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| 2 | Those who are not doing well in their 20’s will probably carry on as they get olderPretty much. This red pill stuff has grown so much larger than when I remember it. The amount of grift these days is nuts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Those who are not doing well in their 20’s will probably carry on as they get olderAs a multi-millionaire with a six-pack, I like to imagine what people think is normal behavior for us. Do we go around flashing our abs and riding around in Bugattis? Not all of us are selling get-rich-quick schemes to young naive red pillers while posing in front of rented cars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 11:51 PM |
| 11 | Study documents surprisingly high rate of female-perpetrated rape.Is female-perpetrated rape more common now or is it being reported more often now? I believe it's mostly comparable because we're redefining rape. See this line in the abstract: We therefore reviewed the broader literature to identify patterns and provide context, including among high-risk populations such as college students and inmates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 11:32 PM |
| 1 | N-count question.Not going to give names, but this was an infamous bper whose account has been around for close to a decade now. He's still around and active, just not on ppd as much anymore. Why would he lie about this to scare rpers? He sincerely thought it was an inspiring story. Also maybe that's the guys kink, people like weird shit. Oh I dont deny that he was taught a new kink. It's not something most men want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 08:43 PM |
| 2 | N-count question.Do you believe anger necessarily leads to weak actions? Why do you think people make decisions like kicking a partner to the curb? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 06:45 PM |
| 1 | N-count question.The feelings aren't a weakness. The actions and behaviours in how we respond to those feelings are more important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Which proportion of women you know, among ALL of them, acted in monstrous fashions deserving of a TRP post?You mean comments like, "Oh rpers only date proles who can't control their behaviour. Classier people are able to control themselves." Flip that shit on them. Ask them if they ever had people love or trust them enough to go crazy around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Which proportion of women you know, among ALL of them, acted in monstrous fashions deserving of a TRP post?I don't know why you're telling me this, because what I've been writing actually supports your point. If it's other couples and other women, it's lower than 5%. I am mostly around UMC+ ppl these days after all, and those types have more self control in public. If it's me, the stat is closer to 50%. Crazy, AWALTy behaviour starts to surface, and I start seeing the patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 05:14 PM |
| 1 | N-count question.insecurity is a character weakness. Insecurity is a strength. You know who is secure? That one guy who lectured rpers while talking about how secure he was ever since he found his girlfriend who turned him poly (she fucks other ppl, but he does not) and makes him take it up the ass from her other boyfriends. He'll stay secure even if she leaves him. It's the response to feelings of insecurity that make or break a man. If he whines? If he flinches when his gf/wife tells him, "you're just insecure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Which proportion of women you know, among ALL of them, acted in monstrous fashions deserving of a TRP post?I'm not sure. I'm not being scientific about this or anything. I just know that less-familiar women aren't that crazy (or hide their crazy). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Which proportion of women you know, among ALL of them, acted in monstrous fashions deserving of a TRP post?Several. Not that many. But they're overrepresented among women who were very close to me. Again, I suspect that the people who are closer to us and trust us are more likely to share with us their crazy side. That or we drive them crazy. Hahah I partially suspect this because I myself become less and less rational towards people I care deeply about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 05:22 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Which proportion of women you know, among ALL of them, acted in monstrous fashions deserving of a TRP post?The vast majority of women have been nothing but pleasant to me. Spoiled me rotten. However, there is a sizable minority of women close to me who were crazy. People whom /r/relationships would tell me to run from. These "close" women range from ex-girlfriends, cousins, to my own mother. Most harmless (e.g. stupidity or lack of self-awareness), but sometimes violent (chasing me around with knives). I fully admit that this likely says more about me than it does about women in general. EDIT: I'm go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 07:09 AM |
| 2 | Chad is easy to identify and universal.Right. He's describing something vague and it's never going to be falsifiable, because the moment we find a woman who hasn't fucked what we consider a "Chad", he's going to find some latent alpha in the guys she has fucked. It's some hidden factor that he's not naming, and it's not something visible or obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:14 PM |
| 0 | Vetting and marriageWhat we could do is start doing is separating moral and amoral blame/responsibility. The knee jerk emotional accusations of victim blaming might decrease as a side effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca The above woman has no moral blame. Her murderers/rapists have full moral blame. She has amoral blame for being naive and irresponsible with her own safety. We all have amoral responsibility for our own well-being. Even "victims." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:00 PM |
| 5 | Chad is easy to identify and universal.You'll always have women who claim to have fucked no one but their current SO. If you fucked a lot of women and haven't married most of them, chances are they're more promiscuous types (and promiscuous women can belong to any group, just at different rates). The ones who are promiscuous who you had easy time with, yes they're more likely to have fucked a "Chad". Even for that group of women, which can be significant in the USA, what you're describing isn't falsifiable. I can guess what you're tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 06:03 AM |
| 1 | would you....Sure. I don't consider her a very typical woman. And yes, I know that a lot of BPers over the years have questioned her gender. It doesn't matter. Those specific bpers were just being hypocrites by validating gender stereotypes in the first place. They reject rp assertions about gender stereotypes, only to unwittingly use those same stereotypes to justify their misconceptions about ABS. "Atlas can't be a real woman. A REAL WOMAN wouldn't write like that!" "No actual female could write that way i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 06:06 AM |
| 1 | would you....Seen her pic and heard her voice. Why are you so stubborn on this point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 02:19 AM |
| 2 | would you....ABS is female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Women: What problems do men tend to exaggerate? Men: What problems do women tend to exaggerate?That distinction is good enough for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather your son grow up to be nice, or hot?Nah, there are lot of loners who have done great things. They only had posthumous recognition. I consider them to have "great personalities". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Women: What problems do men tend to exaggerate? Men: What problems do women tend to exaggerate?Women exaggerate the importance of love for a long-term relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather your son grow up to be nice, or hot?Great personality is not necessarily an attractive personality. It depends on what you mean by "great". A "nice personality" can be boring, weak, and/or unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 04:07 AM |
| 2 | First post - Dog logicRedpill "aware" men are some of the worst examples of "alpha" that I've ever witnessed. In other words, you're saying that they're "not" alpha. Meaning you have an intuitive understanding of what it means in the first place. Your main contention is that your friend is dishonest (and rpers by extension). At the very least he's misrepresenting himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 08:57 PM |
| 2 | First post - Dog logicIt's a description of behaviours. You're talking about that guy who studied wolves. He got flack for it, and yes, it was more about wolves in captivity. The terms were still used to describe behaviour and ethology. E.g. alpha and beta chimps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: What would you do if you were a mod? (05 May 2018)They're also more likely to be the ones contributing content. They can lack personal experience while still being capable of contributing with objective facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Stephen Pinker on the irrational aspects of the relationship marketplaceYes. Marketplaces are mainly objective in an intersubjective way. And I don’t remember anyone saying they’re driven by rational actors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 02:36 AM |
| 0 | Stable Marriage ProblemThat you did. I just wrote RTFT for my explanation and then included an example involving Abe Taman, a beta man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/18 03:53 PM |
| 3 | Stable Marriage ProblemIt's changing, and I'll be right there with you speculating that the roles are becoming more gender balanced over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/18 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Should sex bots have rights?Depends on your perspective really. From the perspective of a peasant, definitely not. Granting bots rights will be the first step to diluting the democratic power of humans, gradually transferring it into the hands of technocratic elite. From the perspective of a technocratic elitist? Sure. We need to grant more rights to bots of any kind. Look how shitty humans are to this cute, childlike bot. It's inhumane! There's something wrong about it! Search your feelings. You know it's true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/18 03:35 PM |
| 9 | Stable Marriage ProblemYes, they can give IOIs, but it's still up to the men to interpret and initiate. The men can either autistically miss the IOIs as men often do or they can subtly reject. The real world isn't a perfect math problem. Sometimes women will be initiators. However, so long as men are more aggressive they fit the initiator role better, and there will be general tendencies in the real world that can be induced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/18 03:31 PM |
| 3 | Stable Marriage ProblemSome of my earlier thoughts on this are included in a thread I posted on ppd: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1z5od5/stable_marriage_problem/ This is one of the main points in favour of an rp trope that I interpreted from the stable marriage problem: 2) The stable pairing solutions tend to lend some credence to the stereotype that women are more likely than men to feel dissatisfied about their partners when comparing them to other men, simply by the fact that they weren't the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/18 03:23 PM |
| 7 | Do men complain too much?He didn't deny men do too much complaining. He even said, "It's about time." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Explaining the Slut-Stud difference and the Frankenstein's Monster Sexual Theory (speculation and theories)You can end up with more female ancestors if very distant cousins ten times removed have sex. Just takes a small handful of successful men. Honestly not sure if that qualifies as incest at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/18 04:47 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of butch women?Important to note this section: Keep the faith. It may have something to do with attractive women being less faithful than unattractive women. Anthony Little, the leader of the study, says that men are drawn to unattractive women in marriage for fear of being cheated on. So for a hot girl to increase her chances of marriage, she has to go above and beyond to prove her faithfulness. This suggests that those guys may still sexually prefer the more feminine looking women. Perhaps they have bad expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/18 01:01 AM |
| 3 | Can a man be 'high-value' and still be a cheater?Men with low moral value want to cheat. Men with high financial and sexual value (Eg physically attractive and charismatic) have more opportunities to cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/18 12:49 AM |
| 3 | Interesting data about disparities in sentencing between male vs. female teachers who take advantage of their students (statutory rape).How did it affect your life exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/18 10:55 PM |
| 2 | QForMen: What kind of man would you want your daughter to date?I know! But still with something as important as vengeance or pride you want to make sure you send the right message. American labor is more expensive but we likely get our money’s worth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 02:56 AM |
| 2 | QForMen: What kind of man would you want your daughter to date?https://www.havocscope.com/price-charged-by-contract-killer-to-murder-dea-agent/ United States Soldier – Group of Snipers$800,000 for group of 3 Look how affordable they are. I don't have to do anything directly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 02:37 AM |
| 7 | QForMen: What kind of man would you want your daughter to date?Someone who respects fears me. Less alpha than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 11:20 PM |
| 9 | A Gentleman’s Guide to Flirting Without Being a Creep - ArticleThis is probably why nerds get shat on the most by sjws. They actually listen to them! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Porn & PoliticsI've noticed it's proportional to how attractive she thinks I am as well. If I've had a rough go of it lately, it's missionary with the lights off, if I've been killing it in life and have displayed high status, she wants me to pull her hair, talk dirty, smack her ass and throw her around. I believe it. I've seen and also heard the same from male friends. But do you think these are the same women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Genghis Khan descent cluster debunkedThe alpha-beta dichotomy may have originated from studies on wolves in captivity. Terms can come from bad research, but the terms themselves are intuitive. I thought they were almost universally intuitive, except to people who've mostly lived in academia for their adult lives. Feminists like Naomi Wolf used it to describe Al Gore. I have used such terms to describe stocks before knowing the exact origins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Deconstructing postmodernist feminism through a classical Marxist analysis!! HAHA. I thought of pinging you right before I fell asleep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Deconstructing postmodernist feminism through a classical Marxist analysisi decided i was too tired to argue and deleted, didn't see you respond. Derrida can't help that idiots exist in the world. Ironically Marx himself was more structuralist than deconstructionalist. He wasn't that pomo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Deconstructing postmodernist feminism through a classical Marxist analysisHowever, given the low intellectual content of postmodernist thought and its hostility to a logical analysis of its precepts, perhaps it is time for the rest of us to try to save humanities from itself. I'm OK with most of what you wrote, but post modernist philosophies themselves are not wrong. You're talking about the average low brow college student and what he/she takes from pomo lib arts studies. Derrida himself said nothing wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 09:39 AM |
| 7 | Other than TRP theory, why do so many women want much less sex after marriage?None of this should be controversial. Look at the last time I brought up a related topic, related in terms of shifting dyadic power and its effect on women giving men more sex: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5wwke0/campus_sex_ratios_romantic_relationships_and/ Hardly anyone argued with it. Even bpers mostly thought this info was intuitive. When men got more options/power, women gave them more sex. Even within couples where the men don't go cadding around and stayed loyal, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Genghis Khan descent cluster debunkedThey're ethological terms. I've heard them used to describe primates more often. Example: Chimpanzee groups at Fongoli are fairly isolated, so Foudouko’s only chance of finding a mate was to rejoin the group. By 2013, Mamadou had regained beta male status and his brother, David, had taken over as alpha. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2119677-chimps-beat-up-murder-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/1 Bp types (PC types) in general like to control language, but we can be smarter than t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 09:16 AM |
| 2 | Genghis Khan descent cluster debunkedI don’t care about oppression. The point is that almost no one in the manosphere was using supposed data of Ghenghis Khan’s reproductive success. There’s far more data out there on this matter of male reproductive bottlenecks. I hardly see even trpers talk about Ghenghis Khan seriously. He’s brought up more as a symbol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/18 11:20 PM |
| 14 | Men, would you rather share a hot woman or have an 'ok' woman exclusively?B | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/18 02:21 AM |
| 6 | Male attraction vs. Female attraction: a trans perspectiveSissy hypno porn is one of the greatest threats of western civilization. But Also there are young boys being coached into thinking that mtf is the way to go simply for ambivalent feelings about gender expectations. Ie “You’re not just a girly boy with feminine preferences and goals. You should actually be a girl.” I remember these sorts of threads/discussions/propaganda being linked to me by someone equally as concerned as you. I’ll have to dig it up later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/18 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Genghis Khan descent cluster debunkedpeople don’t seize on that source alone. Info such as “twice as many of our ancestors are women as men” and the great Y chromosomal bottlenecks past the mid Holocene are well studied and documented. Well over a hundred members of YCC (y chromosome consortium) and other groups have studied this matter. Couple examples: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4381518/ https://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.6231.pdf Say what you want about how the data on Ghenghis Khan’s legacy is untrustworthy, that itse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/18 01:54 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Red pill men don't want traditional wives because they don't want to be traditional husbands.Yeah you're right. After I got what you were saying in a different message, I said about the same to him. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7tzdge/cmv_red_pill_men_dont_want_traditional_wives/dtmyvdw/ I think he's right that it's not mathematically impossible, but lacking in mathematical intuition. Also thinking about people lying about n's, you should use some kind of multiplier or logarithmic lowering, not a +10, that's retarded. Of course. If my n count was 200, why would I l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 07:27 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red pill men don't want traditional wives because they don't want to be traditional husbands.She's saying that while men and women both lie. Men's lie wouldn't realistically be more than 2 point difference. For women, you're proposing their lies spans 10 points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 06:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red pill men don't want traditional wives because they don't want to be traditional husbands.I see what you're saying now. That if lewis is saying that avg woman had 5 partners in her life, then they couldn't have been banged out by 15 chads. You might have misread him. He was empathizing "admits to having" because he doesn't believe their report. He's doing that thing, "if she tells you it's 5, add 10 to it." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 06:30 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red pill men don't want traditional wives because they don't want to be traditional husbands.Mathematically they can. The average CDC uses is a median, not mean. Realistically, men and women shouldn't have that high of a difference but mathematically it's possible. You'd need a dedicated minority of Super Hoes that serviced at least half a gender population to create such a gap in the numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Does beta bucks really exist?What you do for money still says a lot about your character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 12:35 AM |
| 8 | Your experiences with men/women are what causes your opinion of them, but your opinions aren’t true for all members of the opposite genderYou're talking about moral opinions. E.g. angry men and women attributing moral value to each other due to negative experiences. "Women treated me badly, they must all be whores!" / "Men treated me badly, they're really all just rapists!" You can tell these opinions come from high emotions. Opinions about gender/sex we discuss here aren't all moral though. It takes objectivity to have judgments about men and women regardless of experience. I've had almost purely positive experiences with women, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | How many men here have ever cleaned a house?Braava is the mopping bot. Roomba is the vacuuming bot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 11:20 PM |
| 2 | How many men here have ever cleaned a house?I have a pair of siblings Roomba and Braava who do the vacuuming and sweeping for me. They're more diligent to me than any mere human. I only do that stuff myself once in a blue moon because they're not perfectly competent. I do my own laundry though. it's not that hard when my laundry room is right by my bedroom. I have good aim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureIF women are more neurotic than men, I'd bet on it being related to "stereotype threat" that feminists themselves say keep them out of certain male-dominated fields/industries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureNo one is misleading. What's likely happening is that Nemma88 fished for a good quote and got it from theGuardian: Damore emailed his memo to the organisers of Google’s diversity meetings in early July. When there was no response, he started sending the document to Google’s internal mailing lists and forums, eager for a reaction. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/16/james-damore-google-memo-interview-autism-regrets Check the date of that. It's not in the case details and it's an in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 09:38 PM |
| 4 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureIf someone said, “men are inherently worse at being managers” I would think, “She has a point in many ways. Women are generally better at micromanaging and multitasking.” It’s not personal and I feel way too special and confident to be offended or even threatened over generalizations. I get that women are generally underconfident relative to men though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 09:18 PM |
| 2 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureRight. This teaches us never to trust people who tell you to open up about your feelings. “Please give us your honest feedback!” -Diversity summit This summit was held in response to complaints HR got about politically conservative employees feeling unwelcome. Damore was too autistic or trusting to assume HR was sincere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 09:15 PM |
| 5 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureThere’s nothing inherently wrong with being “one-sided”. I am that way when I feel I have conviction or certainty. You’re one-sided yourself. I was initially biased against Damore for being too moronic and a bit of an ass for just circulating memos no one asked for to defame Google or make fun of leftists. That was Google PR and reddit bias. Turns out from case details this was part of some diversity summit initiated by Google PR because they had complaints of politically motivated harassment by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 08:01 PM |
| 4 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureThen what was your snarky remark about written in good faith. I used the exact same words "Google's ideological echo chamber". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 07:32 PM |
| 7 | Doxxing and harassment Wars - Countercultural response to PC cultureThis was what the memo is called. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 07:29 PM |
| 5 | Are women really that different from men - or is this an example of the dreaded “hamstering”?It's not just thirst levels. It's pride. Men are more prideful than women. It's a masculine thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 07:09 AM |
| 5 | A couple things about the "male brain" theory of autism that puzzle meThere's a new theory that autism makes you less gendered in general. It makes women more male-brained while making men less male-brained. At the very least, the evidence that autism makes men more masc is limited (mostly to pre-natal testosterone and in stereotypical standards such as weaker social flexibility). There are quite a few recent articles on this. Sample to start with: Differences between females with and without autism resembled the differences between non-autistic male and female br… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 02:08 AM |
| 5 | Serious question - Are many RedPillers mentally ill?Definitely. I was clinically diagnosed bipolar. It went away (that it went away is a self diagnosis). I'd be willing to bet rate of mental illness among rpers is higher than that for the avg population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 01:57 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: what is the most legitimate/concerning gender issue(s) to you?Too many aimless and single males (ones without dependents like wives and children) is a destabilizing force to any nation. Age of first marriage is rising. People are having less children. Baby boomers are living forever while age threshold for social security and medicare aren't rising fast enough (so aging ppl are going to cripple us). I'm not predicting violent revolution or anything. But there's going to be a lot of economic uncertainty. That's not comforting for older ppl who've got someth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers: What's your take on the idea of vulnerability as a strength?It's a great strategy if you look good. Pretend to be suicidal and all women want to cure you with their golden vagina. If you look ugly you are just some suicidal downer. If I see a yacht with a few holes in it that I can fix and the seller can't, I can get a good deal. If I see a small rowboat that's cracked beyond repair, that's not worth my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 05:11 AM |
| 1 | QForAll: What makes someone or something a "feminist" or "feminism"What counts as “feminist” varies from person to person. It’s subjective in that sense. To deal with this, I propose that what can be closest to “objectively feminist” would use an intersubjective definition of feminism. We define it by consensus or quorum. Eg how polarizing a movie is between feminists and anti-feminists is a strong indicator that a movie is feminist, regardless of what we assume to be writer intent. This presents a measurable standard. This works out for other subjective standa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: how do you feel if your wife is not just professionally mediocre, but has had many failures?All of your examples sound fine for dating but not marriage. That mostly has to do with them being 40. If I married them young before they failed, then that’s not a big deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 09:40 PM |
| 20 | Be gone thots!Silicon > Silicone | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/18 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediYes you’re misinterpreting it. Rey is clearly not rich and he knows that. The OP responded to him: “Strong with this one, the sarcasm is.” I’m not the only one who got his sarcasm. And people really do believe that being wealthy is needed for Mary Sueness because they believe that being too perfect is what define Mary Sues. See SpaceWhiskey’s response to you. He’s drawing attention to the fact that Rey is poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediI disagree with with Mary Sues and Marty Stus needing to be rich. Plenty of characters exist in media that seem too good to be true and they get away with that. Batman is a genius philanthropist billionaire. Iron Man is a genius philanthropist billionaire. They're not generally accepted as Marty Stus. They're not bland (they're shown to have personality, flaws, backgrounds, and it's all delved into). I don't deny that Mary Sues tend to be hated more. TVtropes gives some speculation as to why: On… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediHe's being sarcastic. There are lots of examples of male supergenius billionaires and no one bats a batman I mean eye. Like Tony Stark. In all seriousness though, I don't think that superiority alone is enough for Mary Sues and Gary Stus. I think it's more the fact that they seem like fulfillment fantasies. I can see Neo being a fulfillment fantasy. I don't see it from Tony Stark. There's a sort of blandness to fulfillment/power fantasy characters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 07:53 AM |
| 3 | Dave Chappelle accurately describes the experience of being a woman in new Netflix special.Most women don't have an ass or tits to grab. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Refuting criticism of The Last Jedibecause they are largely indistinguishable from Male Power Fantasies Nah, they're distinguishable to me. To start with, I'm using a casual definition of "power fantasy" similar to this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerFantasy I'd say honestly now, however, that the power fantasy presented by TLJ is closer to a traditionally masculine one that a feminine one. It's masculine in the sense that it has action, lightsabers, fighting, wars, etc. What it's missing is a training montage a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediNormal people aren’t going to overthink as much and won’t see symbols of giant vaginas being jumped into. People like us are needed... for people like us. And while what you’re saying might be true, I still don’t think males in general are as likely to see subtle relationship chemistry. Eg the gay one which I didn’t care for or even see until women kept gushing over it. We are talking about young males in my thread who see Kylo as some tantrum throwing manbaby while women are fantasizing over hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediA lecture on the yonic symbolism in TLJ from you would have been great | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediWhere were you yesterday for my thread? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 02:51 AM |
| 2 | What age is too young to game and why?4. 5 is the youngest i remember having explicit sexual interest in girls. So 4 is too young for me. Otherwise, you're never too young to learn and try things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 10:45 PM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchDude, I promise you your efforts won't go to waste. Feminists might ignore or hide your righteous comment, but I won't. I'm posting this to a chatroom I'm in right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 10:33 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI think she's talking about disagreeing with the idea that Kylo and Rey are presented in a way that has romantic/sexual tension. IME, women have generally been quicker to spot it than men. A lot of men think Kylo is a tantrum throwing man-baby who is a failure at everything. I think Adam Driver is unattractive, and yet somehow a lot of girls are gushing over him. He's even on ladyboners subreddit. Chalk that up to male vs female sexuality. I'm appreciative that some women, like you and spacewhis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 07:10 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchWhat would lead you to that conclusion? Finn is a beta. Yes, I do think that. He behaves that way. He's a nice, inhibited guy who feels bad about hurting innocent people. He's loyal to Rey. Overall, he gives me a "nice person" impression. He didn't GO for Rose though. He had no romantic interest in her that's why Rose's kiss took him by surprise. Look at what I said in my OP: "They even gave him an Asian Female side character already". They. I consider it a feature of the story, not a feature of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 06:56 PM |
| 6 | Refuting criticism of The Last JediPo isn’t beta. He was described as a hothead and he doesn’t follow orders. Who in the world is categorizing him as a beta? Finn is a nice guy though and very loyal to Rey, and that’s primarily why I called him beta in my own post. It isn’t insulting to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 05:54 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI don't see it the way you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchCasting, script, really any number of things that are causing the reactions we're seeing. Not just negative, but positive (e.g. the women in this very thread talking about chemistry between certain characters). I don't understand how people think all of this is just incidental. There's always going to be arguments on how much of these ideas are fan-driven and how much are deliberate from the content producers. I disagree with ppl arguing that it's almost completely the former. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 05:01 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI guess that some people are just looking for reasons to be offended. This is definitely a challenge for discussion ofc. E.g. The reaction manosphereans and others have towards the movie causes some of their opponents to cling more and defend the movie more. I'm actually enjoying how this is playing out. The dynamics of this influence have made the movie a lot better for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:54 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI don't think you're being dishonest, but i'll be cooperative enough with you to say that I can see why you'd think I'm implying you're not. I suppose I'm grateful to her for more than just honesty. There's a personality difference. Some ppl err on the side of "seeing more from less". Others err on the side of "seeing less from more". Beyond that though it still takes bluntness/forwardness to be candid about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:47 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI don't find the reasons all that mysterious. I'm actually baffled how so many people here don't think the choices made for this movie had deliberation behind them at all. It's not to say we have to mind it, but people don't even want to recognize it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:40 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchIt's never simply Luke is a man and Rey is a woman. Their gender alone will invoke existing stereotypes and tropes. If you want to deconstruct it in a pomo fashion, then sure nothing is certain objectively and we can't mindread the intent of the content producers. E.g. If they actually made the villain Rey's father, I'd have called that oedipal as well. You could say that's arbitrary or that the root cause of these stereotypes come down to gender. But even then, you can still look at the effect … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:34 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchHow is it "misguided"? It's not even central to the point. I spent a few sentences saying how some people thought of the movie. The rest is focused elsewhere. I am suggesting that the fact that audiences themselves are split on the movie (see this very thread where most red and purple males seem to have some issue or another with the movie while most bp women liked it) is significant. I'm guessing there was obvious deliberation in choices made to expand the market (targeting more female demograp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:22 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchWhat do you think I was saying that caused you to write that towards me? Also, if you have a problem with discussing generalizations or even a problem with people noticing generalizations, then what are you doing in this subreddit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:16 PM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchHey, that's fine. If you don't want to see it, then you don't have to see it. None of this is written in stone after all. No matter what I say, you'll find something to argue about. You can choose to stay as dismissive as you have been since the start. I believe that there's something significant for female nerds (including even ones in this very thread) to work with. We'll have to agree to disagree. It's a difference in personality between us. You don't like spotting these things or finding sig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:13 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchTHREE? Who is the third guy chasing her/proposing to her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 07:55 AM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI don't even care if they like Snape, Draco, Kylo, whatever. I actually think it's cute there's apparently a lot of Reylo fanfic out there. A friend linked this to me: https://reylofic.tumblr.com/post/167393248761/rec-masterpost I can't stand fanfics myself (though I read Stonetear's, since he's a minor celeb now), but it's just so obvious to me the dude and his potential relationship, abusive or not, has its fans. I don't even know why anger-phasing trpers would care about Snape being popular. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 07:06 AM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchIt's not just his shittiness. I'm having trouble convincing some people that there was any subtext at all to be read. I mean, it's possible we're all reading too much into it and it's unintentional. There's always room for doubt. But the point is there's something there that distinctly reminds me of stuff I found in literotica/romance aisles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 06:58 AM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchHe’s super condescending, that’s for sure. And the whole “you’re nothing and garbage to the whole universe but not to me” is abusive boyfriend 101. SpaceWhiskey++ You're one of the better bpers for being honest about this. Maybe haunting too, whomever she is. I felt like I was arguing with a wall in here. How are people not seeing this? Initially, I was confused too. Frankly, I found Adam Driver to be ugly or neutral at best, but I'm a straight male who doesn't automatically synthesize male attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 06:51 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchWhat are you expecting us to do? Ignore that gendered tropes and stereotypes already exist? I'm not denying that I'm using gendered tropes/stereotypes. If you think that the oedipal nature of Luke's relationship with Vader is repeated in the new series, and isn't just a gendered inversion, I'll listen. Look at ppl in this very thread fangirling over a potential romantic/sexual relationship between Ren and Kylo. The nature of the relationship is different even if you believe the path to redemptio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 06:20 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchWhatever floats your boat, pgr | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 02:36 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchYour friends are not alt right. Most people irl are not alt right nor are they that mad about TLJ. Most people on the alt right are raging about it. Go to the_donald, altright subreddit, or just google around : https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a38cb78e4b0860bf4aab5b1 You don’t have to take my word for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 02:33 AM |
| 3 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchYou’re right that I wouldn’t consider the gender inversion factor as much If Rey had been a man and Finn a woman. So what? The fact of the matter is that the saving the princess is an existing trope that Rey doesn’t fit into. She also can’t fit into male tropes like the Oedipal archetype. The closest women have is Electra complex, which we won’t see. I don’t claim that it’s “fair” that it’s a male archetype that women can’t or don’t fit into. Main protag redeeming a potential love interest is mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 01:58 AM |
| 5 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchIs Rey going off to quest at the behest of a princess/prince? Is Darth Vader a potential love interest for Luke? Where were the proposals that Luke was rejecting? What kind of tension or 1-on-1s did Luke have with his foil/s? Compare that to Rey’s. They’re not clear cut examples in a vacuum, but it’s clear to me that Rey’s gender affects the script. It’s more of a female power fantasy than what SW was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 01:20 AM |
| 5 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchIt’s not just a male power fantasy. Films that are rarely nothing but one big trope. The Matrix is power fantasy. More male than female because of a lot of male interests like guns and martial arts. I suppose you could say the same about TLJ. But it’s more female than past SWs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 01:09 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI’m neutral. Maybe because I’m not a die-hard fan. I just like noticing things and being shown that I’m right when it comes to see and predicting trends. I actually like it more than I initially did now that I’ve autistically analyzed the shit out of it with some people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 12:27 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchFiggy actually convInced me of that potential arc. The director said it himself that Kylo can still be redeemed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 12:22 AM |
| 3 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI don’t deny there’s overlap between male and female power fantasies. The fact that it still has lightsaber battles and isn’t just a complete chic flick? I’d be a moron not to see similarities between this and a male power fantasy besides the obvious fact that Rey is a woman. It’s more of a female power fantasy than past Star Wars primarily because she’s a woman though and secondarily because of feminine tropes tacked on. It shows a feminine interest influence on the SW franchise when past movie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 12:20 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchWhat’s more to say? You don’t see much likelihood of Kylo’s redemption or other female fan service. You’re not likely to accept many theories about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 12:09 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchWomen have been reliable consumers forever as they tend to be daily shopper/grocery shoppers. Men’s spending habits are less cOnsistent, so I don’t disagree with you there. It’s not about jobs alone but how their interests are now taking more of a front seat. Possibly because of growing independence or aging singles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 12:08 AM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchHow does Rey conform to the feminine stereotype? Why do you think I corrected you on it being a feature of her STORY rather than her character? Men chasing a woman has nothing to do with her personal character besides maybe pointing out that she has some kind of allure over them. Neo, for example, is very bland as a character. He's no macho masculine stereotype. But his story is one that many males are stereotypically interested in. It has guns and martial arts. His STORY is typical male power f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:55 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI think you're trying to force a romantic storyline onto Rey just to support your argument. I can't definitively prove it to you. That's why I said /r/figthief and I put it at 80:20. She and I are betting on it being the result. There's a small chance we're wrong. Yeah, Finn has a crush on her. This is hardly a defining feature of her character. It's a feature of her STORY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:43 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchThe characters are more feminine or relatable to women than men. It's mostly gender (appearance and behaviour) but also in feminine or masculine stereotypes/tropes. E.g. Luke flies off on a quest involving chasing, helping/saving a princess. Ends up fighting his father. It has tropes at least as old as Oedipus. Rey ends up pursued and even proposed to by men. She rejects the men and will accept them on her own terms and own time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:36 PM |
| 7 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchGary Stu. Uninteresting personalities make sense for power fantasies. Neo is male power fantasy. You can't just give him too much character. He's "generic male with generic personality". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:27 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI doubt they are the majority. I think Disney is trying to expand the target audience for the SW franchise. Trying is the key word here. Whay exactly are you talking about when you speak of economic and demographic shift? Aging population. Women getting more economic power. Zeitgeist/Cultural shift. All of these are factors I'm looking at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:24 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI mean the prequel movies don't explain his heritage. His mom was a slave nobody who showed no affinity for the force. She met an ignoble end. Anakin himself was born through immaculate conception or something. He's like Force Jesus gone wrong. Midichlorians floating around in the aether. Midichlorians didn't make any explicit appearance before the prequels. The EU frequently had powerful force users come from no where. No lineage. Even the most powerful entity, Abeloth, was some servant unrelat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:20 PM |
| 1 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchTheir connection is not because Kylo thinks she's special. It's because she is special. Sure. We can use that wording. The same applies to other female power fantasy characters. Bella Swan wasn't a nobody either. We discover later that all this time, she actually was special. She has some critical power that blocks the mental influence/power of vampires. She had it even as a human. She wasn't just special because because Edward and Jacob liked her. The only difference between Luke being the Chos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 11:03 PM |
| 3 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI have some problems with this. The first introduction to Rey is an extended montage of how she takes care of herself, all alone. Why is it unlikely that a person who grew up with no family on a hard planet would be well-equipped later in life? She spends all day pillaging old ships for parts - it doesn't puzzle me why she is familiar with ships later in the movie. Why is Rey a Mary Sue but Luke is not? I don't know why you are arguing with me on this point. I'm practically brushing aside compla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 10:30 PM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI see your confusion. That's my bad for not clarifying. I was remarking on this habit a lot of girls have of shipping straight male characters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 10:19 PM |
| 0 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI don't. But it plays into a stereotype of nerdy and/or beta guys who fail with girls going off and getting an Asian gf, or even becoming expats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 10:07 PM |
| 3 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchYou likely have feminist friends. Note that I'm not talking about feminists. I doubt Stephanie Meyer cared about feminist interests when writing Twilight. A lot of trash in the literotica/romance aisles of bookstores are feminine interest, but have abusive males too. Still feminine interest. Finn ain't gay. He's just beta, and he got an Asian girl like any beta male. That so many women are shipping them (Edit: shipping Finn and Poe) just goes to show a common female sexual perversion/lack of und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 10:04 PM |
