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| 0 | Why sexual assault often goes unreportedIt's fucking dumb to think it doesn't help, to think its a wasted effort, to say it shouldn't be encouraged. Bolding the shitty language used also doesn't help your point. Further, that's not what you said above. You said Serial rapists get away with it because you are so fucking dumb. Implying that the person shamed into silence is "fucking dumb" for remaining silent. And they're absolutely not. They are a person having an incredibly human reaction to trauma. Adding to this is that, yes, rape i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 09:49 PM |
| 6 | Why sexual assault often goes unreportedMaybe I would be to emotional and be unable to do it but as I citizen what I should do is clear. The judgement is clear. Who is arguing against this? Obviously reporting and getting the rapist arrested and jailed would be the best outcome. Serial rapists get away with it because you are so fucking dumb. But I fail to see how it is "fucking dumb" to feel such intense guilt that you are shamed into silence post rape. It is an incredibly normal, human reaction after trauma- someone you trusted viol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/15 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Where is this behavior actually going on?How is realizing that you're the issue "unplugging"? "Unplugging," as rp defines it, is waking up to the "lies" you were apparently fed about women and attraction: they aren't angelic beings who require zero physical attraction! (Huh???!) To be attractive you need to be... attractive! (What?!) Dear lord do you lot love changing your definitions endlessly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 11:31 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?I never said women past 35 didn't have a more difficult time conceiving, although it's still not that difficult. About half manage within only 1 year, and 80% manage within 4 years. Just to measure the depths of your insanity: Who has more to lose in reproduction and would accordingly value the health of the opposite sex's gametes more? Women, who have to carry the baby for 9 months and then care for it for at least 6 years? Or men? Cheers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 12:11 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Women [want] status because it optimizes their chances to pass on their genes. Actually, good sperm optimizes a woman's chances of passing on their genes. And who has the best sperm? Young men. I believe the red pill community calls this shit testing, when a woman tests a man to see if he corrects her wrongs. Still pretending I'm a woman. Let me guess- makes it easier for you to believe you're right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 12:00 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?And your attempts to insult me based on your belief that I'm female do the entire human race a disservice. It's hilarious! The largest age difference features a much younger man. Pretty much at odds with everything you've claimed so far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:47 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Fertility peaks soon after puberty and declines slowly, then more quickly. Literally everything we've read so far disagrees with this. What are you basing these claims on? Thin air? How you think things "should be"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:45 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Actually, most women date men close to them in age, especially in younger generations. The biggest age difference he found in the 2014 Current Population Survey data? A 21 year old man married to a 79 year old woman. Brilliant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:40 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?we were discussing women's fertility. We can discuss male fertility in a moment. Actually, we've been discussing both for quite some time. And rate of pregnancy is a marker of both maternal and paternal fertility, a point which continues to elude you. I actually know that the fertility is higher in the late teens but the chart doesn't show that as they are not trying to discuss babies having babies. No, it's not. Not according to any of the sources we've covered here. You can't just spout bullsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:35 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Stop moving the goalposts in a desperate attempt to find a point. We're not talking about 'relative age,' we're talking about absolute age. And men are absolutely more attractive at a young adult age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:32 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Did you read the article? Did you read how paternal age has a huge effect on rate of pregnancy or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:29 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?You said: high status older multimillionaire. to counter my claim that the erotica novels featured hot young men. 27 is young. So, you're admitting that you had no point? She is young, he has status. It's a female fantasy, not a male fantasy. Here's to you, Mrs. Robinson... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:27 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?See the chart? See how it declines gently startin in the early 20s? Oh, you mean around the time that men begin to experience declines in fertility? We already know that paternal age/sperm quality is a huge factor... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:25 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Sure, she's younger. But he's so far from being "old" it's hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:21 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Women are bad at math. I said almost all men think the way I describe. Almost means not all. That means less than 100%. You've gotta be a troll account, right? This is too rich. Elon musk doesn't date women his age. He trades down to younger women. That's because he is incredibly high status and can have whoever he wants. So why isn't he dating a 22 year old? His wife is (gasp!) nearing 30. It's not like there's a lack of 22 year old models... Almost never......pay attention to that word almost.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:19 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?The guys on the covers of these goofy erotica novels, how do you know their status? So now you're hamstering that they are young and muscular but also probably (you think!!) high status and that's why they're attractive. Okay bud. Also, as far your stupid example about novels, the most popular of them all is 50 shades of grey, with a college girl getting beaten by a high status older multimillionaire. Hahaha I just looked it up and he's 27. Man, it's like you're trying to suck at this. You're ol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:10 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Your largest and strongest is only relevant if it leads to status Nope. Wrong. Being large and strong means you are better able to hunt and protect- traits women are actually biologically attracted to. Why are silverbacks always the largest and strongest gorilla? Also when you mention that some women have peak fertility in their 30's, that's really so rare as to be not relevant. 99.99% of women are more fertile at 22 than 32. Perhaps you could cite your source for this? According to the source I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?The women you mention were hotter when they were younger. Not in my opinion. Those last two sentences are quotes from the Wikipedia article on age and female fertility. How funny, you seem to have picked the study which supported your argument slightly better (although, not really at all- you claimed that female fertility decreased beginning in the early 20s...) But this study had a sample a third of the size (782 women) of the study they mention in the following paragraph: "A French study found… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you know any women who respond to jerk/bad behavior from men? I do.Oh, so this is a satire account? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you know any women who respond to jerk/bad behavior from men? I do.Yes, people with low self-esteem exist. And you're just a piece of shit cheater. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 05:17 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?It was a struggle to think of those two, and they were bad examples, and I was drawing upon all my memory of every lady I had ever seen. Jennifer Aniston, Halle Berry, Jennifer Lopez, and Diane Lane spring to mind as people who looked better in their 30s than their 20s. But this is a somewhat silly point to belabor, since celebrities represent a microscopic population. Fortunately for me as I age I have not become less attractive, unless I become fat or bald. I guarantee you are less attractive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?She reminds me of these guys with that smile. But of course all these women are gorgeous, I was just demonstrating what a strained full smile, or bad lighting can do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 04:09 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?I can scarcely think of any other examples of women continuing to be that hot into their thirties. You thought of two off the top of your head. Our red pill friends will make a biological argument about what men are obsessed with youth. I can't say I disagree with them, even if it makes me a superficial asshole. Sure, just accept the fact that you're also becoming significantly less attractive with age unless you are a true outlier. Hell, even Clooney was more attractive in his 20s. Men don't ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 04:05 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?I think this point completely eludes rpers. Sure, being attracted to youthful people is normal- but certain women, like certain men, truly do get better with age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 01:02 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?No, that makes sense. I was thinking of Tyra and the middle model specifically. But they may have been out of their VS contracts at the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:34 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Agreed that SI models tend to be less startlingly thin. But they're often Victoria's Secret models as well, no? I'm having a hard tmie not lol-ing at RPers calling her a 4. If Miranda Kerr is a 4, Imma just move to the mountains and live in a cave. They're collectively insane, it's official. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:21 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Oh, um, okay then. *Finally found one of her smiling dead-on. This is ...not my type. Again, I suppose there's no accounting for taste! And an added bonus of one of your other picks! (Dear god.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:18 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?No, she was a Victoria's Secret model for 6 years. Not sure how you missed it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:15 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?I really like her look, but I also love the look of much less neotenous women (Jennifer Connelly from roughly age 30 upwards for instance). I love 'jerkasses' and may have to steal it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:13 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?But thanks for the personal insults. Every time I read one from you I check a box in the win column - nothing logical to add = personal attacks are the only recourse. You may want to examine your posting history. On second thought- don't. It's too funny to watch you insult yourself. Nope. You are caught up in comparing men and women on the same scale. The truth is that makes no sense. It's like comparing a lime to an apple and concluding the lime is "inferior" because its not as sweet or crispy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 06:12 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Doing a fine job at proving you're completely useless? Thanks, but you were already succeeding so well on your own! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 06:05 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Aw, such a shame! You can't even pretend you're not full of shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:52 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?You must have never had kids. I most definitely have dealt with children my entire life. Their attempts to manipulate adults are hilariously out of touch, and if you think otherwise, well... that says a lot about your level of cognitive functioning. After dozens of messages I'm still not sure you have a point. Sure, I'll helpfully reiterate for you: rp is built on the idea that women are inferior, and its members are drawn and fully subscribe to this message because it makes them feel superior. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:49 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Exactly as I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:31 PM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?So you are claiming that women begin to bald (the "receding hairline" you mentioned previously)? Could you provide, oh, I don't know, any medical or scientific citation for this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:31 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Dear lord you're boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:06 PM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Sure. Post a picture of her holding your username, or an agreed upon phrase, from the neck down. We know you'll be able to convince her to do this since you're so alpha and in control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:05 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Man, you're a funny guy/gal. I didn't know conversing with like-minded individuals was considering a religious activity. I didn't know I "subscribed" to anything. Thanks for informing me about how I'm living my life, pal. You're so welcome! Aspects of a religion: professes to "show you the light" (check), has core tenets (check), prescribes certain behaviors and actions (check), promises you salvation (check). As for women's strengths (I'll preface this by saying I'm basing this purely off my en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:04 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Oh, bud. No. Bernie Sanders platform doesn't rest upon the belief that certain groups of people are innately superior and that other groups of people are innately inferior. Your religion is built upon this idea, as is that of the KKK and Neo Nazis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:56 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Hahahaha natural d bags Do you guys really believe anyone is buying this shit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:32 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?The first two images aren't photoshopped. And the very first image is her under harsh, overhead lighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:31 PM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?According to rp biotroofs men should love Kerr's look- she's got an extremely neotenous face, is exceedingly fit/thin, and has great skin and hair. But the first aspect is the most important, according to rp. And what do we see in that thread? A bunch of rpers shitting on her for her extremely neotenous face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:30 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?She just isn't that hot compared to other internet pictures of women. So many of these are photoshopped, though. It's really hard to hit everything: thin, fit, still quite busty, tiny waist but sizeable hips, great skin, beautiful hair, shapely ass*, and a gorgeous face? I'm guessing vanishingly few women meet all those criteria. I've known a few that meet all but, say, the busty part (this one is common- tits are composed mostly of fat). Or aren't so thin, etc. *can't believe I forgot about the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:26 PM |
| 5 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?She has a better hairline than most women her age I guess. In the rp universe apparently women start balding at 30 as well. Seriously dude, what planet are you on? Do you know any women in real life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:23 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Without googling to see what Kerr really looks like, I could easily understand why a chick who's only about as attractive as the most attractive women you're friends with on Facebook could be seen as average if given a bad photo. I didn't expect you to have such a reasonable stance on this. Color me surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:21 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Here she is with no makeup, shiny face and all. She looks absolutely beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:20 PM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Runway models don't necessarily need to be gorgeous, only thin, tall, and striking (generally strong bone structure). But Victoria's Secret models? Yes, they are the epitome of gorgeous and sexy. As recognized by the entire industry and culture at large. I guess you're assuming your personal opinion overrides that somehow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:18 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on multiple TRPers rating super model Miranda Kerr a 4-7?Maybe it is all down to taste, but you truly find her more attractive than Miranda? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:16 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Yes, it is all rp endorsed, sidebar material. That is, the core tenets of the religion to which you've subscribed. Defend any of those points above using peer-reviewed studies. List the areas where women are superior. Don't include "birthing babies/motherhood" as we didn't include "insemination/fatherhood" in the list above for men. Please, I invite you: create a comparable list of women's strengths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:03 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Great rejoinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:02 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?That's exactly how the people who are drawn to them feel about the KKK and Neo Nazi movements: "gosh, these guys are saying all the shit I always suspected was true about blacks and jews!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:01 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?I picture you hunched over angrily putting this together hahaha. Go and get laid you head-case...Even if you are a man you communicate like a frantic bitch, you are incapable of exploring viewpoints that provoke emotional conflict within you. Oh, man. Just more useless, impotent ad hom attacks? How very boring. It seems you're the only incapable one here: incapable of defending your stance, incapable of debating without resorting to tired, uninspired insults, and somehow utterly incapable of ans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:00 PM |
| 12 | Forget about Miranda for a second. The TRP criticism on Miranda's guy is off base. I rate him much higher physically than TRP does.I wonder how rp will hamster away the fact that he's 7 years younger than her. It's definitely not from a lack of available old male billionaires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 03:57 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Let's do this point by point: "Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions." Are you arguing it isn't superior to be able to think clearly and rationally rather than being blinded by your emotions and unable to think rationally? "Men are adults while women are children." Are you arguing it isn't superior to, as an adult, be looked upon as an adult rather than a child? "Men are capable of unconditional, self-sacrificing love, while women are purely self-interested and view love as transact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 05:54 PM |
| 0 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?I know for my circumstances to get better, I have to get better And your impetus for realizing this was a hate group forum on reddit. It's just... deeply sad. Most people reach the above conclusion as a young adult because it's common fucking sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 05:24 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?You said that being RP was about going around enjoying the power trip of women being inferior. That's not accurate, and that's why I corrected you. I'm aware of what RP philosophy endorses, and agree 100% with the material you quoted. Understanding that women's reality is ruled by emotions moreso than men's, and that therefore her ability to make rational decisions is impaired because of an emotional bias, is definetly RP theory. And no, I still don't believe you have to be an asshole to underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?And here's yet another cowardly idiot too scared to admit that the meat of rp--the core tenets--are based around female inferiority. A summation of the sidebar material: "TRP dehumanizes women by emphasizing that women are not only different, but fundamentally inferior to men: Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions. Men are adults while women are children. Men are capable of unconditional, self-sacrificing love, while women are purely self-interested and view love as transactional. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 05:08 PM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPThat wasn't a critique, it was a direct summary of the rp sidebar material. I invite you to familiarize yourself with the links and report back. The fact is that RP advice goes completely against the message that modern men get growing up: all women are dainty disney princesses, I imagine in this hypothetical you don't have any female siblings or classmates or any interaction with girls as a child? being a door mat is how to get girls to like you Ah, yes. That ol' chesnutt. Funny that "door mat"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 05:05 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Way to prove my point with this emotional, question riddled, word-salad of a reply. Can you see how emotional your response is? You keep assuming I misunderstood you I answered each of your idiotic statements on a point-by-point basis. That is the opposite of "word salad," but nice try, I guess? I'm not "assuming" anything; you answered my post* with a bunch of insults based upon your belief that I'm female. It's an embarrassing show for a debate sub. It's like you didn't even try, buddy. and as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 05:00 PM |
| 0 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?The following is all sidebar, endorsed material. You've subscribed to a religion based on the following tenets. I invite you to take a long, introspective look at yourself and ask whether only an asshole would believe the following: "TRP dehumanizes women by emphasizing that women are not only different, but fundamentally inferior to men: Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions. Men are adults while women are children. Men are capable of unconditional, self-sacrificing love, while wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 04:51 AM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Making unsubstantiated claims anonymously is now impressive? My that's a low bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 04:21 AM |
| 2 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?I love how you desperately try to insult me based on the belief that I'm a woman. Golden. women are child like manipulative idiots for other reasons. So sorry, but when did I argue that women were "child like manipulative idiots" for any reason? My comment was that women wouldn't be attracted to someone who holds those beliefs, for --I would have thought-- extraordinarily obvious reasons. Firstly, you are incapable of any true insight into your own behaviour, like a child is. Oh, really? Please,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 04:19 AM |
| 4 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Are you truly attempting to argue that rp can claim "work out, be interesting, don't be a doormat" as proprietary advice? Are you high? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Are all men potential rapists?I hadn't ever heard of psychosexual surrogacy before, very interesting! Good luck with everything- I will definitely keep you in my thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Are all men potential rapists?the Despatch Box when Harman or May defunds male cancer care.. or SurvivorsUK is defunded.... That's atrocious. Jesus. But were cuts like that made all over the place? Or specifically for organizations meant to help men? And when Sarah Noble MP - a LibDem Cabinet Minister is tweeting out killallmen... if she was Home Secretary But Noble was immediately suspended, no? This is where the misandry false-flagged as "feminism" gets VERY scary. Nail on the head there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 05:05 PM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?How is that either grammar nitpicking or a personal insult? If rpers say "RP men" to mean* attractive, interesting, confident men... then yeah, women will want to be fucking those guys. Because they are hot, interesting, and confident. Not because they believe women are child-brained manipulative idiots incapable of actual love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 05:00 PM |
| 16 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Get in shape, wear nice clothes, have hobbies, don't be clingy work on pretty much everybody (man or woman). These aren't rp tactics. No nonsense advice columnists, relationship gurus, etc have been preaching this forever. You can tell what are actual rp tactics by the rp language/phrases used. 'Dread game,' 'hamstering,' 'plating,' 'AWALT' etc. Some of the concepts appear elsewhere, but the specialized language and underlying tenets point to the actual meat of rp. And it sure as hell isn't "wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commitSure, then address what you now know to be my actual meaning Except I didn't. You used a phrase that means "absolutely similar," so I addressed the actual meaning of your phrase. Learn what words and phrases mean before you use them- people on the internet can't read your mind, and we also don't have the benefits of inflection, body language, etc to help glean your meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Are all men potential rapists?Then why was this bellowed out from protests in the 80s and 90s, and become the baseline for gynocentric laws? Which gynocentric laws? Honestly curious. Why the hell should I listen to a group that alienates me in the first sentence? Ever heard of winning hearts and minds? I'm not disagreeing that there have been very vocal, but very fringe idiots, who shout the "kill all men," "all men are rapists," etc bullshit. But Dworkin especially has been lambasted as one of those, and her work was so nua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Are all men potential rapists?I think the way we've ignored male victims (until very, very recently) is utterly atrocious. Have you worked with a therapist at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 04:49 PM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPFor example, my very strong preference for a sexual dynamic includes me being dominant and my partner being submissive. I can spot a great sub at 100 yards at this point in the game (including women who are convinced that they are dominant in bed, which is hilarious), it's that pervasive for me. Yet, I engage in almost no BDSM-related "Dom" behavior. I've never choked, I rarely spank (unless asked - it usually doesn't cross my mind unless it's a few slaps across the ass in doggy-style), I don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 04:20 AM |
| 3 | Positive vs Toxic RP"In the traditional sense" - that is TRP at worst offers something more than those hate groups you'd compare it to. That was my point. Right, because the Nazi's didn't similarly preach about the importance of athleticism or attractiveness, or anything. Super solid point. Do they? So you were a sexually unsuccessful man who made a genuine effort to implement red pill ideas and practices, failed, and then attempted one of those alternatives, and succeeded? Or are your experiences orthogonal to min… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPWhy do women tell men "Just be yourself!"? Why do men tell women this? Why do parents tell children this? Why do teachers tell students this? Everybody hears this bullshit. It's not the fault of womankind at large that the men of rp never figured their shit out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPYour third paragraph. Otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it. Huh? So stating that "Rp is built upon the idea that women are inherently inferior" is somehow "retreating" from my stance that they are a hate group? Hate groups are all built upon the idea that they group they target is inherently inferior and deserves derision (or worse). It's, uh, kinda what makes them hate groups. I've got airtight evidence: my own experiences. Oh, cool. And my experiences directly refute yours. Oh shit- guess … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Are all men potential rapists?Dworkin/Mackinnon/who-the-fuck-ever insisiting that all men were INHERENT rapists Except that neither of them ever said this. Truly, do people bother to look this up? Or just endlessly parrot a line they've heard on the internet, 'cause gosh, it must be true! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Are all men potential rapists?But what gets my goat is the "teach men not to rape" aka "YOU need to learn not to rape"... when I know how hellish it was. Fucked me up for 30 years. Men do the majority of rape, even using the most conservative of estimates. Both male and female victims. That's why the campaign was specifically worded to target the men who might convince themselves it "isn't really rape" if she's passed out, etc. Either way, I'm sorry for what happened to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RP[chokeˌ cHōk/ verb (of a person or animal) have severe difficulty in breathing because of a constricted or obstructed throat or a lack of air.](https://www.google.com/search?q=choke&oq=choke&aqs=chrome..69i57.1078j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8) Hope that helps you out a bit. Which is more likely? I thought this was common sense.. I thought it was common sense that doing vanilla things that pleasurably stimulate your partner or things that they specifically enjoy isn't remotely the defini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:34 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPOK, so you've retreated from your stance that TRP is a "hate group" in the traditional sense Oh, have I? Do tell me, when exactly did I "retreat" from this stance? and fallen back to pointing and laughing at the beta losers who need to be told such things. Does "beta" = idiot now? Geez, you guys and your constantly shifting definitions. Doesn't it get tiresome? I might add they do this successfully, which is more than can be said for those alternative resources mentioned upthread. You can preten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:28 AM |
| 8 | A critique of the oft-cited MRA custody stats by Mark RosenthalMen....can often predict how things will turn out 20 turns ahead when not clouded by romance, lust or greed. You guys truly do invest in this collective wet dream of godlike masculinity, huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RP"TRP dehumanizes women by emphasizing that women are not only different, but fundamentally inferior to men: Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions. Men are adults while women are children. Men are capable of unconditional, self-sacrificing love, while women are purely self-interested and view love as transactional. Men are born to lead, women are born to follow." Credit to /u/cherryblue12. That's all sidebar, endorsed material. Rp is built upon the idea that women are inherently infe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:06 AM |
| -1 | Positive vs Toxic RPI'm considering disregarding your posts. Oh nooo whatever shall I doooo? (just having your hands around a neck) Laying your hand near or on someone's neck or stroking someone's neck is not choking. Rpers do love to invent new definitions for words and phrases- it might just be your favorite collective pastime apart from misogyny! A majority of people aren't going to be involved in the kink scene. People who are into actual choking (eg 'breath play') are decidedly kinksters, whether they use the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:03 AM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPmore men than women like to be dominated? and your source is the kink scene rather than regular sexual experiences with a normal population compared to people specifically interested in sex or in a fetish? Yep. We're discussing a fetish (domination) so the kink scene seems a pretty logical choice for population. Show me the stats that back up your assertion (that a vast majority of women enjoy being choked and slapped) or you're simply blowing hot air. Statistically what amount of men enjoy bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPHate groups have traditionally been surprisingly popular as fringe movements. It is an exceedingly attractive concept to those with little to offer (physically, mentally, otherwise) that they are innately better than large segments of the population (whether by virtue of their skin tone, genitalia, nationality, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPon another level, men =/= women. "I know I wouldn't like this, and I know women say they wouldn't like this, but I'm gonna go ahead and believe they do because a forum on the internet told me so." i don't like being choked or slapped, but i know many women that do. Many, many men enjoy that (if not significantly more men than women it's at least an even number)- ask anyone in the kink scene. And this is why generalizing about half the world's population is fucking stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPMost of the good stuff about Red Pill is about being a better and more attractive human and being able to have satisfying sexual and emotional relationships. The bad stuff is related to the kind of people who would hang out all day on an internet message board and talk about the Red Pill (immaturity, misogyny, lack of social skills or self awareness). This is such wholesale bullshit you're trying to sell. If it were true the sidebar and endorsed material wouldn't consist of the following: "TRP d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Is this graph an accurate representation?HB8, HB9, HB10... the 1-10 scale is for sexual desirability, no matter how you're trying to spin this. It is fucking weird for you to rate your daughter's attractiveness on a 1-10 scale. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 11:47 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of this article on /r/theredpillYou could read "She's Not There" by Jennifer Finney Boylan. She is repeatedly shocked by how difficult life is as a woman. Or you could put your fingers in your ears and shout and pretend that men have it so much worse than do women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Is this graph an accurate representation?It is really fucking creepy for you to rate your daughter on a scale of sexual desirability. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commitOh, so you're just unfamiliar with the actual meaning of the phrase. How embarrassing for you :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commitI claim they are completely comparable. Is this claim I just made falsifiable? Tell me, what did you mean by the above? Here's how the rest of the world uses the phrase (just to key you in): to imply that two things are absolutely similar. No, I claim they can be compared to each other and be considered two elements of a spectrum under one category (bad behaviors). Not that they are identical acts, which is a complete misrepresentation of the issue. Do your feet hurt from backpedaling so hard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:40 PM |
| -1 | How to deal with, "I dont give head."I actually made a relevant point: words are used contextually. Yes, and the context was forcing someone to do something during sex they had previously refused. The main takeaway point here, is that force isn't relegated to physical force or threatening. Then use a different word. How you described the sex was "beta" as fuck sounding acccording to rp- pay attention to her, communicate, eat her out. It's like you threw forcing her to do something in there to pat yourself on the back for still bein… | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commitI claim they are completely comparable. Is this claim I just made falsifiable? You claim having a lot of consensual partners is the same as committing a henious crime? Yes, your outlandish claim is easily falsifiable: one is a crime that lands you in prison when convicted because there is a victim you have attacked and violated. The other is not a crime and there is no victim. Got it? Great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commitYou keep ignoring the one qualifier that I've repeated at least twice now: If you're the type of person that believes that past behaviour is an indicator of future behaviour, then this behaviour is logically inconsistent. I'm not sure how that at all ties to "forgiving people for having lots of partners is the same as forgiving people for being rapists." Perhaps you could explain? If one person bounces around between a lot of different partners, I'm going to assume they don't like monogamy. If t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commit[belltaco] She can choose to forgive a man for a promiscuous past and not forgive rapists.. [you] She could, but it's logically inconsistent behaviour. You're moving goalposts like crazy in an attempt to legitimize your stance: Both cases didn't have a trigger, being that they were one-time events. Look to the exchange between bell and you I highlight above- my analogy of eating peanut butter vs. robbing you blind fits perfectly. Make up your mind about what your stance is and defend it. If you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 05:23 PM |
