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CMVmechanical_elves/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 06:00 PM
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Purge week!mechanical_elves/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:23 PM
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NYE Purge Post!mechanical_elves/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:50 PM
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Women can and do use these labels in with serious impunity in real life, but given that you're a) a man and b) in an online discussion board, let me reiterate that these concepts coming from you carry next to no weight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:14 AM
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I just wish I could tell those 50 year old guys to stop giving a fuck and to get a college aged hooker already and get it out of their system. Us guys don't realize how easy we could have it if we stopped being such weenies so sensitive to society's judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:57 AM
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If it wasn't too much to ask, men would be doing it much more the problem isn't JUST what is being asked, but what is acquired from those efforts. Seeing men with a 6 pack and a high paying job, their women are still underwhelming a lot of the time. Don't act so surprised that the monkeys refuse to dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:50 AM
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this creepy social behavior First it's "gross", now it's "creepy". Somebody please give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:20 AM
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I've noticed IRL that when women force themselves to approach men it's often because they're already low value but they want a heartthrob who doesn't even know she exists and has 3 hotter women already chasing him. Then she blames her failure on not following social norms (as if that mattered), instead of just being out of touch with reality and relative attractiveness compared to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:10 AM
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gross Fuck all that noise, he had a hypothesis and he ran an experiment to test it. The scientific method does not give a fuck about your opinoins on what's "gross". That's for the feeble-minded or should I say, female-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:52 AM
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It's a bit ambiguous. I mean personalities of modern western women. The way modern women carry themselves, their interests, their demeanor, the way they express themselves etc. I've only met a handful of very likeable women in my life and none that were both likeable and physically attractive. For what it's worth, you can tell the personalities of the majority of modern western MEN aren't generally all that appealing to women either just by the way women talk about men in a general context. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:21 PM
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It seems a lot of men don't really like modern female personalities, but they're still drawn to feminine body types. I know this is the case for me. I think a lot of men are reluctant to admit this because of the judgment that will inevitably come from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:43 PM
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First of all fucking someone isn’t the only way to show interest in someone. Other ways include: asking about their hobbies, their family, blah blah Asking about my hobbies just shows weak interest. Jumping my bones after a first date indicates strong interest. Unfortunately weak interest is a tactic used by women who friendzone men or string them along. At least the guys that have caught on don't give women the option of expressing weak interest anymore. If she didn't want to fuck on the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:23 PM
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I'm starting to think below average women think they're average
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:34 PM
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that's nice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:33 AM
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I couldn't care less who sends you DMs, yells at you or downvotes you. That's not the topic of discussion. Take it up with the mods. Men generally understand via experience that looks matter and that women try to gaslight them with anecdotes about exceptions from their friend group, which btw if a classic female tactic. This is the last time I argue the point with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:11 AM
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No. The reason it's a top rated comment is women agreeing. "Blue pilled men who are unsuccessful but upvote comments to help them hang onto hope" is an extremely specific subset of men on this sub, it won't be enough to make it a highly rated comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:59 AM
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Yes. Agreed. Amongst a sea of women saying that looks do matter. except that the balding Indian Chad comment will also be among the top rated in the post because other women upvoted it (presumably in agreement)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:40 AM
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One thing : roll back communications technology for the general public. Everyday people may only communicate face to face or by letter, maybe telegrams in serious emergencies. There, myriad social problems solved overnight in exchange for minor inconveniences that can be easily adapted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:13 AM
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Lying about intentions. But maybe you really were sincere and just changed your mind, then it's not lying right? 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:47 AM
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I strongly agree, and I also agree with the OP. There isn't much vetting you can do to prevent yourself from being in this situation because of how pervasive it is. This is the reality of being a man and we must accept this. I accept it by just never considering women for anything serious. If I'm not committing to a chick I can live with her second best lay, or even her worst lay ever. This is the only reasonable adaptation to this reality that I've seen so far. I'm not going to be a chick's sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:03 AM
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It's just Lilith's way to make one sided whataboutism arguments. "If women are responsible for X, men are responsible for Y -- but let's only talk about that" Then watch as she makes excuses for irresponsible women in other threads by saying men do it too or by claiming it's men's fault -- it never fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:52 AM
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Not really. Used for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:31 PM
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There's a lot of women in category D who will insist they're in category B. And also a lot of category B women becoming category D and never vice versa. Sucks for category B gals, but not imo tehy're not worth taking a chance on. Blame your FDS sisters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:14 PM
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Spot on. The truth hurts but it needs to be said anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:51 AM
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There is no point in blaming. Hypergamy is just the reason not to settle down with older women who been around the block.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:24 AM
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We don't make friends with women we fuck them, hope that answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:53 PM
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Just accept reality. Men are not seeking out women to be friends with, I don't even think gay men do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:38 PM
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Men put even less thought and effort into making friends, yet a lot of women seem to want guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:30 PM
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It's true regardless of your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:28 PM
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Men rarely want to make friends with women, I think this comes down to women's communication style. I suspect part of the reason women even want to be friends with men sometimes is to get away from the female communication style too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:39 PM
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accepting that modern western women are whores, especially the ones who "aren't hot enough" and just paying one an option too, no need for celibacy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:15 PM
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Block, delete arrange a date with another man next week. This is exactly what women are already doing with most of the dudes after a first date anyway, even when you do pay, so really who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:52 AM
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Why do that when I can just pretend to really value a woman's opinions, perspectives, aspirations and thoughts to make her think there's a "real connection" there?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:52 AM
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What does confidence mean exactly as some guys still can’t get dates from girls with it? ​ If a guy has maximized his looks, his attitude, and confidence but still doesn’t get dates then what could be happening? The confidence women are talking about is about being clearly superior to other men within their hierarchy and how they carry themself with that knowledge. The guy you're describing is failing is because he's missing that key ingredient. Confident men who aren't also superior end up seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:03 AM
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If you set me on ignore you won't get to watch as I fling shit at your worthless boring posts. Where's the fun in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:39 AM
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nope I don't even know what I'm doing asking this group in particular me either, you should stick to chatting with women instead of hoping men will share your corny ass female perspectives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:39 AM
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The US is basically a nation of immigrants, what has that changed. You're just going to end up with a larger population of frustrated men than you had before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:09 AM
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wow great question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:05 AM
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I think bachelor taxes are a great idea because it will only accelerate men dropping out of society and then doing the bare minimum to help sustain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:50 AM
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Let's just look at the solutions this subreddit is coming up with to fix social relations. I don't think anyone's presenting that list as solutions, maybe as side effects of society gradually breaking down. "Everything is progressing just fine and there is no issue" is perfect assuming there really isn't a problem brewing, which I very much doubt. Stuff like white supremacists recruiting young men to march in Philadelphia on July 4th should be a canary in the coalmine for anyone paying attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:47 AM
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It's just the internet. Have the courage to be called "incel" for speaking the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:04 PM
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if I asked to split the bill they would suspect I have financial issues Split the bill, then get yourself a dessert "to-go" separately. There, now she knows you had more money to spend on her IF you actually wanted to. pro move: don't actually eat the dessert, offer it to someone who's proven to be loyal to you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:02 PM
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I specifically refuse to lie to men like they demand women do. Women lie that paying your fair share and women paying their fair share will be against men's interests, when really it's women collectively looking out for their own interests. Namely, looking out for their assumed position of power in dating. Most women are such shit companion they should consider themselves lucky to even be asked out, much less have their expenses paid for by a guy who barely knows them. At this point the dating m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:21 PM
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No, you really don't have to isolate the variables because there will never be a case where you're competing with your clone. You will always be either a step above or a step below the best available option, and whether you paid or not will almost never be what makes the difference (and where it is, you better run).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:39 PM
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Men who choose to be less competitive are within their rights ​ Stop lying to men. Tom Brady / any more desirable man not paying for your dinner is still going to outcompete less desirable men who pay for dinner. It's not based on who pays, but on who you are overall. Stop with the lies. Flipside, men don't make themselves "more competitive" by paying. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:23 PM
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If you're going out in the sun, use sunblock. If your skin is dry, use moisturizer. Don't turn stupid shit into a religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:14 PM
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Trump was the best president, hands down
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:18 PM
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I never understood this talking point Maybe you should bring it up with whoever's making the claim rather than post about it on PPD days/weeks later, where people have to guess wtf they might have been referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:01 PM
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Give me 6 or 7 more months while I look for a date and I'm gonna filter the FUCK out of the next chick I get an opportunity with, you just watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:09 PM
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I keep saying women are degenerate sluts with high partner counts but men on PPD keep on disagreeing with me that it's true or that it's a problem. if anything they turn prudish after being whores for years such as is the case with FDS women. A lot of men still disagree that this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:19 PM
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It's interesting to see how many women responding consider FWB sex as relationship sex. But if a chick wants "a relationship", she never means an FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:14 PM
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I'll post it again just for you. Imagine telling women that it's very difficult to find guys who haven't watched porn all their lives, therefore the best thing to do is accept male nature and raise their ass to mouth game? lol They're just going to say they'd rather stay singleAdapting is opting out entirely. Women are smart enough to get this, why aren't men? You are very likely NOT going to get an abundance of hot women to have sex with in the hookup culture. TRP absolutely fails at this for p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:01 AM
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Imagine telling women that it's very difficult to find guys who haven't watched porn all their lives, therefore the best thing to do is accept male nature and raise their ass to mouth game? lol They're just going to say they'd rather stay single Adapting is opting out entirely. Women are smart enough to get this, why aren't men? You are very likely NOT going to get an abundance of hot women to have sex with in the hookup culture. TRP absolutely fails at this for probably 80% or more of the men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:50 PM
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Ughhhhhhhhhh if you can't read a short wikipedia blurb then just stop Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (the whore) READ the fucking article. Read it and stop being a moron. Men with madonna whore complexes WANT a sexual partner who they see as degraded. It's literally the opposite of what you're saying. And in the "madonna" case, what world do you live in where men can respect someone they feel disgust for? enough PPD for today, fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:42 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex is said to develop in men who see women as either saintly Madonnas or debased prostitutes (from the article) the more loyal she is the more pure she becomes in his eyes. (what I said) Right so now that we've ruled out "Madonna/whore" as a candidate, what was that psychology term that you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:37 AM
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male sexuality is healthy or men inherently ruin what they touch with their cocks Nope. If men saw it this way, they'd gradually develop disgust for a woman who's loyal to him . It's quite the opposite, the more loyal she is the more pure she becomes in his eyes. It's being passed around by many different cocks that men consider destructive. Outside male sexuality from competing men will always be disgusting to a man. Sex with outside men is where a woman is defiled and destroyed over time. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:46 AM
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You have it backward. With the exception of traumas, sexual failure or sexual desirability is what determines a guy's body image, not the other way around. Same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:54 AM
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Do men brag about losing their virginity when they get a hand job? Like I said I consider it to be any form of sexual experience with another person, so I wouldn't consider him (or her!) a virgin. It's much more realistic to have anal sex with one girl, but I said 10 to illustrate a point. Whether it's 1 or 10, you're not a virgin if you stuck it in a girl's ass, gotten head from her, had her use a toy on you, etc. This also solves the "gay virgin" matter which you brought up seamlessly, but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:24 AM
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No sexual contact of any kind with another person. It depends on them being sexually involved with another person. If were strictly PIV, you could say that a guy who's assfucked 10 different women and then nutted on their face like a pornstar is still a virgin because the intercourse wasn't PIV
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:38 AM
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I'm ok with disagreement, I'm more interested in speaking what seems true to me than convincing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:30 AM
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She met him in her 30s and he brings "stable lifestyle" to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:27 AM
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It seems to me like height does significantly help, while the things you listed are also important to an extent just less individually. My guess is that if you were a shorter/average handsome guy with a great personality and common interests all combined THEN maybe he would overcome the height. note that I'm not judging this as good or bad, just saying that this is how it seems to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:40 PM
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You're expecting women to think about it logically / analytically for something that is almost entirely an emotional response. Being around 6' or more helps with women of all heights from around 5'2 to 5'10. It only starts tapering off as a benefit for some shorter women when you're freakishly tall (6'3 or taller).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:51 PM
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But hueristics are a shit mechanism for sole determination of...anything. I'm quite happy to pass up every single "opportunity" with single mothers so it really doesn't matter to me what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:35 AM
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depressing for the single moms maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:19 AM
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No way conservative men are seeing mental health professionals unless it is court ordered the survey wasn't about conservative men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:10 AM
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Or do you lump all single parents into the respective categories of 'neutral' or 'scum'? lump. Heuristics are never perfect, but very useful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:59 AM
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looks and inner stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:55 AM
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Whether they were self-reporting or diagnosed by a psychiatrist on the spot, the proportions should be similar. A doctor isn't going to take your political leaning into his diagnosis. Also, a person isn't more or less likely to lie or exaggerate diagnoses based on their political leaning. tl;dr it literally makes no difference if they were asked or diagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:50 AM
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Single fathers just get some encouraging words and a pat on the back for not abandoning his kids. Which is something a lot of single fathers do, because the women chose a scumbag a lot of the time. For this reason, instead of just being something you're expected to do, it becomes kind of unexpected and even admirable. I think of single fathers who stick around neutrally, but I think single moms are scum unless they're widows or the like, because most what that leads to single parenthood are a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:18 AM
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ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:33 PM
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I just think white liberal women are the most likely to make an appointment to one. Not a valid argument because even if liberal women went to a therapist at 10X the rate of conservative women, incidence of mental health issues ought to be proportionally similar. For example, in a group of 10,000 liberal women, maybe 10% should have a mental issue, just like in a group of 1,000 conservative women, 10% should have a mental issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:28 PM
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Homeless people often don't have the options you listed though. Being homeless doesn't mean being uneployed, but often it does. And it also often means having drug addiction, mental health problems, a criminal record, and estranged family which makes the streets their only viable option. It's just a garbage metaphor overall. I don't have to get you to admit it, I'm happy just to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:55 AM
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Can we just agree that squatting a house is a fairly shitty metaphor for this though? If not, let's move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:51 AM
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That's like saying no one is homeless because there are houses for sale. It's not like saying that at all because women could walk into a number of relationships at any point but they just don't think are good enough for them. Your homeless guy example is the opposite of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:19 AM
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There's a huge difference in that if you add up enough kids getting a few million views each, eventually it becomes mainstream. I never bought a fidget spinner but I damn well know what it is. Also 80% of what makes it mainstream is attention and reactions from the opposition. The individual kids don't have to "carry the banner". It's not like anyone needs them as leaders, but if they distribute the information then all the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:10 PM
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If red pill wants to become mainstream, red pillers need to stop being cowards and show themselves. There are children on tiktok turning redpill (and blackpill) messages into memes videos to get views. And the best thing is, the more relatable and the more controversial it sounds, the more attention it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:30 PM
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they didn't want me when I was a teen watching porn some do seem to want me now though lol that's the funny thing about it. I actually have and do reject women now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:21 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/ he incidence of divorce has continued to climb, and according to the 2009 American Community Survey, only 45.8 percent of children reach age 17 years while still living with their biologic parents who were married before or around the time of the child's birth Also if you keep marriage constant and change variables like college education, then the difference is attributed on their education, not on on the marital status. Should be common sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:38 AM
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It's not a hilarious statement. You get married, you divorce statistically about half the time, and you end up a single parent. You might as well cohabitate, the failure rates are probably not significantly different and you don't have to worry about all this additional crap about prenups and joint bank accounts. To each his own. If you want to marry, then please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:02 PM
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I know what the studies say, they're irrelevant here. Marriage does little to prevent single parenthood and cohabitating doesn't necessarily require a child to be raised by a single parent. Do what you want in your own life for your own children, I'm only pointing out why not everyone sees it the way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:17 PM
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This argument might have held water when divorce wasn't such a trivial thing for women. The only thing you truly have control over is your own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:44 PM
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I used to say that, but it doesn't even make sense to marry for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:26 PM
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Marry a woman who makes as much as you; OR keep most assets separate in a marriage (small joint account & everything else individual); OR sign a rigorous non coercive prenup w/ two individual independent lawyers prior to marriage. Why bother with any of this? "Don't marry" is the simplest approach, then it doesn't matter how much she makes or where her financial accounts are or who has the better lawyers If you get married, it's your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:21 PM
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The standard to hold out for a virgin works really well for me because I don't want to get married anyway. A lot of women actually want to get married, so good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:54 PM
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Probably because I picked up a few different stringed instruments as a teen and it turned out to be a deeply satisfying life experience. My guess is that I associate a lot of those positive emotions with other people who play music too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:39 AM
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Ability in any solo musical instrument is the only thing that really does it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 06:55 AM
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How is the guy supposed to know she was formerly promiscuous though? The beauty of it is the guy doesn't need to. We men instinctually drag our feet in committing to a woman until she overcomes his doubts or overcomes his visceral disgust, or until she loses hope and moves on to the next guy. So either the woman addresses the problem, or problem takes care of itself eventually. I am only speaking the truth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:54 AM
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Winners according to men that's all that matters at that point. Even when they weren't paying, women were already judging them as losers. The losers are sexless men who are so intimidated by female judgment that they remain sexless, these are truly pathetic and spineless creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:00 PM
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are you just very unattractive or is there another reason, like being asexual? I don't get why people would be here debating or reading debates about something they've never even done once in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:13 AM
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Accept the truth now or despair later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:11 AM
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I mean a slut with dog shit can easily be fixed Nope. There is no fixing that. I know a lot of women who did hookups are praying it can be "fixed" in your late 20s by just deciding to make men wait from now on, expecting male thirst to carry them over smoothly from the casual stage to the commitment stage. I'm am the second horseman of the slutpocalypse here to deliver this message: it's not going to work for most of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:47 AM
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If you were engaging in hookups out of your own free will it makes no difference if you say now that it wasn't all that great. It's just another lame excuse that no once cares about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:59 AM
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no hookups girl level = 9000+ blessed unicorn reformed slut level = literal dog shit Sorry I don't make the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:39 AM
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Women who never started doing hookups >>>>>> women who "stopped" doing hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:56 AM
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They absolutely are rare in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:35 PM
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sure ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:30 PM
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I think one of the funniest media lies was Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network. I mean as a kid I was skeptical already, but imagine buying into the idea that women would be stand-offish to an outgoing guy with big shoulders and perfect hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:14 PM
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Agreed, it's very confusing if you look at it without context. Hypergamy in context points out why an average man should never commit to an average (or worse) woman. Women are free to create their own boundaries also around men's preferences for the hottest women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:43 PM
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Can you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:30 PM
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Yes, and every guy wants to bang a perfect 10 that fucks like a pornstar. who's denying that though? Who's out here writing daily posts trying to argue that it's just a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:27 PM
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Pretty sure if you opened something love hotel in the US you'd go bankrupt pretty fast due to lack of use, because it's not truly a factor as much as you're making it out to be You can already rent motels for $50, they don't seem to be having a boom of any kind related to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:23 PM
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When people say women are hypergamous they're not referring to the result, but the mindset and intention to marry up. It may be almost impossible for a huge section of women to marry up for varying reasons, it doesn't discount their desire to marry up, and apparently many of them prefer to just stay single if a hypergamous option is not in the cards for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:52 PM
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I lean more towards #2, but I'd prefer someone who leans towards #1
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:56 AM
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yeah the joke is that a lot of women consider an actor who's 5'9 to be "short"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:28 AM
4

you're supposed to chew on it like bubble gum, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:57 PM
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I’m not gonna even bother responding Don't respond then. I do agree with you that tall women can make up for their tallness by being hot, and short men almost never no matter what they do. That's why it's not comparable imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:52 PM
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It would be nice to have more legal options than porn. Especially since porn-induced ED is such a widespread problem now, even among the youth. Also social stigma doesn't matter so much. I can handle being openly public about it with friends and family who ask, but if others can't there's a reason providers are required to be discreet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:15 PM
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Tall women have to make up for their tallness by being extremely attractive And yet you could be a very handsome, charming, famous movie star 5'4 or below, you'd still be absolutely ruthlessly judged on your height That's how Taylor Lautner became a meme
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:04 PM
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I flicked to see the women’s profiles and they objectively blow you out of the water. What's the point of comparing? Men aren't women. If women want to max out their photos but end up looking like the budget version on the actual date, that's fine. I won't tell you what to do if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:36 AM
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On average, not really for most of early adult life. But aging-related hormone changes in women and men are different. In women, ovulation ends and hormone production plummets during a relatively short period of time. This is known as menopause. In men, production of testosterone and other hormones declines over a period of many years and the consequences aren't necessarily clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:07 PM
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Ok so thinking about something doesn't always mean you want it, but for dating it necessarily does. I don't consider that opinion to be worth engaging with. Let's move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:33 PM
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ok, but this response doesn't address what I asked. Does thinking about something always mean you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:10 PM
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Does thinking about something necessarily mean you want it though? Does a vegan thinking about the meat industry mean he wants a hamburger? You're engaging in imaginary mind-reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:05 PM
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I've made my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:02 PM
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Thinking about women doesn't mean you are having a romantic relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:58 PM
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Nothing compels them to conform except the name they chose for themselves Nope, not even that, because this is your own (mis)interpretation of what the name means. It's like saying members of Alcoholics Anonymous needs to never utter their real name because the word "anonymous" is in the name they chose for themselves, which is just ridiculous. Seems to me the word "go" refers to abandoning the search for romantic relationships and nothing more. Just putting that out there, because this concept …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:35 PM
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When you tell people you want to "go your own way," they're going to expect you to go your own way--emphasis on the word "go." My point is that nothing compels them to conform to that expectation. If people aren't behaving as you expected, maybe it's expectation that was misguided. Maybe the word "go" doesn't actually mean "never speak of it again".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:20 PM
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Hell, look at MGTOW. It would be a perfectly fine and socially acceptable way of life and nobody would have a problem with it except the men--who are ostensibly going their own way--can't keep women's names out their damn mouths. Doing otherwise would mean that you're not allowed to reflect on or reaffirm why you're doing what you're doing unless it's done in a pre-approved manner. It's like demanding smokers never mention the drawbacks of smoking cigarettes, as if they have permission to stop u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:56 PM
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Nowhere it's shown that older women choose to not look for dates because nobody wants them Again with the strawman arguments. At least quote the stuff you're referring to. I didn't say that they choose not to look for dates because no one wants them. I mean in general this is kind of true but I'm saying of the men who they do want, not enough want them back for relationships, and they stop looking. I'm also not saying this is the explanation they provide when asked on a pew survey, I don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:51 AM
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I don't even know what you're talking about. What? Are you referring to the men or women or both? If you mean the men, I already said they do want a relationship -- with younger women, and they just can't get them. If you meant the women, I'm only reiterating that they stop looking and decide on cats and wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:30 AM
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Have you seen the stats that say 15% of women marry men younger than them? .The data says that of the women who marry, 15% marry younger. This doesn't mean 15% of women marrying younger. Also, it doesn't take into consideration what the standard deviation is but it wouldn't surprise me if many among these 15% are with a guy a year or 2 younger. Men have always been worse off than women when it comes to dating. What else is new?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:19 AM
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Well that's a pretty good explanation imo. You have women who aren't preferred by men of any age, wanting to date men younger than themselves. That's a pretty unfortunate combination. It also explains why so many of the older men are still looking. They want the women who they still find attractive and are just not getting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:58 PM
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Studies show women in 30 prefer their own age up until age 39 where they prefer dating and marrying young men show the studies, if true, it might explain why 70% decide to stop looking entirely by their 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:44 PM
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Yeah sorry you lost my interest. If you keep on replying, I will make you entertain me and trust me you don't want that. Go debate someone else like I told you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:35 PM
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Please debate with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:21 PM
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The data says 70% of women. No one said it was 100% of 40 year olds or that it was all gloom and doom stop with these dumb strawman arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:16 PM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:13 PM
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You as an individual are not relevant to that generalized claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:10 PM
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It's because men in their 40s don't want to commit to women in their 40s. A lot of the women in their 40s who are still single just give up and decide on cats and wine is actually a lot more rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:39 PM
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indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:35 PM
3

