes up, the deflection is that bad men are these master manipulators that don't show their "true colors" until they are deep into the relationship. Not saying this doesn't ever happen, but most assholes are very easy to pick out of a crowd. The next deflection is that bad men, even if they are obviously horrible, bully and manipulate women with low self-esteem into liking them and having sex with them. Im sure this happens too, but I'd argue it is rare. What is generally ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:43 AM
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Poor people have more kids than rich people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:05 AM
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Sex means different things depending on the context. More news at 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:50 AM
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The meth head trailer-park chad with 5 kids from 3 different women is more valuable than Nikola Tesla and Isaac Newton if we're basing value on biology. This is exactly the reason you don't base one's value on biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:46 AM
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There is an ocean of difference between having sex with an escort and having sex with someone who genuinely finds you attractive. Most men I see complaining are complaining about the latter, or the inability to find a relationship in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:37 AM
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How does a lack of sexual experience make you gross? I'm trying to determine why OP used that word specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:19 AM
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Your worth isnt dictated by whether or not you've stuck your dick in a vagina. Don't let degenerates tell you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:58 AM
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OP is a woman, which makes this post doubly odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:53 AM
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Based on what metrics? Telling men to sacrifice their dignity and sleep with prostitutes is abhorrent, and it's weird that you're so personally offended by virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:37 AM
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Escorts are gross. ONS are meaningless. Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:28 AM
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And what percentage of men do these movements consist of? 1% of men worldwide, if that? The average guy has never even heard of the term "manosphere." And no, plenty of women are utilizing their own agency when they are sleeping with asshole men. They aren't children incapable of making their own decisions. In plenty of instances these women are equally as toxic; birds of a feather... I think you need to talk to more women. The average woman is not going to agree with anything you are saying. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:19 PM
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Most men treat women perfectly fine. Saying all men are assholes is the incel equivalent of saying all women are whores. You're quite literally acting like an incel, and I don't even like the use of that term. Women don't like assholes. Some do, and some don't. The most abhorrent, disrespectful men I've known in my life had no problem getting women; the common denominator is that they were physically attractive. All men become assholes in relationships This is just patently untrue, and no one ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:02 PM
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But women still want partners. Most women, anyways. If you think all 45% of women 25-44 are happy being single, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:38 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:31 PM
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Some do, some dont. Just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:00 PM
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It's estimated that 45% of women ages 25–44 will be single by 2030. Not sure why you are saying only men need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:28 PM
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Prostitution was never about sexual liberation. Selling your body is easy money for a lot of women, and very few would actually do it if there was no money involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:25 PM
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I'm giving you perfectly valid reasons as to why men struggle with dating, and your response is "well, some men with these problems do fine, so they aren't really problems." By your own logic, having poor social skills and acting like a child aren't problems either, because plenty of socially awkward guys are successful, as are many man-children. This is what I hate about arguing about gender dynamics. If a person is blatantly wrong, they are completely unwilling to concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:27 PM
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• Lack of availability of compatible partners due to location • Overly high standards, or routinely selecting women they don't actually have a chance with • Mental health issues (which is a huge category) • Neurodivergency • Being physically undesirable • Being awful at sex • Not having enough time, or having too many responsibilities that it is an impediment to their relationships (ie. working 60-70 hours/week) • Past unresolved trauma that affects self-esteem or causes a phobia of commitment •…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:53 PM
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When I say mentally children, I mean these guys over-simplify things to the point that it baffles me that they're adults. Proceeds to over-simplify men's dating problems into two categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:28 PM
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Older women are the ones that whine about older men pursuing younger women. If they truly didn't care, they wouldn't throw a fit and label older men as manipulative pedophiles for seeking women in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:26 PM
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Your point isn't wrong, but it's generally the case that untraditional women want traditional men, not the other way around. If you're a woman who parties in her 20s and has a high n-count, you can't expect a traditional man to settle for your untraditional behavior, even if you do change later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:53 AM
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Men who want respectable relationships and happy marriages shouldn't be taking advice from those people either. If you're the type of guy who wants to smash prostitutes in your 40s, by all means, go ask that guy for advice. In regards to OPs post, if you're a woman who wants a respectable relationship, you ask advice from other women who are in happy, respectable relationships--not perpetually single female dating coaches, or your 50 year old cousin who's had 20 different boyfriends that never l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:01 PM
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That's great buddy. Most people who are dating eventually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:48 PM
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The topic is specifically about dating advice. Why do people generally date? To find a suitable partner for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:45 PM
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I hate the red pill, correct
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:17 PM