| 1 | The Donald: Misogynist, or just an uncouth dick?Hahaha sure, bud. We all believe you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Excessive promiscuity often has a negative effect on a man's ability to commitNo, it is solely you who are suffering from an inability to think logically here. Forgiving your boyfriend for eating the rest of your peanut butter =/= forgiving your boyfriend for robbing you blind. In what universe would forgiving someone for having multiple consensual sexual relationships be the same as forgiving them for violently sexually assaulting someone? One is a violent, violating crime. The other is not. These two things are not comparable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 05:02 PM |
| 2 | TRP is a natural responseThe sharpener that's sharpened a lot of pencils is in demand and everyone wants it. And, the sharpened pencil is sharpened away to nothing soon enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 05:22 AM |
| 1 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?Loris. It doesn't matter if they are using them for porn or messaging them. I am talking about their preference. Not whom they actually approach/message. And women similarly prefer young, taut, fit men. Just check out the porn that's targeted to women. If they're looking at 21 yo "for porn" as your link states... But messaging 41 yo... All that reveals is they'd prefer to have the 21 yo but realistically assess they can't get them so message the older ladies. ...Right. Because it doesn't matter … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 03:23 AM |
| -2 | How to deal with, "I dont give head."This is RedPill, not TwoXChromosomes. No I'm not inventing words but environment is ALWAYS RELEVANT to the context of a word being used. "tall" in China is different from "tall" in Detroit. Tall doesn't mean 5"9 and short doesn't mean 3"5. Words INHERENTLY are relevant to people's experiences (because mostly the way we relate to each other is relative. That's very relevant if you understand the fundamental base of language). It's not that I'm changing the definition of the word, is that I'm usin… | /r/askTRP | 14/08/15 02:56 AM |
| -4 | How to deal with, "I dont give head."Let me ask you something. When you use words do you actually imagine you can invent your own definitions for them? That you can pretend you don't know how they are commonly used in certain contexts? What does it imply to you when someone says: "I made [person] do [action]"? how do you actually imagine me "forcing" her to do it? The way a person would force someone to do something they don't want to in a physical context. Using strength to position their bodies, intimidation, etc. Do tell- how ex… | /r/askTRP | 14/08/15 12:38 AM |
| 1 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?Your original words were redpillers believe being attracted to 14 year olds is normal. Not red pillers believe 14 year olds can consent to sex. Did you bother actually reading the comments from rpers in that thread? I don't know maybe the best actors are spread out over ages rather than just 18? You're changing the topic. Seriously, bud? "The best actors" for parts that had barely 5 lines? For characters whose most important feature was their beauty. You said it's weird for men to find young wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 05:22 PM |
| 1 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?Men are also forced to live up to standards socially and are punished, often by women, for not doing so. I agree that constricting social ideas of masculinity are bullshit. But, really- do you believe it is primarily women who have traditionally (or even currently) derided men for not being "masculine" enough? "You throw like a girl," "you pussy," "you fag," etc etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 05:15 PM |
| 1 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?Oh lord. That OK Cupid idiocy again. Do we really need to cover how flawed that "data" was, for the thousandth time? "We know it is not their dating age preference or their messaging habits. OKC previously blogged that info. Eg, we see 48 y/o men have a stated age range and messaging habits favoring roughly 32-50 y/o ...If it's just looking at photos, no relationship interest and no messages... kinda seems like men are using OKC as softcore porn. Best guess with no context/evidence." Oh, that's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 05:08 PM |
| 1 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?The point is men are free to their own preferences. Who is arguing this? Of course you're free to prefer 18 year olds at 50. Everyone else is free to make inferences about you based on it. Guys don't get a say over if girls like tall/rich/athletic/whatever guys, it's not up to them, their opinion is worthless on the matter. Sure. And, again, society at large will judge you for going after the young, easily manipulated, and inexperienced. Because it's predatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 04:41 PM |
| -5 | How to deal with, "I dont give head."Then eventually just make her do it in the heat of the moment, and then reward her by doing it to her. You force your partners to do things they've explicitly said no to, and hamster that it's okay because it was in "the heat of the moment"? | /r/askTRP | 13/08/15 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Period Sex.Because fecal matter is somehow less disgusting. Logic. | /r/askMRP | 13/08/15 04:29 PM |
| 2 | The Moral Consequences of TRPOh nooo whatever will I do???? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:42 PM |
| -1 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?Where have women that young been discussed? All over this sub. There was a post about it a while ago specifically: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2m82if/a_few_questions_on_the_age_of_consent/ Perhaps. Can you give show me a discussion or comment where people advocate dating 14 year olds? See above. Why is it weird? Maybe to marry, but for casual dating and sex it's odd than men want younger better linking women? Tell me, why were all the wives in Mad Max in their late 20s wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:40 PM |
| 1 | The Moral Consequences of TRPYou don't decide the basis of my post. I do. You did. And the basis of your post was, to remind you yet again, "The objection to TRP is mostly from a moral perspective" With a following discussion of how rp might violate said moral codes. Respond to my argument or stop wasting my time with your bullshit. I am. Your argument is based on a bullshit, false assertion. Got it? Great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:28 PM |
| 0 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?I've never seen a feminist (*to cover my ass in the face of internet insanity, a noteworthy, non-fringe, non-tumblr feminist) say that people aren't allowed preferences. And still... the links haven't come. Feminists are incessantly complaining about oppressive, sexist "beauty standards" for women On the basis that women shouldn't be forced to live up to these standards professionally or socially nor be punished for failing to. trying to get fat women accepted as models and on and on. Have you l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:26 PM |
| 0 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?That's the point. Yes they would. But they don't go for younger guys, they go for taller guys. People aren't shaming it because it's a "uniquely male preference" (buddy, if you think women find the over 30 set more physically attractive than taut 20 year olds you are sadly mistaken); they're shaming it because 18 year olds are barely out of high school. They're largely idiots, easy to manipulate, and haven't come close to mental maturation. So women shame men who dont have the same preferences a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:22 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanOh, she's definitely an agent. An agent that, due to the inarguable facts of nature, gets to decide what happens after conception since it happens inside her body. Men have the option not to have sex if they don't want the responsibility of parenthood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:12 PM |
| 1 | The Moral Consequences of TRPAs for your objection to my "mostly" claim, is that the best you got? Even if it was false, that doesn't invalidate what I said, as my main point doesn't rely on that statement being true. You are throwing a red herring at me. That people object to rp mainly on the basis of morality is the entire basis of your post. That is decidedly not a red herring. Do you guys even attempt to understand the terms you throw around wildly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:10 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanMy god you're dull. For the last time: babies are a risk of sex. Don't like it? Get a vasectomy or don't have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:06 PM |
| -2 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?False. Doing some quick googling: Oh, I guess you somehow missed the actual top result for that search? Here, I'll remind you: "Most women hit their fertile peak between the ages of 23 and 31." But that's besides the point. Biological fertility really doesn't matter; it's not what we're interesting in. What matters is looks and behavior. What are "looks" a marker of? Oh, that's right- fertility. According to rp it's all about fertility: that's supposedly why attraction to 14 year olds is normal,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 11:05 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanit prevents them from making choices over a man's body Oh, so now they've apparently forced him to have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 05:43 PM |
| -4 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?How about the shaming of men for not desiring fat girls ? The whole fat acceptance thing ? That is... not what fat acceptance is. 'Fat acceptance' is the idea that overweight people deserve to be treated like humans. Put "must be under 120lb" on a male dating profile, and get shamed for being "shallow" and "fat obsessed". Much like the men lamenting these "shallow" and "height obsessed" (also apparently "sexist" somehow) women all over this forum and the internet at large? Butthurt people gonna … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 05:42 PM |
| 2 | The Moral Consequences of TRPIt's those first three bullet points (which are questions of what's true rather than what's moral) that are some of the most hotly contested. Directly contradicts your claim The objection to TRP is mostly from a moral perspective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 05:16 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanA its illegal, whether you are impling rape, assault or intemadation And? It's still a huge risk to be alone and vulnerable with someone twice your size and much, much stronger than you. if a man assualt or rapes a woman the imedate affects are short term. Please, do cite your proof that the effects of rape are "short-term." 90% of men would touch a woman unless heavily provoked. the women can bounce back at her own pace. Please, do cite your proof that 90% of men (I'm guessing you meant) wouldn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 04:58 PM |
| 2 | The Moral Consequences of TRPThe objection to TRP is mostly from a moral perspective Nope, sorry. You can't make a claim and then pout and say "let's stay on track" when someone points out your claim is false. Debate doesn't work that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 04:42 PM |
| -2 | For Red Pill men: why do you care what's written on the profiles of women in online dating sites?Ultimately, it's not the female preferences that are really the problem. It's the fact they can pursue them openly and men are shamed or denigrated for doing the same. That simply isn't true. Feminism has traditionally fought against women being valued solely or primarily for their looks- which was historically the case in many (most?) cultures. That has never been the case for men in a widespread cultural context. I've never seen a feminist (*to cover my ass in the face of internet insanity, a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 04:37 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanretard i am on your side on that point, No, you're not on any side- it's clearly far too difficult for you to understand what I'm saying or form any cohesive argument of your own. Men are larger and stronger than women. It's not fair, but we can't change it. Women take this risk when choosing to be alone with any man. Women carry the burden of reproductive responsibility and therefore the decision of what to do with the results of reproduction. It isn't fair, but men take this risk when choosing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 04:27 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?You provided one historical source that did not even fully support your position. And what of the historical source demonstrating the falling age of menarche over time? Your others were related to biology. No shit. Marriageable age is directly related to fertility. Always has been, always will be. Fertility, to remind you, is the ability to carry a baby successfully to term. It had much more than that. Your reading comprehension is terrible. Oh, did it? Perhaps you could share exactly how "much … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 12:39 AM |
| 0 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?You'll hamster it away as it being due to the inherent nature of women, but the reality is, dude, you're just a socially retarded chode. Hahahaha oh man. Thank you for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:56 PM |
| 3 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?If you fail a math test you know that you didn't know how to solve the problems correctly, maybe you were taught completely the wrong way to go about solving a math problem. Gosh, that rather seems like blaming others for not teaching you correctly, rather than taking personal responsibility for not learning the correct method yourself. I'm so curious as to how you read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:50 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanSex leads to babies. Women can choose to get abortions or keep the child (her body, her choice- cry some more about it). Men can choose to get a vasectomy and always wear condoms (his body, his choice). Where's your argument, exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Is there any empiracal data or research that backs up the idea that niceguys actually have neferious intentions or entitled attitudes?It's actually men getting frustrated that the bullshit YOU women sold them (Just Be Nice, Just Be Yourself) isn't working. Gee whiz, where were all your male role models when this was happening? Your father, male teachers, uncles, older brothers, etc etc etc. Did the mean lying wimmenz shush them into silence so they could spread these vicious lies? Have you seriously never considered that all children are sold this wholesale bullshit? "Beauty is on the inside!" "Looks fade, it's what's inside t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:43 PM |
| 1 | How does TBP explain the AWALT's of Tinder?Not really on topic, but that's pretty shitty of your partner. Big natural boobs sag. What guy doesn't know that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:36 PM |
| 4 | How does TBP explain the AWALT's of Tinder?Proves TRP is relevant because people still live by gender roles like this: Man= Taller Woman= Shorter. Oh for fuck's sake. Height is not a "gender role," it is a physical attribute. It would behoove you to learn the difference. It also happens to be a marker for 'maleness'. Is it misogyny for heterosexual men to like breasts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:30 PM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanYou're confused on what the 'naturalistic fallacy' argument entails. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with terms before you attempt to use them to derail a debate you're losing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:18 PM |
| 1 | On Rape Culture In the West [Video]That seems like a huge, improbable leap. But even if so, your reading still doesn't make sense. In the situation you describe the "act" (here, it would refer to 'using the footage') hasn't occurred yet. Perhaps Lauren misrepresented what their interviews would be used for, the people got wind of this and decided they no longer wanted to be a part of the interview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:13 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?I've provided evidence from multiple sources. You provided the evidence of one juror's ruling as cited on a Wikipedia page. Rather seems like you're the one speculating wildly on what the past 'ought' to have been like. Shame it directly conflicts with the actual facts. Synthesizing data from a variety of sources is a pretty useful skill when debating a point. Perhaps you should attempt it sometime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:09 PM |
| 0 | On Rape Culture In the West [Video]Perhaps that's why the woman called her a 12 year old? Because no right-minded adult believes you can have consensual, non-coerced sex and then decide to retroactively withdraw your consent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:07 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?I mostly just meant that it was generally socially acceptable, And I'm telling you it wasn't. Girls at 12, even today (when many already have experienced menarche), look like little kids. Back then? Absolutely acted and looked like the children they were. You think parental instinct didn't exist? That these neotenous, sub-5' little girls were commonly married off to be "fucked" (read: raped) by full-grown men? Are you aware of the permanent damage that would cause their tiny bodies? To enlighten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:22 PM |
| 0 | On Rape Culture In the West [Video]Reported in this context means reported to the police . To look at the disparity between rapes and reported rapes , they use surveys of the general population v's the number of rapes reported to the police . How are they not understanding these very basic facts? Alongside confusing university tribunal ending in expulsion with "law enforcement investigations." It's... hilariously sad the tenuous grip on reality we're seeing displayed here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:14 PM |
| 0 | On Rape Culture In the West [Video]I'd like to know in what loony-liberal-land, and at what time, did colleges and universities deem themselves capable and qualified to conduct law enforcement investigations, independent of civil police/sheriff findings. Oh gee whiz guys, colleges can send you to prison now?! Maybe you could provide some links of this happening! And lil ole me just thought, "huh, they're organizations that can expel members if they find those members have violated their code of conduct"! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:12 PM |
| 0 | On Rape Culture In the West [Video]Yeah no chick you don't get to have consensual sex and then later go oh but no now I say no and the guy gets punished! Are people truly claiming this? I thought the idea was that you could withdraw consent during the act, no? Or that if you consent to sex once it doesn't mean you've automatically consented to all future acts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:07 PM |
| 2 | BP, is it internalized sexism when women always want the man to be taller than them?In this thread we have Blue Pillers literally ADMITTING women prefer TALLER men because of BIOLOGY ("INSTINCT"). May God help us all. ...And? Who's here to argue against biology? Sexual dimorphism is a thing: men prefer smaller (at least in stature) women, women prefer larger men. The world continues to turn. Now, when you're spouting idiocy like "women are child-brained, manipulative, illogical hate-beasts incapable of love" people take issue with you claiming it's simply 'BIOLOGY!!' because it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:03 PM |
| 1 | BP, is it internalized sexism when women always want the man to be taller than them?Is the lady on the far right truly more attractive to you than Brooke Shields? Brooke in her youth, if that's an issue. Are my eyes not functioning properly? Because the far right chick looks like average trailer park nothing special to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:59 PM |
| 2 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Oh, I'm aware. I was agreeing with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:27 AM |
| 6 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?The vast majority of who, now? It's hilarious to me that you think men have a monopoly on interesting hobbies or charming personalities. What planet do you live on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:25 AM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanI'm literally using your "logic" from above. Perhaps that means you should find a cohesive argument? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:46 AM |
| 4 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Feminine doesn't mean female, it means womanly, and is a useful weird to describe people, actions, or items that we associate with a gender. It is absolutely useful to know what the shorthand of "feminine" means in your culture. But the definition of what's 'feminine' means varies widely, and often with opposing meanings. She is absolutely feminine in many senses and understandings of the word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:45 AM |
| 2 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Men also value intelligence, wit, and talent to a huge degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:30 AM |
| 2 | Any blue pill response to Ronda Rowdy Rousey's comments regarding DNBs?Ultimately, most men are really only after one aspect of the girl, her body. The rest of her does nothing for us even if it is useful. It's kind of like trophy hunters who kill an entire elephant just for its ivory tusks and leave all the nutritious meat because who cares. You are describing a very specific type of man and claiming that it describes "most men." Completely disregarding that only the shallowest and most idiotic of people ignore everything apart from looks in a partner. ...Oh my go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:28 AM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanSO we make abortion illegal then right? because equality? And we cripple all men, right? So they're not stronger and larger than women on average? "Because equality"? Some things aren't fair. I'd suggest you fucking deal with it :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Why should we say that women , as a group, are inferior ?Women may provide more calories but if the tribe was attacked by a predator or anther tribe, it was going to be the men tasked with defending them. In nearly all of these extant tribes, women help to defend alongside the men. We see this in primate groups as well. Selling and trading wares is one thing but doing it on a huge scale is something that was started by men and made possible by the cooperation that is more naturally present in men. I suppose it would have been more accurate for me to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:18 AM |
| 1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomani was i though i was saying if women get abortion men get LPS by defualt. And I responded that you're trying to absolve men of responsibility for their actions as if they were idiot little children. Adults know the risks of sex. remember the whole keep you pants on argument i mention 2 posts ago? if its bullshit for women it bullshit for men get over it. You need to "get over it". Women have to carry babies. Men have to deal with their actions. Some things are unfair. Fucking deal with it. and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?Awww, no response? What a huge surprise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 04:45 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?Because you're still wrong- reproductive age was reached in the late teens. Again: the average age of menarche (first period) in 1860 was between 15 and 16. Prior to that? Between 16 and 17. Way back then? Perhaps even later (though I doubt it, honestly). 80% of periods the year following menarche are anovulatory. 50% are still anovulatory the third year following. What does all this mean? That if we take just a second to think critically, then recorded instances of one man saying "Oh, yeah, 12 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 04:41 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?"It seems clear that the average age of marriage during the Early Middle Ages was comparatively high, in the early twenties, and quite equal for men and women." Do tell me, what does it feel like to source "HISTORY" as your mic-dropping argument just to be proven so deeply, deeply wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 01:46 AM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?And what of the proportions of white physicists vs black physicists? Mustn't that bespeak the vast superiority of whites over blacks? How many of OP's buildings were designed by black architects? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 01:41 AM |
| 3 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?Not to mention that a 12 year old giving birth in the 11th century was so unlikely as to be impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 01:19 AM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?You realize that the 'age of marriage' being 12 had to do with the arranged marriages of nobility for political purposes, yes? And you're similarly aware that these child brides weren't sent off to their husbands until their late teens? And one juror using that guideline as the lower limit for being "within age" says rather more about his leanings than the practices of the time. After all, girls weren't experiencing menarche until around 16 or 17 at the time. And fertility has traditionally been… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Why should we say that women , as a group, are inferior ?He's shitting on procreative power as if it wasn't the singularly most important ability a human could possess. He jellis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Why should we say that women , as a group, are inferior ?They were therefore left to defend and progress the tribe with all the extra time. In extant hunter-gatherer societies, women provide the vast majority of calories for the tribe. Not men. Civilization is a male construct to improve our chances of survival. Business is a male invention. The vast majority of items we use in our lives were invented by men to help mankind. Nope. Women have been selling and trading wares since the dawn of time. Smaller fingers, better fine motor skills, etc. The top … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/15 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I am 34. I talk a lot about my 20s though, perhaps you remember it wrong because of this. ...Sure. You are correct. Tried it but didn't succeed. I'm guessing anal appeals to you because the woman is just barely meant to tolerate it. So no biggie if you fail to get her off! No pressure! You can't miss if you're not trying to score! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?You stated above that you view the penetrated partner as inherently "lesser" and then doubled down, stating most (if not all?) men feel this way. Are you backpedaling? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:58 PM |
| -1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanthey expelled a male student that was raped by female student. also you should read up on title 9 And my point stands. College rulings =/= the law. did you even read the lines previous to that? All I saw was you bitching that women get to decide what to do with their bodies, and that men should be absolved from their actions. Like little children. and men dont have the same reproductive control women have by a long shot. LPS is needed. No, condoms or vasectomies are needed. You choose to have se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?The guy is a piece of shit if he doesn't care whether she is in pain or not. Why? According to you women, as the penetrated sex, are accordingly lesser. Why care about their pain? Or their pleasure? They're just a meatsuit of fuckholes! I have the feeling that you operated under this assumption from the start of the discussion. Yep. When the guy knows she tried it and it was astoundingly painful for her, yet he continually pressures her to try. That is a "preoccupation with anal" and is a clear … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:35 PM |
| -1 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanamherst feminists A college chose to expel a student and you're claiming that this is the law as written at large? Come on, buddy. Try harder. [me] Second point: "Wahhh I don't like the realities of procreation!!!!!" Yeah, well, it sucks for women that they have to carry the baby for nearly a year and then be it's feeding bag for months upon months afterwards. Sucks for you that it's her fucking body and she gets to decide whether or not to take on the responsibility. Don't like it? Get a fuckin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?You completely failed to explain why a huge proportion of gay men -- possibly the group most educated on anal sex around -- don't partake in anal. Like they've never of stretching. Bitch, please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I masturbated to pictures in mail-order catalogs. Women in bikinis and stuff. The internet wasn't a thing back then. Oh, I'm calling bullshit! I've seen you mention you're in your 20s before. Come on, man. You can do better than this. Well, we did try things of that sort. Bought a book about massages and one about tantric stuff. Unfortunately both were useful as...can't think of an analogy. The books were shit. You've never mastered giving a woman multiple orgasms? Color me wholly unsurprised. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?That link prompted Chrome to tell me "Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information." So maybe you should quote what OP said for me instead of linking. Because that "relevant part" kinda sounds like something you said. The guy could have prepped, used half a bottle of lube, and still kept going even though she was in pain. Those aren't mutually exclusive scenarios. In fact, I'd bet that's the experience of most women who hated anal. Because as you state clea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Here's what I think: Many of today's young men believe that anal sex is somehow the "ultimate" act of sex, because they grew up during a time when online porn purveyors where testing the limits of what they could get away with. The result? Lots and lots of degrading anal porn. So not simultaneous orgasms, not being able to come inside your partner, not getting your partner to experience multiple, body-wave orgasms, but instead you believe that using an orifice that is designed to expel waste for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?She didn't find out if she is built to have anal sex with enough lube, with a partner she trusts and with enough preparation. So sorry, I must have missed where she said they didn't use sufficient lube and preparation? Perhaps you could link it? She just learned that her ass can't take a brutal beating by a stupid guy who has no idea about ana sex, but tries it the way he was spoonfed by porn. Oh, I'm terribly sorry, but again- I must have totally missed where she said that he "brutally beat" he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?And that's what I'd suggest to her. She already did. God, it's like arguing with a rock. Yeah, it is like it is. Wish it was different, but it takes time to get this stuff out of your system. I truly feel for the women who make the mistake of dating you. Come on. I've been in enough LTRs and I didn't see any of my GFs as a series of holes. I was going by your earlier, elucidating comment that it was "just another hole for women." Fascinating mental gymnastics we're seeing here. No, I am not too … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Because it's not speshul to you. It's something you were spoonfed by porn and accordingly desire as if it is somehow the ultimate sex act. Baaaaaaaaaa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Well...I wouldn't trust myself with knowing my body and my limits. I have no idea if my ass could take a brutal pounding or not. That's on you. I'd suggest finding out! You'll probably like it... nice prostate action, mmm. The whole "being fucked in the ass is considered gay" thing. Even though I am not homophobic, I guess that our culture has done a good job in making men not want to be fucked in the ass. Inb4, but fucking someone else in the ass is gay, too. Well, not it doesn't have that stig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Exactly. That's why your suggestion that "he can just leave" is not as easy as you make it sound. So he puts up without anal and shuts up. Because she's worth more than her asshole's availability. As astounding as that might be to you. I'll repeat: Poor, poor hard-done-by you. All unable to have anal because it causes your partner immense physical pain. Gee whiz do you have it hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Even science doesn't know why people have fetishes. Where on earth are you getting that from? Generally fetishes arise during childhood. Usually the first sexualized images or videos you see. You're young, the first porn you watched probably featured anal. Mystery solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?What about meeting halfway and try to make it work? How the fuck is that "meeting halfway"? What the fuck are you on, dude? "Oh well, we'll just try anal, and since it's just "trying" it somehow is meeting you half way ...cause ...uh... it is yeaaaaap." Honestly. I forgot...it might even be enough to talk about it, be considerate of his feelings while doing it and show that you understand him. Seriously. He might accept that you don't want to have anal, and be okay with it if you at least show t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I don't know really. When I had it with my girlfriend it just was an incredible feeling of mutual trust. I trusted her to communicate with me and not just take the pain if there was any. Wow. Such trust. Much vulnerability. How were you ever able to continue! The trust that must have taken, to shove your dick somewhere! Incredible. I have no idea. It has always turned me on. I don't know why I expected more than this utter lack of introspection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?But then why are you completely dismissing the fact that it isn't a given that she is not built for it? You don't take into account that it could have been that her ex fucked up. Because she's a sentient adult and I trust her to know her body and its limits? I don't believe women to be idiot irrational children. But we differ in that regard. Well, I would hate it for different reasons. Being afraid of the pain is not one of them. At all. Please, do elaborate for the class on your reasons for hat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I still think that mutual trust plays a role in having anal sex. But not in the sense that he could hurt his penis. Okay, great. Then explain where the trust is coming from on his end. Perhaps we just skip the mutual trust part. Sure. Now go ahead and tell me the reasons anal is so speshul for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Funny, you're the one that brought up "mutual trust" as being one of the key selling points of anal. And then you admitted it wasn't "mutual" at all. You're not terribly gifted at debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?AAHHHH! NOW I see where you are coming from. Damn it, lol. I've been saying this the entire conversation. Not sure how you've missed it but I'm pleased you finally caught on. But that doesn't mean that I'd do it under certain circumstances. I'd hate it though. It is hilarious to me that guys who are so incredibly into anal have--without exception-- stated that they would hate being on the receiving end. So very, very odd, that you'd want to do something you admittedly know you would hate to your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I have been there and it's not that easy. You don't "just decide it" and it will never cross your mind again. Doesn't work like this unfortunately. Unfortunately for you, you're dealing with a human being and not simply a series of orifices. Poor, poor hard-done-by you. All unable to have anal because it causes your partner immense physical pain. Gee whiz do you have it hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:33 PM |
