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Because your explanation as to why a higher N count isn’t a bad thing does not address what I laid forth about penis size mattering, which makes N count matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:07 AM
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Congrats it takes a strong will and support to succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:03 AM
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Ok, but that doesn’t preclude what I assert to be the main contributing factor in achieving maximal satisfaction during vaginal penetration: what’s going in there. Most of what you feel is displacement by the volume of the man’s penis. If he isn’t displacing as much, you won’t feel as much. If he isn’t reaching certain nerve endings, then he isn’t stimulating them in the most satisfying way. The G spot and vestibular bulbs are stimulated passively with girth. The posterior fornix and the anterio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:56 AM
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Ok, but that doesn’t refute what I claimed. I’m saying that, all else being equal, him being your first was his best shot at satisfying you, compared to now that you have first hand experience with better men. Even though you have more knowledge of what you like in bed now, that still wouldn’t help him to satisfy you better than you’ve now experienced with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:48 AM
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I didn’t make that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:47 AM
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Yes, that’s why it’s best to rely upon her experience being limited prior to meeting her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:09 PM
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Because playing it up for the man is to be expected. You can’t trust that good sex = good enough to keep her from wanting better again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:48 PM
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I disagree. Most people’s lives, all else being equal, would be immensely more enjoyable with more money. Health issue? Money. Housing issue? Money. Vehicle issue? Money. Food issue? Money. Workplace issue? Money (freedom to leave) Business or Passion Project issue? Money. Fashion issue? Money. Childcare issue? Money. Legal issue? Money. Physical security issue? Money. It’s not that money buys happiness, it buys you out of most causes of misery and gives you the ability to use your time more eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:27 PM
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I’m not against them talking politics, but they deserve to be called out as serving an agenda. Like it’s not a coincidence that Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, and the Chiefs were promoted beyond their organic popularity within their respective spheres - they were catapulted to the peak of exposure to enable Swift to tell people to vote (which is not a neutral call to electoral participation).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:23 PM
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It’s common for women who experience a skilled man who has large size to have a permanently raised bar for the level of stimulation that they crave, to the point that they realize how that lack of size and skill was why they had not previously orgasmed from deep penetration
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:16 PM
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Most want both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:07 PM
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Simply put, the more experiences a woman has with men who are better than average men (including things like penis size), the less capable average men are of fully satisfying her. Most men don’t have enough appeal to offset being suboptimal in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:06 PM
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I don’t care if they care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:24 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:21 PM
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-Answering a Question Tutorial- Example Question: “If you are in a relationship and you don’t hire a maid, approximately which percentage of the time do you do your partner’s laundry?” What Not to Say: “I’m not in a relationship” - the question isn’t for you “I hire a maid who does the laundry” - the question isn’t for you “I don’t track the percentage points of my contribution to chores” - you don’t need to, OP asked for an approximate figure, which can be your best guess “Why do you even care?…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:16 PM
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I didn’t say you cared or that it would change your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:07 PM
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They don’t broadcast how their past experiences nullify their ability to be satisfied with average men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:47 PM
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No, women deserve to hear the reasoning which invalidates their claims that it’s meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:46 PM
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Most people have sex with a significant other, which is their main social contact
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:44 PM
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First of all, insecurity is normal. In fact, for most men, it’s a sign that they are in touch with reality; most women can find better men than them to have casual sex with, and most women are comfortable waiting for one of those men to commit, and even remaining single for life. To reign in one’s insecurities is a lie to the world. Women just want there to be more men who are worthy of not feeling insecure than actually exist. Being insecure = not hot to women because it’s a proxy for the man’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:34 PM
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If the norm is for men to initiate communication with women because they want sex and relationships more than women do, then when women refuse to initiate communication with men, they can’t say that they truly want sex and relationships to a degree that makes their grievances about being alone valid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:30 PM
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Most of it’s done online
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:16 PM
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No, it’s valid for men to complain (this is mostly online) to give society a realistic picture of how men are feeling. It’s valid for men to stop caring to self maximize if the cost benefit of doing so ceases to be worth it to them - and the complaint is about those circumstances, not that it’s literally impossible to achieve anything with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:03 PM
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Cue the “this has always been obvious” gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:27 AM
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Alright, then let me rephrase my stance: It’s most beneficial to society for people to pair with those they happen to socialize with in their young adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:09 PM
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I don’t think there’s a solution. We created a monogamous society in which most men were needed by women, for a reason. Sad but true. The best we can do is to ensure peace through the state’s threat of force (I had better ideas, but those are wrong, apparently).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:29 PM
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If it doesn’t matter then there’s no point in FPP and TBA spending all week in here crying back to them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:57 PM
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They just aren’t who he wants, clearly, or he would have run into them by now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:56 PM
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This is why people naturally used to date among their social groups…to verify things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:55 PM
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It also doesn’t mean that it was those people’s preference, which shows up in things like leverage/deference within the relationship, probability of relationship dissolution, etc. The guy might also have offsetting factors like money, impending inheritance, large penis size, social status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:53 PM
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I agree, but women should tolerate listening to men who voluntarily choose to explain themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:52 PM
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The notion that average couples are people settling out of convenience is precisely what non-RP people push back against. They mostly insist that these people found “their person” against all odds, despite neither one of them hanging a poster on their bedroom wall of anyone who seems remotely like the other. Perhaps most couples are emotionally lazy because they settled. This likely isn’t something they chose, initially; they got their hearts broken by people they actually preferred, first. It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:47 PM
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2 N count N count N count Remember, the greatest predictor of future behavior is past behavior, except for when it comes to who women allow to insert their penis into their vagina /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:04 PM
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Yes, so to rephrase my previous comment: In a world with agriculture, cities, and state formation (humanity’s reality for centuries and our current reality), the gender roles that formed made sense based on how biology collided with this reality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:00 AM
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Is that its shadow through the leaf?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:46 AM
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Gender roles mostly had a basis in biology
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:45 AM
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It’s like old AI, the teeth and fingers aren’t proper
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:44 AM
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I agree that this is how it works, but I disagree with the notion that a better informed person (knows what good looks like to them from the internet vs being stuck in a local scene) ought to intentionally moderate their preferences. If the species dies out because it turns out that most people alive today aren’t desirable enough to reproduce with, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:42 AM
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Withholding something doesn’t necessitate that it’s something that’s owed to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:11 AM
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No, they aren’t going to ask men because men don’t pretend to be the best at communication
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:10 AM
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Women claim to be superior at communicating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:08 AM
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Women selectively want to be treated like a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:08 AM
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Oh shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:30 AM
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It’s not about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:28 AM
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Selective enforcement and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:57 AM
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Everyone should be given a stipend to spend on any given race and that’s the limit for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:55 AM
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It’s relevant to any man seeking to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:35 AM
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It’s not just looks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:21 AM
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<image> My thought is, wow, tons of women mate with men who already fathered a child with another woman, instead of choosing a rejected man Also, women don’t really like men who embrace the liberal ideology to the same extent that they pretend to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:08 AM
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If a special interest group is funding an ad against a political candidate, it should be limited to how that politician conflicts with their group’s official views, not a catchall attack ad with whatever they think will sway voters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:05 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:50 PM
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Desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:50 PM
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Yes, because less conditional =/= more likely to be met
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:25 PM
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Conditional/Unconditional being a binary does not invalidate my assertion that one’s standards for sex and relationships can be *closer to* being unconditional than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:18 PM
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I already addressed it; your reply is just reiterating that we have an irreparable difference of opinion on the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:15 PM
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Someone get a crane and drop this puppy off at the kill shelter please
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:13 PM
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The redacted word was desirable, by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:13 PM
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Don’t put words in my mouth; I can redact whatever I want from my commentary. There is such a thing as “nearly unconditional” because having one condition is closer to unconditional than having several conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:05 PM
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They can have less of a life beyond their relationship than a lesser desirable man and still maintain their relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:04 PM
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And yet, that man was a stranger up until the moment someone vouched for them… what does that tell you? There’s nothing precluding strangers from being just as good, you only feel safer with the friend of a friend because of information you were told, which can also be true of the men you’re wary of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:53 PM
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Most providers have convinced themselves that they enjoy it, because they don’t get the same results when they choose not to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:42 PM
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Men not just raping women when they have the opportunity is a modern construct. The point being, society has rightly decided that we are to move beyond our base desires and historical outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:33 PM
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Women don’t live by this. Society largely expects men to handle women who are openly weak, including due to things from childhood (which should make sense for everyone, since those wounds are literally scientifically most likely to last forever).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:31 PM
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It’s not self contained, it manifests outwardly as optimism and a greater likelihood of not giving up, so they will behave differently
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:11 PM
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Yeah, because those people are likely more (redacted) than OP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:09 PM
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As unconditionally as possible, like just be (redacted) and relatively kind
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:08 PM
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Many men get to experience nearly unconditional love provided they are desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:07 PM
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To be fair, September is kind of the perfect balance Late spring/early summer and early autumn are goated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:05 PM
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Yeah, but that’s only because desirable people don’t need to try, so trying is a signal of lesser desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:01 PM
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I think their point was their mindset and choices created an increased probability of those events occuring
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:00 PM
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It’s because people think they are the main character, like their life actually means something in the grand scheme of this planet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:59 PM
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But what you’re missing is these cons don’t apply to people who can easily date. Those people didn’t need to overcome their desire for sex and relationships…they just got what they wanted enough to have the luxury, yes luxury of avoiding the pitfalls you mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:55 PM
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Yeah, because women like men who signal that they could do better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:20 PM
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No, women tend to lose attraction to their partner when they are in close proximity to a better man for long periods of time on a regular basis. This is why most couples are more reclusive than when they were single. The illusion that they found their ideal partner is only sustainable without direct proof to the contrary being in their face continually The extent to which this leads to a breakup/divorce is mediated by the woman’s desirability and optionality of partners outside of the relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:06 PM
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Of course they can make their own choices. You asserted that women’s choices are only relevant to women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:03 PM
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There doesn’t need to be any context - it’s been asserted by many women that since it’s their prerogative to choose whomever they want (or nobody), that it’s out of line for men to tell women to consider lowering their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:02 PM
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That’s simply untrue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:00 PM
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That’s never seen as valid when said to women, and I was referring to overall desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:00 PM
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I personally don’t mind, but people have been actioned against for talking about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:28 PM
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Attention from someone isn’t required to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:27 PM
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You’re missing my point - there a tons of men who, even if self maximized, are only considered by women who they are attracted to because they have enough wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:27 PM
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Women’s choices in sex and dating are the limiting factor in most men’s success - so yes, if not for women filtering out unsuccessful men, they wouldn’t be so lonely in the sexual and romantic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:23 PM
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I’ve known of a woman who really thought they had a meet cute with their partner, but actually the guy stalked her into a coffee shop to strike up a conversation (he doesn’t even like coffee)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:21 PM
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Babies look at attractive adults for longer…it’s built into our operating system
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:15 PM
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I prefer sunlight into the evening
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:10 PM
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Do you think forum sliding occurs on pinned posts? Take a look at the Looks post - walls of text posted in response to a second comment (a very low effort question) by the user who happens to also have the Best comment, then the next comment down is a wall of text All of this more than halfway through the 7 day period of the post, and these users had to manually sort it by New to even see the comments they replied to It makes sense that they don’t want to hand us the keys to the very first comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:04 PM
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The point is, nobody’s kids are special enough to justify a worse quality of public education than was possible due to their parents’ spending money on a private school - that money ought to go to the education of all kids in that district/state. Most people oppose cronyism, nepotism, discrimination, etc. It all starts with parents funneling their advantaged kids into advantaged education tracks, sometimes as early as Pre-School. If their sperm, eggs, and parenting are so fucking good, then they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:53 PM
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I disagree, this only works if you’re desirable. For most men, the women who would still want them without effort are not worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:52 PM
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Take a day off FFS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:50 PM
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I read the whole thing, but your snark about not reading the whole thing makes it unworthy of a response
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:48 PM
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This is just a compulsory heterosexuality post
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:41 PM
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Because every single time someone shares the same space as them, they are at the mercy of that person’s desire to live outside of an institution
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:56 AM
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lol who says the specific app? Just say online
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:43 AM
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But don’t you dntss dntss dntss love how DNTSS DNTSS DNTSS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:41 AM
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It’s called hobosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:40 AM
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Good luck not letting her off the hook
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:39 AM
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I’m the same way about food. I’m like…what’s in this? I’m concerned about what you’re trying to get to my heart through food 🥁
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:36 AM
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You mean the sorority
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:34 AM
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Nah, nobody’s kids are special. Get in line with everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:33 AM
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Forum sliding on the looks thread for real lol such a busy 3rd/4th day with massive walls of text Looking glowly on here, get your 🕶️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:29 AM
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To be fair, there’s something to be said for the juxtaposition of women’s femininity and the masculine coded gender neutral outfits. It’s the same phenomenon as the pink shirt guy; it’s not that pink is hot in men, it’s that the man is masculine enough to afford the hit to attractiveness. When a lesser masculine man wears pink they just look gay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:25 AM
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I disagree. We ought to raise kids who can eventually come to grips with reality. It’s a disservice to them to allow them to literally set the baseline for their future weight/body distribution under the impression that they aren’t doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:21 AM
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Wow do I try way too hard when making posts lol… who knew I could just post some one paragraph musing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:08 AM
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Where did he say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:38 AM
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Men are utterly shitty about…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:37 PM
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If they care enough to say anything, including a “no” or “disagree” (especially with snark) then it’s valid to expect an explanation from them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:55 PM
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Well everyone is one of everyone else’s others…so it’s valid to hold people to a basic standard of decorum
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:53 PM
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Most people who are in relationships had sex relatively soon after or before committing to one another…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:39 PM
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No, it’s up to people not to be sassy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:38 PM
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It should just be “No, because…”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:27 PM
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Does this logic extend to men’s assessment of how their lives are? I highly doubt it, and therefore I don’t see this standard as legit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:26 PM
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OP didn’t say they aren’t allowed to disagree. He’s criticizing how they do it, like how women criticize how men speak
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:24 PM
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It’s not neutral disagreement. The recipient is meant to feel especially incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:22 PM
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And yet, attention from members of the groups which you desire sex and relationships with…is literally necessary to have sex or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:22 PM
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Women should be more articulate, then. They are not doing themselves any favors when they refuse to make a cogent argument and instead just provide snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:20 PM
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You can trust them all you want over a long period of time…it will still happen to most men who need money to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:53 PM
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They don’t need to lead with money for it to be the main determining factor in women choosing to give them a chance. You’re also assuming that what makes these men sub-optimally desirable is changeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:29 PM
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The looks thread is sorted by best instead of new…again
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:11 PM
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This guy would slay compared to the vast majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:10 PM
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Good point, it’s not just in sex and dating that they face an uphill battle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:07 PM
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I’ve found that I could make a list of preferences that does most of the vetting, but yes I agree that there comes a point at which it’s a judgement call
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:04 PM
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Canthal tilt off the chaaain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:03 PM
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She has those “surprised” brows
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:02 PM
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Niche? It’s called a male model who could work for literally any company
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:01 PM
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Where are you, LA? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:00 PM
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It’s not a coincidence that 4B started in Asia
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:57 PM
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It’s still common because most men aren’t that desirable without money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:54 PM
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Like I said, they think it’s worth the tradeoff because they can’t get the same results without being used
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:53 PM
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Personality = proxy for one’s value in life You don’t behave in that desirable way unless the world has conditioned you to through reinforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:52 PM
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Being used
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:49 PM
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We just disagree… it’s objectively more normal in my opinion to have lack of sex with regularity be a dealbreaker than how much money one’s partner earns, since you can’t have a sexual relationship without sex. If you can have a sexual relationship without X, Y, or Z, then those aren’t valid dealbreakers in the same way that lack of sex is, and therefore it’s more appropriate to consider one who requires X, Y, or Z of their partner to be “using their partner” for X, Y, or Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:47 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/VcbUomsnvF
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:43 PM
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It feels natural to them because they can’t get as desirable of women without spending money on them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:41 PM
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Yeah, so you’re supposed to put two and two together and understand that the reasoning I provided for why that’s not using women for sex, forms the underlying principle of “it’s not using someone in a relationship if it’s a fundamental aspect of a relationship”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:40 PM
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Do you think it’s a coincidence that most of the mass violence perpetrators are relatively unattractive? I don’t, but they are still solely responsible for choosing to commit harm and I do not condone it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:34 PM
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So you agree with OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:33 PM
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You asked “Is that just using women for sex”? And I answered “no”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:31 PM
2