Most of reddit leans leftist, they will just argue that BLM/antifa was a good thing and miss the point of what I'm saying. But yes, I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:10 PM
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counterpoint: Capitol Hill rioters. The violence will probably not come in the form of men revolting over sexlessness. It will come as opportuntiies to act out since you don't have much to lose anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:50 PM
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Well I only know for sure that continued gaslighting, denials and so on will will only take us to worsening gender relations. A subtext that is more cold hearted and more hostile, with a contrived facade of caring and politeness. To answer your question, why it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:08 AM
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Because it prevents reconciliation or improvement of gender relations. As long as women continue to gaslight men over these things, I am in favor of worsening gender relations. Let's find out where this gaslighting takes us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:45 PM
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just so you know, I was the one who got your post deleted for bad faith. You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:05 PM
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I've said what I wanted to say. Now, go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:55 AM
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So next time ensure to never complain about your life again bud. I thought I told you, I don't take orders from idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:49 AM
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It's you. Men can give women 0 sympathy for it, just like a starving 3rd worlder is completely justified in having 0 sympathy for someone complaining about being a fat fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:32 AM
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Why do you think it's such an issue, when men in other countries are not even thinking about the encounters of casual sex or relationships No, see you actually are an idiot. Your entire post criticizes exactly the same kind of logic that you're falling into right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:15 AM
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Sorry, I don't take orders from idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:08 AM
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You're falling into the fallacy of relative privation. Read about it first, then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:04 AM
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It would be embarrassed beyond words if I had to present my problems of having too many hamburgers to eat is a problem while they're trying to figure out their next meal. You'd have to hold a gun to my head. This is where women are a little different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:44 AM
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You try to teach them not to lash out if you want. You'r welcome to gently remind them all you want for whatever good you think that's going to do. I won't be wasting my time with that because I know it won't work. Rather spend my time figuring out ways to jump ship if it turns out that I'm part of a targeted group, which I very well could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:14 AM
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Neither are the ones threatening a societal collapse due to their opting out (lol) unless we give them women. I frequently mention that a continued increase in male sexlessness will contribute significantly to violence and social unrest in the future. People seem absolutely certain that society can depend on "technological distractions" to keep bailing society out forever. The attack on the Capitol should have been a warning sign that maybe it doesn't quite work like that. What more proof do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:40 AM
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If they don't give a fuck, then what you think of them is also irrelevant. It's obvious you were fishing for such men to act offended the way women do about claims that they're bad for society or not suitable for relationships, but it won't work. Shaming men like that doesn't work nearly the same way. By the way, I would love to see women be as irreverent and unapologetic about casual sex as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:38 PM
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They don't give a fuck if they're bad for society or if they're not suitable for relationships either. You can try to shame all you want, but it's ineffective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:29 PM
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Men having casual sex do not give the slightest fuck if you view them as corrupted as long as they're getting the pussy. Men aren't women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:25 PM
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I never made any such claims, I only said whatever you've presented so far doesn't actually challenge 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:09 AM
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Uh there was some study posted the other day that dating men have sex on avg 1-3x per week? The average is a terrible counter-argument to 80/20, because when the distribution of (whatever) is heavily skewed to the top, the top x% will bring the average up. You just don't understand skewness of distributions. This is why you look at the median.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:05 AM
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The fact that you see lower 80% men dating doesn't even begin to challenge 80/20. These men could still be "sexless" in the sense that getting that much actual sex (but still a bit, sometimes).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:11 AM
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I don't see how the story conflicts with 80/20 then. The guys could still belong to the bottom 80%, actually not too hard to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:53 AM
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Yes but RP claims they're sexless so was this from an exchange you were having with another user also hyperbole?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:47 AM
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Ah, my mistake. In my defense, it's hard to spot the hyperbole from a post that reads like one big hyperbole itself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:27 AM
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IF The 80/20 rule was true, he should be a virgin at the age of 62 really doesn't seem like it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:07 AM
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yeah, 80% don't have frequent sex. It dosn't mean 80% of men are virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:29 AM
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at the end of the day, what's a couple of orders of magnitude. Like, so what if women have 100x better odds than you if the odds are still not that great?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:06 AM
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IF The 80/20 rule was true, he should be a virgin at the age of 62. I always understood 80/20 to mean the top 20% of the men get 80% of the action That always leaves the small remainder of the action for the inferior men to fight over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:00 AM
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That doesn't make sense. How is a 10% chance of success better than a 0.01% chance? Both are not very likely, therefore they're both about equally as bad. Men just don't see that because they don't understand women's struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:48 AM
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yes, but all this sexual abundance doesn't guarantee a long term partner who they will love for the rest of their lives, or even an orgasm. It only exponentially magnifies the chances of that happening at any given point in their lives over men who generally don't. So what's so great about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:35 AM
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No woman wants to be treated like the dumb partner in a relationship Opening with a strawman, nice. Not wasting my time with the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:20 PM
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they don’t have the wisdom or knowledge of toxic human behavior to make fhe best choices If this were true, it would be irresponsible to let your 18 year old children move out. Women seem to want a wealthier, physically stronger, smarter man than them most of the time, they seem to have no qualms on that type of power imbalance (i.e a REAL power imbalance) as long as the guy is the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:48 PM
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I thought I’d be meeting my life partner at this (late 20s) stage. oops
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:50 PM
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ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:26 AM
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I'm 100% certain you wouldn't support the abovementioned for MGTOW, which is who I was comparing them to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:31 AM
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I'd be satisfied with it as long as I'm satisfied in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:42 PM
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this will help my chances with men" is not one of those reasons Do you have anything besides a strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:35 PM
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women already lean towards being too agreeable and self-sacrificing I brought up flat stomach and nice ass for a reason. That instantly puts you right at the front of the line for all men, including very kind, respectful, attractive men. We all respond the same way to this stuff. They don't do it because their philosophy is different from TRP. They think making themselves attractive will only attract monsters, so it's in their best interests to just be a frumpy FDS but do their hair and slather …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:31 PM
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If FDS think there's some overlooked HVM attracted to them only if he'd pick them, imo, they're in for a surprise at 40 when they still haven't found that man despite their strategy. Seems like you think they'll find him if they follow the FDS protocol faithfully. I guess we'll see in about a decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:24 PM
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No woman on earth has problems attracting men FDS have problems attracting and keeping the men all the other women want; the high value men. This is very much an FDS problem. no one cares about just attracting "men" The thought that FDS are overlooking HVM and just not picking them is laughable. They're picking the HVM (as far as they can attract them) and they're getting their ass handed to them when they fail to measure up to better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:14 PM
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This is a common theme among converts to TRP and MGTOW also, how they gave their ex everything and all they got was mistreatment. The explanation for those men is that they mistook that what they thought women wanted vs what women actually respond to. but putting in the work for HVM is really not a part of FDS philosophy because that's a pickme or some nonsense. It's to their own demise, so I'm not upset about it, but I am pointing out the philosophies are very different in that sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:10 PM
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Where are the FDS hitting the gym and getting a flat stomach and nice ass though, where are the FDS learning to cater to men the way TRP cater to the typiacal woman who prefers confidence, status and assertiveness? They're much more like MGTOW in that they're barely willing to do anything substantial to improve themselves, but at least MGTOW isn't trying to devise strategies for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:28 PM
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FDS is basically what you'd get if MGTOW still sought relationships on their own, highly demanding terms and claimed it was to avoid all the undesirable women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:04 PM
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FDS is basically what you'd get if MGTOW still sought relationships on their own, highly demanding terms and claimed it was to "avoid all the trash women out there".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:00 PM
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I would LOVE for short fat men to be included in the body positivity movement because it would wake people up to how idiotic it is. The day that a shirtless fat guy is glorified as a strong, brave man whose extra adipose tissue raises him to some exalted status, and not just a fat person with impulse control problems, is the day the body positivity movement shows how ridiculous and hypocritical it is. A lot of people would instantly get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:38 PM
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When you let women be human, that's what people mean by female nature. When you let men be human, that's what we mean by male nature. It's a shorthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:49 PM
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I'm honestly working on it myself and trying to get better. I applaud you for this, but you're coming to your own conclusions about what OTHER men should do for a goal that you, yourself, have failed to achieve so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:53 PM
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She's being made into a joke because of the status. Why do you think Dave Chapelle has has an office job in this skit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:39 PM
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Did we just wake up one day and realize "huh, lots men are sexless for no apparent reason, how did this happen?". If not, then sexlessness itself not the root cause. The misery of men will be a major catalyst in the collapse/decline, and I've argued that male sexlessness will eventually lead to violence more than once here on PPD, but it would have been entirely preventable if we had stopped denying it and woken up to reality, and acknowledged that something had to be done rather than tell them …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:17 PM
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On its own, society can probably maintain quite a bit before it actually causes a complete collapse. Like 80-90% sexlessness might cause society to collapse. Sexlessness won't be what causes the cause of a social collapse though. It will end up being a symptom of other conditions that lead to that sexlessness, in that case probably a lot lower. I'd argue that at least America is already in a very slow and probably irreversible decline even with male sexlessness only at around 15%, but not BECAUS…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:42 PM
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Oprah is probably the highest status woman in the world, and she was literally turned into a Chapelle's Show joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7upGsFhoHY
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:15 PM
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it's going in that direction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:22 PM
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Pretty much. Why, is there something wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:48 AM
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Yeah, eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:08 AM
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I find it fascinating that you attribute anger to anything I've said so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:46 AM
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Then it's not why you're single, it's why you don't have a 9-10 or the woman of your dreams Anyway I predict this mindset doesn't end well unless you change it, but it's your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:40 AM
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That's just self hatred. There are people out there who work at Starbucks and whose houses look like a trash heap, with all kinds of issues worse than a porn habit, yet many of them aren't single. I'm not saying to be that, but that it's not necessary to reach a certain level of achievement to be worthy of a person who will most likely themselves be a work in progress too. This idea that you deserve to be with someone you like (or someone at all) only after you've proven yourself worthy is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:26 AM
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Why don't you seek to be independent of emotional connection and physical intimacy with men also? Shouldn't that also be an end goal for someone who values independence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:11 AM
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I'm not reading that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:33 AM
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I'm not trying to convince you I'm just putting out there what really seems to be true to me. If you think women as a group are blameless, fine by me. Keep blaming porn, or a small group of women, or whatever else. I'm not saying any of this expecting my words to make women have an epiphany and change the course of where this is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:16 AM
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No, hookup culture starts in high school too. I'm not referring just to the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:46 PM
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It's not about your face or what kind of jacket you wear. You can be a bad boy in a pink shirt and some swim trunks. It's much more about how he behaves. Would it be at all surprising to discover that there's some overlap between abuse and stuff like disregard for social conventions, pride, cockiness, aggressiveness, and charisma? personally, I think it's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:19 PM
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Why would they not watch it? These men decided that porn was better than what little they were getting from women in the dating scene. Women brought this upon themselves. Dudes on PPD have been saying this for years that this would eventually happen and finally here are the "coming to terms" posts like these to get them ready for a few decades of what will be a very cold and brutal dating market. Women, if you're getting into your 30s and haven't found a man just do yourselves a favor -- listen …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:03 PM
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Men's response to hookup culture that they were mostly excluded from was to turn to porn. What the fuck else did you think was going to happen? Weird how porn becomes an issue when women want to find some loser to settle down with. Couldn't they just pair up with the type of dudes they've been seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:41 PM
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oh no, out of all the men to choose from HE gets played into having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:16 AM
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Well that's ok. Let the committed guy expect what she would have wanted to give to the ONS guy. Committed guys should set their expectations pretty high.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:13 AM
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Let's say you do jump through enough hoops and now you're official bf/gf committed relationship. Now you should be able to get sex semi-regularly when you initiate. Maybe not every time, but often enough that you're satisfied. Don't put yourself in a position where you feel like you're jumping through hoops for sex, ever. It should be something you both want. During the relationship she'll want you to jump through hoops that are very important to her but you don't really want to do. Do them, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:07 AM
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You can expect more than a guy who would have been her fuckbuddy or ONS. If you're in a committed relationship, you're supposed to get at least the hot fuckbuddy sex AND more. You jump through the hoops, and let HER worry about proving it's worth it for you. If she fails at that, pull back and let her know, if she continues to faill at that -- stop. Note: this would work for any chick even if she never had a fuck buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:37 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:00 AM
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think the most men are ok with waiting for sex as long as the standard is applied evenly. This is the problem. For a woman, fucking 100 guys soon after meeting them between the ages of 18-34, and then making all men wait after 35 can be "applying it evenly". A lot of men don't see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:38 AM
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Oh no, women are marrying less 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:22 AM
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The skincare is fine, but I want someone who looks presentable without makeup. Maybe just some light eyeliner and mascara for when we go on dates and that's it. I just like knowing that it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:27 AM
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Every porn actress at some point in their lives thinks to herself "this amount of cash is worth more than monogamous relationships are to me". Any man should consider that choice very carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:46 AM
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Not really. Human bodies in the west these days are unhealthy on average, male and female. When men say they're attracted to female bodies, they're mostly focusing on the healthy, fertile female bodies. When women say they're unattracted to male bodies, they mean chubby, average height male bodies. Put a tall, athletic guy in front of almost any hetero woman and she'll get weak at the knees. bonus: South korean men are astounded that I'm attracted to "fat women" if they're anything above a size …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:19 PM
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not reading that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:28 PM
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From an evolutionary perspective, men who are unable to grow a beard probably do a bit worse than men who can, probably because it's a marker of male hormone levels. But it's less growing the beard than having the hormones to grow one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:26 PM
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my own experience as well as friend's. vs a mountain of peer reviewed research
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:17 PM
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Ok so men do respond primarily to sexual stimuli, and not so much to game or status. That's what my response to rosephase was about. I don't see how bringing women's response contributes anything except for derailing the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:32 PM
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How is saying "I wouldn't date a porn actress" a comparable analogy to saying MMA fighters are trash humans with terrible morals who I would never associate with and who don't deserve money or occupational protections? Your strawmans are on another level
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:19 PM
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All it takes is a 5 second google search https://www.nature.com/articles/ijir201247 Men generally respond to visual sexual stimuli, such as attractive nude or erotic pictures, or erotic films. Women respond differently to the same sexual stimuli. Some women feel repulsed by muscular, erotic male photos, and some are sexually attracted by emotional or lingual stimulation.3 In other words, men are more sexually aroused by visual stimuli, but women are more sexually aroused by concrete, auditory, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:13 PM
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ok then, under that broader definition I wouldn't knowingly date a porn actress. I watch a lot of MMA, many of the fighters are female. Do I need to be willing to date them, too? Or just porn actresses? I still don't see the connection between watching someone's content and willingness to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:31 PM
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I mean why would I? They tend to have a lot of psychological issues and baggage after coming out of the industry. Should I be willing to date everyone whose media I've watched, or just porn actresses?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:18 PM
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Sounds good to me. See ya
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:11 PM
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the post is shit. Isn't that what shitposting means?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:08 PM
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I've used porn, I would not date a porn actress. I would fuck a porn actress though, I'd be a hypocrite if I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:07 PM
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This is some Lilith tier shit posting, but ok Yet men hate the women who partake in it too. This is false, men don't mind women partaking in porn. For the sake of argument, let's say you're referring to RP and blackpill men. Let's assume they do "hate" certain women. How do you determine who they "hate"? whoever they criticize the most vocally. Which women are being criticized vocally? We know who that is, it's not porn stars. Men rarely rant about porn stars, they rant about the type of women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:00 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:17 PM
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I'd be happy to list a few AMALT traits if you could verify that we're on the same page that amalt IS a thing observable in men. If you reject or are unsure the idea of AMALT, then I'd rather not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:38 AM
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Arousal for men is very different than it is for women. Just looks alone can make men highly aroused. Which is beside the point that AWALT doesn't refer to anything you listed but to patterns you can always/almost spot in women, such as hypergamy, solipsistic communication, rigid conformity to their familiar/friendship circle, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:09 AM
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yeah good point. For example dopamine is a feature for animals and humans to seek out food and survive. In the modern world you have supernormal stimuli like hamburgers that make people obese because the ancient AF dopamine and serotonin mechanism still thinks its in a jungle eating grubs and stuff. I probably butched a lot of this but you get the idea. In a way, social media does the same type of thing, and porn, hard drugs and a lot of other stuff that makes modern life hell for a lot of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:23 AM
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Women are only attracted to the top 10-20% of men because you're one of the few who I've seen admit it. One day the gaslighting about this will end, THEN we can figure out what the reason actually is. People are still not ready for this conversation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:38 PM
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Are you talking about the fetus or the parent? The parents do have a choice -- they can choose not to get the procedure and have the kid instead. I get it though, muh tubes are worth more than some dumb fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:15 PM
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It's really no different, except that OF is a new paradigm of simping and the stigma is in the process of being communicated and established. I'm sure when pornography was being made in the 1920s people were reacting shrilly to it. The stigma has already been established around the other stuff and it's in maintenance mode now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:28 PM
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Because I don't think of those as relationships but rather a form of legalized prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:44 PM
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Try to address what other people say next time if you want the discussion to continue. Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:13 PM
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Yeah, at this point I'm being forced to repeat myself to correct you It'S EuGeNicS!!! it's not eugenics because x, y and z It'S EuGeniCs!!!! I already said it's not because x, y and z It's EugeNicS!!!! are you fucking serious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:58 PM
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my favorite: goblina (i.e a female goblin) I rarely use them but my god some of these are just funny
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:54 PM
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being douchey to everyone else. In practical terms, that means you always prioritize your SO and your future family over the needs of strangers. Exactly. I don't have an SO but that's why I'm a douche to everyone. It just means I prioritize myself. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:47 PM
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You're advocating eugenics and to sterilize people against their will It's not eugenics if their right to reproduce via IVF are protected, and it's not against their will if they opt-into it if they want an abortion Why am I still talking to you. ALL of your counter-arguments are just like this, I'm not going to go through them one by one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:11 PM
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So that is the epitome of is eugenics. Only the rich can breed. Planned Parenthood can work with hopeful parents by providing future IVF services They are absolutely considered a permanent form of birth control. You're arguing semantics. They are semi-permanent, but they CAN be reversed. Not that they even need to be, because there will be sperm set aside. People's rights to have a child should be protected. Irresponsible people's preference to have children specifically via orgasm and abort the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:38 PM
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Imagine your own family having such a low opinion of you that they feel concerned for the girl. lmao If your family is judging you this way, it's not caused by this one thing. There were already issues long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:03 PM
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Vasectomies have a 2% rate of complications. All you can really do is inform grown men and they can choose what risks to take. We don't need to hold their hand. Vasectomies aren't considered permanent, they can be surgically reversed. Even if they were semi-permanent, preserving sperm is dirt cheap. It's not eugenics. Planned Parenthood can work with hopeful parents by providing future IVF services in lieu of abortions. Imagine that, actual planned parenthood instead of throwing half a million r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:21 PM
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Oh I thought you meant important stuff like causing family issues or friends I don't think you realize how many guys do borderline antisocial shit to get a reaction out of judgy people. A lot of men are wired differently from women with all that shaming anxiety, if I notice someone's triggered irl I will milk it for all it's worth. I could see it wearing thin on the girl, so it would have to be a sugar baby or a chick with very thick skin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:44 AM
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What does social repercussions mean though? Any examples? If I can get a girl in her early 20s in my 40s, I probably will. I don't understand what social repercussions I'm supposed to be concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:05 AM
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not sure if you're referring to old men or post-wall women here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:02 AM
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That's not a majority. 20% of cohabitating women have multiple sex partners. Even if you ignore that and assume every cohabitating woman is in a committed relationship, STILL a slight minority. Deceptive wording again. Crazy. Why do you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:33 AM
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What was that about them having committed sex? Obviously they're not married, so how would you even know the level of committment? Be real for a minute, most of these women are sluts getting banged up for a second/third/fourth time by either the same absentee father or a new one. You're only convincing me more that getting them into a vasectomy / hysterectomy program would be valuable, these are people living like animals
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:15 AM
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If a doctor kills a pregnant mother's fetus against the mother's will? the child exists, doctor is charged with homicide If the mother gets a doctor to kill the fetus on her behalf, the child doesn't exist, yay heroic abortion doctor The difference between the child existing or not existing isn't based on reality but on the whims of one single person. peak clown world
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:04 AM
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Of course, most abortions are not the result of sluttiness, they're the result of mothers having committed sex "mothers having committed sex" wow, how deceptively you chose to word that. 85% of abortions are had by unmarried women, but they're moms trying to protect a child? You actually meant most abortions are from single mothers. Shocking that single piece of shit moms alone were responsible for over half a million abortions last year. According to the CDC Among the 42 areas that reported by …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 06:41 AM
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wat? I didn't say make abortion illegal. also, this is my 3rd time telling you that the guy can get a vasectomy in her place and she can get her abortion. You keep ignoring that, but it's such an easy solution for the woman. Her ovaries are only on the chopping block if the man refuses a vasectomy (lol), or if he already had a vasectomy (fucking LOL) you have to admit, it's pretty genius and necessary. When there's half a million fetuses per year being aborted, what's a few loins?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:48 AM
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you think they should pay for their husband's orgasms...with their life LOL how melodramatic Mothers with children aren't going to get an illegal abortion to have a shot at motherhood. They're mothers already! But more importantly, I said the man can get a vasectomy in her place. You keep ignoring that and trying to turn it into tragedy when it's really not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:25 AM
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And taking away a woman's chance of motherhood just because a condom broke is unspeakably cruel Yeah, but taking away a person's chance to live because the condom broke is apparently not that big a deal. 🤷‍♀️ assuming the guy isn't a scumbag, maybe he'd be willing to take the vasectomy. Vasectomies are easy, and sperm is very cheap to preserve if he wants to be a father. Honestly, this solves so many problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:51 AM
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Hi Barneysparky, nice to see you around here today. Hope you have a great day. Buh-bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:34 AM
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Yeah because I mentioned hysterectomy. Had I just left it at vasectomies you'd be cheering.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:29 AM
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No. They get a vasectomy or a hysterectomy after their first oopsie. You can't get pregnant without sperm and eggs, thereby reducing unwanted pregnancies. Just the possibility alone will get most "intact" people to pay a lot more attention to what they're doing. The US is aborting half a million fetuses PER YEAR. The disincentives are too weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:25 AM
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I consider it to be a net decrease in suffering, considering it would very quickly put an end to a lot of unwanted pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:06 AM
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Yeah it's disappointing that #meToo died off right as men started to refuse being alone in a room with a woman or mentor them in professional positions. Personally I'd love to see something like \#MeToo make a comeback, but this time in full force.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:55 AM
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Seems entirely practical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:41 AM
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I'm actually surprised men aren't going to jail for manipuating women into sex yet. I'm with you on this one. The faster we can pass laws like these the faster we can get to the interesting stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:37 AM
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You have an issue with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:34 AM
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So let's think of an actual constructive way to deal with it Asking doesn't always work. That's out. Chaperones worked in the past, but women don't want that. Maybe something new?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:31 AM
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You think men robbing liquor stores is something we just accept? lol you're missing the point -- criminals will not listen to your requests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:18 AM
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pretty absurd to expect it to work. Are you going to ask men not to rob liquor stores too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:13 AM
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I have a plan where agreement isn't needed, but it's still fair. Any abortion should require the man to consent to a vasectomy before the abortion procedure is performed. If the man disagrees, the abortion can only proceed conditional upon a hysterectomy. Either way, if a fetus needs to die someone's bits need to get taken out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:02 AM
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well, thank you. I do what I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:17 PM
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I'm down to ridicule anyone who thinks a devalued asset is worth a premium. I guess that makes me a very caring person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:37 PM
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young women have plenty of time to make babies so they can afford to be less selective. Nice. So why would anyone look at older women and care that they're getting more selective? Seems a pretty bold strategy to ratchet up price right as your value is taking a dive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:28 PM
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It was the girls who came from poor families scribbles something in notepad yeah, go on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:09 AM
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Exploiting your sexuality for personal gain isn't limited to sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:04 AM
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No doubt that masturbating to porn can become an addiction primarily for some guys. I think the vitality, becoming more attractive, etc are a stretch. Probably just the result of overcoming any addiction. I think it's very much unnecessary for most guys since most of them aren't actual addicts (like in the clinical sense of the word).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:55 AM
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If you could magically walk into a restaurant and read their minds it would reveal a lot of fucked up things, funny things, things that don't make sense and so on, things that actually tell you about an arguably "deeper" reality to these people and where you fit in it. Really, that's why a lot of us are here. One might say everybody dates their looksmatch like a person might say a rainforest is just a collection of trees and animals. True, but I think it's an oversimplification masquerading as p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:25 AM
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based on available research you've made a lot of claims and substantiated none of them so far. Where is the research
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 02:11 AM
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Women can fart therefore women are unironically funny sometimes, despite the naysayers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:12 AM
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blah blah situation in which someone might hurt them and go into fawn mode. We learned as children people pleasing was one of the only ways we could keep someone from escalating. What you actually said here isn't backed by any research that I know of. You're conflating early childhood socialization with fawn response which won't happen unless a child is actually being abused, but an abused child would exhibit fawn response whether male or female
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:02 AM
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Inverted demographic pyramids are a nightmare for governments because it causes economic stagnation and puts the entire system under strain. Not saying an aging population won't happen -- it probably will but it's not something the government would ever intentionally cause. They'll just start militarizing police once things get bad enough, much simpler solution and that doesn't require the government to be proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:30 AM
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Nope. That's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:18 AM
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As long as there's no leader to swoop in on the opportunity society may keep on trucking, but criminality will certainly increase at the very least. It's a documented effect in societies like these and the conditions aren't changing to stall criminality in any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:01 PM
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Things are going to get violent At best more and more men will just start becoming criminals, at worst somebody evil will come along to speak directly to the souls of frustrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:28 PM
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mind blowing, did you get that one from a fortune cookie?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:17 PM
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We already established what older men are typically valued for Any woman saying that younger women just want financial stability from an older guy is pretending that it's any different with older women. If it's true that younger women only want a guy for his money, also would older women want that same guy just for his money. No difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:50 PM
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Actually what’s happening are people who don’t meet those standards having a fit Just yesterday there was a woman on PPD throwing a fit that men ought be able to check off her laundry list and that she isn't going to budge
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:21 PM
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Well, you think older men are pursued for their looks? Attractive older men, yes. Unattractive older men, no. Also older women factor in your higher credit rating, earning power, nicer stuff etc just as much and sometimes even more than younger women. Older women, younger women, what you're valued for is all the same shit, to pretend older women are any better for the things they value in a man is a complete joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:09 PM
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blah blah assholes who abuse us and have money Thuggmax, my lovelies! It’s foolproof! You have no idea how entertaining it is to watch you act indignant over your own strawman arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 03:46 PM
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Regardless of how many people are overweight, being thin is easy mode compared to being fit. Being fit means thin AND muscular which is double the effort. If you meant me personally, I'm in athletic shape because I'm a huge Chad that enjoys working out and eating clean. Haven't even gained COVID weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:20 AM
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Yeah, drug dealers and gang members = money, status, dominance, power, and so on lawyers, doctors, engineeers = money, status, dominance, power and so on politicians, movie stars, famous athletes = money, status, dominance, power and so on You're right, at the end of the day ALL WOMEN really do want the same thing across all social classes and it doesn't matter what a man does as long as he attains these things. Thanks, SaBahRub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:53 AM
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nah, she's just a parasite. Traditional values for thee, but not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:32 AM
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Requiring men pay for her dinner means a woman is trying to get a free dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:24 AM
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I've never met a woman who does all sorts of convoluted schemes just to get a free dinner Yeah I've never met an FDS either but I"m not in any hurry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:19 AM
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but for men it's even worse: be fit. Seriously be thin is easy mode
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:46 AM
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Agreed, I think there's even been discussions to change the name to "Female Dinner Strategy" since it's more aligned with their actual goals
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:41 AM
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RPW, at least they understand men in the husband role better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:18 AM
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Serious non-rhetorical question - why do you even want to "get a man" to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:14 AM
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Yeah because you made the post about you and you're in here bitching about men. If you don't want people to tell you the truth, don't invite people to do it. It's not crazy for me to want a guy that's a healthy weight and an 8 or 9 as well, doesn't smoke marijuana, doesn't smoke cigarettes, doesn't drink constantly, isn't some kind of high n-count fuck boy, supports himself financially and doesn't still live off of mommy's money, can commit and be monogamous with me If you'er not meeting men lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:59 AM
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Stop asking me to lower my standards I'm 100% certain that unless you were whining about men, nobody has personally asked you to lower your standards. People just don't care that much about what standards some person online has.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:43 AM
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That's why marriage is being replaced with new traditions, like the man splitting the chores because she works part time now Marriage is on its way out save for the highly religious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:50 PM
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yeah, also your investment banker friend is already in the top 1% probably understands the diminishing return on effort invested to inching up what's left of the social ladder. When there's little room to move up, how are you even supposed to be hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:17 PM
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Nobody actually says that people aren't allowed to have ridiculous standards. Some people read criticism as "you're not allowed", so please fix this on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:30 PM
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Being with gang members and drug dealers is hypergamy for low class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:33 PM
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Men have to impregnate as many young, fertile women as they can so evolution works. naturalistic fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:48 PM
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ok, why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:54 PM
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well don't keep us all in suspense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:47 PM
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Yeah I guess we should just move on, nothing left to discuss here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:15 PM
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stay on topic please Educated women have a strong preference for educated men. Educated women significantly outnumber educated men. That's all there is to it, no need to whip out the hamster wheel for this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:11 PM
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Can you read? There are about 30% more female college grads than male. Even if every single one of them married one of those guys (they don't but for the sake of argument), there'd be a bunch of women left over looking for college graduate men. You played yourself bringing up highly educated women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:16 PM
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LOL higher educated women especially because they tend to want higher educated men, and they significantly outnumber the higher educated men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:04 PM
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Thus women have more options I agreed with you on that already. More options, but fewer GOOD options. Your haystack is just bigger now, great! Reailty is that good men get taken off the market and the remaining ones aren't such great options. With plenty of good men on the market dating in one's 30 should be a cakewalk for everyone, and it's obviously not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:51 AM
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Yeah, Chads end up fine. Becky hoes and incels are the ones who get the short end
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:29 AM
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I am 29 and blah blah men sending me blah blah inviting me blah blah As I have gotten older blah blah tbh I definitely get blah blah when I was 21 but when blah blah Don't care. Unless you're commenting on commonly shared experiences of women in their 30s, I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:15 AM
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ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:23 PM
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And once again I said don't justify yourSELVES -- as in women in general, I wasn't referring specifically you in this single instance. Are you playing dumb on purpose or are you really not understanding what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:19 PM
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You're not owed a justification of why blah blah blah I was referring to this. We're not owed justification -- don't justify yourselves then. The thing is women can't bear criticism about themselves without getting defensive over it. I'd love to see more of an dgaf attitude from women even if just for entertainment sake
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:10 PM
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Then don't justify yourselves. ezpz people can still criticize though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:05 PM
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that same chromosome difference causes males to be half a foot taller and develop broad shoulders - if you were a woman you'd probably find those things attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:56 PM
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I know that, I used fraternal twins instead of normal brother and sister to avoid the obvious weak arguments (e.g. my buddy's sister is more attractive than her brother)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:53 PM
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I'm talking about after puberty, as in adults
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:21 AM
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male/female fraternal twins are genetically like regular brothers and sisters. Not sure what you're trying to say That's the point, when you control for genetics are women really more attractive just for being female? Fraternal twins allows you to control for genetics. If being born female made you more attractive on average, then there should be observable difference in attractiveness when you control for genetics and vary the sex. But there isn't. tl;dr controlling for genetics BTFOs OPs argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:43 AM
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do you believe, that the LORD tonight has set you free?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:00 AM
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Male/female fraternal twins pretty much destroys this theory. If the sex made you more attractive, then sisters would be noticeably more attractive than their brothers. Good genes is just good genes regardless of male or female. edit: OP reinforcing the idea that women are living easy mode because they were born with a vagina and women in here nodding in agreement 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:38 AM
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Women snoozing and losing while the men they want get snatched up. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:18 AM
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But no self-respect. Get a real job dude. he also has very few fucks to give about comments like that. Just that kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:05 AM
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alright. go take over hr. enjoy! another boring ass cookie cutter response from you? It's like you're all programmed to say the same kind of shit in exactly the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:42 AM
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I already said he's in HR
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:34 AM
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Yes, exactly. As I said -- there's a shortage of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:09 AM
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Clerical is more broad than just secretary. He makes as much as an engineer but with less stress and less work. A lot of these female dominated office jobs are a racket, dudes should easily be snatching these jobs if they applied, but they just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:59 AM
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There's a shortage of those men. Anf ff isn't a shortage of 30 year old men focused on building and settling down, then maybe the types of women over at /r/datingoverthirty could use a little wakeup call about why they can't lock one down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:41 AM
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los angeles, probably other ones also but I haven't looked into it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:11 AM
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Meh, he likes the low stress and with a few years under your belt you're in 6 figures in big cities. These jobs are perfect for lazy, intelligent guys, maybe more so than the average women that get them and often turn the workplace into a shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:55 PM
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Nah, you definitely don't care about men. You just did a 180 as soon as I mentioned women in the same light, but how would that have been possible without looking like a hypocrite? Yeah fuck me agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:44 PM
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At first you seemed to emphatically agree that men are bad options, and just become worse. And you seemed very happy to leave it at that. Ahhh yeah but say something similar about women, NOW we need to remember that they're "just trying their best" and bust out the shitty medium.com psychology articles. Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:27 PM
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He's living the life. His company loves him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:07 PM
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They often choose less competitive fields. A buddy of mine went into a female-dominated clerical office job specifically because he knew how much of a bullshit easy make-work job it was. Very intelligent guy, just very lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:51 PM
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No they aren’t I am 29 when and my OLD is full of like Drs, Lawyers, Engineers If this were true in general, beyond your personal experience, then this would necessarily mean that the RP "myth" that men's options get better as they age is actually true because men are becoming Drs Lawyers, Engineers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:35 PM
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Yup, and same thing happens to men. Except in their 20s their options are very few, and the quality of women steadily goes downhill every year that passes. I guess the real red pill is that everyone sucks. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:20 PM
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Agreed that women still have a ton of options in their 30s. But these options are even worse than the options they were complaining about in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:58 PM
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Sometimes the person complaining is a hot dog on the ground too, but no one has the heart to tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:48 PM
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There's no guarantee that taking it slower would have resulted in the same or better outcome. Relationships sometimes end because the pace is too slow for one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 05:33 AM
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welp. Good thing you fell for it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:59 AM
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Irrational fear of loss in most cases. In a few cases, correctly understanding the values of the partner and lying because of a rational fear of loss. Had he admitted to the actual number, would you have left him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:55 AM
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This is maybe the first issue that I'm in total agreement with the majority of women on PPD. Also OP, "learn to flirt" advice is a red herring. Women only flirt with men they already find attractive, as they've just told you. It is what it is. Learn to flirt is a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:35 PM
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I already explained why imo it's a dysfunction when it comes to a lot of women And I'm dropping this convo now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:07 PM
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The laundry list of requirements is a woman trope for a reason. I'll readily concede that men have their own set of equally bad dysfunctions, but it's definitely not this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:09 AM
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As filthyburrows said, if both partners meet them then it's reasonable. You seem to have no issues, so whatever you're doing must be right for you. But where it goes wrong is generalizing it for women who often fail to meet reasonable standards applied to them. If we want to have a discussion beyond just your personal life, we have to be able to separate these things out and see if it applies more broadly and I think a lot of the time it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:13 PM
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You don't have to be young but you hav to be able to make up for it in other ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:47 AM
1