| 2 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchIt's not necessarily feminist propaganda alone. It also has "feminine interests". Feminine interests aren't always feminist. Literotica in the romance aisles of bookstores aren't generally feminist, but they're feminine interest. If you see more of that, it's not necessarily feminists gaining power, but females in general getting more power/attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 09:52 PM |
| 3 | [SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Last PatriarchI dont think it's intentional from the producers, necessarily. I think providers are just catering to what they think is an new market. New buyers. It's just a great example of shifting demographics/economic power to me. It makes sense as women gain more economic power and control over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 09:50 PM |
| 5 | Reddit seems more anti-men than anti-womenWait till he sees Phase 2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 11:34 PM |
| 8 | Reddit seems more anti-men than anti-womenShe is cheering the victory of The Feminine ImperativeTM . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why do so many men have such low self esteem about their looks or personality and what can we do to fix this?Do you mean in appearance? If so then I agree. Men don’t need to be that physically attractive. The women here who care a lot about physical appearance are a minority. Most women cave in to pressure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 09:27 PM |
| 5 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillIt can be relatable depending on degree. Casual sex on demand isn't something most men can get. If it's really purely casual sex they want they can always go for a ho or get surgery. If they can't even do that, I'd suspect they're poor too. That's a legitimate issue too (as in: recognized as difficult to fix by most people). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 01:09 AM |
| 1 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillI'll swipe right on you to make it 351. Would that make you feel less of a victim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 12:58 AM |
| 0 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillThanks. You're my friend too. But you still wouldn't care that I've been incel for the past 1-2 days. In a perfect world, we'd all have basic minimum income and there'd be no need for work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 12:06 AM |
| 2 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillBut I can't make myself care that some guy isn't getting as much casual sex as he wants. I thought you cared for my plight. We shared so many of our deepest insecurities with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are irritating as fuckOmega doesn’t even make sense in a dichotomy. A trichotomy doesn’t make sense. An omega can be either failed alpha or failed beta. It’s a separate axis. See my model here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7dp96u/normalizing_standards_statusbehaviourcharacter/ Omega is just a status axis loser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 06:29 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] The Black Pill is banned on here not because of inaccuracy, but because of its implications.The black pill isn’t banned here. /u/notworthmuch20xx has a black pill label. He’s fine here. What’s banned are incel whining topics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Why do you choose to adopt such a bleak view of life?OP thinks these views are a choice. Anyway, this convo doesn't seem productive anymore. If you're unwilling to see the comparison now, then nothing more I say will help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/18 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do you choose to adopt such a bleak view of life?I don't think it's really just a simple choice for a fair portion of people. That's something you should tell the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/18 08:39 PM |
| 2 | Why do you choose to adopt such a bleak view of life?That means they have the wrong belief. They could have chosen to believe in something happier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/18 09:41 AM |
| 2 | Why do you choose to adopt such a bleak view of life?Same reason atheists willfully choose not to believe in God. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/18 09:28 AM |
| 0 | QForRPMen/MGTOWs: Besides children, why would a female get married?Status, orgasms, relief, happiness. The closest ally outside her blood relations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/17 03:18 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Do You Have a Larger Vocabulary Than Your Others?It's had no noticeable effect. There were other caste-related issues that were more apparent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Actively engineering attachmentEuphoria. (Drugs.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Actively engineering attachmentwhen I am out for a good time and know that I will be in a state of euphoria (in my case, from music/dancing and liquor/drugs) I take her worn panties with me and wear it like a bandana mask. It serves the dual function of my theoretical monogamy olfactory method, and, securing a degree of anonymity among insufferable instagram attention whores who draft you into their media delusion just because you are occupying space near them. No way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 06:40 PM |
| 5 | [Q4ALL] Why is a women’s virginity often linked with her being asexual, religious or even mentally unstable?Right, but desperate men are often desperate for reasons. The type of men who'd "put their cock in anything" aren't her type. She's less sexual for those type of people. She's more likely to be considered "asexual". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 07:53 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Do You Have a Larger Vocabulary Than Your Others?On avg, I do, but I haven't dated enough academic equals. Women who are my academic equals use more varied vocab than me. I work in the tech industry and communicate with a lot of ppl, both business and engineering. It forces me to write in simple terms unless the technical terms are absolutely necessary. I wouldn't bother writing more than a small paragraph or two to most coworkers. Using esoteric words is pointless as a lot of normal people outside ppd actually won't even google the terms them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 07:47 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Why is a women’s virginity often linked with her being asexual, religious or even mentally unstable?she could also be ugly, but that’s something that’s discernible from the outset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Are you still willing to help women?Well that makes sense. The avg woman can handle spiders, but can still be intimidated by ones that are larger and look like they can move fast. What if it dodged her attack and leaped at her!? I have cognitive empathy. I get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 04:26 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Are you still willing to help women?I believe it's mainly a subset of girly women here, buartha. And mainly vs the faster spiders. I think they're intimidated that their targets might dodge the shot and get revenge against them lol. Only reason I brought up spiders was because OP and BPP both talked about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Are you still willing to help women?Yeah I can imagine doing it for a wife. I can’t think of many male friends who could make me get off my butt to kill a spider for them in the garage, whether that was mine or his. I actually believe many of my female relations cant do it. I have a hard time believing my male friends can’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 09:20 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Are you still willing to help women?Common courtesy makes sense. That’s it makes more sense in bpp’s fiction for the most small women in that situation to get help. Or pregnant women. Or old people. Feminists don’t want men to assume they need help just because they are women. It’s that assumption that bothers a lot of them. Ie they want it so that a woman who “looks” as strong and large as a man is assumed to have the same physical abilities as a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 09:14 PM |
| 11 | Q4RP: Are you still willing to help women?Why shouldn’t they be left to fend for themselves? That’s what feminists want. That’s how men already behave. No one is gonna help Big Bertha the 200 woman built like a linebacker carry her bags. Genuinely helpful people are going to be helping Stacey the 100 lbs girl even if they had no sexual interest in her, Agnes the 90 yr old grandma, or Martha the 8 month pregnant mom, but not gonna help Bertha. Not many are gonna help Obese Therese either. “She needs the exercise anyway.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 09:03 PM |
| 9 | Q4RP: Are you still willing to help women?Depends on what I’m helping “women” with. I don’t help stranger women just because they are women. I help my mother, female cousins, and my gf. They’re weak. Here’s what I don’t hnderstand. Why would nonsexist men assume women need help killing spiders? This isn’t some kind of physical limitation. It takes no strength to kill a spider. Women don’t need male muscles. A moderately brave child could do it. If I completely bought into that feminist lie that men and women are the exact same psycholog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 08:52 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: Would you marry/ lifetime LTR a woman with no ambition?If I didn’t have plans to have kids, yes. If I did, then it’s better that she isn’t a complete dumbass. Ideally speaking, I’d be a tyrant with a harem but since we don’t live in fantasy a woman that isn’t a complete failure in every metric would be better as a mom. She doesn’t actually need to work or have money at all. This is why I understand MRS degrees. It’s a kind of evidence of class/competency. I’d also judge her on her family. It’s not fair but that’s evidence of heritage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 08:41 PM |
| 5 | Male collective self esteem and pill dogmaand yet they are way more insecure than men. it's incredible i posit that it's their localized/subjectivist view and social sensitivity relative to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/17 12:32 AM |
| 10 | Male collective self esteem and pill dogmaOnce they are secure, they often leave the pillosphere. Remember that insecure rper, the middle-aged one who supposedly picked up tossed receipts and had elaborate discussions to trick women into thinking he had more money than he did to date them? He's much more secure now. He got married. He's in a one way open relationship - she's allowed to see other people, he's not. In addition, she's in charge of the household, and he calls himself the sub. That takes a lot of security. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/17 12:07 AM |
| 4 | You've been marooned on a desert island for the rest of your life with a man and a womanEyelids too sharp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/17 02:39 AM |
| 5 | Sexual dynamics and social classWhat you mentioned is included in this: https://i.redd.it/4nii4x4v7ezz.png under family structure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?Humble folk self-inhibit themselves. They don't say things that could appear too proud and/or they're worried about being challenged. Most people wouldn't know how many humble ppl we actually have in ppd. I hear about them all the time now. If I didn't bother digging I'd assume there were none. If I wasn't concerned for their anonymity, I'd have dragged them kicking and screaming into the limelight. This is why so many guys need wingmen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?Entj | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 07:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50You don’t have anything against what I said. You’re just adding nuance / explaining the youth PoV. I get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?If you pointed it out to me, I’d adjust my ideas. I wouldn’t have much choice in the matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 07:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50I see you're more concerned about the words I chose. How about I change it then: "Young people here in Cali might care, but not enough to educate themselves on economic policies. They care more about reading up on social justice." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 04:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50It can. People can rent out rooms and houses. I rent out my first home because I dont need to live there. There's nothing that that stops him from renting out rooms of a house he lives in to help him pay for the mortgage. There are plenty of benefits to buying a home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 04:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50You’d think that, but not enough young people I knew in college or graduating knew what prop 13 was even about. They also never vote locally in ways that relieve economic pressure. I consistently vote in ways that raise my own property values. Eg less residential zoning more commercial. Very few people younger than me in my cities care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 04:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50That savings doesn't grow nearly as fast once you consider leverage. If you think of it as an investment, with mortgage you're borrowing hundreds of thousands of dollars from the bank to invest. It's risky, but you're using money that doesn't belong to you to invest and you can collect rent in the mean time. It makes sense in a lot of circumstances. Mortgage is one of the most common ways I see middle class elevate themselves to the UMC in the US. No real bank will lend you that much to go off a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 04:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50He's being conservative from his own POV, in terms of what he needs to prepare for. He's being "pessimistic" in his calculations -- a quality shared by a lot of engineers. What you're presenting is an optimistic view (pessimistic neutral at worse). The problems of Bay Area real estate are too numerous to go into comprehensively. One of the major possibilities that could really bring property values down would be is if we got rid of California Proposition 13. It puts a cap on ad valorem tax growt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 03:46 AM |
| 2 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50He's being more reasonable than you think. I've known him for a while now. He's just factoring in inflation into his calculations. I'm not sure he's thinking of buying a place for a whole family right now. It's more hypothetical for now. He's been talking to me and others about these thoughts for a while now. He's calculating based on likely trajectory. It's reasonable because he's very young and already in the mid 100ks to 200k range. In 10 yrs or more when he's making around 300k from a combin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 03:14 AM |
| 1 | "Are you a Loser?" ---Check if you fit the criteria on the Loser ListThat’s not loser behaviour from you. Are you saying you’d have let losers get away with demanding you drop your hobbies? That sounds like losers’ victims’ behaviour rather than losers’ behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 01:48 AM |
| 2 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50I don’t understand the myopia I keep seeing, not just in this thread but the intelligence one. Is it prole blindness or elite modesty. Tell me honestly, are you expecting us to be modest? That’s reserved for offline. No one has to care online. Or are you just unaware of how much income inequality there is in the USA? For reference, I actually have proof of who he is irl and he’s a real deal. Working tech industry in Bay Area and on a good trajectory and he’s undeniably smarter than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/17 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?its "not done", gauche Right. Most people are more modest about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 11:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50High inequality. In the Bay, it would be around 40-50 miles from Silicon Valley to Oakland. Less extreme would be maybe the Heart of SV to the trashier areas of San Jose. That would be in a worse school district for the kids, the commute might still be an hour in rush hour, and the property values didn't have promising futures. Something like 30-40 mile commute can end up being 1 to 1.5 hr commute during rush hour. It's also possible she's just going to school and not working. SirN is actually y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?SAT scores are often used as a proxy because the test g-weights like an IQ test. SAT scores are part of academics, but yes they're likely better than GPA. I don't think it matters much though. Intelligence is puffed up too much. Yeah. It doesn't matter as much on the high end for success. Many US presidents only have 1200-1400 range for SAT scores. It just matters for OP's q though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 10:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?I haven't found as reliable stats about personal income as I have for household. You're probably right though. Anyway, at least we both can agree /u/SlimLovin is just wrong and being shrill while at it. There are few ways to answer the OP objectively. What else besides income and academics that almost everyone has an idea of? A large number of us haven't bothered taking IQ tests online and ppl would be even more triggered by those metrics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 10:51 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?Dubslav_von_Chekem++ top 1% is something like 300k-350k /u/SlimLovin has prole myopia. Edit: Oh it's $465,626 now. Never mind then. Still not "you have no fucking idea how much these guys have" level. That's like a surgeon. My neighbour is a surgeon. Has 5 cars. No rolls there. He's probably referring to the top 0.1%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 10:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50Because he's going to be making 300k+ in an area where other people are making around the same amount. That means competition. Unless he wants to see 1.5 hr commutes like what I see on my "mere" 1 to 1.5 million dollar homes, he's gonna have to pay more to be closer to his work, at least in something better than a shitshack home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 09:56 PM |
| 1 | "Are you a Loser?" ---Check if you fit the criteria on the Loser ListAlso have you really ever seen a woman over 35 being hot? These loser traits definitely fit together under a package. How many of these things would you say you have done or currently do in your relationships? Maybe 3-4 out of the five. Not just in romantic but platonic and familial relationships as well. Do you feel any sort of way about the negative emotions you stir up in your partners when you behave this way to them? Yes. I feel some guilt, some times. That's usually what sets up the "mean … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 09:33 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?Also have you really ever seen a woman over 35 being hot? I've seen 50+ yr olds I'd want to bang if I were single. Stacey's mom has got it going on. I can see where Stacey got her genes came from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?Examples: I dont believe "The Wall" is an SMV thing. The Rationale Male didn't think things through carefully at the time, because it was a nascent idea. AFAIK, he was the first to post that SMV/Wall graph. Age is more of a beta concern for RMV. Long term considerations. Why the fuck would I care how old a woman is if it's just for sex and I don't have long term considerations like kids and marriage. The number doesn't matter. How hot she looks does. And there are clearly hot "post wall" women. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 08:20 PM |
| 9 | Q4ALL - Is There a Correlation Between Intelligence and Chosen Theory?I've been in the top 1% academically throughout my life and close to top 1% now financially. Same with random iq tests. I'm mostly red. Willingness to accept ideas or change your mind given new information? (Try to think back to the last time you formed "new" thoughts about attraction). There's no willingness involved here. I have no control over what I believe. If I find new information that sounds reasonable, I compulsively start to believe it. It's amazing to me that some people actually cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 07:38 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Male cheating is worse and more hypocritical than female cheatingLet me clarify what we later discussed in irc. The damage will be there regardless, but as a proportion of total household income, it’s greater when the man is the breadwinner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 04:56 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Male cheating is worse and more hypocritical than female cheatingIt doesn’t. We talked about this. If the spouse’s income isn’t counted towards child support then if the man isn’t a breadwinner then there’s less child support. If he is the one making all the money and he’s responsible for his child support then he’s on the hook for more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 04:35 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Male cheating is worse and more hypocritical than female cheatingThe wife isn’t tricked into providing for a child not her own. There is never that question. That being said, financial damage is still being dealt if the man is primary bread winner and has to pay child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Can small flaws make you a relationship failure, or are ongoing problems a product of a fundamental and intangible flaw?Everything happens for a reason as they say In this case, it's mental illness. lol I don't have a huge problem with it. I have my own pathologies. I've been suspecting for a while that ppl have so quickly agreed with my assessments of them irl and online because I'm charitable to them. I can't help it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 12:46 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?And a fair amount of older men were always available who don't care at all and will foot the bill, but usually they came with other problems. What other problems, btw? And yeah, i never denied wealthy men would foot the bill for women. Stay-at-home-wives/Trophy wives exist after all. They just need to have stellar "personalities" like I said initially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?Some things don't require close inspection. You were working. Aren't you doing stuff NOW even? Thinking of entering a new career? You didn't just say "fuck it, I got my husband. Debt doesn't matter anymore." Unless I'm missing something you don't seem like a counterexample at all. But hey, if you got wealthy men to foot 35k bills for you for short term things before meeting your H then good for you. Maybe you're an exceptionally talented woman. I can't imagine that being most men or women. Most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?You were going through jobs. Did you ever stupidly present yourself as a slacker taking advantage of some chump BB? It's a matter of character. Even if it's a small amount like 10k USD, there's a certain stupidity/lack of tact to it. I would assume you lack FTO, are taking advantage of me, and are more likely to ditch me for the next chump. If you're not LTR-worthy and are gonna just cost me 35k, why aren't I just paying for whores instead? In fairness, I often let women crash with me rent free.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?The OP didn't have anything about debt. It's just about changing careers. An LTR's finances doesn't factor in my mind at all except for how it might correlate to her personality and genes. I was mostly responding to your scenario about student debt. I just joked that she better have a stellar personality and platinum pussy (i.e. not a bitch and cute enough), because not that many men these days are eager to bankroll a girlfriend for 35k (i.e. she's not even attempting to pay for it herself). You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?It's not crazy at all. I said myself 35k or 50k whatever is nothing to me. My problem would be with some chick who actually expects her man to foot that kind of bill for her or assumes it's no big problem. i haven't isolated what the variable is. Whether it's inconsideration, selfishness, or naivety. I'll figure it out later. But point is, you recognize yourself that even two lawyer parents wouldn't have that much uninvested money lying around that they'd be willing to drain. If some chick expec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?yeah and she can pay for that while I wait. I might still marry such a broad anyway depending on other circumstances, but who are you kidding that men won't take such considerations into account. If you don't expect parents to pay for their daughter's 50k, how many single males do you think there are ready to just foot that kind of bill? I won't hold it against the woman, but fat chance i'll hand off a 50k check when divorce is legally trivial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?Oh yeah you did say student debt. lol she better have a stellar personality and a platinum pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?Sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you LTR or marry a woman in her early 20’s who is trying to change careers?The 35k debt isn't that much to me, but I'd be suspicious that she just wants me to pay for that when she could just go bankrupt and become dependent on me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:22 PM |
| 10 | Can small flaws make you a relationship failure, or are ongoing problems a product of a fundamental and intangible flaw?Flaws are forgivable. Lack of assets to make up for the flaws is a greater problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 07:55 PM |
| 10 | Can small flaws make you a relationship failure, or are ongoing problems a product of a fundamental and intangible flaw?I'm often one of the first to hyperanalyze and tell ppl what's wrong with them. I even do so tactfully in a way they dont turn overfeeler on me, wasting my efforts. The problem is I'll often get people who agree STRONGLY with what I say, and then forget what I said or just be incapable of internalizing. That's why they're mental illnesses. They're compulsive and pathological. So I actually have a different problem from PBR. Ppl dont mind listening. They're just incapable of actually implementing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women, If you had to choose one: would you rather have your man be sexist or autistic?All negative sexism bordering on autistic misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women, If you had to choose one: would you rather have your man be sexist or autistic?If your only options were those two, which would you pick? It's just a hypothetical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Suppose that the TRP gurus are indeed thriving/successful men. What is their motivation for spending their spare time on TRP/PPD?I was attempting to be as spergy as you, as you can probably tell from my diction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 12:29 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Suppose that the TRP gurus are indeed thriving/successful men. What is their motivation for spending their spare time on TRP/PPD?Edit 2: I showed my little sister this post and she laughed her ass off. She beamed an effervescent smile and said, "This is so NERDy!" She laughed. It gave her a great laugh. She read it in a funny satirical Poindexter "nerd" voice. She showed me this image; that's what she imagines the author looks like. She's a cool/attractive young 20-year-old, and her laughter/fascination gave me fresh perspective on how spergy TRP terminology is. (I can be very oblivious to linguistic sperginess, as you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/17 04:21 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Given the amount of time they spend on Reddit, the TRP gurus are very unlikely to be successful/thriving men IRL, and are therefore a very dubious source to take advice from.Congrats on the baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/17 08:45 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Given the amount of time they spend on Reddit, the TRP gurus are very unlikely to be successful/thriving men IRL, and are therefore a very dubious source to take advice from.Wew, and people say tech industry is tough. I'm glad I'm not in your industry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/17 07:39 AM |
| 1 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?I agree. Libertarianism makes sense to a certain group of people. Not to me. But I’m fairly “unprincipled” politically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 10:20 PM |
| 2 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?Some people want a strong state to control others. Eg make them pay taxes to fund public services that he benefits off of more than others would. I don’t know his personal situation ofc so I’m just giving hypothetical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 09:50 PM |
| 3 | What's the deal with Elon Musk?He’s eccentric and fun and insha’Elon we will one day have an underground commute in the Bay Area for privileged Tesla drivers. I don’t care if he turns into the most obnoxious incel in the world; so long as he gives me that underground passage he’s fine by me. Elon ackbar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 09:43 PM |
| 3 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?/u/the_calibre_cat disagrees with both you and /u/blackheartblackmask The truth is that you probably just believe shit because it suits you, you dismiss contradictions because it doesn't feel good so therefore everyone else is wrong Yes. So does everyone else. Thats human nature. He's saying that isn't entirely true for him. He is libertarian because that's what makes sense to him, not because it suits him personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 09:29 PM |
| 4 | What's the deal with Elon Musk?If you include extrovert as part of ”nonnerdy”, then they have extro advantage. ie more opportunities. If nerdy women are too uncertain or poor at expressing themselves it might not come out as laudatory as some guys, like Musk, want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 08:59 PM |
| 14 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?This is the problem with people without intuitive sense. People who can’t or won’t see how different topics relate. They’re going to see non sequiturs everywhere. “Oh you’re going to talk about zero sum game after I talked about amassing wealth at the expense of others? Non sequitur! Why don’t I ask you about how you feel about unicorns!” They actually believe both are non sequiturs on the same level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 08:41 PM |
| 7 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?very few people are confused about what /u/Littleknownfacts is talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 08:26 PM |
| 2 | The marriage calculus - how inequality is remaking the American familyThe point of those concepts is to distinguish conceptually objective factors from "attraction". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Question for Divorced Women: What was the effect of divorce on your social life?Would you mind sharing a piece or two of your mother's advice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 04:48 PM |
| 4 | Help me understand selfishnessWhat do you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand selfishnessYou sound neurotic and unsure of yourself. I am going to appear selfish to people who don’t know me, but that has more to do with high ego and trust in myself. What’s good for me is good for people I care about. Perhaps you just aren’t seeing that side of people. It’s not always about overt selfishness. It just appears that way to you because you have trouble understanding other people. That woman who is stingy about money could just have a family to take care of. She still “desires human relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 01:00 AM |
| 4 | Placing kids, but especially boys, in team sports is healthy for their social development and will likely benefit them in many facets of life.Good point but we can find even better examples, like affirmative/enthusiastic consent. I remember a couple years back on TBP, a mother talked about how she taught her son to be extra certain about getting affirmative consent. Explicit. Ie “will you have sex with me”. And to continue asking for every new position or type of sex. Even the other bpers argued with her on pragmatism of that. The argument was short through because bpers generally hate being mean to each other. Wonder what percentage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Q4 Men I'll Never Meet: What do you have to offer me?Oh that is straight up abusive, Griddy. That or they’re clowning on her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Q4 Men I'll Never Meet: What do you have to offer me?I refuse to believe it's not intentional. Bro, look at the pic. It's right there. You have eyes. Does it LOOK good to you? No? Then you could have taken a better pic. Yeah, I choose to believe it's intentional. Subtle dread, you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Article: A fear of getting dumped kills romance and commitment - implications for TRP's "Dread Game"?Makes sense. No one denies that nuclear dread is last resort. By then the relationship is close to over anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: What exactly holds women from developing marketable skills while SAHMing?Nice self-promotion/advertising there. 😆 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: What exactly holds women from developing marketable skills while SAHMing?This is especially true in competitive spaces like Bay Area. I was listening to NPR and they were talking about a woman making 38k while her husband made bank. They were already near the top tax bracket, so her additional 38k was taxed near 50% (fed plus california's near-10% state income). Post tax, she's getting 20k back which is almost ALL going into daycare. I hope she enjoys her work, because otherwise why bother. I'd be pissed as the husband in that scenario. She'd be better off at home fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 08:08 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: What exactly holds women from developing marketable skills while SAHMing?Two salaries isn't always more than one. In most cases, if a wife of mine made less than 100k, she probably shouldn't bother unless she actually enjoys the work. She's better off managing household money, investing, and taking care of rental properties. Or she can be with the kid and saving us on childcare costs too. It depends on tax bracket. In a lot of cases, it's just better to have one working spouse and improved quality of life for both. The main problem is when it comes to alimony. That's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4 Men I'll Never Meet: What do you have to offer me?Intimacy is met in the middle for me. How much I give depends on how much I'm given. Inspiration and motivation is natural to me though. Were you there when we took the enneagram? 3w2 was one of my closest matches (motivator). I'm used to being a motivator. Someone who challenges her (in good ways)? Sounds like you're challenging men to dreadgame you. Otherwise, how does this differ from motivating/inspiring? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 09:28 AM |
| 2 | Women and non-Reds - what do you suggest for the rising epidemic of unattractive men?Extreme betas need to be told what to do. That can still be masc (e.g. soldiers), but it depends too much on the leadership. The ones not being told will act like they have no certainty. Too wishy-washy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 09:01 AM |
| 3 | Women and non-Reds - what do you suggest for the rising epidemic of unattractive men?One beta to rule them all, one beta to find them; one beta to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 08:58 AM |
| 4 | Q4 Men I'll Never Meet: What do you have to offer me?Haha. I've done that before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:02 PM |
| 17 | Q4 Men I'll Never Meet: What do you have to offer me?I'm easy to get along with. I don't stress over small things vis-a-vis a partner. I take care of myself in every way, financially, physically, socially. The proof is all already there, so I'm not expecting women to have patience and wait for me to make it some day. It's gonna stay that way because I'm neurotic and hyperattentive about myself, so chances are that I'll notice if I'm gaining weight before the avg woman does. I'm not alpha though, so that might be a problem for some women. The main … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Why is it acceptable to shame older men for being attracted younger women?3 on my body Dirk Triad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:16 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Why do men say money doesn’t matter to them?Her money doesn't matter, but her attitude towards it could. If she wants me to buy her 30k USD handbags every year, because she won't work, that's a problem. If she's making 30k USD a year being a librarian and supporting herself and won't have unreasonable demands, that's not a problem. Men don't lose pride from having a low-earning wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 10:22 PM |
| 1 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryThis likely has to do with our different uses of the word "correlation". I'm using a slightly more technical version of correlation. Yours sounds more causative. I.e. BECAUSE most ppl dont change social (taste/values) class NOR economic (income) classes to a significant degree, the correlation is guaranteed. If i look at any random Joe's income, I could guess a few of his intra-class specific taste/lifestyle/values to some reasonable degree due to the correlation. Why? Because they're both relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 08:39 PM |
| 1 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryCorrelation of what? We've cooked up several here. Be specific. The correlation you originally brought up, between tastes/values and income/edu. The correlation doesn't suggest a strong, direct link between tastes/values and income alone. The fact that ppl aren't making significant economic class changes alone is enough to create correlation. One way to factor that out is by looking at the "exceptions". I know how tempting it can be to always dismiss "exceptions", but there's always nuance for w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Why is it acceptable to shame older men for being attracted younger women?so why do you care about nuking the place? This is what she wrote earlier: "put me in charge, ill nuke the whole middle east for you, ok?" If she was put in charge as a dictator, she's be making the rules, not breaking them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 07:21 PM |
| 1 | How do you maintain intimacy when someone becomes too important to lose?I am way too analytical/clinical about my flaws/weaknesses towards ppl who know me well for them to care in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 07:14 PM |
| 1 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryEducation/income come first. Then then the values/tastes. For a generalized argument, I'm not budging on this. If you want to argue that in analyzing whether two people are compatible in dating, you can dive straight into values/tastes, but I never argued against that. (I'd bet that a large divergence in tastes would often be correlated with high income disparity, though!) This is where the contention comes in though. The primary reason there's a correlation in the first place is because most pp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:14 PM |
| 1 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryIn fact, it's the tastes/values NOT shared between classes that are of interest, at least to me ??? That's EXACTLY what i'm referring to! Intra-class taste/values. Ones that are shared WITHIN the class, but not between the classes (those would be Inter). You're referring to same thing. You're referring to what I called "intra-class tastes/values" I have no idea what your point is at all, other than you trying to tell me I didn't mean what I said, when I know exactly what I said. This is how that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:15 AM |
| 1 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryYawn. Taxonomy... classification.. it's sociology which is a soft science. From reputable sources. I don't care what you want to call it, honestly. Do you just read sources and accept whatever people say without thinking critically because they're "reputable"? These are just models. Economic models aren't falsifiable. This is like me making stuff up and saying "I'm doing science", because I can call what I'm doing "hypothesizing". That's part of science, after all. It's just not scientific. If w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 05:34 AM |
| 2 | Different Experiences in Dating and Region/LocalityI'll say that one thing I'm not sure a lot of PPDers either realize or note (or possibly even agree with) is how deeply American PPD is, in our own little culture. How is it deeply American? I'm interested in reading this esp in the face of all the claims that foreigners are overrepresented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What Double Standards Could You Do Without?I was using colloquial definition: "a situation in which two people, groups, etc., are treated very differently from each other in a way that is unfair to one of them". I see now a lot of definitions put extra emphasis on moral value. a set of principles that applies differently and usually more rigorously to one group of people or circumstances than to another; especially : a code of morals that applies more severe standards of sexual behavior to women than to men You're probably right then. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What Double Standards Could You Do Without?I didn’t even know most people were talking about moral standards. Absolute and/or normative moral standards seems religious to me. I just assumed people were talking about nonmoral judgement. Eg assuming men and women have different strengths, tendencies, and preferences. If this thread is about moral standards then I’m completely with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What Double Standards Could You Do Without?You don’t have lower expectations for some people than others? Seems like just something you’d rationally do (without being autistic about it). I have lower expectations of women when it comes to pull-ups. That’s why I was so impressed that /u/popularpoplar could do more than 7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 09:17 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL What Double Standards Could You Do Without?Luckily for me I have double standards in my physical threat assessments of men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What Double Standards Could You Do Without?In the eyes of the govt sure. Individuals don’t have to. But perhaps we need to be clearer about what standards we are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What Double Standards Could You Do Without?Right. Because men and women are not the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 09:04 PM |
| 3 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryRight, where was that in the OP? Not my original point or intent. People aren't limited to responding to your original point. Your original point is not even science. It's taxonomy and classification. The only reason there's miscommunication at all is because most ppl here are talking about a more loosely defined "social class" that is relevant to PPD. You're insistent on only sticking to rigid "economic class" metrics. Your point about correlation precisely shows a flaw in your reasoning that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 06:56 PM |
| 3 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryHell, I didn't even mention correlation. What are you on about? Do you even understand when that's relevant? "You don't think there's a very big correlation between taste and income/education, which are also very highly correlated?" ~Merger-Arbitrage No I didn't. I said or implied that "rags to riches aka Poor/WC to UMC/UC" type moves are rare (until a good source shows otherwise). They are the small exception, not the rule. Ok, you protest that I should have written, "You mentioned alreadyin th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 06:15 PM |