Sex is a more normal part of a relationship than requiring one’s partner to earn at least X amount of money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:28 PM
2

Most men aren’t desirable without the added benefit of their money… how about look at what the fish are biting on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:27 PM
2

That doesn’t preclude the normalcy of men being used for money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:26 PM
4

Yeah, they don’t care to date those women, though. If women are allowed to complain about a lack of “eligible” bachelors, then so too can men have unnecessary standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:24 PM
9

It’s not a coincidence that the men who still find success with desirable women are mostly wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:23 PM
1

No, because sex is a fundamental part of a sexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:22 PM
1

A report is not a retort
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:25 AM
1

Oh fuck off already
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:23 AM
1

I’m the one who literally said it’s mostly true that men are that way…I’m not threatened by this “weakness” among men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:12 PM
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This may possibly be the longest “no” ever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:11 PM
-1

Most women at the very least subconsciously prefer men who fulfill traditional gender roles, so since most men already struggle to find a partner who they would prefer to be with, it makes sense that they do their best to fulfill those roles, even if only out of pure self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:33 PM
1

We can agree to disagree. If men never posed a threat to women, they wouldn’t be nearly as hellbent on being financially independent from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:46 PM
-6

We live in a world with men and women…so I was describing what motivates most women, in reality, today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:30 PM
-4

Women aren’t truly internally motivated, though, they merely don’t want to rely on men (who can harm them)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:01 PM
-2

It’s mostly true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:32 AM
-3

I like the post ⬆️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:32 AM
2

Those who care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:20 AM
-3

They say it’s wrong to have anything other than a flesh light basically, and they generally oppose its use while she’s present
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:21 PM
1

How does this conflict with OP’s position?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:09 PM
2

How does this conflict with OP’s assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:08 PM
3

Yeah, getting tired of the typical feminist “reverse uno” rhetoric of everything being men’s fault. It’s ok ladies, you like masculine men on average…you’ll get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:06 PM
1

That term would be more appropriate for the men who code as fem to socialize, usually by basing their personalities on the women in their lives while growing up. It’s like a preemptive “I’m not capable of harm” flag that gets them ahead at work in female dominated fields
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:03 PM
-1

1-10 is based on how they rank vs other members of their gender in terms of mass appeal among the opposite gender…that doesn’t preclude variance in how individuals see them, because it’s a net rating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:59 PM
4

You’re replying to him in a parent comment in a debate thread, which indicates that you disagree with him… Why? Your position requires support, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:58 PM
2

It must be hard to need to click on, read, and comment under them all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:57 PM
–

AI could have solved this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:40 AM
0

No, its their choice and it’s a tradeoff
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:49 AM
1

I think it’s just due to mere exposure to more people. I looked through my yearbook recently and while the general “ranking” of the women in terms of first impression attractiveness remained largely the same, none of them, not even “the hottest chicks on campus” stood out in the greater social media context now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:07 AM
1

Lmao too true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:00 AM
1

Breast not chest, cup not bust
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:59 AM
1

lol sans face
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:56 AM
3

I agree with your observation of what men and women emphasize
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:55 AM
2

No, one org doesn’t speak for all men who care about looks to this extent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:54 AM
1

Not everyone is in the same time zone, and often it’s just now morning for them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:40 AM
8

I hope that everyone is well and had a good day, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:33 AM
0

Much of the disparity in how men and women are held accountable is due to Gamma Bias
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:49 PM
3

That speaks to a lack of conviction in their feminist beliefs, relative to those who ID as a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:45 PM
4

High quality options tend to like masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:43 PM
13

A near 30 point gap in singlehood cannot be attributed to a disparity of singlehood within a group that’s only like 20% of the total population
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:10 PM
1

No, quality women can afford to be selective enough to prefer the more masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:52 PM
6

If you aren’t a feminist, you oppose at least some aspects of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:32 PM
-1

It makes non-feminist women more readily visible and represented
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:25 PM
6

It’s best for society
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:15 PM
14

Women can talk about it all they want, but they ought to report it to law enforcement first
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:59 PM
7

Perhaps those who aren’t should be more vocal and oppositional to the feminists then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:54 PM
9

Excellent post. Number 9 is a huge issue and people hate when you point it out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:05 PM
3

This is why you make these debate posts: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/vilaOLW5pI
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:34 PM
–

Nice bass line
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:41 AM
0

The answer is in next week’s thread
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:05 PM
1

Which song is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:03 PM
3

I hope that everyone is well and having a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:01 PM
1

Nice, how is it in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:08 AM
4

I hope that everyone is well and enjoying their evening (or whichever time it is)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:09 AM
3

I hope that everyone is well and having a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:25 PM
3

The issue is that they aren’t merely assertive or extroverted…they are low key conniving with plausible deniability and the same women who are supposedly dialed in to how men deceive them are willfully blind to this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:11 PM
6

No, it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:06 PM
7

I should have specified that explicit, credible, immediate threats to bodily harm are coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:05 PM
5

All I’m saying is fear of undesirable consequences does not rob women of their autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:44 PM
5

She can, but that possibility doesn’t invalidate asking again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:42 PM
5

The issue at hand isn’t whether or not those people are acting perfectly, it’s whether or not the people being forced to speak up are being wronged by not getting what they want without speaking up. To me, the people ought to be more comfortable with spelling things out if that’s what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:41 PM
6

Why can’t he check for if she’s open to changing her mind? That doesn’t undermine her ability to say no
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:29 PM
4

The point is that being an asshole isn’t actually what’s holding them back
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:28 PM
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It’s self evident
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:24 PM
13

Oh so she can’t leave because of social pressure? That’s not how autonomy works
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:23 PM
0

That’s ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:19 PM
1

I’m not replying to you lol fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:18 PM
4

They hyper focus on those guys because they disprove the justification that they are given for why they are single and sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:17 PM
11

Social norms cater to weak people…women need to actually grow some lips. And quite honestly, if they are too afraid to, that’s their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:16 PM
3

I tend to agree with you, but I’m tired of this disempowered rhetoric of “asking = rape” Like, no, women are afraid of actually shutting it down because they’re weak human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:12 PM
7

No, he did not. Bypassing consent would mean actually r’ing the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:01 PM
5

Call it whatever you want, but society is prejudiced against men and treats them in ways that wouldn’t be tolerated if it were any other demographic, regardless of their threat profile
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:55 PM
2

If it doesn’t stop him, then leave, and if you’re unable to, be more careful where you end up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:53 PM
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It’s not about the show
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:52 PM
8

They are most certainly not using the “stop asking and that’s my final answer” wording They throw their hands up and point to “when women refuse” like they have zero agency
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:51 PM
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If you can’t get a match who you would consent to sex with on dating apps for an entire year, you should be paid by the government for being peaceful and contributing to society
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:50 PM
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Michael realizing those classes he took aren’t worth a damn
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:46 PM
4

”If a woman doesn't like how she's being asked, then she ought to speak up and insist that he stop asking, and that her final answer is no. If she's afraid of how he will react, then she shouldn't be alone with that man to begin with.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:45 PM
15

”If a woman doesn't like how she's being asked, then she ought to speak up and insist that he stop asking, and that her final answer is no. If she's afraid of how he will react, then she shouldn't be alone with that man to begin with.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:42 PM
2

Only for those who lost the genetics race Most people who heavily modify their bodies aren’t naturally hot, that’s why they resort to making themselves unique because that’s their main value proposition
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:26 PM
17

Why can’t she just do what I explained above?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:24 PM
-1

I don’t want to hear about victim complexes from women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:23 PM
3

No, it’s not. I’m tired of seeing women think fake everything is hot. Beauty is about health
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:21 PM
1

Most women prefer men with a several day’s growth “beard” Most women who do not are bi or other
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:20 PM
3

No, feminists want a man who puts himself aside for her. It’s not driven by a desire for ideological cohesion between her and her man; it’s driven by a desire for more control and preferable treatment in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:18 PM
1

This is stupidly easy for men to exploit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:16 PM
5

The quote is accurate, since literally everyone possesses the ability to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:16 PM
58

If women want to be treated like the intelligent, educated, informed, autonomous, empowered beings which they purport to be when it comes to every other scenario, then it’s only right to hold them to their word. If a woman doesn’t like how she’s being asked (instead of being r’d by the way), then she ought to speak up and insist that he stop asking, and that her final answer is no. If she’s afraid of how he will react, then she shouldn’t be alone with that man to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:11 PM
1

I’ve noticed those noticers as being insufferable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:04 PM
1

Shaved head with swim cap Tinted teflon coated goggles Ear guards Gas mask Throat guard Puncture proof top Bullet proof vest Durable gloves Titanium athletic cup Puncture proof bottom Steel toe boots
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:02 PM
1

I’m just sharing my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:48 PM
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This answer is unnecessarily hostile
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:41 PM
5

That just speaks to how small of a portion of men that they find to be preferably desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:42 AM
2

Gamma bias
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:47 PM
2

I hope everyone has a great day ☀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:12 PM
3

Yeah, I mean feel free to take it for granted, I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:54 PM
5

Historically, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:32 PM
3

Yes, it is, because the overwhelming vast majority does not answer “yes” to those
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:35 PM
1

10% of men will forever be pieces of garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:34 PM
4

It’s gamma bias
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:33 PM
2

No, that’s a slippery slope fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:26 PM
4

No…where did I say that? You all love making assumptions I merely think we owe it to men to acknowledge that much of their dissatisfaction in life is a direct result of women’s historically newfound freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:48 PM
2

The best part is that they both work from home at least half of the time, so there’s no legit reason why they can’t supervise them properly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:51 PM
3

It makes me wonder if they’re being used for security, in which case the owners should understand how it’s actually increasing the probability of an incident
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:47 PM
2

Right? One of the greatest points of emphasis to children when the parents get a pet is how it’s an ongoing responsibility to supervise and manage their behavior. Apparently that was a load of crap and you can just…treat them like grazing cattle lol We have a wonderful neighborhood, but I’ve never seen them walk these dogs once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:44 PM
1

If it weren’t for all of the times I’ve been told as man that I have to go above and beyond to make others feel comfortable, I would be more receptive to how their choices are technically legal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:42 PM
1

I learned which breed they are by googling “list of loudest dogs” and scrolling like once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:40 PM
1

I thought it was a written by a woman at first, because this is legit their strat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:30 PM
1

Well, all it would take is women understanding that big men can be killed with the pull of a trigger, but their brains refuse to embrace reality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:29 PM
3

Q4All: Is it acceptable to live in a neighborhood and buy two hunting dogs to leave in the front yard (unsupervised with an invisible fence) for up to hours at a time, several times per day, every day…when you know for a fact that they always have and always will bark and bay incessantly at every passing person and vehicle (and often at nothing perceptible by humans)? It seems like one of the least considerate and most annoying things one could legally subject their neighbors to. If I were execu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:23 PM
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Only when men do it, obviously. Women always have consent
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:20 PM
3

Yeah, it’s such a rape culture…we only have fucking studies about how bad it is to…checks notes, be attractive to women by using status and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:18 PM
4

The things listed weren’t bad until the ones that had like 10-15% reporting “yes”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:17 PM
2

Children and young men can be and were gaslit not to believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:01 PM
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There’s more to equality than earnings. Women don’t seem to mind inequality when it sees them as a 25 point majority in colleges
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:14 AM
2

Yeah it’s called being heterosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:12 AM
5

It’s amazing to me that we’re pretending it was never denied as being how things always work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:11 AM
2

They generally aren’t the women who have a choice in the matter (not desirable). They gain a sense of moral superiority by asserting these supposed principles
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:11 AM
1

It depends on your demo. If you’re an office worker, it’s about the old money aesthetic. If you’re in the hood, you’ll get further with hot drip
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:07 AM
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You’re rhetoric relies heavily on “I decided that you belong to X group, and therefore I don’t need to debate the point at hand, because you aren’t aligning with my assumptions about you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:04 AM
3

<image> wtf Reddit let me type
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:44 AM
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How about answer the main claim in the title first, since you’re so pressed for effort and time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:39 AM
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No, women don’t care about equality, they think it’s fair when they are on top
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:38 AM
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That’s an issue because it all starts with academia
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:38 AM
4

I didn’t say there’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:45 AM
6

No, people just read into things and make presumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:44 AM
4

No, you’re making up that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:04 AM
4

No, I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:04 AM
8

It’s not an unfair cost, but it is a direct consequence of women’s freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:03 AM
8

No, women can’t come to terms with the reality that their freedom is being paid for with men’s sexlessness and singlehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:02 PM
9

It’s still valid to express dissatisfaction with that state of affairs. Women are allergic to hearing men be dissatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:24 PM
7

It’s a fact that women’s standards are the limiting factor in those men’s success, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:12 PM
6

I don’t disagree with you. You still can’t prove your assertion, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:58 PM
13

