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PPD, it’s been real! It’s been a pleasure getting to know and debating with some of you. 😊 I’m going to try to stop posting here, as some of the vitriol thrown around is making it less fun. I hope that I’ve helped some people with my posts, even if only for a moment. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:50 AM
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Ok, I’m cool with no longer chatting with you ever again. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:11 PM
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What do you think has changed so much in the last 5-10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:05 PM
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Nope. Women have only had active voices in politics for a short period of time. They definitely advocated for legal changes to address DV, but they were negotiating with those in power: men. We aren’t going to convince each other on this, though. So let’s get back to talking about urban design.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:04 PM
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That’s because they didn’t design the whole DV industry. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:59 PM
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Urban design is very interesting and the psychology of cities even more so. I could definitely see there being social issues that are driven by men designing all our cities (just like there are social issues caused by racial disparities in urban design).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:55 PM
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She sounds way too difficult. Don’t settle for someone who treats you poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:30 PM
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No washer and dryer will fit all that in even two loads. And that’s ignoring all the work involved with gathering the laundry, stripping sheets, making beds, folding, pressing, and putting away all those items. Laundry for a family takes hours to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:06 PM
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If you’re doing laundry for your family, it takes far more than one load. Say a family of four, every week you have four sets of clothes, three sets of sheets, lots of bath towels and dish towels. Unless you’re doing it multiple times a week, laundry takes the whole day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:47 AM
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Nope, comparing it by age cohort shows a decrease in younger divorce and an increase in grey divorce. https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/allred-age-variation-div-rate-fp-19-13.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:26 AM
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What you’re looking for is the “adjusted divorce rate.” Here’s some data on it: https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/college-of-arts-and-sciences/NCFMR/documents/RBT/charting-us-divorce-2008-2021.pdf https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/marino-divorce-rate-US-geographic-variation-2021-fp-22-26.html We’re still seeing reduced divorces, even when considering reduced marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:33 AM
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That’s pretty weird (especially assuming you live together), but good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:09 AM
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I don’t think you need to get heated and raise your voice for it to be considered an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:06 AM
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This seems like a semantic issue, then. Every couple eventually has disagreements that both partners find hard to compromise on, which is what I would consider an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:03 AM
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Ideally you shouldn’t have much arguing the first year, but ultimately there will be disagreements that aren’t so easy to compromise on. That’s how it is with every relationship, not just romantic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:59 PM
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Yep. I have friends who are former Mennonites and they do not speak very kindly about that aspect of the religion, among others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:33 PM
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So you're mad at children being given clothing that you don't like? Yep, I am. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:45 PM
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Children can’t leave their religion whenever they want and adults who leave the religion lose their family connections. It isn’t an easy decision to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:41 PM
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Lol when I went to Mormon Girls’ Camp one of the activities was land watersports (sprinklers, water guns, etc.). We were not allowed to wear only our bathing suits during that activity, since men working at the camp might be able to see us. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:37 PM
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In my view, they should have the ability to wear what they want. Right now, they do not. They’re required by their religious community to wear something specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:29 PM
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Sure, which is why I said “most” states. Though looking here, the country seems to be split perfectly half and half. So I was wrong about most. I support Romeo and Juliet laws because they make sense and protect teens. Laws that give 16 year olds blanket ability to consent to sex with significantly older people while preventing them from having sex at 15 with their peers are illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:27 PM
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The kids definitely know they’re different and no doubt resent it. I grew up Mormon and resented that I couldn’t wear tank tops, short shorts, or two-pieces, for example. Once they get to adulthood, they can choose whether they stay in that society. But like the Amish, if they leave they are typically alienated by their loved ones (but less severely than the Amish do). One of my old bosses was a lesbian ex-Mennonite who had fortunately been “adopted” by her partner’s family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:59 PM
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Just went for a quick run and saw a Mennonite family out riding their bikes. It makes me so angry that the mom and daughters have to wear stupid fucking 1800s dresses and bonnets, while the dad and sons get to dress pretty much like ordinary people. So unfair, especially when exercising. You can pry my running leggings out of my cold, dead hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:47 PM
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The right to protect their bodies from the men who “need” sex. Some of the guys here who claim that sex is a need unabashedly advocate for forced sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:28 PM
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From a female perspective, that sounds pretty similar. Men cold approach women on a night out with the primary goal of sex, which they hope women will exchange if they give enough compliments, drinks, and the potential of love. Strippers approach men on a night out with the primary goal of money, which they hope you’ll exchange if they give you enough compliments, drinks, and the potential of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:25 PM
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Moving the age of consent up to 18 does not necessarily prevent teens from having sex, since most states build in Romeo and Juliet laws that allow teens to sleep with those within 3 years of their age. A 15 year old with a 17 year old is fine. A 16 year old with a 27 year old is predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:41 PM
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I wouldn’t respect someone who would give me an allowance to spend time with me, despite finding me dumb and boring. Have some standards, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:33 PM
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The shitty thing is that a lot of people advocate for that to remain legal. The 16 year old age of consent is legal in a good portion of US states, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:19 PM
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But the severity of the damage of each crime isn’t similar. Do you think that Mark Pearson’s trauma after false accusation was as serious as the trauma he would have endured if he had been raped in that same subway terminal? And then had to deal with the social stigma of reporting that crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:42 PM
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Because false reporting and rape are different crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:09 PM
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You’re the one who claimed that most of the women in your life were single mothers. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:08 PM
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We probably shouldn’t discuss this further, as your answers here are already majorly undermining my opinion of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:07 PM
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According to the study, around 50% are closed for not having enough evidence. Those listed as inactive or exceptional clearance typically have enough evidence to consider arrest and prosecution, but don’t move forward for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:05 PM
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Unfortunately, that irreversible reputation damage happens for those who report rape, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:58 PM
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It can be irritating sometimes and very welcome at others. Sometimes you just don’t want to be touched, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:56 PM
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Then how can you possibly know what behavior can be attributed to single motherhood and which is better linked to personality, womanhood, or motherhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:50 PM
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I think it’s more likely that women close to you simply didn’t tell you about their experiences. Women are more likely to share those things with their close female friends and their male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:31 PM
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But I have never seen or heard anyone I remotely know being falsely accused of rape or woman accusing someone of rape This is true for me, too, even growing up in the west. I know multiple people who told me about their rapes long after the fact, but they never made public accusations or tried to bring the person to justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:12 PM
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You should do some research on it. I doubt it operates that differently from the west. Either there are no consequences for the rapist because the victim fears personal consequences for reporting, or accusations regularly happen (and a percentage of those will be false).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:05 PM
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How does sexual assault reporting work in your country?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:01 PM
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The same reason some people pray for guidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:58 PM
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Considering that the median sentence served by convicted rapists is 4.2 years, the a 2 year sentence for false reporting doesn’t seem that unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:40 PM
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names of accused shouldn't be in newspaper or any media until case is over I think that’s definitely reasonable. Our justice system publicizes crimes way too much, IMO. there should be big punishments if allegations are proven false, equal to potential punishment for accused. That seems a bit much, though. Proving a negative is hard to do, which is why there have been many cases where people charged with false accusations have been later found to actually have been telling the truth. And fraud o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:16 PM
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So what are you proposing to change that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:04 PM
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You read something incorrectly. I quoted the correct statement. I think it's very scary that one woman can damage your reputation for life just by lying like this And I think it’s very scary that so many rapists face no consequences at all. Do you have a solution that will reasonably address both of our fears?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:59 PM
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That’s the point, though. Some of those may be false reports, which is why they don’t lead to arrest. It’s difficult to put rapists in jail, even when there’s substantial evidence. False reports typically don’t lead to conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:33 PM
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Cases often take years to prosecute, and sometimes victims don’t want to relive the assault over and over again, especially when they’ve moved on with their lives It’s definitely tricky. Most people are trying to heal and move on with their lives and bringing their rapist or abuser to justice sometimes requires setting that healing aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:31 PM
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teenage girls and women Nope, the study includes women, too. It’s a really tricky situation, since convicting actual rapists is just as important as keeping innocent people out of jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:28 PM
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because innocent people might go to jail. You have way too much faith in the justice system. For every 100 rapes reported to police, fewer than 20 lead to arrest. Fewer than 10 lead to conviction. And that’s only considering reported rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:01 PM
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You really don’t know what you’re talking about. But I hope you get what you’re looking for, as I would hate for those women and their children to feel the resentment you have for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:32 PM
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Eh, I don’t think B is correct. It is pretty amazing how much your future economic situation is predicted by your childhood zip code, though. Check out this interactive map on the subject: https://www.opportunityatlas.org
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:13 PM
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Both men and women are treated as disposable resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:01 PM
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Nah, it shows that they want to understand the claim you’re making. If you just make statements without anything to back them up, no one will take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:53 AM
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Not having teen dating experience is only a problem if you believe you are not the norm. Feeling different is the issue, not having not dated during your teens. Despite what Hollywood would like us to believe, teenage relationships are not that common. In a Pew survey from 2015, 64% of teens indicated they had never been in a romantic relationship of any kind and only 19% are currently in a romantic relationship. Teenage sex is even less common, with only 30% of the 35% with teenage dating exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:44 AM
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There isnt any kind of social benefit, it doesn't lead to being treated better by the woman (the opposite infact), there simply is no reason. This definitely isn’t true. Hell, I asked my stepdad to walk me down the aisle, since he was more of my father than my bio dad was. My mother has a fantastic relationship with my stepdad and I’m very glad they were able to find each other. They have me, my older brother, and two children they had together. They’re hitting 30 years married this year. Hopefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:03 AM
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It’s only a problem if you believe you are not the norm. Feeling different is the issue, not having not dated during your teens. Despite what Hollywood would like us to believe, teenage relationships are not that common. In a Pew survey from 2015, 64% of teens indicated they had never been in a romantic relationship of any kind and only 19% are currently in a romantic relationship. Teenage sex is even less common, with only 30% of the 35% with teenage dating experience reporting having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:29 AM
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Can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:16 AM
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Much less work involved than moving to another country or helping someone immigrate here and adapt to our culture. Less expectation that you will care for and bring over her adult relatives, too. I grew up with a stepdad and stepmom and they were both great. They could easily pass off the serious stuff to our biological parents. I have a much better relationship with my stepdad than I do my dad, but that definitely depends on individual circumstances. My stepmom is more like a cool aunt. Marryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:22 PM
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I had an ex boyfriend who asked me to parallel park his car. 😬 Agreed on all three of your icks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:42 PM
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Why do you think I’m blaming him? He seemed to be expressing frustration with the lack of chatting, which was exacerbated by the type of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:28 PM
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Agreed. It seems like a tremendous headache. And bringing someone here also has its difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:14 PM
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Dealing with cultural differences, funding your wife’s family, and dealing with immigration issues is likely much more of a headache for a much longer period of time. There’s a reason so few people do it, while you see blended families all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:10 PM
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That’s strange. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:22 PM
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You think finding a woman abroad and dealing with the cultural difficulties/familial obligations involved would be easier and preferable to being a stepfather?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:46 PM
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So if you get to your 40s and are still unpartnered (and women in their twenties are no longer interested), who will you choose? Someone unattractive to most others or someone who’s had some love, but struck out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:56 PM
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Lol nope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:45 PM
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Ok, but men here are trying to get people to care about those “needs” and change laws and culture to give them easier access to sex. It’s not going to happen, fortunately, and is disgustingly obtuse in a different way. Their “psychological/social needs” conflict with our need for physical safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:43 PM
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Yeah, watching movies or shows aren’t great for a first date, since you don’t get as much face time. Glad you enjoyed the play and sorry the date didn’t continue further.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:36 PM
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People rarely care about strangers’ “physiological needs that make them not die immediately.” Why would you think they would care about their social needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:29 PM
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It’s always hilarious when men think they can identify which women are high n-count before dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:18 PM
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The statewide sample of attorneys who responded to the family law survey had collectively represented fathers seeking custody in over 2,100 cases in the last 5 years. They reported that the fathers obtained primary physical custody in 29% of the cases, and joint physical custody in an additional 65% of the cases. Thus, when fathers actively sought physical custody, mothers obtained primary physical custody in only 7% of cases. The attorneys reported that the fathers had been primary caretakers i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:56 AM
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No, nor do I. But we regularly bring nonpenetrative vibrators in to help out. He likes how they feel and so do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:45 AM
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You need to push yourself out of that vanilla box, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:30 AM
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No. As I mentioned earlier, 95% of custody cases do not involve the court. Men who seek shared custody in court get it in over 90% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:29 AM
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Is satisfying that desire more important than bringing her to orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:20 AM
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Ok. So why are men who make only 60% of family earnings also choosing not to pursue custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:15 AM
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What’s the difference, honestly? If you’re having sex and using a vibrator to stimulate her clit instead of your hand, it’s just less work for her or you and a greater chance of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:12 AM
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That’s what we’ve been talking about since the beginning. 🤦‍♀️ Why divorced men choose not to pursue custody of their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:05 AM
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I doubt it. My sexual tastes aren’t that outside of the norm. Married couples often try out some kinky shit, to keep things fun and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:04 AM
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Lol you are hilarious. 😂 If you want to believe that divorced men are being forced by their ex-wives to work full-time, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:01 AM
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Ah, I thought that was a silly argument. Porn isn’t the same thing as a toy. But porn is also a fun thing to try out with your partner. It can add some interesting flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:59 AM
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Yes, definitely from other women. Their mothers and sisters, especially. My close friends who are Korean and Japanese have dealt with this a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:56 AM
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Be more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:55 AM
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That’s not the case, though, since most families are dual-earner (as I pointed out earlier). Most couples have a 60/40 income split, with the lower earner taking on more childcare duties. Men could take on half those duties and have a 50/50 split or be the lower earner, but most do not make that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:54 AM
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Women have the power to marry men who aren't career oriented and are willing to take on the household duties. Most don't have the desire to do so. If this is the case, then what are we arguing for? It seems we agree that most men don’t want to give up their career to care for children. So why is it surprising that they make the same choice when determining custody agreements?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:50 AM
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Asian women get a lot of flack for interracial dating. Hell, they even have people upset at them if they date the wrong kind of Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:47 AM
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Genuinely, do you believe that women have the power to or desire to force their husbands to work full-time after marriage? If they were to take one day off a week or shift to WFH or flexible scheduling after they have children, do you think they would get upset? If so, those women aren’t like any I’ve known. Men have personal agency. Suggesting that women make all household decisions is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:43 AM
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It doesn’t get any easier than on a college campus. Strike up a convo when waiting in the dining hall. Figure out if you have mutual friends with girls you find attractive and show up at a party where they’re likely to be. Talk to people in your classes and befriend men and women who could connect you with women you’re interested in. Get a work study job that involves talking to other students.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:40 AM
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Well, we’re talking about child custody. If most men are unwilling to go part time during marriage to care for their children, why would they suddenly have a change of heart after divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:35 AM
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The majority of marriages are dual-earner, with men typically earning around 60% of household earnings. That’s exactly what I was talking about earlier. If you misunderstood, apologies. Only around 20% of couples have a sole male breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:28 AM
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Census data: https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/college-of-arts-and-sciences/NCFMR/documents/FP/FP-13-05.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:20 AM
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If the women don't go for it then it doesn't matter what men want. Men aren't making that choice, the choice is already made for them. The majority of marriages are dual-earner, with men typically earning around 60% of household earnings. Men could absolutely take a greater share in childcare and housework without disrupting much, but most choose not to. Shocker that they continue that behavior after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:10 AM
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People who view toys as competitors instead of assistants are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:43 AM
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Don’t really know his views, but from a quick Google I’d rank his body high and his face mid-low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:26 PM
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Lots of men from my generation would be perfectly fine with being the primary caregiver. If that were the case, more of them would be doing it. Whether it’s due to outside pressures (like seeking women or societal expectation) or something internal, most men aren’t making that choice. Those pressures continue after divorce, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:53 PM
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How many men do you think are willing to work part time and stop chasing their dreams to care for their children? Regardless of marital status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:36 PM
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Agreed. Beer goggles are a thing for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:42 PM
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Ah, bummer about the wine. Funnily, I was thinking you were a lot younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:37 PM
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I used to be that way with tequila, but fortunately I grew out of it. Hopefully you’ll have the same experience with red wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:29 PM
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I used to hate red wines, but they grew on me. They’re often lush and velvety, which is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:14 PM
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Women who “give” sex typically aren’t having great experiences. Sex should end with both partners satisfied and craving more in the future, but that is often not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:13 PM
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Not a wine fan? That’s ok, though it’s worth a try. This drink reminds me of the wine slushies you see in the summertime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:11 PM
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“Using” someone for sex isn’t typically referring to rape. More like: If you agree to sex and experience a few minutes of painful, awkward thrusting instead of a mutually gratifying experience Someone says they love you (or another intense emotion) then ghosts after sex You’re literally being paid to be used for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:09 PM
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A stupid, delicious summery drink to try: 3/4 cup Frozen mixed berries 1/2 scoop fruity energy powder (I used G Fuel) Red wine, enough to go to the top of the berries Blend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:58 PM
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I don’t understand what you mean. The stats show that couples where the man makes significantly more than the women are not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:23 PM
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The minority of couples. According to 2011 census data, 65% of married couples are dual earners. Among dual earners, wives on average contribute 40% of family earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:20 PM
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In 62% of marriages, the man makes more. That does not mean he makes significantly more. I’m talking about couples where the higher earner makes double or more, or those where one spouse isn’t working at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:13 PM
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Why do you think advice should be directed towards you, when you are obviously not the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:51 PM
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https://www.asanet.org/wp-content/uploads/savvy/journals/CS/Jun15ASRFeature.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:46 PM
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Maybe that’s because men who make less than them are significantly more likely to cheat. Most men don’t like it when their relationship bucks traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:44 PM
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Lol, there are women who make the same amount or more than you do. Perhaps not many, but there are some.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:33 PM
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Better advice is don’t have children or be with someone who makes significantly less than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:20 PM
