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| 1 | Are women more attracted to good looking guys?yes In fact good looking guys have little trouble getting laid because for them it's easy to meet women that find them attractive | /r/seduction | 20/03/24 08:58 PM |
| 1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.The comparison with Nazis feels far fetched Incels are only sexless men, only a few of them are degenerate, and only an even fewer of them actually hurts or kills women You think you sound reasonable when the heart of your argument is 'so if women had sex with us and like really wanted to we would feel better...' Yeah because the sex in question is supposed to be genuinely wanted by both sides. Most incels don't want to have sex with women that don't find them attractive and that's why they us… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 09:07 PM |
| 1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.I'm not OP but please continue with your assumptions | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 08:50 PM |
| -1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.you are interpreting in the distorted way you want OP wrote his message clearly | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.I'm sorry for your experience but you have to realize that you only saw a loud toxic minority only a small minority of muslims are terrorists and only a small minority of incels are degenerate misogynists. Apologies for the extreme example but do you get my point now? Also, believing in hypergamy and that Good looking men (Chads) have lots of sex is not enough to make you a misogynist. If you blame women for their choices then yeah you are, but most incels are not even blaming women, they are … | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 08:28 PM |
| -1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.we don’t get validation on our physical characteristics very often I think the only time men get this validation is when a woman views him as a sexual object I think getting this validation and having one woman appreciate him as a purely sexual being and being seen as attractive to her would help exponentially. reread the post. If anything OP wants to feel sexually objectified, which I believe is something most men want | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 08:17 PM |
| -2 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.Women are supposed to enjoy having sex with men they like lol You make it sound like all kinds of sex are transactional. Have you ever seen how women behave around their crushes? | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:54 PM |
| 0 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.it's not exactly easy to become taller and developing a good looking face | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:48 PM |
| 1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.yes there's plenty of those posts. Never heard about loud minorities?? Also, let's consider that most incels don't even partecipate in incel forums in the first place | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:46 PM |
| 0 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.the whole hypergamy thing is about blaming women and their sexual agency They talk about hypergamy as a cope, many of them don't blame women for that since they know it's a natural phenomenon And the incel solution for it, is enforced monogamy. Also, the incel meme of "sexual revolution caused inceldom" is popular and very well known. It's not, only a few incels view it as an actual solution. The meme is famous because the mainstream made it famous and because anti-incel propaganda talks about… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:37 PM |
| 1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.only a few of them spout extremely degenerate takes, most incels are simply depressed because women are not physically attracted to them As an ulterior joke to their condition, the mainstream tells them the problem is not their Looks but their Personality. As if weird and shy good looking men had trouble having sex | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:30 PM |
| -4 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.judge me if you want and judge incels too, but if you use our "image" to dismiss our claims you're narrow minded | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:24 PM |
| -6 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.Kinda, I believe that physical attraction is non negotiable and is the most important aspect in dating my 2cent thought, stop having prejudices and argue with people for what they say, not who they are | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 07:08 PM |
| -9 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.no, it's the conclusion that you want to extrapolate from the post The real message of the post is different | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:42 PM |
| -1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.why? by saying this you're gatekeeping the feelings of many sexless men | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:39 PM |
| 0 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.If a woman doesn't want to fuck them instantly and views them as purely sexual beings then is not worth it. It's a sentiment that stems from feeling excluded from casual sex and sexual desire I kinda feel similarly tbh | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:36 PM |
| -1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.I think you misinterpreted the post, he said "consensual sex" as a way to describe a scenario where both the man and the woman want to have sex with each other | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:32 PM |
| -10 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.seem to have accepted it for what it is Even if you accept it it's still a miserable existence most likely | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:30 PM |
| -1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.but they are like "goverment should give us girlfriends" only a few degenerate incels say extreme things like this, most incels don't want to force women to do anything "they should cover our plastic surgeries" This is an interesting idea. I've seen blackpillers talking about this, it should be talked about more imo | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:23 PM |
| -3 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.most incels want to be desired by women they don't want to force women to like them | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 06:12 PM |
| 1 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.I agree, sexless men want to be objectified and be lusted after however it is difficult to meet women that genuinely finds you attractive | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 05:28 PM |
| 0 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.if they had genuine sex with a women they like they would feel fulfilment | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 05:26 PM |
| -4 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.are you joking? Most incels do blame their physical features, there even exist incel forums dedicated to cosmetic surgery and Looksmaxxing the issue is that for men cosmetic surgery is extremely invasive and expensive | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 05:25 PM |
| -5 | I think the solution to TRP and inceldom is for a person to have a consensual purely sexual encounter with a woman.being married is not significant there's lots of women who marry men they are not attracted to | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 05:09 PM |
| 0 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?I agree, but if you only value mental connection without considering physical attraction you'll end up settling You need both for a healthy relationship imo | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?I would say some women like that the man is the one that is more charming, funny, or with a larger than life personality Yeah women usually prefer those kind of men, but if they're not physically attracted it's still settling | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 01:25 AM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingSo you think beautiful people all have high quality intimacy and sex in their relationships but then leave the relationships anyway? They probably get bored and they eventually seek other women, it doesn't deny the fact that intimacy was high quality for some time I've had crushes, but I think I've never been in love. And yeah I'd have enjoyed having sex with other women who were not my crushes | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 01:12 AM |
| -2 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?which reinforces the idea that if you receive lots of matches you are truly remarkable | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?I don't get if they're trolling or they really thinks that every man interested in an average girl is a toxic bastard | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 11:46 PM |
| 0 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?okay that's true, but they can ALSO find men that are actually GENUINELY attracted to them relatively easily What you don't seem to understand is that they are not very interested in being used Who would have guessed | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?so your point is that an average woman struggles to find a man that finds her attractive? do you really think that most of the men that show interest are only doing it to use her? | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 10:59 PM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingthe link you posted talks about much relationships lasts and how much people are prone to cheating, it doesn't talk about the quality of intimacy and sex inside the relationship Furthermore, I'd say that what the study actually hints is that good looking people go after their desires, unattractive people instead force themselves to stay faithful | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 10:53 PM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingI meant that if you're good looking the quality of your relationship and intimacy will probably be better, because it will be guaranteed that your gf is physically attracted to you | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustrating"conventional" attractiveness implies attractiveness outside of the convention. Meaning that not everyone agrees on what is attractive. That's why I said that beauty is mostly objective. Not anyone agrees on who is attractive but it's obvious that huge patterns do exists and only a few people are actually lucky enough to be considered attractive often And we can see that very clearly by just looking at normal, regular people and their relationships. Tbh what I see irl are women that always tal… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 10:05 PM |
| -5 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?I didn't mean that, what you wrote is true but it's only one side of the coin the other side is that an average woman can easily find men that are genuinely attracted to her. Not as easily as a beautiful woman obviously | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:58 PM |
| 0 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingIn your opinion maybe. But your opinion contradicts the opinions of many - maybe even most - women out there. How?? Not that it matters since I was talking about men but whatever And even when it doesn't, the definition of "good looking" is probably very different - or at least a lot broader - than you think it is. Nah, beauty is mostly objective. That's why people talk about "conventional attractiveness" | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:54 PM |
| 2 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingthat's why I said "partner" in the previous comment I wasn't arguing that being good looking guarantees that every single woman will be attracted to you Although I have to say that if you're good looking with a normal personality most women will be attracted to you | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:51 PM |
| 1 | How do I not grow resentful of my better looking more sexually successful friends?Good luck If you want an advice: don't force yourself, be with someone that you're fully attracted to If you don't find a man aesthetically pleasing don't go for him, choose a man that you're attracted to both mentally and physically. You'll be doing a favour to both of you | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:46 PM |
| -2 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?I don't get the point of your comment That is utter and total bullshit What are you referring to? Misogyny and hate are never attractive. I agree, I never tried to defend them in fact | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:36 PM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingDo you think this statement applies for all men? At least for 95% of men I'd say. if you don't believe me ask men if they would be fine being in a ltr with a woman that is not physically attracted to them and see how they respond These are often women who "need" to be in a relationship and for whom any relationship may be better than no relationship I agree, but most women are like this imo. If they can't find a man that they desire eventually most will decide that a relationship without real … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:30 PM |
| 0 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?You're right, I worded it badly and I edited the comment I said forgiving in the sense that men can find pretty women that have "not conventionally good looking features". A rounded face, a weak jawline, being short, being weak are all features that are usually considered nonoptimal, but they don't affect that much a woman's attractiveness Also, women are very forgiving of looks Yeah if they want to settle. If they want to be with a man they actually desire sexually then they need to consider … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:22 PM |
| -15 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?you're wrong, if a man receives lots of matches and many women show interest to him it's an indication that he's good looking, especially on dating apps It's a very small minority of single women who do this is probably wrong, about 40% of couples meet on dating apps today | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 09:11 PM |
| -14 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?true, but men's tastes are more wide overall The consequence being that for an average woman is relatively easy to find a man that finds her attractive, not so much for an average guy | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Is love real?(romantic) Love is the emotional side of strong attraction but in order to exist there needs to be the physical side too So yeah (romantic) love exists but it's conditional | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 08:39 PM |
| 0 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingWhat quality is superior? Being conventionally attractive Also there is a huge range in between "hot" and "unattractive" for most people. yeah, but if someone doesn't find you physically attractive they will never be into you and they'll never lust after you. This goes for both genders | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 08:33 PM |
| -4 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?some people still marry even if they're not truly attracted to their partner | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 08:27 PM |
| 4 | Am I wrong to feel like average women have been hyped up so much to the point where now it’s exponentially harder to date as an average man?Attraction is irrational, women are attracted to what they are attracted Being unattractive or plain/average doesn't change who they are attracted to or their physical standards | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 08:25 PM |
| 0 | How do I not grow resentful of my better looking more sexually successful friends?Imo every man wants to be appreciated for their looks, they wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a woman that is not physically attracted to them | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 08:22 PM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyWomen actually like men with good looking faces, even more if they're tall too as you said having muscles is just a bonus and kinda irrelevant if your face is unattractive | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 06:24 PM |
| -1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingif you're a sexual person and your partner doesn't make you feel lust then it's called settling | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 02:42 PM |
| 0 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingsettling simply means that you are not physically attracted to your partner lots lf people can be compatible with each other or be emotionally attracted without being attracted physically but is it worth to build a ltr without physical attraction? | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 02:37 PM |
| 0 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingmost people do, especially men. We want to experience mutual lust | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 02:32 PM |
| 0 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingI've talked with women that admitted that they don't find their boyfriends attractive Also in general, it's not difficult to see which couples are actually attracted to each other and which one are settling | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 02:31 PM |
| -1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyyoung women now want a partner that they desire and lust after, thus the main focus has become physical attraction in the past women didn't have this luxury and they had to settle for men they didn't desire/lust | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 01:15 PM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingBeing good looking guarantees that your partner will desire you physically/sexually if that's what you really want then become good looking. If you can't then wait patiently until you find a woman that is physically attracted to you | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 12:56 PM |
| -1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingit's based on physical attraction and emotional chemistry without physical attraction there's no real chemistry though | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 12:53 PM |
| 1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingmen want to be desired physically more than anything, they don't want to be settled for | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 12:51 PM |
| -3 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingthe quality of what you get when you're hot is superior though yeah unattractive people can get a relationship, but does their partner truly desires them sexually? Being Hot basically guarantees that your partner will lust after you, that's why it's the ultimate quality to have | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 12:50 PM |
| -1 | I feel like there’s such a common characterization of relationships as meritocractic on anti redpill/incel subs that’s so frustratingthere's a big difference in quality though Even if it's true that being extroverted and funny increases the chance to get into a relationship, you still won't be sexually desired if your partner doesn't find you physically attractive Hot guys instead experience what it feels to be lusted after even if they're weird or have bad personalities this is why being Good looking is superior imo | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 12:46 PM |
| 1 | How did the Red Pill and the Manosphere spread to the mainstream?most guys notice that good looking guys receive attention from women and have (a lot) more sex some of them became so jealous that they started to talk about it on the internet and memes came out of it the memes became mainstream because everyone relates to them, even if they deny it | /r/ExRedPill | 14/01/24 04:33 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.I don't want to argue the actual numbers, however if you observe social interactions IRL you can clearly see that good looking gus have a lot more sex than plain looking and unattractive guys and that they receive most of the interest. It might be actually be 70/30 or 65/35 I don't really care since the underlying phenomenon is true regardless Yes it can fuel negative emotions but such is life and imo we can't run from uncomfortable truths but rather accept them and try to find a way to make the… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.Because it's usually Redpilled guys that argue that beauty standards are cultural based and change according to people's options. Blackpilled guys argue that beauty standards are mostly objective and defined by Nature and Evolution Don't get me wrong, things are not so much black and white and people's opinions are usually a mesh of both ideologies. Consider what I wrote as "archetypes" | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:59 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.It's based on personal evidence, logic and personal preferences. If a woman is not physically attracted to a man, why is she having sex with him?? maybe there are ulterior motives... Also, ask yourself this, would you be fine knowing that your partner doesn't find you physically attractive and is only attracted mentally or emotionally? It's a rethorical question because I already know that most people wouldn't like it | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.you are describing the actions of women at different times in history. Which is a social dynamic, am I wrong?? The logical conclusion, for many, of what you say is that we must return to the past. It's their own conclusion and I'd label them as Redpilled if they do believe it. My own logical conclusion is that I need to become more attractive in order to receive genuine interest from women, that's why I'd describe myself as Blackpilled, although I prefer to use the label "Lookspilled" as there… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:50 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.80/20 rule is followed by moralizing shit towards women. Suggesting that women have "impossible standards" for men, for example. So, it's women's fault. It's not moralizing, it's a neutral rule per se, toxic incels use it to argue that it's women fault but it's another issue. 80/20 simply states that only a few lucky men are attractive enough to receive costant interest from women, while most men are not attractive enough and they only receive mild interest or no interest at all Everytime I di… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:44 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.No, it's a consideration on social dynamics. When women needed men to survive and casual sex was not accepted more men managed to find a wife (who didn't love them, obviously) Now that casual sex is accepted and women earn money and can survive alone men can't leverage money and status to get them as before and more men are sexless | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.the ideology that Looks, beauty and physical attraction are the main aspects in dating, sex and social life in general. Also, that attraction is not genuine without physical attraction Furthermore, beauty is mostly objective and genetic dependent | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:19 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.how are those things realted to blaming women? saying that women are attracted to hot guys is not blaming women. saying that they are whores for liking them is, though | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.toxic incels say they are blackpilled but they are actually not | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 08:01 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.how? I'm literally telling you that blackpilled guys don't want forced monogamy, they want the real genuine thing instead It's Redpilled guys that usually want transactional or forced relationships | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 07:54 PM |
| 0 | Blackpillers dressed as innocent sheep.Those guys are probably Redpilled not Blackpilled. Blackpilled guys don't blame women but their own looks and society for not recognizing pretty privilege. They don't want forced monogamy but true attraction and in order to get that you need to become attractive | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/23 06:34 PM |
| 13 | They say that single women tend to be happier than single men. It shows that the problem is men don't learn how to be happyWhat if we are biologically programmed to feel bad without sexual intimacy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 06:43 PM |
| 0 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistshalf true but let's not generalize and assume more of what we see I've personally seen generally nice men spouting half misogynistic takes about women. You might say that those men are faking being nice but they're not. They are really nice people most of the time, they simply have a toxic view of the opposite gender it sucks but it happens, especially if a man is particularly unattractive or particularly good looking. Both categories have their own distorted reasons for resenting women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 06:03 PM |
| 2 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?idk, it seems like this ideal men you're describing are like 0.1%, maybe even less The number of conventionally good looking guys alone is already less than 20% of the total regardless let's speak pragmatically, being good looking is the only way to get genuine interest from multiple women and this is what most men are after. you don't need to be good looking and rich, being good looking is enough by itself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 05:53 PM |
| 4 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?if the men you described are or were good looking then they were definitely perceived as HVM are they truly HVM? Idk it's hard to say but if many women are genuinely attracted to them then they probably are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:59 PM |
| 1 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?Status is about being famous or having a socially approved title (policeman, doctor, singer, dancer) Having friends and a social life is about social skills, which are skills that are almost impossible to not develop if you're good looking, even if you're an introvert | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:53 PM |
| 5 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?If you are conventionally good looking and everything else is average (average personality, average status, average wealth) you are indeed in the top 20% by default Your friend needs only a "little" push or experience to develop better social skills and he's good to go. Or maybe he's not actually that much attractive as you described him Besides better to be hot with poor social skills than to be unattractive but rich and with social skills. Social skills can always be fixed, your face not so mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsI think that judging people based on how they look or what they wear is kinda immature and shallow, EVEN if there are objective statistical patterns behind the judgment People should learn to talk to people before judging them about their lives and behaviors Different matter if we consider physical attraction, you don't need to know someone to rate his appearance, a few seconds are enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:08 PM |
| 10 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?without good looks you cannot be in the top 20% imo, because women won't be genuinely attracted to you being famous or rich without being good looking makes you a top tier betabux "husband material" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:55 PM |
| 9 | If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)?They are good looking, everything else is irrelevant. Money and Status only become relevant from early 30s when (some) women start wanting to settle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:52 PM |
| – | We should judge men for their pastthe correct attitude would be to say "it would be wise to judge men..." saying that women SHOULD is kinda overreacting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 01:33 PM |
| – | We should judge men for their pastWhat you said is mostly true, except the part about the obsession for teenage girls. Yet another reason to Looksmax I guess, it is much more easier to "fake" confidence, self esteem and an active sexual past with a pretty face... and you don't even need to fake for too long, being attractive will eventually lead to develop real confidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 01:31 PM |
| 13 | Does the Madonna complex cause relationships to get ruined?sorry to break this to you but maybe they weren't really attracted Girls don't friendzone guys that they like | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 02:31 AM |
| 11 | Are most men actually geared for romance or is it usually just a means to an end?Imo it's both overall it is a means to an end but usually men who display romance are emotionally invested in what they're doing, even if they cheat or are toxic partners It's the brain making you feel good because you're making your partner feel good with the goal of strengthening the bond, getting laid or simply getting validation This type of duality is actually very common, just think about the "love" between a mother and her child or the reason why people adopt pets | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 02:05 AM |
| 1 | I believe there is a scary silent majority of men who have never been in relationships or had sex.do you really believe that women in less developed country are genuinely attracted to average men? They are not and they just view sex as an asset. If you seek genuine sex you should go for western women, they are the ones that have sex for pleasure and value sexuality | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Beauty has nothing to do with health/superior genesa good looking face is linked to a good genetic | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Manipulating women to sex?! How is it even doable ?! You all just like to paint men as evil in romanceonly above average guys can do that | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 10:58 AM |
| 5 | I believe there is a scary silent majority of men who have never been in relationships or had sex.unattractive guys need to looksmax seriously and get cosmetic surgery for that to happen There's no way around that for younger people. Instead, unattractive men over 30 could try to get a better job, but that would make them betabux, it wouldn't really solve the true issue (lack of genuine attraction) | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 10:53 AM |
| 1 | It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years.there's a looks threshold for that too. If you are unattractive, people will laugh at you or ignore you because you're meant to be a nerd, not a social animal. Even if you're plain looking your best bet is to to be a secondary character thay hangs out with protagonists (good looking guys) which feels dehumanizing imo. On top of that you also need to be neurotypical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 10:47 AM |
| 46 | "Men would still have sex with an ugly woman" is a shitty consolation prizeUgly women have a lot more chances to be GENUINELY appreciated compared to ugly men. This is the real consolation prize. It's not just about finding sex, women also have the advantage on finding a partner that likes them back. This is because men's overall tastes are broad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 10:39 AM |
| 1 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?Cosmetic surgery in order to become a man they actually want to date genuinely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Why is the average person so bitterly insecure and what (if anything) can be done about it?People are insecure because deep down they know that they are not attractive and they don't actually like their bodies (and faces). The only way to fix this would be to alter our physical appearance in order to become attractive. Coincidentally this would also solve most dating and sexual issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:24 PM |
| 2 | I think men don't understand that most women prefer a friendship bond first before dating.that's not how it works, being friendzoned means that you are friends but she's not attracted to you You can be friendzoned even if you don't do boyfriend shit and hang out once every month | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:20 PM |
| – | CMV Believing Personality matters more then looks is delusion, but believing Personality doesnt have a big impact in you're smv is also delusion.Nah it won't turn them off short term. Maybe you might be right regarding a LTR, but realistically most good looking guys don't have boring personalities. It's unattractive guys that are more boring and have more internal issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:15 PM |
| 1 | A thought about male empowerment vs female empowerment.Yeah, meaning they actually want a woman that genuinely likes them and accepts them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Statistically, what do you thinnk is more common?I agree, but men don't need to be tall to be good looking, they just need to be at least around average height with a pretty face | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 03:23 PM |
| 3 | CMV Believing Personality matters more then looks is delusion, but believing Personality doesnt have a big impact in you're smv is also delusion.Do people think you get laid by being mute No, but most women are attracted to good looking men before those men start talking Also, think about those attractive men on OLD that receive messages from women just because they look good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 03:19 PM |
| 3 | CMV Believing Personality matters more then looks is delusion, but believing Personality doesnt have a big impact in you're smv is also delusion.What are you taking about?? Physical requirements for casual sex are higher if you're a man, even women admit it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 11:52 AM |
| 3 | A thought about male empowerment vs female empowerment.Men try so much to act though and don't admit that what they are really after is a genuine connection and the validation that comes with it, however they struggle to get it so they try to act like they don't care. as for Women I think that they have deep down an inferiority complex towards men and try to overcompensate flexing how much they are superior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 10:06 AM |
| 9 | What is the main reason men are single 2023Most men don't look good, simple as that. Men that are non famous and non rich (90% of men) will struggle with women if they don't have a pretty face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:56 AM |
| 6 | CMV Believing Personality matters more then looks is delusion, but believing Personality doesnt have a big impact in you're smv is also delusion.Maybe his face looks better than you think. Do women look at him and are they attracted to him before he starts talking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:50 AM |
| 8 | CMV Believing Personality matters more then looks is delusion, but believing Personality doesnt have a big impact in you're smv is also delusion.Personality only has a big impact negatively, meaning very bad personality can make a woman lose attraction. The effect of Personality is small positively, it can't compensate bad Looks and lack of physical attraction. It can only be a boost when there is already physical attraction. I'm talking about Dating dynamics though. Personality is important for LTRs, however you need to date first before getting into such relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:45 AM |
| 1 | The single life is great. I recommend it to everybodyBeing single is great if you have options and can find casual sex easily basically, it's cool if you're good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 01:33 PM |
| 5 | The consensus here is that unless a man is an absolute specimen he can expect to get dropped for simply looking at a lady the wrong way - but the reality doesn’t line up1 unattractive/undesirable man getting a relationship for once doesn't take away the suffering and the loneliness of other 99 unattractive men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 10:10 AM |
| 2 | your physical/material attributes aren’t the reason why people don’t want to date you. cmv!did you really not find them aesthetically pleasing? physical attraction is about the aesthetic feeling, if you want to straight up have sex with someone that's Sexual attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Non blackpilled people what exactly does the blackpill get wrong?I'd probably fuck about 40-50% of girls in their 20s. Other guys have their own 50% and since men's tastes are kinda wide the result is that most women rarely struggle to get sex, even unattractive ones have options This is basic blackpill | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 12:50 AM |
| 13 | your physical/material attributes aren’t the reason why people don’t want to date you. cmv!Personality should be blamed only if women were physically attracted to a man but then turned off However what happens for most guys is that most women don't even consider them as potential partners because they're are not physically attracted The reason men get ignored or rejected is almost always lack of physical attraction, which depends on their Looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 12:27 AM |
| -1 | Being incel is normal for menwrong comparison, also you're deranged if you think it is okay to get women forcefully | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Non blackpilled people what exactly does the blackpill get wrong?ugly women are rare, most are fuckable. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Sex ratio at birth is 105 boys for every 100 girls. So for some men it’s over even in a perfect world.It's not really a problem per se, considering that most women have sex with multiple partners during their 20s The real problem is that most of those guys are unattractive. However if we altered the gender ratio to be something like 40:60 (men:women) then those fewer men would benefit form less competition | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Non blackpilled people what exactly does the blackpill get wrong?You're right but realistically women are rarely below a 5 looks wise. It's extremely rare for a woman to be so ugly to be considered unfuckable. And even if she is, she could always try to get in shape, unless her face is deformed (which is extremely rare) | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Being incel is normal for menyeah but women were basically forced to be with them which is not cool. Most modern people want a genuine connection not a forced one | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 04:10 PM |
| -6 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsabout what? wanting to make men and women connnect more with each other through physical attraction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 04:06 PM |
| 3 | As a normie in a relationship, should you cheat on your gf to make sure that you're not getting cucked?I say don't cheat, it's not cool and sometimes is counter productive (your gf might lose attraction for you) However you need to have other girls simping for you, this is what will truly keep your gf on edge and boost her attraction As always, if you're sub7 good luck finding women that simp for you | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy mean most men will forever be undesirable.Ideal for women's attraction. The average height will never become 7 ft because being too tall is counter productive and women would prefer a 6'2 men over 7' "giraffes" with joint problems and higher cardiovascular risks As for the face, there are clearly certain features that are universally attractive like a strong jawline, almond deep set eyes, high protruding cheekbones, head full of hairs, simmetry and others. Those features are based too on biological advantages like better breathing, bett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 03:52 PM |
| -9 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsIt's indirectly what truly matters because if we can find a way to make men more attractive to women everyone will benefit, global mental health will improve and people will feel more purpose in life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Hypergamy mean most men will forever be undesirable.They are not relative. Good looks are kinda absolute and height too has an ideal range, human beings can't get continuously taller. An ideal height exists and it's probably around 6'1 - 6'3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:32 PM |
| -1 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsNo we don't deny it, many men an pill guys know thay deep down most women have image issues We also know that when a fat woman calls herself an 8 she's lying to herself and she doesn't actually believe it, she's just trying to convince herself HOWEVER what truly matters is that none of this has a meaningful impact on the dating market. Good looking guys still attract most of the girls regardless of the their internal issues Meanwhile unattractive guys get rejected regardless of girls self percep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 11:07 AM |
| 1 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingno they can't and women that seriously give that advice are deranged as much as the guy above | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy mean most men will forever be undesirable.Not forever. Maybe in the near future we'll find a way to effectively alter our DNAs and make everyone tall and good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:20 AM |
| 0 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingIt can't be a constant because Looks and beauty are mostly objective. However I believe that we'll never reach a point where everyone is good looking with natural selection alone. We need science and progress to make everyone artificially good looking imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:17 AM |
| 4 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingdoesn't matter the deeper reasom tbh. What matters its thay many men don't find women interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:07 AM |
| 4 | Men should be able to get someone equally or even slightly less attractive than them, and most of them can’t. That’s a real problem.I guess you're right, however in his defense it's just the way he Looks that is the problem, If he was good looking then women would be lining up regardless of hiw personal opinions | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 01:57 AM |
| 14 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingcompletely disproven by asking women, they explicitly say that most men are unattractive Also, women are extremely visual stimulated too. Good Looking guys attract women because they're hot and that's a fact | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:06 PM |
| 2 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingdude you're completely deranged. Gay people can't change their sexuality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:03 PM |
| 9 | Men should be able to get someone equally or even slightly less attractive than them, and most of them can’t. That’s a real problem.I don't get why you said "Should" Sex and relationships should be about mutual genuine attraction, not about forced attraction btw yeah it's a problem that many men will never experience real mutual attraction, global mental health would skyrocket if everyone could | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/23 08:41 PM |