Ok, but the mere expression of dissatisfaction with how, unlike many of their peers, these men are sexually unsuccessful, gets treated like some sort of affront against women, instead of something to be treated with a validating acknowledgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:58 PM
5

It’s something I’m saying, therefore, it’s rightfully presumed to be my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:29 PM
7

The criticism is about the men forcing the concession that it was likely beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:29 PM
1

You’re in a more normal part of the world. The US is obsessed with maximizing outcomes and competition
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:27 PM
3

I understand that. I’m referring to normal posts about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:26 PM
5

Yeah, because that’s the nature of subconscious thought…I can’t prove anything, you can’t either; we just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:22 PM
21

It’s a self perpetuating cycle, yes, but it started with them being rejected, then they complain, then they get stigmatized
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:19 PM
2

This is why they ban AI posts because it’s able to sidestep that bs by using clinical and dry language
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:06 PM
2

lol too true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:05 PM
1

I love that scene from Louis…a true RP moment that needed to be shown to us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:05 PM
4

Do you hold women who exclusively date men who are wealthier than them to this standard? Aren’t they being r’d every day because their entire lifestyle is predicated on their sexual and romantic relationship with these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:01 PM
3

Are looks posts actually banned? I’ve seen several of them and they haven’t been taken down despite being reported. I could make looks posts every week, but I don’t because I know that mine would be taken down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:00 PM
0

Thank you for circling back to all of the questions she ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:59 PM
1

Yeah, society doesn’t care about men and needs them to be demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:58 PM
13

It’s called incentives and basic psychology. It’s similar to how wealthy people feel the urge to believe in meritocracy. It’s easier to enjoy life believing that they deserve their wealthy life, and that those around them who are literally suffering, deserve it. People need to believe that sexually unsuccessful men deserve to be. People need to believe that there exists a possibility for everyone to find love and happiness as long as they are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:49 PM
17

The behavior is a direct result of their virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:49 PM
4

I never denied the possibility of men choosing to delude themselves. Yes, normal people can convince themselves that what they can get is what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:47 PM
10

They is society… And no, I’m not asserting that there’s a nefarious plot against ordinary men; I’m merely citing the manifestations of the subconscious urge most people have to turn a blind eye to the price these men pay for the peace of mind of the sex havers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:45 PM
22

Yes, men are treated more critically when they are sexually unsuccessful. It’s a rare occasion for society to affirm the goodness and positive attributes of sexually unsuccessful men. The societal narrative that lack of sex = bad person if they have anything to say about their dissatisfaction functions to marginalize these men. Society is afraid of acknowledging that most of these men are unsuccessful because women are free to not need men, because they fear these men checking out of society. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:26 PM
6

No, most of those men don’t say anything wrong. You want the perception to be that they are all like that because it makes it easier to dismiss the validity of sexually unsuccessful men’s dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:00 PM
22

That’s fine, but they still make men out to be wrong for wanting what these same women don’t bat an eye at successful men wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:58 PM
33

Men wouldn’t act like women owe them anything for being a good person if women didn’t demonize sexually unsuccessful men as being inherently bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:57 PM
2

Most women are turned off by that prospect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:55 PM
3

Since when are new looks posts allowed? Seen a few recently, and they are not so coincidentally from a BP perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:18 PM
3

It’s passive because they just existed to get those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:48 PM
1

It looks like not taking anything for granted. For example, when complaining about something, throw in a quick, “While it is nice to have more freedom than most women to have ever walked this planet, it would be even better if…x, y, z”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:38 PM
0

Like you said? Then don’t repeat yourself, we were done after I spoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:27 PM
2

2
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:20 AM
2

Amen to the title
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:56 AM
0

You implied it and any intelligent reader will pick up on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 AM
0

So you told me, in a direct reply, that it seems to be hard for a lot of men to do what you describe at the beginning of your reply, then you openly thanked god for the men who (unlike the men like me) aren’t ignorant, sniveling bastards. That’s a personal insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:08 AM
5

Men don’t make their entire personality feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:54 PM
5

So you agree with OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:51 PM
6

Jeffrey Epstein was friends with Ghislane Maxwell and many other women. As long as women keep using heuristics to judge men, they will get wrecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:45 PM
2

Because men have a more concentrated distribution at the bottom and top of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:42 PM
2

Hey, we shun context around here just so you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:41 PM
-2

I disagree. Two adults = none of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:40 PM
3

He’s not acting like that, he’s saying that’s never a consideration. The gap in and of itself with an older man is usually disproportionately criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:39 PM
5

That’s fine, but BP people ought to explicitly acknowledge this phenomenon when stating their views instead of almost universally appealing to a nebulous and mostly non-existent agreed upon societal standard to justify their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:38 PM
6

Very few men are sincerely asking for pity dates; they merely point out how society’s common assumptions about rejected men often fail to explicitly include factors beyond their control which come into play before a swipe or interaction occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:36 PM
7

This is inherently a looks post
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:34 PM
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I disagree. If you don’t have the discipline to read dry posts then simply keep scrolling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:34 PM
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Yeah, that’s an issue. People should be able to use AI to make stronger posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:15 PM
1

That ideal (for some men) doesn’t invalidate what most men desire as a compromise on that - commitment from a woman who they sincerely desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:37 PM
1

It’s not that complicated: they want women to figure out where the intersection of what they desire and who they can get commitment from rests - without becoming slurs, then date with intent to marry, and choose a man based on long term compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:00 PM
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Their issue is RP people being more readily able to counter those who oppose them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:29 PM
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Who cares? Not me. I would rather it be more easily understood
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:37 AM
7

The answer to your question is that some men don’t have to improve to get the results that the unsuccessful men seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:04 AM
1

It doesn’t blend in with normal writing because normal writing on Reddit is an abomination to the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:12 PM
2

Yes, I am grateful for being allowed to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:04 PM
5

The social treatment that abusers get is often better than how sexually unsuccessful men are treated, and that’s condemnable as hypocritical and insufficiently forthcoming when the people doling out this disparate treatment claim to have standards of behavior for men, and claim that sexually unsuccessful men’s issue is personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:01 PM
0

All of the men they complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:57 PM
5

The fact is there are tons of these women, and if most men want to have a partner, that’s who many of them are left with, versus being alone for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:06 PM
1

That doesn’t preclude the availability of the choice to better inform oneself than most young women in particular seem to be willing to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:04 PM
2

We’ve had the internet and social media for decades now… young women need to learn, just like they learn not to jump off a bridge without needing to try it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:57 PM
12

It’s more like, if personality matters so much, why wouldn’t she date me if she would tolerate a literal abuser…? Lol These guys are treated poorly for having anything to say about their lack of success, and to top it all off, they are made out as being worse than abusers and criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:54 PM
1

This is the correct automod people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:06 PM
5

That’s an astute point. I like to see consistency in each person’s views
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:05 PM
1

It’s not that it’s unfair, it’s that women are ungrateful. Given the consternation about women’s privileges and rights, it would only be commensurate for them to at least be grateful when they aren’t infringed. It’s like they take it for granted until men pipe up about how their lives suck now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:02 PM
14

No, they don’t need to ask themselves that question. The genesis of this whole debate is women downplaying the extent to which some women tolerate behavior which they explicitly verbalize having standards against, and the prevalence of this compromise among women. If they could all get on the same page and admit it like you did, you wouldn’t see nearly the same prevalence of men pointing it out. So yes, personality matters, but not as much as women pretend it does, and not for as many people as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:55 PM
6

People settle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:31 AM
1

The concept of the friend zone isn’t predicated on the assumption that attraction is entirely built by pressing the right buttons; it merely acknowledges that one can’t merely exist and get laid, so yes one’s inputs matter. It also not treating friendship as a punishment; it merely acknowledges that when a person who desires more than friendship with their friend realizes that their friend only wants friendship, it can be a let down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:53 PM
5

It’s a matter of prevalence. You’re likely in the minority of men on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:49 PM
5

There’s an aversion to sexuality driving men’s behavior, even though sexuality largely drives human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:38 PM
5

I disagree; there’s tons of diversity of opinion on this sub. It’s just shocking to most people to see men speaking up and not being banned, because mainstream internet culture has thoroughly demonized these men as though they are Elliot reincarnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:36 PM
3

Six months of searching for a date that leads to a second date is a ridiculous outcome for someone who is actively looking for that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:22 PM
9

No, because he’s still better off than men who 👀 worse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:30 PM
0

It should be easier than that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:30 PM
0

It’s because women have more leverage socially and in romantic relationships, as well as men’s implicit greater ability to physically harm women. But instead of women just owning it and saying “because we can” or “because we’re afraid of men” they will criticize you for noticing or caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:45 PM
0

The point is to ensure that people are making choices with that reality in mind, not trying to deny how important it is just because they found someone they like otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:16 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:43 PM
0

Then I wouldn’t be so defensive if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:40 PM
0

Nothing that I said is wrong, though, you’re just saying that other things matter, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:40 PM
2

Yeah, it’s called lamenting that you can’t have something. It’s normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:36 PM
0

…and some of those positions that give you the best angle are affected by size.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:35 PM
3

The positions you like are also in porn lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:35 PM
1

A universe in which you can ignore them or argue against them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:34 PM
6

It got banned because society relies on men contributing to society more than the bare minimum, and MGTOW undermined that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:36 PM
0

That’s a misleading simplification of the matter. It’s my belief that, once fully informed and experienced, most women would come to strongly prefer a larger than average penis, which has significant ramifications on how women choose partners. I would hope that a woman who says “size does not matter” (full stop) would see an undeniable set of examples which prove that it matters, and reconsider their view, despite how soul crushing it would be for most women who are dating/married men with an av…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:32 PM
2

Why? If this is such an inherently justified circumstance for men, based on women’s prerogative, then the fallout ought to be accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:29 PM
-2

It’s not about helping couples, it’s about showing specific examples of how and why it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:27 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:03 PM
3

If you’re big on that, you’re choosing to be fooled every single time someone claims plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:03 PM
3

Women need to understand that for many men, it’s not worth putting in extra effort compared to the more inherently desirable men. And before you call this a bad attitude, etc. first openly condemn the women who accept poor treatment from more desirable men, despite them claiming to have authentic standards for better treatment, which they cite as justification of sexually unsuccessful men’s failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:44 PM
1

Are we allowed to post np links to Reddit porn posts or links to porn videos? I want to show examples of how penis size matters to facilitate certain positions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:43 PM
-3

I think people pretend to care about friendships way more than they actually do. If it weren’t for the prospect of finding a sex partner, most people wouldn’t do much of anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:15 PM
1

I didn’t read the comments. I just know that she has a poor understanding of female anatomy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:12 PM
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“Nice Girls” are just women who landed on a small dick when the music stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:12 PM
1

There’s no such thing as merit. You get what you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:08 PM
-1

Thoughts? LMAO https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZ0MQTgJbxq Penis size matters, she is just coming to terms with her reality really hard
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:44 PM
6

If this were a woman, men would be told it’s somehow their fault. With men? Who cares about men, it’s time to shame them for caring about their looks!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:42 PM
5

…the way the women who they sincerely prefer respond to them, told them they are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:41 PM
1

An eye opening moment for me growing up was realizing that even the most talented pro sports stars can be low status on the dating market; they are essentially BB
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:40 PM
2

They aren’t bad at communication, they just know it reveals how much they care, thereby lowering their leverage, so they avoid it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:38 PM
1

I didn’t ask you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:27 PM
2

No, this is just attributing women’s choices to their preferred outcome, which is a fallacy. Most women can’t find a man who embodies everything they prefer in a partner, so they settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:24 PM
-9

So you’re saying that OP is projecting? They are being attacked personally by your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:20 PM
1

Having kids is hard on women, but even those who know they will not have any complain and benefit from that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:19 PM
5

It’s not even about the hate, it’s simply hypocrisy to allow that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 10:17 PM
1

I would rather not bust ass and still have money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:52 PM
2

Give me a break, women who don’t even want kids bitch about how hard it is on women, so if we’re going to let that slide, then we’re counting the draft laws
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:51 PM
2

Thanks for your insightful take
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:51 PM
2

No, it’s about time that people stop claiming that weird terminology = weird idea
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:50 PM
1

You can’t make up for lack of raw size
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:08 PM
1

That’s not good enough for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:07 PM
0

It has to be done very carefully and you need to watch which jurisdiction you’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:53 PM
5

They essentially move the goalposts on men. You aren’t successful? Ok, well it must be X? Oh, I was wrong and it’s not X? Then it must be Y. Etc. There doesn’t exist a scenario in which women can concede that a man is hitting the mark in every area other than the ones he can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:51 PM
1

Some things aren’t able to be proven, and that’s ok. We can still debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:48 PM
6

I understand. I’m not calling for changing anything, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:54 PM
11

It is bad for most men. They need to work longer hours, in worse conditions, for less pay than they would have if women largely remained outside of the workforce. Then, for all their effort, they get to be less desirable to women than their grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:23 PM
4

It’s subconsciously both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:21 PM
5

It’s a matter of emphasis. Yes, they get dates…with whom? After how much deviation from their authentic lifestyle preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:19 PM
1

I’m not your bro, person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:49 AM
11

It’s not that women should settle; they just need to stop blaming men for their lack of success - women’s preferences are the limiting factor here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:46 AM
2

What you’re describing is personality…yes, some people flip a switch because they aren’t authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:43 AM
2

This comment has a weird defensive energy to it, as though the status quo must be correct at all costs. God forbid we look at how women’s selection of men isn’t virtuous. Men stop trying because it’s the logical thing to do, if they see men who don’t need to try, succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:41 AM
11

They will never be able to concede that lesser desirable men are simply paying the price for women’s freedom. It’s ok not to be attracted to guys, but it’s wrong to gaslight them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:39 AM
7

We are doomed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:38 AM
7

A smart man knows that you can’t just brute force activate your monkey brain in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:34 AM
2

If I swipe left on someone in an app, it’s for a reason. If someone swipes left on me in an app, it’s for a reason. I will obviously have more information after meeting them, but that doesn’t negate the reasons why either of us swiped left on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:12 PM
3

No. I know what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:37 PM
2

I agree, but to be consistent, society ought to be more accepting of the men who are paying the price for this transition, expressing their discontent. It’s not their fault; their fathers and grandfathers would likely not have reproduced under today’s conditions. This should be the expected outcome, and we shouldn’t treat sexually unsuccessful men as though they did something wrong for not wanting to beat their heads against a wall persisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:36 PM
2

I agree, but to be consistent, society ought to be more accepting of the men who are paying the price for this transition expressing their discontent. It’s not their fault; their fathers and grandfathers would likely not have reproduced under today’s conditions. This should be the expected outcome, and we shouldn’t treat sexually unsuccessful men as though they did something wrong for not wanting to beat their heads against a wall persisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:36 PM
2