| 3 | (Science) Actual Models of Social Class: A Brief SummaryCorrelation isn't causation. You mentioned already in this thread that people who climb classes and drop classes are the small minority. Of course it rarely happens. That's contributing to the high correlation between taste and income/education. The fact of the matter is that the few of us who have crossed castes (I am one of them) DON'T have our new caste's tastes. My family was undeniably LC. My nuclear family is now UMC and we've hit a barrier that won't allow us into the UC. It doesn't matte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4RPM- Do you consider yourselves experts on women’s lives? If so, why?I'm an expert on how women's lives are perceived by men. While I might not have complete accuracy on their intentions, I'm certainly accurate in generally describing feminine behaviours. Most men agree with me. Hell, most women agree with me. I'm reasonable enough anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 08:45 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do unattractive and feminine men have a chance?Most of this came from incelhaven and incelabode discords. They had a separate rape channel. I know you modded /r/incels which was relatively tame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Do unattractive and feminine men have a chance?It’s a fact that the stereotype exists. I’m not claiming All men are like that. I don’t see the issue of describing Type A incels as masculine. I don’t assign intrinsic moral value to masculinity. We can call them toxically or negatively masculine if you want. It doesnt matter to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogySuch as some of what you listed. I’ll reparse my sentence for you. What you wrote is decent but We are going to generalize it further. Social Stress Tests include more than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Are women in their 30s undesired as TRP make them out to be?True. I'll lower the number to the 30-35 range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyI would say almost everyone stress tests. I say this because I read MRP/RPW often talking about different subclasses of tests like comfort tests and compliance tests, which are slightly different from each other. I'm avoiding going into the details that distinguish them, because rpers themselves aren't as precise as I want them to be. I get over this problem by talking about the superclass of behaviours they all belong to, and labeling that. They're all normal stress tests which ppl just do to e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyNo. I do believe women have advantages when it comes to stress testing in general. A major one is stereotypically superior emotional memory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyYou're likely right. Which is why I think it's more productive to explain how "shit tests" fit under a larger framework/model. One that explains what are a natural and common social interactions. It's sort of like how some rpers are describing shit tests as flirting, making it more specific. too specific and ignoring the more malicious "passive-aggressive, pressuring" subset of shit tests. I contend that it can be generalized further, instead of specified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyIn that case, most ppl would say he was the one initiating the interaction. He'd be the provoker/stress tester and she'd be the responder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas Analogythere are no separate class of behaviors that function specifically to provoke a reaction. See my response to her too. You're talking about intent. A lot of social phenomenon dont occur with intent from the initiator. E.g. Slights. And while we are constantly judged, some events are more significant/notable than others. Some reactions stick out in memory longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:58 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: Do unattractive and feminine men have a chance?Yes, psychopathy is more common in males and also stereotypically associated with masculinity. Negative masculinity (e.g. "toxic masculinity"). Much of masculinity is based on social construct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas Analogyyes, along with actions that provoke those very behaviours being judged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do unattractive and feminine men have a chance?I went ahead and assumed OP was distinguishing attractiveness from feminine by focusing on "physical attractiveness". Feminine means in terms of character or behaviour. The "masculine-looking" you're talking about is "physically attractive" enough even if not pretty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyIt could be depending on who we're talking to. It's not precisely defined enough. What I am saying though is that "shit tests" fall under a superclass of behaviours I call "social stress tests", which are natural to do, for both men and women. I'd only argue women do this more often because women are more social and socially adept in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyBut what exactly is the difference between subconscious testing and just responding to my environment and learning from it? I forgot to answer your original question. My personal take on it: It's extremely subjective much like other social phenomenon. E.g. "slights". Different ppl will interpret events in their own way. Bob might assume ppl who directly insult him are just joking. Joe might assume anything said or done to him is a slight. AFAIK, there's no objective set of metrics to determine u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyYes. That's right. Not all of them are intentionally trying to put men in uncomfortable situations. That's the analogy too. Alice isn't trying to break her presents. She likely isn't doing what she's doing with the intention of judging the gifters either. If a woman does something and the man reacts poorly, she will think she fucked up. Not him. Yes, because most women are even lower confidence and more self-conscious than men, in my xp. However, you're seeing this from the woman's perspective. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyIt's a test. It's not a "stress test". Under my model, "Tests" are a superclass of behaviours (including questions) that include "stress tests". Stress tests include further subclasses like shit tests, compliance tests, comfort tests, etc. Stress tests aren't mundane. The testee is pressured by them. Obviously, there's a lot of subjectivity to this. I wouldn't call handshaking (an example I gave to /u/goatismycopilot here to demonstrate a point) a serious stress test personally, but it can seem … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyI was responding to your point. here: you weren't trying to get any information about the guy, even unconsciously. You were acting according to social norms in order to demonstrate that you are a cool fun person. That's how people operate. They only think about themselves and how they appear to others. If the arm punched guy reacts poorly most people will even think they are the ones that fucked up, not him. Two people on a date are trying to get more information about each other. Two people eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyDepends on whether you like bath salts or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyYou're mostly right, but there's room for ambiguity. On a date or while flirting both parties are trying to get information about the other person. During even a longer term relationship, ppl are trying to suss each other out and test the waters before marriage. While out with friends, you're also trying to get to know each other better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyNot because of some 'test' we create, but because every action we do says something about us Yes. We know that. It's still fine to call it a test, because it can be seen that way from the person who feels "tested". It's a constant thing, but there are certain nigh-discrete/noteworthy interactions, responses from the tested that warrant more attention than the noise. Personally, I thinks reds have a tendency towards neuroticism. I believe the same. A lot of the less productive arguments on ppd ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyIt's called a test because it's a test from his point of view. It's a test he failed. From my perspective, I see interviews as just opportunities to meet potential candidates. I see 1-on-1 meetings with workers as updates on progress. It's not consciously recognized as a test from my end, even when most ppl would consider it to be one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyYeah that definitely happens between some guys. What I'm describing is distinct from that though. It's not a deliberate attempt to compete. Two men trust each other and are just being friendly. The judgment isn't the intent. It's an unintentional, inevitable consequence for some ppl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyIs this all? "I'd only argue that shit testing is more common from women because women are generally more social." You got me there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyTry to be more charitable here. Imagine more a friendly pat on the back that might seem a bit too rough. If I do that to my brother, I trust that if I went too hard he'd tell me in a normal manner, "Ow, shit, dude. That actually hurt." If he overreacted, ofc I'd question things. Not just my own strength, but perhaps his irritability. A more common example: a firm handshake. It's not MALICIOUS. We trust each other to be normal, but if someone gives me a weak handshake, I can't help but judge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyThat doesn't fit the specific female behaviour towards their partners under a larger framework. Male jostling and other types of "stress tests" exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyYes. Read down farther. I never called it a "curious girl thing". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 08:58 PM |
| 7 | Are women in their 30s undesired as TRP make them out to be?Women in their 40s are not as desired for the marriage market, due to infertility. There are too many males who believe marriage's main purpose is for kids. Remove them from the equation, and the demand for such women drops. If she's one of the minority of women who stay hot into their 40s, then there's no issue for the sexual market place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 07:15 PM |
| 10 | Q4ALL: Do unattractive and feminine men have a chance?Unattractive masculine men don't stand a chance either. At a certain point, the unattractiveness is too much. Among incels are two types that rarely cross. There are the Type A who are masculine and dominant in "character" and there are the Type B who are feminine and submissive in "character". I explain this more in depth here. You'd know what I'm talking about if you had the chance to read and get reports on their subreddits and discord. The Type A's are violent in thought. They hate happy cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What roles do (1) wealth and (2) social class play in the SMP, RMP, MMP?I'd even extend it. Every civilization. Even communist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 07:44 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What roles do (1) wealth and (2) social class play in the SMP, RMP, MMP?I give that example all the time as one of the defining features for me between UC estates and UMC mcstates. My latest McMansion? Large. As large as many mansions. But it was built on ex-agricultural/recent rezoned residential (I can see dozens of cows after a 5 minute walk), not old residential zoning. There are no golf courses within half a mile. The houses on my neighbourhood are actually build of templated designs. Like 4-5 floor plans at most. Nothing about it is customized/tailored to my p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 07:22 AM |
| 5 | CMV: For Men who care about screening a woman's RMV and loyalty, nexting daughters of divorced parents is AT LEAST as important as nexting based on N countI watched a similar documentary about a young boy protecting a toy store from burglars. Not even his own home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/17 06:39 PM |
| 5 | CMV: For Men who care about screening a woman's RMV and loyalty, nexting daughters of divorced parents is AT LEAST as important as nexting based on N countShe doesn't actually say that. She is attacking the legitimacy of the blog. The divorce attorney's blog does actually repeat the information: 72. According to Nicholas Wolfinger in “Understanding the Divorce Cycle”, the risk of divorce is 50 percent higher when one spouse comes from a divorced home and 200 percent higher when both partners do. Whether that info is trustworthy or not is another matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/17 05:58 PM |
| 6 | Can women control their biological urges the way men can?As for your title, it depends on your metric. If I look at the SMP it certainly doesn't look like men are controlling their "biological urges". The very fact that men demand sex more and skews the SMP to give women more market value shows that. You'd think that if men controlled their sexual urges that well then men as a collective would have both higher SMV and higher RMV. Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 10:19 PM |
| 9 | Can women control their biological urges the way men can?Would they fuck slutty 10/10 Sylvia who once got gang banged by a whole football team and whose ego is larger than planet earth? Yeah, probably. Would they marry her? Yes they would. Are you kidding me, lmao No not just chumps. In fact, I've heard this a lot over my lifetime: men usually prefer having a cute next-door type kind of girl as a life-partner instead of some high maintenance model. Yeah, maybe. The problem is that women will never see that. The fact of the matter is that women who fuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Freaky Friday: Question for Red Pill men only: Imagine if you woke up tomorrow and you were female. What changes would you make to the world you live in?I'm not sure what the intention of the question was then, if everyone has my same pipe dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/17 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Freaky Friday: Question for Red Pill men only: Imagine if you woke up tomorrow and you were female. What changes would you make to the world you live in?However now you are female and living in the world, that is exactly the way it is now. With the exact same brain I have now? How do you want the world to change? With me comfortably near the top. 100 billion dollars, a private island with endless toys, guns, and 50+ women who owe their lives to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/17 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindSern's /u/SirNemesis on reddit, he won't see you referencing that troll account. Read the account you linked, she's making fun of indians and chinese at the same time. lol Anyway, Sern's been rockclimbing so he's strong enough to beat you as badly physically in strength as he beat you in chess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 05:48 AM |
| 3 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindThat's what I normally do. Global scope, I am BBB and gave the reasoning for it. I submit to reason, faith, and power. I'm "other-oriented" and enjoy doing things for family/friends. I'd guess that most people are BBx. If the scope is localized to most of my social circles ("civilized/westernized" family and/or friends who aren't assholes), I am relatively AAB. I am more xAx compared to most of my friends, as in behaviourally dom. I talk over them and insist on being right, because I am. The poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 06:37 PM |
| 4 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindThe only reason I'd drop the relative angle is because people aren't able to process complexity as easily. You're smart though, so you shouldn't have problems. If I call you a "strong candidate" to /u/SirNemesis, do you think he has any trouble understanding me? He knows I'm certainly not talking about physical strength. He can guess I'm talking about your stemming. He also automatically adjusts for relativity. I.e. He knows I'm not saying you're the strongest candidate in the USA. You're "relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 06:18 PM |
| 3 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindRight. The status axis is a supercategory of many standards. This can make it seem subjective. This is not just acategorization tool, but a way to get people to think about context and meaning of words. Drawing on the comparison to normative ethics... If you think about it, consequentialist ethics is also a broad category of ethics. It includes utilitarianism... but what are we judging as "utility"? There are the eudaemonic set of ethics (ones that judge value generated as "making as many people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindAlso, just throwing this out there, but do you really think chores are inherently beta? No. No action is inherently beta or other-serving. It's "wanting to do things for someone else" that is beta/other-serving in character. It's "submitting to fear and obeying or supplicating" that is beta/feminine in behaviour. Bob's actions are more supplicating than Joe's, and actions speak louder than anything. I get your point. One of them is never working for himself. So over all, he'll more likely to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 05:49 PM |
| 4 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindYou don’t have to use all them at the same time. You don’t take full inventory of your acquaintances. Most people will just give them superficial labels while understanding the context, in a non-autistic way. If I tell you our mutual acquaintance, Jane the scrawny, poor girl, is “strong”, you immediately understand I’m not talking about some observable state (wealth, strength, caste, whatever). You assume I am saying she is strong in personality, strong willed, or something else. You automatical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindOn a global scale, it’s the top that get noticed and seen as the ideal. I brought up IT to contrast reputational status with economic. IT lawyer get paid a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 05:38 AM |
| 3 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindThis isn’t meant to just categorize people. It’s to remind that words/labels have different meanings in different contexts. You’re reasonable and should get that after this When I say “My friend Janette is a strong woman” most of my male friends would guess I am talking about her behaviour , something about her personality, not her physical strength. They easily get contextual cues. “Strong” is every bit as contextual as the word/label “dom” or “alpha” or other terms we use. It also has a state … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 05:34 AM |
| 3 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindFighting rules and snapping at bullies, challenging ppl or institutions is behaviourally A/Dom. I don't know how else you behave, but what you described only makes me more certain. That’s xAx, exactly where the ideal you belongs. “Unselfish intentions”/other-orientation is xxB. Serving/Helping others, “the public good”, or whatever other spooks. Look at my example with Bob, with virtuous character. As for the status axis, you’re Axx or Bxx depending on scope/environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindI actually had you in mind as an aspirational model. Part of why you said you chose you career was public good. You’re fighting corps for what you think is better for others, at cost to yourself. there are other words without negative connotations that you can use for it: benevolent, altruistic, unselfish, or as I put it in the op once “other-oriented”. That’s some kind of xxB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindYes it depends on the scope. On a global scale I would not put lawyers and solider on top. lawyers tend to be high value in most ordinary contexts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:33 AM |
| 2 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindIt’s a spectrum, not a binary. Allen might not be an icon of masculinity but he’s masc compared to his friends. It depends on the scope. The examples I went though you’re gonna have to do a bit of intuiting on what the scopes are. The crusader king is AAB on a global scale. Also, the point of this wasn’t to say I was right. The other two were right using a different standard of “submissiveness”. Joe was submissive in behaviour. Bob is submissive using some kind of character-driven standard. They… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 04:31 AM |
| 2 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindThey are very Bxx in general and just happen to be the “most” B. People who just lose are Heavily B and you can pick them out from any of the Bxx categories. Eg a friendless unemployed cuck who truly enjoys seeing his wife fucked by other men because he’s such a giving person is BAB like Bob. “Generous”, and completely uninhibited about it. He just happens to have very unpopular/negatively-viewed, low status behaviours and mentality. The Omega is always used to mean just “loser” and usually just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 02:06 AM |
| 2 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindStatus is relative. The lowest ranking soldiers don’t have power over anyone in the military, and they are the plurality. Lawyers are doing better than average sure. I don’t consider them alpha status though. Only the ones working in places like Skadden or as IT lawyers in-house and are high flyIng id consider close to the top and prestigious. But again it’s relative. I’m welcome to better examples you can provide. I’ll add them to the list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 01:10 AM |
| 6 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindI am trying to use extreme examples to demonstrate the idea. The problem with your example is that it's not obvious. As I said, context and relativity certainly play a role. Within their "spheres of influence" they'll be AAA. They're NOT incompetent and powerless, because you know them. Hell, your father could be aAA (small 'a') for all I know. Extremely strong and powerful. I don't know, that's why I can't just throw your father in as the ultimate/extreme example. The farther outside we move fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 12:40 AM |
| 3 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindIt's not a strawman of your position. I didn't even know it was your own position. I only read you repeat it once. It's something I heard over the years multiple times. It's fine, and perfectly logical, it's just not going to be useful and complete. A more comprehensive model will help ppl understand and move through convos more efficiently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 12:36 AM |
| 7 | Normalizing Standards (status-behaviour-character) - More theory of mindThere may be more ways to improve/factorize the model, but based on what I've already done, you can clearly see how semantic disputes can arrise so often on ppd when ppl are using simpler-minded models (single axis, e.g. mentality ALONE, or status ALONE). One of the worst offenders is the status axis model involving male n-count/promiscuity status. "What's an alpha?" "Someone who gets a lot of sex." "But the context of discussion is over how alphas are more sexually attractive, so that's a given… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normYou didn't read my comment or didn't understand it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 11:49 PM |
| 2 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normI appreciate that a lot. I noticed that when a lot of prole engineers start to chill about their money and stop being so prole-minded, they start to be a lot more fun (with their time and money). The problem is a lot of them are just hyper focused. Once they see a problem they tackle it pretty quickly though. Most aren’t as spergish as what we see on reddit. Welcome to the best coast btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 09:32 PM |
| 3 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normEngineering isn’t the only masculine field that’s difficult to automate though. I listed just a few of many that will be difficult to automate, like truck driving (or hell ubering), Hvac, yard work, etc. I was actually talking about manual labour being more difficult to automate than people give it credit. But yes that’s a great addition you bring up. A lot of creative and/or g loaded stem work will be difficult automate away. And yes he guys going into it that I see arent all stereotypical BBT … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normI am not disputing his idea that men might start killing themselves at a higher rate in the near future. I am disputing the claim that automation is what’s going to drive men out of the workforce , any more than it does women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 09:15 PM |
| 29 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normI have a huge bone to pick with the manosphere about automation. In the long run, who knows what will happen with technology. In the short term I contest most predictions about the obsoletion of physical manpower. A few major points: Technology has always been making low level labour obsolete. As economics evolve from underdeveloped (most of labour in agriculture) to developing (most of labour in manufacturing) to developed (most in services), technology and industrialization was pushing the cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 07:21 AM |
| 28 | Q4RP: How do you respond to the fact that more US men are "marrying up" than women, according to a new study? What about "female hypergamy?"First off, hypergamy formally means marrying up, socioeconomically. TRP and PPD tend to use it to mean whatever the fuck they want, colloquially/informally. That's fine and all. It can be used contextually (like "alpha beta" gets used contextually) but you have to at least be AWARE of the context at least. The first source is talking about educational hypergamy. It's obvious that women will be marrying down more frequently in terms of degrees as more women are graduating from college than men. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 01:26 AM |
| 12 | CMV: Women, even "good girls," look down upon guys they perceive as being sheltered/less experienced with the world than themselvesI've rarely if ever had a woman that didn't compromise her position a bit once she could fully see the abstract models in my mind. Men have a lot more ego. Women are submissive. Men are much less so. Some of the more masculine men dont even submit to reason and logic. You're forced to threaten or overpower them. I know who you're talking about, but those are more matriarchal/dom type women and they're not the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 12:46 AM |
| 7 | Q4RP: Is this an example of "alpha male" behavior?He's a big dude who obviously lifts, Alpha status (physicality) has no problem shouting at and disrespecting women in public Alpha behaviour (not inhibited by shame or guilt) is aggressive, and stands up for himself. Alpha behaviour (not inhibited by fear) I don’t know much about his status besides that he looks strong enough. He’s behaviourally alpha. Don’t be confused by people saying “alphas just get a lot of sex that’s all!” That’s just what people claim is a consequence/correlation of being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:43 PM |
| 5 | In the wake of all the porn threads: what do we think of data showing women are more likely to search out violent porn and have rape fantasies?However, in the gay porn condition, the homophobic men became more erect. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pop-psych/201507/examining-arousal-and-homophobia) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Alphas are childrenThat's much better and more agreeable. I think your criticism's is much stronger than Taipan's as it deals with his model directly. However, I would say that what you're describing skirts the edge of "behaviour" and "ability". I do think high intelligence ("ability" to pattern match and see farther) correlates to more future time orientation, but that's generally beta in terms of appearance. The problem with accepting this "consideration" as alpha is that all of it will appear inhibited to me in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:06 PM |
| 4 | Alphas are childrenI agree. The ones who just stop at "women like alphas" (while remaining ambiguous to their audience) are just poor at communication. It's as stupid as saying, "women like strong men". Strong what? Strong in character? Strong and forceful in actions/behaviour? Strong willed? Strong as in politically strong? There has to be a context. And yet, when it comes to alpha and beta, people lose half their brains and can't see past ONE SINGLE model. We have ppl in this thread doing that right now. In u/no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:00 PM |
| 5 | Alphas are childrenyeah and you have fun being stubborn and staying uncommunicative. Not my loss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:57 PM |
| 7 | Alphas are children"disagreeing" with his definition makes as much sense as saying "I disagree with what you mean by 'top male'". Alpha is a contextual term. He's clearly talking about a behavioural alpha (Why do you think Al Gore, someone who DID have status, was called a beta male? Why do you think some people even called obama "beta"?). You're talking about an ethological one. Part of intelligence is being able to see different models, different systems. Not blindly stick to one. You would be foolish to tell in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Alphas are childrenAggressive/assertive, decisive/purposeful, and considerate. The others are fine. "Considerate" is more beta. It's a self-inhibition unless we go for mind-reading. There's no difference to me, in terms of behaviour, between someone who self-inhibits because of fear and someone who self-inhibits because he's considerate and has high FTO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:51 PM |
| 10 | Alphas are childrenIt's not a strawman, you just don't see his model. If anything you're insisting on using your own model and don't care to communicate/argue. The way you're headed is a pointless semantic dispute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:47 PM |
| 11 | Alphas are childrenThe problem is that alpha is a contextual term like "top" or "highest ranking". It's meaningless without context. Top what? Highest ranking person of what hierarchy? In the context of PPD, we are generally talking about two applications of "alpha". Either in one's "state of being" (social status, strength, looks, money, power, etc), or "behaviour" (how uninhibited one is; how he behaves as though he were top). Unfortunately, a lot of people are slow and dont know how to read context and need to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:44 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on this bluepill-esque "be yourself" advice given in recent an askreddit thread?Not at all. Living in SV can be a 1 to 1.5 hr commute in to SF, one way. It's 3 hrs a day wasted on commute alone. And for what? High rent cost to live in a boring, family friendly place like SV when I could just be living nearer to SF, a singles market. I could be living in the peninsula or oakland. If I worked in SV, I could SEE myself being a single living in SF though. But the commute is still going to suck, and I'd still rather live in the rest of the peninsula where I'm not paying a premiu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 07:05 AM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on this bluepill-esque "be yourself" advice given in recent an askreddit thread?I KNEW something was off. Yes, it's expensive to live in SF, but SF is not SV. I don't understand why people conflate the two. No one in tech confuses them though. SF and the rest of the peninsula is where singles are. That's where schools are shittier because it's a place for singles, not families. The peninsula has a ton of 7, 8, and 9s for schools. Silicon Valley is mostly South Bay, full of families who want good schools. The schools are 10s all over. It doesn't make sense for single women t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 06:53 AM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on this bluepill-esque "be yourself" advice given in recent an askreddit thread?/u/SirNemesis and I would like to know where all these "single young women" are living in or near Silicon Valley. East Palo Alto? Where? It's an expensive area, and I doubt they as SINGLE WOMEN are buying homes. Even rent is high. Even I dont live in SV, I just work here. It's also mostly tech companies. Single young women are a minority here. What clubs do they go to? Are you talking about SF? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 06:47 AM |
| 3 | Question for everyone: How do you feel about a man being the king of his castle?That being the case, it would also contributes to aversion to hypogamy, as they assume that lower classes are more abusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/17 01:44 AM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas AreYes, that's my point. People aren't pure alpha or beta. I was talking about traits. Beta traits become much more important to most people in terms of status climbing in stable civilizations, I agree. And/or behaviours. Submission to a master, and never outshining him, or at least having some measured approach/self-restraint... is beta (self inhibited behaviour) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/17 05:40 PM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas AreI'm not talking about people. REAL people are generally a mix of alpha and beta. A hypothetical pure alpha is either going to rule the world or get himself shot/imprisoned quickly. What would you call "self control, FTO, and willingness to work under a 'master' to achieve long term goals"? More alpha (low self inhibition) or more beta (self inhibition)? The OP is right. For most people to climb the social ladder, they need beta characteristics (self inhibitions). It won't LOOK tough, challenging… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/17 03:36 AM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas AreI'm not talking about people. I'm talking about characteristics. Self control and willingness to work under a "master" is beta characteristic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/17 03:34 AM |
| 1 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.GL on those interviews. I get what you're saying, but I am personally, at this point, mostly resigned to type 1 interest (in the list, mostly descriptive). Advice-giving (type 2) and words of encouragement (positive type 3) reserved for ppl I know personally, like friends and family. So I don't know and care much what direction the mods and ECs take the subreddit. Even if I did, it's fine if they keep their primary purpose separate from MRM. I doubt the MRM wants to be tightly coupled to TRP sub… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:44 AM |
| 2 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.OP's just doing an AMA, whether it's true or not. It doesn't look like he's asking for support. I agree with what you say though. WestsideMoonWalker was making a point about rp hypocrisy but I dont think many here would respond any different if this was gender flipped. That would be consistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:44 AM |
| 2 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.I know you've been around forever. Good to see you back btw. I know you see complaints, but I think you're misinterpreting their purpose. They're generally more geared towards building anger/hype. They're type 3 (mentality-driven) posts. My thoughts are here. The messages are often "Society doesn't care about us men, so we need to toughen up and look out for ourselves." That's been one of the unifying themes in that subreddit. It's not meant to be a replacement for MRM. The fact that there is ov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:37 AM |
| 3 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.This thread should put the idea that TRP supports male assault victims to rest. The subreddit supports male assault victims? Really? That would be news to me. It had an MRA tag, but they were mainly posts on why men should be mad and why you should only rely on self (because no one will pity you, so on and so forth). Supporting male victims has more to do with MRA subreddit, and they have resources there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:23 AM |
| 2 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.Oh, just penis, not including other foreign objects? I guess that would still be some kind of sexual battery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:14 AM |
| 3 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.Assuming this is real (and this occurred in NZ, correct?), how are NZ's laws wrt "made to penetrate" and rape? How about your specific case with you as an active participant. Even as a matter of technicality. I doubt it's exactly the same as US law, but I'm sure there must be similarities we could look at, what with both countries being anglospherean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:06 AM |
| 1 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.No to both. I was responding to "r/ccj2 YO." You edited your comment and added more to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 11:01 AM |
| 3 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.I like the ones that make you put effort into guessing. They're obvious enough to a few of us, but not everyone. You remember Essex, dude? Higher effort troll. I miss that guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 10:59 AM |
| 1 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.lol, yeah... man, how rainy's mutated over the years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 10:57 AM |
| 1 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.Ah you don't believe me. Right, I definitely don't. esp now. LMBO is an /r/china expat meme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 10:50 AM |
| 3 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.That's fine. In any case, I'm not sure how NZ law works wrt intent and rape. It doesn't look like you gave her any reason to think you weren't an active participant in sex. Have you talked to a lawyer about it? Oh btw, 布香姓... What do you think I'm trying to say to you? Guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 10:48 AM |
| 6 | The story of how I ended up getting raped by my ex-girlfriend.This reads like a gender inverted parody of rape stories that manosphereans ridicule. It's so comprehensive. You never explicitly told your ex you two were over (leaving room to doubt whether she was "crazy" or not for still calling your her boyfriend). You also cheated on your ex, kept your dates with your current gf from her before you had broken up with her. You keep repeating that you should have broken up with ex, but never did. There's only one hint of it: "but it culminated with me going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 10:25 AM |
| 8 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas AreBeta traits become much more important to most people in terms of status climbing in stable civilizations, I agree. Rpers don't deny it. The 48 Laws of Power that many rpers read is basically a beta bible. The very first law is "Never outshine the master". OBVIOUSLY beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Women being less happy despite women's rights doesn't mean muchThat’s not the norm to me. Most of them would rather suffer that than be the family with a homeless child, so it’s partially on the child to get over his/her own shame. And I’m talking about spending more time with the family without making a huge fuss of it. It’s not out of place if say they live within a few blocks. That being said my aunt uses every excuse to spend half the year with her family across her country away from her husband (whom she married to support family) because he ugly, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Women being less happy despite women's rights doesn't mean muchAh, minority ethnicities. Sure. I'm more familiar with east asian and anglos, who would generally take the girls back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 08:04 AM |
| 11 | In theory, equal opportunities for women is a good idea, but in practice, it isn'tIt's 10% schadenfreude, 20% thrill, 15% concentrated power of pill; 5% interest, 50% vain, and 100% reason to remember the name | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 07:57 AM |
| 2 | Women being less happy despite women's rights doesn't mean muchI posit that the modern modular life isolates women and thus exposes women to more risks and more costs than financial dependence. Isolation (from social circle, esp her parents) makes her far more dependent on her male partner. It's generally the case that women end up moving for their boyfriends'/husbands' than the reverse. Besides that the erosion of the traditional, large, tight American family will further isolate women, give them a smaller core/familial safety net. (E.g. If I had a sister … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 07:44 AM |
| 4 | Women being less happy despite women's rights doesn't mean muchNeither "women's happiness" nor "women's rights" means much. They have subjective value depending on whom we are talking to. You value rights/freedoms. Someone else might only value equality. Someone else values happiness and ease of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Does my version of the perfect girl exist?All of the above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Does my version of the perfect girl exist?Nah. I gave him an estimate for his criteria which should suit him. It's 0.001%. He doesn't need to verify that number. It should help him readjust his standards, especially this one: "Someone that doesn't define you by your interests or judge you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Does my version of the perfect girl exist?0.001% of women fit your description. All of them are mentally damaged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:47 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Does my version of the perfect girl exist?This is why Aladdin couldn't demand nice things. Becoming a rich SOB is easier than finding a woman that will keep tolerating your degenerate sissy porn and ever-expanding waist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:46 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRRight. So now you understand their position. It's a difference in personality that's causing this misunderstanding you have with them. They don't personally see a friend as having less value to themselves than a toaster. They just don't accept "objective" value that something like sentience brings. When ppl refuse to answer where their values come from, it's reasonable to assume they learned those values from the culture (i believe atlasb assume xtianity for westerners). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:31 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRHumans around me have more value to me personally than a toaster. That's subjective. But there's no inherent value in sentience. Atheists define the value in sentience in many ways to me. Complexity of thought, value to "society", whatever. But they are never consistent or complete. Do you have a way of your own to explain why sentience makes an object (matter/energy and their processes)? Without "souls" or some divine authority, I don't believe they have objective inherent value. Absolute inher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRDoes sentience give an object innate value? Something metaphysical? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRIt looks as though Atlas is on a witch Christian? hunt. I can assure you she's not. AFAIK she may be atheistic but she respects xtians. She's questioning other atheists, not xtians. The definition of sentience seldom brings up the topic of Divinity. Yes, and I question that myself. Why atheists bring up sentience as a way to replace the soul. Why is cannibalism special (why is eating any other animal better)? Is it because it's part of evolved disgust? (Your "internal barometer", as you put it.)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 12:04 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRYes sentience is an abstraction and that may be why Atlas rejects it, and has said as much in an earlier post. ... Maybe that's why Atlas brings up reification. I've talked to her for years on this. Her main problem here is that she is introverted in an idiosyncratic way. IMO, I care way more about reaching mutual understanding (not necessarily agreement). I'm certain she has a similar view to what I just described. She doesn't accept sentience as having inherent divine value beyond the physical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRSure. Btw, using basic philosophy, which branch of normative ethics are you primarily focused on, when telling us that cannibalism is morally wrong? Also, even this being the case, the original point stands that whatever abstractions you believe are stopping people from cannibalizing each other, they're abstractions of real, physical things/processes. If we say there's a mystical force that will punish an atheistic version of me or stop me from cannibilizing others besides my own brain, then tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:41 PM |
| 1 | /r/Incels has been banned...:thumbs_up: for false precision. I get what you're saying though. "Very slightly above avg". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRI don't believe that all people would resort to it even out of desperation, some have an internal compass that makes them not want to go there. Sure, many people won't resort to cannibalism. Most people have irrational faiths that they never seem to question or explore. Atlasb calls them crypto christians. I don't call them that, but they internalize the ethics taught to them by culture. That, and or there may be biological disgust-driven behaviour. After all, animals are "disgusted" or avoid ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRSo why are you rejecting sentience? I am not rejecting sentience. I don't think Atlasb is even doing that. Sentience is an abstraction of some brain activity. PHYSICAL activity, in the brain. It's still matter and energy, but an abstraction of the processes going on. Why would you think cannibalism is cultural rather than rejected for being a revolting idea alone. It's revolting in the same sense that someone who eats shit is revolting, but without metaphysics (esp divinely given standards of mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRCompassion and altruism are NOT metaphysical! You're right. It's based on physical properties. It depends on our brain. The brain is matter. It's still all grounded in the physical world. Some people have less compassion and altruism than others because of differences in their brains. Ok = abstract deciding a country's borders and reification = putting up the fence posts where they'd be. No. Reification is when you give physical properties to abstractions without justification. It's often a logi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:03 PM |
| 1 | /r/Incels has been banned...5.3/10 guy here. With what model are you using to estimate with that level of precision? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRWhat then would stop all people in theory from becoming cannibals? What do you think? You're the one implying something metaphysical but avoiding explaining. We have an experience that is non material in nature, call it altruism just for a start, then morality even though you don't like abstractions they serve a purpose. Yes, abstractions do serve purposes, but you're talking about a very specific type of abstraction. A reification. Do you know the difference between a reification and any other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 10:56 PM |
| 6 | /r/Incels has been banned...Welcome back. We missed you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 06:37 AM |
| 9 | /r/Incels has been banned...I don't like it. I'd prefer their get their own subreddit. Frankly, I found them funnier than TRP too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 05:44 AM |
| 4 | Q4RP - Will the acceptance of transwomen correct what you believe is wrong with the SMP?Strangely enough the guys at the red pill don't seem to realize this and instead promote bigotry against transwomen, along with all their racism. But they do seem to have come along with the acceptance of homosexuality so perhaps over time even the terps will drop their bigotry against transwomen. Maybe some of them outright hate trans but I’ve learned to distrust others’ judgement. There’s no detachment from most ppl. I don’t believe transwomen are female. I don’t think they look or even act fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 02:06 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you have any female friends?More than most people. Including women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 06:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: red pillers share the same narrow middle class white western values as blue pillersYes exactly. Tell the OP that you are blue and don’t believe in the SMP. He’s the one who doesn’t understand this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 06:01 AM |
| 2 | CMV: red pillers share the same narrow middle class white western values as blue pillersWhy don’t you ask her if she’s blue and feminist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 06:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: red pillers share the same narrow middle class white western values as blue pillersThey view it as free choice, they don’t accept the model that compares them to consumers. Don’t get sly with me. You’re arguing with a bper right now. She’s your top responder currently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 02:18 AM |
| 3 | CMV: red pillers share the same narrow middle class white western values as blue pillersyou both frictionlessly accept that sex is a marketplace You weren’t one of the ones that’s argued with bpers even over the over the very existence of an SMP for the past four years. Even now there is still remnants of friction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 01:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: RPers are lovesick addicts and diluted sex is their methadoneBeing a praxeology somewhat preempts it from being an ideology. Praxeologies can still involve theories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/17 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Dominance HierarchiesI share about 50-60% of my DNA with a banana. His point is that people keep bringing up that number (or the 99.9% with another human one) but it says nothing about how much of that similarity is observable in behaviours. Most of it is unrelated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 04:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A woman's entire sexual history is relevant, whether assessing for sex or for relationshipsThe sluts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 05:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "The Wall" hits women at 50."Attractiveness" is subjective and not SMV. That being said, I disagree with the graph as it should be RMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Dissecting the Schools of RPYour concerns are partially why I'm developing theories of mind for ppd here and likely in future by creating models or taxonomies of rp. We can look more closely and label the exact rpers who say "rp works". These are likely those talking about Type 2. Are these the exact same individuals saying "it's just descriptive"? This leads me to believe that the descriptions are more than just descriptions. The article "The Oldest Teenager in The House", again I may be reading into this incorrectly, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 07:41 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceShe won't. She's a perfect example of women who are capable of going to software but don't. The IQ bar isn't that high to get in. Hell, her brother is a very competent one, and she's clever enough herself. When given a choice women stay away from tech. Does anyone here truly think that people in poorer third or second world countries think their men are less sexist in tech companies than those in the USA? Of course not, and yet they still flood into tech. OP's implied point is laughable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Dissecting the Schools of RPI call them schools, because it tries to systematize content creation. Some people are more interested in posts coming from Type 3 preachers, rather than being preachers themselves, and those people are going to be harder to categorize in the first place. It doesn't describe passive parties as well (though it can describe what they tend to consume), but it can help us understand and label active rp content creators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 07:25 PM |