| 0 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanFirst point: men are larger, stronger, and handle the same amount of alcohol significantly better than do women. So the whole, "we drank the same amount!" defence falls oh, just a teeny bit short. Yes, if you're both significantly hammered, it isn't 'automatically' the man's fault (who on earth claims this?). But men do need to drink significantly more to be as hammered. Second point: "Wahhh I don't like the realities of procreation!!!!!" Yeah, well, it sucks for women that they have to carry th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:23 PM |
| 1 | User simulator study+/u/user_simulator /u/lorispoison | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I emphasize that he should accept it if she isn't build for it. After he gets to "try it out." Because her already knowing she isn't built for it (since it was horrifically painful for her the first time she tried it) isn't important, I guess? If you use your pinky finger? You can't experiment with your pinky without feeling pain? Ok, I find that hard to believe. Ah, so your dick is the size of a pinky finger? Anal on, my friend! You're built for it. Where do I say that I would? Didn't you say a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?So again: Yes, he can break up, but most people don't just break up over sexual incompatibility. Right- so he decides anal isn't a necessity for him, and you're not an asshole on the internet that tells her that her personal boundaries based on actually experiencing terrible pain during a sexual act are somehow "wrong." Boom. Done. Ok then, so be it. If she isn't disgusted by the idea of ass-play on him, she should suggest that. Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Oh dear. Which part are you confused about now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?I respect that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?If it doesn't work because she is just one of the women who can't have anal sex, fine. Anal is off the table. But she trusted and loved him enough to try it with him. "If she's not okay with trying to have anal sex again since it was horrifically painful for her the first time, fine. Anal sex is off the table. But he loved her and trusted her enough to believe her limits and not pressure her." There you have it. Why did she didn't want to break up with him?You don't do stuff like that to keep yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Oh good- you completely failed to. As I expected, carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?But in my opinion if there is mututal trust, both her and his trust will grow even more. .... Yeah okay the mutual trust is not as important as how she trusts him. That is true. So maybe they should find an activity that actually involves this "mutual trust"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?The difference is that deciding not to have anal means that the guy will never have anal sex in his whole life. At least if it's a serious relationship, not some kids playing house. That means if the guy really likes anal it will be a decision that affects him 24/7. If it is of that utmost importance to him he can break up with her and find a girl that enthusiastically loves anal. Simple as that. Some people are sexually incompatible. You're acting like this relationship is a prison he can't esc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:54 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?stop before it becomes painful. You continue to miss the point by such an incredibly wide margin I'm beginning to believe you might be blind. Many people are built so that anything going into their rectum is painful. It is an orifice designed to expel (feces, by the way, which, man... you being so into anal is just weird to me. Just deeply, deeply weird), not to receive. It doesn't matter how "slow" or "prepared" or "communicative" you are. It will hurt. So, nope- she isn't "wrong" to deny him t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?For many people it doesn't matter how much or how "right" you prep for anal, it still hurts. If that wasn't true there wouldn't be a huge number of gay men who don't partake in anal at all. Please, do explain that away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 07:06 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?You don't say? That is what makes it special and an act of incredible mutual trust. Please, do explain where this "incredible mutual trust" comes into play. Is there a chance that her asshole might grow teeth and bite your dick off? How is your body ever in danger or vulnerable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Of course not. Why would you care about what your SO desperately wants to have? Why would you care about what your SO desperately doesn't want to have? Caring loving relationship? Do research on how to best approach anal sex. Go so slow that it won't hurt. Take your time. Communicate a lot.Stop as soon as it becomes uncomfortable.Try again a few weeks later. Caring loving relationship? Do research on how anal sex actually affects the body. Shove a dildo up your own asshole to get a real feel for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?You're doing it wrong. You need to stop claiming this absolute utter bullshit as "fact"- it isn't. Anal sex is simply painful for a huge amount of people, even gay men. That's why a significant portion only engage in oral- yes, that's actually factual. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're desperately hamstering to enable yourself to feel okay about desiring something that, yes, is terribly painful for many--if not most--women. "I want to fuck girls in the ass so I should get to!!!!… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 06:48 AM |
| 1 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?i am not into doing such with women ...And she's not into doing such with men. So why the fuck is she required to in your mind? If you're exempt from doing so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong that I don't want to do anal with my boyfriend even though I did it with my ex?Are you truly missing this point? You're claiming that anal can feel just awesome (you promise!) yet you've never experienced it. You have an asshole. And -- bonus! -- yours has a prostate. A woman's asshole doesn't and is a lot smaller than yours. Many women find anal, yes even "properly done" anal, to be horrifically painful. Like, for instance, OP. You claim Your ex got anal, your boyfriend you love so much doesn't. Your ex won. How is performing a sex act on someone that is painful and horri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 06:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Can we quit it with the idea that all women are only putting up with blowing guys as an act of love and that super raunchy porn sex only works for men? Easily, considering that wasn't at all my argument. He's made comments about wanting rough, deepthroat blowjobs and anal. So I decided to -- correctly -- point out that he does nothing for her even approaching that level of pain and discomfort. Because he doesn't, yet sees nothing wrong with requesting those acts since he, you know, goes down on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:59 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The reason ED is so common....That's exactly what I'm trying to demonstrate to you: the acts you are asking for (rough deepthroat and anal) have no analogous acts on your part. You don't do anything even approaching the level of discomfort or pain you are requesting on her part. It's just so deeply fucked. I agree with the other poster that suggested finding a sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:56 AM |
| -1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Her favorite position gives me a back cramp that usually lasts a few days? Oh for fuck's sake. Yeah, getting a cramp because you can't figure out how to position your head is exactly analogous to having your airway blocked and triggering a choking response. I've spoken to enough women to know that many common sex positions (legs held open, back intensely arched, etc) leave them sore or with muscle cramps. Does my girlfriend need to go down on a girl for her to ask me to eat her out? Or does it o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?There would be mention of it somewhere, we'd see it in old movies, read it in books, etc etc. I mean, hell- Katharine was 31 to Cary's 38 in Bringing Up Baby. Vivien was 26 to Clark's 37 in Gone With the Wind. We'd expect to see some pairings of 16 year old actresses with older actors since this was "pre-shaming," according to you. Humbert, potentially the world's most famous pedophile, was raping Lolita until she was 16. Why would he be a pedophile if this is the "natural" state for men? That b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 03:24 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Now go find a girl who wants to be verbally abused while she chokes on your dick and it'll all be rainbows and kittens! Again: what do you do for her that is anything similar to this? What sexual act does she expect that involves blocking your airway and triggering a retching, vomiting response? Why do you deserve this from your partner? For being male? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:59 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.I notice you completely failed to answer this: Most women find anal sex to be painful and unenjoyable, so maybe the pornaholics of this generation should seek out gay men if putting it in the pooper is their ultimate goal. Why should she do something painful and uncomfortable for you? What do you do for her that is similarly painful? Why must the woman sacrifice her comfort and pleasure for the sake of the man's? Is that what you mean by "male sexuality"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Men vs women who go for a long time without a romanceOf course that's what they claim. The massive cognitive dissonance they must entertain, to be able to bitch endlessly about how easy and simple it is to date as a woman... and then turn around and absolutely balk at the idea of existing as a women. Females bear the burden of reproductive responsibility. That is why they are the sex that "gets to choose." That is why male mammals put on displays of strength and size and prowess to impress the females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?Funny, I don't think I said the median age was always 25. Oh, here's what I actually said: I've read ethnographies from hundreds of cultures... people got married and started families in their late teens or early 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?Because you're unable to back up your assertions with actual evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:31 AM |
| 2 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?You are arguing my point. My point is that a teenage girl can bear the most possible offspring, not necessarily the safest. I was aware of your points writing my comment. Then your point is flawed and you have a shaky grasp on evolutionarily beneficial mating strategies. Hint: don't choose a mate most likely to die during pregnancy or birth. Apparently, in gatherer hunter societies, girls lack developed traits until 16 or so. I highly doubt men would want to bang teenagers without these traits Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?It's impossible to miss them, you're in nearly every thread. I'm just pointing to the fact that you continually make assertions based on nothing but your own, unverifiable supposed personal experience. It doesn't add anything of substance to the debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:24 AM |
| 1 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?"she does less for her ultimate partner, her husband than she did for her previous bf?" Because that's a load of horseshit. When you're young, you try things, to see if you like them or because you feel pressured to. The women in the op stated explicitly it was the second scenario. How does that make him her "ultimate" partner? Because she felt compelled to do things she didn't want to? Is that how you want your partners to feel? Forced into things they find painful or uncomfortable out of the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?All I see is this: "only 25% of women aged 20–24 were married while to the east of the line, over 75% of women in this age group were married." Which is exactly in line with what I've said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?Right, I have also heard that late marriage (after age 21 or thereabouts) was an innovation in societies within the Hajnal line in Western Europe after ~1200 AD, and that early marriage was more characteristic of Eastern Europe and non-Western societies. I linked my source, so perhaps you could link your citations? I've read ethnographies from hundreds of cultures... people got married and started families in their late teens or early 20s. This lines up with when it would be physiologically feas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:38 PM |
| 0 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?You constantly make these claims and back them up with absolutely zero verifiable facts. It's a bit tiring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:33 PM |
| 2 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Sure it does. It's all part of the conversation. Strange to me that rpers continually dismiss anything that they are incapable of refuting as "unrelated." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?No problem. It's endlessly mind-boggling to me that people use a histrionic, overly dramatic, purposefully titillating work of fiction as "proof" of young marriage. You are definitely not the only one. That's why "cougars" of both genders are targeting the very young. In fact, they're incarcerated as "statutory rapists" or "pedophiles" when it involves 16 year olds in most states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:28 PM |
| 2 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?I am not, but I can imagine that some are designed to give physical stimulation while fucking someone in the ass. Still, the dominace part would be way more important, because the physical part that she receives would be less than using a vibrator for example. Most decent strap-ons involve a vibrator. And you're still ignoring the pleasure she gets from giving him some of the most intense orgasms of his life. Which is exactly what prostate stimulation does... it's almost like men are built to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:26 PM |
| 2 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Sure, it works both ways based on the logic of rpers. "My ex let me do this, if you don't I'll just next you and find someone who will." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:15 PM |
| 0 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?I'll just copy and paste my other response: Actually, birth in the years directly following puberty are the most dangerous for both mother and infant. Pregnancy under 15 has the highest rates of mother and infant mortality, birth complications, and issues during pregnancy. And the only reason girls are getting pregnant so young today? The average age of menarche has plummeted since the early 1900s. Menarche (the very first menstrual cycle) occurred at about 16 historically. 80% of cycles in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?Actually, birth in the years directly following puberty are the most dangerous for both mother and infant. Pregnancy under 15 has the highest rates of mother and infant mortality, birth complications, and issues during pregnancy. And the only reason girls are getting pregnant so young today? The average age of menarche has plummeted since the early 1900s. Menarche (the very first menstrual cycle) occurred at about 16 historically. 80% of cycles in the year following menarche are anovulatory to p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?I'm not an utter imbecile, so nope... doesn't really apply to me :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?Nope. Try again. Shakespeare made them so young to highlight the 'foreignness' of the love affair (set in far away Italy). Actual historic marriage rate at the time? Put the average age of marriage for women at 25-26 and men at 27-28. But hey, I'm interested in actual, verifiable stats and not revisionist bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:05 PM |
| 1 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Well, this is highly hypothetical. I don't think that many women are into pegging, because there is no physical stimulation for her in it You're not familiar with the construction of most strap-ons, eh? and that means it's just about dominance. What is anal sex about for most men? It's painfully tight at the sphincter and balloons out immediately afterwards. And women don't have a prostate... I know that sexual fetishes don't necessarily depend on your personality, but in the case of pegging, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 04:57 PM |
| 1 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?You are right. I think it's as easy as that. Oh, so if you dated a woman who loved plowing her ex in the ass with a huge strap-on and then making him choke on it, you'd be totes cool with doing that for her? Neat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 04:55 PM |
| 5 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?"Gosh, I never considered women were sold the same lukewarm, idiotic, clearly fairytale lies about 'inner beauty' trumping physical appearance. I'm definitely not going to admit that my rage at believing this utter bullshit is my own fault, and not some great femconspiracy, though." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 05:40 PM |
| 3 | Unattractive women of PPD, what's your social/love life like?this is also the genesis of the shaming of the natural male preference for 16 yr olds What are you basing this assertion on? It is based on literally zero actual, verfiable science. Female fertility peaks between 23 years to 31 years of age, with most women experiencing their most fertile years around age 27 or 28. There is no biological or physiological reason males would "prefer" girls of 16. So why on earth do you continually claim this? It's really, really odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 05:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: if women are incapable of thinking rationally, they shouldn't be held responsible for their actionsHow does that disprove gregarious' point in the least? (If we're being generous and assuming your assertion holds any water.) To restate using your assertion: "Countries with the strongest economies, highest quality of life, peaceful civic existence, etc have all embraced female autonomy. Countries with the weakest economies, lowest quality of life, constant warfare, etc have all attempted to quash female autonomy." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 04:54 PM |
| 7 | Dominance does not mean domineering. It means a man's mastery and control over himself.Rp loves to redefine words. Maybe they think it helps their arguments somehow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 04:40 PM |
| 1 | BP: What's so wrong about masculinity?How on earth do you figure that? How is it not controlling and, well, laughably idiotic to "not allow" your spouse to take part in a harmless, fun activity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 04:39 PM |
| 1 | BP: What's so wrong about masculinity?It's just strange that enjoying an activity has to come with such conflating feelings in the first place. "Conflicting" is the word you're looking for here. "Conflating" is a verb, not an adjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 04:35 PM |
| 1 | BP: What's so wrong about masculinity?convince women to get wet for guys who don't lift, don't learn game, and don't have ambition. This is the grand deceit of rpers: pretend the issues with rp beliefs are the sane, common sense advice you can find literally everywhere. Rp does not have a monopoly on this advice, as much as they desperately pretend they do. Being as physically attractive and healthy as possible, being ambitious, having social confidence and charm (what I assume 'game' here is a shorthand for) is the most straightfor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 04:33 PM |
| 1 | BP: What's so wrong about masculinity?What exactly is your logic here? "No actions are bad actions because everyone has free will"? "It's impossible for people to control or abuse another person because everyone has autonomy"? What precisely are you trying to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/15 04:23 PM |
| 3 | BP/RP: Why are generalizations bad about women, but OK when men are involved?Your reply doesn't make sense because I wasn't telling you not to say something. That's odd, because just above you say: "There's no need for butthurt women to chime in "not me", "no woman I know is like that", "I'm a speshul snowflake", etc. We know it doesn't mean all you dimwits." What else would "there's no need" mean here, exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 09:54 PM |
| -1 | BP/RP: Why are generalizations bad about women, but OK when men are involved?Women are pathetic? Or is pair binding with roles pathetic? Or is it 2000 years of Western Civilization? Was that pathetic? That misspelling of 'bonding' really says it all. Priceless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Hard BPers, what is your opinion of /r/thankTRP?In fact there are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study finds more skilled male gamers are more positive towards women, less skilled male gamers are more negative towards womenMaybe someday... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?We already know all women are whores, technically speaking. Oh, do we? Perhaps you could point to some research. Most guys are less physically attractive to the women, but given time, such hesitation fades. There was even a study on it. http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/releases/longer-acquaintance-levels-the-romantic-playing-field.html I guess you somehow missed entirely that the acquaintance-first goggles applied to both genders in the study? Also, do note that the OK Cupid "s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 10:54 PM |
| 0 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?2012 analysis of a survey of 8,953 people in 37 countries, which found that the more gender-equal a country, the likelier male and female respondents were to report seeking the same qualities as each other rather than different ones. Like, perhaps, youth and attractiveness? Did you read the wiki article or just link it? It's how primates are wired, let alone fucking humans. It's older than our species. You continually make demonstrably wrong assertions. Our closest primate relatives actually go … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?How on earth is it misogynist to say that people like money, and some people are willing to marry a physically unattractive person to get access to it? There are men that do this too! Gay and straight. You keep posting strange examples as if they prove anything at all. They really, really don't. Humans require a physically attractive person to be physically attracted. It's a really straightforward concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study finds more skilled male gamers are more positive towards women, less skilled male gamers are more negative towards womenNice. I really respect that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study finds more skilled male gamers are more positive towards women, less skilled male gamers are more negative towards womenI'm actually pretty happy about it, for the exact same reason. Previously I was just answering like with like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study finds more skilled male gamers are more positive towards women, less skilled male gamers are more negative towards womenI do understand this. But you'll forgive me if I was under the impression that 'borderline' comments (like my earlier one where I said two rpers were "mindlessly patting each other on the back") were acceptable. Just take a look at this thread! Have you reported the rpers personally attacking /u/taiboworks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:31 PM |
| 0 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?We kn ow this is the case because studies of hypergamy in women are cross cultural. Women in ALL cultures are hypergamic. That is... simply untrue. "Guys in all cultures prefer youth" As do women. After all, young men are stronger, faster, have better coordination, better sperm quality, amazingly short (or nonexistent) refraction periods, etc etc. Society and its attendant concepts of "wealth" and "status," which are more easily accumulated with time, has meant that women (who were historically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study finds more skilled male gamers are more positive towards women, less skilled male gamers are more negative towards womenI reported his comment as a "personal attack", as well as all the others I saw insulting you in this thread. It will be interesting to see if they are deleted by the mods. I was told explicitly by /u/hyperrreal that a lack of civility and personal attacks are against the rules. I know it's okay to announce this, as /u/atlas_b_shruggin did the same multiple times without issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:20 PM |
| 0 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?Afterall, who REALLY gets bent out of shape when women say "Men follow their cocks" or that "Men are often socially inept" or that "A lot of young men are peurile and stuck in retarded development states dfue to porn and computer games". I do. I very much take issue with any statement that reduces billions of people to a sad, one-dimensional, bullshit stereotype. Rpers are apparently fine with it-- when it's about women. It's not pain and bitterness and wishful thinking... It's just basic honest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 04:13 PM |
| 0 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?Ah yes, of course you agree. "Women are actually fucking awful hypergamous 'cock carousel' riding child-idiots!" That's hate talking. That's misogyny talking. That's bitterness and pain and wishful thinking talking. That is not reality talking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?I didn't downvote ya, for the record! I just thought it was a strange example. she is almost half his age She's actually 30 (this September) to his 44 (birthday in late June). So only about 14 years younger- which I'll agree is a gap, but a far cry from "half his age." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 03:55 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Interesting. I wonder why it seems to have such an effect on some women's psychological health? For example PMDD. Is there a similar disorder for males? Oh, yeah there are loads of hormonal imbalances that can affect men terribly. I think we talk about it less because women have historically been the "emotional/hysterical" sex, so PMDD fits the cultural narrative much better. Because why would a relatively less-intense hormone disruption have a seemingly larger impact on one's mental state? PMDD… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?That's so offensive. At least half the blue pill is swearing by their lard-bucket nerdy husbands and boyfriends. Or they are of similar attractiveness and the beer bellies aren't a turnoff for them? But a HB10 that's sincerely attracted to her 55 year old, balding, paunchy, viagra-gobbling, but rich husband? That's downright hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 03:43 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?The highest daily fluctuation of estradiol is only a 1.3 fold increase for women. The monthly variation is 6 fold. So, yeap- women are more stable hormonally. Now who woulda thunk! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?lots of women simply arent aware of what they are attracted to. I imagine telling yourself that makes it easier to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?That is about the weirdest example you could use. Tallulah Riley is pretty, but certainly not stunning. And Elon Musk is definitely a fine looking dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 12:38 AM |
| 6 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?What does that prove? That people like money and all its attendant perks. It doesn't prove sincere sexual attraction. Not in the slightest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?It's all good. TRP is one of the few places men can vent those feelings. I don't think the sub would ever close their doors to them. But they aren't venting and getting helpful feedback. They are venting and being told "yeah, you're right- women are fucking awful hypergamous "cock carousel" riding child-idiots." That's not healthy, nor is it factual. It's a hate-filled echochamber. I really don't understand the appeal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:36 PM |
| 4 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Even if it is true that women don't get to feelings until they first get to sexual attraction, that is IRRELEVANT to the content of the post. It has nothing to do with the post. Then I'm still unclear as to why you brought it up as a point of difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:35 PM |
| 6 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Grid, men have a minimum hotness level that must be satisfied for sex to take place (because a boner must be achieved). Sure, women can use lube and feign orgasm if you're not actually attractive to her. But is that actual "stimulation"? I'm gonna go with a hard no. No it is not. As much as rp likes to pretend, women aren't turned on by "status." Physical attraction has to be present first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:21 PM |
| 4 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?It's just a data point of one. I think nearly all men feel butterflies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:19 PM |
| 0 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Men DON'T "do it too". Men don't "get butterflies". Sure they do. You don't, apparently. But you're only one man. And it's irrelevant to the question, which was to men, which was "would you rather date a former slut who you like; or a virgin you feel nothing for?" That's funny, the question I'm reading at the top of the page explicity says: "Would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Yes, falling in love. But it's not butterflies. Oh? Actual science would beg to differ. I think I know more about this than you do (you know, being a guy and all). You could be a 3 ft alien. It's the internet, and I really doubt you'd prove it either way. More importantly you don't have any idea what my gender is. Perhaps, but what women need to feel love is irrelevant to the post. It just doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with anything. You keep claiming entirely relevant things have no rele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:09 PM |
| 3 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Seeing as rp is based on innate differences between the sexes, I'd say it's a great counterpoint. Now, do you have an actual response? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:07 PM |
| 5 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?And they "don't make our hearts skip" or give us 'butterflies'. It's a more contented feeling. The Eagles sang about it. Peaceful, easy feeling. We men don't swoon and require fainting couches. We just feel content, easy, at peace, in harmony with life and the world. Elsewhere you mention that media isn't reality. I pointed to actual biological processes; you're using a song as proof. So I'll go a bit more slowly for you: Men are absolutely capable of meeting two similarly attractive women and f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?With you up until here. Thats our demographic. We take in those hurt, angry and lost males... and turn them into happy men who acheive their goals. You claim to do this. But the angry, bitter, hateful posts by "endorsed contributors" supposedly past this "anger phase" paint a very different picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:46 PM |
| 0 | Who the hell is Chad Thundercock ?EDIT: All due respect, "Men Do It Too" is irrelevant because (1) no they don't; and (2) this is about Chad. ...It's not irrelavant to point out that this Chad figure has an analogous "HB10 Betty" for men. You're claiming men don't pine for that person when, well, most media (literature, movies, tv shows, etc) directly contradicts your claim. People do this. And it's absolutely relevant to point that out. It is a human behavior, but rp pathologizes it as something deeply wrong with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?And she doesn't? What are you arguing here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:36 PM |
| 11 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Women do not make our hearts skip and give us butterflies. This may be true for you, which makes me feel badly. Honestly, everyone deserves to experience that feeling- it's delicious. But I can promise you that the majority of men will feel this in their lives. It's a biological process- the gut contains millions of neurons tying it to the brain and these "butterfly flutters" are a sign of actual biological processes- most likely regulated by the medial insula. So, nope, it's not BS only women "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:29 PM |
| -1 | Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?Gosh, that sounds wildly improbable. Have fun with that boys! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:24 PM |
| 0 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemI agree. It's refreshing to have a conversation where you don't threaten to report me for some conceived slight! Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemBut that's just a load of bullshit. Peak fertility lays somewhere around 27 or 28 for most women (the range of peak fertility falls from 23-31). So why would the "bloom be off the rose" before most women hit their peak fertility? That makes no biological sense! It's almost like it was made up by bitter men on the internet... You can still easily conceive a baby well into your late 30s (check out the modern birth rates by the mother's age). This supposed 'Wall' is a weird wet-dream shared by sad … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemShow me men that deny this. People age. All people. Men experience declines in sperm health too, starting in their 30s (Gasp! Just like women!!!). We all become less fertile and less attractive. But most people don't fall apart because they're no longer 25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemAnd what of all the reports, literature, articles, etc of women who have enjoyed growing older and experiencing life? Do they not count because they don't fit your narrative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemBut I haven't observed that and I also live in "THE WORLD." Why do you think your anecdotal experience holds more water? As another poster said earlier: it is only a very small portion of women who experience this harrowing process of becoming invisible, and it's because they have nothing to offer apart from youth. On top of that, they aged very poorly and weren't actually beautiful to begin with. Just young. *Oh, you edited well after the fact- another trollish behavior you love. "no man ever l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemFunny, I've seen gorgeous women her age still turning heads. Hell, I've looked! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemI am wondering why this comment was deleted: "I love this exchange of you two mindlessly patting yourselves on the back for being such superior, self-actualized males. Meanwhile -- here in reality -- there are literally hundreds of millions of more successful, talented, wealthy, charitable, game-changing women than you." https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3dtp9q/should_women_lie_about_their_partner_count/ct8u73e Was it the 'mindlessly'? Because otherwise, there's not even a hint … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:10 PM |
| 0 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemI appreciate it. And I understand the rationale, thanks for explaining why it needed to be altered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemSo this is your personal experience? That your husband loves you less now that you're older and no longer youthful and attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemAgainst an unnamed group at large? Seems pretty impersonal to me. But I edited for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 02:59 PM |
| -1 | Should women lie about their partner count ?So, which part of my post is the "personal attack" that you're referring to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 12:11 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Women have it easier in the dating arena and are largely oblivious to it or in denial.Wheel's still spinning furiously, I see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 12:00 AM |
| -1 | Should women lie about their partner count ?...For stating a statistical fact? Try harder Atlas! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:56 PM |
| -4 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemAw, a cop out? Who woulda thunk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:50 PM |
| -5 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemPersonal attack against whom, exactly? It says rather a lot that you're stalking my post history to lodge bogus complaints... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:50 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women have it easier in the dating arena and are largely oblivious to it or in denial.And now you're hamstering that because you find yourself funny, other people must. Does the hamstering never cease? :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:11 PM |