👀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:33 PM
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The clitoris extends within the woman, cradling the vaginal canal, which can be stimulated with girth. Stimulation of the vestibular bulbs is done with girth, too. Stimulation of the anterior and posterior fornices (behind and in front of the cervix) with length stimulates the vagus nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:56 PM
0

People have very poor media analysis skills, so I think you’re out of luck on this sub if you’re hoping to get them to see how this movie is propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:17 PM
1

It’s more common now than ever due to men’s hormonal health being under constant assault from our environment, food, and technology - as well as women being more encouraged by our culture than ever to embrace their libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:40 AM
1

Yeah. That’s kind of how inserting an object into a sensory muscle pocket works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:38 AM
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Technology and social norms mediate how people act on their evo psych impulses
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:37 AM
1

It requires a penis with adequate volume
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:12 AM
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How evo psych manifests in today’s market is different than how it was even 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:27 AM
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Current gen grew up in today’s market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:19 AM
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Buddy, do you ever post a parent comment? Or are you a professional prick?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:18 AM
1

Women subconsciously prefer when the man pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:17 AM
5

It’s actually more relevant now than what older people grew up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:16 AM
1

Perfect example of how AI generated writing can still legitimately reflect one’s authentic thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:15 AM
1

I tend to agree with your approach, but men often aren’t extended that level of consideration; they are blamed full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 AM
0

Tell that to every woman who begged me to CnC her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:29 PM
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She can still get laid easily by men who she would consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:23 PM
0

Let me put it this way: feminists generally don’t have an issue with condemning the person doing bad things when it’s a man…they don’t feel compelled to cushion it by first acknowledging how that man may have arrived at those choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:04 PM
1

You said that I believe something that I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:57 PM
1

No, that’s incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:52 PM
1

The first one is holding them accountable for their own thoughts and speech, the second one is essentially blaming people other than the woman herself for how she thought and spoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:40 PM
1

Holding them accountable would sound like, “YOU are wrong for thinking that way/saying those things.” not “You seem to have internalized misogyny, which is something that you were conditioned to exhibit.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:37 PM
2

The women criticizing them are supposedly “wrong”, but to attribute that to “the patriarchy” brainwashing them to think that way is dodging accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:34 PM
3

No, it’s not holding them accountable to say, “You’ve been brainwashed by ‘the patriarchy’ to think that way” (internalized misogyny)…that’s letting them off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:33 PM
2

Q4Feminists: is there anything that you hold intelligent, educated, liberated, autonomous women accountable for? For example, I’ve been told that even when women do things “wrong” like criticizing other women for how they look or how they behave promiscuously, that’s not their fault, it’s merely “internalized misogyny”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:17 PM
0

I can’t post links to larger than average dildos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:34 PM
0

Yes. You can find it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:32 PM
1

No, I agree with the approach, I don’t trust you to execute it in a valid way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:07 PM
1

I need you to possess the ability to shut the fuck up and give up on having the last word when it’s been made perfectly clear that we irreconcilably disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:02 PM
1

I disagree with the validity of your execution of that methodology
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:01 PM
0

No, I didn’t feel it necessary to mention my personal experience, but thank you for personally attacking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:43 PM
-1

It’s called ANATOMY, reading, and talking to women who have felt the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:41 PM
1

So…N count matters to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:40 PM
1

I disagree with the validity of your studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:38 PM
2

You lucked out with good sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:37 PM
0

…the posterior fornix and the anterior fornix, which unlike external stimulation of the clitoris, stimulates the vagus nerve, providing significantly more impactful orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:35 PM
1

Yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:28 PM
0

Most men are mediocre in bed because their penis can barely get halfway to the fornices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:28 PM
2

The more partners a woman has, the less likely the average man will be able to be her best. If you’re even one of just 5 total, that’s still only a 20% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:26 PM
0

So even if N count does not matter, it matters if it’s 2,000?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:25 PM
2

It’s suppose to give the average man a chance of being a woman’s best by the time she marries someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:18 PM
0

There’s no such thing as an outrageous number if N count does not matter to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:17 PM
1

.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:16 PM
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They heavily emphasize that unsuccessful men’s issue is merely attitude and personality, which is obviously not true, as you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:15 PM
0

If you met someone on a first date and N count came up and they told you it’s 2,000…you would or would not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:14 PM
1

Eh. I disagree because many people who care have cited things like pair bonding issues, how one values sex, how one socializes, etc. That doesn’t preclude them from also just caring to be the woman’s only partner, but the point is that’s not the only reason for enough people who care, to render the point of person who I was replying to invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:11 PM
-3

It’s still about N count, though. Do you really think that people who have a preference or standard for a relatively low N count for prospective partners is exclusively about the number? No, it has also always been a proxy for anything and everything that correlates with N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:45 AM
5

He said it’s brutal, not unachievable. Also, keep in mind, he’s not seeking anything different than others - he’s just unestablished in the new city. It’s notably easier for women and those who are more local to navigate these scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:27 AM
9

They aren’t going to admit that you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:18 AM
1

Yes, people should use precise language. To say that N count doesn’t matter is not some casual statement, like “I’ll have whatever for lunch” in the context of deciding which restaurant to go to. If you say that N count doesn’t matter to you, but it actually does, that’s just poor communication. The only other people who responded to my comment insisted that even 2,000 people would not be too many for their partner’s N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:39 AM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:58 AM
-1

They are getting the opportunity to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:58 AM
1

That’s not accurate. I’m asking them a question. They can say, *”No, that’s too many people, and I should rephrase my stance of ‘N count does not matter’ the next time I weigh in on this subject.”*
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:57 AM
1

I’m not calling for them to grovel, I’m calling for them to stop calling non-bigotry, bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:25 PM
1

If you wish to see less bigotry against women, this is precisely the worst way to go about achieving that. Men who make caveated statements ought to be acknowledged as having done so, because if you treat it like overt bigotry, that’s what you’re going to start seeing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:06 PM
-1

How is what I said bigoted? Men do the same thing, we are just talking about women in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:58 PM
0

Not all women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:54 PM
1

We’re not supposed to acknowledge this, but friend groups tend to form around similar levels of attractiveness, just as couples do, because the historical function of social groups is to find sex and romantic partners, even if only through friends of friends. If a woman has the chance to rub shoulders with particularly desirable men, they are going to lean toward doing so, even if that means ditching lesser desirable male friends who wouldn’t jive with that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:28 PM
1

It’s impossible to prove. We are here to argue our differences of perspective and best guesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:33 PM
1

Then it’s not a rule lol that’s all we’re pointing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:50 PM
2

No, women need to get over the fact that parity has been reached at the junctures they are being unduly advantaged now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:46 PM
-10

Sterilization, bio father or government pay for the child, and restitution for the defrauded man’s money and emotional distress, mother serves prison time equal to the time the man was defrauded once the children turn 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:27 PM
5

That’s only because when they cite real life, they are told to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:24 PM
0

It shouldn’t matter. Women claim that being a good person is mandatory for sex and relationships. All rejected men have to do to point them out as being wrong is one asshole getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:11 PM
2

It’s called a hypothetical scenario. We are controlling for the variable of gender, that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:09 PM
2

…they get preferential treatment in education, training, hiring, and promotions until they voluntarily take months at a time off for their personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:07 PM
1

Happy Independence Day to all those who celebrate. Feel free to absolutely roast our country without mercy…this is PPD so we should all have thick skin Also we’re American and we’re used to actual things going wrong here, not just wildfires and carrot mandates
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:06 PM
-3

My point is we don’t need to get granular when it’s so clearly women who have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:54 PM
0

Q4 those who think N count doesn’t matter: It wouldn’t matter to you if it were revealed to you that your partner had sex with 2,000 different people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:53 PM
0

Uh, yes, because women need handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:52 PM
5

How convenient…it’s *precisely* as difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:51 PM
6

It’s all else being equal, not a comparison of extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:51 PM
0

You’re making it seem like each individual is best positioned to understand themselves, which isn’t true except for the most insightful individuals. Men get to observe women without being under the effects of women’s own ego protective shield from their subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:43 PM
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Safe guy = beta bux But yes, basically society as we know it is a lie built on the past subjugation of women We are literally finding out why it was built that way as we speak
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:08 AM
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.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:05 AM
-5

Women are too weak to be men in those regards. They are covert operators. You know, mean girls, etc. it’s about social leverage and power moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:03 AM
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Size is observable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:57 AM
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Are we allowed to post links to porn or np links to Reddit porn? I want to show examples of how penis size matters to accommodate various positions/techniques and body types
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:08 AM
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How about only have sex with the man you’ve discussed having sex and thereby possibly creating another human being with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:43 AM
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People serve less time for murder than other crimes every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:43 AM
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Self preservation, knowing that people are less likely to help me because I’m a man, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:18 AM
1

So you disagree with OP, too? Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:46 AM
2

They actually took a lie detector test and swore under oath in a deposition that I taught them how to cum on cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:32 AM
1

Enough women are not experts on themselves to render OP’s post incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:26 AM
2

Again, it doesn’t matter if you avoid all people like me, that specific reply to me was a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:03 AM
1

My point is, women never say, “I realized that I wasn’t particularly attracted to him; I just wanted to settle down and have kids.” they will feel that way, then find other things to cite as the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:01 AM
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No, you replied directly to me by saying “And we know who to avoid all together. Thank *you* for that.” You can only avoid those who express my opinion, which you thanked me individually for, so that means you were attacking me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:00 AM
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Well in the context of this reply chain, you’re referring to me. That’s irrelevant to the topic at hand. You’re just attacking me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:54 PM
-1

And yet, most women who get married have their father walk them down the aisle…they don’t really care, they just selectively shame men they disagree with to fan the flames of intrasexual competition among women. They can’t allow men to choose younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:53 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:51 PM
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You’re drawing the target around where the arrow landed, though. Sure, I would be miffed, but guess what? It’s my responsibility and nobody else’s to save me. I would rather be on my own in that scenario than to be labeled an a hole for not saving others randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:23 PM
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So you would always intervene, even if a man was being harmed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:23 PM
2

It’s called liking sex and having freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:22 PM
-2

Yes, to me it’s hypocritical to oppose purity balls, etc. while vehemently opposing adults dating each other or having sex, based on their ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:21 PM
1

No, because there is always something significantly more important to worry about, but that doesn’t stop them from dunking on almost any other man in such a scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:20 PM
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Why should they notice, care, or intervene?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:19 PM
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Women can’t accept that there are trade offs in life. To them, any inconvenience that correlates with them doing whatever they want, is an infringement on their freedom, not just…adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:18 PM
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I’ve taught women older than me how to orgasm from penetration…they tend not to know as much as they let on. Quite honestly, women are psychologically incentivized not to be hyper aware of their inner workings; they need to believe that the laundry is in fact grounds for divorce, not that they married the wrong person lol Also, re: dating apps - there’s only approximately a 7 percentage point gap between the portion of men and women who have used dating apps. Women’s snapshot significantly lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:15 PM
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Tell that to the people who do their damnedest to set traps for people. Like yeah, let’s just make sweeping rule changes based on us not wanting to see people’s opinions we disagree with, and hope these guys aren’t here the two days it’s made clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:14 PM
3

It’s largely an American thing, I’m afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:12 PM
1

Something being “a skill” does not inherently justify its use as a metric. What should instead be acknowledged is, “It’s our prerogative to use X skill as a metric”. Just own it. Networking being a skill doesn’t justify a hiring manager refusing to equally consider candidates who they haven’t met before. Raising awareness of your contribution to a workplace being a skill doesn’t justify your boss failing to understand how every employee who reports directly to them contributes to the workplace. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:01 PM
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How do I explain this…they want something so bad that they can’t get, and they are gaslit to believe it’s not important, even though plenty of people have it and enjoy it, that it warrants voicing their dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:46 PM
1

Adult bullying more closely resembles mean girl behavior like exclusion and lack of non-verbal respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:07 PM
1

I don’t think it’s a disorder to expect basic acknowledgement of how it is not in fact worth it to everyone to bust ass just for the chance to barely get some semblance of what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:14 PM
2

Or it could be that women who respond to dissatisfied sexless men by pretending that sex is just a cherry on top of life…go on to selectively make sex out to be the most important thing ever, to the point they march in the streets if they can’t have sex without the risk of being responsible for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:01 PM
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They are lamenting how, as I already explained, they are not one of the people who don’t need to try harder to get what they want. They can’t even get what they want when they try harder, they get some semblance of what they want. So they aren’t saying “Wahhh, it’s impossible for me” they are saying, “Damn, look at all of these people who just got to live life and get what they want”. There isn’t a solution for them. They are complaining about the immutable realities they face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:58 PM
2

It’s reasonable for people not want to put in more effort than him if they have to know the entire time that they are compensating for their lack of chad-ness
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:13 PM
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Why do you think he stopped going outside? Probably incredibly more negative feedback loops than his peers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:11 PM
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The point is, women should consider how their complaints about men being so horrible should fall on deaf ears if they acknowledge how they would rather be with a rapist than a boring or weak man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:26 PM
1

These groups are infiltrated, is my point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:58 AM
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I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:12 PM
1

Who ever claimed that it would?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:53 PM
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What you described is how it’s supposed to work. Women don’t want men who other women reject. It’s the same reason why men are the ones who are made to initiate everything: Women want to see if you demonstrate confidence and other indicators of social proof. They want to see if you pick up on signals and vibes…it’s to weed out abnormal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:53 PM
1

Yeah…you can thank women for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:25 PM
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It’s usually not just a skincare routine, and I tend to agree with the user above who reserves use of the term for more extreme things like limb lengthening, but I get your point. I agree that it’s dumb sounding, and I don’t think it’s organic. These groups of individuals are steered in directions that undermine the mainstream acceptance of their beliefs and choices. This is done to marginalize dissatisfied men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:35 PM
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If we don’t use weird names for things, society won’t be able to mock men as easily. You need to understand that anything against the status quo, like RP, will be wholly captured and molded into something that cannot succeed at becoming acceptable to the status quo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:22 PM
4

Women’s preferences are extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:21 PM
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The emphasis on a mocking, homoerotic framing of men’s choices that women don’t like is played out…do better
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:20 PM
0