| 2 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingGirls with stronger features are even more desirable, if you look at female models or beautiful actresses many have a strong jawline and visible protruding cheekbones Obviously there need to be a certain balance, a woman with too much strong masculine features and too few pretty features will be unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 08:36 PM |
| 6 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingWomen saying that most men are unattractive, ugly or simply unremarkable Also, many guys being without options, meaning there are no girls simping for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 08:33 PM |
| 20 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingWashing your hands makes your jawline bigger and it makes your face chiseled, it can also regrow hair for balding men. It's a secret though, don't tell anyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 08:31 PM |
| 3 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingdo you believe that men in western countries will "evolve" to become handsome due to modern beauty standards being applied to us too? interesting take about gays btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 08:28 PM |
| 7 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingNah, they truly look better by default A lot of undesirable features don't look so bad on a woman face, just think about weak jawlines and prey eyes for example | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 08:26 PM |
| 2 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingIf you're talking about guys in their 20s those with a girlfriend are the lucky minority that managed to get one, and btw yeah it's not guaranteed that their gf is truly attracted, they might just be placeholder boyfriends. If you talking about men over 30 most get settled for, so it doesn't really count tbh btw if you reread my previous comment I said "most women" not "every women" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 08:22 PM |
| 20 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingwomen with plain faces are attractive to many men conversely, men with plain faces are unattractive for most women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Men are not malicious for being centered around sexshouldn't I? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Imagine for a moment that you loved dogs.You probably wouldn't. You can't choose what you're attracted to | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/10/23 06:58 PM |
| 3 | Men are not malicious for being centered around sextotally agree This is why physical attraction is the most important aspect in a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 03:10 PM |
| – | A $20 coffee date is disrespectful for us young women.What about genuine attraction? which is like the reason most people actually date | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 01:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.but he wouldn't be considered sexual or physical attractive, which is what most sexless guys and incels focus on. Conversely consider a random male model, he will have many women drooling over him. Some things can't be bought and you need to posses certain assets to experience them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:27 AM |
| 1 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?consider how we live in the first world, we have stability and security, and we don't need to struggle to eat, as a result our brain "switches" and focuses on stuff of higher level (sex, love friendship) to get fulfillment. If you wanted to remove people's need for sex you'd need to make life harsh to the point no one has enough time or enough stability to prioritize it. Instead the more we progress the more being able to have sex will become relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:20 AM |
| 3 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.nah it's still high af. A women liking your personality or status won't make her sexually attracted to you Take Elon Musk, he's neither ugly nor good looking and yet women don't drool over him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Asking modern women to treat all the men they date equally is illogical.it's not actually that much subjective. People's tastes mostly overlap, however women's are naturally more selective and as a result it's rare for ordinary guy to meet women interested in them For good looking guys it's like 50/50 imo (it's a lot), meaning half of the women will find them attractive and half not really attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 12:28 AM |
| 3 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.I'm talking about sexual attraction. Ugly men thay are rich or famous can get women and can get relationships but it's transactional, not actually genuine if you want to experience a genuine sexual relationship you need to go for women that find you physically/sexually attractive, not women that see you as a provider | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 12:25 AM |
| 1 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?you can disagree how much you want but we're talking about people's feelings. If being sexlessness makes people feel negatively that's not something we have to discuss about, instead it's something we should accept ad a fact | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 12:20 AM |
| – | Maladaptive Social Cognition & Pattern Recignition in Datingmosy women flirt only with good looking guys. Plain and unattractive guys receive signals very very rarely, most women are not interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV: In order to be deemed “likable” someone else has to like youfuckboys are successful because they're good looking. being arrogant is just a byproduct of being successful and having multiple options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Asking modern women to treat all the men they date equally is illogical.They are all based upon (mutual) physical attraction, it's a necessary ingredient. Chemistry cannot be good without physical attraction Also, ordinary looking means the big majority of women will not be interested in you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:07 PM |
| 7 | Women say to look for signals to approach, yet there are no universal signals to approach a womanWatch how women behave around good looking guys and go for those women that behave in the same way for you However if you're not good looking it might take years to find one interested in you the only way to speed up the process is meeting lots of girls hoping that your mental health will withstand multiple rejections | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:00 PM |
| 4 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.Reality is much less forgiving, obviously most guys are not deformed, but neither they are attractive enough to make women interested in them they're stuck inside a limbo where they are sexually invisible but at the same time the mainstream keeps telling them there's nothing wrong in their appearance because they're not deformed, ignoring the issue of unattractive and plain looking guys (most guys are in this range looks wise) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.Looks are far more important. (Mutual) physical attraction is required every day not just at the beginning of the relationship, it's a crucial aspect to have a healthy relationship and sex life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:42 PM |
| 8 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.it's not about making other women jealous, it's about basic attraction. Girl don't want to kiss or be intimate with guys they're not attracted to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.lol society truly is narrow minded for not having realized it sooner let's see how many more years of suffering will pass before this simple truth becomes mainstream | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:34 PM |
| 3 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.yeah but most men are already disqualified abefore they begin to talk because they're not enough attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:25 PM |
| 7 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.status can't male you sexually attractive, only good Looks can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:23 PM |
| 5 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?wouldn't it be just easier to live with a close friend at that point? why do you want a partner if you don't care about the sexual aspect of the relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:34 AM |
| 38 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?I think that people in the first world can't really feel fulfilled without an active sexual life, it's one of those things that make or break a person It's like not having friends, technically you can live without them but you'll often feel miserable and your mental health will suffer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:31 AM |
| 3 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?that's not completely true, having sex feels great even if you can have it regularly good looking guys have plenty of sex and they don't get bored | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:27 AM |
| 6 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?would you find a deadbedroom (or a borderline one) acceptable if your girl had romantic feelings for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:26 AM |
| 7 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?sex is more important though, at least for men. As a guy you won't feel loved if you don't have sex regularly and with passion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenwould you have casual sex with a stupid hot guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:13 AM |
| – | Have you ever stayed friends or became friends with a guy(s) that you had romantic feelings for?I'd like it if they were interested but I wouldn't force them (obviously) but why are you asking? my original point was that the negative feelings don't just go away with time if you lack attention from the opposite sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenyeah but if they guy is hot the issue is usually to get him to commit. Women don't need to be "convinced" to commit when they're attracted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 07:45 PM |
| – | Have you ever stayed friends or became friends with a guy(s) that you had romantic feelings for?being invisible to women in general is a constant silent rejection having friends is great and necessary to be fullfiled but they can't replace lack of sexual and romantic connection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 07:43 PM |
| – | Have you ever stayed friends or became friends with a guy(s) that you had romantic feelings for?The attraction fades over time (not completely but most of it) but the feelings of powerlessness and inadequacy caused by multiple rejection and being invisible never do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 03:25 PM |
| 2 | So who is really trying to fool themselves? Red or Blue?Both, Looks is the most important aspect for dating and relationships you can't actually compensate lack of good looks, you can only make yourself a better settling option with money or status only women that are physically attracted to you can really love you genuinely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 03:19 PM |
| 8 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenit's not actually a paradox, you're just implicitly describing a good looking man hot guys have plenty of options, obviously if one wants to commit it is jackpot for the girl he chooses | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 03:15 PM |
| 23 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenThey judge men on how much they are physically attractive lol Ofc it is implicit that if a guy is good looking he will have options and he will be popular | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 03:13 PM |
| – | No one take heightism in males seriousdecent looking means like 7/10 facially, which is less than 30% of men (I'm probably being generous) I'm not saying that 6s and 5s don't fuck at all, but they do it very rarely or only inside an LTR | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 07:31 PM |
| 5 | I think the true love it s just when you are youngI believe that true love is physical attraction + mental attraction + good chemistry You can find it at any age, the probability dramatically increases if you're good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 07:12 PM |
| – | No one take heightism in males seriousonly if they have a hot face lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 07:10 PM |
| – | No one take heightism in males seriousScientists should concentrate their efforts to try to create something to add at least 4-5 inches. They should focus on finding a way to effectively alter our DNA, in order to alter our physical appearance. Only in this way will we have true social equality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 07:09 PM |
| 2 | romantic relationship is a privilege not a right, i think understand that would solve a lot of issues between men and womenTechnically it's true but knowing it rationally is still not enough to turn off the feeling of loneliness and inadequacy “ i want both parties to find fulfillment and want a more harmonious dynamic between the genders” I believe that most men want this too. imo the issue is that we can't have those harmonious dynamics without mutual physical attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 07:06 PM |
| -1 | romantic relationship is a privilege not a right, i think understand that would solve a lot of issues between men and womenThey’re just as changeable so I really don’t care or acknowledge what women “find attractive” because what they “find attractive” is so different to what it was 50 years ago Not that much, women's tastes are mostly biological and society can't change them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 07:00 PM |
| 0 | Women know their 1-10 value for the most part, and know where they fall in the sexual marketplace. All of this "I don't rank people's value" is just a virtue signal.yeah but they're in denial most men are in denial too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 06:58 PM |
| 5 | Quick thought, men don't have instant beauty tricks and it makes it harder for them!The only significant boosts for men's attractiveness are losing weight or cosmetic surgery, neither are instantaneous though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Are you guys ok?someone one day is gonna think yours is awesome. I don't care if this happens once in decade. I'd want it to happen on a regular basis | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/10/23 02:30 PM |
| 4 | Y’all think the looks maxxing space is racist?ask yourself, are the male beauty standards "white" due to an artificial choices or are they white because women find white features more attractive? | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Prostitution is the only kind of sex that exists, because sex always has a priceSex is pure and genuine when there's mutual physical attraction | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Are you guys ok?just another day having a face I'm not comfortable with and that I can only change with invasive surgeries | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 06:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV : personality is just as shallow a reason to be with somebody as looksanecdotal evidence, dead bedroom stories, the whole dynamics that men "peak" in their 30s and magically more women become interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 04:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV : personality is just as shallow a reason to be with somebody as looksmany women have ugly husbands that they're not physically attracted to. I'm curious if this trend will continue to exist for future generations, since young women seem to value men's looks more nowadays | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 06:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV : personality is just as shallow a reason to be with somebody as looksHusbands still want to be seen as hot and sexy by their wives that's why being labeled "husband material" is offensive, it implies that physical attraction is not on point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 04:02 PM |
| 5 | Discussion : Am I wrong in saying I’m noticing more attractive men settling for less attractive women these days?only for LTRs, not for hookups and most of dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 12:42 AM |
| 16 | Discussion : Am I wrong in saying I’m noticing more attractive men settling for less attractive women these days?some men cam recognize beauty in other men without feeling sexual attraction same way most men like Lambos but don't want to fuck them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 12:41 AM |
| 1 | be careful with LTRs if there wasn't attraction at first sightfinding someone handsome means there's physical attraction involved | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 12:38 AM |
| 3 | be careful with LTRs if there wasn't attraction at first sighthave you ever had celebrity crushes? | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 12:36 AM |
| 1 | be careful with LTRs if there wasn't attraction at first sightit still means you find them physically attractive | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 12:33 AM |
| 2 | be careful with LTRs if there wasn't attraction at first sightfor real lol. Replace god with evolution though | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 12:29 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesyes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 12:27 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesyeah but I think that being intimate with an human being would be more fulfilling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 03:15 PM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesWhy go to such lengths if you could simply design your avatar to look like a male model unless you have gender dysphoria ofc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 03:13 PM |
| 6 | be careful with LTRs if there wasn't attraction at first sightare you trying to say that when you see Chris hemsworth or Brad Pitt you don't feel anything? not even an "aesthetic pleasure" | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 01:10 AM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableThen tell me what women hope to achieve by making men wait and playing games | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:35 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuescall it what you want, physical attraction can't be generated through behavior or personality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:30 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesYou can't have real sex and intimacy with people online, so no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:23 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesmankind never created an utopia where everyone is fullfilled mentally, socially and sexually. When we'll create one we'll know if the "hedonistic treadmill" still applies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:22 AM |
| 0 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesI think that it's impossible to brainwash women to be truly attracted to men they don't find physically attractive. At best they might tolerate their company but they wouldn't feel lust for them. However, more realistically, they'd feel resentful in the long run | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesWomen will still want the best. Nah, women want a partner they are attracted to. If all men were hot then women would find most of them genuinely attractive and they would actually filter them prioritizing personality and chemistry. The hypergamy that the Redpill talks about is based upon the issue that most men are unattractive to women and that many eventually settle filtering men by their money and resources | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleand then you wrote that you need to find them ugly for it to work and that some of your friends did want more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesI know what you're saying and I don't agree. If we could create a virtual world full of activities and hobbies to do people wouldn't get bored. Also if we want to be realistic it'd impossible to live 100% of the time inside the virtual world, thus people would still experience the struggles of irl life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 11:38 PM |
| 7 | If you were guaranteed a partner and didn't have to do any work would you take it? *obviously there are conditions*It'd be slightly better for some men and a lot worse for everyone else. besides, you can't really force people to not cheat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 11:19 PM |
| 9 | If a women says she doesn't like tall Chads...and he's Asian which is a big no for guys here. Good looking non-white people are fine, when people here say being asian is bad they refer to average plain looking guys. Good looks are appreciated regardless of race, being white is just a bonus | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 11:12 PM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesIf the movies were realistic people irl would beg the machines to be plugged back inside the Matrix, and they would also ask to live hedonistically without ever working or paying bills | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 11:05 PM |
| -1 | Is suicide better than livinghe "pays" a LOT less and he has a totally different experience, he gets genuine passionate sex | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 11:00 PM |
| 5 | If a women says she doesn't like tall Chads...short definition: handsome guy long theoretical definition: a guy who is extremely good looking facially, he has an optimal blend of masculine and pretty features, he's also tall, like 6ft+ and has a strong body with wide shoulders and good muscle mass | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 10:58 PM |
| 1 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesThings like VRchat already exist If you can't do physical stuff it won't completely fulfill people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 10:48 PM |
| 0 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesYou know who has less hardships socially? good looking and neurotypical people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 10:46 PM |
| 2 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesI think that some guys wouldn't even care tbh. If anything it would grant the wish of those transgender folks that want to be sexually accepted by cis people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 10:45 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableWe can't be objective when we are emotionally involved and we lie to ourselves. Making men wait for sex/intimacy or playing mind games with the goal of artificially maintaining attraction is not making things better, for both men and women I think it'd be better to go straight towards physical intimacy to better evauate compatibility and chemistry from the beginning. Better to know sooner than later | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 10:39 PM |
| 2 | An advanced virtual reality like "the Matrix" could solve dating and loneliness issuesI've watched too much black mirror lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Is suicide better than livingI think it'd be wise for people to wait at least until reaching 30 before seriously considering extreme stuff like this. Maybe things will become better... | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 09:34 PM |
| – | Are some misogynists just gay?Yeah, because you can get away with so many flaws that would be unattractive on a male face. Weak and small jawlines, prey eyes, face too narrow, face too wide, lack of boniness and you don't have to deal with balding or being short. Don't get me wrong, girls with these flaws are usually not conventionally attractive but they can still be cute or fine. As a guy instead you get a couple of flaws and you're stuck in the "invisible" or "unattractive" range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:22 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableYeah I think you're right I don't think men realize they're doing it I agree, in the end everyone acts upon the whims of their brain, most times without realizing what is happening. ugly guys will experience a boost in their attraction in the beginning due to their inner issues, whether they are truly attracted or not will become more clear only with time. I think most are not aware of these dynamics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:03 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableIt's not always like this. If there's mutual physical attraction both men and women start high and then it goes even higher the more you know each other (if you're compatible). What you're describing seems like a situation where both are settling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:41 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableI don't necessarily mean sleeping together. However kissing and doing foreplay asap will probably show each other's colors and on top of that you will have a hint about sexual compatibility. Imagine you do some foreplay with a guy you're dating and the days after he becomes more distant and you feel he lost attraction, I'd say you dodged a bullet no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:33 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableMaybe what is really happening is that some men "fake" more attraction in the beginning and when women show interest they relax and show their real colors. Another reason why people who are dating should get intimate as soon as possible Btw this whole dynamic feels like something that only a guy with options would do. A sexless guy without options will like you even more if you give him a chance, most likely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:19 PM |
| 7 | If men are so desperate for sex and a relationship, it makes no sense that half of them never ask women outWomen are attracted to good looking guys good looking guys are usually kinda redpilled the extreme of men have the same views, but one extreme is very successful with women and another extreme is a total failure There's some truth in it. Good looking guys agree with incels and blackpill way more than average guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:59 PM |
| 4 | If men are so desperate for sex and a relationship, it makes no sense that half of them never ask women outthis is not completely true, sometimes girls will fake attention towards their male friends to receive attention and validation from them. However it's a different kind of attention compared to the real one they display for good looking guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:42 PM |
| 5 | If men are so desperate for sex and a relationship, it makes no sense that half of them never ask women outthey are both desperate and fearful, eventually most become attracted to pill ideologies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:38 PM |
| 11 | If men are so desperate for sex and a relationship, it makes no sense that half of them never ask women outTrue, this is also why many guys become disillusioned: they never receive signals Women shouldn't blame men if they do not give them signals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:36 PM |
| 8 | If men are so desperate for sex and a relationship, it makes no sense that half of them never ask women outFeelings of inadequacy and fear of being rejected (again) are a big deterrent But overall men do ask women out, probably not as much explicitly and with less frequency than society would expect I think that most guys wait for signals from girls, without signals they don't proceed further | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:18 PM |
| 0 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossiblemight be the case for him, but usually men want to be seen as sexual partners above all else. That's why being labeled as "husband material" is considered a red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleyeah they can be friends but it's not genuine if one has feelings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI think that if there are romantic feelings involved then the friendship cannot be genuine because the person with a crush is not going to act spontanously, as they would have without the crush | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | How would you design an online dating app to make it a good experience for both men and women?why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleAnd what is the problem with having a crush and letting it die down again? IMO once the crush is there it'll never completely fade away, especially if you keep seeing the other person regularly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleGuys usually considers their female friends "doable" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI'm talking about genuine close friendship, did you even read the post? I also explicitly wrote that the friendship is NOT fake even if there are feelings involved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI don't get it, you say that it's not impossible and then the rest of your comment agrees with the post lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI'm talking about close genuine (platonic) friendships. Obviously they can have friends and they can even be attracted to them but if they do it's no longer genuine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a bisexual?They're not sexually attracted. It's different than viewing them as "less than" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:47 PM |
| 0 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleHusband and wife should be each other's best friends. Maybe they should from an external pov, but if one internally feels that their partner is their best friend it's weird. Best friends don't have sex with each other | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:44 PM |
| -1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleMental connection is obviously a necessary ingredient, but sexual attraction is paramount for a healthy relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Being a femdomcel is an under-talked about failoNever fap to it and try to not think about it, it probably won't work but you could always try Also, focus on other kinks that are more acceptable (if you have them) | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 02:31 AM |
| 0 | Would you date a bisexual?Yeah I agree, it's the other guy that doesn't get it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleNo lmao. It can happen if both want, but it definitely ain't just gonna happen anyway lol you cannot control your inner feelings, you can't actively choose whether you develop a crush or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a bisexual?People don't have to justify their shallow tastes when it's about sexual attraction. If you don't like a girl because her skin is dark it sucks but that's it, you're not racist as long as you treat her with respect. Remember that people cannot control what they are sexually attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:50 AM |
| 14 | Being a femdomcel is an under-talked about failoI made posts about how hot it was to imagine your wife storming out after a fight and letting another man breed her and cum inside her to “teach you a lesson” I usually don't like kink shaming people but holy shit this is painfully cringe. Sorry but I really can't understand how a man can be aroused by the thought of sharing his partner | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Women do NOT care about facial appearance, and consistently date dudes who are completely average looking just because they meet their bizarre height requirement or have some other arbitrary attributeThere are too few facially hot guys, most girls will not be able to LTR one and thus they go for the second best option on the list: tall normies It's a kind of settling, but imo is acceptable because it's still based on physical attraction | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:10 AM |
| 6 | Which is more important height or looks?Good looking face is a bigger halo than being tall. If you think about it actors and models are chosen for their face, not their heights | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Which is more important height or looks?no, because it would not be based upon genuine attraction | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 12:59 AM |
| 7 | Would you date a bisexual?I've talked with girls irl about this and I can confirm your speculations. Even is he's a top he's still seen as feminine, the fact that he likes kissing other men and playing with their asses and dicks is too much for most women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleThose are not exclusively biological boundaries. By that logic, a male would have no problem making a move on an adopted baby sister that he was raised with. Also by that logic on a darker note, a male with an adopted daughter would also have zero hangups in regards to boundaries if she were physically attractive It doesn't happen because the brain still labels the person as a relative. And let's be grateful it does because otherwise it'd be really cringe It's different when we consider friendsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossiblePhysical attraction usually lead to romantic feelings if you spend enough time together. Once these feelings are there, I'd say you can no longer call it a true genuine friendship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 12:18 AM |
| 7 | Would you date a bisexual?Women, on the other hand, just can't abide the competition and insecurity that causes and will accuse a guy of being weak when in reality he has a much larger pool of potential lovers and thus options Then it should be the same with good looking guys, but it's clearly not. You seem to struggle to accept the fact that women get icks about certain behaviours that are perceived as weak or feminine. Being attracted to other men is a (perceived) sign of weakness and femininity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 12:12 AM |
| 1 | It's a big world out there"plain" and "unattractive " Ain't synonyms They're not, but the struggle is similar. 6/10 guys struggle similarly to 5/10 most guys aint unattractive Most guys are in the plain - unattractive range. Between 5 and 6 Yes, lets go back to the good old times when Women were in the kitchen/s No, patriarchy sucks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 12:05 AM |
| 8 | Would you date a bisexual?doesn't matter the presentation, for most girls the masculine aura disappears once they discover he likes anal and sucking D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleif there's physical attraction involved it cannot be a genuine one. You can still call it a friendship though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:56 PM |
| -5 | Would you date a bisexual?having different tastes lol do you even know what homophobia is? Let me tell you that it's not based on sexual attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:52 PM |
| 6 | It's a big world out thereI live in Europe, good looking guys are full of options and plain/unattractive guys (most guys) struggle to get dates and have sex. All developed and sexually free countries are like this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:42 PM |
| -3 | Would you date a bisexual?The fact that bi women would reject bi men shows the latent homophobia that exists among women it's not homophobia. It means they are not sexually attracted to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI updated the comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleIs that usually if someone is above a 7 in appearance, it’s likely cause they can afford to do certain things. No, it means they have a decent bone structure and they are also lean | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:32 PM |
| 0 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleMerely finding a person physically attractive does not constitute a sexual relationship No, but it means that it can no longer be defined as "platonic" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:29 PM |
| 17 | Would you date a bisexual?Bi guys are usually seen by women as weak and feminine men and this is an ick for them. I usually don't agree with the extremely masculine alpha model that the redpill describes, but I gotta agree that most women are definitely not attracted to weakness and femininity in men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:21 PM |
| 0 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleAgain, as someone mentioned earlier, can gay men not have male friends? Can lesbians not have female friends? Yeah they can but if romantic or sexual attraction is involved than the friendship is not completely genuine can a male not have a close familial relationship with a sister or cousin if he thinks she's hot? No, theres mental boundaries that go up that prevent that train of thought from going further These boundaries are mostly biological. It's genetically unhealthy to reproduce with yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:13 PM |
| 0 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleBecause women deep down expect their male friends to be attracted to them. And they're not entirely to blame tbh, because it usually happens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleThe presence of an awareness of physical attraction doesn't otherwise impact a current status of a relationship. It kinda does, spend enough time together with someone who you find physically attractive and things will probably escalate if the attraction is mutual. Btw it is also a red flag if you're in a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleYou're talking rationally about things that happen irrationaly. People develop crushes irrationally, they don't do a risk-benefit analysis Btw I believe you're actually right and that men with options (good looking) develop crushes on their female friends more rarely. But this happens because they are already fullfilled sexually and romantically, as I said above it's irrational. If anything, they can rationally decide to not spend too much time with a girl in order to avoid crushes (from both si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI'm talking about genuine close friendship, if you hang out once in a while inside a social circle the post doesn't apply | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:04 PM |
| 0 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI explicitly wrote that the friendship is NOT fake, it simply can no longer be considered genuine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleLOL men developing crushes on women is one of the oldest stories of mankind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:48 PM |
| -4 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossiblePlenty of men and women do become best friends with their partners because they spend all of their time together. Yeah, the problem is that often the physical attraction is lacking and it becomes a Deadbedroom Kinda off topic but imo you should never consider your partner your best friend, you should consider him your sexual partner above all else. If you feel your partner is your best friend it is a red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:45 PM |
| -1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleNo, it is actually possible that a man can find a woman attractive and not want to date her. If he also likes her mentally (close friendship) it's impossible that he doesn't have feelings I mean, physical attraction + mental attraction is basically the recipe for love | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleIt feels like you had feelings for this guy but you're in denial about it, I got this kind of vibes reading your comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:39 PM |
| -2 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleThe friendship cannot be considered genuine as long as there are romantic feelings involved imo. It becomes a friendship with ulterior motives If the attraction fades then it can revert to a genuine friendship, but can these feelings really fade completely? (I think not) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleBecause men usually befriend women with ulterior motives. Good looking guys are an exception though, they are so much fulfilled sexually and romantically that they don't need to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleThey might have developed a crush without you noticing. You cannot control other people's feelings and it's not like they need to ask your permission to develop the crush | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleI'd like to see a "what if" scenario where you hang out, drink a little and then you try to kiss one of your close friends. Would they really reject the kiss? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleYeah in theory, but in practice the guy probably considers the girl "doable" and eventually he's going to develop feelings Also, let's not pretend a minimum looks treshold doesn't exist for frienship too. Men are not going to be close friends with girls they find ugly and vice versa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Male friendships are not an alternative to romantic affection because they often end up having an element of competitionThey are not an alternative because heterosexual guys don't want to have sex with other guys. Only genuine heterosexual sex can fulfill sexually starved and lonely guys (who would have thought) Male friendships are still great tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 07:50 PM |
| 12 | The belief that only a small minority of men gain access to the majority of women and take them from the dating pool (be it by serial monogamy or polygamy) is a delusion stems from a glaring lack of statistical understanding and rash generalizations from limited real-life observations.you don't believe that good looking guys have plenty of women that simp for them? do you even have attractive friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 05:21 PM |
| 1 | How would you design an online dating app to make it a good experience for both men and women?Imo it'd be a slightly better situation than the current one Even if dating apps will be banned in the future don't expect any big change for the dating market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 03:04 PM |
| 2 | How would you design an online dating app to make it a good experience for both men and women?dating app should not be used for profits imo. Developed countries should create and only allow one app that works on the principle of increasing global mental health | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Hating women for wanting chad is dumbI still don't get why you should hate them for thinking that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 12:33 PM |
| -3 | One of my favorite Blackpill quotes: "She's not playing hard to get, you're just hard to want" (Face and LMS)don't blame women, they don't choose who they're attracted to if you want to blame something blame evolution, natural selection or your own DNA | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 12:31 PM |
| 5 | How would you design an online dating app to make it a good experience for both men and women?Your suggestions are well thought. I'd add that to truly work every country should ban other dating apps and that the number of likes received in order to become invisible should be dependent on the gender ratio of the app. Also I'd add the option that once a month men can send likes to women to spice things up, however the number of likes should be higher if women ignore you and lower if women message you regularly Btw let's not fool ourselves, it wouldn't actually work. if this was the only ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 12:14 PM |
