CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used to

CradleCity · 2023-09-28T22:38:53+00:00

There are men who have made peace or are becoming content with the fact that they're not gonna get a relationship (much less sex). You can't always get what you want and all that.

There are men who try their hardest to improve themselves, but that doesn't mean anything's gonna happen (and, besides, improving is for oneself, not to get relationships, women see through that).

There are men who will commit suicide as society becomes more and more atomized. How can men even get relationships in the first place, if there's no community standing strong or stable?

And, finally, there are men whose life circumstances prevent them from feeling worthy of a relationship, ranging from illness - mental, physical, or both - to taking care of their family elderly to chronic unemployment.

The "there's someone for everyone" fairytale is just that, a fairytale. It's as "valuable" as the tale of a prince charming swooping in, that is told to little girls.

Jazzlike_Pin5103 · 2023-09-28T22:23:30+00:00

if you’re a virgin not by choice throughout your 20s and finally lose your virginity at 30 it won’t make up for the psychological damage due to lack of intimacy in your youth anyway

Doesthisevenmatter7 · 2023-09-28T23:29:13+00:00

I can’t imagine being a virgin your entire 20’s and possibly coming out a normal person in your 30’s.

DerayRevan · 2023-09-28T22:25:25+00:00

That's great but it's not only the young demographic who have experienced a lack of sexual/romantic interaction

In fact there was a thread not long ago asking if anyone has found any success in dating and it was just filled with a bunch of guys past age 30 giving their stories of how unsuccessful they still are

So am not saying you can't have any optimism about your dating life but many guys are living a hard reality of not just being sexless but never experiencing the basic romantic stuff like having a girlfriend

It's one thing being 18 and thinking your never gonna get laid, well duh your only 18 bro you can still go wild in your 20s but it's another being 38 and still missing out on dating because you weren't that young anymore

Yuruyakatou · 2023-09-29T00:17:59+00:00

Nah that's just a giant fucking cope. There are lots of men who are in their 30s and 40s who are even further away from being in a relationship than they were at 18. The whole 'it gets easier as you get older' is a total lie. The easiest time to get into a relationship is your high school and university days. If you don't manage it during those years your chances afterwards plummet because you will always be playing catch up due to experience deficits.

the_fozzy_one · 2023-09-28T23:30:54+00:00

Yes, they will eventually become a Beta Bob (provided they can provide beta bux).

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-09-29T00:06:42+00:00

Theoretically almost all men can get sex and relationships at any age. There is probably some granny that is willing to fuck an unattractive socially awkward 20 year old virgin.

The problem isn't getting someone, the problem is getting someone you're satisfied with. All the good ones are snatched early, after a certain age it's slim pickings, that's just the reality of the situation. I assume a lot of guys see putting in effort and hard work as pointless when what is awaiting for them at the end of the tunnel is not their 1st choice, or even 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th choice, but actually their 10th choice.

Ultimately, sex and relationships is a young man's game. It's like a mclaren 720s. If you're young, you want to show it off and flex. You can also enjoy it to its full potential when you're young. But when you're 70, with deteriorated eyesight, lower back and knee pain, garbage reflexes and hand eye coordination, it's kind of useless. Even worse if you're in the hospital with stage 3 cancer and someone gifts it to you, you probably won't be like "oh thanks man, nice gift", you're more likely to be "noone cares about that piece of junk, I'm barely surviving over here, buddy".

Socrates famously said: "No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable."

I think this is a better analogy. I mean a 60 year old man can start working out and improve his body, but starting at 60, you'll never be even remotely close to what you could have been.

l00ks-p1lled · 2023-09-28T22:29:40+00:00

It's probably true, but don't expect to suddenly meet lots of women that are genuinely attracted to you when you reach the 30 yo treshold, you'll most likely find women that will settle for you without being sexually attracted.