ah yeah, of course. No surprises here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:41 AM
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or crash the party with a baggie of cocaine and joke with the tattooed chicks that they should to do a line off your penis
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:24 AM
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Just because someone doesn’t meet one’s exact standards doesn’t mean they’re falling short. Much of what this sub seems to forget is compromise, which is often conducive to extra benefits that were not initially conceived in one’s standards. ok, now tell that to NarniaFox
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:44 AM
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If the proportion of those men continues to grow significantly, as it has been lately, you will be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:46 PM
1

I somewhat agree. After all a lot of men find purpose in work, or religion, or community. There are viable alternatives. Just telling men to find a purpose isn't going to do it though. If modern men decide that the available purposes are "too much work", then society has a real problem on their hands. I'm not even arguing that it should be fixed, after all who am I to say what should be done? I'm just saying it won't be fixed and the consequences will be ugly. Before you accuse me of a revenge f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:08 PM
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the manosphere is probably a symptom that results from there being a large number of unhappy men in society, so no you're probably not right about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:04 PM
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It's not just incels, it's unhappy men. A large enough group of unhappy men controlled by the right leader against the right scapegoat WILL lead to horrifying results. And it's not necessarily revolution. Could be, or it could be civil unrest, or civil wars, or conventional wars, or violent criminality, or genocides. In history it's not unusual to see one of these leading to another, or a combination of these things simultaneously, or it could take on a new shape that we haven't seen before. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:25 PM
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What are you even talking about lol. Sandwich?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:07 PM
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the quality women who this criteria is coming from that often makes it unreasonable. oops I didn't judge all women. Often doesn't mean every single one, it just means often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:02 PM
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Pull them up to his level, or be complementary to one another’s lifestyles? Pull them up to his level. Is a man failing short of his own standards ever "complementary" to the lifestyle of a woman who has her shit together? No, so why would it be any different the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:58 PM
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everything you expect from your partner you should be able to do the same or make up for in another way and this in my opinion is why GenZedEd is ultimately right. Most women are a work in progress (to put it nicely) in at least one area of their life, but they require a partner who already has all his shit together. It's not so much the criteria itself, but the quality women who this criteria is coming from that often makes it unreasonable. You broads will whip up a 16 point checklist of what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:49 PM
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Modern societies have decided a large population of aimless purposeless men is not a problem, because the men can be contained by virtual distractions forever My prediction is that every country taking this approach will meet a violent end
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:25 PM
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I recommended some friends to couples therapy because they were young, and it worked. I think it only worked because they both sincerely wanted it to work but didn't know wtf they were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:18 AM
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Prime Thalia is a 10 for me, blows almost everyone in this thread out of the water Ideal situation would be prime Catherine Zeta Jones and prime Thalia fighting over my dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:58 AM
0

Thalia Sodi in her prime was a 10 imo pic for reference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:58 PM
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Women file the majority of divorces regardless of country/culture, why do you think that is? It's men's fault™
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:01 PM
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A woman telling a man about her day or her relationship troubles isn’t being an “emotional tampon”, she’s being a friend, hoping that he will reciprocate and share, and ultimately trying to connect with him as another human being. Listening to a woman's relationship troubles with another man is antithetical to how men connect. You need girl friends for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:51 PM
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It doesn't bother me at all. I've decided not to even try to develop an underlying theory for female behavior, and people are welcome to think whatever they want about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:27 PM
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The list of actors sucked ass, but the football linemen was a good counterexample. I'm trying to give you credit for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:23 PM
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A lot of the time it's not even an pontificating RP, but a defensive BP woman who when you point something out, doesn't deny it but bombards you with reasons. I agree with death_by_1000_cats though, the why's are not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:16 PM
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Sex is a requirement. Body count -- it depends for what kind of relationship. Could be very important, could be not important at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:09 PM
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No to that list, but I think you make a very good point w/ offensive linemen. Super athletic fat guys might be the exception, I hadn't thought of that. By far that's the best example imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:55 PM
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how are women in existence to be used by the better genes men if most of them aren’t even reproducing with them? 🤔 ... At the end of the day any child that results from the act is genetically hers and his you really do have the attention span of a goldfish, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:44 PM
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the future of America
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:52 PM
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I said most intelligent progressive women want to pay because the ones that lie are not very intelligent. They're cmpromising their identity as your equal for the price of a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:33 PM
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Just get her thoughts on gender equality during the date. Problem solved. Most intelligent, progressive women I've dated actually WANTED to pay for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:17 PM
1

I was asking about SMV, and I was asking specifically about fat. Let me put it this way: in a list of 100 sexiest celebrities, which one would be the sexy fat guy? it is not necessarily just fat guys, it's just guys who are much older, much less attractive, etc., who while they may not be "fat", are nowhere near as hot as their SOs If you have examples of what I'm actually asking about, name one but please don't derail into other stuff. Fats only.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:02 PM
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The instinct of self preservation is much stronger than any instinct to protect strangers. Depending on the situation, I might try to save a child. For a woman I don't know: hang tight, I'll call the cops for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:09 AM
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From a quick google search: they claim the relationship has always been platonic. Ouch. We probably know who's decision that was. Jonah Hill reports to barely even seeing her since they acted in Superbad back in 2007.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:13 PM
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wife suggests RMV. I was asking about SMV What famous fat guy would you say is SEXUALLY appealing to women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:10 PM
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Being fat decimates a woman's SMV, but a man can compensate in other ways It's questionable whether any fat man has ever amassed enough wealth, humor or success to really compensate for the hit his SMV takes. Can you think of any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:00 PM
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let the nagging begin
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:34 AM
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Does she have a cute face and a nice ass? Then men are interested. Does she look busted? Then some men are interested, just not as many.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:53 PM
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There is some chump for anyone! And it should be stopped. It breeds genetic inferiority in women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqX64KW7og
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:45 PM
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Women grow up and they realise part of being an adult is having a stable life I've had my fun, and now I'm ready to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:03 PM
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Hope you find what you need I know a nice psychiatrist, Lilith. Let me know if you want the introduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:03 PM
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surprised by the # of women that went to introduce themselves to another new guy in the class 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:14 AM
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it's a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:11 AM
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Top ranked colleges or faith based colleges (if you're religious) are probably your best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:59 PM
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Uh oh, this sounds like BS to me. Every state has a professional license lookup for practically every licensed profession, including occupational therapy. You should already know this. You are very likely either lying about being licensed, or you are lying about not being allowed to share it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:44 PM
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I love how PPD seems to hate this question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:33 PM
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Why don't you ask the millions of women who complain about being used for sex? Come on now, I know I don't need to spell it out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:59 PM
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Not with the "better genes" guys that you were talking about. Accept reality, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:00 PM
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Maybe for the small minority women who actually manage to reproduce with them. The rest are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:54 PM
1