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Exactly. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:01 PM
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This is a topic that irks me, too. My dad moved literally across the ocean when I was 3 and my brother was 4. He didn’t care enough to live close by and I know many others who grew up under similar circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:44 PM
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Q4All: If you are someone who complains about gender disparities in custody, are you being disingenuous on purpose or do you genuinely not realize how few men are willing to make lifestyle changes to care for their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:25 PM
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Hmm. I’d recommend tea tree oil shampoo. It’s great if you exercise a lot or go multiple days between washing your hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:13 PM
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What shampoo makes your hair fall out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:10 PM
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Come on. You know a good portion of men don’t seek it because they don’t want to make the necessary changes to their lifestyle, like going part time for work or living in the same school district as the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:55 PM
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The average child support payment is around $400 a month. If you’ve cared for kids at all, you know that’s not nearly enough to cover the expense of caring for, feeding, and clothing a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:09 PM
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It also includes my parents who got married in the 80s and many others who got married in the early 2000s. Definitely still a relevant swath of time and suggesting otherwise is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:41 AM
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So perhaps you should advise those who are in the top 5% of earners to be extra cautious around marriage, not the median man making $60k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:38 AM
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If you view men choosing not to care for their children as a mark against women, you need to do some serious soul-searching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:27 AM
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This one reviews data from couples who divorced between 1984-2015. Were you hoping just to look at those who divorced between 2016-2020?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:08 AM
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Over 95% of custody agreements are decided by the couple, not the court. If men want shared custody, they should seek it more often. Most aren’t willing to go part time to take care of their children. Only about 10% of divorce cases require alimony. It’s definitely not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:54 AM
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Lol she obviously knows that’s not your biggest weakness. Most of use have gone on interviews before and know how that works. 😂 It was a stupid question for her to ask, though. Of course you weren’t going to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:31 AM
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Studies show that women are disproportionately impacted financially after divorce, often due to the financial impact of caring for children (both during the marriage and afterwards). Women benefit financially from marriage, but not from divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:28 AM
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Most men don’t use condoms while receiving blow jobs, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:22 AM
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Patriarchy simply means that men hold the majority of positions of power throughout culture and government. That’s still the case throughout the west. It makes no claims about whether life is easier for men or women. It simply means that more men hold positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:21 PM
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Why do you think it exists? Physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:18 PM
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Goodness gracious, we’re simply talking about what patriarchy means. Agreeing that patriarchy means men holding the majority of positions of power =/= not caring about the common man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:05 PM
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Do you believe that African immigrants to the west are no longer impacted by patriarchal norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:56 PM
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Yes, of course. Patriarchy simply refers to a society or culture that is headed by men. It doesn’t mean always good for the common man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:53 PM
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Most of them. I can’t think of one mainstream religion that is headed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:45 PM
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Religion, to start. Unfortunately, it’s still a major force in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:37 PM
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If it will make you feel better, then sure. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:25 PM
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What happened 80 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:24 PM
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Those who don’t “believe” in the history of patriarchy are delusional. You can argue that the patriarchy no longer controls most women in the west, but denying that it exists at all is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:01 PM
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The gene predicts risk-taking and physicality across all domains, not just promiscuity or infidelity. The gene is associated with higher levels of exercise and lower levels of dementia, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:15 PM
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Yeah. It happens fairly frequently in areas with a lot of locations. They’re closing half of their stores in the city, with the other half remaining open.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:34 AM
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Haven’t they closed around 500 stores in the last 10 years? A drop in the bucket, but still a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:31 AM
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There are female Chads now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:48 AM
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Be the change you wish to see 🌟🏳️‍🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:41 AM
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Come up with an actual plan. God helps those who help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:12 AM
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The things you mentioned are shared by many families with working mothers. Tradwife = a woman who attempts to model herself after idealized women in the past, ultimately realizing all the ways that lifestyle sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:09 AM
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If you didn’t care about my answer, why did you ask the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:03 AM
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What’s your plan for getting out if things turn bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:01 AM
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Strong loving families being a loving wife and mother That has nothing to do with tradwifery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:58 AM
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What do you have against Chicago?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:56 AM
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Me neither. I’m married, so it feels inappropriate to respond to DMs from random men. Plenty of fun chat to be had out in the open.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:55 AM
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Lol that wasn’t personal, it was an insult against all Libertarians. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:48 AM
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Why do you want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:31 AM
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The one that graduated. 🤦‍♀️ Like I said earlier, teens can easily get service jobs these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:22 AM
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Or more likely, she just doesn’t like who you are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:05 AM
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I don’t really care about college, I’m just advocating they finish high school. That’s what I’ve been advocating throughout this comment chain, so I’m not sure why you’re going on about college. And what do they get out of finishing high school? A hell of a lot. If you didn’t agree with that, you wouldn’t be pushing your children to do well in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:53 PM
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Lol, I had no idea. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:06 PM
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Depends on the district, state, and specialty. In my state, good teaching jobs are very competitive, since they’re well-paying union jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:37 PM
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Thank you! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:53 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:13 PM
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Fascist pushover?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:10 PM
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Hell I'd hire someone who went to work at 16 and dropped out OVER someone with a 4 year degree in a useless study. Well, at least you’re consistent. Most people do not do this. Looking at the lifetime earnings for those with less than a HS diploma, there are significant income differences just from finishing HS. Graduating college adds much more. It’s illogical to advise teens to prioritize food service jobs over high school. Is that what you’re doing for your children? And if not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:04 PM
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I teach high schoolers, if that’s what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:00 PM
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Thank you! That’s really nice advice. 🌟
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:56 PM
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When you meet someone you actually connect with and you’re both ready for a relationship, it’s like that. The first three months should be all excitement and fun, not assholery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:55 PM
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Well what can I say, I like to beat myself up about things. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:50 PM
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Teaching. We’re moving, so I’m looking for a new district.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:43 PM
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Unfortunately, tons of people are fat and it makes their faces look bad. Scrawny guys with subpar faces do benefit from building muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:43 PM
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Libertarian jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:38 PM
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Lol unless you’re deformed, your face is probably good enough. A lot of people are just too fat or too scrawny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:37 PM
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Interview done! I think it went well, but who knows. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:34 PM
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They’re looking for something to blame that doesn’t ask for self-improvement. Being short can’t be improved, so it’s a great scapegoat for those who don’t want to improve in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:33 PM
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Food service jobs in my area are always begging for applicants, so that isn’t really a problem for many teens. Fast food and fast casual places have exploded as teen labor participation has fallen. There just aren’t enough low cost workers to go around. Both of my receptionists have college degrees. I didn't hire them because they had them. Would you have hired them without a high school diploma?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:32 PM
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Lol exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:21 PM
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Yes, but I still feel bad. It doesn’t represent the kind of person I’d like to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:21 PM
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You’re right, it’s tiring. Dating fucking sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:57 PM
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I did that fairly recently to a coworker and I still feel bad about it. Dude was reading a historical romance novel, so I made a joke. I shouldn’t have done that, it was shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:42 PM
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They’re looking for something to blame that doesn’t ask for self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:33 PM
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Teen incarceration has significantly dropped as dropout rates have declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:30 PM
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Teen labor force participation has been on a long-term downward trend. Since reaching a peak of 57.9 percent in 1979, the rate fell to 52.0 percent in 2000, just prior to the 2001 recession. The rate then dropped rapidly during and after the 2007–09 recession to reach 34.1 percent in 2011, and since then, it has stayed within a narrow range. The latest projection of labor force participation from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) points toward an even lower teen participation rate by 202…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:02 PM
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Nope. It was caused by the extreme expansion of fast food and fast casual restaurants, a decline in teenage workforce participation, and a reduced dropout rate. https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2017/article/teen-labor-force-participation-before-and-after-the-great-recession.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:54 PM
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This kind of thing makes me so angry: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/18/iowa-senate-passes-child-labor-bill-letting-teens-work-more-jobs-longer-hours/70121615007/ The bill would let kids under 16 work up to six hours a day, two more than the current maximum of four hours a day. And they could work longer into the evening — until 9 p.m. during the school year and until 11 p.m. during the summer. Sixteen and 17-year-olds could work the same number of hours per day as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:47 PM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:41 PM
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Just cast a wide net and see what nibbles. Work on your sense of humor and overall confidence and you’ll find plenty of women find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:40 PM
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Haha just digging further, aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:38 PM
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Plenty of UMC people suck, too. Point is that wealth and status past a certain point doesn’t usually lead to happiness. It leads to headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:35 PM
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Lol and you guys claim women are rude to ugly men 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:11 PM
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What’s surprising about it? The 60% single statistic doesn’t mean that all those men are sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:57 PM
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Warm and welcoming. You want her to trust you enough to tell you the shitty things that may eventually occur, not feel defensive and worried about worsening your opinion of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:55 PM
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Yep. 70% is most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:54 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-4-in-2021-more-faith-less-sex-why-are-so-many-unmarried-young-adults-not-having-sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:46 PM
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Thank you! These are great reminders. Drafting some questions up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:27 PM
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Well, yeah. People living in poverty want to get as far away from their upbringing as possible. Upper Middle Class people know that rich people kind of suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:26 PM
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I have a second-round interview this afternoon and it’s freaking me out. There should be one more round of interviews (or a sample lesson, depending on the district) before an offer. What are your best interview tips? Keep in mind that this is a Zoom interview, as I live 4 hours away from the prospective employer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:49 PM
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Lol clean up your own mess
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:14 PM
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Agreed, that’s what I think. It doesn’t matter who we pay it to, especially since having single payer means better cost negotiations for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:13 PM
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It’s so sad how common that is throughout the world. https://au.news.yahoo.com/beyond-disturbing-antiassault-billboard-sparks-controversy-after-resurfacing-125933446.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:11 PM
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That’s not accurate, fortunately. We do pay more for private healthcare plans than Europeans do for public plans, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:09 PM
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Health insurance doesn’t operate the same way as car insurance. Perhaps you think it should operate that way, but that’s another discussion. Preexisting conditions do not up the cost of just your premiums; they up the cost of everyone’s premiums.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:08 PM
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Lol we can’t control what we pay monthly by being healthy. Insurance is funded by the healthy paying for the unhealthy, just like universal healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:51 PM
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Most custody agreements are decided by the couple, not the court.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:38 PM
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Do you think this is sustainable such polarisation? The intensity of the polarization is relatively recent (the 1980s is when it really started to build). I just think it’s part of the ups and downs of nations, especially considering how young the US is comparatively. We also have a culture that elevates self-governance over cooperation and religious freedom over secularity, which creates a lot of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:37 PM
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We already pay plenty for health insurance monthly (whether as part of our income package or self pay), so what’s the difference? Cutting the fat of insurance administration would bring that down even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:30 PM
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Perhaps more men should seek shared or primary custody of their children. Then they’d share the benefits and downsides of being a caregiver.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:24 PM
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We’re speaking from very different realities, so that makes sense. Most of Europe is willing to admit that universal healthcare, paid family leave, subsidized higher education, and gun restrictions are good for society. Most of the US is not. US politics is much more polarized, so that extends to how we discuss issues surrounding gender, family, and things done for the public good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:21 PM
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Women in Nordic countries definitely participate in the workforce. They have some of the highest percentages of female politicians in the world. And they have plenty of women who choose career over being at home with their children. I'm saying a significant portion of women feels like they have to do that for moral reasons despite maybe not truly wanting that. Completely disagree. Most women I know who are SAHMs are bored out of their minds and end up joining MLM schemes and other predatory busi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:36 PM
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I also didn't say women don't have career aspirations. I just said they desire different things on average than men. For example they will find more enjoyment in caring emotionally for others and especially children on average. So then why are you advocating against women prioritizing their careers? Many women want this, which is why they are seeking it out. Rebranding it as “brainwashing” instead of choice is bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:15 PM
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Here in Europe this idea that women have to make a lot of money and have a lot of casual sex is way less pronounced. And yet the European Union has way more women in political power than in the US, as well as the same labor force percentage. Biology, statistics, philosophy. Historical statistics and philosophy is a terrible way to determine women’s desires. What in biology says that women don’t have career aspirations? As far as social science goes, Maslow’s hierarchy places achievement, respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:56 PM
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Well yeah that completely sucks but maybe that's also related to what they are talking about? The people who fight against paid maternity leave are the conservatives. They want women to have to choose between having a child and having a functioning career. Women are very ambitious, just more often about caring for children than about careers. Lol no. Where did you get that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:36 PM
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In the Nordics this doesn't happen and despite having the highest gender equality scores the women there often choose to prioritise their children over their career. This is easier to do when you have paid maternity leave. You don’t have to give one up for the other. In the US, paid maternity leave is not required and many women take less than two weeks off after the birth of their child. It’s very sad and leads to one of the highest maternity mortality rates in the OECD. I do think western wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:29 PM
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No. Modern women are a hell of a lot better off than they were in 1950.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:19 PM
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Ancestry DNA testing is super cool, TBH, especially for folks who have some gaps in their history. My dad is adopted, so doing the test gave me way more insight into our background and even connected me with some previously unknown cousins. It’s very interesting to imagine who he would have been if his parents hadn’t given him up. I wonder if he would have had a happier life growing up with knowledge of his history. It’s doubtful that I would exist in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:15 PM
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Pomade or hair putty can help a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:40 PM
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What’s the process in Belgium for challenging paternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:34 PM
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How does it get more accessible than ordering a test on Amazon? They’re not talking about accessibility. They’re talking about mandates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:13 PM
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You guys know you can just order paternity tests online and send away for the results? No need to make anything mandatory, since you have a 6-month window after signing the birth certificate to challenge it. Seems more logical to focus your efforts on expanding the 6-month window than mandating testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:57 AM
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Divorce doesn’t do that; having emotionally distraught, absent parents does that. If you stay in your children’s lives after divorce and breakup amicably, then there’s no reason your children can’t continue to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:33 AM
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Good for five years or less, to try to salvage the connection. Bad if it continues past that. Better to divorce, but make an effort to remain in the kids’ lives as involved co-parents. Unhappy people don’t make for positive role models or effective parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:17 AM
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how to start a relationship from scratch and get dates or sustain a relationship with someone they are already dating Why do you believe the skills you need for each are so different? They’ve also watched many relationships blossom over time, outside of their own. Grandma and Grandpa can definitely advise you on dating strategies. Whether we know how to listen to them is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:13 AM
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The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Part of enjoying dancing is dancing with the opposite sex. It’s like sparring in conversation or having sex. There’s a rhythm to it that’s undeniably fun, sexy, and animalistic. Does this really not look like fun to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbgt5byRQUs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:08 AM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:56 AM
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Medical experts have found that healthy body fat percentages for men and women are very different. Women have a higher percentage of “essential fat,” partly to maintain fertility and ovulation. Men are much more efficient at building muscle and do not need that added fat for fertility purposes. Ideal body fat for men is somewhere between 10-20%, while for women it’s between 20-30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:49 AM
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Imagine thinking dancing is only for girls 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:43 AM
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Short hair vs. long hair doesn’t make much of a difference for combing and washing, unless you’re talking ass-length hair (which is way too long, IMO). Blow drying can be more difficult at shorter lengths, since it’s more noticeable if it gets out of place from sleeping. I am not envious watching older ladies style their hair, as blow drying long hair takes much less finesse. You also can’t stick it in a ponytail, which is my nightmare. Brittle hair has only been a problem for me when I’ve gone …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:40 AM
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Congrats! 🎉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:35 AM
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You have to get it cut more often, so it’s more expensive. It also can be trickier to style, but that isn’t always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:32 AM
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Even less time than that. I should get my bangs trimmed every 4 weeks, but I usually push it to 6 weeks (fortunately, a bang trim is $15). Truly short hair can be much less between appointments, especially if it’s dyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:28 AM
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Ooh yeah. Short hair is so high maintenance!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:23 AM
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A person who's been in a successful relationship for the last 30 years has almost zero useful active dating advice for the modern day That’s ridiculous. They’ve likely been on more dates, had more sex, and got in more relationship arguments than anyone else in here. That doesn’t mean that they will always know best. But saying they don’t have recent experience is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:22 AM
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We think it looks pretty, too. That’s why we put in the effort to maintain it. I don’t care if my hair is generic and unoriginal. Nothing new under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:17 AM
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Chubby men are attractive to women, but that caps at lower body fat percentages. Blame biological needs and hormonal differences for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:15 AM
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But the higher earning spouse also wants the more expensive house and is willing to contribute more of their salary to get that. If you genuinely want to make things 50/50 (seems like a lot of work to get nothing), 50/50 by salary percentage seems reasonable to me. So if we’re both contributing no more than 30% of our salaries, that would be around $1250 for the higher earner and $480 for the lower earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:11 AM
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You’re misunderstanding me. Say I make $150k and my spouse makes $50k and our monthly house payment is $2000. If we split 50/50, then my contribution to the mortgage would be less than 25% of my take home pay. For my spouse, it would be over 70% of his take home pay. That’s not reasonable and is an unfair thing to ask of your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:05 AM
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Grifters who parlay their pain into profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:57 PM
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Splitting 50/50 has its own issues. Does the person who contributes 70% of their income to the purchase deserve more than the person who contributes 30%? They’re certainly giving up more to fund the purchase. What if the person contributing 70% of their income is still contributing less financially than the person contributing 30%?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:34 PM
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Ok, fair enough. You do hear a bit more of that in machismo-heavy cultures. The double-edged sword of restrictive gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:20 PM
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Have you ever ended up in that scenario? Are you in a position to be giving advice on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:10 PM
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That this isn’t the common problem you’re holding it up to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:00 PM