| -4 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemThis whole thread is a riot. Does aging suck in the respect that you lose certain youthful qualities? Certainly. Is the actual issue that women have been raised to believe their primary worth lies in their fuckability? Abso-fucking-lutely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:07 PM |
| -3 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemFind me an example of women using this terminology pre-manosphere. Please and thank you :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:05 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women have it easier in the dating arena and are largely oblivious to it or in denial.Oh for shame- now you're hamstering that my comment was sincere enjoyment of your wit, instead of the mocking it very clearly was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 11:02 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Well gosh- as the variation is spread out over a month it's still far more "stable" than that of male hormones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 10:59 PM |
| -3 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemITT: a bunch of rpers pretending that "the wall" signifies the gradual affects of aging. For fuck's sake, it's in the goddamn name: slamming into "the wall" implies anything but a gradual decline. Idiotic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 10:56 PM |
| -7 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemFunny how you leave out the endless number of top posts that make this claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 10:53 PM |
| -2 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemHow on earth do you figure? If these "uggo bpers" who were essentially "born at the wall" still managed to find happiness, you really think it's going to be hard for an aging beauty? You think men don't still check out Andie Macdowell and Diane Lane regularly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Famous Feminist Hits Real Wall, Cat Calls Stop, Misses ThemShe may be doing everything she can imagine to make her man happy but if he loses attraction for any reason, then it is for naught. And the exact same is true if you reverse genders. So what exactly is your point here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 10:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have it easier in the dating arena and are largely oblivious to it or in denial.Please don't ever accuse me of hamstering. Call me a serial rapist or child molester or wimp or hitler for all I care, but don't assume I am hamstering. If at any time you think I am hamstering in a comment, read my comment again and you'll see that I am not. Hahahahaha oh my god you guys are priceless. This is satire, right? Oh man it's gotta be. Too good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Any BPers who can relate to the life experiences of TRPers?Except that 'wealth' is a social construct, and you can't horde nearly all food or meat (it, uh, rots). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?"Also, each young man showed a significant circadian rhythm in non-SHBG-T, with a group mean daily variation of 1.42 +/- 0.38 nM/l." That's a huge variation, about a 4 fold difference over the course of a day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 08:00 PM |
| 5 | BP Men: Would you date a woman that weighed more than you? BP Women: Would you date a man that was shorter than you?The BMI metric works, I suppose, since it takes sex differences into account. Take a cursory look at this graph: if the average heights of men and women are on average at least 5 inches different, how on earth does it prove anything that the women here have a low percentage of shorter male partners? It's because there are so few men shorter than they are. Make a guess as to how likely it would be for a woman to find an attractive mate in this already exceedingly small pool. That said, many women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/15 11:28 PM |
| 1 | The most common problem between TRP and TBP?The issue isn't that you're using a model, or even that you attempt to organize the variability inherent in a sea of individuals (yes, even those individuals with vaginas) through generalizations. It's that we think your model is horseshit based on a collective wet dream of male superiority, revenge fantasies, and laughable pseudoscience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 10:59 PM |
| 4 | TRP dread vs. TBP standards.The beard almost hides your weak chin. Almost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Why am I pedophile for wanting to fuck 18 year olds?...Exactly. Plenty of smart, shitty as fuck dads out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?They do not look like children to me, and I am a woman. Neoteny in the face causes love and protectiveness. Neoteny in the face doesnt stimulate sexual attraction, physically mature bodies bodies. Those girls look hard and mature, not remotely childlike I do not agree that a man being aroused by either is a pedophile If you can't agree that those little girls look like the children they are, we're done here. And frankly, I fear for any children you might have. How are their bodies "mature"? You'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 12:06 AM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Here, just for fun, is a picture of Britain's youngest mother, Jenny Teague, when she gave birth at age 12. Here's Scotland's youngest mother, Teresa Middleton, with her freshly birthed baby at 11 years old. Tell me, how old do those faces look to you? They were able to successfully birth a child and yet look -- gosh! -- like the children they are. Show me the adult men that want to fuck them and I'll show you pedophiles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Oh, I'd be glad to! If a human female has gone through puberty it is an adult. There is no such thing as a "teenager" and the chronological age is irrelevant. Please, do make up your mind as to what your argument here actually is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:45 PM |
| 0 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?Ah yes, the fallacy of asking rp to actually support their arguments with facts and science. That ol' chestnut. You're attempting to discredit my argument on the basis of, what, exactly? That you find me meeeeaaaaan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:41 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Dear lord you are tiresome. Here, I'll helpfully repeat what I just said for you: "Due to any number of frightening reasons (I vote BGH), girls are experiencing menarche as early as 8. They absolutely look like children in face and stature, but, yes, often have breasts and likely (since pubic hair nearly always develops earlier than breasts during puberty) body hair." I have included breasts, periods, and pubic hair in the equation repeatedly. It was you who insisted on including hips. Are hips … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:38 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?This fictional seemingly manga inspired teeny tiny little childlike baby 10 year old with fully developed hips, breast, and a menstrual cycle exists in your head, not reality. ...You've never worked with kids, huh? Due to any number of frightening reasons (I vote BGH), girls are experiencing menarche as early as 8. They absolutely look like children in face and stature, but, yes, often have breasts and likely (since pubic hair nearly always develops earlier than breasts during puberty) body hair… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:25 PM |
| 8 | Why am I pedophile for wanting to fuck 18 year olds?I can't fuck your personality and your intelligence and regardless of social conditioning this aphorism applies to every single man alive today. A college degree, a well paying job and a certain worldiness about you won't make you a better mate in the eyes of a man....The two basic things that do matter on an instinctual level are looks and charm. One makes up for the other and to a man who hasn't spent the better part of his youth thirsting they are the only two things by which you'll be judged… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:18 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?I said breasts, hips, pubic hair and a period. Stop changing what I'm saying. Is a human male who is attracted to a human female with ....Okay, I'll ask the question again: is a ten year old with pubic hair, hips and breasts attached to a tiny body and a child's face arousing? Are periods arousing? Periods mark the very beginning of puberty. You keep missing this point over and over and over. A "ped"ophile, aka "attracted to children"? Irrespective of the irrelevant chronological age "Irrelevant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:04 PM |
| 0 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?Oh for fuck's sake, have we interacted before? This is a debate sub- if I'm here and see a new, top post I'm going to read and respond to it. Kinda sad your only answer to my comment is an absurd ad hom :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:01 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Is it Pedophilia for a normal human male to be aroused by a post pubescent human female with fully developed secondary sex characteristics? "Fully developed" indicates that the process of puberty is complete. We've already established that this occurs around 16-17 except in rare cases. Is a ten year old with pubic hair and breasts attached to a tiny body and a child's face arousing? You tell me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 09:39 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Adolescence is the biological stage between childhood and adulthood. An outlier that experiences sexual maturation early is still not an adult- they haven't matured physically or mentally otherwise. Fertility is not the sole marker of adulthood, nor should it be. Especially when you're arguing about statistically improbable cases (ie the 13 year old able to successfully carry a baby to term). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 08:24 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?So we should ignore that they aren't anywhere near physically or mentally mature otherwise? Because they are an outlier that started puberty at 8? What is your argument here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 08:10 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Congratulations, you've found the wikipedia entry! And somehow entirely missed this: "Girls have usually reached full physical development by ages 15–17,[3][20][42] while boys usually complete puberty by ages 16–17.[20][42][43] " So, most people reach maturation by 17. Gosh, that seems a little older than 12 or 13, no? Using your logic from earlier, "If a human female has gone through puberty it is an adult" that would make people reproductively mature 'adults' around 17, if we completely ignore… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?I'm asking you to clarify your position; you appear to be unable to do this. Adolescence is a recognized biological state marked by the process of puberty. 1 2 3 4 That's from the first handful of results from a lazy google search. You're welcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Wait, what is your argument? That physical markers alone define 'adulthood'? Or is it that the completion of puberty defines adulthood? That is, after all, what you claimed just earlier: If a human female has gone through puberty it is an adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:53 PM |
| 0 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?"However, when age is categorized, there were no significant differences between sexual orientation groups. " Do you even bother taking a cursory glance at the things you cite? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?You do realize that "puberty" is an ongoing process, yes? It is literally what defines adolescence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?...Are you being serious? I honestly can't tell at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:48 PM |
| -1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?The sample size was 87 lesbians. Congratulations, your stat is meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Obviously a 13 year old isn't fully developed but they are still able to get pregnant. And earlier: But it wasn't unusual for 13 year old women to get married and pregnant in ancients times. Physically once a women is able to bear children they were considered mature. And I'm telling you -- using actual, verifiable facts -- that the age when they were able to "bear children" (your argument, friend!) was roughly around 17-18. Well golly gosh gee whiz, who woulda thunk? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?You're embarrassingly lazy, but I'll relink it here for posterity's sake: "This 2014 article (which cites peer-reviewed studies, Reuters, and Pew) found that working women still do the lion's share of housework and childcare." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:39 PM |
| 4 | Harassment via PM will be Considered a StrikeHahahahahahahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:36 PM |
| 4 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Thanks for that- now I know the sample size was 87 lesbians. That says a whole lot of... nothing. It says nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Nope, he's wrong. Men's hormonal cycle is much shorter- roughly 24 hours, which means wild fluctuations are a daily event. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:28 PM |
| -2 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?It's the difference between being inherently stable (man) and learning to stay upright on a balance board. I would hardly say women stop maturing, they build tools and find ways to cope with that chemical deluge, and if anything that makes them -more- mature for overcoming a challenge. Good god you lot ignore science to an insane degree! Men have a hormone cycle which fluctuates wildly on a daily basis instead of a monthly basis. Who's stable, now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?Teenager = adolescent. It is absolutely a biological state of development. Dear lord your tenuous grasp of science is disturbing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?A TEENAGER is a biological adult. Not a CHILD, it is a young, fresh, inexperienced, impetuous, passionate, playful and somewhat immature adult with low future time orientation , but it's an adult. Well that is entirely at odds with actual science. Or does the reality of brain and physical maturation not matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?My source is magnitudes better. You lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?It's not, don't worry. They just desperately want a reason to believe they're not freaks for wanting to fuck 12 year olds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Can we clarify the "women are eternal teenagers" theory once and for all ?This is demonstrably untrue. Menarche occurred much, much later than it does in modern times (think 15-16 rather than 12-13): the average age of menarche has steadily decreased over time. In the year immediately following menarche 80% of cycles are anovulatory. 50% are still anovulatory in the third year. Adolescents age 15 through 19 are twice as likely to die during pregnancy or child birth as those over age 20; girls under age 15 are five times more likely to die. Controlling for risk factors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Are TRP the true misandrists?To create something of worth? To better the world or at least your community? Suffering from a one-minded drive for sex and sex alone is about the furthest from "rational" you can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 12:33 AM |
| -1 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?For the plebes. Sounds like you wish you were a dude in higher chip value range. Oh, I think it very much is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 12:31 AM |
| 4 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?Also, what the fuck have you linked to as your evidence? An undergrad business school "working paper"? Oy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?And this 2014 article (which cites peer-reviewed studies, Reuters, and Pew) found that working women still do the lion's share of housework and childcare. Might trust that just a hair more than a "working paper" published by The Federal Reserve Bank of San Fran. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 12:09 AM |
| -1 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?Aw you're ruining his ad hom argument! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?Actually, it appears she's asking rp to support their argument with data. Which is, you know, what debate subs are kinda about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/15 12:03 AM |
| 3 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?It's a transitional period- women are still working the "Second Shift" in addition to holding a full time position. Anyone would be unhappy with that. But it'll change- and soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:55 PM |
| 0 | Why can't TRP let go off their revenge fantasies?Hahaha do they truly believe this horseshit? Oh christ. Always good for a laugh, at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Why don't TRPillers admit that dread game works on a lot of men too ?"Somebody on the internet wasn't properly grateful to me and kinda sorta maybe insulted me indirectly waaaahhhhh!!!!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:50 PM |
| 0 | Are TRP the true misandrists?Booty is the only goal of rationality Oh? According to whom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:48 PM |
| 0 | Are TRP the true misandrists?Oh, so it's only the penises attached to assholes that ruin women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Are TRP the true misandrists?Aw, don't make him think too hard! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Are TRP the true misandrists?I consider myself cognitively more adept than my wife and most of my female friends. But they have "emotional intelligence" in spades. The reality is that you are choosing to surround yourself with these women. Not that women are inherently less intelligent. Now that a larger proportion are educated, women are surpassing men in average IQ. They have long surpassed them in terms of what you've deemed "emotional intelligence." Pretty killer combo. Hell, heritable intelligence is X-chromosome linke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Are TRP the true misandrists?I'd love to have deep conversations with my partner, but she isn't interested, or possibly, capable, so I don't. The fuck are you dating an idiot for? It's your own damn fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:30 PM |
| 0 | Are TRP the true misandrists?This assumes that women don't pursue casual sex with hotties because they enjoy the thrill and "tingles." Whither art thou, oh Chad the most Thundercocked? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:28 PM |
| 0 | Are TRP the true misandrists?Huh.... rather sounds like you're saying your emotions are overriding your ability to think and behave rationally. Well, how about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Are TRP the true misandrists?You are claiming objectivity with no leg to stand on. Your views aren't magically objective because you happen to hold them. Good grief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/15 11:07 PM |
| 1 | If you're in a male same-sex marriage, it's 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than a heterosexual marriage. If you're in a female same-sex marriage, this figure soars to 167 percent. Looking for BP thinking on this.I don't think you read these very closely... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 01:57 AM |
| -1 | If the cock carousel is a part of most women's lives, then why is the average sexual partner number for Americans so low?Where did I even insinuate that? I hope you're good enough with numbers to recognize that there's a lot of wiggle room between ~0% and 50%. Oh, just here, where you insinuate the sex tourism industry isn't nearly 100% male (when surprise! it definitely is): "Wrong, there is a growing sex tourism industry for women as well - they just don't travel to Thailand or the European prostitution hubs, but to Africa or Jamaica." So, ya know, don't make claims you can't back up. Speaking of... a puff piece… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 01:39 AM |
| 3 | "6 foot hunk ex-pro rugby league player" marries partying female flight attendant in her mid thirties with a man in every portI agree this woman particularly is an outlier (her lifestyle, the rugby player, etc) but I really don't think it's all that difficult for pretty, in-shape 35 year old women to find attractive longterm partners. Honestly, I've seen it all the time. I do tend to live in large cities though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 04:52 PM |
| 2 | "6 foot hunk ex-pro rugby league player" marries partying female flight attendant in her mid thirties with a man in every portExcept this assumes a fit, attractive 35 year old woman has roughly the same SMP value as a 60 year old overweight man? That seems... misguided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 04:41 PM |
| 3 | Thought experiment for women:Hilariously, you defend the extraordinarily sexist, gendered language of the red pill as "a general guideline". Tsk, tsk. You can't even pretend to be consistent. The OP was asking women to imagine a "stay at home dad," u/TheChemist158 responded using OP's language. Unbunch your briefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 04:38 PM |
| -1 | If the cock carousel is a part of most women's lives, then why is the average sexual partner number for Americans so low?Provide verifiable stats that this phenomenon is anywhere near the numbers of the traditional, male dominated sex tourism industry. Hell, provide stats that it is growing at anywhere near the rate of the traditional sex tourism industry. Provide any data that demonstrates women are visiting countries with rampant trafficking to - let's not put too fine a point on it - rape underage girls as young as 6. Please, do provide these numbers. We'll wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/15 04:21 PM |
| 0 | Does the "cock carousel"/promiscuity change women? How so?Dear lord, you're even too lazy to come up with your own insult? Keep parroting these unverified, bullshit claims. You're only making yourself look stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 05:07 PM |
| 0 | Does the "cock carousel"/promiscuity change women? How so?Nope- you made this claim, you back it up. The fact that you lazily point to google tells me all I need to know: you're full to the gills of utter, unverified bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 04:57 PM |
| 0 | A thread from TRP that piqued my interest.You've never seen women reference inside jokes? ...Sure, bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 04:56 PM |
| -2 | Does the "cock carousel"/promiscuity change women? How so?Saying that she's inherently shitty is implying she's a "special snowflake"? How invested in this religion are you? Isn't recognizing that people (which includes women, I know you lot often choose to forget this) are often just shitty a "red pill troof"? Yet another piece of common sense rp has co-opted as proprietary. Please, do link this study that finds a correlation between partner count and "jadedness." I'll wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 04:28 PM |
| -1 | Does the "cock carousel"/promiscuity change women? How so?This might be too "out there" for you, but have you ever considered she may just have been a shitty person? Not transformed that way by cocks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Does the "cock carousel"/promiscuity change women? How so?Masturbation often increases sensitivity for women, depending on what methods are used. Sure, if a woman uses high-powered vibrators on a nightly basis there's a chance it will affect her sensitivity. Exactly as it will for a guy who uses a death-grip to jack off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 12:33 AM |
| 0 | Red pill women where do you go your own way from red pill or the male red pill?You really hate gay people, huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/15 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]You misinterpreted: "I have happy and healthy sexual relationships" Do you believe the above is true for the women you date? "I know it's true. Obviously, they tell me they're happy, but more than that, I'm not blind; I can see it in their demeanor." I was asking if you felt that the rp core beliefs (because that's EXACTLY what they are) as summarized by u/cherryblue12 applied to the women you date. I'll link directly from your sidebar, and then you can backpedal and try to doublespeak away the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/15 02:31 AM |
| 7 | Revenge Porn laws only serve to protect women from the consequences of their bad decisions, reminding us once again that women have no agency and should be treated like children.Hahaha he can't even respond! Fucking golden. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 05:17 AM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallI provided studies to back up my assertions- where are yours? Rather seems like you're the one that lacks reason... You're unable to refute my claims because mine are provable whereas yours are based on the rp wet dream of male superiority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 07:33 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallAw, no response, greasy? How sadly predictable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Men Not "Figuring It Out For Themselves"She didn't seem to understand that men have no interest in how smart women are, and that they don't read your profile anyway. This is also not true at all. I think you've swung way too far on the pedulum in the opposite direction of your parents. People desire attractive mates. They also desire interesting, talented mates. People admire value in others. Male and female both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 06:55 PM |
| 0 | Men Not "Figuring It Out For Themselves"Now, we all know that big boobs are practically a requirement for most men. She promised me that only "shallow" men cared. That is not at all true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Western Women are more privileged than MenExcellent takedown. I'd only alter this one: "I have a department of women’s health whereas men have no such department... My gender enjoys more government spending on health than males do." Maybe if men's rights activists spent more time and resources on this than having aneurisms over Tumblr posts, this would be different. I'd say it's because historically all medical procedures, testing, pharmaceuticals, etc were practiced on or developed using the male body and only the male body as the temp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 06:46 PM |
| 1 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]Please do- I'd love to hear those tenets defended. And I'm curious what your "healthy relationships" look like, based on your belief system. But I'm going to be very clear, here. This? you'll ignore what I say and continue to believe whatever you want to believe about TRP. Ain't gonna fly. Every single one of the tenets listed above is sidebar, endorsed rp. This isn't me "choosing to believe whatever" about rp, it is me actively reading the materials your religion provides. It is precisely what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 05:45 AM |
| 0 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]I don't think I was? I've been commenting for a spell, but not terribly long. Either way, I'll try to forgo personal insults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Why is "Slut-shaming" such a bad thing now, especially towards feminists and Blue Pill minded people?Oh it's definitely not. I wasn't agreeing with him about that, or anything. A buzzword would be something like ..."millennials" or similar, using the definition I gave above. I hadn't heard of your definition- interesting! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/15 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Why is "Slut-shaming" such a bad thing now, especially towards feminists and Blue Pill minded people?He can't respond because you nailed it on the head. But you're wrong re: buzzwords. They're just currently culturally popular words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 11:01 PM |
| 4 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]TRP is very obviously not about blaming others Fascinating assertion, when your core tenets include the following: "TRP dehumanizes women by emphasizing that women are not only different, but fundamentally inferior to men: Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions. Men are adults while women are children. Men are capable of unconditional, self-sacrificing love, while women are purely self-interested and view love as transactional. Men are born to lead, women are born to follow." Credit … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 10:43 PM |
| 0 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]I stand by my contention: if an individual needs to be told that people desire physically attractive partners, that individual is a dolt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 10:39 PM |
| 4 | Is it really “submissiveness” or sycophancy that TRP men desire in a woman?Men deal with a lot of shit on a daily basis, the last thing any of them need is to go home and deal with your partner. Home should be a relaxing, welcoming place, not round 2 for life's bullshit. Oh, is this a reality where your significant other doesn't also work a full time job? And is then, apparently, expected to meticulously clean the house and prepare gorgeous meals so you can better "relax." What the fuck does she get out of this arrangement? You both work. What the fuck are rp men doing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 06:37 PM |
| 7 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]If that were true, rp wouldn't involve a bunch of bullshit concerning the shortcomings of women, summarized beautifully by /u/cherryblue12: "TRP dehumanizes women by emphasizing that women are not only different, but fundamentally inferior to men: Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions. Men are adults while women are children. Men are capable of unconditional, self-sacrificing love, while women are purely self-interested and view love as transactional. Men are born to lead, women are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 06:19 PM |
| 4 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]Why don't you try asking her what she finds physically attractive? I'm guessing any of the following might make an appearance: tall, muscular (lean muscularity or built, depending), strong jawline, broad shoulders, striking eyes, great smile/teeth, good hair, nice butt, etc etc etc. Women are sexual creatures. To reach adulthood believing otherwise speaks to a near comical lack of common sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 06:12 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallYou are absolutely provably incorrect on all counts: the human brain reaches full maturation in the mid-twenties, male and female both. The difference between men and women? A mere two years or less on average. Does this mean male brains have two years longer to mature? Actually, the opposite: girls have about a 4 year head start on brain maturation, meaning, hilariously, that they mature for about two years longer than men do. Countless studies have demonstrated that men are less able to harnes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 05:59 PM |
| 6 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]Of course not. You know it, I know it- even they know it. If you hear someone say "I Just want a Nice Guy who will treat me right," mentally add the unspoken 'attractive.' It's fucking implied, people want partners that they find physically alluring. These guys are just aching to blame others for their shortcomings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 05:16 PM |
| 5 | What A Typical American Girl Faces [h/t /u/thedeti]This is such wholesale bullshit you're selling. I have never met a woman who said looks didn't matter to her. I have met a rare few who place a lower emphasis on 'attractiveness,' but it still matters to them. You're an idiot to believe anyone who tells you that physical attraction isn't important for romantic connection. Let me reiterate: if you have honestly met women that say these things, you are the idiot for believing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 05:13 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallI disagree. I am one of majority of RP that believes "There is only different. There cannot be superior/inferior between sexes overall. Only in assessment of individual particulars like height. And only if you specify which extreme is superior pre-hoc". I'll play: do you think being a leader is superior to being a follower? To you think being able to control your emotions is superior to being controlled by them? Do you believe it is superior to continue maturing while your female counterparts st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/15 11:38 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallThe headman is as likely to be a pudgy bald guy as the CEO. The CEO as likely to be a talk strong dominant male as the headman. You are verifiably wrong, history reveals as much. It seems a common trend with rpers- you are far too invested in your premises to question them, so you simply claim they are correct. It'd be annoying if it wasn't so predictable. And there are plenty of attributes women have that women take as insulting, because you are such thin skinned creatures that a little truth c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 04:18 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallCEO's don't have to be charming, attractive, tall, and imposing. They often aren't. They're often weasel-faced, overweight, arrogant and rude fucks that were born into wealth. The headman was likely all of those things listed, in addition to being wise and equitable. Oral histories of early American Indian societies support this across the table. These histories also reveal that there were many 'headwomen'; I know you'll love that as a rp desperately clinging to the belief men are somehow more r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/15 10:58 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallYou're denigrating the reported experiences of women all over the internet who report absolutely zero attractive for doughy, balding CEOs. This is an issue we won't see eye to eye on. CEO's don't lead men, they lead a company. That takes a very different skill set, and definitely one that had no place in our prehistorical communities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/15 10:24 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallBut fucking hell, everyone knows power is an aphrodisiac. Look at all those politicians built like fucking potatoes with the mistresses and the hot wives. I disagree. The 'power' you refer to is primarily monetary. You are powerful because you either controls vast amounts of wealth or can control the interests of those with vast amounts of wealth. Those mistresses get beautiful jewelry, clothing, fuck- even apartments. They aren't just in it to fuck a "powerful" ugly, misshapen sack of a man. So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/15 12:10 AM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallBecause you're basing male attractiveness on "ability to provide," which, as I've demonstrated, wasn't a determinant for ancestral women. Funny you assume I'm female. So many rpers do, as an attempt to dismiss my logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/15 12:02 AM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallCEOs get alpha from their status/power/dominance as well as beta from their wealth. This is wishful thinking modeled on societal values. There is no biological imperative that makes women attracted to CEOs. There are biological imperatives that make them attracted to young, hot, ripped men (good genes) and also caring, intelligent, protective men (good fathers). Sometimes they're lucky enough to find both. Just as with men: of course they'll be attracted to young, fit, hot women. But they'll als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 10:07 PM |
| 0 | The Power of the WallIf the woman looks like Jennifer Aniston (46), Monica Belluci (50), Elizabeth Hurley (50), Sandra Bullock (50), Marisa Tomei (50), etc, etc, etc he sure will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 10:04 PM |
| 3 | The Power of the WallThe word 'whatever' clearly connotes a meaning. Its inclusion in the sentence implies something, so I'm not sure why you took this direction. Whatever means 'whatever.' It's literal meaning is "anything." What meaning do you suppose it connotes? "Whatever the hell you want" means "do whatever the hell you want." That could literally mean... anything. So I listed some things many, many young women are choosing to focus on. I'll assume you aren't against nuclear families and instead forgot to acco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 09:15 PM |
| 0 | The Power of the WallWealth is what a strong body was 250+ year ago. Standard of living has increased to the point that we don't need to worry about physical survival anymore, but our biological imperatives still remain. You are conflating social constructs (wealth) with biological imperatives (genetic fitness). They are not comparable, and your argument fails. Yes, wealth is socially important. Does that mean women get wet panties from 'wealth'? No, it means they use that wealth for the comfort it provides and fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 09:01 PM |
| 5 | The Power of the WallIf we used your logic on the wall, 18 year old boys would be the cream of the crop and the target of every woman (yea right....). I think all men can agree that while their knowledge of sexual tips and tricks may have grown with age, their refractory period has as well, and their stamina has seen a significant decrease. So if you want to have amazing sex as a woman, find a fairly mature 18 year old and teach him all those tricks. The hard truth is, men don't give a shit if a woman has a successf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 08:52 PM |
| 0 | The Power of the Wall[It] is not so much defined by looks as it is by wealth and the ability to provide. If we're measuring using biology imperatives wealth plays absolutely zero role. Providing plays a role, certainly, but much more important was the ability to protect your young or your pregnant mate. And what does that require? Brute force, speed, and agility. All things that aging robs men of. And looks are incredibly important for men. Sexual dimorphism didn't occur in a vacuum, our early female ancestors selec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 08:39 PM |
| 2 | The Power of the WallI suppose on the flip-side there is a subgroup of young men who fetishize older women, but I'm not sure the numbers are comparable. I agree that it hasn't been as common previously, but I have really noticed an uptick in recent decades. I think it's becoming increasingly more common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 08:25 PM |
| 1 | The Power of the WallUnless "whatever the hell they want" is to build a successful career and nurture their talents/hobbies. Women don't need men to provide for them anymore; this seems to terrify the men of rp. They accordingly create false boogymen to assuage their wounded egos and--hopefully--trick younger women into thinking an older, slower, less virile and physically powerful man is worth their time. Men peak hormonally in their late teens. Women do roughly a decade later. Why doesn't rp discuss this "wall"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 07:43 PM |
| 6 | The Power of the WallYou seem pretty blissfully unaware of yours... You're doing exactly what rp mocks women for doing: fucking around while you're young and hot and then trying to settle down after you're no longer your most desirable. It's delicious, delicious irony. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 07:35 PM |
| 0 | question to both pills, how do you interpret this little part of ww2.Weird. Your "evidence" is entirely made up of anecdotal puff pieces. At this point I shouldn't be surprised rpers have such a low bar for "evidence" (when it suits them) and yet, somehow, I'm always a tiny bit disappointed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 07:30 PM |
| 1 | question to both pills, how do you interpret this little part of ww2.According to an informal poll of straight women I know: a woman in a bikini is comparable to a man in boxer briefs. They almost universally agreed swimming trunks hid too much. Surprise: women enjoy looking at well built, almost nude men. You can't wear a tailored suit to bed... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?Yep. I do. Dear lord you're boring. It's like arguing with a two year old: "You are you are you are I know it!!!" "Okay, Timmy. But why do you think that?" "Because I know you are!!!!" You can't supply any rationale behind your claims because you completely lack any. It's hilarious and, to be truthful, a bit sad. Maybe a little autism too. Funny, that's a disorder far more common in men... If that was true, you'd just be out with it. Instead you are guarding it like a state secret. Your bar for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 10:57 PM |
| -1 | A true guide for avoiding red pill men:Hahaha she schooled you and all you've got is a cheap shot about her being "old"? She's successful in her career and successful in her marriage. She wins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 07:34 PM |
| 1 | "The most responsible teenager in the house" theoryOk, and? And that hinged hugely upon your argument. To remind you of what you wrote: "That's TRP, not MGTOW. Providing for yourself isn't the same a providing for others. You are mixing up a lot of stuff here." I think you're the one who's mixed up. Hopefully that clarified things a bit for you. And I asked to see all these the bodies of neckbeards that couldn't survive. Apparently the bare minimum is actually met. Again, who brought up "surviving" apart from yourself? The bare minimum 'being me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?Sure I do. You know I do. I have spent plenty of time in the company of dogs. That doesn't make me an expert on dogs. But you are female. And from that I conclude that you know very little about men. Nope. You don't. You're pretending you know because it makes you feel better. It's the definition of hamstering: you're rationalizing that you could know something you have zero evidence of, and then avoid the mental dissonance by claiming "you can't reveal your secrets". You don't have any secrets;… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 07:03 PM |
| 1 | "The most responsible teenager in the house" theoryThat's TRP, not MGTOW. Providing for yourself isn't the same a providing for others. You are mixing up a lot of stuff here. No one apart from yourself has mentioned "providing for others" To remind you, here's what /u/Problematiq actually said: They are doing nothing productive...Spending the majority of your time wanting to play video games, doing nothing with your life, and not even having the self respect to clean up after yourself and resigning yourself to living in your own filth in misery … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?It really bothers you that I am right. :) Well, like a good magician, I won't reveal how we make the sausage. I think you're so worked up because I am correct. Again, you don't have any idea what my gender is, and I absolutely love how much you wish you did. It's hilarious to watch you insist you know something you absolutely couldn't know. But that's pretty par for the course with rpers. You can't even make up pretend reasons for your "certainty"! It's just beautiful. Since you are a woman, I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?Yes, I do. Enlighten the class- how have you 'figured me out,' exactly? Your terrible reasoning invalidates your viewpoint. Not your sex. Although, it is pretty bullshit to comment on men's issues when you're not a man, and you're not proud enough of being a woman to own up to it. Again, you have zero proof either way. That you assume I must be an ashamed woman says rather a lot about your thought processes. Nothing revelatory, of course. We can't expect that from you. I am not incapable. I just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?Funny that you assume that poster to be female. I'm sure you assume I am too. You go ahead and believe anything that makes you feel better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 01:22 AM |
| 1 | "The most responsible teenager in the house" theorySo, their job is to produce stuff for you? You are now some sort of slave owner? Are people not meant to provide for themselves? I thought "working hard," "personal responsibility," and "honor" were such core tenants for you lot... "Care to explain how being unkempt " <-- then why did you make it part of the discussion? Are adults not meant to wash themselves and wear clean clothes? You don't have children, do you. That's not childish at all. Children are ambitious (they haven't had some soul-su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?I'm an adult human. I have purposely not made my gender clear, because it doesn't matter either way. My opinion is not worth more if it comes from a man or a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 09:36 PM |
| 4 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?TRP doesn't have core beliefs. It is not a religion. Men are encouraged to take ideas they find efficacious and leave the rest. It absolutely has core beliefs. To pretend otherwise is disingenous, and more than that- it's fucking stupid. It isn't a grab bag featuring diverse viewpoints and tactics. It very clearly states that women operate in one specific mode (AWALT, hypergamy, AFBB, etc etc) and men operate in another. The 'core beliefs' are the beliefs that rp has chosen to endorse or feature… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?It's just occasionally, because I'm RP, people talk to me like I'm 20 and haven't seen the world. I'm just noting I have. This should be telling for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?I will say that, entirely honestly condensing for Reddit, everything there is the briefest summary you can give of those concepts. But it's probably the most honest summary you could give at that length. Go ahead and summarize them at length. Please- I'd dearly love to see you backpedal and flail hopelessly trying to twist them into meaning something else. I'm serious. I beg you. I do agree with all the concepts there expressed as strong tendencies among the adult population. That's not what the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?My frequency has still gone up an order of magnitude since I took the pill. That's just fact. You can argue all you like, you won't convince me. I know how much I used to have sex and how much sex I have now. Sure. You've also repeatedly stated that "getting fit" is a huge component of your rp belief system. Maybe your wife wants to fuck you more because you're more physically attractive? Strange you need an entire ideology to motivate yourself to work out, but it's your life buddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:07 PM |
| 0 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?I'm a man, and I've never really had guys tearing down other men in front of me, except in a work context. ...So you have, in fact, experienced this exact phenomenon. I just don't really see that behaviour, and not attached to attractiveness. I'm willing to bet the majority of women don't witness other women doing this either. Maybe guys act differently with the girls. That you've never considered this says rather a lot about your (lack of a) thought process. Maybe you're still in high school. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:04 PM |
| -2 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?While men typically ally with and follow men who are the prize. I amend my earlier comment- you really do believe all that rp bullshit. Many, many men will tear down attractive, charming guys the minute they are out of earshot. That you assume men are naturally above this behavior shows how sadly out of touch you truly are. Men are just as insecure as women are. They're just culturally pressured to pretend they aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?So long as we are going out, doing X, and getting laid like tile. You're fucking married dude. You're not "going out, doing X, and getting laid like tile". You're taking a bunch of idiotic blowhards' bragposts on an anonymous internet forum as gospel. It's sad you can't see how misguided you are, but I suppose that's what religious fervor does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 05:56 PM |
| 5 | Is it sexist or misogynist for a man to view himself as the prize in either short term or long term relationships?What you do here is much more damaging and dangerous than the "anger phase noobs" you write off. You are presenting rp in a way that minimizes it's core beliefs, writing off the misogynistic idiocy as simply angry young men "swinging their dicks". And you're full of shit. To quote /u/cherryblue12 above: TRP dehumanizes women by emphasizing that women are not only different, but fundamentally inferior to men: Men are rational where women are ruled by emotions. Men are adults while women are child… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 05:37 PM |
| 1 | "The most responsible teenager in the house" theoryHow could you expect a female surgeon to perform well? A female police officer? A female litigator? A female executive? A female supreme court justice? Oddly enough women excel in all of these fields, and more! How incredibly curious, considering all these women are, according to you, irrational children. So very, very strange... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Your "study" is a thesis paper. Nothing more, and certainly not peer-reviewed. Also, she explores the discrepancy using a variety of theories- cumulatively they explain a huge proportion of the 'gap' in question Especially interesting: Columns 11-12 of Table 5 show that the gender gap is substantially larger among black than non-black defendants (74% versus 51%). The race-gender interaction adds to our understanding of racial disparity: racial disparities among men significantly favor whites, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Irrelevant/red-herring ...No. It is extraordinarily relevant that involvement in violent crime makes you a much more likely victim. It is pretty much pure logic. An average man has a token [physical] advantage over an average woman. Go ahead and post this notion over on rp. See how it goes over with your likeminded friends. but in the USA and especially the south USA, uncircumcised penises are most certainly shamed. Sure. And what of lengthy labia minora? Hugely shamed everywhere in the US, with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 04:39 AM |
| 0 | "The most responsible teenager in the house" theorywe could just weight the merits of a female candidate, and she'd never win. Perhaps you could expound on this curious statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Red herring There's nothing misleading about what I stated. That you lack the comprehension necessary to parse it doesn't mean it's misleading, it only points to your inability to reason logically. .....It's not a hard concept to grasp, and it's entirely accurate as far as I can see. Well that doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Your assertion is riddled with holes. Here's just one of the many issues: your "stuff" (genetic material) requires a compatible gene pool, generally one that introduce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/15 07:37 PM |
| 1 | How many sexual partners makes a female unattractive for marriage?...Dear god. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/15 12:20 AM |
| 1 | How many sexual partners makes a female unattractive for marriage?You hush with your science and facts. Rp biotruths or nothing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/15 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Now you're trying to double down on the average man being stronger than the average women, which I already previously countered by arguing the rate of criminal violence in the USA is 92%/8% in favour of men, so it makes no difference. You have the EPIC privilege of only accounting for 8% of all violent crime, not just serious rape, murder, etc. Perhaps that is because men are overwhelmingly responsible for violent and otherwise dangerous crime? If you commit violent crimes or become involved wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/15 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Practically a 1 to 10 chance of being a victim of crime Because women aren't involved in dangerous criminal activity anywhere near the rates men are. Lower chance of comitted[sic] suicide Women have a much higher risk of attempted suicide (often with drugs/carbon monoxide), and the attendant health complications of failure. Men are much more likely to successfully commit suicide because they choose violent methods (guns/hanging). Women also have a much, much higher incidence of clinical depressi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/15 02:00 AM |
| 1 | What is a man's legitimate and effective defense against a mattress carrier?My comments are full of linked peer-reviewed studies and federal reports. You posted a youtube video. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectOh, is that worse than blackmailing someone by threatening to rape or kill them or their loved ones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 06:35 PM |
| -2 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectWhile the male coin in the realm of power is actual power, the female coin is influence: it's the more subtle and indirect, an intangible use of that power In fact, 'actual power' is defined as "the ability or right to control people or things," which you repeatedly and mistakenly conflate with physical might. How shocking that you redefine power this way. It seems apparent to me that the subtle power of influence would be vastly superior: it does not inspire fear or hatred in those it controls,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 06:26 PM |
| 0 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectWhat do my numbers show? Have male victims directly benefitted from the law? Your hatred of women is blinding you to reality... which is, of course, to be expected from rpers. It's just boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 06:20 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectTell that to the 80% of fathers that could not get any custody of their children and now pay massive amounts of money to the ex-wives that kidnapped those children away from him. How strange, you somehow completely ignore that when men actually pursue custody they are as likely as women to get it: "fathers who actively seek custody obtain either primary or joint physical custody over 70% of the time". It is due largely to the perception of bias on the part of the father that they choose to relin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 05:59 PM |
| 0 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectSo you're confusing social equality with absolute equality. You're literally the only person doing this. When women "cutely" chant for equality, what do you imagine they're chanting for? To be magically granted the same physical strength men enjoy? What the fuck is your argument here? Do you imagine strong, burly men could overthrow the government based on their physical power alone? What man-worshipping fever dream are you living in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 05:11 PM |
| -1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectMaybe you should look at the actual numbers before spewing your inane "misandrist!!1111" claims everywhere. "Between 1993 to 2007, the rate of intimate partner homicides of females decreased 35% and the rate of intimate partner homicides of males decreased 46%. Such misandry. Wow male hate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:54 PM |
| 1 | What is a man's legitimate and effective defense against a mattress carrier?Oh, a totally unbiased youtuber with no history of misogynistic rants- what a fabulous source you've found! You're not smart enough to warrant my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:44 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectI've struggled to find hard data (ie not a puff piece from huffpo) that explicitly states that both the crime and previous criminal activity on the part of the offenders were equal. Since men commit the vast majority of violent crimes, it seems likely that the women convicted were more often first time offenders, and the men were more likely repeat offenders. I agree that it is unfair that women received less punishment for non-violent crime. The best explanation I found was that ["judges treat … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:39 PM |
| 0 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectAs I said: I'm defining power just as the "capability of" (meaning that the POWER people have to exert control under their surrounding and people) So I have no idea where you came up with socials and politics. Your definition has no basis in reality. It isn't what is meant by "use of power," as I've attempted to explain to you repeatedly. The inclusion of the word ‘‘power’’, in addition to the phrase ‘‘use of physical force’’, broadens the nature of a violent act and expands the conventional und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:35 PM |
| 0 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectOf course, because female victims are never silenced with threats of blackmail from their male abusers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:27 PM |
| 0 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectAh, yes- three instances meant to serve as proof of an apparently endemic issue. With enough time, anyone can find three instances of any manner of uncommon crime. Congratulations, you can use google. You really shouldn't feel so proud of yourself There is no reality in which this is a commonplace occurrence. There is no reality where this approaches the incidence of rape and sexual assault (male or female victim). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:26 PM |
| -2 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectThen, years later, Animal Control Administrator /u/lorispoison is looking at stats, and it shows that 94% of violent bulldogs were impounded and later euthanized, they chalk it up to great success of the Bulldog Impound law. Because statistics, dammit! So very strange that the rates for male offenders plummeted directly after VAWA was signed into law! How absolutely at odds with your argument. You are so distracted by the title of the law (no!!! boooo women!!!!) that you can't look into its actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:21 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectOh wow, an anecdotal data point of one, from someone with absolutely no agenda at all! You've totally convinced me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:14 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectIt is the dictionary definition of stoicism. That you call it "completely off" says so, so very much about your deeply flawed belief system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:13 PM |
| -1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectWhen the reporting of domestic violence against men was socially accepted and at an all time high, right? Men are just now starting to speak out about being abused in the home, and it's still not socially acceptable to do so. Should reporting domestic violence not be socially accepted? What are you trying to argue here? The rates for female offenders have stayed the same because there hasn't been any legislation specifically targeting females. How is it not immediately apparent to all parties ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 04:11 PM |
| 2 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectI wasn't familiar with the case. I'm glad justice MIGHT be served here. Compare her sentence when/if it happens to a male from a similar situation. 60% less harsh if she's even convicted. Ah, the good ol' "pulling numbers out of my ass because I lack an argument" route. Find me hard data that suggests, in equally severe crimes, women routinely receive less harsh sentencing. Otherwise, stop wasting my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 12:47 AM |
| -4 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectI'm not generalizing as you can see, also I'm not merging power and violence in the same meaning. If you read (again) what I said you can see that I'm defining power just as the "capability of" (meaning that the POWER people have to exert control under their surrounding and people) So you are suggesting that all individuals--who possess no actual social or political power--have instead an innate "power" that is defined by... its existence? What are you on? Stoic= Frame Push and pull_ Dread and n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 12:44 AM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectIf a man gets another man to kill a third, both men go to jail, one for murder, the other for conspiracy to murder. Not so in this case, because the catalyst persons is a woman. Hilariously, you are verifiably wrong. The woman, an underage teen at the time of the attack, was in fact charged with second degree murder as an adult. So... where's your argument again? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 12:37 AM |
| 2 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectWhat is your point here? Are you meaning to suggest that men don't influence other men to commit acts of violence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 12:21 AM |
| -3 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectAh, proven wrong so you attempt to move the goalposts to redefining "power." The "use of power" refers to those in positions of power abusing their position to coerce or otherwise threaten those beneath them. Are you meaning to suggest that every woman born is born into a position of power? Are you truly this insane? Now I just gave you two examples, and there are so many cases of women using coercing to violence, physical/mental. Oh, have you? Where, exactly? Making my self more attractive, wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 12:17 AM |
| -2 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectHis point is that because women are inherently weaker than men, this same men are "wired" to protect them, it just how nature intended things to be. Now if we extrapolate that to our decadent society you'll see this "instinct of female protection" as we fondly know it as White Knight. Nature intended us to want to protect women so the "halo" effect is simply biological determinism. Oh, okay. I'll copy and paste his 'point' (I hesitate to label this blathering a "point," because it lacks all semb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 12:08 AM |
| -3 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo Effectwoman do use violence (just like men) Forgive me, but are you attempting to redefine "violence" to make your argument somehow more cohesive or compelling? What insane logical leaps you rpers are always having to make. how many times did you sis a little girl run to his daddy because a little biy was rude to her The same number of times I've seen little boys cry to their parents because another kid was mean to them. how many times have you seen a girl with crocodile tears claiming she was assault… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:52 PM |
| 2 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectWould you rather I referred to them as "crime rates"? Because that's what they are. Decades of crime rates as reported by the federal government. Not the "feminist boogeymen" you're so frightened by. VAWA was signed into law in 1994. The Deptartment of Justice cites rates extending back to 1980 in the study I linked. Shockingly, the rates for female offenders have stayed roughly static, and the rates for male offenders have, in fact, markedly decreased after VAWA. Fascinating. And you ask if I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?You said pregnancy and abortion suck...which IMO does not counter-balance the amount of social and sexual privilege you receive from being female. What social and sexual privileges, exactly? And what of the social and sexual privileges of being born male? Seems a huge sexual privilege to me to never have to worry about pregnancy, abortion, or the host of issues involved with hormonal birth control. Where is your argument? The rest of your argument was about how women can't defend themselves and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:40 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo Effectwomen use social manipulation instead of violence when they want something. But thanks to the Halo effect this women don't face the consequences they should. Perhaps because social manipulation isn't against the law? And beyond that isn't the sole purview of women in the least: Machiavellianism, anyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:27 PM |
| 3 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectI cite decades of verified statistics and you respond with anecdotal drivel from your "cop friends"? How disappointing. And you ignore that the incidence of violent victimization of men by men is essentially equal to that of women. Where, exactly, is that "halo effect" muddying the waters for these rates? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:23 PM |
| 1 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectWe protect women more as society because even though we nod our heads at their cute "equality" chants, we also silently, tacitly acknowledge that they are the weaker gender, and in need of more protection and benefit of the doubt. What are you arguing here? That because women are on average physically smaller and less powerful than men, they somehow don't deserve equality? What of the physically handicapped and the disability rights movement? Are they similarly "cute" when chanting for equality?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:19 PM |
| 3 | A Discussion on AWALT and The Halo EffectOr perhaps it's that men commit the vast majority of violent crimes? Oh, and before you lament that women simply aren't prosecuted harshly like men are: "men were considered the accused in 81% of cases of violent victimization against women, and in 79% of cases of violent victimization against males; whereas females accounted for 10% of victimizations against females and 10% against males." Well, how about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 11:10 PM |
| 1 | What is a man's legitimate and effective defense against a mattress carrier?Where are you citing this information from? Provide sources. The DNA exclusion rate is 20%, not 25%. More importantly, the rate stems not from malicious false accusations but instead from "mistaken eyewitness identification, coerced confessions, unreliable forensic laboratory work, law enforcement misconduct, and ineffective representation of counsel, singly and often in combination, remain the leading causes of wrongful convictions." But I suppose examining your information further would destro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Ah yes, you completely ignore the bulk of my comment discussing pregnancy, abortion, and hormonal birth control. How surprising you have absolutely zero answer for those uniquely female issues. No, because most women seem perfectly content with womanhood. Are you saying you would? Do they? Are you suggesting that women never concede that, while they enjoy many things about being female, they very much wish they were better able to defend themselves? If I were female, would I want to be much larg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 05:42 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Coffee. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 05:27 PM |
| 1 | What is a man's legitimate and effective defense against a mattress carrier?Where are you getting that number, exactly? The best data available puts the number of false accusations made between 2% and 10%. When coupled with the fact that experts in these fields estimate only between 5 and 20% of sexual assaults are reported you are looking at a very, very small number indeed. It is much more likely that you will experience rape or sexual assault as a man than be falsely accused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 05:26 PM |
| 1 | TheBluePill is as hateful as TheRedPillI see, you think she has other and possibly worse issues, besides being irrationally violent. She stated she was violent due to her past. Are you truly this bad at reading? Didn't ask for or even imply that I needed one. I said that pejoratives are words that offend you. That doesn't mean that they aren't other things, such as pejoratives, or true. You pretended that 'crazy' was only a pejorative in my mind because I was personally offended. I proved you wrong like a fucking boss with a peer-rev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 01:13 AM |
| 0 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.As I said, it's about not making it easy to get screwed over. There's a chance someone will try to dox you -- why help them? Then why would you attach pictures or videos of yourself at all if that's a fear? To answer before you can blather pointlessly: you wouldn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 01:10 AM |
| 0 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Let's say most people get married between ages 20 and 40. If for 25% of that time I'm at a clear advantage and I can pinpoint a few other years where women's behavior changes that's significant. Sure, but you waste this advantage by trying to date significantly younger- and those women -- according to that OK Cupid data you love trumpeting -- simply aren't interested in you. They want men right around their own age. Oh no :( This is incorrect. The OK Cupid data clearly shows that younger women t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 01:08 AM |
| 0 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Imagine your employer found pictures of you online doing something they didn't approve of. If it's just a picture you can protect yourself to a degree; if it's a picture of you holding a sign saying "Here's information tying me to all the online accounts I have, some of which have other content my employer won't like" you're making it easy to get yourself screwed over. Imagine your employer found pictures of you online doing something they didn't approve of. If it's just a picture you can protec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.It's a skill set to know that people/bots mine private social media accounts to build fake profiles? I thought that was simply common knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Answer: that's the sole photo he posts. How surprising. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Oh of course, so now I've (on your behalf ayee) failed to find evidence of your assertions, you now move the goalposts. So not only are the photos and Vines all stolen but they must be stolen from a private account. All of it stolen from private accounts. That's how people do this- they use pictures and videos pirated from private accounts to build fake public accounts. Come on you seasoned internet stalker, you know this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:49 PM |
| -1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?This is exactly what TRP says -- that men stay attractive longer than women. I'm glad we're agreeing here. A whole 5 years. How incredibly impressive- definitely worth building an entire 'dating strategy' around. Prettier? I'm sure I can find a 37-year-old outlier who is prettier than a typical 30-year-old, but the OK Cupid data indisputably shows that on average the 30-year-old will be better looking. And if it's unreasonable to assume a person is better (in terms of personality) simply because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Those results don't include private social media accounts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:37 PM |
| 0 | Does dread game work on men too ?You really can't even pretend to have submissive traits, it's too embarrassing for you! It's a beautiful confirmation of my point. Thanks for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:25 PM |
| -1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Larger, smaller, symmetrical, fuller, etc are all objective measurements. More handsome/pretty is subjective. You don't word good :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Come on bro do you even internet stalk? No? I don't have this skill set man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.You can't reverse image search the photos? If they're stolen from someone else's profile it'd be easy to find out. Why bother with videos? There's one photo and it's an unclear shot of his face. Find more and I'll gladly search them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:22 PM |
| 0 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.And verification requires a picture. More importantly, it requires a user to say "Look at me -- this is my picture tied to a supposedly anonymous internet account!" You're asking for a picture, and asking for more than a picture, too. How is it anonymous when he talks about red pill nonstop and uses the exact same handle? He's already providing videos. Explain how that's anonymous, exactly? We're asking him to verify that the man who appears in the videos is actually him. That's not asking someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:20 PM |
| 1 | TheBluePill is as hateful as TheRedPillTo repeat: Nowhere does she say that's why she's in therapy. Nowhere. I tried to stop it in therapy Where again does she say that it is why she was in therapy? Because all this says is that she's brought it up in therapy. So pejoratives are words that offend you. OK. You need a fucking study that proves 'crazy' is a pejorative term for mental illness? Luckily I can provide one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:19 PM |
| -1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Right, but I know that video image stills won't turn up links to that video, nor other pictures/web presence of the person in the still. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:10 PM |
| 1 | TheBluePill is as hateful as TheRedPillThis happened multiple times, and she tried and failed to correct this via mental health resources. I think that's a fair reading of the comment - if she thought it was rational behavior she wouldn't be in therapy for it. Her actual comment: "because of my upbringing, when a guy intimidates me or is overly aggressive I skip flight and go straight to fight (I tried to stop it in therapy but it is so deeply ingrained in my brain, idk)...." Nowhere does she say that's why she's in therapy. Nowhere.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?The OK Cupid data is studying the exact question OP asked: At what point do women's looks fade enough to severely limit her dating options? The answer is almost exactly what TRP says: Around age 30. And according to that same data men's looks fade enough to severely limit dating options at 36. Congrats? The data you present only describes age-related dating outcomes, not the quality of dating options. That data tells me that a 37-year-old woman may easily wind up with a man only a few years her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 11:06 PM |
| 0 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.That's not asking for pictures, he's already providing them. That's asking for verification it's actually him. I could see how someone like yourself might miss that distinction. Bless your heart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 10:55 PM |
| -1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Aw, you tried so hard to be condescending and still failed :( Read more carefully: Point me to that reverse video search and I gladly will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 10:53 PM |
| -1 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.He could, or he could get on with doing his shit. "He could quickly and easily prove he's GLO but why would he? It would only legitimize his vine/twitter" If you think he is fake and has just stolen the photos and videos why don't you show evidence? Multiple reverse image search services exist. Use them. Dig up the profiles he stole all this stuff from. Point me to that reverse video search and I gladly will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 10:39 PM |
| -2 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both."I demand pictures of people posting on an anonymous internet forum!" Strange, I don't remember making this post. Or asking for pictures. Perhaps you could show me where I've done so? "Of course I won't post a picture of myself; this is supposed to be an anonymous internet forum!" I expect nobody on here to post pictures of themselves. But OP's examples are hilariously spot on- all those men are hideous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?A podcast is not a source. ...You're not familiar with Marketplace, I take it. It's available on podcast, it's not a podcast. Nice try. You said not insignificant number of people. You said nothing about small number of people. Actually, what I said was "not tiny," meaning not insignificant but still small. Seems you're really just splitting hairs though. I never disagreed with this. I just think sexuality plays a big part in how you act in a sexual relationship. But alas, we've repeated these s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 10:35 PM |
| 0 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.Photoshop leaves a mark. He could also make a vine where he says his handle. We'll wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 09:42 PM |
| -2 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.I'd like to see your face for comparison. Not likely. But I can tell you the following, objectively: I have a more symmetrical face with a much smaller nose and slightly larger eyes which are set more widely apart. I do not have puffy bags under my eyes. I lack the brow ridge and have a higher forehead. My eyebrows are naturally much less bushy. I also have fuller lips and straighter teeth. ETA: he also appears slightly wall-eyed, which I am not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?So no, you can't provide a source? That's exactly what I did. Marketplace- listen to it on podcast, it's the one about HENRYs. Oh so you're now admitting the bit about a significant number of people liking a submissive SO was specifically talking about personality types rather than just sex? Awesome, even better. I never disagreed with that. I stated that the small but significant proportion of people it was true for creeped me out, and explained why. And in reaction to the second bit, then, we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Average vs Potential SMV (with graphs)What are you basing this on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 08:50 PM |
| -4 | Red pillers, who has an attractive man never come out as red pill? Every RPer who has shown themselves has been fat, a neckbeard, or both.He's objectively ugly. Her picture shows him close up and face on, yours do not. He's a 4 at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?I don't have to imagine anything. I practice what I preach. It's not even that hard lol. You ...practice that 20 years olds don't desire other 20 year olds? And it's "not hard"? Do share your magic with us, please. Lol you wish. I don't have to 'wish' for anything. Research backs me up: men want 20 year olds and don't get them, women want men around their own age and do. It's illuminating to observe your thought patterns here. It's also incredibly illuminating to notice you can't counter my rese… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?I can't seem to find data that specific, can you link a source if you have one? Closest I could find is this which breaks down earning by gender but not by class or any difference in income within specific couples. It was discussed on a recent episode of Marketplace. Sure: Oh, I get it. We're taking things out of context in a desperate attempt to change their meaning. How intellectually bankrupt and, yet again, disingenuous. Here, let me remind you of the original context: [me] I can't work my h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 08:31 PM |
| 0 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?Pure projection. Good god you're boring. You are the one telling men "oh it's hard". I know why you're doing this (your projection speaks volumes). Do you? You don't want to believe in the wall. Cool. Ignore all actual evidence (to remind you: 1. statistics show people date very close in age and 2. women's actual preferences are for partners very, very close to them in age) and keep imagining the fairy tale in your head will become true. You're gonna be so painfully disappointed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?There's a new batch of 20 year olds every. Single. Year. Male and female both, friend. And those hot 20 years old will date other hot co-eds by a vast, vast majority. But keep pretending you'll be knee deep in 20 year old pussy at 40. They're totally gonna lust after your saggy ballsack, bud. Totally. Here's a question for you: What are you trying to do here? Convince men not to date younger women? Convince men it's "hard" to date younger women? Why? Why is this important to you? I don't have to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?Double income = power couple now? Since when? In most cases both parties have to work to make ends meet, it's an economic requirement. If that makes you a "power couple" then having a license makes you a Formula 1 driver. I'll be more explicit: look at the stats of double income families where both partners individually earn enough to place them in 'upper middle class' or higher. I'd call that a power couple, and the numbers of people who it applies to increases with each year. That's not my vie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Who is saying the 20 yo have to want the 35 yo for their to be a wall ? Many, many posts on rp. I know, I can hardly believe it myself. These men are in for such an unhappy surprise. Put the strawmen away. They're a fire hazard. Good god you lot and your claims of straw man. Do you ever get tired of trotting that tired horse out? Lord knows the rest of us do. It's not a straw man, it's rp endorsed posts promising that hot co-eds will want your sagging 40+ ballsack. Hint: they won't. For the "goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?Maybe it is the opposite, but either way the two things are very linked. If you still don't agree then perhaps we are just of two minds about this topic and there's not much point going back and forth repeating ourselves. We are absolutely of two minds. Sure but are they the majority of couples? Or even a significant minority? I would argue not. They are absolutely becoming the norm. Check out the stats for the numbers of single vs double income families spanning these past few decades. Also you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?This distinction is what I don't get. Romantic relationships are sexual by their very nature as I said already. It seems blatantly obvious that your sexuality directly effects your romantic relationships. How? Seriously, I'm baffled by this line of thinking. Sex is a component of romantic relationships, it's not the defining act. How you have sex doesn't dictate how you act outside of the bedroom. It's often the exact opposite. We've already established half of men are submissive and the other h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Advocating for late 30's/early 40's is just dangerous. It really, really isn't anymore. Yeah a later pregnancy requires more caution and must be more carefully observed. But women in this age range routinely have healthy babies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Still think the younger girls, equally interested in them are just hotter somehow. Find proof that these 20-22 year old girls are as equally interested in 35 year old men as they are in 25 year old men. Oh, wait. You can't. You are competing with younger, hotter males for this young, hot female. It'd be much wiser to focus on older women, where you actually stand a chance. RP isn't TRP. If your making that error you ain't worked out RP actually is yet. Sigh. Males four year older or more than th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 12:15 AM |
| 0 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?More active misinterpretation. I said "start to disappear" -- as in they aren't gone, but they're diminishing. Just as they do for men, a scant 5 years later. Good luck with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?Sure but your relationship preferences are a lot more closely linked to sexual desires than your profession so I don't think your example makes that point. I think they're all separate spheres related in different ways for different people. All I said is that women are more likely to have submissive personality traits within relationships and sex and those women are more likely to be attracted to men who have dominant personality traits. We've pretty much already agreed that's true, you just don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?How driven you are outside of the world of sex and relationships is irrelevant to what you want in a romantic or sexual partner. You said so yourself. I argued that what is true in the bedroom is not true elsewhere. People use sex to work out all sorts of psychological stresses, issues, and baggage. Hopefully not in relationships. If you're relying on someone else to make decisions and sort things out I would certainly argue there is an element of submission and desire to be lead. I think we wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 11:17 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Guys who want kids don't look on it too kindly either. Maybe that LTR candidate will go with the 28 year old rather than the 35 year old. Go and check her out. He wants two. Three might be cool too. And of the increasing number of people, male and female both, who don't want children? Go straight for LTRs with good guys. If you don't we'll prey on you. Hi plates ;) You're married. You don't have any "plates." Nor do, I'm estimating here, 99% of rp. It's a revenge porn forum for "nice guys" that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 11:00 PM |
| -1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Fertility only really starts to drop in the late 30s, and women into their early 40s can easily have successful pregnancies. Nobody is arguing there are stricter age limitations for women wanting to have biological children, but it's really not so dire. Also, they should snap up those younger guys if so: This study reported a five times greater increase in time to pregnancy in men aged 45 years and older compared with men aged < 25 years. The increased time to pregnancy was similar even when res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 10:19 PM |
| 0 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?Right, and -- I hesitate to repeat myself again here -- as Rudder himself stated: "In fact, Rudder himself noted that while these numbers reflect the 'who’s liking who' information on OkCupid, the actual messaging patterns of men on the site show that they’re much more likely to message someone closer to their own age." Perhaps, if you've read the book, you can explain why he states the information comes from "who's liking who"? It's not really like that. This is the conclusion drawn by Christia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 10:11 PM |
| -1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?The argument is that women become less desirable to men and therefore see their dating options start to disappear around 30. Hmm, according to endorsed rp posts, this is because women turn into barren hags at 30. Seriously, read ...anything on rp about why men prefer young girls- it's all fertility biotruth. Also dating options don't disappear, they lessen as they do for everyone with age. According to OK Cupid (I know how you guys love it): a woman of 31 is already "past her prime," while a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?Although in my experience a lot of girls do like to call me Daddy... Haha, gross dude. What I am saying however is that such women are basically unicorns. Hmm. I know we're getting anecdotal here, but I have known so many driven, strong, confident, decisive women. I just can't imagine a realistic scenario where you've lived a life devoid of these types of women. An orthodox religious community? And even strong driven women seem to like having a man they know they can rely on at the end of the da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 10:00 PM |
| -1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?Of course it is -- that's a straw man. TRP's argument is that the wall is around 30. Based on what evidence? Fertility only decreases dramatically in the late 30s. That's the main argument, right? Fertility? Interestingly, male fertility drops off right around the same time. Now I've provided two peer-reviewed studies appearing in major medical journals and cited by the NIH. Where's your proof? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 09:19 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?I'll repeat what I've said elsewhere: I love how rpers cite this famed "OK Cupid evidence" yet ignore that in the real world couples are separated by an average of 2 years. Here's a graph. So your OK Cupid 'evidence' is really just evidence that women are realistic about their options and men are really, really not. "In fact, Rudder himself noted that while these numbers reflect the 'who’s liking who' information on OkCupid, the actual messaging patterns of men on the site show that they’re much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 08:18 PM |
| 0 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?This was a hot or not kind of thing, they tested having the age and not having the age. Can you cite this? Because, again, this is info of "who's liking who," which includes age: "In fact, Rudder himself noted that while these numbers reflect the 'who’s liking who' information on OkCupid, the actual messaging patterns of men on the site show that they’re much more likely to message someone closer to their own age." Using the much better, more time intensive bait for a less elusive fish. "Realist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?What I posted never mentions their age, just pictures, if you include the ages then men's preferences skew strongly towards their own age. It's actually the opposite. Men naturally prefer women between 18-22 and society tells them to be with one their own age. ...Huh? It's data taken from the dating site OK Cupid, where age is always listed. This might help: "In fact, Rudder himself noted that while these numbers reflect the 'who’s liking who' information on OkCupid, the actual messaging pattern… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?One woman's anecdotal experience. With that kind of 'truth' how can anyone doubt rp? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?I think she was lambasting the idea that, at a mere 18 years old, she's already depreciating in value as a person. Because her value as a person is looking young. But there's the possibility that she took this bullshit to heart. Which is, yes, ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 07:28 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?I've seen plenty of rpers say they'd date younger if it was legal. Or that it is legal in their state/country so they do. Or they advise to travel to countries where it is legal. The idea that women are only valuable from 15 - 24, the younger the better, is trumpeted all over rp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 07:20 PM |
| -1 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?First off, an average is a terrible way to measure something with an unknown distrobution shape. Additionally I think an average is skewed by older and married couples. Here's the shape. No, it's actually a statement about what we find attractive. Do you really think every man is an unrealistic disconnected dreamer and every woman is a cold down-to-earth realist in the dating scene or were you just spouting off? I think it's more likely that men receive a lot of cultural messages that young wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Sexual selection protects against extinction say scientists. But why is "sexual selection" all about pruning the males?Dumb, brutish men are not good at building civilizations. Except Neanderthals weren't dumb or brutish- we have found the earliest recorded instances of art and burials at their sites. And we intermixed with them regularly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?(I think that was her point.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone have conclusive proof of the "wall" existing?See thats very interesting for two reasons... 1) You are arguing against the wall. You use examples. But the examples you use are "Post-Wall women who are so good looking, and so well maintained that they can pass for pre-wall chicks". Do you see how that confirms the theory ? That the only 40 year olds you know who have snagged a good guy.... Happen to be... The > You are arguing against the wall. You use examples. But the examples you use are "Post-Wall women who are so good looking, and so we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?That'd be kinda weird and not at all sexy. You know pretty much all of Freud has been debunked now right? Weirdly you don't see how the same is true for women. Most don't want to date their father, that's fucking gross. I think men do desire for a partner they can be openly emotional with, although RP advises against actually doing this since it reduces your sexual attractiveness, I think we do actually want it regardless. Agreed. People generally want to feel cared for emotionally. They want to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:48 PM |
| 0 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?Sure they did ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:42 PM |
| 0 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?Hilariously, this is apparently exactly how you think it works for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:35 PM |
| -1 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?People already gave you the OKCupid evidence that proves what we are talking about. You didn't have any respect for us to begin with. I love how rpers cite this famed "OK Cupid evidence" yet ignore that in the real world couples are separated by an average of 2 years. So your OK Cupid evidence is really just evidence that women are realistic about their options and men are really, really not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Can women increase their SMV with personal development and skill-building?The cool thing is that in a relationship you can ask your partner for advice. Shockingly, some men value this as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?I am talking not about any actual need for a provider, but rather a desire for the feeling of being looked after and protected. This is something I have found to exist in most women I've discussed these things with (obviously relationships are a common topic of conversation) and in all of the women I've been in relationships with. But this is true for many people, no? According to rp endorsed posts, men want to be loved like their mother loved them. That's exactly what you describe here. I don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:19 PM |
| 10 | Verdict: Mad Max Fury Road has a feminist agenda especially for one glaring reason.dude-flick This might blow your mind, but, women like action movies too. I know, I know, it seems crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?In 2015 women still like to feel looked after It's easy to claim something intangible and difficult to prove like this. But it doesn't confirm anything except your own bias, and anyone with any critical thinking skills sees the gaping holes in this reasoning from miles away. I can imagine other people are "feeling" anything. Doesn't make it true. there's just no real obligation or requirement as there used to be. Which is your way of saying: "Okay, yes- objective facts show that women are choosi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Does dread game work on men too ?Not since 1950, friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 05:54 PM |
| 3 | Woman Realizes That She’s Been Accidentally Abusing Her Husband This Whole Time…[it] adds up to extra work for the person who does most of the cleaning and cooking, which is all well and good if your partner stays at home and cleaning up after you is literally their job, but if like most couples they have their own career and commitments it's going to get out of hand very quickly. Exactly. "The Second Shift." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/15 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?Yeah. For you it's an indicator that men suck, for me it's an indicator that women choose sucky men to father their children. I.e. part of the blame for the existence of single mother households still lies with, you guessed it, with the single mothers themselves. And this is disregarding all other possibilities (being widowed, leaving non-sucky husbands etc.). I'll remind you of that handy statistic from earlier: only 6% of households are single father Rather a lot less than a quarter plus singl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 06:05 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseDescriptive. Oh, good. I just wanted to make sure you were committed to being a disingenious ass. Can you explain what the similarity is from this to TRP? "This huge and varied group of people all act this insulting way because they are this type of innately deficient." No, I don't got it. When you pointed that out, I revised my statement and claimed only to believe the revised version. Which of my held beliefs do you disagree on? No, you didn't. You claimed you thought you did, much later. You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 04:58 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseI thought we were talking about misogyny. None of that's hateful. It's just descriptive. Tell me, do you find these statements hateful or descriptive? "Black people are intellectually deficient. They are incapable of performing at the level white people can." "Black people are more prone to violence. They find violence necessary for everyday functioning." You can claim the whistling kettle on your stovetop isn't hot all you'd like. Again- you're not fooling anyone. Which belief that I hold is de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 04:30 AM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseYou're trying to convince me that a post from 7 months ago that received barely any attention and hasn't been influential since is enough to represent the red pill and you're suspiciously silent about why you couldn't find a recent or popular post. Oh, like the rp sidebar perhaps? "Women are incapable of loving a man like a man loves women"? "Women: the smartest teenager in the house"? "Women find it necessary to cheat"? All straight from the sidebar. You're welcome! "You wrote this" and I go "M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 03:29 AM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseI thought I clarified, the first was typed poorly and I do not believe it. The clarification is my belief which you do not seem to disagree with. Oh, you thought you did? Neat. Unfortunately you did not. I described two jointly necessary components, that a post is old and that it is poorly known. You said that one of those conditions can still hold. I don't see what I'm supposed to take from this. No, you introduced the "little known" component after I proved your original claim ('reddit has a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 08:11 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseOh no, that's not a belief of mine. I already clarified it. Clarified it where? I haven't seen any clarification stating that you were wrong to claim that standardized testing was only implemented after boys began struggling in school (which is exactly what you claimed and demonstrably false. We've covered this). My belief that CHS categorized the situation just fine is correct because I can cite CHS saying it. What on earth are you going on about? I told you that your claim from earlier (I'll r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 07:56 PM |
| 5 | I've tried to understand the TRP perspective but there seem to be some falacies. Correct me if I'm wrong.If you're hypnotized into thinking women can do no wrong, you need TRP. Or perhaps you need to wake up and look at the world like a thinking, rational adult instead of subscribing to a "theory" which trumpets outdated pseudoscience (seriously, female brains stop maturing at 18?) to "prove" women are inferior overemotional manipulative childlike idiots? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 07:47 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseInstead of recalling the text, can you just tell me which thing you think that I believe which is wrong? Jesus you're tedious. The part where you claim standardized testing [to remind you yet again, standardized testing has been in use since the 70s] "came after the decline of boys in school" which occurred in the 90s. You recognize as much here: The shortchanged girl movement happened in the 90s and is largely responsible for the change in curriculum and lack of attention to boy's issues, accor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 07:33 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseI don't know what you're doing here. Are you critiquing beliefs that you think i hold? Trying to get me to defend beliefs I don't hold? I'm a bit confused. Somehow I'm not shocked at your confusion. Here, I'll refresh your hazy memory (no wonder you think half a year is an eternity): [dampeningsphere] No. I blame standardized testing. [you] So to be clear, you think that something which boys historically excel at and which came after the decline of boys in school, was the boys' undoing? Please e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 07:07 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseHe is significantly less fertile than a man in his early 20s. Will a peer reviewed study suffice? It is clear that aging has a significant impact on male sexual function, sperm parameters, and fertility. These changes contribute to decreased fecundability, increased time to conception, and increased miscarriage rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 07:02 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseMen have barely any limit on their fertility You are demonstrably, incredibly wrong. Think again, buddy. Also, if you think our primordial female ancestors weren't looking at the youngest, fastest, strongest, most virile males you're sadly mistaken. Plus that whole 'refractory period' deal becoming longer and longer as men age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 06:57 PM |
| 3 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseDear god you're boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 06:48 PM |
| 3 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseyou think its good to hate and abuse red pillers that behave more like women. Are you referencing the beard business again? Glad that you recognize these are analogous strategies. I already said I wasn't talking about simple concealer and that I was talking about trucked designed to manipulate. Is it manipulative for men to hide their facial shortcomings beneath beards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 06:24 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseNo need to begin with the assumption that I'm an idiot. You're allowed to clarify for what I meant if something seems off. A much smaller percentage of grading is things like tests than was the case in the 70s. Hard not to when you claim standardized testing was implemented "after the decline of boys in school" and it has, in fact, been in use since the 70s while boys weren't struggling until the 90s. I'm allowed to do anything I'd like to. Just like you're allowed to clarify how you weren't tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 06:20 PM |
| 3 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseYes, I already said what it is. You have no green card to get abusive when your beliefs are challenged. Thats just something you believe because of the feminist culture you are emerged in which doesn't apply in the rw. You haven't challenged any of my beliefs. What do you think is happening here? Stating that men can hide their facial imperfections with a beard (which conceals full time, unlike makeup)? Stating that most adult people can recognize makeup? That isn't 'abusive;' it's common sense.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 06:15 PM |
| 3 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseLook you sjw clown, when reality clashes with your beliefs, its not a green card to get abusive Ohhh touched a nerve, have I? What reality are we discussing- that your beard hides your libido-killing weak chin? Or that most rational adults know a woman's eyes aren't actually cat-shaped? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 06:00 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseSo to be clear, you think that something which boys historically excel at and which came after the decline of boys in school, was the boys' undoing? Please explain. Do you bother fact checking any of the nonsense you blather? Public school standardized testing has been in use since the 70s. As late as the early 90s boys were still outperforming girls in schools as the favored students. Well then can we also talk about the fact that the thing you're saying characterizes the red pill is so obscure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 05:57 PM |
| 4 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseAnd men can grow beards concealing a weak chin, unattractive jawline, or weird upper lip. Do I see women bemoaning this as a misleading "trick"? Nope. If you can't tell that a person's lips aren't actually shiny and blood red, it's not that they're playing some trick- it's that you're awfully densegullible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 05:41 PM |
| 6 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?Maybe you need to reframe the way you're looking at the situation. Yes, average women might have it "easier" than average men in the dating market. But all women bear a huge burden of personal responsibility when it comes to sex. You might get a woman pregnant, sure. That's a risk. But you'll never have to worry about becoming pregnant and all its attendant body changes and hormonal ramifications. You'll never have to experience the pain (physical and mental) of an abortion. You've never have to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Why is Feminism considered to be about equality?"Because it was possible for men to use force to enforce gender roles, patriarchy and gender roles are basically slavery, making any consensuality[sic] in this arrangement moot/impossible." That argument is so sweeping, so flimsy and ideology driven, that really why should I address it? Only fools seek to reason with the unreasonable. Can you consent to a lack of rights? 'Consent' implies that an individual's permission is required first. Your permission means nothing if it has no legal foundati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Why is Feminism considered to be about equality?Let's get this laughable business out of the way first: Now if you choose to respond again, please do me the favor of thinking rather than feeling, and resist the urge to hurl nearly-mindless invective and outrage at me. Your comment reeked of bad faith. Another like it and I sign off, because its just not worth it to argue with someone that wants to throw a temper tantrum. Please, quote this endless "invective and outrage" I apparently threw at you. There is absolutely nothing in my comment ree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Why is Feminism considered to be about equality?You're missing my point about historical patriarchy. It existed because for a long long time, because women had bigger fish to fry. Before the industrial age and modern medicine, an average woman couldn't realistically live independently! Unless she had a good education or independent means, her only real option for an income was prostitution.....See the thing is, patriarchy emerged not because women were being oppressed left and right (though I'm not implying that this didn't happen). It emerge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 12:17 AM |
| 2 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?That's my point. Why would you not be angry? If your baby miscarries or something, most women would be very upset about that. They're not like "oh wellz, it happens sometimes. YOLO." ...the fuck are you on? I don't think women need to be too concerned about you hating them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 11:07 PM |
| 8 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?You shouldn't hate women because it's stupid, shortsighted, and only really hurts yourself. You have met hundreds of creative, intelligent, caring, dynamic, funny, thought-provoking women in your life. Think of your mother, aunts, sisters, and grandmothers. Think of the teachers you've had in your life. Think of your doctors and nurses. Think of the service people you've met. Think of your neighbors, friends, and classmates. Think back on your life and truly tell me that none of the female peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?To me, dominant always stems itself into the strength and leadership category no matter the gender, but men enjoyed this more I think this is my largest issue: we assume that strength was the primary measure of leadership and not, say, ability to reason. Or the ability to create life (what could be more powerful?). We just can't know. It might seem likely when viewed through our modern biases. I just think it behooves us to deeply question these assumptions. And men are more expendable. This mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?Every society confronts the problem of civilizing its young males Wow... just wow. That people assume male children need to specifically "civilized" strikes me as shockingly misandrist. I don't think boys need to be civilized mainly because I don't think there's an innate problem with little boys. We both agree that "boys do not need to be rescued from their masculinity" mostly because 'masculinity' is a flawed concept. Boys aren't warriors. They're boys. And there was never a time in history wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Ehhh... men enjoy endurance advantage. That is the reason the Army has different standards for Physical Fitness Tests for both men and women. And this is the reason all sports separated men and women in endurance track events. Look at the Marathon times for men and women. Women are competitive with men only at the endurance level. Again, I'm not arguing that men aren't faster runners (narrow hips and longer legs will do that), I am introducing the idea that women are better suited to endurance r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?I know that it's normal for feminists have the tendency to concentrate on a subset of men (rich men, powerful men, criminals, abusers...), depending on what story you want to tell at the moment, but you have to specify what you mean by "huge proportions". Well over a quarter of American children are raised in single mother households where she is the primary (and often only) source of income. That's a pretty damn huge proportion. I thought we covered this earlier, no? For the record, only 6% of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?You're not refuting my point like you think you are. I am saying that women are physically weaker in all aspects compared to men (IE. Strength, Endurance). We're are not talking about age length or anything else. Women do survive longer than men, but that doesn't mean they can ruckmarch with 80+ lbs of gear for as many years as men can. Interesting that you mention endurance specifically. Women enjoy an advantage in endurance running due (in part) to their smaller size. And if you think our preh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?I honestly don't know about "most" RP types. I think a lot of TRPers are still fairly clueless about relationships (which isn't surprising, given that they are at a point in their lives when everyone is clueless about relationships, and that they are primarily focused on casual sex). But the RP model starts from the premise that your mother is the only woman, in your life, who will love you the way she does. All the other women are not going to give you that "mother love" (at least, not for any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Wait, what? How does a cause automatically override the personal decision making abilities of its members? ...Right. That's the difference between a cause and a cult. A member of one enjoys personal autonomy, a member of the other does not. I get that a rp wife could leave her husband (perhaps for being too controlling and deeming her inherently less capable because vagina?) but, as with cults, there are often severe consequences to doing so. Instead, it was a (in my head) "Yep - you're idea is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Yes, it is. Women are naturally less able to handle as much physical stress as men. They can't carry as much load on the knees nor run as effectively. Our bodies are inherently different. After a certain age men and women both deteriorate physically then in their youth. However, as I said above, due to our different anatomies women have a shorter physical shelf life then men do. Oh, do they? What an interesting conclusion you've made... and one that is completely, patently false. Women outlive m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?See, this? I completely agree with! I think everyone should be their own leader, it is so much more attractive than being so spineless as to need constant direction. I guess that's what bemuses me most about most rp types- they actually find that lack of personal accountability and direction preferable in a partner? Blows my mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?I'm noticing that your 'lone wolf' designation might mean you don't subscribe to the "men are all this way, women are all that way" traditional rp way of thought. If you think Captain/First Mate relationship models are generally more successful (and have seen evidence in your life of this), but do not believe that men are 'naturally' meant to take the leadership role I don't think we have an argument here, just a difference of opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?But following a cause means the cause now has final say in things related to the cause and gets to dictate the big decisions related to the cause. This only overrides the personal decision making ability of its members in the case of a cult, and only in the case of a cult. The analogy still doesn't work, sorry. I don't give a shit about what my wife decides to do regarding those things that have no bearing on our relationship. But when it comes to the relationship, I do. Sure, as do most people.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?As an aside, I think they were much more important in those days because they provided a whole lot of value. I'm pretty sure half our population isn't somehow now magically less valuable than the other half because 'society.' But I would argue that as women aged their ability to sustain this sort of efficiency fell as men could hold up this sort of streneous effort for much longer as they age. This is not factual. Also, I would argue that men held the leadership positions especially as strength … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?As an example I will cite agricultural societies ranging from the Egyptians right through to the industrial revolution - with the need for hunting abolished by animal husbandry, it was the men that became responsible for producing most of the calories for the family through agrarian farming (as well as the animal husbandry for the still-essential protein). This is simply not true. In rural mountainous Albania a patriarchal culture persists even today with what we would view as a very strict gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Following a cause doesn't mean that the cause now has final say in your personal life and gets to dictate the big decisions. When that is the case we refer to these "causes" as cults. For a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?That's why supplicating to a man is no bueno. The woman has just given up her commitment to her family's health and future in favor of "making her husband happy." He is now elevated over the marriage and family, and no marriage/family can exist like that for long. A marriage is bigger than either participant in the marriage, and needs to be treated as such to survive. From an even more practical standpoint in non-family situations, women need to be in charge of their own lives, happiness, satisf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Early humans were hunter-gatherers. For the most part, men would go out to hunt the wildlife while the women went out to gather the land. On top of gathering women would care to the camp and the children in a communal style setting........The males were obviously the stronger gender so they were the ones that the led the group, protected it from predators, did most of the intensive labor, and scouted. Hence, they were the fucking leaders. In these societies leadership wasn't rooted in one centra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?What, did you want me to elaborate on more characteristics of women as a creature, that make them incapable/not comfortable with leading men? You can ask me that. Oh may I? You can similarly go ahead and expound on that. The women who lead just follow the example of men. They're just trying to get to the level that men are already at. But at the end of the day, men are just...better at it. Disagree with the first point, agree with the second (women finally have the chance, I happen to think that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?She doesn't like having to set all the boundaries, she doesn't like having to dictate our course, she doesn't like feeling like I am not looking out for her interests, she doesn't like me, essentially, not being a leader. Perhaps those women feel similarly. Absolutely possible. Do I think it's 95% likely (as rp thought dictates)? Do I think it is uniquely female nature to crave a 'leader' this way? Absolutely not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 11:43 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Not sure what's circular about that. ...Really? Let me refresh you on the exchange, I'll italicize myself: Because women aren't that type of creature. Like, where could a woman lead me? What type of creature? A creature capable of leading men. If you're unable to see how your reasoning is the definition of 'circular' there, I really can't help you. women aren't capable of nor comfortable leading men. Women aren't that type of creature. Where are you getting this information from? Why ignore all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 08:31 PM |
| 3 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?Not familiar with the book but if your beliefs echo it I'd probably have no issues with it at all. I don't really care what the subreddit says (as it doesn't affect me on a personal level at all), but it does worry me that the young and impressionable (reddit's population is in large part male teenagers, I believe?) will read that utter tripe and believe it to be true. Anyhow, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what rp means to you and in your marriage- thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?A creature capable of leading men Digging the circular definition thing you have happening. It's like fun Orwelian doublespeak! Being #2 doesn't mean being a slave. When you are not in charge of making decisions in your personal life that is absolutely a lack of autonomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Oh bless your heart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Because he added that she actually is a person with friends too. In another comment. Which really, truly shouldn't be that difficult for you to grasp. I'm sure she has close friends! But these are not her close friends whose husbands he likes. They are his close friends whose wives she has developed friendships with. Simply not the same animal, sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?And. Haircomb. clearly. was. responding. to. the. question. of. the. OP. Helpful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Oh no. Oh heavens. He neglected to mention his wife in one sentence? She must not be allowed to have friends either. I bet she's oppressed too! You better save her from his evil clutches! He didn't say "my wife's friends." He said "my friends." It is you who lack any semblance of an argument. You are failing to see the very real distinction between "wife of my friend" and "my wife's friend." It really, truly should not be that difficult for you to grasp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Because women aren't that type of creature. Like, where could a woman lead me? What type of creature? They're not happy being #2 to a guy who's not better than them. That's the key. If your girl doesn't believe that you're better than her then she won't be comfortable with you leading. It's like when soldiers don't respect or trust their captain because they feel he's weak. That's why I said that not every man is a capable leader. You gotta grow into that role I simply disagree with this line of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?I'll remind you of the OP question, targeted at rp: "Do you believe women should be led by men?" Rp does profess this belief about marriages, as we discussed prior. Haircomb responded to the above question by arguing that nobody should be lead in this way by another person, because we all have the same doubts, struggles, lack of omniscience, etc. Nobody is born 'superior' in these ways because they happen to have a penis. That you, amongst others, incorrectly view the leader of a social movement… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Reading comprehension is such a wonderful thing, wouldn't you agree? I do agree! See below for a great example: In fact, all of my friends, colleagues, and business partners are leaders in their marriages and in business. Important bit has been bolded for your reading comprehension ease. I have no way of knowing this, but my guess would be yes. And if the wives in question have no problem with it then you are wasting your energy making it a problem for you. Luckily it's not a problem for me- I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?My wife's thoughts on any important decision are heard and respected. But ultimately, in a marriage, decisions need to be made. I take her input and use my judgment to determine the best course for our family. Right, I'd argue that the vast majority of people prefer to have autonomy (which may often take the form of compromise in decision making) when it comes to their lives. Male and female both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Okay. I think we have nothing to discuss, then? Because as I understand it, rp believes that in "leading a marriage" men should "make the big decisions" and "have the final say." I do not believe the above is comparable to an individual choosing to follow a cause because one of its voices really spoke to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?when married women get together and talk about their husbands they either jump on a complain train complaining or praising....you, again, have no way to know that they are lying to a girl friend. ...This isn't a "girl friend." It is the wife of their husband's close friend. Again, really important distinction. He said they were the leaders of their businesses and marriages. Okay, so what does this mean? Is he in charge of all his and her major decisions? Is his say final? You keep editing minute… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:36 PM |
| 4 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Mostly because of how we evolved. The man was always the one leading the pack, protecting, and venturing out. Interesting. Where did you find this definitive information of how our early human ancestors functioned? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:16 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Why don't you define what you/ rp mean by "Women should be led by men" to make this easier on both of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?You have no way to determine that they are censoring themselves. Common sense. If you don't want your (rich, powerful) husband to know you're unhappy you don't reveal it to his close friend or his close friend's wife. And seriously? First he's not talking to them, then his wife's talking to him but they're lying? Well, yeah. That's the order in which he revealed the information. Is it that hard for you to imagine women being comfortable with a man in charge? A man in charge of a situation? Absol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Is food a greater pleasure to women than sex is?I can honestly say I've spoken with many of my close female friends and they all picture something. For some it's about a specific scenario, for some it's about a specific person. But there's always a visual. Anyhow, that's nuts to me that you picture nothing! What is in your mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Sure. But what does this prove? People are choosing to "follow" the cause, as a part of their lives. It's about personal autonomy. Living a life devoid of outside influences is both extremely hard and pretty damn stupid. Choosing to support causes or individuals who speak to you is leading your own life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:03 PM |
| 3 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?And I really do understand where you're coming from, but again: they are speaking with the wife of their husband's friend. They will be censoring those conversations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:58 PM |
| 5 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?But you're having real, honest conversations with your friends- not their wives. I think that's a hugely important distinction. You don't really know how these women feel because you are their husband's friend. You know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:54 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?I think there's an idea that to be RP is to be a very specific type of person, or that it means we all think we have the universal answers that everyone else should follow. Yeah, it seems like most rp people, and definitely the 'Red Pill Endorsed,' are very much "women function this way, men function that way, everyone who disagrees is stupid and blind." When that's coupled with their ideas about the ways "women function" ('smartest teenager,' 'honorless,' 'hamsters,' hypergamous,' etc etc etc),… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?But but..."everyone should lead themselves the way they can..." because reasons. Huh. I wasn't aware that inspiring people to take action as the voice of a social movement was the same as compulsory military service. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Women are fun junkies Isn't everyone a "fun junkie"? We either do the things we like (hobbies, etc) or we do hard things we don't like to make those fun things possible (school, work, etc). Of course, some people enjoy their work (and school), and these people are lucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?Absolutely agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?there's really nowhere a woman could lead a man. Why? I've never met a man in my entire life, nor have a heard of a man someone else has met, that is happy being #2 to his woman. I've never met a woman who was happy being #2 to her man. Some that act happy for a spell, sure. And then years down the line the bubbling resentment at being treated as, well, #2 comes surging to the surface (divorce, infidelity, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:37 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?and also glad that I was able to give him some of my good years when I was working to support us I completely understand that. I think in your case or similar cases it does make total sense to settle down young. I just feel like it's the wrong move for a lot of people, you know? I certainly don't think fear of the future is good reason for rushing into such a monumental decision. This is something that bothers me about rp/rpw- it seems like they are telling young (and I mean young) women to fear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:05 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?I feel like there is a slight dig there about me not being the norm because plenty of women mature intellectually and emotionally. No, not at all! Sorry, I was speaking in reference to how you described your husband's maturation. I meant you weren't the norm vis-à-vis your disability, and was focusing on this comment specifically: But the fact remains that I'm glad I found him while I was young because I don't think I could have done as well otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 05:55 PM |
| 3 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?Youthful looks don't have to be everything. As long as they are something significant (and they clearly are) then your chances of hooking a good man reduce every year... Because good men have options... Youthful looks matter... And every year you get older, your competition stays the same age. I disagree with this. Youthful looks matter to everyone. You think your primordial female ancestors wanted anyone but the youngest males- the strongest, fastest, highest endurance partners? Fortunately we'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 05:42 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?Okay, but you are not the norm. There are plenty of women who mature beautifully as a person (both intellectually and emotionally), become crazy successful in their fields, and even - gasp! - look better in their 30s. It can work this way for women, too. All that said, I'm glad that you have your husband and I hope that he views you as favorably as you view him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 05:31 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?I see problem... I rush to go and do 1001 other things because solutions are scary and hard. So I'll go have fun dicking around on the internet instead Many people find debating with zealous idiots on the internet a fun, relaxing pastime. It is a way to let off steam. Not everything in life has to be a "solution," nor - as most healthy people would argue - should it be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 05:23 PM |
| 6 | If TRP is right then why is it the best strategy for women to marry young ?It's delusional to say that a person who requires only attractiveness in their partner is a shallow, worthless individual? Huh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Is food a greater pleasure to women than sex is?She's an outlier. Most people, male and female both, require (I suppose you could also say 'strongly prefer') mental/visual stimulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 05:06 PM |
| 0 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?You can't have read a lot of RP stuff if you haven't noticed the presentation these guys get. Apart from the group of husbands that have been divorced (and as such are hardly the only ones responsible for the children growing up in a single parent household), those guys indiscriminately impregnate women and bail aren't exactly considered to be "high value". Which of course also says something about those women who fall for them. Interesting. So although men are biologically driven by honor and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Can we discuss human sexual response in terms of "Lizard Brain" and "Mammal Brain" ? Is this useful ?And not what you are hearing with your neuroscience hat on. Hahahaha "you and your ridiculous science with its stupid verifiable facts." You guys utterly slay me. I love it! I have done little more than dip my toe in Oh honey... you haven't dipped anything :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Can we discuss human sexual response in terms of "Lizard Brain" and "Mammal Brain" ? Is this useful ?He can't, because there is exactly zero proof of it. I especially love that he believes More women will exhibit "behaviours[sic] associated with teenage humans" than would males of the same age. when it directly contradicts the actual, recorded rates of 18-22 year old men vs. women getting arrested, getting into car accidents, landing themselves in the hospital, hell- even the gendered difference in college students failing or skipping classes. Oh, red pill. You amuse me so very much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Blue pills/feminists verify just how correct Red pill values areZip-less Fuck redux. AFBB. And short-change the guys who would commit. Where is the short-change? Doesn't this exactly mirror the (red pill endorsed) advice regarding girls you should "plate" vs. those who are ltr material? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want.Yes, I am much better at this. Something we can all agree on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want.None of the bolded bits sound the slightest bit angry, but nice try? You should take your own advice and work a little harder. Mostly, though, understanding emotion from other people's cues happens subconsciously. It's a skill people naturally have to various degrees. I couldn't point to a single part of the text and say "This is why TC is angry", but the whole conveys an impression that TC is feeling at least a little angry. This is a skill you lack. The only cues you have available here are te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 05:33 PM |
| 0 | The Slut/Stud Double Standard would lose relevance if people stopped punishing women for casual sexI would totally re live through all the years of being a loser and made fun of and bullied and beat up if I could wife up a hot teenage virgin in a few years. Oh my god, this is so beautifully rich. Y'all are the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 05:26 PM |
| 5 | Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want.Nothing in any of TroopCaptain's posts sounds the slightest bit angry. Perhaps you could helpfully point out where Troop comes across as "very angry" for everybody? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 05:13 PM |
| 0 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?Did you even bother to check these numbers or are just parroting feminist sources (you know, the ones that came up with the 77%-myth or the 1 in 5-myth in the first place)? Let's take a look at the New York Times. You're correct, I misread the Pew article I was citing. Still- what of those 'single mother' households? I notice you completely neglected to answer me on that front. Where are these fathers, who are - according to you - both culturally and biologically driven to provide? Here's anothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/15 06:21 PM |
| 0 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?Why are women more likely to not have to support a family as the sole breadwinner, more likely to get away with not earning very much, more likely to be accepted as a SAHP by their partners? Oh right, culture, because women are culturally indoctrinated to prefer guys who earn decent money and men are culturally indoctrinated to prefer women who complement them to such a degree that they even feel drawn to them on a gut level. The patriarchy is truly insidious. Apart from that: propensity for ris… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/15 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?Incentive. Men who work often enough have a family to support - they simply need the money. And even if they don't have a family support, being able to afford a better lifestyle for bragging rights is a nice perk if you want to win over women (because contrary to popular belief, earning a lot of money actually does draw female attention). Well that really seems like a cultural explanation, doesn't it? Really rather at odds with your whole "biological determinism" argument from before. Women who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/15 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Question to TRP: What exactly do you think TBPillers believe ?Take for example the wage gap: this can largely be explained by men working in different trades and also negotiating more. However, instead of accepting men and women are different, feminists state that women get discouraged from entering male trades because they get bombarded with messages that they are inadequate when it comes to traditionally male subjects [and] women get raised to be compliant and acommodating and therefore grow up to be too much of a doormat to put their foot on the ground … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/15 05:17 PM |
| 1 | There Is Another Way, And The 1% Have Practiced It For Centuriesthe sole purpose that, for better or worse, evolution has given them. The "sole purpose" of all humanity, evolutionarily speaking, is to propagate the species. Men and women both. You are not special and unaffected by biological drives because you are male. You want to father children and, yes, care for them. You are evolutionarily conditioned to feel this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/15 10:39 PM |
| 1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselAt best you've shown slightly risky effects, certainly no proof of "hugely", do you have some better evidence to support that?At best you've shown slightly risky effects, certainly no proof of "hugely", do you have some better evidence to support that? Every study I've posted has recognized that mothers 15 years old or younger face significant risks unrelated to outside factors. Just... accept it. You are arguing against science. You are wrong. If women are meant to get pregnant at any age, why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/15 11:01 PM |
| 1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselBirds naturally fly because nature gave them wings, 13 year olds naturally have kids because nature started having them release eggs. I see we've circled back to this concept of a "process" and your inability to comprehend it. "Puberty is the process of physical changes through which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction to enable fertilization". Menarche marks the very beginning of this process. A girl's body is not adequately developed for pregnancy at this s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 12:53 AM |
| 1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselI guess you can tell you are doing well in a debate if the other side has resorted to calling you a pedophile. Oh, dear. No. No, you are decidedly not doing well. I'm just increasingly dismayed to see that despite all evidence to the contrary (anovulatory cycles, higher rates of miscarriage, lower levels of fertility hormones, etc) you continue to insist that girls at 12 years old are perfectly able and 'naturally meant' to become pregnant. Rather telling that you addressed nothing else I noted.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/15 05:39 PM |
| 1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselSure fertility peaks at in the 20's but fertility starts at the menarche for a reason, and there's simply no arguing with that, it's the way evolution designed us. As I handily demonstrated, pregnancy should not occur at menarche. In fact, nature conceived of several neat ways to prevent pregnancy at this underdeveloped age: anovulatory cycles, higher rates of miscarriage, lower fertility, etc etc. You are frighteningly invested in the idea that young girls are "naturally" suited for pregnancy. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/15 04:53 PM |
| 2 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselThere are stages, and one of them lets you have kids, that's the one that evolution wants you to start having them at. You're not arguing against me, you're arguing against what evolution itself designed. Look at animals, there's no "waiting period" after they first start passing eggs, that point is the time they start seeking out mates and mates start seeking them out. Huh. Interesting that fertility peaks in the 20s for women if evolution designed us to have babies at menarche. Doubly interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/15 09:55 PM |
| 2 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselIf we weren't supposed to have children then, why are we able to? Evolution is a powerful thing, our bodies were designed that way for a reason. Ovulation already occurs later in humans than other apes, if it was advantageous for it to be even later, why wouldn't evolution have figured that part out before we even began to speak? Evolution, much like puberty, is a process. You seem to have issues with this concept so I'll expound a bit: a process is something that is ongoing; it has different ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/15 06:28 PM |
| 3 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselYou are wrong. It's okay, I know this is difficult for you. Deep breathing and all that. Again: puberty is the process of the body becoming sexually mature. Menarche occurs at the beginning of this process. Understand now? Nature is not as arbitrary, it gave them a very concrete time they can begin to have children, and it's at their first menstration[sic] Adolescents age 15 through 19 are twice as likely to die during pregnancy or child birth as those over age 20; girls under age 15 are five ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/15 05:13 PM |
| 1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselNope, wrong again. Socioeconomic conditions are more associated with higher risks in late teen pregnancies. And even when controlling for these risk factors, many risks are still connected to the biological age of the mother alone. Really, it depends when the child reaches menarche and how much her body has developed. Puberty is a process, and a period is a handy marker for determining the beginning of this process. Did you skip your health classes? This red pill wet dream of 12 year old childbr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/15 04:37 PM |
| -1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselI never said they were. Where did I say "immune"? That's right, I didn't say it, you did. Just like every blooper that can't debate here without putting words in my mouth. In fact, what you said was: Without contraception, there would literally be a world full of disease-ridden whores, running around with a basketball team of babies in tow, and men would more easily know to avoid committing to her. Men that, apparently, don't have any sexually transmitted diseases of their own to worry about. Go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/15 11:45 PM |
| 1 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselIf it were up to evolution, they'd be doing it way way earlier than their 20's Nope. Adolescent mothers face much higher rates of birth complications, maternity related issues, and death. Their babies face similarly higher risks. Evolution would therefore favor mothers outside the adolescent age range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/15 11:28 PM |
| 5 | EvoPsych and the Cock CarouselWomen have been using non-chemical birth control methods and abortifacients (generally plant derived) since time immemorial. This revisionist history you lot have concocted is hilarious. Also, this might shock you, but men aren't immune to sexual diseases. Just wanted to give you a heads up, though I somehow doubt your health is at any particular risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/15 11:02 PM |
| 1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.LOL, pointing out that every observance of primates is not relevant to humans is not ignoring an entire field. Well, firstly, that's not what you did. You discounted a very relevant example of social structure in one of our very most closely related primate cousins. It is absolutely relevant in regards to humanity's earliest social structures. This hasn't been proved. It could just as easily be due to bisexual men, as I've just pointed out. Bisexual men have a much higher incidence of STDs. Aren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/15 06:04 PM |
| 1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.You stated: Bonobos aren't humans. How's that for anthropological evidence? In response to my assertion that: "Also, bonobos function with a matriarchal structure, and are one of our most closely related extant primate cousins. How's that for observable anthropological evidence?" You were discounting my assertion based on the fact that bonobos are a separate species. You completely ignored that primatology is considered an extremely viable discipline for making scientific inference concerning ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 06:48 PM |
| 1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate."I have no counter evidence, so I'm going to dismiss your barely fifteen year old study as being 'too old' even when my camp cites sources from the 1800s as factual evidence." Oh, okay then. I'm still waiting for your sources.... Especially since men who have sex with men are in the highest risk group. And how does this disprove my point, exactly? According to your logic, indirect risk would only increase for women. I'm not discounting biological anthropology. Funny, as you did exactly that: Bon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 05:55 PM |
| 1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.It's a link to a peer-reviewed study appearing in an international journal. Where's your evidence? It's embarrassingly misguided if it did not account for the differences in homosexual and heterosexual activity, and the consequence differences in STD risks for those men and women. Shame that it focused exclusively on "women's and men's potential risk of infection with STDs through vaginal heterosexual intercourse." But nice try? Bonobos aren't humans. How's that for anthropological evidence? Oh,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 05:38 PM |
| 0 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.It may be true that women have a higher risk sleeping with men with higher partner counts, but that isn't what makes them sluts. Led me to believe you were keeping up. Here, I'll provided some decidedly non-theoretical facts for you: A higher proportion of women are at indirect risk of STD exposure (risk associated with having sex with a man who has had multiple partners) than direct risk (risk associated with the woman herself having sex with multiple partners): "In all, 21% of women were at di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 05:20 PM |
| -1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.You make theoretical points, but it isn't what we see in the real world is it? "Let's ignore actual facts, because societal myth feelz so much more real." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 05:02 PM |
| -1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.I truly apologize, I assumed this was common knowledge. Also, do you really think you're making a trump argument when the cdc article linked is specifically tailored to women? How cute. Here you go: "Most men who get HPV never develop symptoms and the infection usually goes away completely by itself....there is currently no approved test for HPV in men." "Men can shed infectious herpes virus through normal-appearing genital skin." A higher proportion of women are at indirect risk of STD exposure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?And many studies have found a correlation with the husband's premarital partner count and marital unhappiness. Like the study I so helpfully linked above (which is an actual study, not a collection of infographs), and you decided to ignore. I'm perfectly comfortable agreeing that a higher premarital partner count is correlated to marital unhappiness. For both partners. Stop pretending this only applies to women, it is hugely disingenuous. Oh, and: "women with more experience may be aware of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 04:06 PM |
| -1 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.Your source details why it is riskier for women to sleep with a high partner count man than it is for men to sleep with a high partner count woman. And my point still stands. According to the science you reference a woman should be biologically inclined to stay far away from high count "alphas" and instead prefer extremely low count "betas" or virgins. Men shouldn't care nearly as much about a woman's partner count because it poses a much lesser threat. You can't ignore the flip side to your arg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 03:58 PM |
| -2 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.He is much, much, much more likely to be asymptomatically carrying an STD than the 'unbangable' betas you lot continually reference. So it greatly benefits women to stay far, far away from such men and instead sleep with virgins or extremely low count men: biology! It works both ways. It constantly amuses me how very much red pill wants to have its cake and eat it too. You can't claim FACTS!SCIENCE!BIOTRUTH! to back your ridiculous claims and then conveniently ignore when the science works again… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 03:54 PM |
| -4 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.Oh, honey. Nobody here is bending facts, you're just not able to effectively understand them. A woman’s anatomy can place her at a unique risk for STD infection, compared to a man. Exactly, so why risk having sex with a high partner count man? He is much, much, much more likely to be carrying an STD asymptomatically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 07:02 AM |