In my opinion, marriage itself isn't an equal agreement for men, and that needs to be acknowledged by whoever I'd be marrying. It's great that it works for you guys, but this kind of arrangement is not for me. Everyone has different requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:59 PM
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Great. Are you done now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:24 PM
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And If they don't have insight, you will just end up with a person contradicting you and irritating you with pointless arguments that never go anywhere. Not a fun time, I'd rather avoid it. Yeah, I agree. Insightful as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:19 PM
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Stop wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:13 PM
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I didn't say you "can't" I said most of the time that isn't going to be a girl you're dating. Insight is not a common quality you find in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:52 PM
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The only reason women exist at all is to be a vagina for the genetic winners to use. See, taking the genetic competition argument does women no favors either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:12 PM
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You're welcome to think what you want about me having an agenda or anything you want about the arguments I presented. I don't see a reason to justify or defend -- I've expressed what I believe, and you can either take either it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:29 PM
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I wasn't talking about any "dating preferences" I'm more live and let live when it comes to sharing the planet. I mean you're already here. I think the idea that women are these great counterparts that men should cherish is mostly just a ridiculous mass-delusion. Let me put it this way: it seems that many men could have evolved to be much better counterparts for most women than we currently are. Instead of being so sex-minded, or so emotionally distant or visually oriented or whatever complaints…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:45 AM
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Instead of shaming, receiving government aid should be conditional upon a verified hysterectomy. For the damage they cause to society, it's entirely justified. To say "it's behavior doesn't strengthen society" is a ridiculous understatement. Single motherhood leads to a significant increase in children who grow up to be drug abusers, be gang members, be expelled from school, be committed to reform institutions, and become juvenile murderers. Statistically speaking, single mothers are a cancer on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:07 AM
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I said input is more valid when it comes from someone with unusual insight. Most of the time, that's not going to be a girl you're dating. And If they don't have insight, you will just end up with a person contradicting you and irritating you with pointless arguments that never go anywhere. Not a fun time, I'd rather avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:27 AM
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For the male equivalents, NOBODY will give you a shot until you fix it. And when you do fix it, it improves to "barely" anyone giving you a shot. Whenever one of these is an issue for women, plenty of other men will be willing to give them a shot anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:53 AM
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It's not like you're takling to a zen monk who's going to present you with new insights and perspectives. Challenges your views just means she's just going to contradict your views with her own nonsense about MBTI or why you should be a vegan. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:22 AM
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And again, why is this feminists' problem in the first place? You brought up feminists, not me. I'm happy to just ignore any mention of feminists as an attempt to derail. Did you have anything else to add or are we done?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:05 AM
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That's not correct. Back in 2016 there was a House Resolution to include women in selective registration and thousands of women of all kinds, feminist and not, banded to end SSR for everyone -- men and women. Then as soon as the bill was shelved, the women disappeared. As long as it's just men being sent off to die, women seem to be in favor of it. Stop trying to blame feminists. I don't care if you're not a feminist, you're a burden regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:29 AM
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Marriage fantasy? lol Let me put it this way: if a chick proposed TO ME, she better have a hell of a deal ready for me to say yes. If she told me she wanted to split chores I'd laugh her out of the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:16 AM
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Men are REQUIRED to register for selective service to have the right to vote. Women are just granted the right to vote without any requirements or responsibilities. Women have shown that they will betray soldiers who are trying to protect the country. Women are enjoying rights that men need to earn, but want to be seen as equal. They refuse responsibility at every turn, but they want respect. As long as women insist on being coddled like this, women will never know respect, and they will never b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:03 AM
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Am I supposed to care? I don't. I'm not dying for you. If you don't fight, I don't fight and I will absolutely be making it known why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:04 AM
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This isn't the 1940s. Expecting young men to give up their lives for you while they're in the process of dropping out of society at unprecedented rates sounds completely delusional to me, but ok. Some people refuse to see the writing on the wall. I'll be flipping the bird to you and any entitled woman who expects me to lay down my life for them, and there will be more guys like this than you thought possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:43 AM
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It sounds like you're set on choking on Communist Chinese dick, that's fine with me too. In the meantime, enjoy your un-earned right to vote and un-earned right to own land.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:18 AM
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You read what I wrote about SSR, that's a step in the right direction. Stop making excuses, we can send you hogs to MEPS and sort out the details later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:09 AM
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Be my guest
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:55 AM
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Here's how you meet the physical standards for selective service registration as a man: you're between the ages of 18 and 26 and you have a pulse Great, I'm glad we agree then, childless women can and should be expected to fight in whatever upcoming war there is. You DON'T get to sit back and then fuck your way out of it with the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:53 AM
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worse spatial processing, worse hand eye coordination Looks like it's time to revoke the surgical licenses of a lot of female doctors then, they're a liability in a surgery room! Got any other bullshit excuses for why women can't go to war? How about this: you're cowards who think only men should die, but you demand equal (or better) treatment than them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:25 AM
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That question is what the "self centered sack of flesh" part is getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:18 AM
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You point a barrel, you pull a trigger. If the malnourished 5'4, 130lb vietcong were able to do it, then so can you. Let's stop pretending it's a physical limitation. You're talking about a competency limitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:59 PM
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Women are sexist but only when it helps them avoid the parts of equality they don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:42 PM
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I don't buy that. Women would make great cannon fodder. It's hilarious how quickly women turn all sexist against their own gender when the prospect of fighting in war comes up. Suddenly they're totally ok with being viewed as incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:59 PM
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This conversation isn't going anywhere. You think it's me who was moralizing and not actually calling out hypocrisy, is this basically it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:53 PM
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You brought up "shit ethics" and "race to the bottom". Are you unable to remember your own comments? If you use some people's shit ethics as an excuse for you to have shit ethics, then we're in an arms race to the bottom. Also I guess I have to repeat myself that if ever I'm takling about morals over practicality it's because I'm calling out the hypocrisy of moralizers. Which is exactly what I've been doing in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:24 PM
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I don't moralize, race to the bottom means nothing to me. If ever I'm takling about morals over practicality it's because I'm calling out someone else's hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:12 PM
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There's no point of fighting a war to protect people who will ultimately collaborate with enemies. Actually it's an insult to people who sacrificed their lives to protect others. It's a good lesson to learn from. If women aren't equally involved in fighting alongside men next war, men should desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:06 PM
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I get this is just how nature made them, not their fault. HOWEVER From my point of view, this reality makes women way less likeable and kills a huge part of the "fun" of sharing this Earth with them. It's like nature (or God, or whatever) decided every single step will have to be an uphill battle with women. Are men allowed to enjoy anything without having to cater to a self centered sack of flesh looking back demandingly at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 08:56 PM
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IIRC something like 95% of white women had strict racial preference for white men. "there are no good men left" for a lot of women, part of what "good" means is being white. It's just never explicitly said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 06:06 PM
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Why do I participate here: everyone who adopts some ideology to any extent is responsible for testing it. So for someone who is testing the validity of TRP, knowing and confirming (and re-confirming) that the opponents to TRP are largely a bunch of moralistic hypocrites can be incredibly valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:52 PM
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NOTHING will be done. There will be some kind of technological crisis in the next 10-20 years and overnight, men will temporarily become useful again. That's really the only optimistic take I can think of. Unless something like this happens things will be extra fucked because too many unmotivated men will become a deadweight on society
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:17 AM
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Agreed, older more established men are the most eligible to be scammed into marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:02 AM
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If I really believed that, then I shouldn't be a part of PPD? I'm not sure I see the logic behind the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:42 AM
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Some women have eating disorders or panic attacks regarding their body. When it gets to that point it's undeniably a body image issue. Like a lot of things it's probably a spectrum, but yeah there are tons of people towards the normal end of the spectrum with standard old inadequacy and insecurities whining about being chubby. That's not a body issue and it trivializes the people who have actual problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:35 AM
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You have plenty of people disagreeing with you too, they're just buried under everyone masturbating themselves and upvoting each other. I'm sure the same would happen to a TRP's CMV is the mods would actually let it happen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:38 PM
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This entire post is a massive circle jerk. I had to scroll past the first 10 responses agreeing with OP to finally find a single post that actually tried to challenge the OPs view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:43 PM
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The type of consultant doesn't really matter as long as it's part time, from home (or optional remote), and pays a lot. I do know that people in the tech and marketing sectors can pull something like this off. You do absolutely need to become a front-runner in your area of expertise though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:21 PM
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Something like a consultant who works from home part-time but ends up making something comparable to a full-time salary. Actually this is an ideal for me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:10 PM
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I'm not getting married to get someone to split chores with. If the woman wants to cook, clean, and raise children, and she wants to get married I'll consider it. If she wants to split the chores, we don't need to get married I can do my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:17 PM
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Not really. I prefer virgin women for marriage or long term commitment. Actually, it's a hard requirement. But also, I have no pressing need to get married. You're only obligated to wait for sex on dates from women who are actually virgins. Which is almost nobody. The majority of it is average women switching up their strategy to make men wait, nobody is obligated to wait for those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:46 PM
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People regularly victim blame women in real life for rape or IPV. So should we just use that as a justification to not care about male victims? It's pretty clear to me "we" already do, we meaning this community. If you use some people's shit ethics as an excuse for you to have shit ethics, then we're in an arms race to the bottom. Yes, exactly. It is a race to the bottom that this community has engaged in with TRP. Which is why I said appealing to TRP men to care about female victims at this poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:40 PM
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I'm not really seeing the connection to the comment I wrote, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:49 AM
1