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His response made my point. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:54 PM
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I was also weirded out by that. Like if I started a new job that asked me to work longer hours, we would need some changes. But that doesn’t necessarily mean him doing more work. It could be us hiring a maid to lessen both of our loads. If I got a raise but was working the same hours, only difference is that our overall standard of living might increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:54 PM
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Do you have lots of experience with situations like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:19 PM
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Haha yes, we are not lacking in that!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:57 PM
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Lol what a funny way to put it. 😂 But he’s not wrong about the vaginal canal. There’s definitely less sensation there than other spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:50 PM
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No, it would also be sad if a woman didn’t care about love or companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:47 PM
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That’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:39 PM
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Most people think about their spouse as a friend and as a member of their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:32 PM
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Not caring about love and companionship is even sadder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:25 PM
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That’s even more bizarre. One partner being expected to provide more affection because of a disparity in income is very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:25 PM
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When splitting household duties, income is less important than hours worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:37 PM
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I don’t know anyone who lives a soft life. Even wealthy people have their demons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:55 PM
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I don’t talk to my dad anymore, but I’d say that experience is pretty uncommon. I’m still very close with my mom and stepdad, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:20 PM
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No. It makes for an enjoyable TV show, but is not something we would actually like to live through.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:58 PM
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Can you be more specific? There’s a lot going on, as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:56 PM
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Olay Watermelon is my favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:50 PM
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It’s more the idealized version of what men wanted women to be, a la “The Angel in the House.”. Life was certainly not easier back then, but women were expected to ignore that strife and project a sense of innocence and sweetness that ignored all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:43 PM
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Oh lol, I should be more careful with my reading 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:52 PM
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What do you mean by “women who are against men?” Being against Red Pill is not the same as being against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:19 PM
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Definitely. Shaming them for their weight will only make them want to hide away in their bedrooms, getting fatter. Much better to encourage them to fully take part in social and athletic activities, regardless of their size. Good on you for getting to the gym! Unless you’re really enormous, most people won’t be focusing on you. They’re there to focus on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:59 AM
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My husband works in tech. There are tons of attractive guys working in tech that get plenty of play. Most guys who are attractive working in tech will also be attractive as blue collar workers. They’ll probably have higher physical fitness, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:40 AM
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Going back to school in your mid-20s is much easier than attending college at 18-22. It’s like you pressed easy mode, since your brain is so much more prepared to actually focus on school and get shit done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:29 AM
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It’s super rude to ask things like this on a first date, let alone before the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:27 AM
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It’s a chore like putting away the dishes or folding laundry. We do it because we like the end product, not because the activity is actually fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:24 AM
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His facial features look like they’ve all been squished together. Very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:12 AM
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Lol why are you watching videos of middle schoolers on Omegle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:13 AM
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For you. If you don’t love traveling, it’s probably for the best that you seek out someone who better shares your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:11 AM
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And that’s why the joke from the post lands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:56 PM
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Hey! If you haven’t done so yet, here’s a reminder to fit in a workout today. At the very least, it will make you feel healthier and happier. I was feeling moody and depressed yesterday and didn’t workout. I almost didn’t today, but forced myself to and feel 10 times better now. You can do that, too. 🌟
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:58 PM
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Yes. CDC puts the average n-count at sub-10. I’d guess that the typical sexually-active Millennial or Gen-Zer has between 10-20, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:50 PM
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Nagging = a sexist word for asking your partner to keep his word
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:14 PM
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A helpful shortcut to divorce 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:12 PM
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Sure. And a woman has every right to leave for the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:03 PM
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The men here aren’t just talking about n-count. They also include activities. You could have an n-count of 2 and have done something you didn’t enjoy with a previous partner. Having to continue something you don’t enjoy just because you did it with someone else is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:46 PM
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Thank you for translating! I appreciate it. I definitely do not support that law. But I wonder if it was put in place in response to the machismo-heavy, Francoist Spanish culture? Hell, it wasn’t until the 1980s that divorce was even legalized in Spain. 😩 Most countries place greater penalties for domestic assault, but it’s extended to both sexes (example).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:36 PM
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My reading level in French is not good enough to understand the sources. How is sentencing actually written in the law? Feminists are the ones who had the power over the domestic violence policy and the domestic violence academia from the very beginning. When modern-day Feminists started advocating for changes to DV law, they had almost no representation in government. Women definitely did not have control over policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:53 PM
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Can you give me an example from a less biased source? For example, does the law in Spain actually stipulate longer sentences for men or is that what is happening in practice? And how do severity of injuries factor into sentencing? And white people have been an enormous help for black people because they invented modern technology and healthcare? Lol. A better analog would be a world where black people were in power, then white people had to fight for thousands of years to allow advancements in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:41 PM
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Salary transparency increases pay tremendously for the average worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:21 PM
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Why are you against salary transparency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:14 PM
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Agreed. It’s very selfish, even if it comes from an understandable place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:09 PM
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the idea that domestic violence is a gendered issue Unfortunately, it is still a gendered issue. The disparity of physical size and aggression between men and women leads to more women being killed and seriously injured by their domestic partner. They also are still more likely to need shelter and financial support to exit abusive situations. it means that more women are murdered every day because studies show the murder rate drops when DV victims are able to get help... sometimes a murder is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:06 PM
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Child poverty and the relationship between childhood zip code, life expectancy, and projected lifetime earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:53 PM
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Militaries have always had plenty of people signing up and giving their lives prior to marriage or fatherhood. The biggest things limiting enlistment right now (in the US, at least) are obesity and mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:01 PM
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Oh absolutely, grief sucks. But honoring your partner and remembering them doesn’t require becoming a single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:47 PM
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It’s certainly not an ideal situation, but that’s not something she can change. More people would want you if you weren’t also a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:45 PM
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Any financial incentive she gets would not make up for the cost of raising your children without a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:40 PM
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That wasn’t my phrasing. I said it was better to “find someone new and start a family with them.” That doesn’t require forgetting about your former partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:39 PM
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If he was dead? I’d grieve forever, but I wouldn’t try to create a family with a ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:36 PM
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I can’t fault her I think it’s very selfish, since it prevents your children from having a father in their life. Doing it out of grief is understandable, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:30 PM
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Yes, it’s only sensible. I wouldn’t be a single mother by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:28 PM
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Instead its better to just forget someone and his sacrifice and give yourself to another man? Yes, definitely. Better for you, for your children, and for your community.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:19 PM
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Certainly not an incentive that would make up for raising your children without a partner. I do think it comes from grief, but it’s still so stupid and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:17 PM
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Things like this are ridiculously foolish and selfish, even if they come from a place of grief. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/16/world/europe/ukraine-soldiers-freeze-sperm.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Why would you turn yourself into a single parent and prevent your child from having a living father? 🤦‍♀️ Find someone new and start a family with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:11 PM
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Oh gosh, that sound terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:06 PM
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Many tradwives try to be mommy bloggers and social media influencers. It’s a thing, probably because they’re so bored sitting at home. They’re also frequently sucked into MLM schemes, in an attempt to support their lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:48 PM
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She’s talking about actual conservative Christians, not born-agains. There are many Christian influencers on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:46 PM
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I don’t understand why you want to link feminism with DV against men. Unfortunately, due to the power difference, hormonal differences, and historical income difference, women are much more likely to be seriously injured or killed from DV. They also have historically been less likely to have money that would allow them to leave a dangerous situation. When a woman is unemployed (SAHMs were much more prevalent in the 70s and 80s), she is more likely to experience DV and cannot leave the situation …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:55 AM
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No meaner than other locations. And I’ve been given more random gifts and help in the city than most other places I’ve lived. Boston and Philly are much bigger assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:19 AM
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New Yorkers as a whole are really nice. I’ve never understood that stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:07 AM
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Many don’t, no. And many others aren’t happily married for long, even if they don’t divorce. But my point was that just because someone engages in risk-seeking behavior at 21 doesn’t mean they’re a piece of shit or that they’ll make a poor life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:05 AM
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Ok, enjoy!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:09 AM
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You shouldn’t be so harsh on your fellow men. I know many “bad boys” who are happily married now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:06 AM
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Disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:00 AM
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Depends on the culture of your friend group. One group’s bad boy is another’s choir boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:21 AM
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I actually agree with you on this. Most people don’t meet their LTR partners in bars. They typically meet through friends and family, at school, at work, or on OLD. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/psdt_08-19-20_dating-relationships-010/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:16 AM
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Bad boy =/= piece of shit It means confidence, fun, and reduced inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:13 AM
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Why do you think it’s not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:59 AM
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Why does it surprise you that guidance developed 40 years ago would center on female domestic violence victims? At that time, DV was barely prosecuted and marital rape was still legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:01 AM
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No worries! Made for an interesting chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:57 PM
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Definitely. Same reason you might be drawn to platonic friends that push you out of your shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:57 PM
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Given how many women have experienced it, there’s a high chance that your future LTRs will have had an experience with attempted or completed sexual assault. If you have a close relationship, they’ll probably tell you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:57 PM
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Haha yes, unfortunately they do. Especially because it seems that many people don’t know that showers amplify sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:53 PM
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You’ll be sharing a space soon, so I’d just include it in as deadpan a way as possible. Lol I sometimes have to specify what is “school appropriate” for choices in class, so I just say it as dryly as possible. If a bunch of 16 year olds can handle that, an adult couple can, too. 😂 You could just say something simple like, “Out of respect for each other, we should keep sex to our individual bedrooms, not in communal spaces like the shower or living room.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:47 PM
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Set clear guidelines from the start about how you will split cleaning duties and whether you will be sharing food. Also set rules about where is communal space and where is off-limits for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:29 PM
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If women don’t feel comfortable telling you about their sexual assaults in real life, then that says more about you than women on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:04 PM
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Unfortunately, mental illness is extremely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:21 PM
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would you say this is reflective of how sexist society is in general towards women or is it simply the natural occurrence of some individuals looking out for their own self-interests The two aren’t mutually-exclusive. Societal preferences are made up of millions of smaller, personal choices. It’s similar to the lack of research into areas of women’s healthcare, as well as ridiculous things like crash test safety not considering the height and weight of most women. Forgetting to consider how thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:19 PM
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Didn’t say it was misogynistic, just sexist. The things you mentioned, along with a lack of women in jobs training these systems leads to worse performance for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:05 PM
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Smart home mics are bad at picking up female voices. My husband regularly has to repeat what I yelled for it to listen. VR headsets are much more likely to create motion sickness for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:45 PM
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Smart home microphones and VR headsets are sexist. It’s so fucking irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:31 PM
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Do you think most men have little empathy for that outside of this sub? Unfortunately, yes. Like many things, men seem to understand it when applied to strangers or men that look dangerous, but don’t understand that it also factors in within close familial relationships, friend groups, and even at work. The physical difference doesn’t go away once you get comfortable with someone; it always remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:36 PM
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women have very little empathy for how it feels for a man to be treated as a threat. It’s probably very difficult. I especially feel frustrated for fathers and male caregivers who are treated with suspicion when caring for their children. On the flip side, many men seem to have little empathy for how it feels for women to be physically weaker. It’s scary to realize that if most man were to suddenly turn on you, you’d need a weapon to protect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:51 PM
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What would you have them do? Not protect themselves? Unfortunately, men are the vast majority of known homicide perpetrators. Given that 75%+ of murders involve men killing other men, it makes more sense for men to be more cautious around other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:15 PM
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My major objections to financial abortion are the burdens it would place on the taxpayer That’s my argument against financial abortion, not for medical abortion. Viability also factors in when considering abortion and euthanasia, which is what Willow was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:03 PM
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How predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:07 PM
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Why not? LTR by 30 is what most men in the past had, too. Average married age for women is the one that’s gone up (and not by much, unless you’re solely looking at the 50s and 60s).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:59 PM
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Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:46 PM
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Given that the majority of men and women end up in serious LTRs by their 30s, it seems most people’s standards are right on track. https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/college-of-arts-and-sciences/NCFMR/documents/FP/hemez-single-cohab-mar-hh-fp-19-26.pdf https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/juteau-characteristics-of-single-adults-US-2021-fp-22-30.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:36 PM
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Infants and toddlers also don’t have the ability to dress themselves, yet killing them is still a crime. A better analog would be someone on extended life support. For the next of kin, withdrawing life support from them is not a crime, even though it ultimately leads to their death.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:34 PM
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Some people who refuse to pay child support do end up going to jail for a short time for contempt of court. But that doesn’t mean that they were being asked to pay unreasonable amounts. Yeah, he’s not. I’m very glad to be an adult now who doesn’t need to rely on his support for anything. Last time we spoke, he got very angry at me about something wholly ridiculous and texted me to “lose his number.” So I’ve happily obliged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:38 PM
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No, I don’t think so. Each case is reviewed every three years, to make sure support aligns with taxed income, etc. One issue that causes is that noncustodial parents frequently fail to disclose increases in income. My dad did this for a while and even threatened to move to another country/stop paying support at all if my mother pushed to revise his support payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:58 PM
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Here’s a brief overview of how it’s done in my state: https://www.fayettecountypa.org/742/Modifying-the-Child-Support-Order
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:46 PM
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No, it adjusts based on fluctuations in income. So if you lose a high-earning job and take one making poverty level wages, then your child support payment can be adjusted to the lowest level possible. It’s like taxes in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:40 PM
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Child support is scaled by income. Men living in poverty pay very little in support. Here’s an overview of some of the laws across the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:22 PM
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But child support is scaled by income. If you make a small amount of money, you contribute a small amount in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:18 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:14 PM
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If those men have been trafficked or enslaved and didn’t choose those jobs themselves, then that’s also a problem. But there are many jobs that do not involve back breaking work, so perhaps they should quit and seek those out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:13 PM
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So you’re making the argument that fetuses that can’t live outside a uterus are the same as elderly people? 😂 That’s certainly a take, as long as you own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:08 PM
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Yeah, I also don’t understand it. It’s like forcing someone to be a foster parent, but with financial support instead of care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:58 PM
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Forcing men to pay child support even after a paternity test showed they are not the father Agreed. I would wholeheartedly support legislation that changed that law.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:48 PM
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Absolutely! You are free to commit to the kind of woman you want. But conservatives actively advocate to restrict women’s freedoms outside of dating and even try to restrict who other people can commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:46 PM
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How are financial contributions a bodily autonomy issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:27 PM
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I think it’s a profoundly stupid decision, but bodily autonomy rights reign supreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:18 PM
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My major objections to financial abortion are the burdens it would place on the taxpayer and the expansion of crime it could cause. Medical abortions do the exact opposite of financial abortions: they reduce taxpayer responsibilities and crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:10 PM
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Right to privacy includes a ton of different things, like marriage, sex, access to pornography, contraceptives, other healthcare, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:00 PM
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What examples would you place in this? Too many to count. Most recently, conservatives are putting major money towards rolling back LGBT discrimination protections and the right to privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:48 AM
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Agreed. Conservative men are willing to give actual money (not just views and clicks) to those who are advocating a rollback of social changes and expanded civil rights. Public opinion, be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:59 AM
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What did she specifically say?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:41 AM
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Lol I don’t believe that at all. 😂 Just seems like most of them are lesbians or bisexual women who look the part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:51 PM
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No. I definitely crave sex sometimes when I’m feeling stressed. Typically, I think low libido has much more to do with health, fitness, and fatigue than stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:31 PM
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Is it? I feel like I see men making posts like this one all the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/12m3s15/wellrounded_women_scare_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:26 PM
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Lol it seems like all sex therapists look like that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:14 PM
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Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:13 PM
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Lol you know there are more polite ways to ask for the source, right? 😂 https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12kyo20/women_lie_about_their_partner_preferences_they/jg89p4r This comment chain is specifically about what men say in this subreddit, so it’s relevant what some guys say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:48 PM
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Comparing someone’s curated highlights to your everyday is always going to lead to dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:44 PM
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Is this a birthday post? What are you turning?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:30 PM
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Lol if you think prostitutes don’t have reputations. A better analog would be a porn star with 10 partners or a public sex aficionado with 10 partners compared to a typical girl with 15 partners, including a mix of relationships and hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:23 PM
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Would it make people love you more? Or make people who didn’t know about your billions interact with you differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:12 PM
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Life is easier when you’re attractive. It’s also easier when you’re wealthy, but it’s not necessarily happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:52 PM
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He was accused of rape, apparently after a long line of infidelity. That’s a good reason to divorce. She doesn’t deserve half his property, but she probably will get alimony and some of the money he put away during their short marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:50 PM
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Chad with $65k
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:35 PM
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It had nothing to do with your original comment. Sure it did. You insinuated that including reputation meant I completely misunderstood men. But the majority of men aren’t repulsed by n-count because of the reputation that comes with it. Most of the men I’ve talked to about this have suggested that public displays of high n-count are bigger dealbreakers than women who’ve simply had a lot of sex behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:27 PM
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Other things can even be "very important," even deal-breakers in the extreme, even if she is hot. Agreed. So where are men like you when guys here are going on about how women only need to be attractive to attract and keep a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:21 PM
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How is bringing up another comment from earlier today arguing in bad faith? Here it is: https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12lc699/daily_community_chat_megathread/jg8md2k You may not agree with him (men and women certainly aren’t monoliths), but it’s silly to suggest all men don’t care about reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:16 PM