And then that coldness from a man toward women isn’t tolerated to be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:17 PM
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This exemplifies the lack of empathy for men. This is why they don’t open up. People truly do not care about what men care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:16 PM
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That’s a post hoc rationalization for her inability to come to terms with the fact that she couldn’t get a husband who she preferred sexually. Women who are actually turned on by their partner don’t end up in a dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:24 AM
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But since so much rides on men being a larger threat to women (all of the special considerations and protections for women), we must be consistent here and understand that bad woman =/= bad man level of badness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:16 PM
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I’m glad that someone is bringing this here. I feel like people tend to be in denial of anything which happens subconsciously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:12 PM
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Women who cease to strongly bond with men through sex have become less sensitive to the oxytocin which is released with sex and orgasm with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:11 PM
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Most marriages are not happy and sex filled to the man’s liking, and it’s usually a marked departure from how she treated him when he had yet to commit to helping her fulfill her life long ambition of having children and a wedding
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:31 PM
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That only strengthens my argument because if women are risking their lives for sex and relationships, they don’t want to risk that for mediocre sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:29 PM
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Technically not, but refusing to date someone who earns less than you (which many women do, particularly as they get higher up the income ladder) is indicative of caring more about money and status than the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:35 PM
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If they need the man to earn as much as them, then they don’t like the man enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:00 PM
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Happy Day
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:49 PM
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Probably because they have a notable gap between who they like in their 20’s compared to who they settle for, combined with their common choice not to have sex with their husbands as much, and to divorce them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:36 PM
1

I think you’re trying to police my protected participation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:35 PM
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Because nothing precludes them from being correct that women settle harder than men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:33 PM
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The fact that they refuse to date men who earn significantly less than them is proof enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:16 PM
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Your assertion that these women aren’t settling is also unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:15 PM
1

No, how it’s mostly unreasonable to expect men to be as good as you all seem to believe is feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:08 PM
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It’s supposed to prove that you don’t like acknowledging this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:07 PM
1

This is PPD…maybe go to a Canadian sub if you don’t want anything critical to be said about it. You will notice that I won’t complain about people being critical of the US this weekend. Do you know why? Because patriotism is nonsensical and I have accepted how messed up this country is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:04 PM
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lol Canada is most certainly not free. You all weren’t even allowed to leave the country for years if you chose not to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:36 PM
0

Yeah, we disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:35 PM
2

I’ve gone through the groups with a female friend before. I didn’t take screenshots lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:34 PM
1

This would be plague rat shaming material a mere few years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:30 PM
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Humble brag
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:29 PM
2

lol all that means is size matters. Yes, there is a small portion of men who are too thick or too long, but the overwhelming majority of men still have a penile volume that’s suboptimal for most women’s pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:28 PM
2

What do we do? Freeze bank accounts of donors to peaceful protests or celebrate going from a World Economic Forum young world leader as Prime Minister to a corrupt banker?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:27 PM
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It’s mostly a thing among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:26 PM
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The point of the question is to show that you would likely be the same as other men if you were born as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:24 PM
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Well as long as you haven’t, it must not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:02 PM
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I’ve seen otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:02 PM
-2

I was just asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:01 AM
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Which app or site was it on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:33 AM
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What about penis size or overall assessment of his sexual performance? Edit: Downvoting a question? -9 what a joke people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:33 AM
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Those familiar with what many women read wouldn’t even care to ask lol, they are depraved as any given human
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:05 AM
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No, I don’t want to revoke women’s freedom. Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:38 PM
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It’s better than gaslighting, is all I meant by calling the gaslighting a half baked attempt. When I say women are benefitting, it’s not merely about the work men do. It’s about those men working etc. despite the lack of a primary benefit of sex and relationships with women. Women benefit by lesser desirable men not harming and raping them more often, and not organizing around revoking women’s freedom to a greater extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:09 PM
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Ok well most undesirable men are being gaslit in some half baked attempt to avert their revolt, even if on an individual level, so their participation in society whatsoever in a positive way deserves to be acknowledged as a miserable existence for women’s benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:45 PM
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Yes, that is in fact what acknowledgement without any further specified requests means. It’s like thanking a veteran or a civil servant; they are doing something that someone has to do, for this society to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:39 PM
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You’re attributing it to their life experiences (men have it better than women), not their innate biology
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:38 PM
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lol why? Too much proof that looks matter and that women acknowledge it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:37 PM
2

So women with hip dips have narrower hips?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:37 PM
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It doesn’t come across as too tryhard? It’s performatively chill up top; it’s styled to look messy and him sitting there for half an hour while someone styled it then paying them $30-$100 for it seems femme “Hey just touch up that spot in the back I need it to look like my hair grows faster at each point up my neck” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:33 PM
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I would agree with you as long as rich men in one’s native country weren’t allowed to essentially buy relationships and sex, but that will never happen. If women in the US flock to wealthy men, then men in the US get to incentivize foreign women to flock to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:30 PM
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No, they eat more sushi (parasites), eat more chocolate and wear more makeup (heavy metals), and are generally more neurotic (stress)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:29 PM
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You’re making assumptions about my beliefs. Nothing that I said necessitates that I oppose women’s freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:25 PM
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Yes. At least 5 other people understood and upvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:57 PM
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Perhaps this post isn’t for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:08 PM
1

I don’t think you understand what Hollywood is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:06 PM
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We’re not in that thread; we’re supposed to pretend that doesn’t matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:22 PM
1

Who said that he didn’t? Also, that’s simply not true for many men - they lived a normal life and it just worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:20 PM
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The BP user was not acknowledging how “jumping in” and “practice” require cooperation from women. Overall BP’s tone is one of radical, delusional belief in an internal locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:08 PM
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That shouldn’t have any bearing on the case. You’re celebrating bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:05 PM
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It’s not just about data, it’s about intervention with the “appropriate” narrative or at the very least mockery of those who oppose it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:21 AM
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How many fed bots do you think are on here? They have a vested interest in keeping tabs on potentially volatile men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:16 AM
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The scene outside of the diner in which DiNero and Wizard struggle to talk about loneliness is still relevant today
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:13 AM
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You have to pretend to care if you want to pretend to be cultured. You see, it’s not the most popular sport because it’s cheap for poor people to play, that’s totally a coincidence. 90 minutes without scoring is fun, you see
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:03 AM
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“Heya, Chad here, u up?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:02 AM
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They should. Why would you want disenfranchised men in the prime of their sex drive to be stressed from working for nothing worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:01 AM
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That’s not most men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:00 AM
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Have you tried gaslighting yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:59 AM
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Probably the movies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:59 AM
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Canada was clearly cooked the moment it froze the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:58 AM
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Their faces are hot though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:40 AM
3

I’m not saying that anything should change, just that it’s acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:39 AM
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Yes, it is. Most people can only afford to live where they do because they split expenses with a partner. Add up those savings from 18-30 and you have yourself a down payment on a home. That’s before we even consider the effect it has on men’s self esteem and motivation. It’s unreasonable to continue to expect these men to trudge through all of the hard parts of life without the bright spots that make it worth living for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:53 AM
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It’s transparently meant to further marginalize men who are already rejected by most women Add in the Bugonia guy working for Amazon, the prison guard in Adolescence, etc. It’s just meant to make people think “blue collar/not popular = dangerous” which preemptively tries to justify their rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:49 AM
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The need to be sassy strikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:48 AM
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No, it’s just more fear mongering. Society needs to demonize lonely men because if their dissatisfaction is viewed as legitimate, we might just need to care about them, and acknowledge how they are paying a very real price to facilitate women’s historically newfound freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:38 AM
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Yes, it is. Clinical depression is just society’s way to make a systemic issue a personal issue. If men can’t blame society, then society gets to pretend that men are somehow faulty for not being happy with shit lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:43 PM
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If looks weren’t the most important factor, which you are arguing, then disfigured people shouldn’t face notable struggles on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:31 PM
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…literally try getting matches on apps with an acid attacked burn victim face…it’s the most important factor
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:24 PM
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Read the title again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:13 PM
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So you didn’t address OP’s point: women are running an aggressive anti-youth campaign
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:11 PM
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I understand. My point was merely that one wouldn’t need to work off these extra calories. The person eating the chicken and rice meal or an equivalent 3x per day already has plenty of calories to sustain themselves and to burn off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:51 PM
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I agree. People are very poorly educated about how meaningful most markers of beauty are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:48 PM
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The comment you replied to is hyperbole. “Looks aren’t everything” is meaningless. It downplays how immensely important looks are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:39 PM
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First off I want to introduce you to PARAGRAPHS
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:34 PM
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You need to accept that people have different values than you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:29 PM
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My point is, who cares if it’s an eating disorder if following it will make you healthier than the overwhelming majority of people (who eat like utter dogshit)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:40 PM
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It’s ok, I’m sure he’ll get away with it like Ronaldo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:37 PM
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Most people who do not have an eating disorder, are objectively less healthy than someone eating chicken and rice without seasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:34 PM
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What’s healthier: this “eating disorder” or the standard American diet? Lol like get real, someone eating chicken and rice will be better off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:22 PM
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<image> What a coincidence that the one on the right was overlooked Conjoined mogging 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:01 PM
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It’s not an eating disorder to eat plain food, you just want to pathologize people who don’t want to exercise even more than they already have to It’s 3 minutes per day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:59 PM
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10 calories x 3 meals = 30 calories per day = 10,950 calories per year = 514,650 calories from age 18-65 = 858 hours of jogging (18 extra hours of jogging per year just for extra flavor)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:56 PM
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That’s not a disorder. Needing food to be hyper palatable is a disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:46 PM
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Who said NEETs don’t have their own money?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:45 PM
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Women complaining about not getting to enjoy a lifestyle which was only extended to them due to dating a man…after they stop dating the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:15 PM
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For example, their facial feature proportions, shape, and spacing, not their hair or facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:07 PM
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…you can tell what their immutable characteristics are from a mugshot. What do you mean by “it’s over” for the man on the left?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:05 PM
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So you think your rate of pay would be just as low if the labor pool was about half as saturated?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:42 PM
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Men do what women incentivize them with sex to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:41 PM
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It’s related to this post because it’s an alternative view to what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:33 PM
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I disagree. This movie is pure anti-male propaganda, just like Bugonia. They had to make it seem like there “was something there” between them, because just like Don’t Worry Darling, they need the bad guy to have a realistic shot at love. They can’t show an actual inc who had no hope. That would put too many viewers on their side, at least emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:31 PM
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Or, women are too sensitive and can’t handle being treated like a man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:26 PM
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To me, not successfully hiding that you’re having sex with or dating a coworker should be a fireable offense. You can’t put every man in a fireable position if he so much as looks at a woman the wrong way, then turn around and excuse that kind inherently taunting dynamic Also, if someone could report you to HR for doing something, that thing shouldn’t be allowed by anyone No hugs, touching, flirting, etc. this is a workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:49 PM
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<image> Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:27 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/7jF7mrlGuO
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:27 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/5lmkjd57z7ah1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=474037d76eded4300792a5f8053fe89d16102a95 You are being manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:59 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/87eln595z7ah1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27f40e0f82c3a43c80538b50183048aff4661701 You are being manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:58 PM
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It’s all about CONTROL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:57 PM
0

Fine as in “he’s so fine” or like, they merely aren’t hideous? Also the question was whether or not their immutable characteristics are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:42 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/hy1jr7nan7ah1.jpeg?width=468&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=339287b295acce70c524af8272031174e7279c02 Or this fella?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:52 AM
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<image> How about these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:49 AM
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<image> Do you think their immutable characteristics are attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:49 AM
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Basically, adults and especially those with degrees - who are both respected for their intellect and entrusted with gatekept responsibilities, should have to take full responsibility for their choices instead of always chalking them up to a sincere mistake…they are knowledgeable enough to understand risks and tradeoffs, they only whine about it or pretend as though they couldn’t have possibly known better, after it didn’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:19 PM
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Can we explore the bounds of insulting what someone wrote vs insulting the person? There are several users who seem to have perfected the art of dodging accountability to this rule. Like ok, you don’t agree with the person, that’s ok. You explain why, that’s ok. But they will literally say things like, “This reads like the dumbest POS ever wrote it, they are probably a virgin, etc” and I just don’t see how that’s not a personal insult. “This is a dumb take common among losers” “This is such an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:07 PM
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And? Explain how that’s relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:04 PM
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Can we explore the bounds of insulting what someone wrote vs insulting the person? There are several users who seem to have perfected the art of dodging accountability to this rule. Like ok, you don’t agree with the person, that’s ok. You explain why, that’s ok. But they will literally say things like, “This reads like the dumbest POS ever wrote it, they are probably a virgin, etc” and o just don’t see how that’s not a personal insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:01 PM
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How old were they and would most men want to have sex with these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:59 PM
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We disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:56 PM
2

No, men don’t act like there’s nobody out there worth dating; they complain about not getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:55 PM
1