| 2 | Dissecting the Schools of RPSchools are for both teachers and students. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Dissecting the Schools of RPThat's hard to say. Sometimes mentality can come from behaviour. I was often moodier when I was younger. More than once, I remember being shocked at how quickly my mood changed after a jog. A better sleep schedule could also change my mentality. Often, a change in environment could change my character. A Type 1 might say that mentality and behaviour come from your State of being. That's just how things are. I.e. People born into power with good genetics will be treated well. They'll naturally be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Dissecting the Schools of RPThat's true. I get what you're saying. That some black pillers want other people to feel as miserable as they are. I remember an IncelHaven forum where incels were talking about how they want other people to suffer and feel as miserable as they are. It's a viral mentality. It's "negative type 3", kind of like how Type 1 can be negative and positive. They can describe the world positively and negatively, as a result of their mentality. I didn't include it because that falls more under "black pill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 06:47 AM |
| 8 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceLess interest because less prestige. It's very prole work. People have the mentality of OP. He puts up these posts about how nerdy STEM is, how sexist it is, how beta it is. The last time he put up one of these threads, he argued with me that tech execs dont count as STEM (plurality of CEOs come from engineering background). Ppl outside the industry have an easier time seeing from his misguided views. Women care about this prestige. They have no problems doing law, medicine, and other profession… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceYou believe her nonsense? That's it. You. Me. 1v1 let's go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 09:59 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceSexism is over-estimated as a cause of women staying away from the software industry. It doesn't have the same level of prestige as other professions outside of tech hubs, esp yours. Feminists need to start supporting more immigration/visa control, because that has much more to do with keeping women out of larger tech companies, which are the ones that are more likely to hire women. They end up getting their share of women (and men too, ofc) from foreign countries (often poaching from service fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceIt's not 5-0? It's 12-0. Reread my post. Stop lying Fiat!!! You have such bad memory smh. What? You need to re-read my post. "Then it became 5-0. Now it's 12-0." My memory is so good that it's retroactive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceBut yeah i just think it's like a really boring thing to do.. Yes. That's exactly it. That's one of the reasons why there are less women. Why would competent higher class women WANT to do go into software industry? Why do they need to make more money? You're a great example. You're all set. You have a competent bf, competent, wealthy family, you don't need to do software. It's boring and takes too much time from stuff you actually care about like family, religion, whatever. That's why ppl in aff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Women in computer science*flips table* THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. It was 2-1, and then you made it 1-1. Then it became 5-0. Now it's 12-0. One day it'll be a 100-0 and you're Elo 3000+. I don't know why you're doing this! Maybe it's to get me to admit I lost to you at least once, but I'm already honest enough to admit that without your schemes and reverse psychology! Philosophy is a g-loaded major, and you're probably smarter than the majority of CS ppl. Still 100 times better than most of the SJWs whining about being intimid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceMaybe. Why don't you come join and/or compete with us in the software industry? I can help with your resume and recommendations if your brother can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 08:50 PM |
| 1 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.And who said men are supposed to be objective? That's impossible. We're supposed to be reasonable Whatever you’re being right now is neither objective nor reasonable. Maybe autistic. I don’t care about your standards nor what you “recognize as unhealthy”. If that’s what you consider unhealthy, then the fact of the matter is that there are still a lot of “unhealthy males” who would be influenced by more access to prostitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 07:37 PM |
| 1 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.Btw, I'm saying that the type of guy who falls in love with a stripper/hooker is fucked up. He's idolizing. She's just a walking $ to him. You ever talk to strippers? They think their regulars are pathetic, and they're right. First you tell the rest of us that you're a high inhibition guy who thinks "The underground nature of it turns me off to the whole endeavor". Now you're lecturing me (someone who doesn't mind admitting that he knows ppl at multiple levels in prostitution rings, girls and gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 07:02 PM |
| 1 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.Are you a man or a woman? If you're a man, it's strange to me that you're so against the idea that men can have sex without love. Happens all the time. I have plenty of male friends who feel this way. I'm an objective man. Just because I believe I personally can do what you're thinking, doesn't mean all men can. I'm asking you to be as objective and stop talking about your personal feelings. There are actually men right now, falling in love with whores. In contrast, you're telling me how you thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 06:51 PM |
| 1 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.Or rather, have your emotions. Just don't get too attached. Feel intensely in the moment, but avoid thining you have to cohabitate just because of your feels. You're talking about your ideal man, exactly what I was describing in my comment. You're calling men who don't follow your standard fucked up. I don't care what you call them. I actually know ppl working multiple levels of prostitution rings from managers/schedulers to drivers to traffickers. No one is under the illusion that the hotter gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 06:27 PM |
| 1 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.They’d have gotten more attention than the average woman still. Let’s not underestimate how much advantage the strippers have by being hotter than average and meeting a shit ton of horny men. I’m still making it about the typical man, who is not some masculine caricature or platonic ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 02:04 AM |
| 3 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.Yes, and this is a significant degree we are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 08:21 PM |
| 4 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.Strippers tend to be hot and have access to a lot of men / male demand as part of their job. They have numerical advantage from the outset. NAWALT | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 07:51 PM |
| 3 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.There's already open competition. Regulation will make things safer though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 06:31 PM |
| 20 | If prostitution were legal, then the quality of relationships would increase.Next, the only reason a man would get into a relationship would be for psychological/emotional reasons, not merely the sex drive. People in the pillsphere who talk about prostitution as a completely unemotional affair are deluding themselves. I see RPers (men and women) naively talking about how men can compartmentalize sex and love. It's often hyperbole, and they're talking about their platonic hypermasculine ubermensch. Sure, for that hypothetical man, he'll be unaffected. In reality, enough m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 06:22 PM |
| 2 | What is beta and what is alpha?The ones who do that don't care about precision of language. They're conflating beta with bp. I think I'm more rp. I also think I'm beta. I don't blame those other people for being wrong, but the fact of the matter is they're still bad at modeling/being precise. My father is a respectable person. He has multiple phds and is very "honorable" and intelligent. But using the way I defined beta, he is unquestionably a "beta-behaving" man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/17 07:23 AM |
| 2 | What is beta and what is alpha?Alpha and beta used as adjectives generally mean "leader" and "follower". To get more you have to take context into account. If you're in a chess club, an alpha is the best chess player. An alpha of a social hierarchy is simply the most powerful man. Betas are people who come after him. Someone "more alpha" is someone higher status. In the pillsphere context, we're talking about behaviours and character. We're talking about the behavioural axis, not the status axis. (Note: Status being 'state of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/17 01:29 AM |
| 7 | Q4all: What's the worst dating advice you gotten from someone who knows and cares about you?A-sian? You disappoint me. Why not A+sian? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/17 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4all: What's the worst dating advice you gotten from someone who knows and cares about you?Yeah it's overrepresented among Asians. Beyond ethnicity, it's a class thing. I notice it more often from UMC+ white people too. The difference is, they're more cultured unlike immigrants, so they'll have other standards of success to work with. First gen often are too uncultured and don't know what they're doing or what to teach their kids. First gen immigrants do not. STEM is universally understood, across cultures (unlike law, art, etc), this is why it's so popular among immigrants. This is w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/17 04:46 PM |
| 9 | Q4all: What's the worst dating advice you gotten from someone who knows and cares about you?Bad advice wrapped up in good intentions is still bad advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/17 06:34 AM |
| 25 | Q4all: What's the worst dating advice you gotten from someone who knows and cares about you?"Don't worry about girls and friends. Get good grades, get a nice stable job, make a lot of money. Later in life you'll be loved. Oh and also you'll be able to help me save the rest of our family from poverty." ~Mom But I never listened because my parents were too obviously uncultured and foreign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/17 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Dawn of the Sexbots: How does the dating market change?What are the implications? Men are already settling down less. In a world of Tinder, and online dating women are getting pickier. Are we going to face a massive population decline? When you can't tell the difference, do you really care that what you "love" is a machine? One thing I'd cautiously bet on is a gradual withdrawal of character-based value system towards more duty-based ones. E.g. Virtue ethics giving way to deontology. Protestantism giving way to Catholicism. I'd also bet on a much mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 04:49 AM |
| 6 | CMV: being a "success object" isn't as bad as being a sex objectIt includes single mom households, even when those single moms are getting alimony or gov't support. That's counts as a breadwinner in the pew study referenced. Last I checked, about 20% of two parent households have a mom that makes more. This is when both parents are working full time (this isn't even counting when father is working full-time and mother is working part-time). No matter how many times I bring up the inaccuracies of that statistic ("women are breadwinners in 40% of marriages!"),… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Let's face it, there is no perfect formula for success in sex/love/relationshipsConnecting with people involves a lot -- A LOT of variables. There's no limit to the number of variables a formula can have. No one says it has to be easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/17 11:30 PM |
| 7 | Why don't red pillers just use normal words?You don't have to. I'm just telling you that people in finance do. A high alpha stock is high performing. A high beta stock follows and reacts strongly to the rest of the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/17 12:35 AM |
| 11 | Why don't red pillers just use normal words?And why do traders/brokers describe stocks as "alpha" or "beta"? They should stop being neckbeards and just use normal words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 07:12 PM |
| 6 | Why don't red pillers just use normal words?I suppose it also depends on what your goals are. Parallel is time efficient if: You're trying to fuck a wide variety of women in a short period of time. Or you're want to find a committed relationship in a limited, given amount of time (maybe because you're getting older, maybe because you assume ppl will reveal their true selves after a general set amount of time) It's not time efficient if you are busy and dont have time to date multiple women, if that's what you're thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:49 PM |
| 4 | Q4all: Are you dark triad?So it's about "power" not sadism itself. What I am questioning is why some women explicit say they're attracted to sadism itself. Sadism is taking pleasure in seeing others' suffering not necessarily enacted by you. Perhaps they're not compartmentalizing properly and conflating/correlated power to sadism. Is that what you're saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:45 PM |
| 13 | Why don't red pillers just use normal words?It is immediately obvious to us nerds, semicolon. See the context. Previous line, I mention how it would be more relatable to all the nerds on the trp subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:35 PM |
| 3 | Q4all: Are you dark triad?It's the way some ppl read the questions. There's intent written into some of the questions. I didn't make any assumptions about intent (particularly the "negative intent" that leane assumed the test writers may have had -- she might have been right, who knows) and put greater weight on the exact actions. E.g. one question asked if you remember information about people that can be used against them. She assumed the intent. I didn't. I just remember as much as I can about people. It's practical. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:31 PM |
| 8 | Question for married/almost married Bloopers: Are we out of touch?Numerous factors tint your perspective. I'd say that ppl in successful, long term marriages probably found "healthy" partners. The longer someone stays single, the higher the chances that his or her dating pool is going to be limited to "defective", increasingly AWALTY/AMALTY people. Long-term married ppl also do not see a long-term view of the sexual marketplace as it evolves for singles' dating pools/options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:27 PM |
| 19 | Why don't red pillers just use normal words?Spinning plates = casual dating Spinning plates isn't just casual dating. I prefer the term "parallel dating", as opposed to "serial dating" The term is nerdier but more accurate and would be more relatable to all the nerds on trp subreddit. It's immediately obvious how parallel is more time efficient than serial in context of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:22 PM |
| 9 | Q4all: Are you dark triad?I took a DT test linked in the IRC once. Not going to redo it. But the results were extremly high Mach, low psychopathy, somewhat low narcissism. I remember /u/LeaneGenova tried to convince me that I wasn't actually that high mach, because she loves me and DT is terrible to bpers, and we had a very autistic/pedantic lawyery argument over that. It was accurate to me. I am very practical, not crazy, and super fucking humble. DT is ridiculous. What's worse is the "Dark Tetrad" (which includes sadis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?Rpers online who discuss the things we do I've noticed are generally N-types for mbti. Neurotic, low-input-to-high-output overthinkings/overfeelers. You feed them a bit of input (observations, readings, experiences), and they'll spin up a ton of theories or feelings. Most people offline are more S-type. They'll go about their day without overthinking or overfeeling things. You need to force feed them and help them connect the dots and sometimes they still won't see what us N-types spun up. The T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:27 AM |
| 3 | THE QuestionDon't forget your very 1st Amendment rights. "You have the right to remain silent--" "I also have the right to free speech, pig." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 04:14 AM |
| 4 | Farewell, guys. Thanks for the advice.While she might not have given you advice (I don't know), there's someone else you're missing who was unusually fond of you and belongs in your list. You two teamed up and actually out-autismed a spambot. That was amazing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 09:11 PM |
| 4 | most incels aren't humorlessYeah, no one who has chatted with you real time doubts you can be funny and you're def not stupid. You're sharp/quick. They just distrust your intentions and autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 06:01 PM |
| 7 | most incels aren't humorless"Entitled" 'Entitled' is a fairly meaningless word that does not accurately describe most of the incels on this sub or elsewhere on the Internet. On one extreme, the word 'entitled' is used to describe men who literally believe that they should be able to force women to date them. On the other extreme, the word 'entitled' is used to describe men who are merely frustrated or sad that they can't find anyone at all to date them. This type of frustration is reasonable, since sex and romantic relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 05:58 PM |
| 9 | most incels aren't humorless"You think I can get a job at McDonald's? but there are McGODs who can turn sawdust into filet mignon and distill piss into nectar of ambrosia" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Low libido or lack of sexual attraction?Just remember: She accepted mega anal from Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 06:30 AM |
| 4 | Eliot Rodgers was a heroElliot had a dream that one day we would live in a nation where we are not judged by our sexual histories, but by the color of our skin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 09:01 PM |
| 1 | 42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women?You're a good sport, so i'll show you something interesting: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.mynavi.jp%2Fnews%2F2014%2F07%2F11%2F081%2F&edit-text=&act=url Convergent theories from Japanese ppl who basically give no fucks about weeb/manospherean culture in the USA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 07:57 PM |
| 2 | 42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women?also, as the japanese evolved from squid rather than primates, their brains are extremely different, they only look like humans because of evolutionary convergence Early Japanese ancestors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 07:52 PM |
| 1 | 42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women?inb4 MUH FOREIGN CULTURE - it isn't THAT foreign. Hahaha inb4 MUH JAPAN IS FULL OF INCELS - nope. HHAHAHAAHA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 07:50 PM |
| 2 | <=== N-count correlated to the highest SMVWith the mods gone, all the whore shamers have come out of the woodworks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Do Critics of the Google Manifesto not realize that a lot of their comments may actually support his positions?Who are hardcore female nerds dating/marrying? Chad or no one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 05:57 PM |
| 9 | Men and women have a sexual duty, sexual responsibility, to their species.The people who think there are physical/real world consequences for not following through with this "Duty" are treating it as a spook / reification. The consequences are entirely within the individual's mind. If you put it on yourself to follow through this "duty" and you don't, you just feel some guilt. I do feel "duty", but i dont rationally think anything outside my own mind will punish me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/17 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Guys who act silly and dare to make fun of himself are the actual alphaHey quilly, late reply but here goes: I mostly agree mostly but since this cmv I present to you some good for thought. Women's descriptions of what alpha are I've found are generally closer to being about character. They're always interpreting behaviour rather than describing it the exact actions a guy is taking. would you be able to describe this person more precisely in terms of exact actions he's taking? Also, you sound like you're misinterpreting stoicism as many bpers and even less nuanced … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/17 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Are tomatoes fruits or vegetables?I thought about this but then decided to look past this. I'm assuming it wasn't OP's intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 02:35 AM |
| 7 | Q4RP: Are tomatoes fruits or vegetables?I get your point. Gender was original tied to culture, not biology. It was originally grammatical gender until J. Money popularized its new use which people are conflating with sex. It's a different taxonomic system, though, ofc related to biological sex. That being said, where the analogy fails is that none of us care how a tomato feels when we call it a fruit or vegetable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/17 05:33 PM |
| 3 | On the supposed corruption of womenIf you want my opinion, the ROK scale that was linked to you doesn't have sigma 1. Maybe 2. What that would mean is that a 7 on that scale may be 1 standard deviation above the mean (i.e. 7+ may be around top 10% if we included obese, deformed, and aging population). This is just a misunderstanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/17 10:10 AM |
| 3 | On the supposed corruption of womenThere is. It depends on the distribution like I said. It only takes slightly more than one standard deviation below the mean to be close to bottom 10%. Bottom 10% isn't actually that bad. Not hideously ugly. Just noticeably worse looking that average. Something to remember for the day. People dont care about small differences. They care about significant, memorable, obvious ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/17 09:13 AM |
| 3 | On the supposed corruption of womenFor me there should be a way bigger gap between 4-9. Ok. On one hand you seem to think too many girls are crunched into the 5-6. That it's being too generous with what girls count as average. One the other hand, you think there should be a way bigger gap between 4 and 9. Do you understand the mathematical implications of what you're saying? When you want bigger gaps, more significance, you try to try to lower your sigma values. That means more girls are going to end up rated average. That is why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/17 05:56 AM |
| 9 | Why does the manosphere try to suppress female promiscuity?If by manosphere you're referring to Internet forums for men, then I highly doubt it. They're echoing preexisting sentiments. The manosphere didn't come up with "your momma's a slut/whore" insults. Those have existed for a while and they're common around the world. There's clearly something there that's easy to denigrate. Also, the more serious accusations of sluttiness, against both men and women, have come from women, ime. Women trying to discourage me from hooking up with certain girls. "She'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 12:15 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: Has communication ever led to more sex?Because I didn't refer to you specifically. You're the one making it about you now. Here is what you were originally saying: "Never seen you act that way towards a guy when they lose someone." How was I supposed to know your hypothetical "guy" was yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/17 08:08 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: Has communication ever led to more sex?Because that guy is unlikable compared to /u/IamTheWalkingMenu | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/17 05:53 PM |
| 5 | Is a man fucking an 8 yr old child, who has received breast and hip implants, human growth hormone for height, and a surgically widened vagina so that she is indistinguishable from an 18 year old, a pedophile?Not a pedophile, but legally a child molestor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 05:33 PM |
| 1 | A short personal opinion surveyI don't consciously decide whether something makes sense or not. It's compulsive. People do that are wondrous/incredible to me. It's like they're picking and choosing what they believe based on what makes them feel good or what benefits them. What a magnificent ability! I wish I had that. I don't try to pick ideas from a shelf based on how they benefit me or how consistent they are with what I already believe. If you are just saying that the ideas I accept, compulsively, are likely influenced by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 11:34 PM |
| 2 | A short personal opinion surveyNo. I don't know if you're projecting or if i'm not making myself clear enough. I'm not talking about an ideological framework. If the idea just "makes sense" logically, I can't reject it. If someone walks me through the logical induction he used to arrive at his Scientific Wild Ass Guess, I'd admit, "ok, I see where this idea comes from, and it makes sense." It can completely counter my ideological biases/preference, and it wouldn't matter. I think you're talking about subjectivity. Both the at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 11:17 PM |
| 3 | A short personal opinion surveySome non-religious folk I've talked to are simply incapable of believing in the divine. They actually wish they could. They'd feel a lot better about it. They feel miserable knowing what they know. They're just incapable of fooling themselves (into believing in an afterlife, cosmic justice, God, or whatever). They wish they could. Plenty of ideas run completely counter to a lot of my personal faiths and values, but I don't reject them. If the ideas make sense, I don't think I'm even capable of r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 08:58 PM |
| 3 | A short personal opinion surveyI avoid rejecting ideas just because they run counter to my internal values. I try my best to keep values and ideas separate. Something can be true, even if the people disseminating it are my enemies. I do have biases and stubborn internal values that might run counter to sense, if that's what you're asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 08:10 PM |
| 2 | A short personal opinion surveyI meant Disagree / Agree for the first one. I agree most others hamster. I don't. People I trust don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 07:52 PM |
| 1 | A short personal opinion surveyFor me / for others. Disagree / Agree Agree / Disagree Agree / Disagree Disagree / Disagree Agree / Agree Agree / Disagree Disagree / Disagree Agree / Agree Disagree / Disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 07:08 PM |
| 7 | Who has higher self esteem and better self perceptions in general, men or women?IF they have all these reasons to have high self-esteem, and yet they're not responding to it and still behave like they have lower self-esteem, it means to me that women naturally have lower self-esteem. It's sort of like how men overestimate their SMV and end up surprised when they find that women generally rate them below avg. High esteem/expectations not matching up with reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 09:53 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel when it's clear that your date is "out of your league"?Both noticeably higher She clearly loves me. How fortunate for her. and noticeably lower She clearly loves me. How unfortunate for her. Please indicate your sex/gender. Male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 09:42 PM |
| 10 | Who has higher self esteem and better self perceptions in general, men or women?It's difficult to give you the benefit of the doubt here. I don't think you're understanding OP's question or my point. Your top level comment is about the good things women have going for them (e.g. easier access to casual sex), in your opinion. OP is asking about women's self confidence/esteem. People can have a lot going for them but still feel unsatisfied, unconfident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 09:41 PM |
| 13 | Who has higher self esteem and better self perceptions in general, men or women?This isn't about who you think is better off though. This is about who has higher self esteem/confidence. Regardless of where you think they are at, if you think they're still unsatisfied or anxious, that would indicate they're low confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 09:16 PM |
| 6 | Who has higher self esteem and better self perceptions in general, men or women?Some of them legit think they're worse off than women in the most important ways (important to them). Some of them sound hopeless. That's low enough confidence to me. I don't care to prove them wrong by applying ad hoc rationalizations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 09:14 PM |
| 16 | Who has higher self esteem and better self perceptions in general, men or women?Men. Reading this sub might make you think otherwise (what with all the low confidence men and all the talk about modern men slowly being feminized), but I still rest assured that men generally have higher confidence/ego on avg based not only one various metrics and stats I read but experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 09:11 PM |
| 2 | Why doesn't society just tell boys/men what girls/women want?And safe. Tie those males down to a wife and kids. Turn them beta. Then you have a stable worker who has responsibilities... Instead of some single "alpha" male that can decide any minute that "I've got enough money to live freely and do blow and hookers for the rest of my life! It's not as expensive as paying off a mortgage and leaving inheritance for a legacy!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 12:31 AM |
| 2 | The Collapse of DatingI'm trying to steer this one friend to TRP, but he's super-against divorce. Basically, she'd either have to get caught red-handed cheating or running up a bunch of credit card debt (again). Ouch. Yeah, that's another way she has power over him, if she knows he wont do anything against her. Yeah That's one of the risks. If you're super against divorce and you end up with someone willing to take advantage of your trust like that, you're kind of fucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/17 11:31 PM |
| 2 | The Collapse of DatingDo these women have higher smv/rmv than the men? I've found that people get resentful over imbalances and don't care about these covert contracts you've imagined. "I did 1000 little things right, why aren't I rewarded?" It's one of those just world fallacies being sold to us that makes us resentful that we aren't being treated "fairly". The world isn't fair. It's about power. The side that feels like they have more power and are worth more will naturally hold it over the other and often covertly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/17 09:37 PM |
| 6 | Why don't men want to protect women in public anymore?Yeah sucks for you. Can't even fight back, because they're "teens". Never mind the fact that they're often just normal large adult males. Sometimes healthier and more fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/17 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Sperm Count of Western Men Plummetinghttp://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/ They're only recently doing studies on certain pesticides like Atrazine. Endocrine inhibitors. Not the same as "xenoestrogens" but it can have similar effects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do women have more fun in life than men? Does it depend on SMV? Does it depend on age?They're having sex with men. I don't want to have sex with men. If I did, I wouldn't be the same person. In your scenario, you'd be a woman with masculine sexuality. Gay masculine sexuality, to make it clear that I'm not just talking about being sexually attracted to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do women have more fun in life than men? Does it depend on SMV? Does it depend on age?and having endless on-demand as-much-as-you-want orgasmic sex with hot/cool/smart partners. Yeah, but they're fucking men! No thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?This is true; these gods are best used as inspiration, rather than as examples of the futility of striving. Lol. You say that, but you keep fucking spazzing over these Gods! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 10:06 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?A woman with multiple "faces" becomes a demi-goddess and is both revered and hated by other women, for she is likely to take home the full provisioning package from multiple men, just for herself. Hmm, Hated by women. I've rarely if ever hated Staceys or Chads. They always just seemed like friendly folk, but that may be because in person I'm not thinking too hard about people being cool to me. That is normal to me. I remember being perplexed about why some girls were gossiped about and hated so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?Yeah. Some ppl get neurotic over the fact that ppl "better" than them on every observable metric exist. I just assume that sort of gaming of the audience should be left to self help groups like the TRP sub. PPD is a small community where my propaganda/gaming isn't going to have much influence anyway. I'd rather just rant about what I see and abstractly think so long as it's honest. There'll almost always be someone better than us, whether he fits the ideal perfectly or not, and some ppl just nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?Which is why there's this huge undercurrent in female intrasexual interaction of "not trying." Intersexual? I assumed it would be more intrasexual for women. Why would guys care if women are putting effort into improving themselves, especially if it's for men, as per this discussion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?An ent is a toker. It's r/trees lingo I picked up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 08:25 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?Those incels are right though. Chad exists. I've known some Chads. One of my closest friends / an ex roommate was one. Team captain of boxing team and dance instructor were a couple of others. Sporty, nice people. Fit the stereotypes perfectly. I don't care if this makes some guys spaz out more. They're right. Some amazing people exist in this world. Much respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?nah. I've seen some cool girl Staceys and cool Chads. They're not mystical and they're likable people, at least to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 08:19 PM |
| 8 | Q4Women: We know "Chad" represents personified insecurity to men, and "Stacy" represents the hot girls that ignored men. Do women have a female personified form of insecurity ("Zooey")? If no, why not? If yes, what is she like?Chad represents hypergamy. It's one person. The gender inversion is polygyny. Harems. So it's multiple women. Sluts in general. Rpers weren't the one whom I first heard slutshaming from. It was jealous or concerned women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 08:09 PM |
| 8 | Sperm Count of Western Men PlummetingIf it's pollution related I expect certain places to be worse in Asia and SA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 03:24 AM |
| 7 | Sperm Count of Western Men PlummetingBy comparison, the researchers found no significant declines in the sperm counts and sperm concentrations of men living in South America, Asia and Africa. Ok, so it's specifically something happening to western countries where men's sperm count is plunging by almost 2% per year. Edit: why are pesticides brought up. Are they not using pesticides at all or not using the same ones in Asia and South America ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 03:11 AM |
| 7 | Sperm Count of Western Men PlummetingWOMEN shakes fist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Dissolution of familial bonds and the betaYou dont have to do anything about it. I'm talking about existing inhibitions. It might not be your concern, but it was clearly a concern of many ppl I saw. They didn't act despite showing signs they disapproved. That is a beta inhibition. High FTO, calculated, conservative, etc. Obviously, you don't care, so it's not your inhibition I'm referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/17 07:36 AM |
| 2 | Dissolution of familial bonds and the betaYes, I have one more than one occasion. I didn't want to tbh, so I'm not trying to paint this as the right thing to do. I felt all the inhibitions of the beta males I'm talking about, that's partially why I feel like I understand them. It didn't go badly for me, because I won (nothing went terribly wrong). That's why I also said that it's not just about challenging, but winning. It's definitely calculated risk, and often even stupidity. This isn't about whether it's smart or not. I'm OFTEN talki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/17 01:49 AM |
| 3 | Dissolution of familial bonds and the betaCan't and won't are often the same, because we're not mindreaders, and we're not thinking perfectly rationally about these things. The man who is unchallenged appears dominant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/17 01:15 AM |
| 3 | Dissolution of familial bonds and the betaI posted in an earlier thread my thoughts on that. I think there's tacit acknowledgement that an asshole breaking social conventions is uninhibited and fearless. Meanwhile, people who want to do something but can't are inhibited and powerless. I'm fine with people unable to act. I can respect their rationality in a way (they just have their priorities set differently). The fact that they can't act for some reason, rational or not, just happens to look powerless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/17 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Dissolution of familial bonds and the betaFearlessness can come from many things, even stupidity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Dissolution of familial bonds and the betaSure, if those men thought nothing of it, then it would have made sense. I heard people talking about it. I could see that people didn't like it. They didn't like it, and yet had inhibitions about acting. Self inhibitions against doing what you want to do are beta. It could be smart and rational, but still a sign of weakness at a visceral level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Is there any truth to this "women are attracted to bad boys" trope that gets trotted around?And why do women like bad boys? Because other boys aren't breaking their faces. Being unchallenged makes them a winner by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 09:26 PM |
| 4 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and AlphasTake a group of high-variance alphas. They spend all their money on stupid shit like lotto tickets. The women and betas do things the rational way. Out of a million dumb alphas, one wins. The rest are broke morons. Some struggling betas/omegas look at the lucky one and think, "What a winner!" Yeah, no thanks. We can win without emulating a moronic DT alpha. We can systematize, but do it right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 09:05 PM |
| 6 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and AlphasThey don't want to fuck people who are too beta. That's the problem with a lot of rp newbs. Check out the asktrp sub. A lot of them were too beta and are trying to over compensate by going the other extreme. Look at the heuristic they give about giving the girl 1/3 while she gives back 2/3 in a relationship. That's a generalized rule of thumb to remember so they dont slip into being too giving. I see betas IRL, all the time, running their beta game and succeeding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 08:55 PM |
| 2 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and AlphasI understand your point. Betas have more inhibitions, generally. They lack certainty for whatever reason. They can make up for it via faith, conviction, security, etc. E.g. A weaker male looks at a larger male and might think, "I only have a 10% chance to beat that man. It's not rational to fight." Sure. That's rational. Here's the disconnect though. A beta can see that and can work to improve his odds. That 10% becomes 90%. That's also beta. Discipline and conviction. Sure, a beta that has low … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 08:51 PM |
| 4 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and AlphasOften a single beta is enough. He's just worried about his family, rep, other things. Beta inhibitions can vary. A pure alpha though? One that threatens this beta's lifestyle/family? One that no one cared for if he was just "gone"? Yeah, inhibitions will drop like flies for such guys. That alpha can get curbstomped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 07:55 PM |
| 7 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and Alphasyes. Some self inhibitions can also be negative depending on purpose/outcome. that's why I pointed out that there aren't pure betas. Faith/Conviction can help people get over that fear/self concern. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 07:22 PM |
| 11 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and AlphasThere are little to no pure betas either. We focus too much on negative beta qualities. There are plenty of self inhibiting traits (beta) that can make men more powerful. Discipline being one. A man with trigger discipline and diligence to practice can much more likely kill a wild alpha who can't aim worth shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 07:17 PM |
| 19 | In the future, there need only be two types of humans: Women and AlphasThat's low beta or omega level thinking. Betas who have any pride in what they do know they have a place. Alphas provide the seed, entertainment, and protection needed. lol @ alpha providing the seed and entertainment. And any protection they provide will be for their personal interest. A pure alpha lacks the vision. Those alphas can be curbstomped and brought to heel for any beta to realize his own visions. Ofc, the lower betas/omegas who have no faith in themselves can't even imagine themselve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/17 06:53 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: What common things that are said on this sub make you sad?You said you had a looker ask YOU out. You dumped her eventually because you felt uncomfortable / insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Just who are the unfuckable women?Fantastic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 02:03 AM |
| 1 | What's the worst thing a man has done to you while you were with them?For real, or are you joking about him being a fat fetishist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Just who are the unfuckable women?Done with recovery? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Just who are the unfuckable women?What made you do that, out of curiosity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Just who are the unfuckable women?That's still possible to fuck though. I think I've been on weird forums for too long... ones where actual anorexic women get posted. Ones so skinny fucking them would entail homicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Just who are the unfuckable women?I realized I've never touched that fluid buildup/edema that causes some of those fat ankles/feet. It sometimes comes from diseases associated with poor health (obesity... heart disease). Got me thinking of the opposite problem. Health problems from being too thin/bony. I imagine fucking them, and then I imagine them just snapping in half. Probably makes them unfuckable as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/17 12:11 AM |
| 11 | Just who are the unfuckable women?neigh impossible: Nigh impossible, even for a horse. "Would you fuck that woman?" "Neigh, impossible." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/17 11:48 PM |
| 2 | What's the worst thing a woman has done to you while dating her?Recently, Z fed me an imperfect cherry. She should have known better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/17 07:20 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women are inferior to men*sniffs* Disgusting. That's a participation trophy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/17 03:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The vast majority of crap that men put up with is the fault of more powerful men.come at me bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/17 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: How much casual sex did you get in your 20's?This should be trivial. Intelligent people are adept at problem solving, and read less intelligent people easily. The conversations one has with less intelligent people might bore an intelligent person, but pussy is worth it. Intelligence doesn't always equal autism :)) Yeah, a lot of things are intuitive. In this case, you are either missing some factors or projecting your personal experiences. Feynman was exceptional. Wrt Einstein, an extramarital affair is not that special except to incels. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/17 06:13 PM |
| 2 | What version of the red pill are you?Everything you listed is a prescriptive version. What about the descriptive versions? E.g. the Pedant Branch. "Someone is wrong on the internet." It's not an insignificant minority on ppd from what I can tell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/17 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Children in single-mother-by-choice families do just as well as those in two-parent families.I'm not here to denigrate the poor or single mothers. I simply don't believe the article is a good case for what the OP's message. That's an honest message from me too. Frankly, I expect those kids in the article DO end up becoming more successful than average, because I believe nature trumps nurture anyway. These mothers are selected (they're wealthier and more confident) and so are the fathers (IVF is usually done with using genetic material found by a more selective process). I just don't thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/17 06:33 AM |
| 3 | Children in single-mother-by-choice families do just as well as those in two-parent families.I know what you're talking about. Some people call these "single mothers by choice". As in they "choose" to have babies out of wedlock, since birth control is available. Or they "choose" to divorce their husbands. E.g. Atlasb above, referred to this info graph: https://thesocietypages.org/graphicsociology/files/2010/10/maritaldecline.jpg Those are often referred to as "single mothers by choice" by rpers. Sure. I can see that. Do you think those are the same "single mothers by choice" referred to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/17 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Children in single-mother-by-choice families do just as well as those in two-parent families.Two fifths (45.8%) of all single mothers received food stamps.22 Among children with single mothers, 45% get food stamps and 55% don’t.23 Roughly two thirds received free or reduced-price meals. You're right. Less than half. Put in another way, "Almost half". They get child support still and are also in poverty five times the normal rate. I'm not sure why you want to talk about these minor points. Do you see the main point? How the ones people talk about, the ones we are arguing about right now … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/17 05:44 AM |
| 3 | Children in single-mother-by-choice families do just as well as those in two-parent families.They aren't a tiny minority. iirc single moms are actually the majority of households where moms are breadwinners. And that was yrs ago. You can look it up. If you can't I can provide tomorrow when I'm not on phone. In any case it's still more common than Swedish ivf moms. Your point about divorced moms isn't much better. It's still very diff from Swedish ivf moms by chhoice who have large support networks. You know that is not what guys complain about here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/17 05:34 AM |
| 14 | Children in single-mother-by-choice families do just as well as those in two-parent families.Your article focuses on "single mothers by choice" who had large social networks. Women who got ivf. Ie women who felt ready. It's not anywhere a fair comparison when a lot of kids by couples are unplanned. A fair comparison would be to two parent households where both parents chose / were ready to have a kid and had a large social network. That would skew things towards UMC+ families. Now I don't blame the article. It was upfront about this. The problem I have is with your flippant comments mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/17 05:23 AM |
| 3 | What special powers do people with a triple figure n count have compared to low n count people?The OP doesn't specify either. Just asks about high N count without discrimination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/17 03:14 AM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: How do you deal with insecurity and the question of what your value is in this world?Thank god this isn't my kind of neurosis. I just like to overthink. You're doing something else. I call it "overfeeling". Growing up with a genius younger brother has gotten me used to the idea that there'll always be someone more successful than me. That experience has made me the most humble person in the world. As for insecurity, it's fine. It's not crippling you into inaction, is it? Just channel it into something useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/17 02:44 AM |