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A guy earlier told me that he “believes” that researchers considered an important factor because he “trusts” them more than he trusts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:13 PM
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Speak for yourself. A male poster I was talking with earlier specifically used the word “reputation” when talking about the negative impacts of high n-count on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:11 PM
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Reputation = status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:02 PM
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So which is it? Do men ignore personality and status and focus solely on beauty? Or do they factor in n-count, reputation, and agreeability? You don’t get to have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:58 PM
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It’s sad that the people in your life have convinced you of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:35 PM
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Lol yep, I remember this girl I went to church with claimed she was pregnant like 3 times in high school. Turns out she was just delusional and attention-hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:26 PM
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It absolutely does. If you’re choosing between two reasonably intelligent men and one makes $50k while the other makes $60k, then there’s no harm in choosing the more attractive choice. If you’re choosing between someone who makes $20k and someone who makes $100k, then there are higher stakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:31 PM
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Do you believe they were also comparing men with slightly different intelligence and reliability levels? Or wildly different?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:13 PM
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And if they didn’t? If they were comparing 8s with 4s, do you see the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:03 PM
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No, I don’t think I was an easy kid to manage. But most people aren’t easy to deal with all the time. I’m a teacher and can tell you that even great kids have their moments. But they’re still fun to work with most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:53 PM
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How do you know they were comparing men with slightly different levels of attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:42 PM
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Kids can be really fun to spend time with and can make you experience the world in interesting ways. You also get to relive life experiences by providing them an opportunity to experience things for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:31 PM
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Even $5 an hour for all household work would be cost-prohibitive for most families. losing a breadwinner is far worse than losing a homemaker. Funny thing is that the government and most of the world feels the opposite. If your contribution to the family can be substituted by a welfare check, are you really part of the family at all? Today, most families are dual-income, with the “breadwinner” making only 20-30% more than the lower-earning parent. So most of this is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:59 PM
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Ah. Lots of kids have part-time jobs, so when competing with a SAHM they’re still earning more. But your question is a great example of how household work is dramatically undervalued by society. Say mom dies and dad can’t find a replacement wife. Paying for a caregiver, cook, and cleaner will be quite expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:48 PM
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I don’t understand your question. Lots of children outearn their mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:29 PM
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There will never be a solution. It’s going to be conflict until one of them destroys the other or they intermarry enough to come to a stalemate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:27 PM
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Most of the world is sick of moderating this conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:19 PM
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Why spend your time fixating on this topic when you could just let their parents and healthcare professionals worry about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:15 PM
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Literally all they’re trying to do is prevent these kids from killing themselves. That’s a cause worth fighting for. So bring it on, I guess. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:02 PM
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Because it’s illogical. 😂 Carry on, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:59 PM
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Explain it to me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:58 PM
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Do you really think most men and women would choose the unemployed 8 with drug problems? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:56 PM
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those people with those who think that minors should be getting life-altering drugs , procedures and medical care A lot of trans kids die by suicide. Seems reasonable that their healthcare providers would try to prevent that. Experts say that gender-affirming healthcare helps with that. Most of us don’t have training on that, so it makes sense to be guided by the experts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:55 PM
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Nope. Imagine choosing between an unemployed 8 with a drug problem and a 7 with a great job and reliability. There’s no contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:48 PM
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They’re not envisioning someone ugly when they’re asked the first time. They’re thinking about choosing between two reasonably attractive looking men. Which would they choose in that scenario? The more ambitious/intelligent one over the one who’s slightly more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:36 PM
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They’re not envisioning someone ugly when they’re asked the first time. They’re thinking about choosing between two reasonably attractive looking men. Which would they choose in that scenario? The more ambitious/intelligent one over the one who’s slightly more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:36 PM
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That’s so exciting!! Have fun and good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:21 PM
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Agreed, that’s the most important word in the email. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:36 PM
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You’re right. I wish I didn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:26 PM
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No, not usually. A couple times over is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:25 PM
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Ugh anxiety is so frustrating 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:15 PM
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When sending emails, I act like a crazy person and read each word over and over like I’ve suddenly lost all comprehension. Is that something everyone does or is that just another lovely symptom of my anxiety?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:12 PM
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But religion isn't just that, you can't prove God exists or doesn't exist for example. The basis of personality is also a difficult one to prove. There’s obviously a genetic component as well as situational, so who’s to say that there isn’t a celestial component as well? Isn't that mostly something from the past? It’s huge in India and China, as well as many other places. I agree that religion is crock and I’d say the same about astrology. But at least astrology is more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:20 PM
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What does astrology claim that is provable? People are also raised in astrology. It’s a major part of eastern religions and was a much more significant part of western religions prior to the rise of Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:10 PM
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Glad to hear it! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:49 AM
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Again, religious people do that, too. Do you hold the same level of scorn for religious people who claim that they base their belief on observable phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:44 AM
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The examples you included don’t suggest anything scientific, though. Substitute Christian beliefs in those sentences and they sound like any other religious person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:28 AM
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Why is astrology more ridiculous than any other religion or belief system?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:01 AM
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If she’s not interested in more, then that’s all you get. Friends are nice to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:25 AM
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Hopefully not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:15 AM
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Perhaps, but early marriages are simply more prone to failure. Add in the challenges of Hollywood and it doesn’t look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:05 AM
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More likely that she’ll get married and then divorce shortly thereafter, heading back into the Hollywood system with a divorce under her belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:00 AM
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There are still plenty of songs glorifying love on the radio, don’t you worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:56 PM
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Difference is that today people are talking about it with concern, not excitement, including many of her young fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:56 PM
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Agreed, as long as you know that being a homebody doesn’t mean no career or outside passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:27 PM
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Yes, there were many different cultural influences. That was confusing. My dad is a bit of a cultural tourist as well, so he’s cycled through a few different religions since Mormonism. Perhaps witnessing all that is what turned me into an atheist. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:15 PM
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My parents divorced when I was young. My mom remarried another Mormon, my dad left Mormonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:11 PM
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But obviously it is, since the vast majority of people end up partnered by their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:07 PM
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since l grew up in a poor and religious neighborhood Come on dude, be honest. You know most of them are trying to be mommy bloggers on social media and pushing some godawful multi-level marketing scheme to be “mompreneurs” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:02 PM
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How are the families you know with SAHWs doing? Do they seem happy and fulfilled, or do they post on social media all day and have an MLM addiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:53 PM
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I'll let you in on a secret, you'll refuse the dude and look for better lol. Isn’t this advocating for hypergamy and Chad-chasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:51 PM
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Nope. I grew up Mormon and know many SAHWs who fit the description of what many men here want. For most people, it doesn’t seem to lead to a happy marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:50 PM
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Most SAHWs are bored, overloaded, and demanding of their husbands. I don’t understand what’s attractive about that kind of lifestyle for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:41 PM
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Say I made you a birthday cake from scratch. It’s not the best made cake, but it’s good enough and makes you feel special. Do you refuse to eat the cake and say that it’s worthless? Or do you eat it graciously, then try to help me make a better one next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:36 PM
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Why not a nanny or cleaner?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:46 PM
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How would I know that he didn’t actually love me? Ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:22 PM
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For someone to say that to me? Certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:13 PM
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Lol these posts are hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:10 PM
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No. What a vengeful thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:07 PM
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I hate how many therapists treat with “Christian-focused” care. It cuts out at least half of the options in my area.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:05 PM
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Lol they probably didn’t say it like that. 😂 More likely they were just encouraging the person to re-enter the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:03 PM
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Yep. If you see assholes everywhere you look, then the real asshole is probably you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:02 PM
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My mom and stepdad will have been married for 30 years this year, while my dad and stepmom will have 29 years together. The youthful marriage between my mom and dad didn’t even last 10 years, which is very common for early marriages. https://ifstudies.org/blog/want-to-avoid-divorce-wait-to-get-married-but-not-too-long
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:46 PM
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Unfortunately lots of liberals own pit bulls, too. I think it’s a marker of class and income rather than politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:01 PM
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Unfortunately, so do I. I developed PMLE a few vacations back after a sunburn and now when I get a lot of sun my hands and chest get itchy and bumpy. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:49 PM
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Heat rash, PMLE, or sweat allergy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:32 PM
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People watching at airports is really fun. Charlotte has rocking chairs in most of the corridors, which makes layovers feel extra lazy. Looksmatch always seems to win out. People either aren’t happy with people who they don’t match or being with an unattractive/attractive partner pushes them to change their habits, making them look more like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:27 PM
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Making conclusions about what men and women want based on the choices of fictional characters is ridiculous, no matter how enjoyable the narrative is for viewers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:53 PM
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Huck Finn is even further detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:37 PM
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You know those aren’t real people, right? The showrunners are telling a story.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:26 PM
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Thank you! I don’t think it’s that common in teaching, since people typically live close by. But that could be changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:26 PM
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Yay! Got a second round interview request (first was a prerecorded video answering questions). Only problem is that it’s 4 hours away and mid-week. There will be at least one more interview or lesson demonstration before an offer, so I’m thinking I’ll request a Zoom interview for this one. How much do you think that will hurt my chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:41 PM
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Lol maybe not helping out around the house is a side effect of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:30 PM
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There are never any guarantees. People change. The hope is that you’ll change in ways that are complementary to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:17 PM
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Birth control and female workforce participation are major contributors to our safety, health, and prosperity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:19 AM
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You should look at suicide statistics prior to 1950. It does not paint a rosy picture about the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:17 AM
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It used to be a very regular thing for women who married men during or immediately following college, since advanced degrees like med school and law school don’t pay for a while. These days, it’s less common for men and women to support each other through school, since most marry after finishing. It’s most common for couples like these, where someone decides to go back to school later in life to improve the family situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:13 AM
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I looked through her posting history. She’s been worried about the drugs for years. Plenty of women support their spouses through college and advanced degrees. It’s common. I think she should leave now. She can move in with family in the area or get government assistance while she pursues her internship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:32 AM
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I’m sure she’ll be devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:24 AM
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She’s a very prolific songwriter. Some of her songs are definitely corny, but many people connect deeply with her work. I used to think her music was mid, but I’ve recently developed a taste for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:22 AM
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Sounds amazing! Glad you had such a wonderful experience. 🌟
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:16 AM
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Young people have never been able to buy shit. Just look at homeownership rates over time. Better to be fat and alive than thin and dead. It’s rather amazing how much the average human has grown in height just in the last 125 years, since better nutrition is now more accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:13 AM
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Oh, you’re talking about her appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:06 AM
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Sure, but nothing in those lyrics is particularly exaggerated. Just sounds like a normal breakup where one person doesn’t feel valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:57 AM
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We live in the safest, healthiest, most prosperous point in history. You head back in time if you’d like, but many of us will be staying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:54 AM
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Perhaps, but songwriters profit off that dirty laundry. It’s much easier to write stories that are similar to your lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:48 AM
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Quitting your job right before an important internship (or getting fired for drug use, possibly) and pressuring your wife to quit school/the internship is not a rough patch. It shows significant incompatibility issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:12 AM
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Ugh man, that post makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:08 AM
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Probably because he doesn’t make that now and she’s also not pulling in income, since her income is going to tuition. That post made it to r/all, which is how I found it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:51 AM
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This is the kind of thing that leads to educated women breaking up with their spouses: https://reddit.com/r/povertyfinance/comments/12ijsv5/my_husband_lost_his_80k_a_year_job_wants_me_to/ I hope she finishes out that degree and reconsiders the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:33 AM
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Nope. My husband cleaned my shoes for me after I slipped in some mud on one of our first few dates. It was sexy, we slept together soon afterwards, and I definitely bragged about it to my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:13 AM
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I do 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:08 AM
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That comment from her is very interesting. I was reading reports about the setlist switch from “Invisible String” to “The One,” and your story adds more fuel to that fire. I feel really bad for them, but definitely understand why relationships in the public eye often don’t last long. How was the show overall? Her recent work has been lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:08 AM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:31 PM
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Haha ok then. You must be much cooler than I am 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:42 PM
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How about celebrity criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:40 PM
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Yeah, that’s why it was surprising. Most people were expecting them to marry. 6 years is a pretty long romance for Hollywood. She was pretty huge before and during COVID. Released multiple very well-received albums in the least 5 years. I’m not a big fan, but have enjoyed some of her recent albums.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:38 PM
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Why do you hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:22 PM
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I’m feeling weirdly sad about Taylor Swift’s recent breakup. They were together for 6 years and most people assumed they were heading for marriage and children. Just a bummer for them, even if they’re out of touch celebrities. Here’s one of her recent songs that is thought to be about the end of their relationship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7QlX3yR2xs (song starts around 2:00, stupidly)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:17 PM
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Agreed! I warm the potatoes and green beans slightly and mix everything (plus a bit of mixed greens, as well). It makes for a very satisfying meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:08 PM
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It’s good for you. 😂 Lots of protein in this one, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:23 PM
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Really? I’ll have to give it a try sometime. Fish + sweet flavors typically hasn’t been my fave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:22 PM
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No peaches in any version I’ve tried. Might be a bit fishy/briny for fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:19 PM
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Then you did well. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:06 PM
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Nicoise Salad is just so delicious. It’s my ultimate favorite. If you’ve never tried it, do yourself that favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:05 PM
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Depends. Does she speak to you regularly and welcome your influence in her life / her children’s lives today?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:01 PM
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Most women leave marriage worse off than men do, often due to the added costs of being primary caregiver.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:52 PM
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Still better for both father and mother to have financial autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:36 PM
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Hello Fresh teaches you how to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:16 PM
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Still daily work that you’re opting out of, regardless of the time it takes. Cooking takes a lot of planning, shopping, and prep, as well. Lol about the laundry, seriously. You can’t wash a family’s worth of laundry in one load. Say a family of four: you have three sets of sheets, multiple kitchen cloths and bathroom towels, and a week’s worth of clothes for each person. That adds up. So many families do specific wash days for each type.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:10 PM
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You cook, clean the kitchen, and tidy the house every day, though. Cooking definitely rivals gardening for intellectual difficulty. If you have lots of kids, you also will do laundry multiple times a week. If you don’t do any housework, you aren’t contributing your fair share. And that’s not even considering the childcare component. You seem like an active father today, so hopefully you were the same when you still lived with your exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:02 PM
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But most men here aren’t looking for wives who will pick up takeout on the way home from work or do basic cleaning in between maid visits. They specifically say they don’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:58 PM
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Unless you live on a working farm, how many outside tasks have to be done every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:50 PM
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But if that’s what they want, is it unreasonable to say that men want a mommy bangmaid? Might be a little puerile and gross, but it fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:05 PM
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Once you’re in a live-in LTR, how do you plan to divide household tasks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:39 PM
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Do you believe women that want those things are controlling or is it just their preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:31 PM
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We don’t. Just open the link in the footnote and use that as your cited source.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:29 PM
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Even if that’s true, that doesn’t mean that some women don’t want that. And in both situations, their actions can be controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:25 PM
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You don’t think there are women that want their boyfriends to submit to them, stop going out, or get rid of their social media? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:19 PM
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Yep, sounds right to me. Let’s recast each of those scenarios with the opposite gender and see how it looks: If a man wants a woman to take charge in the relationship, it's a preference. If a woman wants a man who submits to her, it's controlling. If a man sets a boundary aka "making her wait for sex" It's empowering, but when she sets a boundary "l don't date men with social media or go out" something wrong with her or insecurity It’s the actions themselves that are issues, not the gender exhib…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:08 PM
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Most people lived long lives throughout history. Life expectancy in the past was just skewed by high child mortality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:38 PM
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True. It’s good to wear sunscreen daily, even if you’re only going out for a 30 min run.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:19 PM
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Haha yes, that’s what was so infuriating. I stopped my car so he could get around me easily (tight road) and he motioned for me to roll down my window. I did (assuming there was a hazard down the road) and he was a fucking asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:15 PM
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20-30, it was a gravel road that he thinks he owns
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:10 PM
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Speed limit was 25, I was going between 20-30. Man was such an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:10 PM
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You don’t need to work construction, fight in bars, go to jail, or ride motorcycles to be a man. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:24 PM
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An old man yelled at me this morning about my speed and I was very close to getting road-ragey back. Suck my dick, old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:20 PM
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And divorced by 25 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:53 PM
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What’s the word for men who prefer women to have less money and status than them? Financial abuse? Manipulation? It’s bizarre that lower-earning men are so much more likely to cheat on their breadwinner wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:30 AM
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People who have been rejected many times tend towards bitterness that won’t go away quickly once they enter a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:46 AM
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If a 20 year old has the same experience as a 40 year old, something is very wrong in both of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:44 AM
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Women also feel that way, since dependent wives also have an uptick in infidelity. But why is the effect so much more significant in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:34 AM
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Perhaps, but they’re more likely to understand our needs and work to improve situations that impact women (even if only to benefit themselves).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:32 AM
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Protests change things all the time. The advancement of women’s rights is a pretty obvious example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:13 AM
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You’ll probably like more body/facial hair as you get older. I really like beards and a bit of body hair now, but I hated it as a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:01 AM