Do you always limit your contributions to your personal beliefs? Or do you venture to speak to what you’ve learned of other people doing, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:53 PM
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Guys bitch about not getting any play at all, not about a lack of top options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:52 PM
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It means you don’t get respect in society just for having a degree and a “real” job; prove yourself to not be some 20 something who freely makes poor personal choices if you want that. No more of this “I’m just living my best life” free for all attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:50 PM
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It would look like holding them to the same standards of competence outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:29 PM
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Based on the respect they get in society for being trustworthy and competent adults. It’s objectively incongruent to treat these young professional adults like this if they are still abject fuck ups outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:27 PM
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I think they ought to do better if they are supposedly deserving of a well paying job and societal respect explicitly because of their intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:25 PM
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That’s just saying someone isn’t worthy of a relationship. That’s not a plea for the universe to supply them with well paid women to lead them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:25 PM
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Well any time I try to explain why someone is unattractive, the detractors of men’s critiques are too uneducated for the terminology
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:22 PM
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Nah if a woman needs you to have tattoos you’re not close enough to her preference for it to be worth dating her anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:21 PM
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I didn’t imply that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:20 PM
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Those men struggle romantically. These women have options, they just can’t keep the ones they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:18 PM
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I know, but what I said is still true. You cut these well paid young adults too much slack. They actually like to acknowledge how they’re making mistakes as they choose to make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:17 PM
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This doesn’t address the OP’s questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:15 PM
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It’s not a consistent standard, though. That’s important to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:15 PM
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He’s not offended by you posting it; he’s highlighting how it’s insufficient as a response to the post and you’re denying how it is in fact meant as a blueprint for the skills which someone should develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:13 PM
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Hmm, it seems like most women’s bar is greater than that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:09 PM
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The difference is men don’t bitch 24/7 about where have the good women gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:08 PM
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If you’re smart enough to be a literal philosophy and ethics major, you’re smart enough to not be hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:07 PM
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Only when they deem those men to not be good enough to hold out for casual
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:14 AM
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Have you considered that they weren’t always like that, and that their life experiences made it clear to them that in their opinion, it wasn’t worth living any other way? This is their perspective, since I’ve asked people like this about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:27 AM
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I agree with you, and I should have been more specific by explaining that regardless of the biological underpinnings, the culture that one grows up within influences the expression of those underpinnings, which includes how willing a man is to temper his standards in the sex/dating realm (only wanting casual or considering romantic relationships as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:23 AM
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It was a description of what happened in the labor market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:12 AM
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Perhaps that’s because your framework ignores the core reason they aren’t hot sh. It’s not fixable for most men. Therefore, their reaction makes more sense than you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:17 AM
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I wasn’t trying to convince you; I was just explaining how we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:15 AM
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It’s not jealousy, it’s righteous indignation at how women’s freedom was predicated on principles which have been abandoned the moment it came time to offer that benefit to men. See higher education and women’s affinity for dating up even when they themselves can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:04 AM
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Ok, we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:03 AM
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Ok, well unfortunately that’s the best way available to society to stop men from only wanting casual sex. I agree that it may fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:02 AM
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I disagree. The root of the issue is women get to have their cake and eat it too. That’s not jealousy, that’s calling out how women’s freedom was built upon grievances that are ever eroding, so now they take men’s jobs, marry up, and raise the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:42 AM
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Ok, and I’m saying that won’t happen and men will lie to have sex if they see better men having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:32 AM
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So in your opinion, the threat of male political organization and violence does not pose a threat to women’s freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:31 AM
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Women are upset that men lie to get sex because they aren’t desirable enough for casual sex. My main point was that’s to be expected, even though I’m against it. Society can’t have a two tier system in which only some men get casual, while expecting the second tier men not to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:07 AM
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Understandably, they are dissatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:05 AM
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I’m not defending lying to women, I’m defending these men’s right to openly express dissatisfaction and to identity the dynamics through which they have worse lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:21 PM
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…because like I said, women’s rights are only possible when they lead to this degree of dissatisfaction among men, if those men remain peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:58 PM
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Uh, yeah, that’s why I’m mentioning it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:32 PM
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Personal experience with the women who are in fact, shockingly, like we supposedly acknowledge most people can be…hypocritical!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:25 PM
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Yeah, believe it or not, not all men who want casual sex can attract women who will engage in it with them…so for those men, to see others get it with ease, while being relegated to investing in a relationship just to experience sex, will induce resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:23 PM
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I didn’t say anything that conflicts with this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:26 PM
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So you disagree with my assertion that the desirability of the man in question influences how the legitimacy of their desires are perceived?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:25 PM
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It’s annoying because I refrain from doing it because there’s a rule against it, yet my content is continually collapsed at the -5 downvote threshold. When checking replies to these comments, I have to manually scroll down to the collapsed comment, just to reveal the remainder of the chain, instead of it automatically scrolling to it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:23 PM
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There’s nothing precluding these women from selectively speaking against casual sex when it’s lesser desirable men who are asking for it or advocating for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:21 PM
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How do you know that none of the formerly promiscuous women criticize men for seeking casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:13 PM
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If I’m several replies deep in the chain, they are online, they reply nearly instantly, and after one view it’s been downvoted once… that means they are doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 PM
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So there is something wrong with women who have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:06 PM
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The need to be snarky has ruined politics and gender relations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:02 PM
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Sound transphobic to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:01 PM
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This B downvotes every single reply to her comments. My reply will have one view and one downvote lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:00 PM
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Maybe a considerable portion of women aren’t hormonally healthy and trick their bodies into thinking they’re pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:59 PM
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There isn’t any overlap?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:57 PM
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They shouldn’t be allowed to be considered to be smart then. No more degrees until 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:57 PM
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Maybe they should talk their casual sex having peers against it, because it’s only in a world in which average men have to live knowing these better men don’t have to invest in relationships to have tons of sex, that a relationship being required is seen as a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:56 PM
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The point is that instead of women admitting that most men aren’t desirable enough for casual sex with them to be worth it, they paint this false picture of them having an overall critical view of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:55 PM
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How do you know there isn’t any overlap?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:53 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/KO6a946OU0
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:52 PM
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I didn’t disagree with the fact that everyone tries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:44 PM
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I never disagreed with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:39 PM
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You’re glossing over a lot of nuance. People have to try with different levels of effort, with different ceilings of their outcomes, and much of that is due to the dynamic explained above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:31 PM
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That’s patently false. Men having disproportionate attraction toward women (in degree and as a portion of the opposite sex) than vice versa means that men generally have to try harder to get less in the sex and dating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:22 PM
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I’m not. I’m just pointing out the downstream effects of this disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:13 PM
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Your model is incomplete because take that same heartthrob and throw acid on his face or stunt his growth so he’s like 5’8” and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:59 PM
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And yet, there are kids who are popular because they are more symmetrical and more closely resemble a swan
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:58 PM
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The bottom line of the consternation around the concept is: most women are only attracted to a smaller portion of men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:19 PM
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Women use the existence of men who actually do something wrong and get rejected/smeared after initiating interactions with women, to sidestep the discussion of men who were only treated that way for their immutable characteristics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:17 PM
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It’s like they think we can’t drive to their offices
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:15 PM
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.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:14 PM
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Woman A would have more success because there are more successful men than good looking men, so the top 15% of good looking men who Woman B is seeking out are not only less likely to commit, but they are not as well dispersed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:12 PM
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Yes, and they also happen to not be ogres matching with beauties, except for when the man is wealthier, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:53 PM
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They also happen to largely be similarly attractive and when they aren’t the women are using the man for other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:52 PM
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What’s nonsensical about it? Even though there is variance among people in who they are most attracted to, there is plenty of overlap
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:29 PM
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It’s just a shorthand so they don’t have to type out a whole sentence like my descriptions when discussing the attractiveness of various people in a scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:16 PM
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If looks weren’t a primary filter when seeking a partner, then assortative mating wouldn’t be a notably consistent finding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:15 PM
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Has a quantitative measure been used as the threshold at which a topic is too common/has too many posts to be allowed anymore outside of a pinned post? Like, in theory, could we all decide to keep posting about women’s rights, and force it to be a once every three weeks topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:13 PM
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Chad is a man who is visually attractive to most women. Stacy is a woman who is visually attractive to most men. Becky is a woman who is more visually attractive than average, but less so than Stacy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:11 PM
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There are literal parties and holidays to commemorate women’s rights…are they not worth being grateful for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:12 PM
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Stop gaslighting men is what should be done. Their lack of desirability in a modern dating market should be expected given the value proposition of their recent male ancestors being money due to previous women’s lack of freedom. These current men living lives of emotional anguish is part of the price of women’s freedom. They ought to say thank you to these men for laying down for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:59 AM
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I have to say, I’m convinced that at least a considerable portion of these men merely have low interest
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:22 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/LfTgs0TLjC <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:01 AM
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I also noticed that the sister said something about “already drying up” or some other description of her lack of sexual arousal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 12:01 AM
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This post is relevant here https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/LfTgs0TLjC
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:57 PM
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Are you critical of portrayals of men and women in media which paint the character negatively for failing to meet gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:43 PM
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…no. Men care more about having sex and romantic relationships than women do, and that’s ok. Their low self worth is due to women who they desire sex and relationships with, rejecting their authentic self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:30 PM
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Women don’t have to avoid the man ejaculating inside of them to avoid being responsible for a child, is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:04 AM
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Women get to have a man ejaculate in them and still decide that pregnancy/parenthood is an escapable consequence, men can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:25 PM
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You’re getting into the weeds here: women get to have sex without worrying about being a parent…men don’t. That should change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:42 PM
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Allowing a man to insert his penis into your vagina and letting him ejaculate inside of you is also irresponsible if you didn’t swear to each other to be parents if you get pregnant. …yet, women still get to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:56 PM
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This misses the point that they are still legally obligated to support the child. Women don’t have to pay more than the cost of an abortion or even a plan B pill when abandoning their responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:54 PM
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You’re speaking as though the woman must choose not to have an abortion… Women gets pregnant > both parents should get to choose if they are responsible for the child, via abortion and paper abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:53 PM
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I understand that the laws are currently rigged. Guess what? Sometimes tax payers should need to foot half of the bill for a baby the woman had because she was too afraid to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:42 PM
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So you’re against abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:30 PM
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Ok, but we have control over this; outlawing paper abortion is a choice, just like allowing abortion was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:30 PM
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Currently only women can have sex which leads to a pregnancy and guarantee that they aren’t necessarily responsible for the child. Men cannot. So they should be able to waive their right to be a parent in exchange for their ability to dodge that 18 year responsibility, like women can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:29 PM
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Men can what? Yes, as I mentioned, being responsible for a child for 18 years is not a reasonable requirement for someone who just wanted to have sex…therefore the woman can have an abortion and the man should be able to waive his parental rights in exchange for not being responsible for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:41 PM
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No, it doesn’t. Women just need to deal with the fact that sex can mean they become pregnant. That’s a separate issue from whether or not each partner gets the choice to be responsible for a child for 18 years after…having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:37 PM
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It wouldn’t work as you suggested because part of paper abortion is that the man surrenders his parental rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:36 PM
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Tell him that upon further consideration, you don’t see it working out due to compatibility issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:29 PM
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It’s important because it shows that people aren’t just special snowflakes; we’re just various versions of copies of one another and we mimic each other. The exceptions are often overemphasized as being emblematic of what it means to be human, and that’s just not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:19 PM
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There’s a general allergy to sociology and macro views here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:53 PM
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Oh, that’s not a clever dunk. I understand it; that’s just my mocking portrayal of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:52 PM
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I’ll add that we need to stop pretending as though desirable people take rejection well because of some virtuous principle. No, they take it more easily because they have plenty of other options. Also, it’s wrong to criticize men for wanting “bad” women who reject them. Guess what? Most people aren’t that great, character wise, so if you want to have a partner, most likely they aren’t going to be a great person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:28 PM
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Socializing is basically pretending to be dumb, beating around the bush, and obeying hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:24 PM
1

It’s clear to me that it was not about him being large
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:24 PM
1

She’s clearly bored and stiff, not enjoying it. It was meant to be a joke that he’s not satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:22 PM
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I think as long as it’s formatted in a way that’s at least as readable as the user generated slop that’s allowed on here, it shouldn’t be an issue. It should be presumed to reflect the authentic thoughts of the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:21 PM
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When he’s having sex with the protagonist, he’s making incredibly shallow/quick strokes, and she’s palpably bored (this is juxtaposed with the other characters having more passionate sex), then later he chooses the 2 foot long impractical whisk to prepare a dessert, a complete non sequitur and a clear hint at compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:19 PM
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They eat oils that aren’t meant for human consumption, fried food, and glyphosate laden wheat and flour products
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:55 AM
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It’s because their bodies are inflamed and that’s how the body tries to protect itself, but yes they also eat too much of it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:50 AM
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They refuse to admit that GAC is only applicable when the person is literally transitioning
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:49 AM
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Anyone see “Voicemails for Isabelle”? Thoughts on the mocking portrayal of boys and men crying or being emotional? Thoughts on the literal abuse and punching against a man in a sexual context? Thoughts on making fun of the coworker having a small penis? Thoughts on the male lead seemingly always being in greater demand than the female lead in these movies? It’s becoming the inverse of the “loser dude gets with the popular girl” trope of yesteryear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:48 AM
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Hilarious, indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:11 AM
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Perhaps it’s the women taking their money for simulated sex that solidify this connection to it being a tradable resource
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:11 AM
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Women settle and barely have sex with those men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:10 AM
2

Even though our brains make their own cholesterol, the cell membranes and nerve insulation need structural fats from your diet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:09 AM
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She’s his handler
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:20 AM
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Cholesterol = 🧠
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:20 AM
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Just a fair warning, AI content is banned on this subreddit now, there was a pinned post about it for a few days
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:18 AM
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It’s easy for women to meet those requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:17 AM
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They should date nobody, then most of these throwaway men would never have been born.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:21 AM
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Because women literally have money requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:55 AM
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Given how common this experience is, do you think it’s reasonable for the same young women who make taking precautions around men a priority (even entertaining themselves with media featuring cautionary tales of criminal men) to… be more skeptical even if a man turns them on? I think dating app dynamics would be more beneficial to average men if young women were more skeptical of these charmers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:50 AM
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So, I said average is “about 5 inches” so 5.5 is just as close to what I said as the 6 inches you cited. You said that my estimated buffer zone of about 1-3 inches is grossly overestimated, but you fail to provide your estimate. I’m aware of the approximate unaroused vaginal length that you mentioned. I’m aware that the vagina accommodates the size of the penis which is inserted; however, to be maximally pleasured, women need a skilled man with a larger than average penis length. The anterior an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:32 AM
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Let’s start demanding that people act accordingly then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:09 PM
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Far more likely that men’s status is measured by what attracts women to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:43 PM
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No, you can’t know they aren’t acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:42 PM
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The average fully aroused vagina is about 7-8” deep. Most couples will have a buffer of about 1-3” due to thighs/hips/buttocks/etc. The average penis is about 5”. So the average man, when balls deep, can only penetrate about 2-4” and it’s obviously less when they are on the backstroke, so they have a margin of a couple of inches for the length of their strokes before falling out… That’s not enjoyable or fulfilling to most women, save for the girth stimulation, but larger men provide both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:41 PM
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They are still acting kind. Nobody wants bad news or rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:38 PM
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Yeah, it’s called most women settle and most relationships end. Sex is more important to relationship quality than dance moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:37 PM
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Yeah. Women like larger penises so much that it’s penetrated the culture enough for minors to pick up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:36 PM
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They are, but things like confidence have been decidedly coded as gender neutral, so we ought to treat them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:35 PM
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But women aren’t expected to be confident to be attractive to men, and authentic confidence requires past success, therefore, it’s harder for a man to attract a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:49 PM
1

That’s specific, but the nuance that you outlined in your previous comment warranted specification by the parent commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:47 PM
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People tend to be confident because their life experiences have made that a logical conclusion. Essentially, confidence is just a proxy for “desirable man who has been well liked by others”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:47 PM
2

Looks are different. Personality traits are a fair comparison between what men must be and what women must be to attract partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:46 PM
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Ok, but that’s offset by women having an even stronger preference for men in the top portion of the height distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:45 PM
1

That would warrant specification.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:43 PM
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In general, yes I think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:07 PM
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We just disagree. It’s a basic physics problem of volumetric displacement and nerve stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:55 PM
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Answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:50 PM
1

