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But rather than having conversations about the number of men being harassed. People write essays about how women ARENT being harassed. Rather than legitimizing harassment of men to help men everywhere, people work to delegitimize harassment of women which does nothing to help men and only excuses behaviours like online comments and cat calling.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 09:18 AM
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There's a little ObviousObservations in all of us. But there's only one of me.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 01:10 AM
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Can confirm. Not me. I was better at trolling.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 01:09 AM
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No. Because I'm not desperately trying to justify the actions of predatory person. He apologized for it and you still dont believe it happened? Really?
/r/MensRights11/05/21 11:18 PM
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He literally asked her what her age was in the texts... THEN he asked to get a hotel room.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 06:56 PM
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Hmm. So to be clear, you're okay with 34 year old celebrities grooming 17 year olds so they can have sex with them when they turn 18. You don't find that behavioir pretty shitty? I realize you've backed yourself into a corner here, but think very carefully. Do you think Francos actions here are acceptable? Or gross? Because I think it's gross. I think a 34 year old female teacher grooming a 17 year old male is gross too. Remove gender for a second and answer honestly.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 04:01 PM
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The guy tried to meet someone in a hotel that was half his age and on vacation with her mother. If you had a daughter, would you want people defending that? I get innocent until proven guilty. I don't get the 'make it seem like not a big deal after proven guilty'. That's not pro men. Thats just defending bad behaviour.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 03:45 PM
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I'd want to steer the conversation away from defending a confirmed ephebophile too.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 03:34 PM
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This is a troll account that just says inflammatory things. They have 2 followers and their account has been active for under a week. https://mobile.twitter.com/carsonisekaren
/r/MensRights11/05/21 03:33 PM
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It was never okay to sleep with a 17 year old when you are in your 30s. But I do agree that's its pretty gross that it was deemed acceptable at a certain time. Luckily, we've shifted the goal posts correctly in this instance.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 02:07 PM
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I don't understand. Are you saying it's okay to date a 17 year old? Because a large portion of states have determined that's rape.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 01:19 PM
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Franco said he was embarrassed and apologized for the texts with the 17 year old on national television. Says a lot that you just assumed they were faked without any reason to believe that.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 01:17 PM
-7

How are they unspecified? He asked a 17 year old to get a hotel room with him when he knew she was 17? There's documented proof of this. Depending on the state, that may not be illegal. But it's certainly not a good idea so people don't want to work with him. The other set of allegations is 5 women that say he acted inappropriately. No idea if that's true. But it's pretty clear he makes bad decisions based on the first incident. I wouldn't put him in charge of people and just hope nothing blows …
/r/MensRights11/05/21 12:28 PM
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She was sentenced to a mental institution to only be released when the secretary of state for justice deems it acceptable. This was a decision that she needs to be in a mental institution and not a prison but she may spend the rest of her life there. This was the right call as she had a long history of psychological issues. Putting someone like this in prison will just give her the opportunity to kill more people. She needs more supervision and medication than most prisons can offer.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 12:02 PM
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I've said countless times that the term toxic masculinity is not okay and I've reiterated that here.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 12:04 AM
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I specifically said it was damaging and shouldn't be used. But I guess making things up is easier than admitting you were wrong.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 10:14 PM
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I uhhh... didn't say that. Im saying it's not okay to talk about toxic masculinity or toxic femininity. And defending it by saying 'feminists do it' is stupid and petty.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 09:52 PM
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It's both or none in my opinion. So regardless of intentions the result is an attack on the gender as a whole. So don't do it. And don't defend it by saying it's okay because feminists do it.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 09:44 PM
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Here's another example
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:55 PM
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It is certainly construed that way by too many men. Do I think that's the intention? No. But I do think that's the result which is why changing the terminology to something more gender neutral would be better. Like 'toxic gender role'. And there have been some good studies about concepts of toxic masculinity having negative effects on young men.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:41 PM
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Here's someone justifying attacking an entire gender because of one woman...because feminists do it Here I could find lots more examples. These 2 were just today.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:19 PM
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"Fuck off. This is exactly what feminist do. Why bitch at us for it? No one condemns then. No one does this virtue signaling or tone policing to them." This is a comment literally on this post justifying the post in question because feminists do it.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:17 PM
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'Feminists do it so we can too' has been used to justify so much. Sometimes I feel like people just want to be feminism 2.0 but for men. I will never understand hating feminism and then doing all the exact same things feminists do.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:01 PM
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More advocates for mens rights would help men with inequality. If people had faith that the mens rights movement was about Injustice, people would be more open to hearing it. But it seems the overwhelming opinion here is that insulting women comes hand in hand with mens rights which IS EXACTLY what feminists say about the mens rights movement. It's odd to see a situation where feminists and MRAs agree but here we are.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 04:57 PM
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I don't think any resources should be diverted from male murder victims. Admitting something is a problem when it's literally the highest rates in the world is not anti male bias.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 04:08 PM
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Puerto Rico has a rate of women killed by spouses twice as high as the rest of America. It's the highest rate of women killed by partners in the world. Both men and women should be helped, but ignoring these statistics from Puerto Rico and claiming there is no problem with violence against women is naive. https://www.aclu.org/other/failure-police-crimes-domestic-violence-and-sexual-assault-puerto-rico https://www.typeinvestigations.org/investigation/2020/06/30/in-puerto-rico-an-epidemic-of-domes…
/r/MensRights10/05/21 03:26 PM
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I don't understand. You're saying it's okay to attack a gender as a whole because of one person because females do it. Seems like it would be better if no one did it.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:28 PM
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Masculinity and femininity are not toxic. Trying to demonize a gender due to an individuals actions is never okay.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 01:23 PM
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Not sure why you're being downvoted as this is the correct answer as to why some people are choosing this term.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 12:47 PM
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There are lots of excellent women out there. It's possible that you have trouble in the dating world because you clearly dislike women. Women pick up on these things pretty quickly and will dismiss you entirely. How 'shitty' you feel the women are today is not a mens rights issue. The MGTOW crowd simultaneously complaining that women are too easy and also that it's too hard to sleep with women are just looking for reasons to hate women. It's exactly the look mens rights organizations need to sta…
/r/MensRights10/05/21 03:02 AM
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No. I agree with that synopsis of twoX. Anyone with a shred of decency would have left by now.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:16 AM
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Men going there own way. It's a reddit group for people that say they want nothing to do with women to all get together and talk endlessly about how much they dislike women.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 01:49 AM
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You're right about an inability to confirm gender bias here. But no one was blaming the man for his negotiation skills. No one blamed him at all. The point was that employers screwing people is not unique to any gender and blaming the employer makes more sense. Because paying someone 40 percent less for the same job is never okay. Regardless of why you chose to do it.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:57 PM
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Removing gender entirely, a world where employers will pay you as little as possible instead of what you deserve for the position is stupid. Negotiation skills shouldn't determine your wage. Your work ethic and quality of work should. Whether or not this is gender related is up for debate, but whether or not it sucks that employers will pay you 40 percent less than a job is worth if you don't negotiate is objectively crappy. For both genders.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:38 PM
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Wtf? You're literally blaming women as a group for violence against women? How is any different than 'I only hit her because she wasn't acting the way I want' This is a great example of something that should be criticized, not upvoted. Wow...
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:35 PM
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So much hate here because she was being paid less than a man. The reaction here was quite different. This is an issue that effects both genders and we should be holding employers accountable. Not telling a woman it's her fault.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:17 PM
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Right, but in a situation where someone is being charged with filing a false police report, the burden of proof is on the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that something never happened. That's why it's very difficult to charge someone with a false accusation.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 04:10 PM
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The post says she put together a strategy to renegotiate her salary with her employer. I don't think she feels crying on the way home is a solution. It sucks that employees cannot rely on employers to pay them fairly. This is a valid problem and I don't understand why people are dismissing it and criticizing someone for dealing with it.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 04:04 PM
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I think the number of shelters should be proportionate to the number of people seeking aid so that everyone seeking aid has access to a shelter. I don't think making shelters 50/50 right now makes sense when so many more women are seeking aid than men. I think making them proportionate while advocating for more males to come forward and seek aid is the correct path. Simply put, men don't often seek aid. That needs to change so that everyone is getting helped. So I think revenue should be applied…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 01:44 PM
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You think its subhuman to wonder if more men would report abuse if they had more resources available to them?
/r/MensRights09/05/21 01:36 PM
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I specifically said I want men to have access to male shelters. I literally said those words.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 01:27 PM
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"Even after serving time for his abuse, Rose's ex tracked her down via Instagram. My daughter, who first received the first message, came out of her bed screaming…absolutely screaming… shaking. Rose's ex has threatened to kill her multiple times, and he is now out of jail." If your reaction to this is to blame women, you may need to reevaluate your stance. Woman cannot justify misandry by saying misogyny is rampant. So men should not justify misogyny by blaming misandry on social media. Hate com…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:17 PM
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I agree with that in situations where the truth is unknown either way. Proving something never happened is incredibly difficult in court. But in a situation like this where there is hard physical evidence of a complex web of lies, punishment will not scare off real victims. Only the people that are lying. So I'm glad she's serving time.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:05 PM
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She was sentenced to 3 years in jail.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:01 PM
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Japan is 13th in quality of life. America is 17th. America should want to be the next Japan. Who is the group of spoiled adult children and what do we need to do to them to protect future generations? This is a very vague comment that I'm skeptical you can explain without sounding like a crazy person.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:43 AM
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Well, the bill in question is about funding. Not determining what counts and doesn't count as domestic abuse. But they did vocally say they don't want a gender neutral response which is a dumb way to say that. They should be asking for a 'proportional response' to the number of victims seeking help. If its 80/20, or 50/50, or 60/40 the funding should be distributed proportionally. Though I would like to see more funding in initiatives to get men reporting incidents so that they can access more f…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 04:11 PM
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Controversial opinion, but im fine with women only domestic shelters. As long as men have access to male only domestic shelters. People coming from abusive relationships are vulnerable and might not make the best choices when surrounded by the opposite sex. Keeping them separate may make both parties feel safer. The tricky part is determining the number of shelters that men need and women need. Men often dont report abuse and when there are no shelters available and they aren't helped, men don't…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 03:21 PM
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Truth. And men and women should understand these behaviours are manipulative and they shouldn't engage in them. Or succumb to them. Thats why it's helpful to talk about them.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 12:44 PM
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And only hire other men? And only promote men? And only value male input at work? And only care about the thoughts and feelings of other men? This is just an attempt to create more hate and distrust. Take advantage of the frustration from young men to polarize and radicalize. It's a great recruitment tool for extremism but these angry voices should be condemned. Not upvoted. This is a mirror image of the hateful voices in feminism. It is not acceptable.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 12:34 PM
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Right but NO ONE is suggesting that sex you consented to and then regret is rape. There are probably women that lie and screw them, but not one person is suggesting that sex you regret should be considered rape. People MIGHT be saying that if you regret it, there may have been some underhanded behaviours to engage in sex. Like getting someone drunk, making them feel bad, or coercion in other ways. But that's not rape. It's shitty behaviour and people NEED to be talking about that stuff. It helps…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 11:48 AM
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Then let's look at another similar scenario. A man asks his girlfriend to have sex. She says no. He asks again. She says no. He asks a third time and maybe even acts hurt. She gives in. This isn't rape. This is very similar to the MeToo story that came out against Aziz Ansari. And no one was saying he belongs in jail because he was a rapist. People were just saying its a shitty tactic and it's manipulative and people shouldn't do it. Which I agree with. The meToo movement was about bad behaviour…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 11:32 AM
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These are fair points. I will have a read later. Appreciate the leg work to find the judges decision.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 11:16 PM
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None of those details were in the article. It's possible he was able to operate a motor vehicle and she was laying face down in her own puke. That's why there isn't enough for a decision here.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 10:01 PM
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Right. Anyone sleeping with someone too drunk to consent should be punished. But there's nothing in the article to suggest the man was too drunk to consent. In fact, the judge ruled that he was coherent enough that he should have known what he was doing was assault.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 09:46 PM
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Fair. For clairvoyance, I mentioned the magistrate and realized you questioned the prosecutors ability to stay neutral as well so I thought that should be included.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 08:55 PM
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Under no circumstance should a police officer be videotaping a woman blowing him after she called the police for help. The courts can decide if it was rape but i can confirm it is disgusting behaviour from someone sworn to serve and protect. Posting this and claiming it's a false accusation when there was video evidence submitted by the police is a bold move. Commenting that the magistrate and prosecution are women as though women are unable to be impartial is also in bad taste.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 08:35 PM
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There isn't much to protest. A judge ruled that this man was coherent enough that he should have known better than to have sex with someone that was clearly too drunk to consent. Protesting a result without knowing any of the details of a case seems foolish. I think that's why most men won't be protesting. What about this makes you angry?
/r/MensRights07/05/21 06:46 PM
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They ruled that the boy in question should have reasonably known that the woman was too drunk to consent. Are you saying he was too drunk to consent as well? Because that wasn't mentioned in the article. If you have a few beers and have sex, that's not a problem. If you have sex with someone that can't walk, that's rape. This concept is unrelated to gender and that's exactly how the law should be enforced. Evenly among genders and determining how intoxicated everyone was to determine guilt if an…
/r/MensRights07/05/21 04:54 PM
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Im not sure that's true. I don't believe feminists want men to cross the street in times Square at rush hour so they feel safe. And if they do want that...they are insane. And most women really aren't insane in my experience.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 02:28 PM
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I think if I saw Ronda Rousey coming at me, being a bit nervous makes sense then too. I think fear comes from a strength gap. I'm not a particularly large man in stature so I would be more nervous when stronger people are crossing me. For women, that's most men. So I think it may have more to do with physical strength but obviously men have more physical strength so it shifts the conversation to gender pretty quickly. I don't think Ronda rousey is nervous when a short thin guy is walking by her,…
/r/MensRights07/05/21 02:17 PM
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Great question. And I don't know the answer. But crossing the street once a month when I'm approaching a single person at night doesn't seem apocalyptic to me. So wherever the bar lands, its past that point.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 01:10 PM
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Men being 3 times more likely to be killed and being more justified in being nervous at night IS a mens issues. One I made clear I care about. Seems to me I'm the only one that wants to make men feel more safe at night and I'm getting heavily downvoted for suggesting this is a mens issue as well.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 12:55 PM
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It makes me uncomfortable to know that I'm scaring a woman. Or a man for that matter. Even in a situation where they are overreacting. I wouldn't want to make a man or woman feel uncomfortable so I tend to try to avoid doing that. I cross the street when I see a anyone coming because no one likes crossing paths with someone alone at night. It's intimidating. Men are 3 times more likely to be killed so men are completely justified in being uncomfortable passing strangers as well. I think when it'…
/r/MensRights07/05/21 12:07 PM
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True. If it was named differently, more people would be focused on solutions instead of getting defensive and denying any issues exist. So I wish it was named differently.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 12:17 AM
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Regardless of what you want to call it, men and women alike can push men into gender roles they don't want. Taking a job that's killing you for more money. Not getting prostate exams Feeling like your worth is tied to your income Working out to the point that you hurt yourself Feeling worthless because you are a Virgin Not having healthy outlets for emotions because you feel society tells you to bottle up those emotions These are all traits felt by men because of gender roles pushed on them by s…
/r/MensRights06/05/21 11:26 PM
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I think most people don't want discussion. Just to be told they are right and never think about it again. But the idea that rape culture means society is okay with rape is just so blatantly and obviously false and yet people are upvoting away while downvoting any more reasonable conversations about it.
/r/MensRights06/05/21 01:52 PM
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You're misunderstanding what rape culture is. Rape culture is not that people accept rape. Rape is a heinous crime that the vast majority of population finds repulsive. However there are situations that society deems acceptable that are not acceptable. Thats rape culture. In the movie superbad, the entire plot was 2 boys thinking they can get girls drunk enough to sleep with them when they otherwise wouldn't. Donald Trump said when you are rich, you can grab women by the pussy. He was subsequent…
/r/MensRights06/05/21 01:23 PM
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No. But It's patronizing and condescending. And obnoxious to tell people how to use their face.
/r/MensRights06/05/21 02:39 AM
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Sigh. Anyone can look Into my post history and see you are lying. So what's the point?
/r/MensRights05/05/21 05:01 PM
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Anyone who looks at my post history will see I have said nothing hateful or misandrist. Though I do say things people don't like.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 04:48 PM
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None of my comments have ever been hateful. Ever. Comparing me to Hitler seems a little bit extreme but shows a clear inability to view things rationally.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 04:48 PM
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Financial abuse does not require physical strength over your partner. Disqualifying abuse because the abuser was physically weaker is exactly what is done to men in society and this is just reinforcing that idea.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 03:33 PM
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Shutting yourself off from any opposing viewpoints is easier. But it creates echochambers that don't foster any growth.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 03:25 PM
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Maybe. But I'm not sure either of us are qualified to say how 'feminists' see it. I subscribe to a lot of aspects of feminism, and that's how I see it. But I'm aware I can't speak generally about everyone that is a feminist. Although I don't believe anyone else can either.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 02:56 PM
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Not to mention the irony of categorizing behaviour women proudly do every day as a disorder when men do it. This is just saying 'women can't fundraise for domestic violence because there are other women that are bad people' You must realize how foolish that is. This woman does not speak for all women and she shouldn't stop helping people because you have issues with women. Hysterical emotional overreacting is literally a trade by women. Are you accusing this woman of hysterical emotional overrea…
/r/MensRights05/05/21 02:54 PM
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You can believe the patriarchy exists without thinking men are actively oppressing women. In fact, that's what most people in the west think. Wikipedia says the patriarchy is " a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property." It says nothing about how men are to blame as a prerequisite to existing. Men holding more power doesn't mean men are oppressing women. It means women haven't comple…
/r/MensRights05/05/21 02:30 PM
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The article said she's doing it to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for people that are stuck in situations like hers. She's already started a non profit charity to help people like her and now she wants to raise money and awareness to tell people that they don't need to put up with emotional, financial, or physical abuse. I think she's doing it because she genuinely wants to help people. Not for attention.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 01:38 PM
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A woman suffered from domestic abuse and she is now dedicating time to raise money and awareness to help other people suffering from abuse. She has already started a program to get those suffering from abuse to speak with therapists to try and help people and now she wants even more people to know that help is available. She also intends to raise $200,000 for those suffering from abuse. She's doing something good here so I don't really see any reason to criticize someone trying to help people su…
/r/MensRights05/05/21 12:37 PM
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Yes. But do you understand it now?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 10:08 PM
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There isn't a way. There's no way to make yourself 100 percent safe. You just do the best you can to be as safe as possible. But certainly illegal videotapes are a bad idea. That may land you in jail before anything else.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 10:00 PM
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So you now understand that the article was referring to jobs that wouldn't be returning right? You understand why women's jobs are more at risk? You get it now? Because you needed it explained so I was trying to help.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:54 PM
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Im not complaining at all. I'm advising not to commit crimes. There's no reason to be so hostile.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:51 PM
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There is no ironclad way to stop yourself from being convicted of murder or any other crime. So it doesn't exist here either. My suggestion is to be respectful, do the best you can, and don't bang drunk women.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 05:49 PM
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First off, I'm not a her. Second off, did you have an addition to the conversation? Or a critique of what I said? Do you understand the article a bit more? Or were you not interested in actually conversing so much as trying to be childish and contrary.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 05:46 PM
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You think raising female education rates from 39 to the same level as men is 'selective privilege'? You think equality at 45 percent is selective privilege of women? That's kind of strange. But Google it yourself man, you're smart enough. Educating women creates more educated children, healthier populations, and less illnesses within the family. I assure you, having an educated mother is better for families than having an uneducated one. Thats common sense. So getting that 39 percent figure to 4…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 04:23 PM
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Advising people not to commit a crime is good advice. Particularly in this situation where people seem unclear on the matter. Women in your bedroom have a reasonable assumption of privacy and recording them in any way is a crime. One deemed voyeurism based on what is about to happen. The law should be better, but breaking other laws is a terrible way to go and people should be aware of the risks associated there as well.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 04:12 PM
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I don't think you should celebrate women losing their jobs. That sounds dark.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 03:23 PM
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The number of people voting 'yes' to a LITERAL crime is too Damn high.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 03:21 PM
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Bad idea
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:46 PM
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The article wasn't about jobs losses. It was about jobs that won't come back. The assumptions from said economists are male jobs will return and money will be put into infrastructure and construction. Females jobs however were seen differently. "When the furlough scheme ends, we expect to see employers in hospitality, retail, and other customer service industries lay off large numbers of employees. Because of the clustering of women in these sectors, we fear that redundancy rates of women will i…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:35 PM
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Can do friend. Women work more in the service industry so they live and breathe with that industry. They also are more likely to work part time jobs which have less opportunity to work from home. Female employment has gone up or down dramatically depending on a countries rules for the service industry. Thats why certain times, women are devastated. And other times, men are hit worse. Overall, we haven't determined the result of covid because we are still in the middle of it. Some countries on lo…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:28 PM
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If it's any consellation, I've sent over some links for you to prove my point. I just wasn't on reddit for a bit. And someone like you, I don't mind backing up my claims. So I did just that. That said, educating young people is a pretty obvious benefit to a society. That one seemed pretty common sense so I'm unsure why I would need to prove that. Not to mention typing 'effect of female education on society' into Google is very easy and I'm sure you're capable of it. So it seemed more like an att…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:17 PM
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This has multiple sources for you to investigate. Though I'm not sure if you actually want to research. Educating people obviously has a positive effect on a country. Thats common sense. https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=DL8uSGzj8YIC&oi=fnd&pg=PR12&dq=King,+Elizabeth+M.,+and+M.+Anne+Hill.+Women%27s+education+in+developing+countries+barriers,+benefits,+and+policies&ots=S24BzlCMM-&sig=L7CSB9ykslgR69DbIMTIN6mKXq4 http://wber.oxfordjournals.org/content/16/3/345.full.pdf+html
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:11 PM
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Wow. That escalated quickly.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:15 AM
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I don't understand. Is that a sandwich joke? Like I should make you a sandwich? Because if so, fine. But cheese and pickle? That's a travesty.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 12:29 AM
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That's fine. But are you evading the question or do you have an answer?
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:25 PM
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So you would be against it? Or no? Or not answering? Up to you, I'm curious if that '6 percent isn't a big deal' carries to male issues.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:21 PM
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53 percent of sexual assault victims in India are men. Thats 6 percent more than female. Does that mean you'd be against an initiative to combat sexual assaults of young males because 6 percent isn't important? And they should just target all people? Because I'd be all for a program like that. 6 percent is a lot of people. And proves there are social factors at work.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:18 PM
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I don't hate men. I like initiatives that educate women in developing nations because time and time again that is proven to greatly help the entire population. I think everyone agrees that educating the youth is important and If millions of girls were missing out, just because they are girls...that problem needs to be addressed doesn't it?
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:03 PM
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Yes. Those are all problems that should be dealt with as soon as possible. But they decided to tackle the issue of gender disparity in education. Which is also a very big deal. Hopefully after making some progress here, the UN can look to solving some of the other issues you mentioned. But I'd still say money into helping those that aren't getting an education is not money wasted. Everyone deserves an education, regardless of gender. And there are millions and millions more girls than boys that …
/r/MensRights03/05/21 10:13 PM
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Good, then we agree that this is a phenomenal attempt by the G7 nations to increase the quality of life in 3rd world nations. I apologize if my post made you feel I was suggesting otherwise.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 08:53 PM
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Educating women in 3rd world countries is one of the best ways to raise the quality of life for everyone and is a VERY worthy endeavor. There's no reason to be against educating women in developing nations as they often lag behind their male counterparts. Especially in rural areas.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 08:19 PM
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I'm not for diverting resources from anyone. I've made that clear. I'm for adding resources to make things even. Why do you go SO far out of your way to defend a post joking about assaulting women? We all know you won't answer this, but I'm very curious if you think its acceptable to joke about permanently disfiguring women? You understand that's not appropriate right?
/r/MensRights03/05/21 04:02 PM
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You're misunderstanding on purpose. I support ADDING to what men get. Not taking it away from women. No one supports taking supports away from women.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 03:37 PM
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Not sure. I guess a government project that isn't as important as saving lives. I think the government should have more mens health supports as well but I wouldn't protest those and say they are 'taking away from female health supports'. That logic is heavily flawed. I really don't understand the hostility here just because I called someone out on joking about assaulting women.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:46 PM
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Right. And Gillette only encouraged these traits in men, not women. Hopefully someone else steps up and encourages these traits in women. But doesn't that mean the Gillette commercial was a positive thing, we just need someone else to distribute it to the other gender? Or was the Gillette commercial a bad thing, and no gender should be encouraged to be better? I'd argue the first. But most seem to just be mad at Gillette.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:31 PM
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The peurto Rico government DID NOT say they would be removing supports from male victims. Just that they would be adding supports for female victims. And as I said, I am always for adding supports for victims. Isn't everyone for adding more supports for victims? Peurto Rico has one of the highest number of domestic murders per capita in the world and I'm a bad guy for supporting an initiative to stop that? I can't understand that logic at all.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:25 PM
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It is a bit gendered in how it's unidirectional. Thats a fair point. But I think protective behaviour in men is akin to empathetic and nurturing behaviour in women. Its a trait that should be celebrated as a core trait of the gender in our society. So maybe men are pushed harder to be defensive. And maybe women are pushed harder to be nurturing. I guess you have to decide if that's a problem or not. They are both positive traits so perhaps both genders should be pushed to be both protective and …
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:12 PM
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I've never argued that resources should be diverted from anyone. I think all victims should have more resources available to them, regardless of gender. I also think jokes about violent and horrible attacks on any gender are not okay. Though I seem to be alone in that idea as the downvotes would suggest.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:08 PM
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I guess I just don't think jokes about attacking women are all that funny. But you're welcome to explain the nuance that makes this acceptable.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 01:29 PM
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Not okay. https://www.rfi.fr/en/podcasts/international-report/20201023-l Edit: click this link and look at the first image. Ask yourself if joking about these attacks is acceptable. More people NEED to be calling this out. Not downvoting me because I don't like joking about permanently disfiguring someone.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 01:06 PM
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The best a man can get, is to protect everyone. Being a protector has been a core trait of masculinity since the dawn of time. There was a man protecting a child from bullies in that, there was a man protecting a child from boys having a fight as well. But yes, that includes protecting women. And the commercial did not say that every incident is the fault of all men. I don't know why so many people read into it that way. As your post described, there are 3 archetypes. They are saying one is doin…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:32 AM
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I think this was a far better analysis of the Gillette commercial than than typical 'they hate men' chant you tend to see. But Gillette's tagine was always 'the best a man can get'. They had many commercials of how good looking men will be clean shaven, they'll get lots of girls, blah blah blah. At a certain point though, one has to wonder if that's what it means to be the best a man can get. Are the muscled abs on a man shaving an example of the best a man can get? Is a man with a model wife an…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:01 AM
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'Pussy mod'? How in the same sentence do you attack someone's masculinity and claim to be for mens rights? Channel that anger somewhere else. Pretending to support men while attacking someone's identity as a man is not a good look.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 04:51 AM
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Because I told someone how to read statistics correctly...I support rape? That doesn't seem strange to say? I've said many things that can be criticized or disagreed with...but such an outlandish attack with such little merit just seems childish. Be better than that.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 04:46 AM
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This guy seems to like me, but there are other people that might not be as polite.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 04:44 AM
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True. You'd be surprised how many people are willing to make personal attacks.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 04:07 AM
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But they don't want those jobs. We can't possibly know if they are being excluded as women aren't applying for those jobs. It's not like you can force women to work jobs they don't want just to push equality.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 12:33 AM
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Mens rights is focused on equality isn't it? Does that mean Mens rights activists need to be supporting areas females do not have equality? No. Obviously not. Feminists can target women's rights and MRAs can target Mens rights. This is perfectly acceptable.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 12:32 AM
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Why would feminists be vocal about an issue that is completely unrelated to women's rights? Edit: I thought it was a pretty fair question...but I guess attacking me takes less effort than answering.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 11:25 PM
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Did you create an account just to yell at me? That's actually kind of sad.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 11:25 PM
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Rape of men is made to penetrate. A figure included in 'other sexual violence'. Sexual violence against women is the women raped, plus the women victimized by other sexual violence For men, sexual violence includes those that are raped.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 03:46 PM
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Because rape counts as sexual violence and rape isn't included in the 6.6 figure.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 03:36 PM
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Forces to penetrate and rape are similar numbers. But Rate of sexual violence is actually 7.9 million to 6 million. Rape plus other sexual violence compared to just other sexual violence in men (which includes made to penetrate stats) Which means women are 31 percent more likely to experience sexual violence. This is much lower than most would anticipate, but calling it even doesn't make sense. Sexual coercion seems to be the area that women are much more likely to be victims of sexual violence.…
/r/MensRights02/05/21 02:54 PM
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The article you linked to says that women are twice as likely to experience sexual violence. Thats no where near equal. This was completely gender neutral and included sexual coercion and made to penetrate. Is there a different part that says sexual assault is equal? "Nearly 1 in 2 women (44.6%) and 1 in 5 men (22.2%) experienced sexual violence victimization other than rape at some point in their lives (Tables 2.1 and 2.2). This equates to more than 53 million women and more than 25 million men…
/r/MensRights02/05/21 01:39 PM
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I've never posted in or been banned from the egalitarianism subreddit. I see no reason to lie about that. That's really strange.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 10:05 PM
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You're welcome to check my post history. I've done none of those things and I can post on all the major mens subs. But I prefer this one as it's more active than most.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 09:16 PM
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I disagree. I feel I care more about male struggles than most. That's why I'm here and that's why I don't want to let this group become mindless feminism bashing or a mirror image of feminism. And you may dislike my opinions but I have always and will always be respectful. I'd appreciate the same courtesy.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 07:40 PM
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If you are inherently anti feminist, using 'feminists do it' as a justification is not okay. It's a fast track to being exactly like feminism. It also detracts from real issues and shift attention to 'us versus them' instead of 'us versus a biased society'. I think 'toxic gender roles' is a far less targeted descriptor and doesn't imply there is something inherently wrong with either gender. Too often it just becomes a war of words where women blame toxic masculinity for rape jokes and domestic …
/r/MensRights01/05/21 06:11 PM
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I have not once attacked masculinity. I have never argued any trait inherent to masculinity is negative. Conversely you've argued multiple traits that are core feminine traits that are incredibly negative traits.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 04:10 PM
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You seem very comfortable attacking femininity for someone that is defensive about people attacking masculinity.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 04:06 PM
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I don't think a woman who was raped takes any solace in the fact that what happened to her was illegal.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 04:01 PM
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I see. So you are saying its okay for men to treat all the as false accusers that want to ruin their life. But not okay for women to be scared of all men that could physically rape them. And the reason for that, is feminists. It's a bit convoluted but I think it does highlight the fear some men have. I've never been afraid of false allegations but that doesn't mean I'm immune.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:49 PM
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And honestly, many women DO feel as though taking advantage of men is a core trait of femininity. Do you have anything to back this up?
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:45 PM
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But just because women have power, doesn't mean they will use it against you. That's like a woman being afraid of all men and treating them like rapists, just because they have the physical strength to rape them.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:37 PM
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Violence sells more papers. So yes, the media will lean harder on violent aspects of toxic masculinity. 'Man doesn't go to doctor and doesn't know anything is wrong' isnt the best headline. And I don't love gendering the term myself. 'Toxic gender role' sounds a lot less critical of both genders.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:36 PM
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Women can't have aversion to doing something because of gender roles, because there barely are any for them. You honestly don't think there are gender expectations on women? Really? 'Feminists' can call whatever they want toxic masculinity. I can't possibly tell you every feminist that ever said anything is correct. Feminists say stupid things all the damn time. Except, men don't do "toxic masculinity" because something is for women, but because it's for men. Staying stoic and tough, is for men.…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:34 PM
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Do you want to be safe from feminism though? Feminism isn't accusing you of sexual assault at work. Feminism isn't doing less work than you in the office and getting paid the same. Feminists aren't joining girl scouts, it's just children. Feminists aren't getting promotions over you. You're describing women. Not Feminists. It's women you seem like you want to avoid. The women in your office doing less work, the children in boy scouts, the women being promoted instead of you. All may never have b…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:25 PM
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Women don't starve themselves because "muh gender roles," it's usually for looks. And women often tie their looks to their worth. Which could be considered toxic femininity as looks are important, but hurting yourself to achieve a certain look is when it becomes toxic. If a man makes rape jokes, it's toxic masculinity (at least according to feminists) I wouldn't argue rape jokes are toxic masculinity. Disgusting and inappropriate, but I wouldn't blame any sense of 'masculinity' for that behaviou…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:14 PM
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Anything men do in an attempt to act 'masculine' that ends up hurting them. This could be refusing to go to the doctor but it could also be trying to lift too many weights to get that perfect body. It could be refusing to talk about emotions because you feel emotions are for girls and it could be working yourself into an early grave because you feel how much money you makes determines how much of a man you are. All examples of trying to be 'manly' but taking it too far. All good traits to see in…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:04 PM
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The comment is derived from the fact that the term toxic masculinity has been twisted to essentially mean any wrong doing by or towards any gender without taking any other factors into consideration No one with an iota of intelligence views toxic masculinity this way.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:38 PM
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If you can't even work with women, you may need to seek therapy. But if you don't marry or date women, you don't need to worry about family court or metoo laws. Why would you?
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:36 PM
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At 20 to 30, women make more. Some articles have suggested as much. At 30 it turns around. Likely to due women having children. I'd wonder how women without children compare to men with. Women may earn more there. Either way, men are far more successful in life. Assuming you evaluate success by career and money. That's clear.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:27 PM
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I think you could have a perfectly balanced life without women. Women are not not integral part of existing. But I think the idea that the whole world is out to get you, youre oppressed, and you can't succeed due to a society that favours the other gender is the EXACT same dogma that feminism pushes. Just in reverse.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 02:25 PM
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You could die of cancer at any point too. Men are more successful than women in today's society. That's an empirical fact. Even with all the disadvantages men face. So if the game is rigged, men are still winning in spite of that. And you can too if you're willing to push past some of the fears. I'd definitely say surrounding yourself with positive people would be a big start. The internet can be very doom and gloom when it comes to mens rights but the reality is most men are doing fine.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 01:54 PM
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Giving up because something is hard is not great advice. There are hundreds of millions of happily married men with successful careers. It can seem like the world is against you because you are a man, but the reality is men are strong, persistent, adaptable, and creative enough to still be finding success in this world. Don't let anger and pain on the internet scare you from living the life you want.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 01:42 PM
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I don't understand the comment. If a man stops eating big meals because he feels eating big meals is only for women, that would be toxic masculinity. If a woman stops eating big meals because she feels eating big meals is only for men, that would be toxic femininity. If gender roles are so extreme, that you act against your interests, that's when it becomes toxic. Regardless of your gender. It's a definition of gender toxicity that is completely gender neutral which I haven't seen before so I fo…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 12:45 PM
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"Sexism is focused on robbing women of status and rights; toxic femininity is about defining womanhood so shallowly that a woman feels de-gendered by basic human acts or neutral preferences." This is an excellent example of toxic gender roles that can be evenly applied to both genders. Any man or woman that feels 'de-gendered' by doing something they want to do, is displaying toxic gender roles. Woman not eating a solid meal on a date or men not reporting an illness to the doctor are both excell…
/r/MensRights01/05/21 12:33 PM
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This is a fantastic source of information laid out in a very simplistic way. I find it frustrating that it has 1 tenth the upvotes as an article about amber heards dog.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 12:01 PM
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Feminists should be more critical of the mistakes feminism makes. That's why the mens rights movement needs people to be critical when mistakes are made. I've continued to be harassed and called names for pointing out those mistakes. Right up to the point where people post pointed articles on multiple subreddits complaining about my post history that is always respectful and open to discussion.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 03:08 AM
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90% of these issues can be solved by respecting personal boundaries and asking for consent. Teaching the importance of adhering to those concepts will make men and women safer in society.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 12:52 AM
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You can fight to take money away from breast cancer research if you want. I won't stop you. I just think it's better to encourage people to donate to prostate cancer rather than actively trying to get less people to donate to breast cancer.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 05:29 PM
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I hope charities fighting breast cancer get more donations this year because they do fantastic work. That doesn't make me biased. I hope prostate cancer charities get more this year too. There's no bias there.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 03:33 PM
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Wanting more resources for female specific cancer isn't a problem. I donate to run for the cure each year. Charities like that aren't taking anything away from prostate cancer research. Viewing things in the way is counterproductive. Blaming feminists for things they have nothing to do with while making outrageous claims that feminists will protest prostate cancer developments is dumb. It seems like people trying to paint feminism as a catch all bad guy and blame them for everything. Pointing fi…
/r/MensRights30/04/21 01:01 PM
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This is a big step in mens health that has nothing to do with feminism. But it seems very important to some people to force feminism into every conversation. It's exactly like feminists with the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 12:23 PM
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100 years ago, women were treated like pets. They had no independence and were laughed it if they wanted to try and support themselves. It may have been a more comfortable life than a man's. But just like you wouldn't want to be 100 percent relaint on someone now, women didn't want it then. Men had far more ability to shape the life they wanted than women did. Who had no control over the trajectory of their life. Saying 'women didn't have it that bad' does nothing to further mens rights. It just…
/r/MensRights29/04/21 10:33 PM
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Women typically don't like being approached in situations that aren't designed for meeting people. There's no 'good way' to talk to someone that likely doesn't want to talk to you. Better to try meeting people in different circumstances than to ask a bunch of women how to approach them when the majority do not want to be approached.
/r/MensRights29/04/21 07:51 PM
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Feminism is a constant bombardment of how men are bad and women are victims to really drill into the heads of followers that women are victims. It reinforces the idea that women need to fear men and society is out to get them So to counter that, mens rights activists constantly bombard each other with false rape allegations, female murderers, and articles from twoX to convince men that MEN are the victims of society. And they need to go 'MGTOW' and fear women. It is exactly a mirror image of fem…
/r/MensRights29/04/21 01:04 PM
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This is terribly written and very poorly understands what the term white privilege means. It has horrible quotes that make no sense like "If white privilege were a real thing, then white people would have the privilege of being immune to allegations of racism." And "The concept of white privilege assumes that all white people grow up under the same circumstances" The entire thing reads as someone upset at how hard white people have it in today's society when being white won't make your life any …
/r/MensRights28/04/21 12:36 PM
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They took 'we should help guide young men and correct them when they are wrong' to 'we hate you for random undefined reasons'. Many people don't want to discuss mens issues. They just want to read things In a way that they are victimized and then complain about how everyone hates them.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 01:38 PM
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Agreed. Dismissing the role of the father is unacceptable because it is an important role. That's why 'most children are raised by mothers' is not an acceptable statement. Most children are raised by their mothers AND fathers.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 01:07 PM
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It's a fact. Most children are raised in 2 parent households. Saying 'most children are raised by women' is just downplaying the effect fathers have. Most children are raised by mothers AND fathers. I think fathers have a tremendous effect on their children and I don't think I'm gaslighting men by saying this. You seem to not understand what I'm saying.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 01:06 PM
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Most children are raised in a 2 parent household. Suggesting that most kids are raised by their mother is simply dismissing the role of the father in child development.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 10:48 AM
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One of the major biases against men in society is minimizing the role of the father in child development. This is a perfect example of that. Edit: not sure why I'm being downvoted for saying that fathers play an integral role in the development of children. Why would people here be against that?
/r/MensRights27/04/21 10:27 AM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/d1m79c/aita_for_expecting_my_stayathomehusband_to_do/&ved=2ahUKEwjEjZC5xpzwAhVCip4KHfV-AaIQrAIoAHoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0RK_pqp0niI8TEhFZ3N2SJ&cshid=1619462306948 Many people did suggest the husband may be suffering from depression. Including the most upvoted comment. Though some people were dicks about it too. Always a mixed bag with these things.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 06:39 PM
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You can do it. No one is going to haul you to the gulag. But women who do this with mens issues and men who do this with women's issues are both being petty. So just be prepared to be called petty for doing this. And saying it's okay because it's revenge for when some other woman did it to you isn't a great justification. It's like saying if feminists can oppress men, I should be allowed to oppress women. Its being part of the problem and it doesn't help.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 03:44 PM
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It's an important cause and deserves attention. But bringing it up in response to female issues is a bad idea People hate that. It seems very 'what about me' when someone is dealing with an issue and it comes across as petty and dismissive. So you're not wrong...but your timing isn't great.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 03:15 PM
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Lol. So no examples I guess. I'll look on my own and see if I can find any. I'll let you know what I find in case you're curious.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 01:00 PM
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I just asked for examples. Is that so bad? I'm honestly curious if this is common. So you have the examples? Or is it easier to just be offended I asked?
/r/MensRights26/04/21 12:35 PM
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I do think forcing boys to apologize is dumb. And I'm not speaking for another gender. I'm a male that has lived with male issues for 35 years. Assuming I'm a woman just because we have a different opinion says a lot though. You seem to view your critics as women for no reason.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 12:31 PM
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I strongly believe rapists and pedophiles can be kicked in the balls. I can't imagine anyone disagrees. That's why I asked for examples that aren't things like that. I in no way said men deserve sexual violence. Stop trying to be offended by everything.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 12:25 PM
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Im not trying to shut down an organization that teaches women about nutrition in thrird world countries, keeps planned parenthood funded, is raising female literacy rates in the middle east, and preaches important things like body positivity and reminds women that they are capable of amazing achievements. I absolutely have the moral high ground.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 12:24 PM
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People here think feminism is a boogeyman in the night that hurts men. The reality is men want their issues to be acknowledged and feminism is an acknowledgement of female issues and it makes most people here jealous. The attention to the issues, the societal sympathy, the leg up in social competition are all things that mens rights activists want and all things feminism has in spades. So people will say feminism is the devil but will openly agree that they want the support structure that femini…
/r/MensRights26/04/21 11:23 AM
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What movie has someone being kicked in the balls that didn't have it coming? I honestly can't think of any. I'm not sure it happens 'constantly' as you're suggesting.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 02:47 AM
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Most of those comments seem constructive and I see almost no hate and vitriol. Some people were apathetic to your issue, but not hateful.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 02:37 AM
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I think the biggest thing that needs to start happening in society is the acknowledgement that men have issues and the encouragement to deal with them rather than repress them. The 'tough guy' trope needs to be eradicated as soon as possible because this leads to mental illness, depression, suicide, and lifelong problems. I think the best thing that individuals can do is just call things out when you see them. Shaming someone for mental illness or attacking someone's masculinity is something tha…
/r/MensRights26/04/21 12:00 AM
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Yes. Women were kept 100 percent reliant on men with no way of securing any individuality, means of their own income, self reliance, or social standing. Almost like you would keep a pet. And that's proof that women had it better than men? I'd much rather control my fate than be relaint on someone else to control my fate. That's why I choose to go to work each day. Let's not pretend women being excluded from working was for their benefit.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 08:40 PM
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How does no one else see the irony of upvoting a post generalizing women on a post complaining about generalizing men?
/r/MensRights25/04/21 07:02 PM
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One of the issues with society is men being told they need to be productive and successful instead of pursuing their passions. This is a good example of that. People should be told to do what they are passionate about. Not what is 'useful' and will make them the most money. A man's worth is not tied to his job or bank account and taking a job you like less because of the money is a common theme in males suffering from depression.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 03:22 PM
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Saying that the mens rights movement shouldn't become self flagellating victims is not concern trolling. It's good advice. 'Lets not be exactly like feminists and SJWs' is not concern trolling. It's good advice. Every time someone is in ANY way critical of any aspect of the MRA movement, everyone gets their claws out right away. Again, exactly the same as feminist dogma. I guess being overly defensive is part of the victim mentality you're so adamantly defending for some reason.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 10:28 AM
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I've seen some things. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/lmtoev/doctors_mistreating_pregnant_men_trans_dads_tell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/MensRights25/04/21 10:14 AM
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Seems like people would rather scream that the sky is falling rather than actually try to help men that are struggling. I guess screaming that you're a victim is easier than helping victims. It's like they took lessons from feminism.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 12:55 AM
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If 25 percent of people are feminists, that means that means based on your math, you could not even meet 1 percent of feminists in a lifetime. Are you tired of people judging feminists when they haven't even met 1 percent of them?
/r/MensRights24/04/21 11:01 AM
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FathersForEquality Australia is posting lists of evil women? How exactly is this related to mens rights or equality within the family courts? Is the plan to just list evil women until people think women are evil? Then the courts will be more fair?
/r/MensRights24/04/21 02:01 AM
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Both men and women are victims of biases within society. Both men and women have issues that they face disproportionately. Both men and women need to be lifted in certain areas to gain equal footing with the other gender. 95% of people believe these statements to be true and actively care about improving things. The other 5% are extreme feminists and extreme MRAs that bicker about who has it worse and get nothing done.
/r/MensRights24/04/21 01:05 AM
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Mentioning the patriarchy isn't blaming men. No man alive today can be blamed for the historical patriarchies In society. And the stereotypical gender roles rooted in the patriarchy absolutely hurt men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 10:35 PM
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This really looks like you edited the post afterwards to make it look like you're the victim. Then started bickering with everyone in the comments so you could accuse them of hating men. This really looks like your need to feel like a victim outweighed your common sense. Lying so you can make feminists look bad is not a great look.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 09:38 PM
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People say it's not anti women here. But instead of just arguing single dads should get more credit (a true fact) you are actively saying single moms should get less credit. Why the hell would you want someone to get less kudos and congratulations? Men gain nothing from that. It just takes from women.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 08:01 PM
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This just reads like someone Attacking moms because you think they get too much credit and you don't get enough. Lines like Was it hard? You bet your saggy mom tits, that it was hard. And Now, go feed your kids something besides left over Mac-n-cheese, clean your filthy houses, and shut up about how hard you have it. Just looks like childish attacks because they think parenting is hard. It'd hard for everyone. And even harder when parents are attacking each other to see who can get more sympathy…
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:35 PM
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I do. Which is why I don't think there should be mandatory service.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:07 PM
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Good decisions are made with a cost benefit analysis built upon facts. Not a overreaction based on fear.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 05:50 PM
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Someone saying swearing off women forever is a big decision and you shouldn't make it lightly is not a 'concern troll'. It's a logical thinker that doesn't think men should be afraid of all relationships en masse just because a subreddit tells them to. Taunting people with different opinions and calling them 'concern trolls' just because they don't think exactly like you is incredibly petty and implies a lack of maturity. If healthy discussion with other men is not something you feel capable of …
/r/MensRights23/04/21 05:13 PM
0

Never leaving your house is safer than leaving your house. It doesn't make it a good decision to be a shut in. Preaching fear is great for manipulating people but being afraid of living life is no way to live.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 05:01 PM
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Because this sub should be about helping men make good decisions. Not stoking fear to the point that they are afraid to play the game. Shutting off aspects of life out of fear is no way to live and people should be warned against it. If you make a calculated decision, so be it. Overreacting to the negativity seen in groups like this can happen so if you are making a lifelong decision. Make sure it is grounded in reality and not simply an overcorrection to society that can be flawed.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 04:13 PM
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Wouldn't it just be easier to get rid of mandatory service rather than trying to push male privilege?
/r/MensRights23/04/21 02:50 PM
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You don't think having male votes count for more than female votes would be problematic? And you think affirmative action is the solution but with men being the beneficiaries? an interesting idea I suppose.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 02:31 PM
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Based on the fact that men have to serve in the military, Which rights would you say men should have in Singapore that women shouldn't?
/r/MensRights23/04/21 02:10 PM
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The top comment on that post was poorly written and it deserved to be called out. Saying 'this was a choice so deal with it' or 'it sucks but men have problems too and women don't care about those' is just being petty and dismissive. There are crappy things men have to deal with and crappy things women have to deal with. Trying to downplay issues of the other gender is dumb. This is the same as men complaining about taking dangerous jobs and women saying 'well it was your choice and 'men don't c…
/r/MensRights23/04/21 10:59 AM
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That you've been radicalized by a documentary that scared you into changing your trajectory in your life. Being afraid of women is no way to live. Most humans are great people. Male and female. Shutting yourself off from life experiences due to fear is not 'red pill'. If that's what you want to do. Do it. But if you wanted something else and a documentary made you change your whole life plan, I would think on it a bit longer.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 10:32 AM
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What has she said that was radical misandry?
/r/MensRights23/04/21 01:37 AM
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The judge explained why he made this ruling. To summarize, he suggested homeless women. Particularly homeless women of colour, faced more danger on the streets. His ruling was explained here. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/LAHomeless-ORDER.pdf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 07:20 PM
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I think she looks quite good, not 10/10 hot but good. She has a boring personality, and brings no value to the table that I can’t get elsewhere. Why do you have a crush on someone that you clearly don't even like?
/r/MensRights22/04/21 12:36 PM
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He was fired for having multiple sexual relationships with fans that he met at work and sending them some pretty aggressive and sexual stuff. This is 100 percent proven information.
/r/MensRights21/04/21 08:56 PM
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Some men were born into greatness, others like myself had greatness thrust upon them. I appreciate your support.
/r/MensRights21/04/21 01:19 PM
2

Arguing that 'toxic femininity' is a criticism of feminism and not femininity is foolish. The term only mentions femininity. If you wanted it to be critical of feminism, you could just say toxic feminism. Why use a term that defines all women instead of just using a term that defines the group you are upset with? And why dig your heels in so hard about how we should normalize a term that suggests femininity is toxic?
/r/MensRights21/04/21 12:48 PM
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So call out feminism. Not femininity. That's a pretty easy switch to make and it makes it clear who you are attacking. Trying to normalize attacking femininity and saying 'no no, it's not sexist because we just mean the BAD women' is EXACTLY what feminists do with toxic masculinity. Why would you want to do exactly what feminists are doing when we feel it is hurtful?
/r/MensRights21/04/21 11:44 AM
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Attacking masculinity as a whole is attacking men. But you feel attacking femininity as a whole is attacking just feminists? This just sounds like you're trying to rationalize sexism by saying 'it's okay because...'. The same thing feminists do defending their sexism. We do not need to normalize the term toxic femininity. The term toxic masculinity has done all kinds of damage so advocating for that same damage to be done in reverse is just revenge based.
/r/MensRights21/04/21 11:26 AM
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We can all agree that the phrase toxic masculinity hurts men. It makes them feel as though their masculinity is a problem. So why are we pushing terms like toxic femininity? We know how hurtful the terminology can be and yet we are okay hurting women with the same terminology? Isn't it a bit hypocritical to say a term is inappropriate and sexist and then use it to get some form of revenge? Shouldn't we all be better than using hateful terms?
/r/MensRights21/04/21 10:56 AM
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I never said who the bigger victims were. Thats just you again reading what you want into a comment so you can be offended.
/r/MensRights20/04/21 01:36 PM
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No. I didn't. And I specifically said that afterwards to clarify for you. I can't imagine you go through life with the same principles. If I said squirrels can climb trees, am I saying no other animal can climb trees? If I say Americans are oppressed by their government, am I saying that all other people are not oppressed by their government? Obviously not. You're just so desperate tk be the victim that you'll read into any comment whatever it takes to be the victim. Get off the internet for a w…
/r/MensRights20/04/21 12:49 PM
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Wait.... so if someone says 'women were oppressed' you take that to mean 'men aren't oppressed'. Holy. How desperate are you to be a victim where you are doing mental gymnastics just to be offended by something. If I said black people had hard lives in the 1800s, it doesn't not mean I'm saying every non black person had an easy life. You must be exhausted from being offended by everything everyone says just by reading it in a way that upsets you.
/r/MensRights20/04/21 12:33 PM
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Who said men weren't oppressed? Both were and continue to be oppressed in many ways. The idea that you conflate women being oppressed with men not being oppressed says a lot. It explains why people get so defensive when someone suggests females faced oppression.
/r/MensRights20/04/21 12:17 PM
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Warren farrel was protested because people find him sexist. Not because people were protesting male issues. No one's out protesting suicide hotlines or homeless shelters. People support those things and those are male issues. And you think the declaration of sentiments was misandrist? Are you serious? It was written in 1848. A tine when women were incredibly oppressed. "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men and women are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with …
/r/MensRights20/04/21 10:51 AM
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It was the most upvoted comment on this post when I said this and it's now 2nd highest. But time will tell I suppose. I'll reserve judgement until such a time. Thats fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/21 01:21 PM
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Yeah. People need to be taught that consent isn't as simple as that. Most men that were made to penetrate were taken advantage of when far too intoxicated to consent. Many women have similar experiences. The fact that you think its as simple as you made it seem is a good indicator that more people should be learning about consent. Edit: people complain that male victims of rape are not taken seriously, and here people are writing off millions of them.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 12:00 PM
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I think feminists should do a better job calling out misandry within feminism. I think most people would feel that would help make a difference for men. And yet here people are saying we shouldn't call out misogyny within the mens rights movement and that calling it out is 'disgusting'. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/21 11:42 AM
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Discussing mens issues has absolutely taken a back seat to complaining about 'feminists' which is conveniently defined as 'any woman saying something I don't like'. Much like MGTOW was designed to be about ignoring women and gets flooded with hateful people until it's just complaining about women non stop. I like a lot of content here but a lot of content is hyperbolic and only looking to divide. Comments that men are treated like slaves or subhuman when that obviously isn't true. It's just an a…
/r/MensRights19/04/21 11:24 AM
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Like by your logic Barack obama has had a harder life than the homeless man I just bought food for. Not true. It means Barack Obama had a harder life than a white person born into his exact same situation. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what privilege is and you keep bringing it back to the idea that white men don't struggle. Which is not true. At all. There are many white men that have very difficult lives. Again, just being defensive because you feel your life wasn't easy. But the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/21 11:06 AM
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Do feminists want that though? Or is that the just villainous representation of feminists that you've constructed to all have a common enemy?
/r/MensRights19/04/21 01:33 AM
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Depends on your definition. If the definition is 'women are excluded from positions of power' it obviously doesn't. If it is 'women are disproportionately excluded from positions of power' then it still does. So pick a definition and you have your answer.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 12:55 AM
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All semantics. The patriarchy absolutely existed and many symptoms of it still remain. Particularly in the form of stereotypical gender roles. Dismantling those gender roles is what feminists want. Ironically, it's also what many mens rights activists want.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 12:33 AM
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Incorrect. The idea that the patriarchy existed and it's roots still remain does not mean that men are actively oppressing women. That's just something defensive people say rather than trying to actually understand what the concept of patriarchy means. It's people just getting their back up and saying 'men are innocent'. Even though the concept of patriarchy isn't blaming men for anything. Society perceptions are a result of society. Blaming individual men makes no sense.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 12:00 AM
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This isn't true. You can absolutely be a feminist and a mens rights activists. Feminists don't think men are the rulers of the world. Just that men have some advantages from the thousands of years of patriarchal societies. That's just turning feminism into a boogeyman so you can convince people the sky is falling.
/r/MensRights18/04/21 10:56 PM
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Just to clarify, you're comparing women in government to sand when you are thirsty? Does that seem like a logical comparison to you?
/r/MensRights18/04/21 10:13 PM
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They aren't. From what I can tell, they are adding more seats to balance the genders in a situation where it is imbalanced. Which means all elected officials still get their seats.
/r/MensRights18/04/21 09:20 PM
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"Through the amendments, which will only come into force if two parties are elected to Parliament, if a gender gets less than 40% of the available seats, a maximum of 12 seats - six on either side of the House, can be added." This is 100 percent gender neutral. Why would a gender neutral law be considered sexism against men?
/r/MensRights18/04/21 08:08 PM
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Oh. That's dumb. White people in western society don't face nearly the adversity black people do. Implying they have equal levels of privilege is naive and ignores tons of societal evidence. There may be a situation in which being black is advantageous. But in 99 percent of situations, life is easier if you are white. If you think white privilege and black privilege exist in anywhere near equal levels, you are ignoring tons of empirical evidence just because you feel attacked. It's an emotional …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 03:55 PM
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You haven't told me what it is yet so I can't tell you if I agree that it exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 03:37 PM
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A list of privileges isn't an attack. A list of female privileges was posted here under a week ago. It was heavily upvoted and I found most of it well done. Despite not always seeing eye to eye with the OP. So if this list is an attack, so was this post. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/mozd4s/examples_of_female_privilege/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share I don't think either is an attack. I think some people just get defensive when confronted with the idea that the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 03:19 PM
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The societal concept of privilege says none of those things. It doesn't mean white people or men don't struggle. It doesn't mean you were born with a 'proverbial silver spoon'. You are way to defensive about an idea that certain people have certain advantages in certain situations. You're rejecting the concept because you think it's an attack on you. It isn't. At all. It's commonly why racists deny that white privilege exists. Because they think it means their life was easy and it wasn't. It's a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 03:03 PM
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Why do you think the admission that some males have advantages in some social situations is being 'lambasted'? Are you lambasting females when you say they have privileges in certain situations? Obviously not. It's not your fault. You did nothing to control this concept. It's just the society you were born into. There's no reason for you to deny it's existence because you feel attacked or 'lambasted' by the mere fact that some advantages might exist for some of the men in society. I can't imagin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 02:27 PM
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It seems your standpoint is if a male privilege doesn't apply to every single man, it doesn't exist. This is incredibly flawed logic. If a person feels white privilege doesn't apply to them, does that mean white privilege doesn't exist? Obviously not. A male privilege does not need to apply to every man for it to be true. It needs to apply to enough men to alter how society functions. Edit: And in regards to rape, you're right. The cdc published a study that based on their definition of rape, me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 01:47 PM
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In the first 10. It's only 5 and 6 that I would want citations on. The rest seem to fit with existing societal perceptions. Your answer for most is 'doesn't help me' but that doesn't mean it isn't true. That would be like saying racism doesn't exist because being white hasn't benefitted you. 7,8, and 10 you say are untrue, and depending on wording thats grey. If rape involves penetration, men are less likely to be raped. Forced to penetrate is far less common than forced penetration. Women are t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 01:26 PM
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I don't really understand the question. I think there was a lot of positive in the meToo movement but I don't want to shame men and I adamantly believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. And I don't think women always have it worse. I specifically said in this comment that men have it worse regarding issues in the home. You seem to be purposefully misrepresenting my comments because I've made you upset with something I have posted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 11:35 AM
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Many of these are true. Some I think could use some citation. We all know men and women each have advantages and disadvantages based on gender roles from the past lingering in society. There are male privileges and female privileges. There are biases against men and their are biases against women. Men face more of these within the home and women face more of these obstacles in the workplace. Coming up with lists just seems like a 'I have it worse' competition to me which is counterproductive and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 11:11 AM
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No. There are many excellent women out there that are worth spending time with. Despite all the doom and gloom from the internet, most people are pretty chill.
/r/MensRights18/04/21 01:00 AM
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I don't understand. You don't think women were oppressed by being largely excluded from the workforce and political sphere? Pretty obvious that is oppressive isn't it?
/r/MensRights17/04/21 01:09 PM
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The ideology that men used to control power, prestige, and money and there are residual effects of that system isn't hateful though. It's logical. So saying everyone that believes that 'thinks very little of men' is absolutely writing off half the population. Probably closer to 3 quarters.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 12:52 PM
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Most feminists have never heard of Mary Koss. I know I hadn't until I spent time on a mens rights subreddit. Feminism has problems. No argument. But writing off half the female population as angry man haters because they self identify as feminists is foolish.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 12:31 PM
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The 'dim view' this leads to is simply clinging to previously existing gender roles. Something a HUGE portion of society is doing. Not specifically men or women. Men uncomfortable with women being their boss are no better or worse than women thinking men should pay for dinner. They are both gender roles that need to die. But I'm not going to say that anyone that believes these gender roles exist has a negative view of men. Or women for that matter. Gender roles from the past is what people are t…
/r/MensRights17/04/21 12:00 PM
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Your saying that just because it benefits men, means they support it. A fact that is not true at all. Your applying macro level sociology to micro level human Interaction and that heavily flawed. If western society benefits white people, does that mean every white person wants to subjugate and control every minority? Obviously not. Suggesting as much would be downright foolish. And here you are making the exact same suggestion but with gender. And the only evidence you seem to have of this, is t…
/r/MensRights17/04/21 11:45 AM
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The above says literally nothing about men. Do you think suggesting a social structure that favours white people says all white people are racist? No. Definitely not. So why would a social system that favours men suggest that all men are sexist? It doesn't. At all. Social structures are reinforced by both genders and they evolve from practices over hundreds of years.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 11:23 AM
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A very small minority of those that identify as feminists hate men. Over half the women in America identify as feminist and the vast majority of those people are perfectly reasonable in their approach to gender and politics. The feminists that hate men...are just people that suck. That's all there is too it. There's no secret conspiracy and no overarching story arch. Some people in a movement just suck. Luckily, most are good people and most self identified feminists care about issues that affec…
/r/MensRights17/04/21 11:08 AM
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Women in position of power are a terrible nightmare. Seems like pretty obvious sexism. There are many very capable women in power today.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 01:12 AM
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You may be comfortable with making sweeping generalizations about genders...but most people feel it is wrong.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 08:46 PM
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Seems like they are blaming established gender norms that make men more likely to own guns and less likely to seek treatment. I think both of those are hard facts to argue with. Traditional gender roles have always hurt men. Mental illness and suicide rates are a symptom of that fact.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 06:04 PM
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Right. But is that any different than saying 'men don't respect women' and then defending it by saying 'I'm sure she didn't mean all men don't respect women' Making statements that encompass an entire gender is a bad idea. Even if afterwards you say ' I didn't mean ALL of that gender'.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 03:47 PM
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Everyone reacts differently when met with an opposing viewpoint. Some engage in rational discussion, some pathetically lash out and call people a troll, an incel, a simp, or a feminazi. Some subreddits are more open to discussion than others. But making general statements like 'this is how women fight' Is just responding with more sexism. So every group has its problems.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 12:45 PM
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All this woman did was politely say she's not interested. You blame feminism for that? Miss the good old days when women did what they were told? Take the hate somewhere else. It's a bad look.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 12:29 PM
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There has been no study that determines discrimination against women doesn't happen in every company. This is a method of punishing those that are caught and those that restrict salary discussions in a contract. Likely because discussing salaries may lead to lawsuits. This law doesn't hurt men. Helps men who are being discriminated against regarding salary, and supports women that are being discriminated against as well. Fighting against discrimination laws and calling them hateful is not what m…
/r/MensRights16/04/21 11:46 AM
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"The Paycheck Fairness Act would increase penalties for violations of a federal law that already prohibits wage discrimination on the basis of sex, enhance prohibitions to prevent retaliation against workers who lodge a discrimination complaint and bans contracts that block employees from sharing their salaries." Which of these do you find to be a problem? Which point is a 'horrific hate law' and a 'complete disgrace of the fundamental concept of fairness'? Did you read the article or just make …
/r/MensRights16/04/21 10:20 AM
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You think there is a lot of sexism against men to call our here? Because I don't see it very often. There's lots in female dating strategy...but I have no interest in reading those posts. I prefer reading about male issues.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:23 PM
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I don't even know what section 498A is... and I have no problem defending #MeToo. Women reporting situations in which they've been assaulted is not anti-men.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:04 PM
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I have never and will never attack men. I just call people out when they say something sexist. I don't think that makes me a feminist. Just a normal human.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 10:36 PM
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I don't know. I get called a feminist troll, feminazi, and simp quite a bit. Some people are less civil than others.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 09:52 PM
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There's nothing that says it was unsolicited. Making stuff up so you can insult me is childish and sad.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 06:16 PM
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There's no indication that they were unsolicited. Making facts up to prove your point is a sign that your point isn't that good.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 01:58 PM
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No. A strawman would be suggesting YOU hold this position. Not saying the 2 positions sound the same to me. If you feel the positions are not the same, you're welcome to inform me why. They just seem identical to me.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 12:46 PM
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A naked picture circulated around her school and you're here saying she didn't learn anything? Pretty sure that's a humiliating and embarrassing ordeal. She's a victim here. Put away your torch and put her fork. He screwed up and he paid a price. Blaming her does nothing but shame someone that's already feeling bad. Also, I didn't see anywhere in the article that says she doesn't even know him. Did you just make up that detail?
/r/MensRights15/04/21 12:31 PM
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This sounds exactly the same to me as 'If you don't want to be raped, don't dress provocatively'. It's a way of blaming the victim and taking responsibility away from the person that did the actual crime.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 12:16 PM
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There are way too many people defending this man's behaviour. Sharing naked pictures of someone without consent is sleazy and saying she is to blame is no different than saying a woman walking home alone is to blame for her assault. Sharing naked pictures without consent is disgusting behaviour. Full stop. Blaming her for trusting someone with her picture is blatant victim blaming. I don't care what gender you are, if you share someone's naked pictures with your classmates, you're scum. And if y…
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:40 AM
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If she shares naked pictures of a man without his consent, she's human garbage and an article saying 'lets blame the victim too' would be stupid. My view is 100 percent consistent roles reversed. Are yours? If a man sends a picture of his genitals to a woman that asked for it and she shows it to everyone saying how small his genitals are...are they co-culpable? Should we be discussing how we need to punish that boy more to teach him a lesson? Blaming the victim is not okay. There's no reason to …
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:17 AM
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So she sent a picture to a man she trusted. And he sent it to a bunch of people. What she did hurts no one, was likely encouraged by the man, and had no ill will. What he did when he shared it with everyone is violated her trust, made her feel cheap, had dozens of people ogling a nude picture of her without consent, and no doubt eroded her reputation at the school. And you think they are co-culpable? Really? The ONLY problem was the picture being leaked to the school. The ONLY reason for that pr…
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:02 AM
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I would say a better lesson would be don't spread naked pictures of teenagers around your school when the picture was meant for one person. Because that's a stupid thing to do. There's no 'entanglement' issue here. He wasn't entangled with this woman at all. It was a girl that liked his friend. He did something crappy and immoral and he paid the price for it. This SHOULD be a warning not to do crappy things to women, not a warning to avoid women. Framing a man's mistake as a woman's flaw is MGTO…
/r/MensRights15/04/21 10:41 AM
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I see. So she's guilty of filing a false report until proven innocent. I see.
/r/MensRights14/04/21 11:21 PM
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Criticizing and poking holes in the story of people saying they are victims will make less victims come forward. It is a terrible idea to try to publicly 'call out' people claiming they are victims because real victims will be scared to come forward.
/r/MensRights14/04/21 10:59 PM
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Some of those comments are blatantly sexist. All we can do is try and call out comments that are sexist so that outsiders see that the majority of the movement is positive and not simply attacking feminism and women.
/r/MensRights14/04/21 07:42 PM
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While the terminology is less than ideal, this article does do a good job of explaining what is meant by toxic masculinity without being insulting to men.
/r/MensRights14/04/21 02:13 PM
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Being courageous enough to act when someone is in trouble is not a bad thing. It should be celebrated. All genders should be celebrated when having courage to fight for what is right.
/r/MensRights14/04/21 11:23 AM
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True. But fear of walking alone at night and fear that you will be sexually assaulted by someone you know are very different things. The point here was that one of the reasons women are more afraid when walking home alone, is the potential for rape by a stranger. Something that happens to men for less often. It's not a competition though. Both genders have higher and lower chances of victimization depending on the situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 03:35 PM
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You think being afraid of walking home alone at night is an unreasonable phobia? Many men feel this same way. Are they unreasonable too? Fear of crime is not unreasonable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 02:27 PM
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I'm not assuming men aren't afraid. I'm assuming men are less afraid. Which has been empirically proven repeatedly. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/sj.2008.13 And I specifically said we shouldn't look down on the many men that are afraid of walking home alone at night. I made that incredibly clear so I don't know why you would accuse me of thinking otherwise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 01:59 PM
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Men are significantly more likely to be assaulted but men are also significantly more likely to be walking alone at night. Since women are afraid of doing that. Simply put, it's unknown if men or women are more likely to be assaulted when walking home alone at night. But does it matter? Is it imperative that we prove men are worse off or women are worse off? Does that put men or women in a stronger position at all? Or is it just an attempt to validate a side of an argument? Women are definitely …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 01:25 PM
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Uhhh...why would you want to be like feminists?
/r/MensRights13/04/21 01:07 PM
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You feel bad for the guy that took off a condom mid sex and may have given a someone HIV or any number of serious diseases? And the fact that he may have consequences for his actions is 'men failing him'? Wtf? This is sexual assault and it should be treated as such. Don't defend the bad men. Defend the good ones.
/r/MensRights13/04/21 11:18 AM
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Those laws were designed to combat discrimination. Methods to boost female education aren't discrimination when females in some areas are 42 percent less likely to get an education and women in general are 20 percent less likely to be literate. https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/gender-disparity-primary-education-experience-india This causes india to rank 142nd in economic opportunity for women. I don't think riding the bus for free is sexist when you can't get a decent job or a decent educ…
/r/MensRights13/04/21 11:03 AM
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You think women feeling they have things worse to start with is inherently problematic? Do you also think men who feel they have things worse to start with are inherently problematic? Are men and women equal and assuming either side has it worse a problem?
/r/MensRights13/04/21 01:40 AM
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Right. Feminists should be judged by their political movement. https://www.humanrightscareers.com/magazine/feminist-organizations/
/r/MensRights13/04/21 12:12 AM
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Right. No one should be judged by a small portion of their group. Men shouldn't be judged by rapists and feminism shouldn't be judged by a 'kill all men' hashtag. Both groups are mostly good people.
/r/MensRights12/04/21 11:36 PM
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Id say that's probably not how the law is designed But the wording of the law is everything. If you tell a woman you are a hockey player and it turns out you play basketball, obviously no one is going to jail. That's not what a law like this is for. The law has to be designed to be reasonable for it to be effective. This would be for catching flagrant predators. Not people who talk shit in a bar. We all want predators to be off the street. If your female boss is blackmailing you into sex...that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 01:42 PM
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Correct. But that doesn't change how the majority of the population views feminism. Which is equal rights for women.
/r/MensRights12/04/21 12:18 PM
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This is a good thing. As of now, sex is either sexual assault, or consensual. It's obvious there is a huge middle ground there which is why so many times women and men don't agree on where the line is. A crime that is based on wilfully misleading the other party is not as serious as sexual assault but also legally declared wrong. Because it is wrong. For example, If a girl purposefully gets a man drunk to sleep with him, we can all agree that's not moral behaviour and that man may end up feeling…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 10:45 AM
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The entire world other then MRA circles defines feminism as wanting equality for women. That's why people often say things like 'people who aren't feminists are weird. I guess you just have to decide who gets to define feminism. The millions of people that identify as feminists... or the people that hate feminism. But 90 percent of people thinking feminism is just about equality for women is exactly why people think MRAs are sexist for attacking feminism. Makes you wonder if that is the stronges…
/r/MensRights12/04/21 10:21 AM
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I'm starting to think you aren't a billionaire. Women voting and gaining legal rights had nothing to do with the great depression and women have been in power in countless countries that are doing just fine. Your issues with women are pretty plain to see.
/r/MensRights11/04/21 04:29 PM
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Income inequality is close to the highest levels since the great depression. If you call that economy 'booming' you're either a billionaire or a fool. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-been-almost-a-100-years-since-the-americas-1-had-so-much-wealth-2019-02-11
/r/MensRights11/04/21 03:57 PM
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Except billionaires control the economy FAR more than middle class families. Billionaires and politicians control the economy. Regardless of their gender.
/r/MensRights11/04/21 02:40 PM
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Men have contributed to the advancement of humans for the last 200 year. Women not so much Wrong. Many women have contributed to the advancement of humans in the last 200 years.
/r/MensRights11/04/21 02:11 PM
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Would it be fair to blame men if you didn't like where the economy was going for the last 200 years? No. So advocating sexism in reverse isn't a great goal. I'll never understand why people that hate feminism so much are so adamant about being exactly the same.
/r/MensRights11/04/21 01:01 PM
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Good. Everyone should tell their story. Many people prefer to do it anonymously because they didn't want to go to the police in the first place. Some because they blame themselves. Some because they feel they won't be taken seriously. And some because they don't really know if what happened to them is criminal assault or just bad behaviour. Many men don't get the support they need after a sexual assault so if coming forward on anonymous platforms like this or reddit helps them cope, im 100 perce…
/r/MensRights11/04/21 11:52 AM
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Agreed. That's why we should be angry at a society that is too quick to label young men as rapists. It's not a reason to try and get less women to report their abuse.
/r/MensRights11/04/21 03:22 AM
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This is why its getting harder and harder to see the difference between mens rights and feminism. Too many people saying 'they do it so we can too'.
/r/MensRights11/04/21 02:13 AM
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Men have always protected women. Always. That needs to stop now. Let the pieces of shit fend for themselves. They have no idea how close they are to a societal backlash against their shit. I'd clarify what you are saying here. It sounds like you're saying women are pieces of shit and that bad things are going to start happening to them because of it.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 11:05 PM
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What does her text have to do with what happened between her and Franco? She's guilty of extortion because she used words you didn't like? Innocent until proven guilty. Being blasted by the court of public opinion because of what people ASSUMED was exactly what happened to Johnny Depp. And here people are defending it again.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 08:52 PM
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Attacking a woman's looks because she came forward with a story of abuse is not 'pro mens rights'. Its blatantly anti women. This is disgusting behaviour. There are enough good MRAs out there to call this behaviour out. I hope to see that.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 08:02 PM
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All these feminists absolutely don't feel like men need to pay. The feminists that make the most waves with sexist articles just get more press. https://www.quora.com/Are-you-a-feminist-and-still-think-that-men-have-to-pay-for-dates Why is this being downvoted? Shouldn't we support the feminists that are not sexist?
/r/MensRights10/04/21 01:00 PM
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I'm supportive of men telling their stories of abuse whenever they feel strong enough to do it. You want men to shut up about their stories of abuse because they didn't speak up right away. I support men far more than you.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:29 PM
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I have said on multiple posts multiple times that I believe in innocent until proven guilty. Now you're just making things up because you got caught being blatantly hateful to men on a male subreddit... Be better man. Male victims deserve support. Not you telling them to shut up about their problems.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:13 PM
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Many victims feel like they are to blame so they don't come forward right away. But if enough people come forward eventually, people like Bill Cosby go to jail. Trying to silence people from telling their story is foolish. Men deserve the right to tell the story of their abuse. Whenever it was. I'm not sure why silencing male victims is your goal here but it's pretty disgusting and it does not help the idea that society doesn't care about male victims. You seem to just be reiterating that.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 11:57 AM
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So if a man is assaulted by his female boss, and he can't prove it. You think he should just 'man up' and 'get over it'? And if he tells anyone about it, he is guilty of defamation?
/r/MensRights10/04/21 11:39 AM
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The idea was that women should speak up about their abuser. Not that people will dislike abusers more. Being vocal about your victimization is the first step. But should men and women come forward even if they don't have any evidence? Even if they know there won't be a conviction? Even if it will damage the reputation of the person that abused them? Or should they suffer in silence if they can't prove their allegations? Should men and women just let their abuser get away with it since they don't…
/r/MensRights10/04/21 11:14 AM
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We can sit here and say make up is dumb...but if a woman stopped wearing it altogether she'd be taken less seriously at work, less likely to get a promotion, and her friends and family would be continually asking her if she was okay. Let's not pretend there's not a societal expectation that exists when it comes to makeup.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 10:58 AM
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Neither of those things are to blame for mens issues. Antiquated societal norms are the cause of men's issues. Not a social structure that favours men or a social movement that favours women.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:54 AM
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Im a troll because I believe we should assume people are innocent until proven guilty? I need to assume this woman is guilty of lying or else I'm I'm troll? I don't understand.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 08:52 PM
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Agreed. So I'm not assuming either party is guilty of anything.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 07:27 PM
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If this woman was sexually assaulted, I imagine that is difficult to live with. Unfortunately we won't ever know the truth. We can speculate that he is guilty of assault. Or speculate that she is guilty of filing a false police report. But neither party has been proven guilty. Edit: not sure why 'innocent until proven guilty' is getting so many downvotes. I guess 'assume the woman is lying' is justice now... Edit: if saying ' the man and the woman should both be treated equally in the eyes of th…
/r/MensRights09/04/21 06:36 PM
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Yeah. I don't much agree with that definition or that line of thinking. It exists in some places. But probably more on a micro scale than macro. I've never much bothered with feminist definitions of things. They often don't align with my view. I prefer more pragmatic definitions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 01:26 PM
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Not really my definition. It's Websters. And it's 'control by men of a disproportionate amount of power. And the west would fit that description because money equates to the vast majority of power and men do hold a disproportionate amount of power thanks to the many billionaires that influence government decisions. Doesn't mean men or women are advantaged by that in any way. Doesnt mean men or women have it better. Probably fairly equal all things considered. But the idea that billionaires hold …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 01:03 PM
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Patriarchy is traditionally defined as men holding power and women being largely excluded from it. While that fits for many countries in many time periods, it definitely does not fit here. Since only women can vote, that gives them far more power than male citizens making this more of a matriarchy. Power is social and political power. If anyone is being excluded from either of those disproportionately, society slides towards matriarchy or patriarchy. It's easier to look at it as a spectrum rathe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 12:26 PM
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So you feel the mens rights is about raising the bar for men. But you also feel raising the bar for just one gender is discrimination? I disagree. I don't think mens rights is discriminatory just because they only focus on raising quality of life for men.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:46 AM
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Isn't that what the mens rights is for? Raising the bar for men? Why would anyone have a problem with that?
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:30 AM
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Women making way more money than 100 years ago IS a huge benefit for men. I for one am glad that men no longer have to be the sole provider and women are engaged in the workforce and politics. Just like women would be better off if mens suicide rates, depression, and homelessness were fixed. Raising the bar for one gender, raises the bar for everyone.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 09:43 AM
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but lets be real women these days try to find a reason to be victimised 4 p much anything Hard to argue this is anything other than direct sexism.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 01:32 AM
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The third one is just listening to your problems and not solving them. They dare have the audacity to not fix your issues? Why did they even ask what the problem was if they weren't going to solve it for you? Kinda seems like you're just looking for reasons to be mad at women.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 01:11 AM
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So to be clear, you feel women that are telling you they want to help; 1, Don't care about your problems 2, Will use your problems against you 3, And won't actually solve your problems. Seems dark.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 12:40 AM
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Lol. You don't seem to understand this at all.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 04:54 PM
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MeToo was a movement that had WAY more women telling their stories of sexual assault. The vast majority of which didn't even mention the assailant by name. I don't understand why so many people dislike a movement that had people being more open about their experiences. I hope more men tell their stories and I wouldn't want to criticize a movement of men opening up. That would be toxic.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 01:08 PM
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I just said what a patriarchy was because someone asked. Not sure why you feel the need to argue about when the last one was. But slavery hasn't existed for centuries and I'm skeptical you feel racism doesn't exist. Residual effects of lots of dated ideas still remain in society today.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 12:53 PM
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If only queens could be rulers. Yeah definitely. That seems pretty obvious. I don't think such a society has ever existed though.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 12:34 PM
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Racism didn't disappear the day Lincoln freed the slaves. Patriarchy didn't disappear the day women started inheriting land and accessing more powerful positions. Sociological process are not that simple.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 11:23 AM
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Wasn't that the goal? So that women aren't being approached when they don't want to be? Aren't most women relieved by the fact that they don't need to politely dismiss men when they are at the post office or grocery store? Or anywhere that they don't want to have an incredibly awkward conversation?
/r/MensRights08/04/21 10:59 AM
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A patriarchy is a system of society in which power is held by males and women have trouble accessing the same levels of social and political power that men do. For example, if the kingship is passed down to male heirs and personal property / land is passed down to male heirs. That would be a prime example of a patriarchy. In today's world, it's more about the residual effects of a world that USED to look like that. Men expecting to be the provider. Women expected to manage the house. All symptom…
/r/MensRights08/04/21 10:44 AM
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The study that found this was a study of 63 sexual assaulters. Extrapolating that to half the world's population is problematic to say the least. Even the article that reported the 44 percent said it was a bit flawed because more men chose not answer that question and thr sample size is very small.
/r/MensRights07/04/21 12:08 PM
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The NISVS tracks sexual violence of both genders through surveys. They even include statistics on being made to lenetrate. They found that 1.6 percent of men had been made to penetrate in their lifetime. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6308.pdf
/r/MensRights07/04/21 11:29 AM
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Education on consent is important. It will help protect men from being falsely accused and it will help protect women from being sexually assaulted. Education on consent isn't 'feminist drivel'. Its a good idea to help protect all young people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/21 03:00 AM
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You're against women telling other people when they have been sexually harassed? That seems kind of strange. Are you against men telling people when they have been sexually assaulted too? Many men speak about their assaults on social media. Are you against that? Do you want to silence them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 09:44 PM
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You don't have to. But I want more women to become allies in mens issues so I'll do the same for female issues. Up to you how you'd like to act.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 05:34 PM
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'No male ally would support a movement such as #MeToo, which just became an excuse to promote a witch hunt against men without evidences. Don’t act like it was just “women telling their assault stories”. The movement is rightfully hated among men’s rights advocates' This comment was upvoted. Let's not pretend meToo received support among male dominated spaces. And I don't want women to be nervous around me if it's an easy fix. I see no reason to be difficult about such a simple request because I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 04:57 PM
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There are definitely not enough women sympathetic to male issues. That couldn't be more clear in society. But I definitely think men have trouble seeing things from a female perspective too. The constant hate of the meToo movement is a good example. Encouraging women to tell their stories of assault has somehow become a bad thing in most male dominated circles. Or men not understanding why they should cross a street so it doesn't feel like they are stalking a woman. That shit is scary to women. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 04:04 PM
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No one is asking you to be an ally to feminists. People are asking you to be an ally to women. You do not have to be a feminist to be an ally to women. Just a good person that tries to understand their perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 03:24 PM
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When people talk about rape culture and how more men need to call out inappropriate behaviour...this is what they are talking about. Defending a man that got drunk and sexually harassed a woman and even making the women feel like she's a bad person because she told her story instead of just quietly ignoring it. This is embarrassing and more men should be calling this behaviour out. It's exactly what the problem is.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 03:08 PM
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His life was ruined because people found out how he acted. You may be okay with that kind of behaviour but most humans think it's disgusting and they are hesitant to hire people that engage in that type of behaviour. Hiring someone that gets drunk and says things like that to women in a ticking time bomb. Of course companies won't hire him. And he can only blame himself. Not the woman that told people what happened.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 02:41 PM
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If other people hearing about what you did is going to ruin your life.. You ruined your life. Not the person saying what you did. Imagine how crazy that is. Like how dare she tell people what happened? How dare she say what this man did instead of shutting up about it and never telling anyone? What kind of society is that? Where we are outraged that people are held accountable for their actions and mad at the person that told people what happened? Trust me man. This isn't a good look.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 02:20 PM
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How is this a false accusation? He made inappropriate remarks and he then apologized for it in text. The lawyers argument was that it wasn't harassment. Not that he didn't do it. The lawyer argued it was just a sleazy attempt at picking her up. Not that he never did it or she was lying. Pro tip: don't tell a coworker she has big breasts and you'll make her orgasm all night. Pro tip: don't side with the dude that's obviously a sleeze bag. Mens rights isn't about defending sleeze bags and calling …
/r/MensRights06/04/21 01:58 PM
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When peoples attitude is 'its not about me so why should I care'. You intervene. Because that's a toxic mentality.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 01:42 PM
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So you agree with the article that we should be allies to women. That's good. I'm glad to know people aren't saying otherwise.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 12:33 PM
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The article isn't about being an ally to rad fems and the kill all men group. As you said, It's about being an ally to women and marginalized people. And OP specifically said we shouldn't care about this and we shouldn't be an ally to people that don't care about men. I think we shouldn't say things that suggest women are the enemy and we shouldn't suggest that its a bad idea to be allies to women.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 12:18 PM
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OP said why should men be allies to people that don't care about them. The article is about being allies to women. So It seems that this person has determined that women don't care about men. Which I really don't think is true.
/r/MensRights06/04/21 12:02 PM
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You don't think women care about men?
/r/MensRights06/04/21 09:54 AM
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And if we could simultaneously move everyone to a new belief structure that has more balanced principles, I'd be on board. The problem is that's really difficult. I guess you have to ask yourself what's easier. Changing ideologies of a deeply rooted organization. Or convincing the millions within that organization to change teams. Both seem pretty insurmountable. But I think it would be easier if more people knew the pitfalls of feminism. I didnt know some of the more troublesome issues with fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 12:58 PM
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True. But how many find that out? And no matter how much you hate feminism, you have to acknowledge that people feel it is responsible for the gains women have made in the last 50 years. Abandoning 50 years of progress due to difference of opinion with some of the ideologies seems like an extreme decision doesn't it? Can you be a catholic that is okay with gay marriage? Yes. Can you be a Muslim that doesn't wear a hijab? Yes. People are free to cling to the what aspects of a belief structure the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 12:29 PM
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Attacking all men and then saying 'not all feminists' would be hypocritical. But by the same line of thinking, would it not be inappropriate and hypocritical to demonize all feminists while complaining that it's not all men? Can you hold all feminists accountable for the minority that are bad while simultaneously saying that all men shouldn't be held accountable for the minority that are bad? Let's be honest, most self identified feminists are just average people that believe in equal opportunit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 11:55 AM
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This post makes it clear that both genders are objectified. Men for their earnings and women for their looks. Clearly there are a lot of residual effects from a society that men were the earners and women were just supposed to look pretty. Hopefully that continues to shift as women become more and more successful in the workforce and we get to a point where people care more about character than looks or money.
/r/MensRights05/04/21 11:38 AM
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....I explicitly said that the social ramifications are very real and toxic. Legal convictions are incredibly rare. That's a fact.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 05:47 PM
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The article specifically states otherwise. "Another important point to note is that, as this was a framed field experiment in which individuals knew they were part of a study, there is potential for subject reactivity or scrutiny bias. " But you're right in that they did not know what they were being studied on. Though they did admit some may have figured it out.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 04:15 PM
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Many people care more about proving their line of thinking is valid rather than what's actually accurate. Unfortunate but seems to be a staple of reddit discussions.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 03:56 PM
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Rainn estimates that 4.6 men will be jailed for every 1000 sexual assaults. Being imprisoned for a sexual assault you DID do is statistically very unlikely. Being imprisoned for a sexual assault you DIDNT do is incredibly unlikely. It's the social ramifications of false accusations that are toxic. More innocent men are in jail for dozens of other crimes compared to sexual assault. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
/r/MensRights04/04/21 02:58 PM
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I don't believe that's true. You can speak about issues that affect certain minorities even if those issues affect other people to some extent as well. You are not obligated to be inclusive of everyone suffering from an issue to discuss it. An article about how men can reduce suicide rates is not biased because women suffer from suicide too. An article about how men can reduce drug addiction is not unfair to women because women suffer from it too. They are just focusing on a particular subset of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/21 02:18 PM
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Assuming 100 percent of these are false with no evidence to support that is no different than assuming 100 percent are true with no evidence to support that. Both are naive and show massive bias in how this situation is viewed.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 12:51 PM
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No. Because that would be results showing THEY themselves are discriminating against women. Literally no one in a workplace wants that. It was not anonymous and they knew they were participating in the study. Not to mention that I don't think those that are for diversity hiring want to make it look like the company they work for is engaging in racist hiring practices. That looks terrible on them.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 12:13 PM
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You think saying sex assault should be investigated is 'having a go at men'. I would think all men agree with me that it should be investigated. Why would anyone disagree?
/r/MensRights04/04/21 11:56 AM
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I don't mean to be rude but I think my perspective is often very different on things like this so I'd like a bit of clarification. I don't feel like this article demonized all men at all. I think it said men should pay attention to what's happening now in the world. That's true. Men should pay attention as much can be learned. When it comes to sex assaults, men SHOULD pay attention, call out bad behaviour, and understand where women are coming from. Why would anyone call that misandry? When it c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/21 11:24 AM
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Thousands of women reported stories of sexual assault and rape on a social platform. The School absoluty needs to investigate to see if there is a culture in the school that could be making sex assaults more common. This must be hard for the boys and I'm sympathetic to a group of young men in which most of them probably aren't rapists but this cannot and should not be swept under the rug. It should be investigated and if a problem is found, dealt with. Sex assaults are bad for men and women. We …
/r/MensRights04/04/21 11:08 AM
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While this is an interesting study, I think it is far too limited to extrapolate to a real world setting. These people In an organization that has long promoted diversity chose to be part of a study in which they knew they would be tracked in regards to hiring minorities. There is a good chance that skews behaviour. Plus it was a voluntary study, which means those more likely to promote diversity hiring would have been the ones to sign up to participate. I don't know what the results would be in…
/r/MensRights04/04/21 10:47 AM
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This is an interesting study. While we all know the wage gap is predominantly due to women's choices in the labour market, the idea that religion changes the choices made is interesting. It seems religious countries cling harder to the idea that women tend to the house and men earn the money. Which is why women in those countries would work fewer hours and make so much less money than their husbands. That makes sense in more traditionalist societies that tend to be more religious.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 01:43 AM
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Being a feminist does not preclude you from being supportive of men's issues and a good person.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 12:45 AM
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What male issue am I downplaying? Rape culture hurts men too and men would be more safe if we uproot any negative traits in society that could lead to sexual assaults against men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 06:18 PM
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Rape culture doesn't just mean defending or belittling rape. Perhaps you are confused by what rape culture is. Rape culture is saying things like what women are wearing or what they drink makes them partially responsible for whatever happens to them. Something that was clearly stated in the article you posted. That obviously exists in our culture. It exists in the article you just posted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 04:00 PM
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Rape culture is a societal thing. Not something men do to women. Women are often just as guilty when it comes to excusing sexual assault with attire or alcohol or actions leading to the abuse. Something doesn't have to be incredibly popular to be indicative of a cultural phenomenon. Suicide rates are significantly higher in some countries compared to others. Suicide isn't popular. But there are obviously cultural norms that make it more common in some places compared to others. And since one Sui…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 12:31 PM
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Im still not getting the point. Are you saying the MeToo movement can have some negative side effects too and so we shouldn't discuss rape culture in schools? I understand that in a meToo Era, men can be victimized by women but that doesn't mean we should just ignore any cultural attitudes that may encourage sexual assault. Those two things are unrelated. Cultural attitudes that make sexual assault more common are very real. Saying women getting drunk and wearing certain clothes makes them partl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 12:11 PM
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I don't think anyone thinks that all teenage sexual encounters are abusive so I'm not really sure what the point is there. I think people think too many end up being abusive for social norms not to be playing a key role. Which is why people want to study how pervasive rape culture is in schools. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 11:29 AM
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Rape culture isn't an attack on male sexuality. Framing it that was is unnecessarily defensive. It's an attack on men and women being accepting of things that promote sexual assaults. Males reporting sexual assault are dismissed. Thats rape culture. Rape culture is the idea that getting someone drunk and sleeping with them is perfectly acceptable. Rape culture is saying things like, 'being drunk and scantily clad is not an invitation to sex. But absolving girls of all responsibility for their ow…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 11:00 AM
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If you think women are on 'ez mode' and don't ever have self esteem issues...you clearly have a warped sense of gender. All people have tough lives and all people have self esteem issues. Saying otherwise makes you look naive.
/r/MensRights03/04/21 10:39 AM
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This meltdown is embarrassing for you. I'd delete it.
/r/MensRights03/04/21 03:36 AM
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Lol. No one is afraid of your screen shots. You seem to just be embarrassed because you were called out on your 'woe is me' sexism that you made up in your head. Stop being offended by everything. You'll live longer.
/r/MensRights02/04/21 11:32 PM
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The subject was the article. You're changing the subject to my beliefs about the patriarchy for some reason.
/r/MensRights02/04/21 10:50 PM
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No one is dumb enough to think all women couldn't do those things. There were female queens in history. The point that some women WERE born into those circumstances and you can't say the reason they didn't succeed was because of a lack of risk taking. Many women did not succeed for social reasons. Very real social reasons. And arguing social reasons didnt play a part...is foolish.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 07:30 PM
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This is false. https://www.statista.com/statistics/997360/global-adult-and-youth-literacy/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 07:13 PM
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White Women in 1800 couldn't own property in the majority of American states. White Men could all own property. Thats a fact. A society in which women can't own property and men can is pretty obviously patriarchal. I don't see a reason to argue with that. It doesn't mean men are guilty of anything today. There's no reason to be defensive about it. It's just a historical fact. To me, rejecting that society was male dominated is just as foolish as rejecting western society was white dominated. Whi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 06:58 PM
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What gross exaggeration? I said women born into bad situations didn't succeed and it had nothing to do with their 'risk taking'. Thats not a gross exaggeration. That's an obvious fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 06:42 PM
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Right. So men shaped the world structurally, politically, scientifically, educationally, and controlled social development outside of the home. And women chose what was for dinner and when the kids went to bed. Yeah. I guess they each had power. I just think one of those forms of power had more of an effect on societal development. Wouldn't you agree? Why are people pretending history was equal? It wasn't. This isn't a debatable subject. It's an objective fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 05:55 PM
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This is just so laughably false its embarrassing. You think women born into a society that doesn't educate them, allow them to hold a job, or property, or vote...didn't succeed because they weren't risk takers? Are you serious here or did you just not think about this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 05:24 PM
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Uhhh...did you just blame women for the pandemic, mass shootings, and race riots? Because that's a level of crazy I have never seen before. Maybe off the internet for a bit bro. Sit the next few plays out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 04:43 PM
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You think the title is misleading because it didn't mention that it was more men dead than women? You think every news article needs to mention which gender was killed more or else it is misleading? The first mention of gender is "The victims included three men in their 50s, several women, a 15-year-old and a two-year-old." The second mention is "More than 90% of the victims identified were male." At the end of the article, they speak of large scale humans rights abuses which includes the freque…
/r/MensRights02/04/21 04:12 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with this article. They barely mention gender at all, mentioned that the majority killed were men, and interviewed witnesses of the atrocities. They did spend time talking about the women that were raped by so many men that they were near death...but that's because that's a war crime and it should be mentioned. I fail to understand how this article could have been written differently to not offend people. Should they have talked about 1 male incident and 1 female? Only…
/r/MensRights02/04/21 03:55 PM
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Uhhh what? Your social power and influence is pretty directly tied to your name and occupation. Most women didn't have jobs and they literally lost their name when they got married.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 03:35 PM
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Patriarchy theory suggests that men hold the political and social power. I think its safe to say that existed for thousands of years in society. It wasn't all men. But it was men that held offices, titles, and social standing. We have made great gains on that front in the last century and many women are holding political offices and achieving great things in society. But the remnants of a history still exist. So our society as it is now is hardly a full blown patriarchy. But is there certain sym…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 03:12 PM
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People will say things like false allegations and society thinking they are a rapist. But very few men actually have to deal with those issues. Comparatively, men are still faced with the feeling that complaining or showing weakness is imasculine and I feel this is what is hurting men the most. This affects all men to some extent which means it's a far more widespread problem. Championing causes like female to male domestic violence will never be fruitful if men aren't actually reporting domesti…
/r/MensRights02/04/21 11:56 AM
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If you are against women treating all men as rapists...you should also be against men treating all women like they are false accusers.
/r/MensRights01/04/21 08:25 PM
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Sadly, it isn't as simple as this. Alternate prospects changes things. Men are more physical which means they have more physical jobs available to them. So sometimes pay increases aren't about demand as much as retention. While both are valid concerns for a business, paying mem more because In our society, men have access to more physical jobs with higher pay is a logical business move. Pay them a few extra pounds so they don't go work construction or other male dominated jobs. You don't fear lo…
/r/MensRights01/04/21 01:27 PM
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Yes, but where do these seemingly arbitrary 'should be paid different' rules come from? Why is lifting boxes more important than customer service? Is one inherently better? Does the store not need both equally to function? Why did we decide in this case that the man's work is just more valuable? I'm not saying it's sexism. But I don't see a reason why one is determined to be more important than the other. That said, I don't know the business. If back end has complicated processes that you want t…
/r/MensRights01/04/21 12:24 PM
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Depends. If they refuse to hire women for back room and then pay back room more. Thats gender discrimination. It's no different than saying only men are doctors and women are nurses and paying doctors more, regardless of credentials. But if women can work in the warehouse if they want to, then there is no gender discrimination and I don't see them winning. But I don't believe one job is inherently more important than the other so I'm supportive of paying them equally.
/r/MensRights01/04/21 12:02 PM
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I would MUCH prefer to work in a warehouse than deal with customers all day. Have you ever worked in customer service? Lol. And even if you'd prefer to work in customer service, why wouldn't you want these cashiers to get a raise? The job sucks. We should support our fellow citizens making more money. Not actively fight against them.
/r/MensRights01/04/21 11:44 AM
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I don't see any reason back end staff deserve more money than front end staff. I hope they do get their raise. There's no reason to fight against other people making more money just because they are mostly women.
/r/MensRights01/04/21 11:24 AM
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Not really. Because if men DID have the exact some legal rights as women, it would not mean that men do not face discrimination. The point was that the two aren't correlated.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 10:42 PM
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Black and white people have the same legal rights too. Does that mean you feel that black people aren't disadvantaged in society? No matter what your beliefs of adversity women face in society, the fact that legal rights are the same does not equate to they aren't discriminated against. Those are completely different concepts.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 08:58 PM
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You know it's 2021 right? And not 1821? Check your calendar.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 05:59 PM
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People hate it. While they focus on mens issues, many don't feel they are critical enough of mainstream feminism and feminists in general. I actually like the subreddit because I think you can help men without going out of your way to criticize feminism but there's a weird animosity between the two subreddits as a result of different ideologies regarding feminism. It's also a good place for men who identify as feminists because it means they can deal with some of their issues without feeling the…
/r/MensRights31/03/21 05:28 PM
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Feminists and MRAs are exactly the same in my experience. Most are normal people that want to help issues affecting their gender. But both groups ignore extremists in their ranks and both groups view the other side by their most extreme members. So all you'll get in this subreddit is people saying all feminists are manhaters. A fact we all know is false. And all you'll get in feminist subreddits is feminists saying MRAs are just angry misogynist incels. Again, we all know that's false. You won't…
/r/MensRights31/03/21 12:19 PM
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What we need to do is address the rampant hatred of men in society that makes them apologize just for existing. This is a scary mentality for everyone. When people feel alienated from society and demonized they are far more likely to lash out against a society that abandoned them. Do most men think this way though? That society hates them and that they need to apologize for existing? Because if the men that are lashing out and committing crimes all feel this way, it would be a huge indicator of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 12:28 AM
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"If you don’t want to be slapped, backhanded, punched in the mouth, decked or throttled keep your stinking hands off of other people." Sounds a lot more like hate than satire.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 10:05 PM
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And most people do. But OP was commenting on how he sees countless posts about how men are shamed and oppressed and he hasn't felt that way at all. My point is many exaggerate the amount of sexism faced in the real world because they spend too much much evaluating sexism on social media. This goes for men and women. A very recent post on mens rights recently opened with 'the worst thing in the world right now is to be a man'. Let's not pretend the crazies aren't out there. It's a bad look. Bette…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 08:08 PM
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Don't really feel like what I said was misandry. If you have a different opinion I'd like to hear it but I feel as though pretending women are actively oppressing men is quite simply not true. I don't see how that's misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 07:53 PM
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So hit a woman because a different woman said kill all men? What does that accomplish? Men and women are not one entity that should get lumped together. If one woman says kill all men. Tell her she sucks. You don't excuse violence against all women.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 06:19 PM
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You aren't wrong. And you'll find two types of MRAs. The ones that want to deal with issues that predominantly affect men. (The normal ones) And the ones that think men are oppressed and women are the oppressors. (The crazies) I find this subreddit has a lot less of the second group but if you spend some time on MGTOW or even MensRights, you'll see your fair share of people say life is unlivable as a man and I believe that's a hyperbolic reaction to too much social media. It's easy to feel like …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 05:52 PM
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Agreed. Which is why we need to call out return of kings when they say that women should be subservient. Not ignore it so people assume mens rights activists all feel that way.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 01:41 PM
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Return of kings is bad. Feel free to research. They were rightfully labeled a hate group. A voice for men is better than return of kings but still not a good representation of men's issues. People tend to dismiss you pretty quickly when you have a month called 'bash a violent bitch month'. And calling the trans community an 'evil ideology' that children need to to 'saved from' is obviously anti trans. There's no other way to interpret that. You can argue she's a concerned mom and I believe that.…
/r/MensRights30/03/21 01:07 PM
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Do you think feminists should denounce the 'kill all men' feminists? Or do you think they should say 'they hate us anyway so let's be extreme'? Feminism has long made the choice not to call out the extremists and it did irreparable damage to the movement. Thats why people here hate feminism and why less and less people are identifying as feminists. Why would mens rights activists make the same mistake after literally watching it happen to feminism?
/r/MensRights30/03/21 12:45 PM
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Agreed. Transphobia and the alienation of trans people definitely is an issue men face. And this author is making it worse by defending the idea that her child is being taken from her by an evil ideology and she needs to fight against it because letting him be who he wants is unacceptable to her.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 12:11 PM
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I'd say a better way of putting this, is don't let a voice for men and return of kings define the mens rights movement as men who hate women. Those groups are hateful. The article posted just before this was a voice for men and it was filled with hate for trans people. And return of kings is beyond toxic. Mens rights should not be judged by the worst voices but by the positive discussions. These groups aren't real mens rights activists. Edit: this is an actual quote from a return of kings articl…
/r/MensRights30/03/21 11:56 AM
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Hard to argue this is anything other than blatant transphobia. An entire article about how this parent has decided they know more about their child's feelings than their child does. " I can still picture that face of determination. Has the trans community taken this from me? Over my dead body." Parents don't lose their child when they transition. That line of thinking is terrible for children and makes them feel unwanted and unloved. " I hope to extract my son from the grip of this evil ideology…
/r/MensRights30/03/21 11:39 AM
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This was a rational and acceptable explanation of what mansplaining is but because you didn't cry victim or go on the offensive towards women sooo....downvoted. People are just offended by the term I think. That's why you get downvotes for explaining it.
/r/MensRights30/03/21 01:19 AM
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In a poll in Canada, over 50 percent of people extremely agreed that they are a feminist or moderately agreed they are a feminist. So the majority of people I come into contact with are moderate feminists. Makes it very hard to define what is and isn't feminism when that many people identify that way. https://www.statista.com/statistics/693896/canadians-identify-feminist-gender/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 01:44 PM
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This doesn't stop anyone from being presumed guilty. Social ramifications are worse than legal ramifications for these grey area sex assault cases and this does nothing to stop social ramifications. All this does is excuse sleeping with really drunk women when that's the problem. If 3 people have to carry a woman to a bed and a 4th goes in there and has sex with her. I think we all agree that is sleezy behaviour. But he can now say she was hammered but she consented, so it's not rape. He can the…
/r/MensRights29/03/21 01:20 PM
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That's exactly what Brock turner said. That she was just drunk and forgot she consented. This law is really going to make it easier for people like Brock turner.
/r/MensRights29/03/21 01:05 PM
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Based on this, Brock turner would never be found guilty if it weren't for eye witnesses. Making it easier for people like Brock turner to do what they do is not good. Its disgusting. I can't imagine why people are defending this.
/r/MensRights29/03/21 12:43 PM
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So all the circumstances that are behind closed doors? How could anyone get convicted of rape in that scenario unless a third party heard them saying 'no'? Even if they were completely passed out, you could rape them and just put the argument forth that they were too drunk to remember consenting and you'll never be convicted. This will allow many rapists to avoid punishment. This is NOT a good thing. We should be encouraging both sexes NOT to sleep with intoxicated men and women. Not defending t…
/r/MensRights29/03/21 10:07 AM
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The difference is criminal statistics versus victimization surveys. Men don't go to the police often for domestic violence or sexual assault. So only looking at police reports, men are the overwhelming majority of perpetrators and almost never victims. Anonymous victimization surveys aren't as formal but they show significantly higher rates of domestic violence and sexual assault towards males. So as odd as it sounds, both statistics are correct, just using different measuring tools that each ha…
/r/MensRights29/03/21 09:49 AM
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Why would I go on a female dating strategy subreddit if I'm not a female looking to date people?
/r/MensRights28/03/21 10:59 PM
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Comparing me to a nazi and suggesting I spout hate speech is far more of a personal attack than anything I have ever engaged in. Kind of makes sense that you are more likely to be banned than someone engaging in civil discussion like myself.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 09:52 PM
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I don't consider myself an MRA. I consider myself someone that cares about issues that men face disproportionately but with no interest in taking anything away from the women's movement that feminism spearheaded. So I call out poorly worded posts and upvote posts that are direct mens issues. The 'no' means 'yes' mentality isn't good for men or women so perpetuating that idea is bad for everyone. Which is why I'm critical of this post.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 08:48 PM
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If you spend your life thinking anyone that doesn't think exactly like you is a feminist spy...life will be difficult for you.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 08:27 PM
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I said I do that. I'd never tell other people what to do. It's their life. Really no reason to he so hostile.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 08:11 PM
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Is this real though? Do women actually say no and then openly tell people that when they said 'no', they meant yes? Or is this just something people say to normalize being pushy and trying to get women to change their mind after they say no?
/r/MensRights28/03/21 07:52 PM
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The malala fund has done excellent work in Pakistan regarding female education and they have not been shy about being self proclaimed feminists while being named after one of the most famous feminists. https://malala.org/countries/pakistan Seems pretty positive to me.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 12:41 PM
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Less than half of the females in Pakistan are literate whereas 71 percent of men are literate. Many sources suggest the overall illiteracy rates in Pakistan are increasing despite a global decrease overall. One of the ways feminism has made real change in societies is by vastly improving education for women. Do you feel this is an initiative that lacked foresight or are you supportive of improving access to education for young women in Pakistan that are clearly lagging behind their male peers?
/r/MensRights28/03/21 12:15 PM
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"wokeness requires masks be worn in public." Wokeness doesn't require masks. Common sense does. Tying masks to 'wokeness' is strange.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 10:35 AM
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You misunderstand what qualifies as a hate crime. It's not when you hit someone who is a different race than you. It's It's you hit someone BECAUSE they are a different race than you. And while motivation is tough to prove, that's why we have juries and judges to determine motivation in hate crime laws. Though I agree that with misandry and misogyny, it's none or both. My preference, would be none. Gender isn't the same as race and treating it the same doesn't make sense.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 05:29 PM
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No. You shouldn't have to suffer. Not sure where you got that from. Someone wanted a reason why objectifying men and women was seen so differently in society and I answered. I'm not justifying anything. Just explaining why people see it differently.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 01:07 PM
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You need evidence that violent nazis and racists are more likely to go back to prison than non racist people? Lol.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 12:35 PM
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People are more comfortable objectifying males because they don't have the same history of objectification that women do. Doesn't make it right. But that's the reason.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 12:17 PM
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"The concept of hate crimes is an affront to justice in a free, pluralistic liberal society." This is dumb. Hate crime laws are important. If someone attacks someone specifically because of the victims race or religion, their likelihood to reoffend is incredibly high and they SHOULD get a longer sentence. Whether or not hate crime laws for misogyny and misandry are viable is debatable, but saying all hate crime laws are an affront to justice is just dumb.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 10:51 AM
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Don't fucking say that you were assualted at 4 years old we all know you're lying. Wtf? Saying everyone that says they were molested as a child is a liar is pretty insane. Why is this being upvoted?
/r/MensRights27/03/21 02:28 AM
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Her tweet was fine. She simply said that those that haven't been engaged in climate protests might be more likely to now. There's no reason to be offended by that.
/r/MensRights26/03/21 07:47 PM
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Its okay to say black lives matter and it's okay to say white lives matter. But one is a movement made to challenge the status quo in regards to unequal treatment of African Americans in America for centuries. The other is an attempt to mock that movement by using similar verbiage and applying it to a race that has not seen nearly the oppression black people have. So you can say whichever...but one looks a lot better than the other.
/r/MensRights26/03/21 07:07 PM
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It is illegal to say the United States is fundamentally biased against men regarding prison sentences. It specifically says so in the law. It seems to me you just aren't understanding the law even though I gave you the direct quotes you needed.
/r/MensRights26/03/21 05:13 PM
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Taken directly from the bill; This bill defines and prohibits the dissemination of certain divisive concepts related to sex and race in state contracts,grants,and training programs. Divisive concept means the concept that The state of New Hampshire or the United States is fundamentally racist or sexist. So if you think the United States is sexist against men, this will forbid you from saying it. You think that's a win for a movement designed to show how western society is sexist towards men?
/r/MensRights26/03/21 04:51 PM
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Lol. No. It specifically can't be discussed. That's the whole point. Discussing fundamental racism or sexism within the United States or New Hampshire is not allowed. And we agree that the USA is fundamentally sexist against men. Silencing the mens rights movement is not a good bill for the mens rights movement. I can't imagine why you can't see that.
/r/MensRights26/03/21 04:19 PM
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So to be clear, I'm a bigot because I think institutional discrimination should be discussed? The bill bans saying "(b) The state of New Hampshire or the United States is fundamentally racist or sexist;" This would include teaching institutional discrimination is And has always been part of the American government. To deny this is to deny that men have been discriminated against in terms of sentencing since 1776. Sentencing bias is fundamentally part of the United States and you won't convince m…
/r/MensRights26/03/21 03:49 PM
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Men are never told that they can be proud of who they are. And many are made to apologize just for being alive. Instead of celebrating men, we attack and demonize them on a daily basis. And I think this difference in treatment and identity has an overall negative effect on their mental health. I've lived my life as a man and I've never felt this way so I'd like a better understanding of how this happens. How does a man end up feeling society is out to demonize him? I've seen my fair share of sex…
/r/MensRights26/03/21 03:14 PM
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What feminist bigotry? I'm saying a bill that doesn't allow you to teach that there is bias against men in the criminal justice system is not okay. Why would you be upset by that? Not to mention making it illegal to teach about institutional racism against minorities. I understand the intention of the bill, but I think in practice it doesn't make sense. You want it to be illegal to teach about institutional bias towards minorities or men?
/r/MensRights26/03/21 02:47 PM
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None wanted to invest but one and when he invested, did this woman do something responsible with that money like make her company better? Of course she didn't, she's a woman. She bough a $10 000+ Balenciaga handbag as well as some other designer clothes from brands like Louis Vuitton. Hard to argue this is anything other than direct sexism.
/r/MensRights26/03/21 01:51 PM
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It's against the law to say the state of New Hampshire is fundamentally racist or sexist. Sentencing discrimination is pretty sexist in my opinion and new Hampshire is guilty of that. Although the hypergamy point I would concede. It could be discussed but very carefully as thats a pretty fine line between discussing that and blaming a gender. My biggest issue with this was about completely denouncing institutional racism against minorities that have been historically disenfranchised. Saying its …
/r/MensRights26/03/21 12:37 PM
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If this bill passed, it would be illegal to teach that the state is biased against men in sentencing criminals. It would be illegal to teach that the government favours women in regards to homelessness and suicides. It would be illegal to teach that women are passively oppressive because of hypergamy and male disposability. Basically, a lot of the theories discussed here would be illegal to be discussed in a classroom. It would also be illegal to teach that systemic racism exists against African…
/r/MensRights26/03/21 11:46 AM
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No. Its valid. Why wouldn't it be? Who told you you can't be afraid of someone only wanting you for your money?
/r/MensRights25/03/21 08:46 PM
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It's fine. And if you want to avoid dating due to that fear and treat every woman like she wants to steal from you, that's on you. I don't think anyone has a problem with that.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 08:15 PM
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The point was that men would all get life in jail. That was clearly not true so I pointed out as much. Not sure why people get upset about facts.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 07:07 PM
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Yeah. Thats what I said. That they aren't bigots. I do support men that do this. I'm consistent in my beliefs. Are you? Do you think these men are bigots and should be shamed for not having casual sex with women?
/r/MensRights25/03/21 03:27 PM
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Yeah. Those people suck. And if you want to be afraid of all women because of those people...thats on you. Although isn't you're stance that fearing all women based on a few a form of bigotry? Do you think the men avoiding sex with all women for fear if false allegations are bigots? I certainly don't. But I'm curious if you do.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 02:08 PM
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Right so protect yourself and don't sleep with really drunk women or women that you aren't sure want to be in the situation they are in. Seems like pretty good advice to me. It's not all women. But it's some and so avoid those situations altogether. Men and women will both be happier with clear consent. Not being able to sleep with really drunk people should not be seen as a disadvantage.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 01:49 PM
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The dangers of casual sex for men and womem is a reason TO commit. Not a reason not to.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 01:33 PM
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If you think less casual sex between strangers at frat houses threatens the survival of the species...you may be overreacting a little bit. And class up. Calling people retards is for 14 year olds. Society is more civilized than that now.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 01:09 PM
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This is very flawed logic. If a teacher has had thousands of students is accused of a sexual relationship with a minor...would you immediately believe the teacher because there was no history of sexual relationships? Would you call the student coming forward a liar that is abusing the justice system? I don't know what the situation is with Ron Jeremy but I know that assuming he is innocent because he's had so much consensual sex is not a great argument. Probably better to let the investigation h…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 12:54 PM
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True. Men are out there thinking it's a bad idea to sleep with intoxicated women or women that haven't given verbal consent. But wasn't that the point of the meeToo movement? Won't there be less bad situations for men and women now? Is this bad? Edit: I think less men being accused of rape and less women feeling taken advantage of is a good thing. I can't imagine why people feel it's bad.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 12:33 PM
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Your post seemed to cover a lot of jurisdictions, but it also said " A study of homicides in Western Nigeria found that only 8% of all murder defendants were successful with the plea (Bienen, 1974). Later studies in other jurisdictions have indicated that the rate of success of the insanity defence among those who raised it could be in the range of 26.3-28.1% (Callahan et al., 1991;Cirincione et al., 1995). A recent evaluation of 120 cases across A. Ogunwale, O. Oluwaranti Forensic Science Inter…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 11:59 AM
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The gofundme is for the murdered victim and many men and women get off due to insanity. Here's 4 examples I found right away of men getting lesser sentences due to insanity. Pretending this doesn't happen to men isn't accurate. https://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/found-not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity-fairbank-man-remains-in-jail-awaiting-evaluation/article_b8e6b951-81b6-53e6-8b04-8698d6d7e45d.html https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/16/broomfield-man-not-guilty-insanity-death-dad/…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 11:43 AM
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As messed up as this is, not guilty by reason of Mental insanity is not uncommon for men or women. There's no reason to make this a gender issue. https://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/found-not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity-fairbank-man-remains-in-jail-awaiting-evaluation/article_b8e6b951-81b6-53e6-8b04-8698d6d7e45d.html https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/16/broomfield-man-not-guilty-insanity-death-dad/ https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=5b4d49a7-15f4-4fc6-8517-4e9111698d…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 11:28 AM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/5097399/gender-pay-gap-2019-canada-glassdoor/
/r/MensRights25/03/21 12:43 AM
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Unwanted physical contact is sexual harassment. Pretty much everyone on earth has experienced that. I'm surprised there are 3 percent of women that haven't experienced it in their lifetime. Though I bet its a similar percentage for men.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 02:23 PM
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This tweet didn't blame men for anything. It just says every woman walks home afraid. I don't really see a reason to be mad that women are talking about their fears when they aren't generalizing men. I'm sure I'll be downvoted for this, but saying women shouldn't be allowed to discuss their fears with other women because it makes men feel like they are being blamed is overreacting.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 02:03 PM
-9

Comparing crossing the street to bowing is obviously hyperbolic and just makes it seem like you feel making a small concession to help women is the same as treating them like royalty. I would make the same concession for a man. It's what good people do. The anger and hyperbolic comparisons when someone says they treat women with respect are very unhelpful and make it look like people are against doing kind gestures towards women simply because they are women
/r/MensRights24/03/21 12:56 PM
-57

Many women are uncomfortable treating men like they are criminals when they don't even know them. Plus, historically, showing you are afraid can increase victimization rates. Women are told to 'look confident' and telling them to cross the street obviously conflicts with that idea. I have no idea what women should be doing as there's so much advice everywhere. That's why I just cross the street. Because it's not a big deal.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 12:35 PM
-8

Many women feel they are being offensive when they cross the street since they are treating a stranger like a rapist. It also shows fear which historically increases rates of victimization. It's a tough position to be in which is I don't mind someone something to help. But not everyone is helpful. You're free to ignore how women feel and live your life accordingly.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 12:20 PM
-47

They don't have to. I choose to because they find it helpful. Whether they are overreacting or not doesn't really matter much to me. It's not like anyone is asking me to move mountains...
/r/MensRights24/03/21 12:00 PM
-96

When you see a women walking alone at night, you don't have to cross the street. No one is making you. But you have two choices. 1: Purposefully make her uncomfortable by walking right at her. Or 2: make her feel a bit less nervous by crossing the street. I cross the street since I don't like making people feel uncomfortable when I can easily avoid it. But it's a free country and you can choose whichever option you want. Edit: I'm simply saying what I do in these suggestions. I'm not saying all …
/r/MensRights24/03/21 11:36 AM
-16

Politely asking men to be aware that women are nervous around them when walking alone is not the same as 'banning men from walking close to you'. I cross the street when I see a woman walking alone at night. It takes zero effort and I know a fellow human being appreciates it. You don't have to. You can purposefully make them uncomfortable if that's what you want to do. I just don't like making other people uncomfortable so I choose to cross the street. You might think it's stupid. You might thin…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 11:21 AM
-22

So you feel I'm a bigot because I'm more cautious around men at night? You're entitled to your opinion of course. I just don't think I'm I'm bigot because I walk a bit taller when I pass men and I'm more ready for potential confrontation.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 06:00 PM
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I'm a man, and I'm more cautious around men than women. I don't know the stats, but I assume that men are more likely to victimize a stranger on the street so I'm more cautious. I don't understand why everyone is upset by that. I'd be more cautious having drunk sex with a woman than a man. Women are more likely to have a negative reaction to it. Being cautious around the other gender is not a crime and comparing it to racism is not the same.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 05:17 PM
5

I think the problem is the two sides view this issue very differently. One side, views it as speaking out against male on female violence. One side, views it as speaking out against men. Obviously to women, speaking out against male on female violence is justifiable and if this upsets men, so be it. Violence should be spoken up against. The other side views it as speaking out against men, which is harmful to mental health and not a productive use of time as all men aren't really the problem here…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/21 04:22 PM
6

Wow. That's exactly what feminists say. That #notallmen is a way of distracting from the conversation and that men should just shut up about the generalizations. Seems you have very similar logic. Excusing mass generalizations and calling people the enemy of progress when they question them.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 12:00 PM
18

I thought we were against generalizations of an entire gender? Edit: There are enough reasonable people in mens rights groups to see this comment and the following ones for what it is. If you want to end up exactly like feminism, scroll past this and ignore it. If you want to be better than feminism, the comments and the defense of these comments needs to be called out. Sweeping generalizations are not okay against men or women. Acting like one is bad while ignoring things like this is a terribl…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 11:43 AM
-32

Many strong, independent women have gone through divorces. Some of whom had a history of abuse and fought their way out of toxic relationships. There's no reason to take shots at women that have been through divorces as it has nothing to do with mens rights.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 04:26 AM
0

Lol. Wow...
/r/MensRights23/03/21 04:11 AM
-4

Becomes pretty philosophical. Is an actions inherent goodness determined by the act itself or by the good or bad it does in the world. We seem to lean different directions in the answer. I appreciate the perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 11:43 PM
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I don't think we entirely disagree. I said that the action is wrong. The result is worse. The best comparison I can think of off the top of my head is drinking and driving. It's obviously bad. But someone that drinks and drives and gets pulled over should be punished. Someone that drinks and drives and kills a family should be punished more. It's the same crime, but comparing the two seems almost foolish as the result of one was so much more potent. No drinking and driving should be condoned but…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 11:28 PM
-34

Being prejudiced against a minority is different than being prejudiced against the majority. They are the same crime, but one has a FAR greater impact. Both are not okay. But one is far more damaging than the other and comparing them ignores context. The statement 'people from Virginia are terrorists' doesn't offend many people. Virginians won't be harassed based on that. Saying 'Muslims are terrorists' is the exact same generalization. You must understand how one is more damaging than the other…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 11:05 PM
-7

Right. But if a million people decide they don't want to watch Cosby's stand up. Is that wrong? If someone doesn't vote for biden, is that wrong? If someone says their daughter can't hang out with a boy from school after allegations, is that wrong? We all know printed headlines that are lies are not okay. But there is a massive grey area there. Obviously Cosby, the boy from school, and biden can't sue in those scenarios. So what's the answer?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 07:25 PM
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Statistically, the odds of you going to jail for a rape you did not commit are probably lower than being struck by lightning. I bet that's true. But the social repercussions of being accused of a crime you did not commit are very real. Thats the point of contention. Anyone worried they will be jailed is exaggerating. Anyone worried they will be alienated from friends and family is rightfully nervous. 90 percent of rape cases, there is no concrete evidence either way. So people tend to just belie…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 06:23 PM
6

No one should be told that. I don't care what gender you are.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 05:41 PM
15

Women and feminists should distance themselves from male spaces so men can talk more openly without comparisons to women being drawn. Those comparisons often make men uncomfortable because they feel they are being told their problems aren't important enough to discuss. My personal opinion is that women want physical space in public and I'm fine doing that for them. But if men want safe spaces to discuss their issues to feel more comfortable, people should honour that as well. Conversely, I think…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 02:04 PM
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Fortunately, most men don't deal with family court or false allegations. Few men really feel discriminated against at all for being a man which gives them minimal reason to sacrifice their time. The only way more men will get involved is if more men are affected by the discriminatory practices which is obviously a bad thing. Neither option seems all that appealing.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:44 AM
1

I've never watched a man assault a woman. But I've seen men objectify and dehumanize women. I didn't call them out on it. I laughed nervously because I'm not about to be confrontational with people I don't know that well. That's complacency and it's a real problem. I have no qualms about admitting that I'm part of it. I don't think women need every man going full John Wick every time there's an incident. But women need people like me to be better in those situations. It won't solve the problem b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/21 01:38 PM
-2

Telling victims that their actions led to their assault is victim blaming and you're actively supporting it. How deep are your issues with women where you are actively encouraging blaming the victim for rape? If you're mother ran out of gas and was assaulted on a side road, would you lecture her in public about how important it was to check her gas gauge and choose the correct roads right afterwards? That behaviour is disgusting and would be emotionally crippling for her you're out here defendin…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 01:00 PM
-1

I see. So you don't think it's victim blaming even when the head of the police department questions the victims actions on national TV. You don't think it's victim blaming when someone literally blames the victim for being in that situation. You may not be the best reference point here and you seem very angry with me for some reason. But I'll leave you with this, many men are victims of sexual assault and are afraid to come forward because they feel they will be blamed for getting themselves int…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 12:43 PM
-1

My bad. I thought you were looking for examples of victim blaming in general. You want a very specific example of victim blaming. You see a lot less of that specific kind of victim blaming these days. That's for sure. Seems all the criticism of that behaviour actually helped. Really no need to be so combative about it.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 12:28 PM
-1

Did you read it? "The next day the most senior police official in Lahore, Umer Sheikh, appeared in front of the media and implied that she had been partly to blame. He questioned why she had not taken a busier road, given that she had been alone with her children, or checked her fuel before departing. In several TV appearances he reiterated these points, also adding that the woman, who is a resident of France, seemed to be operating under the impression Pakistan was as safe as France. The reacti…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 12:13 PM
-1

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56472645
/r/MensRights21/03/21 11:36 AM
-4

Blaming women for the number of violent men? Yikes....
/r/MensRights20/03/21 05:06 PM
-10

So you do trust their problems are real. You just don't care about them feeling safe. Lots of feminists don't care about men's feelings too. Its unfortunate that people are radicalized to that point. Personally, I cross the street. If that makes women feel more comfortable it seems easy enough. I hope more people start understanding men's struggles and start catering to those feelings as well. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 11:39 AM
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Not caring about women's issues because you don't like feminists is just as bad as not caring about men's rights issues because you don't like mens rights activists. This is the same logic feminists use when they completely ignore male problems because they think they aren't real. I think mens rights should be better than feminism, not engaging in the exact same negative behaviors.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 11:13 AM
-8

After posting the sign, Do you think all the banks customers would be upset because the request went to all customers instead of just bank robbers? Do you think #NotAllCustomers would start trending?
/r/MensRights19/03/21 09:50 PM
1

yes. But there's a difference between being bigoted to minorities versus being bigoted towards the majority. Bigotry towards minorities has done FAR more harm than bigotry towards majorities so you need to be more careful around it. If I said men are terrorists, it probably will not catch on and likely very little will come of it. Everyone knows a man that isn't a terrorist. If I said Muslims are terrorists, it leads to the very real attacks we've seen on Muslims in western society. Arguing that…
/r/MensRights19/03/21 05:04 PM
0

So you think Mike pence is a bigot for choosing never to be alone with a women other than his wife? You can hold that view if you want. Just needs to be consistent.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 04:39 PM
-1

I don't think its okay to fear men just because they are men. I think its okay to avoid situations where you are more likely to be victimized by a man. Like walking home alone at night while Intoxicated. You seem to think that avoiding such behaviours is unacceptable which I don't understand.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 04:04 PM
-8

So why wouldn't you call this sexism out on that post? Instead of a post that clearly just says women carve their own path in this world. I have no problem calling out sexism, clearly. But you decided to be sexist on an innocuous post. If you see a post about how women control their destiny, and it makes you want to insult women...you may be the problem.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 02:18 PM
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You didn't switch genders. You took a post saying that women create their own path in this world and you turned it around to suggest that women are incapable. Thats not irony. Its not a clever twist. Its not a response to a sexist meme. Its simply you trying to disparage women because you saw something you didn't like. And it's sad.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 01:59 PM
-3

I appreciate a civil response. I don't always get those. But you were quick to dismiss this comment as a joke and yet the TwoX comment you read was 'seriously meant, no sarcasm, and not meant as a joke' If every misogynist comment is a joke but misandry is real and hurtful, I think there may be some bias involved. Comments like this one need to be called out or we are no better than the countless subs people here complain about.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 01:38 PM
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This is blatantly not true. Many women are very talented in their positions and have earned their credentials. Suggesting otherwise is just a sexist comment that women aren't as capable as men. Why do people upvote these comments?
/r/MensRights19/03/21 12:33 PM
1

Anti-women attitudes definitely play a role in crimes against women. I don't think that surprises anyone. We all agree that anti-men attitudes play a role in crime against men right? The concept of male disposability is very real and it hurts men. Thats why its important that people in MRA circles and people in feminists circles call out comments that are generalizing men or hateful towards women. To prevent those spaces from becoming echochambers that create hate.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 12:09 PM
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I think they say the western world is male dominated because men earn more money than women and men hold the vast majority of management and upper level positions. The argument would be that having more capital, prestige, and influence makes them more powerful than women collectively.
/r/MensRights19/03/21 11:54 AM
0

True. Its what 'my name is Davey' is saying. And its super messed up. Women aren't faking being scared of men because it makes them feel powerful.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 10:13 PM
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Wow... Media bombard women with stories of rape, assault, murder, and kidnapping...and when women are afraid, you accuse them of being afraid just to get some petty revenge on men? This is pretty messed up.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 09:58 PM
2

I don't think generalized statements about men are okay. Statements like 'men are trash or 'men don't respect women' only serve to add fuel to the fire. Which is why statements like 'women resent men' and 'most men are invisible to women' are also inappropriate generalizations. More people should be calling out these generalizations. Not upvoting them.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 02:00 PM
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Sigh. So you actually DO believe men that don't sleep with drunk women are bigots? I said that assuming you you wouldn't feel that way. Men, don't let people tell you protecting yourself from false allegations is bigoted. Protect yourself first. Peoples feelings come after.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 01:42 PM
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If a man said he doesn't want to sleep with drunk women because he fears false allegations...he would be a bigot too right? Because I don't think so. Most false allegations are women so avoid putting yourself in a position where you could be victimized right? Just like avoid walking home alone to avoid being sexually assaulted. Its good advice. And men that avoid sex with drunk women and women that avoid walking home alone at night for fear of victimization from the other sex are not bigots. Tha…
/r/MensRights18/03/21 01:26 PM
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Do you think women should avoid walking home alone late at night to avoid being victimized? Or do you think thats bigoted and they should walk home alone at night because its unfair to be afraid of men?
/r/MensRights18/03/21 01:08 PM
2

Im not sure more men being shot because women were scared is a great solution here.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 12:32 PM
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Fear is not hatred. If a woman is a bit uncomfortable crossing paths with you at 2 am on a dark street...that doesn't mean she hates you. Women want to do what they can to be as safe as possible. That doesn't mean they hate men. There's really no need to take it so personally.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 11:34 AM
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If you have to choose from all the mens issues that affect men in today's world, the sentencing time of murderers and rapists that specifically targeted women is not the issue I would choose. Pick your battles. Calling the men in UK weak for not dying on this hill is foolish.
/r/MensRights17/03/21 11:38 PM
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Menslib is a very popular sub reddit and no one thinks it is anti women. The vast majority of conversation is issues that affect males. Don't let anyone tell you discussing mens issues is anti women. Thats utter garbage.
/r/MensRights17/03/21 11:04 PM
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Both should be called out. But not generalized. Call out INDIVIDUALS for inappropriate comments. Down call out all feminists or all mens rights activists and assume they all think exactly the same.
/r/MensRights17/03/21 10:37 PM
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Many people feel you can discuss mens issues without blaming everything on feminism. Your lived experience has nothing to do with feminism as feminism is a massive movement and your lived experience is not representative of all of feminism. Hating feminists because some treated you poorly is no different that hating men because some treated you poorly. Generalizing feminists, men, women, or mens rights activists helps no one and many subs try to avoid doing it.
/r/MensRights17/03/21 09:55 PM
1

The stat isn't faulty. The stat is accurate. The justification is what can be faulty. Saying its entirely due to discrimination is blatantly incorrect. That said, I think saying 'women choose lower paying jobs and take more time off so who cares' is also faulty. Why do women have lower paying jobs and why do they take more time off? Assuming genders are equal, its weird that so many women are missing so much more work and doing so much less overtime. So drilling into that should be the goal of f…
/r/MensRights17/03/21 01:36 PM
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The vast majority of men are not being used for their money. The majority of men are in domestic partnerships with shared responsibilities. But yes, some men are being used for their money. An unfortunate problem.
/r/MensRights17/03/21 12:52 PM
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I don't know why people think the equal pay act makes it so men and women are paid exactly the same. Is any other law 100 percent effective. Countless jobs have salaries that are negotiated. I negotiated my salary with my employer. There are 15 people that do my job and I know they are not all paid the same. Simply put, I don't know if my employer is paying women less or more. But I sure as hell can tell you its not exactly the same as all of our salaries are negotiated based on tenure, past exp…
/r/MensRights17/03/21 11:38 AM
0

So you want men to be punished for rape and men to call out sexism when they see it? That doesn't seem all that unreasonable. Isn't that what mens rights activists want from women too? More punishment for those that commit crimes and for women to call out sexism against men? Why would we downvote this person for asking for exactly what BOTH genders should have?
/r/MensRights17/03/21 03:02 AM
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I think its smart to avoid having sex with ALL intoxicated women. I don't think I'm being bigoted in that advice to young men. Its not worth the risk. Most of them wouldn't contact police or claim that she was taken advantage of. But I don't know which women will so its best to avoid sleeping with all drunk women. This is the same advice women extend to passing men in the street. Probably not a bad person. But not 100 percent so avoid the situation if you can.
/r/MensRights17/03/21 02:47 AM
0

Right. So men and women that like to avoid being right next to strangers when walking alone at night...are nazis. Wow...the mental acrobatics to make these comparisons just astound me.
/r/MensRights16/03/21 03:19 PM
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Why? Because I want to help people feel comfortable? That seems like a strange thing to be against. Why make someone uncomfortable if you don't have to? So much anger at society these days. Just be a good person and help when you can. That hardly seems unreasonable to me.
/r/MensRights16/03/21 03:03 PM
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I've said nothing about men or women. I think it should be common practice for everyone. How does that make me a bigot? At this point, you're just making up things to be offended about.
/r/MensRights16/03/21 02:21 PM
0

So you are against crossing the street to make men and women feel more comfortable? Men are 3 times more likely to be killed and you are against giving a bit of distance there so they don't need to worry? I can't understand why you would be against a social custom that makes everyone feel safer? I guess you can just tell me to shut up but im truly curious why anyone would choose to be against something so commonly a good thing.
/r/MensRights16/03/21 01:44 PM
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I don't understand this point. Are you just mad at me because you don't like my opinion that we should make sure our fellow humans feel as safe as we reasonably can?
/r/MensRights16/03/21 01:26 PM
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Crossing the street when you see a stranger approaching does not make you their slave.
/r/MensRights16/03/21 01:03 PM
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More. All humans should feel as safe as possible and if all i gotta do is cross the street so that I don't alarm someone. I'll cross the street. If all I gotta do is not walk quickly and catch up to a woman walking alone at night, I'll slow my pace or cross the street. If simple things like that can make men and women feel more safe, im happy to do them. Getting upset by recent dialogue to the point where you want women to be scared of you is not okay. At all.
/r/MensRights16/03/21 12:46 PM
2

97 percent of men probably have experienced unwanted physical contact and inappropriate jokes as well. Rather than dismissing it and saying its not a big deal, I think we should try and create a society where EVERYONE is being harassed less. Trying to say harassment isn't a big deal because women reported it, is stupid. It is a big deal and it happens to A LOT of men. We should be showing that men are victims too. Not telling women they aren't real victims. That does nothing for mens rights exce…
/r/MensRights16/03/21 12:25 PM
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I just call out things I feel are inappropriate. Shouldn't we have people like that? Or should we just ignore things that are inappropriate? Do you think feminists should be better about calling out inappropriate behaviour? All the while saying we shouldn't be calling it out?
/r/MensRights15/03/21 06:05 PM
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I didn't say not to be upset. I said you don't need to go protest because this will never happen. You're welcome to be upset.
/r/MensRights15/03/21 05:19 PM
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Because I'm not a hateful woman. Why would I go to a women's hate sub? I spend my time on mens subreddits.
/r/MensRights15/03/21 04:35 PM
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Lol. Someone says they are going to commit crimes against women and its upvoted. I say thats messed up and I'm downvoted and called hateful. Does that really make sense to anyone?
/r/MensRights15/03/21 03:51 PM
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Wait...so you think people are really discussing this? The logistics of this are astronomically impossible. You think its real?
/r/MensRights15/03/21 01:52 PM
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No protest necessary. No one is actually considering a curfew. It was just hyperbole to upset those gullible enough to believe it.
/r/MensRights15/03/21 12:16 PM
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If the only thing stopping you from robbing women walking alone at night, was that there may be men nearby...women have a pretty good argument that its unsafe to walk alone at night.
/r/MensRights15/03/21 11:35 AM
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I think the fact that you think women want to use you and exploit you has a lot more to do with your standing with women than your height. If you think women want to exploit you for money and don't care about you since you are under 6 feet... are you really a nice guy? Kinda seem like you have very minimal respect for women.
/r/MensRights13/03/21 01:05 PM
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If the facebook comment was real and you see nothing wrong with it, it isn't really a false allegation. But depending on the comment, it may be an overreaction. With social media policies the way they are, it doesn't take much to be construed as bullying or harassment. So depending on what the comment was, you may have a case for wrongful dismissal.
/r/MensRights13/03/21 11:23 AM
0

I've never really understood this stat. 3 times more men are assaulted. Thats correct. But in terms of likelihood of an assault, you'd also need to know the number of men vs women that are walking home at night. I don't think that number would be even. Without that piece of information, we can't really know what the odds are. If its even, men are 3 times more likely to be assaulted. If there are 3 times as many men as women walking home alone, its even in terms of odds to be assaulted. If there …
/r/MensRights12/03/21 11:28 AM
-3

So you think OJ is innocent?
/r/MensRights12/03/21 03:42 AM
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Just because there wasn't enough evidence to put him jail doesn't mean he is innocent. It means its one of the vast majority of he said / she said cases where we will never know what really happened.
/r/MensRights12/03/21 02:20 AM
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We will never know if he was guilty but we do know he lost a year and a half of his life.
/r/MensRights12/03/21 02:05 AM
1

Bad men make good men look good is not misandry. Its a fact of life. Just how bad women make good women look good. Not misogyny. Its a fact.
/r/MensRights11/03/21 02:29 PM
0

Yeah. I guess thats easier than arguing my point. Although thus far, the top comment said the same thing I did. You may be reaching a bit trying to make yourself the victim here.
/r/MensRights11/03/21 02:03 PM
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No. They aren't. You seem to be taking it personally when that was no one's intention. Benefiting from something doesn't mean you supported or caused it. It just means you benefitted from it.
/r/MensRights11/03/21 01:46 PM
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What's wrong with this? Its true of all situations. Women that cheat make women that are faithful look better. Men that are unemployed make men with jobs look better. Alcoholics make those that can control their consumption look better. Just because men like myself look better for not being abusive, it doesn't mean anyone is blaming me or all men for abuse. Theres really no need to take things so personally. If you get out of a marriage in which your wife treated you terribly, you may be content…
/r/MensRights11/03/21 01:19 PM
0

I think it says a lot that a post to actually start helping mens rights is met with mockery and no support.
/r/MensRights09/03/21 10:54 PM
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Yeah. Im miserable because I don't want to intentionally harm women with concepts like toxic femininity. That makes sense.
/r/MensRights09/03/21 04:31 PM
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How is this an attack on men? I just asked a question.
/r/MensRights09/03/21 02:39 PM
-4

If the concept of toxic masculinity is harmful to men, why would we discuss toxic femininity? Isn't that being harmful to women?
/r/MensRights09/03/21 12:21 PM
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Here are some other quotes from the article you quoted. "When he goes out or spends time with friends, he becomes an adolescent again. He can’t keep adult limits with alcohol, abuses recreational drugs, participates in pranks or generally reverts to a middle-school sense of humor." "This can be anything from the mundane—picking up his clothes and food items around your shared living space—to the more serious, such as picking up after his unpaid debts" "When you stop the nagging and try to bring …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/21 07:31 PM
3

If he did in fact suggest someone half his age play strip poker with him in the workplace, isn't that sexual harassment? He clearly didn't see anything wrong with making a joke like that but its obviously not acceptable workplace behaviour. People should be criticized for making comments like that.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 02:16 PM
1

I literally called the post on twoX sexist.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 03:02 PM
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I just said TwoX contains hateful generalizations and called the original post from TwoX sexist. You're literally commenting on that comment that I always defend women no matter what. You must realize how foolish that looks right?
/r/MensRights06/03/21 02:16 PM
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If you think calling out misogyny is defending misandry, you have a very warped sense of what misandry is.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 02:00 PM
0

All movements look hypocritical when you evaluate every individual opinion as the opinion of the movement. There are many feminists, mens rights activists, and black lives matter activists that have different opinions on many issues. There are more traditionalist MRAs and more progressive MRAs. That doesn't mean the movement is hypocritical.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 01:01 PM
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How is this comment any different than the hateful generalizations you see on TwoX? If you dislike sexist comments like the one posted, why engage in the same behaviour?
/r/MensRights06/03/21 12:40 PM
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MRAs and feminists are improving quality of life for both sides. A more equal society is better for everyone. Even if you are only fighting for your side. If less men are killing themselves or incarcerated disproportionately, that's good for women too. If women are becoming more engaged in the workplace and can help support a family, that's good for men too. If the stigma around mental health is removed for men and women, that benefits the other. The idea that there is only x support and men and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/21 11:42 AM
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The top post there now contains this A less attractive woman [LW] can be convinced into almost what ever sex you want to if you are out of her league. She cannot believe you 'chose' her. She will literally ask "Why are you interested in me? Do you really want to have a second date?" shit like that. Combine great looks and good charisma and you can literally make her do anything you want. And the top comment on said post is 'Why do fat women give such good blow jobs? Because they have to.' Let's …
/r/MensRights06/03/21 11:22 AM
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You don't need to imagine. Some dude in the comments posted links to a bunch of men being sentenced. It was an average of 5 months prison. Less than half the time she got. Edit: All I did was point out someone else's comment that is heavily upvoted. Im not sure why everyone is so upset.
/r/MensRights05/03/21 12:13 PM
3

High crossover with polyamory and MGTOW. Who exactly is everyone being polyamorous with?
/r/MensRights04/03/21 12:09 AM
3

Is there any evidence this was a false allegation? Or just a lack of evidence that it happened?
/r/MensRights03/03/21 05:51 PM
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Men make up the vast majority of prestigious positions in western society. While they may have some disadvantages, men clearly don't need to lie and invade female spaces to get ahead. This reads more like wanting revenge than mens rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/21 02:02 PM
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Its a pretty complicated problem. Men are way less likely to report abuse because there are less programs for them. Which makes it look as though the vast majority of abused people are women. So they get the vast majority of funding and mens programs remain underfunded. You can't spend money on men that aren't reporting their abuse so what is the next step to make shelters more inclusive? It would have made more sense to use that 5 million for advertising campaigns that feature men as victims an…
/r/MensRights01/03/21 12:39 PM
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Comparing domestic violence shelters to the KKK is completely irrational. This could have been a positive post about potential changes but you turned it into a hyperbolic joke. Bad form.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/21 12:11 PM
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Nah. Its pathetic to see someone proud of an accomplishment and feel the need to tear them down. Only sad, petty people would try to do that.
/r/MensRights28/02/21 09:05 PM
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Shitting on a woman for an accomplishment she is proud of is not a mens rights thing. It's a hateful thing. Know the difference and be better.
/r/MensRights28/02/21 07:18 PM
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If you have issues with women being successful to the point that you are wishing ill on a random stranger...you may have some gender issues you need to work out. This isn't a mens rights issue. Just stupid people being petty.
/r/MensRights28/02/21 07:03 PM
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This is blatantly transphobic and condescending towards men. This person think that there son is wrong about who they are. That as parents they know more about who their child is, and that men are being tricked into changing their gender. The article even suggests it shouldn't be happening to 'regular boys with regular homes' This reads as a 'its societies fault and my child doesn't know whats best for him so I'm going to tell him what gender he Is'. Let kids be who they want. And stop acting li…
/r/MensRights28/02/21 12:16 PM
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Women can be rapists too. And men deserve to not have to tell the story to large groups of people. Or did you think only women can be raped? Not sure why people are against victim rights...
/r/MensRights28/02/21 02:22 AM
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Good. Victims shouldn't have to recount their rape in front of an audience. This may make people more comfortable seeking justice after a rape.
/r/MensRights28/02/21 12:20 AM
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Yes. I hate men because I think sexist hiring policies are harmful. That makes sense...
/r/MensRights27/02/21 04:13 PM
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No goal post moving. I think sexist hiring policies were bad in the past and now. But many seem to think it was an advantage for women in the past and a disadvantage for men now Seems kind of biased.
/r/MensRights27/02/21 01:48 PM
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I see. So women having a slight edge in hiring today proves women have it easier but men having a massive advantage in 1980 is not an indicator of life being easier. Seems like it would just be easier to say that both were advantages to certain sexes and both were wrong.
/r/MensRights27/02/21 12:54 PM
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If this is concrete evidence that women have it easier, does that mean it is concrete evidence that men had it easier for the hundred years prior to this? When they dominated the workforce?
/r/MensRights27/02/21 12:11 PM
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The belief in false information doesn't help anyone. This person says that we shouldn't belittle woman's problems but that's exactly we should too. They literally used the word belittle.
/r/MensRights25/02/21 12:32 PM
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Does no one see the irony in complaining that feminism doesn't take mens issues seriously while simultaneously advocating for mens rights groups to belittle women's issues?
/r/MensRights25/02/21 04:06 AM
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14 percent of countries in the world are led by women. Mathematically, 1 out of 10 is pretty much exactly what you would expect. Making outrageous claims that don't have statistical backing to try and make women look like poor leaders does nothing for mens rights.
/r/MensRights25/02/21 03:51 AM
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I think families should do what's best for them. As a man, if my wife wants to stay home and raise kids, she is welcome to do so. Anyone with kids knows how important it is to have someone you trust looking after them. I certainly wouldn't resent my wife for wanting to raise our children to our standards. Im not sure why there us so much hate for women wanting to raise children. I think most men would like to raise their children too. Most parents do.
/r/MensRights24/02/21 01:17 PM
-40

I see. So misandry kills people by allowing men to harm other men with impunity. Im not saying its wrong. Its just an interesting take.
/r/MensRights22/02/21 12:38 PM
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Most of these are examples of violence or harm men do to other men. Is the argument that the lack of attention brought to these issues means that it is misandry that is killing these men?
/r/MensRights22/02/21 11:45 AM
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That movie is called 'very bad things'....
/r/MensRights21/02/21 10:01 PM
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You don't see how calling most women ignorant and naive might be construed as being anti women?
/r/MensRights21/02/21 01:22 PM
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Considering how many women I've dated, befriended, and met, most of them are completely ignorant and naive; having no idea how the world works because they are beautiful and have no struggles, no suffering. I've only met a small handful of women who have legitimately good personalities, and it is because they have faced suffering. Are we just pretending this isn't just blatantly misogynistic and anti women? Why are we not downvoting this? This isn't pro men. Its just saying how much they don't l…
/r/MensRights21/02/21 11:16 AM
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What makes you feel like the majority of societal power is held by women? Men have more power in the political and economic spheres. Yet you seem to think women have significantly more power.
/r/MensRights21/02/21 02:44 AM
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Evidence doesn't seem to matter. Not guilty means falsely accused in the MRA handbook I guess. You can almost appreciate the level of hypocrisy in which men are innocent until proven guilty but women can be labeled as false accusing liars without any evidence.
/r/MensRights19/02/21 12:56 PM
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I can only guess that women are more likely to over emphasise their feelings and I highly doubt that women are more depressed than men when the world is already in favour of them. This seems pretty dismissive. Women very well could suffer from depression more than men. You may think women have it easier but few women think that. Everyone in this world has it tough and assuming depressed women are just over reacting because they are women is pretty condescending.
/r/MensRights19/02/21 12:08 PM
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Since when is the mens rights movement so anti trans? I always assume they were supportive of trans men.
/r/MensRights18/02/21 09:17 PM
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All we have to do is not fall for the trap that they think is so amazing and a privilege to behold and suddenly they have absolutely no power. This scares the shit out of them because suddenly they realize they're getting what they want and their Plan B (men and marriage) is now gone. What do they do? Oh no... Now they have to work for the rest of their lives and they have no sucker to fall back on and be the sugar daddy for when shit gets hard, welcome to what it's like to be a man sweetheart. …
/r/MensRights18/02/21 12:38 PM
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Standing up for people to be innocent until proven guilty isnt something you do occasionally. Its something that needs to be upheld all the time. Its NEVER okay to declare someone guilty without a fair trial. False accusations ruin lives. So I will continue to defend those that have been falsely accused even if you feel otherwise. Words do have an impact, which is why we should not be declaring people guilty of heinous crimes without any trial or evidence.
/r/MensRights17/02/21 02:51 PM
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A worthy goal and I wish you the best of luck. I just don't think declaring someone guilty without a trial is the way to achieve that goal. I think it will just make the problem worse.
/r/MensRights17/02/21 02:24 PM
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Then society needs to be better about not treating people as guilty when they have not been convicted yet. Men shouldn't be treated as rapists based on accusations and women shouldn't be treated as false accusers based on accusations. So articles claiming false allegations without proof like the one you shared literally go against the very concept of not judging people before they are convicted. Just seems kind of hypocritical to me.
/r/MensRights17/02/21 01:41 PM
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Yes. I wish this man recieved the same treatment. Alas he didn't and he ended up dead. So why is this article and many people doing the same thing to the woman by declaring her allegations false?
/r/MensRights17/02/21 01:11 PM
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Wtf? He went to a tribunal just to get someone else's pay lowered? Why would anyone be that petty? Cheering for equal footing is one thing if it elevates everyone but cheering for someone else to get less just so you feel better is beyond sad.
/r/MensRights17/02/21 12:32 PM
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Being found not guilty is not that same as a false accusation. No one will ever know if he was guilty or if it was a false accusation. But accusations caused this man to take his own life. Accusing a woman of lying about the rape without evidence to support that is just as bad. Edit: I'll never understand why thinking men and women should be innocent until proven guilty gets downvotes.
/r/MensRights17/02/21 12:15 PM
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I think everyone should be innocent until proven guilty. And everyone should report crimes that happen to them regardless of evidence. Society just needs to be better about not jumping to conclusions. People should not have assumed this man was a rapist and the people on this sub should not have assumed this woman was a false accuser. Both labels were unfair but I was downvoted into oblivion for pointing that out.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 06:36 PM
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No I'm not. I'm advocating for not accusing someone of a false accusation with no evidence to support that accusation. I believe in innocent until proven guilty. Which is why I'm against calling this person a false accused without evidence. I've said that countless times in this thread.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 06:13 PM
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So you're advice to the many males that are being sexually assaulted is to shut up and not tell anyone unless they can prove it. Yikes....
/r/MensRights16/02/21 05:17 PM
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That may be the most logical solution. That said, if that were the case Cosby and weinstein would be free men. There's no right answer. But accusing women of false allegations without evidence is not a solution and people here doing it are part of the problem.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 02:21 PM
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But its ENTIRELY possible that all she did was a report a very real crime. And you want to punish her for that? If a 12 year old boy says his female teacher raped him. And there is not enough evidence to convict the teacher. Should the boy be punished? There is no evidence he lied. Just not enough evidence to convict the teacher. Everyone would be scared to report a rape if we punished people just because they didn't come forward with hard proof.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 01:51 PM
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I believe we shouldn't convict men or women in the trial of public opinion. I can't for the life if me see why people don't agree with that. Who in their right mind thinks we can assume someone is a criminal without evidence or a trial? The stigma of accusation caused a man to take his life and the response is to accuse someone else? With no evidence or trial? Why are people okay with that? Its blatantly hypocritical and goes against everything this group claims to stand for. But I'm the bad guy…
/r/MensRights16/02/21 01:36 PM
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Yeah. I figured it was just worth pointing out the hypocrisy of people complaining about innocent until proven guilty while simultaneously declaring a woman guilty with no evidence or trial to support that accusation. But I guess people were already aware of the hypocrisy. They just don't care.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 01:21 PM
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I see. So if a woman comes forward with an allegation, it is on her to prove it with hard evidence or else she is a false accuser. Sounds like a great justice system. I wonder why more men and women dont come forward...
/r/MensRights16/02/21 01:06 PM
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Thats because there is no evidence this was a false accusation. There was not enough evidence to convict him, that doesn't mean the accuser is lying about the incident.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 12:18 PM
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There is ZERO evidence that this was a false accusation. A not guilty verdict is not the same thing as a false accusation. Assuming as much is no different than assuming someone is guilty without a trial. Edit: here come the downvotes because I believe in innocent until proven guilty for men AND women.
/r/MensRights16/02/21 11:42 AM
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Im pretty sure 99 percent of women are following their respective schools dress code just fine. This comment seems unnecessarily angry and condescending to women. Reminder that mens rights are the goal. Not generalizing all women and saying they 'can't follow the fucking rules'.
/r/MensRights14/02/21 11:23 AM
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I think there is a lot of room between 'wearing revealing clothing' and 'exposing themselves'. Im skeptical a man would get expelled for wearing a shirt with a thin strap.
/r/MensRights13/02/21 11:51 PM
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Forcing a woman to carry a baby to term is inhumane. No mens rights activist should be supporting laws that allow men to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies.
/r/MensRights13/02/21 08:38 PM
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Yes. Those are toxic behaviours. And are examples of females pushing toxic masculinity. What does that have to do with anything? Both men and women reinforce societal norms. No one is trying to blame one side. Theres no need to be defensive.
/r/MensRights13/02/21 06:14 PM
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You don't believe that society pushes men to be as masculine as possible? And that push coming from men and women can force men to act in a detrimental behaviour? Men taking jobs they hate to make more money is tixic masculinity. You don't think that exists? Men taking their own life after losing their job because they feel imasculated is toxic masculinity. You don't think that exists? A bully that is abused at home picking on a less masculine boy so they cam feel like an alpha male is toxic mas…
/r/MensRights13/02/21 12:28 PM
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There is so much anger and hate in this comment. You blame women for men choosing to take their own life and then you actually come out and disagree with the comment that we shouldn't generalize all women.
/r/MensRights12/02/21 11:49 AM
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If even mens rights groups don't take men seriously...what chance do men have?
/r/MensRights11/02/21 03:55 PM
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Ray fisher hasn't yet outlined what the abuse was. He is a man though, so people like you have already dismissed his struggle as insignificant.
/r/MensRights11/02/21 03:33 PM
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Who is saying anything about jailing anyone? You seem very focused on purposefully misunderstanding me. I think men who come forward saying they were abused should be taken seriously. I thought everyone thought that. Im unclear why you are being so combative regarding that statement. Why wouldn't anyone think men should be taken seriously when they report abuse?
/r/MensRights11/02/21 02:52 PM
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No. My argument is men don't speak out, because even when they do, they are not taken seriously. Ray Fisher said Whedon was abusive. You may not care if a man is being abused and you may want to dismiss his struggle but I think the mens rights movement should be about supporting men getting the help they need. Not dismissing their abusers as 'mean bosses' and doing nothing about it.
/r/MensRights11/02/21 02:28 PM
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This is why men don't speak out. A man risks his career to say their employer is abusive and its dismissed as ' a mean boss'. I guess he should 'be a man' and 'get over it'. Right?
/r/MensRights11/02/21 01:59 PM
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A man came forward and said whedon was abusive, unprofessional, and gross. A man had the courage to stand up to someone in power that was bullying him. Anyone dismissing these allegations because some of them came from multiple women is doing exactly what this movement should be against. Men should not be dismissed and told to 'tough out' terrible working conditions. The fact that several women have verified Ray Fishers account of Whedons behaviour is even more upsetting. A man stood up to his a…
/r/MensRights11/02/21 12:24 PM
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The ones educating young minds are a no Brainer. Why would anyone think sexists or racists should be allowed to teach children?
/r/MensRights09/02/21 02:55 PM
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Agreed. But that 'same' is sexists being fired. Not a tremendous show of support from mens rights activists or feminists. People need to call out BS like this. Not defend it.
/r/MensRights09/02/21 01:34 PM
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If the quote posted on one of these comments is accurate, the dude deserved to be canned. You can't say women aren't as capable of societal development than men and expect to keep you job at a university. You shouldn't be able to keep a job flipping burgers making sexist statements like that. Its not different than the courts saying men aren't as capable of raising children. "Women aren't capable of what men are capable of. Without men, women would likely revert to a primitive life based on hort…
/r/MensRights09/02/21 01:09 PM
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All these upvotes on a comment saying women are useless....and people wonder why outsiders think the mens rights movement is anti women?
/r/MensRights09/02/21 12:54 PM
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I see. So the argument being put forth in the aforementioned comment is that society teaches women to falsely accuse men of things. And that's acceptable dialogue. And if feminists argue that society teaches men to rape through rape culture. That would be okay too. Comments like 'young men have been taught that a women not saying no means yes' are not sexist and perfectly fine. Or 'young men believe its acceptable to get women very drunk and have sex with them because society tells them its okay…
/r/MensRights08/02/21 02:21 PM
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Wow. You can excuse all sexism that way. if a feminist says young men are disgusting rapists because they are taught by society to be disgusting rapists would you not consider that an attack on men? Lets not pretend for a second people would be okay with that comment. People should call out posts like that. Not bend over backwards to defend them.
/r/MensRights08/02/21 01:57 PM
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The top comment on protecting yourself from sexual assault allegations is "Young women are taught they are victims. Everything that happens and they don't like it. They will obsove themselves." Criticizing all young women and making them look like false accusers is a pretty anti women narrative isnt it? That was THE MOST upvoted comment. Directly attacking all young women. You may say the anti man narrative is stronger...but that's pretty damning if you ask me. The anti women narrative seems pre…
/r/MensRights08/02/21 01:41 PM
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Seems like you're saying conversations about how to avoid being victimized by men are hateful. But conversations about how to avoid being victimized by women with a false allegation is okay. There's a post less than 12 hours ago about someone asking how they can protect themselves from false allegations from women in the dating world. Conversations about how you can protect yourself from being victimized by the other sex is either okay or not. Its hard to argue its okay for men but when women do…
/r/MensRights08/02/21 01:26 PM
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You seem to feel that women talking about how to avoid being victimized by men is an attack on men. Do you feel men talking about 'the pence rule' is an attack on women? Are these things any different at all? Many men recommend the pence rule in dealing with the opposite sex. Do you think the pence rule creates a 'women are evil' narrative and is self-victimization of men? Or are you tired of women talking about it but okay with men talking about it?
/r/MensRights08/02/21 12:26 PM
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If every one of Weinstein accusers or cosby's accusers were anonymous, they would not have been convicted. Because others with more evidence may not have come forward. Anonymous doesn't work either because we've seen it countless times when one person stands up, several more gain the courage to voice their story. What we should be doing, is just not judging people until all the facts come out. Assuming Trump is a rapist makes you an idiot. Assuming AOC is lying about being assaulted also makes y…
/r/MensRights08/02/21 12:10 PM
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True. I post some places and get downvoted to oblivion just because my opinion is different. People don't handle other opinions well.
/r/MensRights08/02/21 02:28 AM
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Agreed. But does this This goes against everything we're supposed to stand for as a society but because it's in favor of women, It's fine? Imagine if you had a Whites Only club and banned people of other races.' Sound like someone that is for gender only groups? Sounds to me like someone who is adamantly against it and when this dude questioned that, he gets downvoted. Kinda seems like people were against these female only groups and called them disgusting. But are all for mens groups. Seems hyp…
/r/MensRights07/02/21 02:39 PM
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Seems the overwhelming opinion is that women only groups are disgusting and everything society is against. Mens only groups are fine though...
/r/MensRights07/02/21 01:18 PM
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Feminists in power doing things that hurt men is bad. Even if they told themselves it was with the best intentions. But are there not examples of good things feminism has done? Like when they campaigned to the FBI to make rape gender neutral? https://msmagazine.com/2011/10/19/update-major-victory-in-rape-is-rape-campaign/ The representation project has questioned male representation in media as being harmful on men that are not hypermasculine. They also write articles on mens health. http://ther…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 02:52 AM
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Yeah, thats fair. No reason not to teach people basic things like consent or how to deescalate domestic situations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/21 11:08 PM
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Im a hetero cis man. I think consent is very important and I have traits within myself that are an embodiment of toxic masculinity. Its not an attack on me. I don't feel attacked by the idea that society tells me that being a tough manly man is very important. Its easy to think toxic masculinity or education on consent is an attack on men but the reality is its a step to make society better. Women should be better at vocalizing when they don't want to have sex and there are examples of femininit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/21 10:23 PM
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A fair analysis. Although you can see from the number of downvotes on my comment that its not a popular opinion to think sexism here should be called out. Theres even a bunch of upvotes on the guy defending the sexist post. Not a great look.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 10:00 PM
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Feminism deserves criticism. There are many parts of it that I don't necessarily agree with. The core tenants however being equality for women which I Very much agree with. I think mens lib is fine. Its open discussion about men's rights and issues without being hostile to anyone. That level of acceptance creates a space that is more likely to have outsiders come in. If you immediately make everyone that identifies as a feminist angry, there is no discourse and no progress is made. You just get …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/21 09:45 PM
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You can be a feminist and a mens rights activists. I do it every day. But you do have to ignore a lot of people that blame feminism for all of men's problems. Which is pretty hyperbolic in my opinion. Some aspects of feminism have caused problems for mem but the majority of the feminist movement is about making life better for women. No reason to dislike that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/21 08:34 PM
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Watch any action movie. Thats celebrating mens strength, determination, protective instincts, and all around manliness. Same with sports. Athletes are worshipped in society.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 07:16 PM
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This article grossly misunderstands what the sociological concept of toxic masculinity refers too. There is nothing wrong with male traits. Most are celebrated within are society. Its when those traits become so extreme that they begin to be destructive, thats when it becomes toxic. Toxic relationship doesn't mean all relationships are toxic. Just like toxic masculinity does not mean all masculinity is toxic. All traits when seen in extremes are toxic. Why would anyone think male traits are any …
/r/MensRights06/02/21 06:25 PM
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This sub does not 'clearly hate women'. No argument there. But I don't think this sub does enough to call out comments form people that do. A big difference between mens rights and mens lib. Comments like the one I discussed are anchors around the mens rights movement and real progress. They should not be getting upvotes instead of people calling them out. Sometimes damage can be done through inaction. If you saw a comment that says 'you know what I dislike about men? They hit women'. And then c…
/r/MensRights06/02/21 02:54 PM
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This was an upvoted comment an hour ago. If I only need to go back an hour...there may be issues. "Okay. So this in my opinion is one of the most annoying things about dealing with women, this usually happens in the workplace more than anywhere else. But they will team up and try to shame/shun men by avoiding them or making it clear that they don’t like him. This usually happens as a result of one woman making up some dirt and then telling the whole flock. Men never do that type of stuff in my e…
/r/MensRights06/02/21 02:39 PM
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Mens lib discusses mens issues. This is a good thing. More discussion about men's issues is a huge step in the success of men's rights. Mens lib also gets WAY less criticism for being anti-woman than this sub or MGTOW as those subs have a lot less moderation. So no, they don't attack feminism. They don't paint false accusations as a modern day witch hunt that affects most men. And they dont outright deny toxic masculinity or a history of women being oppressed. But that's exactly what mens rights…
/r/MensRights06/02/21 02:23 PM
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Well, the lady in this video said the pay gap was real dozens of times. So I think she disagrees with you. She went as far as to say 'to say that the pay gap isn't real, would be silly.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 03:17 AM
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Obviously the pay gap is real. Thats just math. Its the reasons for the pay gap that are debatable.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 03:02 AM
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With men getting falsely accused and women getting sexually assaulted in college in record numbers, its a wonder anyone is willing to pay thousands of dollars to attend these schools.
/r/MensRights05/02/21 06:00 PM
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Saying someone is justified in violence is literally condoning it.
/r/MensRights05/02/21 04:57 PM
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If you act violently towards your partner in a divorce, you can ruin your life. Don't condone that behaviour. It doesn't help men.
/r/MensRights05/02/21 03:57 PM
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Does hitting your wife during a messy divorce usually end well for men? Or poorly? You're making it seem like a bit of violence will allow them to get what they want. But it will cost them what they want. Violence during a messy divorce will ruin ANY chance you have at seeing your children. Why would you suggest thats okay? Are you for real? Trying to justify this person saying violence is acceptable in a legal battle is terrifying. Why are people upvoting this? Do not, I repeat, DO NOT strike y…
/r/MensRights05/02/21 02:50 PM
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So you would be okay with feminists saying most men in poweronly care about men and largely discriminate against women? You wouldn't find that statement sexist? I know I would....
/r/MensRights05/02/21 02:34 PM
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The push for men to be more manly is leading to suicides, depression and drug use. This is all of societies fault. Men and both women push men to be as masculine as possible and this has had terrible effects on men. Either they are so bent on success that they steamroll others or they feel so Inferior to those types that they struggle their entire life. Toxic masculinity or extreme gender roles hurt men. Suggesting it doesn't exist or laying the blame squarely on women isn't helping.
/r/MensRights05/02/21 02:16 PM
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"If someone is taking away your home and your children then I think that you are quite justified in behaving violently towards them." Yikes. This guy was a bit off his rocker.
/r/MensRights05/02/21 01:05 PM
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"women 'with power' seem, by and large, to be concerned only for themselves and for the bankrupt feminist cause. They tend to be selfish, deceitful and committed to discriminating against men wherever they can" This guy was actively against women having any power at all. A perfect example of when you are so pro men, that you become anti women. The mens rights movement needs to be better than that or they will just become exactly the same as feminists saying that they don't support men being in p…
/r/MensRights05/02/21 12:34 PM
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Society makes fun of men for not being manly enough. It is far less common to see society making fun of women for not being womanly enough. Thats what toxic masculinity is. Society pushing men to be so manly that it leads to suicides when you lose your job, depression when you can't get women, and drug use when you feel like you aren't living up to societal standards of what a man is. If you're wondering why men have it harder than women, it's because society has decided that men that aren't man…
/r/MensRights05/02/21 12:12 PM
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Taken from one of the upvoted comments "No, your average man is not actively out to get women and on average you will not have bad experiences with men. The caveat is that it will only take one bad experience with a man to cause a lot of damage, of course." Are these feminists really as unreasonable as people say?
/r/MensRights05/02/21 01:52 AM
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Sigh. She said she heard doors slamming and people yelling at 1:00. There is nothing to suggest that was a lie. The building went to lockdown when the main building was breached. Which is why she was scared. And why anyone else would be. The idea that she can't have been scared because insurgents weren't in the building yet is just sad. She had NO clue where the insurgents were. Thats why she was scared. And people call her a liar because they didn't actually take her building over for an hour? …
/r/MensRights05/02/21 01:14 AM
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Uhhhh. Wrong. Every account says police were responding to potential explosives at 1 pm and the capital was stormed before 1:00. If you're going to post this article in between sad and lonely comments to naked women on the internet, you should make sure its accurate. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/12/us/capitol-mob-timeline.html
/r/MensRights05/02/21 12:43 AM
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She said she heard yelling at 1pm. This is the same time the capital was breached. Likely, all the officers in her area were quickly responding and slamming doors and yelling. This is obviously scary. She was then told to shelter in place for hours and pushing furniture against the doors so no one could enter. eventually the building was evacuated. This is obviously scary. Pro trump extremists took the capital and she is one of the most hated people in those circles. That is obviously terrifying…
/r/MensRights05/02/21 12:28 AM
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I never said it was sexism. I have literally zero idea how much they are paid compared to men. Not really a concern of mine. I just think its dumb to blame it on revenue and just assume men bring in more money when the opposite is true.
/r/MensRights04/02/21 08:40 PM
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According to the wall street journal, USA women's soccer games have generated more revenue for the USSF than the US mens games from 2015 to 2018 when the wall street journal released this report. The rest of your post about sweaty women, and old washed up lesbians just seems kind of petty and contemptuous towards women. https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-womens-soccer-games-out-earned-mens-games-11560765600
/r/MensRights04/02/21 07:24 PM
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She said she was in her congressional office. Which she was... but I guess you aren't that concerned with the truth so much as a witch hunt.
/r/MensRights04/02/21 05:34 PM
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I think men and women should both have resources devoted to issues that are plaguing them. I don't really understand what you are getting at. I would never cheer to take away resources from men or women and I gladly support initiatives to curb violence against either sex. Im all for the new initiatives in peurto Rico to curb violence against women. I think we all want less violence against women and I would never be against helping women or men. Are you against helping female victims of domestic…
/r/MensRights04/02/21 02:34 PM
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Im all for more resources to prevent male murder victims. Not sure what you're talking about. I think all victims of crime should get the resources they need. But I think you proved my point on attacking AOC for no reason.
/r/MensRights04/02/21 02:15 PM
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Feminist and MRA subreddits tend to get this way. Or political subreddits for that matter. The goals tend to take a back seat to proving that your side is right and their side is wrong. It gets to the point that people will downplay bad actions if their side is doing them even when they would normally be against that type of behaviour. Watching people on this subreddit attack AOC for saying she was sexually assaulted really highlights the hypocrisy. I don't think anyone here would attack a male …
/r/MensRights04/02/21 01:59 PM
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Here's an article of Rob Lowe being blasted for his comments about it. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rob-lowe-sex-tape-best-thing-ever-happened-backlash-223715347.html
/r/MensRights03/02/21 01:08 PM
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According to the bureau of justice statistics, 200,000 people were raped / sexually assaulted in America in 2019. Do you feel that is the real number or the fake number that is being used to push an agenda?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/21 03:52 AM
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Bullshit. Rape is the only "crime" with more than 40% of false accusations. The reason for your complaints is too ensure those 40% get no scrutiny. Why did you put quotes around crime? Do you not think rape is a real crime so it gets quotations? Wtf?
/r/MensRights03/02/21 01:06 AM
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Schools seem to be very strict regarding their rules about not sleeping with people that are very drunk. If you think a woman is too drunk to remember consenting to sex, better to get the hell out of there.
/r/MensRights02/02/21 09:21 PM
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There have long been reports that trauma continues to layer over time and it can make traumatic events even more traumatic. I wish AOC well in her recovery from the incident at the capital as well as any past issues she may be dealing with. Sexual assault is far too common in our society.
/r/MensRights02/02/21 07:26 PM
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Downvoted for not attacking a woman because she said she was assaulted. I wonder why people think mens rights groups have issues with women...
/r/MensRights02/02/21 01:04 PM
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My exact quote was 'people here would call him brave' You responded by saying no one would support a man that said he was sexually assaulted. I was specifically talking about people in this group. You don't need to get defensive and start name calling. You clearly just read my comment incorrectly.
/r/MensRights02/02/21 12:08 PM
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Im just saying we shouldn't attack someone for saying they were sexually assaulted. I really don't think that is Misandry. I would think all people would agree with that statement. And you disagree that people in a mens rights group would be supportive of a man that said he was sexually assaulted? Im quite certain you are incorrect. People in this group are very supportive when a man says he was assaulted. They don't usually attack them at all. Its just liberal women that seem to get that treatm…
/r/MensRights02/02/21 11:53 AM
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If a man said he was sexually assaulted and that trauma from that is compounded with other trauma. People here would call him brave. Support him and offer him an opportunity to talk to someone if needed. AOC says it, and people call her names, want to impeach her, make jokes that she was the assailant, and suggest it is a false accusation. Im not sure if there is a bias against women, or a bias against liberals...but my God. The vitriolic response to a woman saying she was sexually assaulted is …
/r/MensRights02/02/21 10:46 AM
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How dare this woman be insecure about her body!? The audacity. Lets all clutch our pearls and get offended at a women going through real issues that we've all faced to some extent...
/r/MensRights01/02/21 11:50 PM
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Reminder that most women are completely fine. It can seem otherwise being inundated with countless horror stories but I've dated many women, lived with multiple women, married one. Most people you meet are perfectly fine and respect both men and women. Its easy to get caught up in fear and paranoia but its likely not helpful.
/r/MensRights01/02/21 08:39 PM
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Most women don't want to sit home and have babies which is their right, but if we aren't having kids and the kids we are having are seriously damaged is this really the right choice There are more women in the workforce now than ever before in history. Crime rates in North America are also the lowest they have ever been in history. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm This just reads as blaming women for societal problems and thinking women need to go back to being homemakers to fix t…
/r/MensRights01/02/21 12:17 PM
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The opinion that men should treat each other with respect instead of belittling one another is valid everywhere.
/r/MensRights01/02/21 01:23 AM
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This group "Men need to be accepted when they open up about their feelings but feminists always shoot us down" Man: "says feelings" This group: "this is dumb and you're as bad as feminists" This group : "when will feminists stop silencing male feelings?"
/r/MensRights31/01/21 11:02 PM
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Some feminists loudly support male victims of domestic violence. They're the real MVPs. https://thefword.org.uk/2016/03/is-domestic-violence-against-men-a-feminist-issue/
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:46 PM
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I see. So no trial or conviction yet but you are taking glee in the fact that his life will be shattered by an allegation of assault. Seems you aren't all that worried about false allegations after all.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 02:48 PM
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People are responding to the news with laughter and 'this makes me smile.' Reading a report about domestic violence shouldn't make you smile. Ever. You can say its because of irony or because you didn't like this guy's politics but you can't chastise society for not taking domestic violence against men seriously and then simultaneously laugh in response to a domestic violence incident. Its not a good look.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 02:28 PM
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If you are afraid of black people because of those incidents, would a black person calling you racist help? Obviously not. Getting to know some good black people would be far more helpful than someone lecturing you about how horrible you are.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 01:32 PM
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Its hard to argue people here take domestic violence seriously with the number of people that are happy that this guy hit his wife. Or take false allegations seriously with the number of people that are happy about it potentially being true in this scenario. Be better than that. Mens rights groups need to be better than that.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 01:04 PM
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So its funny if he hit his wife. And its even funnier if she's lying about it to ruin his life? Like him or not, im not sure I get the humor regarding domestic violence.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 12:48 PM
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Who is 'they'? The police that arrested him? The DA that is pressing charges? Who is the 'they' that he thought would leave him alone?
/r/MensRights31/01/21 12:24 PM
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What makes you feel as though society has told women that they bear no responsibility for the health of society? For generations women have done the brunt of the child rearing and when a kid or teen screws up its always the 'where were the parents'. In this new wave of women in the workforce, women are politicians, vice presidents, and world leaders. I don't think anyone in today's society can say women are not shaping society and responsible for the health of said society. With so many women in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/21 11:59 AM
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Unfortunately, you don't get to decide who is afraid of who. You can't shame women into being less afraid. Its not as though women wake up in the morning and choose what they will be afraid of for that day and you need to convince them to stop choosing men. If you want women to be less afraid of men, we as men just need to try and make women feel less afraid. Thats literally all we can do. Getting worked up about how they better stop being afraid of you and they are as bad as racists will not he…
/r/MensRights31/01/21 03:36 AM
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You're assuming people here want inspired and educated discussion and not an echo chamber to reinforce ideologies they already view as factual.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 01:47 AM
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Which subreddits do you find are hateful. I will browse and report hateful content as well. Just let me know which ones you find to be guilty of hate speech.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/21 10:55 PM
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Im not sure the suggestion that the majority of women fighting for women's rights in American history were not feminists has much credibility. Its a pretty bold claim to make without any facts to back it up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/21 02:54 PM
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Maybe. Do you know of any women's rights activists in history that have ever done it? Id be interested to read something like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/21 12:34 PM
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All feminism is anti male seems like a stretch to me. Feminists in Saudi Arabia have pushed to allow women to get passports without male approval, travel independently, and drive. Pretty hard to argue those feminists are anti male. You can make the case that feminists today and in western countries are anti male but making the case that all feminists in history are anti-male and feminism itself is anti male makes it look like you are criticizing the historical push for necessary developments in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/21 11:48 AM
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By this logic, Bill Cosby's accusers and Harvey Weinstein's accusers were probably lying. All dozens of them. Assuming something is a false allegation is just as presumptuous and wrong as assuming someone is a sexual assaulter I think its best to let the police do their job rather than deciding who is innocent or guilty of false accusations/ sexual assault in the court of public opinion.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 08:09 PM
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This sub is generally against the idea of pushing gender roles on men but then China starts pushing gender roles on men and everyone seems to be cheering for it. I don't really understand it.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 02:55 PM
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I guess its possible that all 4 women that have accused him of being sleazy are lying. But it seems more likely that he is kind of sleazy. I don't feel the need to defend him just because he is a man like me. As I said. The best you can possibly hope for is kissing girls that are hammered and graphically sexting a woman in a relationship. those two things are confirmed. Seems strange to go out of my way and say he's not sleazy when there's valid proof of him doing sleazy things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/21 02:29 PM
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But best case scenario this guy is kissing girls that are hammered, describing sex acts he wants to do to women in a relationship, and was widely seen as someone that is chasing women by getting them drunk. Definitely not sexual assault. I agree. But definitely not very classy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/21 01:43 PM
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3 women reported inappropriate behaviour from this guy and one had screenshots of a dicey conversation. Im not saying he is guilty, but I'm not about to lead the charge that he is innocent. People believe in innocent until guilty but seem to have no problem accusing women of false allegations. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/21 12:46 PM
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No feminist is asking for men to admit they are evil and never open their mouth. If you're going to make a case against working with feminism, at least take the time to make it a real one. Not just hyperbolic nonsense to make yourself a victim.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 12:22 PM
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Bridging the gap between feminists and mens rights activists would be one of the greatest thing MRAs could do. Feminism has the framework, resources, and proven ability to make changes in the world. But most would rather point fingers and blame feminism than actually try to work together. People care more about who to blame than actually trying to make things better for men. The mere suggestion of working together will bring downvotes and anger from people. Best of luck.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 11:57 AM
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The overwhelming majority of rape cases remain unsolved. Conviction rates are incredibly low. How do you figure 'truth will come out? It very rarely does. 98 percent of the time, there's no evidence it did or didn't happen and no one will ever know the truth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/21 04:17 AM
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Thinking men should praised for basic household responsibilities is patronizing and sad. Why are people upvoting this? No one should be praised for doing basic household responsibilities, man or woman. Thats just part of being an adult.
/r/MensRights28/01/21 11:01 PM
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We will see what happens in court. Until then though, her life will be ruined with all the media press about this case. The same thing that happens to men when they are accused of assault but not convicted. Its a shame what the media does to people before they are convicted.
/r/MensRights28/01/21 05:58 PM
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and let’s face it, all women are gold diggers if they are after a relationship Yikes.
/r/MensRights28/01/21 04:01 AM
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The Supreme Court said that young boys can be abused as long as it is above the clothes. I don't know why you would think thats not an issue for men. Abuse as a child is absolutely a mens rights issue. Do you honestly feel men should just ignore boys being legally molested?
/r/MensRights27/01/21 11:57 PM
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If you think it should be legal for a woman to sexually assault a man because it was above his clothing, you are not a mens rights activists.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 10:43 PM
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And with the recent ruling of the Supreme Court, these women could say it was above the clothes so it does not constitute sexual assault.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 09:31 PM
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Yes. The focus of the article is definitely on women and children. But obviously men will be victimized by this law as they will be sexually assaulted as well and their assailant will not go to jail. Is that not a mens rights issue? You think its not an issue for mens rights because the article posted didn't make men the focus? Men being legally sexually assaulted is definitely a mens rights issue to me.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 09:16 PM
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How so? Men are sexually assaulted as well aren't they? Do you think only women are sexually assaulted because that's blatantly not true.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 09:00 PM
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Maybe instead of trying to hypothesize about if men or women are bigger perverts, it would make more sense to just say that some people are perverts and some people aren't. The contant bickering of 'their side is worse than us' does nothing to help anyone. It just makes people look desperate to point fingers at other people and generalize.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 08:23 PM
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I think if you disagree with the statement that women shouldn't be objectified, you may not be a shining example of what mens rights groups should be about.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 06:41 PM
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Wait, you disagree with the statement that women shouldn't be objectified in movies? What? You can have whatever feelings you want. Nothing wrong with that and no one should criticize you for them. But if you're directing a movie and the only casting requirement you have for your female lead is 'super hot' and you spend countless scene time showing every curve of her body and no other characteristics....'cough Michael Bay'. you may be objectifying women. And I think most people agree that's stup…
/r/MensRights27/01/21 06:11 PM
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This article doesn't mention toxic masculinity once and it is entirely about the female gaze. I don't think women complaining about objectification in cinema is a mens rights issue. Women shouldn't be objectified in cinema. I think men and women all agree with that. The article uses the scene in Michael Bays transformers with Megan Fox as a primary example. And it is kinda sad.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 05:56 PM
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Most of the western European countries were much closer together between men and women. This may explain why they rank much higher on gender equality scales to this day.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 04:42 PM
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Universal white male suffrage was achieved in America in 1856. 64 years later America enacted universal female suffrage. The Civil War, Spanish American War, and ww1 all fell with this gap. https://www.britannica.com/story/voting-in-the-usa
/r/MensRights27/01/21 03:54 PM
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Coming home from war and not being able to vote would definitely be terrible. Not coming home at all would be terrible too. War is a terrible thing and hopefully the world continues in its trends of less global conflict related deaths.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 01:06 PM
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Who is actively protesting men getting access to support?
/r/MensRights27/01/21 05:41 AM
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Hmm. Im a big because of some law I've never read or ever talked about. Thats sound logic.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 04:28 AM
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I don't even know what is in the VAWA. I find it hard to believe im to blame for some act I've never read. But if labeling people is so important to you I guess go nuts.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 02:29 AM
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Nope. I support helping all victims of violence and I would never be against helping any victims. You seem to just dislike me so much that you decide to make wild accusations to make yourself feel better. It would be funny if it wasn't making mens rights activists look like extremists. Mens rights activists need to push to help men. Not to alienate other men because they aren't extreme enough.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 01:45 AM
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I don't support any discrimination. You just seem to think that anyone that isn't exactly like you is the enemy and you want to shut down any thoughts from anyone that isn't exactly like you. The definition of an echochamber that pushes people to extremism. You continue pushing people to one side or the other and it will only make it harder to make changes in society and changes to help men are necessary. Its terrible for the mens rights movement to encourage extremism.
/r/MensRights27/01/21 01:29 AM
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This sub has become a mirror image of feminism. Too many people blame women for societies treatment of men just like too many women blame men for how society treats women. Alas, neither side can fix society without cooperation from 50 percent so I don't understand it. Men are discriminated against and women are not to blame. Women are discriminated against and men are not to blame. Seems people would rather spend time deciding who to blame and what offends them rather than discussing positive st…
/r/MensRights27/01/21 12:16 AM
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I think we both know i don't support discrimination. You're just upset.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 10:02 PM
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I think you might be getting defensive. It's understandable in today's climate to men. But let's not become feminists and accept everyone who disagrees with being the enemy. Thats no different than them. Extremism is never a good idea.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 08:58 PM
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Yes I would. Whatever I did to offend you, im sorry.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 08:27 PM
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Exactly. Like how arachnophobia is a societal discrimination against spiders. /s The girl is mentally ill and needs to disclose this information prior to living arrangements. Fear and hate are two different things. Fear is acceptable. Hate is not.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 06:10 PM
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I never said that. You should want men to be helped. I certainly Do. You just shouldn't cheer against women being helped. Cheering against women being helped is when pro man becomes anti women. One of those I encourage. One I don't.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 04:30 PM
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Im misandric because I think women that complain about domestic violence should be taken seriously instead of ignored by peurto Rico police? Do you understand how crazy that sounds? I guess going online and trying to stop this initiative to stop women from being murdered is what equality is. Encouraging women to get help and be helped is misandry. What a world.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 04:06 PM
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Let's help all people is my logic. You're the one fighting to stop helping women. Not me. I've never suggested men shouldn't be helped.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 03:51 PM
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Exactly. Like I said. I agree now. More men die than women so trying to stop women from dying is sexist. All domestic violence aid going to women should be cancelled because mens rights groups don't like helping women. Im on board now. You win.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 03:28 PM
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These resources can be dedicated to women. And other resources dedicated to men. At risk youth programs, gang prevention, drug counseling. All programs that can be geared towards men as they suffer disproportionately in those areas. Domestic violence however, women (in peurto Rico at least) are suffering disproportionately. So absolutely gear programs there. I can't for the life of me see why anyone would have a problem with that but it seems everyone on the mens rights group does.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 02:11 PM
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No. I'm saying we should help all victims. So fighting against helping people because they don't look like you is foolish. Money going to breast cancer research is being denied to prostate cancer victims. I still don't protests breast cancer charities. That would be foolish as i support what the charity is doing. Just like I support lowering domestic violence rates.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 01:52 PM
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Im not opposing any resources being spent of men. None. You are opposing resources spent on women. And women were ignored after repeated reports of domestic violence. It doesn't take many resources to make sure those officers take the reports seriously. Alas, you are against it and you'd rather peurto Rico continues to ignore thise murders because they should only help men, not women. Im all for helping men and women. You've actively spoken against helping women. Hard to argue im the one that's …
/r/MensRights26/01/21 01:37 PM
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Your candy example changed my mind. You're right. They should go back to ignoring domestic violence cases until the women end up dead. That way some men won't be offended. Dealing with this issue and getting police to take these reports seriously is just not fair to men.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 01:22 PM
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I see. So you are against any type of program to curb violence and help people unless it helps men. Programs to help women dont hurt men, but you feel that doing anything to help anyone that isn't a man is the equivalent of hurting men. Peurto Rico doesn't have the highest murder rates in the world of men. Just domestic violence murders. Seems like a decent place to start is the area you are the worst in the world. If less women are abused and murdered in 2021 due to this initiative, isn't it a …
/r/MensRights26/01/21 01:00 PM
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Peurto Rico has a police force that has 17,000 members. They will address any crimes reported by man or woman. But they were failing in regards to domestic violence murders making it worst in the world in regards to women murdered by their partner. Countless reports verified this.The worst in the entire world. But addressing that seems to upset you. Why? Don't you want less women murdered?
/r/MensRights26/01/21 12:44 PM
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There are already police services for regular violence and they were failing in regards to domestic violence. Failing worse than any other police force on earth. They were ignoring repeated domestic violence against women, barely investigating rapes, and it resulted in women dying. All murder is unacceptable, but domestic violence murders in which police ignored repeated abuses should not be ignored. So they go to change that..and mens rights activists are mad about it? Men will not be hurt by t…
/r/MensRights26/01/21 12:29 PM
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Read the results from a report on domestic violence from 2012. And ask your self, should peurto Rico deal with this or continue to ignore the problem? I say it's about time they dealt with the domestic violence issues in the area. I don't know why mens rights activists would be against it. No one is for domestic violence. 'A 2012 report from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) stated that Puerto Rico had the highest per capita rate in the world of women over 14 killed by their partners. In…
/r/MensRights26/01/21 11:40 AM
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A 2012 report found peurto Rico had the highest number of women killed by their partner per capita, in the world. The highest in the world. And the peurto rico government takes steps to combat that and its 'such bull shit'? What?
/r/MensRights26/01/21 11:25 AM
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Wait, Mandates to stop sexual harassment in the workplace, make pay equal, and raise the quality of life for women in male dominated fields will only make misogyny worse? Those are the things OP is combining about. Do you think government mandates to help him get harassed less and paid the same would be bad? How?
/r/MensRights25/01/21 04:56 PM
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She has a no nudity clause for all directors. She said she would consider nudity if it was a movie about how the body changes after childbirth and a female was telling the story. "If it was about motherhood, about how extraordinary that body is, about how suddenly you're looking at this body that you've got to know and is your own and it's seen in a completely different way and it's changed in ways which are unfathomable to you before you become a mother, then yeah, I would totally be up for exp…
/r/MensRights25/01/21 01:53 PM
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From an MRA perspective, I can see where you are coming from. So few jobs are female dominated at a management level that of you go into it its your choice. From a femenist perspective, lots of jobs have only male bosses as males are more likely to push for promotions, work longer hours, and need less flexible schedules. So they deserve said promotions, no argument there. But there are hundreds of thousands of business small and large where the decision makers are dominated by men. Would you tel…
/r/MensRights25/01/21 01:27 PM
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Agreed. But countless testimonies from men and women say thats not happening. So the official MRA reaction to discrimination against men in the workplace is 'lets just hope it gets better' and thats why I'm being downvoted? Getting more men in these fields should be encouraged so there is a more even gender distribution and more equitable treatment of men. Shouldnt that be the goals of MRAs? Or just focusing on curbing sexism against men as long as it doesn't highlight and prove sexism against w…
/r/MensRights25/01/21 01:11 PM
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So to clarify, because upper management is dominated by women, This man feels they are paid less, have to explain their quality of work more, their ideas are questioned more, and they feel that the workplace is hostile to them. I would say it checks out though because its all the same things women complain about when men are the majority in management. This would suggest a healthy balance of gender within a field and especially within management is the ideal to avoid situations like these. Edit:…
/r/MensRights25/01/21 12:11 PM
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I think encouraging men to go into nursing and teaching would be great. Why would anyone be against that? Healthy representation of both genders within any field is obviously better.
/r/MensRights25/01/21 03:11 AM
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Agreed. Which makes one wonder why my comment calling out sexism is so heavily downvoted.
/r/MensRights25/01/21 02:32 AM
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These were homes where they sent unwed mothers to have babies. The fathers were not usually in the picture. And the conditions were terrible. Sending single mothers away to horrid living conditions so that they don't soil the family reputation is deeply misogynistic and it resulted in a lot of children dying. Mens rights is not about denying anything bad has happened to women. This was a horrible thing done to tens of thousands of women by an antiquated and traditionalist sect of society and it …
/r/MensRights24/01/21 12:35 PM
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Playing cards aren't sexist. But the generalized statement that women are not paying their own bills is sexist. There's a certain amount of irony in complaining about fake sexism with real sexiam.
/r/MensRights24/01/21 12:16 PM
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I can't imagine registered therapists say things like this. Or friends. Perhaps the problem is confiding in strangers on the internet instead of real people.
/r/MensRights23/01/21 04:39 PM
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So you are saying that a these agencies go out of their way to lie to men about the dangers of false allegations, but men already know about the dangers anyway? And that women's groups are so powerful that they have power to change data coming from hundreds of international sources? Which women's group is so powerful that it can manipulate FBI data? Just all of the feminist organizations in general or is there one group that you feel is responsible for all of this manipulation?
/r/MensRights23/01/21 02:23 PM
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presumably to keep society turning and make males unaware of how much danger they face. So universities, police, the fbi, multiple countries' governments, and countless victimization surveys have all got together and decided to try and keep men unaware of the danger they face through false allegations? Wouldn't all those agencies WANT men afraid of false allegations so they approach dating and sex with more caution? Or are you saying all those agencies are pushing false numbers so that more wome…
/r/MensRights23/01/21 02:01 PM
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I was told if I care about equality for females I am a feminist. If I care about equality in mens issues, im an MRA. Can I be both? Or do I have to choose a side?
/r/MensRights23/01/21 01:04 PM
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This did nothing to debunk the idea that false allegations are rare. It just made the case that rapes without evidence COULD be false allegations. But they could also be real allegations. Assuming they are false allegations without evidence is just as bad as assuming they are real without evidence. Or arguably worse because it will deter future women from coming forward. Claims should be investigated and a lack of evidence should mean no conviction, it does not mean that women should be accused …
/r/MensRights23/01/21 11:54 AM
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You can blame men and feminism if you want. Thats up to you. I just prefer to focus on solutions.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 08:22 PM
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The blame game doesn't help anyone. Thats why blaming men or blaming feminism is just childish and doesn't help solve the problem.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 07:51 PM
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So you feel that even though minority business were more affected, the exact same amount of money needs to go into white businesses and minority businesses? Do you think the same amount of money should go into male and female homelessness? Or should they target male homelessness because males are more affected? Businesses hit harder should get more. Regardless of skin colour. So target the business that got hit hardest. Which will mean more to minority businesses but so be it.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 02:09 PM
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I see. The concept of toxic masculinity is hurtful to men. It leads to suicide, depression, and drug abuse and a lack of self confidence in men. But toxic femininity is a funny joke. Thats equality for you.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 01:54 PM
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Right. Ignoring a whilte owned business in shambles because an immigrant business had a slight dip in profits doesn't make sense. But there is no indication that there are plans to do that. Targeting minority business does not mean ignore others. It means they took a disproportionate amount of the hit so they will get a proportionate amount of the response. If minority business took a 15 percent bigger hit, they should get 15 percent more of the response. Which means specifically targeting those…
/r/MensRights22/01/21 01:34 PM
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But according to the studies, targeting businesses that have struggled the most, is the same as targeting immigrant owned businesses. So you don't really have a problem with what he's doing. Just how he said it. If he said 'special targeting to businesses that have suffered the most' i imagine you would be okay with that. And according to studies, that would result in targeting minority owned businesses.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 01:11 PM
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But its difficult to do an in depth analysis of every business before helping. Immigrant areas has less 'reserves' in terms of savings and immigrants were more likely to be laid off. This cripples business in the immigrant areas. Which is why they have been disproportionately affected and could use more aid. Here is the full study. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27309/w27309.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj559KYyK_uAhVwB50JHf3BCRgQFjAAegQIB…
/r/MensRights22/01/21 12:46 PM
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Toxic femininity would be feminine traits in such extremes that they become negative. How is this an example of that at all? Are you just saying toxic femininity because a woman did something bad and you don't really understand what it means? Or do you have an actual point to make about femininity is large doses?
/r/MensRights22/01/21 12:27 PM
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According to Biden, businesses owned by minorities had less access to resources in the community during covid. According to statistics, he is right. I think prioritizing businesses that were hit the hardest makes sense doesn't it? "According to data from the National Bureau of Economic Research, African American businesses saw a 41% drop in business activity from February until April, Latino businesses saw a 32% drop, and Asian businesses dropped by 26%. Female-owned businesses saw a similarly d…
/r/MensRights22/01/21 12:12 PM
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Its true. And this data has persisted through multiple countries. A recent study claims it is because men are less likely to wear masks and view it as weak. Any man or woman that thinks wearing a mask is weak...is straight up wrong. https://psyarxiv.com/tg7vz?mod=article_inline
/r/MensRights22/01/21 03:05 AM
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Twitter has algorithm that catch 'boyfriend' and 'hit' and throw up a support website. They can't possibly correct for every variation of the key words. No more men are being abused by their girlfriend because of this algorithm and warning. But it might save some women. There are enough battles to be fought by men without looking for more and getting offended by something that doesn't hurt men.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 07:19 PM
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No. Its not the same. 95 percent of the population are fine with both men and women. 95 percent of Germany was not fine with the jews. Germany did not elect a Jewish leader. Most democratically elected politicians were not Jewish. Most judges were not Jewish. Men have their battles, but the idea that society hates them much like Jews in the 40s is simply false and its makes it look like those fighting for mens rights do not have a foothold in reality. If society hated Men, society wouldn't put t…
/r/MensRights21/01/21 06:26 PM
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Comparing men today to jews in the 40s is hyperbolic, volatile, offensive to Jewish people, and not an accurate representation of society. Men have real issues to deal with but no rational person is hearing an MRA compare men to Jewish people in the 40s and thinking about their point. That kind of hyperbole is immediately dismissed.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 04:44 PM
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Patriarchy is a concept in which men hold a disproportionate amount of power in the public sphere. With men having 20 percent more earnings, much more political power, and being much more represented in upper management...it does get hard to argue that society isnt male dominated. The key note to define patriarchy though, is that women are excluded from positions of power. And I don't think that argument can still be made. Women just don't seek power as much as men do because of residual effects…
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:40 PM
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It certainly seems like males are more confident than females. Shouldn't we address why that would be? If I found out men were too shy to speak and women were dominating the conversation i would want to look into reasons why that is. I certainly wouldn't be offended enough to say just ignore it.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:24 PM
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Of all the qualified people in the pool, biden said he would choose a woman and was considering choosing 4 different black women. He eventually landed on Harris. This no way means she is not qualified as she would not have been In the pool of potentials if she wasn't. Picking someone that would screw things up is bad for Biden and America. Obviously he wouldn't shoot himself in the foot for no reason.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 03:46 AM
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She's a perfectly fine choice. Her career has been quite impressive in pushes for economic equality and consumer rights. Theres no reason to suggest she doesn't have the merit or character for the position. Trump didn't have experience either and millions of people wanted him to stay. You don't care what sex the person is but as soon as its a woman you assume she didn't have the credentials. Even though trump was elected to a higher position with a fraction of the government experience.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 03:24 AM
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When you start cheering to strip rights away from people to make your life better. You don't get to call yourself a rights group. That becomes a supremacy group.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:43 AM
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Not having men or women in the draft IS equality. Why would people actively cheer for the government to take rights away from people. The draft is a primitive practice for primitive nations.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 12:26 AM
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No one should be forced to fight in a governments war against their will. Cheering for women to be in the draft is just a race to the bottom. We should be cheering for there not to be a draft.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:23 PM
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As much as this group refuses to admit it, there are feminists out there that believe men need help in certain areas AND women need help in certain areas. There are feminists that are disenfranchised with extremism within feminism and feminists that believe we still need feminism to address issues from a male and female perspective. The us versus them mentality is just childish bitterness and feminists and this sub are both guilty. Men and women face discrimination in certain areas. Thats a fact…
/r/MensRights20/01/21 06:47 PM
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Your refusal to answer makes it pretty clear I've made my point.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 04:22 PM
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Right. What action? Thats the question you are going so far out of your way to not answer. Assume sexual assault? Or let it go that a dude was kissing you in your sleep? How will you get out of answering this time? Talk about the weather? The last episode of game of thrones? Lol. Is answering the question so scary to you?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 04:06 PM
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This has nothing to do with the OP. Im asking you a direct question that you clearly can't answer. And your desperation to avoid answering it is hilarious. Im sure you'll ask me to define several of the words in this sentence rather than just answering the question. If you woke up from being drunk and a man was kissing you, would you just move on or would you accuse him of sexual assault even though you were too drunk to remember if you wanted him to kiss you.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 03:30 PM
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Ok. You have issues with the pain statement. I'll remove it. You wake up from being drunk and a strange man is kissing you. Do you or do you not assume it was invited? Or do you assume it is sexual assault? Do you just ignore it? Or do you pursue it to find out if you asked him to kiss you?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 03:15 PM
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Arguing semantics instead of the concept makes it look like you can't argue the concept. You do you though man. My point stands. If you woke up from a night of drinking and some dude was kissing you, im skeptical you would ignore it and assume you invited him to kiss you when drunk.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 02:48 PM
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How would you know its rape? You were blackout drunk. You don't know if you invited them to your bed or not. You'd ruin some guys life going to the police without even knowing what happened?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 02:32 PM
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Whats the difference between pain near the genital area and an ass kind of hurting? If you are going to argue the concept, argue the concept. If you can't argue the concept, move on.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 02:13 PM
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I did not have to add something new to prove my point. OP literally said she had pain in her genital area. Read it again.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 01:58 PM
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That definitely makes her human garbage. I just don't see how it also makes him innocent. Couldn't they both have been in a toxic relationship that made them both abusive people? Is that not incredibly common in society? Why assume one way or the other?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 01:42 PM
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That they dont know what happened. You went into your room alone and thats all they know.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 01:23 PM
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Wait. So feminists going with the judges ruling that he is a wife beater is 'not seeking justice' and rejecting the courts opinion and siding with Johnny Depp because he is 'famous and loved' is the right way to go? Wait what?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 01:06 PM
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What if you woke up from a party and a guy was lying next to you. Your pants were undone And your ass kind of hurt. And a handful of your friends saw him leave your room in the morning. You'd just move on? You wouldn't ask any questions about what happened and you would just assume you invited him in since you don't remember anything?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 12:32 PM
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I don't understand why everyone is so sure what happened here. A judge ruled that 12 of the 14 incidents of abuse by Depp were substantiated. Im not saying he is guilty but everyone seems so certain so I cant see why the judge said this; "The judgment in the case was ultimately handed down on 2 November 2020 with Mr Justice Nicol dismissing Depp’s claim. He found that the allegations against Depp that he was a “wife beater” were substantially true, and held the following: The meaning of the arti…
/r/MensRights20/01/21 12:15 PM
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99 percent of the populating ignores gender altogether. But the other 1 percent are feminists saying the world is controlled by men and MRAs saying the world is controlled by women.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 01:53 AM
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500k based on victimization surveys. Absolutely no where near that number of convictions as only 2 percent end in conviction.
/r/MensRights19/01/21 09:42 PM
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There are 500,000 sexual assaults a year (of men and women) and 40,000 unfounded cases of sexual assault according to the FBI. Whether you believe in rape culture or not, the idea that we live in a 'false accusation' culture is pretty ridiculous. It just seems like the moral equivalent of 'nuh uh, you are'.
/r/MensRights19/01/21 08:52 PM
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Feminists don't think that finding someone attractive is a disgusting lack of self control. Walking by someone and thinking they are attractive is perfectly fine by literally everyones standards.
/r/MensRights19/01/21 02:48 PM
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All economists agree that the pay gap is real. Thats just math so you can't debunk math. There is a gap in the median salaries between men and women. But feminists often believe the pay gap is based on discriminatory practices. The pay gap is more due to job choice and hours worked. Here is a Harvard study saying as much https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/bolotnyy/files/be_gendergap.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiI4Y3H-6fuAhVlUN8KHeIKCBgQFjAGegQIFxAB&usg=AOvV…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/21 12:14 PM
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Yikes. Men are capable of making their own decisions. Im sorry you've clearly been burned by women in the past but this reads as one long 'i dont like women and I don't want men to make their lives better'. If women want to be doctors, let them. If men want to be stay at home dads, let them. Your hissy fit because gender barriers are being broken down is not a male or female problem. Its a you problem.
/r/MensRights18/01/21 11:42 PM
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Taken from the article, 'THE GENDER pay gap may have less to do with discriminatory wages and more to do with fewer women than men holding higher-paying jobs' So the gender pay gap exists according to these economists. It just has nothing to do with discrimination.
/r/MensRights18/01/21 07:09 PM
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So we all agree that there is no accurate answer as to who works more. But somehow a lot of people just assume women work less. Seems kind if sexist to me to assume as much when we can all confirm studies are flawed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 04:11 PM
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What? So you're saying men have more leisure time but their leisure time doesn't count as leisure time because they choose to do work in their leisure time? Im not following the logic there. But either way, the idea that women aren't working as hard as men is deeply flawed and undoubtedly rooted is subconscious sexism. You don't know that women aren't working as hard. You just feel that way because they choose easy jobs like nurse and teacher.... 2 really difficult jobs. And Society in general p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 02:55 PM
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73 percent of women in Canada work full time. I find it hard to believe the average is 25 hours including travel time. Do you know where these numbers came from?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 02:39 PM
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Women get to enjoy the same lifestyles and material conditions that men do, just with less work, Many studies have shown women have less free time. Some studies have shown it is actually pretty equal. But I don't know of any that suggest women have more free time. So this resentment that women work less and live in luxury is blatantly not true. At some point we're going to have to seriously talk about how women's decisions to use men for money (either on purpose or otherwise) is what ultimately …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 02:23 PM
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Mens self worth has been tied to their income for decades because for a very long time, that was the vast majority of their input to a household. But according to stats canada, 50 percent of households with children under 16, both parents work full time jobs. So the old days are done. Which is why men shouldn't tie their self worth to their income and household responsibilities shouldn't overly burden one partner. Not sure how old you are but if you were stuck at home with 3 crying kids while yo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 01:57 PM
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People here just view feminism as the worst members. Which is kind of ironic because feminists view MRAs by their worst members. So both groups think the other is just a bunch of hateful people pushing propaganda. Despite that 90 percent of people in both groups are actually pretty reasonable. The inability to find common ground is quite sad to me. Im quite comfortable being a feminist and I'm quite comfortable pushing for equality in areas men don't have it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 01:15 PM
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So summarized. Women make less money than men because they work less, choose different jobs, and don't target promotions as aggressively. So the wage gap has nothing to do with discrimination. Its male competitiveness that drives the difference between wages. That said, women making 20 percent less than men, even when by their own choice, has societal impacts. Gender roles that women are to take care of the house because their jobs are less important gets continually reinforced. Women in higher …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 12:51 PM
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"And I hate it. Despise how society, no thanks to feminism, has now chosen to elevate women at the expense of men while portraying their toxic behaviour and abuse as something noble to model for future generations of girls. All their bad habits drowned out by "Girls are the future"." How do you feel society portrays female abuse as something noble to model for future generations of girls? What bad habits do girls have that you feel are drowned out by feminist slogans?
/r/MensRights18/01/21 12:32 PM
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I don't think I'm punching anyone. We all agree that men and women face both face discrimination.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 08:21 PM
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Correct. Its the same 'I'm the victim' mentality you see in feminist dialogue. Men and women both have their issues but it seems both groups devolve into a 'mine is worse' attitude rather than working together to actually solve said problems. Painting feminists or MRAs as unreasonable psychopaths gets way more upvotes than attempts to bridge the gap when the goals are overwhelmingly the same. Erasing gender stereotypes.
/r/MensRights17/01/21 07:55 PM
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Men and women both face gender norms that hurt them. Thats why feminism and mens rights groups are needed. Feminists just need to be better about not taking it too far.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 07:28 PM
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You have grossly misunderstood what the term toxic masculinity means. You seem to think that people want to erase masculinity but that is absolutely not the case. Doctors say carbohydrates in excess is bad. That doesn't mean all doctors recommend removing carbohydrates from your diet. Toxic masculinity is when masculinity goes to such extremes that it hurts people. Most men are not examples of toxic masculinity. I may 'tough it out' instead of going to a doctor because I don't want to look weak.…
/r/MensRights17/01/21 03:33 PM
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Women tell men what they should and shouldn't like? What do you mean? And who is reacting by screaming? Has that happened to you?
/r/MensRights17/01/21 01:15 PM
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Maybe I'm just desensitized to it but the term toxic masculinity has never bothered me. I don't associate that with masculinity being a bad thing at all. I look at it as though too much of a good thing can be bad. Nothing wrong with being masculine. Or competitive. Or tough. Or stoic. Its just when you become so competitive your friends don't want to play with you. Or so tough that you need to put others down to feel tougher. Or so stoic that you're too strong to go to a doctor. That's when thos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 12:59 PM
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Women dont get to tell men what should bother them and men dont get to tell women. So saying that this shouldn't bother them when it clearly bothers lots of women...is naive.
/r/MensRights17/01/21 12:44 PM
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This has been said dozens of times but no one has actually showed me a biased media report. Do you have one? Have you actually read a report that assumed the husband's guilt? Or are you just repeating things you've heard? I honestly want to read one but I've looked and can't find any. All the media reports i read urged people not to jump to conclusions. Same with the police in those reports. It seemed very non biased to me which is why I'm wondering where this idea came from that he was assumed …
/r/MensRights17/01/21 12:28 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39037244
/r/MensRights16/01/21 07:05 PM
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Anyone who uses the term 'rapefugees' and says things like "Islam is not like other religions. It’s more inherently prescriptive and it’s much more political. That’s why I, a free speech fundamentalist, still support banning the burka and restricting Islamic immigration" Doesn't deserve to be talked about. Milo can remain the pro-pedophilia bigot that he always was.
/r/MensRights16/01/21 06:36 PM
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So to be clear. Men did terrible things to your aunts, cousins, and mother...and because they talked about it...men are the victim because you absorbed it? Am I reading that right? If hearing about bad things men did made you less likely to do the same things...isnt that good?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:09 PM
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Your anger and frustration towards women makes me wonder if you are 'one of the good guys'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 04:56 PM
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Here's the original article. No suggestion the husband was guilty. Husband walked free in less than 24 hours. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-15/investigation-into-deaths-of-mother-and-children-in-tullamarine/13059176 But here come the downvotes because everything has to be sexism towards men on this sub. MRAs and feminists really aren't that different.
/r/MensRights15/01/21 12:47 PM
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A law was passed in Saudi Arabia in which women no longer need permission from a man to travel. This was less than 2 years ago. Im pretty sure feminism is still very much needed in some areas of the world. Saudi Arabia being one.
/r/MensRights14/01/21 04:52 PM
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You think the real victims here are the men partying with her (none of whom are named or under investigation) and opposed to the dead woman in a bath tub? I'd much rather be free living my life than dead in a bath tub. What exactly are you basing this assessment on?
/r/MensRights13/01/21 02:53 PM
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Is there any country in the world that has a pay gap in which women make more than men?
/r/MensRights13/01/21 11:43 AM
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Correct. I'm just saying 'the wage gap is fake'makes it sounds like you are rejecting countless research articles and data so we should be more clear by saying , the wage gap is not caused by discrimination. Much like the authors of these studies.
/r/MensRights13/01/21 10:13 AM
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As this advanced study of the wage gap points out They found that men were paid on average 16.1 per cent more than women on a global level. But the gap fell to 5.3 per cent globally when evaluating the same job levels alone. The article also states "An in-depth global analysis by Korn Ferry (NYSE: KFY), finds the much-publicized pay gap between men and women is real, but it is predominately caused by fewer women than men in higher-paying roles." So the wage gap is very real. Thats the 16 percent…
/r/MensRights13/01/21 09:51 AM
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I've never seen anything like that. But as always, id be happy to read a study that suggest it if you can link a few.
/r/MensRights13/01/21 12:04 AM
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Right. I understand your definition. My point is that every expert, economost, and sociologist and every study of the wage gap uses my definition. Im sorry if you don't like it, but you don't get to change decades of research because you don't like a word. And feminists hate what I'm saying because I'm saying the gap has nothing to do with discrimination. The idea that you think that position is feminist really highlights how little you understand here. Its exactly the opposite of the feminist a…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 08:29 PM
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Lol. You still don't understand the very basic definition of wage gap. Despite countless articles describing it. At this point you are choosing to be ignorant as I have sent you ample economists definitions. The gender pay gap can exist without sexism being the reason. You think its one or the other because you still struggle with the definition. The pay gap exists. Its caused by women's choices. Not because employers are paying women less than men. I can't explain that any more clearly.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 08:14 PM
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Except these economists right? I don't think you could find any article that says the wage gap doesn't exist. Just that people don't like the name for it. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/8-economists-on-what-youre-getting-wrong-about-the-gender-pay-gap.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/karlynborysenko/2020/03/31/great-news-ladies-the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-myth/
/r/MensRights12/01/21 07:58 PM
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That's your definition of wage gap. My point is literally every expert uses a different definition.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 07:43 PM
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Most studies i read say there is a wage gap but it is due to hours worked and job choice. That obviously takes variables into account. We agree that there is different earnings for men and women due to job selection and hours worked. Everyone agrees with that. That difference is called the wage gap. Theres no sexism. No discrimination. But the median salary of men compared to women is called the wage gap. Tbats just what it means. Everyone agrees the wage gap exists, the difference is what cause…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 07:18 PM
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Is that your opinion what it is though? Because every definition by sociologists and economists is different. I understand what your definition is. I just don't think anyone other than those on MRA websites use that definition. Google, peer reviewed papers, sociological papers, all describe it in the difference between median income for women and median income for men. Changing the definition from what the experts use and then saying it doesn't exist makes no sense to me.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 07:01 PM
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They are the same thing according to sociologists, economists, every definition of wage gap, and every expert in the field.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 06:39 PM
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Obviously hours should be taken into account. Thats why the wage gap can be explained by hours and job choice. That doesn't mean the wage gap doesn't exist. It means the wage gap has nothing to do with sexism. I really can't explain it any simpler than that. My wife working less hours than me doesn't mean my wife and I each made 80,000. That doesn't make sense at all. My wife working less hours than me means the gap in our wages had nothing to do with sexism. But there was still a gap in our wag…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 03:37 PM
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The gap in wages means the wage gap. I think thats a pretty reasonable definition. You however, seem to feel that there is a gap in wages between men and women, but no wage gap. Which I can't for the life of me understand.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 02:49 PM
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Correct. Which is why the wage gap exists. The point being that the wage gap exists. It just has nothing to do with discrimination. So saying the wage gap doesn't exist makes people look dumb. Just like saying its because of sexism makes you look dumb.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 02:27 PM
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Job has nothing to do with it. The wage gap is the median salary between working men and working women and the difference between those two numbers. Job choice is one of the many reasons for the wage gap. But the wage gap still exists. Or as you prefer to call it, the earnings gap. They are the same thing in the eyes of those that study it.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 01:40 PM
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The wage gap as you define it doesn't exist. The wage gap as sociologists and economists define it absolutely exists. You just call it the earnings gap. So the wage gap as the vast majority of economists and sociologists define it exists and you agree with that from what I understand. You just dislike their terminology.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 01:21 PM
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I get paid 80,000 a year. If my wife gets paid 64,000 a year, there is a gap in how much we are paid. There is absolutely a gap in pay.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 01:06 PM
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Right. But the definition of a wage gap is 'The gender pay gap or gender wage gap is the average difference between the remuneration for men and women who are working.' Which means earnings. So you can not like the terminology but the definition still exists. Its just important to point out that men choose more dangerous jobs/jobs they hate because they want more pay. And women choose part time jobs because they require/want more flexibility at home. Arguing the wage gap doesn't exist because of…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 12:50 PM
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When you say 'they're petitioning'. Who is they? The article just says its her lawyer.
/r/MensRights12/01/21 12:35 PM
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You're just not understanding the headline. Obviously men lost their job in the month. It means women lost 156,000 jobs and men gained 16,000 jobs. Meaning the net job loss was 140k jobs and was entirely represented by women. There were thousands of men and women that gained and lost jobs but they cancelled each other out. This article is looking at the net difference. And it's easily explained by the fact that women are significantly more likely to work part time jobs. Part time jobs are obviou…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 12:19 PM
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I don't understand the whole 'the gender wage gap isn't real'. Everyone agrees the gap is real. Its the reasons it exists that is the point of debate. The terminology should be the wage gap is real, but it is because women work less hours and get promoted less. Women do make 20 to 25 percent less than men in a year. Thats not up for debate. Its just because they take on different jobs. But the definition of wage gap is the gap between the wages women make and the wages men make. Which exists and…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 12:04 PM
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Have you tried storming the capital building? That might help...
/r/MensRights11/01/21 06:37 PM
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I see. The same logic feminists have pushing ideas like toxic masculinity. The old ' i don't have to care about men's feelings' logic.
/r/MensRights11/01/21 01:40 PM
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Grammar bot, my friend. If this is the most critical response I get to this post, I'll consider myself fortunate. Thank you for your grammatical correction.
/r/MensRights11/01/21 01:09 PM
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Why not? Many women are uncomfortable in the gym. If you can do something to help women feel more comfortable and make everyone happier, why wouldn't you do it? The idea that you won't help women feel more comfortable at the gym unless they do something for you is terrible logic. Its akin to feminists saying 'why would we help men suffering from depression, what have men done for me'. This logic is the logic of someone in a gender war. Not someone that cares about fellow humans that are having a…
/r/MensRights11/01/21 12:50 PM
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Everyone here assumes the truth based on a media report. Exactly what was done to Johnny Depp and people are doing it again. I will reserve judgement until more facts come out. Assuming guilt of either gender is never okay.
/r/MensRights11/01/21 12:34 PM
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If you look back 50 years, you can see the progress feminism has made. Women 50 years ago barely worked and were 100 percent reliant on men. Women are far more independent now. What progress have MRA groups made that should be talked about in sociological settings? What shifts in societal perception have been made by MRAs? Like it or not, the reason that feminism dominates the sociological conversation is because feminism is the ideology that made huge changes in the world. Male rights groups ju…
/r/MensRights11/01/21 12:17 PM
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Thats a fair assessment. Probably unfair to call her a label she rejects whether she fits much of the same ideology or not. She was definitely disenfranchised with much of the feminist movement towards the end of her life. 1962 was a very different time for women than now.
/r/MensRights10/01/21 05:33 PM
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Yep. She has rejected that label. Doesn't change that she wrote a a widely proclaimed feminist novel. I guess the question becomes if writing feminist work makes you a feminist or self identifying as a feminist makes you a feminist. Her novel contained quotes like "The real revolution is women against men." Or “If we lead what is known as free lives, that is, lives like men, why shouldn’t we use the same language.” Thats pretty feminist to me isnt it? I think people's actions define them more th…
/r/MensRights10/01/21 05:16 PM
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Definitely. Even in 2 parent homes, traditionalist attitudes sometimes put a larger burden on women in regards to child care. 30 years ago dads making comments about how they don't know how to change a diaper were laughed at. We've come a long way from there but it's hard to argue that mentality disappeared completely. Gender roles work against men and women.
/r/MensRights10/01/21 02:34 PM
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And this is coming from one of the most famous feminist authors in the world who wrote the groundbreaking 'the golden notebook' in 1962. Even she believes that misandry has been pervasive in our society. Though she does go on in this interview to highlight that women will never find true equality until the burden of child rearing isn't expected to fall on women.
/r/MensRights10/01/21 12:43 PM
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Downvote the Harvard study and then upvote the post with anecdotal evidence. All on a post where the top comment is complaining about feminism being an echochamber. Yikes....
/r/MensRights10/01/21 12:03 PM
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No huge loss. As far as mens rights activists though, this guys is an extremist that whines too much. "I'm not aware of a single area where women are disadvantaged relative to men,” claims 'politician' Mike Buchanan" We all know both genders face gender discrimination. MRAs that say women dont face any discrimination are as bad as feminists that say men don't face any discrimination. The less those types of MRAs get noticed, the better.
/r/MensRights10/01/21 03:58 AM
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And a woman having an abortion is a potential outcome of sex. If as a man, that's not worth this risk to you, don't have sex. Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is inhumane and cruel. It worries me that you don't see that as obvious.
/r/MensRights09/01/21 11:01 PM
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If you allow men to 'opt out' of all responsibility for a child...how many more kids will be raised without fathers? Will that be good for the world? Edit: All I asked, is if that will be good for the world. Not sure why everyone is so upset about a simple question.
/r/MensRights09/01/21 10:44 PM
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Employers can absolutely censor your personal social media accounts. Whether or not you think that is acceptable is up to you but the point is that employers can tell you to remove posts from social media and refusing to do it will result in you getting fired. This guy was fired for refusing to remove the post. Not the content of the post. They gave him multiple opportunities to keep his job after the post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/21 01:16 PM
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He wasn't sacked because of his views. He was sacked because he refused multiple times to take the video down and he continually refused. The school didn't think that video, as traditionalist as it was, represented them very well so they asked him to take it down. Thats all he had to do to keep his job.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/21 12:18 PM
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I see. So you agree that women are less likely to try and achieve status and power through normal channels due to invisible rules that guide their behaviour. But you don't believe that a society in which men chase power and women are afraid to chase power....is male dominated in that men have more power. An interesting perspective.
/r/MensRights07/01/21 07:01 PM
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If women desire power, and they have to compete with men, but their rules prevent them from overtly chasing power, they must instead subvert the rules by...who can guess it? Reputation destruction What rules stop women from chasing power? If there are rules that exist that stop women from chasing power, is that not the very definition of oppression? Where this oppression comes from is debatable but you seem to have made peace with the fact that women feel like they cannot chase power like men ca…
/r/MensRights07/01/21 06:45 PM
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I specifically said to judge feminists and MRAs by what they accomplish. Not anonymous comments on the internet. Do you disagree?
/r/MensRights07/01/21 03:11 PM
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If you judge any group by their worst members, I think you will find they dont fare well. Especially if it's a group based on anonymity like reddit. I try to remind myself of this by going to Google and looking up positive things mens rights groups are doing and feminist groups are doing. Thats the real world effect. Thats what matters and thats how yiu evaluate a movement. A bunch of bitter women on r/feminism and a bunch of angry men on r/MGTOW are not going to define a movement from their par…
/r/MensRights07/01/21 12:59 PM
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He uses the penis to save babies and hoist flags. It has nothing to do with shaming men about their penis. I guess without seeing it, reading about it, reading the article that has several feminists chastising the show, or bothering to investigate at all....you decided feminists were to blame. This is how echo chambers can poison your outlook on things. Important to stay clear headed.
/r/MensRights07/01/21 12:18 AM
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The article highlights several feminists that are against this show and at no point does it suggest feminists created it.
/r/MensRights07/01/21 12:03 AM
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You seem weirdly obsessed with the KKK.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 10:57 PM
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How am I defending it? I called the author hyperbolic, unhelpful, and looking to incite anger. Is that what defending it looks like to you? I just think you're doing the exact same thing. I can't imagine why you can't understand the authors points when you both just look to incite anger. But you can carry on with your personal attacks and comments. I just wanted people to know that your headline was a hyperbolic exaggeration. Just like hers.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 10:29 PM
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She said not to hate all men. Did you not bother to read it? Did you just see the headline and call it the hate speech of the century without even reading it? Im just trying to keep people fully informed. Not posting a volatile headline and waiting for the anger to follow. Like you and the author of the article both did.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 09:40 PM
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From the same article. " But, of course, the criticisms of this blanket condemnation of men — from transnational feminists who decry such glib universalism to U.S. women of color who demand an intersectional perspective — are mostly on the mark. " ​ The article is not saying to hate all men. It specifically says the people saying 'Don't hate all men' are on the mark. ​ Is it hyperbolic? Yeah. Is it helpful? I would argue no. Is it the biggest hate speech in mainstream media in a century...obviou…
/r/MensRights06/01/21 08:29 PM
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What about shaming women for their grooming habits is helpful to men's rights?
/r/MensRights06/01/21 05:09 PM
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This is where the complaints came from. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5958017/Outraged-father-two-girls-slams-Radox-everyday-sexism.html
/r/MensRights06/01/21 02:01 PM
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The concept that masculinity can be taken to extremes to the point that it hurts men quite clearly exists. I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise. Many call that toxic masculinity but a better name would be toxic gender roles or something like that. Something less targeted.
/r/MensRights06/01/21 03:28 AM
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So you are against the term toxic masculinity and you don't think it makes much sense but you are for using toxic femininity? Shouldn't it be both or none? Hard to argue one is fine and one is offensive.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 11:37 PM
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So you feel toxic masculinity is offensive to all men but toxic femininity is only offensive to toxic women?
/r/MensRights05/01/21 11:18 PM
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I don't think words like toxic femininity or toxic masculinity are productive. I think they are unnecessarily targeted. So I try to avoid using them.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 10:59 PM
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Is that not part of it? Males taunting other males for being 'pansies' or 'cucks' or 'wimps' is absolutely part of the problem. Women are just as guilty in this regard but as men we should be smarter than that since we as men suffer the consequences. Call it toxic masculinity or toxic gender roles or extreme gender roles. Either way, it is a real problem. Not something made up be feminists to demonize men.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 10:05 PM
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If you're so bitter about your station in life that you blame your current situation on your kindness....you likely aren't the most balanced individual.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 07:46 PM
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I agree. I did do that. But that's because claims were made that were inaccurate and I thought they should be corrected. People were attempting to justify gender expectations so I attempted to correct said behaviour.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 06:17 PM
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Your reasonable response deserves a reply. You are correct that women typically work less hours than men. And if households existed where men work 50 hours and women work 40 with 10 hours of unpaid labour. Thats even. But the problem there is men should not be required to work 50. If a man works 40 and a woman works 30 with 10 unpaid hours. Thats fair. I have no issue with that. However the idea that chores are 'women's work' clearly very pervasive in society. This gender expectations is damagin…
/r/MensRights05/01/21 05:31 PM
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In what world are women staying at home? Over 90 percent of women are employed. Compared to 95 percent of men. What women are staying at home? What year do you live in?
/r/MensRights05/01/21 02:37 PM
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If you are unclear what the words mean, you could read the article. The problem is now that men and women both usually work full time, the balance needs to be equal at home. And most countries still have great imbalance there. That imbalance is not in any way essential for a functional relationship.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 02:22 PM
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All gender inequality should be taken seriously. Why would anyone that believes in equality want to ignore inequality. Of all the issues feminists have, this one is actually a big deal. Im just pointing that out. Theres no reason to be so hostile. You seem to have a lot of anger. It might be best to talk to someone because anger is not the healthiest outlet for emotion.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 02:04 PM
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Seems like she is complaining about women doing the majority of the unpaid labour in most households. Isnt that one of the reasonable complaints feminists have? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.oecd.org/dev/development-gender/Unpaid_care_work.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwikkIKX94TuAhV0GVkFHWlwC4MQFjAFegQIHxAB&usg=AOvVaw1_bXpIVCsT1nA2Wg4gvJr7
/r/MensRights05/01/21 01:49 PM
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I see. So you feel that MRAs were against his traditionalist views but wanted to defend his right to espouse them. Even though, as established in this article, those views are literally killing men. I dunno, I'm not rushing to the aid of someone that is pushing toxic gender roles that are leading to male suicides, depression, drug use, and other issues.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 01:06 PM
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This article really highlights the dangers of traditionalism. A stark contrast to the eton professor that was fired who claimed that a lack of traditionalism was what was causing the problem. An important debate in what the future of men's rights activism subscribes to. A push for more traditionalims, or less? "Our society is built under many ideas, stereotypes, and demands. One of them is the idea that not only should women be the maternalistic, loving mothers and nothing else; but men must alw…
/r/MensRights05/01/21 12:48 PM
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According to the US government, 25 percent of STEM jobs belong to women. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/facts-over-time/women-in-the-labor-force
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 02:47 AM
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Pretty much every study says otherwise. Is there any study that shows there are more women than men in stem? What are you basing that belief on? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6759027/ https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2013001/article/11874-eng.htm https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/02/stem-gender-inequality-researchers-bias/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/21 01:02 AM
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If society is making you hate women, you really should seek professional help. Hating billions of people because of a handful of women you know or some posts on the internet is not healthy. Most people are perfectly pleasant. Man or women. Theres no reason to hate entire groups of people. What do you think will happen in the future that is 'very bad?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 09:23 PM
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Uhhh...what? https://nypost.com/2014/05/26/killers-links-to-the-mens-rights-activist-movement/
/r/MensRights04/01/21 07:33 PM
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We agree. No sense arguing any more. There is an earnings gap but 90 percent of the population refers to that as a wage gap. So you know that what 90 percent of the population including the Harvard scholars studying it are saying... is the wage gap exists. You have a different name for it but it exists. All I wanted to highlight.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 02:35 PM
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Your arguing semantics but I can actually appreciate your terminologies between earnings gap and wage gap. But to most, those are interchangeable. Feminists say men make 11 percent more money than women doing the same job. They are right. And you agree. While the reason for this is picking sick children up from school, it still results in women having 11 percent less money than men each year and that is something to be aware of. And I think we both can agree am earnings gap that high is alarming…
/r/MensRights04/01/21 02:16 PM
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The article literally says the wage gap exists and youre saying that supports you? So you agree it exists? We can argue about why it exists but if you're supportive of this articles conclusions, it exists. Or do you cherry pick which parts of the article you like and don't like? There is no arguing the wage gap exists. Only why it exists and if it needs to be addressed. If you think this article proves it doesn't exist, your reading comprehension is terrible .
/r/MensRights04/01/21 01:57 PM
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I mean.. .this Harvard article says it exists and lists ways to reduce it. But yeah...im sure you understand it better than the writers.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 01:42 PM
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To point out studies that are important. The difference in pay in fields was continually reduced to family leave. Why are women taking so much more family leave than men that its costing women millions of dollars? What causes that? Should that not be assessed? Is that inhibiting promotions? What is going on in society when it is so much more often women that are taking the time off? Should we just write it off as 'women make bad choices like caring for their family' Articles like this one are im…
/r/MensRights04/01/21 01:15 PM
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You won't get much traction here. The vast majority of work MRAs do is about demonizing feminism. Im not sure why though as anti feminist articles and posts have never done anything to help mens rights. I guess complaining about an invisible enemy is easier than petitioning politicians and actually trying to make changes.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 12:59 PM
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There's lots of literature about the wage gap. I read this one from Harvard in 2018 that said the wage gap was only 89 cents for every dollar men make in the same job and they gave their reasoning for why it is there as well. