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I think there's a difference in how males and females gain experience to get calibrated. While females generally are able to get a sense of who they can afford to be with by just existing (who approaches with sexual interest/long-term interest), males have to approach both upwards and downwards of their own desirability to get a sense of who their match could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:55 AM
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This is actually what matchmakers ask their clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:46 AM
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Usually as you experience more relationships, you learn how to manage your emotions better, balance relationship and your life better and have more realistic boundaries/expectations (they could either get higher or lower). I don't stress out about the same things that I did when I was younger, so those emotions I feel are quite a bit less intense. I know what I would do in more situations. Earlier relationships could be more like a rollercoaster of emotions due to that reason imo. But when it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:04 PM
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There's women who are really into musicians. Me being one of them. I've had at least a little crush on basically all of my half decent musician friends. Can't explain why. My boyfriend plays the piano and I think he is hot even when he cuts his fingernails cause it reminds me of him playing the piano.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:03 AM
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I very happily got together with a guy I went out with in high school a decade later. That proved to me that my taste in guys has barely changed over that time. I never was in some kind of fling and was always able to find someone I liked among the guys who were interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:02 AM
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I advise people to date who they know. They could either agree or disagree with me, but I find that it's pretty much the only way to vet if they do want to vet that is. If not, you either don't know the person or assume things about the person while dating the person. You have an issue with people who assume the worst about the person. I am saying I have issues with trying to date strangers as a whole. I think online dating is only for people who don't care for vetting, or are naive, or think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:56 AM
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I think this is something that stemmed from people attempting to date strangers. This is not how dating used to work at all. When people used to date within their communities, even if they didn't know the person directly, it was usually pretty easy to figure out someone's reputation. Also, when people had to live within the boundaries of a single community, people kinda had to care a bit more about their own reputation, and that too could have impacted their own actions. Before, it was easier to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:30 AM
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Conservative women are supposed to value what her family values. My boyfriend who had a relatively conservative upbringing asked me what my father values in a guy probably on our first date since that’s really important. Conservative households differ from family to family, but generally the guy has to be on par with the girl’s father or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:28 AM
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So here's a part of the redpill that you seem to be forgetting when I read your post and comments. Dread game is a thing, because people often get too comfortable. It is based on the assumption that the person needs to reminded or threatened of their position. A lot of people can very well hide their true selves until they think they have gotten what they want, so you just keep reminding them that they actually haven't fully secured what they want. People often say this is not a healthy way to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:48 PM
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This really depends. I tend to think men are more prone to oneitis for some reason. Not all Chads want Becky harems either so it really comes down to which Chad. If the Chad has oneitis, which they quite often do, the power goes to his oneitis. I know no Stacy in my family that thought men were something to win over... but that's anecdotal. Men chase and they choose. We have generations of actual models and model/top celebrity tier women in the family btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:19 PM
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Probably not. It isn't even about me having sky high standards, but just no longer having the energy to really take new chances. Maybe it isn't much, but I was completely single for almost a year before my boyfriend who was pre-vetted from my high school days miraculously showed up. I was done with dating to the point that I just told my mom to bring me the arranged marriage requests my family has for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:53 PM
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Exactly why I think the only way to properly vet is to go for people with plenty of options. Power reveals who the person is. Also, it is as if PPD hasn't heard of complacency which is way too common unfortunately. Things aren't that simple. Sometimes, just going for people who have enough leverage in the market to be transparent yields results in a more efficient manner than someone who would be hiding it for months. But of course, I do believe women/men have to measure up to the people they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:58 PM
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You are talking to a wall here. You still have access to the real world. People who primarily live online live in an alternate universe from you. My boyfriend has a 17 year old brother. The kid and his friends make fun of red pill apparently, and think it is something for weird losers. Don't lose your social circle or your connection to the real world. You might find yourself amongst the leftovers of the dating scene if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:43 PM
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Happy bday cauli :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:41 AM
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Women just are more passive in nature in a general sense. It is not just with approaching guys, but many of them speak in codes or not explicitly or just want others to get it. I asked my boyfriend out and he too is freaking passive. I don't mind that he didn't approach, but his passivity is quite something. He is stereotypically feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:28 AM
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Relatives are just more likely to have more access and opportunity to abuse the kid. The moral of the OP seems to be don't let your guard down ever or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 05:09 AM
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you were anticipating that they were going to approach I wasn't at all. I was PERFECTLY fine with them remaining my friends. you didn't want to ruin the friendship is cope Never suggested one or the other. I just was fine with not dating them. "he is a man, he should approach, otherwise, I am going to lose the upper hand" Again, the upper hand does not exist. That's some really pathetic belief that stems from thinking these men do not have self-respect. You chickened out and don't want to admit …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:25 PM
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That’s a pathetic assumption. If both parties have self-respect, there’s no real upper hand no matter who approaches first. And why would I be awful to someone especially the one I really like? I just was good with having them as my friends. And no, those crushes were far from Chads, and it was even confirmed by two non-bluepilled PPD guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:20 PM
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I don't think her thinking the guy is not interested is as critical. "Oh wow" is a hard fall. I looked up the guys I fell hard for like a decade later too. Like how Chad supposedly can do anything, after that "oh wow" moment, the window can even be semi-permanent. They could have pursued me a decade after, and I still might have said yes. The problematic part I think is that women often hide these thing, and men may never know. Personally, I think I hid the spark damn well. I probably would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:53 PM
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What u/OMWSpuds said. But that being said, even if the guy is a bit out of shape, I would always choose face over body. I am fine as long as the body is within a reasonable range imv. The range doesn't include super skinny, but it includes slightly overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:43 PM
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So I've been thinking about warm approaches for a bit, and I think I agree with an ex-PPD member. He told me the timing to approach a woman is once you see a sparkle in her eye or something when dealing with you, not before. There can be times when a guy goes from neutral to "oh wow". Guys here seem to believe the "oh wow" can disappear very easily, but I actually think that's when you "give it a chance" at a neutral stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:11 PM
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Join an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:13 PM
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I think there's two possible alternative explanations. You either meet or do not meet the looks thresholds depending on your body fat. I probably only feel responsive desire (minus towards musicians who I can be interested in going on dates right away, not have sex), but I certainly do have looks thresholds. You are mostly dealing with women who do feel spontaneous desire so you project their attraction onto other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:36 PM
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The latter balances me out better even though it is less comfortable. Honestly, although my case is a bit more severe than others, dating someone like me wasn't going to lead anywhere. Many of us need someone to make us care more about things we wouldn't care about if we were by ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:07 PM
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Well I don’t really see it as just complacency. Neither of us put our relationship front and center and we both had pretty busy careers at the time. And we just understood what came first to us, and we both would find it understandable. So it was somewhat like an open relationship in the sense that we were both alright with less conventionally accepted relationship practices. Imagine if you forgot the bday of a woman you are dating. The topic would likely be revisited forever or you could even g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:05 PM
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I’ve dated both. Too similar to me was comfortable but neither of us felt compelled to really focus on the relationship enough cause neither of us really needed to feel cared for and we both understood it too well. There was one year when we forgot each other’s bdays. Now on the other hand, I am dating a guy very different from myself, and I know I would never hear the end of it if I missed his bday, so I do put in more care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:51 PM
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Men tend to like hyper masculine looks in men, but women don’t feel similarly then it is male gaze. Women may like a bit more androgynous looks in men, and a lot of men may not get it. Then it is female gaze. Height is not a female gaze cause even guys recognize tall guys in a positive manner. Not that they are sexually attracted to the tall guy, but they acknowledge his height being impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:40 PM
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I’ve never dated a guy with a “good physique” although I’ve never dated an obese guy either. I’ve always been the fit one in almost every relationship. I’ve dated from 5’7 and 6’4. Anyone outside of the range, I am not interested in. So far, nothing too crazy, but I do require quite a bit more when it comes to face unless the guy is a musician. I’m generally not attracted to average faces at all, but I’ve had a small crush on every half decent musician friend I have. Basically be good looking in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:33 PM
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You can have sex with someone without being obligated to marry them. You can have sex with someone bevause you like them, not knowing if its going to be for ever as long as no prgnancy is involved you protect yourself from diseases. I am not okay with hormonal birth control as they carry their own health risks. So there's no real safe way to protect against pregnancy 100% even if someone is to take the modern sex positivity pill which I did not take. I ultimately think my personal pleasure is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:55 PM
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Options based on a lie are not real options. Yeah I think so too. If men only want a woman for sex, those are not the woman's options. To me someone who cares about marriage too much is a redflag Yeah, you are free to think that. I am with a guy who thinks even entertaining a date without wanting to marry the woman is degenerate. He thinks I could be more reserved cause I did go out on dates rather casually compared to him. I think this stance of his is a bit nuts, and you are also free to think…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:12 PM
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Who is desirable in the market doesnt mean anything. It does. It gives people more options, and often more quality options too. Not ratio-wise, but just number-wise. It is on the desirable ones to vet through them, and choose what kind of combination of traits you want amongst the quality options. This applies to both men and women. Personally i cant marry someone if i dont know if shes any good in bed. That's you. And I don't date guys like that. They get their options to choose from, and well …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:33 PM
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Different men do different things. Desirable men could even discard the woman they found perfectly fine when she grows old. With women who were beside them at their lowest, they could even discard for their desirability levels not matching up anymore. Some men want a main chick and many side chicks and so on. The thing is, regardless of gender, when people are desirable, they have a lot of people “line up” and among those exist quite a few desirable ones too. If the woman does not have multiple …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:01 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/mDqczCremJ There’s desirable men who have principles. Women need to measure up in desirability to be with those guys though. Some people meet after they become desirable. My dad knew he would have had no chance with my mom if he wasn’t already set up for success, and he didn’t really have an issue with the fact. People will generally choose whatever or whoever is more appealing to them given their options. My dad wanted one woman he found more than wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:16 PM
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I think it heavily depends on whether the guy has a regular co-ed social group or not. And it happens so that more people are more isolated these days than before. My boyfriend said his single friends only hang out with their own gender, and that’s the difference between them and his partnered up friends. He finds that there’s no other noticeable difference among his friends at least. Dating is harder for men when the man is either neurotic or overly passive or both. I think that’s the issue of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:10 PM
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Excess attractiveness is just an excess. And bending over backwards to date anyone is... uh... yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:51 AM
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I don't think you understood what I've written. I don't. I vet by seeing what men do when they are desirable, and I date men that I already know. The desirable ones are given the chance to prove themselves to me by showing they have principles, cause they have options they can act upon. The less desirable ones don't even have a chance to showcase their principles. I have a few desirable friends that I would not touch with a ten foot pole dating wise cause what they've shown me they are not suita…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:30 PM
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Sex inherently is a biological act for reproduction. We are generally coded for the fittest to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:04 PM
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What I call the leftover market. And I think OLD is more prone to the same drawbacks of the leftover market that I essentially think of OLD as the leftover market.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:15 PM
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I believe some men are polygamous. That's actually exactly why I think it is better to go for men with options. I get to know how they act GIVEN the options. Of course, the woman has to measure up to the guy to even attempt that. Power reveals who the person is, and I prefer knowing who the person is. Like how some PPD peeps said people who lose weight are preparing to leave their current partner, or may monkey branch to the next partner. With fat people, you have less of a guarantee of what cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:38 PM
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ChatGPT fixed the paragraph issue for you. Do most women know that men are polygamous? When a man is either, rich, famous or good looking (above average) they all lean towards polygamy. In other words, they are as faithful as their options. Examples of men like these are celebrities, kings, emperors, influencers, CEOs. Some exceptions may exist, but they are very few and almost can be overlooked. Those who seem to be monogamous are either average or below average looking and they are not rich or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:26 PM
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Long faced females 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:59 PM
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I just keep and use the old scoop until the new scoop reveals itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:25 AM
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There's women men begrudgingly take for easy access to sex, not that they induce desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:03 PM
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Honestly, if one is desirable enough, it is more than possible to fish a league down or so and still be attracted to your partner. Then you get to optimize for more traits that you want in a person. Not everyone has to pick the most superficially desirable person to still be attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:47 PM
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There’s me and my bf. It was quite difficult for us to get into a relationship with other people due to our less conventional values in the West. Some cultural values aren’t completely rational, but can be still ingrained in us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:47 PM
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I live in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:32 PM
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I'm from some place in Asia. I don't disclose it publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:40 PM
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In my culture, successful women get points deducted in the matchmaking system apparently. I was also told by a guy who was pursuing me that I shouldn’t study as hard cause that’s hard for guys to deal with. HE was pursuing ME. There was also a guy outside of my culture who tried to put down my achievements and inflate his own. I actually think it is quite common for men to impress the woman, but some of them try to do that in such stupid ways or they just haven’t learned how to deal with their i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:25 PM
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lol a good number of men chase top women and continue to simp for top women even during their marriage. many women hate my mom and my aunts for it. men getting with a woman out of convenience is not virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:44 PM
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Maybe tell him money could be the only thing on your mind during your wedding and that you might not be a happy bride if you spent too much on your wedding. Try to find a budget that you'd both be okay with and consider less conventional options. I told my boyfriend that I cannot be a happy bride without my dad being there, so we will most likely not have a wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:18 PM
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To preface, I am not advocating for men to make the first move at all times, but I am only trying to explain potential contributing factors. Women are more passive in nature. When they "approach", they tend to show IOI's, not actually make a direct approach. I think this may have something to do with their risk averseness which we could potentially attribute to women's higher neuroticism in general. Apparently when women do initiate, they tend to have high assertiveness (which is said to be a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:35 PM
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Wouldn't it make the most sense for you to look at the ones that have the kind of success you want? If you want hook ups and FWB, that's the crowd you should be focusing on. If you want relationships, look at the ones desirable relationship oriented women go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:56 PM
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I’ve always been clinically underweight but went from just slim to more toned. I’ve also always been fatphobic but before I didn’t care if men actively worked out. I still don’t require a finished body, but he needs to be willing to take fitness seriously. I doubt my physical standards changed much. I got back together with someone from my high school days. He was borderline overweight at the time we got back together, but he is now getting fit. He was not muscular but fit from being active back…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:20 PM
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Not wishing upon a star that the person is a good one. But instead, making sure beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:15 PM
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A lot of people don't seem to know what choosing better entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:22 PM
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So here’s the thing. I said earlier that I believe people are more likely show their true selves when the stakes are low, and when it is not in short periods of time. Cold approaching creates the exact scenario for the person to potentially hide oneself. We can either vet for personality or go for excellent surface level traits first. I think it is easier to go from personality to surface level traits than the other way around. One needs to figure out what they are going for, and the best way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:31 AM
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Nah. I think that’s how men and women end up complaining so much about the other gender. They are sticking their (hypothetical) dick in crazy before vetting cause what’s on the outside is appealing. I take vetting very seriously. I can wait and did wait until I was convinced it could work until I even considered dating someone. The downside is that you can’t realistically get to know too many people well enough, so using this approach limits your dating pool significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:53 PM
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Yeah and I didn’t really have difficulties being attracted to enough men within my social circle. People who meet my looksbar aren’t rare to the point that I need to wish upon a star that a good looking stranger would somehow turn out to be a virtuous person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:50 PM
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Looks not being the only criteria is what I am saying. I think people tend to show their truer selves when they don’t desire anything in particular, basically when the stakes are low. And it is rather easy to control oneself for short periods of time, so I don’t believe in casually dating to vet the guy. If I only selected for looks and just allowed anything to come at me, honestly I think I would have to bear responsibility for those results. I don’t think I am THAT selective in looks btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:40 PM
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I don’t mind asking a guy out on a date, but I don’t believe in cold approaching. I don’t think the idea of vetting a stranger well is very realistic. If you could also guarantee that I would somehow be able to learn about him instantly, sure. What you listed above is too surface level, so that could be possible, but I also have to look at one’s character. Choosing better is almost only possible with warm approaches imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:20 PM
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When you divide up the bell curve (normal distribution using bounded range normalized percentile, instead of the standard cumulative) by the horizontal distance (let's say the horizontal axis goes from 0 to 10 like how Reddit often likes to rate), and if you calculate the aggregate area (percentile) of the curve in 0.5 increments, we get the below table. x Normalized Percentile (%) 0.0 0.00 0.5 0.21 1.0 0.69 1.5 1.66 2.0 3.47 2.5 6.56 3.0 11.40 3.5 18.32 4.0 27.36 4.5 38.18 5.0 50.00 5.5 61.82 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:15 PM
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I learned to communicate and not dump. I also got better at vetting which means I am not necessarily better at being in relationships, but knowing which relationships are more likely to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:46 AM
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Damn, you got this all down. That's impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:17 AM
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I hate these scales because there is no reference point or percentile as to what the values mean. I agree with you 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:51 PM
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That's hilarious. My culture is the same, and so is my boyfriend's. I don't particularly like my family name, but I still am keeping it cause of my cultural beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:15 PM
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I think we are able to show our morality when it is challenged, not when things are easy. One doesn't get to claim virtue like that. I think we are told that we are good so much that we come to see our actions as good when we have never proved our goodness. We ended up justifying ourselves so much that self-centeredness is now seen as moral by many.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:59 PM
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I don't really care what other people do. I think it is kinda weird to care so much about what other people are up to. There's enough people who take the husband's name, and there's enough people who don't for various reasons. The ones who adopt their husband's last name could want the whole family to have the last name, want to be a part of man's life, husband wants it and they don't want to just not disrupt the peace, just don't care enough to challenge the norms or whatever their reason is, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:42 PM
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Yeah and I heard trans people who were injected testosterone report a crazy increase in their libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:17 PM
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Your comment reminded me of the below. You can read the whole thread here. Sex differences in attractiveness is a feature of sexually dimorphic species. Sexual dimorphism - physical differences across the two sexes - makes males and females of a given species look very different. Few would dispute the male peacock is more beautiful than the female. In most cases it seems to be the male. But occasionally females are more beautiful. In the redback spider: Female - big, round, bright red abdomen. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:10 PM
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I think it is fair to argue that morality could also be about standing by one's words even at the cost of oneself. Just because more people have come to prioritize themselves, the morality of it doesn't really change. Normalization is only normalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:56 PM
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Well if you have the curls, don't cut those curls off lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:52 PM
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Just more regular salon visits and he gets his hair permed. Mid length on a guy requires more salon visits to not look like a hobo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:48 PM
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I like mid length hair on my boyfriend but dang, his hair costs more than mine to maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:38 PM
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Wedding vows are phony to the ones who don’t uphold them. There’s still people who are serious about their vows.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:00 PM
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Ummmmmm... What do we usually say about the common denominator?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:57 AM
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I forgot their names but they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:55 PM
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I think I give pretty privilege. I like pretty things. I find myself to be a bit more receptive in terms of non-sexual communication with attractive individuals. Pretty does draw people in imv. But if it turns flirty, now that's a problem. I do not enjoy it nor engage further. My phone's lock screen is a picture of my couple for more practical reasons. I am not going to call my boyfriend the best looking person I've seen ever. However, I am plenty attracted to him. Like the degree of attractiven…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:37 PM
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Are we assuming they have academic intelligence? I have rarely seen people who are able to analyze literature here or have critical thinking skills. It is usually just average people who are feeding their own confirmation bias whichever side they are on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:54 PM
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Good people are able to see the good in others imo. I doubt if one thinks I'm the only good person, and everyone is shit is a good person. They must at least be able to realize there's good people, but it is just that they are not one of the lucky few to have locked one of the good ones down, rather than to shit on everyone. Also, I said here a couple times that one needs to be able to give the benefit of the doubt in order to be in a good relationship, and excessive jadedness rather it be due t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:49 PM
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Stacy privilege does exist. It is just that female privileges does too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:26 PM
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Nah. There’s female privilege and there’s Stacy privilege. Female privilege does exist but so does Stacy privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:11 PM
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I think it is about not being tied down to a relationship and acting without in consideration of a relationship is acting with only oneself in mind... therefore is an act of "finding oneself"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:00 AM
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Eh just ignore the ones who complain. I got over the traits people might generally find attractive or unattractive about me about a decade ago. They should too. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:31 PM
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We are the opposite in so many ways. But also very similar in some others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:22 PM
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No minoxidil. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:17 PM
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I probably do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:55 PM
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Grieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:30 PM
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Kitty’s hair is not long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:10 PM
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People have asked me that on PPD before. Watch me spike his food with finasteride.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:10 PM
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I am such a weirdo. I once had a nightmare of my boyfriend losing his hair... and I have such an obsession with his hair that when I told my boyfriend that I had a silly nightmare, his first guess was it being about his hair. Last night, I had another similar dream but it was about his mom cutting off his hair (which she did in the past). I was fuming in my dream that it woke me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:03 PM
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I didn't think reuniting online counted as meeting online, but with the where have you met your partner stats, apparently my couple also belongs in the meeting online group. Cold approach isn't really a straight up wanna fuck, but more of approaching a stranger, having a small talk and getting her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:17 PM
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Well some claim that only Chads get action on OLD and Chads also get action through cold approach. Who approaches may be the question. A quick google search is telling me that around 10% of couples in the US meet via dating apps, not online, just dating apps. My couple too is actually belongs in the met via online statistics but we just happened to reunite when I reactivated my facebook account. It apparently still counts as meeting online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:37 AM
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Fair. I think I agree with you for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:19 PM
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Do you think most women can tell natty vs. steroid body apart? Do you think they care or do you think they just thirst over roided bodies? I am purely asking for what you think btw, cause you pointed out his steroids use.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:03 PM
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OLD is a cold approach in the sense that people are attempting to date complete strangers. A lot of people also seem to think that a lack of success on OLD is a form of rejection, not so different from ONLY the guy is interested in initiating an interaction. the female is usually just going about her business, and did not go out to meet anyone, whereas the pua is going out there just to cold approach The only difference is that people are able to assume there's a greater population of single peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:50 PM
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I try to leave a top level comment (when I think my perspective could bring some value) rather than to respond to each one of the comments. That PPD phase is over for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:50 PM
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Yeah you would never find me at clubs or hobby groups or cooking lessons or whatever. Nor on dating apps. I would not entertain cold approaches either. I pretty much only exist within my existing social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:39 AM
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No income tax for the rest of my life? Sign me up as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:47 PM
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This is too general. People have too different circumstances that I find it more helpful to talk to people who are in a similar standing and have found the success I am looking for. As a woman, I would not listen to lesbians nor gay men. I have found my mom's advice to be the most helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:49 PM
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I don’t constantly see hot girls with ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:57 PM
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I think OLD is a variation of cold approach. And in that sense, cold approach is more relevant than ever. But it ain’t really helping the dating sphere imo. I think it is so much easier for me to feel something for someone within my proximity and start dating, than to have a select pool of men I am trying to feel something towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:24 PM
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Yeah. My big cat was smarter as a kitten and knew what was food and what wasn't. This one attempted to steal my spicy soup yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:11 PM
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I have found a way to keep the lil kitty away from my food while eating. Every meal will be a candle lit meal now. I feel like a homo erectus that discovered fire. A wild beast being kept away from my food.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:58 PM
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Cause natty growth is too hard for them or they think steroid body looks similar enough or even think it looks better idk. The lack of v-taper is likely due to steroid use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:56 PM
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I’m pretty sure he uses steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:54 PM