| 33 | "We would make cute babies"Look, OP, I don't care if you decide to pass her up or not, but if she signaled any harder, she'd be hurting you with radiation poisoning. | /r/askTRP | 13/07/17 02:11 AM |
| 3 | "We would make cute babies"Probably just trying to get a rise out of you. Words mean nothing to a woman, it's action that counts. This is action: "while she's always been flirty (calling me cute, punching my stomach, complimenting my body) she's never taken it this far" | /r/askTRP | 13/07/17 02:10 AM |
| 1 | How straight couples met their partnersIt's not just that. It's the decline of traditional ways of meeting people. Church, family, etc. The disconnect meaning that communities don't have to be as tight anymore. People have the option of leaving their current envs/social circles and adapting quickly to new environments. Also, I still don't understand how you're getting "more valuable". It's strange for you to ask me to explain my logic while you avoid explaining your own logical leaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/17 07:43 PM |
| 1 | How straight couples met their partnersWhere are you getting "more valuable" from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/17 05:24 PM |
| 9 | Do preferences stay constant after adolescence, or do they change after time?It's generally women that have more erotic plasticity. IME, women's preferences trend more and more towards what their SO is like, so long as they're doing everything else right. Men are supposed to be more stubborn, though we too have some erotic plasticity to a lesser extent. It's been true for me, at least. I end up liking girls that like me. I'm not sure what it is. Mostly pride, IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/17 12:02 AM |
| 1 | How straight couples met their partnersOne of my theories is on the interpersonal disconnect (which college and internet contribute to). I mentioned it in the OP. Gradual degradation of traditional communities. Bar/Restaurant just means more "strangers" are connecting now. People aren't connecting as much via traditional means and relying on those kind of chance encounters "open SMP" style. It's not just the internet. Public services are just becoming better and replacing traditional functions of a community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 11:43 PM |
| 4 | How straight couples met their partnersOutside still exists, doors still exist, mouths still exist, you can go talk to people if you want to, you don't have to use online dating or even delivery services if you don't wanna. I'm not defending ppl. This is just showing cause-effect without judgment. Modern conveniences make it easier for people to be fat. Like you said though, outside still exists. Exercise still exists. Too FOB. Oh definitely. Fobby folk who dont adjust are especially hit hard. However, they're not enough alone. The g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 11:41 PM |
| 2 | How straight couples met their partnersSome of my parents' friends met their SOs in labour camps. Those were the days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 11:38 PM |
| 1 | How straight couples met their partnersI've used dating apps in the past, but I met my partner at a coffee shop. "At a bar/restaurant" is included as one of the Big Three, along with "through friends" and "online". "Through friends" is the one that I'd consider closer to traditional or "closed SMP", where you are dating within a mostly contained/limited social circle ("connections"). The whole point is that it's more of an Open SMP now. Bars and restaurants count as part of that, because you're not being set up. It's not a closed com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 11:35 PM |
| 4 | Low SMV Men, Women, and Female SolipsismAt what point is indulging these thoughts productive, and at what point is it paralyzing? IME this depends more on the person than the thoughts themselves. A fact or lie that will paralyze neurotic feelers will have little to no effect on others. Some people can't detach their thoughts from their personal situation. I agree in general though, since it seems more people are feelers to some degree or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you ever find yourself embarrassed by other folks who espouse your viewpoints?Imo, you and I both see labels as tools. I think the main difference is that I not really arguing with bpers anymore so much as I am providing something for rpers to look at and critique. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/17 06:45 AM |
| 10 | Q4RP: Do you ever find yourself embarrassed by other folks who espouse your viewpoints?Do you ever feel like some of the bad behavior in TRP reflects badly on the whole, or do you not care or think about it much? Caring/Worrying about the brand is a position of weakness. You're being carried by it. It's sort of like worrying about your school or company's reputation, because you're carried by it. I personally don't care if trp reflects badly on rpers. It doesn't get back to me because I'm anonymous. That isn't to say my side is perfect; it bothers me when BPers or members of my po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/17 10:32 PM |
| 13 | Discussion: is women dating older men really a thing?Yeah I see it and I'm not wealthy. UMC tops. Ime it's mainly married women who disapprove. The married husbands rarely care unless they are with their wives. Where it is most noticeable to me is in second wives. Very large age gaps often over a decade. From whispers I hear coming from women's tables, "i saw him a month after his divorce. She looked so much younger than him!" "I think I know who you're talking about. Early thirties?" "Early 20s..." I think it's less the case for first marriages, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 08:52 PM |
| 1 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual successYes I have. I partially address this in the OP and in comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 03:55 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: How can men deal with the fundamental paradox that (1) you need a genuine DGAF attitude to fuck a lot of girls but (2) you need to fuck a lot of girls to acquire a genuine DGAF attitude?Follow Nike's example by making a shit ton of money, becoming recognizable to as many people as possible, and exploiting Asian women and children... and not necessarily in that order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Should male contraceptives be covered by taxpayers?They're not comparable to female contraceptives. The argument from many women for BC coverage extends to women's health, beyond sex. That it's supposed to relieve pain for a lot of them. This doesn't mean that I support either (I don't think insurance in general has to be fair in all instances). I question whether the two are comparable in that case. Taking their arg for granted, it would be monthly headache meds + condoms for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 08:21 AM |
| 3 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual successIn all the years I've known you and your alts, this is the most speculative thing I've read from you. I'm almost proud of you. Do you think that, besides your theory (on self-pity and deflection), problems wrt sexual relations hinge heavily on self-inhibition as a major factor? It's related to your own theory, to say the least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 08:13 AM |
| 6 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual successThat was my initial assumption. TGP actually helped point this part out to me, in the OP: (Note the comment at the bottom in the thread: "Those who posted at least 10% of their last 1000 posts to /r/incels while having at least 10 incels posts." The data was collected from the most active /r/incels members who used that sub as one of their primary subreddits. They're not just invaders.) This makes it less likely that they were invaders or "outrage readers". They're active participants. The stron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 01:49 AM |
| 2 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual successYeh my own examples are incels that consistently care about social failure and ridicule. I mean it's not hard evidence and not "proof" but it's still evidence and I wasn't content just relying on my personal anecdata. Any way you look at it, active incel posters chose to visit and focus on those subreddits sharing that sort of theme. It's just evidence that they care a lot about the topic of social failure. This is intuitive and I dare say obvious but social inhibition was something that could b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 12:51 AM |
| 3 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual success"Incel scholar" as in a self admitted incel (it's his flair) who is also a scholar. It was a compliment to him. lol. This was an observation. It's not hard proof that you're asking for. It's evidence. It's an open discussion so you're free to provide examples or evidence of your counter assertion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 12:39 AM |
| 3 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual successI think it's an interesting correlation, but I still maintain nothing matters except SMV, and by SMV, I mean looks, and at least average social skills. Do you think high social inhibition affects "social skills" you're talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 12:25 AM |
| 3 | High social inhibition and its effects on sexual successYeah, I thought about these possibilities as well. However, TGP reminded me of the comment. These are active /r/incels posters who contribute significantly to that subreddit. I get what you're saying that some incels just followed bpers back to their subreddit and subbed just to argue. If it was just that, I wouldn't be commenting on this subject, but besides TBP there's strong connection to other subreddits that follow the same pattern. (Focusing on failures from low social inhibition/awareness… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/17 11:41 PM |
| 4 | Would you buy drugs for your bf if he asked you to?being a huge weenie is cute and fem anyway. It's not just the law. I've heard a couple of dealers indirectly related to me get beat up and i wouldn't trust a girlfriend/wife to be near that. Most girls I know don't know how to get drugs conveniently and safely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/17 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Video game and social media addictionThat's an excellent distinction. I know it's not the central point you're making, but I was actually arguing something similar on the irc recently. "Validation" from likes on social media likely don't mean as much as fandom. The scripted reality from fandom, constantly being proposed to, being told "i love you" can wear certain tactics thin and get tiring. It's more nuanced than "social media likes". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/17 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you think TRP can be used ethically?I didn't say only virtue ethics. If I had to rank the major three normative ones, I'd guess virtue > consequentialism (where utilitarianism may fall) > deontology, in that order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/17 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Do you think TRP can be used ethically?Depends on what normative ethics we are focusing on. Virtue ethics are where a lot of trp tactics will be questioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/17 03:40 PM |
| 10 | Single women are not happy despite insisting they areA lot of the problems I see on Reddit are caused by college saturation. When that happens, when even average people get to go to a college (albeit mediocre) you end up with a lot of colleges with 55%+ women and 45%- men. That minor imbalance will skew the SMP and will create lonely women. It's not necessarily just standards of women rising. hot, chiseled alpha man to love Hardly anyone is looking for "chiseled" abs. Most guys aren't walking around shirtless. Each utterance of "chiseled abs" I he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/17 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectThere are a lot of people on PPD who believe "Literally AWALT all the time, in every situation." So unless I know the person I'm talking to and know (or can at least infer) what they mean by AWALT-- I'm going to ask follow up questions to see what exactly they mean. Right. In case you and dakru are misunderstanding my intents, I'm not prescribing an action here. I posit that what you're saying is understood whether consciously or instinctively by a lot of people, and they get annoyed by that (ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/17 06:53 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: Lindey Ellis explains Feminist TheoryI ended up watching a list of her videos while on a long drive home. The one you linked is one of her more boring ones. It's a typical feminist "why aren't there more girls in THIS film"? Her other videos were a lot more interesting. In one video, she spent almost an hour talking about why Disney's Hercules failed. Her Genre discussion was on point to me. This one? All I could agree with her on thought was an interesting topic was post-modernism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/17 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Video game and social media addictionI love nerds. I love this kind of analysis, but over 90% of the time I'm even considering doing it, someone has already done it. EDIT: These from the same subreddit, relevant. https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditAnalysis/comments/25ujjx/rthebluepill_drilldown_may_2014/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditAnalysis/comments/2hw1jk/rtheredpill_drilldown_september_2014/ It's still worth it for us to do one for Incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectI find it interesting to talk with people that hold a disdain towards entire demographics and see how they rationalize it and think of themselves as superior. You're looking at the wrong guy then, because I don't hate women. I don't speak for rpers. I don't care about the ones that hate women. I mentioned endemic aspects of TRP but you don't have to address them if you don't want to. I discuss endemic aspects of TRP almost weekly on the IRC. I'm an analytical guy and enjoy it. Why would I avoid … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectYeah, in real life there are more social hierarchies and there's risk to our rep. We're in a meeting, and the presenter is trying to make a point, you try to listen and respond to his actual point (out of respect for him and everyone around), not request sources for everything he says. I do think /u/Sunhappy_DC had a point that this is more of a male sensitivity. Women are more prone to using mitigated speech and lower confidence. Offline, men irl rely on intimidation more. Online, they dont get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Video game and social media addictionyeah ofc. I'll prob look for it some time this weekend if no one else has already done it and can respond to this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectOnce again, It's not about a few terpers with reading comprehension. It's about characteristics endemic to the whole belief system. You must trust/respect BiggerD a WHOLE lot more than me, because you've made up entire paragraphs and arguments that weren't in his post. A lot of assumptions. Maybe you've read more from him than me, giving you more context. I haven't read much coming from him anyway. This is what I see and my accompanying responses if you're actually curious: Do you agree that tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Video game and social media addictionIn less than 10 yrs I'll be hearing coworkers talking about CGI chick scat. I bet quite a few in this sub already do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 09:21 PM |
| 4 | Video game and social media addictionI don't doubt it, but would love to see if there's harder evidence for this that I can parade. e.g. cross sectional analysis between /r/ForeverAlone , /r/Incels , and a bunch of gaming subreddits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectSays the guy who claims women don't understand what turns them on when it conflicts with what he wants to believe. What are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else? Instead of addressing that, you start talking about how terpers aren't given the benefit of the doubt. Why should I "address" that? Did you not read where I wrote directly to you that I agree that his specific example shows an rper (or rpers) lacking reading comprehension? I am making a separate point about NAWALT r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 08:35 PM |
| 4 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectBigD's post went way over your head. Just for the record. Either you ignored the points or you misunderstood it completely. Who knows? This is a perfect example of lack of charity. What do you think BiggerD was trying to say, for the record, and what makes you think I missed it? I'm not ignoring. I'm making a separate point. Read back to my prev comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 08:10 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectIf the aim is convince a truly neutral audience, debate can be useful. And yes, accuracy is needed for that. In a free forum such as this one, where there's no structure, the "debates" are just going to degrade because animosity grows out of lack of charity shown from both sides. Everyone gets annoyed at strawmen, obfuscation, and other uncooperative tactics. I doubt the efficacy/productivity of debates in general. It's also a bad habit/"skill" to take to friendships and SOs. I prefer entering w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What do the following statements say?I'm in support of discrimination based on sex because I'm heterosexual and enjoy being surrounded by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: An alternative choice to marriage and family.Nice. Could fit that under preferences or hedonism as groovy added. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectYou shouldn't trust "most rpers". This OP is identifying a reason for why "sides" are kept separate. I see rpers in TRP give each other enormous benefit of the doubt. Often, they're wrong for doing that and end up giving more charity to each other than they deserve. Why do strawmen exist? It can be issues with reading comprehension as with BiggerD's example/thread. It can be stupidity or trolling. However, if we were to ignore the morons, we can clearly see lack of charity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectNo, I didn't. I got BiggerD's point. I didn't disagree that there are many moronic rpers who lack reading comprehension. I don't care to speak for them. This is a separate point inspired by recent discussions. You are missing the point here. Forget Bigger's specific example. Obviously there will be rpers who lack reading comprehension. You bring up strawmen. The strawmen go in both directions and there's clearly a lack of charity being given to the other side when that happens. It can also be re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectIt'll help you or others understand some of the hypocrisy and other kinds of inconsistencies you are seeing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 05:39 PM |
| 5 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectIf we use me as an example, both of your interpretations aren't sufficient for me as they are written Both could work fine with further elaboration. That is what I do in my head on your behalf because I trust you as a mod and have known you long enough. I'd make charitable assumptions on your behalf to move on with the conversation to the main point, because more often "women are hypergamous" is used to support some other point rather than argued/elaborated in its own thread. If I discover later… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectYou can safely assume those men don't respect or trust you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 05:00 PM |
| 3 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectYour first paragraph is an example where you took liberties in your mind on my behalf. That's appreciated and endearing. As for your second paragraph, I agree with your opinion. However, it only seems to appear wrt "AWALT". People on both sides are taking it too seriously. It started off as a sarcastic retort to "NAWALT". It's similar to the feminist retort, #YesAllMen. They were simply tired of hearing "Not All Men Are Like That". It somehow got turned into heuristic that shouldn't be treated a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 04:50 PM |
| 4 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectIt's muddied by trolls and jokes. Do you see people saying "ALL men are stronger than ALL women"? The ones who say that are trolls. "AWALT" itself started off not even as a heuristic but as a sarcastic retort to "AWALT" because people were getting annoyed by that. There's always room for more precision. E.g. "Men are stronger than women" could be changed to "men are physically stronger than women". There's different levels of precision and also different levels of BoD (benefit of the doubt) give… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 04:02 PM |
| 5 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectI don't know what makes u/buartha blue. He's a communist who thinks men, except his own, should be locked in cages at the mercy of women. He's #teamwoman except those whores who try to steal his man. He especially dislikes rpers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 03:52 PM |
| 6 | Benefit of the doubt is given to people you trust and/or respectEvidence for the OP from my personal xp: One of the most successful bpers in getting me to change or reconsider some views is /u/buartha perceived benefit of the doubt being given; mutual respect arguments appear to go straight to the heart of the matter instead of being tied down by exceptional cases faster (and frankly, he's just smarter than most bpers and rpers.) Seriously, it's perceived benefit of the doubt. PPD would have been better off as "purple pill discussion" instead of "purple pill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 03:15 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: What do the following statements say?The complaints are mostly about NAWALT response. You can see it in those responses. They're essentially variations of "NAWALT". "Men have higher libido that women" --> "There are women though that have very high sex drives too." (Not ALL women have lower sex drives than ALL men!) If someone says, "Men are physically stronger than women" and he gets a contentious response to that, it's natural for him to assume he's getting opposition/quarrel to what is a relatively uncontroversial statement. Mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 02:35 PM |
| 6 | Discussion: An alternative choice to marriage and family.I didn't say you have to buy genetic legacy. You don't have to care about legacy in general. Do what you want. I said some men care about legacy. Part of care comes from faith and values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 03:49 AM |
| 6 | Discussion: An alternative choice to marriage and family.You don't understand faiths, values, preferences, etc? They don't have to be "logical". They're rational enough for me personally. What do nihilists live for? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 03:24 AM |
| 4 | Discussion: An alternative choice to marriage and family.Fine, but most families do not have that. I doubt you could describe your great great grandfathers lasting impact on the world. It doesn't matter to me if any descendants of mine remember me though. That's not part of my personal faiths and values. For people who care about legacy, marriage can matter. That's what you're dismissing from /u/madscientistlove 's comment. Right? So it matters little outside of family relationships Right. It was another example of where it can matter. Obv won't apply… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 02:45 AM |
| 9 | Discussion: An alternative choice to marriage and family.You know your great grandfathers' name? How about great great? Yes, I do. The family has a generation poem. Besides that, it's part of my personal faiths and values to care about my legacy to the world. Duh cause it's personal and you feel like they owe you children. Not really like outside of families. Right, and if I actually had grandparents and/or parents that had any inheritance to leave me, I'd likely care more. Thankfully, my parents are way poorer than me and have no control over me. Wel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 02:08 AM |
| 9 | Discussion: An alternative choice to marriage and family.Any "legacy" is dead after like 100 years anyways Depends on how much faith the man has in himself and in heritability. This one comes up a lot. I guess there's some merit to it, but I really don't think it's hard to go through life as an unwed man. It's not hard, but there's a big difference. For example, if I had multiple sons, I'm giving more inheritance to the ones giving me grandchildren, not the unwed ones who are only going to use it for themselves. True, no children. Biased perspective o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/17 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Is alphaness defined by sexual success or by possessing a certain set of traits?Alpha is a contextual term. TRPers conflate multiple different terms. When trpers use the ethological version that depends on status in a social hierarchy or standard (level of success/failure), they mean "alpha of the SMP". The SMP is the standard. A man who isn't successful sexually (involuntarily) is by definition not an alpha of TRP. The traits don't directly define the alpha. Success does. Those other traits are correlated to that success. They get discussed because people want to know if t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/17 09:33 PM |
| 4 | Mate Guarding, Is it for the insecure or the wise?Insecurity tells me something is lacking. There's something i need to deal with. It doesn't cripple me. Taken to the extreme, i could see it hurting me, but any feelings taken to the extreme could, potentially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 08:54 PM |
| 5 | Mate Guarding, Is it for the insecure or the wise?It's wise to be insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Which Hogwarts house would you fit into? (Is Hufflepuff the least wanted because it's too 'feminine'?)Lawyer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Which Hogwarts house would you fit into? (Is Hufflepuff the least wanted because it's too 'feminine'?)Snek and lyin' shady alliance. More cunning; more privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Which Hogwarts house would you fit into? (Is Hufflepuff the least wanted because it's too 'feminine'?)Old boys' clubs still need useful "outsiders". Other people who were part of the old boys' club but chose to spend time networking with the outside. I'm transnational. They don't have to follow the exact same rules as national elite. I'll be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Which Hogwarts house would you fit into? (Is Hufflepuff the least wanted because it's too 'feminine'?)It makes sense to network with outsiders too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Which Hogwarts house would you fit into? (Is Hufflepuff the least wanted because it's too 'feminine'?)I'll network with them. If they're as supposedly practical as they think they are, they'll have friends in other houses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Which Hogwarts house would you fit into? (Is Hufflepuff the least wanted because it's too 'feminine'?)The test suggested I go to Slytherin first, second choice being Gryffindor. IIRC the sorting hat is just a suggestion, so I'd reject the hat and go with Gryffindor or some other team. It makes no sense to join a house that everyone else is suspicious of. That doesn't sound practical, cunning, or ambitious at all. EDIT: On second thought, after minimal convincing, I'm changing answer to Ravenclaw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/17 01:04 AM |
| 3 | Race that dates outside their race the mostDude I don't know who you are listening to. From what I've read from OKC and other dating stats and surveys black women are the most loyal group of women to black men. More so than other women to the men of their own respective races. | /r/askTRP | 25/06/17 03:12 AM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansHow can you say that honestly when your previous post clearly demonstrated a lack of understanding of the concept of MV? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Help me prove that men are the more disposable genderNope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 02:03 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansNo. I guess you dont understand the concept of market value. In your case, it's ignorance, not emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 07:29 AM |
| 2 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?That's a bit too much for you. I'll take your cake and eat it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 12:22 AM |
| 3 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?Individualized goals that don't conflict with others? You wouldn't even come up with 100 different goals before running into one or more that conflicts with others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 12:06 AM |
| 7 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?Individualized goals? No one jealous of the possessions of another? That's fantasy land to me. Doesn't reflect human nature. And that's less competition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:53 PM |
| 6 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?Why did you bring up competition then? Competition will create winners and losers. Do you think it should be done away with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:47 PM |
| 9 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?competition drives success sure. But it creates losers. When you have competition/conflict, you're going to end up with both winners and losers. That's inequality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:36 PM |
| 12 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?If women didn't exist, what would stop men from succeeding? Other men. Bob has 500 cows' worth of meat and a Bugatti. Why can't I have that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:23 PM |
| 2 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?When people talk about equality, they're talking about equal opportunities. Yes. It sounds better. Sounds less controversial. Sounds "fair". But what ends up happening is they point to inequality of outcome as their examples of how there isn't any equality of opportunity. Why? Because it's simple to show outcomes. Just look at the numbers. Inequality of opportunity is unfalsifiable. It's extremely difficult to show, relative to outcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:22 PM |
| 14 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?Everyone drives inequality to some degree. Everyone is responsible. This includes the losers, by staying losers. A lot of them had the opportunities, despite unfairness. If you want to blame a single person or group for inequality, then I'll take responsibility. Women don't drive inequality. I do. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:18 PM |
| 7 | How can women demand equality when they are the biggest drivers of inequality?Whenever someone demands equality, just assume they're actually demanding equality of outcome. Equality of outcome for the most part is simple to check statistically. Equality of opportunity is unfalsifiable. It's impossible to prove. No matter what the situation is, I'll be able to find some way to complain that some person or another was disadvantaged. Yes, Albert and Bob ended up at the same place, but Albert had to work waaay harder for it. It's not fair to people like Albert. They have less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 11:13 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansThe fun never stops for a systematizer. I don't know about these other people who are losing their mental health over it, whether they be Rp, blackpill , or bp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Help me prove that men are the more disposable genderLol Thanks for catch Edited | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 06:17 PM |
| 10 | Why are women in Japan unhappier despite the rates of rape being much lower?wtf are you talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 04:46 PM |
| 7 | Help me prove that men are the more disposable genderMale disposability is historic. You have twice as many women in your ancestral tree as men. https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/the-missing-men-in-your-family-tree/ During human pop bottlenecks (harshest times), it's demes that have more women than men which succeed: https://evolutionistx.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/caqilhrucaang8z-1.png You have a tribe with 100 men and 30 women? It's fucked for multiple generations. You have a tribe with 100 women and 30 men? It'll bounce back in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 04:42 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansHouses aren't identical. Services are not identical. One company will give you vastly different quality of service than another. Tech contractors have great depth and breadth to their variability. Hookers have great depth and breadth to their variability. And yet they all guess the market value of what they provide. A lot of us are also somehow able to tell whether they're overcharging or undercharging over time. Why? Because we have an abstract idea of an objective market value that exists. We … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 04:21 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansyes. Height is a good one. Freakonomics had early example of it where they correlated height and income. IIRC OKC had some state about height and males' success. It's not even necessary how OTHER people perceive height but how much it damages their self esteem. E.g. Boys that grew up short but ended up tall still ended up with similar disadvantages; the theory is that they carried trauma from growing up short with lower self esteem. I think on avg though, men take these stats less personally. Ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 06:19 AM |
| 2 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansMy question is, how accurate can any of this be You'll probably never get satisfactory amount of accuracy for any type of "market value". I use all sorts of heuristics to estimate market values of everything ranging from houses, to stocks, to even commodities I consume. I always wish i had more accurate real time estimations of true market values. I'd be a billionaire! and why even do it in the first place? Because it's a technically correct term for something conceptually objective. Why should … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 05:02 AM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansThere was actually a series of studies done by a psychologist named Simon Baren-Cohen about something called "empathizing systemizing theory". Some of the data collected concluded that, the less empathy an individual had, the more they had a tendency to systemize. Autism and Asperger's were on the extreme end of systematization, and usually when an individual is on the extreme end of systemizing will have a generally tendency to apply system's to humans in a cold or detached way. I took that tes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 04:58 AM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansMost immediate one that comes to mind is n-count. It's a simpler one. I dont actually agree with much of what rpers say about n-count, tbh, but there's still an auto-rejection of even the attempt at systematization and discussion by many (not just bpers on this one). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 04:43 AM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansI think for many people the line is crossed once numbers come into the picture. They have an aversion to putting numbers on humans. Psych doesn't make some people think of humans as chattel. econblog arguments I've read suggest there may be something political going on as well wrt economics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 01:57 AM |
| 2 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansIt's doesn't have to be super accurate. How do some prostitues deem themselves worth more than others in terms of the sex they provide? Rolling a dice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 12:46 AM |
| 2 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansAlso you have to understand here and on TRP people use SMV all the time to simply mean "sexual attractiveness," so it does get confusing. I fully admit most rpers do that, except apparently the ones responding here. But our system for that is something we've accounted for: caselaw. Yes. And same thing we can say about most objections to SMP models (subjectivity, incomputability, etc). They're supposed to be accounted for in even basic economics. The very concept of "market value" handles it. It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/17 12:32 AM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansThis thread didn't need any more controversy. It's already controversial enough to just claim that humans can be systematized. God forgive me for saying that in my observation rpers are slightly more OK with it and bpers less ok with it IME. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 11:53 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansWell, I don't understand all their reasons for rejecting systematization of humans. I've mostly made a couple guesses. That's why I'm asking for ideas (and only got a lot more evidence in the responses of my observations). Midnightvulpine is the only one that has moved past even arguing about SMV specifically. He admitted that part of it is visceral, and concerns it's "unhealthy" for some people to focus on such things. I don't even disagree. Look at how many neurotics here give up after just th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 11:27 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humanssystematisation of human behavior in all but very specific microcosms is guaranteed to be wildly inaccurate. Inaccurate, but used anyway. As I said, we're estimating what market value is. No one is accurate enough for my personal preference, ofc. I can judge your value as a potential software engineer for my specific company but that's where my ability to judge you with any degree of accuracy begins and ends. Most ppl just look at market rates and adjust up and down from there. Market values are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 11:24 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansIMO, part of the problem with your phrasing is a lack of benefit of the doubt that'll be given to you. The topic is polarizing and people who don't like what you're saying will demand precision in your language. Attractiveness is in fact subjective and not the exact same thing as SMV. Just like what makes a "good house" is subjective. A market value for that house might reflect or be correlated to how "good" a house it is (to God, lol), it might not. A lot of ppl don't understand market value an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 11:21 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humans... not politically correct by the standards of the alt-right. Ok, so it's political too. Thanks for bringing that up. Because a lot of other people have applied these concepts: incorrectly or with less nuance politically (to attack the left, from the alt-right) there's an instinctive suspicion from bpers driving the objection/rejection of concepts like SMP/SMV or other attempts at systematization. Yeah I agree. Great point. No comment on the rest though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 11:09 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansThe argument always ends there though, at "humans are too complex". Why? I ask for why it can't be applied to humans, since economics itself is modeling human interactions on a mass scale, the only responses I get are "it's too complex!" I've never seen such reaction for any other field that people aren't invested in. I don't see nonmathematicians rejecting attempts at modeling by saying, "it's too complex!" when they clearly lack math backgrounds. I don't see nonphysicists saying "we can't do t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 11:00 PM |
| 1 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansI just don't think not automatically accepting that for humans means someone is emotionally reacting Right. It's not a given that people are just emotionally reacting. it's just one factor i've observed. There are other factors like ignorance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:52 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansNot yesterday's argument, but many over the years have shown themselves to have visceral objections to systematization discussion. Please see midnightvulpine's honest response. That is just one of many. And frankly, when i see goalposts being shifted a lot, I suspect something more going on than rational objection. and some objections to the idea that SMV is truly quantifiable since there's no perfect way to measure it (i.e. it changes with market forces, it isn't static, it is what the market w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:47 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansI agree. Without going into examples, IME, what you say is accurate even for a sizable subset of rpers. I've come to realize over time that I gave the average rper too much credit. A lot of them can't stay detached from discussions. They take a lot of these discussions too personally. I'm satisfied enough to hear though that you accept there's an emotional/visceral rejection rather than a rational one. I don't believe applying them to people is healthy. It's the sort of thing that leads down bad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:37 PM |
| 5 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansYou guys keep failing to prove it - don't you have any shame? There's an entire Wal-Mart beyond the meats. Shame for what? Attempting to apply a model to human relations? What am I failing to prove and why do you want me to prove an economic model? They're unfalsifiable. None of this is hard science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:21 PM |
| 2 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansYes, but you don't randomly guess. In an abstract way, you apply heuristics to estimate market value (current and predicting future), do you not? (I.e. You make somewhat smart guesses as to what may bring you more value in the future.) No one has perfect answers, people guess what the right answer will be, especially when it comes to markets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:12 PM |
| 2 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansObvious factor: There's an emotional or subconscious distaste towards treating human like chattel. As if we're buying/selling live humans on a market. There's a visceral response and comparison. Generally there's less resistance when I talk about labour markets and describe estimating market value of services. This allows people to easily disassociate "market value" from whatever god-given personal/holistic value they're thinking of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:05 PM |
| 5 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansBPillers argument that relationships are complex just means that what is true on average is not likely to be true for any one individual. You can come to conclusions about the set as a whole, but you can't apply this conclusion to each element of the set. Yes. That's a given. People who think market value estimations are accurate are wrong. People overprice and underprice goods and services all the time. There's no fast and easy system. However, there is a strong objection to even the attempt at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 10:01 PM |
| 2 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansIt's a service, why else? Do you really think it's a service detached from the person that's offering the service? I don't even know what this thread is about anymore, honestly. Thanks for stopping by and demonstrating what I was talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:37 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansWhy do prostitutes have an hourly rate at all? How do some prostitutes dare say "I should be charging more!" Sex is so special. What are people trying to estimate? There should be nothing to estimate if market value of sex doesn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:32 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansBook values are not market value. They're every bit an estimation as market price. It's the same way I can rate someone HB9, but it's just a personal appraisal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:31 PM |
| 4 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansDo you invest? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:24 PM |
| 8 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansIf I say a girl is a 5/10 and another guy say she's a 7/10, who's right? Say I claim that my house is 2,000,000 USD in value. Some other guy says it's 1,950,000 USD. Who is right?! Does this mean market values for houses don't exist? Why would I reject a system, I use them all day and every day. You can make a system out of anything, but human interaction is so complicated, good luck making an accurate one. So what? Market values are inherently impossible to calculate perfectly right now (anyone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:22 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansEconomics systems aren't perfect. They're not even falsifiable. Not scientific. No one gets up in arms about economics in general. No one gets up in arms over the attempt to systematize the calculation/estimation of market values in general, even though it's technically impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:19 PM |
| 3 | BP rejection of the systematization of humansIt isn't because it's an observation of a tendency. You're not going to change my mind on what I've observed. I'm asking for explanations of why I see this tendency. AtlasB's link is a CMV. She uses "distaste of systematization" as the reason for why there is distaste for TRP. "Distaste for systematization" itself is not what's being challenged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 09:14 PM |
| 11 | Why are women not inferior?What does that have to do with what I've said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 08:36 PM |
| 10 | Why are women not inferior?Truly pillars of civilization | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 07:44 PM |
| 14 | Why are women not inferior?Women are superior overall, on average wrt social matters. Social awareness, adaptability, and control. Physically, they have slightly better immune system, longer life span, wider peripheral vision, better color vision, just to name a few. Biologically it's safer to be born a woman even if we discount life expectancy as they have lower phenotypal variation and are more likely on avg to have genetic legacy. This is just what I had time for and what came to mind immediately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Girl texting all the time?So she's 100 miles removed from civilization. Makes sense. Yeah she sounds like she has many different things lowering her SMV, not just looks but location. It's normally the girl with higher smv and getting attention from guys. You're just not used to the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Girl texting all the time?Are you the one living in an area with higher urban density? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/17 03:14 PM |
| 2 | How does society push for the "Women are wonderful" narrative?Example of how I inadvertently push pro-female, WaW bias: I assume men are more physically violent and more capable of damage. They also have higher phenotypal variation. They are riskier individuals to me. I also assume women can't possibly hurt me. A woman that can physically hurt me without a gun would be a monster of a woman. It's not that I assume women are angels. I assume they are weaker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/17 11:38 PM |
| 3 | Privilege Test: Check Your Privilege Within!One test tells me I'm underprivileged (approx 40). The second test tells me I'm privileged (100+). The checkmyprivilege test seems like a variant of the one I posted long ago, where I scored over 200. Somehow, I'm down to around 100 now. Wtf happened to my privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/17 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you Consider Dante Nero of the Beige Philip Show to be a good example of an alpha male?The show was more frequently mentioned over a couple years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/17 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you Consider Dante Nero of the Beige Philip Show to be a good example of an alpha male?Sure he is. He's dominant. I can see the rationale for calling him insecure, but the people who say this never challenge him. They aren't telling this to his face. They're talking behind his back about how insecure he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/17 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Are you ugly?6 months is the most meh on that list for incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/17 04:39 AM |