| 2 | How would you design an online dating app to make it a good experience for both men and women?how is it different than what already happens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere.delusional thinking. People usually reject people due to lack of physical attraction. 15 seconds is more than enough to understand if you like them or not. Also if you get rejected you're not one step closer, you're stuck on the starting line | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:43 AM |
| -2 | What would/will you do to help your future son in the dating market?Obviously I'm also going to try to encourage him to be social and neurotypical. Btw no I'm not going to measure T levels and I'm not going to lecture my son on the doomer side of blackpill I'd simply tell him: do these things because they feel good and you'll become more attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 10:37 AM |
| 3 | People here are too quick to dismiss men's lived experience when they tell you many average men peak later in life.If you peak later in life it probably means you'll get settled for due to your money and assets, not because you become more physical attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Are men are more emotionally fragile than women ?No, they are simply more vocal about their complaints | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 10:07 AM |
| -2 | What would/will you do to help your future son in the dating market?I don't plan to have kids, but in case it happens I'd introduce him to soft Looksmaxxing as early as possible: lots of physical activity, braces, correct posture and mewing from early age. Also contact sport to increase T levels | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 10:04 AM |
| 10 | One of my favorite Blackpill quotes: "She's not playing hard to get, you're just hard to want" (Face and LMS)"you can't force attraction" "physical attraction can't be negotiated" | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 09:56 AM |
| 2 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesyou nailed it However I gotta agree with the general statement that many people want honesty but when they get it they struggle to handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:46 AM |
| 2 | Why are some people unwilling to admit that they are in competition when dating?no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:44 AM |
| 0 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesas far as I've seen guys here like different types of girls. Generally speaking, guys want a woman that is high libido but only for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Why are some people unwilling to admit that they are in competition when dating?if she's physically attracted to you, it won't happen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 12:07 AM |
| 4 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesWhen a woman is truly attracted to a man she unconsciously accepts the risk of getting pumped and dumped. If she fixates on getting you to commit first it probably means there are second ends or she's simply not attracted that much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere.Good looking guys always have options and can find GENUINE sex relatively easily If you can't the problem is your Looks and nothing else, excluding rare cases of real Autism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 11:18 PM |
| 3 | Why are some people unwilling to admit that they are in competition when dating?I want girls to choose me, I don't care about other guys. We are like peacocks, we do not actively compete like lions to win females. It's kinda pointless to view modern dating as a competition imo, especially considering that beauty is mostly objective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesthe logical assumption is that when a person is dating someone they are physically attracted to, it means inside their brain something irrational is happening and there are powerful feelings involved. Being "physically attracted" is not just an abstract label, you know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:16 PM |
| 5 | Why are some people unwilling to admit that they are in competition when dating?Because it doesn't actually feel like a competition. On paper you're right but in practice you meet a girl and her brain irrationally decides if she is attracted to you or not, who cares about other potential mates. Think about peacocks, on paper they are competing with each othee, but in practice they just show off and females choose, it's not really a competition | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:00 PM |
| 5 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesIf her attraction is not enough to overcome those feelings than she's not really into you. I'm not talking about having sex immediately on the first date tho. If sex doesn't happen naturally and smoothly after a few dates it's a giant red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesit's based on the logical assumption that if a woman finds you physically or sexually attractive then she would be fine being intimate with you. Unless she has really low libido, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 09:41 PM |
| 3 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesmen can find other men aesthetically pleasing without feeling sexual attraction. Instead, we usually feel jealousy and envy in this case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesif she's really into you it won't be an issue and she'd be fine having sex early | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 09:33 PM |
| 4 | Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere.I think it's kinda impossible to not take it seriously. When you get rejected deep down you know it happened because the other person didn't find you physically attractive if you get rejected a few times you unconsciously know it happened because of your Looks. At this point it's kinda impossible to shrug it away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 08:06 PM |
| 3 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesThe issue is that if she wants to wait she's probably not sexually attracted to you Btw when men complain about these kind of things it is because women are not being honest, not because they want to force women to do stuff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:39 PM |
| 3 | Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere.approaching girls not only has very low chances of success, on top of that you feel powerful negative feelings every time you don't succeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:30 PM |
| 4 | Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere.I'd say around 5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Just saw some chadlite wearing pajamas sitting near me get cold approached for his number in my uni dining hallChad is simply an internet slang for "Extremely good looking guy" Although on Reddit the term is used half improperly to refer to above average guys | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 07:21 PM |
| 6 | Rate this Chadaround 9/10 facially, nice balance between. masculine and pretty features. He's definitely Chad unless too short | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 07:10 PM |
| 7 | Guys can meet women pretty much anywhere.yeah you can, but she's probably going to be creeped and feel an ick. Do this too many times and eventually you're going to develop issues unless you're good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4A Do you see yourself being able to fall in love/have deep personal relationship with ai in the future?M 20s, I think not. Unless we're talking about an AI robot that looks, moves and talks like a real woman, in this case I think I could develop feelings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:01 PM |
| 2 | In an age where you’re damned if you try to get sexual too quickly and damned if you stay platonic for too long, what’s the best approach?Imo you should try to get sexual kinda quickly, but only with girls who find you physically attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Are young men seen as less desirable than their female counterparts because society tends to equate youth with femeninity?they are less desirable because most guys are not attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 05:37 PM |
| – | CMV Since most men lie about they're sexual success, we dont really feel the issues with dating which we have.Reality is probably worse compared to what statistics show. Surely it's not better, since (some) men lie faking success, no one lies faking unsuccess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 03:18 PM |
| 3 | If women are chad sexual the logical conclusion would be to stop telling women to date average mentbh the real conclusion would be to tell women to only date guys they are physically attracted to. If this excludes bottom 50% of men from dating then so be it meanwhile guys should stop pursuing girls that are not attracted to them and to stop simping. At the same time they should try to Looksmaxx as best they can | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itCosmetic surgery, eugenics, DNA engineering These solutions don't force anyone to do anything. Society has bigger issues, than this to deal with idk, I'd argue that making everyone more happy and fulfilled is a big improvement and something society should strive for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itWhat can be done about this? Women aren't going gto statt fukking men they aren't attracted to. Men (and women) should find a way to become more attractive (plastic surgery, eugenics, DNA engineering). Society should help reaching this goals imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itGood looking guys never struggle to have sex. All those other aspects don't make guys genuinely attractive, even if they are desirable traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itit's not your individual job to solve it But society as a whole should try to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge ityeah, if it's genuine physical attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 09:09 PM |
| – | The idea being pedaled here that good looking men do not struggle is a myth. Women regularly reject attractive men, sometimes for no reason at all.Who cares they still have options. They get rejected twice and then they find other 5 girls simping for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toyou don't actually have to figure out women. Women that are physically attracted to you want to be intimate with you or they straight up want to have sex with you, women that are not physically attracted to you don't want to be intimate with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 03:18 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toI don't know anyone who would marry someone they don't have a basic primal attraction towards. Pure mental attraction = platonic roommates. Probably because they don't tell other people and they try to convince themselves that attraction will eventually grow with time There's plenty of these stories on the deadbedroom sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:42 AM |
| 3 | What are your standards to date guy ?Women on dating and redpilled forums do say that looks somewhat matter (again, not that much in their opinion). I guess they do because after years of constant pressure and complaints from men they eventually had to admit it, albeit in a watered down way. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:38 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toyou still won't find girls genuinely attracted to you, only girls attracted to your status or money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIn fact I don't think that most men are really ugly. Imo most men are actually slightly unattractive or plain looking, but it doesn't make that much difference. Girls are not attracted to plain guys, they are attracted to cute guys or hot guys. your jaw becoming visible doesn't matter if the bone is small and rounded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toYeah but it still sucks. Let's not pretend that things are okay since men can sometimes use leverages to get women, it's fucked up and the reason they had to resort to leverages is even more fucked up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI'd argue that indirectly they do, since they say that most men look unattractive or unremarkable and at the same time they complain that it's hard to find a HVM who commits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itok this is getting weird, let's just call it another discussion where men and women disagree on the definition of "acceptable" and "average". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:14 AM |
| 5 | What are your standards to date guy ?Dude it's 2023. Women on dating forums lie but not to such degrees. Usually women admit that Looks matter, but (in their opinion) not that much and they say personality is more important. It seems like you want to argue so much with the stereotypical bluepilled Becky just to prove that she's wrong and to feel superior. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:10 AM |
| 5 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIt's not on the same level. A sex worker is someone who you pay everytime you want to have sex with, also she's not exclusively for you and at the end of the day she does not want to have sex with you and you know it unconsciously. Conversely, you pay the sex bot only once and then it's exclusively for you and you alone. Also, a machine is something neutral, it doesn't want to have sex with you, but at the same time neither it does not want to not have it (hope it makes sense lol). If the AI is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: most women would choose a physically unattractive neurotypical man over a very physically attractive high functioning autistic manIt might be true, but keep in mind that when people here say AUTISTIC they use it improperly as a way to describe a guy who's shy, introverted, socially awkward or is neurodivergent. A shy, awkward good looking guy will get way more options compared to an unattractive neurotypical guy, and this is the comparison that really matters when we consider most guys out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIn the end you still won’t end up with the sex you want why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge it"you think you're ugly? it's all in your head get real and get over it, accept yourself for the way you look and love yourself otherwise no one will love you back. Stop having these thoughts, it's your attitude that needs to change" The situation is different but the core of the message is similar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itThis is when other things will be required to be more atrtactive such as verey good social skills, having money, etc. Those things can enhance your desirability, but they don't make you genuinely attractive if you are lacking Looks wise. Most guys want genuine relationships and sex, they don't want them to be transactional | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:27 AM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge ityeah, being fat usually shrinks the pool of men that find you attractive. But the nail things is just a delusion of yours though, men don't care about nails. it’s the same men saying that who want female attention without changing anything whatsoever. Wanting female attention is something normal, also you cannot change your hieght and face, which are the most important things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:25 AM |
| 5 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itmost men want to have sex with women that reciprocate attraction and find them sexy, if you have to pay a woman to have UNWANTED sex with you, you'll not feel fulfilled by it. That's why most incels don't go with escorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:13 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used tobecause having an handsome face or being tall is what really makes the difference. Unattractive guys can go to the gym every day and read as many manuals they can, but still most girls won't consider them because they won't find them good looking enough. Conversely, take a weak skinny nerdy guy and give him a sexy face and make him taller... suddenly he has become a hot nerdy guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itThey never get past that point because of all of the other issues that aren’t addressed by surgery…surgery won’t change that. These issues you're talking about eventually fade away if enough girls find you attractive and are willing to interact and have sex with you. Also, let's not forget that plenty of girls get into LTRs and situationships with toxic good looking guys. The key element is that these guys are "good looking", which is the greatest green flag ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itOne rejection has them fucking spiraling. They give up before they even try. As I said in the post, it's not just a few rejections. It's a more systematic situation where you get rejected and on top of that you are never considered attractive by anyone, you don't have options and girls don't see you as a potential partner. You feel like you're invisible and you probably don't even like the way you look in the first place. You unconsciously know you're not good looking and you avoid situations wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI'm not sure about this, usually incels and blackpilled guys are attacked by progressive and feminists people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:49 AM |
| 5 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itAnd that's okay, the issue is that the men that women consider "good enough" are only a small %. many guys are basically excluded from sex and genuine attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:46 AM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itThen your definition is kinda useless and detached from real life. Men that look "acceptable" or "not repulsive" are not considered attractive by women. Men have to look better than "acceptable" to make women sexually interested in them. When I said "fine" I meant it as "cute" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itgood looks are mostly objective on a biological level (a good strong jawline, almond eyes, symmetric face, being full of hairs). The standards won't change even if everyone became good looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:39 AM |
| 5 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itNah, guys want the genuine thing not fake paid sex. It also wouldn't have an impact on women's standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:23 AM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itwhy don't you look into cosmetic surgery? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itBut you have to pay them and sex is transactional, also they don't really care about you. Maybe AI sex bots can create an even better illusion, where men would see them as partners and feel accepted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI'm looking into cosmetic surgery and I don't bother pursuing girls that do not reciprocate physical attraction. However I'm still pissed that the only spaces where I can freely talk about these issues are half toxic blackpilled spaces and that society will gatekeep and judge me negatively if I tried to express my feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:13 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toas always, yeah it probably helps, but not enough to have a meaningful impact for most sexless guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itWell, since most people in the first world already have those basic needs fullfilled I say that it'd be cool if we could take the next step and try to adress the mental issues that plague modern societies. Humans are complex yet simple creatures, you might think that when our basic needs are fulfilled everything is fine and good, but in reality it's not enough. Without being fulfilled on a higher level (friendship, sex) life still sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:04 AM |
| -2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itAs a start, I think that acknowledging that the issue is due to Looks and (lack of) physical attraction would be an improvement for the mental health of those men that get told they are bad people and that should change their toxic attitudes. And overall I think that society acknowledging it would make it easier to find solutions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itGovernment funded plastic surgery, (outside of actual deformities) isn’t going to fix that If plastic surgery became so much advanced that the average joe could look like a model regarldess of his original biological face, then yeah it would work. As you said women can't change what they are sexually attracted to, if we were to recreate the "attractive features" then women will feel a natural attraction exactly like biology wants you to do. As for the rest of your post I get what you're saying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:49 PM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI meant AI sex bots that can talk like humans and you can interact with. I don't know if they'll be enough to compensate lack of real validation, it's something we will discover when they'll be developed. Personally I think that if the AI is extremely advanced and behaves like a real woman the illusion will probably work for many men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:33 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used tohow do you even get lots of sex in your 30s if you were unattractive in your 20s?? Men don't magically become handsome when they turn 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toEverybody in marriage loses attraction in the end of the day, so honestly, who cares. It's about sustainability and stability, not about passion I believe that it shouldn't be like this and this is the reason marriage is declining. What you are describing is the old-school idea of marriage and let's be real, it sucks. Most men nowadays want passion and sex, not stability. Well now you are getting selective: you want them to find a woman AND you want her to be attracted to a guy who remained vi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:23 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itYou're probably the first people here that actually put effort to find practical solutions. I'm a bit skeptical about them, but thanks for the input regardless. For example I don't know if the testosterone and gh thing would work without side effects. The horniness inducing drug is an interesting and provocative idea, but ultimately I think that men want their partners to be genuinely attracted to them. They wouldn't want the attraction to be artificially induced by a drug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itmost incels do have friends though. I don't know what definition you're using, but usually incels are nerdy loser (unattractive) guys, the angry misogynist basement dwellers are a minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toThey're a lot of people you can feel "attraction" to, but are they all a good fit for you in the long run? No, but neither are people that you feel a mental connection to without feeling genuine attraction. Sexual attraction is not something that should be compromised, if it's not there it's unhealthy and kinda disingenuous towards the partner Unless both party are aware and don't find it an issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:07 PM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itincreased access to mental and physical healthcare I appreciate the effort, but I don't think it will make that much difference tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itbecause those negative feelings are natural and the whole situation is outside of our control. It doesn't directly solve the problem but at least it relieves those feelings a bit, because people who have them finally can relate and don't feel judged. It also paves the way towards finding solutions, if society continues to deny the issues it will be more difficult to adress them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:01 PM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI believe that everyone should receive sexual attention naturally and genuinely. If you don't receive it and develop issues is not your fault and society shouldn't judge you negatively for it. Instead it should try to find ways to prevent this from happening in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:55 PM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIt’s why I have a really complicated view of plastic surgery, on the one hand I really dislike the plastic surgery culture of a place like Korea- which seems almost dystopian to me. On the other hand plastic surgery will increase the amount of people able to find love/sex/intimacy Personally I'd focus on the latter part. If cosmetic surgery and changing our appereance in general increase our chances to find love and sex we should accept it and acknowledge it, not demonize it as something superfi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:46 PM |
| 5 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itconsidering how much makind has progressed in the last 200 years I don't find it unreasonable to expect those things to become a reality eventually. AI sex bots are actually coming in the near future, most likely. However, there is the question of whether they will be legalized or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:36 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used tothey got married, but did they really find a partner that is genuinely attracted to them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:32 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toIt's probably true, but don't expect to suddenly meet lots of women that are genuinely attracted to you when you reach the 30 yo treshold, you'll most likely find women that will settle for you without being sexually attracted. Also, good luck not developing mental issues in your 20s if you lack girls' attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge ityour mental fortitude shouldn't be dependent on your desirability to other people but it actually does and it's not something that you can really change tbh. I'd argue that it is true on a purely biological level. I'm not talking about how things like popularity on social medias or how many likes your posts get. I'm talking about basic human interactions, how much people like you and (mostly) how difficult it is to find someone that is attracted to you. these are things that will always have an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:24 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itwhat about the men that are not facially fine? I think they dwarf both categories, wouldn't you agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI don't have an asnwer to this. I say, for the moment, let's just acknowledge the current situation and don't gatekeep people's feelings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itOur actions have a limited effect on these issues, society should instead try to finding solutions in a grander scale. Just like society actually put effort and eventually created a vaccine for Covid, we could have also let the situation unaddressed, let people die and natural selection do its course. But I think that putting effort to find a solution is better, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge ityeah, but not caring and not trying to do anything to fix these issues is not making the situation better. It's difficult to imagine that an ideal solution will be found if we don't try controversial solutions at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:08 PM |
| 7 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itThen why do you gatekeep other people's sexual/dating feelings?? (I don't want to make comparison and argue that X is worse than Y, don't get the wrong idea) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itdoesn't make it less toxic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI guess you could say if the looks weren’t what set you apart, people would then look at other things like personality since surface level attraction would be much higher Not that much, it's Looks that determine if there's attraction and romantic feelings in the first place, these are the steps that many guys currently fail to pass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:58 PM |
| 5 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itok, but usually the issue for most men is that they are not fine in Looks in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:52 PM |
| 0 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itHow would you determine what is fair and reasonable standard of genetic and facial attractiveness? It's not that much difficult, even if it's impossible to determine an objective standard people unconsciously know how conventional attractiveness looks like. You might even develop an AI to determine it. Considering we have developed AI drones that can autonomously decide where to drop a bomb, I think it reasonable to assume that developing an AI that determines what is good looking is not that di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:50 PM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itthis is what I meant when I said that society gatekeeps the issue and want to force people to be positive no matter what. Change attitude, I think that you wouldn't say these things to someone with gender dysphoria or that was abused as a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itcosmetic surgery and dna engineering/eugenics. Also, let people decide if they want to live or not, and develop AI sex bots for sexless people who don't want to struggle in the dating market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itwhat about improving cosmetic surgery and make it more accessible for everyone. and what about legalizing euthanasia for people tired of life, or developing sex bots for ugly sexless men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itno, it's based on my personal observation both irl and online. Online especially, if you lurk on incels and looksmaxxing forums you'll see that most guys don't complain about friednship, they complain about sex and attraction. Many do have a social life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:37 PM |
| 9 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itthey can't, for the most part. You can't change what arouses you and what tingles your nervous system. If women like tall men with good looking faces that's it, let's acknowledge it and let's try to become taller and more handsome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:34 PM |
| -4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI don't want women to sacrifice themselves, just accept and don't deny your attraction and don't hide behind the "personality matters more than looks" thing. It's not an issue that women should solve themselves, it's something society as a whole should adress imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:31 PM |
| – | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itthey don't hate you, they don't like your Looks and wouldn't feel comfortable having sex or any form of intimacy with you. If you feel it sucks so much that you want the entire world to burn it's not for me to judge it, but at least acknowledge the situation for the way it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itimagine if we said this to people who don't feel comfortable with their gender and want to change it... "you want to become a woman? get real and get over it, accept yourself as how you're born" Do you see how much toxic it is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itonce altering DNA is normal, changing for aesthetics is going to be a next step. I hope it will. However I believe it's actually more difficult to achieve than simply make people immune to illness. That's also why imo society needs to acknowledge the issue and actively try to deal with it. If we wait passively a solution will probably pop up eventually, but why wait decades and abandon people to their mental struggles? even if we did, at least let's acknowledge sexual and dating issues without o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIf science could make us all good looking (imagine the scene from captain america movie lol) then dating issue would mostly disappear and it would become a lot easier to find both casual sex and LTR. This solution does not force anyone to do anything and it solves the issue directly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIt's actually the core of the loneliness. Even today it seems that most guys do have friends and don't struggle that much with friendship overall. It's actually regarding dating and sex where men feel lonely and unwanted. The brutal reality is that even if you have good friends and a loving family you may still develop mental issues because you struggle to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 09:02 PM |
| – | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI don't believe that society actively hates you. It's just that women don't find you attractive and don't care about you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itI don't know if it will be enough to care, but I think that in time more and more will realize that they can only settle for men they don't find attractive or sharing attractive men. Eventually some will realize that if men became more attractive this wouldn't be an issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:28 PM |
| -7 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itIf kids are unplugged from tech and forced (and yes, many would need to be forced) to go outside, play with other kids, play sports, participate in clubs etc. from early grade school age, they learn how to socialize and interact with everyone (regardless of gender) before their hormones even kick in. And then after all that, many guys would still be rejected or feel invisible because they wouldn't be attractive enough in girl's eyes. What you propose has some merits, but ultimately it doesn't ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge ityou cannot determine how you look like (for the most part). If scientific progress would advance to the point you could decide how to look like, everyone would benefit. alternatively, society could give people "alternative" ways to deal with these issues, developing sex bots or legalizing euthanasia for example | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:21 PM |
| 3 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itThere are theoretical or controversial coercion-free solutions, but if society doesn't commit to them the situation won't change. One of these solutions would be genetic engineering Think about it, if people could become more attractive everyone would benefit from it and mental health would improve everywhere. Men would be able to have sex more easily and women would find a suitable partner more easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:12 PM |
| 4 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itMost guy in their 20s are not in a relationship and definetly do not have regulare sex. Most people over 30 overall are in a relatonship but from my pov many do not enjoy it and there's resentment, I don't think many men in a relationship have regular sex and even if they do I wonder, is it genuine or more like duty sex? You need to be the one sending signals, making approaches Talking to girls and joking with them is often enough, if girls finds you physically attractive they will give signal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itbut your mental health DO care, and it's not just about being virgin it's actually deeper | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:03 PM |
| 6 | Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge itthe alternative would be society openly acknowledging the issue and actually trying to fix it. How? improving cosmetic surgery and making it more economically accessible is a possible way, eugenics and dna engineering another. There are also more controversial or theoretical (possible) solutions. If you want I can write my own personal list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women would be best suited in a society where women who the ones approaching men for relationships.He doesn't think it unless he's delusional. What does this have to do with my previous comment btw? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a feminist woman?The original question is already a theoretical situation, it's usless that you accuse me of delusion | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 06:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women would be best suited in a society where women who the ones approaching men for relationships.I’m not sure why this drive is absent some males, maybe their neurotic personality overshadows any motivation they would have to approach women When no one finds you attractive and women don't show interest or reject you eventually you'll most likely develop some kind of image issue and you'll feel that it's not wirth it because "you're not enough" and you don't want to get hurt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:00 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women would be best suited in a society where women who the ones approaching men for relationships.Society is already kinda ideal for women, dating wise. They can freely approach good looking guys without being harshly judged, or they can simply show interest/signals if they fear rejection and it still works, same for OLD. At the same time they have lots of "beta" guys that simp for them and they can choose one whenever they want to settle The reason it's not perfectly ideal is because there are too few good looking guys and many women will have to settle for a man they are not attracted to, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Would you date a feminist woman?We won't even have this option you proposed. Lol. Yes, but if somehow this option suddenly popped up then I'm sure most blackpilled and redpilled men would go for it despite being against their beliefs | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 05:43 PM |
| 16 | Yes, muscles will get you laid.A handsome face is clearly superior in any possible way. Although I'd argue that a strong body is a better sexual attractor than height, since height alone doesn't generate sexual attraction. But at the same time let's not forget that ultimately it's the skeletal frame that makes a body look strong, more than muscles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 08:55 PM |
| -1 | I think you need some element of gender segregation if you want a “sexually conservative” societyI get what you're saying but at the same time school is the first place where good looking guys advertise themselves and monopolize girls' attention, if we forced separate gendered schools then good looking guys would lose some of their "power" because they couldn't meet so many girls everyday like they do now. Also, let me tell you that many guys finish high school as kissless virgins, since they can't find even 1 girl interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a feminist woman?most feminist women don't actually hate men. Reality is not that much black and white | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 08:15 PM |
| 6 | Would you date a feminist woman?she won't hate you if she's genuinely physically/sexually attracted to you | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 08:07 PM |
| 1 | I think you need some element of gender segregation if you want a “sexually conservative” societyTrue, that's also why banning OLD alone wouldn't have a big impact on dating. If we wanted to make dating more conservative we would also need to have gender separate schools and workplaces. We should also close places where good looking men can advertise themselves (especially night clubs) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:42 PM |
| 14 | Would you date a feminist woman?Lol at people who said No. If a cute feminist girl found you genuinenly attractive you wouldn't be able to resist. Unless you have better options, but most likely you don't | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 07:21 PM |
| 2 | It's not that personality doesn't matter.I guess it kinda matters for LTR after honeymoon phase but still secondary to physical attraction. As for dating it basically doesn't matter unless it's extremely bad, but realistically if a girl is into you it's really hard to fuck it up | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/09/23 01:14 PM |
| 2 | What do u guys think of r/trueratemeBody Dysmorphic Disorder is an umbrella term, this is what I learned from asking questions on the dedicated sub. Originally it meant that you distort the way you see yourself (in the mirror or in pics) and that you focus too much on issues that are not actually there (like, maybe you have a nose that is slightly big and you see it as huge and deformed). However the term now include people that focus too much on their Looks (negatively) and have issues because they don't like their appearance and… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/09/23 12:17 PM |
| 3 | A unique glimpse into the attraction Chad getshe's just a tall normie tbh, you can see he has a recessed face from the way he smiles like a donkey | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/09/23 11:57 AM |
| 1 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveI think that physical attraction in women triggers a romantical interest towards the guy, that might be enhanced or diminished by his behavior. For those girls that are high libido physical attraction probably translates directly into a sexual attraction, which is why handsome men on OLD can easily find casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:07 PM |
| – | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?I wasn't referring to this post but in general to the overall situation of men's global complains about dating issues. this post is kinda useless statistically amd it doesn't prove or disprove anything. I was just curious to ask this question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:01 PM |
| – | CMV If you meet the looks threshold off a Women, having more game/personality is more important than having more looks.then explain to me why it's much easier for good looking guys to make girls fall in love and to find casual sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 02:45 PM |
| 1 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveWomen feel attraction towards guys that they find physically attractive. Is it enough to be love at first sight? No it's not But still, physical attraction is crucial because without it there's no interest in getting to know the other person on an intimate level | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 02:42 PM |
| 1 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveI know a few good looking guys an I've seen how much it is different for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 02:39 PM |
| 0 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractivewhat's the problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 02:32 PM |
| 1 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractivehow much attraction was there in the first place? barely enough to date or a lot I say this because my friends that are good looking almost never get ghosted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Thats how you guys look like when you're arguing with someone disproving your delusionswhat are these delusions you're talking about? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 02:18 PM |
| 8 | "Looks doesn't matter, confidence and personality do."are you joking?? hang out with close female friends and ask them ro rate guys As for men, we can clearly judge someone's looks almost instantly | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Good Looks will become even more important in the coming futureI'm talking about people 18-35 mostly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?I get what you're saying but if people all around the world share similar anecdotes it probably means something... then there's OLD that serves as a big explicit proof and mainstream media that shows many evidences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:12 PM |
| 0 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveit's probably happening what women say here when they talk about personality and chemistry. But still, the more she finds you physically attractive the more she won't lose interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:01 PM |
| -15 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveNah if she finds you physically attractive is impossible she feels nothing, she'll give you a chance most likely. Then she might be turned off by your behaviour but most likely she won't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 01:59 PM |
| 4 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractivedoesn't change the fact that women are not attracted to men they find unattractive Even handsome men on OLD match with 50% of women, not 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Share what body matches your weight threshold. Then post your face threshold. Post influencers or public figures or stock photos or similar only. Don’t post a normal person who doesn’t want to be shared.the guys from Big Bang Theory are examples of average men imo. They are plain looking (6/10) or slightly unattractive (5/10), if they weren't famous they'dbe invisible to girls | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?Well if it was the opposite picture, you would say: finally, we have the confirmation from women for what we always believed! To have a valid picture you'd have to interview random women and force them to reply, if women are free to reply or ignore the question (like with this post) it doesn't have much statistical value Alternatively, you could look at science and see that romantic partners are severely overvalued in how good they look to the partner who is in love with them Yeah but it's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 11:54 AM |
| 8 | "Looks doesn't matter, confidence and personality do."Most girls know which guy they find physically attractive in a matter of seconds and if she doesn't feel this type of attraction she'll reject you most likely | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 11:40 AM |
| 2 | What would you consider to be "normal sexual thoughts and ideas" in men?I don't know why that's the case but it is what it is. It happens because if you don't receive attention and interest from girls while seeing that your good looking friends do then you'll unconsciously start to feel you have no chance (mostly rightfully imo) and that it's not worth it For example I knew I wasn't attractive and I was not that interested in girls until one day a girl told me she wanted to study together and for the first time I thought I was desired | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 11:36 AM |
| 1 | never forgetWe have to all hold ourselves accountable to higher standards than base instincts. Then let's close this subreddit, every incel and pill related space since sex and intimacy are just base instincts and we should transcend to find validation in other aspects of life as non Chads | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Good Looks will become even more important in the coming futureelaborate lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:58 AM |
| 2 | Good Looks will become even more important in the coming futureI think that women in the past didn't have enough time, resources and safety to consider Looks important | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Good Looks will become even more important in the coming futureThe average for men is being plain looking or slightly unattractive (non sexually attractive to most women), for women is being okay looking (sexually attractive to most men) If you want to use numbers, average for men is between 5 and 6, for women is between 6 and 7 being a 7 is the treshold where most people will consider you pretty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?Maybe there are lots of women who who'd reply NO but they didn't want to write it and admit it Besides, many comments seem to suggest that women are talking about a conventionally good looking guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:44 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areit's not distributed normally and apparently individual women finds less than 10% of men okay-looking or above (more or less) Since thier tastes mostly overlap with each other I find it reasonable that 70+% of men can be considered unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:29 AM |
| 1 | The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand.I'm bla**pilled I know that men don't fit a normal distribution. I thought it reasonable to say that 5% are conventionally attractive. If the number is even smaller than it's extremely brutal for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 10:06 AM |
| 2 | never forgetit doesn't apply to what she's saying, she's stating a natural feeling that she feels in her brain. Besides, women shouldn't sacrifice themselves to make incels and sexless men happy | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 09:57 AM |
| 1 | The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand.I don't know you but I think you are underestimating attractive men Let's assume that only 5% of men are conventionally attractive (1 out of 20). 5% of 3M is 150k, let's say thay due to your individual tastes you are attracted only to half of them, that's 75k. Now let's add some guys that are not conventionally good looking but you still find them attractive and let's round it up to 80k. it's 2.66% of total pool (1 out of 38) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 03:15 AM |
| 0 | In your wildest dreams what is the "perfect" relationshipwhat's wrong with liking situationships? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 03:10 AM |
| 0 | CMV If you meet the looks threshold off a Women, having more game/personality is more important than having more looks.Nah more Looks are still better if you reach the threshold and stop there it means she finds you fine enough to date but she won't feel a strong sexual attraction to you, she won't be into you. The more you go beyond the threshold the more she is gonna feel sexual attraction and lust after you, and halo effect will also make her interested in whatever you do or say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 03:02 AM |
| 2 | never forgetwhy should she feel shame? | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/09/23 02:45 AM |
| -3 | In your wildest dreams what is the "perfect" relationshipeternal situationship with a girl that lusts after you | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 08:12 PM |
| 1 | cringe ig editGuys I know that women havd it better in dating overall but don't attack and gatekeep people about their insecurities Even if someone isn't even that much ugly and only wants to be attractive to get more validation and pretty privilege you shouldn't gatekeep, regardless of whether he's a guy or a girl | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 07:39 PM |
| 28 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonI'd suggest not taking tiktok trends as your sole source of information Actually I think it's one of the places where women are willing to talk about this controversial stuff without feeling judgement. Same thing with OLD, if only good looking men can get casual sex easily it's a huge indicator of how women work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Brutal blackpills in a mainstream subredditwe should focus on blackpilling average women imo Btw I think society will need to adress blackpill directly when there will be AI sex bots, or alternatively if plastic surgery becomes super mainstream for men | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 02:42 PM |
| 2 | The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand.And how rare it is to meet a man you'd consider sexually attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:39 PM |
| 5 | The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand.It's not enough, you can have an insatiable appetite but only for certain people, while ignoring others. What matters is how many people you're sexually attracted to, for men it's a lot, for women only a few | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:36 PM |
| – | Let's be honest. Dating for men is an incessantly painful numbers gameI know loads of short women who date short men Ok, but it doesn't mean that those guys have options, most likely for most of them it was one of the few times they manage to get a date. Btw I'm in my 20s and in my experience guys under 5'7 are chronically single and sexless, girls sometimes joke about their heights (not in their presence) if you arent bitter Good luck with this, if you're born short or ugly people will point it out and you can't really expect most people to not be bothered by i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:31 PM |
| 9 | You guys are lost causesIf it's over it's because we're unattractive, not because we believe Chad has superpowers btw I agree that many guys here see reality in black and white (Chads/sub5) and focus too much on niche situations | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:50 PM |
| 8 | The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand.Men will respond with “they’re horny but just for Ch4D” which perfectly proves my point - that their libido is contingent on being roused by a top tier man is a prime example of how much hornier men are, when they are risking their jobs and families for some cr4cked out bar sk33zer or a one off with the 0verweight secretary/maid. It does not prove your point, Men are horny for lots of women, while women are narrowly horny for a few men The imbalance in the dating market is NOT due to the intensi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Maybe our view of marriage is outdated. It shouldn't be seen as a "forever" thingI think you can still do those things without being married Besides, relationships should revolve around mutual attraction, not about sharing assets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:38 PM |
| 5 | 'women like assholes'because attractive men can get away with anything, occasionally. Also, men used in Chadfishing experiments are probably more attractive than you. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:33 PM |
| 1 | 'women like assholes'Abusive is different than being rude imo. Also, it probably happens when they are in a situationhip with the girl, I don't think most acted abusively from the beginning | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:29 PM |
| 3 | 'women like assholes'As I said before you have to act selfish and distant (not everytime), women will describe you as an asshole if you do while still being attracted to you Imo openly being rude doesn't work outside of specific circumstances. If you find a woman that has a big humiliation fetish it might work but why risk it? From what I've seen, good looking guys tease women and unironically make them laugh, but at the same time they act like they're distant and would never commit. usually the girl in front of the… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:23 PM |
| 1 | 'women like assholes'Nah dude, even Chads can't really get away with anything. If you treat women like shit and act as an autistic most get turned off | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:15 PM |
| 6 | 'women like assholes'Men can't get away with anything, even if they're handsome. Often people here talk in black and white but reality is more a greyscale. Are you happy now? Having said all that you can still find women who'll be into you if you act rude AND if you're attractive as you say, but don't expect most women to let it slip | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 01:11 PM |
| 5 | 'women like assholes'no dude this is ridiculus, Chadlites are not so much different than Chads, their dating experiences are similar | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 12:59 PM |
| 3 | 'women like assholes'Be direct, ask for dates or pics without being needy. Talk to them and wait for them to simp for you and don't simp back Or wait for them to make the first move I think you're just a High Tier Normie, which is good you still were lucky but not as much as a Chadlite | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 12:56 PM |
| 3 | 'women like assholes'how much attractive are you?? I think you should at least be Chadlite level to get away with instant rudeness btw you shouldn't be rude imo, just be direct and try to act like you're full of other options without saying it explicitly | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 12:41 PM |
| 7 | Brutal blackpills in a mainstream subredditWhy do reddit mods always remove post about lookism, they can't be bothered to challenge their views and fragile egos | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 12:36 PM |
| 1 | 'women like assholes'I've never used snap and I can't say about the dynamics there, but usually girls do chat with men that they don't find attractive. It happens a lot on OLD | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 12:32 PM |
| 6 | 'women like assholes'They don't like that type of assholeness. They like when a guy they find attractive acts distant and selfish. But they need to find you attractive in the first place otherwise it doesn't work | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/09/23 12:21 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: Males, do you experience the "ick"? It so - what? If not, why not?-she says that sex is not that important -she's extremely dumb -she's fixated on expensive things -she's extremely fat or unattractive -she talks too much about previous sexual partners (I don't even care that much about n-count but please don't flex it, men don't wanna know unless they ask you) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:07 PM |
| – | Let's be honest. Dating for men is an incessantly painful numbers gameIf you're 5'5" you can somewhat compensate with energy, wit, style and class. There are plenty of 5'2" women. Recessed chin is a non-issue Please tell me you're joking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 11:58 AM |
| 0 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they arewell it's still something, guys struggle to find options in the first place. As for older women I'm not entirely sure but I think that they still have more options than most guys on OLD Also in general, regardless of age, wouldn't you agree that is far more easy to find a LTR as a woman than as a man? women at least can start by filtering men that show interest in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 11:33 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Most red pilled posters on here are not red pilled. They are trying to use red pill for blue pill goals they’ll never achieveMost guys here seek genuine attraction which is definetly something that exists and can be similar to love. Some are delusional and expect that it's achievable through money, status or confidence. Others know that it's only achievable through raw physical attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 11:25 AM |
| 8 | Maybe our view of marriage is outdated. It shouldn't be seen as a "forever" thingI agree, I find it funny that lots of people in 21st century still believe that love and sexual attraction are above circumstances, they're clearly not. Btw it'd probably be better if marriages disappeared altogether, people needing an abstract label (husband, wife) to be loyal and faithful it's a red flag if you think about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 10:47 AM |
| 0 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areNah, if a average woman uses OLD or knows how to give signals IRL she would find someone they like relatively easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?ok, and would you agree that a man's face is more important than his body for physical attraction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.Everything I said earlier is unrealistic because ugly and short people probably want kids eventually due to biological reason But I still argue that if everyone was aware of the sexual dynamics and the mental issues linked to it, it'd better if ugly and short people decided to not reproduce | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?What made previous partners hotter but less good looking? Were they taller and bigger but with a less pretty face? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:09 AM |
| – | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.I'd argue that if everyone was good looking people would have more children, even if it wasn't enough to make population stable it would decline to the point capitalism would collapse and then, most likely, people would be willing to have more children to the point the population becomes stable A Chadtopia is theoretically stable imo, the issue is that I don't think it's actually possible to remove ugly genes without eugenics or DNA editing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:04 AM |
| 6 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.The reason women don't do it in poor countries and didn't do it in the past was because society didn't allow them to be promiscuous and women needed men for protection and financial stability Remove these constraints, give women protection and money and you'll see that they'll go chasing Chads everywhere, since being attracted to good looking men is what they truly desire biologically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 03:56 AM |
| – | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.No, I'm describing a society where everyone is good looking because natural selection made ugly genes disappear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 03:48 AM |
| – | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.as depressing as it sounds it seems to be true. Unless eventually when women are free to select everyone becomes good looking and has lots of sex, making population rise back again. But I don't think that's the case... (I'm against subjugation of women, in case y'all wondering) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.Unironically it'd be better if short and unattractive people of both genders didn't reproduce and decided to have sex only for pleasure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 03:24 AM |
| 5 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.I kinda agree with the post, although there are too many factors and I don't think that the future is already set in stone. For example, it seems that our liberal culture is actually charming for young people across the globe and I think it's unlikely that people will stop seeking to pursue it. However I don't agree with you saying that women have created this situation. They're actually simply following their inner biological desires now that sexuality is free and rising children is very expens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?and would you do the Looks switching thing if you could? (assuming the partner agrees) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?I agree overall, although I think it's a big red flag if a woman is still in contact with a previous partner that she was extremely attracted to. Btw I was curious to ask this question to see if women openly admitted it, but it seems that those who'd answer NO have refrained from answering | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:43 AM |
| 1 | How would you rate your looks?How can beauty be purely subjective if there are several features that are known to be desirable and others that are known to be undesirable????? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:14 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?I don't believe it, or rather, I may believe it but I think thay deep down they know the truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI'd say that most guys out there don't look better than them. That's why I'd call them average and NOT below average. More specifically I'd say that Sheldon and Raj are plain looking, Leonard a bit better (but not enough to be cute) and Howard is a bit unattractive (but not ugly) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:02 AM |
| 9 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI know what they say but what I wrote is actually what most of them would be fine with This also applies to bluepilled, blackpilled and incels guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:36 AM |
| 12 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areGuys' actual standards: don't be fat and please be attracted to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:31 AM |
| 5 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areI guess that OP's view it's not women that are picky, it's most men that are too unattractive. Imo it's an acceptable pov but ultimately you're just analyzing the same problem from a different angle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:28 AM |
| 0 | How would you rate your looks?yeah, strong jawlines, protruding cheekbones and almond eyes with minimal eyelid exposure are all subjective features | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 01:19 AM |
| 4 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areThis is what many incels and blackpilled guys already say, but usually people don't agree and get angry at them lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:53 AM |
| 15 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areGetting dates for a man is easy if you take generally good care of your appearance. Do you realize than many guys are still not attractive even if they're healthy and fit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areImagine the main cast of Big Bang Theory, would you consider them average or below? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?well he could always try to dye his hair lol Btw, in my opinion beauty is not about having the right colors, it's much more linked to having the right facial features | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:42 AM |
| 4 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areHowever many women are attracted to men for reasons other than looks such as their status, wealth, ability to provide I think that OP is talking about genuine sexual/physical attraction. Money and resources don't make men genuinely attractive to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:39 AM |
| 17 | Most men think they are more physically attractive than they areIRL any man who is actually attractive will have absolutely no problem with female attention very true, it's just that you have to be lucky to be one its the below average guys that struggle. Average struggle too. Averages guy (majority of guys) look plain or slightly unattractive imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:35 AM |
| 0 | How would you rate your looks?Beauty is mostly objective and thanks to mainstream medias people should have an unconscious understanding of it. People know what is considered pretty and what is plain (neither cute, neither unattractive) It's useless to use a relative scaling imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:31 AM |
| 3 | How would you rate your looks?It's useless to say "average" in a space with too many different people. Write instead "plain looking" which is more objective and precise. Also, imo 6/10 is what you should call plain looking. 5/10 should be mildly unattractive. 7/10 should be pretty/cute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?the other guy had the ''right'' elements to be The Handsomest Boy. I don't get it, isn't it a contradiction with what you said earlier? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?I admit it's probably a weird question to read as a woman , but I was too curious to not ask Considering how many pill guys talk about looksmaxxing and cosmetic surgery I don't find it weird to separate a person from his physical features | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:06 AM |
| – | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualitymost guys want access to casual sex and/or want to be full of options to choose from for commitment. Is it really difficult to deduce it considering what guys say and what they like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?And would you do the Looks switching thing? You may also create a Frankenstein and switch D from your first bf and face from your third lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is your current boyfriend/husband the best looking partner you've ever had sex with?Couldn't you be more objective and separate physical attraction from global attraction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?You overestimate men's Looks. Where I live most guys are not fat (I live in Europe) and the dynamics are the same, only a few good looking guys are given attention/interest. A plain looking face makes you "invisible" to most women, even worse if you're unattractive. As I said on another post, imagine they guys from Big Bang Theory (which I consider plain or slightly unattractive) in a social environment, women wouldn't be interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:55 PM |
| 5 | Women with a lot of male friends are a instant 'red flag'Ok my bad, but if you are a special friend for them they most likely had a crush on you in the past, maybe some still do. Your best friend surely had/has feelings for you, unless you're not special for him (but it's unlikely if you consider him your best friend). If you're cute what I've said is almost 100% true, might not be true if you're unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:49 PM |
| 1 | What do you think are the factors leading to so many men’s lack of romantic success *besides* hypergamy?From what I've seen good looking guys glow up with their personalities already in high school, most don't have crappy personalities and can easily talk to women. They are as shallow as plain looking and unattractive guys with the difference that they can actually make shallow choices, they do cheat more but it's just because they actually get chances to do it. I don't have skincare routine btw, I've occasionally used my mom's age cream | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:38 PM |
| 3 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?Very few people are ugly when lean and healthy If we're talking about women I agree, but for men it's not exactly true. Focus on the faces of average men in the streets, most don't have pretty eyes, don't have a chiseled face structure with bones protruding and pushing the skin, most don't have a compact midface and most have weak-ish jawlines or recessed chins. However I don't want to exaggerate and say that majority is objectively ugly, imo most guys have plain looking or slightly unattractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:24 PM |
| – | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Plain looking women are still considered sexually attractive by most guys. Btw for those girls I think that the best pragmatic advices would be to get on Tinder and simply select males like products in mall, or IRL to give signals to guys they find attractive or find excuses to approach and talk to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:10 PM |
| 2 | The Fact That the “Golden Ratio” Was Able to Predict Hollywood Sex Symbols…Conventional good looks are mostly objective What is subjective is the tastes for certain individual features and overall tastes on an abstract prettyboy vs masculine scale. Some women like Aragorn more, others prefer Legolas. Some are really into Superman, others prefer Batman or Aquaman. Men too have their preferences, although we usually have more varied tastes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:01 PM |
| 6 | Women with a lot of male friends are a instant 'red flag'I think that most of them are attracted to you and are secretly hoping that you'll develop feelings over time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:30 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?I don't think they'll be genuinely be interested in you, they'll be attracted to your Money adn Status as a western men. They won't find you sexy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:09 PM |
| 2 | If men want to even the dating field they should take better care of their appearancephysical attractiveness is mostly based on the Face (and not being fat), problem is you can't really change the shape and size of the bones inside your face after you've developed. The only way to make significant changes would be cosmetic surgery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:03 PM |
| 2 | What do you think are the factors leading to so many men’s lack of romantic success *besides* hypergamy?If you look like Brad Pitt a lot of women will show interest and approach you regardless of your personality. Even If you had a "bad personality" some of them will not lose interest. Besides, you can always try to fix personality at any age, as for Looks you can't really change them that much (unless you try cosmetic surgery) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:58 PM |
| 0 | If men want to even the dating field they should take better care of their appearancenot exactly true, Beauty is mostly objective. If all men looked like Brad Pitt all men would be considered attractive. The problem is that there isn't any easy way to become good looking for most men, the best option would be cosmetic surgery but it can't make miracles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?The kicker is they probably developed their good personality based on early life positive reinforcement based on looks. Yeah it's pretty obvious and it sucks because in the end even your personality is shaped by your Looks. However I'm sure that you can do fine with Looks alone even without extroversion. Most women will not be turned off if they find you very attractive. Also, if you're attractive being yourself will make women see you as witty and charming even if you're not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:40 AM |
| 6 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?It's not really a numbers game if most women find them attractive. Even if they "only" manage to sleep with 1 out of 4 (25%) it's a lot and something that is only achievable with good looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:33 AM |
| 7 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?It's biological, we can't help it Most men find self worth in other things too, however lacking sex and validation will always leave an hole in your soul, genuine sex is probably the best and easiest way to find self worth for every man. Other kinds of self worth can't compare imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?I think that you can just have good Looks and be average in the other aspects | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:24 AM |
| 39 | Why do you personally think some men get so much access to sex, while other men do not?Hot dudes are hot because they have a good looking face though. An attractive physique is like the cherry on the top, the pretty face is the whole cake under it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:19 AM |
| 2 | Men do not reward loyaltyLoyalty is one of those things that are appreciated but they don't increase sexual attraction, I think this is true for both men and women. But it's not true to say that it's not rewarded, the reward is the strengthening of the emotional and romantic connection. However don't expect your partner to never lose attraction just because you were there for them, attraction is irrational and amoral, it doesn't care. both husbands and wives might find another person more attractive and they might cheat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 02:11 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?because paid sex it's transactional, there's no mutual attraction. The escort only agrees to have sex because you pay and she is not enjoying it. Having casual sex is also without love but it's still as genuine as sex with your gf/bf because there's mutual genuine attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 01:06 AM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Being hot is not about how you dress, it's about having the right physical and facial features. Although I admit that dressing well could enhance your Looks a little bit, but not if you're too unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Never-married single moms, even if they are good moms, took a very selfish decisionYou mean avoiding most men…which is what we’re doing more and more…yet men complain that we avoid them, while also saying it’s up to us to avoid men They complain because you avoid most men due to lack of physical attraction but instead of admittinig it directly you beat around the bush and gaslight. I don't actually believe that average joes would become sexually attractive to women if they proved that they would be caring fathers, at best they become a "husband material" to settle for (with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 12:47 AM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?if girls really approach you regularly then you're not plain looking, you look good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 12:23 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?If we are talking about cosmetic surgery then I agree with you. Although it's not an easy route | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 12:21 AM |
| 0 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?I kinda agree with the overall statement but some people don't really give a shit about social acceptance and if you actively do things to seek it it's an issue tbh. Just focus on finding good friends and stay close to them, this is the kind of social acceptance that you (generic you) need imo. What I'm talking about is different because I'm searching for girls that might be genuinely interested in me and how to increase the chances. I'm not seeking social acceptance from girls, I'm seeking sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 12:18 AM |
| 7 | Harshest truths that are very hard to swallow about datingIncels do have some interesting points tho Society should not dismiss their opinions and ideas just because some of those guys are toxic and misogynistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 12:10 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?you're projecting. There are lots of countries where young women would settle for an average western man with a job. They are easier to get than western women But it's not genuine attraction and thus I think it's not what most guys are after | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 12:01 AM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?well from a theoretical pov, plastic surgery is surely a definitive solution for dating issues if you manage to become good looking post op. As for other suggestions, they feel like variations of what I already wrote in the post and they don't appear to be definitive solutions. I mean yeah they do increase the chances but only a little. Also, you cannot force yourself to invest most of your time in certain activities if there's not a genuine interest that pushes you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:57 PM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?But it is worth it to go trough those trials and errors if you're not interested in finding a style? putting mental health and self-respect aside, people would probably think you're soulless and desperate to get social acceptance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:48 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?regularly excercising (just to be in shape not to become bigger) and sometimes I try to expand my social circle but it seems I never find women that show explicit interest. I don't actively search for them, I simply talk to girls when I have the chance and then wait for them to show interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:42 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?They don't increase your chances that much. Obviously some people are going to be lucky statistically, but I'm actually asking if people here have ideas that might work more effectively | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:35 PM |
| 3 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?paid sex is not real sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:30 PM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?hard work doesn't make you much more attractive. I'm asking how to increase the chances to find genuine attraction. I know that money get you laid, but it's not the type of sex that guys want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:29 PM |
| 7 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Nah, if you have a plain face or worse, an unattractive face, doing those things at best put you at the top of the "settling material" bracket. Do you get what I'm saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:23 PM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?would you prefer having paid sex with an hot escort or having genuine sex with a plain girl that you don't find that much attractive? I'd prefer genuine sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:20 PM |
| 13 | What do you think are the factors leading to so many men’s lack of romantic success *besides* hypergamy?Problem is that you cannot really compensate lack of physical attraction. Yeah you might get a partner with money and satus, but when you're being intimate or having sex she would have to force herself to do it, the attraction won't be genuine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:18 PM |
| 7 | Harshest truths that are very hard to swallow about datingYeah, because I've seen average height guys with attractive faces get plenty of interest. I've never seen unattractive tall guys getting much, both in quantity and quality. Girls might be interested in tall unattractive guys sometimes, but it's not to the same kind of interest that good looking guys get, they only feel butterflies if they like your face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:15 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Personally speaking it's not somthing I'd do unless I was genuinely interested in it, still the counter arguments I made are valid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:07 PM |
| 7 | What do you think are the factors leading to so many men’s lack of romantic success *besides* hypergamy?It shouldn't count as hard work, they don't do anything to deserve it It's luck and it's not something that you can really compensate for, if you are lacking. It's useless to talk about hard work if you can't actually win a woman's genuine interest, because the only way to get it is being lucky with DNA The only possible exception to this rule would be cosmetic surgery, since you have to pay for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Trust me most guys don't accept it, they think that if a girl doesn't find you ugly you always have a chance At the same time they say that it's the girl that "chooses" and everything revolves around her interest for you. Such hypocrisy lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenI believe that there's a middle ground, which is those rare occasions where a girl is attracted to a plain looking guy, she likes him but not enough to let mistakes slip and the guy needs to be careful to not fuck up. But most times, it's how you said. Mostly black and white and everything revolves around whether her brain finds you attractive or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:50 PM |
| 6 | Harshest truths that are very hard to swallow about datingThe attractiveness of you face (Looks) is the thing that matters most and that make you stand out most For men it is the biggest limiting factor in regards to number of options and access to casual sex. It's also the only thing that can make girls "feel butterflies" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:38 PM |
| 2 | Being Hung, doesn’t help you keep a long term relationship.I think that women give little importance to D size if they don't like your face, at best you're some sort of walking dildo for the most promiscuous ones I think that it is the male equivalent of being a girl with a beautiful body and an ugly face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:33 PM |
| 5 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?I think that most guys want to find girls that are genuinely interested in them, not their money Btw I met some rich guys and girls (20-25) were not attracted to their money, they still lacked options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Unironically an advice that probably works effectively but it's not something that average guy could do tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:19 PM |
| 3 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Kinda off topic but I'd actually have sex with a girl if she finds me attractive even if I'm not her first ideal choice, if her ex from 2 years before was hotter I don't care that much if she still finds me attractive However I don't think I'd do a LTR with such a girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:15 PM |
| 7 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?and how are you supposed to dress well with an edgy badboy style if you're not fond of it in the first place? Is it wise to do it? Also, what about guys that are not tall and look kinda weak (on top of being plain looking), wouldn't they look ridiculous and try hard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:10 PM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Try being inside the body of a plain looking or unattractive guy, I guess I'm not saying that they don't increase the chances, they do but not enough to matter. They really don't gurantee anything, you increase your chances to win the lottery with more tickets, but you won't win most likely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenI live in a big city in europe. I've listened to lots of stories, also about people outside my high school Every guy agrees with the general dynamics that you can only have sex with girls if they're interested in you, and when it happens 99% of the time the girl is the one more interested and actually wants commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:59 PM |
| – | If tinder existed 20 years ago ,most of us wouldn't exist today.I think most of these guys are ok with being settled for (maybe out of ignorance, not realizing it). I think that only a few men could accept it if they got told explicitely, also if you end up in a deadbedroom it's hell and you'll probably break up. As for people that will choose the sleeping, idk but I think that the number will increase in the next decades, because more people are becoming aware of the general dynamics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:54 PM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?I don't think you can become the best without a big passion that pushes you to do ever better. Besides if you pick the "wrong" skill, like gaming or playing chess, it doesn't work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:50 PM |
| – | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?what if you befriend strangers but not to the point that they actually actively ask you to hang out with them? And what if you manage to hang out with them, but there aren't many single girls and no one seems interested to introduce you to other female friends? Sorry for all this hypotetic conditions, but these are actually real life struggles for most guys. From what I've seen, everything goes smoothly only for good looking guys, people don't seem much interested in socializing with plain looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:47 PM |
| – | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?and how would a girl bumping into you make her interested? It could have a bit of sense if you already knew that the girl is interested, but that's actually what I'm asking. How do you increase your chances to find these girls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:32 PM |
| 3 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Depends, does he use tactical soap regularly and tactical mirror to talk to himself and build a comedian charisma? I'm joking btw, and I like your advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenyeah, a lot of high schoolgirls find FWB, more on summer vacation rather than in school tbh. But it still counts. Imo in this cases the girls usually want commitment from these guys but have to settle to just be FWB or for a situationship (which is the same thing but girls like to fool themselves) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 09:18 PM |
| 30 | What do you think are the factors leading to so many men’s lack of romantic success *besides* hypergamy?Good looking guys don't put much work either, they simply look good and that's it. At best they excercise regularly or practice sports, but so do a lot of unattractive guys that lack options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 08:50 PM |
| 3 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenI don't believe it, where I live most girls end up having more than one boyfriend/FWB during high school Only a few are so much unattractive that they don't manage to find one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 08:31 PM |
| 4 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenThat's not true, you're wrong because you confuse mainstream beauty standards with men's global standards. Every man likes conventional beauty standards, but men overall also appreciate women that don't fit into them. A girl doesn't need to be conventionally attractive to be considered cute or pretty by many men. Also, girls with plain faces can work on their bodies to become more sexually desirable. Most men are not attractive, while most women are okay looking and don't have much issues findin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 08:27 PM |
| – | If tinder existed 20 years ago ,most of us wouldn't exist today.Good insight but the title is off. You should have written somethnig like "if women don't find you attractive, it's better to accept it and stay single" Btw I believe that most "undesirable" men can't really accept to stay single and if they won't end up being settled for, they'll choose to sleep forever rather than accept reality and go on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 08:03 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: Has anything you have read or discussed here actually changed your mind? If so, what was it?Not true. Patriarchy helped average men getting married in the previous century, women settle more easily if there's a socioeconomic gap between men and women. This kind of settling is really sad and society should never again push for it though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 06:24 PM |
| 3 | Can a 6’3 6/10, gym maxed, tatted, light skinned Hispanic dude with a buzz cut get Easy lays with landwhales and Low tier Beckie’s in the club/bars?depends on the attractiveness of the Face. If he's too unattractive then no | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/09/23 05:27 PM |
| – | The dating game has changedYeah but in general degrees have macroscopic effects on the overall phenomenon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Don't mistake a man's lack of options for better moralsMost men can have romantic feelings for their gf/wife even if they'd sleep with other hot women (if they had the chance) That's why we say men are polygamous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 05:21 PM |
| 1 | It's not the end of the world, it's the end of us.They need to be attracted to you genuinely duh. Many guys rarely find women genuinely interested in them. If you want to use numbers than I'd say that cute guys (7/10) find them kinda easily, while plain looking guys (6/10) and unattractive guys (5/10) struggle to find them Obviously these numbers don't exist in Nature, it's a way to approximately quantify physical attractiveness | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/09/23 05:14 PM |
| 1 | More women have not had sex in the past year compared to men.It's not enough to disprove the narrative. Redpilled and Blackpilled guys both talk about seeing women lusting after good looking guys and ignoring many plain looking guys (majority of guys). OLD shows us that plain looking guys rarely get matches and even when they do, it's rare to see women that are into them. Also, if you ask women many straight up say that "most men are not attractive" and they say that they know that many guys would sleep with them, but they're not interested and don't see … | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/09/23 05:07 PM |
| -2 | Never-married single moms, even if they are good moms, took a very selfish decisionI think you missed the point, OP is saying that women mostly have the power to not make it happen (birth pill, not having sex without condom, abortion, avoiding certain men) and yet it happens a lot. Thus he's calling them selfish because ultimately they have most control over the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 04:34 PM |
| – | The dating game has changedIt wasn't. A lot less women were independent back then and there still were the leftover cultural effects of patriarchy. Average men had more Money and Status than women due to cultural factors and in general women settled a lot easier. Giving priority to genuine (physical) attraction took some decades to become the norm in modern societies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 04:12 PM |
| 2 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?and you believe them?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 03:57 PM |
| 2 | It's not the end of the world, it's the end of us.women that sleep with you because they are genuinely attracted to you | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/09/23 03:56 PM |
| 5 | Women admitting the crushing reality for most men in dating, would not change anythingWe "simply" need to find a way to increase our physical attractiveness. It's controversial but not sketchy, we'd not actively force women to do anything we'd simply adjust to match their tastes. Maybe it's a bit depressing but the alternative is lots of sexless men and lots of divorces. Theoretically speaking there are also other less controversial "solutions", one of them could be Virtual Dating, imagine a Matrix like videogame where people can choose a (good looking) avatar and meet online. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 02:31 AM |
| 9 | Women admitting the crushing reality for most men in dating, would not change anythingPushing women to be more honest is not a way to change their tastes, since you can't change them. I believe it is still super important because if society at large agrees with red/blackpill than it will strive to find solutions, that can benefit both genders. Ultimately, men need to become more attractive, this is what these ideologies lead to. How to achieve this? Personally I'd invest on improving cosmetic surgery and DNA engineering | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityI kinda agree but I don't think they do it on purpose, they are built this way because it probably was the most advantageous thing evolutionary speaking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 11:19 PM |
| 5 | What are some arguments you think blackpillers should stop using in debates with those who disagree with the blackpill?Everything that revolves around shaming women. It's not even Blackpill actually, it's just that some blackpillers are still in denial and feel the need to attack women on a personal level, which is just stupid and only contributes to stain the ideology. I'm not saying that you should be complacent either. Imo the best attitude is simply to point out behaviours and politely disagree without insults. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 11:02 PM |
| 4 | It's not the end of the world, it's the end of us.Depends what you mean for "making the cut". He's not ugly, he'll probably reproduce. But who cares, as a sub7 he's not slaying genuine pussy and paid one doesn't really count. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityThat's a big lie and you know it. Actors and male models are chosen for their faces, not their bodies Also, the popular guys in schools and universities are those with good looking faces, not the gym bros | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 10:42 PM |
| 3 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Yeah, I'm sorry for them and they have my spiritual support | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 10:39 PM |
| 1 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Yeah I know, they have instead okay looking faces by default + makeup to enhance themselves Also, a lot of "unattractive features" are not so much unattractive on a female face. On a male face they kill the sex appeal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 10:18 PM |
| 7 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Most men could instead french kiss most women (if they were consensual) and feel some degree of pleasure. Now you see why I said that most women have okay-ish faces? Men don't have this luxury.. most of us are stuck with hard-to-like faces | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 3 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Imagine a speed dating scenario, do you really think you could french kiss most men out there passionately without cringing and experiencing ick? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 10:00 PM |
| 5 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?As a man it takes one big flaw, which usually means being too short or having an ugly face, and you're screwed. Also if you have a bunch of smaller flaws, you're still screwed. And on top of that, you don't have control over your height and barely any control on your face, which are the biggest factors for genuine attraction. Evolution thank you very much, good f. job👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 09:56 PM |
| 5 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Most women have okay-ish faces though, no need to deny it. That's also a big reason why men are attracted to lots of different women. If y'all had ugly faces we wouldn't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 09:16 PM |
| 1 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Meaning there are tons of women (not people in general) in the 4-6 range If we remove weight out of the equation, like OP is asking, then the "range with most women" becomes 6-7 because women are usually not ugly facially wise Btw what's the correct term for "range with most X" in statistics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 09:11 PM |
| -3 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?it's rare for a woman to have an ugly face. Most women have at least a plain looking face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 08:55 PM |
| 4 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?No, depends on the face and body features. Imo it depends mostly on the face but I think other guys might disagree. However it's rare for a girl to have an ugly face, so I'd say that realistically most would be at least 6/10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityGonna agree to disagree about sleeping with the random hot girl scenario I worded it badly in the previous comment. What I meant is that if an unknown hot woman came before us asking for sex, it would be a bit too much and we would feel out of the comfort zone. Many would still do it though because it doesn't take that much to turn on a man but still it would feel akward in the beginning. Porn is different because you choose when you watch it and what you watch. As for the rest of your comment, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 08:41 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason for why people need a 'hoe phase'?Why the desire for quantity over quality or why go out for burgers all the time when you could have steak at home? The Looks standard for casual sex are higher and casual sex might be the only way to have an experience with a good looking guys, for many average girls. Thus I believe that it's not a matter of quantity vs quality, it's more like some women are searching for quality (good looking guys) in a questionable way. Do you really believe that most of them would continue to sleep around if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:57 PM |
| 4 | For incels who've given up, how do you cope knowing you'll never have a romantic relationship?Agree, if things are smooth in bed and sexual chemistry is on point then you're good. Although in the end it all revolves around physical attraction, it's obvious that women cheat less on Chads compared to average guys. I think that a guy in a LTR should try to maximize chemistry. If you find obstacles it means that you're not compatible. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityEven good-looking bodies that are nice to look at don’t make me want to sleep with the person if I don’t know anything about them or the setting isn’t right. Most pill guys understand this, but it still means little. A lot of men would be uncomfortable (initially) to sleep with a woman they know nothing about, even if she was hot. Is this enough to say "looks don't matter that much" or "men are Demisexuals"? No, it's not, we recognize that looks will always be the priority and the reason we deve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:33 PM |
| 0 | How to get motivation as an unattractive maleHaving friends works... a bit | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Women don't want ugly/unattractive dudes to get surgeries cause they don't want to get tricked into fucking a former ugly dude who is now attractive.I think that this is true when they're young. If they're old I believe that they wouldn't mind because there aren't alternatives for most of them, better to settle with a looksmaxxed partner that looks good than a plain or unattractive guy | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityyou can grow to be physically attracted to nearly anyone Not true in the slightest, proximity effect exists but it's not this much powerful. Also I think you are confusing between general attraction and physical attraction, the latter is raw and basic and I don't think you can really grow attracted to a naked body if you weren't in the first place. Besides, being realistic, if the attraction is not instantaneous it should be a red flag for a hypotetic relationship. Women on the Deadbedroom sub c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityBut for most who fall somewhere in the middle, they will appeal to some people and not others Those "some people" are really few if you're plain looking, particularly so in your 20s where one should supposedly to get most action. Women are almost always full of options, even if they're plain looking. Hot girls might get 10000 options and plain looking just 100, but still it's a hundred. I know that the quality of most options is subpar but still.. In the end the problem is the same for both gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityAlso, you can grow to be intensely physically attracted to men who don’t initially catch your eye with the right chemistry/bond. I don't think this is possible. Good chemistry and lust require physical attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:30 PM |
| 9 | About the blackpill.Reminder that Blackpill also say that is important to not be too much neurodivergent and that being extroverted helps. Which is probably what you call "game" Also being realistic, it's super hard to become extroverted and be appreciated socially if you're unattractive in the first place. It's like swimming upstream vs if you're good looking you'll be swimming downstream and smoothly. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityI believe men have their own misunderstandings (the whole validation thing for example) but overall they are a lot more honest and know better what they are after | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityIt might be true but still I think we should continue to debate in spaces such as this to try and find common grounds. It's never a good thing to have two groups that don't communicate and hide behind their own beliefs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityEven doctors lie to postpartum women. What are you trying to say?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityit’s also not true that women only go for the very top men. I'm not saying this. What I'm trying to say it's that genuine attractions only exist if physical attraction is involved and that it seems a few good looking men are getting most of this genuine attraction, since the chances a girl might find a plain looking guy attractive are very slim. As a consequence some of this "not attractive guys" will end up sexless or they will struggle a lot to find a woman interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityYeah because some of them instinctively seek a man to settle, genuine attraction only works when physical attraction is involved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualitySexually speaking I agree with you. You can still get women with resources though, but you'll never win their hearts and pussies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityYeah i know it sounds absurd and yet Unironically, fisherman know how to catch fish while fishes don't know because they act instinctively. Since men try to be the fishermen of the dating world (failing lol), it's not absurd to imagine that some of them focus so much on statistical patterns and overanalize behaviuors to the point they (statistically) know women more than themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityFat, unattractive men with a much hotter, younger wife is standard fare. It's a niche, it's not that common since those men need to be rich. but women need to select the beta, stable, good provider. Honestly I don't see society pushing for this standard anymore, if anything hot men are "fetishized" more than ever in mainstream media. I think that what you are referring to it's the actual observation of most adult couples since there are only a few attractive men out there. Most men are beta pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:09 PM |
| 0 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityAppreciate the comment, imo it seems you understand yourself better than many other women but still, you ended up dropping massive red flags that kinda confirms some of the suspicions I adressed in the post. The only reason i am not in a DB with my dumb ass husband is because i grit my teeth and do the deed on a healthy regular basis This feels weird to read, if you wanna do an experiment write this stuff in the Deadbedroom sub and let's see what other women think about it, and mention the Henry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 04:58 PM |
| 0 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityI believe that if everyone was more aware eventually someone will find some sort of solution. Mankind has done incredible things, I'm hopeful that it will solve dating and sexual issues soon. Atm the closest "solution" seems to be AI powered sex bots, although it's more a cheat than a solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:45 AM |
| 0 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityAfaik the issues behind dead bedrooms are deeper than this are connected to lack of attraction. Novelty doesn't reignites raw attraction, I think nothing actually can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityI think yours is the right mindset. I find it weird that some women don't accept this side of themself and then end up writing stories about how they can't have sex with their loving husband but an coworker friends turns them on. In comparison more men seem to understand a lot better how they "work" and what are the dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:45 AM |
| 2 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityok I agree but still I think that there are huge patterns that show us that physical attraction is always king | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:39 AM |
| 3 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualitywhy do you people keep bringing up deadbedrooms lol. deadbedrooms dont have anything to do with this. if there was no physical attraction the bedroom would never have been alive in the first place. if it changed over time Because some times people marry partners that they don't find physically attractive (they say it explicitely sometimes) or barely attractive, at the beginning they push themselves to have sex and intimacy and things happen, but then it crumbles in the long term. Read the sub if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityAnd many of them probably believe in their own lies, I hope that pill ideologies becoming more mainstream will make everyone more aware, which is a good thing overall imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityStories of Deadbedrooms often come from people 30+ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:20 AM |
| 7 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityIdk your age, but I'm in my mid 20s and the most popular were always the most attractive ones. Obviously most of them were also kinda extroverted and inhibited, it becomes natural when people put you on a pedestal and you can speak your mind more freely, wouldn't you say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityThis is only really a problem if she has had casual sex with these men, though. I believe that it's always a problem even if she didn't. It just takes a generic circumstance, a "Chad" shows interest and she suddenly feels attracted to them, because it's biological she can't help it. If it's enough to destroy the relationship it depends, many times it will imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityAsk yourself objectively would I as a woman choose to date me. If the answer is no ask yourself is it within your power to FIX or show progress towards. I can't say objectively because I don't like my own face. I think I am plain looking, maybe slightly unattractive. My body is okay, I'm lean but my overall frame is small and height is around 5'9. I'm saying this because I think that I am one of many plain looking guys out there. What are realistically my options? Face and Height are almost ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:00 AM |
| 8 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityMany guys don't receieve attention/signals from girls, what should they do? Let me tell you that shooting your shots continuously until it works is mentally shattering for most guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 09:14 PM |
| 4 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityOverall I agree but in their 20s I'd describe the bar as "I want to feel butterflies" which is less intense than lust but is still enough to exclude most plain looking guys imo. In their 30s if they want to settle down the bar becomes "I don't need butterflies, but please don't be unattractive", which now includes most plain looking guys if they have resources. Obviously it's not enough to avoid a dead bedroom, which is the biggest reason why I think women don't understand themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityYeah but they describe this bar as being really low, however at the same time some say "most men are unattractive" and everyone recognizes that both high school and OLD a few guys get most of the attention. Do you see the suspicious double standard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 08:23 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youI don't like your metaphor because Looks have a huge impact on the quality of sex and relationship, you talk about them like they were just a superficial thing that doesn't change the quality of the product, when actually they do. Imo the metaphor works better if Looks are just one of the ingredients but this ingredient is considered universally tasty, so when you put it you the cake improves in quality and it exhalts the other ingredients. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:41 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youOr you can simply put Chocolate (metaphor for Looks) inside the bowl and everyone will eat it because everyone likes Chocolate, even without other ingredients. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:22 PM |
| – | CMV : Mating for genetic strength and rearing the child as a tribe is the most natural human state and we’re returning to itI think that in the past men more likely forced women to mate with them or simply life was harsh and people needed to survive, thus most women exchanged sex for protection without any kind of lust. We are turning back to our more natural mating state and this may actually be a good thing We are not returning to it, now people don't need to survive, hunt and protect themseleves from the environment. I'd agree if we were survivors in a post apocalyptic world, but we're not. Besides, this current… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?holy sh1t you're one of them. Listen, women that don't find you attractive don't do it on purpose, if you need to blame something or someone blame your Looks, your DNA or Evolution since it didn't create all men equal. Their choice is their perogative but our reaction is our perogative. Their choice makes something good happen (sex, love). Your reaction only spreads hate and toxicity. I'm not a saint because I too talk about half-toxic topics (blackpill) but at least the focus of my complains ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:08 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youPersonality can make women lose interest in you if there was some attraction in the first place. But it cannot generate attraction without Looks and the more they like your Looks the less they are going to lose interest even if act akward or feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:01 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youYou need to type while walking on eggs shells and overly specify everything otherwise they're going to find a way to reply without adressing the point. Then they proceed to call guys here neurodivergent for the way we talk lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:57 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youWhich I still consider better than nothing or a relationship without passion, which is what most unattractive guys eventually get Also, mutual physical attraction generates emotional connection, the opposite doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Kinda agree but still it's kinda easy to see when a girl is really into someone. I know some good looking guys, many times they recieved explicite signals and everyone noticed. The amount of times I've seen this happening for plain looking guys is ridiculously low and usually the guys are still in LTRs with these girls, do they really love their partners? or do they simply stay because they unconsciously know that they lack other options, since they don't receive signals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I meanAs I told you your "solution" already exists and in some countries it's legal. And yet there are incels/sexless everywhere, it's because transactional paid sex is not actually what incels are after | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I agree but non attractive guys still shouldn't grow resentful towards women. I know that some guys become hatecels that can't help it but blame the rest of the world, however let's not give the message that it's a normal thing to do. It's irrational and counter-productive, since it makes it difficult to communicate and demonizes all other (non hateful) incels | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:18 PM |
| 6 | Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I meanNothing, because the problem is lack of genuine attraction (validation) not sex itself. Also, you can already hire escorts easily in most western countries and yet self proclaimed incels and sexless pill-guys are everywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 01:23 PM |
| 2 | Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I meanI think that being rejected or ignored multiple times and being invisible to girls overall inevitably change perception of yourself, regardless of your family and how you were raised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?No it's not. Plain women can get plenty of attention and casual sex, plain men can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 12:41 PM |
| 1 | If monogamy is unnatural why is there a 1:1 sex ratio?I've read some answers and while they make sense at explaining things they all fail to answer the true question which is 'WHY, wouldn't it be much better to have a ratio of 1:2 since most men didn't reproduce in the first place?" OP I'm gonna be honest I don't have an answer but what I can tell you is that Nature and Evolution usually operate in ways that often rewards the species as a whole but not individuals (it's basically a Tiranny). Evolution could have made us all monogamous Chads with a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 12:24 PM |
| 3 | Do you think that in the age of equality, we should push for a 50/50 dating culture?Yeah societies should push (not forcefully) and send the message that 50/50 is the right thing to do if you are REALLY attracted to your partner (or alternatively the one with highest income pays a bit more). The result should be more genuine relationships. women who want to settle without attraction should instead go for consensual sugar dating tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?imo most "objectively" plain looking guys rarely or never receive attention from girls. I wanted to see if my observation matches with the opinions of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?How rare it is that the guy they're interested in is not conventionally attractive but a plain looking guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 10:17 AM |
| -1 | Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I meanThey would simp less only if women gave them genuine attention and flirted with more of them. However for this to happen more men need to become physically attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 10:08 AM |
| 14 | How Blackpill destroyed my Libido within a year [story time]Lack of signals from girls is also a big factor | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I don't get what confuses you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 10:32 PM |
| 6 | Women’s delusional self images have gotten out of control, I constantly encounter women who act like they are above me who I wouldn’t fuck with my worst enemies dickWhy do you care? It's annoying but it's not like they would be suddenly attracted to average guys if they were honest with themselves. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Rare blackpill WChald | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:49 PM |
| 10 | How Blackpill destroyed my Libido within a year [story time]It's similar for me. I can only tell you that at least libido returns high when you recieve some degree of attention from girls. But it's still very brutal. Overall this situation is one of those things that make me feel trapped in a wrong body. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:47 PM |
| 5 | Women being stringed along by high value males(chad) is not their fault.Do you really believe that eliminating OLD would make things change? Just think about the way our societies are structured. Attractive guys meets lots of women IRL, there are lots of ways to do so if you "abuse" pretty privilege. Also keep in mind that women using OLD are a minority. The root of the issue is that women are attracted to good looking guys so much that they ignore the red flags, they can't help it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 09:37 PM |
| – | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialYou cannot make woman want more sex Theoretically speaking I think you could, many women stay single or are stuck inside dead bedrooms because they don't find men attractive enough. If we could make every man more attractive then they'd be willing to have sex with them. Keep in mind that women's sexuality is mostly reactive and they need to be turned on, unlike men. Staying in the theoretical realm, there is also the option to alter the gender ratio and make women more numerous than men, to give… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 09:05 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Many of the guys who are actively participating in these flings are not exceptionally good-looking. Most are very average-looking Don't agree, you have to be considered attractive to make a girl feel "butterflies". Usually average men are not considered attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 08:48 PM |
| 4 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.Irrational means you cannot control it and that it just happens to appear. But of course there are patterns to it, it's not like it's something completely random. women dig a show of power, competence and confidence Yeah but only if they like your looks first, otherwise they don't care much about how you behave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: what does the average man and woman look like?Ironic since when the movie came out there were lots of complains about the choice to cast Adam Driver since he wasn't attractive enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ9fdwUZDco | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I mean invisible in a sexual and romantic sense. Although women definetly tend to avoid the company of men they find ugly and try to avoid speaking with them, I've been told so by more than one girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 08:34 PM |
| 22 | Is it true that women's standards are higher for casual sex than for a relationship?Based on empirical evidence Looks standards are higher for casual sex, for most girls. Most guys need to court and get into some sort of relationship BEFORE having sex, while attractive guys get sex before and then decide whether to commit or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Given the status of the dating market it is completely acceptable for men to lie/use immoral means when it comes to datingWishful thinking lol, in order to use these kinds of tactics you need either to be somehwat attractive or to have some kind of leverage. Most guys don't have leverage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?what types of signals? Btw, were those guy conventioanlly attractive? (not attractive to you, I mean in general) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Assuming you're a guy... you should have commented in the appropriate section | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Not standing out makes you invisible to most women imo. The more you are unattractive, the harder it is to find someone that will find you attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Yeah it's true, but not in the genuine way Looks do. Looks make you genuinely attractive, is there something else with the same capability?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Ok but I believe that if a guy in the western world is unremarkable in his own country, he's most likely unremarkable everywhere else. Same way as we have conventionally attractive people, I think that there are also conventionally plain looking or unattractive people (statistically speaking). The only big exception are those country where average height is extremely tall like Netherlands. But if we consider faces, I don't think there are countries where there is an anomalous presence of people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I gave you my definition of average in the post, it's when someone "objectively" doesn't stand out (looks wise) for the majority of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I mean let's be real, most men would be background characters if they were in a movie. This is different from being an NPC though, I was referring to their physical appereance not their whole personality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Did he have a glow up in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?the question is generic, it doesn't focus on a particular environment or situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?were those men plain looking to most girls, were they invisibile (sexually speaking)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I agree, but how common it is that the person of their interest is actually conventionally attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I don't think they do this in their 20s, they are looking for commitment from attractive guys usually, it doesn't seem to me that they go and actively search for "husband material" guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?how rare it is that they do it for an average unremarkable guy that most girls would consider invisible? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I get you but I believe that women have an idea about what men are remarkable and who is unremarkable, outside their own personal tastes. I wanted to know how rare/common it is that they end up attracted to one of them to the point they show signals or pursue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Yeah we do, but can you please formulate an answer to the post based on your opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:25 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?From a theoretical pov it can be assumed that unremarkable guys in a relationship were actually settled for by their gfs and that there isn't all that much sexual attraction. I'm not taking things to the extreme and argue that it is always the case, but still it seems to be a common situation. Also I'd like to remind you that statistics exist that seem to point out that more than 60% of guys in their 20s are single. It's weird that you tell me all this stuff without answering the original questi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Yeah but I am still curious. Btw I don't have a completely black and white view, I know that girls that develop crushes for unattractive guys exist, it's just that it's extremely rare imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I believe that due to mainstream media everyone kinda has the same concepts of a plain looking guy or an unremarkable one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:09 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I meant things like smiling back, staring at someone for a few seconds, finding excuses to start a conversation. Also taking the initiative by messaging and planning things to do toghether to show interest. This are the things I'd consider as giving signals and pursuing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?The question applies to the social life of girls as a whole, not specific situations. Or maybe girls only pursue or give signals when they're looking for casual sex and don't do it when they're looking for something more serious. Is this what you are implying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?I've written what I mean for Average. I think it's a fair definition tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do girls pursue or give signals only to good looking guys?Ok but answer the question, please Women care about many different things aside from looks I'm sure you do but at the same time Looks seems to be the decisive factor to enstabilish a romantic/sexual relationship, especially during your 20s. Also being hot seems to be the only way to partecipate in casual sex as a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:54 PM |
| – | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menI don't think it's a fetish thing. Money alone don't make women aroused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:46 PM |
| 3 | Hyperawareness of the current state of relationships and dating is bad for an individual's mental health (especially men)Why are these truths never positive why are they always negative? Probably because they wouldn't be hidden if they were positive, I guess. Btw some of this dating hidden truths can also be seen as positive from certain povs. For example blackpill states that if you're conventionally attractive then you get plenty of attention and that you have huge room for errors, because no matter how much you screw up some women can't help but be attracted to you. Problem is that for you to see the glass half… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:04 PM |
| 4 | If i don’t lose my virginity or get a girlfriend by 30, I’ll consider suicide.I'm sorry, try to not think about it I guess... If you're being so drastic why don't you consider cosmetic surgery first. Also if you simply want a girlfriend you could aways become a beta buck | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.They don't do it because they need to keep their bodycount low. They do it because only a few men make them sexually interested. It's absurd the lenghts some people go to deny women's sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone else disconnected from their own physical appereance?becuz it's not just the parents that matter, I don't remember exactly but genes mix up when sperm and egg fuse and the result is kinda unpredictable. Still, good looking parents produce more good looking offspring statistically. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 02:43 PM |
| 5 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.It's the opposite, most women are looking for someone that they like to commit, men instead would mostly pursue casual sex if they could. If a young women says they're not interested in a relationship it's because they're not attracted to the other person. Even if they like being promiscuous they wouldn't pass the chance to have a LTR or a situationship with someone they consider Good looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone else disconnected from their own physical appereance?Ever noticed that brothers and sisters of attractive people are not always attractive themselves? | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Hyperawareness of the current state of relationships and dating is bad for an individual's mental health (especially men)As far as I know you cannot control them to such degree. You can decide to picture an elephant inside your head but you cannot directly control your thoughts about something that you are really emotionally invested into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 02:24 PM |
| -11 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.Thanks for your Input. But sorry I can't completely believe you ahah. I think that you cannot actually become truly attracted to "no opinion guys", at best they are the guys you might settle for. I don't believe you have ever pursued one. As you said you are either attracted or not, I'm sure you don't find no opinion guys ugly but they still fall into the "not attracted" category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 02:19 PM |
| 5 | Hyperawareness of the current state of relationships and dating is bad for an individual's mental health (especially men)When life doesn't give you something that you really desire (and that other people around you have) it's impossible that (some) people don't become hyperaware, because men are meant to analize and to adapt. Furthermore hidden truths is an old trope that has always attracted people, just think about how many movies use it. For better or worse analizing dating patterns and women's behaviour does feel like uncovering hidden truths, that's why it attracts people. But what good does this knowledge … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 02:08 PM |
| -1 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.Honestly I think that most people act like this, since attraction is irrational. Men have an extra step because they can find you fuckable even if you look plain to them. We also have this "rating ability" that can make us produce a number/10 in a few seconds. I find it weird that most women say they can't do it, maybe you lie about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 12:57 PM |
| 5 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.You are delusional. First of all the concept of "looksmatch" is man made and doesn't exist in nature, you may define what is a 6/10 man and what is a 6/10 woman but there's no guarantee that they would be attracted to each other, it'd be cool if they were though. Also, you fail to realize that women's inflated ego don't change their sexual tastes (maybe a little bit but not significantly). If a delusional woman doesn't find you sexually attractive now she still wouldn't even if she had a realist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 12:44 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: what does the average man and woman look like?I'd say that Adam sandler, Jack Black, Adam Driver and the guys from big bang theory are good examples of average men. They all look unremarkable, plain looking or a bit unattractive to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 11:53 AM |
| 11 | I Wish to but i can't return to bluepillI think you're overestimating bluepill. Most bluepilled people are actually in denial, they act passive aggressively and still have issues. Being bluepilled is best when you're good looking, however ironically most good looking guys are Redpilled. Probably because they interact with lots of women and eventually the bluepill shatters. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 11:32 AM |
| – | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menThe world does not consist of ugly vs good-looking like neurodivergent people think it does. It kinda does, people judge each other's physical appereance before anything else. If they like how you look they see you as something else, otherwise they don't. Also, there's a clear difference between a direct attraction towards someone who you like physically and an indirect attraction towards someone who has resources (which I called desirability). Like us, women are sexually turned on by pretty fac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 10:38 AM |
| 1 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialThose men who women aren't "biologically built" to like, if they get to know them, socially, often become more attractive in their eyes. Even if it worked there'd be no lust, no passion. Ugly people can definetly become more "interesting" building a charming personality but I think that it won't matter sexually. A woman may like you but she's basically attracted to the idea of you rather than YOU as a whole package. Men get mentally shattered when their partners say they're not attracted to them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 09:56 AM |
| 1 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialThat's why I believe relationship and intimacy between two ugly people always sucks. You're not really into each other, you're settling because you lack alternatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone else disconnected from their own physical appereance?it's toxic when you are pressured to do it, if it happens spontaneously it's okay. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 02:22 AM |
| -1 | Do you think that the "Mating Crisis" will actually lead to anything significant?women actually get to have a mate choice again Again?? do You seriously think that women were free to choose somewhere in the past? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 02:02 AM |
| 2 | Do you think that the "Mating Crisis" will actually lead to anything significant?I'm optimistic about this, if scientific progress ever finds a way to make people good looking effectively it will be something so important that societies will have to make it accessible to everyone, there would be too much inequality and instability otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 01:52 AM |
| 3 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialIn the past, the sexual marketplace was more similar to how it is now It wasn't, Women couldn't choose while now they can. Men in the past fought like lions, today we show off like peacocks and women choose us. It's intrasexual vs intersexual selection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone else disconnected from their own physical appereance?I'd say I'm kinda average tbh, maybe below average but not that much. Definetly not sub5 (although I was one as a kid) It's still not enough for me | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone else disconnected from their own physical appereance?Why they shouldn't be accepted though? Forcing someone to accept things like this feels like toxic positivity tbh. someone being particularly short it's an objective fact, if he accpets it good for him, but if he has issues about it I think it's toxic to pressure him into accepting himself at all costs. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone else disconnected from their own physical appereance?I rationally know how I look like at the same time I feel that this body is just a body (that I don't like) and that it is not actually ME. It's something that I have rather than I am. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 01:24 AM |
| 1 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialAfter that I'd have to see photos of each man to determine what he'd need to have a better appeal, see if he can fit into a specific niche to expand his options. Trying to be the most generic possible, the average sexless guy has a plain looking or unattractive face. His jaw is probably small or weak, his nose is big in comparison to the rest of his features and his eyes looks tired. Try to be the most generic possible with a possible advice using this infos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 01:16 AM |
| 2 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialYeah makes sense, but it's not like you're much more attractive to those girls, it's just more likely that they give you a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 11:03 PM |
| 0 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialAnd yet when you have a crush on a guy it happens because you find him physically attractive. I agree that women are emotionally driven but it has little meaning in dating if only good looks can trigger those emotions. At the end of the day you're as much visual as men, you only react differently probably because you have a different sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 10:57 PM |
| 1 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialSexless men , this is a symptom of many causes , not a single factor, every sexless man has a reason for that and he needs to work on it accordingly. And yet every single one of them wouldn't be sexless if they suddenly became good looking. You just need to be good looking to have options, one one side it's cool, on the other it feels depressing because you can't control how attractive you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Why any man would still want to date a women with such high risk off divorce etc... i don’t understand. Because men want to believe that their partner is genuinely attracted to them and has sex with them because they feel lust, since they're not paying directly for sex they delude themsleves into believing the attraction is genuine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialI believe that almost everything TRP teaches makes you desirable in a transactional way through resources, it doesn't make you genuinely attractive to women and it doesn't make them to lust for you. Imo the only TRP advice that makes sense for genuine attraction is to get in shape, which actually makes a big difference only if you're good looking under the fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Apathy towards dating and sex, is it a reasonable strategy or will it lead to an unhappy lonley life?I'd say that this is the best attitude that most men should have, because let's be real most of us are too sensible to rejection and we crumble when girls openly reject us. More precisely, I'd say that we should pursue a little bit (just to be sure) but not to the point where we get rejected, because it'd worsen our mental health. For the few of us that are unfazed by rejection I'd say that it's probably better to be a bit more direct and "aggressive". However I'm sorry to say that in case you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 10:15 PM |
| -3 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialThat's a completely different situation. I'm talking about something that could make women attracted to the average joe as much as they would to Brad Pitt. Testosterone also changes the structure of your body so it obviously can't be a solution, also I'm not even sure it works if someone is attracted to men. Imagine something that a wife would take to make herself sexually attracted to her settled husband to avoid a dead bedroom, without side effects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 09:59 PM |
| -2 | the root of modern dating issues is biological, not socialDo libido enhancers actually exist? and do they make you "artificially" attracted to people you are not naturally? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menI get what you're saying. As far as I've seen most dating topics end up having this types of double standards unfortunately. The cold truth is that men want women to lust for them but many can't accept that it is not happening to them, thus they advocate that women should lower their standards in the false hope that it would work. If you could ask the collectiveness of men to make a single choice and live with its consequences, I bet that men would choose to stop asking women to lower their stan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menMoney and Status can still get you laid if you're unattractive, however not in the same genuine way Looks do. Also, you're underestimating how much good looks can make a girl stay in a toxic relationship. Women in their 20s value passion and chemistry a lot, if the attractive broken guy decides to commit they accept the deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 08:36 PM |
| 6 | Do you think that the "Mating Crisis" will actually lead to anything significant?I believe that eventually society will start to recognize lookism, pretty privilege and will acknowledge and validate the experiences of Incels and Femcels in a similar fashion it acknowledged Transgender people not so long ago. The turning point will most likely be the marketing of AI girlfriends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 08:29 PM |
| 4 | Men have leverage, but it is not always as obvious... and a dark prediction for the futurebeing good looking is not a leverage, it makes others sexually attracted to you directly without second ends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:56 PM |
| 6 | Why is it socially acceptable for women to artificially enhance their beauty but not men?If most women were not turned off by short height they wouldn't do it, however we can't force people to change their biological tastes Furthermore, everyone that shames LL seems to be doing it under the premise that is invasive and dangerous. I bet that if there was a different "natural" way to become taller people wouldn't bat an eye, in the same way people don't care about nose jobs on deformed people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menThen what word should I have used? imagine a man becomes rich and women start giving him attention even if they're not attracted to him, I'd say that the man has become more desirable as a husband. What word would you use instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Is there any point dating as a physically neutral guy?What if she's attracted to you in the same way she would be for a HTN (she finds you cute or pretty but not smoking hot), wouldn't it be enough? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Is there any point dating as a physically neutral guy?I gotta say, this obsession also has to stop. I don't think it can magically disappear, neither you can by force of will. We were born and raised inside a free sexual culture that shows us that casual sex is a reality (for some men) and it's cool. Combine this with our innate sex drive and you get why guys cannot and don't want to stop seeking casual sex. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 06:25 PM |
| 2 | BlackpillIsn't it Looks and Physical attraction? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Is there any point dating as a physically neutral guy?Exceptions do exist, there are more than 1 billion people in the first world, it's impossible that exceptions don't exist. However it wasn't my intention to give bluepilled vibes: those exceptions are still going to be inferior to the average option a Chad has, but still is not impossible to find a girl genuinely attracted to you if you're plain looking. If she lusts for you as much as she would for Chad.. well consider yourself an exception among exceptions | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:50 PM |
| 1 | BlackpillI adressed the root of the problem directly, why should it be a cope?? | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Singleness and how this sub forgets why people should dateYeah... I mean picture in your mind the guy most girls had a crush on during high school. If you could look like him you'd recieve a similar amount of attention | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 05:41 PM |
| 1 | BlackpillThat's where scientific progress enters the chat and tries to destroy those walls for you. Let's hope that one day it finds a way to make everyone good looking | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:39 PM |
| 0 | Is there any point dating as a physically neutral guy?The point is just the same as for unattractive guys. You put yourself on the market and wait or search until you find a woman that is physically attracted to you. It might never happen obv, but you still have higher chances compared to unattractive guys | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:36 PM |
| 3 | All women have inherent smv, but only the top 20%-30% of men have inherent smv.I figured, but I wanted to make things more clear for the Redpilled and doomer copers that might open the post | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:30 PM |
| 4 | The One and Only Problem In Front of Men is the Lack of Leveragehonest advice: search or wait unitl you find women that don't mind your height and always be careful because you might be settled for (assuming you wouldn't like it), don't fuck it up being too needy if you find one. Don't actively approach women if you're sensitive to rejection and don't delude yourself into believing the right one will surely appear someday. It's not actually an advice, it's more a mental attitude tbh, hope it helps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 05:23 PM |
| 7 | All women have inherent smv, but only the top 20%-30% of men have inherent smv.You need to be good looking to have inherent smv as a man. It's not about being in the top something % | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menI don't get your argument. Yeah we call it sexual desire but obvisouly it isn't caused by being desirable, it's caused by being (percieved) physically attractive to others. You can also call it sexual attraction btw if it bothers you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Singleness and how this sub forgets why people should dateYeah definetly, but let's be honest it won't make that much of a difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 04:58 PM |
| 0 | The One and Only Problem In Front of Men is the Lack of LeverageAt present time you can only have surgery or you can use GH if you're still developing. Let's hope that some scientist finds a way to reopen plates soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 04:36 PM |
| 6 | How do you think dating will change and evolve within the next decade?Dating apps are a symptom, not the problem. True, the root of the problem is biological. Banning OLD won't make girls attracted to average guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 04:32 PM |
| 6 | Singleness and how this sub forgets why people should dateimo Therapy can help but ultimately if your sexual and relationship needs are not met you're going to have a hole in your life that cannot be filled with therapy or friendships alone. Let's not pretend these needs are secondary in our lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 04:29 PM |
| 1 | The One and Only Problem In Front of Men is the Lack of LeverageInflation of Looks doesn't actually exist, conevntionally good looks are biological and mostly objective. Everyone could be attractive theoretically, it's not a zero sum game like being rich. This is also kinda true for Height, an ideal height probably exists and imo it's in the range between 6'1 and 6'3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Singleness and how this sub forgets why people should dateUnironic opinion: Governments should make plastic surgery more accessible and improve genetic engeenering to let people (both men and women) become more attractive. This way we don't force people to settle and we fix mass singleness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 03:36 PM |
| 8 | Singleness and how this sub forgets why people should datePeople should date because they find each other attractive, who cares about sociopolitical issues. If governments are really concerned so much about this issues they can always try to restructure society and make women more dependent on men (I'm joking, it's a provocatory idea) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 03:05 PM |
| 2 | The One and Only Problem In Front of Men is the Lack of LeverageTbh men should strive to find ways to become more physically attractive, that's the only way the concept of "leverage" fades and women become genuinely attracted to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?I don't care about the actual numbers, the underlying phenomenon is pretty visible even without quantifying it. 80-20 is just a concept to express that the dating market is skewed (a lot) in favour of good looking men and that average guy is kinda miserable in dating, it's not about the actual numbers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?What about good looking guys being plenty of options for both casual sex, situationships and relationships while plain looking guys and unattractive guys have to wait for years to find a woman interested in them and are basically excluded from casual sex by default? Do you really want to deny this facts?? Maybe the numbers are wrong, maybe it's actually 70-30 idk, but we cannot deny the truth behind the macroscopic influence of Looks on your dating options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?male sex workers exist lol, it's just that most women don't like transactional sex and neither do most men actually, since escorts are not a solution for incels and dating issues in general. if you want to expierence sexual freedom then you have to use what is avaiable to you Yeah I agree, but if you're plain looking or slightly unattractive like most men out there what's availabe to you is almost non existent. Also, even if you manage to become High value through resources (money, status) women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?For most men it's not enough to find a partner that is settling for you, they want the genuine "attractive guy" dating experience where you have multiple Genuine options and you pick the one that you fancy most. It's not something that can be helped, it's how we're naturally built and modern societies indirectly encourages this instincts by enforcing sexual freedom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?I'm not happy with it, I'm depressed. I was just expressing that it's false that "50% of population will be forever alone", dating is less drastic than this but it still sucks for most people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 01:13 PM |
| 2 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?Why are you dealing in absolutes like a Sith?? The 80-20 principle (also) states that 20% of women have some sort of attraction towards the bottom 80% of guys. Also, at some point of their lives most will likely settle and give chances to less attractive guys. The majority of guys are still going to marry and have kids during their lives but this means nothing tbh, what truly matters is personal satisfaction and I don't think that a guy that is settled after years of constant rejection/invisibil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?Eventually someone will settle for most of them, also if you have an active social life you'll eventually find someone that gives you a chance even if you're in your 20s, but it might take years just to get one single chance and its quality will likely be subpar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?since women feel free to choose and don't need to rely on men financially and socially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)It's because deep down they want the genuine thing, patriarchy and leverage on resources can only grant you a transactional relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 11:55 AM |
| 3 | Toxic pill not purple pill?!Your opinions and theories still need to account on the facts that most guys have little or inexistent dating options and are excluded from casual sex, while attractive guys are usually full of options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 11:30 AM |
| 13 | Blackpillers aren’t always fat, lazy, basement dweller NEET losersBlackpill is about realizing the importance of Looks and how physical attraction is basically the only way to get genuine sex and validation. Throwing the towel and doomerism are not a part of the Blackpill idoelogy, it's just how many people react to it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Behaviour can definitely enhance or diminish sexual attraction towards someone but a certain amount has to exist in the first place to enhance it. Just like how you can make a fire bigger by blowing on it but you cannot generate fire by blowing air, the fire needs to exist in the first place. I also agree that women can lose attraction towards an attractive guy but the opposite is just not true: you cannot build sexual attraction by behaviour alone without physical attraction. Aside from persona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 02:29 AM |
| 0 | What are you if you’re not blackpill, redpill, bluepill and definitely not chad?The point is that those 3 main pills basically cover the entire spectrum of reasons/theories about why women are attracted to men: -Personality (blue) -Looks, Money or Status (red) -Looks is the key to genuine attraction (black) How can you not fall into one of these? Redpill in particular is the most generic that covers multiple aspects, so whatever new theory you might have will probably end up being a variant of Redpill. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/09/23 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Most women don't really care about your behaviour if they're not physically attracted to you, if anything they are going to get creeped more likely. Eventually (after 25/30) most will end up uncosciously valuing stability and emotional connection and they might give you a chance, but without physical attraction you're just being settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)I understand your point but I have to point out a big flaw in your reasoning. at least men have other factors they can work on if their looks are not their top attribute This is only a half truth: your other attributes cannot actually compensate lack of physical attraction. Money, Status and good personality traits are all resources that can contribuite to make you desirable (after 30 realistically) and get you laid but cannot make a woman genuinely attracted to you. These are all traits that ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Nature and instincts don't differentiate between sex done for pleasure and sex done for mating, the same genetic selection applies to both | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)he doesn't have to be perfect, but you have to be physically attracted to him (and he to you). You could also invest time and effort in a relationship without physical attraction, but why would you?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 07:29 PM |
| 3 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)They weren't attracted even 50 years ago but they had to settle due to how society was. When women are 100% free to choose (like modern women under 30) they're not going to give a chance to men that they are not physically attracted to, and this is the right way tbh because no one wants to be settled for or to recieve pity sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 06:58 PM |
| 4 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)What's inside cannot generate sexual attraction (or maybe it can but for an irrelevant small % of people), this is true for both men and women. I agree with you that women think differently and have different values but still physical attraction is the most important factor for both and it's not a conscious choice we're just built and wired to be like this, let's accept it. Also, it's not true that we care only for the outside, guys also want a girl they have sexual chemistry with and that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 06:55 PM |
| 2 | What is considered “settling”?What you're talking about are ONS, but they are not relationships and the concept of settling cannot apply in the first place. I was talking about FWB, situationships and let me tell you this: would people really prefer being settled without physical attraction or to be in an adventorous sexual relationship with someone that they have poor connection with?? I'd say that everyone would prefer the second option and enthusiastically too (unless they have mental or economic issues but then we'd be d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)You're talking as if being attractive is just a feature among features, but in real life it's obvious that conventionally good looking people have plenty of options regardless of other factors simply because they look good. But this was not the point of my post. What I wanted to say it's that physical attraction is the priority for most young adults and righfully, since we literally can't develop feelings for someone we don't find attractive. Instead you're talking as if you could compensate lac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Dude, physical attraction is not that much dependent on your Looks, meaning ugly/unattractive girls still have the same tastes as the hot ones more or less. Yeah they might give you a chance way more likely but this doesn't guarantee that they are actually attracted to you, you are just being settled for most likely and likewise you're settling for someone you are not that attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:42 PM |
| 6 | What is considered “settling”?Nah, if there's (mutual) physical attraction but little emotional connection is something completely different and tbh it's suboptimal but still way better than settling. I'd say it's actually the recipe for an adventurous yet toxic relationship but realistically most people would choose this over having to settle or being settled. As a man I can definetly tell you that most guys actually want to be the "fuckboy" way more than the "husband". I can't speak for women but I believe that mutual phys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:33 PM |
| 5 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Or maybe you could simply accept opinions different to yours. Btw it's not like I made a detailed list of the desirable/undesirable physical characteristics. I'd say that simply stating that physical attraction and how charming you appear is linked to your bone structure is kinda acceptable in 2023, no?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Yeah, for many guys it's difficult to find a girl sexually/romantically interested in them. Under patriarchy, when men could leverage resources it was less difficult but IMO it wasn't actually better because relationships were mostly transactional and not genuine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:10 PM |
| 3 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Nowadays, men are not realizing that they have to be less of a provider and more interesting, charming, sexy, confident. They need to catch up to the times. True, however most of this is qualities are linked to how lucky you are with your genetic and bone structure. Don't get me wrong I believe most guys would eventually find a woman interested in them if they play numbers game long enough, but I think it's a degrading and dehumanizing experience that leads to mental issues in most cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:02 PM |
| 9 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)The same girls that reject you on Tinder by swiping left would also reject you in person, due to lack of physical attraction. In the RARE case she doesn't reject you irl and actually gives you a chance because "she likes your humor and personality" you're still going to get a subpar experience because intimacy and sex are going to suck if there's little or no physical attraction most always. Also, No one likes being settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)There's no need for comparison, I consider dating today objectively hard since many guys (both online and irl) complain about how hard it is to find a girl interested in them (sexually) If you want a direct comparison I'd say in the 70s and 80s dating was easier based on the stories of my dad, uncles and people of similar ages. At the same time I don't envy them since in those times there were still remnants of the "settling culture" of patriarchy and as a man you could leverage resources more (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)Most women want a partner that they are physically/sexually attracted to (without even realizing it consciously sometimes). Turns out conventionally good looking men (aka Chads, Handsomes) are usually the ones they are attracted to. Some times they are also attracted to plain looking guys but good luck finding one of those girls if you're plain looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)There's no plan, scientific progress and capitalism made the first world more complex and (ironically) less accessible instead of making life simplier. This factors combined with the dissolution of patriarchy have made women (for the first time ever) free to follow their own sexual instincts and pleasures. As a result many guys are no longer given a "chance" as they would have had under patriarchy, while the attractive ones are full of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 04:29 PM |
| 2 | Dating today is difficult because we prioritize Physical/Sexual Attraction (rightfully so)True That's why I don't get why some women feel morally superior by saying they also consider Confidence or Economic stability, I mean you're actually even more shallow. At least us for us men there's only one big parameter (looks) not a laundry list On an additional note those women are also lying to themselves most likely, since being sexy/handsome is usually enough to "bypass" the laundry list and have sex with them. It's fucked up to me, Looks and physical attraction are clearly the superior… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 04:22 PM |
| 10 | What is considered “settling”?Settling is usually used to express the situation when you're dating or are in a relationship with someone you're not physically attracted to. Basically, emotional connection and stability are there but there's little or no passion/lust at all and thus sex and intimacy are boring/stagnant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:44 PM |
| -2 | It is OK to be [Bad Thing]I agree but written in this way the message could be seen as "people should force themselves to like you" when applied to the dating world A more acceptable (woke-ish) way to express this idea is to say "you shouldn't force yourself to accept [bad thing], it's okay to feel bad about your shortcomings". Generally speaking this falls under the concept of "toxic positivity" which is a plague of our society, especially in the dating context | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/07/23 08:57 AM |
| 7 | BrutalWhite guys in the pic mog the asian ones also facially. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Only scientific progress can effectively "fix" inceldom and the dating marketDude get real, you're comparing an act of aggression and abuse towards another person with a depressing and isolating condition. They're both bad but in their own different ways I'd agree with you if you said that it's morally wrong that society ignores inceldom and doesn't try to adress the issue (if it's what you really meant, you worded it badly and this conversation doesn't have sense) | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 06:50 PM |
| 5 | She's Chad Only, brutal chadpill from bsgBrutal, I even bet Billy is better looking than most people here | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Only scientific progress can effectively "fix" inceldom and the dating marketNo it's not. You can't force people to be attracted to you, but don't get me wrong I still think it's super important to voice our disappointement and to talk about it in general. Besides you can always pay an escort in basically all developed countries if you wanna have validation-less sex | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Only scientific progress can effectively "fix" inceldom and the dating marketYou made a shitty comparison, rape is just morally wrong in developed societies and I'm not going to argue about it. Instead, when we talk about sex and relationship we usually want feelings to be mutual and the brutal Blackpill is that Nature made many men physically unfit to find these mutual feelings, it's a status quo. Even if we changed the structure of society (patriarchy for example) we can't change the fact that physical attraction cannot be forced, if you struggle to accept this you're … | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 04:27 PM |
| 3 | [Unpopular Opinion] Women's demands for alpha fux beta bux, in at least one aspect, are kinda sorta(?) justified?where's the bluepill tho? | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 01:00 AM |
| 3 | [Unpopular Opinion] Women's demands for alpha fux beta bux, in at least one aspect, are kinda sorta(?) justified?bad take, no one is agreeing with OP. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 12:34 AM |
| 4 | [Unpopular Opinion] Women's demands for alpha fux beta bux, in at least one aspect, are kinda sorta(?) justified?A woman will do the nastiest, most degrading, uncomfortable shit imaginable with absolutely no pleasure on her part with Chad. Wrong, if they're doing something with Chad they'll feel pleasure. But being realistic it's not like they would actually do everything Chad wants, if he likes something that is too much nasty they would be turned off, sometimes not even being a Chad can grant you everything. I side with women in this case, some men have fetishes that are just too much. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Only scientific progress can effectively "fix" inceldom and the dating marketIn due time, scientific and spiritual progress will help us abolish the female sex once and for all, fixing that problem for us. Imo if science found a way to make all men good looking it would be a better solution, wouldn't you agree?? | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/07/23 12:18 AM |
| 5 | [Unpopular Opinion] Women's demands for alpha fux beta bux, in at least one aspect, are kinda sorta(?) justified?Just in case this isn't a troll post... Women's sexuality is more complex than "10 inches, jackhammer for hours". Excuse me for the Blackpill but women usually need to be attracted to you to be in the mood, even if you had a 10 inches they would be turned off if you're short and ugly and they wouldn't enjoy sex. Conversely if you're good looking you're fine with an average sized penis This is actually what women mean when they compare their sexuality with men's and say that they need more "emoti… | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/07/23 11:50 PM |
| 1 | What are some subtle red flags that women should notice within the first 30 minutes of dating to pick better men?Why should Chads do it?? where's the incentive? Also, good looking guys are a minority, even if it happened 30% of girls would get to LTR good looking guys (and I'm being generous with the 30% thing), what about the other 70%?? should they wait for their turn in case attractive guys break up or should they "give a chance" to average and below average guys? | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/07/23 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Only scientific progress can effectively "fix" inceldom and the dating marketBasic level of respectfulness means speaking with women in normal terms without aggressively blaming them left and right for their Chadsexuality, shallowness and for their lack of empathy. Just maintain a detached attitude and attack their arguments rationally without needing to let them know how much you despise them and let me tell you that if you actually despise women for their behaviours there's something wrong in the way you're reacting to the Blackpill | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/07/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Only scientific progress can effectively "fix" inceldom and the dating marketDon't expect "le empathetic genderino" to talk respectfully about these issues though, they already want to ban s*x dolls JFL Doesn't matter, two wrongs don't make a right. Men should mantain a basic level of respectfulness towards women regardless of what women do or say. About the topic of sex dolls being banned I think that it's a win situation for men even if feminists manage to have them banned (I doubt it btw). The simple fact that we'll have a technology to ease the burden of lack of inti… | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/07/23 08:23 PM |
| 4 | My theory on why white people are the most attractiveWomen choosing men is a recent phenomenon, I don't think it's a factor. Genetic diversity and a better diet probably are the most important factors. Your argument about being the purest race makes little sense btw since genetic diversity is a factor as you also said | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/07/23 06:50 PM |
| 3 | For everyone, every pill, no pill and every spectrum of autism: Guys who believe their looks are keeping them single, and basic bitches women who call every guy who is struggling ugly, what are your thoughs on this?even if you are ugly being white is a sort of Status in less developed countries, also in these countries women are less looks driven | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 01:11 PM |
| 6 | I wonder if there was a reason bluepill ideology was dominant in society in the first place.Past men didn't care about pills ideology. Men in the past simply got women through higher status and money, and women didn't have the luxury of choice and selection. However since most humans don't want to view themselves as shallow creatures they had to lie to themselves and give most of the credit to Personality. Besides, considering that women had less access to culture the average man was percieved as wise and knowledgeable by the average woman. I think the bluepill delusional ideaology i… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 01:06 PM |
| 4 | For everyone, every pill, no pill and every spectrum of autism: Guys who believe their looks are keeping them single, and basic bitches women who call every guy who is struggling ugly, what are your thoughs on this?I'd like to know the quality of sex and intimacy between these two. And let me tell you that if your plan is being settled for and/or be a betabux you'll have more than one option after 30 | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex benefits womenYour reasoning makes no sense. But it depends, having casual sex favours men more than women because they have higher sex drive and many don't want to commit. But overall in terms of dating market it doesn't really favour anyone, it just allows everyone to follow its shallow nature. It definitely contributes to the rise of sexlessness, but even if casual sex was not socially accepted incels still wouldn't be considered desirable | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 11:07 AM |
| 2 | Are all Black Pills involuntary celebates ?LTN, MTN and HTN mean Low-tier Normie, Mid-tier Normie and High-tier Normie. It's an easier method to define what you might call a 5/10, 6/10, 7/10 looks wise. In the blackpill ideology LTN and MTN guys struggle with dating but they can still find a relationship and they usually have to commit in exchange for sex. HTN guys instead benefit from pretty privilege and don't struggle that much because many girls will consider them sexually desirable. Chadlite basically means a Hot guy and it is where… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Absolutely ludicrous standards that women have.you probably misunderstood my previous comment It's not a bad thing, I was (indirectly) saying that it's a good thing actually, because once you understand the dynamic you realize that only a relationship with mutual physical attraction can really be fulfilling. If the girl gives you "a chance", and there is only mental attraction, the relation is skewed and leads to bad intimacy or no intimacy at all. However let me tell you that it sucks that this type of fulfilling relationship is so hard to … | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 10:23 AM |
| 12 | Why most men here are singleSome guys simply don't want to put in the effort when they have so few chances of finding a fulfilling partner, and remember than many are more interested in casual sex or fwb rather than a ltr. Trust me, if average girls would magically became genuinely interested in us then almost no on here would be single or sexless. Likewise if everyone here magically became Good looking then almost no one here would be single or sexless | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 02:36 AM |
| 5 | Absolutely ludicrous standards that women have.Dude you're proving my point, you are repeting the same encouraging yet shallow words. What you're saying it's not wrong per se, but there are several facets that you fail to consider. You need mental energy in the first place to do the things you propose and also to keep going, that said how do you reasonably expect half-broken guys without options to find this mental energy?? Plus, are you even considering that what you said is not an infallible method but is instead a series of suggetions tha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 11:08 PM |
| 6 | Absolutely ludicrous standards that women have.W*men don't value "compassion" and "respect" from a sub-5 male. In fact they're disgusted by it. Maybe some value it, but the point is that it would not make them sexually interested. At best they "give you a chanche" and you end up in a boring sex relationship with someone that sees you as a mental cushion | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 10:34 PM |
| 5 | Absolutely ludicrous standards that women have.you also look like someone who doesn't want to challenge his belief. You happened to see some girls dating some non Chad guys, who could still be above average for all that matters, and thus you conclude that any average guy can easily date if he puts effort. I mean you're not even wrong theoretically, but you fail to acknowledge the struggle, and I'm not just talking about the time and money, I also want to point out at the mental struggle of accepting constant rejection and being ignored for t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 10:32 PM |
| 1 | What’s the solution to y’all actually getting dates with girls?It's never over in the sense that you cannot find even one girl that "accepts" you. It's just that when you have issues with yourself you feel it's not worth the effort tbh and it's not even guaranteed that you'll be attracted to the girl when you eventually find one. Another thing which is not guaranteed is wheter this girl will genuenly like you sexually or she just seeks company (which blackpillers usually find boring) If you want a practical solution I'd say one can always follow Redpill adv… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Absolutely ludicrous standards that women have.You don't have to be an Adonis, you need to be good looking. Prettyboys and the guys in your shcool that most girls have a crush on are definitely NOT Adonis, but they are good looking. You can still find a gf even if you're not good looking but most likely your gf won't be sexually attracted to you and you're either her free personal psychologist or she needs companionship in that moment of her life. And let's be real, this is not what most guys want, they want someone that likes them back sexu… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 07:39 PM |