hold on a second what just happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:46 AM
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It's not really could be anything. It's almost certainly this: he prefers the everyday company of LTR girl a lot more than the PnD girls, and she's pretty enough. Assuming you're pretty enough, you're competing on the quality of your companionship. OP a sure way to make men dislike you is if he finds out that's a new strategy to make men commit instead of values you've always lived by. Whores might have screwed themselves over on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:36 AM
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Yeah partially. It also seems to be an unconscious "men are monsters" effect at play. Especially given the number of women who can't seem to walk alone in a regular neighborhood without having a seizure, I wouldn't be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:59 AM
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It's not like blaming TRP about shitty women is a rare occurrence around here, by any means. copouts like that is why appealing to TRP men to care about female victims is a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:14 AM
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As I said, it's normally pointed and harsh stuff BLAMING THE GUY, and AT BEST DISMISSIVE. This community, which seems to consider itself morally superior to TRP mysoginists, engages in the same victim blaming and trivialization of abuse. It's not a matter of being gentle, it's a matter of not being hypocrites (not particularly you, I mean PPD in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:09 AM
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"A big issue I have with TRP and the manosphere is how they defend abusers" No, she is definitely pinning the defense of abusers on TRP. Also it seems pretty clear that by bringing up JWG's victims, OP is appealing for TRP men to care more about abused women. BUT she seems to ignore how PPD essentially victim blames or dismisses TRP men when they recount past relationships with abusive women. How do you expect these dudes to care if PPD trivializes the same thing happening to them? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:59 AM
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Subjective, BUT people's evaluation of beauty can be so general that certain things might as well be considered objectively beautiful or ugly. That's the most realistic answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:29 AM
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Ah, your internal mechanisms aren't working in your best interests. Never seen it put that way before. I have seen the kinds of feedback TRP men get about abusive women, it's normally pretty pointed and harsh stuff blaming the guy, and at best dismissive, but then people seem to expect TRP men to give a shit about victims of abuse. As long as it's not me doing it, I honestly don't care. I'll take care of my own problems, women can take care of theirs because it's very clear we are not in this to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:04 AM
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Then which one is it? Are both TRP and women victims when they're abused, or are both TRP and women responsible for choosing abusers? Or are we just picking and choosing based on who we're debating?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:39 AM
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You have no actual argument so you're resorting to misusing a psychology buzzword you don't actually understand. So only TRP are responsible for their poor choices in abusive women, but women are victims of abusive men. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:36 AM
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I meant TRP, but really either one. I only defend my own views.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:26 AM
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Men of PPD, thanks for your honesty!! None of you said yes lmao. I'll be referring to this thread every time I feel guilty about rejecting a man You asked about marriage, so you mean every time you reject a man who proposes you to get married? ok so 0 times then. Great
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:10 AM
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False equivalence. It's possible to believe that JWG's victims had no responsibility for what happened AND that women who make poor choices in men deserve the consequences of that poor choice, ESPECIALLY if they do it repeatedly. At least this is what TRP are constantly reminded of that from users here on PPD of the quality of women they end up with, so for you to be making that point is nothing short of absolute hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:02 AM
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bye, if you want respect maybe try not bullshitting people, I hear that works great
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:50 AM
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Maybe I mistakenly I read the OP as making a case for why men should care about the abuse of women by making a reference to the abuse of boys. I mean if this is just about criticising TRP then go right ahead, even as someone who likes TRP philosophy I see no reason to defend or justify whatever views people try to pin on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:47 AM
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I'm avoiding it because it's dishonest. I don't engage in dishonest questions, I call them out. If you're talking about abuse, then say abuse. If you're talking about rape, then say rape. Don't say just say abuse if you want the conversation to be only specifically about sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:34 AM
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Stop with this fuckery about crying on a date please. Women can and sometimes do abusively manipulate others -- yes or no? There are many laws to protect children of abuse just like there are many laws to protect animals. The majority of it goes unreported and and unenforced. Can you pls provide some specific examples of what you think should be considered equal to male abuse I've already said physical abuse of boys (much more so than girls) is primarily exacted by mothers. It's pretty much an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:28 AM
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As you said there's been a trend of female teachers prosecuted for rape and sexual abuse, yet her example of "boys can be abused too" is from a single case of a serial rapist from 40 years ago. There definitely seems to be an bias to pin abuse on men however possible when bringing up the conversation. Not particularly the OP but pretty much everyone. It's probably not even conscious, people probably just get brainwashed into that type of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:00 AM
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Manipulation sure, but for manipulation it to be classified as abuse is rare even if it could be considered abusive. Ghislaine Maxwell is a very rare case, and even then it's ultimately tied to the actions of a man. Is female abuse really as rare like cases of Ghislaine Maxwell, the way society seems to treat it? I think that's demonstrably false. It's an incredibly common, everyday thing just like male abuse is, but people either don't mind it as much or are terrified to be labeled mysoginistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:38 PM
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I'm sure women do sometimes groom and manipulate, but it's clearly associated with men. I don't know how this isn't obvious to anyone who saw the Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein scaldals. Women seem to take the more direct route of directly abusing children by hitting them. And I don't think a lot of the abuse women do to men is really considered abuse. It's pretty worthless to say "it's never the victim's fault" when men are rarely considered victims of actual abuse in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:06 PM
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Grooming and manipulation are not the only types of abuse. A lot of mothers engage in simple physical abuse, particularly of boys, I think from a study I read it was around 20% who reportedly hit boys with objects which isn't insignificant. If you want to talk about specifically about grooming and manipulation, let me as this again: You SAY that abusers can be male or female which sounds fair, but then you go on to focus only on aspects of abuse that are primarily associated with men. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:50 PM
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Source for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:45 PM
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Blah blah John Wayne Gaycey blah blah. Now that you see how easily boys and men can also be preyed on, does it change anything for you? Let's start by acnowledging that women are very often abusers. You SAY that abusers can be male or female which sounds fair, but then you go on to focus only on aspects of abuse that are primarily associated with men. Why? In fact a good chunk of child abuse (and EXPECIALLY abuse of boys) comes from shitty moms, yet you use a single case of John Wayne Gacy, a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:27 PM
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Smart: 100 athletic: 100 funny: 100 cool: 100 chadly: 100
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:08 PM
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There's a lot of dudes who don't enjoy dating at all, but there's really no solution to that. Dating is practically a required ritual you have to go through to meet women, but it favors only a very particular type of relationship from the get-go by making it customary for the man to "invest" in the woman. imo these rituals set a specific tone to the relationship from the very start, but not everyone wants that. And before you say it, a lot of successful guys who can socialize just fine with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:31 PM
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It's always been the same: highly educated asian girls. I don't know why since I'm not highly educated myself, or white.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:49 PM
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I'm obviously not losing sleep over some random girl online that nobody likes deciding she's going to stay single. Nothing of value has been lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 08:11 PM
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Better to stay single then chances are very likely that you're not the type that guys want to be with long term in the first place, so I don't see what the problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:48 PM
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"men are responsible for women's blah blah" Why are there so many of these kinds of posts? It's such a ridiculous mentality to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:26 PM
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Women aren't that dumb, they know this but don't want to acknowledge that they passively sat back while the guy did most of the heavy lifting. The alternative is just aeshetically nicer, makes it sound like they're the protagonist in a romantic comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:43 PM
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The answer is probably no because it's very unlikely you're going to meet an unattractive woman whose personality stands out THAT much from the more attractive women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:23 PM
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you meet a childless, reasonably intelligent woman in her 20s with a good personality BUT she has a lot of surface-level flaw Depends on her n count. It would be very unwise to assume she hasn't been a ho just because she isn't pretty. After that, it depends on how much I like her as a person. It would have to be like I NEED to lock this girl down or I will never find someone like her ever again. So the answer is probably no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:13 PM
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As a man who has never had to worry about any of those things, I can assure you getting respect and human decency just isnt worth as much as some of you think it is. It won't make you happier. steak
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:00 AM
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Respect won't make women happier So women should stop obsessing over not getting enough respect. source: just be real with yourselves also, something something steak
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:07 AM
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PPD on nice guys = they're just manipulative assholes who would rape a woman if they could get away with it PPD on waatgm = well, it's a mixed bag ya know?! half of it is just vitriol directed at women who are honestly trying their best with the awful men in their lives! Why all the hate? 🤷‍♀️ This is the so-called nuanced discussion PPD prides itself on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:51 PM
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everybody involved in that kind of petty internet argument is a loser everybody on PPD right now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 04:20 PM
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Ultra religious women will very often wait for a man who is similarly ultra religious in her particular religion. This is the case for most religions be it Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Mormon, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 03:57 PM
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Load up tinder and look at the photo of the first guy that comes up. Literally the first guy, what does he look like? It's mathematically very likely (i'd say 95% confidence) to be close enough to "average guy". caveat: if you do this chances are you will think you got a somewhat unattractive guy by chance, but nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 06:28 AM
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The premise that many of the guys here have stated that sex is the only thing that women give them? No. The incorrect premise we've been talking about for the past 4 comments is that some men are constantly thirsty just because they happen to want sex more often than their partner. Sometimes I wonder how people have the patience not to snap on you with these idiotic non-sequiturs of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 06:06 AM
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No. The fact is that men tend to have a shorter period for wanting sex than women, that doesn't mean they're "constantly thirsty" although it may seem that way to some women. You're basing it on an incorrect premise, that's why the advice is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 04:41 AM
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Almost nobody is constantly thirsty except for sex addicts, so what you're saying is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 03:11 AM
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Men generally like having sex between once a day to a few times a week. That IS the middle for men. No one's really trying to have sex 24/7, that's bordering on sex addiction. So again, not helpful because you seem unable to even see normal male sexuality with any sense of clarity in the first place. There is really nothing to learn from you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 03:00 AM
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There is a huge gap between your asexual husband and "not being sexually thirsty every day" that your advice fails to bridge. A male with an average male sex drive can hold off some, but beyond a couple of days he'd be supressing it. Why even remain with a person if you're forced to do that (or in your case, forced to put up with it)? And that is why your advice isn't helpful for men. It comes from a point of view of a woman who has a lower sexual desire than an average young man, and the anecdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 02:53 AM
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cool
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 12:04 AM
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the benevolent sexism is believing that the woman is completely blameless and that only the man is accountable for having done something wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 12:03 AM
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then there's less of a reason to hire an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:40 PM
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Not just to lose his virginity, if he's like a lot of early 20s men and cares about having a casual sex life outside of escorts, he should pay a few escorts a year to habituate himself to sex and to catch up to the casual sex market. do not listen to the female brained people giving dumb advice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:19 PM
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Benevolent sexism in favor of women isn't exclusively a patriarchal thing. The US is gradually moving away from patriarchy while benevolent sexism increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:12 PM
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this Group A's (whatever) is Group B's fault this is the template of people who want to shift accountability from Group A's behavior to Group B. It's the same mentality as fat people who sue McDonalds, if they just wouldn't have made all that junk food they wouldn't have eaten it! Whose fault is it that women are entitled? Men's fault for being simps. Whose fault is it that men simp for women? That's men's fault too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:20 AM
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but we're working on it because we care, so hang in there. tell that to the victims. Sociopaths aren't losing sleep over it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:44 AM
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Everything is a turn off if you don't give a sh*t about the person. People who say depression is a turn off are vile ok but what makes your depression more valid than my sociopathy if neither of us can help it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:00 AM
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I have no use for that personally, but thank you for offering.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:55 PM
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I don't really need people with advice I need people with skills, knowledge, and resources. Can you create content, can you collaborate on code, can you design things, can you sell things, do you speak multiple languages, do you have connections or resources? Do you have a law, medical, or dental degree? Are you a motivational speaker? Maybe you own some sort of specialized equipment? Do you have deep knowledge in some domain that you can teach me? Probably not -- which is fine but any of this b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:02 PM
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Finally a good question. I have a couple of friends and family members who matter to me. My creative work, developing my mind, discernment, wisdom, compassion. My health matters to me just as long as it's stable. Expressing myself honestly is important to me. It's not very many things. I'd rather be totally apathetic to everything else, but there are these echoes in consciousness, you can't snap your fingers and decide you will never procrastinate or waste time, it's something that needs to be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:50 PM
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It's like you're literally here just to waste people's time. Thanks for the "help" I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:46 PM
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You can help me develop more apathy towards distractions. Or help me develop more interest in things that really matter. Otherwise you're not helping in any way, you're just labeling and calling things "sad" like an unthinking robot. I can't do anything with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:27 PM
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Do you find it "sad" that I'm apathetic about consumer culture, TV and videogames also? Maybe I should be obsesssing about the next iphone I buy? My gues is that you're just calling it "sad" (which is a fake sad btw) because you want to decide what people should consider important. How accurate would you say that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:22 PM
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Apathy about videogames or TV can be good. Apathy about consumer culture, is good. Apathy towards social causes, or movements in a country that is too far gone, is good. Apathy towards a financial culture of extraction. And add relationships in there for me. Most things people tell you to care about don't actually improve your condition in the long run, so most of the time apathy can be considered liberation. The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide, is a superpower that few pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:54 PM
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Because it's very fucking weird, but so far it seems like no one is lying. It's very "fucking weird" because you're trying hard to believe what is obviously bullshit. It's pretty much a given that by far, the method that most relationships start these days (serious and FWBs) is online. Also, tinder is the largest online dating app. As you noted, very few men are slinging dick, be it on Tinder or elsewhere. However. STD rates continue to increase year over year for the past 2 decades. Chlamydia a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:33 PM
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The graduation rates between male and female college students does skew slightly towards women but only by a couple of %. There is probably no social implication due to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:08 PM
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When it comes to marriage, millenial women are getting sent their own way. It's just sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:34 PM
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That's not how the rules go Only men need to compensate. Women never need to compensate, because they have a vagina they are automatically equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:21 PM
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They're disrespectful to people they don't respect. I don't see what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:18 AM
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omg it is like so vehemently ill mannered to point this out, you must be a radical RP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:05 AM
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Too late for what? Too late for women to notice is probably around 16-17. By this age most women start to rack up more experience than most guys. Too late for it to not affect your romantic chances with a lot of them, probably if you're past college age. Few women actually in practice, tolerate late bloomer men with huge experience gaps unless they make up for it in other way$. Too late that it's a major hindrance to forming relationships, probably 30s and 40s. By this point you probably act lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:02 AM
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Actual studies override your observation. https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/researchers-tested-which-male-body-shapes-women-find-the-most-attractive-its-not-good-news-men/ Soft bodied men are "wining" the commitment because there's not enough hot men to go around for that. Only a tiny % are willing / able to put in the insane amount of consistent work it takes to have the kind of body that's actually the most popular with women (the kind that some women will actually break their "rul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:31 AM
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There's a cliche among the smooth brained masses that dying alone would be a horrible fate. Divorce late in life greatly increases the odds of that. Even the bullshit reasons to commit to another person are rapidly dwindling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:32 AM
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This is a failure to understand human motivation. If men got enough out of the male side of romance, or if women made it worth it for men to continue it, they would. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:18 AM
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I think so, I also think this is why jealousy works really well for men who have attractive girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:29 PM
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Women don't have much to offer to us. I mostly agree with you personally, but not for men in general. General perception shapes the general reality. If men generally perceive that women have a lot to offer them, then they DO simply because they agree on it. Men collectively deciding women are valuable, automatically means they're valuable even if most of the women are actually crap. It's like how people accept the value of gold. Gold doesn't really offer much to people, but people collectively a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:18 PM
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Generally it would be rare, but with the exception where intense arguing is a source of co-dependency in the marriage between two mentally ill individuals. Then it's probably often but also a reason they stay together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:30 PM
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Mostly agreed, except I'd say that practically all statist governments NEED their subjects to have kids, not just capitalist ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:15 PM
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I think governments have determined that this would undermine their ability to extract taxes from their people in the long run. That's the only reason married people get these privileges, it's not because the government is a bunch of nice guys that just want to help nuclear families.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:06 PM
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fair enough, so you're saying you want to retain the legal privileges that the government recognizes in marriage, but with your own terms in a contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:59 PM
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allow people to create legal contracts with anyone they want. Isn't this already possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:49 PM
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Interesting I never made that connection but it would make sense if true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:42 PM
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I...guess we agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:24 PM
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Ok then, most of the men women want, in the cases where they're committing at all, will tend to favor big boob, fat ass Stacies for commitment. If these men can afford to have the same high standards for commitment as they do for fucking, how does that change anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:48 PM
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ONLY wanting to fuck big boob stacies and wanting to fuck ANY woman who spreads are mutually exclusive. The operating keyword here is "only". You should have taken that intro to formal logic class in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:41 PM
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they are mutually exclusive if you can read and are actually using logic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:59 PM
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It really means "the men I want to only want big boob, fat ass Stacy and the rest of the desperate losers are willing to fuck any woman who spreads" My guess is they just don't know how to articulate it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:44 PM
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Great, who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:36 PM
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Oh ok your feelings were hurt by it. Oh well. I thought we were done? Why are you still dragging this out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:31 PM
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Yeah, that is what I said, not sure why you're quoting it back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:30 PM
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ok bye
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:02 PM
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No. You don't get to decide for me that I'm neurotic or have feelings of low self worth. Is there any other stupid underhanded shit you'd like to try or are we done?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:53 PM
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It's not value judgment on the person's morality, it's a judement on the person's VALUE. That's what a value judgment means. There is nothing left to say. I rest my case
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:45 PM
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”to be desired or approved of” “having the qualities required for a particular role.” If you DEFINE a good person as someone who meets certain qualities, then BY DEFINITION you think that person is a good person. When you're talking about tools or objects it's not a problem at all, when you're talking about human beings, it's utterly fucked up to use this definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:42 PM
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If "good" were taken to mean a laundry list of qualities that I wish from the opposite sex, then most men would also find there are barely any good women either. Would it be accurate to say good women are the only ones who fit my personal criteria, implying the rest of of the women are not good? Or would this make me just a bit entitled? Would people maybe point out that women with these qualities are out there and I just can't attract them? Ah, but we can't say this to women, tough love is for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:07 PM
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100% of FDS women could become pickmes tomorrow with zero effort if they wanted to, whereas only 20% of men can ever be the top 20% of men. It's a meaningless comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:38 PM
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China has their citizens by the balls. If the say make babies, they'll ask "how many?" The chinese government does not fuck around, 鬼佬
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:41 AM
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strange it didn't seem to be such a big deal a few decades ago, but now it is? It's been on a long down trend, pre-dating the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:34 AM
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confirmed, NiceGuyNumber4 is a bird
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:05 AM
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How about this: take this article and your claim to /r/askscience and present it to people with a biology background, get laughed out of there for your ignorance, and then never speak of it again or I'll do it for you and then make a post about it on PPD ridiculing the fuck out of you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:59 PM
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You've got to be kidding me. Read the damn section on human dimorphism. Are you trolling right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:32 PM
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Women are better looking than men. This is because, historically and currently men pursued hotter women. This is literally impossible since men and women come from the exact same gene pool. Men pursuing hotter women historically means their offspring look better, whether they're male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:27 PM
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Nope. They lied to you about cops. Cop job is basically to manage people for the city. Managing citizens is what they're actually paid to do. Even though they have the authority to use it for different situations, the gun is mostly there to protect themselves because it's dangerous to do the government's bidding. They're not being paid to risk their lives running into dangerous situations for people they don't know, and believe me they care WAY more being around for their own families than dying…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:01 AM
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This is the hierarchy in my view: God above all creatures then man then horse, then women, then rat, then ants and flies and other small insects
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 06:35 AM
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Both have a moral obligation to call the police for the other, and that's it. Even a woman you love, the MORAL obligation is to call the police. The expectation is that risking your life is proof that you love them -- that's a personal choice not a moral one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:27 AM
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I’ll actually do something with my life instead of wasting it on toxic men. Apparently you think I'm toxic and yet here you are responding to my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:09 AM
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Nah, why sweat it? If I thought women were generally awesome people but just very picky, that would complicate things. Just dealing with occasional horniness and then going back to not giving a fuck about them simplifies things quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 02:02 AM
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Men should start treating women like people instead of walking vaginas that they want to take advantage of If I ever did, I must confess I can hardly bring myself to have basic respect for women anymore. I feel compelled to act respecfully to women, but only to get through the day without too much hassle and not because I actually feel genuine respect for them. The constant demands to be respected certainly don't help. I'm fairly certain the number of men who think like this is only growing year…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 09:51 PM
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you're cucked as hell if you believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:45 PM
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I totally get this attempt to gaslight men into being nice, a world where men finally wake up and stop simping for women would be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:15 PM
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If pretending to be nice is below the bare minimum, then how do people who pretend to be nice end up with partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:19 PM
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It's a rhetorical question. If bitchy women find partners, and assholes find partners, then obviously being nice isn't be the bare minimum to find a partner. Can't believe I've had to explain this to 3 of you already.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 01:57 PM
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so then, is pretending to be nice the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 01:53 PM
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According to 1Here4Bach, being nice is the bare minimum for someone to find a partner. You might have skimmed over that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 06:02 AM
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People keep repeating "being nice is the bare minimum" to get a partner, do you even stop to think about what that would mean? Why do so many men who don't meet the so-called bare minimum of being nice, end up with partners anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:36 AM
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it's like #3 or #4 down in the list tbh tall, good face, charming, but balding? Just buzz it women will still be falling over themselves you. but switch out one (or more) of the above with "short", or "ugly", or "creepy" -- you're now playing hardcore mode regardless of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:39 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:31 PM
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Unintentional meaning that she was suddenly heavily seduced and/or swayed into dumping the old for the new. This just doesn't make sense. If being seduced of swayed can be the criteria for calling a decision "unintentional", then why would it apply only to monkey branching? Why not also other situations where one might be seduced or swayed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:59 PM
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TRP is actually those videos where an unassuming guy asks a girl out, she says no, then he gets in a rented Ferrari and she starts stammering
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 06:24 PM
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It's not enough that it works 99% of the time, it needs to always work
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:01 PM
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I made a post a couple of years back on PPD about a much older lady making flirty comments creeping me out and all I got was women saying it's just "harmless fun" and whatnot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 06:47 AM
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oh no! anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 03:50 AM
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seems like you're trolling, what a pointless discussion this would be if we took it any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 03:05 AM
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oh ok, if you decided you're going to keep blabbering go ahead :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:29 AM
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Are you done?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:15 AM
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"War is necessary because it produces a strict moral code in the war survivors". Is this the gist of your argument? sounds like a WEAK argument to me. Very weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:03 AM
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That comment seems to have struck a nerve with you. good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:54 AM
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Then the woman can bring up wanting to be his GF and let the man decide if she's worth the commitment at that time, or if he thinks it's too early. Or she can not bring it up and get resentful that he isn't a mind reader and end things, in which case nothing of value has was lost
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 09:33 PM
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For men - STILL committing too early or asking for commitment too early in a relationship. One year of knowing someone is not long enough. Women - waiting until the 11th hour of your biological clock before looking for something serious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 08:45 PM
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It's less self critical and more just a lack of self-justifying. A quality I see much more in men is (some) are willing explain their positions and the conditions behind them in a rational, non-appeasing way when questioned. But it doesn't require them to view themselves in a negative light, and it doesn't require others to view them in a positive light. They can be ok with others not seeing eye to eye with them. It's true that men hamster too, some more than others, and all it does if it become…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 05:53 PM
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For me, AWALT refers mostly to hypergamy, solipsism, and hamstering. So a woman who doesn't I didn't think did any of that after talking to her for 5 minutes. Especially the solipsism and hamstering would be unnerving at first, I would wonder if I'm talking to a space alien in a female body
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 07:17 AM
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did you mean "Nice GuyTM "s and your title is a rhetorical question? We all know it's actually this, look at the username she posts stuff like this day after day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:16 PM
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for commitment, or LTRs, sure. Never commit to a woman unless she shows that she won't just jump ship when you're struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:13 PM
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If you mean you've never been promiscuous, definitely a lot more favorable for LTR stuff. Men just need to think the tradeoff is worth it and they'll be marriage minded. If they're not, it's 100% because the tradeoff isn' t worth it to them. Keep in mind there's always 2 sides to a tradeoff -- the things they are giving up, and the thing they are giving said things up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:55 AM
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You're absolutely right, it makes a lot of sense to jump to conclusions based on single example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:49 AM
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bare attractive face is better than makeup on attractive face, but makeup on plain/ugly face is better no makeup on plain/ugly face I get the feeling a lot of women with less good looking faces ask this question, and the answer isn't always honest for them. I hate makeup, I absolutely consider it deceptive but just wear the damn stuff. No makeup is really just for girls who are already attractive without it. No one likes a faker, but if you're at the bottom of the barrel, you might as well be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:35 AM
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Blue pill men are generally spineless, so probably yes even if it's always been his dream to have children. If you really don't want to, it should be a sign that you're not compatible on major life goals and that it's over -- but I just know blue pillers get hard when they hear the word "compromise".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:11 AM
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Why don't I ever see these pleas for sympathy for men's dating issues. Who are these people, are they even on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:57 PM
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This is why I feel that we have moved towards a society who has to ditch this old approach and navigate our romantic lives through those we know. No. https://s3.amazonaws.com/cms.ipressroom.com/175/files/20199/5d937e3f2cfac21d3dde881f_howcouplesmeet2017/howcouplesmeet2017_ee272ae2-856f-45d1-8486-18482fecc6bf-prv.jpg The data suggests that couples meet the most through online dating and bars or restaurant, while meeting through friends has been taking a nosedive the past 30 years. If we're moving…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:29 PM
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The "plenty of women who date men of good character" is a pointless observation if the women are doing it due to other qualities that women are attracted to. It's like saying "plenty of women date men who eat bananas" or "plenty of men date women who wear polka dots". Maybe so, but the bananas don't have shit to do with it, the polka dots don't have shit to do with it, good moral character doesn't have shit to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:18 PM
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The most and best options go to the tall, wealthy, handsome men. The men with the most moral character might do well or might struggle, based on posessing or lacking qualities that women are actually attracted to. No one says women don't date men of good moral character, but most of us know the thing that isn't what attracts women at the end of the day. At best, it's a neutral factor with some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:20 PM
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Just seems silly to decide what is and isn't a problem, for a group of people whose problems you know next to nothing about. Men will make up their own minds about how they relate to hypergamy, we don't need women's input on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:47 AM
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rock band is ok, I think nowadays, shitty soundcloud rap studios might do a bit better. Worth looking into
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:14 AM
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Above average in thinness maybe, but I think you'll find women's Incredibly Low Bar™ isn't met merely by not being ugly and being thin
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:13 AM
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Even the actual wikipedia article that you were referencing proves you wrong. No one's had to go to prison for having sex and then deciding not to be someone's bf afterward. Though, I wouln't be surprised if this was a revenge fantasy for a bunch of you FDS types
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:26 PM
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If more men wanted relationships, maybe they would ask for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:50 PM
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Lol this is the most leading question. Yes OP you're absolutely right -- men can't have fun without women and the possibility for sex. Only women can have a good time by themselves, without men. Nailed it. Hopefully the next topic is more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:42 PM
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yeah, in legal terms not really
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:32 PM
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So basically get sex by lying about wanting a relationship? I mean this is already a strategy for some men, so you're saying men should do more of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:06 PM
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sympathy for men Oh, so just because you're a low value vietnam veteran you think that women owe you free sex? (/s obviously)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:50 PM
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Why do you think women were the ones giving out white feathers? Imagine that. lol being shamed to die or lose your mind in some of the most horrific wars imaginable At least the women of this generation are much better about this sort of thing. When a bill is proposed for women to register for selective service in 2016, they immediately protested to do away with selective service registration altogether because it is "unfair for everyone, men and women". So selfless of them, isn't it? When the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:32 PM
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If you don't have the TRP mindset, I guess MGTOW makes sense. Personally I think the tools TRP offers could help anyone, you just have to be so desperate for a woman's used up vagina that you're willing to go through a multi-year gauntlet of self-improvement misery until you prove yourself worthy of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 06:15 PM
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I'm sure it's a positive for women. Don't men get to decide for themselves whether hypergamy is a negative or a positive for them in their own lives? No one's really telling women not to be hypergamous, we're just observing it as an unpleasant fact of life and comparing notes on how to respond to that. Don't ask me how this is possible, but the TRP that women hate for bringing up this topic somehow agree that women are still worth it anyway. It might make them a little cynical, but imo that's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:51 PM
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Strange coincidence that hypergamy is about female entitlement to men better than them, because they exist. Not at all surprising that you would try to twist it into making about male entitlement though. There's a term for someone who accusing people of behaviors that you engage in yourself -- gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:40 PM
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I don't understand the quesiton. TRP is freely available to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:53 PM
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60% of fathers abandon their child?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:52 PM
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imo, TRP going semi-mainstream has increased the amount of monkeys willing to dance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:17 AM
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I don't know about OP but child abuse is a pretty major fucked up thing that a lot of women do in the west. There was a study in the UK showing that a lot of the physical abuse of infants is done by mothers. I think it was something like 60% of the women interviewed that said they ROUTINELY hit their kids. If I recall correctly, a good number of them also report hitting their kids with objects, particularly the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:43 AM
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tired of these females trying to tell us what words we can and can't use
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:00 AM
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Education, career motivation, domestic skills, family pedigree (yes, I’m a bit snooty), genetics (is her family obese), inquisitive palate, fiscal responsibility, sexual compatibility, cat or dog person. Out of curiosity, how did your previous wife stack up in these areas?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:24 AM
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At the end of the day, I don't think either side can be blamed for what they want. I almost feel bad for both men and women sometimes. Not really, but almost. Maybe if I was an alien watching from afar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:04 AM
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It looks very different. Japanese women seem to want a charismatic entertainer who only cares about her, Japanese men seem to want basically a nurturing mommy. Men don't want to be dancing monkeys for Japanese women, women don't want to be mommies for Japanese men, so they pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:51 PM
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If there's no problem with hypergamy itself, then there should be no problem with guys talking about it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:39 PM
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OPs fascination with traps/sissies/FtM-porn is not unrelated to his obsession with young and virginal. I might need you to spell it out for me. What is the supposed relationship between transexuals and youth / virginity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 04:15 PM
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What does it even have to do with his argument though? What does men going after younger women, which is an observable fact, have to do with a bunch of completely unrelated sexual fetishes this guy has?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 04:01 PM
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I didn't say anything about dominance being a requirement, you're making false assumptions. I do think there's a strong correlation between social dominance and outcomes with women -- absolutely, but again your single (alleged) counterexample doesn't invalidate a strong correlation and it certainly doesn't constitute a whole alternative model of its own. Maybe if you could refer to certain large group of men who tend to be very high social anxiety but very successful with women I'd start coming …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 03:49 PM
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very socially anxious ... way above average success rate with women There's no way to verify but to take your word on it, which is why individual cases don't really mean anything to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 03:35 PM
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as an aside is it at all surprising that the faux pas of discrediting a person based on their comment history suddenly just became fair game because it's a guy who watches porn on his reddit account? Just thought that was funny. The other day there was a post made by a woman, whining that she wants her ex-bf back, her reddit history was showing pictures of her own asshole on certain nsfw subreddits and getting lewd comments -- but not a peep to her about it afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 03:26 PM
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it's just more good old woman good, man bad thinking Women calling you insecure, for doing exactly the same kinds of things they do, aren't trying to help you in anyway. They're just trying to prohibit you. It's really a command to stop doing that, shrouded behind a statement designed to look like concern for your mental well-being. Approval is just for people who are afraid of confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:43 PM
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For me it's just a very useful model that seems to magically clear up a lot of questions. So I'll just go ahead and keep using it until a more useful model comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:39 AM
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No, it's across the board. For example -- in a marriage, alphas never ever allow themselves to get henpecked by their wives. That's 100% a beta male negative outcome. Dead bedrooms where the male fails to elicit tingles for sexytimes, also 100% beta male negative outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:04 AM
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alpha = many positive outcomes with women beta = few positive outcomes It's not even a debate, there's a clear group of men who have a lot of positive outcomes and a clear group of guys that has very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 03:17 AM
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but then says he wants a girl that is a virgin who isn't experienced with men will cook, clean the house raise the kids that isn't really typical of mgtow though women being promiscuous, not cleaning, not cooking and so on are reasons provided (among many others) to not MARRY a woman. That isn't necessarily the only possible role. Maybe you could just be a FWB with her or something less serious -- and that's where the observations that women have unrealistically high standards for those kinds of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 09:28 PM
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it's just woman good, man bad thinking I don't think it happened overnight, the reason is probably a snowball effect that started decades ago with cultural shifts. One could probably argue that men were just as bad for centuries, the pendulum has just swung the other way and if women are no better in this regard why should we be surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 04:23 PM
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You just don't get TRP mindset. RP guys have a mindset that A. the game is winnable and B. they have the tools to win it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:05 AM
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Great
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:49 PM
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Annoying, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:29 PM
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Because you said "that's just a testosterone thing" as if it didn't have a significant effect on women also. Your not thinking about sex "all that much" isn't necessarily representative of anything except you, which isn't interesting as a single data point with no point of reference. Some girls do get horny during puberty, and to my point it's something that contributes to them developing crushes on guys. In the end a crush is a euphemism for sexual attraction. (And while it wasn't the point I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:15 PM
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Where did I say there were "as horny as guys"? Maybe you could stop putting words in my mouth. And as I said before my point wasn't about actually having sex as much as becoming becoming attracted to another person. I could see why you'd want to make it about that and just wave it off as men just being horny dogs incapable of actual thought. It's a pretty standard tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:01 PM
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That's def a testosterone thing lol. Testosterone production in women increases significantly during puberty. Your individual experience notwithstanding, some high school girls get really horny during this time in spite of the unpleasant side effects you describe. I'm not really talking so much about the sex though. I'm mostly just talking about girls crushing on a guy and wanting to be around him was just a sincere expression of interest in his inherent qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:55 PM
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I'm fine with just reflecting on it with complete honesty. You're welcome to judge all you want, it isn't going to change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:28 PM
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I'm just talking about the sincerity of it, and the insincerity I perceive from older women and their interest in the men they "settle down" with comes into question. For me it's a huge deal. Back then whether these hoes wanted you or didn't, you knew it was sincere. I can't be cynical about love between teenagers (naive as they may be) the way I am undeniably cynical about a 30 year old woman looking for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:24 PM
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As I said, I could apply my own set of pejorative labels to the alternatives, but why bother? You have the right to live according to your own idea of love, and if you disapprove of mine it really means nothing to me. They're just words, they're not the experience of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:20 PM
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As a man, high school could be considered the only time where it seems that your relationship depends the least on your utility and more on just hormone fueled attraction. There's just a sense of undeniable sincerity when a 15 year old girl is crushing on your 15 year old self, and that undeniable sincerity becomes way more questionable as women get older and their idea of "love" often involves meeting certain life priorities and milestones. Call it cringe, call it immature, but looking at the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:10 PM
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Also includes emotional care, but primarily financial come on, don't start backpedalling now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:21 PM
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That's not an answer to the question. I didn't ask you what it means, I asked you why there's a need to soften it in the first place and you clearly don't want to answer that. Basically if the father were to say "I want you to find a man who will pay for your financial expenses" it will honestly reveal women's role in a man's life as, primarily, a financial liability. Women who are upfront about this learn very quickly that men, for the most part, aren't interested in footing another person's bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:02 PM
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Obviously I know what it means. The point of the euphemistic language is to soften the meaning -- do you know why the fuck people feel the need to soften it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:25 PM
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How does that explain Patrice Oneal and Bill Burr? They couldn't avoid being called mysoninistic, and they were making their observations with, arguably, world class humor that maybe 0.1% of the population has. Your example about fathers and their daughters "taken care of", that's a clear example of using euphemistic language to dance around the reality of finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:18 PM
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women wanting successful men Wanting men significantly more successful than themselves (and often their girlfriends men too, and often, other men in general). And let's be honest, by "successful" we mostly mean wealthy. Successful = "has lots of money". It's in the undercurrent of the media sometimes, but you're taking a massive social risk in pointing out out and making it a topic of discussion. And God help you if you dare say anything that isn't approving about it. As soon as you start delvin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:50 PM
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Men prefer video games and watch cartoons than to hang out with my boring ass? Peter Pan syndrome. Men reluctant to start a family with me when they discover I'm whore? Must be Madonna-whore complex. Men are repeatedly using me for nothing more than sex? They're just narcissistic fuckboys. Men aren't even sticking around to fuck before they ghost me? Yep, definitely avoidant personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:04 AM
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Regardless, this type guy is probably doing very little of the dating in the overall scheme of things. Meaning it's probably not "very common" at all like the OP thinks. For the majority of cases, the men that bail on them is probably because they lost interest, and I'd imagine this is doubly true for guys they select from online dating given the dynamics that happen on there. But hey, whatever helps OP and other women on PPD sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:19 AM
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But I almost never see is stories about Avoidants, which I think is pretty common. How would an avoidant man normally go about setting up a first date with a woman in the first place? given that men have to handle practically all the logistics early on in a relationship, I can't see how an avoidant man would even get that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:00 AM
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Do you have anything worth saying that's actually relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:29 PM
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why do you think Danny DeVito has so many female admirers? He wears makeup on set. Without the makeup he would just be another short, bald guy. But paying attention to the little details make a world of difference
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:25 PM
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If you have two chromosomes you're definitely missing a few Maybe that's why that sub was created
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:45 PM
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You can be chubby and short but makeup will increase any guy's looks by 1-2 points. Wouldn't hurt to find a nice wig and a cute skirt while you're at it Just try it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:40 PM
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Just wear makeup, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:20 PM
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Ok you're just agruing for the sake of it now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:04 PM
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Morally, yes. We "ask" certain people to risk their LIVES on the job, daily. Well we don't really ask, we assume they will because it's that much expected of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:50 PM
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We're talking about morality though, not legality. And you're walking straight into the point I made about attaching the moral judgment to the consequences of refusing rather than the request itself. Coercing someone by threat of exercising power might be immoral (btw the US government constantly does this to its citizens), but it would be very difficult to argue that this is happening to Hollywood actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:43 PM
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Strangely enough it seems like RP guys look the most disappointed when they cant get laid they look the most disappointed compared to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:31 PM
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naive mothers, teachers, blue pilled men spread a naive mindset that benefits society and makes women look good, at the expense of the interests of the male child in the future. so nothing new there they're not mutually exclusive. It's possible contribute to society and also be able to get pussy when you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:27 PM
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Body image issues are not that common in men though, even if they're on the rise. It's kind of like how in 2018 women rallied men to join them in ending selective service registration "for everyone" as soon as a bill extending it to women was proposed. Now that the bill has been dropped, nothing but crickets from teh women -- men are still required to register and women are, mysteriously, no longer so passionate about the issue anymore. I really wonder how much women would pretend to care about …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:26 AM
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immoral if I seriously requested that you put out a lit cigarette in your eyeball I mean it might seem a bit rude, but merely asking is immoral? I don't see the reasoning. We're getting into philosophical territory but I don't see how any request that can be refused at will could be considered immoral, unless you're attaching the moral judgment to the CONSEQUENCES of the refusal from a person who has power over another, rather than the request itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:19 AM
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No, that's an infringement on the other person's rights. Everyone has the right to make any request, and everyone has the right to refuse any request. The reason there are no consequences for the person asking is that it's entirely voluntary and both parties are equally informed. If the actor feels compelled to risk his life for it, it's a result of them making the decision that the money / the role is worth the risk for them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:33 AM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:06 AM
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If risking your health isn't worth it, you can decline. Not sure what the big deal is. For the men with the eating disorders on the rise, that's what vanity and low self esteem gets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:25 AM
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They're not liars in the conventional sense though. They're liars who constantly build plausible deniability while they lie, a lot like politicians do. It's a specialized, highly skilled type of lying, one that you only tend to get from highly socialized people. You might think funny because I didn't just come out and say "women are liars" directly -- if that's the reason it's a pretty dumb one honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:49 AM
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Using this logic, how is a dildo not the imitation of a man's dismembered penis 🥺 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:22 PM
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It's not one or the other. Men are really not as completely autistic as everyone acts. If you hear enough of politicians talk, eventually you know when they're bullshitting, deflecting, when they're embellishing etc and it's always done with nuanced language. The communication styles of politicians and women are actually pretty similar in a lot of ways. Think about WHEN women use nuanced language, and WHEN they use literal language. It tells you a lot about what it's used for and why they rely o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:24 PM
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No one in society really cares about conditioning male children to attain power in the SMP and avoiding what they don't want (being a beta, being a sex starved simp). Society and in particular naive mothers, teachers, blue pilled men spread a naive mindset that benefits society and makes women look good, at the expense of the interests of the male child in the future. I think it's pretty easy to feel lied to by BP outlook but it's even easier to get over it and adapt your strategy with RP / what…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:53 PM
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You will never get reliable data on this for men or women. Both lie significantly on this, and it's all self-reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:59 PM
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....riiiight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:53 PM
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I never fuck with men; I treat them with polite indifference. I meant "interact with" as in whatever you meant when you said "I never fuck with men"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:44 PM
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Harassing, molesting and assaulting is not a harmless singular pinch on the butt. You used these words for a reason, they carry a certain gravity to them, they are sexual crimes and now you're downplaying it. If you were actually harrassed and assaulted, stick to that, don't even bring up "a singular grope". It completely diminishes your claims and makes you look foolish. Either way, to soften up a bit here - at least you have escaped it. You don't interact with men (except presumably your LTR) …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:29 PM
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Nevertheless, strange and known men have deemed it appropriate to harass, molest and assault me for just minding my own business so you actually meant 20+ years ago men deemed it appropriate do do these things and you did nothing because, supposedly, times were different back then and it was everyone else's fault? And you're bringing it up now because it's stayed with you and if we didn't inquire we might as well assume it happened just the other day. I don't know how the phrase victimhood menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:19 PM
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If it t affected you this much, why did you choose not to press criminal charges on them the day it happened? You decided to carry on with life after you thought you had been assaulted, just to bring it up years later to a bucnh of internet strangers who have no way of verifying your story or enforcing anything? "Just trust me bro" is an internet meme for a reason. I was once dating a girl who told me she had been raped by a guy at her airbnb but she decided to do nothing about it, I've never sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:01 PM
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Nevertheless, strange and known men have deemed it appropriate to harass, molest and assault me for just minding my own business The most likely truth is that no one's really harrassing, molesing and assaulting you, but you just like pretending that you are. Am I wrong? Worth repeating that thinking it's inescapable is VICTIMHOOD MENTALITY.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:52 PM
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Some men just stop seeking out women and the problem solves itself rather quickly. For the women who think men make their life suck, stop putting your hand on the stove. It really is that simple. Thinking that it's inescapable is victimhood mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:25 PM
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Well you sure whine a hell of a lot about problems that you don't 'even have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:19 PM
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If you have bland thoughts and stupid opinions, if your feelings are consistently reactive and self-centered, then what do you expect? (using the general "you" here) Many men are the same way. We just get called boring and ignored. The female flip-side to that is becoming little more than a cum receptacle for the men they're attracted to. The men who are successful learn to evoke target emotions in others, they have thought provoking insights. No one is going to love you just for having a lump o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:07 PM
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Men like sex. They’re not so fond of the human brain that comes with the sex true for most women, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:53 PM
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Override is much too much of an overstatement. If a woman actually thinks you're ugly, the most your personality can really do is compensate for that, partially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:19 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:37 PM
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yeah who the f is lusting after the "lifestyle" lol. Put git tiddies on anything and men will lust after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:44 PM
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The majority of women might be more careful, but also the majority of women don't end up single mothers. I don't have a problem with the majority of women on this issue. On the other hand, the majority of single mothers are much worse than just careless imo. No, you are not going to change my mind on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:11 AM
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how many single mothers are widows? Come on now. You know who I'm talking about, stop playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:26 AM
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I'm not going to stand up for the deadbeat father lol. They're both pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:23 AM
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So you think calling them socialists is going to shame them into silence? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:18 PM
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>the men who fit some or if not all of my description is who I'm talking about. So you're narrowing it down to a set of men who fits your description, and then you're asking whether those men do in fact fit your description. Why even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:29 PM
1