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My boyfriend and I may be the exact opposite of you guys. We live on the other ends of the country, but neither of us are worried about fidelity issues. I think it can be fair to have the expectation of your partner to trust you, as it can be a fair expectation to want more verification. Honestly, my relationship would not work out at all if either of us required a lot of verification, and we do like that we trust each other to this degree. Other people may like that they could get that much ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:21 PM
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I was told that introverts need to be adopted by extroverted friends somehow and get dragged out of their houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:41 PM
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It is modelling. People who want to use their looks to make money tend to invest that way to get ahead or to stay relevant. And they might not have had one in a thousand face pre-surgery to begin with. But I tend to agree that the plastic trend is a bit much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:38 PM
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I thought it meant to help others vet you by being authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:34 AM
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5'9 isn't short. Complaining about height making oneself bitchless shouldn't be at 5'9, but actually short height can pose a significant disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:56 PM
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By the sounds of it, it sounds like you subscribe to No Pill. On this sub, when we talk about red pill, it is in relation to TRP, as stated in the subreddit's about section. The name Red Pill is a branding tactic. It builds identity and belonging through the illusion of insight. If you really feel that you are doing critical thinking and contextual analysis with no bias, no pill should suffice. To me, it seems like you attempting to hijack the already hijacked metaphor from The Matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:29 PM
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If the descriptive nature is too rigid and actually does not allow for honest exploration with multifactorial categorization, there’s no point in conducting studies. TRP rarely specifies conditions or scope which are required in research. Working with a predetermined set of beliefs as TRP calls it a framework, instead of a hypothesis to be tested and potentially falsified is the antithesis of genuine research. I like genuine inquiry, not ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:51 AM
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One big issue I have with TRP is that it relies on single factor analysis too often which does lead to overgeneralization and ends up sounding stupid. Multifactorial analysis or contextual design is needed, but nooo. I myself talk a lot in generalizations, and recognize the general female and male tendencies, but I refuse to associate myself with TRP due to its failure to use multifactorial analysis, when human behavior is multifactorial and would be more useful to use more categories. It probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:37 AM
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I've sent you some stuff via DM.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:54 AM
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You actually chose the most horrible niche for men. That niche market probably has one of the worst gender ratios.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:55 AM
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I asked for some hypotheses, cause the study itself does not provide any from what I remember. Kinda different from my own presumptions but yeah. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:59 AM
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Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person's own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men (statistically insignificant) - meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair. A partner's attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women (statistically insignificant) - meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive. https://www.business-standard.com/article…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:36 AM
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https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Earl-and-Grace-400x517.jpg Yeah he did
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:31 PM
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I think JBP could be more attractive than his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:01 PM
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I think the normalization of transitory relationships (i.e., situationships) could be the problem. It doesn't exactly directly make women delusional, but it changes the expectation of commitment that it could change the dating sphere. In my days too. I am not sure if it has changed or if it has, when it has changed. But hell, I am cautious even when guys in my league approach me, cause I know what they are capable of. Even when there's league parity, women have to make sure of the nature of thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:59 PM
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As a Zillennial, guys around me seem to be paired up for the most part. A complete hypothesis, but I think male calibration could be slower than female calibration partly due to women having to do nothing to be calibrated. Women are able to learn from the guys that approach her or don't approach her, and by the quality and intent of the interest. Men however have to approach both upwards and downwards with believable amount of effort and see the highest range they can attract. As the pursued gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:36 PM
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Yeah if your relationship was unstable at the time or you are only considering marriage due to an unexpected pregnancy, it is more than fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:14 AM
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A ring. No forever gf situation. Can’t be transitory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:44 AM
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The question is, can she lock him down with her money?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:25 AM
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I used to think that too when I was younger. As of right now, I tend to think that it does not increase a woman's attractiveness, but perhaps her feasibility as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:09 AM
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Yeah so it is about male/female nature, then without moralizing it, they just do what they think would be in their best interest. Apparently, RPW isn't pro-redpill men. They just believe in the same male/female nature stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:18 AM
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I think there needs to be a distinction. Women's money shouldn't dramatically increase her mate value that it gives her access to men she would not have had access to without the money. Some may be less inclined to eliminate men based on his income potential though. But some still may want a man who brings in just as much or more. I don't know how many women actually do have enough income to feel that they no longer feel the need for double income either. But yeah, I am of the opinion that money…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:12 AM
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You said an attractive female virgin, not just any virgin. There's more than enough not-unattractive not-unemployed men who display some sexual restraint and only have sex within very committed relationships for these women to choose from unless she is hellbent on finding another virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:49 PM
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What do you think could be the reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:27 PM
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I am of the opinion that maturity needs to be defined differently for each gender or even each person. To me, a big part of maturity is to round out your vices sufficiently to be compatible/tolerable with enough number of people. If a person has a trait that makes it difficult to get along with others, that trait may need to be worked on so that it manifests in a more acceptable form.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:01 PM
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Make your Ai be more concise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:48 PM
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I was at the store with two guy friends at the time, and one is a non-practicing Muslim immigrant and the other is a liberal. The immigrant guy is more like an old school liberal who is against labeling people (by gender or color or whatever) and putting people into little boxes which is very anti-pill. He is more or less a moderate now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:23 PM
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I think it is kinda social circle dependent. I have guy friends who think paying for oneself is the norm, then I also have guy friends who were surprised when I said I would pay for the beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:09 PM
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I think a good portion of the fun of making babies is to see the result of your combined love. I would actually be kinda disappointed if the kids only took after one parent and were not a mix of my couple. Many people use the baby face predictor cause they want to see the fruits of their love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:37 PM
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She is stupid for marrying a known cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:30 AM
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<image> Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:21 PM
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Awww you adopted my terminology!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:09 PM
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I was getting bored and this happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:41 PM
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He brought the redpillers and bluepillers together...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:38 PM
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Toast resides on ppd too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:09 PM
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u/PB-French-Toast-9641 are you thinking what I am thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:57 PM
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from 7 months ago
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:07 PM
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Participation being voluntary may throw off the stats quite a bit but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:03 PM
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I think it really depends on how one sees privileges. Food and shelter can be seen as privileges to some, and not to others. I know people who had to take care of their own family financially that other pursuits including education were a luxury and privilege to them. Some even have ill family members that the parents need to prioritize or parents having to be elsewhere for work that they are unable to grow up under the care of their own parents. I'm not originally from the West, so I feel that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:34 PM
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I'm of the opinion that there doesn't need to be a direct 1:1 comparable trait. Traits that make up SMV can be additive, deductive and eliminative and men and women may have completely different traits that go into calculation and in differing ratio. Ultimately, the final stack's percentile will determine the person's SMV percentile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:03 PM
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I am a meritocrat who is not very pro-Marxism. I think I would be considered a feminist since I believe in equality in opportunity, and people not being defined by their gender. Basically MLK’s “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character” but the female version of it but not character and more characteristics. I still do acknowledge the general differences of each gender,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:22 PM
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Idk such thing happens to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:24 AM
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I am assuming we are still talking about people who come from dysfunctional households. I think may have a bias that could be preventing you from seeing what women who come from dysfunction are like. The impact of dysfunctional childhood on women usually is that they often put themselves in harms way unable to break the cycle or just give up cause of their cynicism, not them being focused on the lack of gain. They often don't even know what gain looks like or that it is a possibility for them. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:42 PM
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but c’mon Your sister went through different boys like a lawnmower through grass... My anti-marriage female friends overwhelmingly come from families with issues. My best friend decided against having kids, cause she didn't want to pass down her trauma and she was sure her trauma would seep out of her. There's a girl my mom got to know when my mom was doing volunteer work for the less fortunate kids. My mom kept in touch with a few kids, and the girl has grown up. She doesn't know what love is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:53 PM
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I think people who say that usually mean warm approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:42 PM
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What’s the purpose of saying that to me? Did I ever claim such a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:40 PM
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You seem to be making a logical error. I am not suggesting anyone is more prone to confirmation bias. I am pointing out that there’s no point in feeling superior for watching if it is to feed one’s confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:58 AM
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Possible? Sure... But really really out of your control? Probably. I really do wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:18 AM
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Whatever negative traits that catches attention. Being actually noticeably short (not just below average, but below the average range), noticeably neurodivergent (I am unsure of if and by how much early support could help), noticeably ugly that he actually stands out from the crowd for being ugly. I have no words of comfort for them. I am not too sure about the adulting status of men who have difficulties attracting women, and I don't associate those two together. I just think everyone who can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:27 AM
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Depends. Let's assume this guy is adulting just fine. If a reasonable amount of men with similar set of traits are finding success, but the man is deep in victim mentality, yes. Basically if he complains about not being privileged, yes. If he has traits that really disadvantage him, that makes it highly unlikely for him to find success, I don't. That's just really unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:12 AM
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You will want to repost this on looks thread. It will prob get taken down. What I feel is pity, not disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:58 AM
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I don’t think you are very aware of the things I say on this sub. You may have picked the worst person to accuse that of. A lot of the studies conducted nowadays have an agenda. Reader discretion is more needed than ever. Social science is more prone to misapplied use of generalization either intentionally or unintentionally. The scientific process needs to define the scope and the conditions very carefully so that the findings would be replicable every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:54 PM
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No, science is supposed to apply nuance and be aware of its limitations. But a non-insignificant portion of science have become dogmatic due to the flaws in the ways research is conducted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:08 PM
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Are people watching without confirmation bias? And without black or white thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:56 PM
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I believe in leagues. And having access to a less politically correct and more conservative society, I just knew more I guess. I wish more people who identify with TRP would read actual literature and educate themselves though. If they are moralizing, they aren’t reading the right things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:03 AM
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We focus on raising legacy children, and that requires dedicated parenting. My boyfriend and I are getting our game plan ready too. We are going over trying to perfect what my parents utilized, reading up on the research ourselves, deciding who’s teaching what and when, familiarizing ourselves with the admissions process of the preschool we want to send our kids to, and etc. I had my parents wake up me up at 5 every single day even on the weekends and holidays and had me be productive to get me …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:57 AM
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Who do you think is an 8... would be the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:14 AM
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Women also prefer younger romantic partners, according to a major new psychology study But this study probably focuses on initial attraction, not formation of relationships. Due to women's shorter fertility window, women may choose men who more closely aligns in life stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:34 PM
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Went to a garden to take a walk together, had food with live piano with a questionable pianist, then went to a rooftop bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:53 PM
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There's more right wing men than right wing women, so I presume right wing women could very easily go for a right wing men, so it may not happen very much. I am probably center-right that prefers more moderate or center-left man I suppose, but I am not an extremist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:47 PM
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A woman who brought an amazing spinach dip to a party got herself an Asian girl tracking her down to get the recipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:39 PM
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It is supposed to be easy when you do the bare minimum. My mom had a professional job before she quit her work to look after me, and she thought of her role to be more than just keeping me alive. She tried to make sure I was doing the right things in each developmental stage. Even car rides were not the time to be wasted. Parenting is as hard or as easy as one makes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:44 PM
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Is it different than strangers politely smiling at each other as courtesy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:43 PM
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Such thing happens when they are insecure about their choices and often in themselves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:32 AM
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what one of the most wholesome people i know said <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:30 AM
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The list was more of a what's an absolute no for you rather than who's perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:00 AM
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With him, 19-21 BMI allegedly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:32 AM
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Merkel and Thatcher?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:14 PM
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I have some friends who are anti-marriage, and yeah they tend to have some level of trauma. Usually family related trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:29 PM
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Family vetting your man is not modern at all. And back in the day, people did pair up usually within their own community where everyone kinda already knew each other or knew of each other. If there's a person with red flags, everyone in the community knew about the person. Attempting to date strangers? Oof. I think that's either very naive or thinks of oneself as a mind reader. I hope people of both genders take as many precautions as possible when attempting to date strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:26 PM
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There's a lady who took care of me when I was young, and apparently the husband who is now an ex quit his job to study to get into med school. She supported him and their children for 14 years by working for a sushi place or something. I find it ridiculous that it took him 14 years to get into a med school too but moving on. Right after he got into a med school, he asked her for a divorce saying that he wants to pursue a relationship with his first love who came back into his life. I don't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:17 PM
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I actually want him to have flexibility so that I could pursue my ambitions. And ironically, I have already chosen and I like my personal jukebox.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:29 PM
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Exactly. 100% is very generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:16 PM
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You said something very similar like yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:02 PM
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Why are we assuming it drops to 100%, and not 60% (barely passing) or even 30% sometimes? I am not just talking about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:43 PM
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So what you are describing is the female equivalent of beta bux where she brings extra convenience for the lack of perceived value. Something like my life will revolve around my partner, cause that added convenience gives me an edge in the game. I think the truth is, the added convenience often doesn't mean as much as these people want it to regardless of gender. But yeah some people resort to it. I personally do not want my relationship to have such leveraged dynamics especially in favor of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:20 PM
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This is the looks thread rexx, not n-count. Wrong week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:14 PM
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It is possible. Just not that easy to vet with high certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:52 AM
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You are shifting the goalpost from the validity of opinion due to one’s own emotional and experience bias to what’s more commonly spoken or not which is not the topic of the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:52 AM
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Childbirth is what women are biologically required to go through if women want children of their own. It isn't really forced by men, but by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:54 AM
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I like to be covered up... But not like THAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:36 PM
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Used also in feminism movement cause it reflects feminist values too. Dismissing it for its wide use is misleading cause it is still used for a reason. It just is way too commonly used everywhere to be claimed by one activist. Don't conveniently leave out what Grimke said which absolutely reflects early feminist values. You are trying to avoid the truth of how the use of feminism was derailed by derailing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:33 PM
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I do think it is possible to change, but I think it is stupid to be with someone wishing the person to change. Change is hard, and not guaranteed. I too changed one major viewpoint (unrelated to the dating discourse). I am able to articulate why I thought otherwise, what made me change my mind, and what I think now. I think such viewpoints need to have a solid enough foundation to be unwavering, so that you would not revert back to your old viewpoint. You have to know that you would not flip aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:21 PM
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"Consequently I know nothing of man's rights, or woman's rights; human rights are all that I recognize." from Sarah Grimke who is thought to be the mother of the women's suffrage movement. Equality for all is a common slogan that's used in a nameless manner in many areas of equality related activism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:01 PM
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This is exactly what I mean. Feminism according to the Oxford dictionary is the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes. The basis of feminism is supposed to be the equality of the sexes. But it is increasingly seen and marketed as the advocacy of women's rights without the basis of the equality of the sexes, and that's why 83% support equality but not "feminism". Phrases like "equality for women" seems like just another PR tactic with potential misuse of the word, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:56 PM
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Yeah it seems like it is the female equivalent of beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:20 PM
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Overly ambitious people don't actually make the best partners for most people. That much ambition has to be met with that much flexibility. I alone have too much ambition so I need a flexible partner. I describe myself to be emotionally constipated and I chose a guy with much higher emotional intelligence than myself for the sake of the future child. I honestly thought I'd end up traumatizing my kid, and that wasn't going to be the worst thing in the world as long as the kid doesn't end up a los…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:16 PM
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I am talking about how the word was stolen. When 83% of people believe in equality, but not in feminism, we are observing how the perception of the word has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:53 PM
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Musicians are already way more popular than you seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:58 PM
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Do they not even have two brain cells to rub together? Just because abusive Chads get women and incels don't, it still doesn't mean all women would choose abusive Chads. A pool existing for abusive Chads is not the same as all women going for abusive Chads. Incels could be incels because they are not wanted by anyone. That part could be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:10 PM
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I think the word feminism has been stolen by some crazy activists who are trying to justify their viewpoints with a label that originally carried soundness and positive connotation. It is somewhat of their marketing tactic to talk down to others who don’t agree with them. Now the word has been tainted by the ones who don’t actually believe in equality but entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:44 PM
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Since when is that guy handsome? His facial symmetry is so off with his nose being crooked and his nostrils being really uneven. And his hairline…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:32 PM
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I say this only because you are likely to be able to apply this method. So if you are desirable enough that you can comfortably aim for almost anyone within your proximity, it is much better to use the irl circle method. OLD pool is not the best pool to be fishing in. Irl circle intentions and pre-vetting are heaps better. It is not really a numbers game trying out randoms when you have the desirability to pick and choose from everyone around you and potentially from the past too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:04 AM
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thanks. it's been alright. hope all is well with you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:34 AM
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hey dune
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:13 AM
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I don't like lankiness either, but the classic aesthetically ideal male physique like Michelangelo's David tends to occur the most frequently within the 5'10 to 6'2 range. A lanky 5'11 means he was probably underdeveloped. The risk of lankiness isn't supposed to be that high for 5'11 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:03 AM
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I think women tend to focus a lot on the nature of the attention they are getting, since they often have troubles figuring out if the guy is only in it for sex or not. However, I acknowledge that men have to face more rejections as men tend to be the pursuers, and shyness and general sociability affecting men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:58 PM
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Gold diggers exist for the filthy rich. I am not talking about the upper middle class. And read my second sentence of the original comment. You seem to have missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:15 PM
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Here on PPD, Blue Pill can be: - Intrinsic traits are all that matters - Intrinsic traits matter too Black Pill is about looks but can be: - Looks are all that matters - If you do not have enough looks, you are locked out Red Pill... it is kinda all over the place here. But generally there's - People who do not moralize biology - People who like to moralize biology
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:45 PM
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If a man rich enough, he will have enough opportunities to bag a hottie. Whether she'd be attracted to him would still be the question. I would say most women first apply the looks threshold then optimize for money, but there's likely a threshold for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:28 PM
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People talk about mate value a lot, but fail to recognize that in order for a market to sustain itself, both genders need to want the top tier and will be as selective as possible. A market just does not work out if either one of the genders is as wholesome as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:02 AM
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Beta Bux or Convenient Women are the people settle for when they fail to find love with who they want. It exists for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:04 AM
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Brain is something outside of training. You should have said something like astronaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:11 AM
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No. It is musician.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:54 PM
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So there's this problem too. The way a dude acts around his bros can be very different from the way he would act around a girl. A guy could just act chill and try to fit in with the bros especially when he has less say in the group, and how guys hang could also be pretty mindless. Friendships don't carry the same level of risk or investment as relationships. You don't need to show that much about yourself to just hang out with people, but that's not really the case in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:58 PM
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I think "Where are all the good men" is more spoken among the older crowd. "Where are all the good men" can be answered by most good men already having been taken off the market. But the truth is, if they are good themselves, they must be able to recognize the good ones who are already paired up. It should make them solemn, not resentful. I think who blame the other gender for lacking are just telling on themselves. And I think you may be giving men too much credit. I think goodness is pretty sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:33 PM
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This case is a prime example of being neurotic leading to a lack of trust, not trust and being neurotic coexisting. The gravity of the situation can trigger such neurotic needs, but that doesn't mean it should be called something different in this particular discourse. This isn't about framing things palatably, but identifying the underlying motivations and implications. “Trust but verify” is a euphemism for normal discourse, not this PPD one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:17 PM
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They were engaging in a debate making such a claim disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:58 PM
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Such phrasing is simply a lie. It should be called be skeptical and verify. Call it what it is. Don't try to dance around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:42 PM
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Take standard deviation into consideration and look for the range, not the dead average. A good face is very valuable if it is actually good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:19 PM
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Are you out of the average range of male height in your region? If not, a good face can still pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:13 PM
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If it is an arranged marriage, that's a fair question. If not, what's actually wrong with him? Say no to brainrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:26 PM
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Yeah it is the easiest, laziest and cheapest form of investment for people with money to spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:52 PM
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What looks good, looks good; what doesn't, doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:29 PM
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/s But thankfully our ethnicity is the safest from balding and there's no balding genes in either side of his family. Within our ethnicity, balding is a sign of serious aging/deterioration. Deteriorated people are not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:21 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:55 PM
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I generalize for the sake of discussion when needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:40 PM
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My boyfriend knows he can’t lose his hair or get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:30 PM
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ACS is a robust and high-quality data. I’m not questioning the reliability of the data source or the sample size itself. My concern is about the interpretation of the data when it reflects a phenomenon with a low base rate, not the sample size. Making generational claims from an outcome that applies to less than 20% of young men still risks overgeneralization. Even when drawn from a large, reliable dataset, low-prevalence phenomena pose interpretive challenges. The risk isn't about statistical n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:35 PM
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I just think the claim that millennials didn’t have it easier dating-wise shouldn’t be supported by such low absolute numbers. Less than a fifth of the population is being used to draw these conclusions. Academically, using low absolute numbers are seen as a risk for overrepresentation or misinterpretation resulting in sweeping claims. Such numbers offer little real research value in this context; they’re more like something you’d expect to see in marketing, not in serious social analysis. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:42 PM
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You might have a better chance looking in Asia if you speak your Asian language. Or consider looking elsewhere within Europe? The dating pool size can be a real issue. I too was considering moving to another city with more Asians at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:45 PM
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Well the happy medium can be a slippery slope both ways, and is very hard to pinpoint where that would be. I think the modern way or striving for balance is generally safer cause I know of the ways that traditionalism can go wrong and how difficult it is to get it somewhat right though. But knowing certain things are ingrained in me, I knew I had to find someone with a similar mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:39 PM
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Living for others, not yourself basically. But just the explanation in words does not properly capture the mentality, cause there’s no equivalent to compare it to in general Western sense. The best way I could describe it is women in Victorian Era perhaps, but this is a mentality to be had for the entire family (not just the wife) under the name of familial duty. We erase a person in the name of duty and it is drilled into us. But again, this is old school. Most families are now somewhat wishy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:18 PM
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Perhaps the numbers could be saying more about the economy than anything else. I think those stats could be a poor way to determine whether gen z are coupling at higher rates than millennials. This could very well be a reflection of who can’t afford to live alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:21 AM
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Which part(s)? One's whole life story is quite long.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:31 AM
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I'm younger than you, but my observations are a bit different. Social media at least in my teenage years allowed students to communicate online, but we mostly made plans online and hung out offline. It was big, but how it was used was still way more balanced. When I was younger, OLD was seen as a loser thing people who could not date normally used. More people were expected to have lives primarily offline. I think we def had the advantage of having the opportunity to be better socialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:53 AM
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Having to date for a couple years or more became somewhat necessarily partly due to this too imo. There’s less clarity now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:42 PM
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I had an odd experience with my boyfriend where I knew almost immediately that a marriage could work out between us. It was not a matter of attraction, but an alignment of values, understanding of the cultures we both experienced, and expectations. I may sound like a religious zealot here, but I am not trying to be. I think it just used to be easier when a lot more people shared a narrow-ish set of beliefs. People were sorta maneuvered to be compatible more or less back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:29 PM
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I didn’t date for quite a while after finding out more about myself. Basically, I am too much of an outlier in the West and that made my dating pool minuscule. I am a weird mix of old school Asian upbringing and Christianity with different interpretation of the Bible from the common way it is interpreted in my culture. Plus, as it turns out, my family is very old school even in Asia. Honestly, I initially didn’t realize how much I was influenced by my Asian upbringing until there was a big crisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:05 PM
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Well maybe not, but you also have to think of the competition and how competitive your own traits are to the other gender. I am not one who believes men are fine with a McDonalds cashier, but even when they mate a little below their own income level, it increases their dating pool while increasing competition for the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:17 PM
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Congratulations Lily :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:55 PM
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My mom did that, and my mom and I asked ourselves what my dad would have said about my boyfriend too afterwards. My boyfriend stayed calm and sincere when talking with my mom. My boyfriend asked what my dad looks for in a guy even back in high school, and I like that a lot about him. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with my family helping me vet. My boyfriend and I would do the same for our future children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:54 PM
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Nah. I live on my own. My boyfriend lives at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:38 AM
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I’m too Asian to answer. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:28 AM
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I would actually argue that to compete at the top percentile, access to the top SMV of the other gender is more genetically determined for the women, while men have to hit way more right marks without it being completely genetic. The most desirable women generally choose a good portfolio that accounts for mutable traits too. The most desirable men generally choose based on immutable genetics a lot more. I am not trying to moralize this. Biology is what drives us to determine SMV/desirability per…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:36 PM
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SMV calculation itself is asymmetric for the genders. Youth matters more for women. Height matters almost only for the men. Men here even like to claim that low n-count matters a lot more for the women and so on. SMV percentile match after your whole portfolio is evaluated by the metrics the other gender cares about is relevant. SMV is not about some 1:1 comparison of the same variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:57 PM
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Bait
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:49 AM
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You don't take accountability and blame everything on others while being entitled like expecting everything to be handled and be handed to you. Asians say this too. Basically if a child gets babied all their life, we expect this to happen. Why we call it a last born thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:19 PM
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I think we just have a lot of introverted or risk averse men here. These traits pose more problems for men. Other than that, it is mostly about one's desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:53 PM
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Not always. Perceived status matters along with what's considered desirable by the masses. But what you are saying can be true too though. I personally come from a culture with similar issues. Even my dad didn't even want me to marry a guy from my own country, cause he knew. It isn't just the guys like you've said. It is entirely possible to find a good man in modern times. But the family elders? Oof. My mom told me to marry a guy from a less influential family, so that my family could protect m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:50 PM
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I never said it doesn't matter to people. I am one of the ones who care, remember? But this does not matter to the degree PPD believes it to matter that PPD n-count talk has become somewhat of a crazy talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:23 PM
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Yeah well we have many men claiming that even women with sexual restraint prefer man hoes. The sweeping generalizations are way too extreme and often don't actually capture one's dating outcomes. PPD guys in general absolutely underestimate how well mid-n women do, and how women who try to practice sexual restraint are penalized in the dating market. Even high-n women can meet men who just don't give much shit about her past. It is just-world fallacy everywhere when we talk about female n-count.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:12 PM
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Perhaps, but I kinda wish both genders would stop whining about the opposite gender not meeting their standards. Oftentimes, the reason why they bitch and moan is because they can't afford what they want. I care about my own count and my partner's count. Not many people attack me here cause I just tell people to do what they want, and deal with the results whatever they are. High-n women are not universally undesirable, and virginal women could even be undesirable to some. High-n men could be no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:37 PM
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Some question whether one can afford such a standard or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:22 PM
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N-count CAN be a direct reflect of a person's views on sex only when the choices are intentional. Plus, not all intentional low-n people happen to have the same view on sex either. My boyfriend is the sex is something very special and should be saved kind of person, and I am the there's not enough good things that come out of premarital sex for it to make sense to me kind of person that values sexual restraint. Both genders can have whatever preferences for whatever reasons. But if one cannot be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:17 PM
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Devout religious women are going to want devout religious men. In the West, virginal population is almost non-existent outside of religious context. Asymmetric SMV metric makes sense to me, but on the issue of attainability, you need to understand your audience and know what they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:19 PM
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"Pretty similar" I was talking about the availability of the choice to choose otherwise, and the reality of having to live with the options one has. Oftentimes, being treated like the safe one is one's reality and the best one could afford. It is on the person to deal with it internally despite it being not the most ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:47 PM
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I personally don't use the term. The dominant theory currently is the sexual market theory. Hypergamy at least to my understanding is a unnuanced concept that does not fully capture the mating behavior, so got replaced by the sexual market theory. But yes, both genders for the most part need to want the top goods in order for SMP theory to hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:56 PM
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Chads are able to fuck without lying about his intentions and women usually know what they are getting. What you describe is more true when guys make her a placeholder or a forever girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:27 PM
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A mix of both, but because we have more than five people in each league, we are still able to vet for compatibility within a league. I also think people rarely full on dumpster dive to find compatibility, but maybe go a league below to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:14 PM
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Both genders want the top rare percentage. That's how the whole SMP theory holds up. If attraction was equalized/relative, markets would not form.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:02 PM
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This is pretty similar to the first choice question when it asked whether you'd care if you are a man's first choice or not. There I answered, if you can afford to be the first choice, great. But that's not a luxury that everyone has, and what choice does one really have if that's not an option? If I could be attractive to someone, I would want that. If not, there's not much of a choice. So I think there's two different types of bonded couples. They are not recognized terms, but just what I am c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:00 PM
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So the whole medium sized shirt throws people off I think. At 5’6 and 180 lbs, I presume he still is supposed to be pretty wide. I know a 6’ guy who was around 180 lbs so I’m using him as a bit of a benchmark. That shirt is likely extremely vanity sized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:39 PM
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Here’s one hypothesis. There are women who sleep with men to cause they think they won’t be able to get/keep the man’s interest otherwise. She may have put in the investment (sex) only for him to leave perhaps? Again, a hypothesis. I have no idea for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:20 PM
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If he is American, I kinda doubt that’s the case. They often think fat people are fit. If he was actually built underneath, I think he would have described himself differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:13 PM
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Precisely. Second hand experience is still pretty powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:43 PM
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I was still extroverted and all when I wasn’t getting much external validation, but I agree that getting the external validation changed my self image a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:28 PM
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Become desirable enough that when you find a unicorn, you are able to catch it. And really, learn how to vet. It is a lot harder than most people believe it to be depending on the type of relationship you desire. My parents had the best marriage that I know of, so my character vetting criteria was kinda insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:51 AM
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Go look at studies regarding infidelity rather than using anecdotal data. Men have a dual mating strategy which means their threshold for sex and investment are very different. They are happy to fuck the average goods. SMP theory crumbles if either gender were as wholesome as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:50 AM
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More people gravitate towards the ones with ideal ratios than you seem to imagine. You'd be surprised. Again, you can do some research into it rather than relying on anecdotal data. The thing about ideal ratio faces is that they are actually pretty rare, cause too many things need to work together. It is not like top 15% faces, but could be closer to top 1-2% or 5% at most if we are counting SUFFICIENTLY aesthetically harmonious faces. Harmony reliant faces have a pretty high bar to pass. I find…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:59 PM
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What I am saying is that truerateme is trying to be objective, when they do not have the ability or are trained to be objective. I am not talking about one's subjective taste. I have my subjective tastes too despite knowing what's visually ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:00 PM
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No, I am not talking about those masks. If you are really interested, you should look more into ratios or measurements that in aggregate, make a face actually harmonious. It is possible to look off even with the best features, and it is possible to look right even with not the best features. This is an example of where we go past the conventional/cultural beauty standards, and try to make the face look right. I am in demand due to my visual literacy, so I don't actually use the ratios myself. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:47 PM
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There still are clinical models for the west too. They just are not visually literate enough to work without one nor are they knowledgeable enough to use the clinical model. The clinical model was created to aid people without the visual literacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:28 PM
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A funny group of people who think they are somehow based when they don't have the visual literacy. Tbf, a lot of surgeons don't have it either. This is why there's separate visual/beauty directors for Korean top celebrities. They should try getting such a job and see if they actually have the visual literacy. I'm willing to bet most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:13 PM
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I think they could have enough desirability to simply cheat if we disregard the consequences, but don't have enough leverage to seek polygyny upfront. The OP attempted to justify himself with other polygynous cultures. What he is seeking is not the accepted form of polygyny, so he was wrong to use it to justify himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:04 PM
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these kinds of men are the ones that get complained about by both men and by women. Probably. How Stacies act seems to often be accepted by men as their God-given right. Women exclusively tend to complain about how Stacies act. Furthermore, many attractive people have a lot of practice being able to hide their true intentions I actually think it is the other way around. Attractive people can afford to be authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:56 PM
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My last comment was to oppose the OP. I am just talking about what could allow for polygyny. Historical polygyny that was accepted was transparent and did not involve betrayal so it wasn't actually cheating, you are correct. There was a contractual difference. One did not expect monogamy, the other one does. I don't really care about what you would do or what I would do or some other women would do. I am saying, it is possible to have asymmetric dynamics with enough leverage. It is possible with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:50 PM
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Well, people also have the option to mate down to gain more leverage. They just don't want to mate down to gain the leverage they need for less symmetric dynamics. Six figures usually can't buy one such a leverage. They just can't afford to do it the real way. The cultures where they had polygyny approved of it when the men could actually afford it upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:36 PM
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Anyone desirable enough should be able to cheat if we are to disregard morality as a whole and the negative impacts. Marriage Means Nothing the 1089th Edition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:24 PM
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Sexual marketplace theory collapses if either one of the genders don't want the top goods. The vast majority of people want the top goods, and that's what creates the sexual marketplace. Anyone who claims otherwise is either an outlier in the market or a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:20 PM
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He still does not have every right to cheat. People should be shamed (and ideally punished by law imv) for not keeping their marriage vows.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:13 PM
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Attractive people can't really get away with more if they desire to mate across. It works when you have leverage to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:09 PM
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We have enough evidence of general human nature if we are talking about a pattern not outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:02 PM
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I am from the East and infidelity used to be illegal in my country. We can still sue the adulteress for damages. Indonesia passed a new criminal code that includes adultery as a criminal offense in 2022. Being against adultery is not some western idea. Don't make promises you don't plan on keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:54 PM
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It can be seen as a form of disrespect for the woman and the relationship even without insecurity being present. People can have different views of what’s actually appropriate within a relationship. If the couple agrees with one another, great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:29 PM
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A person's own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men - meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair. A partner's attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women - meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive. https://www.business-standard.com/amp/article/pti-stories/unattractive-women-more-likely-to-cheat-study-118021400477_1.html So… according to this study, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:22 PM
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Some people make such a decision to forego the most superficially desirable individual they can get when a league below is still more than satisfactory and doing so allows them to optimize for other traits. But I would say superficial traits still matter nonetheless. It doesn’t mean we dumpster dive, we just go a league or two below.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:17 PM
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Demanding submission when it is unearned or not mutually agreed upon. In some cases where someone’s ego gets out of hand. The photo is how ancient Asians saw masculinity/femininity. There’s some positive words. I think the lists do a better job of describing what’s likely to be unconsciously perceived as masculine/feminine by the masses. Not perfect but a good enough example imv. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:02 AM
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No, he just has sexual dimorphic traits that make him very visible. Aesthetically, he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:42 PM
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A major city somewhere. I wasn't in Chinatown.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:38 PM
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They need to get rid of employees that don’t speak English.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:05 PM
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Depends. I think at age 29, the dating norms/needs could shift a bit that it may even be understandable for people who didn’t have issues before to have some level of confusion too. I have a friend in his mid 30’s like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:59 PM
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Thank you. The big obstacle to actually making something like this work in modern times is that such mindset has to be widespread for it to be feasible for many, not just that it is not taught to kids. Delayed gratification or restraint probably isn't in our nature. Even Asia is losing a lot of its older practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:55 PM
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Not really. Men are more likely to adopt a dual mating strategy or have differing thresholds for sex and investment. I just think neither gender should moralize their own biology anymore, and try to understand the biology behind why each gender act the way they do. Both genders want the other gender to cater to the opposite biology, calling their own more fair or virtuous or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:08 PM
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Yeah I am saying the latter could be a better equivalence. The former has to be different due to the biological differences anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:00 PM
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Oh they were serious. Don't force your viewpoints on others. We were just understanding of each other's circumstances, and high pressure careers often require such partners especially if you don't want to deplete someone emotionally for you not being there. We valued compatibility, but were realistic when we learned our lives were unlikely to converge. Us being understanding of the circumstances is a form of love and respect. Which part of wishing them well on their journey is a lack of love? It…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:47 PM
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What makes you think the first relationship or the second relationship had to have that much investment from any of the participants? We all dated each other cause at the time, not one of us would put relationship over our own success, and we all liked that about each other and found that comfortable. We did not want high maintenance partners or high investment relationships. With the second one, we even forgot each other's birthdays, and we both understood each other. That's the kind of careers…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:57 PM
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I agree that women in general don’t seem to be happy when such thing happens. However men here seem to claim that they would not be insulted and would actually be flattered by women asking them out even if he deems her unattractive. I can see that the better equivalent would be them lashing out when they get rejected by a woman they didn’t think much of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:01 PM
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I didn’t break up with them cause I changed or whatever. My different choices were regarding my new partner choice as I also mentioned in my first comment. The first one and the second one ended mostly due to life circumstances. The first one we had to move away from each other (ended up in different countries), and the next guy, we ended up not being able to see each other for a whole year. The third one, I ended up going to the police due to that one. I like to think I respect everyone’s menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:07 AM
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While I think Big 5 likely is nature for the most part, people are made to adapt and learn according to their experiences. That’s a big part of survival as an organism. Environment nor experiences are a constant. You are trying to argue what to define as change and what not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:33 AM
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It is possible to change. I always chose based on what I was serious about at the time of getting with a man. I first chose a guy who was serious about his studies when I was serious about my studies. I then chose a guy who was career obsessed when I was career obsessed. Then came the guy who was intellectually competent when I was craving for an intellectual connection. I didn’t want a family of my own when I was younger, but I indeed did change, and now I am with a man with family values that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:07 AM
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I did til death did them part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:59 PM
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Ex-model/actress level pretty women still get free things into their 40's and 50's like free legal work. They can pull a lot of favors. Just above average, I am not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:45 PM
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I think competence stack may outperform status stack. Status stack is often preferred by women who are more concerned about their own status (from what I can tell at least anyway so purely from my own observations), but competence stack is respected even by the women who don't lack anything at all. But I have not read a single study on this particular thing so no scientific evidence whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:47 PM
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So what is it that you said about alpha widow?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:34 PM
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Guess that could have been just what I see around me. A lot are at least well connected if not already from influential families.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:32 PM
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I just put status in the competence bracket. Pretty much the same thing at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:26 PM
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Female celebrities often seem to go for athletes who have an athletic stack. In the wild, at least from what I see, they tend to go for decent looking guys who have a competence stack. I think there's a looks threshold but men usually have to play with more optimized portfolios rather than a trait spike.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:22 PM
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Could be due to this. https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/InPress_HuntEastwickFinkel_PSci_000.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:43 PM
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There was a study on this. Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person's own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men (statistically insignificant) - meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair. A partner's attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women (statistically insignificant) - meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive. https://www.bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:58 PM
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I watched Cole Hastings videos a few years ago and at the time, it sounded like he tried to be balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:45 PM
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Height is a part of men's looks. It counts as a part of looks SMV calculation, not female empowerment. When it comes to approaching, risk aversion can influence it for sure, but the ones who desire the other more also tend to approach more. Paying for dates, I actually do agree with. Dating a man who makes less money than them, again I think it should be alright. Being the bread-winner/provider, I just don't know if a lot of people could actually afford to do so. But temporary unemployment, I gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:10 AM
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I wanted a maine coon but one friend said the cat would eat me for dessert and another said when I need to evacuate, I could ride the cat down the stairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:07 PM
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I think male-female friendships are possible, but I've also seen mid AF people cheating with each other on their partners. It isn't really all about physical attractiveness. Needs more nuance than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:56 PM
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I was taught that a mother's job is to get her children ready for their adult lives, and was raised that way. We are supposed to grow out of needing our parents' care. Modern parenting's failure is exactly that. The problem is that we have overgrown children, not that we are unable to acquire new parents in our adult lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:51 PM
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I am still side eyeing but alright. We have an UX designer on ppd. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:53 PM
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Ummm
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:49 PM
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Yeah. Absolutely not. Lol I think the face that works in both the East and the West is prob Daniel Henney. He is mixed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:31 PM
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There are creepy behaviors but there also could be different thresholds for acceptance depending on one’s looks. Hot/crazy matrix applies to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:22 PM
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I find that Changs that have defined features are the very in demand by Asian women, but when they can’t get one, these women go for other sources for these defined features.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:33 AM
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Maybe try to get to know people in more of a group setting and keep the relationship ambiguous enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:29 AM
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Act cool
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:54 AM
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No, we are waiting til marriage. We are Asian immigrants from different countries. The traditional side of his culture apparently denounces dating to get to know a person, and dating should be with someone with actual intent to marry, so that’s what he did. I was taught by my mom to only have sex once I can be responsible for a child and only with a man I would form a family with. Having a child out of wedlock is actually insane in my culture, so… And yes, he is waiting. If he wanted to, he woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 10:36 PM
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Older women condemning age gap relationships are almost immediately seen as insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:21 PM
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Until I balanced my hormones, it was really bad like crawl out of bed to take advil and crawl back bad. Now I am mostly low stamina so have shorter active hours but have enough productive hours on advil to not completely ruin my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:51 AM
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I think dark circles are one of the more hyped up marketing parts of skincare. I wouldn't have too high of expectations in that regard. But skincare is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:12 AM
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Voluntary Celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:08 AM
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Where did all the good men go? The vast majority of them already taken by good women. Both genders who ask similar questions have the audacity to assume they are one of the good ones. Even the single ones who are actually good know who the good people are, and know these good people are already taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:05 AM
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I don't think redpill claims that. Redpill wants the women to be young and beautiful. And some of them even fantasize trading up when the woman is no longer young and beautiful cause that's the value match of a successful desirable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:56 PM
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I don't think minority are voluntary non-cheaters. A lot just don't cheat cause of potential consequences. Remove all consequences, then we'd be talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:36 PM
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Usually the religious or culturally conservative types would answer yes with some caveats. I am a mix of both and I am dating a volcel that I am planning to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:50 PM
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Yeah it depends on where you live. I moved to a city with more Asians from a super conservative small white town and everything changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:19 PM
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When i said that, i was asked to rate her body and her hair 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:59 AM
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What i said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:57 AM
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i don't judge women until i see them without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:08 PM
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I mean there's stuff like Have standards vs. Don't be too picky Be sexually empowered vs. Don't move too fast Make the first move vs. Let him chase you Dress modestly vs. Show some skin and so on... even for women You have to realize what could potentially work for you and the limitations of the method. How attractive you are does matter in which methods could potentially work or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:57 PM
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I’ve heard of some very disgusting stories from other schools and I think the school’s culture had something to do with it. I liked having enough nerd peers. We did have party kids who did drugs and all but we still has plenty of nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:52 PM
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If you moved for university from a small town, you probably didn’t end up in some unserious school. I moved from a super conservative town to a big city for my education too, and I found some schools have way more serious students than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:45 PM
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I have no desire to be the ugly one in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:06 AM
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I was thinking a drug dealer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:28 AM
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Yes, there's a lot of people in the middle. But my point is that what you are describing is still circumstantial, not active abstinence. I don't like how they talk about completely voluntary celibacy when they don't have the same values.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:06 PM
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The problem I have with some people is that, if they had a choice, they would have had casual sex. That's not having the same mindset as people who are actively abstaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:42 PM
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Well at least you are keeping the DT alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:17 PM
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So I'm the masculine one and my boyfriend is the feminine one in my relationship. When he held my waist for the first time, he apparently had to tell himself that it was his brother's waist to get himself to hold my waist. I laughed in his face, not with malice but that's so adorable kind of manner. Teasing him should end in a pout, not in lashing out or getting defensive. In terms of education and career trajectory, celebrate my achievements with me. I am keeping him around for a reason. Looks?…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:27 PM
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Idk. PPD chadfish experiments suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:12 PM
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I appreciate your honesty. I hold the same standards to women fyi. If a woman just hasn't had a hot enough opportunity, or a desirable enough committed offer and remained a virgin, that's circumstantial too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:36 PM
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I think undesirable traits that actually register fall under this category. Like a clearly ugly face that actually stands out and registers for being ugly, height out of the norm that registers as short even when someone is not thinking about height, and probably neurodivergence too. I think they are highly unlikely to be saved using TRP advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:47 PM
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If he is 6'4 while being good looking, shouldn't he have a lot of women on OLD? I think you are likely overestimating his face if he can't pull on OLD. But yes, overall I believe it must be difficult to have casual sex consistently for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:27 PM
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I only care for one's virginity when it is a testament to one's values. Celibacy can either be a conscious choice rooted in personal values or a circumstance. One doesn't get to play the virtue card when it was due to a circumstance, not conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:31 PM
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What makes you think conservative men want to wait? They usually are the men with the strongest double standards I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:27 PM
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Which part do you want to hear more on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:28 PM
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I think in general, femininity leans passive and masculinity leans more proactive by nature. I believe there’s some inherent differences although I see it as a spectrum. I very much doubt enough women being not passive enough to actually make what you are suggesting work in a large scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:17 AM
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I still need to do some more academic digging into this, but it seems like men of all tiers voluntarily choose monogamy only when they have access to high tier women not in a relative manner, but an absolute manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:37 PM
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Women like hot guys make more sense than women hate monogamous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:26 PM
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Not necessarily. People who are more likely to have gotten what they wanted were less likely to cheat. People who didn’t get what they want or don’t value what they have are more likely to cheat. Men’s own attractiveness had a statistically insignificant correlation and women’s partner’s attractiveness had a statistically insignificant correlation if I remember the actual study correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:03 PM
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Apparently, Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person's own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men - meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair. A partner's attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women - meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive. https://www.business-standard.com/amp/article/pti-stories/unattractive-women-more-likely-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:13 AM
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Isn't that pretty similar to taking a girl out to a McDonald's date?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:49 AM
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Which is fair and I feel similarly. I just happen to be quite cynical of people in general. So I am pretty much in acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:11 PM
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The thing is, both genders like to moralize their own biology. Male and female biology are different. One allows for a dual mating strategy, the other doesn't really. Each gender wishes the other gender to cater to their biology, not one's own. A lot of men want easy access to casual sex. A lot of women want men to only pursue them when it is with serious intent. Honestly, not many people are that moral or virtuous, so people usually act according to their biological programming which some peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:05 PM
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I'm a woman who is in a longterm relationship. I think biology isn't supposed to be pretty. But at the same time, if you aren't able to give the benefit of the doubt, you are also incapable of love. Basically, be desirable enough and learn to vet. Also, as far as I know, TRP is for the average men, not men with severe disadvantages that push him out of the average zone. Let me reiterate that I believe biology isn't pretty; it can be brutal and unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:26 PM
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Could be conservatism from religious or cultural influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:06 PM
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Yeah my boyfriend too is like you, but I have not seen many like you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:36 PM
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I like The Secretary Problem method with some nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:00 PM
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Who might you be? A new face on the DT or just a new name?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:23 AM
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People usually end up with someone within their league. If people are adamant about finding certain traits in a person, people usually go a league below, not full on dumpster dive. Just fishing down a league lets you optimize a whole lot. And honestly, it is not like we have 5 products on the market. Within one's league already has a lot of compatible people for most people unless the person is some extreme outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:18 AM
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Coat and cow
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:53 PM
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Nope. I'm doing the exact opposite. He now works out and watches what he eats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:49 PM
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Whoa
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:03 PM
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I exist. My ex-playboy friends describe me as an ice queen or just dry. They make great shields as friends though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:02 PM
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Thanks for answering. So once the attraction is established, it doesn’t break from them seeing the past you or finding out that you don’t have that much experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:26 PM
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I think it really depends on the culture. In trad marriage markets, the wall actually does exist for both genders. Being over 30 for women and 35 for men will duck age points.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:10 PM
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Musician Chang.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:08 PM
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That used to be a thing in my country until they changed the laws. A lot of people think the law shouldn’t have been changed. I am one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:05 PM
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Since when does a 9 have to lie in order to get laid or do whatever… There’s less trickery involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:59 AM
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Out of curiosity, does pulling out the picture sometimes backfire or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:15 AM
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Oh Korean actors like 15-20 years ago were peak. Especially their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:57 PM
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Old legends like Grace Kelly, Audrey Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor and Monica Bellucci were good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:35 PM
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I actually deduct the most points for ever engaging in non-committal sex. It is not about who someone remembers, but how they approach sex. Different people can want different things for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:54 PM
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Hope you post it when the n-count mega thread is up. I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:22 PM
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I am not sure what you mean by Chad treatment, but you are pursuing a relationship with someone, but the same person treats someone else better? That's a telltale sign that you or your relationship won't be cherished.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:18 PM
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Humans generally aren't virtuous, and biology isn't supposed to be pretty or indiscriminate. A part of the big misunderstanding is that males have a dual mating strategy (basically commitment vs. sex issue) due to the biological differences. PPD is mostly both genders trying to moralize their own biology, and wanting the other gender to cater to their biology, not one's own. That is not how things work. We like to think we are better than our biology, but eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:14 AM
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Look for reciprocation and how they treat Chad/Stacy vs. you. Regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:59 AM
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I went to two high schools. One had a decent music program. The other made me hate school assemblies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:00 AM
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Have you considered mentioning you haven't come out to your family on your profile to avoid future heartbreaks and for you to vet for compatibility in a more efficient manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:57 PM
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Okay, I will have to read the actual study, but from this link alone, now the hypothesis is that the age that men and women feel the biological pressure to settle down is the main factor for the age gap in stated preference. They want to be with someone who would want to settle down when they feel like they need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:30 PM
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Okay I asked the question. The link is updated. https://chatgpt.com/share/681d1c39-1ef8-8000-82e7-7bbe8f061aa4 Look near the bottom. Again, I am not sure about the accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:46 PM
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Ah. The link I provided could be a good read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:36 PM
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Here's the estimated effective range of the above formula. Range Modeling Validity Explanation 0–25% ❌ Poor Inputs unreliable, subjects often invisible, not playing in the market. 25–40% ⚠️ Limited Marginal presence in market, may be excluded by default filters. 40–85% ✅ Strong This is where your model best tracks reality and can predict outcomes fairly well. 85–95% ⚠️ Weakening Top-tier compounding begins, individual variance rises. 95–100% ❌ Breaks Outliers dominate, charisma/fame/etc. overrid…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:22 PM
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Okay, I ran it through ChatGPT myself cause the numbers didn't really add up for me. Studies suggest biological features overrule traits that can be changed through effort. Apparently our brains are really serious about the genetic markers, and possible fraud. Factor Weight Scientific Basis Facial Structure & Aesthetics 35% Strongest predictor in revealed preference (Tinder, speed dating, facial symmetry). Height 15% Independent, robust female preference even when controlling for SES/muscle. Mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:22 PM
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Are you getting why some people like to hide out from the main thread now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:46 PM
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I know one, but it is just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:28 PM
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Isn't it possible for you to get arranged in your country too then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:37 PM
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I should clarify. Nowadays, you CAN get married to foreigners, but that's usually children who grew up abroad and ended up meeting their partners organically like myself. But family elders won't like it at all usually. Arranged marriage market and the matchmaking market are different beasts, and is very discriminatory on all metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:33 PM
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Please erase the country as I have told you I don't disclose my country openly. And no, foreigners are not considered. My family wanted to reject my boyfriend even when he is the same color as me cause he is from another country.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:24 PM
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But yeah, I was open to getting arranged before I reconnected and got together with my boyfriend. My parents were arranged and had the best marriage that I know of, so I wasn't completely opposed. But because I grew up in such a rare household, I too wanted the kind of cherished marriage that my parents had. That's what I ended up placing more emphasis on. Not saying that I don't care about looks and what not. As long as he doesn't get flat out rejected by my family even with my leverage and rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:21 PM
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You should have gotten a message
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:37 PM
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These metrics are according to the matchmaking services scoring or for arranged marriage cause my country still uses them. Educated at a top school. From an established family. Holds a prestigious job (or is rich but that’s lower tier usually). Tall and handsome. Not balding. 35+ gets points ducked. Net worth. Personality/values matter too apparently. Not that I would choose based on these metrics, but that’s how actual services determine tiers. Whoever sells the best in the market should be cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:23 PM
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https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/why-are-people-in-japan-marrying-their-friends-instead-of-searching-for-romance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:07 AM
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Neurotic is not the same as neuroticism. Neuroticism is not a mental illness. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:37 AM
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salmon, beef and lamb
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:24 AM
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Based. I am pro-hair transplant. Hair is so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:12 PM
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Yeah, seems like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:51 PM
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I was refuting the point that you do not know of a single decisive woman. The average in neuroticism in women is higher that results in many things including lower average decisiveness. My point was NAWALT, not denying the average neuroticism difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:50 PM
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If that’s how you wish to interpret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:44 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:42 PM
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Finance. Law. Medicine. Edit: not GPs. I don’t consider them as doctors. I mean surgeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:35 PM
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That’s giving off AI generated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:33 PM
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You don’t survive in certain professions without decisiveness. Those professions are not in void of women who perform well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:32 PM
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I think there might not be 1:1 equivalent. However, desirability portfolio for males and females are stacked with different traits and with differing degrees of importance. SMP is about the exchange of composite value. It is not about finding 1:1 comparable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:26 PM
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Not at all. I am one of the lucky Asians that don't. I just like cashew milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:16 PM
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You just made me pour water into my cashew milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:53 PM
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Yes to replaceable but here's the thing... Especially at the start of the dating phase, you do need to have the time to invest. It could also be seen as the preview of the relationship. There's not much invested into the relationship so it is a lot more fragile too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:39 PM
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When I was flying out to go on a first date with my boyfriend without seeing his recent photos, I was praying for two things. Don’t be fat and no balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:34 PM
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The thing is, looksmatching first happens usually on genetic health markers, not body fat level unless one is obese enough. Fitness is good and all, but it isn’t as much of a boost or a bottleneck within a reasonable range. You can do some research into this. But if you are getting the women you want, good for you. You probably have the genetic health markers for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:26 PM
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I think at 5’6, a man may need some very compensatory traits. Glad your bro had them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:20 AM
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The willingness to drop the term doesn't mean you are willing to drop the idea that women seek for better and men don't. It isn't a semantics issue, but simple market theory universities teach in first year econ. Women are just more calibrated than men probably cause of their inability to adopt a dual mating strategy. Men's failure to optimize is a display of miscalibration, not their undiscriminating nature. A woman's age is such an easy marker of fertility, and it is measured in absolute terms…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:39 PM
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My main account's flair is "I upset everyone". I will probably be a mean old dog too eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:20 PM
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Yeah there can be contradicting science, and even pure BS ones. Reading scientific literature is not about trusting blindly or spinning it however you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:19 PM
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Women's biology requires a "strong" man for the sake of protection. So women's sexuality gets activated when they are reminded of the strength. On the other hand, male sexuality gets activated when they are reminded of signs of fertility. That's why women lose a lot of power in the SMP when they get old. Again, this is not hypergamy, but what makes up desirability in each gender. You seem to not understand how hypergamy is used even casually. You are trying to use it as a catch-all excuse. Hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:13 PM
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Ooooh hi fred!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:38 PM
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It feels as if I am the only one who reads and parses through evolutionary science when I am on the main thread. u/tacticaltossaway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:37 PM
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Physical cues of fertility are biologically universal, and men’s preferences are more concentrated around those markers than you might be willing to admit. Across cultures, male attraction consistently centers on youth and signs of genetic health which all rooted in evolutionary pressures tied to fertility. What’s often framed as diverse male taste still operates well within the boundaries of genetic stability indicators. Features like averageness (which in scientific literature, refers to morph…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:30 PM
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I’ve actually been digging into the question of male investment baseline lately. I have found no data that holds up under scrutiny, not because I’m trying to be biased, but because much of what’s out there is either based on rating scales rather than percentiles, or it’s too distorted by short-term mating signals (due to where the data was collected). Women’s mate choice tends to be more consciously strategic than we often acknowledge. That's why women are sometimes considered to be the calculat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:06 PM
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Male dual mating strategy is neither a virtue or a lack of one. Both genders keep moralizing biology on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:32 PM
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Not on this thread, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:52 PM
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We can post about whatever minus whatever is against the subreddit rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:47 PM
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The daily thread is often where people hide out from the main thread. The main thread is kinda for people who like to hear themselves talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:33 PM
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Males have different thresholds for how much they are willing to invest. Since males want access to sex, some even dumpster dive with zero investment. This male behavior distorts which women are being chosen for life. When we do look at lifetime commitment, SMP is not a charity for neither women nor men. Men stop being generous with the ring. I am not moralizing this in any manner fyi. Males have the biological capability to have this dual mating strategy. It has nothing to do with virtue, but b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:19 AM
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Males have a dual mating strategy. If we are only talking about lifetime commitment, I am not too sure about the difference. And we must not forget male investment threshold is different from male engagement threshold while for females they are the same. Only desiring sexual engagement is generally a male thing and it adds a lot of noise to the signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:00 AM
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Women’s mate selection tends to be relative to themselves like “richer than me” or “taller than me”. Men often optimize using absolute standards like young and attractive. The fact that women use a relative frame doesn’t make their behavior hypergamous. Hypergamy in both evolutionary literature and TRP refers to strictly mating up. Women trading up in certain traits is just strategic mating. Men who fail to understand their own market value, or misuse their currency often end up taking the best …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:19 AM
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Women picking and choosing which traits they are paying for with their own desirability as a currency is a conscious trade off, a value exchange. They are consciously dating down in certain areas to pay for what they want, just like men are okay with dating down in some aspects. You’re conflating trait-specific optimization with hypergamy. Again, this is being ingenuous to label only one side as hypergamy when it is just universal market behavior. Also, men being that generous is only true for n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:38 AM
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SMP theory collapses if we don’t believe all the market participants of both genders want the same top goods. Men and women may value different things in each other, but that doesn’t mean both genders aren’t wanting the best one they can get out of the market. Only calling out women’s wants in men is disingenuous when there’s desirable women according to men’s desires too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:02 AM
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Kdramas do some nice PR for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:16 AM
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Why are you inventing a new goal? The goal was already set at 2k. Getting more would be exceeding expectations. Settling by definition only happens when you accept less than what you were aiming for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:25 AM
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They don't. SMP theory only holds up if both genders want the same top goods. Attraction is not sufficiently relative to one's value. It is more about the absolute value for SMP/leagues to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:19 AM
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Go through her post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:14 AM
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<image> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/settle-for
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:55 AM
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Think this is a woman asking other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:57 PM
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The ratio drops as people pair up, and the good ones are taken off the market permanently. Still it doesn't mean there's no one at all, just gets exponentially hard as time goes by.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:35 PM
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GIVE ME THE PIC how can i find it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:16 PM
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There needs to be a bit more nuance. The entire concept of SMP only works if everyone wants the same rare-tier goods, and the real desires are not relative to one's own mate value. Any woman/man not being rare enough are actually being settled for, not "chosen". There was a study that suggested unattractive women cheat more (but men's own attractiveness did not have a statistically significant impact), but men with unattractive female partners cheat more (but women's partner's attractiveness did…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 09:43 PM
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Being traditional is real tricky. Most people have no idea what it entails, and what risks it poses. They are focused on what they want to get out of it, rather than what's needed to keep everyone safe and the dynamics functional. Nowadays, I just see people who are wannabe trads who think acting out the surface level things is all there is to being trad. It could work for people who actually live by God's words cause humans usually need His wisdom to navigate such dynamics, not surface level Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 09:20 PM
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You know the picture!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:45 PM
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Does anyone have the pic of the fish looking tall man dating a horse looking woman? The pic used to suggest just be tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:15 PM
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I thought 135 was around top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:28 AM
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Unless you have some extreme hair fetish, hair alone cannot be a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:58 AM
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hair alone is a 7 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:38 AM
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Well the industry is actually quite broad, but the most blackpill ones usually are the consulting types. Both plastic surgery consultant and image/style consultant are real jobs. They are not just used by celebrities anymore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:37 AM
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I am not saying eyes don't matter. I am saying the nose is the bar/gatekeeper. Even in idols where eyes become more important than for film, nose must be a given. Idol-adapted templates too show this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:22 AM
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The clinical weighing order stays the same for all East Asian countries. I am being a bit of an asshole for limiting Asia to only East Asia. Excuse me for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:06 AM
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Even you said it is the Asian fixation. Hence, it is the feature that matters the most actually the strongest determining feature for your looks tier. It really ain't the eyes. Even in Asian clinical scoring, the nose gets about 25% of weight and the total eye zone (not just size but the angle and other traits of the eyes too) gets 18% of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:00 AM
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Eyes don't add that many points for Asians. Nose is more critical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:44 AM
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Okay lol i’m laughing over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:49 PM
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What? People even made a word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:48 PM
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What is an ecofeminist...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:43 PM
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poke
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:32 PM
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That just reads like a promiscuous person to me. They are often avoided by non-promiscuous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:55 PM
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Is the OP in China or in Korea? There's a possibility if so. I guess India too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:27 AM
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I care that a man has only had sex within very committed relationships with full awareness that sex can result in pregnancy. I was taught to only have sex when I can be responsible for a child and only with a man I want to have a family with. I am neither pro-life or pro-choice, but abortion is a very serious decision that I do not want to go near.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:31 AM
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More bombardment in your dm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:58 PM
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Not particularly small. I was a visible kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:48 PM
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I’d refuse to go to my high school reunion to not get talked about for my boyfriend and I getting together. My couple would be the topic even after the reunion ends I think. We went to the same high school and briefly went out then too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:39 PM
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I don’t go around ranking everyone. But when it comes to my own partner, it is a series of elimination, not an additive model.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:26 AM
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The thing is, circumstantial low-n/virgins might be alright with such a man, but intentional low-n/virgins are likely to be not. PPD tends to lump them together, but circumstantial ones tend to be the ones who lacked the opportunity to either have sex at all or be with someone they desired. If the opportunity presented itself, they very well would have. Meanwhile, intentional ones are, well, intentional. Even if the opportunity was present, they would not waver and stick to their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:47 PM
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My friend and I found him so funny. Who the f says that. We were saying his lines to each other laughing our asses off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:10 PM
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There's pros and cons to both. Extroverts tend to be happier even when I am not around, and introverts seem to be happier with more time with me. Extroverts need more people and don't necessarily need my full attention. Introverts seem to enjoy just a few people and I need to be one of them. If I want to be spending more time with the partner, introvert. If I want to have a lot more freedom, extrovert. I don't really mind either. My introvert boyfriend currently suffers a little due to my social…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:40 PM
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Well I am a woman and I already optimize my body fat level to my facial structure. Face should actually come first imo. And it is also possible to look too small, and it matters more for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:36 PM
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I asked looksmaxxing gpt. not sure how accurate it is, but it said men who need fat to look better is about 50% of men according to it, but men who look OK with fat it says falls around 70%. But your logic actually does make sense to me. Your comment should be at the top. Looksmaxxing is a lot more nuanced than what most people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:28 PM
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What percentage of men do you think need the extra fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:48 PM
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Hope it works out, Sea!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:40 PM
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Okay well now there is a crazy tool that can tell the integrity of photos (filters or facetune), plastic surgery history, if they are makeupmaxxing and possibly whether someone is fat or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:59 PM
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That's too general. China and Japan are wishy washy with their ratings and are quite inaccurate. Ask for Korean clinical standards since they are structural and systematized therefore consistent. Koreans are crazier than blackpillers btw. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:55 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:32 PM
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Not sure of the accuracy of the statistics, but it was what I could find. “74 percent of men and 68 percent of women admit they’d cheat if it was guaranteed they’d never get caught” https://hackspirit.com/infidelity-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:05 PM
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There's general commonalities shared by people of each field, and the type flexibility I look for have not been present in engineers I know at all. I agree there are people with "engineer brains" capable of abstraction, but that's not what I am looking for. Structured abstraction and fluid abstraction are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:55 PM
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Autism is more than introversion. I am an extroverted woman who is happily dating an introverted man, but I care very much about the ability to think flexibly often in an abstract manner. I don't even like most engineers as they are too rigid thinkers. Having a similar enough cognitive style matters quite a bit when connecting with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:21 PM
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I am perfectly fine dating my looksmatch already, but I don't want my desire to work like men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:31 PM
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Most people won't have the opportunity to be someone's "first choice" regardless of gender. It is something people should come to terms with. SMP only exists because there are preferred individuals in each gender by the market participants. SMP would not exist if even one gender was actually wholesome and not superficially driven. You seem to be disheartened that we don't live in a fairytale. Most people learn that the best they can afford is someone who still treats them right even if they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:16 PM
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Humans in general suck more than what most of us are comfortable with. But then again, sucky people tend to end up together, and good people do better in finding other good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:22 PM
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It could matter if the option to be the first choice was there. But if not, what choices would I have really? It sounds like people get mad because they wanted a Disney fairytale but didn't get one. Be realistic and come back down to earth a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:09 AM
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There's a difference between circumstantial or intentional virgins/low-n's. PPD tends to lump them together. Circumstantial ones tend to be the ones who lacked the opportunity to either have sex at all or be with someone they desired. If the opportunity presented itself, they very well would have. Intentional ones are, well, intentional. Even if the opportunity was present, they would not waver and stick to their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:29 PM
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I think there's levels of degeneracy, but brothels and strip clubs ARE degenerate. I would think anyone who claims otherwise to be crazy or disingenuous. Anyone who engages in such activities are engaging in degenerate activities. I do agree that degeneracy is a sliding scale. Engaging in premarital sex within a very committed relationship is still not proper, but less degenerate than having sex outside of a committed relationship. Hence, I could have accepted a man who engaged in the former but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:11 PM
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People generally act different when the stakes are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:40 PM
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I am not sure what SW is but I consider brothels and strip clubs to be degenerate. I denounce degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:39 PM
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Well since you are comparing it to Nowadays, some men go on multiple dates, act like they want a relationship, and ghost the woman right after having sex. Isn’t that more unethical than being upfront in a paid, consensual setting? My answer would be possibly? I am just against chasing instant gratification and hedonism, and believe in practicing restraint. I think people who do forego sex and stick to what they consider to be more important are less likely to be tempted and chase other forms of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:22 PM
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Height/body is for mids fighting for mids against mids. Face reigns supreme unless the guy is noticeably short. Face being the most important metric in terms of looks is pretty well observed in studies I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:36 PM
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No. I was stalked before. One of my closest friends has put a man behind jail for attempted rape. Two of my other closest friends got sexually assaulted. I thought what they had experienced was weird too until I had to go to the police myself. I am not in anyway saying AMALT. I think men are generally good. But there’s still bad ones out there that we need to be cautious of. If we are to say like 1% are bad, chances are, you still are likely going to come across one eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:10 PM
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Lean and toned. I don’t require anyone to look like this from the very beginning, but should be reasonably shaped and should be willing to put in the work. I think so? I know it is possible to not eat like crap. I cut out most processed foods, refined carbs and sugar from my diet. I work out everyday and keep myself toned too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:04 PM
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Well some redpill men liked to claim that men desire to spread their seed, rather than to be with the highest value woman possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:20 PM
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Elaborate please
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:34 PM
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I think marital status lookup should be available for both genders. Salary and political views are a bit much. Political views could not only be used for dating but could be used for political profiling in other cases too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:07 PM
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Socioeconomic status differences usually end up in the upper SES not seeing the lower SES as seriously and lower SES becoming playthings or replaceable. Middle class men could be alright with lower-middle class women, but generally speaking, any more than that is not going to end in a marriage. If it does happen, she will probably have to be alright with some side pieces. Many rich women do screw around with young pretty thangs too, but that's about it. Short term fun happens across SES but not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:59 PM
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I lived in a small town for a long while, and there's stark differences in the dating culture between the small town vs. a major city where I live now for Zillennials that I am able to observe. Most of my contacts on Facebook in that town are already married and often with kids in their mid-late 20's. They have a very small isolated society. No, they aren't Mormons but it is a Christian town. I think a big part of the problem is that people in urban areas is people attempting to date strangers. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:44 PM
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I don't think it is about looks, but rather the dating style of the woman. I don't think it is very realistic to be vetting a complete stranger. Anyone can act a certain way for short bursts of time in limited settings, and people for sure will in high stake situations. I think ideally, you need to observe the person in the wild in various settings when the person is not overly motivated to be seen a certain way. I think you have to see yourself as a mindreader or have to be very naive about peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:45 AM
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There were life circumstances we couldn't overcome, and we broke up amicably in a mature manner was probably the best answer you could give.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:55 PM
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I got a D in Religion so that I could transfer out of a Catholic school for example. I probably should have gotten an F, but the teacher didn't fail me. My parents played their cards, and I played mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:24 PM
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Living the good life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:19 PM
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In my next life maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:16 PM
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What makes you think I was that good of a kid...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:14 PM
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Making your partner choose between a pet and oneself is stupid. A pet is a dependent and requires human care but you are an adult and human that is not a dependent and should be capable of taking care of oneself. It is actually a red flag if the person doesn't realize that and chooses the partner instead. It is irresponsible. I even believe pets should come before adult human children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:09 PM
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How so? My first cat is being nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:09 PM
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My first cat is so insanely possessive of me. She is also stubborn AF. She reminds me of me. smh I don't think she is going to give in and she will not stop at nothing until she gets what she wants. I am getting told that I'm getting a taste of my own medicine. https://phys.org/news/2019-02-cats-owner-personality.html Now I am rethinking whether I actually want a kid like myself or not. What a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:59 PM
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It is actually weird for someone to not go to university in my culture. I at least try to be somewhat culturally appropriate too especially on the outside. I don't have standards like "makes as much as me" or "as educated as me". But someone who goes against my culture too much ain't for me. Must have a bachelor's from at least a questionable school and having an acceptable job for my culture are my minimum. FYI, I'm 100% the type to give up on marrying a guy if my family disapproves, and that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:46 PM
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Huh it doesn’t sound like fitness is basically his entire life. You might need to elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:51 PM
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Eh I still don't care for mediocrity that lacks the discipline to succeed. Either someone has the discipline to get somewhere or they don't. Mediocrity will fail one along the way anyway, and mediocre people will just let life dictate itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:32 AM
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We'd have to agree to disagree. I still think it is a lack of discipline. I don't get fat people who have the opportunity to eat less to lose fat, and I don't get students who have every opportunity to study but refuse to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:50 AM
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Are you sure? That surely wasn’t the case when I was in school in Asia. But Asian parents have definitely gotten soft. We used to drive our kids to suicide over education and I’m from that generation, but it sounds like too many of them have overcorrected. They knew how to “motivate” both boys and girls back then. But honestly, a lack of discipline should be fixed by the parents, and they should figure out how. Forget academics. What is anyone going to do without discipline? It sounds like a lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:15 AM
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We are talking about not too high level schooling here I think, not to excel in a field and make a name for oneself. The level of reasonable success we are speaking of is possible with just involved parenting for the majority of people imo. And we have less involved Asian parents too. They are just more involved in a general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:04 AM
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Maybe my definition of a friend is too limited. It could be fair to describe them as friends. But you know there are some people you haven't categorized yet, but have had some interesting conversations with that let you get to know each other to a degree and are already fond of. Not many anymore unfortunately. I am at the age where people are mostly paired up and the social circles are quite stagnant somewhat intentionally. I like to talk to strangers a bit too much and when I was younger, I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:25 PM
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I am not sure if I agree with this quote to begin with, but the general idea of what you are saying is, Women are not attracted to men who are violent, but to men who are capable of violence and choose to control it. or as Jordan Peterson puts it, A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control. The idea is supposed to be a bit more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:38 PM
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It is not as easy as you put it. I had the easiest time in high school when dating didn't come with strong expectations in regards to sex. I basically nuked my dating pool when I was the only one (with some exaggeration) not offering sex. Cause I nuked my SMV, my perceived RMV had to be really high, and high enough so that men would not decide to play the male version of AF/BB with me, and wait it out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:18 PM
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Simply slim women aren't valued enough by most guys to forego sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:10 PM
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Generally speaking without getting political, I don't think the schooling system was necessarily made FOR girls. It was made when we had involved parents. With uninvolved parents though, it just happened that girls were easier to manage. I don't think reforming the schooling system is the answer, as we have seen boys thrive in the same system. I feel that the discourse is asking the schools to do too much. Parents need to start raising their own kids again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:54 PM
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That doctor's son wasn't Asian by any measure. He was probably raised traditionally in a Christian household though with very involved parents. I really think so much of it is the parents and the general coddling mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:48 PM
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Acquaintances too? I guess? Would depend on how you would define a friend. Just someone who knows me well enough, are already fond of me and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:46 PM
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I don't know how I feel about this whole discourse. So I am Asian, and we are kinda known to do well academically regardless of gender. I think a lot has to do with parents' emphasis on education and how involved they are. In all of the schools I attended even in the West, boys made formidable competition academically. There was a non-Asian boy who's dad was a doctor and he excelled in pretty much EVERYTHING. I think it could be a lack of involvement of the parents and just parents being alright…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:44 PM
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I agree with your points. I circumvented this issue by dating someone I know and knows me. It does introduce a lot more new limitations, but it was the most realistic solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:28 PM
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2 is not always about leagues. A woman needs to make herself special and irreplaceable somehow. Being in a similar league superficially, but being perceived to possess something rare is also a possibility. I kinda think it is a chicken or an egg problem. Women who gave away sex easily got male attention a lot more easily. Men chased this easy access to sex. Then a lot of women added sex to their package to be competitive in the market. Some realized they were able to get attention with just givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:17 PM
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Love, probably not. Physical intimacy though... It is too much of an expectation rather than something special and worth waiting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:08 PM
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But if you want to maximize your chances of landing a high character woman for a LTR, you better focus on finding her in your 20s. I agree with this wholeheartedly. But many people of both genders seem to want to challenge their own mate value for too long and miss their best chance at a LTR. When they are challenging their mate value, sane wholesome people are pairing up. Then what's left on the market are the ones who didn't learn to be content with what they could get, and are too superficial…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:55 PM
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Actually a lot of women have much higher standards than this. 6’, 6”, 6-figure income, objectively attractive. My standards are below that. This is what she wrote in another comment. I don't think OP realizes there were enough women who didn't have such standards, and the majority of the men she is describing are already taken by those women. Wholesome people who learned fast enough are mostly gone from the market. She is late to the party. I don't think her being alright with men in their 40's …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:15 AM
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It wasn't average at best. Average zone height but still above the mean height-ish, cannot be fat, without children and good character. That man is a rare commodity in that age range imo. Women are surprisingly alright with men with a solid career track that aren't making as much for the time being, so they too mostly get taken by that time. Reddit is an odd place, but generally speaking irl for millennials, good charactered wholesome people who can appreciate good character have already accepte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:54 PM
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One's own value could be negligible if the answer to "where's all the good men/women" is "already taken". There's just lower ratio of them, more people to go through, more people that you need to vet correctly. Not impossible, but harder. It is exactly the same as you describe but gender reversed. It gets a lot more difficult for them to find each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:47 PM
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You aren't exactly aiming too high, but most men who fit your description are already taken or are with a kid. I literally know just one guy meeting your criteria who is single. He recently got out of a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:38 PM
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Shame you aren’t 35 yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:53 PM
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It is disturbing. But yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:40 PM
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I know of a law school where female students keep shared records of male students’ sexual performance. Not dick size, but sexual performance. It doesn’t just go like big pp, average pp, small pp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:35 PM
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I experienced both Eastern and Western traditionalism. Eastern Confucianism and Christianity in the West. I see my Godparents on the news for organizing pro-life protests to give you an idea. I am not anti-traditionalism, but it requires a heck load of nuances and caution, and the bases are competence at one’s roles and the willingness to sacrifice by all parties. It certainly is not a good idea for general mankind as most humans are selfish in nature. I think it probably would be best for only …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:08 AM
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But can we assume that they were content and knew what they wanted though? A drawn out relationship means that much more investment into the relationship, and they threw away all that "sunk cost". That could be even more concerning in a way. If they knew what they wanted, they would have stayed forever, but after years, they decide it isn't right for them. It could potentially be better for someone to treat relationships seriously, but doesn't take as long to figure out whether they determine if…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:33 AM
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Certain things sound great on paper. How realistic they are in practice as actual guidelines as well as the outcomes seem to be something many people have to discover for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:08 AM
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I actually agree on the differences in male and female general tendencies that work like a spectrum. However, a leader who has not earned the respect and submission can always be challenged. It is a place that is earned. People capable of leading do end up in that role on their own. Giving submission in itself is being convenient. It is similar to feeding ugly women's ego and wooing her by calling her hot. For already married couples, yes, it could be the only fix cause they didn't marry a leade…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:38 AM
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As my first comment suggests, I am not saying women should be fat disrespectful bitches either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:00 AM
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I don’t mean convenient as cooperative. I literally mean convenient. RPW is a guideline to women who lack leverage in the dating market or want that added convenience to mean more than what it does. It is beta bux but a female version of it. RPW is not a new concept, but like TRP, it was just coined by online communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:40 PM
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I don't agree on RPW on many levels, so I am leaving my comment here. As long as we are biological creatures, youth and beauty matter in attraction. However, it is important to make sure you are valued for other things too other than just youth and beauty. Make sure your man values you for your intrinsic value rather than just your superficial, and of course, you should have enough intrinsic value to begin with. You have to have something special that he doesn't see in other women. By the way, R…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:40 PM
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So here's a counter argument, not that I completely disagree with you. I think getting out of a very long relationship could be seen as a downside too. It is also possible to think of it as a semi-marriage that ended in a semi-divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:37 PM
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Idk. I don’t think it is wrong, but could be a bit stupid depending on the impression that you want to make. But I still would prefer to not waste my time and just know these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:29 PM
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Genuinely, don't have sex with someone that you can't trust. In this case, he trusted her words too much. Like my mom taught me, don't have sex until you can be responsible for a child, and only with a man you want to have a family with. Sex is a much bigger responsibility than a lot of modernized people make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:39 PM
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It is not that I disagree with you completely, but it does limit one’s dating pool and introduces new difficulties in dating. It is a trade off. A realistic one? Oftentimes not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:16 PM
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An old ass statistic, but the closest one that I can think of. https://www2.hawaii.edu/~elaineh/79.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:24 PM
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I think most of us think companionship is great, but too many people don't make particularly great companions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:14 PM
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Foreign women do tend to adjust their expectations to the western standards a lot. I for sure would not have chosen a traditional minded man from my home country. The problem is when the women choose to live a certain way and want certain attitudes from men en masse. Men might need to readjust as well if they don't want to make their dating pool even smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:02 PM
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I often make the distinction between western and men from my home country when I’m speaking in DM. There’s huge differences in how they perceive women and what’s normalized. However, I think redpill knowledge is way more widely accepted in cultures that aren’t as PC. Redpill is pretty much a common belief where I’m from. I do agree with you that the obsession with virginal women on PPD is kinda odd. Virginal women are not that desired in the West. It is a self-sabotage more than anything ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:26 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:14 AM
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You can deny it all you want. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:13 AM
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Let's not pretend you didn't know where you stood lookswise in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:13 AM
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Conventional beauty standards exist. Facial harmony, balance and ratios are often talked about to really understand how most people perceive beautiful. You can even look up the golden ratio used in architecture. There seems to be fairly universal agreement on what our brains perceive to be harmonious or beautiful. There's subjective aspects of beauty, but beauty can also be objective enough to be studied and be of interest of many people's. Enough people believe there's something to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:57 AM
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It is not just about fairness. I would get an ick. If my boyfriend gets an ick from my past cause I have more dating experience than him, that's valid too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:14 AM
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Having a threesome or two is crazy. But ultimately it is up to the inexperienced virgin to determine if it is unfair or not, and to decide whether they are alright with it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:05 AM
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fat people should be made to buy two tickets or made to buy business/first class tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:41 PM
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I don't believe humans are born with a clean canvas of a personality to begin with anyway. We all have our innate personalities that we were born with, then what "changes" could be us figuring out mechanisms to survive/deal with stuff with the personalities we are given. In general, I think those are just dormant traits, not traits that got developed from nothing innate at all. Those dormant traits come out a lot faster than expected in a lot of people surprisingly ime. The genetic aspect of per…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:01 PM
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<image> Say hello :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:54 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:20 PM
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Did you just get him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:16 PM
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Oh. She hasn’t flown yet. Soon though. Poor kitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:19 PM
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I am waiting for my new kitty at the airport. I can’t wait to meet her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:16 PM
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Maybe consider moving to the countryside. There are more people in their 20’s with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:11 PM
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pilates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:50 AM
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Plastic surgery's equivalent is plastic surgery. Shoe lift's close equivalent is makeup. Pump and dump's closest equivalent is probably milking orbiters or foodie calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:39 PM
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I think it is still important to be aware of the potential unintended consequences as well. It is like knowing the side effects of a drug. It is just that the internet often lacks nuance, and people are often speaking from a place of hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:36 PM
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Hey hannah :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:26 PM
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My money is on her being just as brain rotted as many PPD peeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:13 PM
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I am my boyfriend’s first girlfriend and despite us being the same age, I am able to see that due to the difference in relationship experience, he could have bitten off a bit more than he can chew. I already know what I like and how to get what I like, but he doesn’t really. He has been getting better with boundary setting and communication though. I think people with experience do have “an upper hand” in a lot of things and the ones who lack experience will often end up being the ones being mol…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:30 PM
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I think a lack of relationship experience can also jade one overtime. Life does jade a lot of people. For whatever reason, if one is unable to give the benefit or the doubt, one is in a state that is incapable of love. And the reason could be unrelated to relationship experience as well. It could even be due to one’s family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:51 PM
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I don't think the grass is greener on the other side. Women just need better vetting skills than men in general. And it happens so that our previous generation have not giving proper vetting advice to their children. I'd hate to be a woman with no guidance. I personally got enough to navigate it. I don't necessarily think the desert is makings of women. SMP exists because there's people with traits that are generally more desired in both genders. In more monogamously regulated communities, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:10 PM
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I am a conservative leaning moderate and I prefer men who are just ever so slightly more liberal than myself, but still a moderate. I don't get along with people who associate themselves with just one political belief/party. There's pros and cons to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:25 PM
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If women stay at home, they genuinely think they could do better than the man if she had the same opportunity very often. Therefore what you are proposing does not satisfy hypergamy. Women think they lacks the opportunity, not the competence. Women feeling inferior to mediocre men doing mediocre stuff en masse would be the funniest thing under patriarchy. What makes things work is financial leverage. And hey, if you are claiming the West still "shows patriarchy" to a significant enough degree to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:15 PM
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I am refuting your core assumption that is your fundamental premise of your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:04 PM
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As a woman who originally comes from a culture that still knows patriarchy, the post is kinda funny. If women stay at home, they genuinely think they could do better than the man if she had the same opportunity very often. Also, they compare their husbands to other men who are doing better. Marriages were stronger because men had financial leverage, not because women thought men were better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:46 PM
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So many people I went to high school with ended up together, not because they were high school sweethearts, but because they reconnected after moving back to their home city after college. I am one of the people who got together with someone from my high school after losing contact with him for like a decade. She said it isn't necessarily about lasting, but somehow finding each other later on in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:46 AM
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Being an Asian-American puts you in a very different spot imo. Women who date outside of their _ tend to be quite different imo from who you might have access to. They often date _ cause they are against their own culture and idealize western culture that you might denounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:04 PM
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If you are too busy to read the whole thing, here's an article written based on the study. Surprisingly, people satisfied with sex in their relationship were more likely to engage in infidelity, perhaps suggesting they felt more positive about sex in general and would seek it out regardless of how they felt about their main relationship. Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person’s own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men — meaning le…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:37 AM
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source of what I said above. I have my suspicions but you might just want to ask Ai and ask for evidence along with the potential reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:42 AM
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Among women, less attractive women cheat more. Among men, men with less attractive women cheat more. Apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:15 AM
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People have been telling guys to deal drugs for a while on PPD tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:38 PM
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Only a minority of people are demisexual, but I do not think that degree of sex positivity is normal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:50 PM
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He has an upturned nose which is considered especially unattractive on men. The end of his nose needs to be lower. He'd be fine once he fixes that. Unfortunate really. Men often seem to think the jawline is what makes or breaks a male face, but it really is the T zone. The jawline is mostly male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:11 PM
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There's differences in circumstantial vs. voluntary. I only care for voluntary actions. Has only had sex within very committed relationships should keep people's n-count rather low and is relatively acceptable in my book. If I only went for strict volcels, my dating pool would be close to nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:31 PM
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The passport bro who used to come to PPD to write about his experiences did rank [forbidden word] and how he said he would try to marry women of certain [forbidden word] before he needs to settle for other [forbidden word]. Of course, he dates women from the group that he ranked the lowest at this moment. Honestly, there's guys who like Asians, and would go for them even when they have plenty of options. However, the only way of knowing what someone is truly attracted to is to see what they do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:21 PM
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Probably? But I am getting weirded out by his skin folding from his smile. Think his skin is too thin or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:39 PM
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Idk if she is sexually reserved and is looking for a man who is similar, there’s no issue other than her dating pool being worse than a puddle. If not, she’d better figure out what’s keeping her single or a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:23 PM
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So my boyfriend who is still a virgin said to me that virgin shaming was a thing in his university, and back then, it was only guys who were shaming him. I am not sure about how it would be now though. After university, he said people didn’t talk about it anymore but also that it could be his group of friends he interacted with. He also said he is unsure if they knew at all. They did know he was single for as long as they’ve known him, and he wasn’t mocked for it. They all got excited once we st…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:07 PM
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I think a way to confirm a woman’s perceived RMV is to not compete with other women using sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:26 AM
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People seem to find their partners by their mid 20’s at the latest in general and then get married in their late 20’s. And no, these women/men did not “have their fun in their youth”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:48 AM
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People probably don't ask for n counts straight up, so you don't get to just lie. You can basically get an idea from his lifestyle, his friends and his family members' lifestyle and reactions. My boyfriend's friends' dating history and their reactions confirmed what I believed to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:55 AM
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You’d probably be surprised to hear that we both are good looking especially by Asian standards though. We are Asian. He has women cold approaching or dropping signs from time to time in the west and all the time in Asia and paired up Asian women calling him handsome all the time. I talk about him here cause PPD would find it not meaningful at all for a woman to talk about her experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:43 PM
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Probably not THAT high, and such feeling was probably mutual. We first met back in high school, and I just happened to catch my boyfriend's eyes all the time, but it wasn't anything crazy at first. On my end, I realized he liked me eventually, and I genuinely asked myself whether I'd able to kiss him or not. It wasn't even close to oh I'm insanely attracted to him. We find each other very attractive now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 07:55 AM
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Maybe or fund partially. I am not completely against the idea. I might have him agree to follow my prescriptions of surgeries and nothing more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:35 PM
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Actually unattractive to the point that he isn't even in the average zone? Plastic surgery. I think there's certainly a point where plastic surgery is more than understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:27 PM
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I have always been into musicians to a stupid degree. They make my brain dumb. I am taken now but I like someone that I already know in my social circle. If I didn't get with my boyfriend who I met in high school, I would have tried out some people from my family's list of guys. I like to be spoiled with "acts of service" and a lot of admiration, appreciation and affection. I can cook very well? I live fairly reasonably on my own income, but I have a hefty inheritance so there's always financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:33 AM
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It is still doable. My mom's side is extremely good looking, and some succeeded and one failed miserably. Ironically, the prettiest one is the one who failed. But your friend might not have had enough intel if she doesn't come from wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:29 PM
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The more desirable one is, the better vetting skills one needs. Since more people will treat you better in order to get with you, vetting gets harder. She needed better vetting skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:16 PM
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I haven't slept with anyone, but I went out with my boyfriend back in high school then I chose him again after about a decade of having no contact with each other. I've dated different types of men, but I've always liked my bf's type.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:41 PM
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There are circumstantial low-n’s who have lacked desirable opportunities or just young people who just happen to be low-n and there’s intentional low-n’s or virgins. Ppd often just groups both together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:00 PM
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Don't have that insecurity cause fat is something within my control and I have already managed to get it completely under my control. Just insult my face instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:51 PM
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It has only been two weeks smh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:30 PM
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i would assume they strongly valued commitment vs variety and new experiences I've been thinking the same. It is probably about how seriously you take the relationship to begin with, and them having previous experiences probably means that they were trying until they found reasonable compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:23 PM
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Fyi, I don't think that at all. I asked the question cause I heard my bf's lil bro who is in high school is already dating with marriage in mind. He does very well with girls though apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:15 PM
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So what traits of theirs kept them together do you think? What kind of mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:28 PM
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I do wonder though... If she falls, does it hurt less for her? I guess not. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:28 PM
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I wonder what traits tend to keep high school sweethearts together.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:21 PM
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I am size 00 and I would not recommend it to anyone else. I just happen to be an insane asian chick who is into asian looksmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:14 AM
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Only food is essential in my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:33 AM
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ah he has mentioned in the past that the face has to be above average too cause 19-21 bmi should just be a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:27 AM
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Idk. I like kpop pretty boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:06 AM
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What do you agree with and what do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:43 PM
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I’m a Zillennial and that’s how it works and has worked around me. I second your suspicion. It is quite normal for women to not take the initiative to not appear easy and to confirm a man’s interest towards her. I think sexually open women could be a lot more forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:56 PM
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Being indiscriminate with your desire is still not a virtue. A positive outcome came out of having relatively indiscriminate desire. However, having virtue is about displaying high moral standards. There is no morality in what's naturally given. Virtue is about conscious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:53 AM
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I don't think women usually get with their tunnel vision guy, but with the first guy who is among the guys she thinks are good enough and has made the move. Women are not that proactive, and take a way more passive role in dating for your scenario to work for the majority of the time. Not saying that it does not happen. But I do agree with the last paragraph. The guy already has to have to be deemed good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:57 AM
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I have the final say in my relationship. I don’t want it in any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:17 PM
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sine120's experience And likeminded people kinda end up hanging out with each other too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:59 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/yrbs/dstr/index.html I think you'd find this pretty interesting. Being from the Asian community and hanging out with a lot of Asians, I do tend to mingle with those who have much lower counts. Also, the Christian town I used to live in still get married very young so I presume there are demographics that bring the averages down. That being said, big cities would most likely consist of people who bring the average up. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:14 PM
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u/okaybear2point0
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:19 AM
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We need okbear in here. He would be shaking his head with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:14 AM
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How I would rank docility Japanese >>>>> Korean >> Chinese
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:10 AM
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Most East Asian women are Chinese... and I would not call Chinese women docile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:03 AM
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a woman from an East Asian culture how would you describe her in a general sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:59 AM
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They too often bring up circumstantial low-n females who just happen to have low-n for the time being in conversations imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:33 PM
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So I went to a rooftop bar with my boyfriend and this specific bar had exactly what you are talking about and there were more women there than men btw. Meanwhile, my boyfriend's little brother is a teen in high school and he dates with no issues at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:15 PM
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Young people have more circumstantial virgins that just didn't lose their virginity yet. Intentional virgins exist. Many of them most likely won't be kissless though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:09 AM
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For me, there was a location factor. In multicultural cities, it's been fine. In a predominantly white conservative town, I felt like a weird outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:38 PM
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They can do whatever. I am not scared of the results or the results being revealed to my boyfriend. It is whether he thinks he can give me the benefit of the doubt based on what he thinks of me. His family members are not him, and were strangers at the time they asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:21 PM
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PEOPLE, I have finally found a hairdresser in one more city. Think it was the fourth one we've tried in this particular city. Been looking for like 1.5 yr.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:17 PM
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I think I could take it if it was to prove myself to someone else other than my boyfriend preferably a person not knowing much about my character already. Like if it was his grandmother or his grandfather especially if their family had something to protect, I would. I would keep a courteous relationship with them afterwards too. It is crucial that the people who directly form very close relationships with me to value me for my character first and foremost, and I do not want to be questioned on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:06 PM
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100%. I am pro-gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:49 PM
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He has admitted in the past that she also has to have above average face or something. It can't just be a healthy chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:48 PM
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Asian beauty standards are on another level, and having grown up with literal models in my family probably doesn't help either. Along with a lot of families I grew up around having successful dads with pretty wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:46 PM
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I will remember to stay in a corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:35 PM
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I think I have usually agreed with you silently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:26 PM
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The expectation is loud music in a dark place with a lot of people. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:14 PM
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I will provide you with a visual lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:05 PM
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All this club talk has reminded me that I actually want to experience clubbing at least once before I really age out of it. My first 2025 new experience plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:00 PM
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I wasn't talking about you. Virgin has a very strong connotation imo especially at her age. And your dating market shifts quite a bit depending on how prudish you are. And her n-count makes her an extreme outlier in the market she probably wants to date in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:26 PM
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This has got to be a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:18 PM
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In my culture too. I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:11 PM
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Just don’t go for guys who would prefer prudes. Your n-count has initially suggested that you could be a prude. You just probably aren’t, and that’s that. Nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:10 PM
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The interesting thing I’ve learned in my culture is that while those clubbing people do become bfs/gfs/husbands/wives, it is almost always a horrible idea for them to meet each other at the club for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:06 PM
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I have about half your kiss count and my LTR count is about the same. It isn’t just about the count is what I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:00 PM
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How casually you kissed does not match up with your n-count is probably their problem. Very different image for each.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:45 PM
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I think it is an opportunity to make a special moment with someone special. But it is not the end of the world if it is not with someone that special either. I don't regret my first kiss but my boyfriend really treasures his first kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 11:57 PM
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Music >>>>>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 11:25 PM
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I think around n-2 is what’s usually the most desired among mid and maybe late twenties. But not necessarily the count itself, but her actions being only have had sex within LTR’s and reasonable and predictable LTR history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:49 PM
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Old post I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:59 AM
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A male friend asking out the female friend out does work if the female friend already had mutual feelings for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:43 AM
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Not at all. Who knows what happens when? or if it would happen at all or what would be the right oh wow stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:39 AM
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Only works when there's an "oh wow" moment or something of the sort that makes you look at the person in a different light imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:30 AM
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It is just a classic prisoner’s dilemma. In this scenario, keep playing the game, become so attractive that you can take yourself off the game and still win or dumpster dive (basically take advantage of smv), or just quit playing the game. It is what it is. I don’t like the current dating norms for my own reasons, but an individual cannot change the whole market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:02 PM
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Hygiene, weirdo to not meet them. Grooming, I think the vast majority of people should take more advantage of. It is way beyond the realm of “reasonable” or “acceptable” to me. It is totally something to be utilized. Just “get a haircut” is not that effective imv. There are styling methods to trick our eyes like with optical illusions, and these methods can balance out your features up to a certain point. This can really help unless you have significantly detrimental feature beyond balancing out…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:55 PM
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Idk I think your problem is more with other men tbh, cause the expectations that you speak of mostly exist cause men offer them, and you end up doing it too. There’s no reason for women to expect or want less when there’s so many guys just plainly offering.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:39 PM
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That was probably me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:51 AM
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My family visited me from Asia and told me someone is obese when I was thinking the person was just slightly overweight. It is not about falling for the propaganda, but what our brains perceive as the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:43 PM
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Among the currently active, Dune.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:04 AM
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I think the resolutions people stick with tend to be the ones that were set mid-year that you start on that exact day, not new year's resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 01:07 AM
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I think the more involved the father is, the more likely it is for him to give such advice. And no, the advice was never to hate all men. The advice was for not being naive and to not make stupid decisions. Mine also taught me about humankind's (both genders) common lack of virtue and our cardinal sins though. It just happens to tie in together with dating too. I come from a traditional background, and now that my dad is gone, his best friend has stepped up to meet my boyfriend along with my gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:53 PM
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A lot of women on this sub emphasise how no <25 year old women would be interested in a +20 year age gap relationship. I don't say the above, but I say this instead. So the question is, would these same women be better off if they had married older men (of similar attraction to men they are currently attracted to) in their early/mid 20s? That is a question they would have to answer for themselves. Me personally, I think I would be too depressed to even have a family if my value was at the bottom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:12 PM
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In the country that I am from, men are okay with casually dating plastics, but not marrying them. Most men just see makeup as a given, since it is so commonly worn. However there could be men who seem to need to approve of a woman’s looks without makeup, and I definitely know at least one. He is good looking himself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:48 PM
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I want to see what you think 22 BMI looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:55 AM
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While I agree that physical prime matters, unfortunately what you call baggage is what often makes people of both genders less naive and keep them from less desirable outcomes for themselves that would end up repeating stuff that gave them baggage in the first place. It is absolutely easier to be shitty with more naive partners, and many people do target romantic interests this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:00 AM
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Still strangers regardless. Strangers can always mask especially when they have something to gain out of it. The most reliable way to vet is by meeting someone in the wild and observing the person in different situations when the perceived stakes are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:24 PM
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I am against attempting to date strangers as a whole. This includes attempting to get to know someone in order to date the person. 3 dates, 5 dates, 10 dates all apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:45 PM
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I think she means if someone is going to fuck THAT soon (on the third date), might as well just fuck on the first date, cause they are basically the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:26 PM
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You would not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:17 AM
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I was recently asked if I have a good person (marriage material with similar values) to set up with a nice Chang. Someone I have a fairly high opinion of vouched for this Chang’s character. I really don’t have anyone suitable and it is such a shame. Marriage materials are so damn rare and Asian culture puts even more limitations imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:45 AM
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This is why I have a treadmill at home. I just have no excuse to not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:15 AM
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Might be worth considering that gay marriages are more likely to be open.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:46 AM
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My boyfriend does NOT have a gym body, but has a pretty face and he gets a lot of attention. Some of his experiences with women are hilarious even. Face trumps almost everything imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:29 AM
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The biological link matters very little in many families while family that you choose can save you. It really depends on the people involved. While you can't choose what kind of shitty people that could be in your family that you are born into, you can vet for people you choose to become family with. People should learn to choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:52 PM
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Some men really do only see you for your looks and will want commitment if your looks are way up there. But you could screw up your life by choosing a man who only values you for your looks and youth, and that was my mom, an old Stacy’s lesson. What men value about you matters, not just that they value you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:22 AM
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This is what is often expected within marriages in my culture. I don’t agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:07 PM
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Thanks text redacted :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:13 PM
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Thank you, Hannah 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:05 PM
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Odd way to spread the holiday spirit, but I will take it. Thanks! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:04 PM
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Thanks PB :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:01 PM
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Did not downvote. I don’t ever downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:01 PM
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Thank you! 🤍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:52 PM
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Thanks DryAd :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:52 PM
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Merry Christmas everyone. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:43 PM
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I am making escargot tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:37 PM
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Many women convince themselves that their value is intrinsic, but deep down, they fear that much of their worth has been tethered to their youth and physical attractiveness, a currency that fades faster than they want to admit. My mom has always taught me that I need to look for a man who value me for more than my youth and my looks, and that I have to have such a value. However, I also know that my value cannot ever be completely independent of my looks or my youth. The anger older women feel t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:17 PM
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I was thinking just now how PPD often talks about n-0 women have the lowest rate of divorce and all, but I do not really see n-0 as a sign of mere non-promiscuity but an unconventional trait of people who have some kind of different beliefs. So I think it could be meaningful to compare the stats of maybe n-2 women to n-8+ women and so on rather than always using the uber religious/old school women as the benchmark. I think people are very uninformed and/or dismissing of our values and their impa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:08 PM
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Among the women I know sexual history of, I know at least two more cultural virgins in real life who kept their virginities to their late twenties+. We certainly exist. We just don’t broadcast it. Even the cultural virgins don’t get married that early anymore if they go to university.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:50 PM
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My boyfriend was a 27 year old virgin when we started dating. My couple is very sexually reserved due to cultural reasons though. Ange's couple is religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:42 PM
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I use the phrase, leftover market for the skewed market you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:28 PM
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Him. Any male without a severe health issue is stronger than me. Very weird premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:25 PM
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My BF% is lower than my bf's and I have visible abs and he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:11 PM
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You know we are friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:40 AM
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My boyfriend and I both have extremely boring last names. We are basically the Smiths of Asia. We are going with neither of our names. The kids will have the name of the company I'm founding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:00 PM
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I was listening to a song today and I was reminded of a lesson I learned. I sometimes say on PPD that I look for a guy who is more virtuous than myself. I once thought I could be the better person in a relationship and keep the relationship going with me being more gracious. I was wrong. Human flaws know no bounds especially when it comes to lack of virtue. Relationships only prosper when both people are virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:57 PM
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I sometimes watch vids of food I’d never in a million years eat to curb my appetite. Watch disgusting stuff instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:49 PM
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Yeah these guys probably have the worst gender ratio in a niche market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:09 PM
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When my lips were super chapped, using moisturizing products beforehand worked better than lip balms. I used something like a night cream that has both water and oil then sealed it with lip balm. And drink more water I guess. If your chapped lips don't improve with this, I am not too sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:10 PM
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I agree with this comment, but under 5'7 instead of under 5'6. I think humans are able to sense what is out of the norm instinctively, and 5'7 is within one standard deviation from the mean height, but 5'6 isn't. 5'7 should not immediately register as short and make too much of an impression, but I think once you are noticeably short, it does start to register. Anyway, I never consciously had or set a height preference but the shortest men I've been into were 5'7.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:24 AM
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I am not actually that against my family setting me up. My parents were arranged with veto powers and had a lifelong marriage. But basically, I am required to get my family's approval in order to marry someone. I don't have a problem with it. I trust their wisdom and that they have my best interests at heart while also respecting me. I think you have to have a pretty healthy relationship with your parents to be okay with something like this though. Some parents can truly suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:53 PM
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But really, how would you navigate this? It would be a pretty big deal for the both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:25 PM
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I’m not the solution to everything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:06 PM
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There's a minority of women who are okay with dating much older men, and successful enough men are going to be able to bag these minority of women. They can both end up satisfied. However this doesn't mean that these much older men are going to appeal to everyone. The mistake men often make is how wide the appeal is, but regardless, they should be able to get a young chick who belong in the minority and get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:59 AM
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I am a prudish volcel woman and I too think it is highly unlikely that virgins are sought after as much as PPD claims. My ex-fuckboy friend told me he would not have touched me with a ten foot pole. Most people know their crowd and stick to their crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:53 PM
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That's not something I plan on dealing with ever. My mom has told me that she picked my dad because she believed no other man could or would treat her as well as he would. My mom was always the best treated wife in all our social circles. I also chose such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:14 PM
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Not just that, but you literally sign a contract that makes sure that the government gets involved if you want to break up This is how I thought exactly. My stance on marriage all changed when I finally met the guy I wanted to marry. I did not care for it at all previously, but now I want it. It was the weirdest change. My parents did have a til-death-do-them-part marriage however and loved each other til the very end. My boyfriend is the first person I could see having something like what my pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:05 PM
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There's a minority of women who are okay with dating much older men, and successful enough men are going to be able to bag these minority of women. They can both end up satisfied. However this doesn't mean that these much older men are going to appeal to everyone. The mistake men often make is how wide the appeal is, but regardless, they should be able to get a young chick who belong in the minority and get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:36 PM
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Irl experience wise, I do agree that virgins are not sought after. But as a Zillennial, the dating woes around me seem to be the leftover market, rather than drastically diminished mate value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:28 PM
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Not that I disagree with your CMV completely, but the part where you say men going through a hoe phase (or serial monogamy) would vanish the brainrot concerning virgins immediately seems to be untrue when you look at PPD. There’s way too many non-virgin men who seem to desire virgin women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:06 AM
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I would want to know. I would not continue the relationship. "Monogamous relationship" can either be serial monogamy or lifelong monogamy. Marriage is a lifelong monogamous relationship. Monogamy is basically an agreement between the parties involved. I don't think I have ever been overtaken by lust. Personally, I think sexual desire is way more controllable than love. I am a volcel fyi. I certainly would trust my partner to never cheat in a moment of opportunity. If I didn't, we would not have …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:10 AM
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I would be looking for a marriage material. I am a zillennial. I needed to know the person well enough to confirm all the below traits. We found each other (again) then started to discuss marriage within a couple months. Is openminded enough to genuinely listen to others and change his mind. I do the same, and it is one of the qualities people close to me value the most about me including my boyfriend. Is mature. He is considerate of others, takes accountability (always finds faults in oneself b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:17 PM
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The way I see it is, it is ultimately his decision. And I think on one hand, he is being wise because money and fame brings too many fake people into your life. But I also think that she or the couple needs to deal with the situation better if they want to stay together. Whatever is going on right now doesn't seem to be working.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:19 PM
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Probably depends on how good you were before but a quick review of the material you studied shouldn’t hurt. If you can already hold a conversation, immersion for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:36 PM
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He looks better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:12 PM
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It is my mom’s way of life sorta. Whenever she hires people, she makes sure she has substantial knowledge to keep them on their toes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:21 AM
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Oh I just put on makeup to go to the salon. I feel that I need to look as if I care a bit more so that the hairdresser would perform a bit better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:13 AM
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You know I lurk. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:10 AM
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Hey lily :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:28 AM
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Got my hair done and have makeup on for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:27 AM
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My bf’s hair is almost at this length. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:25 AM
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What’s different in my story is that I was not seeking out external validation. This part is different from your hypothesis. I don’t think seeking out external validation through the use of makeup was the helpful part though, cause it could increase your reliance on makeup too. There was just a moment in time when I realized I look decent enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:55 PM
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I was once deeply insecure due to being less pretty than my mom so that was why I always put on makeup and stuff. It was not about external validation, but really about not being able to accept myself. I still know I am not as pretty as my mom but I feel secure about my own looks now so I very rarely wear makeup. So basically, I think it could be about one’s own insecurity rather than trying to fish for external validation. Unexpected external validation actually helped me with my self image and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:27 PM
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Probably Eulen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:42 PM
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SMP only exists cause there's individuals widely desired over others among both genders. But there's still non-delusional people who come to terms with what they can afford and can be content. People who argue otherwise and fixate on the top league don't belong in my life. Fixating on what they don't have and never learning to navigate the situation is not an attitude I like. It is why I dislike liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:03 PM
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Damn… I just saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:37 PM
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I prefer to be the one who is more conservative and pessimistic in my relationship. For example, my friend group is all conservative voters, and my bf’s friend group is all non-promiscuous liberal voters with my bf being a moderate. At the same time, I would not take a guy seriously if he solely engages with people who only confirm many of those beliefs rather than approaching it with nuisance and see it as a subset/exaggeration. If he only knows afbb women and promiscuous people, our lives are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:49 PM
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Your title and your body do not match up well. Wanting commitment is different from wanting the traditional roles fulfilled. Anyway, people have to make themselves more desirable in one way or another usually in order to get what they are not currently wanting but not getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:20 PM
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When it comes to attracting men on a superficial level, I do think that. I have a feminine exterior and I have attracted men who know nothing about me, but eventually asked me to be more ladylike when they were pursuing me or were involved with me. Some will put up with a lot as long as I look feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:57 PM
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Somewhat. I don’t like a right winger sheep, and I don’t like a left winger sheep. Finding an independent/moderate sure wasn’t easy, but I appreciate it every time we discuss politics. Fyi, there’s so many zillennial progressive guys. They are difficult to find at all. The real challenge was moderate with a libertarian streak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:58 PM
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I think low-n women are likely to be cautious around sex and have a difficult time dealing with the current dating climate where it is heavily sexualized and feel pressured in regards to sex. Also, it is easy to lock yourself out of the game when other women are providing sex, but you aren't. Men generally want sex, and sexually reserved women would have to bring something other than sex that's valued just as much to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:52 AM
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That's pretty horrible. I come from a rare functional household in my view, and even my parents' marriage wasn't close to perfect. My dad was a devout Christian, and I think religion is not the worst starting point of a guideline. I am not saying that you need to believe in God, but take the lessons to heart, and be and find someone the religion describes to be a decent person. I genuinely believe religion is the best alternative we have to fill in for the gap/lack of lessons that bad parenting …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:46 AM
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Not just the last name. All characters of my Asian name. How they work with my time of birth and all. There’s some complicated calculations to find a name that brings you the best fortune. The names can even sound exactly the same but different characters can give you a different fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:15 AM
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I feel you. I wish I had my mom's rare last name, but I can't change my name due to the naming practices and having a fate associated with the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:03 AM
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If it was an ick, probably not. If it was a reason she consciously eliminated you for, possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:48 PM
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Happy for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:33 PM
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You know our grandparents. Whatever they say goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:26 PM
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Medical school Law school Then none. The good old Asian way. Or somehow become a prof at a prestigious uni. Dental school is not medical school.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:12 PM
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Ah right pigeons. Don't get a parrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:58 AM
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They are loud and can't really be stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:27 AM
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Still pursue entrepreneurship but care about taxes less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:20 AM
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Why birds
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:19 AM
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You were raised religious right? I think I might have read that in one of your comments but please correct me if I am wrong. So you know how PPD often sites virginal women having dramatically lower divorce rates. I think (religious) people who don't prioritize sex could have a much higher OR different threshold for what they would break up a family over in general. I think you could be a bit too religious to understand sex positive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:18 AM
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How old are you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:01 AM
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although I think the average age for Asian countries are probably inflated a bit, since their greater pressure to appear more social conservative. I was actually surprised by the numbers provided for my country of origin and my bf's country of origin for being too low. We are both East Asians but are from different countries. We should have way more conservative outliers that do drive the average way up, and kids who are serious about their studies don't really get the opportunity to fool around…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:33 PM
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Human nature is human nature imo. Social conditions can only control how much human nature manifests, but human nature will always persist. I think 7 cardinal sins describe humanity very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:31 PM
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People who believe that focus on ig thots and thots who sell their sexuality probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:00 PM
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It is… and even if you end up getting one, I do not like that drawing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:42 AM
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Glad to hear that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:42 AM
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When you make an effort to not reveal your feelings by treating them any differently or being different around them, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:27 PM
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I had very strict parenting, and so did my boyfriend with emphasis on what's "right". What's interesting is that both our families managed to raise us without rejecting old fashioned values which a lot of younger people do nowadays. I think it is due to our family members caring a lot about decency. We both have things we are proud of and we want to preserve. I think the families with members who are more self-centered without decency or gratitude have kids who deny their roots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 11:45 PM