| 2 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.The word you're looking for is 'palate.' A 'pallet' is a platform or crude bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 06:58 AM |
| -2 | The "Slut vs. Stud" debate.Your source details why it is riskier for women to sleep with a high partner count man than it is for men to sleep with a high partner count woman. You are literally arguing against your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/15 06:48 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?Reporting lower marital satisfaction is not the same as being miserable in a marriage. Also, I can't seem to find the degree of difference in the report. Reporting lower marital satisfaction that amounts to a percentage of, let's say 2% less is - though statistically significant - probably not significant enough to warrant unhappiness or divorce. This report found that men with higher premarital partner count were less satisfied with their marriages. Where does this leave your argument? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?Oh yeah, it's the happy women who divorce, is basically what you're saying. Where have I said this? It is a stretch to interpret any data beyond what it explicitly shows. Your 'proof' is a trite cliche most people find laughable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 07:14 PM |
| 0 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?Is it a stretch that those with lower satisfaction are those that are going to cheat, be a huge bitch, or divorce? Yes. Stop stretching. Take your own advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 07:07 PM |
| 0 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?Interesting that you ignored this portion: Men and women who only slept with their (future) spouse prior to marriage reported higher marital quality than those who had other sexual partners as well. For both genders. That women report lower satisfaction in marriages when they've had more sexual experience doesn't say anything about their 'quality' as a partner at all. So your charming statement that: Sluts make awful wives, we've known this for eons. doesn't really hold up at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 06:53 PM |
| 0 | If alpha/fucks beta bucks is present in society, will men not continue to be adopt more RP values?not directly rejecting them but would have if they were to come in contact with them. Just... what? People, men and women both, change over time. Things that were attractive to you in college now seem laughably unimportant. It also strikes me as deeply misguided and self-sabotaging to assume that every person who likes you now was totally a superficial asshole that would've turned you down if you had met years earlier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 06:31 PM |
| 2 | If alpha/fucks beta bucks is present in society, will men not continue to be adopt more RP values?"looks don't matter that much as character to me" or "I am not that superficial" Isn't that exactly how sane individuals qualify this "AFBB" myth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?You've provided nothing of scientific value, and she has detailed exactly that above: your "sources" are either drivel written with an agenda, or one flawed study that ignores hugely important factors (such as religiousness). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Redpillers: Would you say you are a social conservative who thinks that ALL women should subscribe to traditional feminine gender roles?you mean the system that worked for hundreds of thousands of years (or four thousand years according to religious fundamentalists LOL)? Did it work? Or have cultures largely collapsed over the course of history, regardless of whether they used this 'perfect system'? Men didn't exactly have a picnic of things - we did the heavy lifting, the hunting and the gathering to make sure our women were provided for. An interesting point of view that runs in direct contradiction to the best available data … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Is it really fair to rely so much on evolutionary biology for things like dating?'Status' meaning wealth and social standing (i.e. "power") - which is how you were using the term - is a socially determined concept. Obviously the largest and strongest males will enjoy better access to food and mates. Because they can kill their competitors. Again, this is seen only in some species, and is not witnessed in some of our closest living relatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 05:08 PM |
| 4 | Do women want chaste men?The preoccupation involved in creating, naming, and endlessly discussing this character is incredibly odd. Wanting to be built and nicely endowed is much, much less so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 11:59 PM |
| 4 | Do women want chaste men?It's deliberately dense to pretend you were pointing out a preoccupation rather than delivering a subtle homophobic insult. Interesting, because what I said was: Ah yes, the 'Chad Thundercock' stereotype created by men, utilized by men, and popularized by men in a male oriented sub. Y'all are deeply, deeply weird. And oddly obsessed with big-dicked lotharios. I was pointing out that ole Chad here was a figment only of the red pill movement's imagination, not a socially recognized archetype. I al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Is it really fair to rely so much on evolutionary biology for things like dating?Status is a biologically attractive trait for women, like wanting to mate with the strongest male in the pack. No. 'Status' and 'wealth' are both societal concepts. Neither were valued by our primordial ancestors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 11:53 PM |
| 7 | Do women want chaste men?It's 'deliberately dense' to find this preoccupation with well endowed, muscular Casanovas odd for straight men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 08:43 PM |
| 4 | Do women want chaste men?Nobody is accusing you of being gay- it wouldn't be that odd for you to ruminate endlessly on said big-dicked lotharios if you were. It's not homophobic to label this preoccupation as an obsessive or strange pastime for straight men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 08:03 PM |
| -1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"I would consider a threesome a sexually advanced act. It takes a certain amount of courage and adventurous spirit to engage in one, more so than having sex with lots of people one on one. This is why I define it as sexually experienced. Most people define 'sexually experienced' as being ...sexually experienced. I don't think they qualify based on adventurousness. That would be under the umbrella of "sexual adventurousness." Words have specific meanings! I have a question for you: If a person is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 07:18 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"From her initial post, they had simply never discussed it. She didn't know she had to disclose her sexual habits from decades past because it was never brought up. His view of me has been irreparably changed and he no longer sees me "as someone worthy of being [his] wife". I'm confused as to why you think this is proof he desired someone inexperienced. Or is anyone who hasn't taken part in a threesome 'inexperienced' in your opinion, even if they have had lots of other sexual experiences? FBB is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:55 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Your incredibly well thought out response of "whatever I don't wan't that woman anyhow" clearly deserved more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Is it really fair to rely so much on evolutionary biology for things like dating?Certain things can't be denied as being attractive such as facial symmetry, smooth and flawless skin etc. Those are considered markers of health in both genders, and yes- biologically attractive. Being 'dominant' is arguably unattractive as a mate quality on biological grounds, and there is no biological basis for valuing wealth. That is a societally determined attractive trait. Much of what we consider attractive is societally determined; your assertion that you are 'hardwired' to sexually desi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:50 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Bottom line is, the minute a woman turns me down for the same level of sex that she gave to other men, she's gone. And many men feel exactly the same way. You're doing her an immeasurable favor by removing yourself from her life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:43 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"The incentive is that if a girl wants a specific guy for marriage, but the guy wants a girl who is sexually inexperienced, or a low partner count, the girl has an incentive to lie or non-disclose her past to him to make her seem life the kind of girl he wants. I wasn't aware that the linked post involved him wanting someone sexually inexperienced. Instead, it involved a couple who did not discuss their past parters (which is, again, considered normal and healthy by most people) and a woman who w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Is it really fair to rely so much on evolutionary biology for things like dating?Happy I could help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:31 PM |
| 0 | Is it really fair to rely so much on evolutionary biology for things like dating?Just like I'm a slave to big boobs and asses, women are slaves to certain characteristics in males. Not all men are sexually aroused by large breasts and asses, not all men are aroused by both, some men aren't aroused by either (and instead focus on small breasts or asses, legs, faces, necks, feet, etc etc). Humans are widely varied in what they find attractive. In many cultures breasts aren't sexualized at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Is it really fair to rely so much on evolutionary biology for things like dating?'Enamored of' or 'with' but never 'to.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:21 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"What is the incentive? I don't detail my sexual past to my partners, and every single person I've discussed this with in my life - male and female - has agreed this is preferable. People don't generally care to hear about your past fucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:16 PM |
| 1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"It boggles me that you assume casual college sex involves 'douchebags' using their partners as 'rags' or 'dolls.' Is that how you operated? It's not how most humans operate. It's also rather amusing that you continue to conflate 'passionate sex' with 'adventurous sex.' Passionate sex, to many (if not most) people involves deep feelings and tenderness for the other person. It really does not carry any connotations of adventurousness. Adventurous sex is exactly that: you are exploring new territor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 06:12 PM |
| -1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Problem with your corollary is that I don't think very many men are into that to begin with. You would be very surprised. But I'm glad to see you think the same logic applies between the sexes, at least. I'd argue that nobody is 'required' to offer anything they used to enjoy a decade ago but no longer find pleasurable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Is that her argument? Above she states that having a 'chaperone' meant no little girls were ever raped or sexually violated. But little girls have always been raped, and we just largely acknowledge how horrific it is in today's world (because, yes, we now recognize that women are people). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 05:06 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"And again, I'll offer the corollary: what if the wife is interested in anally penetrating her husband? Is he similarly required to offer this for her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 05:02 PM |
| -1 | Do women judge men's sexual past?If he had visited prostitutes, I'd have a huge issue with that as our current prostitution market has huge issues with human trafficking and underage victims. Exactly this. They are not comparable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 04:16 PM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Maybe they even liked something for a while but they aged, their body changed and it's no longer pleasurable. I've repeated this portion of my argument above. A decade is a long time, and bodies and people do change significantly over this course of time. So I'll ask again: doesn't it seem awfully misguided to expect to experience who somebody was 10 years ago? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 04:03 PM |
| -1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"And if you are comparing a fairly vanilla sexual experience to a 'cocaine fueled gangbang" I'd advise you to look in the mirror. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Better sexual education programs could have a huge effect on boys who do not recognize behaviors they practice as rape and girls who find sexual violence a 'normal' and 'expected' facet of romantic relationships "Have you ever considered that boys aren't the only people with agency and perhaps girls encourage shitty behavior by rewarding those who display it? By all means, good luck teaching girls not to love guys that are (excessively) assertive. I am sure it will be a smashing success." I'm no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 03:57 PM |
| -1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Where does this end? Are you meant to detail every sexual experience you've had with every sexual partner you've ever had? Every middle school kiss? It seems absurd to me anyone should care who their partner was intimate with when they were a decade younger. Why do you feel this information is important? Do you feel that your youthful sexual experiences say anything particularly relevant and important about you that other facets of your person wouldn't reveal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 03:40 PM |
| 7 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"How good the sexual encounter is entirely depends on the man (we do all the work). This tells me you've never experienced an engaged, enthusiastic, active partner. If a woman is attracted enough to a guy she will let him do anything he wants sexually. This tells me why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 02:28 AM |
| 3 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"You and your prostate are sorely missing out. But judging from your comments your sex life seems generally disappointing, so I'm not terribly surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 02:22 AM |
| 1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"That seems a self-evident and wholly unnecessary comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 02:06 AM |
| 3 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Wow, you sure love moving those goalposts. Is this about women as a whole being too picky? Or is it about older women having standards you don't agree with? Make up your mind. Also, if women past the age of 30 are so wholly irrelevant to you, why do you care at all about a blog that is not meant to target you as its audience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 02:03 AM |
| 4 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"I wager that if it bothered them sufficiently they'd find another man who was more compatible with their expectations and needs. Which is what I'd urge any adult to do over feeling entitled to experience who a person was 10 years ago. That's not realistic. In fact, it's fucking stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 02:01 AM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Funny about how everything you talk about is what is "uncomfortable" for the woman with no regard whatsoever for the desires of her husband. It's all about me, me, me, me. I don't like this anymore, I don't do that anymore...I pity the man who married/marries you. Actually, I first offered the analogous 'pegging' example. And hilariously, I have not once mentioned my sex. You assume I'm female, why exactly? Fact remains. Women give their best, most passionate, most adventurous sex away for free … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:52 AM |
| 3 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Or like the balding, lazy men with enormous beer guts who demand a thin, toned 'naturally gorgeous' woman to do his housework and sexual bidding? There are assholes everywhere, it is definitely not the purview of one sex. And I was suggesting that there was another way of reading the OK Cupid data. Perhaps women do tend to be 'pickier' - they biologically carry disproportionate reproductive burden, so it would make sense from a purely biological standpoint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:45 AM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"I'm not about to formulate a research paper just because somebody on the internet told me to. I simply asked you to source your outlandish claims. You're unable to for a reason. (Hint: it's because you are wrong.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:40 AM |
| 6 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"For someone who disparages ad hominem attacks you sure do love employing them. So lemme get this straight: when you were letting random college dudes shove their dicks up your colon, you were secure with it then. But now, with the man you supposedly love eternally and will spend the rest of your life with, whom you should want to please sexually, emotionally, and spiritually, now you are not feeling secure enough with him to allow him to anally penetrate you...secure with the alpha cock-bros, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:37 AM |
| 1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"A recent OKCupid study revealed that women rate 80% of men to be "below average", while men rate 60% of women to be "above average". Men are much more accepting of women that women are of men in the haaawt department. Or perhaps women simply tend to be more attractive on the whole as a sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:28 AM |
| 6 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Oh what an excellent, completely unbiased, unanecdotal example with a data point of exactly one! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:25 AM |
| 4 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Why do you people always fall back to the "insecure" word? Can you formulate a thought on this subject without an Ad Hominem attack on the man's manhood? Because the definition of emotional insecurity is feeling that you are inferior. If you did not have this fear, comparing yourself to your significant other's past partners would not be such a threatening exercise. It wouldn't be an exercise at all, because it simply would not matter to you. Confidence is sexy, in both sexes and to both sexes. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:18 AM |
| 2 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Ah yes, "haaaawt" because when a woman desires an attractive partner it's because she's a shallow idiot, but when you desire an attractive partner it's because it is simply your birthright. Makes sense. If I take your list on its merits then women seem the awfully smarter sex, no? They require interesting, socially confident, intelligent and attractive partners. Whereas men apparently would happily fuck a bald monkey so long as it didn't throw too much of its feces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 01:00 AM |
| 1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"if this is true, why do women not fuck low-partner-count men? They do. I know plenty of attractive men that have been in a series of very longterm relationships and accordingly have very low partner counts. Men love and celebrate female virgins...Men applaud a woman for being chaste and careful with her womb Do they? This is a cultural relic that has largely fallen out of favor outside of deeply religious sects (which similarly value male chastity). Perhaps you could provide some examples for me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:56 AM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"The data suggests that the men do not view actions like sleeping with an unconscious person 'wrong' unless the word rape is explicitly used. You argued that "any normal person" would recognize that act as wrong, I provided peer-reviewed research demonstrating the exact opposite. It appears we are at an impasse, because you have decided the multiple studies I have helpfully provided are all 'incorrect' in their findings. It is somewhat mindblowing to witness this level of hubris. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:49 AM |
| -1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Is not discussing things from decades past now considered a white lie? Better let your significant other know about that time you pooped your pants in 4th grade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:43 AM |
| 5 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Ah yes, the extremely logical, rational, and mathematical "best fuck ever." Many people marry for reasons other than 'he/she is a great fuck!' Marriage is about finding a balance of traits you enjoy packaged in a partner you deeply care about as a person. This might be an alien concept, but trust me- it's true for most people. Are high-count women "permanently sullied"? Well, guess what? Women don't get to make that decision, men do. And according to most men, the answer is yes. Women can lie to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:40 AM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"The studies were done with an agenda already in mind, it's not like that means anything. Again, these were peer reviewed studies, published in respected journals. I'm curious why you think your opinion is of such import. That the data doesn't actually support the conclusion. The conclusion is that men commit acts of rape and do not consider themselves rapists. The data absolutely supports this conclusion, as does the data of many other studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:34 AM |
| 8 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"First of all I wouldn't ever do that. That's not how this works. Why not? If you really liked her, you'd let her do what you let your past girlfriends do. A man does not brutally compare his past sexual partners like women do. Instead he apparently compares himself to all of her past partners. Seems totally healthy and not insecure in the least. How good the sexual encounter is entirely depends on the man (we do all the work). Ah- now this is revealing. Perhaps you will someday experience a part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:31 AM |
| -1 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Except that she didn't lie. Not discussing past sexual partners or acts is the norm in healthy adult relationships. Nobody (normal) wants to hear about who you were nailing 10 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:27 AM |
| 5 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Funny you should use this as an example, as many schools view an upward trend in grades as a positive. Almost like they appreciate the tendency of people to mature as they grow older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:23 AM |
| 4 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"People are absolutely free to have standards for their significant others, even standards about past sexual behavior. It is when a man denigrates women with high partner count as permanently 'sullied' when he himself has an even higher count that people take umbrage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:19 AM |
| 4 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Once a whore always a whore. As far as I'm concerned if a woman doesn't do the nastiest most deprived and degrading shit she's ever done with you (but has done it with others in the past), then she doesn't respect you sexually and sees you as inferior to men of her past. No excuses. So people aren't allowed to try things and find out they dislike them? Because you allowed a girlfriend to anally penetrate you once you must allow your current girlfriend to do so, even though you truly disliked the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:17 AM |
| 0 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Do you hold yourself to similarly high standards when it comes to past sexual behavior and partner count? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:15 AM |
| 8 | "But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!"Oh, but it's so different for men- didn't you know? He's a special snowflake who's partner count in no way reflects the bad things he claims it does for women. Duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 12:08 AM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"The data doesn't show that, it's just an interpretation. It is how the researchers interpreted the data, forgive me if I trust their interpretation more than yours. You are trying to say that just because someone didn't explicitly call their actions rape that they thought they were right. In fact, what I actually said was: "The fact that they reject 'rape' when it is used as a term explicitly suggests that they view rape as wrong. Does it make it somehow better that they didn't view their action… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 11:53 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Again, the fact that they rejected 'rape' when it is used as a term explicitly suggests that they view rape as wrong. That they solipsistically viewed their own actions as something 'other' than rape seems largely irrelevant to me. What are you arguing here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 11:49 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"the data you provides gives no real indication of whether or not the respondents thought it wrong. The fact that they reject 'rape' when it is used as a term explicitly suggests that they view rape as wrong. Does it make it somehow better that they didn't view their actions as wrong when they raped their victims? I fail to see how. After all, they didn't believe what they were doing was rape, although the language described exactly that. It's the "Oh, I would never attack and rape a stranger in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 11:01 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Here's several studies on the subject, including the previously mentioned: 1 2 3 4. Do they all suffer from this supposed "grossly misrepresented data"? Please source your initial claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 10:21 PM |
| 5 | Women see men as pure utilityNor do most people past the age of 17. Ah well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 10:06 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"I was pointing out that no one was putting forth any ideas that are possible, will fix the problem, and isn't excessively harsh/severe. Instead they simply complain that things are not perfect. Better sexual education programs could have a huge effect on boys who do not recognize behaviors they practice as rape and girls who find sexual violence a 'normal' and 'expected' facet of romantic relationships- these are a surprisingly large proportion of the population. 1 2 3 I'm not sure how expressin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 09:46 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"A comment I posted earlier bears repeating: Except for the studies demonstrating that young men "endorse behavioral descriptions of rape but deny rape when labeled as such outright." It may seem obvious to you that rape is wrong, and only deeply flawed, irredeemable individuals rape. Unfortunately the reality is that many young men do not recognize their actions as rape. It is these individuals who benefit from awareness campaigns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 08:38 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Could you elaborate on how it is 'draconian' to expect people not to rape or otherwise assault an unconscious person? "You can have all the expectations you want, but that won't be changing the situation. Society runs on policy." Could you explain what this 'draconian' 'policy' would look like? It's 1st world problem bullshit to lament that a bunch of girls can't party up without any risks. Expect all you want, it changes nothing. It changes how we view victims of rape and sexual assault. Taking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 08:07 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Again, what seems obvious to you is not similarly obvious to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Except for the studies demonstrating that young men "endorse behavioral descriptions of rape but deny rape when labled as such outright." It may seem obvious to you that rape is wrong, and only deeply flawed, irredeemable individuals rape. Unfortunately the reality is that many young men do not recognize their actions as rape. It is these individuals who benefit from awareness campaigns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Ah yes, because the rape of young girls is a modern phenomena, and men only rape little girls who are dressed provocatively. What reality are you living in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 06:00 PM |
| 0 | Interesting article "Why do we victim-blame?"Could you elaborate on how it is 'draconian' to expect people not to rape or otherwise assault an unconscious person? I'm also curious how it is 'first world problem bullshit' to expect to have bodily autonomy as a person, even while drunk? Nobody is saying you shouldn't recognize risks. What they are arguing is that the risk is much, much higher for women through no fault of their own. It is unfair that half the population tends to be smaller and less physically powerful. Does that mean women s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Married Redpill Men - Is your wife your equal?"Some people want to lead, some people want to be lead, or don't care." Absolutely agree with you. And I would also add that some people enjoy reaching consensus through discussion and compromise. "And some people don't." Right, which is exactly what I said when I stated I agreed with you. I was adding a category that you had ignored. if one would go on TRP and use the words "good" or "bad" or "should", the response you'd overwhelmingly receive would be "get out". The red pill does not exist to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/15 05:07 PM |
| 1 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?It requires different evidence because the evidence is different. A victim who was drugged or drunk won't have signs of struggle or contusions because they were unconscious or in a state close to that. They will, however, show signs of penetration and potentially the genetic material of the attacker. Are you suggesting that rape isn't rape if the rapists doesn't 'intend' to harm the victim? I'm fairly sure a number of rapists don't intend to do lasting damage. Unfortunately for them wanting to e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/15 04:46 PM |
| 2 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?I would argue the use of quotations generally implies exactly what I said above: a basic disbelief in whatever appears between them. It's rape whether it's a stranger in an alley or a coworker you thought you knew and trusted. No use of quotations necessary. I've stated repeatedly that rape in the latter type of situations is difficult to prove. It should be. But what homo_homini is arguing is that the separate category of 'rape' as a crime should be abolished, and instead reclassified as merely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/15 04:30 PM |
| 2 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?Again, rape is difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Why are you advocating making it harder for the victims of non-stranger rapists? When women are going alone with strange men and giving off mixed signals drunkenly and suddenly find themselves "raped" Your continued use of quotations indicates you clearly don't believe women (and specifically only women? What of men who are raped by acquaintances while drunk? You have yet to address this question.) can be raped by someone they know or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 11:16 PM |
| 1 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?Why is an STD or pregnancy more heinous then being headstomped into a coma. Being "headstomped into a coma" is a far cry from being "punched in the face" and would be most likely classified as aggravated battery and perhaps even attempted murder or attempted voluntary manslaughter, all of which involve longer average prison sentences than those of rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 11:10 PM |
| 2 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?How would you prove that. Rape cases are incredibly difficult to prove. Nobody is arguing that isn't the case. But what this means, in stark opposition to all the MRA/RP handwringing, is that only around 6% of reported rapes result in conviction and jail time. Why should we reclassify rape to only signify stranger-in-an-alley situations? Who does that benefit other than rapists who prey on familiar victims? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 10:42 PM |
| 1 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?It only still exists because it benefits women. Was your husband compelled to marry you solely because it benefitted you? If you believe marriage as a concept should "go" why did you choose to become married initially? Rape as a separate crime should go too Sexual violation is viewed differently from other physical assault for a myriad of reasons, some of which I helpfully listed for you above. Having distinctions classifying different crimes is helpful. Rape is considered especially heinous for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 10:27 PM |
| 1 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?If there If no disease transmitted then what? that is not and never has been the reasoning behind the crime of rape. I was explaining how rape and a punch to the face differ. I was not, as you appear to have misunderstood, offering an alternative definition of rape hinged only of the transmission of disease. A separate category of rape is a relic of a time when Female chastity had significant value and female sexuality was controlled and owned by her father or husband and her chastity was of val… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 09:13 PM |
| 1 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?But it is a separate crime, for a variety of reasons. Here's a fairly straightforward explanation: being punched in the face doesn't transmit any sexual disease. A blow to the cheek can't result in pregnancy. The ramifications are different. The motives are often different. The crimes are different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 08:26 PM |
| 0 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?Yes, I believe once you consent to have sex with someone the situation becomes too fraught to start determining which parts of which sex acts are consensual or rape. I'm not sure how much more plainly I can put this: the acts you consent to are consensual. The sex you don't consent to is rape. It's pretty darn straightforward as far as concepts go. im saying if i was in charge of prosecutions being brought and someone brought me a story that they were in the middle of having consensual vaginal s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 08:03 PM |
| 0 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?if he said yes to sex, yes to being handcuffed and then claimed that x, y, z acts WERE consensual but a,b,c acts werent, then id say yes, something tragic, icky and foolish happened there but i cant see how it could possibly be ever proven to be felony rape. Allow me to repeat some questions: forcing or coercing someone into a sexual act without their consent is the legal definition of rape. Are you arguing this shouldn't be the case? When two people agree to be naked together they give up all b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Is there consensus that the female corollary of the friend zone is the "fuck zone"? if not why not? Also which is preferableBy that reasoning single men do not have the ability to not fuck women who aren't interested in them? How horrifying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 06:34 PM |
| 0 | Married Redpill Men - Is your wife your equal?Some people want to lead, some people want to be lead, or don't care. Absolutely agree with you. And I would also add that some people enjoy reaching consensus through discussion and compromise. I think the only functional difference you'd see is that I take the male role, and her the woman's. Isn't this idea the issue? That men and women have prescribed roles and RP is 'smart' enough to recognize and follow them? How can RP presume that it is 'bad' when men prefer to be led and women to lead? W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 05:48 PM |
| 2 | What should be the legal definition of Rape?Forcing or coercing someone into a sexual act without their consent is the legal definition of rape. Are you arguing this shouldn't be the case? It isn't simply "icky" to be forcibly sodomized without consent. What a horrible, soulless thing to suggest. What exactly is your argument here? When two people agree to be naked together they give up all bodily autonomy? By that logic, if a woman were to handcuff her boyfriend to their bed and forcibly sodomize him with her fist or a toy would that sim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/15 05:27 PM |
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