| 2 | Bro jobs - straight men who have sex with other menYes. That a lot of straight males are ashamed of being seen as gay and that a lot of people like you use that to your advantage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/17 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Bro jobs - straight men who have sex with other menAct of trust between members of secret societies. How is this not obvious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/17 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Bro jobs - straight men who have sex with other menIt's shameful to straight men. Letting others see you in compromising situations is an act of trust. Making people go through with that is an act of power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/17 01:05 AM |
| 4 | Are you ugly?"Women care about 5 of the Six Sixes." Confirmed by the trusted Ambassador ArthurMacArthur. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/17 12:57 AM |
| 2 | Are you ugly?Six sixes. 6 ft, 6 figure, 6 inch, 6 pack abs, 6 hundred horsepower, 6 months since last relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/17 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What do you think someone who’s maxed himself out and still isn’t getting any attention from women is doing wrong?yeah I don't get it either. But I don't have high inhibitions either. If I felt ugly in a way that fitness couldn't help, I'd just get surgery. I don't fear getting cut, getting tattoos, or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/17 03:24 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What do you think someone who’s maxed himself out and still isn’t getting any attention from women is doing wrong?Didn't see the entire thing. I made out a snake and dagger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/17 02:26 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: What do you think someone who’s maxed himself out and still isn’t getting any attention from women is doing wrong?The fat SMV 1.5 I talked about a few weeks ago (and I got confirmation from witz on my valuation of him) had an intimidating tattoo on one of his arms. That is precisely why he was married to someone five points above him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/17 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Introducing X count, a superior metric to N countBesides that, this X count is just N minus 1 and is subjective. She's X=0 to you, but X=1 to everyone else. The main purpose is to contribute to subjective value to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/17 06:00 AM |
| 4 | Introducing X count, a superior metric to N count"X count" sounds bad because it reminds me of X-chromosome. I propose Y count, because women don't count towards n-count. Only men count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/17 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you think a majority of prostitutes in the West are "operated" by a person who could fairly be described as a pimp? What percentage, would you say, have pimps?I doubt the accuracy of these articles for what we are discussing. Part of the problem is that for a lot of people, pimp specifically means an abusing or controlling male. They assume these whores have no choice. I'd like to know how many of these women are talking about female managers who end up being interpreted as "pimps" by the police. Or how many of them lie to the authorities. I have actually heard hoes telling each other what to do when busted by police. They'll often blame a non-existen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/17 07:37 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, do you find ripped/handsome male gorillas sexy? (Bestiality is obviously gross, but bear with me here. There's an interesting article about it.)They do. I found out the hard way from degenerates on irc. There's a whole subreddit full of them (clopclop, nsfw) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/17 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, do you find ripped/handsome male gorillas sexy? (Bestiality is obviously gross, but bear with me here. There's an interesting article about it.)She's referring to "bronies". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/17 01:10 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Would you date a man who suffered from Lycanthropy?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/17 06:27 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Would you date a man who suffered from Lycanthropy?Schedule? As in predictable? What a boring beta. He wouldn't last with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/17 01:13 AM |
| 3 | Fun Discussion to Release Some of the TensionClever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Why Do You Think Vili Fualaau is separating from Mary Kay Letourneau?I'm not commenting on why he wants a separation now. especially since he clearly didn't marry her for her good looks to begin with. I'm saying she was attractive enough back then from early 30s to early 40s. You asked what could have changed in just 13 yrs. A lot can change in 13 yrs, and one major contributor factor of many is menopause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 07:14 PM |
| 4 | Why Do You Think Vili Fualaau is separating from Mary Kay Letourneau?You don't think there's a difference between early 40s and mid 50s? Menopause is a second wall... 55 is post-menopause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 07:00 PM |
| 5 | Why Do You Think Vili Fualaau is separating from Mary Kay Letourneau?He probably was attracted to her. She was a hot teacher back then and willing to fuck him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 06:48 PM |
| 2 | Assuming there were no laws and no social restrictions what would your own personal age limit be for dating/sex?If there were no laws and no social restrictions, I wouldn't even ask age unless I was interested in having kids with this chick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 05:07 PM |
| 3 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenI'm using smurfy's words, figgy. Investing in a business.. getting it off the ground. Abstract return on investment is getting someone out of your hair or having a happy wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenI could see that. Just in case though, can you elaborate your thoughts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenYeah. i get that. A coworker of mine is an independent contractor and makes 400k+. His wife doesn't make as much, but that's not important. She's the chairwoman of an HMO. She could have higher income than him. She has some flexibility to set her own income, but it's unnecessary. He says he married up, but that has more to do with prestige/competition/caste. I'd still say this is rarer from guys than from women. Most boys aren't expected to be carried by girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenBeta fuck a beta buck. Rope in a high income male. As this thread clearly proves without a doubt, high income men don't care about your income, after all. I'll root for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:07 PM |
| 5 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenYeah, class matters to some degree. I think we are all on the same page. OP even has this, "As long as she is more or less the same education or social status, they could care less what she does for work." Class includes family wealth. I just don't see her income mattering to the man if he's already "high earning". Actually high earning enough (400k+, doesn't worry about MC concerns wrt house, raising kids, retirement, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:05 PM |
| 9 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenThat's the point. Men don't care if a woman is "high earning" (80k-130k) when money isn't an issue for them. When they're merely "above working class" doing slightly above average whitecollar work, money still matters for their middle class values and life styles (buying a house, saving for retirement, raising kids without handicapping them vs other middle class ppl). It's when money stops being a necessity and becomes more a matter of self-actualization and pride (e.g. the 400k+ level), we'll s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:01 PM |
| 5 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenThat's a high earner investing in his wife's business. I wouldn't mind investing in a wife either, But were those women high earners before that? Did they need to be for the husbands to marry them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 08:53 PM |
| 9 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenLet's say over 80k in a medium city, 100-130k in a major metropolis. That's what I expected. IME, people earning that amount tend to get worried that they might not have enough to: buy a place of their own. raise children. (Child care, education, computers/phone/toys/instruments, lessons, extracurriculars, trips, etc) save enough for retirement. Don't get me wrong, 100k-130k is well above average, but have you seen real estate in hot markets? There's also a ton of uncertainty wrt retirement and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 08:43 PM |
| 4 | CMV: High earning men don't want SAHW/SAHM, they want high earning womenWhat do you mean by "high earning men"? It's hard for us to argue when we don't have numbers for what you're talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Talent you fall in love with?Consider it part of the list then. It has some correlation with intelligence and I suppose I don't mind matching wits with a partner. It sort of falls under "gaming" for me though. I used to enjoy more, now it's mostly just something to talk about and enjoy with a friend. I mostly don't care about gaming for myself. It's a convenient way to keep in touch with busy people who need an excuse to relax. For an SO, it's cheap entertainment she can keep herself busy with. It's not significantly more f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 06:23 PM |
| 3 | Talent you fall in love with?I'd never "fall in love with" a single talent. That being said, I got some inspiration from others' answers. dancing: Good body. The problem with this is that if she's actually good, she'll have other male partners. gaming: She can keep herself busy gaming, physically isolated, and having fun for all I care. singing: Sentimental reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Talent you fall in love with?Oh, pro is sort of rare anyway. Amateur competitive is already competitive. I'm not sure many if many ppl make a full living off it to be called "pros". Unless you just mean high level competitive. Like Gold, prechamp, or champ levels. I guess you can be professional in the sense that you can teach. One of my friends is champ level and gets income by teaching. Not much at all, but she qualifies as pro. Her and her own instructors are basically UMC+ so they don't actually have to fully support th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Talent you fall in love with?From the male POV, competitive female dancers always have great bodies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?You're right to ask for clarity. I thought I made myself clear when I said, "It doesn't mean I'm always accurate, it just means I make honest effort being objective, keeping personal feels out of it." I am using a personal/subjective standard. I prefer fiat-drok, for example, but until either of us take over the world, there will always be heathens who use other scales. However, the intention is to keep personal emotional biases out. This is different from people who aren't even able to try and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?Nah. Men are just slightly more objective and impersonal than women and expected to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?There are people in this very thread who talk about how hard it is for them to judge their own partners, even while having no problems assigning arbitrary numbers to other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?Likelihood of a girl being married off or at least LTR'd. It's much more difficult to guess than SMV. Keyword: guess. It's a lot more influenced by beta concerns (loyalty, fertility, personality, maayyybe class, etc) than SMV, which is more physical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?Relationship market value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 06:08 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?Of course. The longer I am with someone, the more PERSONAL value they have to me. It's sort of like sunken costs. I spent time with this person. I have history with them. It would take time to build something similar if i started anew. Frankly, anyone I'm with for an extended period of time while maintaining my loyalty to them becomes a 10 to me personally even if they have 5-6 SMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 01:04 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: Can you rate your SO?Does anyone else experience this, or do you find it easy to determine your SO's SMV? I don't have problems being impersonal. It doesn't mean I'm always accurate, it just means I make honest effort being objective, keeping personal feels out of it. She's SMV 7 (2 standard deviations above the mean) and RMV 7. That's around top 2%. Has lots of traits belonging to desired demographics. Early 20s, attractive face (looks worse in 2d/photos though), avg height, 100 lbs or less, etc. Market value is ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?yeah figgy, that's part of the brain diagram alongside the secret mothering instinct. Though i liked the latter more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/17 05:59 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?Hey look, another INTP. I just explained it to you and haikufun. INTP are basically post-modernists. Their stereotype is to keep questioning things and never settle. That's great and all, but can be frustrating when some ppl, especially ENTJ, want to move on. I'd guess that it happens less offline because INTP/INFP are generally more meek and shy offline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/17 01:19 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?Opposing for the sake of opposing. INTP are the prototypical post-modernist. Out to destroy all our painfully crafted models of reality. You know what's interesting? I happen to like most INxPs, including INTPs, despite how frustrating they can be to talk with online. This doesn't just apply to me, but apparently other ENTJs: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/13/03/a1/1303a1988541e3026f3dae1664a2a3b0.jpg I don't doubt your husband adores you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/17 12:22 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?Being able to hold your own in an argument means you're intelligent. That has a purpose. ENTJs don't like arguing for the sake of argument. ENTPs on the other hand actually like arguing just for the sake of arguing. The ENTP Exemplar provided me a perfect example when he demonstrated disappointment one time that he couldn't disagree with me. He was trying so hard to come up with any bs reason to disagree. It confused me. Isn't it good that we're in agreement? Why would you oppose what is right f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/17 12:11 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?interesting how it plays out. It's the opposite for ENTJ. Offline, no one bothers arguing with you. They just accept things you say. All is good. Online, there's no authority, no intimidation, no ethos. People keep opposing you. It's frustrating, but you tolerate it because you care about people and you're trying to save them from being wrong due to your messiah complex and/or secret maternal instinct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/17 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?*re-reads comment* Fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/17 10:48 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, what kind of male personality turns you on?Lol sassy my ass. ENTJs don't like arguing. They like ending arguments. Prolonged arguments just feel like defiance and/or stubbornness. "Why aren't you cooperating? There's no reason to oppose me." You're thinking of ENTPs. THOSE fuckers like arguing. Look at /u/TheGreasyPole for an ENTP exemplar. He's even sassy about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/17 10:37 PM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?You missed the rest of my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/17 04:07 AM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?Not relating is not empathizing. Close enough. Not caring to me can also mean that we don't feel these issues are worth our time fixing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?I said women can empathize, it's just hard because they can't relate to the male experience. Something being hard doesn't mean it's impossible. Good. Then we're in alignment, because I said from the start that some women can care about men's issues. Some women can empathize. I just disagree on the degree. "Very capable"? As in easy for women or that a majority will bother? I doubt it. There will always been exceptions to such rules, but it's not natural for women to empathize with or care about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 09:17 PM |
| 17 | There's no such thing as "average."The problem is a lack of precision. Average has multiple definitions. When Camp 1 talks about the average man, they'll be referring to a a sort of "median man". Another way to phrase their intended meaning is, "the majority of men struggle to get satisfactory amount of sex." When Camp 2 return, they'll talk about the "mode man". AKA "The most common type of man." They'll even post pictures of what they consider "the average man". The reason why this is different from the median man is because th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 09:04 PM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?What are some examples of male insecurities? Res ipsa loquitur. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?You don't have to empathize with someone to care about them. I take it you're giving up on your latest argument quickly then: "However, I would argue women can empathize too." I don't relate to homeless people, but I always feel bad for them. This is part of my original point. You can feel bad for "homeless people", but you might not necessarily care about certain "homeless problems". Look again at the title of your post. You can care about men, but you might not necessarily care about "men's pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?If you get out of the internet and American college circlejerk Cut your bullshit with me. I said "unhealthy", not "unhealthy masculinity". Nowhere in "They're described as unhealthy or part of toxic masculinity" are you getting "unhealthy masculinity". People dismiss normal male pride/ego and insecurities as "unhealthy". I agree most people don't use technical/precise terms offline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?They don't empathize and don't care. You even implicitly agreed. Here is your own comment: Most men can't empathize with women either, because they're not women. Emphasis mine. "Either", meaning you agree with this statement: "Most women won't empathize with men, because they're not men." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?I doubt most women have even heard of the term "toxic masculinity", why do you think feminism represents all women? Most women are not feminist activists and haven't read feminist theory. "Toxic masculinity" is brought up here in ppd. You'll hear "unhealthy" more often offline. Most men can't empathize with women either, because they're not women. I agree. I bring up empathy because I am assuming it's a major factor in getting ppl to understand and care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 06:25 PM |
| 5 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?Your question was about "men's problems", not just "caring about men". How people interpret that will be different. If you mean generic human problems that men have, then women are obviously capable of caring to some degree. If you're talking about male-specific problems like male ego and insecurities then no. Women aren't men and didn't grow up having the same concerns, so most women won't naturally empathize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 05:40 PM |
| 8 | Do you generally accept that there are some women who care about men's problems?Your title is a lot weaker than the body of your post. You ask if there are "some" women who care. Some do. In the body, you express that "women are very capable". Women can try to care, but I doubt their empathy. For the most part, women don't care for masculine pride or insecurities. They're described as unhealthy or part of toxic masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Men, how does it make you feel to know that most women prefer an attractive man to a "good man"Caretaker,polite,feminist... all words and even more that are used to describe "good men". If that's what it takes to be a "good man", then I feel nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Why do men have a lot of blowback when complaining about being single and women get unconditional support?I implied that much in my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 02:31 AM |
| 4 | Why do men have a lot of blowback when complaining about being single and women get unconditional support?And I say men, because it only happens to men. There is a post at the top of /r/blackladies where a woman complained about being single. She was met with love and support. I decided to chime in with a "You are not entitled" comment, and was banned. The OP said explicitly that her post was just to vent. She's mostly just getting support. All of that is stereotypically feminine behaviour. Guys can engage in feminine behaviour too. It's just going to be less common and probably not received as well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/17 01:02 AM |
| 1 | What is the end-point of a man who seeks a healthy (TM) relationship?I didn't state what I would not want. That's your own interpretation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/17 08:57 AM |
| 1 | What is the end-point of a man who seeks a healthy (TM) relationship?Yeah. It's "unhealthy" like the OP said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/17 05:45 AM |
| 4 | On red pill and loveAge. I'd have to compare age of women initiating divorces vs age of women sticking around for husbands dying of brain cancer. I suspect the latter are older. Another factor I'm considering is that women generally appear to give more sympathy to the weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/17 05:31 AM |
| 2 | On red pill and loveI posit that part of this discrepancy comes from the financial imbalance and SMV declining as we age. Women leaving husbands have less options both financially and romantically. Men have and have had more power to leave women while still having realistically happy retirement (eg hoes and blow). It would be interesting to see what would happen if we factored out breadwinning and age. I'd bet on the discrepancy shrinking if not disappearing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/17 02:37 AM |
| 1 | What is the end-point of a man who seeks a healthy (TM) relationship?No. You're twisting my words into the most extreme version. Unrelated and out of curiosity: Are you a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/17 12:28 AM |
| 2 | What is the end-point of a man who seeks a healthy (TM) relationship?That would be fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 02:11 PM |
| 1 | What is the end-point of a man who seeks a healthy (TM) relationship?The extreme endpoint if all relationships were "healthy" would be men who were either: cads who could rotate women around without feeling too attached to specific women pussyfooted men who are too afraid to voice their desires (or "insecurities") This isn't scientific, it's just something I believe because, frankly, the most secure I feel wrt relationships is when I don't care enough if a woman left me. She's replaceable. A woman I feel completely "secure" about being away from my side for too l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 02:07 PM |
| 2 | Why is it a problem if men can't get casual sex?We fuck a lot. I don't care about your personal sex life. You didn't have to take my comment personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 12:24 PM |
| 0 | Why is it a problem if men can't get casual sex?Sure, for most people. Especially since women and men with low sex drives put together would outnumber the rest. But it's certainly not an absolute necessity to survive. Besides, most people can throw away their dignity and beg for mercy from friends and relatives for some shelter. Dignity isn't a necessity for survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 12:20 PM |
| 3 | Why is it a problem if men can't get casual sex?I agree with you in spirit but because I'm a pedant who has a gripe against American high school math teachers... median is a type of average. And although they get conflated, "arithmetic mean" is just another type of average but the most commonly referred to average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 12:17 PM |
| 0 | Why is it a problem if men can't get casual sex?who said anything about dying? I've lived without a home of my own and felt unsafe. I'm still alive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 12:08 PM |
| 4 | Why is it a problem if men can't get casual sex?It's not an absolute need to survive. It's an extremely important want though. That being said, I don't think safety and shelter are absolute needs to survive either. It's just an extremely important want, more so for women than men. You shouldn't have to give a shit about this female-favoured want of women who don't give a shit about your male-favoured wants like sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 11:32 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Besides "love" why would a man get married (in the USA)?Aren't there economic and legal benefits to being married in the US? There's a "marriage penalty" for dual high income couples. It incentivizes one of them to become a stay at home parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/17 11:03 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The male sex drive can be a problem to women and to society.Female power's next to fake Pity's wasted for my sake Keep me at arms' length You're a tenth my strength I'll leave ashes in my wake | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/17 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What was your last nervous breakdown, freakout, or awkward moment brought about by sex and gender issues?Why aren't you in the IRC yet? Come visit us. It's in the sidebar of this subreddit under "Place of Interest". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What was your last nervous breakdown, freakout, or awkward moment brought about by sex and gender issues?Yes. Lol why the shock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 01:12 AM |
| 14 | Q4All: What was your last nervous breakdown, freakout, or awkward moment brought about by sex and gender issues?I saw the BIGGEST FUCKING SMV difference within a couple at a wedding last night. Never saw something that extreme. This guy was a 1.5- on the fiat-drok scale, and the girl was 6.5 (a bit beyond just "noticeably above average"). He was the FATTEST Asian I've seen in my life. He had manboobs front... and back. He was a baby-faced, pug-nosed 干您妈的 toon with psoriasis spreading from his neck to his face. He came to a wedding, where everyone was dressed up, like a beach-ball wearing track pants and C… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Question4Men: Have you ever been jealous of a partner because of a success they had in life?Women aren't legit competition to me. I've not met a single woman that has been better than me on every single metric I care about. She can be make more money than me and I'd still feel like she'd need/want me for some other reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/17 07:15 PM |
| 1 | The childish man.To add to this, the number of 'good' men who are stable in a good career with 30-35 year old girlfriends and dont want kids having 'happy accidents' is staggering. I believe you, but I'd like to know where you are getting this. Is it personal experience or from something you've read online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/17 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4RFeminism and Feminism in general: please explain why some of you think falsely accusing a men of rape does not ruin his life.That's not the best comparison. Bpers have used lightning strikes before. The math is off, as I showed here and had bpers agreeing: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/1um64z/you_are_32x_more_likely_to_be_killed_by_lightning/cejjirz/ Note also that while being hit be lightning is extremely rare, people still take precautionary moves to avoid it. They won't play golf under a thunderstorm, for example. Similarly, even if false rape accusations are unlikely (not nearly as rare as lightnin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/17 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Options are not the same as realistic potential decisions to be madeToo long; didn't read. "Give me a TL;DR" means "give me a summary so i don't have to read the entire thing". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/17 02:53 AM |
| 2 | Options are not the same as realistic potential decisions to be madeTake a look at the paradox of value. Random males are like water. Water is higher value when you have precious little of it. Similarly, random males are useless when you have them in abundance. When a girl has NO males showing interest in her, it can be a signal to the girl that she's unwanted. It can be a blow to her self esteem, even if she didn't want the sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/17 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Competition, testosterone, IQ and equalityPullups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/17 05:05 AM |
| 3 | Do we think too differently to ever understand one another?Semantic disputes are the worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/17 12:46 AM |
| 7 | The other side of the hypergamy coin: opportunityYes. This is something I've mentioned myself. Perfect example is socioeconomic hypergamy. It's a statistical likelihood and expected, esp when men make more money on avg. How else would things work mathematically? I've shown articles/studies and talked about this myself, demonstrating that women's marital SES mobility is a counter to men's occupational SES mobility. That being said, the likelihood and expectations prob feedback and in turn make women feel out of place when they dont fit the norm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/17 12:01 AM |
| 1 | [Survey] How many of your Families are Still Together and what's your Pill Type?30-40 yrs approx. Red. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themWomen feel sorry for low beta males all the time. Doesn't necessarily mean they see them as romantic prospects. And frankly, I don't think most twiggy nerds or big chubby guys will be aggressive or competitive in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themLet's run a quick thought experiment. The beta man breaks the terrible man's legs. He makes the terrible alpha cry and look like a little bitch. Are women more likely to be attracted to the terrible man now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themTo beat someone who has power over you means to end his power over you. Slapping a God and cowering is not the same. We're talking full blown theomachy and theocide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 11:56 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.You heard her, ladies. Yoga pants are NOT revealing. No need to be shy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themLeave your personal feelings out of it. People can hate on an abusive pimp all they want. Subjectively, he's the worst person to everyone there. However, it's undeniable that he holds power not just over a helpless whore but over the crowd. People clearly disapprove of his actions, but can't/wont do anything about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 10:20 PM |
| 4 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themSure. But to make it more precise: Contentious types will usually succeed if they are unchallenged. If they are challenged, they need to have the power and ability to back up their contentiousness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 09:38 PM |
| 6 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themThis isn't prescriptive. I'm not telling you what to do. This is descriptive. I'm explaining a factor for why assholes are perceived as alpha. It doesn't mean you have to be an asshole. It also doesn't mean you have to challenge assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themThe point is to factorize. Get into detail why exactly being a dick might actually make someone more respected or attractive. Discussing the various factors that contribute to this rather than just saying flat out with no nuance "being a dick is attractive." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themYes and if I was physically weaker than that pimp or if guns were common in that country, I might have been in trouble or even lost. That pimp could have went on his merry little way curbstomping a whore and staying socially dominant. Challenging helps but ofc, like I said, winning is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 08:41 PM |
| 7 | Dicks are perceived as alpha is because people dont check themAs a corollary, it makes less sense to blame women for rewarding brutes. They're just not rewarding meek males. IME, brutes get more success in lower class socioeconomic environments where there's less certainty. The simple explanation is that the girls see masculinity as safer. In a shittier, more violent high school I went to, the thugs would kick the shit out of pretty boys (who would have been more popular in UMC+ schools). Made them cry and look pathetic. Most girls (who are meek and unconf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 08:06 PM |
| 1 | New information appears to link New Hampshire congressman Robert Fisher to r/TRP admin redpillschool. Thoughts?It ruins posture too. Everyone should get a standing desk. Get a standing mat to start with if their feet can't handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 07:39 PM |
| 1 | New information appears to link New Hampshire congressman Robert Fisher to r/TRP admin redpillschool. Thoughts?I've seen that you have the bicep. You can take it to the next step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 06:24 AM |
| 4 | New information appears to link New Hampshire congressman Robert Fisher to r/TRP admin redpillschool. Thoughts?Yeah. I started to realize a while back. ... That being said, I always did have the inkling that GLO was exceptional among the big names. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 04:18 AM |
| 3 | Most women are insecure because they know that they are extremely flawed inside and yet, they are afraid that people see it.Yes men get carried away. How exactly does this relate to OP's statement about women? I'm guessing your assumption is that betas who worry about their own rep are projecting that concern on to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 06:47 PM |
| 6 | Most women are insecure because they know that they are extremely flawed inside and yet, they are afraid that people see it.Women are insecure because they're women. As a result, women tend to hide their flaws because they are afraid of being judged by it. IME they don't hide their flaws. Most I've spoken to are rather humble and it's difficult to distinguish that from insecurity. They don't want to be judged simply because they hate being disliked. They fear direct confrontation and competition. Males, at least masculine ones, thrive off it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 06:21 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] Men have more rigid attractiveness standards than women.I can still make myself physically attractive in other ways. OP's point is that it's more difficult for men to make themselves physically attractive in other ways. That being said, what's "conventionally attractive" should be ignored by both men and women except for purely intellectual discussions. This is including male POV rather than just a female one. While SMV is objective, physical attractiveness is more subjective. Also, I agree with many of the top comments that conventional standards fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 06:06 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] Men have more rigid attractiveness standards than women.For most of my life, I've struggled with insecurity over socioeconomic class, body (weak AF), and even ethnicity, all of which I'm proud of now. I used to wonder with awe over how easy other people had it. Friends, colleagues, ex-roommates, even my own brother, all seemingly born with the right genetics. I've considered suicide numerous times when I was a much weaker man. This is why it's all the more laughable when I get told nowadays by people that I have a genetic advantage. Sure I do. Geneti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 05:55 PM |
| 4 | TRP sucks themselves off too much and it's offputting to outsidersThat's a different question. Look at the OP. His primary complaints are about the hype and self-fellating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 01:37 PM |
| 10 | TRP sucks themselves off too much and it's offputting to outsidersThat's just reddit: most posts are garbage. If you agree with some of the posts, why do you care about the hype anyway? It's not useful to me, but I'm don't care to hate on ppl hyping themselves up. When we look at the rest of reddit, a lot of it is just sadsack. Half of the upvoted humor I see are just self-deprecating, Oh-so-that's-why-I'm-single, miserable jokes. Lots of depression, lots of validation and enabling from ppl who can't do anything for the whiners, and lots of sharing of feelings… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 07:43 AM |
| 3 | CMV - Physical Fitness > AllThis is the best post/comment I've seen from Skinny. lol Oh right. CMV. What you said though doesn't address style/outfit. I am physically fit. If I dress casually, I'll just look slightly fat, because clothes will drape over my chest and make me look thick. It'll hide that fitness. QED. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 05:36 AM |
| 2 | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?I have no son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?I don't know. They both just deleted their account one day. EssexCountyThug deleted once, and became HighschoolJockBully and one other username. I'm not sure if he still comes around. No one is writing with his same style anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/17 01:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.He said to us he's in his late 40s. And he was talking about seeing guys in their 50s here, divorced with kids already, hooking up with these 35-45 yr old women. I am saying those guys in their 50s, if he's just talking about 100k salary ("Rich is relative. I'm just talking about men who make at least 100k and have their lives together. Nearly all of them are committing to women over 35-40")... those are bog standard here. He then changed it later to 250k-300k. Does that clear up misunderstandin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/17 12:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.They're both in the bay area, dude. Me, SirN, and OP all are. That's why I was comparing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 10:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.What do you think I'm saying? What are you objecting to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 09:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.Most men who DIVORCED or couldn't get married at all by the time they're in their late 40s or past that are seen as clowns who can't be trusted in business. I suppose that's one reason those men would pick older women, as a public face, like I wrote in my first comment. You are feeding us a trickle truth about rich high betas that you see. Statistically, men do marry significantly younger when they aren't beholden to that public face. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/69rlsl/cmv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 05:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.But your experiences/observations that you're relating are born from high cost areas like the Bay Area, NYC, etc, not flyover states. Bay Area is especially bad because of gender ratios. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 04:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.This is what you wrote in another comment here: Rich is relative. I'm just talking about men who make at least 100k and have their lives together. Nearly all of them are committing to women over 35-40. So you're talking about 50 yr old dudes making over 100k. /u/sirnemesis is in the bay area with us. He's not even late 20s yet. He just started working. He makes significantly more than 100k. Yes, rich is relative, but you're talking about bog standard dudes here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 04:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.Rich is relative. I'm just talking about men who make at least 100k and have their lives together. Nearly all of them are committing to women over 35-40. "Rich" is relative, and that's why I can't agree with you. In the bay area, 100k isn't even close to rich. /u/SirNemesis is in his 20s and JUST started working here and is significantly above 100k baseline. And you're telling me 35-40 yr old women are marrying dudes approx 50 and above who make 100k. You're talking about bog standard beta bucks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 03:44 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Incel-Saturday Megathread (06 May 2017)Why would you ever bet on such a thing? Dude, I know there are a minority of incels who can be relatively normal on the internet (just fucked in some way IRL), but how can you deny that there's heavy sperg influence in incel communities? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 09:02 AM |
| 2 | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?True. She's vocal all right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 06:13 AM |
| 3 | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?/u/figthief and rufflesthefeathers (forgot reddit name) do it even better (anti male/pro female) and don't get any credit for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 06:12 AM |
| 7 | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?He's in love with questioningwoman. It's obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 05:23 AM |
| 4 | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?That man was a fellow poet. An EssexCountyThug for the new generation of ppders. He will be missed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 04:51 AM |
| – | Do you have any favorite poster here on ppd?/u/atlas_b_shruggin is my internet mother. /u/electra_cute is my internet daughter. /u/aznphenix, /u/anonymouscat7, /u/aliceoxalis, and /u/madscientistlove are adopted internet daughters. I take partial cred and responsibility for bringing madsci to the dark side. aznphenix and madsci could potentially pass for bio. I would have adopted /u/IamTheWalkingMenu, but she's too prodigal/wayward and mostly visits me through the sub. /u/SirNemesis and /u/Drok007 are longest running net comrades, and I l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 04:07 AM |
| 18 | CMV: The wall doesn't exist. As a matter of fact, women's RMV only increases with age.You clarified in the IRC that the 40+ yr old women you talked about were marrying guys over 50. These are guys were were divorced and already had kids so they aren't worrying so much about her fertility and they needed a public face... and they're still fucking girls in their 20s. You claimed to be plating a girl in her 20s. Secondly, you're talking about the bay area. In places like Silicon Valley of the Bay, ALL men over 40 are "rich". A girl can't even slip and fall without accidentally landi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 03:11 AM |
| 16 | CMV: Single moms are totally incompetent at raising children alone; and they're even worse at raising boys.That's beside the point. I said myself that the mom has some nonmoral responsibility for the mess she's in by choosing poorly. What I'm pointing out is that this is what /u/Electra_Cute wrote: "But it seems that a lot of men do not really care about taking caring for their own children and would rather stay away from that." And yet you respond "Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong." This is after you yourself called those men dickbags! What are you actually objecting to that she wrote? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 07:00 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Single moms are totally incompetent at raising children alone; and they're even worse at raising boys.The hypothesis is that without a male role model, the mother is too soft and the boy grows up doing what's natural to him. If he's naturally a beta, he'll be an untempered beta. If he's naturally alpha, he'll be an untempered alpha. There's less moderating force in his life, because the mother alone is either too busy as a single parent or because she is softer on the boy than a father would be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:42 PM |
| 16 | CMV: Single moms are totally incompetent at raising children alone; and they're even worse at raising boys.You wrote earlier: Most of the time, she married a dickbag, she KNEW he was a dickbag, but he was a hawt, good looking dickbag, so she let him fuck her and impregnate her anyway. You wrote yourself that the man is a "dickbag". The single mother's fault is hooking up with a dickbag and getting impregnated by him. However, the man IS a dickbag. He's the one leaving the kids. He doesn't care about taking care of his own children. You can fault the mother for picking poorly; but the fault for leavin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:20 PM |
| 8 | CMV: There's no real benefit that outweighs the risks of being in a modern-day long-term romantic relationshipAnd it's my loss because I was publicly shamed, and I made to be perceived as undesirable. I get what you're trying to say though. Maybe others. I don't know. I don't believe it would affect me. Who would shame me? Strangers? If it's people who know me, it'll be the woman who is shamed. She will be called picky/shallow/unrealistic. Yes true, but I spent 25€ on Darkest Dungeon and I had quite a great time with that game, it was a worthwhile investment because I knew before paying that I'd enjoy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 10:52 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There's no real benefit that outweighs the risks of being in a modern-day long-term romantic relationshipHe's not even just talking about marriage. He's talking about long term romantic relationships in general. Only his last point about divorce is related to marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 09:40 PM |
| 16 | CMV: There's no real benefit that outweighs the risks of being in a modern-day long-term romantic relationshipA person (usually male, due to cultural standards) needs to approach the person they're interested in and risk public shaming, insulting etc if they're rejected; If they reject me, it's their loss. THEIR shame. People need to invest vast amounts of time and resources into getting to know their partner ... People invest vast amounts of time into video games and other pleasurable pursuits. It's extremely easy to abandon a starting, ongoing or developing relationship now a days instead of trying to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Why are males so often so socially/sexually autistic?I know what he wrote. He chose words poorly for what I believe he meant to say, and I'm helping him translate. He's talking "social/sexual". He can correct me if I'm wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Why are males so often so socially/sexually autistic?What the OP likely means is that the girls are learning about gender roles early on and sizing men up for those roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 08:42 PM |
| 9 | Q4ALL: Why are males so often so socially/sexually autistic?through the prism I prefer which would be my intelligence "In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony girl’s tingles. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 08:01 PM |
| 2 | How common are 10/10 women?You and /u/TheGreasyPole wanna sperg-fight over this? Let's go: https://www.irccloud.com/#!/ircs://irc6.rizon.net:6697/%23purplepilldebate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 07:38 PM |