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I fit Asian beauty ideals relatively well, and been raised "properly" enough to make my own grandparents proud, and to the point that my boyfriend's mom thinks I embody Asian virtues and can tell that I come from a strict family. His grandma adores me for making him happy and I do make him happy, but just as important as that, I have the respect of his family members. I understand how I act is a reflection of my whole family, especially my parents, and I am very mindful of that. I will also rais…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:33 PM
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I do say love requires a lack of self-centeredness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:36 AM
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When I read her talking about STD tests, I was like, cool bro, you do you. I presume the people she engages with are very different, and is understandable to eh... want to check.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:21 AM
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Meh she is promiscuous. She has a reason to overcompensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:01 AM
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What's your opinion on availability then? Is there evidence that says even within the upper class, there exist women who go for macho masculinity? If so, it could be a matter of availability of different types of masculinity, rather than just utility impacting attraction to that degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:05 AM
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I think you could be focusing too much on utility, when attraction is very often illogical. I think it could be more about availability and perception of masculinity or what's attractive within the social class she belongs in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:41 AM
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Shhhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:17 AM
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I thought it could be because the only form of masculinity available among the lower class is macho masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:13 AM
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i told my parents we could put it in the backyard Classic. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:58 AM
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Cute lol I lived on the countryside so it was possible, but if you lived in a more residential area, you probably would have had to rent a spot at a stable or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:55 AM
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Little One.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:48 AM
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I had one but hated horseback riding, so ended up reading books anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:45 AM
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Extremely disrespectful for both genders. What's wrong with this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:57 AM
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There are two different factors to this, one being an economically driven factor and the other being masculine/feminine desires. I think women's decision to not get with poorer men could be very economically driven, and with having a lot of options especially in her prime, it makes very little sense to choose a poor one over a rich one all else being equal. I think most women in her prime who do opt for a relationship with a man who makes less are more likely to be okay with the arrangement, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:57 AM
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There are men like what I describe, and a lot of them. And there are women like what you describe, probably a lot of them too. Our partners are kept happy. So NAMALT and NAWALT, but they both definitely exist. Your OP came across as it is just the women, not the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:07 AM
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Ego and competitiveness are very much things that come with masculine nature. Unless the guy embraces femininity and does not wish to be seen masculine or has less need to feel masculine, it will always be a thing. Wanting to feel like a big man is a thing. They might be OPEN to dating higher earning women, but men who have such ego and competitive nature will often develop an inferiority complex, and will put his partner's achievements down while inflating his, and try to make her small to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:56 AM
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I'm pro-gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:02 AM
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Chad and Chadlites have higher standards than an avg woman with a full face of makeup. Those women could get sex from Chads and Chadlites, but not commitment. Chads and Chadlites go for faces that survive without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:30 PM
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You can call me a religious nut or just think I am being ridiculous. But I would open up the Bible and learn what kind of person the Bible teaches people to be. While trying to be a decent person, you will face temptations and see your own failings. I think the focus should be trying to be as decent as possible as a person, and learn how you deal with your own failings. Then look for what you perceive to be the highest form of virtue, and someone with aligning views on virtue, then the way they …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:50 PM
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Idk. That has always been the last of my worries since I put a lot of emphasis on one’s character. Cheating is an extreme fuckup in vetting if you did focus on character.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:48 PM
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History of cheating Turbulent relationship at the time of conception (separation) The only reason for marriage is due to unplanned pregnancy with someone you have not been in a stable relationship with Are very valid reasons for paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:19 PM
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I don't know if I would say happily single, but not particularly distressed was my state. Due to my prudishness, I am really single when I am single with no physical touch or close intimate contact. I think I am built a little different. So I really fare better in long distance relationships than the vast majority of people. I think maybe how well someone does in a long distance relationship could be a way to look at how well someone can manage without that closeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:14 AM
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Jaded can speak for me while I meditate elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:24 AM
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My facebook contacts from the small town that I lived in seem to have all gotten married with kids. The particularly decent kids have been off the market for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:13 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. Kids who eat a lot tend to grow a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:09 AM
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My first one was my dad. Why it is my only major fear now, and it is 100% out of my hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:06 AM
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Wth does he eat? You are 6’ from what I remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:58 AM
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Death of loved ones. Gonna happen though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:53 AM
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I lived in a small town like that and lived in a residential area of a big city in my adolescence. Just grab someone off of your yearbook. It is pretty much the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:51 AM
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Yeah if I want a conservative girl with a strict conservative background, unless I am an East Asian, I just won’t pass. It is what it is. Family legacy must be considered when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:39 PM
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I am an Asian woman from a strict conservative household. There’s no way interracial marriage is going to be accepted in my family or in any other conservative families. And I wish to raise my kids in a “proper” manner like I was raised. We plan to preserve our familial traditions, and only want spouses who fit the mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:26 PM
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I would not go for an asian as a white dude personally. Cause the old fashioned asian unicorns I would like would not go for a white dude. This is unicorn hunting though, not trying to wife up just anyone. A slim access to unicorns in the West is better than no access to unicorns in Asia. I am not trying to fvck/date around, I am trying to find the best mother for my kids with slim chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 09:41 AM
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They are in the extreme minority, as is my couple mostly due to us living in the West. Asian Americans just have slightly higher age range for it really getting out of the norm. It is either extremely devoutly religious for Westerners or abnormally old fashioned for Asians usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:09 AM
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I am waiting for marriage in the first place. I know people like me EXIST, and I am rather ancient. I included the Asian American statistics, cause I am a fairly old fashioned Asian myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:27 PM
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Okay I did some further digging, and it says SD is closer to 3 years than 2 years in recent data. That was dumb. Adjusting the numbers according to that, Average (mean): 17 years, +1 SD: 20 years, +2 SD: 23 years I still don't know for sure, but yeah at 23 yo, I think it is safe to say that it will be an out of the norm experience speaking from more experience than statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:24 PM
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If I am asked to give a number, I think statistically. +1 SD (19 years for Americans, 20.5 years for Asian Americans): Approximately 84% of the population loses their virginity at or before this age. +2 SD (21 years for Americans, 22.5 years for Asian Americans): Approximately 97.5% of the population loses their virginity at or before this age. I think +1 SD is out of the norm but still rather common, and +2 SD is definitely out of the norm. Actively trying or not trying does not matter as stati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:10 PM
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<image> Would be kinda concerning if anyone got anything at all. The questions made me want to facepalm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:05 PM
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She starts her long comment with I am a gold digger, then tries to justify it by throwing young guys under the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:16 PM
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Why the hell would we date guys that are still interested in clubbing, drugs and consuming insane amounts of alcohol while ‘accidentally’ cheating. Plenty of sane young guys out there. Kinda on you if you are not seeing them. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:33 PM
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Fixed OP: First, let me preemptively address a potential counterpoint. Let’s hypothetically envision the most attractive man who has ever existed. Now, let’s say this hypothetical man: Never gets aroused or initiates sex. Puts no effort into sexual intimacy or pleasing his partner. Makes no attempt to bond emotionally, engage in meaningful conversation, or foster a deeper connection. Contributes no financial support, resources, or investment into the relationship. Does everything with minimal or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:50 PM
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I fought with my dad so much but never with my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:54 AM
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At least PayPal is PayPal. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:48 PM
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That's a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:46 PM
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By the looks of Asian women's pictures you share, they look to be around 17 BMI, not 19-21 BMI. And yes, your life kinda has to revolve around your figure. My boyfriend calls me the military girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:43 AM
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It really depends on the person. I personally needed a lot more experience to figure out relationships, and my boyfriend needed very little. I am a very disagreeable person who disregards feelings, and my boyfriend is a very agreeable person who is a mega empath and loves to care for others. Willingness/ability to communicate, willingness/ability to compromise, and having the perseverance to not give up when things get hard are the main issues, but due to the gravity of the relationship and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:33 PM
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Voice but unless it gets to the squeaky ranges, I don't think I give that much of a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:51 PM
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At that point, I think she might have just forgotten. Cause what’s even the point of rounding down if she is still going to be considered a hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:03 PM
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The women who date outside of their usual circle are also serious orange flags. The sane ones are supposed to pair up within their social circles much earlier. That's like half the idea of leftover market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:43 AM
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Ppd had a discussion on that on daily thread. About the time most people get their first job being the last call before leftover market begins was pretty convincing. It gets worse overtime as sane ones get paired up and are never released back to the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:31 AM
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When the sane relatively desirable ones have paired up and mostly the ones less fit for relationships are left on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:20 AM
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It more often does in the leftover market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:13 AM
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I kinda find him amusing tbh, cause I see him as an actual crazy. 100% on a different level than the rest of ppd peeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:20 AM
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So I was slow. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:56 AM
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did you know before or was it me that gave you the hint? just curious lol jaded figured it out the fastest i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:51 AM
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Let her embarrass herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:04 AM
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Exactly. If I can't get through a 12 yo, it is 100% my fault. A baby? Send help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:03 AM
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Okay, I think I have figured out your last account. You are the guy who loved to get mad at an actual fictional woman from a TV series or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:58 AM
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I think I am going to enjoy a 12 yo infinitely more. Babies are too uncontrollable for my liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:47 AM
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Give her carrots
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:17 PM
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I called my family for the Mid-Autumn Festival, and my dad's relationship with my mom's family was brought up. My maternal grandpa described my dad as a great man who always did the right thing. My dad also always said my grandpa is the man he looks up to the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:41 PM
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I think he actually believes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:43 AM
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My boyfriend has a new hypothesis on how I was conceived with a condom on. I am stupid when it comes to directions so I went the other way as a sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:45 PM
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One of the solutions would be to share more personal information about ourselves. Our goals, our desires, our dreams... and whatnot. Words are cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:16 PM
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My bf and I are old fashioned so we are doing that, but not the norm among regular couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:39 AM
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I think I am weirder for wanting my bf to learn orchestral composition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:51 AM
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I am dating a musician and he calls me his muse. I absolutely love it. To a musician, it means that I am his world and his inspiration. I can’t even explain how it feels. I have never felt more wanted and I have never wanted a guy like this before. It is like a magic word to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:46 AM
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I tend to dwell on my mistakes, and that's why he is the one that I thought about in between the most. I had an even bigger crush on someone else. Still no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:06 AM
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A more cynical view would say you just wanted to "have fun" with others first, putting him on the back burner. You must be new. If your definition of "having fun" includes having sex, I haven't had my fun yet. Have you ever told him? What's stopping you? I don't intend on dating him? I don't live in the past. He is basically a fond memory from my adolescence, and a learning experience for me to not be that dumb again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:20 AM
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when the heart knows what it wants its no longer interested in anything else. I can 100% relate to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:16 PM
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Q4A: When would you consider yourself to not be single anymore? When you have started to see someone exclusively (EDIT: both have an understanding that they are seeing each other exclusively) When you have made it official with the person
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:57 PM
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It will probably get a bit more obvious as you age. At your age, most people act according to their circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:16 PM
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I’ve tried uni with egg yolk I think. Was alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:22 PM
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They choose for me. A bit different every time. Found an odd place that has decent quality sashimi but with horrible knife skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:13 PM
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Tofu and an egg. Going to have sashimi soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:11 PM
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Don't Chinese/Asian people come with brown eyes naturally? Redundant. Also how is the guy going to be Chinese without a Chinese mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:05 PM
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My “in-between guy” whom I think about in between every relationship. He is a friend from elementary school and he was very much like me in a lot of ways. I am not sure if I knew it would not completely fleet. Anyway, we hung out sometimes one on one, and he wanted to make it official in middle school, but I turned him down cause I did not believe young relationship would last. I wanted to date him seriously when we could date for marriage. I told no one. I probably should have told him what I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:17 PM
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People who are looking for low investment are the idiots. They should be looking for someone they’d gladly invest a lot into. The people who are looking for low investment probably are the ones who are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:06 PM
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Cancelling last minute two times in a row is a no. I've dumped a friend over that. It means she doesn't value your time nor energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:23 PM
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Btw the kpop girlies you like are around 17 BMI or below. I also happen to fall under 17 BMI, and my bf admitted to me that guys from his country like skinny girls, and that he too likes that I am skinny and his taste is generic in this sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:41 PM
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https://chatgpt.com/share/b53c558b-83d4-4086-a80d-2b36d623487f Asian girls would be ecstatic if BMI was all they had to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:30 PM
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If you're a healthy (19-21 BMI) woman, you'll meet the beauty standards Sure. LOL That's totally why guys get mad over women wearing makeup on PPD. And I am too Asian blackpilled to believe whatever BS you are spewing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:11 PM
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Bad boys aren't liked by everyone, but they will always have their cult following, and it could give the impression of them being wanted by every woman out there. And yes, they are going to get their share of women from their cult following. Plus, women are generally attracted to masculinity. In lower class performative macho masculinity matters a lot more, cause that's basically the only form of masculinity in lower class. he is not exciting since he doesnt takes drugs, gets good grades and is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:01 PM
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Lesbians do seem to like me, but I don’t think keshi concert would be the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:49 PM
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Slightly overweight looks better than skinny on men tbh. Idk what you mean by thin though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:41 PM
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I am an Asian gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:40 PM
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Very tempted to go watch keshi live. Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:34 PM
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Where I am from, it seems like plastics are considered to be used for recreational use by many. "PS doesn't matter, not like you are going to marry the person" is a not an uncommon sentiment. They screen by looking through old photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:31 PM
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The best looking kid was the most popular when I was in school, but some likeable kids also had girlfriends. My bf's lil bro who is in high school is unbelievably popular and he doesn't have phenomenal looks nor he is an athlete. He is a band kid. He is extremely extroverted and is liked by everyone and his descriptor seems to be "crazy" though. He gets invited to everything cause everyone enjoys his presence. By the sounds of his experiences with girls, I am pretty sure he is one of the most po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:16 PM
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link please. I want to see other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:59 PM
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I used to not care possibly due to the normalization of porn usage, but after starting dating someone who feels wrong to be masturbating to other women, I realized how much I could adore someone for this. It happens to increase my libido too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:57 PM
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Happy to hear :) Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:54 PM
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The Social Animal by Elliot Aronson Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari Getting More by S. Diamond Iain McGilchrist’s books Justice by Michael Sandel Might not be my current fav books, but were the most influential books at different points in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:17 PM
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I’m sorry to hear this. I actually think it is the most ideal to meet your life partner while in school, and I think kids should be encouraged to experience dating not too late. My Asian parents too cared a lot about my grades, but my mom encouraged me to go out with guys (but wait to have sex til I can be responsible for a child) so I would know what to look for and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:36 PM
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Yup, this is true. I went out with men who asked me out and I was fond of enough, not ones I had crushes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:30 PM
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East Asian immigrant. I am most likely considered old fashioned even in my country of origin though. I need someone who grew up with East Asian virtues due to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:55 PM
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I don’t believe that I am able to vet complete strangers. It is rather easy to hide who you are for limited durations for a short period of time. My parents set way too high standards for me with their relationship. They had the best marriage in our social circle. It was difficult to find a partner who could create what my parents had with me. And me being a cultural minority with some very old fashioned values that would make me old fashioned even in my home country certainly didn’t help either…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:18 AM
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Mark_Freed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:00 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:02 AM
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I second fearless method. You need to try them out yourself 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:34 PM
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I actually think this preference is biological that will be rather difficult to be rewired. Femininity is often defined by passivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:59 PM
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A good partner. My parents set almost unrealistic expectations for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:58 AM
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Yes. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:13 PM
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He’s always had a huge crush on me High stakes for him then. You have to observe his low stakes interactions to be on the safer side. Of course, it is possible to still not know the person fully afterwards, but it certainly does reduce the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:12 PM
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Yeah then YOUR reason is THAT severe to at least get you to the age that you are without having sex. Probably not going to be the case for a girl who decides to have a secret hoe phase a little after 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:33 PM
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It is highly unlikely that you'd actually be able to vet a stranger too well. It is naive to think that one would be able to do so. You can only know one is a better man when you've had a prolonged interaction with him in the wild especially when the stakes are lower. It isn't that difficult to be nice for short durations for a limited period of time when you have something you want. She didn't pick a better guy, but what she did was attempting to do so while overestimating her ability to vet st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:24 PM
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The answer should be making her a severe enough outlier as her age progresses. 20+ reason is not going to be as severe as 25+ reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:12 PM
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I'd say 20 could still very well be a circumstantial virgin. Older virgins have something that makes them that much of an outlier. Honestly, when screening for female virgins, "But why?" is the question to be answered to figure out what makes the person a real odd ball. It is not a search for traces of a hoe phase, but a search for what makes the person odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:59 PM
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People are really bad liars in general. Plus, being a virgin shouldn't matter that much unless you come from a sex negative culture or want to marry someone who has more conservative values.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:49 PM
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It depends on what kind of woman you want to end up with, and what kind of woman you want to have raise your daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:36 AM
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Korean language isn't hot imo. It is the aesthetics and the mannerisms portrayed in kdramas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:39 PM
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Most aren't good enough singers? And I don't think Asian languages generally count and especially not the one that you should have picked up from your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:36 PM
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Either I like the guy or don’t. There’s no “making up” for whatever I deem undesirable physical or not unless you are talking about settling. Attraction doesn’t work like that. 5’7” is perfectly fine with me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:57 PM
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(My E is 100% and my A is 10%.) No need to change the comment though. I don't think I am particularly self-interested, but I don't care much about how people see me or feel. I do what I think is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:21 AM
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Is openminded enough to genuinely listen to others and change his mind. I do the same, and it is one of the qualities people close to me value the most about me including my boyfriend. Is mature. He is considerate of others, takes accountability (always finds faults in oneself before blaming the circumstances or others), is grateful, has perseverance, is responsible, and is mentally stable enough to not negatively impact other people. Is self-aware. Is trustworthy and is able to trust Is extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:44 PM
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My dad was a devout Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:21 AM
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Many of my elders have a lot of experience with people, and many of them got to places in their lives that are impossible to get to without being good with people. When it comes to religion, it describes how a person should live, and a lot of the actions it prescribes are connected to bigger traits that makes up an ideal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:24 AM
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"Watch what they do, not what they say." I must have had enough time to observe the guy in the wild preferably in various situations where there is very low stakes of him needing to act a certain way. I think it is easy to act nice in shorter durations especially where there could be a reason why he would want to act a certain way. I also don't think I can be perfect at vetting, so I borrow wisdom from my elders and from religion if I have to make an extremely important decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:04 AM
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I look at how he has been acting given the options, and I date men I know. I believe the past matters, and the only way you can only know is to look at what they've done when they were given such options, and I am dating a clearly volcel man. It is similar to a lot of men saying to look at a woman's younger past. When she was given a choice, what did she do? If she had a choice, what would she have done?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:24 PM
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I think due to the intense competition, Korean brands really had to step up their game while Japanese fried chicken stayed relatively the same with less flavor options. Even when you get original/plain flavor, I think Korean franchise chicken got the texture down better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:41 PM
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You are missing out. You gotta try out both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:18 PM
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Chinese lamb skewers vs. Korean fried chicken Help me choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:39 PM
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I’m amused that she actually said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:13 PM
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There were online games, but it wasn't everything that kids did. I think newer parents might not be as strict when limiting their children's screen time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:20 PM
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It spoke in extremes, but to a degree, I would say it is correct. However, it does not make sense on platforms like OLD where you are primarily being judged for your looks. You have to pick your market, your audience and your marketing channel. The less people socialize and the more people's lives are moved to online platforms, the above will not apply. And I think women in general are attracted to masculinity which is not as easily conveyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:05 PM
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I agree that looks matter, and what I said in my previous comment does reflect that. I probably start off feeling neutral in terms of attraction until there's an "Oh wow" moment with the person and sometimes it is related to how he carries himself or it could be his musical talent, and the physical attractiveness level ranged from dead average to good looking. These men all stood out to me in one way or another very much. I think one's looks or outer appearance cannot be a turn off, and at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:49 PM
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I actually believe in nature more than the average person, due to me not having been able to overcome my masculine nature in my conservative culture. I believe femininity and masculinity is on a spectrum, and most people fall somewhere that's not in either extreme, but with men generally leaning more masculine, and women generally leaning more feminine. I think there's naturally masculine women and naturally feminine men but we are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:10 PM
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There were three guys in my life that made me take a second look cause they were exceptionally good looking. I admired their beauty like I admire exceptionally good looking women, and did not have a single ounce of sexual attraction towards them. All the guys I have felt sexual towards, it only happened after I had formed a close relationship with, and there was no overlap with those three forementioned guys. I am unsure how much of my experience is the norm, but I think women in general can't f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:59 PM
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you move in with her for a while to see if something flourish between you two. I come from a culture with arranged marriages, and this is not what happens. You meet, get to know each other for a bit like from one to three months (and not live with each other) and unless there is a serious issue, you say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:39 PM
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I was thinking it could be a shade on me, but I don't actually give much of a shit about that. I know where I stand. All I care about is to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:29 AM
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ANYONE who chased my aunt or even my mom shot outside of their looks league.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:01 AM
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And people don't believe me when I tell them men often shoot outside of their looks league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:26 PM
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I think men worry more about what women think about their choices than the other way around My mom said it is a feminine trait to care a lot about what others think, and I think that makes sense when we think about how women try to be more likeable and politically correct in general. I just think we have a lot of feminine leaning men on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:07 PM
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Yeah, I think you could be my long lost brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:44 AM
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My a/c has stopped working and I am heat aging rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:13 AM
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you have to actually approach strangers - arranged marriage and matchmakers exist and are still quite popular. cold approaching is actually pretty weird unless you are trying to get hoes. society doesn’t prioritize you first - until your brother gets to eat meat and you don't, and you don't get a job even when you are more way qualified for being a woman, and of course, getting served the ladle is the best. also, a good portion of women are bullied out of a job once she has a baby. guilty till p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:11 AM
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It was him eating food off of her plate..............