| 7 | Absolutely ludicrous standards that women have.You know, like wanted to be treated with compassion and respect, and wanting a partner that treats them like a human being and not just a walking goal post to soothe their bruised egos. I think that most Girls get this feeling of acceptance from friendships nowadays. I agree that most want also a partner that treats them well, but before that they want someone they are physically attracted to. That's not even wrong mutual attraction is cool. But please be realistic and accept that the average gu… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 07:09 PM |
| 3 | Are all Black Pills involuntary celebates ?No, but many are. I think that actually most are MTN and LTN mentalcels, I know I am. For me there's no point in trying to date if you are not HTN at least. If I was a Chadlite I'd probably be addicted to casual sex, I suppose | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 06:49 PM |
| 1 | World War 3 will fix our problemsnot worth it, there are better solutions to "fix" inceldom long term: Sex bots, Virtual Reality, Eugenics, altering gender ratio | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Most important factors in dating rankedI believe Face is better than Height, but in general it's a trade off between them. If you're not short a conventionally good looking face is better because it will make girls genuinely interested. Height is more something girls like to show off, it doesn't have the same sexual impact | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 11:47 AM |
| 19 | I understandover for blackandwhitecels | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | World War 3 will fix our problemsyeah and after 30 years from the end of the war nothing will have changed | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 07:36 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is a chad?Theoretically no, he should be called a Chadlet in that case (Chad face + manlet cuz under 6ft). Keep in mind that Chad is more an idea of the ideal male rather than someone who really exists. Can Superman be Superman if he is tall 5ft 9? Arguably no he cannot be called superman in that case, because he'd be missing one of the fundamental ideal features of superman Can they be somewhat feminine? No, Chad cannot look feminine. He has to possess Pretty features to balance his overall masculine s… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is a chad?I'd say that the theoretic blackpill definition of Chad is a handsome tall man (6ft+) with wide shoulders and a muscular body, also he looks masculine but not too much (Bodybuilders are too much for example) both in body and face. Chad is considered the pinnacle of attractiveness because, facially, he is the combination of Masculine+Pretty with negligible aesthetic flaws and he also has a perfect body. But when you see the term being thrown around on the internet it's usually used as a funny syn… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 06:45 PM |
| 16 | Most incels don’t have body dysmorphiaYour comment is perfect The only thing I'd like to add is that imo if the average guy really had to make a choice between 1 billion dollars or to have the perfect body/face of their dreams... most would eventually choose the perfect body I think that the sensation of feeling cool in your own skin it's better than being rich. Money lets you buy happiness, being Attractive makes you BE happy | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 03:55 AM |
| 8 | Most incels don’t have body dysmorphiaTechinally Body Dysmorphia is about how you feel about yourself, regardless of your objective beauty level. If you are disappointed in the way you look and don't like your features it's still called body dysmorphia, even if you're objectively ugly So yes, many Incels do have it and I think that basically every user on looksmaxxing forums have it. Personally I think that it is indeed a sketchy definition precisely created so that the mainstream narrative can avoid talking about the lookism issue.… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 03:41 AM |
| 16 | I always wondered why girls seemed better to maintain and cultivate their hobbies. I realized it's because they do not have to worry or even think about getting dates/relationships.I think you're right for the most part. But then there is gaming, which is a rather mainstream hobby for guys. I think the reason is that video games make you feel a protagonist, they let you be the main character that you want to be irl | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/06/23 03:21 AM |
| 4 | Women generally just aren’t that interested in men no matter how attractive because they aren’t as horny. Any interest they do have is greatly overshadowed and diminished by how obsessed men are with women and the anxiety of putting themselves out there or the work involved in courtship.I was talking about dating. Good looking people still have the advantage overall because they are desirable even after they divorce, more so if they are also rich. And actually they also have an advantage for marriages because it's less liekly to turn into a deadbedroom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 08:15 PM |
| 6 | Women generally just aren’t that interested in men no matter how attractive because they aren’t as horny. Any interest they do have is greatly overshadowed and diminished by how obsessed men are with women and the anxiety of putting themselves out there or the work involved in courtship.Dude get real. There are a lot of guys out there struggling with dating while some do not struggle, what recurring qualities do you think the guys that are not struggling possess? or do you think it's completely random and qualities don't matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 07:37 PM |
| 9 | Women generally just aren’t that interested in men no matter how attractive because they aren’t as horny. Any interest they do have is greatly overshadowed and diminished by how obsessed men are with women and the anxiety of putting themselves out there or the work involved in courtship.Good looking guys do not struggle with dating or casual sex, unless they have mental issues (which they usually don't have) sorry to break this to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Once you start questioning your Looks it's basically over for your mental healthand you have no issues knowing that if you were hot you'd get sex easily, and with western girls on top of that, by simply existing and smiling? genuine question | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/06/23 07:13 PM |
| 21 | Women generally just aren’t that interested in men no matter how attractive because they aren’t as horny. Any interest they do have is greatly overshadowed and diminished by how obsessed men are with women and the anxiety of putting themselves out there or the work involved in courtship.And yet good looking guys are always full of options. Even if hot guys won't make most girls horny (unlike the other way around) they are still considered desirable on a "vibe" and aesthetic level, unlike your average joe Most girls will develop feelings for attractive guys and that's enough to create imbalance in the dating market, if they also develop horniness it's just a bonus for the guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 06:57 PM |
| – | Sexual liberation for women is a good thing and is empowering, but it's abused due to social pressures.I assume the majority of people who you saw being bullied are still alive today and contribute to society in one way or the other Am I wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 03:23 PM |
| – | Sexual liberation for women is a good thing and is empowering, but it's abused due to social pressures.You're exaggerating. I live in Europe and here nerds are not actively bullied, they usually are cast out and ignored, I was a half-nerd myself btw. The depressing reality is that there will never be a shortage of nerds, because many ugly, unattractive and neurodivergent kids today will be smart nerds tomorrow. And being bullied, cast out and ignored will not be enough for most of them to want to end their lives. Society is definitely not healthy, but it won't collapse because the will to thrive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 02:44 PM |
| – | Sexual liberation for women is a good thing and is empowering, but it's abused due to social pressures.I don't get why you're depicting me as a patriarch loving misogynist. I simply stated an observation about women being shallow, I didn't say anything about whether or not I hate women. As a matter of fact I respect women's choices, but I'll still call them shallow and selective nonetheless. And same goes for men, we too are shallow (but less selective) Please fix your attitude because comments like this create futher disconnect between men and women instead of respecting that, males insist on re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 02:11 PM |
| – | Sexual liberation for women is a good thing and is empowering, but it's abused due to social pressures.I think it's not healthy for men, struggling to have sex when you clearly see that hot guys get it easily leads to mental issues, resentment, low self esteem, and other bad stuff. Furthermore marriages are less stable and there is more disconnect between men and women However, the solution is not going back towards patriarchy, because that would be a disservice towards women and their freedom Personally I see no easy solution, only controversial ones like plastic surgery, eugenics, sex bots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 12:56 PM |
| 4 | Sexual liberation for women is a good thing and is empowering, but it's abused due to social pressures.it's not just having sex, it's the structure of the whole society. Today women are completely free to choose a man they like, they don't need a man to survive. This means you're no longer pressured into giving chances to unattractive men and you follow your instinct which are shallow and selective, more then men's. As a macroscopic consequence good looking guys are full of women and average/unattractive guys struggle to even get one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Female access to education, and their social and financial independence, are the primary cause of male loneliness, falling birthrates, and hypergamy.Physical attractiveness doesn't work like this. Certain features are desirable no matter what. A tall man with a strong jawline, hunter eyes and full of hairs will be considered attractive even if somehow he happens to be the worst looking man alive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Sexual liberation for women is a good thing and is empowering, but it's abused due to social pressures.Least delusional feminist white knight Jokes asides, I think you're overestimating the peer pressure into being "a hoe", personally I think it's a niche negligible phenomenon (I live in Europe) I think you're struggling to realize that in a sexually free country women's tastes naturally become more shallow, and when women start to select men on the base of their looks... it happens that average guys are not attractive enough to receive much attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Female access to education, and their social and financial independence, are the primary cause of male loneliness, falling birthrates, and hypergamy.Physical attractiveness is mostly objective, the bar literally cannot go high indefinitely. If every guy looked like young Brad Pitt, Di Caprio or Jhonny Depp every guy would be considered attractive and women would choose them accordingly to their own individual tastes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 02:09 AM |
| 3 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugFind the woman who thinks you’re hot and lusts after you, live out your dreams. I think we are back to square one with this, don't you agree?? Average guys don't have this luxury, I mean I'm sure statistically at least one such woman should exist out there, but the time and effort I'd have to invest to find her and the possibility that I'd never find her is demoralizing enough. I'd rather wait semi-passively for the opportunity to present itself. Besides, I think I have deep issues with my aesth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 02:00 AM |
| 3 | Female access to education, and their social and financial independence, are the primary cause of male loneliness, falling birthrates, and hypergamy.Your reasoning it's not wrong per se,but you're approaching the issue from an antiquated pov (patriarchy). Imo, a far better pov is considering physical attraction: Most men are not attractive enough to make women interested in them. If we could make men more attractive, then male lonliness would decrease AND in the best way possible, because the attraction would be natural. Win-Win for both sexes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 01:38 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugbecause it'd make me feel happy, is it wrong? It's not like I'd force women to lust for me, I simply wish I were good looking so that women lusted for me naturally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 12:43 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugI don't think I'll ever get over this tbh. Your example doesn't make sense, I wish I were good looking so that women found me attractive. I don't expect women to be attracted to someone just because he's rich and can provide | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 12:37 AM |
| 6 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugnot being able to have genuine sex it's definitely a problem for men, especially if they're objectively ugly. It affects your well being, mental health, self esteem and personality. thus, indirectly, your whole life. I wouldn't say it's society 1st problem rn, but it's definitely one of the biggest issues of developed societies It also affects women indirectly, because the scarcity of HVM means only few women are going to experience a truly fulfilling relationship/marriage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Do men really care about anything other than a woman's looks when it comes to attraction?smartness, loyalty, sex drive These things matter only if she's decent looking (f*ckable). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVThat's fine. Unfortunately some men really do think that providing resources will make women attracted to them, try to forgive them if you can. It's a cruel world for both sides | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:02 PM |
| -1 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVwas sexual chemistry fine? were you able to look him in the eyes during sex without cringing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:52 PM |
| 0 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVHow would sexual chemistry work? would it be fine to just pretend you're having an orgasm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVit's usually a lose-lose situation for both the bald attorney and its wife tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:46 PM |
| 9 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugI don't expect it, not anymore. This causes me issues tbh, I'm disappointed with the universe that I am not one of the special ones. I know it doesn't make sense rationally but I can't help how I feel I don't have issues with women, they are free to ignore average guys and chase after hot guys if that's what they desire. I wished society openly recognized this issue though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:44 PM |
| 0 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVbased on your comments I can tell you're blackpilled, don't deny it to yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVPersonality, Confidence, Money, Status can all increase attraction, but only if she considers you physically attractive in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVYeah I agree, but remember that men are more limited for their physical appearance. A nice body doesn't compensate an unattractive face or being short. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:14 PM |
| 3 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVMost actually act nicely kinda genuinely, it's just that if you consider them attractive you find it genuine, if they are unattractive you start being suspicious and see ulterior motives. I'm not talking about those "nice guys" that calls you names after you reject them, I'm talking about those that take the rejection with a smile, go home cry and feel depressed for a while. (excuse me for this clarification, but it seems it's needed) In my experience most aren't actually nice, they are copying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:07 PM |
| 4 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugYeah but how will it play out? will I get to experience the same lust that Hot guys recieve? will I be able to simply get casual sex without having to commit, if I desired? Will I ever have options?? Finding somone "normal" it's not enough for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:32 PM |
| 4 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugNot true, I've seen the difference between average plain looking guys and above average guys. It's a lot of difference, average are invisible 99% of time, while above average are considered "cute" by many girls. I also know some hot guys, they live on another different planet. Girls check them out, are always cheerful towards them and sometimes they also take the first step. And let me tell you these guys are not "extremely attractive" Brad Pitt tier, they are simply good looking with small flaw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | For almost all of us here it is simply delusional to expect to be your partner's perfect spouse lookswise.Being married with kids means almost nothing, it's not enough to be an indicator of succesfull relationship. How's your mental health? do you feel the compromise? how's your sexual chemistry? do you truly care for each other? do you feel physical attraction? do you feel happy? Imo, these are questions that could provide an effective indicator if they were answered honestly. Ofc, we can never know the underlying truth because people would not answer honestly, but I can tell you that if a relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:46 PM |
| 11 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugThe biggest shock for me was realizing that average looking guys are not considered attractive. I went through school as an unattractive below average kid that wanted to look "normal" and be considered attractive, only to realize it's not enough. Why do we have to look the way we do and accept it? I wish eugenics was common practice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:10 PM |
| 0 | For almost all of us here it is simply delusional to expect to be your partner's perfect spouse lookswise.You're exaggerating it. People here usually say that they want their partner to see them as physically attractive, NOT the most handsome/beautiful person who has ever existed. Many guys (me too) here consider Looks to be the most important aspect, but this doesn't mean that attraction ends with looks. There are several other aspects, especially if we consider a LTR, it's just that Looks happen to be the first and most important one upon which the other aspects can flourish. If you want a success… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Are women more submissive or dominant towards good looking guys?Nice try, but Humans clearly follow trends, often unconsciously. Like, for example, if I said that men prefer submissive women I think no one would argue because the trend definetly exists, even if each man has his own tastes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Are women more submissive or dominant towards good looking guys?Yeah, honestly I believe I kinda found the answer myself rereading my post: Women are turned on by attractive guys, and an aroused woman is more likely to want to try several sexual stuff. So in the end, attractive guys are the ones who get to see both sides, but I still think that most times women act submissively towards them, the opposite just doesn't make sense outside particular situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Are women more submissive or dominant towards good looking guys?Yes, but not just that. Dominant means also that she takes charge during sex and somewhat treats you as a "sex toy" for her pleasure. I also heard stories of guys who got handcuffed or fingered in the a** during sex. As you can imagine all the guys that had such kinds of experiences are good looking, which imo reinforces the idea that women are not just submissive towards them, but maybe it's just because they have sex with a lot of girls. Normies never talk about sexual stuff and I bet that's b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 03:29 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?It's not that much about how quickly you have sex, it's more about the quality of it and how much a girl lusts over you. The comment above is suggesting that the earlier you have sex, the earlier you'll know "the truth". The truth being whether or not she is into you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 01:01 AM |
| 3 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?the comment above said "quickly" not first date. it's perfectly possible for a woman to have a burning desire for a man and still exercise self-control? Nothing wrong with it, the key point is: is the desire actually there or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:45 AM |
| 3 | If it's insulting that someone wants you after they've had their fun in their youth, would it be even more insulting if they still didn't want you?It's insulting in both cases. I'd say it's neutral only if she thinks you're somewhat attractive physically | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:17 AM |
| 4 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?A woman can lie, her vagina can't. bascially, be the one that her vagina wants LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:25 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?low sex drive from the woman, starfish sex, dead bedroom... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:14 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?I won't argue your claim, but please understand that it's really hard not to be somewhat insecure if you're not conventionally good looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:13 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?With the plethora of options that people have today, there's no need to settle. Could only be real if everyone was good-looking. How can you even think average people are not settling? It's obvious that the options are limited: men rarely find women that lusts over them and women rarely can make the guy of her dreams commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:10 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?A betabux can still be respected... Respect is important but not enough, only if she lusts for you physically you'll have a true fulfilling relationship imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 10:56 PM |
| 18 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?I think it's super important and the true key ingredient for a fulfilling relationship. You are definitely missing something if there's no lust in bed, I believe this goes both ways but it's more important for men since they have higher sex drive. However I also believe that if you're plain/average looking you'll probably never experience this unless you find a woman that somehow genuinely sees you as a hot man. I think that it will not necessarily end up a dead bedroom if lust is missing but it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 10:51 PM |
| 4 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?Agree overall, but The core problem is that we have a women that is being a bad partner by not providing sexually. This is what we need to focus on I don't think she is being a bad partner, it's not her choice whether she lusts or not for you. It's noone fault, your face/body are simply not "enough" for her and that's it. You can accept this and go on with a sub-optimal relationship or break up and search another partner that you're more compatible with sexually (giga hard to find if you're aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 10:41 PM |
| 1 | I'm basically an incel in a chad-lite's body: AMANo questions just an advice. Download Tinder and play the numbers game, initiate the conversation with some girls but not with everyone. Eventually over time you should (in theory) develop an acceptable amount of social skills. Also, DON'T be needy and be careful of crazy girls that want to manipulate you. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/06/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | The whole “wOmEn dOn’T oWe yOu sEx” narrative is bullshit, the vast majority of men do not think this at all. Most men just rightfully expect to be able to get women at or below their level of attractiveness.Agree, the issue ultimately is with ourselves not with women. I think that the true inner thought that plagues unattractive/average men is NOT "women should give me sex" but it's actually "why am I not attractive enough to have free easy sex?" Blackpillers usually understand it, others cope with some type of bullshit. Unfortunately some few men are violent or toxic, and women obviously blame most men | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/06/23 06:08 PM |
| 5 | most Men that feel nostalgic of Patriarchy are copingonly Looks can make them wet though, the others traits can make you get women only on a superficial level, you don't get their heart/pussy without good looks | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/04/23 11:50 AM |
| 2 | most Men that feel nostalgic of Patriarchy are copingRationally agree, even if for me it's difficult to relate because I don't share those values. I'd argue that being a Chad in the 21st century easily trumps everything else | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:53 PM |
| 3 | most Men that feel nostalgic of Patriarchy are copingimplying that it would be okay if we could somehow control women’s lust No wtf, don't put words in my mouth. I think it's bad and delusional to try to actively make women feel attracted to what they are not. Even if (hypothetically) patriarcy managed to make women lust for men it would be bad, however in this case I wouldn't consider those Redpilled copers because they would have a point. Btw it already exists a way to "control" women's lust: having an attractive face | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:40 PM |
| 4 | most Men that feel nostalgic of Patriarchy are copingmen in the past didn't really care about whether their wives were attracted to them or not This is another intersting topic, honestly idk if it's true and I don't even know if we have enough resources to find the answer. However my post is mostly about the men that advocate for patriarchy nowadays, they cope with the belief that such a society would make them feel fulfilled. I understand them actually, because the competition we have today is really fucking dehumanizing | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:32 PM |
| 2 | most Men that feel nostalgic of Patriarchy are copingHonestly it seems to me that your view aligns with my post. My point is that Patriarchy managed to give most man a woman, but it didn't guarantee attraction, lust and intimacy because women were not free in their choices. However I have a different opinion on why women didn't cheat. I think most didn't because their sexuality was so much suppressed that they didn't even understand what they were attracted to. Now that women sexuality is free and empowered they understand what they like (Good Loo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?Don't worry bro no need to apologize, I am too in my 20s and I'm similar to you. However I believe that if I managed to become Good Looking somehow I wouldn't be haunted by the past | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | most Men that feel nostalgic of Patriarchy are copingPatriarchy does indeed hurt men, but not for the reasons you stated I'm sure there are also other aspects, but why don't you consider my argument one of the biggest one? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?Would you consider it a sexual turn-off? or it wouldn't matter? In the case you consider it a turn-off, is it a rational or irrational feeling? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?but still have some time to go before its perfect Yeah I know, I wasn't trying to sell the idea that today's cosmetic surgery grants you Chad Looks As for Eugenics I'm not informed either, but I still consider it a viable Theoretical option, and after having read some basic low-level information I want to believe that one day it'll become practical and effective | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?Genuine Question: how would you consider a man that has become attractive thanks to cosmetic surgery? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 09:54 PM |
| 5 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?Cosmetic Surgery and Eugenics let you "argue" with it | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 09:51 PM |
| 8 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?They don't hate most men imo, they simply ignore them as long as they don't try to get their attention too much (in this case they hate them because they tried to overcome the boundaries) When you put it this way I don't blame them I guess This is why hating women is stupid, it's noone's fault they don't feel attracted to the average man. Blame Nature and Evolution instead ;D | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 09:32 PM |
| 9 | Why are bigger chicks and mid's so picky?Most Women are biologically programmed to not feel physical/sexual attraction towards plain looking guys. At best they tolarate a plain man's looks enough to settle with them | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.Not every woman, but most are. Btw I don't really think they are "whores", women are simply physically attracted by hot guys and easily develop the mental connection required for sex with them. That's what I meant when I wrote that they want to fuck Chad | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Racism Isn't Ok, Homophobia and Transphobia isn't ok, Sexism isn't ok, but Lookism is Perfectly Acceptable and to Be EncouragedFuck this planet :) One of the biggest problems imo is that beauty can't be directly objectively measured (like height or skin colour). Thus society can sublty and easily gaslight unattractive people, because these people can't prove that they are not attractive. We have to wait for blackpill beauty standards to become mainstream for unattractiveness to be recognized | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Looks don’t matter if you’re a socially inept, uncharismatic, devoid of wit, man.Then you can become yourself an extrovert average looking guy and see for yourself that the amount of attention you'll receive will still be small, let alone the its quality. I won't deny that being extrovert is important, but in the end it's just a bonus for your Looks, it's not the "main course" of attraction | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?Yeah it is, but it's unconscious. Most normies actively spread the politically correct propaganda that looks are not important and force themself to believe it. I'm still waiting for the moment society openly and rationally accepts that Looks matter the most | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.Chadfishing experiments, hot Male protagonists/villains, talking to girls irl, talking to Chads friends, basic observation of irl interactions in general | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.You're such a factory of based comments tbh | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/04/23 08:45 PM |
| 1 | The Women on r/PurplePillDebate and r/FemaleDatingStrategy are way more Black/Redpilling then any actual blackpill website ever couldI'm not doing it on purpose, I literally lose interest if I have to invest too much resources in such a rigged game, plus I think I have BDD so I have personal issues about myself and I feel it adds to the self entitkement | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/04/23 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.Different analogy. Job interviews are less rigged and there is less "emotional investment" | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/04/23 08:39 PM |
| 0 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.They want to fuck Chad, the issues of loosing virginity and commitment comes later. Just like you sometimes want to eat trash food because it's tasty without even caring about the fact that it's unhealthy | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/04/23 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.Yeah I agree but there are also more risks irl. And to describe the full picture we have also to talk about the pain of rejection, it hurts to be rejected, ignored or laughed at especially when you consider that it happens for reasons you can't control (face & height mostly) | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.It's not fair wtf. If you go out and meet people you'll remain an incel if you don't find someone who likes you physically. You could argue that eventually you'll find someone but you have to realize that this numbers game is emotionally dehumanazing | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Imagine If It Were Possible To Turn Ugly and Average Guys Into Chad Through Plastic SurgeryIt happens when you feel excluded from the party, I guess | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 03:55 PM |
| 4 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.It worked in the past but not anymore. Now women are more conscious about their sexuality, they know well what they like and desire, this awareness would take much time to go away. Probably more normies would find a wife/gf easily, but there wouldn't be genuine mutual attraction. Besides let's be real, what you're proposing is basically impossible and honestly it would take away most of the fun of having sex. The real effective solution is maintaining casual sex and, at the same time, granting i… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 03:52 PM |
| 4 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.In a non rigged and less competitive environment many incels would try to. It's the slim chances of success and and the absence of its garancy that make them abandon the game. Can you really blame them? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Change my View : If Casual Sex was forbidden, the Incel Pandemic would be resolved majorily.nah, many women are aroused by the idea of sleeping with them, then they realize Chad won't commit and they feel bad. But this doesn't make the initial arousal less genuine | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 03:40 PM |
| 0 | People Who Deny The Importance of Looks In Employment Please Read This NY Times ArticleI don't think that for men being extremely good looking helps that much for having a better earning, at least for the average job. The real privilege imo is how people behave around you, putting you on a pedestal and obviously having a higher well-being which translates into better working. Basically, it's more about social beneftis rather than economical and imo they are actually more important overall, considering that they include the access to easy casual sex. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Imagine If It Were Possible To Turn Ugly and Average Guys Into Chad Through Plastic SurgeryNow a lot of this could be done if the funding were there, what we need is for someone to create a charity to improve cosmetic surgeries then crowdsource for funding, then to hire researchers, reward surgeons who can come up with new methods and eventually promote research across the field leading to improved results. Giga IQ opinion | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 03:25 PM |
| 0 | Imagine If It Were Possible To Turn Ugly and Average Guys Into Chad Through Plastic SurgeryFalse, beauty is mostly objective, it could exist a world of only 9s and 10s theoretically. Height is more a matter of comparison, yet I believe that an ideal height exist (imo it's around 6"1-6"2) | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Imagine If It Were Possible To Turn Ugly and Average Guys Into Chad Through Plastic SurgeryFalse af, Chads thrive because they are conventionally good looking, which is an "objective" standard set by Nature and Evolution. I agree that today they have an extra bonus due to being rare, but realistically in a world full of Chads being one would still grant you options. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 10:21 AM |
| 1 | How do Blackpillers explain the phenom of the normie that through great social skills + charisma gets laid kinda often?I think that the "Normies" in question are actually High Tier Normies honestly but a chadlite hasnt that much value that he can slay by having bad game The point imo is that Chadlites are yet still full of options, they may fail to attract a single particular girl but overall they're good regardless of their game | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 10:16 AM |
| 2 | The chadfish account is easy mode fr. Women do approach. Snap out of the bluepill Disney programmingJust become tall and good looking bro fr tho, why is it so fucking hard to be tall and good looking, fuck Evolution | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Physical looks as a component for being attractive to women is highly overrated in relation to charisma, social status and emotional intelligence.They're not turned off that much if you're hot enough. Meaning you'll have less options than an hot extrovert nt guy but you still won't lack options. And you'll easily find new opportunities to improve your personality and game over time | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/03/23 09:49 AM |
| 9 | Physical looks as a component for being attractive to women is highly overrated in relation to charisma, social status and emotional intelligence.I prescribe you a big dose of black pill. I'm joking, but what you wrote is really just theoretical wishful thinking being NT, confident and extroverted are "skills" that surely help, but you won't be able to use these skills if the door is closed, and only Looks (face) can open it. Besides, good looks allow you to overcome shyness in the long run. It's the unattractive shy guys that are truly fucked because they are invisible and thus life doesn't give them enough opportunities to overcome it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/03/23 09:54 AM |
| 6 | How Are Sub4s With Male Faces Supposed To Survive?imo Euthanasia should be legalized under certain conditions for ugly/unattractive people But before it, developed countries should improve cosmetic surgeries and make it almost free for bad cases | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/03/23 09:23 AM |
| 1 | What differentiates the ones who are more salty and dragging everyone down because of their circumstances from the ones who are highly self-aware but accepting and keep it moving?Inceldom comes with the mentality that if women aren’t throwing themselves at you like male models get and if you aren’t banging the hottest possible women then you’re gonna get betabuxxed or you’re “fighting for scraps”. Ok but you have to realize the situation you're describing it's kinda true. I know some attractive guys, women do not really "throw themsleves at them" but they clearly show that they are open and interested. What about those guys that have literally 0 women behaving like this … | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/03/23 11:53 AM |
| 5 | If the 80/20 rule is true than isn't hetero sex a zero-sum game?They can tolerate sex with an average man if they know him for a long time and tune him out. And this is why, IMO, being plain/average (as per today's standards) will never be enough. Only being good looking can grant you and your partner high quality pleasure and intimacy, without raw physical attraction sex feels more like mutual masturbation Women should be more honest about the correlation between physical attraction and good sex | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/03/23 06:12 PM |
| 2 | if you have an average face being Tall doesn't increase your Looks, it increases StatusThe logic is always the same imo. Looks (face) is the most important feature and act as a treshold for genuine attraction. Everything else (Money, Status, Personality) matters only if there is a big lack of it. I mean, having literally 0 charisma and being neurodivergent is very bad even if you are good looking, but in no way they can "compensate" and create genuine attraction if you are fine on that aspects but looks are not good | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/03/23 06:04 PM |
| 9 | The Women on r/PurplePillDebate and r/FemaleDatingStrategy are way more Black/Redpilling then any actual blackpill website ever couldI'm not going to blame guys that do it, but imo it's really dehumanizing having to behave in this way to get only CRUMBS My current level of "self-entitlement" is that if I have to act like this I have already lost. I prefer to be myself and struggle, at least if I succeed I did it the Chad way (more or less) | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 09:17 PM |
| 15 | The Women on r/PurplePillDebate and r/FemaleDatingStrategy are way more Black/Redpilling then any actual blackpill website ever couldJust existing is enough. he didn't need to lift, get a career, education, didn't need to avoid jail. Show up, and girls just appear. Top tier life validation. Jealousyfuel for me | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | My only hope is that one day I can transform myself to chad through technology or at least become white and normie ..which sucks but not as much as being what I am now . What are your copes ?It's not escapism if it's realistic enough IMHO | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | What are modern men getting out of all this? **The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the change**The statement is true. Most modern men need to looksmax if they want genuine sex and validation. Status and Money are not enough for most people, unless they don't mind being betabuxxers or sleeping with escorts | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 08:59 PM |
| 4 | People on the internet say that blackpill is just theory and i should touch grassNothing will make you more Blackpilled than growing up with a bad malocclusion and having close attractive friends. Trust me ;D | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 08:48 PM |
| 6 | The Women on r/PurplePillDebate and r/FemaleDatingStrategy are way more Black/Redpilling then any actual blackpill website ever couldActually when I was discussing on PurplePill (now waiting for the ban to expire) it seemed that the number of bluepilled women far exceeded the number of blackpilled ones. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 08:45 PM |
| 15 | The Women on r/PurplePillDebate and r/FemaleDatingStrategy are way more Black/Redpilling then any actual blackpill website ever couldThat dude had girls chasing him 5 years after he broke up with them or cheated on them. Crazy shit and more. Friend of a Chad here, can confirm that this is mostly true. But the most brutal difference from us average guys is the sheer number of EASY options a Chad has imo | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 08:43 PM |