Doesn't this automatically water down your argument though? In covering all the bases, you provided an example of men who are affected by the unfairness of the dating world who can't really be considered relationship socialists. Are you just choosing to ignore that for the sake of argument or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:55 PM
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Loyal muff monarchist here. For King and Cuntry
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:51 PM
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Want to just remove themselves from dating completely or 2. Want women to "lower their standards" or become "more realistic" so that more men can have a chance to obtain sexual success (sounds like redistribution of sex) Maybe those in group 2. I don't see how you could consider the men in group 1 "relationship socialists".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:50 PM
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You mean older people who contributed to the tax system for most of their lives? Who you supposedly know is not my concern. I'm only interested in the overall picture, and giving you the reasons (which you asked for) as to why some people look down heavily on single mothers. Take it or leave it, keep blaming the man she chose as a father, whatever. I will say that given the excuses you've listed for them, none of them are even slightly beginning to change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:38 PM
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On a societal level they are parasites on the tax-paying public. They contribute the least and, they take the most. As if that isn't enough, the single mother plan seems to be shit out some kids and then everyone are forced to help you because if you don't, innocent children are going to suffer. They maniplate people with guilt, and it works great for them. But it's not something I can ever respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:30 AM
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They parasitize the people around them, and "helping" them often often results in them making make more reckless decisions. They're a lot like hard drug addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:23 AM
2

Does the Amber Heard story prove that men will I don't get how (mostly) women here will think that a generalization can be disproven just with their personal experience (or that of friends) but will also think that a generalization can be PROVEN with just one single example how a person's brain can work like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:39 PM
4

I'm basically awesome and a Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:09 PM
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The clap emoji between words is pretty much a marker of basic bitch imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:59 PM
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World 👏 wide 👏. I find it amusing that some feminists write like this but expect their ideas to be taken seriously. Not by me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:02 PM
2

mazel tov!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:49 PM
1

This is such a moronic question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:48 PM
3

you're ruining my apocalyptic fantasies with a boring dystopia sexbots now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 12:28 AM
2

you are the babylon bee of satire
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:52 PM
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I'm willing to bet you money that you're wrong. You can't touch artificial intelligence companions. Men will want to touch their companion's boobies. How many men do you think have asked Alexa what she looks like? Once Google or Amazon start humanizing their assistants, there will be a cash inflow to R&D which will eclipse the current inflow, which they will use to create more lifelike robotics like a feed forward loop. And then it's over for humanity. I don't get why it's so bad, why shouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:22 PM
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Men are actually doing great on this one. If men really had such a strong preference, porn consumption would be nothing but hourglass figures. Which it really isn't, men can be visually aroused kinds of odd shapes as long as they aren't morbidly obese (even that has a niche, disgustingly enough). For women it's basically a combination of tall AND (something). Tall AND skinny, tall AND muscular, tall AND burly and so on. Usually men shorter than 5'10 (maybe 5'9 if we're being generous) may at bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:07 AM
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jfc I do not have the patience for this tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:43 AM
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For the second time, "tall man" does not refer to the height of the man compared to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:37 AM
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Your comment that men are taller on average than women is pointless then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:35 AM
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Come on now, you know a man being tall typically refers to a his height compared to other men. Nobody looks at a 5'4 guy and calls him tall, not even a 5' woman, unless out of mockery
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:29 AM
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They're mathematically wrong, which is the worst kind of wrong you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:21 AM
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either way, it still means you have a libido, which was the topic of the conversation we were having.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 08:52 PM
3

ok, I'll take your word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:31 PM
2

Why not just have sex when you're bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:05 PM
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No sex, does that also mean not even the urge to fap for months at a time? sounds nice to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:57 PM
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No you just can't read. The reason is that the general public contributes to the economy right now, so they are the priority for free healthcare. Everyone, not just pregnant women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:22 PM
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No, it's not a valid argument, taxpayers contribute to the economy right now and even they don't get free healthcare in the US. If free healthcare is based on contributing to the economy, then they should be first in line. Again, what makes pregnant women that much more important than everyone else who needs medical care that we all need to cover just THEIR expenses. Oh I forgot: they're women so they're more entitled to free services above everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:13 PM
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>I think the US should rethink their healthcare system as a whole, not just for pregnant women. fair enough, it sounds like we both agree it's not really an issue about pregnant women in particular I agree that the country needs to avoid an aging population or it's going to have major problems, but I can't see how legislation can spur enough of a baby boom. Mass immigration, artificial wombs or WWIII would be my guess
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:54 PM
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That's not a valid argument. People with health problems could also add to the economy if they got free healthcare and bonus: right now not 18 years into the future, So again, what makes pregnant women that much more important than everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:40 PM
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oh, so "giving birth should be free" actually means "the public should be taxed more to provide free medical care for pregnant women" which gets to my second question: the public also has their own health problems that they are suffering and dying from. How is it reasonable to collect tax money from the public who isn't getting free healthcare (assuming the US), to provide free medical care for pregnant women? Are they really that much more important than everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:05 PM
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What does that really mean though Are you actually saying healthcare should be free for everyone, or just giving birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 04:58 PM
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It is free, obviously you mean giving birth at a hospital with trained medical care should be free, the question is how?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 04:15 PM
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facebook doesn't decide to include you in any of those groups. Facebook categorizes you as a member of those groups first based on data you give them. Just because you get ads for these things doesn't mean FB included you in any of those groups. I think you mentioned you work in advertising, right? How is it possible that you have such a poor grasp of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:31 PM
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Whatever the individual advertisers and marketing teams do with the data is irrelevant. Facebook collects the data and puts it into FBAM. You are wasting both of our time talking about what advertisers do with the data that fb provides. The conslusions advertisers draw from the data isn't accurate, the data itself is really damn accurate because of the huge volume. Meaning that if you can gather data on 1 million people in a demographic, it will accurately describe 10 million in that same demogr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:18 PM
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Yes but you used this logic to say that those are the only people who consume that product. My actual words were "most of it is probably middle aged women". And of course a 10% higher hit rate means it pays more to market to that demographic, because they're more likely to buy. In particular they know how much (on average) each demographic spends on certain products. None of this is news to me. I can't see how the second point about advertisers not doing their proper research is even relevant he…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:07 AM
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there's a reason these demographics bring you the most bang for your buck -- they indicate who is the most likely to buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 10:44 AM
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facebook ad network is a lot bigger than the facebook.com website daily users
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 10:38 AM
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Would it be able to adapt its AI to make me like it? For certain people (me) I think that's probably one thing robots might be able to do better than other humans. If bots could do this and turn it into a feedback loop people would become irrationally attached to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 06:03 AM
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Here are some marketing figures of romance novels readers for you: 87% are women, 72% are married engaged or in a relationship, the 35+ age group makes up 61%. It's an audience of ~15M people total in the US Pulled the data from Facebook Ads Manager. So really most of it is bored middle aged women Ugly fat loner girls can still get decent dick if they want to believe it or not. How many on them do you see on PPD complaining that they can't get any?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 05:54 AM
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All sorts of women read them, from virginal young teens who curious about sex, to middle aged bored housewives who will never again have a first kiss, to old widows Here are some marketing figures of romance novels readers for you: 87% are women, 72% are married engaged or in a relationship, the 35+ age group makes up 61%. It's an audience of ~15M people total in the US Pulled the data from Facebook Ads Manager. So really most of it is probably bored middle aged women in some kind of a commited …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 05:27 AM
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It's much easier for a man to be single at any age than a woman. Having said that, if the idea that 35 year old women are damaged goods makes sense to you, then why not extend that to 35 year old men also? You might be wrong more often, but what matters is its practical usefulness. For what it's worth I've never been married but I can guarantee you I have a way less positive opinion on women at 30 than I did at 20, I could totally see how people might call that baggage. People don't seem to unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:54 PM
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That list came across to me as little more than an "if I were king" scenario. For all their central planning, I doubt even the People's Republic of China could manage to accomplish half of the points even if their sights were absolutely set on it. I was asking what set of compromises could an individual reasonably make that would reliably lead to a more satisfactory outcome, and I think the answer is really: not many, if any at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:17 PM
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the guys seem o be getting passed up for other guys before anything even happens, the women seem to be getting ghosted by the guys they do choose How is this not the most straightforward example of blackpill possible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:35 AM
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The only real solution here is to compromise. We have to humble ourselves and accept that there's a lot we don't know. This isn't some kumbaya shit It really is kumbaya shit until you can at least point out WHICH compromises people could reasonably make but aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:24 AM
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I was very naive growing up in an ultra-leftist city, it was a given that men have no say in a woman's decision to have casual sex, period. I still agree with that. In my 20s I found that if you even dare assert why you won't commit to such women, people will try to silence you. The truth is if women have no obligation to men, men have no obligation to women either, and many seem to hate that kind of fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 11:21 PM
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this sounds like a completely different topic, maybe worth its own post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 11:13 PM
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What a dumb comment. Almost everyone tries, especially in school when these questions of social hierarchy are beginning to sort themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:48 AM
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all of the examples you mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:37 AM
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If I could just trade the benefits and without switching the gender, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Even assuming the downsides are every bit as bad as women say. It's a done deal imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 11:24 PM
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I'm usually on Team Man, but I'm starting to see how a lot of men act exactly like all these dumb whores complaining about men's attitudes towards promiscuous women. It's like the dumb male side of the coin. You can't have it both ways. Women reserve the right to consider you attractive pussyslayer or boring guy she settled for, just like men have the right to consider a woman just another depraved whore or future mother of his children. If you want to be considered a sexually attractive pussy s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:12 PM
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To be clear, there is actually very little moralizing of female sexuality. Moralization would require a train of thought along the lines of women morally being in the wrong, and therefore are morally obligated to stop. I just don't see any of that. Feel free to provide an example, because the example you provided is not a moralizing one at all And it's impossible for me to figure out what you're referring to by "pathologizing". Just sounds like you're presenting a conclusion as a premise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:12 PM
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what are your thoughts on bizarre insertions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:46 AM
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You're planning to make a milestone purchase, live under the same roof and have children with this woman. When that happens, it might not feel like it but the legal system will already be a part of your arrangement. By that point signing a marriage document would be a symbolic gesture more than anything. At least involving lawyers early you could get something roughly equivalent to a prenup, where both of your interests are protected ahead of time, but I figured you might have already considered…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:32 PM
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we've agreed to kids when we buy a house, which is something we both want. Getting married is not something we really care about Well it's not as bad as marriage but...ah I'm sure you're a smart guy, I'll leave it up to you to navigate this properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:34 PM
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He didn't say there should be a stigma around children of divorced parents. He said divorced parents i.e divorced dads and moms. OP, divorced parents already come with a lot of drawbacks (baggage, kids, poor decision making) that people are already aware of, and makes them mostly suitable for other divorced parents. Of course, a lot of guys will be so desperate that they will overlook this, no amount of sgitma will change that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:31 PM
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I've been able to have fun, talk, have sex and more to a much higher degree than I would have as single. If I'm down she'll support me and reverse. Many times she's stepped up to listen to my problems Every single one of those things you can get outside of a committed relationship without much trouble. But don't get me wrong, a girlfriend sounds like a perfect level of commitment to reward. Too bad most women tend start pushing for more after a few years. They know bf/gf are not that much of a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:39 AM
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Why are you assuming that every unsuccessful marriage necessarily ends in divorce, and that the remaining 65% are automatically successful by default? Couples staying together out of financial practicality, separations without legal divorce, people who hide their unsuccessful marriage to keep appearances, or remain together from fear of being alone, or out of complacency, and so on. Either these are all successes as well, or you actually believe they're so rare that they're not worth mentioning.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:28 AM
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What could a man need that can only be done through getting into a commited relationship? The men who fail to answer this question correctly are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:37 AM
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Yeah, in *successful* marriages Hence, not all of the married men are inferior. But most of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:26 AM
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oh dang I guess I did The offer still stands if you change your mind. I pay very generously
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:22 AM
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I'll second that notion. Most men who commit to a woman are inferior in my view. Not every single one, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:16 AM
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lmao this is why you don't drop out of high school, kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:52 AM
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If I say I'll pay someone $10 to eat some dog poop and they say "ok" and they do it. I didn't just "make" them do it. That was their decision. They could have just said no. I don't know how much simpler this can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:47 AM
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Abuse removes consent. Again, your words. Do you have brain damage or something? If you reply, make the plans to meet, follow through with those plans, meet the person, willingly walk into a room with them, and receive what you agreed to receive, how is it non-consensual? You really think all of her voluntary choices are null-and-void when she discovers she doesn't enjoy eating turds from a camel's ass after all? lol Women really do act like they had no agency when they receive the consequences …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:36 AM
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No one is “okay with being abused”. Abuse removes consent. The literal definition of non-consent. reminder that you said this, since you clearly have the attention span of an ostrich suffering from dementia you seem to think "non-consensual" means agreeing to do it and then voluntarily taking every step necessary to make sure it happens to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:21 AM
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The option is always there for her to delete the DM and block the guy the choice she made to instead follow through with it knowing exactly what was going to happen, is just that: A CHOICE SHE MADE
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:09 AM
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I mean there's an IG model out there who will willingly get on a plane and fly out to Dubai to eat poop from a camel's ass for a wealthy Arab sheik. Are you telling me it's non-consensual? It's not like anyone's holding a gun to her head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:03 AM
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married a woman who is 5 years older gross, I almost feel bad for the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:31 PM
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I just didn't care for the format. imo RP concepts are better learned in discussion with several guys bringing up their own backgrounds and experiences, rather than just one guy who establishes himself as an expert. Apparently Rollo has been married for 20 years, so while it seems a bit harsh to call him sad old man who lacks intelligence and insight, you might not be too far off the mark after all!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:20 PM
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Their conversion rates on their promos and ads are much less than 5%, even targeting RPers. Get yourself a google ads account and check out their ad metrics Obviously there's a scummy marketing element to it, but to say that the red pill is just the marketing side is just a joke. Most of the content is created by regular users for free on youtube and reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:45 PM
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No, not now. They always were selling courses even back then. I will say it again: MOST of the redpill is guys comparing notes without money exchanged between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:39 PM
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Never heard of any of them except rollo, and even then I've never cared much for his content, even though it's offered for free on his website. I also watched a few RSD Tyler videos that were super entertaining, again all for free on youtube. Most of the red pill is guys comparing notes without any money exchanged between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:31 PM
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I edit all my comments. Are you sure you're not thinking "well not really me, but surely SOMEONE will"? You, personally, find those 6 guys visually appealing to you right? I can't dispute it, I'm not going to accuse you of gaslighting, but it requires some serious suspension of disbelief from me. (edited this comment too btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:11 PM
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Well, trust me they do or did. Even the groom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:04 PM
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Yeah I edited my comment. Let me put it this way, of those 6 guys you picked, how surprised would you be if every single one of them reported having issues getting a date? These are just average looking guys. If women found average looking guys attractive, getting a date would not be such a struggle for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:54 PM
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You find 6 of the men in the first photo attractive...right. Tell me which 6
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:43 PM
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TRP is supposed to be for men only. Don't go around redpilling women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:41 PM
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http://www.noiva.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/portadagroomsmen.jpeg https://secure.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/a/6/9/1/highres_484902641.jpeg https://amazon8s.s3.amazonaws.com/venues/238741/3fe9871155c00edcc25c92c92bb54cfd.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:32 PM
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Yeah just like Trump wasn't lying but "trying to stay positive" about COVID funny how liars just copy each other's tricks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:15 PM
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Nobody counts it, and it's still not that hard for anyone to estimate. Attractive people are ridiculously easy to notice, it's not like you're trying to answer how many Wyoming license plates you see on a night out. And I notice enough attractive men on the streets This is the question you're dodging. "I notice enough" lol you're on an online discussion board I promise you no one's going to chokeslam you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:58 PM
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Setting people up for false expectations is neither polite nor kind. This is simple excuse making for being cowardly. One more good reason not to be friends with women -- they're too cowardly to make good friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:32 PM
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this has to be one of the biggest cop-outs to a simple question I've ever seen on PPD and that's saying a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:50 PM
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Not at all, but OP should at least briefly show he understands the concept before jumping to the conclusion that it's wrong. Which I think he did anyway although it was in the comments section.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:18 AM
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MGTOW is not gaining traction. It was growing like wildfire for a few years but as soon as they noticed that, places like the SPLC started pressuring platforms shut it down. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=mgtow A few lucky men were saved, but from now on MGTOW is on the decline and simps are on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:57 AM
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First off, you never even say what you think the 80/20 refers to. When others talkk about the 80/20 rule, what is it that supposedly has this 80/20 split according to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:56 PM
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When asked why men and women deserve different sentencings for the same crime, you tried to argue tha it's becauset men have a biological makeup that makes them more violent than women and are more likely to reoffend. This was your justification for why women should receive lighter sentences for the same crime. Fair enough. I then gave you a chance to identify which biological factor/factors makes men more violent. You said testosterone. You also said this, quoted verbatim: PoC don't have a biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:40 PM
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Then consider that you might have swung so far in the opposite direction and your views might be much less moderate and nuanced than you think. I don't really have much else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:44 PM
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The difference between a racist bigot and a racist AND sexist bigot is that the latter is even worse. It isn't typical for a men to oppress women. It isn't typical of white people to oppress black people. Even if some bankers are Jewish, most jews are NOT bankers extorting the poor and antisemitism is wrong. You're living a delusion that enables you feel like a big hero for having bigoted views. Don't blame me, blame your shitty educational system for brainwashing you and calling it "critical th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:33 PM
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But you can't expect women to fight for longer sentences for women. No one said that. It's 100% on the judges. I'm just saying it makes sense that a judge would take the likelihood of reoffence (and the impact of incarceration on children) into their sentencing Black people are more likely to reoffend than white people. So then, go ahead and say that it makes sense for a judge to take into account the likelihood of reoffense into giving them a harsher punishment because a person is black. Go ahe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:20 PM
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On average, yes we are. And for committing THE SAME violent crime, a healthy justice system gives a sentencing commensurate to THE CRIME ITSELF not commensurate to their religion, race, sexual orientation, hormone profile or SEX to which the person belongs. It is really not that hard a concept to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:40 PM
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Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. Both these differences were statistically significant. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3455741/ So is it justified to give white men lighter sentences than black men for the same crime, given that the difference in testosterone between them is considered to be statistically significant? If not, then why would it be ok to use the same criteria of "testosterone" to give women lighter se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:18 PM
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What biological factors would you say makes men more violent than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:28 PM
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A fully tournament human species is unsustainable without artificial instititutional support that forcefully redistributes resources to the women. If Alpha chads were impregnating different women year-round, how on earth would they be able to provide for all of them? How would the women and children survive when they're pregnant and less able to gather the resources on her own while and the alpha is off fucking another girl? It HAS TO be done on the backs of betas and that's a major wrench in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:49 AM
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The more the better. Many men are still in denial. Nice chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:32 AM
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Nailed it. It's just AF/BB something that TRP has been saying for ages now, I think it's great that women are coming clean about it, at least on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:29 AM
1