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Completely disagree. Bad sex is painful and includes no orgasm, among other bad experiences. Masturbation always ends in orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:55 PM
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Blame testosterone then and don’t try to suggest that women offend at similar rates. They don’t. It’s not a moral failing, but a biological one. That doesn’t mean that women are wrong to be cautious around men, though. Avoiding dangerous people is a good idea in any situation. Men should do the same, but testosterone messes that one up for them, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:54 PM
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And every election we send more women to DC. It’s great! We’re also seeing more women in corporate leadership positions, but we have less of a say there. Obviously in past feminist movements, almost all the people in power were male. So who else could they demand things from? They couldn’t very well give themselves the right to vote or the right to own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:44 PM
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Yes, I guess all that’s preventing women from committing more arson and mass shootings is how heavy gas canisters and guns are. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:39 PM
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It will be great when more women are in power, so then we can beg them for things. That said, how have other protest movements been different?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:34 PM
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Or you’re having some bad masturbation. What makes sex extra satisfying is the addition of companionship, love, and play, like I said earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:32 PM
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And the cheating, probably. 😂 
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:19 PM
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Did you assume I wasn’t going to respond to your claim? This is a discussion subreddit, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:56 PM
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Did you not read the article? It reports similar findings: While, on average, women who are completely financially dependent on their husbands face about a 5% chance that they will stray, there is about a 15% chance that a man married to a female breadwinner will cheat, the study concluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:54 PM
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Masturbation takes care of the sexual urge pretty quickly. If the urge remains afterwards, you’re craving companionship, play, and love, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:32 PM
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Why do men need women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:25 PM
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Having more social training towards empathy doesn’t mean that they will respond with empathy in every situation. Empathy takes significant effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:12 PM
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Would you say that most of the inexperienced people in forums like these enter their first relationships as blank slates?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:54 PM
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On the other hand, generally speaking it isn't guys who have a problem with high income women... it's women who have a problem with guys who don't make more than they do. No, they care. Men who make less than their wives cheat at much higher rates than their wives do. I find that, for men, breadwinning increases infidelity. For women, breadwinning decreases infidelity. I argue that by remaining faithful, breadwinning women neutralize their gender deviance and keep potentially strained relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:10 PM
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Loneliness and romantic frustration have their own baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:57 PM
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Around 80% of men and women 18-24 are single (meaning not married or cohabitating). While many people in that demographic have short term romances, most are not strongly attached. It’s anyone’s game. the overwhelming majority of mixed-gender social settings have far more single men than single women. This makes no sense. Most single women have deeper mixed-gender social networks than than most single men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:53 PM
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Completely understandable. Libraries and cafes are good meetup places for lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:14 PM
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the next time you see a post on one of the dating subs about a woman who is complaining about not being able to find love, ask her about her social life. It's pretty apparent what the problem is. Agreed. The majority of struggling men have the same issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:37 PM
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We she in service and ignoring customers? Or was she was salaried and completing her work, despite the phone use?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:58 PM
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Too busy = too overloaded for the emotional/social focus dating requires
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:12 PM
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So why didn’t they start making lingerie that their customers wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:16 PM
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Do you think what women wanted was high cost, low quality underwear? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:11 PM
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Could be part of it, but they also didn’t do much to retain their older customers. They didn’t really know who their customer was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:34 PM
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Yeah, that was a big fuckup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:32 PM
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Their market left well before they went woke. They took too long to listen to what women wanted and now those women are refusing to come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:03 PM
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VS and Frederick’s initial target market was men, buying lingerie for their wives. As the companies grew and women became their primary market, they failed to adjust to what the women who were buying their products were asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:48 PM
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Just watched an interesting video essay on the rise and fall of Victoria’s Secret. As someone who was a teen in the early 2000s (when the only big underwear companies were VS, Frederick’s of Hollywood, and dowdy department store brands), it has been very cool to see female-led companies grow and for male-led complanies to move their designs from what men want to what women want. There are still plenty of special occasion lingerie retailers (shein has some great stuff!), but it’s shocking that un…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:38 PM
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Given that 80% of people 18-24 are single, most of them aren’t staying in relationships that aren’t working. That has less to do with age than with money and routine, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:12 PM
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26-40 are not too old and tired to do anything. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:48 PM
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Depends on what you’d consider to be a promiscuous past. Had a handful of casual sexual experiences, plus several LTRs? Should be completely fine. Had over 50 sexual encounters? Ok, maybe take pause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:45 PM
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20-25 are definitely not the best years of most people’s lives. Everyone’s fucking crazy and anxious during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:43 PM
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My mouth hasn't shut up about you since you kissed it. The idea that you may kiss it again is stuck in my brain, which hasn't stopped thinking about you since, well, before any kiss. And now the prospect of those kisses seems to wind me like when you slip on the stairs and one of the steps hits you in the middle of the back. The notion of them continuing for what is traditionally terrifying forever excites me to an unfamiliar degree. Hot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:50 AM
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It’s more that they warn younger people against them and look down on older people who pursue them. Why? Because as you said, they have experience with them and know how they can negatively impact the younger partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:45 AM
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Nursing is a perfect example of a profession that is skewed by social expectations. Fewer men pursue it because they are belittled when they choose it. Looking at biology graduates is a much better representation of interest between the sexes, since neither men nor women are treated poorly for studying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:03 AM
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Lol if you make the claim, you need to back it up. As it is, around 60% of biology graduates are female, while around 80% of engineering graduates are male. That’s a much more substantial gender gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:35 PM
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for biology AT ALL GRADE LEVELS WOMEN CHOOSE HEALTHCARE JOBS MORE THAN MEN. Again, I’d love to see some data on that. Sounds interesting. funny thing is I am also one of those men who chose engineering despite scoring lower. Fair enough. I don’t think you can apply your personal experiences to all men and all women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:25 PM
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Why dont you look at biology grades and nurses. You will see the same graph reversed because its about interest, not grades. If you have some data on that, I’d love to take a look. 👍 the graph it shows has nothing to do with men being worse at math, it shows men at all grade levels choose stem more than women. Exactly what I quoted above. Even men who are terrible math students choose to go into STEM. But if they suck at math, it seems much more likely that they’re choosing it out of social pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:09 PM
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Social priorities like income, work environment, and gender expectations massively influence whether an arguably poor math student would choose to major in STEM. They also influence great math students to look elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:04 PM
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Do you think most men with a 350 Math SAT have greater interest in STEM than most women with a 600 Math SAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:52 PM
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That’s true sometimes when comparing students who get As with students who get Bs. But students with D averages typically have more going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:51 PM
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Do you think most men with a 350 Math SAT have greater interest in STEM than most women with a 600 Math SAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:49 PM
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Same effect, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:46 PM
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Ok, so? I did say I would rather ruin my own life than be taken for a fool didn't I? I'd ruin her life, get my kids and social circle to hate me, and then I'd piss off to SEA or Latin America, party, do drugs, and fuck 20 year olds. Maybe knock up some new chicks over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:36 PM
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See and that's where men and women differ. A man would take his revenge even if it's been 60 years and the other man has forgotten what he ever even did. And so would I. You can only speak for yourself here. Many men do the opposite and choose to forgive and turn the other cheek. And that is what would happen if you tried to make a relationship built on a decades old lie work once you learned of the deception It would be completely understandable if you wanted to divorce. But blowing up your lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:31 PM
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A combination, definitely. On that subject, you may find this study interesting. It found that men with SAT math scores of 350 and HS STEM GPAs of 1.5 are as likely to major in physics, engineering, and CS as women with SAT math scores of 600 and HS STEM GPAs of 3.5. The gender gap in STEM isn’t due to ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:29 PM
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Would you swallow your pride and walk away and live the rest of your life, knowing you could have had your revenge but you didn't take it? Yes, definitely. I had an experience like that when I was 19. But it’s been over a decade since then and I’m happily married and have a completely different life. Why would I let him have any more power over me than what he already had?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:21 PM
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Cultural markers of gender like fashion and community expectations are definitely a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:14 PM
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As for why I think women have an easier time swallowing their pride? Idk, do they not? They certainly seem to be more willing to do so than men, or at times don't even consider some things in terms of pride when men would have. While women can more easily control their anger and aggression (lower testosterone), that doesn’t mean having our pride challenged is any less painful or difficult. We’re simply asked to do it more often and are socialized to accept it. As a young girl, it’s really upsett…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:02 PM
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Why do you think it’s easier to swallow your pride as a woman? Look at the people you know personally. Every single one of them have had to swallow their pride many times throughout their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:27 PM
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Pride is vital to being a man. If you give up your pride you are nothing. And nothing is worth your pride, least of all happiness. No, it really isn’t. Hopefully you’ll grow out of this, because you’ll likely have to swallow your pride many times over your lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:21 PM
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It doesn’t even make sense to do routine hernia screens on teen boys. It’s being phased out of routine practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:19 PM
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Female sports physicals do not include genital checks, nor do yearly comprehensive physicals. That doesn’t start until you go to the OB-GYN for the first time, unless you have symptoms that need to be looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:35 PM
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It wouldn’t work out that way, though. You’d be dooming yourself to unhappiness for the rest of your life. People don’t usually see pride as something you should fuck up your whole life for. In fact, it’s one of the things ancient and modern thinkers warn against the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:33 PM
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If you love your friends and family, I can’t imagine throwing those relationships away over something that happened 25+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:23 PM
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That’s really bizarre, man. But I guess it’s your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:20 PM
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So to prevent a minuscule amount of trans people from slipping through the cracks, you think a bunch of cisgender children should have to have their genitals examined, just in case? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:19 PM
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Why is that more important than protecting children’s privacy and bodily autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:09 PM
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Im just saying that Im not going to make it a clean and easy divorce and retirement for her. I will make sure to ruin her life on my way out. I understand that. And in doing that, you’d convince your children to hate you and your close friends to treat you like scum. Trying to blow up her life over an omission from 25 years prior would also blow up your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:08 PM
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Yep, they’re gorgeous. I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:04 PM
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But you had a great life with a woman you loved and created a family with her. Why would you blow that up and hurt your children just because she had more sexual history than you realized? Trying to blow up her life would only blow up yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:02 PM
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No, which would be better for her: living the life that she wants or getting divorced 25 years later? Lots of people get divorced, anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:41 PM
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People do that kind of thing all the time, though. You pretend to like someone’s interests as a way to connect with them or omit things about yourself that make you look bad. Prostitution is definitely an intense version of that, but I don’t think adjusting your personality and history to fit who you’d like to be now is rare or immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:40 PM
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You really wanna be 50 with adult children and end up ruining your family because of some fact of your past that you conveniently forgot to mention? Which would be better: never having that life at all or getting divorced in your 50s?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:13 PM
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Obviously yes, he would also have no moral obligation to disclose that. Unless it’s impacting their life today, his history is his history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:12 PM
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Unless the person wants to share it, why would it ever need to come up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:00 PM
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If he went to jail for it, that’s public record and she would likely find out about it. I’d put it in the porn/divorce category. But say he was raped or sexually assaulted himself, he would definitely not need to disclose that experience unless he wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:59 PM
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The people who would have a problem with these things later in the relationship would also have a problem with it early on. Many of them would be dealbreakers for a lot of people. But if it’s not something that could impact their relationship today, then why are you obligated to disclose them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:47 PM
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I don’t think anyone has a moral obligation to disclose things about themselves. Practicality reigns supreme. They may want to disclose these things to check compatibility, but they have no obligation to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:17 PM
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Porn and divorce are the only ones you should definitely disclose, since there’s a record if those things and they’ll likely come to his attention at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:00 PM
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But these kids are already made and need a home. It’s still a risk, but you’re not rolling the dice to bring them into creation. They’re already here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:19 PM
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Your example looks like a textbook troll profile. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:15 PM
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Such a good example of the kind of thinking that’s dooming young men to singlehood. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:15 PM
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You mean the thing that most governments ignored for thousands of years? Laws only changed after protest and direct action against it, so the government stepped in to restore order.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:51 PM
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You’re the one making the claim. I agree with u/Safinated on this issue. Governments don’t care about justice or happiness. They want order.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:46 PM
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No. The goal of government is peace and control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:44 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:42 PM
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Genuinely, what do you think is the goal of government?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:34 PM
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It’s a fair point, though. All the government cares about is that there aren’t a bunch of neglected kids running around and later creating havoc in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:27 PM
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This will encourage even more predatory and harassing behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:07 PM
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If the laws are in the books, some people are going to use them to excuse predatory and harassing behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:00 PM
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Come on. That study is from 30 years ago and reviews studies completed in 70s, 80s, and early 90s. https://www.academia.edu/17673295/The_perception_of_sexual_attractiveness_sex_differences_in_variability I’m willing to agree that men may only consider the physical attractiveness of women when thinking about sex. I’m not a man, so I can only speculate. The OkCupid data shows something different, though, since men claim greater interest for women in their age group than those much younger to them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:56 PM
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Hookers have been around forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:24 PM
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Come on, dude. You agree that men are attracted to women who can do things well. I agree that women are attracted to men who can do things well. I don’t think either of those things is necessarily about sex. Wanting a wife that will help with your lifestyle via cooking comes from the same place as wanting a husband that will help with your lifestyle via career advancement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:22 PM
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Disagree, respectfully. There's a reason for many, many men, naivety is a desirable personality trait in a woman. You cannot say the same the other way around. Success does not mean financial or career success. It can be as simple as wanting a wife who knows how to cook, or who is agreeable and makes friends easily, or who didn’t struggle to graduate from high school. Men want women who can do things well, just like women want men who can do the same. Do you develop higher sexual attraction to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:12 PM
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Both men and women are attracted to successful people. But successful people still struggle with decision-making and hardship sometimes and lean on their partners for help. And it’s attractive when they do so. Think about how you feel when you help your partner do something or figure something out. Women get the same feeling of satisfaction when they help their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:17 PM
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There you go again, saying that all women are the same. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:12 PM
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Lol must be why so many unemployed men cheat on their spouses
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:08 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:07 PM
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Opening up isn’t the problem. Refusing to work to improve the situation is what’s unattractive. For example, say you hate your job and complain about it every day. After months of that, if you’re not doing what you can to improve your situation or looking for another job, that’s unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:03 PM
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Lol if you think men are above this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:33 PM
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Some women from older generations excuse a lot of sexism, believing it’s just part of life. The same kind of people believe that younger generations shouldn’t fight for better treatment in various arenas, since they went through similar things and came out “just fine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:25 PM
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All men do not act the same. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:20 PM
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Here’s a few to start with: Be as physically attractive as possible and maintain that for as long as you can. Fitness, hygiene, style, etc. Be ambitious, passionate, and motivated to do well in whatever career you choose. If your field is low-paying, have a plan for how to improve your earning potential while continuing to do what you love. Build a network of male social contacts that like and respect you. Attend social events and be known to be a fun and trustworthy person. Meet women through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:29 AM
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But all men are like that! The misandrists said that all men are controlling, violent, robotic cheaters and I met one just like that. You’re just being defensive about your sex and refusing to admit that all men have these qualities. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:20 AM
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Yes, I regret some of my hookups. I went through a time at age 20 where I was drinking too much and acting out in response to trauma. But regretting several hookups I had a decade ago doesn’t impact my life much today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:19 AM
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I completely understand what AWALT and AF/BB are. I just don’t agree with them. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:14 AM
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Bandwagon fans show bigger red flags, IMHO. Only if the team is shitty in their behavior and not just their gameplay (like the Browns, lol) would it make any sense. But still a weird thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:12 AM
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Imagine I described a guy who was violent, controlling, prone to cheating, and emotionally closed off and said that he was a perfect example of AMALT. Plenty of men have those characteristics, right? And misandrists say that all men are like that. So it must be true that all men are violent, controlling, robotic cheaters, since I met one that has all the characteristics they describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:08 AM
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I know what “all women are like this” means. But the crazy girl you described is not what all women are like. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:00 AM
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What do I not know about RP? I’ve read tons of RP ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:56 AM
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Hilarious when men try to present RP as some authority on what women do. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:54 AM
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Honestly, any parent with a 12 year old might be writing long passages about how irritating they are. It will get better, just like it’s gotten better for the older kid. It sounds like the biggest frustration this woman has is how her husband responds to his ex’s behavior and his children’s behavior. Childcare shouldn’t be something that’s solely her responsibility, especially when she’s not their biological parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:52 AM
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Huh? All women are not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:44 AM
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Didn’t say it was easy. Maintaining and losing weight takes tremendous effort. But the process of reducing calorie intake is uncomplicated. People know what to do to lose weight, but aren’t willing or able to stay committed to that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:42 AM
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Feeding and sleep routines are very important for infants. So while the child is 18 months or younger, it’s recommended for them to stay with one parent full-time, with visits for several hours with the noncustodial parent multiple times a week. Once they’re toddlers, it can get more flexible and overnight visits are easier to do. Then, it’s still recommended for neither parent to be away from the child for more than 3 days if they’re going to be sharing custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:53 AM
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The majority of custody decisions don’t involve lawyers. The parents mediate them on their own and decide what’s right for them. Usually, dad doesn’t want to go part-time at his job or otherwise change his lifestyle, so they decide that the mother (who was typically the primary caregiver during the marriage) should continue in that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:32 AM
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Infancy and toddlerhood isn’t recommended for 50/50 custody because children that age don’t cope well or understand being away from their caregivers for long periods of time. It’s about child development, not fairness. 50:50 equal custody should also be presumed/default arrangement and not something you "get". It absolutely should, but most fathers don’t want that. Mine, for example, moved across the Atlantic instead of trying to be part of his children’s lives. My husband’s dad took him every o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:28 AM
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It’s very easy to get 50/50 custody once the kids are 4+. Most fathers don’t seek it. Women actually do far worse after divorce than men do, likely due to the disproportionate impact of childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:06 AM
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Those are also experienced by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:58 AM
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What risks does marriage have for men that aren’t also experienced by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:48 AM