Ok, so you disagree with me because…?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:49 PM
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If you disagree with me, then explain why. I’m not answering your Socratic questions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:42 PM
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Yes, penis size is core to how sex feels, and sex is more important than how a woman’s hair is colored. Many women could be 1% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:39 PM
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“Many” =/= most and because of that difference, you haven’t shown me to be wrong, we merely have a difference of guess as to what’s most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:27 PM
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Even though many women will settle for men with a penis size below her preference, that absence of a dealbreaker isn’t the same as being fully secure in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:24 PM
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Most people aren’t actually kind, either. They have merely been conditioned to be kind because it’s worth the likely outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:22 PM
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Most men…are average size or below. Most women, prefer larger than average size. Therefore, there will be a majority of men who by necessity of finding a partner, will only have the option of being with women who prefer larger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:49 PM
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This is from your comment: *”I had good sex with men from 4" to 7".* ^ here, you lumps the range of 4-7 together *”Something less than 4" would be too small for me. Something bigger than 7-8" would be too big.”* ^ here you explains why she lumps the range of 4-7 together *”As you can see 4"-7" is a wide range and overwhelming majority of men are in that. The issue is usually something else.”* ^ here you cite that for men in the 4-7 range, any issues related to their sexual ability are attributed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:44 PM
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This is from her comment: *”I had good sex with men from 4" to 7".* ^ here, she lumps the range of 4-7 together *”Something less than 4" would be too small for me. Something bigger than 7-8" would be too big.”* ^ here she explains why she lumps the range of 4-7 together *”As you can see 4"-7" is a wide range and overwhelming majority of men are in that. The issue is usually something else.”* ^ here she cites that for men in the 4-7 range, any issues related to there sexual ability are attributed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:42 PM
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…most girls and women care. Therefore, most men cannot fully satisfy most women’s preferences, so most men are not able to secure a stable relationship in which they are respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:39 PM
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Do you subscribe to the philosophy that it’s not enough to merely be allowed to and capable of doing something, if you face trade-offs or negative outcomes for doing it? For example, many people assert that it’s not good enough for a girl or woman to merely be free to choose to study STEM or apply to college to study STEM, she needs to have near society wide approval of that choice and to fit in socially with the men who study and work in that field.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:36 PM
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It didn’t come out of nowhere; many girls and women have strong preferences for larger than average penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:28 PM
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Most people aren’t nice, they are just presumed to be nice if they have a partner and don’t speak critically about sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:22 PM
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I’m saying that women have a variety of opinions on this subject, and it’s my assertion that most women, once they fully explore their body, disagree with the woman above.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:17 PM
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It’s called talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:57 PM
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Most of the women who sincerely do not care about their man being masculine, are not particularly desirable as partners. Why do you think they are so open minded? They can’t afford to be more selective. Also, the desirable women who claim not to care about masculinity are usually just virtue signaling, even if they think they could truly accept dating a lesser masculine man. As for your assertion that men insist on pouting, etc. that’s just a convenient cover for the fact that regardless of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:31 AM
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Average has never been indicative of what most people prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:53 AM
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But you’re pretending as though 4-7 is the same, and it’s just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:52 AM
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Well, we can’t really rebut this point on this sub anymore, but yeah, put two and two together
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:52 AM
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You’re acting as though the OP’s don’t read the text before posting it, as though it doesn’t represent their authentic beliefs. The only issue that I take with AI posted content is if it consists of sloppy, pages long walls of text; that’s a formatting issue, not an AI issue, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:04 PM
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It’s normal to have a preference which excludes someone like Sydney Sweeney. It’s about her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:56 PM
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It’s called being chosen by her in your youth/young adulthood, and bonding. It’s not the same as meeting these women for the first time at an older age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:55 PM
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What do you think this has all been about? Social media is out for a handful of years and suddenly it’s a huge cultural shift
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:12 AM
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Literally came here to say this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:05 PM
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I literally replied to your comment in that screenshot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:54 PM
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That’s not the point you were arguing. How is the government coercing anyone in this scenario? Woman lives in foreign country > she either enters this app *or chooses to remain living in her current country*… end of story…the government isn’t coercing her. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:32 PM
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Well you’re replying to me, so explain it or don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:04 PM
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Not having sex with her monogamous relationship partner hurt him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:12 PM
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IMO women need to get over it because being unwilling to pay for the date indicates being better than the woman and he knows it, so they’re lucky to be on the date with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:22 PM
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It’s weird when you can’t just accept that we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:18 PM
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<image> Stop downvoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:16 PM
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It’s not equal, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:15 PM
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It’s not about me. Most men aren’t that desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:15 PM
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I don’t know, a crash course like a masters doesn’t really say much about your intelligence/knowledge as it does your ability to jump through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:14 PM
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Making spreadsheet =/= at fault for the woman being frigid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:13 PM
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The real dark truth is that women lose attraction for men who commit to them, let alone get on one knee and offer up a literal diamond ring asking to please marry them. It wouldn’t be the worst thing, but most men are barely getting their women wet as it is. Society also needs to acknowledge that women essentially use men. Oh, women don’t need men for the money…*anymore* BUT they will extract as much value as they can, still, but this time from a position of greater leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:16 AM
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First of all, you’re assuming that he didn’t treat his wife nicely and that he didn’t perform the odd romantic gesture. Second, the spreadsheet’s existence and his tracking of the data was not revealed to her until the spreadsheet was completed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:37 AM
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OP’s proposal is not the government coercing women into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:34 AM
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Why is partnership with compatible partners wrong just because it involves people from different countries? What does that say to all of the green card holding women in the US? That in essence, their partnership cannot be consented to by an adult woman? Let’s not forget that nothing is precluding women from participating as app users; so you’re basically saying that the issue is the woman being from the non-US country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:34 AM
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I disagree. As long as some men receive attention and sex with women for being desirable, there will be status to be gained by becoming desirable and having sex. This is normal. It’s abnormal to pretend as though fully functional human reproductive systems are meaningless. We’re already making everyone wait until 18 to magically become adults as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:53 AM
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Oh please, drop the “extra steps” rhetoric. If you support women’s autonomy then you will support this system. It’s only if you believe that women can’t make informed decisions (that might even *gasp* require tradeoffs) that you would oppose this system. “What if she wants to break up” What if they had to decide after first meeting him on a travel visit whether or not she could commit to X years minimum with certain exceptions like abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:51 AM
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[DISAGREE] Men should never back down from seeking out casual sex. If men all stopped caving and entering relationships without casual sex first, then more women would come around to casual sex. This “covenant” branding sounds like something an intelligence agency cooked up to help convince potential national security threats to stop feeling unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:46 AM
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He was probably more desirable than her husband, too. Must have pissed her off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:33 AM
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No, if he stayed silent, nothing would be different. Women are allergic to owning the fact that they marry men who aren’t their sexual preference, because it hurts their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:00 AM
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No, “just pick someone else” is unduly dismissive and would only be appropriate advice to a Casanova.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:01 AM
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I would respond to that by saying that my primary criticism regarding women dating horrible men is, that ought to shut up the people who cite poor character as the reason why sexually and romantically unsuccessful men struggle. That’s a separate issue from who these lowlife men tend to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:58 AM
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I understand the purpose of victim impact statements; that’s why I still advocate for them to exist. It still shouldn’t affect sentencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:05 AM
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No, I mean the normal men who have casual sex with desirable women, not that subculture
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:26 PM
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…it’s the same type of man, he just settled earlier than he needed to, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:14 PM
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Whatever, then my position is to ignore it for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:43 PM
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Well these *educated* women didn’t get the memo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:33 PM
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Yes, we disagree about the proper way to rectify that discrepancy. I’m advocating for not judging anyone for being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:25 PM
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And? You act as though we owe it to someone to settle; that’s wrong and flies in the face of autonomy and consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:22 PM
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It doesn’t need to be attainable to render lesser desirable options not worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:18 PM
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She isn’t taking accountability because she’s acting as though it’s truly just coincidental circumstances that lead to her not wanting to have sex. Clearly, she has deficient desire for her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:06 PM
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I disagree; we all need to accept that in a hyper connected world, standards and preferences will rise and that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:04 PM
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That person is unlikely to measure up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:58 PM
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To men who value optionality in sex and dating, which this boss man had, he just chose to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:57 PM
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Her brain was changed by those experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:56 PM
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It’s about *how* it’s said. It’s like it should just roll off of men’s shoulders…like their favorite flavor of a food being out of stock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:54 PM
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It’s not even real…like we could all make up our own test and claim to be oppressed based on how media fails it. How about the innie/outie test: if a show has full frontal of a man, it needs to show full frontal of a woman Or the equality test: if a show isn’t set on a plantation, an inner city, or a southern state, at least 40% of the cast should be w
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:49 PM
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Victim impact statements ought to be read after sentencing. Killing a popular person should not be punished more than killing a loner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:48 PM
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lol they ought to be ashamed for openly begging like that. Someone scoot the place up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:46 PM
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Yes, perhaps it was the part where men are not considered “marriageable” or “eligible bachelors” because they only earn average salaries that made them insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:45 PM
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How is this an answer to the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:44 PM
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I think the true implicit assumption is that the man is aware of the limitations of his immutable characteristics. For example, plenty of people have sex and relationships even though they are X negative trait…but most men aren’t inherently desirable enough to take that hit, so the advice they are given is for A. How undesirable they are and B. Only committed relationships and only with similarly undesirable women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:40 PM
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Women don’t like being tasked with moderating their impulses. That’s not men’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:08 PM
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I disagree. Women bitch about choices they make each and every day… “How does this make me feel? Aggrieved and I will task the world with solving the problem instead of being a big girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:07 PM
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This is a poor excuse for poor decorum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:08 AM
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They would say “That’s an example of your problem sweety”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:28 AM
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It’s not a weapon. If she has dozens of reasons why she doesn’t want to have sex, every month, for a year, she should be the one to leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:30 PM
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You’re assuming that these stats are bad because you believe every report was actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:00 PM
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I do ask for the same details, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:00 PM
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No, if a woman is making excuses nearly every single day in a year, it’s fair to call it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:59 PM
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Most of these women are on a fool’s errand finding these men who will also choose them…they don’t exist, so stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:18 PM
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I’m sorry, but it’s a fact that not reporting these crimes increases the probability of these men harming or even killing additional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:16 PM
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If women are going to make major claims like their perception of risk is accurate and their paranoia around men is justified, *and* they mention things like “everyone has a story”, then yes, they owe us the details.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:11 PM
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It’s not a punishment, it’s showing that she should have just broken up with him if she needed dozens of excuses not to have sex with him. Because here’s what would have happened if he didn’t track all of that data: “Oh, honey, it’s just been a rough stretch, you’re focusing on this small sample of weeks, etc.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:03 PM
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🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:57 AM
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Literally all of my bosses were women and they openly discriminated against men for promotions and hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:52 AM
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You’re missing my point and getting hung up on the mass action. All I said was that women should negotiate better when there’s a negotiation, not to all strike for wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:19 PM
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Ok, I understand that perspective, but I don’t think people apply that principle of “if it’s risky today then it’s an unreasonable solution” to anything else. For example, it’s a fact that being a less than stereotypically masculine man generally reduces one’s probability of any given woman being attracted to him. Men are still scorned for not pushing through that in the name of promoting gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:21 PM
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“I don’t see the issue” is an implicit prompt to explain
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:15 PM
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No, that’s a fact. It’s quite simple: you don’t get paid to take care of your own things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:47 PM
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They only used men for money before, remember? Now in true transactional form, they are demanding other things instead of *just* that money now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:47 PM
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No, work is actual work, not taking care of your own kids and home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:45 PM
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It’s still overblown. Most women don’t experience the worst things they use as talking points to gain greater leverage and sympathy in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:44 PM
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No, I have to counteract the bs here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:43 PM
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lol I’m not elaborating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:42 PM
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Women made the choice to allow a man to ejaculate inside of their vagina…keep the kid…and now they’re aggrieved because they need to work less? That’s a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:25 PM
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Ok, but victims need to get real and stop acting like it’s the most common thing ever. Yes, it’s unfortunate. Yes, here’s a tissue and a cookie and a shoulder to cry on….but don’t use that unfortunate experience to paint a picture of how most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:23 PM
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The earnings gap is justified if men work longer hours…and they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:22 PM
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But they demonize all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:20 PM
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Their can ask for validation of their feeling without resorting to using stats to back them up which fail to actually support their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:17 PM
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They don’t get their way. That’s the first sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:13 PM
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When did you become a 1% contributor?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:10 PM
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She’s not smart because that’s her real face and this is the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:08 PM
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Insane because she’s like “I’ve had sex with so many hot guys, what happened to them liking meeee”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:07 PM
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She’s high maintenance and the video confirms it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:07 PM
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Whoever gives out awards, spend more time actually making and popularizing good points…stop forcing them into visibility. This site is rigged enough, we don’t need award givers to tell us what’s worth reading or valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:05 PM
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However gives out awards, spend more time actually making and popularizing good points…stop forcing them into visibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:02 PM
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…but men in that scenario are told to buck up and that it’s not a big deal. That’s somehow not acceptable to say to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:01 PM
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If they worry about being killed and still date the guy they are addicted to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:00 PM
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It’s just a coincidence that it’s men? Do you really think socializing women to be men would lead to the same outcomes? The change would probably get their violence rates less than halfway to the current male stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:56 PM
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You’re missing my point entirely; if women en masse were willing to take that hit, it would become normal for women to negotiate like that, and the stigma would slowly disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:53 PM
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No, women suck at negotiations and not enough of you are willing to take the hit of being “difficult” to sway the social norms. “OMG I wouldn’t be able to make smart choices and ask for what I want because some people wouldn’t like me” that’s a weak ass person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:44 PM
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You’re off base here. Women need to get over the fact that there are tradeoffs and yes, they will feel pressure in life…lol that doesn’t revoke their autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:42 PM
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They used a definition of SA that the women themselves didn’t even agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:40 PM
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Yes, like if she just wants to spend more time with you, she should just say that, not make false claims. However, she likely knew that you don’t spend much time by yourself, so instead of risking being told that, she manufactures data about your time spent by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:38 PM
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Yes, women don’t like data or being called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:38 PM
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Women’s fear and grievances are a right of passage and foster a sense of belonging among each other. They don’t actually think about the stats, they hear the popularized “stats” and it becomes part of their identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:37 PM
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It’s precisely 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:33 PM
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Weapons, get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:27 PM
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It typically does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:59 AM
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It’s not their choice. What runs the world? Those who control that control what happens. The soft launch will be things like…THE EU. “Do you really think Germany, France, etc. will want blah blah” yes. Then we will have the US control their hemisphere, then China invades Taiwan before expanding further, etc. I believe that WWIII will create the normalcy of these larger spheres of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:58 AM
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Women will never own their tradeoffs. It will always be the man’s fault for not being what she needed or wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:39 AM
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To slowly and seemingly naturally weaken/kill people in western nations that have socioeconomic power that could potentially subvert an eventual authoritarian one world government. There will be an EMP/hack, forced digital ID to access the internet, CBDC’s, social credit systems. They get everyone in line. Then they fake the alien attack/invasion, perhaps there’s a pandemic blamed on space germs. That’s when people beg for more control and the unified one world government is born. Look at a map …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:29 AM
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It’s called the spike protein and it will exacerbate existing weaknesses in your body, namely your heart tissue and various cancers. It’s the perfect weapon. Kind of like the movie, he tried to open your eyes when he asks the guy if he has any weapons on him, and gets poked with a needle. Then the guy attacks with three needles at once as a stabbing weapon. “Why only this one class of kids?” Nod to the batches. The witch is the media. She can get people to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:05 AM
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I’m talking about the corporate workers. You jockey a desk…find a company that’s less of a POS. Like “Hey, Todd, why don’t you put your meeting attendance skills to the test at a company that doesn’t abuse workers/sell slave labor products/pollute the environment/dodge taxes/etc.” No, instead it’s “Every job is fine, just don’t be an ICE agent” and *coincidentally* they don’t associate with any ICE agents and they associate with corporate types. Gee, it’s almost like it’s a self interested lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:00 AM
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Like just about every major company? lol the fact that you have to ask is a testament to how they only focus on ICE instead of say, people who can afford to find a different job who work for Amazon, AI companies, private prisons, Walmart, etc. They focus on the companies in those cases, not the workers. How about they grow a pair and ruffle some feathers at their social gatherings which include wealthy corporate types.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:32 AM
5

To those who criticize people for joining ICE… why not criticize those who work for other employers you strongly disagree with? They don’t *have to* work for those employers, as is commonly cited in the ICE example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:07 AM
2

But you’re effectively dismissing their impact. They can be a minority and cause mayhem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:22 AM
3

Maybe don’t lead your reply to him with “you’re talking about a minority of women” then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:18 AM
-1

Maybe men wouldn’t raise their sons that way if most hot women didn’t prefer men who are stoic and masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:17 AM
2

Then why did you dismiss OP’s concerns just because those women are a minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:13 AM
1

If we’re using your perspective regarding prevalence, then let’s cut the crap demonizing men for the extreme minority who r and k.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:05 AM
2

Are there any new compilation videos of soccer players collapsing from cardiac arrest? I know everyone was saying it’s normal and common in 2021 Also, where have all of the articles warning of mundane things causing cardiac arrest gone, like there were in 2021? I forgot another question: Is 5 years enough time after the pandemic measures ended to be concerned about the prevalence of non-COVID respiratory illness during the summer?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:01 AM
1

I forgot another question: is 5 years enough time after pandemic measures to be weirded out by people being sick during the summer?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:38 AM
3

Yes, exactly. Doing so is a known risk that women seem to think is worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:28 AM
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Yes, most people are privileged in this regard, but that’s not something they had a say in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:25 AM
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Are there any more cardiac arrest compilation videos of soccer players recently? I know everyone was saying it’s normal during 2021
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:23 AM
1

Real men don’t marry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:15 AM
-1

I’m going to try not to patron objectively unnecessary businesses, especially those whose profit rises with their patron’s health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:21 AM
4

It would just mean more sharing of desirable men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:20 AM
3

That’s not how it works. One man can sate the sexual desire of many women. One man having a hookup every few days keeps many women off the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:05 AM
1

Does this mean that when used properly, gel soap is more effective than foaming soap, since it forces you to scrub/lather?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:04 AM
2

Do you know the stats for men who rarely find a willing sex partner who they would consent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:57 AM
3

Yeah, or the “red wine is actually the best way to consume antioxidants”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:46 AM
2

What are some things we know for a fact from academia which people pretend isn’t known and they don’t incorporate it into how they live? Mine is - you’re more likely to be r’d and k’d by the man you chose to marry than the creepy dude who “was creepy” walking around in public
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:28 AM
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Ok, and? You took the high road. I would completely accept you choosing not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:26 AM
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No, you’re making up that I even came close to suggesting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:00 AM
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Ok, but I would support you in not pushing through, is all. Like, you deserve to be a righteous asshole without being criticized for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:59 AM
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I’m just asking, why wouldn’t they be assholes? Like, let’s stop acting like it’s some moral failure instead of cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:53 AM
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Why wouldn’t they be assholes? The world, including other children, treated them poorly since they were children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:36 AM
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That is attempting to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:36 AM
3

Being healthy by merely exercising and eating less is a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:27 AM
2

I’m aware, but I asked a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:20 AM
1

Yeah the chicks probably aren’t hot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:53 PM
1

The point is, they shouldn’t have to maximize. If a woman isn’t attracted to the base model of a guy, they aren’t for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:52 PM
1

How about asking “is this user even desirable to most men?” Like cool, I’m sure each woman who accepts genetic trash is a beaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:48 PM
2

Average society wide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:47 PM
1

This is a privileged take
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:47 PM
2

So do you think men should always take what they can get? This is the only way this perspective would make sense to me. You seem to dismiss the notion of a valid cost benefit analysis which concludes that it’s not worth it to some men because they wouldn’t consent to the women they would gain sex and relationships with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:46 PM
2

Imagine insisting that there’s always a possibility that it’s worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:44 PM
5

This is why women get so upset at lifts and toupees…they don’t want bad genes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:44 PM
2

I’m not Gen Z, but I think this is a good thing. They are perhaps the first generation to enter adulthood with clear eyes. Social media, smart phone, and dating apps have always been established for them. They knew what they were getting into as long as they paid attention. Older millennials and up didn’t have the full picture and they had to reckon with the consequences of their decisions regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:42 PM
1

People who don’t have a choice except to be with someone who can only provide that level of experience and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:33 PM
3

So you agree with OP’s point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:30 PM
1

These aren’t who most people prefer sexually though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:29 PM
2

So you do you disagree with OP’s point that guys do things women don't like because some women do like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:28 PM
1

Did you have a choice of an equally compatible partner who provided etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:26 PM
1

I disagree. Women don’t get to wax poetic about “fairness” and “equality” only to abandon those principles at the first opportunity. Most women have benefitted from this cultural zeitgeist of a pursuit for equality, so even if they don’t individually agree with it, they are forever indebted to it. Also, if they want to have children, they should ask themselves if they are rich enough to pay for someone to do their share of chores if pregnancy and child rearing render them unwilling to do it them…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:22 PM
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We should more readily acknowledge how most people have to choose between mentally ill, immature, and/or poor character partners, or nothing. I’m tired of seeing women reply to men’s discussion of how suboptimal most women are in these ways with a curt retort of “don’t date those women then”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:19 PM
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Most women seem to be diametrically opposed to the notion that anything happens beneath their conscious thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:15 PM
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This will only create an advantage for those with older siblings, “cool” parents, and the tech skills to circumvent the ban. Social media is part of real life now, and sheltering teenagers from it won’t help them. Let’s be real, these bans are a result of young people being anti-war.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:14 PM
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I don’t know, sure it’s unnatural to know this much about each other, but the cat is out of the bag…I’m in favor of being informed, not ignorance in pursuit of some antiquated sense of wholesome naivety.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:12 PM
0

So you agree with OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:10 PM
2

How would you feel about the reverse orgasm gap though? Do you think society would actually pretend to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:53 PM
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The world is built for two. You don’t need to be rich to fit in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:51 PM
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No, what you described is basic social tact. I’m talking about, if you don’t really agree with something, don’t nod your head. If you don’t really like someone, don’t pretend to. If you would rather stay home, don’t accept the invite. That sort of thing. Most people refuse to admit that they aren’t authentic. I will accept that concession as well as actual authenticity, either one is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:49 PM
2

Why were you ever on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:01 PM
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Sounds like you all aren’t actually into men. You’re afraid of them and just want to extract what you want from them with minimal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:00 PM
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Why are you on a meat market app if you’re worried about being dehumanized?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:59 PM
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No, true misandry is having the audacity to claim that women are the real victims of war, like Hillary Clinton did. True misandry is reveling in how women surpassing men in college admissions to levels less equal than in the 1960’s is a good thing and definitely has nothing to do with affirmative action or hostility toward men. True misandry is flaunting how women don’t need men for money anymore…then insisting on only marrying men who earn more than they do. True misandry is insisting that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:58 PM
1

Take Tylenol, it dampens empathy, so you will be less in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:52 PM
0

Yeah, it’s called anti-intellectualism. We know what causes narcs: too much attention and praise or way too little
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:50 PM
1

Love is just our brains ensuring reproduction occurs and that maybe the resulting child will be able to walk before the man leaves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:49 PM
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I feel bad for Marc…true BB. She was like, well, he seems like a sucker and will take care of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:47 PM
2

Wrong, it’s a scrunchie on her wrist or a choker on her neck
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:46 PM
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They can’t come right out and admit that the ambiguity of these scenarios is the point. It’s one big test for being NT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:44 PM
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So it’s not rare for an individual woman to be inconsistent in this regard…yet your parent comment didn’t acknowledge this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:38 PM
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Then the proper framing of this issue would acknowledge this and attribute men’s failure to it, not their attitude or beliefs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:35 PM
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100% of them would be creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:34 PM
2

🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:34 PM
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Do you think that inconsistency in any given individual woman is rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:31 PM
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No, he didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:29 PM
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Your proposed system would result in the cheapest plans failing due to those with the most health issues sinking it. The only way that a healthcare system would make sense is to have everyone on the same plan. The only way to get the proper number of facilities and professionals for such a system is to get the ball rolling with the new system…otherwise there’s no onus to have them built and educated/trained. We’ve wasted 9.5 years already. We could have started in 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:59 PM
1

Red vs Blue? No, it’s a PURPLE REIGN 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:39 PM
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It’s not extreme to want to cut out the middlemen health insurance industry and instead have all citizens on a single payer plan to reduce costs. It’s actually quite normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:38 PM
0

They sincerely would rather have T than Bernie. That’s how donors feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:30 PM
0

Or…hear me out, the post Occupy movement culture of division (division by gender, race, sexual orientation, gender identity, political party, etc.) which included MeToo, drove men away from the political left. They saw the “Democratic” establishment favor Hillary over Bernie, and thought “huh, well, I guess we’ll give Republicans a try” and you know what, they weren’t demonized just for being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:19 PM
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Because most people want to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:52 AM
1

I didn’t threaten violence and it’s not about me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:51 AM
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No, I don’t wonder. “Do you hear yourself?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:48 PM
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I’m not suggesting that women ought to happily pass up those men. I’m living in reality and saying most people don’t have the privilege of avoiding such people if they are to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:48 PM
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Water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:44 PM
1

That’s irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:00 PM
1

Because women choose men, not vice versa. If you get the privilege of being able to *either* terminate or keep a pregnancy, then it’s your *responsibility* to limit the men who you allow to enter your vagina with their penis, to those who would be good fathers and affirmatively want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:48 PM
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Calling me bud is uncivil. Yes, by those women. Average people are more beholden to traditional norms than it would seem in popular media and metropolitan areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:46 PM
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I can’t say it here, but you know what it is. Plenty of people form long lasting romantic relationships after first meeting as casual sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:43 PM
1

We all contain multitudes because society doesn’t allow us to be authentic and get what we want unless we’re rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:40 PM
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It’s called a character mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:39 PM
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I’m saying, the existence of those things doesn’t prevent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:39 PM
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You’re assuming that I’m the one doing this. I’m merely explaining that even though it would be the right thing to do for these men to show empathy regardless of how it’s not shown to them, it’s unreasonable to expect them to, as in, there’s a decent probability of them not doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:32 PM
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Do they? Because last I checked, minority report was fictional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:25 PM
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I disagree, the fact that I’ve roped you into caring enough to even discuss this topic is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:24 PM
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It’s just my preference to live in a world in which theft, etc. are illegal. I don’t have to pretend that it’s based on anything other than what I want and leverage to have it enacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:23 PM
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All you should care about is actual violence. Up until that point, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:23 PM
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It’s too late…should have shown men more empathy before they made a big stink about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:20 PM
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The point remains, it’s up to you to ask each individual you’re interacting with whether or not they are still trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:20 PM
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Holding the world to account.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:18 PM
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It’s the logical response to a callous world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:49 PM
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Unselected men have largely given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:48 PM
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No, because ultimately the opinions of your in-group still determined: if you had sex, if you had relationships, if you were hired, if you were approved for housing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:47 PM
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You’re assuming that they haven’t given up already due to a valid cost-benefit analysis. What you’re reading is the fallout. Calling out how “be a better person” is invalid advice if objectively horrible people have sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:44 PM
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No, the justice would be assholes not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:42 PM
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Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:41 PM
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Ok, well until assholes are not being incentivized with sex, relationships, and social acceptance, then expect sexless men to call it out. You can’t shame sexless men for “wanting to be able to be assholes” if you barely shame the actual wife beating, women raping, law breaking, assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:24 PM
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It’s not a trope, and yes, they downplay it as only some women, when most women don’t actually care much about your character provided you treat her, her friends and family, and wait staff well, and are of high desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:23 PM
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Yes, in fact every major aspect of one’s life is determined by what other people think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:21 PM
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Believing that most people would have good intentions even if they were forever sexless is, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:20 PM
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I know, because the courts are dead set on only allowing women to determine their destiny after conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:14 PM
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Drop the sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:14 PM
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That’s delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:13 PM
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Care to address my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:49 PM
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And my point is, many of the people who you consider to be good people, aren’t good people, they are just properly incentivized to care about women’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:48 PM
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You’re not directly addressing what I said. I asked about men who could never have sex (ever). Also, I’m not claiming that all men only care about women’s issues because of sex, I’m saying that not all of them would if they could never have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:41 PM
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I’m arguing in good faith, you’re just unwilling to step outside of the paradigm. The dictionary definition was arrived upon to help people feel “authentic” while being fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:34 PM
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Again, the children of women who make poor decisions shouldn’t be allowed to perpetuate that cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:33 PM
1

That safe space influences social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:21 PM
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At the end of the day, as the person who can become pregnant, it’s up to women to manage their reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:19 PM
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Stability, reproduction, fitting into society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:19 PM
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Yes, because their mother didn’t need to allow the pregnancy to advance beyond day 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:13 PM
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Yes, if one of those parents right to back out ended at ejaculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:08 PM
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That doesn’t preclude access to sex from being a significant contributing factor in most men’s choice to care about women’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:08 PM
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I mean the words which trigger a manual review.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:06 PM
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I understand that the laws were written in a way that ensures that the government doesn’t need to provide for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:57 PM
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Like I said, that was crafted for a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:56 PM
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Women will always have the upper hand if all they need to do is say that they feel uncomfortable, unsafe, etc. it’s an unfalsifiable thought terminating cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:55 PM
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I understand; they are still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:54 PM
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Your definition of authentic was crafted to make people comfortable with the fact that being inauthentic is required to fit in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:54 PM
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It would be helpful if the flagged terms were publicly available so we could craft posts which abide by the rules without needing pre-approval
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:43 PM
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