That's not merely a semantic distinction. Don't you remember your response to Mayhem777 said about female's dating strategy? It's not just "evolution wants women fucking alpha males". It's "evolution wants women fucking alpha males and getting beta males to raise them". If you leave silly comments, someone's going to bust your balls eventually. Don't take it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:20 AM
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If evolution wants a mixture of both i.e dual mating strategy, then the stand-alone claim that "evolution wants women fucking alpha males" is about as (in)valid as the stand-alone claim that "evolution wants women fucking beta males". Neither one of those is correct as stand-alone claims. It wants both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:12 AM
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Evolution wants women fucking alpha males. It also wants them fucking beta males who treat them right SHE DID IT! Someone get this bitch a Nobel Prize, what a monumental breakthrough. bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:05 AM
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Elephant seals are entirely a tournament species because they evolved to mate with alpha males. If evolution wanted human women fucking alpha males, humans would be entirely a tournament species too. But now you're saying we are only partially a tournament species. Here you are, 10 comments later still showing everyone how slow you are to grasp this simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:56 AM
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Humans are not a tournament species, we didn't evolve into a tournament species. Your claim is factually wrong and uninformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:46 AM
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Yeah it's ONE strategy. Not THE strategy. So again, you decided to drop your original claim and now you're watering it down because your ignorance was exposed, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:36 AM
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So you decided to stop defending your original claim that evolution wants human women fucking alpha males and you're pivoting to a different claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:33 AM
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If that were true, humans would be an actual tournament species and all women would be part of harems. tl;dr your country's public education system failed you and now here you are letting us all know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:29 AM
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Are you talking about fucking alpha males? Cuz that's exactly what evolution wants them doing yeah but we're talking about humans, not elephant seals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:52 AM
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My interest in LTRing millenial women is practically zero. I've had a couple of friends try to set me up with totally ok, decent millenial women, I can't bring myself to even want to be around them or meet them. I know I'd eat my words if she was absolutely gorgeous or unusually charming, but where the interest was once there it's just not there anymore. Don't underestimate how much of an asset youth is for relationships. It's not just a physical attractiveness thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:56 AM
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Nowadays, only zoomer women in their 20s would be worth any effort. I'd rather play video games and watch porn than waste my time in an LTR with a millenial, tbh I don't care how modest they claim to have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:14 AM
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hopefully it would lead to tenfold increase in slut shaming lol that would be hilliarious
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 07:32 AM
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It's even worse than that, a bunch of your "superior" average women are into shit like love horoscopes and tarot, how that for woo woo? Viewership in the millions made up almost entirely of women lol. There's a reason women are and always will be the meme gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 07:02 AM
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"take issue" doesn't necessarily mean rejecting them. I'm sure there's plenty of women who take issue with TRP who barely even get asked out by guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:43 AM
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I was rebutting your claim that the women on the same level as TRP men are the ones rejecting them. I never made that claim, you failed to read properly. I have no interest in your personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:39 AM
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Great. Took ya long enough :P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:34 AM
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Ok then. Not all shitty women date TRP men. So as I was saying, TRP and the women who take issue with TRP are on the same level for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:30 AM
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Do you actually think the only criteria for a shitty woman is "falls for TRP" that there's no shitty women outside of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:19 AM
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Fine then, TRP is about how shitty men relate to shitty women then. Point being that TRP and the women who take issue with TRP are on the same level for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:07 AM
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TRP is a story about average men and women and how they relate to each other, not high quality. "Average men are shitty and need to improve" is the one message that BP, women, RP, and pretty much everyone tends to agree on. So it's on men to improve, this message gets all the head nods. But where TRP warns men about the truth of average women's sexual strategies, that's where the screeching and justifications begin. The attractive guys are not settling for their average ass, so often end up bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:23 AM
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3 months is really not that long to wait as long as she's turning 18 on July 1st, the 30+ year old millenial women trying to push for this can go suck a donkey dick as far as I'm concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:57 PM
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Yea, I call bs. Name ONE. Just name one single user here who has said he is looking for a homemaker but can't find one. Surely of the many men it shouldn't take too long, right? Anyone else here is welcome to chime in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:16 PM
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build love slowly Sounds like a scam
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:35 PM
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I didn't make any of this personal to you. I you are taking it personally, not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:19 PM
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yes, AND they try to abandon it that's the important part. If hypergamy is a male-imposed social conditioning, women are doing absolutely everything to embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:12 PM
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Imagine how pathetic it would be to witness a man try to shift accountability for their actions onto their mothers and how they brought them up, and then doing nothing to change it. At least men tend to idealize abandoning faulty female conditioning rather than using it as something to hide behind like a little bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:06 PM
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What is there to explain? people are responsible for their own behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:28 PM
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women are entirely responsible for their own hypergamous behavior, no one else. It's not like we're living in some Arab country where marriages are arranged by the family, attributing hypergamy to the father is just world class mental gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:24 PM
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Can’t you think on your feet? Hit a curveball? why would anyone even bother with a woman who thinks of a relationship like they're trying to strike out an opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:21 AM
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Do you think it's right to punish low-income minorities more harshly, if the statistics support it? If statistics can justify unfairly lenient sentences for women, why shouldn't they also justify unfairly lenient sentences for rich white people over someone else who commited the same crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:51 PM
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Agreed, it's men's fault for not building a support system composed of court judges to get more lenient sentencings for criminal offenses!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:50 PM
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but love drinking or going on hikes and you just bring the girl you’re into along for the ride There's still social contracts required for this. The man approaching and inviting is proposing a social contract; the man risks his ego and pride for the purpose of a future relationship, and if the woman agrees she is expected to show up or at least provide a reason for bailing on him (sometimes not even that). There's no getting around it, most informal agreements can be seen as social contracts. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:57 AM
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I already do this and it works great for me, but only because I'm pretty much MGTOW already so I'm fine doing only what I want and doing none of what I don't want. I can't see a most guys getting too far with by never doing things he'd rather not do. "don't expect anything in return" would really just mean "don't expect to ever get laid, ever again". If guys didn't need to jump through hoops to get laid, they wouldn't. They would just call up a girl and do a porn scene together when she arrives,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:06 AM
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Forgetting that women are just as flawed as men are, but in their own way, and most of them are really nothing special. I think pretty much all pills pedestalize women except MGTOW which knocks women off the pedestal completely and kicks a bit of mud on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:11 AM
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Reality is that we don't live among general people. We live among individuals. ... People often cry about not being able to connect with others or find love. But break out the shocked pikachu face Seriously? lol. Don't tell me you don't see the irony of what you did there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 11:51 AM
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You can't change your entire personality but you can nudge it towards one thing or another with a lot of consistent effort. If it really matters to you a lot, you can nudge it towards things women prefer, but think long and hard whether that's what you want to do with YOUR life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:29 AM
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People need to stop generalizing. I was born with a vagina That's the thing, people have the right to generalize all they want, it's them making sense of the world. What people generally don't care about is that you, a single individual, were born with a vagina and everything that follows. That's what blogs are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 03:55 AM
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For most women out there, this is what most of them should be able to realistically demand imo -be at least 5'6 -be around a 5 or slightly better looks wise -have any type of job, bonus if he's not in debt with a useless degree -average boring personality is fine -slightly pudgy is ok Not surprisingly this is the type of men women tend to marry and settle down with after fucking around a lot, no wonder why those average simps are often resented!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:50 PM
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probably more bots on bumble since it's a bigger platform. Especially in Seattle they're pretty much all Hinge tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:41 PM
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one could say I'm one of his "only fans"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:16 PM
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before balding, chop wood carry water after balding, chop wood carry water
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:44 PM
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My mom is married, has kids, and has hit the wall so she's definitely not fucking alphas on the side anymore. She absolutely was doing it when she was able to, by her own admission. My dad isn't really a beta, but he is a huge simp. My sister got pregnant before even graduating high school, so riding the cock carousel might not be so easy anymore, but how do you think she got pregnant? lol I still love them as family members, but I have to be honest with myself. If I was a dude looking at them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:39 PM
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The men "historically not reproducing" bit is often used to justify why there's probably going to be a large section of men of this generation in the modern world who won't reproduce, but a large section of women who will. The myth is something like: it's not a byproduct of any modern societal imbalances, but merely a side effect of nature selecting out the losers and it's always been this way forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:34 AM
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lol okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:03 PM
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It's because men tend to maintain small friend groups. Why waste one of those limited friend slots on a woman? Guy friends are much easier to maintain and don't get emotional over petty shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:18 PM
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20% is noticeably different from 15%, it's somewhere in between those two points. Not sure why this matters so much to have a clear idea where women stop looking as good as a man with 10% body fat, it seems like a strangely unnatural and oddly specific question to even attempt answer The women who point out that they carry weight better tend to be like 30-40% anyway and are living some kind of delusion that they look just as good as an in-shape athletic guy, but it doesnt work that way. Men just…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:51 PM
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My mistake. Might donate on patreon if he keeps putting out indecent content.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:40 PM
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you're not getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:39 PM
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As I said, 15% body fat for a woman is roughly equivalent to 10% bodyfat for a man. There is some truth that women carry weight better and they do take it too far, but in the end male desperation ends up proving them right anyway. There's no limit to hypocrisy most men will tolerate from women so it ends up looking like being chubby/fat and wanting a fit guy is nothing out of the ordinary and maybe even a preference of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:35 PM
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Your test applies for men with feminine socialization. Male and female social circles will look very different unless the man is feminie socialized (or the woman is masculine socialized). soytest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:27 PM
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Did you even read what I wrote? Women are given some slack, there can usually be quite few % body fat difference. Anything more than that is hypocritical, and driven almost entirely by fetishism and male thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:19 PM
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That's a shitty test. Too many cases where it doesn't apply. A while back I was seeing a religious girl and based on her clinginess it was clear where we stood, but I wouldn't be caught dead in her social circle. I think the fact that her social group actively disliked me from the 1 hangout I was invited to turned out to my benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:03 PM
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I agree that how you carry fat is relative to one's sex, but carrying fat better is not the same thing as being a fat woman To put it into perspective, female lingerie models have around 15% body fat. For a man that's nothing special but that's elite level for a woman. It's about relative to being >10% FB athlete body type for a guy. What I'm saying is that girls demanding fit guys should be fit also (relative to their sex). The only time when this doesn't apply is when a guy cares about his own…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:57 PM
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No I didn't. They suck whether childless or not. Here it is again: none of the guys fucking them wants to make the mistake of reproducing with an FDS and be stuck with them for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:39 PM
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And some low value men have reproduced, so what? Does that fact remove the "low value" from those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:32 PM
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What I think is kind of funny is that FDS women talk about being "extremely selective" as if they're not going to also end up taking themselves out of the gene pool in the process. You know the term "choosing beggars" applies to most of them, none of the guys fucking them wants to make the mistake of reproducing with an FDS and be stuck with them for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:30 PM
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It depends. If the standard matters to the other side, they meet it but you don't meet it -- yes it is hypocritical. Otherwise no. For example, if fatgirl wants a fit guy, then she's a hypocrite. Most fit guys care about their partner's fitness. If a lazy hobo guy wants a wealthy woman, the guy is a hypocrite. Most women aren't looking to support someone. Most dudes do care about their partner's fitness so most fat women are, in fact, hypocrites. And so are most sluts. This also explains why guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:09 PM
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Not all relationships assume commitment and financial entanglement -- actually most variations don't. These together are only typical in a type of commited relationship called "marriage", which is why he's is pointing that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:47 PM
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He sees the writing on the wall that a totalitarian government (Marxist or not) and a subsequent collapse is in the cards for the US, but he naively thinks this can be prevented by red-pilling simps and giving them sexbots. Kind of silly he thinks that you can fix simps in a vaccuum, as if they weren't a symptom of larger conditions. And it's even sillier that he thinks fixing simps could magically reverse the US' incremental progression towards totalitarianism. The past 20 years in the US will …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:22 PM
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I just subscribed, this guy has some good points. Might donate on patreon if he keeps putting out decent content.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:05 PM
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Not in the mood to argue. I'm just going to say I don't buy it and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:29 PM
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I think a lot of women are unaware of their true sex drives and so it may appear as if they are lying This reads like excuse-making for simple lying to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:53 PM
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Wow, a really clever sounding way to say nothing of substance. It's not like you're sampling from a group of Harvard graduates or all-star football players. You're talking about a group of men with an interne connection, the selection criteria is about as broad as it can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:17 AM
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How are you able to make such a definitive statement Because I have common sense. For any large group of people, most of them will be average. Blue pillers are a large group of people therefore most blue pillers are average. It really is that simple. Most red pillers are average too. I don't have to meet them all and do some empirical quantitative analysis to know that definitively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:12 AM
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she’s been with 10 including me imo that's a lot but if you're not planning to marry her anytime soon, there's really nothing to worry about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:46 PM
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Most blue pill guys don't really have all that much personality, looks and money either. They're just more willing to take a bad relationship deal and demand that others do as well because that's what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:35 PM
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Couldn't find the comments, but I wouldn't be surprised. It's the internet, everyone has a pseudo-anonymous voice and they're a public figure it can get ugly. Even the most respected A-list celebrities who are leagues above the haters still end up with a handful haters among their millions of fans. IMO it's part of having fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:29 PM
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He gets to divorce whomever he wants and Inshallah he's taken to the cleaners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:31 PM
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No, it's more like who cares. Not all RP takes all/any of these guys seriously, I've read maybe one rollo tomassi article in my life, I've never even heard of the other 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:27 PM
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Yes, all the time. I practically just translate my opinions on PPD into assumptions in real life, it really doesn't bother me one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:20 PM
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disagreed 11/VII.2% top shelf CMV counterpoints being made here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:15 PM
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There's plenty of "nothing wrong" things, it doesn't mean I do them. What it comes down to is whether it's worth it or not for you. For a person who has noticeably better social skills of course cold approaching may be worth it, just like OLD may be worth it for a male model. Ah, but you might say that at least you could develop your social skills! For what? If I was genuinely interested those things (i.e commission sales job, take up public speaking, take improv acting class, so on) I'd already…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:44 PM
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I will be happy to, but before I do that, do you at least recognize that there is more to deciding to do something than whether or not there is "nothing wrong with it"? There's a lot of things a person can do that there's "nothing wrong with it" but people choose not to do for various reasons, does that make sense so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:14 PM
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There's nothing wrong with cold approaching like there's nothing wrong with going to a business and giving the manager a firm handshake, looking him in the eye, and asking him for a job. "nothing wrong with it" means very little, it's disconnected from the broader reality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:21 PM
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As adults, I will not do "friends first" unless she has a very conservative history and lives out very conservative values. I will automatically assume any modern liberal woman in a city who says she wants friends first is wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:25 PM
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It's fine to be a slut, it's not ok to go from slut to marriage material, it's not ok to go from slut to "I kind of like take it slow now". If you choose to be a slut, you're a slut for life so be sure that's the life you want. Don't change your mind and start demanding that men need to treat you different from now on -- you're a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:17 PM
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Swing and a miss, again. I don't know how just one person can manage to produce so much garbage day after day and not get tired of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:09 PM
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Interesting, so "gross" is from being associated with a group of people that women don't like, and not from actually doing anything that one might consider sleazy or disgusting. Female hamstering is a hell of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:05 PM
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FDS isn't about avoiding emotional manipulation, it's a declaration of emnity towards men. It's fine by me if you want to make enemies of men, but quit being such cowards about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:56 PM
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Women could slather themselves in diarrhea and there'd still be guys willing to pretend they've always been intrested in that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:15 AM
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This is a bit meta but I'm confused by how this post has so few upvotes but many other posts by Lilith get hundreds of upvotes. Seems kind of arbitrary when practically all of them are garbage tier IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 05:24 PM
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Wrong answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:39 PM
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OP is treating pre-selection like it's the only possible factor for attraction, but no one ever makes that claim. The daily dose of strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:46 PM
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and observe the choices people make, it's just another red pill waiting to happen for the men who are slow to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:36 PM
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You haven't been paying attention to women on tinder, have you? Ew, this weirdo seemed ok but he got a misdemeanor charge for having an ounce of weed 6 years ago, gross and sketchy. Oh my gaawd this guy is so hawt, background check not needed he's pre-approved teehee! Bad for some cheaters and criminals, maybe, for others it won't make a lick of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:58 PM
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some parents get nervous with men near their kids. Why would they choose to hire a man when there is a woman that will fit the role better and go down better with parents. Some parents get nervous with a black surgeon operating on their kids. Why would they let a black surgeon operate on them when a white surgeon would do the job better, and go down better with the parents. ​ they should be. Firstly, the court does what’s best for the kids. Secondly the mother always plays a lot more of a role i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:37 AM
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kewl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:52 AM
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Q4M: Why do men expect women to be red cross of pussy? Tomorrow the I expect sun will rise and I expect a woman will make a strawman argument on PPD. That's all as far as my expectations go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:12 AM
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The ones who seem like they shouldn't be able to, but somehow do. I'd much rather listen to an average looking girl who can do 10 pull ups than a super jacked marine that can crank out 50 without breaking a sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:48 AM
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that's what real life is like, take a zanny. There's so little listening can do, it won't change a single thing people will still be people at the end of the day. You don't have to like every group of people. If you find you don't get along with certain people very much, you can just cease any voluntary interactions with them. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:31 AM
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I make it clear early on that I don't tolerate that sort of thing, so if they do this I don't tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:06 AM
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To put it nicely, there's just way too many unattractive nerds to make this work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:52 PM
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There isn't going to be any of that in a progressive society because there is a passive social bias towards progressivism that I don't think can be reversed without undoing social and technological development as well. It would take a global collapse where violence and physical protection are necessary and the pendulum will swing towards men, and in a hurry. But some things never change. Even in this scenario, women will still select and nature will favor the bold but successful risk takers and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 06:33 AM
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these bitches be whack yo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:57 AM
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Of the men that consider themselves to be Non-Chads / the bottom 80%- Who really needs an armchair psychologist to invent a million reasons they're a "bottom 80%" man when all it takes is basic math and a bit of common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:20 AM
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I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:15 AM
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i beg to differ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9PiqCeLEmM having a penis is the best thing about being a man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:12 PM
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By the same token: queefs. Queefs are basically a funny little fart sound that comes out of a woman's vagina. Sounds pretty embarrassing. Totally empathize with women on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:01 PM
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In the context of "freedom", it seems ironic that with this newly gained freedom in the West that women fought for, so many women decided to to the opposite direction and join (by their own account) one of the most degrading and oppressive industries. I wonder how many of the women marching for their rights were doing it with the intention of their daughters getting throatfucked on film for cash. On the other hand, men didn't have any sort of movement that they could contradict the principles of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:12 PM
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even if you're at the bottom there are plenty of ways to game this you're not a huge pussy but then again I guess that is also part of natural selection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:20 AM
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Many women do say as much through their actions and I'm sure it's led to many fucking coronaries. Not mine though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:42 PM
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Either way you’re not still not seeing women as full fledged human beings Yup, no arguments there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:52 PM
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Yep because they don’t see us as people but as a “reward” for men being good men. To be fair, some of us see women as a punishment for being heterosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:26 PM
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oh this bullshit again
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:51 AM
1