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It will be difficult to completely abstain, unless you’re doing it for religious reasons. But you can do it if you’re really motivated to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:10 AM
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Haha I’ll take it. And for hookups, it makes sense. Always best to keep it light and easy early on. Avoiding conflict is the best way to do it. If there are problems in the first three months of dating, you don’t want to stay in that relationship, anyhow. The honeymoon period should be smooth fucking sailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:06 AM
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This is of course when you’re first meeting someone and trying to have sex with them, not a committed relationship where communication is important But many of the examples provided relate to LTRs. Things like doing the dishes, or picking up the kids, or coming home on time, etc. If you’re always unwilling to engage with a discussion and always deflect or minimize your partner’s feelings, it’s not going to end well. My husband sometimes tries to do the last one (exit mentally) when we’re arguing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:43 AM
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This one is one of the worst pieces of advice I’ve read from RP, which is perhaps why it’s not a common sense dating strategy. In relationships, sometimes you’re going to have disagreements. Sometimes you have to take ownership of your poor behavior and apologize. Sometimes you’ll want to admit to your faults, since it makes for a better connection. If you DARE past the initial phases of the relationship, you’ll either end up in a very unfulfilling relationship or break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:29 AM
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Ew nope. Already married, my body is still my own and his is his.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:26 PM
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Your body is your own first, not anyone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:19 PM
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Can you point out a few points from the sidebar as examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:16 PM
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I don’t understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:30 PM
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She seems so difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:17 PM
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Who’s a victim in that scenario? Naked people walking around in locker rooms has always been a thing and has always been weird. I grew up basically in a retirement community, so there were always super old people walking around completely naked in mine. Always bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:11 PM
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Marriage is just a financial and social partnership between two people. If you don’t want that, don’t pursue it. But you don’t need to be traditional to want that kind of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:56 PM
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Haha if you don’t want to have a conversation about it, just stop responding. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:54 PM
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Like most self help concepts, most of Red Pill dating strategies are just common sense. Only the style it’s presented in and the reasons they provide for why it works are different. It also doesn’t have love and marriage as the end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:43 PM
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Girls love talking about sex, though. It can be perverse how much they share.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:38 PM
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I don’t think so. In some species, it’s quite regular. One of my classroom pets in elementary (a hamster) ate her babies. It was rather horrific, though fortunately most of us didn’t see it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:35 PM
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Yes, lots of them do. Sometimes they even eat them. 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:28 PM
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Which ones? They must be pretty nice to warrant the $3k monthly subscription you pay to live close to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:25 PM
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Are you actually using the city amenities enough to warrant the cost?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:22 PM
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No, for most people around that is fine. The majority of people are a lot poorer than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:06 PM
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Both are unreasonable. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:55 PM
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That’s delusional. Median income is around $50k.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:53 PM
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Lol what? Median income is half that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:52 PM
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Men here like to say that, but nothing statistically shows that to be true. What hasn’t kept up are wages for unskilled workers, spurred on by modernization.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:44 PM
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Nope. The rise in dual-income families raised the standard of living we consider to be middle class. Our houses have doubled in size, we have way more luxuries and more of us have education, we now have two cars and go on overseas vacations, etc. Single income living is still possible for most Americans. They just want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:13 PM
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Do I need to prove that it’s helpful to have Spanish speakers on staff when dealing with a heavily Spanish-speaking customer base? 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:59 PM
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Indonesia and Suriname were some of their former colonies, so they have a big local presence there. I’d recommend it for next time you go! One in Amsterdam Centrum that I’d recommend is Kantjil & de Tiger. Great rijsttaffel and they have a cheaper takeout option, as well. Are you there right now? Which city?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:56 PM
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Boo. They have fantastic Indonesian and Surinamese food and delicious dairy products.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:54 PM
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Haha sounds good! Willow would make a great neighbor. We’ll trade produce over the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:53 PM
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I’ve never understood people who prefer to walk around the locker room naked. There are stalls and changing rooms - use them. Reminds me of when I was a preteen and saw one of my mom’s friends there. While she was talking with me, she just stripped down completely. It was so weird and made me so uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:33 PM
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My land is my land may be my most conservative opinion. I don’t have 7 broken down cars in my yard, but if I want to have that… fuck off. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:29 PM
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Come on. Is Lia Thomas even ranked in the top 20 nationally?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:18 PM
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I think my husband would rather be dead than bow down to an HOA 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:10 PM
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Those people are wrong. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:08 PM
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You might be right. But it’s really nice to have private space away from other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:52 PM
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There’s never a guarantee. But you’ll have more success pursuing someone who’s your looksmatch than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:50 PM
1

But if the townhomes are a few blocks away from single family homes, why chose them over the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:49 PM
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What’s the appeal of townhouses that cost more than a single-family home?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:21 PM
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This is so ridiculous. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:17 PM
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How many hot guys do you know who have fucked midgets?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:13 PM
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A 1 is a hideously deformed person. 2s and 3s aren’t far off. They aren’t having casual sex with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:08 PM
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If you consider 5s and 6s “ugly,” then you’re proving my point. There are many 2s and 3s out there and they aren’t getting sex from Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:06 PM
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Average girls (say 5-6) are not ugly. 8-9s are not hooking up with 2-3s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:55 PM
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Seems like a move someone would make if they caught cheating, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:54 PM
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Why do you think hot guys are sleeping with ugly girls? Honestly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:44 PM
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Since when are ugly men hitting on ugly girls? Nah. They want Stacy, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:29 PM
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Overall facial fullness (especially upper) is a bigger giveaway. That’s why buccal fat removal is so bizarre and shortsighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:23 PM
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Considering her own looks, it’s shocking that she thinks she can make fun of his. She’s a great villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:10 PM
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The biggest problem with Chelsea is that she’s still with Kwame. That relationship will not last, so it’s probably best to end it now. But how would they eke out that Netflix cash if they broke up early?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:07 PM
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Can he take care of you another way? Or can you masturbate with each other? Could be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:46 PM
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Chelsea and Bliss seem pretty cool, through probably better off with men who see them as their first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:45 PM
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Haha nope. Just like men, they’re made fun of and disrespected by strangers and acquaintances alike. And for those that end up in bad relationships, they stay in them for the same reasons men do: they worry they’ll be unable to find someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:38 PM
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Yeah, no. Men aren’t approaching ugly women, unless it’s to make fun of them. Just like ugly men, ugly women are either invisible or treated with scorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:25 PM
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Apex fallacy. Most women do not have the dating experiences you describe. Perhaps you have no sympathy for women’s dating struggles because you don’t actually know what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:08 PM
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Creepy people ignore verbal and nonverbal social cues. If someone shows disinterest in or dislike for you, continuing to pursue them is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:04 PM
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Haha yep, though she has her positive qualities. Irina, though? Monstrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:52 PM
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Lol no. Larger breasts are due to increased fatty tissue, while glandular tissue is what produces milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:18 PM
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Perhaps they mean that many young incels follow them? They used to have a cult-like following, though it seems like many of their followers have jumped over to Tate and similar influencers in the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:39 PM
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I’m finding conflicting things online. Seems many people consider Shapiro and Peterson part of the manosphere, perhaps due to their cult-like followings among young men. But Tate and Roosh fans don’t seem to claim them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:33 PM
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Yes, so are Peterson and Shapiro. The manosphere doesn’t all push the same ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:25 PM
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Peterson and Shapiro are considered part of the manosphere, just not Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:25 PM
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Ah, thanks. So they’re not speaking out against the manosphere, just red pill dating strategies. They’re considered part of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:23 PM
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When did they speak against the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:02 PM
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Agreed. There are some really bizarre laws surrounding rape and parental rights/duties. Like how the rapist is required to have visitation with the child and can potentially get custody, as well. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:40 AM
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Might be a bit too intense for an early date, too. Some of the things the characters say to each other are so fucked up. Their relationship is pretty messed up. I could see Adaptation being a good movie to watch with a date. Still super bizarre, but less about the dangers of loving someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:21 AM
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That’s never made sense to me. Being in the child’s life and thinking you’re their father shouldn’t give you the same requirements as a biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:11 AM
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Unfortunately, biologically life isn’t fair. Women get pregnant and men are much stronger than women. Once the kid is here, what’s best for the child and what’s reasonable for the taxpayer take precedence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:00 AM
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Why do you think so? Seems like any other self-sabotaging addiction, but at least overeating doesn’t cause crime or break up families.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:46 AM
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Yeah, I don’t understand that mentality. I don’t think people should be shamed for their weight and I think they should feel confident and happy at any size. But if you want to lose weight, restricting calories and increasing activity will get it done. Not everyone will lose at the same pace, but everyone will lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:51 AM
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Yeah, perfectly age appropriate. Though many of your peers want close relationships now, your wants aren’t a minority. At a certain point (maybe around 24-25), going out and sleeping with new people isn’t as fun. You start wanting to be with someone who knows you, cares about you, and wants to be your support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:48 AM
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Simple = uncomplicated, with clear steps Easy = achieved without effort Exercising and eating healthy takes daily, significant effort. But the process of exercising and eating less is very clear. People who struggle with their weight know what to do. They struggle consistently putting it into practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:34 AM
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Simple does not mean easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:28 AM
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Nah, even bodies with hormone imbalances respond to a calorie deficit. Their progress will just be slower. Losing weight and maintaining a healthy weight is not easy. But it is simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:25 AM
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Why would you want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:23 AM
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Keeping control of your weight takes significant effort, no doubt. But it’s fairly simple to lose weight if you put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:19 AM
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Women aren’t a monolith. I may think one thing and she may think another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:17 AM
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You’re quite young, aren’t you? Like college-aged?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:00 AM
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Premarital sex is all sex that happens before tying the knot. Casual, committed, engaged, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:54 AM
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Marriage is a partnership that has many components. Sex is just one of them, but it’s just as significant as other points of compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:52 AM
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Huh? Sexual compatibility is very important for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:30 AM
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Lol sorry, didn’t realize. Glad that you love that baby. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:14 AM
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only one working party cannot sustain household I don’t believe that at all. Check my recent history, I was actually debating with another poster about that today. Dual-income families aren’t necessary, they’re just preferred due to the luxuries we’ve become accustomed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:02 AM
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Before you edited, you talked about actually wanting a serious relationship. My response related to that. You don’t need to believe in soulmates to get serious with your partner. Imagine me telling my wife non-chalantly "I would have met someone else if not you". Well yeah, you would have. Would she have expected you to live a sad, lonely life if you hadn’t crossed paths? Minor changes in your life decisions might have completely changed who you ended up with,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:00 AM
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Haha I understand, it is better. But if you’re not serious enough that you’d be cool with having a baby with her, don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:51 AM
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If both partners work part-time and the child attends school, they have plenty of time with each other, neither is bored or financially trapped, and neither is overloaded by work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:47 AM
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Lol so dumb. 😂 Use a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:44 AM
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I’ve been married for a long time and with my spouse for over a decade. That’s pretty serious. But if I hadn’t met him, I would have met someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:44 AM
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No, that’s not ideal for either partner. The woman has no financial autonomy or job fulfillment, the man has overwhelming financial stress and no time with his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:41 AM
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Don’t think of them as a soulmate. Think of them as a potential life partner, of which there are many options that could be a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:35 AM
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Was she drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:34 AM
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Rewatching Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind right now. It’s so sad and a great musing on how hard dating and relationships can be, even back in good ol’ 2004.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:32 AM
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Doesn’t say anything. Feminine men can be sexy to straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:20 AM
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But with the amount people know about casual sex partners, she isn’t likely to know how frequently he gets those checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:07 AM
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Nah, 100+ partners is a significant red flag for casual sex, unless he’s getting STI checks all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:54 PM
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You don’t think the guy who brought her is also lusting after Steph Curry?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:50 PM
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This one might be interesting to you, then we can call it a draw: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/how-america-spends-money-100-years-in-the-life-of-the-family-budget/255475/ Big increases in spending on housing (housing size, AC, home appliances, etc.), transportation (cars), and other (education, vacations, other luxuries) have completely changed our expectations for what is middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:40 PM
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The huge expansion of the standard of living of the middle class was due to the rise of two income households.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:06 PM
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If you’re a teenager, the age gap can be small and still be significant. That’s why statutory rape laws in many areas restrict relationships between 14 year olds and 18 year olds, etc. Once you get to your early 20s, you have to be separated by around 10 years or more for it to be significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:23 PM
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It used to be that one man working would be paid enough to sustain a family(not everywhere). Nowadays you have to both work to enjoy same RELATIVE to your economic class level of income. Give or take a little. One income today can still sustain the lifestyle of the 1950s: a small house, one car or less, no tech, no fancy home appliances, no fast fashion, no international vacations, etc. But most people don’t want that. They want to compete with two income families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:07 PM
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Multiple regulars here are tall and still struggle with dating. Being tall helps with attractiveness, but it isn’t everything. Why does your height impact whether you respect other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:03 PM
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Men post about extreme age gaps all the time here. And most of them aren’t old. It’s like they’re hoping to live that lifestyle in 30 years and are pushing to normalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:45 PM
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Yeah! Crazy that they care about whether other women have access to what they did. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:43 PM
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Yep. What does that have to do with whether extreme age gaps are an interest of posters here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:40 PM
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They do it all the time. Regulars who are in their early 20s defending extreme age gap relationships. There’s multiple threads a week. It’s honestly weird, since they should hate them for reducing their dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:37 PM
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So why do young men here love posting things about extreme age gaps? A 22 year old dating a 27 year old is not an age gap relationship. 😂 Older people dating definitely plays into dating discussions, since older men are scoping out younger women and reducing the number of eligible women in the younger demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:33 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:21 PM
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That’s a good idea. 👍 My ankle doesn’t hurt anymore, but it feels a little odd sometimes and brings attention to itself. Maybe I’ll try some barre and band exercises and see how I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:46 PM
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I disagree, but it's not this sub's topic. That’s ok, since this is the fun thread. Why do you think people in 1950 had higher standards of living than those today?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:35 PM
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She's only on top because he allowed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:33 PM
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Ugh my run was bad today. 🥵 Couldn’t keep my breathing in check and I went down a little in my pace. I sprained my ankle a month back and it’s been hard getting back into the routine. I keep feeling anxious that I’m going to turn my ankle again and it’s taking some of the joy out of running. But a lousy run is better than no run at all. Kind of a nice day for it: clear, a bit breezy, and mid-50s. The trail is starting to look like spring.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:33 PM
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Let’s just hope the abortion pill stays on the market, as a lot of women are relying on it these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:28 PM
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Hopefully all these scenarios involve consent. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:22 PM
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Tomorrow is never promised. Death, divorce, prison, layoff, and disability are the big ones. You shouldn’t rely on only one person to support the family, since it sets your family up for financial hardship should something unexpected happen. Also, if you are both contributing financially, then both your desires matter when making major purchases and family moves. Nah, our grandfathers’ generation had a much lower standard of living than what we’ve become accustomed to today. For one, the average…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:15 PM
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Best would be two parents who work part-time or WFH, like I said earlier. Neither of the scenarios you presented are ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:23 PM
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I like chicken liver, sliced and dredged in a little flour, then sautéed until crispy. Give it a try sometime, especially when you’re craving some good nutrients.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:07 PM
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Work is tiring, but that doesn’t mean it’s unfulfilling. It’s nice to work towards goals in an area you care about. It’s also nice to help provide for your family and feel you can make your own financial decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:04 PM
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Haha I actually like liver, but my husband hates it. Liver has insane iron levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:03 PM
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Hahaha. My iron gets low sometimes, which causes me to have interesting cravings for fried liver.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:57 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:53 PM
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I am 99% certain you could easily find a man like that. I love having a career and wouldn’t give it up to sit at home, watch soaps, and fold laundry. Guess, who basically forced women into work by also cutting men's wage? Feminism. Both partners working part-time is the best scenario for both men and women, since it gives both financial autonomy alongside time with their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:51 PM
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Like jeans that are sold at women’s stores? Why would men buy those?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:38 PM
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Wow! So cool that someone else gets to have kids for us now! Where do I sign up? Also awesome that someone’s going to provide everything I need for the rest of my life. Here I thought that 75% of working aged women worked and over 80% of women have children by their 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:38 PM
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What are lady jeans?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:29 PM
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It’s difficult to manage friend group drama, even as an adult. What did he do that upset his friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:29 PM
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Among women who were married and who got less than their high school diploma, 60% divorce. 49% for those with a HS diploma and 35% for those with a Bachelor’s degree or higher. Table 4: https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/pdf/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:14 PM
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Interesting. Since testosterone levels are highly heritable, I’m guessing that uninvolved fathers are more likely to have high T.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:25 PM
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I’m not sure what religion or IQ have to do with the initial advice to earn a degree. For most men and women, it’s a good idea to up your earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:49 PM
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Table 4, percent ever married, then divorced. It’s also divided by gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:40 PM
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Among women who got less than their high school diploma, 60% divorce. 49% for those with a HS diploma and 35% for those with a Bachelor’s degree or higher. https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/pdf/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:29 PM
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Look at Table 4 in the link I posted. All stats below are for the ever married population, percent ever divorced. Among men: Less than HS Diploma - 57%, HS Diploma - 49%, Bachelor’s or higher - 23%. Among women: Less than HS Diploma - 60%, HS Diploma - 49%, Bachelors - 35%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:25 PM
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That’s not accurate. Here’s further explanation: In the NLSY79 cohort, the divorce rate for first marriages is nearly 20 percentage points lower for those who have completed their bachelor’s degree compared with those who have completed high school, regardless of whether they have some college or not. The gap is even greater, approaching 30 percentage points, when comparing those with a college degree to those with less than a high school diploma. Just as with first marriages, college graduates …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:16 PM