Also, good luck not developing mental issues in your 20s if you lack girls' attention.

macone235 · 2023-09-28T23:38:32+00:00

Men getting into a relationship does not disprove hypergamy. It is simply a way for blue pills to say, "see, I was right. You just have to be yourself"! Except, TRP doesn't disagree with the notion that most men will find at least 1 relationship in their lifetime. That is scientifically proven. They disagree with the notion that this is an indicator that men are successful with women.

Men will still have to marry down, they will still fail to make their partner happy, there will most likely be cheating on one-side of the relationship, and the relationship will most likely end.

That is not something for most men to look forward to, which is why the amount of men who choose to be single is rising even in older age brackets. Hypergamy just isn't a good deal for most men.

gntlbastard · 2023-09-29T00:08:41+00:00

I would encourage men to improve themselves but not for the purpose of getting pussy. Improve yourself for you, your mental outlook, your self confidence.

Fit_Kiwi9703 · 2023-09-28T22:26:06+00:00

I like your optimism. As a woman in my late 30s, I saw every single one of my male friends get married in the past couple of years. We were all nerds/doomers in our 20s, got stable jobs in our early 30s, and found somebody around 35.

I'm still in awe by how many weddings we've had recently. To be honest, I never thought we'd get here (sheds tear of joy).

BeautifulThoughtes · 2023-09-28T22:20:05+00:00

How are most men expected to be in relationships when it's predicted that 45% of women ages 25 - 44 will be single and childless by 2030?

Are you suggesting that most men are just going to wait until they're into their 50s before being settled for?

Ambitious-Camel6356 · 2023-09-29T02:30:23+00:00

The late bloomers I know tend to be very misogynistic possibly because of the rejection they faced in their youth.

OutOfOranges · 2023-09-28T23:16:27+00:00

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eeekkkgg · 2023-09-28T23:43:40+00:00

I mean, yeah, statically true, however there some who will never get it, or at least not unless they pay for it. And as others have pointed out, you'll never really make up for the lost time and opportunities.

Sufficient-Ice-5400 · 2023-09-29T00:02:04+00:00

I'm really not convinced that it is sex that young men are lacking. I might have a high libido but I can handle that myself. I've been searching for emotional intimacy and stability the entire time. All I've had is a string of flaky partners who never seemed very invested in a relationship, certainly not for very long.

Oddly enough, it's only women who are unavailable who want to text everyday and talk about deep topics and stay in touch for years.

Anyway, after a decade of that you get used to the idea that what you want is not on the market, certainly not in a package deal. And for that reason... I'm out.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2023-09-29T02:05:42+00:00

It doesn't matter, no one wants to be settled for - they want to be attractive, not get lucky once.

I bet most incels aren't virgins, just sexually unsuccessful men

Ayaka_Simp_ · 2023-09-28T23:42:47+00:00

Attractive men have plenty of sex and average men, too, in their teens and 20s. If you're a late bloomer, sure. But why would these men who blossom at 30 want a woman who rode the cock carousel in her 20s?

Safinated · 2023-09-28T22:37:46+00:00

Well, that is not acceptable to many men and boys. They want it now! Give it to them!

OpticalEpilepsy · 2023-09-29T04:11:39+00:00

Not the very smart men that are very confident about how sex will never happen to them because they are below the 20th percentile in looks. They proudly boast about how they'll never get any

yamb97 · 2023-09-29T05:29:58+00:00

Most men I’ve met are partnered and will tell you “the second you stop trying it just happens.”

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13choppedup2chopped · 2023-09-29T01:53:12+00:00

You say the drives of this are societal changes. Do you see those drivers slowing down in the future? Why would they?

Stop_Maximum · 2023-09-29T08:59:06+00:00

Honestly, not everyone (men and/or women) will engage in relationships or have sex, and for some, it might happen later than usual, if at all. Unlike inevitable life events, like death, sex isn't a must-do; it can be purchased if one is willing. Relationships vary – while some may find love naturally, others may resort to paying for companionship, but the stress involved may not make it worthwhile.

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Title	CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used to
Author	danielwastaken
Upvotes	0
Comments	174
Date	September 28, 2023 10:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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