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How are people so awful at reading comprehension? No man cares if you go seek advice from your level-headed grandma who is still happily married to your grandpa and doesn't abhor men for existing. Men care if you seek advice from your divorced cat-lady aunt who chain smokes and calls men problematic. Nowhere in my comment do I say "all old women are bitter and jaded." My comment is meant to mean, "don't seek advice from older women who are also bitter and jaded." Same applies to old men. Do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:37 PM
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There are plenty of happily married older couples, and older women that are a joy to be around. I've to see a man claim that "every" older woman is bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:24 PM
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Are you a bitter and jaded woman? No? Then my comment is not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:08 PM
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That's great. My comment is obviously not referring to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:03 PM
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That's not what I'm saying. There are old women who are bitter and jaded. There are also old women who are perfectly normal and reasonable. Be selective from who you take advice from. Are you going to take dating advice from an out of touch, thrice-divorced woman who loathes the presence of men, or are you going to take advice from the successful, happily married for 30+ years woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:02 PM
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I dont know you. Why do you think my comment is referring to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:56 PM
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Pretty sure men just don't want their partners gleaning advice from old, bitter, jaded women. As im sure you wouldn't want your partner counseling with old, bitter, jaded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:35 PM
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If you indiscriminately ask for advice, you're going to get bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:29 PM
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I'm assuming OP is referring to 50+ year old women, but i could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:22 PM
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As a man, I would never ask an old boomer-aged guy for dating advice, no matter what his experience is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:12 PM
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"Just bring your printed resume to the manager, shake his hand, and ask for a job." 👴🏼👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:10 PM
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The dude with the 12 room mansion and 3 mclarens in his garage is still being cheated on with the pool boy. Money is irrelevant if it's attracting the wrong kind of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:15 AM
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No. Culturally enforced as in motivating young men and women as a culture to pursue monogamous relationships rather than casual flings for the sake of pleasure. Nothing to do with laws, government, or systematically assigned waifus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:33 AM
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Or instead of doing these absurd and unrealistic things, you can marry a man you have thoroughly vetted and know will stick by you so you can raise a proper family. You know, instead of getting knocked up by your "situationship" who is just in it for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:41 PM
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There are currently 18 types of birth control available. There is also the option of remaining completely celibate. If you get pregnant in this day-and-age, you're either incompetent, or you wanted it to happen. The solution to the deadbeat dad is actually stigmatizing hookups/ONS, culturally enforcing monogamy, and celebrating sex within marriage. I agree also with stigmatizing men who don't use BC. Strong family units are the key to eliminating fatherless homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:16 PM
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men have unrealistic sexual standards for women • Don't smell • Don't be fat • Have a pulse That's basically the sexual standard for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:10 PM
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Agreed. And although it can be considered a defeatist mindset, I think a lot of men would benefit by disengaging from the pursuit of women altogether. I've read about, listened to, and commiserated with so many men whose primary source of suffering is their inability to attract women, and at some point you have to ask--why allow yourself to suffer so much? Just take the path of least resistance and rid yourself of the desire so you stop killing yourself over it. You can still improve, but do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:24 PM
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Agreed. And although it can be considered a defeatist mindset, I think a lot of men would benefit by disengaging from the pursuit of women altogether. I've read about, listened to, and commiserated with so many men whose primary source of suffering is their inability to attract women, and at some point you have to ask--why allow yourself to suffer so much? Just take the path of least resistance and rid yourself of the desire so you stop killing yourself over it. You can still improve, but do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:23 PM
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I'm referring to genuinely decent, upright people. By injecting the topic of people who claim to be "nice guys" but aren't, you're creating an entirely different argument. Genuinely decent people can be alone. They can also be poor, down on their luck, abused, etc. There are also genuinely miserable, toxic people who can be surrounded by others. They can also be rich, lucky, and held in high regard. I agree that you are more likely to be an option for friendship if you aren't miserable, but that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:09 PM
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Of course there are introverts who have friends. There are also miserable people who have friends. And there are also decent people with no friends. I'm just tired of the just world fallacy argument that all you have to do is be a "decent person" in order to have flourishing relationships with others, and if you don't, that means you're "obviously a miserable person."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:40 PM
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Please refer to my other comment on this thread. I should have substituted "men" with "people." Women generally do not have a difficult time making friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:13 PM
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You're a woman, of course you've never struggled with making friends. I should have specified that many perfectly decent men are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:01 PM
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males REEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:41 PM
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Plenty of perfectly decent people are alone. You also have to be interesting, socially competent, and extroverted in order for people to just "want" to be your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:25 AM
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