If you're not liking them for their personalities, then what they're liking isn't anything about them being a "bad girl". What are they referring to as a bad girl if not her personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:28 AM
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I've had a fair share of "bad women" and I couldn't stand their personalities. I would have never endured through their constant bullshit unless they were 100% physically my ideal type and even then I've bailed early on a few of them I honestly don't get how some guys think bad girl personalities are fun. Unfortunately it seems to come with the territory for most physically attractive girls out there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:29 AM
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toxic masculinity It's little more than an attempt by feminists to regulate the behavior of men, you're not supposed to take what they say seriously. It doesn't deserve serious consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:00 AM
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I’ve done occult rituals where I killed a stray cat and used its blood as a sacrifice to create a sigil before I masturbated on it and burned it. I was nodding in agreement with this until what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:18 AM
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Not in the mood to argue with you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:44 PM
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You described pickmes to get the kind of response you clearly want to hear, but it's a little too obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:23 PM
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Do men actually like these type of women? Or are they simply easy placement holders to pass the time while you wait for a woman you really want? All else being equal, a woman who communicates she wants you even if she does it unskillfully is MUCH PREFERABLE than the typical woman who has a set of hoops ready for men to jump through. Being a pick me is the clearest indicator of interest, the closest thing women get to approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:38 PM
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What is there to debate? It's an opinion question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:18 AM
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I have some friends who are and have been wildly successful all their lives, and some who I personally consider unsuccessful due to the outcomes. Most unsucessful ones - they always believe bloopy bullshit and get sucked into a bad deal that they end up regretting. Successful ones - not really envious or jealous, it's not their fault women are the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:00 AM
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Yes, my panties are absolutely soaked from this post. that was so obviously insincere that it just ends up reading like sarcasm anyway 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:02 AM
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You may be discomforted, maybe angry by what Nietsche wrote about people like you, but it's all true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:03 AM
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Was your postg-grad focused on primarily critiquing Nietzche? You mention ethical society and that people should shape their interactions around what is ethical. Who or what would you propose decides on an ethical framework?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:14 AM
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If it occurs to you to write a post listing out a bunch of drivel on how virtuous of a person you are, chances are you a blue pilled male. I'm sure the women here are absolutely creaming their pants over what a good boy you are. I'd suggest reading a bit of Nietzche's Geneaology of Morality and maybe look into testosterone therapy, but chances are you are way beyond hope, so there's nothing really to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:41 AM
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Yeah programming back then was done manually on analog punch cards, a trained monkey could be a programmer back then because computers were basically low level number crunchers and not systems running higher level software programs. It was like being a telephone operator, it required no specialized training back then. As soon as computer science started getting abstract in the 60s and 70s, women got left behind. No surprise there. People want to act like men just muscled the women out and create…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:38 AM
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Groceries, chores and housework and making breakfast has always been a woman's job given that they have lower IQs they are more suited towards simpler tasks, and since women forgot their place it's about to become a woman robot's job soon -- easily automated. Man's job is to invent things. Men are inventing your replacements, and also inventing machines that you can nag and annoy instead of us. No need to thank us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:21 AM
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logical conclusion that everyone will make, people will know and I guarantee you it'll be slung around like an insult Not really, I take my laptop to and from work every day. I'm sure people could guess what men get up to on their laptops when they get home, but who's really out there insulting me for owning one? lol In the future, you will probably need bots for everyday life, just like most people need a mobile phone. But it really is telling how you think bots will be a shame and insults apoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:09 PM
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Wrong. Bots are going to be mass-marketed as general purpose assistants, and they'll just happen to be (modestly) attractive. They'll start out as a glorified Amazon Alexa smart speaker but made to look like a human. You know that if Apple or Amazon were to make a home assistant, she would be a cute early-mid 20s girl next door, which is exactly the reason that within 30 seconds of unboxing it men will start wondering how they can fuck one. Obviously they won't come pre-installed with sex sequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 09:51 PM
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weak
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 07:16 AM
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Yes, I'll even go further and say that the government should pay for a mandatory hysterectomy. It needs to be women being made to pay for their irresponsible behavior, not innocent fetuses. You need to get your parts sewn shut, disgusting ape-creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:03 PM
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it's true, it happened once
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:56 AM
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Most men aren't survivalists, yet if you put a group of average men and average women on an island somewhere, the men will be fine and the women will be bickering and crying. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:55 AM
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I wouldn't be thrilled to be a father, but I would much rather raise a child who I'm responsible for creating than to kill it and throw its lifeless body in a plastic bag because it would be an inconvenience in my life. I could never live with the remorse of killing a fetus. What a shitty human being it must take to do this and just move on with life like it was nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:30 AM
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lol you're never, ever supposed to beg for a second chance good lord, what the fuck are these men doing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 06:53 AM
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A lot doesn't mean most. It just means "a lot".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:27 AM
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I don't know what he means because it doesn't seem to be true for all or even men like OP implied. He didn't imply it was for all men or men in general. Let's quote it once more: For a lot of men, hearing a woman is in her late 30s (let's say she's fairly attractive and she doesn't quite look her age) is a total boner killer. Which is true, for a lot of men, older women are a boner killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:05 AM
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don't forget the neo-nazi and registered child sex offender profiles that were getting tons messages from women on Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:01 AM
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For a lot of men, certain genres of porn will be boner killers. For a lot of men, porn involving older women will be a boner killer. Not sure what's so difficult to understand here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 04:47 AM
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do it, who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:25 AM
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You're just strawmanning right now. that's the typical style of the person you're replying to, I don't know why people even bother
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:22 AM
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I will usually tip my waitress 10% at restaurants because I know they're probably struggling (before I get a slew of angry downvotes, I live in a country where tipping isn't a requirement!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 05:23 PM
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that's probably what she (and practically all women) want, and as the wikipedia article says "...this leads to most women facing trade-offs in their mating choice. Women often find themselves needing to compromise due to the unlikeliness of finding a male who is both genetically fit and willing to help in child-rearing" Expectations meeting reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:23 PM
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regardless of compensation, it's not really a strategy. The actual strategy which ends up failing men is marrying with the intention to secure consistent sex from their wife. Those guys are a bunch of suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:18 PM
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Either way, their role to fulfill primarily the SEXUAL release that they are no longer able to get from their wife like they once could. But even then, dual "sex strategy" doesn't work either because it ends up becoming one-sided on the mistress side. Not to mention, getting married with the intention to be dead bedroomed and have to cheat behind their wive's back while risking a messy divorce doesn't sound much like a strategy to me. There is a huge difference between the dual mating strategy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:58 AM
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how many men actually hire professionals for the dates? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:52 AM
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A more accurate term might be "compensating for sudden lack of sex strategy". It's something men end up resorting to because very often after a woman has a kid, the wife gets fat and her desire for sex dries up, the guy ends up having to find discrete ways to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:49 AM
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A man doesn't secure long-term parental investment OR high quality genes from a mistress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_pluralism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:27 AM
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kewl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:23 AM
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Yeah, that's not a dual mating strategy. Your mistress isn't going to be having your kids OR raising your kids. There is no "mating" going on with your mistress. The idea behind the dual mating strategy is that a woman wants to have children by a dominant man, but for it to be raised by a good (step)father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:18 AM
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And yet you are the one promoting it. For the 3rd time, I was criticizing the view that the women here are any better, not promoting it. We're on the same side and you're still arguing with me because you're a bit slow on the uptake, to put it mildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:08 AM
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I get you think the quality of women here is higher than the men here Jesus christ. That's exactly the view I was objecting to. You still think I wasn't being sarcastic. just stop talking, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:55 AM
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Well, the quality of men here is remarkably lower than what I normally encounter offline. If you have a problem with generalizations, what does this look like to you? Do you think it could POSSIBLY be what my comment was getting at? You replied to the sarcasm as if it wasn't, so yes, it went over your head. I keep saying this over and over again: there needs to be an IQ test to use the internet. This place is teeming with smoothbrains.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:34 AM
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seems to have gone over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:17 AM
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If the men here would finally get off PPD and meet some actual respectable women maybe they'd discover some very respectable women out there... but their worldview view is seems to be formed entirely by the human debris that lands here. It's a real shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:49 AM
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Women on the other hand aren't valued for much more than looks. So if they're lacking in that category, little to nothing can make up for that. _ little to nothing can make up for that. _ make up makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:44 AM
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finally someone who understands
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:32 AM
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there should be an iq test to use the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:17 AM
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they know better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:14 AM
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I'm happy to ride the town bicycle as long as I don't have to get married to it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:10 PM
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that's an awkward typo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 01:57 AM
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Like this, but pretend it's a woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckHn4gsuZew
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:02 PM
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It's not the same thing, but both are still true. Women also have it much easier than men in the dating market, because women have the option o be selectors instead of being required to be bidders. Even though that is always an option for women also, they rarely see it as necessary to take that it, because passively waiting for the right one to show up works well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:55 AM
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If I mistook you for a dumb leftist, my mistake. I can't always tell who is and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:44 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:28 AM
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To be honest I don't even know what checking one's privilege would entail, it's just a cliche I frequently hear dumb leftists say. And since I suspect there's a good overlap of these people on this sub it was pretty amusing to see the reactions when these terms are flipped on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:27 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:22 AM
1

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/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:13 AM
1

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/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:57 AM
2

You mean if the option was readily available and you just didn't need or want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:41 AM
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Why are you talking about being homeless now I'm so confused
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:24 AM
3

No, that's not the only way that statement can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:22 AM
3

Could just be that RP philosophy might be leeching into the soysphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:04 AM
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k, I guess we've both said out piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:58 PM
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What makes you think this post is only about sex? Didn't bother to read huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:56 PM
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You're wrong. The only crimes you can reasonably assume guilt of are the successful prosecutions. You can't assume guilt in the majority of the unsuccessful prosecutions. Let me say it again in big letters for you: YOU'RE WRONG.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:51 PM
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You were the one who claimed there was a "lack of consequences". The fact that you are admitting cases making it to courts proves that there are consequences where it's reported and there is enough evidence of to prosecute someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:40 PM
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The men who have a really easy time with sex also have much higher standards for women who aren't bitches and they have a meaningful connection with, who would have thought? Weird how once that becomes easy, other demands start becoming more important. Few men have the luxury of finding meaningful connection when they can't even meet more basic biological desires. So the vast majority women are no different from the very few very highly desired men who share their picky standards, but they don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:25 PM
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There are consequences for perpetrators of domestic violence. Federal and state criminal consequences. You're wrong. Pump and dump culture requires a woman to select the pump and dumper over the men who wouldn't do that. Without women enabling it, pump and dump culture would be literally impossible. Wrong X 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:02 PM
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Conversely, women, can get this(laid), but many are not viable for relationships. Going to call bullshit on this one. Which women aren't viable for relationships? People keep trying to act like it's somehow even or fair because men have difficulties in sex and women have difficulties in relationships, but even the most insufferable, fat, garbage cunts can get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:01 PM
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Do you have anything to say that's actually on-topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 10:19 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:59 PM
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Women make friendships easier and not really because of their outstanding personalities, more so because they're women. That's the point of what I said. Men don't necessarily struggle with friendships, but they don't have the artificial handicap for being women. The "women are wonderful effect" pervades in more than just 1 social context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:51 PM
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The number of women killed by men they've said "no" to is eclipsed by the number of women killed by the men they've said "yes" to. Think about this in the context of your comment. How afraid are women, actually? Not very.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:38 PM
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you reek of incel in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:14 PM
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If it's easier to obtain (whatever), then it's easier to obtain good (whatever). Conversely, if it's harder to obtain (whatever), then it's harder to obtain GOOD (whatever).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:10 PM
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.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:53 PM
2

so how is your life and safety in constant threat again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:45 PM
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ok but how is it possible to be constantly in bars? Aren't they usually only open at night? I have no idea what FLGS means, stop using weird acronyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:15 PM
0

Interesting. So what do you mean "has to" bear children?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:11 PM
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Do you go around kicking guys in the balls or something? Do you compulsively wipe your boogers on men or something? Unless you're constantly pissing men off, your life and safety aren't constantly threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:08 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:07 PM
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Getting pumped and dumped isn't the only option. If you care about relationships, you can select for men who make good relationship partners. Unless you're asking me, what about the women who want to be pumped and dumped and THEN decide they care about relationships, which is kind of a question of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:06 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:02 PM
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>The fact men struggle with friendships with men the way woman don't isn't woman privilege. Men struggle with friendships with men? Where did you pull this from? Definitely not something I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:00 PM
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A lot of you say things that suggests men's personalities are inferior, it's often the reason credited to why they can't get relationships. Women do think they're better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:57 PM
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You're trying to change the subject. Not choosing "any idiot" doesn't automatically mean you must to choose Chad to pump and dump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:55 PM
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what do you mean by "has to" bear children?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:50 PM
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sorry but how is employment a good argument when women are just as employed (if not more) than men? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:44 PM
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The logic fails where you assume that I said women have LESS desire for a relationship. Again, how is this implied?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:43 PM
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It doesn't imply that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:32 PM
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ok, but do women actually choose "any horny idiot" to pump and dump them? Smells of strawman. The privilege is in being in a role where you can (and do) select against these men in favor for men who aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:31 PM
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It's not clear really what is being bid for, either. Both sides have an equal amount of incomplete information, therefore, it's still an advantage to be in the selecting role. And if you don't want that, you always have the option to put yourself in the bidding role, which few women ever take on. Not that I blame you, passive selecting role is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:23 PM
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Being in a position where men bid and women select is a clear dating advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:05 PM
1

know your audience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:01 PM
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not really. I said personality OR character because I know they're not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:00 PM
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Skip all the bullshit advice and buy a pair of lifts / lifted shoes you just need like 1.5 - 2 inches of height anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:44 AM
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I'd throatfuck the stepdaughter while the mom fingered herself in the corner, fully clothed It's not really sexy otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:36 AM
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They don't. Most men are considered unattractive by default, which means there's no attractiveness for a man to lose, whether it's at 30, 40, or 50 Women on the other hand, a lot of women are really hot from 18-25 and then they start to fall off one by one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:33 PM
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Japanese ONLY good waist to hip ratio breasts defy gravity angelic voice, sounds like a squeaking mouse calls me sempai or oppai is a virgin but fucks like a porn star wants children, but is barren very slow aging genetics pukes (cutely) from disgust when she sees Chad has a very feminine penis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:14 AM
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Yes, there are a lot of people, including some men, who seem to take it a bit too personally. Good observation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:52 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiWL_ilmfmo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:48 AM
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Honestly it's just entertaining af. It's like going to the zoo and looking at all the weird animals (myself included, I'm sure).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:33 AM
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It's mostly this way to keep betas in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:14 AM
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Regardless of blowjobs, women frequently change their criteria for what counts, conveniently forget, not count the drunk flings, leave out the ones where they didn't cum, leave out the ones where they decided they didn't like the guy, and so on. Basically if you squint real hard, her n-count is 4. Sure it is, buddy. Just smile and nod.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:02 AM
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If sex robots ever get that good there will be no real field to play on anymore. If they got that good, eventually it would just become a gross / kinky fetish to fuck a meat human that has unpleasant smells, random fluids that taste strange, hair, unflattering fat deposits etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:36 AM
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Sex has been PIV in most girls brains from the time they learn what it is By this definition, anal would not count as sex Let me guess, Catholic background? or just French?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:03 AM
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To be fair, her face was her best feature
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:57 PM
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Don't you mean /u/SonicBackScratcher? Or are you talking about a different ugly manwoman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:49 PM
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It literally started out back in high school when I googled "how do I get bitches to like me"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:43 PM
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women keep the damage under control by changing the criteria for what counts as sex at 16 - It counts as sex if you do something sexual (female brain: 3, actual: 3) at 18 - it counts as sex only if the penis goes inside the vagina (female brain: 3, actual: 10) at 22 - it counts as sex only if one of you cums while PIV (female brain 5, actual: 14) at 25 - it counts as sex only if he cums inside you with no condom (female brain: 4, actual 24) at 30 - it only counts as sex if he cums inside you at …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:16 PM
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only a maximum of 20% of women can settle down with the top 20% of men, so they start insisting to the rest of the men that their past whoredom shouldn't matter that's really the only problem tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:57 PM
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ስለ መግደላቸውም ቢሆን ወይም ስለ አስማታቸው ወይም ስለ ዝሙታቸው ወይም ስለ ስርቆታቸው ንስሐ አልገቡም"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:37 PM
2

I've heard the books are epic but I haven't read them. Check out the user "Quinns Ideas" on YouTube, he seems to gloss over a lot of Dune lore and provide a lot of intersting background. Also I would be so disappointed if I read the books but the movie was a total flop. Might hold off for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:53 PM
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Is anyone looking forward to that new Dune movie? Wondering if I should read the books or just watch the movie. They should turn it into a series like Game of Thrones imo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:17 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:06 PM
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The Poem of PPD by Barles Chukoski there is a loneliness in this world so great that you can see it in the slow movement of the hands of a clock people so tired mutilated either by love or no love people just are not good to each other one on one the rich are not good to the rich the poor are not good to the poor we are afraid our educational system tells us that we can all be big-ass winners it hasn't told us about the gutters or the suicides or the terror of one person aching in one place alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:17 PM
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Does anyone else hate it when you have one last piece of poop in you but you just can’t squeeze it out and eventually just give up and decide wait til your next poop? hmm, maybe it's a lack of fiber any thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:14 PM
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ew
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:55 PM
3

nice blog
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:48 PM
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Even better: don't have kids then you don't have to wait for them to be independent
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:47 PM
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maybe the mess is part of the attraction though. Like Red Dead Redemption 2 had a ton of bugs when it was released, but that just helped it become viral. On the other hand, it was a great game. Not sure if Cyberpunk would get GOTY for 2021 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:23 PM
2

Please donate to the Skinks for Skanks Foundation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:53 PM
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did anyone here get cyberpunk 2077 for PC? Kind of on the fence if I should get it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:50 PM
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Mrs_Drgree is a cunt to everyone equally though. I hate her too. But she's a fair cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:31 PM
4

trans women are still men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:25 PM
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普通话是在谈谈里
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:06 AM
4

just be a self-acceptancecel bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:50 AM
1

So your advice is to pirate a movie? Yeah, pretty worthless advice. I haven't come across a movie worth pirating in decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:23 AM
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ew
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:18 AM
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gender and social dynamics back to the way things were in the 50s Yeah I'd pick up a weapon and so I could kill this faggot and promise harems of enslaved, psychologically submissive big tittied human female clones for all betas to love whenever they wanted to, and unenhanced aka inferior women would be their manual labor slaves. We're not going back to the 50s like a bunch of dweebs we're going forward to neo-feudalism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:07 AM
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In general, people will agree when someone they know is an asshole. Unless one of them has a conflict of interest, usually won't be much debate . So no, usually asshole means something similar enough to different people that consensus can be reached more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 08:23 PM
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It's not that I think female imperatives are more important than male. That's what society has decided. I don't think the male imperative necessarily requires any of what you listed, but it requires some kind of action which isn't necessarily regressive. And it's so far down in priorities that I guarantee you society will continue to look the other way until / unless there is a serious catastrophe before they act. There isn't going to be any pro-active anything -- just reactive to impending disa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:17 PM
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You don’t seem to care that those needs must be met by someone else nope. you're just not thinking with your head
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:11 PM
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k it mostly benefits women, I agree. You need to be ok with it because it's not going to change this until (or unless) reality steps in and punches society in the mouth for allowing it to continue. Barring something earth shattering, women will never be asked to sacrifice their right to consensual sex. This right is tied to their participation in the labor market which is tied to their right to vote, and it's a conversation I don't want to get into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:52 PM
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If they don't think there's an incentive, they should go ahead and fuck around if they want. I'm serious, it's the most rational choice. I'm literally advocating for that, but it's like you're trying to make me beg women not to 😂 The reason I brought it up is that just like angry dudes about women sleeping around, there are also a lot of women angry that their sexual past is reconsidered when it comes to commitment. They got to fuck around like they wanted to, the men can be non commital if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:37 PM
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Obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have reason to say it. There's another side to that coin, but it's not at all surprising that you chose to ignore it. Yes, it's just "the men". There there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:17 PM
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This, and for me I would add doesn't want to get married again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:57 PM
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whoops didn't notice the flair. Nah I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:53 PM
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It needs to get worse until it's undeniable that things are fucked. People resist change until they see themselves / friends / family suffering, then they wake up. People need to just date their looks match (and commit) This is as pointless as saying politicians just need to spend funds properly. It's one thing to say it, and another thing entirely to design a system that ensures this. The system we're in now has probably suffered irreparable damage. You're not going to repair it by dispensing g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:33 PM
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First we need things to get way worse. Majority incel, huge spike in male suicides, unsustainable single mom population. Western society can probably coast for decades just on momentum. Half of the users on PPD still insist everything is just peachy outside of reddit, and for the most part it still is. imo the faster we can let this experiment reach its logical conclusions, the faster we can say oops we fucked up, let's rebuild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:22 PM
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But the current atmosphere makes it hard to find women worth commitment and many women don't even want to commit because they're having too much fun fucking around. If you can't find those women, don't commit. Women for the most part have decided fucking around is better, there's literally nothing you can do or say to make them stop. They can but then if most men stop offering commitment and if most men assume that all women are probably high n count sluts these days, that affects even the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:01 PM
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Men can commit if they want, even to a woman who fucked around. And women can decide not to fuck around if they want. They just have to decide what's more important to them, like grown adults. The men and women who wanted an abundance of viable commitment partners lost the debate and society has moved on. There is no going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:48 PM
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What's necessary is a efficient way to connect with those within our imperative field. naive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:24 PM
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The one action I see as very irrational is the attempt to make either side sacrifice their own imperatives, but it will never work. This is why I say, let women fuck all the men they want and let men do all the non-commiting that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:08 PM
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That's really all it is, a semantic discussion. At first the cliche was that sex is not a need (obviously, directed at men). Then someone raised a pretty strong objection. Now it's "fine then, sex is a need but not a right!". Basically reframing the semantics however possible to preserve your own "needs" met by society, while still refusing to acknowledge how the needs of others will be met by society, if at all. I'm not even in the "sex is a need" camp but it's clear to see most PPD women are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:58 PM
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Reminder: most men don't matter. Just the men they think are best in their opinion. And they know they will share that opinion with a lot of other women who may be prettier, and women are judged primarily on prettiness, so it's plenty reason to be insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:10 AM
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Depends how you're measuring success. Marriage does end up putting more pressure on men to perform financially, so if you measure success by raw financial performance, they're right. A workhorse husband who makes $250k per year and spends 1/4 of that on himself is more successful than the backelor making $80k all to himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:44 AM
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sigh, no we are definitely not including transactional. Here is the comment by /u/Cimorene86 again: I already can't convince the men here that it's better to be single than in an actual mentally or physically abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:03 PM
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the word was "abusive" if this is the best example you can think of, you're clearly grasping at straws
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 09:29 PM
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I'm totally ok with women fucking as many guys as they want I just don't want to LTR or marry them. This is pretty much standard TRP philosophy, right? Why can't we both be ok with our choices? Women fuck as many men as they want and men settle down with as many or as few high-n women as they want. Seems fair to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 05:36 PM
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But I am one of those men. High n women are only worth hook-ups for me, and not worth relationships at all, at least not to me. But men have relationships with high N woman all the time, so my opinions on high n women being only worth hookups doesn't matter, right? I'm just trying to figure out what the problem is with a few men thinking women are only worth hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 05:27 PM
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I was using the general "your". Men have relationships with high N woman all the time, the men who wouldn't are an insignificant minority, right? Every woman can fuck as many guys as she wants with pretty much zero negative consequence. Then what is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:37 PM
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ok, then there's no problem is there? Doesn't matter if you have a high n-count, plenty of men will want to have a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:31 PM
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Women just can't accept the idea that they won't be settled for. That's where the whole n-count debate is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:29 PM
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A lot of men are fine with never being settled for LTRs or marriage. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:16 PM
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Drop some usernames or stop wasting my time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:56 PM
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