| 2 | How common are 10/10 women?Yes. Most people are average and basically indistinguishable from others. If two people are APPROXIMATELY average then subjectivity will come into play. Who are you to argue with me that the somewhat normal girl you're seeing is a 7 with your decimal scale and mine is just a 5? Why dont i say mine is a 7 and yours is a five? Nope. Each number is SIGNIFICANTLY different from the others. You need a full standard deviation to wipe out as much subjectivity as possible. If that means most people are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 07:36 PM |
| 1 | How common are 10/10 women?Do you factor age out or something? Do older women not influence SMV at all to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 07:12 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: From what you have read from this sub, what is the one thing that has surprised you about men?"Oh of course only looks matter for sex. Everyone knows that. LOL. I mean you would have to be really stupid to think otherwise. Or one of those feminists lol." ~reepbot ... "I never said looks were soley either. Just that looks do matter." ~reepbot ... It'll be a cold day in hell before I agree with a blue piller. Dude, I'm an rper. You can admit privately to me that you were wrong. I'll take credit for it, so you dont have to give it to /u/sublimemongrel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 12:38 AM |
| 1 | QFMEN: How many 9's and 10's do you know that are genuinely honest, good women and are not manipulative?It IS a bell curve. Fiat-drok uses normal distribution. Each point is a standard deviation. It's /u/TheGreasyPole 's scale that is linear. It's ridiculous. He's basically saying 10% of women are 10s. That's just not the way people think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/17 11:06 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Do you agree that the Red Pill/Blue Pill divide could actually be a class or rural/cosmopolitan divide?Right. Class and region definitely matter, but it's not as clean as just rural vs urban. I'm urban. I'm at least upper mid class. Internationalism benefits me personally way more than nationalism. I'm still red. To me there's a certain difference in personality and thought process that makes me identify more strongly with a small minority of rpers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/17 09:12 PM |
| 1 | QFMEN: How many 9's and 10's do you know that are genuinely honest, good women and are not manipulative?An 8+ to me is what most ppl call 10s. Almost every 8+ I've personally known seem like genuinely honest, good women. I don't really care if they're manipulative. It depends on what they're trying to get out of that manipulation. The 8+ I interact with the most right now is a competitive dancer/performer. She doesn't need to manipulate. In all likelihood, she's just doing her thing having fun. She has a boyfriend and guys just naturally talk to her and enjoy her company. She doesn't have to assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/17 08:57 PM |
| – | How common/normalized being a SAHF is?you're pretty far off from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 11:43 PM |
| 1 | How common/normalized being a SAHF is?It's easier to be a SAHP than a SAHF. The Stay at Home Pimp is common enough, and it's not hard. It just doesn't pay well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 11:11 PM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, what advice do you wish you'd gotten as a child that would've made your life a lot better?Physical attraction is a minimum. It's not all that matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, what advice do you wish you'd gotten as a child that would've made your life a lot better?Boxing is also good. It can "cure" neuroticism. Gave me much needed brain damage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 10:57 PM |
| 4 | Article: The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit's Women-Hating 'Red Pill'No, they're all relatively recent. He's posted vids in the purple pill sphere as well with him and his gf. He's not just all look either. He can do pullups with his gf on his back. I can barely do that with my own, and mine is around 100 lbs. GLO's looks heavier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/17 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsThat's a fair point. Predictability and unpredictability (and/or the suite of behaviours that fall under this description) aren't necessarily dyadic. I would still call them negatively correlated. It's far less likely to someone who is often called "predictable" to also be called "unpredictable", but it's possible. I'm saying that predictability is a more objective thing, while boring is subjective. So while ten different women should be able to give similar ratings on how predictable a guy is, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/17 12:12 AM |
| 5 | Should prostitution be legalized in the US?Not really in many cases. Yes really, in many other cases. The point is there would be more options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/17 12:01 AM |
| 6 | Should prostitution be legalized in the US?Your example was a book. A book written by someone who was engaging in ILLEGAL activities and talked about beating his whores to keep them in line. Do you not at all see a potential difference between businesses being run by law abiding folk and ones run by ruthless criminals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 11:57 PM |
| 6 | Should prostitution be legalized in the US?Are you talking about legal escort agencies and doing a fair comparison with their equivalent illegal ones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsI view it differently. I don't think it's a binary thing. How sporadic/consistent a guy is a scale Negative correlation doesn't imply binary. I've said numerous times now that what I mean by "conflicting traits" doesn't mean definitively that these traits necessarily preclude each other. Someone can be EXTREMELY responsible while simultaneously being EXTREMELY interesting. It would depend on other factors. Maybe he's extremely energetic, fit, self-motivated, dutiful, and doesn't need much sleep.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 11:49 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsHow in the world is what I'm saying a "smokescreen for the read female agenda"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 11:43 PM |
| 5 | Should prostitution be legalized in the US?What do you mean? The state just has to legalize it. Private, law abiding corporations can be new pimps. There's a clear difference to me between criminal pimps/madames and law-abiding businessmen. Different people. Not to mention the transparency and accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 11:42 PM |
| 4 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsShe dreams in color She dreams in red | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 10:50 PM |
| 19 | Should prostitution be legalized in the US?The main benefit to this will be that prostitutes have better, safer working conditions. The lowest class whores are basically at the mercy of crime rings now. it would lead to better conditions for all parties involved and provide society wide benefits. Worse conditions for criminal pimps, human traffickers, etc, financially. The competition from competent, law abiding businessmen would destroy them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsI'm saying it's difficult in general to isolate traits or acknowledge correlations. I've argued with one friend who couldn't even see why thrill-seekers might be more likely to cheat. There was no correlation to him simply because he's seen a few guys who can manage to be thrill seekers while also being loyal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 10:06 PM |
| 3 | Chasing Conflicting Traitsbut I wouldn't say he's necessarily less reliable, responsible, or consistent. I've tried to make this clear repeatedly. What i mean by "conflicting traits" isn't that the traits preclude each other. The hypothesis is that they appear to have a negative correlation. No one is saying that it's impossible for a man to come with a more complete package, being responsible/reliable/consistent in getting work done for his wife while also having the spontaneity and drive to go out often and learn new t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsWb, TGP. What's been keeping you? Too busy being a better man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsThey probably don't see them as related It's difficult for people to realize how different traits may conflict. A lot of people are oddly stubborn about this, possibly because a lot of it is abstract and intuitive. We could say that it's wishful thinking blocking understanding. Just men and women mashing as many positive-sounding traits together in one hypothetical partner as possible, but IME it's just difficult to acknowledge, because in reality, it's difficult to isolate a factor and study it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsYou're going to need to be cooperative at some point for this discussion to be productive. I'm not seeing this as a "debate", when we're not even at the starting point. Do you really still not see what I'm talking about wrt "fair comparisons"? Why are you making such minor points? If it bothers you, sub out the CEO for your ordinary folk who are still able to manage their time as effectively as ordinary folk do. Except one person spends significantly more time doing random hobbies as opposed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsTo a certain extent they make people interesting, but not when said hobbies become obsessions that lead to unequal contribution to the well-being of a household. You're taking it to the extreme. What if it wasn't one obsession. It was just the guy taking classes in his spare time rather than using it to help his wife out at home? A wife could very well be annoyed about "unequal contributions", but lack of novelty isn't the primary reason for that annoyance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsI don't mind using couch potatoes nor top performers as examples. My point of contention was lack of fair comparison. Factorize performance. "Ceteris Paribus." I want us to avoid comparing a busy, self motivated CEO with a couch potato. If you want to compare two CEOs with same time and busy lives, that's fine by me. The difference between the two is that one CEO is a lot more tolerant of monotony and at the very least appears consistent and reliable to his wife. He is ok doing house chores afte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Chasing Conflicting Traitsyou're associating a responsible nature with a life devoid of anything but responsibility. and that's just not reality and not what women have ever claimed to want in a man No I'm not. This is just abstract thinking at play. It's factorization. It's no different than when feminist sociologists try to factorize and then lay claim that there are little to no differences between the sexes, that the differences are just a few factors, like aggression, for one. They're factorizing. In REALITY, of cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsIf a man was busy doing something alpha like running a successful business and that is why he wasn't doing his share of chores, I'm sure a woman would be more forgiving. Instead, she is not forgiving because he is sitting around playing video games or drinking beer and watching sports when he should be helping with household chores. First off, my post is just inspired by that post, but also comes from my own observations as well as a few other posts Ive seen over the years from perspective of wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsI'm not asking you to choose. I don't care who you personally prefer. I'm asking you if you see how a person who has that personality type that makes him more inclined to appear "responsible, reliable, consistent" is more likely to be Alex or Bob. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsWhy are you adding watch TV or play video games to the mix? If you think a 9-5 isn't busy enough then make it a 8-7pm job. He needs the overtime and the commute makes it worse. The point is holding other factors constant and forcing this hypothetical man choose. What kind of man is more likely to pick duty and monotonous lifestyle, the responsible/consistent one, or the less responsible, more "carefree" one? You're the one coping out. Of course other factors play into this. I'm asking you, simpl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsI'm beginning find that I need to be explicit when talking to nonrpers about these things: Please factorize. Ceteris paribus. Make fair comparisons. Compare: Bob is man who comes home from his 9-5 (not a TERRIBLY busy job) to dutifully do chores with his wife and take care of the kids. He can stand putting his interests aside to do the responsible, consistent thing. He doesn't mind boredom. Alex is a man who goes out with his bandmates after his 9-5 job... sometimes. Other times, to halt the mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsThe TOP performing individuals will be able to do more in general. This isn't about the top percentiles of people. Top percentile performers will be more active and be able to do more. If you hold performance constant, the fact that there's limited time, alone, suggests negative correlation. That is why those with the busiest schedules, most activities outside the home I know (interesting things going on in their lives) don't do their own chores or rarely have to. They can use maids anyway. It's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Chasing Conflicting TraitsAn interesting/curious mind is one that has been exercised that way. It's one that is less likely to have been constrained to routine activities. There is less to talk about if I reliably do my job and reliably/consistently come home and do all the chores and spend time with my wife as opposed to say going out and working with band mates. Taking new classes on some interesting subjects. Meeting new people. Listening to new stories. How is this not obvious? The time alone makes it a negative corr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Chasing Conflicting Traitshuh? you can be a fun, interesting person who is also responsible. there's a range of behaviors that one could call 'consistent,' 'reliable,' and 'responsible.' I added this as an edit, future_space_boobs: (Before anyone claims that the traits dont necessarily preclude each other ("NARMALT! -- Not all responsible men are like that!"), I'm hypothesizing that this is correlative. Someone who is perfectly responsible and handles all his shit has less time, to say the least.) Do you not see a negati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 06:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women initiate divorce because they're stressed from juggling a career and household dutiesI used to pity people, both men and women, for such concerns. The more I dated and listened to women themselves, the more I realized that they usually set themselves up for this. But they avoid "boring" beta males. The ones who are stable and willing to spend their times working hard and doing chores, consistently. Of course if a guy is doing that, he has less time to be interesting. It's not always the case, and some men can do it all, but on avg, a guy who is like that who pulls his weight for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Stealthing - what are your thoughts?"Semen battery. Latest innovation for the green revolution." ~Frensel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/17 03:09 AM |
| 5 | Stealthing - what are your thoughts?Not rape, but some kind of sexual battery. "Semen battery." ~Atlasb The best take on it, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 11:56 PM |
| 7 | Article: The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit's Women-Hating 'Red Pill'http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/memberbillssponsored.aspx?member=377225 Look at the bills he sponsored. A bunch of pro marijuana stuff, a bill to protect minors from gay conversion therapy, reducing business taxes, free speech on campus, poker in private residences, relief to those struggling with utilities bill payments, etc Dude is basically Reddit incarnate. Reddit would love him if it wasn't for his creation of TRP subreddit. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Article: The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit's Women-Hating 'Red Pill'That's some fine Just World you've imagined up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Another take on Dread GameWhy is your sarcastic remark necessary? Read the edit. I added it well before your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Another take on Dread GameAnd don't you worry your darling heart. If I ever do decide to get involved in a crime ring, I'd rise through the ranks quickly and safely compared to the average thug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Another take on Dread GameI appreciate it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Another take on Dread GameI don't think you can separate "fear of loss" from jealousy. I don't understand why not. Did you read my examples? Most of them had no form of jealousy. A lot of them were fear for your loved one's life/safety. That is still fear of loss. Unless you mean that jealousy will always involve fear of loss, then sure, that sounds reasonable. I just think fear of loss is a larger set of "feelings" which just includes jealous ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:41 PM |
| 3 | Another take on Dread GameStaying out all night or not showing up places without explanation or saying "out" when asked about where you were is a very cruel thing to do to the other person. It's harmful. Intentionally doing such a thing, while understanding what's being done, is intentionally harming people who care about you to put them to the test. The anxiousness and sick feelings can eventually smother all the other feelings of love and affection and kill the relationship. It's more likely to smother positive feeling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Another take on Dread GameMy redefinition actually emphasizes less on jealousy. It's a fear of loss. If, in the poly community, it can't be invoked from a man seeing another woman, then that's all the more reason my redefinition/generalization works better. Many of the examples I gave would still work, regardless of how little jealousy you feel. If you care about a partner, you worry about his life/safety, for example. Also note that I'm not prescribing. Nothing here about what should be done. I'm entirely describing, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Another take on Dread GameNo i'm not. You can cluck. I think I'd enjoy that. 🙂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:07 PM |
| 4 | Another take on Dread GameNone of what I said is prescriptive. It's entirely meant to be descriptive. I'm not proud of making people who care about me, like my parents, cry. It's something that happened. I'm describing the feeling of dread. Redefining it; generalizing it. It actually annoys me that the top responses from bpers are moral lectures. But since it matters, can you offer me a suggestion on what to add to avoid this seemingly automatic kind of response? Maybe big bold letters, "I'm not suggesting that people sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Another take on Dread GameThe problem with pointing out it's like a dangerous job is that a dangerous job is not one you take because it will make your SO fear to lose you. I'm not actually prescribing playing dread games here. I'm talking about what that feeling can be about. It's bewildering how most people responding to me in this topic don't seem to get that. Dread is intentional use of emotional manipulation to get someone to do what you want, rather than being direct about facing a relationship's problems. Dread is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 01:52 PM |
| 5 | Another take on Dread GameMy examples: Being a beta, consistent male who enjoys working for others' benefit, I've found very early on that it's human nature for people to take me for granted. My parents were a perfect example. So long as I kept getting A's, my parents would become accustomed to "good" behaviour and expect it. If I got A-, it would be unusual and I'd be punished. They also didn't expect me to rebel... until the times I did. It kept escalating. Straying, hookie, intoxication, etc. The watershed moment was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Has your views of marriage changed from PPD?I'm a lot less cautious towards marriage because I've done my own due diligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What do you do if your daughter or wife repeatedly breaks the law and is a danger to those around her? Is the threat of violence justified?Why do you think it would kill your attraction? If a woman can intimidate me, chances are high she's taking roids or looks like she's taking roids. Not an answer I expected from you. Really? Interesting. What is unexpected about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL What do you do if your daughter or wife repeatedly breaks the law and is a danger to those around her? Is the threat of violence justified?If a gf/wife is legitimately a danger to me personally, I probably wouldn't be attracted. I'd break up. It would take a monster of a woman to threaten me. If it's a daughter that I cared about, I'd retire early and take her outside the west where I can spank the shit out of her without repercussions. If I have to weigh this against other daughters that I like more... then yeah, sure jail is always a viable option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How do you handle budgeting, your finances?Early 30s. Male. LTR. Partial cohabitation. After mortgage, auto-loan, IRA/401k, stocks, etc, I just buy whatever I want and look at damage at the end of the month. Not much different. No SO has ever helped my financial situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/17 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What makes you lose respect for a man?She's hilariously girly once you get to know her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/17 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What makes you lose respect for a man?Most people in general are. MMA viewers are still more likely to than the general population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/17 12:35 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Do you read literature?Yes. I used to be introverted and preferred reading to going on. I admitted that I even read a stack of literotica that was left behind by previous tenants when I was in elementary. In those stories, the women want the stoic alpha male who gets one pass to cry, but only about something truly significant. Can't cry about something too lame. (Ew.) It did have a minor impact on how I viewed relationships. So I'm curious, red pillers, especially those who say pop culture convinced you that Women Are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Why avoid giving straight answers?That's just being wrong or making personal/ad hom attacks. It's not coming up with a list of nuances and explanations while avoiding giving the answer. it's just as bad but it's slightly different behaviour. It probably has the same political reasons though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 08:37 PM |
| 6 | Why avoid giving straight answers?Yes. Political reasons, like I said. I don't disagree with the politics, from either end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Why avoid giving straight answers?Do you think BP gives more dodgy answers than RP, or that they do it more often? And can you give any hard evidence to support that? I never made a claim about RP answers. The reason why I ask BP specifically are for two major reasons: I don't want BPers answering on behalf of rpers. I don't want RPers asking on behalf of BPers. This allows the mods to work in my favour cleaning the thread up. It tends to be RPers making generalizations ("straight forward" generalizations), and BPers who dislike… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 07:43 PM |
| 4 | Why avoid giving straight answers?I appreciate this straight answer, and yes I do think part of it is political. That, along with personality differences, are likely why rpers dont get straight answers from bpers, and why trp mods kick bpers out of their forum instead of arguing, even against seemingly reasonable BP points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Why avoid giving straight answers?When someone asks you, "Are men on average stronger or weaker than women?" the answer is almost certainly black and white (binary). There are two answers: stronger and weaker. A lot of questions are also true and false. I don't mind nuance, excuses/explanations, but often what I see is nuance and excuses and explanations but avoidance of giving the straight answer before and after all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 06:43 PM |
| 4 | Why avoid giving straight answers?Should probably make this a question 4 all. I've seen it on the other side just as much. I haven't seen it as much, but I'm sure it does happen. The problem with making this a Q4All is because I knew some RPers would rush in here and answer for the bpers. I had to even write a reminder. "but... but feminism..." You'll have to give me an example, because when I've seen feminism mentioned it's still used as an attempt to directly answer the Qs or fit into the discussion, even when it's wrongfully … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Do sentiments like "I'll take your man card" exist in your world?In my experience there's nothing controversial about the fact that many men push each other to be more masculine and less feminine and that there's shaming similar to ... They definitely exist. How is this controversial and who is denying it? lol My only contention is that it's coming from everyone, not just men. I've heard a girl tell me how gay some dude was for having done ballet. The kicker: We were both in a ballroom dance class, which is apparently slightly less gay than ballet (despite th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:14 PM |
| 3 | Why avoid giving straight answers?You see this attitude on both sides, like when some RP users refuse to admit that some marriages might be happy. Yeah, I haven't seen enough of these over the years, but I'm sure these arguments must exist esp with the recent TRP/RPW/MRP arguments over marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Why avoid giving straight answers?So you're asking about a comparison between the sexes, and you're getting pussy because someone answered... comparing the sexes. Yes, pussy is definitely one difference between the sexes, but that's not what's being asked here. Look at the thread linked. You might be missing the question. The comparison is relative and between the sexes. It's not asking if most men date lower. He says it happens "often" but doesn't give an exact number or what counts as dating down. He's asking if men do that mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 02:37 PM |
| 8 | Why avoid giving straight answers?I don't mind qualifiers. But look at the example. The OP even used qualifiers. He's asking if men are "more" forgiving. He's not asking if most men and women marry within same socioeconomic class. He's asking if men are more likely to date down than women. Even by a few %. Same with past discussions even as basic as ones about physical strength differences. There was always one person who struggled and would instead prefer to point out that "not all men are stronger than women." I'm looking for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Obviously it'll hurt their social status. And yet men seem to care less than women. Also, this is about socioeconomic status, not more holistic "values"/caste. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Yeah Putting balls deep in a hole before going balls deep in a ho'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Scoff at peasants and incels while adjusting his monocle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Still sounds a bit too nouveau riche. Chadwick is older wealth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?This thread isn't about looks. It's about socioeconomic status. So let's all get off Chad's dick. ... We need something higher class like "Chadwick". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?In the plain ol' middle class and working class, I think the concern is much more about economic status not social, and I suspect that women care more about partner's economic status than men do. However, not having seen statistics and not being able to think of many couples I personally know where the man makes significantly more than the woman, I'd say I'm not sure about that one either. Your suspicions are correct. Upward socioeconomic mobility through marriage is more common for women. http:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Definitely. It influences my decisions as well, as a UMC+ man. Still would say it's a bit less of a concern for UMC+ men than UMC+ women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Also compare mail order males vs mail order females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 04:06 AM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Even though I disagree with you (and will respond later to your obs), I appreciate that you're finally giving a straight answer. This is why I can't identify with bpers though. It's like pulling teeth to get a straight answer. Always get the impression a lot of you are holding back for ideology reasons. Constant dodging of the question or just making excuses as if the feminist goddesses will strike you down merely for making an observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:57 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?It doesn't have to be 30%. It can be 20% that are willing. I'm asking you if you believe women have a lower % than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:48 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Look at Miss Common Sense over here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Men date lower SES more often than women. It's not the majority it's just more often than women. It's statistical. I'll even link you to at least one study when I'm not drunk and high. After 4/20. I don't know why you're debating though if you have no interest in these things yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:34 AM |
| 6 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?Because minor differences matter. They affect catallactics. I don't understand this BP lack of curiousity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 03:09 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP: Are men more forgiving of dating someone lower socioeconomic status than them? Are women less forgiving of dating someone of lower socioeconomic status than them?The point is to compare male vs female behaviours. Perhaps most men do marry mostly in their own social status simply due to convenience and proximity. But do you think they are more forgiving than women? E.g. If only 30% of men dated down socioeconomcially, do you think a lower or higher % women are going to do that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Is it just me or gay men age better than straight ones?Gay males are: higher T more fit sexually disinhibited more competitive urbanites (the ones that are active and obviously out of the closet) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/17 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPMen: How do you guys know the lives and experiences of women so well?I talk to women, observe their behaviour, and read between the lines. They're a lot more honest one-on-one than when they're in a group. As for your link, What the OP wrote can be defended using semantics and rhetoric and isn't worth arguing. E.g. "Most women, even ones who are busy might make exceptions to talk to a male celebrity, rather than being annoyed. The attention would be flattering and rare." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/17 09:06 PM |
| 7 | The wage gap is real, and isn't because women are less capable.Oh, for fuck's sake, even Obama himself spread this shitty piece of misinformation. And before anyone can correct you, yes, Obama did in fact say that the typical woman working full-time, year-round earns only 79 every dollar earned by the typical man for doing same jobs as men. Feminists weren't falling over themselves to correct him on that, of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/17 03:51 AM |
| 3 | The wage gap is real, and isn't because women are less capable.Most people understand that. The majority of the anger coming from MRAs that I've read say precisely what you're saying. Their contention is that the 23% gap that feminists talk about doesn't just come from workplace discrimination. It comes from their own choices. Most of the wage gap as determined by Consad+Dept of Labour comes from determined factors. The "explained gap" category. The explained gap doesn't include discrimination. It includes what's easily factorized like industry, hours worke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe you are going to find a woman who is...Well then you're one of the slightly more fortunate ones that can see past the glamour. I still think women who put more effort into their appearance generally will get more attention from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe you are going to find a woman who is...What stops you from faking the belief? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe you are going to find a woman who is...Even when intro girls aren't squirreled away, they'd often pass by unnoticed because they're less likely to be dolled up (lack of extro care for others' perception -- it goes with lack of care for "dream house/car to show off"). I don't think intros generally fit all of /u/trpobserver 's criteria better than extros, at least not the "fem in appearance" one. They'd be good deals for guys who can see past the glamour though (or thereof). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Do men really get their hearts broken deeper than women?Men, have you ever had your heart broken and weren't able to get over it? Why or why not? No, and I don't know. My guess to the second question would be that I've been trained over time to get over lost relationships quickly. I moved around a lot as a child. If it is true that men get their hearts broken deeper, does this mean women truly have the upper hand? Theories on feelings are too subjective and unfalsifiable, subject to rhetorical/semantic arguments. I'd prefer looking at it in terms of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 09:38 PM |
| 3 | What is a bigger issue: Gender inequality or wealth inequality?A wealthy woman is already out. So you agree. Glad to have that cleared up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 09:05 PM |
| 3 | What is a bigger issue: Gender inequality or wealth inequality?The question wasn't about comparing that 0.1% to 0.05%. It was about comparing gender inequality to wealth inequality. A wealthy woman has a much higher chance of getting out than a destitute man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on "non-college girls still know how to be women"?I believe this is often the case. College gives girls experiences OUTSIDE their old, local social circles. Girls from the ghetto who got to college become a bit less ghetto, because they gain experiences outside. Traditional girls who leave their sheltered, conservative parents and social circles might become ever so slightly more cosmopolitan, wild, and independent when they go to college. So my caveat would just be that it depends on what environment the girl is coming from to determine which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on "non-college girls still know how to be women"?I've been with both girls who turn more feminine and ones that turn more masc in the "uneducated lower class" camp. My nuance would be that girls who aren't college educated are more likely to have a larger part of themselves influenced by their community/upbringing. E.g. Ghetto girls are more likely to keep being ghetto due to lack of college influence. Traditional girly girls are more likely to stay that way due to lack of college influence. So I don't think OP is entirely wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 08:23 PM |
| 3 | What is a bigger issue: Gender inequality or wealth inequality?Wouldn't gender equality allow them more opportunities to get out of poverty though? Things are connected. More like equality opportunity to not be stuck poor and unable to get out. If men have 0.1% chance of getting out and women have only 0.05%, gender equality isn't going to matter for the majority of women as wealth equality is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 08:15 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women get fat despite seemingly being so obsessed with being thin?A wise, but nerdy female ppder taught me that deadlifts are good for women. You'll get bulkier but mostly in the places that might be good to bulk up, like the ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Q4MEN How easy is it for you to find an interesting woman that's also physically attractive?Perhaps. I just like people who like me. If that's narcissistic, then I guess I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 07:01 PM |
| 7 | Q4MEN How easy is it for you to find an interesting woman that's also physically attractive?Look at you two girls being so smart and interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN How easy is it for you to find an interesting woman that's also physically attractive?Not solely. It's an additional incentive though. Removing an incentive can affect the stats at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 04:02 PM |
| 3 | Q4MEN How easy is it for you to find an interesting woman that's also physically attractive?That counts as interesting if you are interested in playing giant bar jenga with me. Bonus points if you can actually beat me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 03:52 PM |
| 9 | Q4MEN How easy is it for you to find an interesting woman that's also physically attractive?Do you want or value a woman being interesting? Not at all. How often do you find an interesting and physically attractive woman? Often. How often do you find an interesting woman that's not physically attractive? Less often. How often do you find an interesting woman that's incredibly physically attractive? Less often still. Why do you think it is this way? People who are active in mind and body generally don't let themselves turn into unhealthy slobs. Possibly because they have more to live fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 03:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It's better to be beautiful than smart in this world.No one has to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 06:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It's better to be beautiful than smart in this world.Plastic surgery, chem baths, cool sculpting, losing fat (which can be done more ways than lifting), improving diet, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 05:17 PM |
| 6 | Q4Men: 'Curvy': Can technically overweight or obese women still be attractive to non-thirsty men? Where is your personal limit?1-9 for me. Curvy is good, but it has to be real curvy, as in a combination of many curves, both concave and convex. NOT an OkCupid "curvy", which is really just one giant convex curve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 09:44 AM |
| 2 | PPD, are you guys Judgers or Perceivers? How, if at all, do you think this has affected your dating life?I'm J mainly because I prefer to present as J. MB is just a model for personality using descriptors. It's no different from me calling you "quirky". I could be wrong. You could describe yourself as "quirky" and you could be wrong or lying. You could be P today and go J as you age. Just as you could be "immature" today and "mature" in several years. Most of this isn't set in stone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/17 03:52 PM |
| 6 | PPD, are you guys Judgers or Perceivers? How, if at all, do you think this has affected your dating life?Wobbly uncooked dough! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/17 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Given the incredible emphasis put on beauty in our society, how should one deal with aging/beauty-decline psychologically?No woman I like should worry about aging/decline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/17 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Given the incredible emphasis put on beauty in our society, how should one deal with aging/beauty-decline psychologically?I agree with you. I'd say the avg is more early 20s myself. All I'm saying is that the factor I described would skew the results. I think girls start caring about their bodies more after high school too. In Korea, its common for girls who graduate HS go through a sudden transformation where they have time to work on their looks. Some parents also reward them with surgery for good academic performance. That's a more extreme version of what I'm talking about. It's not biological. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/17 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Given the incredible emphasis put on beauty in our society, how should one deal with aging/beauty-decline psychologically?Have the wealth, health, and connections to both live long enough and have power to take advantage of every exciting opportunity as it becomes available to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Given the incredible emphasis put on beauty in our society, how should one deal with aging/beauty-decline psychologically?A lot of girls are nerds in high school and college and only start trying afterwards. It really skews the results/observations, so you might be right once that gets factored out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Given the incredible emphasis put on beauty in our society, how should one deal with aging/beauty-decline psychologically?As a man, I'd be thankful that I am a man. Position myself for future opportunities and technologies. As a woman, one would be thankful that men like me exist in the world. Work harder and accept that life isn't fair. Know that there are more opportunities now than there ever has been in the past. Technology (including cosmetic tech) is getting cheaper, safer, and more culturally acceptable every year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 08:08 PM |
| 7 | The APA and the Gender Similarities HypothesisDecades' worth of DALBAR report for QAIB tells me that women are better investors than men. Men have higher variance for performance and they are overconfident, leading to more tampering/day trading. Tell me why studies like the above by people who have no ideological motivations and decades worth of data aren't more credible than the sociology studies like you presented. Even your own studies couldn't deny there were gender differences they just tried to blame it all on Isolated factors. Sex ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 03:31 AM |
| 3 | The APA and the Gender Similarities HypothesisI don't agree with everything coming out of trp subreddit. As for what you're saying, I don't care if certain traits are exhibited by both genders. Something's masculine when it's something that occurs significantly more in males than females, and vice versa. It's not that all men or even most men are stronger or more arrogant than me, but if some random person was then I'd bet that person was male. Hypergamy (the technical SES definition) is more feminine than masculine. It's not that it never … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 03:18 AM |
| 8 | The APA and the Gender Similarities HypothesisEven if we were to take what the article had for granted, it has at least the following: Only a few main differences appeared: Compared with women, men could throw farther, were more physically aggressive, masturbated more, and held more positive attitudes about sex in uncommitted relationships What you said flippantly is based on the conclusions whereby these "few main differences" are factorized. Even if we assumed these were the ONLY differences, in reality such differences don't get factoriz… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 02:56 AM |
| 14 | The APA and the Gender Similarities Hypothesisit's a meaningless statement. Of course there's more similarities between men and women than differences objectively. We're both humans. There are more similarities between any two individuals than there are between either of them and a banana. Trp ideas focus on the differences. What's wrong about that? Ignoring those differences is supposed to help whom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Man pushes woman into having baby and ends up as single dadNo fucks given to the guy, not even if the kid grows up hating him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Stayed next to "call girl" from CL/BP in suburban chain hotel of a large American city. Interesting.Yes, interesting. Makes me feel as normie as you today. /high five | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Stayed next to "call girl" from CL/BP in suburban chain hotel of a large American city. Interesting.Men are definitely thirstier than women, but the fact that this hooker wasn't pretty doesn't help push that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 06:38 PM |
| 4 | Is this guy's standards too high? and should he lower his standards?"Beta bob, what are you going to do to find your perfect woman?" "John, I'm going to go into the tech industry to make a lot of money. I'm also going to try and find someone who shares my interests like anime/manga, gaming, cosplay sex, and political science and economic discussions. If I pray hard enough to the Feminist Goddesses, the gender ratio for the communities I'm going to interact with for such interests will improve soon enough that it won't disadvantage me." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/17 12:09 AM |
| 3 | Is this guy's standards too high? and should he lower his standards?You'll need to provide some kind of scoring for each of those factors and let us know how much he's willing to compromise on each. For all we know, those standards are absolute and cannot be compromised. In that case, yes his standards are unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 11:38 PM |
| 1 | What happens to all the entitled 9's/10's?Those sluts, whores, etc who are 9/10s end up marrying beta bux and are well provided for. Whether they end up enjoying the rest of their lives is up to them, and I won't speak to that, but their situations are better than 99% of other women's, including some very nice girls. I've seen and heard things IRL that remind me of De Sade's Justine and Juliette. They're just stories, but also lessons about how life can be unfair. There are kilo-sluts who've literally made young men kill each other over… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 10:58 PM |
| 6 | Research Articles: When Gender Differences in Sexual Selectivity DisappearI object to this being brought up because it seems to imply something is wrong with the data or methodology, as if the researchers are fudging the numbers to fit their hypothesis. My comment wasn't on the data, it was on the conclusions, which sounded stronger and more conclusive. E.g. "thereby eradicating the robust sex difference in romantic selectivity." There's at least two ways to interpret that if we didn't look at the discussion/data. That being said, it's more of a warning to readers (no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/17 05:05 PM |
| 6 | Research Articles: When Gender Differences in Sexual Selectivity DisappearI didn't deny that part of women's selectivity comes from social influences. Biological basis for certain biases become amplified by society. That there wasn't a "reversal" alone suggests there's more. Your claim is stronger: "tells me that women's selectivity likely comes from a social rather than biological basis". You dropped your tinfoil hat, friend. Are the researchers' bias and hopes not apparent at all to you? I'm not talking about a conspiracy theory. I'm talking about two people having … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/17 04:46 PM |
| 10 | Research Articles: When Gender Differences in Sexual Selectivity DisappearThe conclusion and abstract were stronger than the discussion, which often hints at ideological bias of the social science researchers. On the one hand, this sex difference did not significantly reverse at events where women rotated, so on average there was at least an overall trend in the present data for men to experience greater romantic approach (i.e., to be less selective) than women. The results did not reverse. They just almost equalized when they made the men sit passively. That is to sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/17 04:00 PM |
| 3 | Does obesity harm women's SMV more than men?Yeh you bring up a good point. Prole guys don't mind thicker women. I can see some of that in myself. Residual prole influence from childhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/17 02:29 AM |
| 1 | [Debate] On the argument for why "men have less worth than women" in terms of relationships and sexual value (or whatever), according to TRP?Value is defined however it can be defined and measured objectively. I'm using fucks as a standard and scale for measurement. Number of fucks is just one way to measure. because the second man would just replace him in fucking the women. Then according to my standard of measuring, the second man's SMV would jump up with the death of the first man. You're using some spooky absolute god-given value. I'm using "SMV", a "market value", which fluctuates based on supply and demand. If there's lowered … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/17 01:16 AM |
| 4 | [Debate] On the argument for why "men have less worth than women" in terms of relationships and sexual value (or whatever), according to TRP?Mean in your scenario would be the same. Your numbers don't even make sense. If the women are having one fuck each, that's (1,1,1,1,1). They gave away 5 total fucks. How are you distributing those 5 fucks among the men? You only have (0,0,0.5,1,1.5) for the men. That only totals 3 fucks. Where are the missing fucks man? Where the fucks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/17 01:03 AM |
| 3 | [Debate] On the argument for why "men have less worth than women" in terms of relationships and sexual value (or whatever), according to TRP?Men have less MEDIAN average sexual and reproductive worth than women. The MEAN average sexual and reproductive worth might be similar, but median? No way. This comes down to the fact that one man can impregnate 1000 women easily. You can't get the reverse where one woman gets pregnant 1000 times by 1000 different men. A deme where half of the men are killed will recover easily within a generation. A deme where half the women are killed will take a lot longer to recover. There's historical genet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Men are seen as children by feminists but seen as head of the household by tradcons.I agree 50% post tax is stupid. If I could rewrite Cali laws, I'd change those percentages. 50% when the working ex-spouse has to still pay the costs of working (taxing on the body, transportation costs, time lost, etc) isn't what I'd set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Men are seen as children by feminists but seen as head of the household by tradcons.Thank God for loans not counting. It's actually more consistent this way. Pre-marital assets are off the table for divorce (even income earned from those assets), so why shouldn't loans work the same way. It's only consistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 09:25 PM |
| 2 | Men are seen as children by feminists but seen as head of the household by tradcons.Look, I have been told that my school loans ( meaning paying them back) would not be calculated as part of my necessary expenses should wife and I split. But my school loans are the reason I am providing the income that is to be split in the first place! Premarital property is off the table for divorce for the most significant states. Same with income earned from premarital property in American rule states. Why SHOULD an ex get part of what I owned before being married to me? It's only consisten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 09:24 PM |
| 5 | It's hypocritical of women to force men to adhere to traditional gender roles while being unwilling to stick to theirsMen suffer loneliness better than women. This assumption is based on how men will actively choose to isolate themselves at higher rates than women, for whatever purposes: career, fame, fortune, popularity, thrills, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 09:09 PM |
| 2 | What kind of sexual deviant are you? QUIZI don't think I'm actually that kinky compared to others. Everyone else is just lying. The longer I've stuck around ppd the more I've realized that no one is more objective than me. There's no way so many ppl score lower on "Girl/Boy" than me, for example, even the women here. They're all fucking lying. I like to be pampered by women, and that's childish. It doesn't matter if that seems more submissive to the test. It's just objectively true that that makes me more boyish. No one else has that l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 09:00 PM |
| 2 | What kind of sexual deviant are you? QUIZ== Results from bdsmtest.org == 95% Dominant 94% Daddy/Mommy 93% Master/Mistress 93% Primal (Hunter) 92% Brat tamer 92% Owner 83% Ageplayer 78% Sadist 76% Degrader 73% Rigger 61% Voyeur 58% Experimentalist 57% Vanilla 50% Switch 46% Masochist 30% Exhibitionist 26% Non-monogamist 24% Pet 23% Girl/Boy 21% Submissive 15% Degradee 14% Primal (Prey) 13% Brat 12% Slave 9% Rope bunny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 08:01 PM |
| 3 | The Red Pill is self-defeating and most people who desire the lifestyle Red Pillers desire can achieve it without The Red PillTo those without social capital it may be a lofty goal. You're just not seeing it as a worthy goal yourself. I'm not convinced the exact goal matters for most people. Having a goal at all is a step up for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 07:21 AM |
| 1 | There will be no beta male uprisingSlight economic stagnation and a lot more complaining online | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/17 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are their some people who believe that looks are the only thing that matters when it comes to dating?Since so many people No one else here is more objective than me. Keep up the good work, working out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 08:00 PM |
| 6 | Women have no clue what an alpha or beta is.Successful criminals are still alpha, like El Chapo or Pablo Escobar. The typical thug criminal is a beta. Both of them have "behavioural alpha" in them. You're not factorizing competence. Either you're completely leaving out the competence axis, or you're talking about alpha-beta as it relates to social status. Behaviourally, both the successful kingpins and the thug criminals have "alpha" in them. We actually had a 30 min convo in PM over the irc where you agreed with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Why are their some people who believe that looks are the only thing that matters when it comes to dating?The percentages people throw out always seem silly. There's no objectivity to them; we can say that it's 100% about character, because even an SMV 3 man with the right character could work hard on his body, lose the fat on his face, and pay to fix the rest with surgery. We can say it's 100% about looks because that's what everyone admits will help you get your foot in the door. It's an interplay between the two. Your character is projected on to your physical appearance. If you're 400+ lbs, part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Regulars who live on these boards. Have you changed your opinion on anything or learned something new that challenged your views?I always did suspect that gay males on avg might have higher T. The gay men I knew had plenty of risky/unprotected sex, were buff/ripped, competitive. They were over all more "masculine" than straight males especially in the Bay Area. I just wasn't prepared to think that the gayest of gays, the bottoms, might have even higher T. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 05:50 AM |
| 9 | Regulars who live on these boards. Have you changed your opinion on anything or learned something new that challenged your views?I forget the exact details, but drok and I were preparing to lecture a gay male member of ppd about gay male bottoms. We both assumed gay male bottoms would be low T males, generally. But then we read an article on our own showing strong evidence that gay male bottoms may have higher T than gay tops. This confused and angered us. I could hardly believe it. Is anything in this world even real anymore? The gods of postmodernism struck a blow to my reality that day. https://blogs.scientificamerican… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 04:28 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Which in your opinion is more valuable - Beauty or Brains?"Soul" is brain. "Will power", "personality", whatever else you're thinking... all brain. Brain is also important for women. Personality. Beauty is cheaper than brain. Mama June went from a 2-3 to a 5-6. Some dude is going to want her and it only cost her around 75k. If you're talking about supposed smarts claimed by those middling dunning-Kruger afflicted blowhards, both men and women, then Those are definitely a dime a dozen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 03:03 AM |
| 2 | Men only choose "girl next door" types as wife material because they have to introduce her to their mothers.Hahah my moms opinions, right. she's the craziest awalt I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/17 10:01 PM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Re: love. What would you do in these hypothetical situations?ppd dude crew to the rescue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/17 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Re: love. What would you do in these hypothetical situations?How could we live without enjoying our pol rogers and kobe beef, twm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/17 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Re: love. What would you do in these hypothetical situations?1. Your wife gets breast cancer. She loses both her breasts, goes bald, and loses 30 lbs. Care for her, but if she can't have sex and is bedridden, I'm letting her know I'm going to be fucking whores. 2. Your wife quits her job which pays $100k a year due to extreme bullying and harassment bringing her depression and anxiety. Don't care. I don't need her income. 3. Your wife quits her job which pays $100k a year and cannot find a similar paying job. She takes on a job as a secretary for a presch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/17 06:50 PM |
| 40 | How do you account for the fact that not a single woman on this PPD thread posted a pic of a supine, hairless, oiled, shirtless muscle man with a come-hither look on his face?Gender difference in male vs female perception. Women have wide, holistic view and see the things you're focusing on like pose and the "come hither" expression. They're also more likely to take into account culture and experience which would help them realize that those men are probably gay. Men compartmentalize and are focusing purely on the physical traits ignoring even expression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: What views and beliefs held by people on this sub do you strongly disagree with?... forward projected mandibular complex, hooded eyes, 8+ inch wrists, 15+ inch bicep, 44+ inch chest, 6+ len and girth, ape index between 1.0 and 1.1,.. etc Manlets need not apply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Post a picture of the woman you find most attractive.Her all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 05:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Scientific Surveys are just organized collections of anecdotes, so anecdotes are a valid piece of evidence.The common denominator is that they are redditors and going on Reddit to talk/read about their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 05:01 AM |
| 1 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDThese guys can pretend to be lesbians for each other. Like the MTF transsexuals who want to hook up with lesbians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 03:33 AM |
| 3 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDI guess I don't understand what VR is then? I thought it was like a video game. If there's an actual person on the other side, why is that in any way preferable to a prostitute? And if an incel can't get laid through regular means, how does he get someone to agree to VR sex with him? Having talked to both incels and prostitutes about this matter: Some of the less fortunate incels truly don't believe they can be loved for how they look. The prostitutes agree with them on this. lol Online, no one … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 02:48 AM |
| 1 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDI agree. I also went into depth about how technology is taking away people's sense of uniqueness. That's my working theory on one contributing factor for why all these weird identities are popping up. It's not all positive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 02:35 AM |
| 2 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDThe solution for you is clearly to get off the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 02:10 AM |
| 5 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPD"Chadder" An app for Chad males only. "Come chatter on Chadder, where the boys are badder." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:53 AM |
| 1 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDso I don't know if your VR solution would fix the core problem. I just realized you're talking about VR and not sexbots/AI. They're completely different. With online worlds, you're interacting with a human. A human being behind that avatar is loving you for your personality. An incel might not be loved for his 400+ lb, unhygienic body, but he might have a higher chance of being loved for his personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:44 AM |
| 2 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDOne difference is that a sexbot is something you own, and some people might like to have consistency. A whore can get costly over time and leave the industry. That being said, I completely agree. This is something I brought up as a reason why I don't think sexbots will pick up as quickly as some ppl (subset of mgtow) want. Frankly, I wish I left sexbots out of this discussion. I thought this might happen, where sexbots eats up the entire discussion, but I gave it a chance anyway just to be more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:36 AM |
| 2 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDIt's one of the core problems for a subset of men. Sexbots/AI would be mitigation, not complete solution, unless you want to claim that all men are like incels who have feminine sexuality. I posit that there will be at least a significant minority that would be fine getting their balls emptied by a consistent bot. Just the way that an even smaller minority seem to be mostly fine with their porn, blowup dolls, and dakimakura pillows. At the very least pacified. Mitigation is all that's needed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:30 AM |
| 1 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDExcellent. I'll reply later, but for reference please try to find a link to that webcomic for me and the others. This is one of the few things on here I wholeheartedly support. But not for any reason having to do with the concept of SMV and so forth. Economic benefits includes people making connections with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:13 AM |
| 7 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDTwo immediate problems with this (though I'm sure I'll be able to come up with more with more time): I'm not convinced all men are like this. This is applying female sexuality to all the men. A lot of incels do have this in all fairness, but all you need is even a significant minority who just need their balls emptied by something that can help actualize their fantasies. Some men can just get hooked on drugs. They know the delusions and/or feelings aren't "real". They still enjoy it. Not everyon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:11 AM |
| 2 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDAgain, if you quit applying your own personal tastes and morals to it it can make sense. Why should they care about "taking back control of society"? Why should I care if they do? I like my society just fine. Why is this a problem if they're happy? Wouldn't TBP spergs be happier too ? They claim that these people are just neckbeards whom they don't want bothering them in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 01:06 AM |
| 3 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDMy speculation is based on my perception that men are autistic/focused/goal oriented. Simple minded in this manner. A lot of frustrated men will appreciate that there's a simple goal to go after. Saving a lot of money, and buying a bot that gives you EXACTLY what you sign up for. Think about the lifter autists. They were given a goal, and they go for it. It's NOT actually easy to do. It's just simple. One dimensional. It will have its appeal. Quit applying your own personal tastes and morals to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 12:52 AM |
| 1 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDWhen do you think this will kick in to play? Sooner or later than advanced VR or advanced sexbots/AI? Do you think there will be economic or political speed bumps? I imagine the bottlenecks will be more economic/political than technological. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 12:43 AM |
| 5 | How can technology fix or mitigate the problems discussed in PPDPlease tie this to my topic more directly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Post a picture of the woman you find most attractive.Look, I don't really keep track of many celebs. I had a thing for alt/goth-looking chicks since middle school that never went away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Post a picture of the woman you find most attractive.The Goddess! Rofl OmLiLi++++++++ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Post a picture of the woman you find most attractive.Lol, man. I love how unabashedly "3D PIG UGLY" "3D PIG DISGUSTING" weeb you are. (EDIT: sorry, the term was 3DPD, I forgot.) But seriously, what do you have against the "real" girl on the left? That is about as close of a cosplay as you're going to get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 03:53 PM |
| 8 | Q4M: Post a picture of the woman you find most attractive.Jane Zhang Angelababy Janelle Monae Hmm. Maybe Avril Lavigne, Rachel Platten, a bunch of kpop/jpop idols. I might be biased towards singers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: post a picture of the most attractive man to youWe age at similar rates. Japanese age a bit slower due to lower caloric intake, but the rest of us aren't that different. Life expectancy isn't that much different. The minor difference in the appearance of age I think has to do with fat distribution and heliophobia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: post a picture of the most attractive man to youShocked to learn today that Donnie is 53 though. ... though I guess my dad looked young at 60+ until cancer hit him. Asians just don't age the the same ways Western-accustomed eyes expect them to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: post a picture of the most attractive man to youFlame is 24 actually. Still more than old enough for electra, ofc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: How much does "natural" vs "fake" beauty matter in SMV?Cosmetic surgery is really expensive and always leaves scars. Depending on what you get such as breast implants, you'll require upkeep like changing or removing them every 10-15 years. I don't care for breast implants and even if I did, I can afford the upkeep costs. No guarantee to get exactly what you want either because it's based on what facial/body structure you already have. If I liked her enough to marry her, then she's probably "good enough" even without the makeup. People well-trained i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: How much does "natural" vs "fake" beauty matter in SMV?Those ugly offspring can get cosmetic surgery or be diligent about makeup like their mother. Then they can be just as good looking. Bad character and stupidity are much more costly and difficult to fix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill, have you ever been called out for being a "red piller"?Yes. They were very stereotypical SJWs. Surprisingly so. The kind who literally talked for over an hour about evil white male patriarchy. But they liked me. I find it almost impossible to dislike people who like me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/17 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill, have you ever been called out for being a "red piller"?I'm not saying they'd necessarily call people out. I'm saying people would know about the pillsphere. I have met a couple ppl irl whom I'm confident are tbp visitors (rarer than trp members). I didn't call them out. They were nice girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 04:51 PM |
| 5 | Red Pill, have you ever been called out for being a "red piller"?That's what I assumed, but then I bumped into a couple. In places like Toronto and Bay Area you'll have non-zero chances of bumping into SJWs/TBPers who know what TRP is. Bay Area because it's reddit central and Toronto prob because it's feminist/SJW central. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 06:16 AM |
| 8 | Red Pill, have you ever been called out for being a "red piller"?I met a couple of people I am certain were TBP readers a while back. They had no clue. They think I'm a role model. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Are redpillers considered to be inherently conservative?Look at how one of them talks about ppl voting for Trump in this very thread. Tradcons hated him. They're just falling in line now. They obviously give themselves more leeway when denying any conspiracy exists between Sanders and Clinton. They somehow know that Sanders and Clinton groups were genuinely different ideologically in multiple ways. They just dont extend the same benefit of the doubt to groups they oppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 09:26 PM |
| 11 | Are redpillers considered to be inherently conservative?One of the biggest hints that TRP isn't pro-traditional is that TRP has officially and outright rejected marriage. It's one of the main reasons for the gradual TRP/RPW/MRP split. It's the pillspherean mason dixon line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Are redpillers considered to be inherently conservative?You're right. I think rpers and bpers both see conservatives as enemies. OP might be lumping conservatives with rpers because he/she sees them both as enemies and only focuses on the aspects they share that he disapproves of, like patriarchy or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 07:18 PM |
| 4 | What kind of things have you learned on this sub?I saw your pics before they were taken down, and the other one you indirectly referred to several months ago. You lose 15-20 since that pic several months ago? If so, I'm going to declare that you're objectively at least avg SMV-wise and can be above avg with normal applications of makeup. You're not ugly. Please dont argue about this because I get a headache arguing with ppl in this subreddit and on the irc over their subjective opinions. Mine are way more objective, just take my word for it. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 06:52 PM |
| 1 | hot sluts win the sexual marketI agree, for RMV, as you clarified elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Why men hate sluts:Men like to jack off because they had to work for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 04:34 PM |
| 2 | hot sluts win the sexual marketMore rpers are saying resources matter less now because gov't is the beta bucks. You're making fun of a weak or non-existent position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Is there a difference between f@$%ing and making love?Yotta anal is anal times 1024. Significantly more romantic than mega anal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 05:50 PM |
| 5 | Q4RP: Is there a difference between f@$%ing and making love?If the girl loves you, she'll give you mega anal like she gave Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 03:24 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Which side are the Force are you on and what is your pill color?Becky Transcendent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 11:12 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL Anyone experience gender neutral bathrooms? Women lose out!It's not romantic, because no girl is special in this regard. If I had to guess, it's that I'm not threatened by women. Men's smells are oppressive and intrusive -- they're trying to challenge me for territory. Women don't feel oppressive at all to me. ... That or my nose is just misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 11:09 PM |
| 4 | [CMV] Women are not any more or less valuable than men are, and have the same rights. As such, there is no grand conspiracy of men working to undermine women."Value" is a contextual term. Women have higher median sexual and reproductive value. (Much more similar mean values though, imo.) That fact alone can account for a lot of imbalances we see, without any need for grand conspiracies. "Accidental conspiracies" at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 10:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL Anyone experience gender neutral bathrooms? Women lose out!I just don't mind it. I don't think I have a natural disgust reaction towards women. "Oh Jesus Christ, what is that rancid smell?" *realizes it's just a girl who hasn't showered for a week* "Oh whew; it's just a girl. Not even morbidly obese." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 10:47 PM |
| 4 | Q4all: who's your highest n count female friend? What is she like?I have a friend who is a literal whore. If I had to guess, she probably is over n-count 1000. She's a good person and will probably find some nice guy to marry in her home country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 10:40 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL Anyone experience gender neutral bathrooms? Women lose out!First off, men get to listen to women shit and fart. Which yeah, all animals, but it still fucks with romance and perceptions. No dude really wants to hear a woman's battleshits. I don't mind, but I'm a filthy animal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 10:38 PM |
| 8 | The reason why women hate being judged by their sexual history more than anything else"I won't judge you for it... But since you're open to giving anal to Chad, and you say you love me more, that must mean you'll give me mega anal." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 10:34 PM |
| 7 | [Discussion] What is your N-Count, and what do you think is the "appropriate" N-Count?Such a Becky thing to ask. It's a Dragonball reference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you admit that most women are attracted to psychopathic/narcissistic men?That's fine because it's a foray into a related, wider discussion: that part of the discrepancy between the views of a lot of rpers and bpers has to do with class. This is something that has been suggested by many bpers themselves over the years (albeit much of it in ad homs themselves). "They're low class." I agree with those ad homs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 09:17 PM |
| 3 | Do you admit that most women are attracted to psychopathic/narcissistic men?Right. It's not an absolute. It's just a tendency for girls to start liking macho males more depending on their environment. Doesn't mean girls in more stable environments won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Do you admit that most women are attracted to psychopathic/narcissistic men?Don't take it personally. It's a less loaded way of saying "solipsistic" as commonly used in the pillsphere. What other way to put it when someone denies the reality of others simply because they've never experienced such things themselves? They're less aware of subjective biases, in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Do you admit that most women are attracted to psychopathic/narcissistic men?Confidence is a part of it, but there's definitely something "cool" about psychopathy. The redditors who've grown out of such fascination call it edginess now. It also has to do with age and class. When I was in one of my more ghetto high schools, one of the most popular guys was a thug. Not just a bully. He was around 19-20 yrs old having been kept back a couple years. He was a drug dealer who tried to intimidate younger kids into becoming addicts with knives and his dog. He was a rapist who fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Why aren't Christian men masculine?There is a striking difference between Japanese media and Korean media. Korean male protags are much more masc. IMO it's related to how aggressive the country is culturally and economically right now. I'd posit going at least as far back as the inception of the Hallyu. And yeah, most of the more modern ones I've known are Christian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 07:48 PM |
| 7 | Women Have Their Own TRPMen don't do gossip. What men do is called social analysis. Totally impersonal, productive social analysis. Men don't make drama. What men make is called creative strife. Yes... productive, objective-oriented creative strife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/17 12:43 AM |
| 3 | When TRPers talk about feminism vs when BP talks about TRPYes you can choose to decline. You can choose to live more modestly. Pride and competition aren't human rights or even necessities. Your weakness against a better player doesn't convince me that chess is inherently an unfair game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/17 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Have you ever lost control or had a nuclear meltdown? Witnessed or caused one?Good enough for me. Fuck that dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Who are more insecure: men or women?Height does matter, like many other factors. That being said, you're absolutely right. Thanks for the reminder. I was actually going to say that women are more insecure on avg, but, like everything else, men dominate the extremes because of our higher phenotypic variance. We even win at being more insecure. #GuyPower | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/17 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Have you ever lost control or had a nuclear meltdown? Witnessed or caused one?What did he do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/17 12:42 PM |
| 5 | Discussion: Logistics of Waiting until MarriageMale smv is different than female smv. The demand for sex from men is higher than it is for women due to many reasons. Women are also more cautious about sex. There SHOULD be lower sexual demand for men than women. If you equalize that then women lose their main advantage. Jack should have an easy enough time finding a woman. Women tolerate lack of sex more than men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/17 04:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Red Pill's detractors dislike/hate/oppose the users of r/TheRedPill more than they do The Red Pill itself.80/20 is paretto principle. It's a type of fermi estimate. The problem is that a lot of trpers themselves don't get what paretto principle or fermi estimate is. They think it's a hard and fast rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/17 11:23 PM |
| – | RPW: do you agree that women are less rational and inferior to men?Men and women cheat at approx similar rates. I think what lets them rationalize away infidelity is that men don't think they'll divorce their wives as a result of it. In any case, none of this discussion has absolute/objective measure to me. I never said male standards should be the de facto standard. If you want to argue other made up standards are more righteous then be my guest. I don't disagree with Gilligan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/17 11:10 PM |
| – | RPW: do you agree that women are less rational and inferior to men?Women are personal / subjective. Men are impersonal. Women also tend to have more compulsive empathy. One of the weirdest things about red pill is the women who identify with it. Compared to the men they have much better social skills and they seem on average smarter and funnier. Only the most moronic rpers deny that women are better at socialization. Red pill men believe men are by nature more rational, romantic, loyal, virtuous, mentally and emotionally strong, capable of unconditional love in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/17 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Do your opinions on ppd reflect how you are in real life?“The nethermost caverns,” wrote the mad Arab, “are not for the fathoming of eyes that see; for their marvels are strange and terrific. Cursed the ground where dead thoughts live new and oddly bodied, and evil the mind that is held by no head. Wisely did Ibn Schacabao say, that happy is the tomb where no wizard hath lain, and happy the town at night whose wizards are all ashes. For it is of old rumour that the soul of the devil-bought hastes not from his charnel clay, but fats and instructs the v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/17 09:30 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] What has Feminism done to help men?The most prominent MRA that talked about toxic masculinity, Warren Farrell, actually started as a feminist and iirc still considers himself a feminist. I wouldn't consider it unrelated, since many feminists do talk about it. I agree that the concept is more relevant to MRA than feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/17 09:20 PM |
| 4 | CMV: People Don't Really Change. Their Circumstances and Surroundings Change.I know athletes who got brain damage. Their personalities changed. Their circumstances and surroundings didn't change unless you include that damage. QED. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/17 03:27 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Feminists aren't the one's blowing chadGirls complain about manspreading. They also complain about nutsack adjustments. Feminists will always have a job to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/17 06:56 AM |
| 4 | What motivates men who participate in the act of "white-knighting"?Benevolent sexism and ulterior motives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/17 06:52 AM |
| 5 | What motivates men who participate in the act of "white-knighting"?Defending your own woman is no more white knighting than defending your mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/17 02:36 AM |
| 2 | What motivates men who participate in the act of "white-knighting"?If it's your own woman then it's not white knighting. If it's random women, more so than men, it's benevolent sexism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/17 02:20 AM |
| 1 | What motivates men who participate in the act of "white-knighting"?impulse (no time to think in response to a serious problem) pity benevolence excuse to fight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/17 02:18 AM |
| 3 | [Q4all] Who is Stacey Hugetatas? How does she behave? Can you guys post a pic of how she's supposed to look?I know a Stacey. 3 or more standard deviations above the norm in terms of SMV. That's an 8+ on the fiat-drok scale. Extremely significant and uncommon. She doesn't have "huge tatas", but they are well shaped. She's young, early 20s, good WHR, svelte torso, silky long hair, feminine/cute face, and perfect movement/posture because of dancing. When she gets upset, men will literally run across the gym to talk to her. I've seen this happen. It's not just a sexual thing. Even elderly men will enjoy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/17 09:29 AM |
| 1 | "There is nothing that indicates the necessity for self-repair more clearly than hatred of the opposite sex."Words might predict feelings. Feelings might help you predict behaviour. We won't have strong guarantees without mind reading. Do you agree with the quote? That nothing indicates the necessiy for self-repair more clearly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/17 09:22 PM |
| 1 | "There is nothing that indicates the necessity for self-repair more clearly than hatred of the opposite sex."The emphasis on feelings is feminine. I don't mind it but don't think it holds strong control over behaviour. I posit this holds even more true for men than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/17 09:16 PM |
| 1 | "There is nothing that indicates the necessity for self-repair more clearly than hatred of the opposite sex."That's what I'm talking about. Words are very cheap, depending on who or where they are coming from. Such words could have been said in anger or humor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/17 08:56 PM |
| 5 | "There is nothing that indicates the necessity for self-repair more clearly than hatred of the opposite sex."Opinion: The western zeitgeist is strongly focused on virtue. That's partially why many trpers say society is becoming feminized. The very idea that you can judge someone's "hatred" because a relative handful of people online are obvious ragers (or possibly trolls) when in reality for most people you'd need a mind reading device. I've been accused of being misogynist (the actual "woman-hating" definition) which is absolute nonsense and proves to me that none of them are mind readers. And really,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 07:28 PM |
| 0 | Q4TRP: How would a NAWALT look like?Which ones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 08:49 AM |
| 3 | Q4TRP: How would a NAWALT look like?Some of the girls are practical. They make sense given the conditions there. https://youtu.be/Zf2--TJYuxc?t=108 Romancing without the intention of marrying is what's screwed up. This is exactly what I see coming from prominent RPW. Chinese feminists say many of the same things RPW do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 05:56 AM |
| 7 | Q4TRP: How would a NAWALT look like?He has no kids and chooses to stay with her. Completely his own choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 05:48 AM |
| 3 | CMV: N Count Is Only Half Of The StoryI agree with you on this. People do change. They learn from their experiences. But this is also what irks me about a lot of arguments we have in this subreddit and in the irc, when people argue that the past doesn't matter. It's inconsistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Question for women: How would you react if you found out your husband had used the same ring he used to propose to you to propose to another woman who had said no before you?Care to give a couple examples? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/17 06:40 PM |
| 1 | What puts a male into the category of "the top 20% of men".Depends on what's being evaluated. Different factors matter for RMV, SMV, or other standards. I got you covered though. I got this shit calculated years ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ulc6h/what_is_the_criteria_to_be_part_of_the_top_20/cejam22/ Do note my second point in that thread, that while any one factor isn't hard to reach, it's very difficult to be in the top 20% for multiple factors simultaneously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 01:10 AM |
| 7 | RQ: sub for reverse red pill (satire) where women put down men and it's hilariousHOW THE FUCK? How the fuck are you not getting this? Women want sex less than men. Forget bp claims that women are the same as men. They don't have same libido and/or they don't like fucking strange men as much as men want to fuck stranger women. It's not an equal exchange. How the fuck is this not reaching you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Girls and Self-EsteemIt's fine. My thoughts are righteous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/17 03:52 PM |
| 5 | Q4BP: What's so bad about misogyny?Depends on the levels of prejudice. If we base our opinions on superficial prejudice while ignoring all new incoming info, that is irrational. Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 08:16 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP: What's so bad about misogyny?A priori knowledge shows that you can actually think for yourself and don't need to everything to be dead obvious. You can make inferences. You can spot patterns and use inductive reasoning. It's not perfect, obviously. It isn't "necessarily true". Knowledge isn't perfect, but anyone with half a brain can understand that. We base choices on what is "probably true". If I flip a coin twice I'm likely to get at least one heads, but it's "not necessarily true". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 08:12 PM |
| 12 | Q4BP: What's so bad about misogyny?Prejudice is rational. People incapable of prejudice are those who are incapable of making a priori knowledge. It is, however, irrational when you're incapable of processing new information. In that case, you're just stubborn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPM: Which of these women would you find most attractive?Whichever ones gives her more free time. I don't mind ambitious women, but they have to make time for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 01:55 AM |
| 3 | Campus Sex Ratios, Romantic Relationships, and Sexual BehaviorNegative appraisals for being less attentive, giving less courtship, and putting less effort in dating. It was the women who complained about this. They didn't ask men for appraisals of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/17 08:44 PM |
| 2 | What are your favorite dents?Huh. Thanks for reminding me. I haven't seen the second movie yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/17 01:38 AM |
| 4 | What are your favorite dents?"Minor" criminal past? The irc community has made you soft. What about major criminal past such as mass murder. E.g. The victims were just gang bangers anyway who hurt his dog/cat and he went a little overboard while killing them. That's all, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/17 01:25 AM |
| 2 | What are your favorite dents?My favourite dent is comparatively low SMV. I don't care if she's comparably lower SMV than her friends or mine. I have a much more objective eye than others so relativity wrt attractiveness doesn't matter so long as she's pretty enough to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/17 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (26 February 2017)And autists generally have a problem with noticing when they've shoved enough food in their face or even caring about their weight. On the other hand, there are autists who will just keep lifting like their lives depended on it and can't see imbalances in their body. There's a huge overlap between otherkin and autism. I believe a dormmate of mine (later discovered to be a furry) was autistic (fitting what you said about an overlap). That dude, to me, was pretty much set for life (decent SES back… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/17 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (26 February 2017)Some of us did realize it, but those older guys gave us smokes and other contraband. The girls would coo over them, stroke their egos, get presents, and share the spoils with us boys. We were effectively little pimps in middle school. There wasn't anything to complain about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/17 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Splitting RMV and SMV Between Looks, Status and Personality - What's Your Opinion?Good, simple format. Feminine ratios. Here's mine, and what I assume is more male. Rmv 45% personality 35% looks 20% status Smv 75% looks 20% personality 5% status | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/17 03:10 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: Splitting RMV and SMV Between Looks, Status and Personality - What's Your Opinion?From the post-wed, dread dead bedrooms of bumfuckistan to the vibrant beaches full of bitches in Ibeza where holes get their souls sucked out while sucking out the poles of proles. OJ's life is a sexual odyssey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/17 03:04 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Splitting RMV and SMV Between Looks, Status and Personality - What's Your Opinion?Dude, you're likely better off than me. I'm not worth my weight in gold (going by current gold prices) and life's hard beta buxng for /u/electra_cute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/17 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: What makes for a good relationship?From a woman, ideally: Loyalty. Children. Admiration. Enjoyment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/17 04:24 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: A pet theory on social interactionI like this theory. Change your flair from "deeply unintelligent". Boys are generally also more directly confrontational with one another. It's one of the theories for why boys have a harder time adapting to new social envs than girls. Boys bullying each other physically is far more common than girls doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 07:12 PM |
| 8 | Q4all: Why do you think men, in particular Red Pillers/alt righters perpetuate the lie that to succeed in life you must have 'a very high IQ'?"Continual focus". The OP did a search that goes at least as far back as 2 years to find a whopping several low karma posts. Some of them challenged by the very top comments: Examples of some top comments: Without that this is just ego massaging. "I'm too smart for these dumb women" ... I don't buy into doomsayers. I have plenty confidence this will either turn out to be not a problem or a problem we can solve. ... Even then, neither the OPs nor the top responses they received sound anything lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/17 11:13 PM |
| 6 | Q4all: Why do you think men, in particular Red Pillers/alt righters perpetuate the lie that to succeed in life you must have 'a very high IQ'?You did a search on IQ across the entire subreddit, and it's doubtful you read even half of them. Your post is arguing against a strawman. They aren't saying that you need high IQ to succeed in life. A couple of the posts even bemoan that the opposite seems to be true, as i speculated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/17 10:35 PM |
| 8 | Q4all: Why do you think men, in particular Red Pillers/alt righters perpetuate the lie that to succeed in life you must have 'a very high IQ'?I have almost never heard that from RPers. If anything a lot of incel influence has made them say the exact opposite, about how brains don't matter at all only looks. As for alt righters, or more accurately HBDers, they talk about how low IQ is detrimental to success. Over IQ ~125, the correlation between 125 and "success" (by wealth) drops off a cliff, and most HBDers i've talked speculated that the same applies to sexual success. I am not an ally of white nationalists, but don't think it's pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/17 10:04 PM |
| 5 | Not all thirsty dudes are like that.Plenty of men have the will power or contentment to settle for a basic diet rather than eat to excess, but hardly anyone tolerates being starved and dehydrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 06:54 PM |
| 1 | If people could be jailed for using their SO as a beta bux, how would sexual strategy be different?The law would be overturned. If this was somehow enforced by an omniscient tyrant (superior AI, God, whatever), we'd end up with a lot more incels, genetic research, and cosmetic surgery for males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/17 09:33 PM |
| 5 | If people could be jailed for using their SO as a beta bux, how would sexual strategy be different?"Jury finds Stacey guilty of being a butt slut." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/17 09:30 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Would you rather date someone smarter than you or richer than you?Smarter. Any money I need I can make for myself, and I personally don't like judging an individual's character by wealth. While money can buy a better face, slimmer body, better skin, more hair, functional limbs, etc... No money in the world can reliably buy her a better personality, more intelligence, a congruent set of ethics, matching goals, etc. Our current technology and culture don't allow it. The brain is priceless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/17 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4men: face, ass, tits, pick twoThat sounds like atlasb's theory on how cultures that historically wore more clothes had more sexual dimorphism in the face for people to be attracted to the correct gender. The ones who evolved longer without clothes had more dimorphism for the body because it isnt hidden. I like both of your theories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/17 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4men: face, ass, tits, pick twoThose clothes are eventually coming off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/17 12:03 AM |
| 3 | Q4men: face, ass, tits, pick twoYeah. Tits and ass are for the lower class. Face is trait that the upper class embrace. It's probably not an economic but caste thing. I'm not poor anymore, but my tastes are still prole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/17 10:54 PM |
| 18 | Q4all: Why should I support gender equality. What's in it for me?On the same note though, what's in it for us to oppose gender equality? It lowers the cost of labour when women flood into the workplace. They displace lower skill males Increase overall competition while eliminating intra male competition. I like women. If one's philosophy is that he doesn't have to care for those less fortunate than himself, then he shouldn't expect others to care for his own problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/17 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4RPMen: When a woman say's she "dated nerdy guys" what do you think she means?Here is a detailed analysis that you'll find interesting: https://slackprop.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/on-geek-versus-nerd/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/17 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: face, ass, tits, pick twoThe reversed Beethoven! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/17 07:25 AM |
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