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Divorce is highest among couples without education, so those problems are happening across the income spectrum. Leaving a bad situation is easier when you have the financial ability to do so, so it’s definitely advisable over becoming a single mom living in poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:01 PM
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She’s basically telling women to make sure they have the earning potential to leave a bad situation. It’s good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:54 AM
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A, I’d rather be proud of my partner than disappointed. Also, good genes for your kids to receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:51 AM
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A 15 year old dating a 20 year old is an adult taking advantage of a child, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:43 AM
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Creepy = unpleasant and making you feel uncomfortable, especially because of sexual behavior that is not wanted or not appropriate (Cambridge Dictionary) Younger women dating older men could be creepy, but are generally not because of the physical power difference and men’s preference for sex with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:41 AM
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C
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:37 AM
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How is housing related to these issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:36 AM
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1-5 years is not an age gap, unless you’re a minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:34 AM
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No, he’s much more pedestrian. I doubt his influence on society will be long lasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:24 AM
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Where do you live? I think it’s super weird and predatory. I teach 15 year olds and interact with them daily. They are children who should be protected from adults who want to take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:22 AM
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Agreed 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:20 AM
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It’s illegal in many places for good reason. 14 and 15 year olds are still children and not at the age of consent. But I’d also be very concerned if my 16 year old were dating a 21 year old. Something is really off about any 21 year old that wants to be with a high schooler.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:13 AM
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Yep, absolutely. But I have issues with restrictive, disordered eating (mostly managed these days, but problematic thinking patterns can be hard to get rid of entirely), so my idea of what is thin is much smaller than what men in that thread indicated they wanted. It was nice to see that many men don’t want that level of thinness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:04 AM
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That thread was very surprising to me, especially given the rhetoric surrounding fat here. I have to remind myself that just because I try to make my body as skinny as possible doesn’t mean that men have the same preference. Seems that most men here like a bit more meat than what my crazy brain holds as the ideal. I would consider many of the women they chose to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:50 AM
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Once you get to your twenties, 5 years is not an age gap. But if my 15 year old were dating a 20 year old, best believe I’d be pitching a fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:42 AM
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Realistic from what I see in real life, not necessarily equal choices. This question was in response to a stepford wife choice posted below.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:23 AM
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Haha kids are awesome, even three year olds. Understandable if you don’t want one, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:15 AM
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You can’t think of one couple you know personally that went through hardship and chose to stay together?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:13 AM
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I’m sorry it’s been like that for you. But surely you’re aware that many people who’ve had long, fulfilling relationships have also experienced some very real shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:44 AM
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Haha that’s definitely how it is in my relationship. We’ve both gone through some significant shit and came out the other side with the help of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:30 AM
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Honestly, I don’t know any fully stay at home moms from recent generations that are intelligent. Most women work at least part-time, because it’s fulfilling for them. Staying at home all the time is really boring, especially once your kids are school aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:13 AM
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Lol I know multiple women who have the lifestyle and personality of A. It is very common among conservative women who seek to be SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:05 AM
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How does working part-time mean they are not a full-time parent? “It takes a village” suggests part-time work and part-time caregiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:04 AM
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I think many people would like to work part-time and care for their children part-time. It’s the ideal situation for everyone involved, as it gives each parent financial autonomy and fulfillment outside of the home while allowing them to spend valuable time with their kids. I think we will see work weeks continue to reduce, so that could become more normalized for the next generation. That would be an amazing change for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:54 PM
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Ok, that’s at least more reasonable than the first Option A. But there aren’t many women who are completely content being SAHMs. It’s really boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:40 PM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:31 PM
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Haha both A and B are representations of women I know in real life. SAHMs usually aren’t very satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:25 PM
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I know multiple women with lifestyles that closely resemble A. It’s fairly common in conservative circles. But yeah, it’s tough, hence the MLM and credit card debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:17 PM
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Q4M: A realistic take on this question. For marriage would you rather: A. A woman has a nice meal ready for you when you get home, keeps the house clean, and takes care of the kids full time. She expects you to make all major decisions and is hard on you when you make poor decisions for the family. She expects stoicism from you, even in stressful situations. She tries to compete with her friends and racks up large bills on credit for clothes, decor, and vacations. She’s bored at home, so she get…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:09 PM
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The big difference is that the women who feel guilty about using their voice expect a whole lot more from their husband than women who want a partnership. Making all the household decisions is a crushing amount of responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:35 PM
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Sure, some girls try to act like A. But they aren’t successful, since they aren’t robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:26 PM
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PSA: A doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:20 PM
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Housekeeper. This isn’t that common for most North American families, though a cleaning lady coming every week or every other week is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:04 PM
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It’s definitely a great work multiplier, but it still needs direction and oversight. You’re going to have a job for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:07 PM
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So why are you telling everyone here all the things you found in her history? It looks malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:03 PM
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This is low. I found it quickly: Sorry for terrible quality and thank you, I got a rape kit and reported it. I was gangraped four days ago and went to the hospital that night for a rape kit and STD testing and found out that everything was negative this morning, I feel relieved because none of them used a condom. I went to my doctor’s for a scheduled physical that I coincidentally had the next day and discussed what happened to me as well. I’m going to get therapy and get examined again Followed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:51 PM
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Provided they had permissions, how are they useful without human direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:32 PM
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AI today is still a helpful assistant for a human operator, not a human replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:27 PM
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Maintaining your earnings is a great reason to skip having children. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:17 PM
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Who do you think have had more success with women: the average RP guy or the average married guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:54 PM
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Everyone’s struggled at some point in dating, even Chad and Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:34 PM
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Yep, that’s exactly what women are talking about when they describe coercion through physical intimidation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:11 PM
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It’s so upsetting that this is being pushed right now. I hope parents and healthcare providers put up serious opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:25 PM
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Remember ladies A man’s power comes from violence Keep that in mind when dealing with men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:11 PM
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So your issue with the Queen is women taking her seriously and men developing an attraction to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:59 PM
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Dwarves are supposed to be stout. Guessing you’re not one of the folks who wanted her to have facial hair like in the books. Does it bother you that the king in the Mandalorian is white and also fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:47 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:43 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:35 PM
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Men know that we have strip clubs and hookers in the US, too, right? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:30 PM
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They don’t, no genital check is required for female sports physicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:21 PM
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Almost like they’re evolutionarily made for it, right? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:11 PM
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Lol nope, not common sense. You haven’t proven that men can’t leave their partners and find another. Men throughout the world do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:06 PM
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I was raised in a strict religious community and would not recommend it. The community aspect is the most attractive part, but you have to put up with too much for that benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:05 PM
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I never had a genital check as part of a sports physical. That’s not a routine part of a female physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:03 PM
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Where does it fall apart? I genuinely believe not caring about women’s stories shows a lack of care for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:00 PM
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Haha I’m good on the burger, thanks. You made the claim, so however you’d like to make your case would be fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:59 PM
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Why do you want to try church?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:58 PM
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If you’re willing, try this out next time you’re enjoying a male empowerment story: Think about how the story would change if it had a female lead rather than a male lead. Would you still enjoy it? And if not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:55 PM
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Prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:50 PM
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So now you’re imposing genitalia checks on millions of children, since there’s a chance that a minuscule amount of them could be trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:50 PM
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There are differences between watching porn, reading erotica, watching a movie with a random sex scene in it, and reading a book that has a random sex scene in it. What was the book?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:38 PM
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Evolutionarily speaking, men have always been able to do the same. And they don’t even have to bear the costs of childbirth and aren’t expected to be active caregivers of their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:30 PM
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Sure, that’s some of them. And pretty much all video games are empowerment stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:09 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:05 PM
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Movies/Series with female protagonists just dont tend to interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:59 PM
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So just say that you don’t like specific genres of shows, like those that focus on romance or empowerment. It sounds like you do enjoy some stories about women’s lives. Do you enjoy stories about male empowerment, though? And if you do, what makes them different from their female-led counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:58 PM
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Come on. Finding something disinteresting = not caring about it. It’s understandable if you don’t like specific genres of stories, like romance or thrillers. Excluding every story that focuses on someone of the opposite sex is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:48 PM
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It definitely does. If you believe that no stories about women are interesting, then you don’t care about women or their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:30 PM
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A guy downthread just told me that he finds all stories with female protagonists disinteresting. Female protagonist isn’t a genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:25 PM
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Hilarious that finding all female-led stories disinteresting is an acceptable opinion among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:13 PM
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I can’t imagine working full time while caring for a toddler, even while WFH. That’s unreasonable and they should definitely get daycare for at least part of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:01 PM
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Lol lots of men refuse to watch things that focus on women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:56 PM
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Definitely. Ever made homemade chicken nuggets with cubed thighs? Really delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:48 PM
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Anyone seen Sharp Objects? It focuses on female violence and trauma. Might be interesting to some of you, if you’re willing to watch something with a female protagonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:30 PM
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Thanks! You’d agree that Statistic Brain doesn’t seem like the best source, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:20 PM
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Can you post the actual source? That’s what I’m asking for. I want to read the actual study on this. I would definitely expect therapists to cite their sources, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:57 AM
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Other fish in the sea. If he doesn’t want to be exclusive with me after 7 months, that’s fine. We can part ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:54 AM
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Can you find the actual source of these stats? I’m having a hard time. Just a lot of divorce lawyers and private investigators including the quote. And neither of them could possibly have a reason to post false statistics, could they? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:52 AM
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Why choose Catholicism over other religions? Aside from being raised in it, what convinces you it is the one true church?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:47 AM
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That would be very concerning for me, just like any former addiction would be. Especially since he’s still associating with people who participate in that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:17 AM
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Lol perfect example of why we both left those ridiculous belief systems
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:06 AM
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Mormonism and Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:40 AM
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My husband and I are both atheists who left our faiths as teens. It’s definitely something that bonded us early on and is still something that’s foundational to our lifestyle and longterm goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:59 AM
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Look for a restaurant supply store! They should have a traditional mop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:46 AM
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Spring break!!! Let’s go!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:26 AM
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Hahaha we do love rings
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:10 AM
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Have you looked at the median income for those areas?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:07 AM
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$100k isn’t enough to support a family. It definitely is. Agree with the rest, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:01 AM
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I don’t believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:00 AM
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👏
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:59 PM
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Explain watching golf on TV
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:58 PM
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Female beauty impacts status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:57 PM
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Also if this what you meant by extreme emotionality... then what you said previously is just not true. I have to assess this kind of thing all the time, when evaluating students for emotional disturbance. The assessment includes emotional lability, angry outbursts, crying, being withdrawn, etc. Disagree with me if you like, but trying to claim that I’m lying or being disingenuous is ridiculous. I’m beginning to agree with you that perhaps conversations between us are not productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:48 PM
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Come on, though. Let’s say that the emotional response was due to severe financial problems. That’s something that understandably upsetting. But it’s also something that would change their living situation and his lifestyle over the next year. Unemployment, a change in job, an extended depression or anger, etc. could all cause relationship issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:40 PM
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It's also just possible that your mother and your brother's partner are very good women. They might not be representative of the average woman. How do you know what the“average woman” prefers? What you describe is very different than what I’ve seen in my life. Women and society at large see women as the ones who can decide what feelings and emotions are appropriate and proportionate in men This stuff has been standardized by psychologists and isn’t just decided by women. Intense emotionality lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:27 PM
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Some of the Reddit posts I’m remembering had the breakup happening a year or more after they opened up. I think it’s much more likely that the difficulty that caused him emotional stress (like financial problems or potential infidelity) caused the breakup, not getting emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:08 PM
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It’s a TikTok trend with someone else’s audio. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:47 PM
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I don't think you can know what goes on in the relationships of your stepfather and your younger brother behind closed doors. Who takes up most emotional space and who is the one who has to sacrifice first when compromising? I spent almost 20 years in my stepfather’s house, so I definitely understand his relationship with my mother. They have a great one, but it’s not always perfect. I’m very close with my younger brother and he regularly tells me things about his relationship. I used to be clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:43 PM
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Lol why are you just spamming a TikTok trend? Especially one that was started by a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:29 PM
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My biggest models are my father, stepfather, and brothers. My father and older brother are very closed up, causing them to explode at inappropriate moments and alienate others. I hate that my father has encouraged that behavior for my brother. My stepfather and younger brother are much more open with their emotions, leading to more successful relationships and happier lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:21 PM
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No, I don’t. I think men who are willing to share their emotions openly with their spouses have the healthiest relationships around. Obviously I’m not including those who express their emotions via violence and anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:10 PM
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Redditors often seem to attribute breakups to opening up even when they shared their feelings way before the end of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:59 PM
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The excerpt was talking mostly about primary care physicians. Only 5% of the men included in that study were even involved in talk therapy. https://documents.manchester.ac.uk/display.aspx?DocID=55305
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:23 PM
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Drunk and stupid people are more willing to go without protection. Still not a good idea, though, even if you find someone receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:14 PM
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That excerpt is so misleading, as the clinicians involved were majority primary care providers, not therapists. And only 5% of the men included in this study were even involved in talk therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:05 PM
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Corny, flowers should come later in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:45 PM
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A pretty large percentage. Average female height in the US is under 5’4”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:37 PM
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That paper does not say that therapy doesn’t work for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:35 PM
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Didn’t someone post below that women are happiest when their boyfriend is 6 inches taller than them? So that means 5’ women are happy with a 5’6” guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:21 PM
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Particularly when it comes to the emotional aspects women generally don't meet the standards they set for men. Specifics?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:20 PM
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Think about how people respond to couples who aren’t looksmatched or who don’t come from the same class. It’s surprising and notable because it’s uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:15 PM
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Women who have unreasonable standards are also ridiculous. But most people aren’t unreasonable, since the vast majority of people end up married or in serious LTRs by their 30s. That includes the poor, fat, short, and ugly. Most people end up with their looksmatch and someone from their socioeconomic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:41 PM
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Women who have unreasonable standards are also ridiculous. But most people aren’t unreasonable, since the vast majority of people end up married or in serious LTRs by their 30s. That includes the poor, fat, short, and ugly. Most people end up with their looksmatch and someone from their socioeconomic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:19 PM
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Scope out women in medical fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:53 PM
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Explain it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:48 PM
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Women want men to have standards. Standards are a good thing. Demeaning women who don’t meet those standards and expecting women to meet standards that they themselves do not are the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:40 PM
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But men we lot don't care if we fit in society or not Huh? Lots of men do care if they’re socially excluded, including men who regularly post in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:35 PM
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Everyone has struggled at some point in relationships, even Stacy and Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:33 PM
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Be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:12 PM
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Here’s an example: https://www.education.pa.gov/Documents/Early%20Learning/Early%20Learning%20Standards/Early%20Learning%20Standards%20Kindergarten%202016.pdf Pages 93+ relate to social/emotional learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:48 PM
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I’m not sure how they handle it in science and health classes, but if that were to come up in my class I would quickly remind them to get focused on our curriculum. The biological basis of gender isn’t relevant to anything I teach. If they want to have that discussion, they can do so outside of my class. If someone were bullying a student because of their gender presentation, they’d get a warning or eventually a detention and call home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:45 PM
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Kids actually need to be taught how to make friends and treat others respectfully. Even when they’re out of their shell, they don’t automatically know how to make and keep friends. That’s taught at school via social / emotional learning curriculum and is a major part of elementary ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:33 PM
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What are you talking about, then? Teaching students to debate respectfully is an important part of school.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:20 PM
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Lol yes, of course it is. My students recently completed several Lincoln/Douglas debates about some political topics and did a great job developing their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:16 PM
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Nah, in K-12 it’s easy to make rubrics that consider the participation of each student. They’re doing most of the work in class, so you know who’s putting in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:48 PM
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School already requires you to talk to people of different viewpoints and work with others. I have a hell of a time forcing students to work in groups sometimes, but I do it because it’s good for them. They also have social/emotional learning instruction all throughout elementary, though the GOP is now trying to get rid of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:45 PM
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Anxious folks, here’s a reminder not to assume attention from strangers is automatically negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:26 PM
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That’s basically what happens once they get to school age (around 5). Most animal infants aren’t raised communally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:06 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:45 AM
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No, it benefits them reproductively. You see this in many other animals. Humans just take longer than most to leave the baby stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:44 AM
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Nah, both men and women benefit from short-term monogamy (like 5 years or so).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:36 AM
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Nah, the bad comes with the good. For example, I used to be an artist, but I changed careers because I hated the lifestyle. I don’t like going to parties with strangers and convincing them to give me money, which is what the majority of being an artist is. One of my good friends from college has gotten very successful with his art, with each piece selling for hundreds of thousands and bringing him awards and cool experiences abroad. I sometimes find myself envying his lifestyle, but then I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:20 AM