| 2 | My only hope is that one day I can transform myself to chad through technology or at least become white and normie ..which sucks but not as much as being what I am now . What are your copes ?advanced VR might not be far behind. Just speculative anyway VR is barely useless. The only way to truly replace the real world would be to create a Matrix like virtual space which you could transfer your consciousness to (don't ask me how lol), otherwise basic stuff like eating or having sex would never feel real. We will probably need advanced A.I to get that close but such a thing could be a future apparition of basic language A.I in terms of the interaction capacity I believe that AI is us… | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?There is a reason why society evolved into monogamy and polygamy failed. It was for different reasons, in past times women weren't free to choose. I think it is way more likely that monogamy was invented to prevent "Alpha males" from getting all the women, Alphas had to agree with it otherwise they would be killed. The problem is when there is a critical number of men whose life is ruined then you have social instability, murders, crime rises with consequences on the economy too. I agree, but … | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | if you have an average face being Tall doesn't increase your Looks, it increases StatusBut can your height make you genuinely attractive to someone that doesn't like your face? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 11:40 AM |
| 1 | if you have an average face being Tall doesn't increase your Looks, it increases StatusAgree. But it can act as an attraction multiplier if Looks are on point | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?What's more natural than the current dating situation in western countries? Women are free to choose who to sleep with, the social pressure for marriage is disappearing more and more, such as the economic pressure. Sure it might be catastrophic, but it's nature that tells women to reject unattractive men, not society | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/03/23 11:10 AM |
| 5 | Woman constantly lie and virtue signal about liking dad bods and big boys.No... theres clearly something else wrong with you. What did you mean by this then? | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/03/23 02:01 AM |
| 10 | Woman constantly lie and virtue signal about liking dad bods and big boys.No... theres clearly something else wrong with you. Why do you always have to gatekeep Looks issues of men. When fat women complain that they are invisible or treated badly people don't say to them that they have a mental problem, they either acknowledge the issue and advice to work out or they say that she's okay the way she is (which is stupid gaslighting btw) When a man has issues about his appeareance instead he's always judged as mentally ill. For you, it's always Personality that needs to … | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/03/23 01:57 AM |
| 2 | if you have an average face being Tall doesn't increase your Looks, it increases Statuswho cares Status cannot give you genuine attraction. Looks trumps everything else | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/03/23 01:40 AM |
| 2 | My only hope is that one day I can transform myself to chad through technology or at least become white and normie ..which sucks but not as much as being what I am now . What are your copes ?Yeah, being able to become good looking would be the biggest life change. It will make life better for basically every aspect and you get to recieve free genuine sexual attention | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 05:32 PM |
| 1 | My only hope is that one day I can transform myself to chad through technology or at least become white and normie ..which sucks but not as much as being what I am now . What are your copes ?Same tbh, I'd really like to have a conventionally good looking face. Why would you want to become white tho? If you're a Chad your skin color won't make that much of a difference | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 05:29 PM |
| 3 | My only hope is that one day I can transform myself to chad through technology or at least become white and normie ..which sucks but not as much as being what I am now . What are your copes ?If you hate women you're coping hard. You should hate the rigged game (Nature/Evolution) not its players. Hanging with true close friends helps to stop viewing everything with blackpill lenses, even if it's just a distraction from it | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 05:25 PM |
| 3 | My only hope is that one day I can transform myself to chad through technology or at least become white and normie ..which sucks but not as much as being what I am now . What are your copes ?You'd need some Matrix level virtual reality. I think it's much more distant in time than genetic engineering | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 05:18 PM |
| 1 | So the higher neoteny of African and East Eurasian races proves that in pre-history and early history Black and Asian women sexually selected for neotenous men more than West Eurasian Caucasian women did lolI really don't think it was women who made the choosing back then. More like alpha males of those times chose to made more children with neotenous women | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Am i the only who Gets insanely jealous of women posting their tinder statistics on Reddit.I don't care because they're playing in a different field. I'm jealous of attractive (heterosexual) men though, they play in my same field and they succeed | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 01:26 PM |
| 3 | I think in countries with socialized medicine (like mine ) should pay for euthanasia if you suffer from inceldomyeah, but Euthanasia is humane tho | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 01:23 PM |
| 5 | I think in countries with socialized medicine (like mine ) should pay for euthanasia if you suffer from inceldomHow in hell did you read this post as "putting people down". OP is talking about allowing people to die humanely IF THEY WISH TO | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Being Extremely Ugly Hideous Deformity Tier With A Male Face Can Completely Destroy Your LifeI would prefer to live in an honest society where people admitted they hated me based on my face rather than blaming my personality for their mistreatment of me. Then find ways to make society more honest. I'm not going to gaslight you, you are only one person and it's hard to imagine you'll make a big change to the world alone, but at least you'll be strifing for a "better" world That's also what I'm currently doing btw, trying to spread "constructive blackpill" on reddit. I'm probably not goin… | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 12:42 PM |
| 1 | I think in countries with socialized medicine (like mine ) should pay for euthanasia if you suffer from inceldomAgreed, but there should be an age limit, like 28 years old I think that creating a world where everyone can be attractive and no one wishes to die is the better solution tho | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 12:27 PM |
| 2 | Being Extremely Ugly Hideous Deformity Tier With A Male Face Can Completely Destroy Your LifeI am really sorry Assuming all of this is true, my personal advice is why don't you invest time trying to make society understand the harsh reality of Lookism/Blackpill? What are you going to lose? you are going to be discriminated regardless. Maybe if you committed to this you could achieve some fulfillment about your situation, like idk a sense of redemption towards society | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 02:11 AM |
| 2 | What are the options for the average guy?You could play a looong numbers game and hope to be lucky. Women's tastes are most always the same but some exceptions exist, maybe there are a few hot girls out there that will find you really attractive. Obviously you could still search for decades and never find one, it's not guaranteed. Money and Status obviously can help you a lot BUT if she doesn't find you physically attractive in the first place she'll never develop feelings for you, idk if you care or not about this. Besides, even if yo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/03/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Short women and ugly men should be excluded from the gene pool(men mostly get their height from their mothers and their face from their fathers) do you have proof or is it just your pov? I don't agree with you because it's impossible to make it ethical, I think that the better solution would be to improve gentic engeneering to make sure that every man will be tall (like at least 6 ft). It's morally wrong to restrict the freedom of people with bad genetics imo, we should instead find ways to make sure their children won't carry the "sin" of their parents | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/03/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | women are cold and emotionlessif you can give women material benefits (money for the most part) you will have their interest, they'll acknowledge your existence and listen to you. Obviously it won't be genuine interest, to get that the only way is being attractive in their eyes | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/03/23 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Why does nature have to be cruel like this?I hate this planet, there is literally no reason for this to happen and ruin a guy's life, yet it happens. There are no real options but looksmaxxing and eugenics for future generations. It's not just about having (real) sex, it's about enjoying your life to the fullest | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/03/23 09:08 PM |
| 14 | women are cold and emotionlessNah, women genuinely have emotions for stuff like cats, dogs, kids, minorities and world piece. It's just that they really don't care about the average man unless he's useful for something | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/03/23 02:08 AM |
| 1 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?based comment, however I'm sure that if the number of Blackpilled or incels becomes too high society will have to adopt them eventually | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/03/23 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?That is indeed cruel. Personal answer to this is only stoicism, realization of rigged reality and disregard for the validation that is being craved. Realistically impossible for most men, even the most Blackpilled | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 11:24 PM |
| 0 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?wtf yes it has. It's not an "absolute better", it's more an "effective better" given the circumstances | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?Men genes are more susceptibile to having experimental traits which can lead to evolution - When it fails? He wont reproduce. If it succeds? he will. Humanity can continue to evolve efficiently I agree. this is one of the cruelest Blackpills of all and it's even worse imo, because actually in the end many men with "defective" traits manage to reproduce, but at the expense of a fullfilling life for them and their offspring. The problem today is more visible, but it has always been there Today i… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 10:59 PM |
| 14 | Have you noticed that 70%+ of people in music fests are women?Girls genuinely like social events, Guys not so much because many are introverts and feel uncomfortable/awkward inside groups of people they don't know The deeper reason is that girls are praised for being extroverts regardless, guys are praised if they do and get pussy, if they don't get pussy they are losers. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?I don't agree with you on the rising bar. Beauty is mostly objective, being attractive is not (only) a matter of comparison. If all men were genetically designed to be conventionally attractive, as of today's standards, the bar wouldn't rise much more and everyone would be considered somewhat attractive. It took thousands of years to forge the beauty standards, they won't disappear just because everyone meets the threshold | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?our environment continues to change regardless. We encounter new sets of circumstances, new issues, etc. I think this is not true anymore. Again, I might just be close minded on this topic, but imo our environment is not going to drastically change in the next centuries unless there will be worldwide wars or environmental crisis. That’s why I say our preferences will change sooner than we become a chadtopia society. It's the opposite for me, thanks to genetic engineering Chadtopia is much more… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?Maybe I'm close minded but I really don't see how we could change our preferences, we're already close to the endline imo and our standards are not going to change significantly for centuries, especially for men | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Given enough time do you think Natural Selection could make Men more attractive, thus solving the incel phenomenon?I don't think their standards will rise more than this. What is considered conventionally attractive now will likely be considered the same way for centuries imo | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Whats the next best thing if youre not an alpha physically?if you have a good looking face girls are going to genuinely like you. The more you are short the more your pool shrinks, but at least their attraction won't be fake | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 05:14 PM |
| 2 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?not so sure about it. Seems like young men know about incels but they mostly view them as aggressive misogynists, they don't care about understading them and their ideologies. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?I don't use tiktok so I'm curious, does the average user know about the blackpill or is it just the same few users commenting under this kinds of videos? And do they actually know about it rationally? | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 04:10 PM |
| 2 | The black pill is the art of taking half truths and making them fit into full truths.Depends how you view it, Good Looks open you the door to life styles and experiences that are literally impossible to achieve without them. If you really think this shouldn't be considered that much important good for you | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 01:35 AM |
| 2 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?I want it to become mainstream because I'm tired of society acting like nothing is wrong and I hope (to cope) that maybe solutions will be found soon. call me egoistic but I don't give a shit if society "collapses" because the truth is too uncomfortable, Evolution has been toying with us since the age of mankind maybe this time we could finally counter it. Humanity needs to become more self aware about life imo, especially developed countries. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/03/23 12:47 AM |
| 2 | Western Women, how much of a turn on is it for you if a guy is rich?I think that Money they can only make you stand out for settling material. it cannot make you more sexually desirable alone, they can act as a multiplier if you're already attractive for a woman though. Btw I too don't get why RP obsess over it. Maybe it's because the other pill that is centered around Looks is considered a taboo, as of today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 07:18 PM |
| 4 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?Fine, but I asked how many years lol | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 06:20 PM |
| 6 | How many years before Blackpill becomes mainstream in the west?I can't tell exactly. Probably depression will rise among men, they'll try to legalize and normalize prostitution and society will try to push sex positivity, more men will take looksmaxxing seriously. There will be a bit more violence in the short period but far from causing the downfall of society. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Most women want a man with a face they find attractive. It's not just this, but this is the biggest aspect imo. Some don't care for beauty that much after a certain age and will prioritize Money or Status, at the expense of genuine attraction though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 06:00 PM |
| 7 | Where did all the good women go?They're invisible, you need hunter eyes and chiseled jawline to reveal their existence | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 05:40 PM |
| -1 | Since most women lose sexual interest in their long term partners, what incentive do men have to settle down with and marry women?you need someone that likes or loves you back tho. I talked about intimacy too btw, not just sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 05:12 PM |
| 2 | another proof both biology and racepill is cope and that sexual preferences of both women and men are heavily dependant on what society tells them:Beauty standards still revolve around the natural beauty standard that is ingrained inisde our brains, for men especially. cute is still far away from ugly. Men are not pets that need to be cute, they need to be sexually attractive. Some men are attractive because they are prettyboys but it's another matter, they are born that way and they still fit the beauty standard | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 01:10 PM |
| 1 | another proof both biology and racepill is cope and that sexual preferences of both women and men are heavily dependant on what society tells them:well, some years ago being ''black'' alone was too ugly or too foreign for majority of non-black girls, but it obviously changed in the west. That was more a cultural thing, and besides powerful have always had sex with attractive women, regardless of their race and upbringing why were breeders able to market dysgeny as cute? They are meant to be aesthetically cute, not sexually attractive | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 01:01 PM |
| 4 | Since most women lose sexual interest in their long term partners, what incentive do men have to settle down with and marry women?how do you think average men get non paid sex and half-conditional human intimacy? trying to be lucky with tinder?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 12:57 PM |
| 1 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.it would be arguably worse for society | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 12:54 PM |
| 3 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.28th century moggers be like https://e0.pxfuel.com/wallpapers/192/736/desktop-wallpaper-top-heavy-chad-gigachad-in-2021-memes-chad-reddit-funny.jpg | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 12:53 PM |
| 1 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.You got it. Apply this argument to face and height to get it even more | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 12:48 PM |
| 2 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.Idk if it's enough to be a death sentence. you should try looksmaxxing anyway imo. Besides, it could be a death sentence for slaying but if your goal is "only" to find a decent gf it's not over | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 12:45 PM |
| 3 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.good luck with the numbers game (unless you're hot) | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 05:36 AM |
| 2 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.it has value but alone is useless, you need to have a decent face too | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 05:33 AM |
| 5 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.Nope. It worked in the past but it's a shitty solution, it takes away the genuine fun of sex and intimacy | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 04:17 AM |
| 5 | Since most women lose sexual interest in their long term partners, what incentive do men have to settle down with and marry women?it's an issue but I don't think we can force them not to do it and besides who cares about morality. Attraction is irrational, it's stupid to apply ethics to it Imo we need to address the issue by making men attractive or giving them more options, not by restricting freedom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 04:14 AM |
| 1 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ9fdwUZDco | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 04:07 AM |
| 13 | Since most women lose sexual interest in their long term partners, what incentive do men have to settle down with and marry women?For some men it is. I don't find it funny if we're going to talk about this kind of issues on a sub such as this one. It's kinda rude to make racist jokes on a sub that talks about racism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 03:38 AM |
| 2 | The wall does not existI'd argue that becoming old is judged more hardly than being young and unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 03:34 AM |
| 2 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.Just like when we go to see a mainstream movie, we know that the female lead character is going to be hot, it's a cliche we've seen hundreds of time. And yet our brains doesn't care and we're still attracted. Actually it's funny that if they decided to cast an unattractive actor for an important role, to spice it up, people would not appreciate it and complain. I remember that when they casted Adam Driver for Kylo Ren people complained lol. Thank you Evolution, you're so sweet and funny | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 03:30 AM |
| 13 | Since most women lose sexual interest in their long term partners, what incentive do men have to settle down with and marry women?you may joke about it, but the issue is real for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 03:10 AM |
| 4 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.they varied for women, not so much for men. Besides, male beauty standards started to become a thing in the last century, for most of history men didn't need beauty that much to have sex, they needed power or money. They started to matter only when women became free to choose and explore their sexuality | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 03:08 AM |
| 19 | Since most women lose sexual interest in their long term partners, what incentive do men have to settle down with and marry women?Most men can't get casual sex, many need to settle into a marriage or a relationship if they want to have non paid sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Men and women value relationships the same, but the libido gap causes the confusionpigs are flying and women are turned on by average men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 02:51 AM |
| 2 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.Thanks. yeah I agree, the only thing I can concede is that if everyone was a Chad women wouldn't treat all of us the same way they treat Chad today, because Chad would lose the standing out privilege. I still believe that everyone would be treated like a Chadlite or HTN at worst, which is still huge improvement obv. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 02:48 AM |
| 5 | Apparently "body positivity" only applies to women:First of all I said that you should be somewhat honest ONLY if you are asked to, it's obviously rude to make beauty judgments without consent. What you fail to see it's that those unchangeable features influence your life negatively if you had a bad genetic deal, it's uncomfortable to accept but you can't just ignore the problem and hope it disappears. This issue doesn't disappear, even if noone talks about it (which is irrealistic btw) because unfortunately Nature has decided that sex and intim… | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 02:41 AM |
| 7 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.I literally can't understand how you and others can believe it. Beauty is not like money, it's mostly objective and defined by Nature. Attractive people are not attractive just because they stand out from the others, they are because they possess certain features that make them attractive. In fact newborns can recognize attractive people without previous knowledge, it's ingrained in our brains. As for height I'd argue its importance is half objective and half standing out, but still I believe th… | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Men and women value relationships the same, but the libido gap causes the confusionThey don't show it because they are actually turned off most times. They need to meet a man they find hot to turn on and express this behaviour. Unfortunately, most men are not hot in their eyes and thus they reserve this behaviour only for an elected few | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Men and women value relationships the same, but the libido gap causes the confusionI agree but an uggo is still going to consider the average man unattractive most times, I think some give chances because they are too sexually and emotionally starved tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 02:01 AM |
| 3 | Men and women value relationships the same, but the libido gap causes the confusionThey're waiting for the "right one". Women are most always turned off sexually, but let me tell you that when they meet a good looking man they become crazier than men. We don't see this often because the average man is not attractive enough to turn them on unfortunately | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 01:56 AM |
| 3 | Apparently "body positivity" only applies to women:Telling someone they're ugly is useless In most cases it doesn't but if they asked at least tell them they're not conventionally good looking, don't gaslight. People worrying about it so much are what make it seem like such a big deal. You're delusional, humans are visual creatures, if someone doesn't meet the standard he's mostly ignored socially and sexually and if he's ugly he is going to get bullied. This are issues because they reflect in the well being of individuals, there are people that… | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 01:39 AM |
| 4 | The wall does not existI think that the wall exists, it's when most attractive men (=men with options) cease to find you interesting. But yeah, you'll always find someone desperate enough that wants to have sex. Your experiment basically shows us that even a granny has more options than an average guy lool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 01:32 AM |
| 2 | another proof both biology and racepill is cope and that sexual preferences of both women and men are heavily dependant on what society tells them:depends on what do you think a ''nerdy truecel'' is, but i think girls can be programmed to like nerds and honestly it's much less of a failo owadays to like nerdy things. you're delusional. Being open towards ugly guys is not a preference matter, ugliness trascends all, it's literally Nature and Evolution telling you "don't have sex with this person" | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 01:09 AM |
| 3 | Apparently "body positivity" only applies to women:Yeah let's just pretend that the problem doesn't exist right | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 01:03 AM |
| 3 | Apparently "body positivity" only applies to women:Do you understand that not saying the uncomfortable truth when asked doesn't make a favour to the ugly person and only leads to a global faking that there is no problem. Look at the hypocrite blindness of our world, society acts like ugliness doesn't exist and everyone is fine and yet ugly/unattractive people exist and they often struggle with their life in a world that tries to fake that there is no problem and attacks them if they try to complain Telling to someone that he's ugly is rude (unle… | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 12:56 AM |
| 8 | If white people don't want to go extinct, they need to hurry up and develop CRSPR or gene editing.I hope it soon appears some private company that lets people to edit the DNA of fetuses to make them grow tall and good looking, I don't think phenotype is completely changeable tho. Btw I hope it really happens soon just to see society and medias finally addressing directly the lookism/blackpill issue. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/03/23 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)If a woman had good chemistry with a good looking guy it could happen that she needs another good looking one to experience it again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)okay my bad, didn't expect that. Then just replace the drunk ons with a sexual experience with a hot guy she had a crush on. The focus of my previous comment was never the ons in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)okay so what? even for the other 2 women that never had a ons it's likely that they experienced good sexual chemistry with someone at least once | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)Imo you are too optimistic. Many husbands were never considered hot, neither at the beginning. They are just settling material. If a wife could change the appearance of her "normie" husband and make him look like the hot guy she had a crush on in her 20s, she would. But alas, we are stuck in the bodies our DNA chose for us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)can we really be sure that normal people move on and that the ones who don't are just a minority? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Sure there would be a beauty "inflation" but still no one would be considered unattractive, everyone would be nice looking at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:29 PM |
| 1 | How are short man supposed to date?Play numbers game extensively, abuse money or status if you have them and if you don't mind women being attracted to your qualities instead of you as a person. Also try to accept that you might never find someone that truly loves you even if you want. Controversial option: research into surgeries to become taller, careful though cause they're dangerous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)it doesn't have to be necessarely a guy she had a ons with while drunk. If she had an hot jock bf or fwb in her 20s I bet nothing can replicate sex with a guy like that, unless there were d**c or emotional issues but this is another matter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Nah, Hollywood mostly pushes what people likes to see. I can understand that some variations to the ideal standard exist in some part of the world, but I consider western standards the most ideal one. I say this because they have existed for many centuries, we are the first ones to let women free to choose (very important imo) and, coincidentally, also other countries tend to idealize western standards. Like for example, look at japanese video game characters, they mostly have western eyes and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Imagine it exists a DNA modifier that acts at cellular level and is capable of modify the bones structure Btw I've lurked on looksmaxxing forums and read that midface and ipd are a bit changable with some invasive surgeries | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 03:51 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)But I bet that she felt more chemistry and raw attraction with the guy she fucked while drunk. Her loyal and supportive average looking husband could never replicate that feeling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:52 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)It's hard to imagine that an average man, who has had few sexual experiences and is emotionally immature, wants to commit. It's more likely he has to brainwash himself into thinking he wants to commit because deep down he knows it's the only way to have sex Maybe if he had had more sexual experiences and more options, he would have grown enough to genuinely want to commit without forcing himself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)Most men want to feel the validation of having sex with a woman that lusts for you, what's wrong in this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)idk if it's true. Attraction is irrational after all and if somehow the brain remains "stuck" on a higher level of beauty it might be impossible to feel genuine attraction again if the brain constantly makes comparisons, maybe you really need to find another man on the same level of beauty, or higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the concept of an "Alpha Widow" is valid? (i.e. As an average man, it's fair to assume that a woman with a high body count has been with someone who is more attractive than you and this will make her value you less.)Yes I think it's true, but if you are somehow "her type" and she genuinely finds you physically attractive then it's sexual chemistry that could be the issue, in case she had more sexual chemistry with a previous man. But in general the concept still applies because women tend to feel more chemistry the more they find the man physically attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:33 AM |
| 6 | Why are truecels so bluepilledWhat you call bad or evil is simply an opportunistic behaviour that attractive people can have because they have leverage. They're not worse than anybody else, since most people would behave opportunistically if they could. If anything I'd say that ugly people are probably more evil (on average) because when society treats you badly it's more likely that you end up hating other people. After all, it's not popular attractive kids that become school shooters | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/03/23 02:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Being the guy who shes obsessed with because you treat her as disposable ALWAYS comes with the double edge sword of you don’t actually want her, despite her being “hot”Yeah, but the situation you're describing probably means that the other guy is hot and you are not. He has been unlucky with this particular woman, but he's still going to have a more fulfilled sexual life than you overall. As cynical as it sounds I'm basically saying that it still makes sense to envy them because they have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Weak men had it just as bad as women in ancient/industrial timesI'll be cynical: I think that the high child mortality assured that the most weak died and that the ones who lived to surpass adolescence were fit enough to be worthy for society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences.Let's not talk about the fact that what you're saying is dehumanizing and discriminatory, because unfortunately you're right, it's a competition. What I want to make women understand is that the most important aspects of being attractive for men are being tall and having a good looking face. How are average men with average height and plain faces going to perform in this "competitive sexual game"? Building muscles only increases your physical attractiveness only a bit and money is going to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Unless everyone looked exactly the same they could still be compared in terms of looks Doesn't matter. Brad Pitt for example is more attractive than most of other actors and yet other actors are still considered attractive. Beauty is not that much a matter of comparison, it's more a matter of reaching an "objective" threshold, if you do you're conventionally good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?No wtf, if a good looking men walks into a bar a few women would actually hit on him, which alone is enough to be a huge privilege. However most of them would still feel a inner genuine feeling of interest towards him, thus if he tried to flirt with one he wouldn't be viewed as creepy and his chance to have sex with her would be huge compared to an average man. This is the privilege of attractive men, they have most door opened because of their looks = they have options. They don't make women we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:46 PM |
| – | CMV : Women are so militant and unforgiving with guys they're dating because they’re almost 100 percent confident “their perfect man” is waiting for them in the futurethe best to way to minimize the incel rate is making everyone a "Chad" Women don't only judge men relative to one another. There are absolute elements at play as well Yeak I know, I'm blackpilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?How can you say that the normal would go up?? It's not like jawlines can be any shape or size, what is currently recognized as a strong jawline is already ideal, same goes for eye shapes and cheekbones for example. If everyone had what is currently calld a strong jawline, there wouldn't be a better looking one you get me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Dude you're really delusional, where do you live lol? In western countries being hot is enough to have easy access to sex. Obviously is not like you can act like a autist or be extremely introvert and still get laid, I hope you were not expecting such types of clarifications | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:23 PM |
| 3 | Being sexually satisfied in todays society is EASYbecause jacking off is the same as sex right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Why are truecels so bluepilledI bet they are not attractive tho. I mean you don't need to be a truecel to struggle sexually, you can be around average looking and easily be an incel imo | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/03/23 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Are western women really oblivious about men's looks?I can tell you that the most honest way would be to say "I'm not into your looks" but I guess it might be too much brutal. But the most important aspect imo is that women should be more open and cynical in general when describing men's looks, even in front of men. just don't be an asshole if you reject someone face to face and try to balance honesty with niceness. For example what is the point of subreddits such as this one if women continue to repeat the same mantra "looks are not everything, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Sorry but this is a massive cope. I know guys that are conventionally good looking, they don't need anything more to have casual sex with average/cute girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:57 PM |
| 3 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?No, it doesn't work this way. Most aspects of attractiveness are based on functional and healthy stuff. I don't know if I'm allowed to get into detalis but for example a strong jawline implies breathing, defensive and chewing benefits. Strong jawlines won't cease to be viewed as attractive just because everyone has one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Don't agree. There is an ideal height and I think that being taller than that is detrimental to the overall aesthetic, I think this height is around 6"1 btw. As for money and status yeah they'd be more important, but they still won't deny the genuine attraction that women would have for good looking men. Besides, only a really small % of men will ever have money or status, so the dating market overall will be quite balanced for average men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?Honestly I don't believe it and besides, once you reach a certain height increasing it would only be detrimental to the overall aesthetic. Meaning that if 190 cm is the ideal aesthetic height the standard wouldn't rise more than that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?I don't agree, some beauty standards are basically objective. if someone could achieve these standards they would be percieved as attractive by other people. Attraction is irrational after all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?I don't agree, physical attraction is stronger than money and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:06 PM |
| 2 | The disgust some men feel towards promiscuous women is not biologically inherent and we should aid men to handle their insecurities not bathe in themOkay I get you, but consider that the mainstream culture of many countries always considered the purity of a woman one of the biggest value. It' something that is ingrained inside us, just like it's ingrained inside of women to find a weak man unattractive. Besides, the ick feeling is there and this much you can't deny. I advice you women to respect it at least, unless it becomes something extremely toxic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics?And I don't think we'll ever get to the point where cosmetic surgery can make an average person a 10/10, as there are underlying deficiencies with bone shape/structure. Okay but I asked you to assume it could | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:59 PM |
| 7 | The disgust some men feel towards promiscuous women is not biologically inherent and we should aid men to handle their insecurities not bathe in themLol you wish, this post is a farce. Men do have a natural "ick" about it, don't try to make it seem only something cultural. However I think that some Redpillers exaggerate it and make it seem like it's the worst sin. It's not, but it's still an ick for most men. Some will consider it a deal breaker and others won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Are western women really oblivious about men's looks?Yeah I get you, but imo in the dating world misconceptions stems from women not saying (or accepting) what they want. Men that talk about game do it because women made them think it's something that works effectively. The reason is that men are relatively easy to get (lol), women are hard thus everything kinda revolves around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Why are truecels so bluepilledDude, you're delusional and you make it seem like you hate attractive people because they are attractive. You can be blackpilled, depressed, jealous of attractive men AND also neutral towards them you know? | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/03/23 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Never experiencing love, romance, and intimacy is emotionally, psychologically, and physically extremely painful and bad for your health on all levelsTotally agree 100%. Now let's see how many minutes pass before the post gets removed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they canOkay but there needs to be mutual physical attraction in the first place, only then you can establish interaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Are western women really oblivious about men's looks?Even if they are not everything there's still the issue that you have to be attracted to someone physically before you consider being intimate with the person, this is the elephant in the room. Many men don't want to accept that they struggle because they're not attractive enough to be a ladies man, IMO if women were more honest with men and society then maybe we could address this issue directly instead of all this colored pills talk and gaslighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:16 PM |
| – | The current dating situation is the result of women's free sexualityI get what you're saying but there is no easy solution for this. We can't restrict women and force them to give a chance to unattractive or creepy men if they don't want to. In my opinion the true solution is to genetically engineer people to be attractive, in order to let everyone have genuine sex without having to force people. Or another controversial solution would be to improve cosmetic surgery to let people become good looking. Ah that may be it. You don't care that incels are the cost. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 07:56 PM |
| 7 | Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences.Yes, I literally said this implicitly in my comment to the post. In my opinion physical attraction is one of the biggest green flags, and it's also the biggest aspect of a healthy relationship, as long as it's mutual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 07:44 PM |
| 9 | Men should stop trying to rationalize and justify their body count preferences.But not every man is tall, good looking and runs his own business. How do you we solve this? You could argue that in this case many women would prefer to stay single and many men will stay sexless, but I hope you see it's not a good solution | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they canYou didn't understand my previous comment. most men want a woman that is attracted to them, they don't want a woman that doesn't like them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 07:37 PM |
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