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:41 PM
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very blackpilling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:25 PM
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Relationships or the people she went out on dates with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:24 PM
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Not everything on the list is true in my home country. I would not choose to be a woman in my home country if I had a choice. My dad got me out of my home country when I was young for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:18 PM
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I never said no cost. I would much rather take on the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:10 PM
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My mom got served the ladle to serve herself and me at a restaurant after the female server served my dad and his best friend got served food. And after my dad passed away, my dad's family told my mom to leave me to them, and gtfo, cause I am family but she isn't. Wives aren't seen as family, and husbands very often take the sides of their parents when wives get mistreated by his parents due to our traditions requiring kids to be obedient to the parents. When my mom did her business dealings, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:08 PM
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There's quite a few while you are young if you belong in the same class. Going to a good school helps massively too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:47 PM
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If I still lived in my home country, absolutely. I live in the West now though. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:34 PM
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Like nothing he says or does would comfort my poor ego enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:31 PM
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Your own value doesn't matter as much as you think. You gotta account for the most relationship oriented sane desirable ones disappearing from the market. I almost got screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:19 PM
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No, I get why people pay to live in gated communities and need approval to move into certain areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:32 PM
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That's because she is pretty. Attractive women look good with and without. It is the ones who need it that benefit the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:52 PM
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Yes, I still take it seriously. I follow East Asian beauty standards. There isn’t much fat acceptance or whatever among Asians. Lookism is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:20 AM
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Instead, I took courses on religion. Now that I think about it, kinda very typical of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:43 AM
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u/CompetitiveTennis112 we are being excluded from this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:37 PM
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That reminds me of a super masculine looking guy working at my local lululemon. Big muscular bald and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:25 PM
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Pianists are beautiful creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:33 PM
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Opposite sex, it is fine. Ex's, ideally not. They should keep their distance as much as possible. Former FWBs, should have none at all to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:22 PM
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Unless I met the guy in a professional setting where he could have networking intentions, I would be very wary of sexual advances from stranger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:58 PM
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I am cooking ground beef and my cat is trying to steal my food.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:44 PM
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I don't know. I think it is better to be cautious of stranger men entering your life as you don't know what he is going to be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:16 PM
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got her phone number AND she was going to be married soon
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:10 PM
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He would make a good grifter though. He kinda already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:47 PM
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The guy who told me this is good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:59 PM
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A good portion of them should believe in chastity still. https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/asia/japanese-millennials-virgins/index.html And while Japanese people might act as if they are open to everything, how they themselves choose to act, and what they actually believe while coming off as agreeable can be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:41 PM
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chastity Idk. Thought Japan's sex negative culture was one of the reasons that are assumed to be contributing to the low fertility rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:20 PM
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New things I learn... So you know others sometimes mistake a woman and a man hanging out together as a couple. When the woman likes the guy, she gets happy and sometimes would even say, "maybe we should."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:17 PM
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I've learned from a couple guys on PPD that hate fuck is a thing, and men have masturbated to the thought of having sex with women that are mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:12 PM
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I eat the same thing every day, and I am fine with it. I can cook quite well when I do cook though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:05 PM
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I can start doing more intense workouts soon too. Not excited for it. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:59 PM
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His cover will be blown once he rants in his sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:51 PM
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She is Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:17 AM
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That's with me and pizza. Pizzeria scents oftentimes make me gag and I don't know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:55 AM
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That’s my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:43 PM
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I have taken a second look at a guy for being very good looking with 3 men in my life. But it was basically me admiring their beauty like I admire extremely pretty women, nothing more. I have never felt anything sexual towards men I didn't have an exceptionally close relationship with, and the ones I've felt that towards don't overlap with the guys mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:23 PM
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How are you going to manage to find someone with 0 relationship experience if you aren't Muslim? Rely on luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:07 PM
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I come from a classist society. We look down on losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:43 PM
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more likely to be stable, secure long-term partners and less likely to be non-committal This 100% for me. A guy with my lifestyle and my diet should have six packs, but I'd still be very cautious of guys who look like fuckboys. I do like the look of them, but six packs aren't a pre-requisite for me to be attracted to a guy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:24 PM
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I have it saved. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:16 PM
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I think there's another possibility. David Buss, a prominent evolutionary psychologist, has discussed the concept of the "Dark Triad" of personality traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy—in the context of human mating strategies. According to Buss, these traits can be attractive to some women, particularly younger or more naive ones, due to their superficial signals of dominance, confidence, and risk-taking, which can be mistaken for indicators of high genetic quality and success.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:00 PM
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I get 1 practical gift, 1 meaningful gift, and dinner at a good restaurant. Nothing too out of the ordinary, but I don't celebrate my own birthday anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:50 PM
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An attractive male virgin is viewed as more desirable than an attractive man with a count of 1 or 12. u/AngeCruelle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:29 AM
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Do I have a brain injury?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:22 AM
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I always get downvoted for saying this. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:06 PM
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- Is openminded enough to genuinely listen to others and change his mind. I do the same, and it is one of the qualities people close to me value the most about me including my boyfriend. - Is mature. is considerate of others, takes accountability (always finds faults in oneself before blaming the circumstances or others), is grateful, has perseverance, is responsible, and is mentally stable enough to not negatively impact other people. - Is self-aware. - Is trustworthy. - Is extremely family-ori…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:58 AM
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East Asians women like k-drama actors and k-pop stars a lot. I like Changs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:24 AM
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It is what it is. Don’t beat yourself too much over it. I wish you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:56 AM
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ENTJ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:54 AM
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Forget lifestyle. How is he going to win my family over? No blessings from my family, no marriage. There’s 0 chance. But then again, I am not really a western woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:41 AM
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Unless she is fine with dealing with his infidelity for the rest of her life, I think that choice is valid. A person’s past is a good indicator of who they are, and this is a massive fuck up of not listening to one’s little voice in the head. Lack of conscience is a big concern, and he kept it a secret even… AND kept that friend he cheated with around it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:45 AM
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Take some accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:51 PM
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Apparently, producing human meat is too inefficient resource-wise. That is one explanation of why consumption of human meat never became a widely practiced thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:39 PM
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Mentally broken people tend to stay in abusive relationships. They are broken to begin with. It shouldn’t be difficult for normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:24 PM
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Link? Or do you know what it basically says?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:16 PM
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I have heard it could be difficult to separate oneself from an abuser. If they were capable of doing so, they probably would have done it already and on their own. I too think it is dumb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:11 PM
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That’s insane. You clearly touched a crazy one, and one problem with cold approach for both parties is you don’t really know what they are like to begin with. There may be people willing to take such chances, but it wouldn’t be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:04 PM
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I am saying acting as if you are having a civil conversation while downvoting is passive aggressive, or I might have had to say fake. But regardless, if you haven't, my mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:24 PM
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Your responses somehow come with downvotes and it is always the time you show up to respond, and I know my downvote trend rather well due to me rubbing all pilled groups the wrong way. If you didn't, then it is my mistake, but I have strong suspicions. The time you realized I wasn't virtue signaling, the downvotes were reversed. Only you had knowledge of our private interaction. Those comments weren't the type of comments that get upvoted especially in that specific pattern. Anyway, if you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:02 PM
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Most women are attracted to masculinity. Introversion is considered to be feminine and extroversion is considered to be masculine under YinYang philosophy. Btw, if you want to interact, interact. I am only trying to explain things, and I see you downvoting all the time. I try to be civil towards you and you are very often passive aggressive towards me. I don't care if people who don't interact with me or who are having an emotional outburst to be downvoting, but it is actually strange for you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:31 PM
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I am way below 19 BMI so I'd need to get fatter too which I am not planning on doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:16 PM
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In Asian Yin and Yang philosophy, extroversion is considered a masculine trait. Women liking extroversion is no surprise if YinYang holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:12 PM
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I am making my boyfriend miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:08 PM
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I mean, whenever people say AMALT or AMALT, they aren't really talking about positive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:08 PM
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Are you even close to being 30? Like it is actually pretty weird to go without relationships and sex, and not normal at all. All the normal average people around my couple have been in relationships. My boyfriend and I are 100% the abnormal outliers, and our normie friends are surprised when they hear that my boyfriend has not been in a relationship with anyone else but me, and that we are both waiting until marriage. This is not the norm, and we haven't hit the age group you've mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:05 PM
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I was raised by Christians and Christianity teaches both genders to be celibate. That's really the only way this social contract works. Unless men also make the commitment to protect women's virginity as a whole, it doesn't really work out. My bf and I are both waiting til marriage fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:43 PM
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Good food but I doubt he was there for the food. My Vegas trip’s itinerary was just food and shopping. Same restaurant three nights in a row.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:44 PM
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There probably is. u/ZairNotFair who is a 19 yr old guy is dating such a woman, and I am a young millennial woman who believe that marriage is not about selfishness or self-centeredness, but selflessness of both partners. I like seeing my boyfriend happy, and actually contributing to making our relationship work, and same with him. There are such women, but you have to find them before they all get paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:51 AM
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I've never heard of this movement before. It sounds nuts period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:33 AM
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-age-to-lose-virginity-by-country I would assume subtracting the difference would give the number I think would make the most sense to me. Why did you give him a pass then? So my boyfriend and I are BOTH abnormal outliers. For me, the question of why had to be answered and whether if it was the same or similar enough why. In our case, we both are very old fashioned, but him a bit more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:39 PM
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For studious Asians, early 20’s is so normal. Mid 20’s is getting late a bit, but it happens still fairly frequently I’d say. Late 20’s is abnormal even among studious Asians. And I see it as an orange flag. My boyfriend wasn’t studious so… it was an even weirder situation with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:23 PM
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OP also included no relationship experience. It def is out of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:01 PM
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If the market theory applies, you are making the best exchange possible with the mate value that you have and you are supposed to end up with someone with similar overall mate value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:45 AM
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I am against premarital sex and am dating a virgin guy who has only dated me in his life, but I would still take lack of experience as somewhat of an orange flag, cause it is very out of the norm. I just know my boyfriend well enough to know that he is very old fashioned when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:36 AM
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Name calling instead of accepting she is right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:14 PM
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My new PPD flair should be enough of an answer. Tattoos and piercings are deal breakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:55 PM
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Idk. Even before we had european influences, I think we might have preferred eurocentric features. Fair skin, large eyes and small nose were all descriptors of beauty in folktales.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:38 PM
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Well most beauty standards are very eurocentric. If gloomy is mainly into the eurocentric look, I don’t think it is necessarily racist. Even among Asians, we value eurocentric beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:32 PM
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Based answer as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:08 PM
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That’s despicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:05 PM
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I think many of them are wrong still like many other pilled people. I kinda shit on most people at different times.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:58 PM
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I don’t think I am particularly nice, but this is one area of the internet where I can communicate with others while being more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:50 PM
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Probably A LOT cheaper than paying for her medical bills in the States.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:07 AM
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Nah, there usually is something wrong about the woman too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:49 AM
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X Æ A-Xii
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:46 AM
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You might enjoy Brasstracks. They don't use the best session bands but I enjoy some of their stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:43 AM
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You could probably take me out of the unhealthy category though. I am a millennial who has never taken hormonal birth control pills or ever been fat or lacked exercise, and I have always been this way. The rare cases I actually experienced sexual attraction was after getting to know the guy. It was so rare to the point that I thought I was asexual for a while. It took the second guy I was attracted to show up in my 20's for me to realize what I felt for the first guy was sexual attraction. I eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:35 AM
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If he is not looking for a LTR, who cares how crazy they are though. And we know this prude is going to be quite judgey anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:14 AM
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I thought we all enjoyed looking at how insane a lot of women are on OLD. Are you looking for a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:06 AM
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Let's see how insane/sane their profiles are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:01 AM
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I am quite curious too whether what I experience is the norm or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:00 AM
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Possibly? Yes, daily. No. Nah, I have a thing for impressive enough musicians, and most of PPD regulars know. I am too selective with musicians for it to be anywhere close to being some kind of virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:00 AM
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I eat extremely healthy, nowhere near being overweight, not on meds. I never in my life felt hot for a stranger. The most that happens is I would like to get to know that person when he plays beautiful music.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:49 AM
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I wouldn't say the logic necessarily works backwards. It only increases the likelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:14 AM
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I think if there's spontaneous desire with strangers even if it is rare, it means you aren't demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:11 AM
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You can be against degeneracy and be repelled by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:30 PM
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As an East Asian woman, I would like to know where to find the degenerates that think a couple is at least engaged if they have a kid. It is marriage or none from what I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:37 PM
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Average range is still a range.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:04 PM
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Right? Yw. And I sent you a chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:25 PM
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One point difference is huge when you consider the size of the normie league, and that one point can stand between a yes and a no. Fat/obese is basically sabotaging oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:24 PM
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People here could make a misogynist/misandrist podcast with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:14 PM
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Eh they can be of issue. I think you have to be a mid for looksmaxxing to have a meaningful impact though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:07 PM
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If blackpill thinks the guy on the right is good looking... then they've really lost it. Basically another version of this gif.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:45 AM
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I was talking about the level of experience, and not level of attractiveness since the topic was inexperience being problematic. Even in niche circles, the desirable crowd exists. And I am a SHE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:37 AM
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We would probably have to hope that your insecurities get manageable once you hit a certain level of attractiveness. But I think this might have to do with one's natural neuroticism too. If your neuroticism is naturally high, try to manage that for sure. If not, a few good experiences should help you manage those insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:35 AM
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Also I don't really want ultraconservatives, since I am a left winger I see. I would have to wish you luck then. I am not too familiar with how progressives like to date. I still think if you are able to reach a certain level of attractiveness all around without too big of a negative, you still should be able to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:33 AM
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I feel like glow up or not, I'm still in trouble. This part could be untrue for the conservative crowd. The glow up probably is needed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:00 AM
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The most religious/conservative leaning women of PPD all got together with virgin men btw. Cauliflower was a virgin who started dating another virgin. AngeCruelle is a virgin dating a virgin, and same with me. But unless this is the demographic you are targeting specifically, being a virgin probably doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:50 AM
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Depends on which beauty standard you are trying to go for and the look that you will be leaning into. When it comes to styling, there is usually a select few styles that you can pull off too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:24 AM
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I am too Asian. I think he might have lost too much fat and facial fat that he lost the twink vibe. He messed up his facial balance somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:15 AM
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There's a small time singer that I've been listening to for a few years, and he looks a bit different, but not in a good way. I have been trying to determine if it is plastic surgery gone wrong, but I don't think that's it. His new brows are not doing it for him for sure. I think there's more to this though. Gonna ask a friend who does this professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:08 AM
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Age gap relationships should normally happen when they don't know each other as well as she would know her peers, and I think the problem more often is trying to date someone you don't know that well, rather than the age itself. But at the same time, I would be wary of the leftover market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:11 PM
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Would depend on cultural context too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:49 PM
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She is the best looking human I have ever seen in my entire life and I have a few ex-trainees and models as friends. Apparently guys from other schools waited at her school to catch a glimpse of her and stuff like that. She is the prettiest one out of all her really good looking sisters. That generation of women in my family looks insane and my cousins and myself all have some insecurity due to our moms. We don’t even care what our peers look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:39 PM
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Take my upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:26 PM
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I wonder how many of them are on dating apps. The problem isn’t just how unrealistic/superficial, but their level of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:22 PM
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I was thinking about writing a somewhat similar comment last night but let it go. I am somewhat envious of my aunt’s looks, but I don’t think I would have actually liked having her level of attractiveness. I think it can get excessive at some point that it affects your life too negatively. But she is too extreme of an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:51 PM
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I am partly headed back to Asia cause I want to raise my kids there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:44 PM
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Both genders simp so much more for Chads and Stacies. I said this a couple times before, but I believe people need to treat their (potential) partner as Chad/Stacy even if it is not true in the eyes of the public. People are often entitled and often act as if they rightfully deserve a person who isn't a Chad/Stacy, and don't treat them as nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:24 PM
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Yeah, my boyfriend would be getting an earful from me if he ate like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:11 PM
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Targeted fat loss is not a thing, but this helps. You need to determine if it is guts or fat though. If it is fat, you need to lose it to get rid of it. I hated my guts. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:50 PM
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There's quite a few more than PPD guys like to think, but they get locked down, and get harder to find among single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:30 PM
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Were you having another discussion on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:05 PM
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Natural and he can just grab it from my mom. Saving up to buy a ring is a stupid financial decision. That to me means you can’t afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:50 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:41 PM
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The range is different for each race. For Asians, the threshold for normal is lower than for it is for white people I think. It could be due to us storing our fat as visceral fat or something of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:38 PM
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Morricone made those movies into masterpieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:39 PM
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