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All this talk about nice guys, here’s a melancholy tune on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NFWU-tSDrU
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:17 PM
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Lol nope
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:16 PM
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You are nice and respectful, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:08 PM
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Flirt with her. If there’s good banter, she could be into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:02 PM
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He was still hot back in his Game of Thrones days. I agree he’s looking pretty rough these days, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:26 PM
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Even into the 1960s, just doing laundry could take all fucking day. Most families didn’t have electric appliances to make their lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:19 PM
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Dissatisfied men who call themselves “nice guys” while claiming assertive men are “assholes” are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:51 PM
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You should ideally know them very well before marriage, but don’t assume you can predict whether you’ll ultimately divorce. You can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:36 PM
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You can’t possibly know all the ways they could change in life. You can’t predict the future. It’s ridiculous to suggest that you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:28 PM
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Even if you know them really well, you don’t know all the experiences that might happen to them or the ways they could change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:16 PM
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It’s a significant possibility in any relationship. Why wouldn’t it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:06 PM
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fuck, things could change and we might not work long-term That’s a possibly in any relationship, regardless of how similar you are to the other person or how good of a fit you seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:02 PM
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Most divorces seem to involve a lot of pain and difficulty. They aren’t done willy-nilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:54 PM
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Why do you believe this? Marriage is a partnership like any other. People change and things happen that make continuing that partnership ill-advised. Why stay in something that’s no longer working?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:51 PM
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Ah, that makes much more sense. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:16 PM
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High school alcohol use has significantly declined since the 80s, but over 18s are still partying plenty. The minimum age for alcohol increased to 21 in the 80s, which has reduced teen alcohol use over time (but perhaps increased college binging behavior). Can you link the data table that includes this in the American Time Use Survey? I’m struggling to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:06 PM
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Yes, most people don’t sit at home and drink alone. They’re spending time with friends or out at parties and bars. Binge and heavy drinkers also include serious partiers and folks with genuine alcohol problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:48 PM
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That’s not accurate at all. US alcohol use by age: https://www.statista.com/statistics/354265/current-binge-heavy-alcohol-use-among-persons-in-the-us-by-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:40 PM
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Do you have an ongoing sexual relationship with your GP?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:35 PM
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Agreed, most women would be happy to receive a dick pic from someone they have an ongoing sexual relationship with. If she hasn’t already seen your dick in person, it’s best not to send her a pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:21 PM
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The places still exist and teens still use them to hang out. What’s changed more significantly has been parental oversight. Parents are less willing to allow their kids to hang out in a parking lot for hours than they were in the 80s and 90s. Some of that’s for the best, as it’s led to dramatic reductions in teen pregnancy rates and crime. “It’s 11 PM, do you know where your children are?”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:01 PM
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Lol one of my male friends recently tried to claim that all women hate sandwiches and that they’re more of a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:45 AM
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What do you think has changed today? Teen desire to find love/sex or spaces like malls, stores, fairs, and movie theatres being used for that purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:43 AM
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Teens still do this. A Target opened up in my area recently and you’d think it was the promenade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:27 AM
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In my area (PA), there are tons of suitable houses in cities with public transit. Many of them are the same houses our grandparents lived in. But most people today want larger houses with a yard, not townhouses in a small city. Agreed on healthcare, that has ramped up in cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:06 AM
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You have it the wrong way round. Most creators would like for their movies, TV shows, and books to be enjoyed by both sexes. Publishers, producers, and marketers decide which genre or section it fits into.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:04 AM
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Where should I look for the bro lit section at the bookstore? Chick lit has it’s own shelf, perhaps to mark it as something men shouldn’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:49 AM
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“This is an important book, the critic assumes, because it deals with war. This is an insignificant book because it deals with the feelings of women in a drawing-room.” - Virginia Woolf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:28 AM
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Colleges are more difficult to get into, salaries have stagnated, cost of living (house costs in particular) and cost of raising children has sky rocketed. In 1950, the average home in the US had around 900 sq ft for 3.4 people. Today, it’s around 2300 sq ft for 2.6 people. Salaries today would more than cover the standard of living most people had then: a house under 1k sq ft, no car or 1 old car + public transit, no overseas vacations, no cellphone or computers, no household appliances like va…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:24 AM
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Tons of great songs made by men, but I hear what you’re saying. It’s frustrating that literature written by women / about women is often deemed chick lit, while literature written by men / about men is just literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:16 AM
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All this envy for our grandparents’ generation is weird. In the US, at least, they had a far worse quality of life than we do today. Anyone today who thinks they work 5x as hard as their grandparents is smoking something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:12 AM
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Yeah, high-end outdoors gear like Arc’teryx and Patagonia is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:54 AM
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That won’t happen for a long time. Administrative infrastructure is very slow moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:40 AM
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From the examples you gave, though, it’s clear that AI still functions as an amazing assistant for a human operator, not a human replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:35 AM
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Thank you! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:22 AM
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Nah, plenty of those jobs will still exist. Those companies benefit from making the process lengthy and difficult for customers, and even other departments. High billable hours and confusing, contradictory billing procedures are put there by design.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:16 AM
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OLD statistics do not predict what people do on drunken night outs or who they’re attracted to in person. Most people are still meeting their partners IRL, even within the 18-29 demographics. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/psdt_08-19-20_dating-relationships-010/ Also, most women do not rate themselves as 10s. Women often have terrible body image issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:09 AM
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Most people are still meeting their partners in real life, even within the 18-29 demographic. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/psdt_08-19-20_dating-relationships-010/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:25 AM
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Lol you’re hilarious. This happens all the time and is something you see regularly in bars and in LTRs, as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:59 AM
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When considering hypergamy, it doesn’t matter the range of women they find attractive. All that matters is whether the women they prefer are physically more attractive than they are. That’s also how hypergamy works for women. While women may prefer men who are higher status and income than them, plenty of them date and sleep with their equal and below.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:30 AM
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Women definitely date their looksmatch and fuck downward. Come on. Go to any bar at last call and you’ll see that happening plenty. Hell, go to any public place and you’ll see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:23 AM
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They do pursue women who are much higher than them in physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:18 AM
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Women on the other hand won’t even date or fuck below That definitely isn’t true. Most hookups women choose are just good enough for the night. The walk of shame is shameful because there’s often regret involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:01 AM
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So homely guys typically go after homely women? Nah. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:54 PM
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Why do we need a new term for something both sexes have always done?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:25 PM
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True, plenty of women who will do the same with your husband. But the person to blame in both cases is the one who broke their promises.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:53 PM
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That’s really sad 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:23 PM
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It’s easier and they meet more heterosexual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:52 PM
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Eh, people can blame their parents for a lot, but once they hit mid-20s that excuse starts wearing thin. There’s plenty that can be wrong with you by your 20s and there’s little your parents to do to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:50 PM
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No, I completely believe that. Normal looking men get laid all the time. If you can’t convince some normal looking woman to consider you as an option, then you’re doing something to turn her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:47 PM
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If you’re mid and not getting any action, then it’s definitely your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:37 PM
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The parents who fuck over their kids seem to stick to two extremes: they either tell their children everything that’s wrong with them (plus more) or they refuse to admit that anything could be wrong with their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:27 PM
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But did they raise you to be like them, or tell you you deserve the best without putting in the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:25 PM
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Lol, thanks for proving my point 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:05 PM
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Its about all of them appearance and status is talked about the most because none of the other stuff matters without it but for most its the other way around and the issues are caused by a lack of success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:00 PM
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Ugly, poor guys often get into relationships with ugly, poor women. Those who can’t even get those women also have something going on psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:59 PM
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Multiple men responded to this comment claiming exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:53 PM
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Oh now the ugly, poor guys get to have high standards? Lol, found their first psychological problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:50 PM
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Go hang out in a shitty bodega late on a Saturday. You’ll see plenty of ugly, poor guys going home with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:49 PM
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Plenty of ugly, poor guys get laid because they’re fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:45 PM
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Lol you can’t be serious. 😂 If they had attractive personalities and social behavior, they would have had success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:44 PM
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Plenty believe it’s completely about appearance and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:37 PM
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Men here really think there are no psychological differences between men who’ve had success with women and those who are ostracized by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:31 PM
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Think back to middle school and late elementary school. Those who shoot up or mature early (male and female) are treated strangely during that time. It reverses, but it takes a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:58 PM
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Why would you want that to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:25 PM
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How? Being attractive makes life easier across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:15 PM
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The men posting here are struggling with dating, so why wouldn’t people respond with advice for how to change that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:15 PM
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Sure it does. I’m sorry your marriages didn’t work out, but that doesn’t mean they don’t work out for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:07 PM
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Social acceptance of your relationship and children, joining your families, and social discouragement of behavior that might lead to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:33 PM
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Sure they do. Wanting to feel good about your appearance is still something you do for yourself, though. It’s not a request for harassment or assault and doesn’t mean they’re looking for a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:12 PM
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Oh it makes me feel good" bitch l don't think the world seeing your boobs makes you feel good but be my guest It does make them feel good, though. Being envied by other women and wanted by men makes them feel good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:04 PM
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Haha yep, been with my husband for over a decade. He’s pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:48 PM
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It can be a burden, but you don’t have to let it be. I’m a great cook, so I cook most of our meals at home. What do we do to make it equal? I make the shopping list and do the cooking, husband does the shopping and the cleanup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:45 PM
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Sorry dude, that’s a lot to overcome. I know you have some cash, are there programs out there that could help you focus on masking some of those behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:05 AM
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Some being autistic does not mean all are autistic. This study puts it at 8%: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00223980.2016.1175998
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:40 AM
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No, many use it as a crutch that allows them to act more fun around other people. That’s why it develops into an addiction for so many. Be more specific. What level of severity are you talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:37 AM
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It shouldn’t need to be said, but you claimed that you “can point to literally any school shooter and go "He's autistic" and be correct.” That’s obviously false.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:35 AM
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Nope, just anxiety and depression, like many non-autistic people have. Why do you think so many people lean on substances like alcohol to help with social interaction? You are way too hard on yourself physically. Keep losing weight and going to the gym, you’ll see results in how people respond to you. How are your social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:32 AM
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So is recasting every violent person as autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:27 AM
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Social interaction isn’t easy for a good portion of neurotypical people, even if it appears that way. Socializing with others can be very challenging. Honestly, it depends on the severity of the autism and the attractiveness of the person. Some people are definitely too weird to receive a warm reception from other people, especially if they also look unappealing. Others don’t have as much of an issue, since they’ve gotten good at masking and look reasonably attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:25 AM
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What behavior did you witness that convinced you of that? Nice job pushing those gym friendships to the bar, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:15 AM
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That’s genuinely terrifying. I’m so sorry you experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:12 AM
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Unfortunately, a good portion of crime is caused by those men doing shitty things in the pursuit of grandeur.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:33 AM
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And this is why most people stick with the status quo. People don’t like to rock the boat on a first date, lest it leave an unintended impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:35 PM
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Lol. When I was traveling, I lived in my employer’s house and got around 300 € in spending money a month. I was not experiencing luxury, but I did experience lots of adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:18 PM
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If my daughter wanted to marry a hardcore red-piller, she probably stopped listening to me a long time ago. So does it really matter what I think? My major concerns would be protecting her from physical abuse and encouraging her to maintain an income, which are the same concerns I would have for my son.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:34 PM
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As long as he’s happy and gets along with her well, what would be the problem with any of them? Remember that this was my first condition. If she wants to marry my son and he’s happy and gets along with her well, then I doubt she hates all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:56 PM
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RP does it all the time. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:31 PM
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It’s another way of saying “think positive” or “go for it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:13 PM
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Between 1-2 million. Interestingly, each female fetus grows over 4M eggs! So they lose 2-3 million during gestation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:33 PM
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Interacting with mixed society requires awareness of how your statements will be received. If you’re just looking to vent, personal writing or speaking with your friends is a better place for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:48 PM
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If she’s not being hugged by other women, there’s more going on than her appearance. Appearance isn’t the only thing that impacts loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:39 PM
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I’m really happy most of my 2 million eggs will go unused. Sounds like too many kids. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:35 PM
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Yeah, she’s probably not in the right place to be messed about by someone who doesn’t really like her. Regardless, though - I will never understand people who have sex without a condom without exclusivity. Pregnancy isn’t the only bad thing that can happen here, even if she was being truthful about her BC status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:33 PM
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Nah, historically they would have socially isolated the woman, just like they do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:28 PM
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Real response. The only one that could present an issue is the one who hates men. But if she wants to marry my son, then does she really hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:05 PM
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As long as he’s happy and gets along with her well, what would be the problem with any of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:53 AM
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Getting an education as a single mother is doable, but it’s very hard and often financially infeasible. Most women I know who had children young, unmarried, and without a degree made careers in hospitality and service. You can make good money, but it’s not an easy lifestyle. Why do you assume women don’t want a career? Isn’t that what this post is about, a woman being happy she chose to get her education and start a career instead of having a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:49 AM
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So she was incentivized to divorce by sex, not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:34 AM
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Who’s likely to retire making the higher salary, someone who started at 20 or who started at 40? Starting over and working low-level jobs is hard at 40, both financially and emotionally. You don’t see many people change careers after 40, since starting over and learning a new field is incredibly disruptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:33 AM
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Nope, she would have been financially better off staying in the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:14 AM
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Getting 50/50 is incredibly easy once children are 4+. Infant and toddlercare is a little different, since they don’t understand not having their primary caregiver accessible. Most fathers unfortunately don’t seek 50/50 custody, even though they could get it. It involves a significant lifestyle change that many men aren’t willing to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:13 AM
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Lol not my type, but you do you. Korean standards of beauty can be unreasonable, especially since plastic surgery is so common there. I do find Steven Yeun and John Cho very attractive, though. Perhaps because they have westernized mannerisms and style?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:01 AM
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Korean women don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:58 AM
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No, given how high her income is already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:50 AM
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Women getting custody more often is a major reason why they don’t benefit from divorce. The average child support payment doesn’t cover the income loss of caring for children full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:49 AM
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How about through friends, roommates, or at house parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:39 AM
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Women end up worse off than men do after divorce. They’re incentivized financially to stay married, not to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:37 AM
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Fewer than 10% of divorces involve alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:35 AM
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The majority of abortions are done with the father’s awareness and consent. Don’t act like abortion only benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:28 AM
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Yes, I have. It’s worked. But any relationship where either person feels they need to make their partner jealous typically won’t last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:24 PM
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Home is home. It’s understandable. Do you feel you’ll be safe going back?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:22 PM
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Yeah, that’s definitely socially acceptable. Doesn’t ensure success, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:56 PM
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No problem. Unfortunately, it’s one of the bigger things furthering income inequality. Poor kids are taught by more inexperienced teachers and sometimes no teachers at all. If they don’t have enough teachers to fill positions, they combine classes and buy workbooks or online programs to fill in. If the vacancy is unexpected, sometimes they don’t provide any instruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:47 PM
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the shortage of teachers that we hear about across America is likely in poorer communities? Yes, poorer communities often have crazy turnover due to unreasonable working conditions and low pay. Certain positions can also be harder to fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:07 PM
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Yes, PA.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:04 PM
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Teaching jobs in well-paying areas are very competitive. Usually several rounds of interviews and written responses, with a final demonstration lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:57 PM
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Jokes on all of them, sewer cleaners make less than most teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:45 PM
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Gym + dressing well is mostly for yourself. You won’t sleep with all the people who see you. Looking attractive makes life easier in many different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:36 PM
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So are you looking to discuss feminism with me or no? Earlier you said you didn’t want to talk with me about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:34 PM
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They smell nice and their hair is pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:29 PM
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If you’re spending hours a week completing homework assignments for some girl you’ve never met, you need to change your strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:26 PM
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Seems you’re confused about what most feminists are pushing. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:20 PM
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You said it, not me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:01 PM
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Job searching takes so much time. I’ve spent hours this week on the first round “interview” assignments for this one job. Sorry current job, you’re taking a backseat right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:00 PM
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What a meanie
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:56 PM
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Weren’t we comparing Europe to the US? That’s why I left Asian countries out. As I said, the US has super high rates due to poverty and guns. Those countries would have higher homicide rates if they refused to enact gun control, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:51 PM
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Lol how is adoption similar to traveling?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:39 PM
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For many people, adoption and fostering can be as fulfilling as procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:36 PM
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Do you believe Palestinians and Israelis are separate races?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:28 PM
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You believe support for Israel = support for racism? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:24 PM
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I have some coworkers who go to Disney multiple times a year. Seems like such a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:18 PM
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No specific religion, just parents pushing their political and religious beliefs onto their children. Teaching your teen to hate a celebrity because they’ve expressed support for Zionism is fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:13 PM
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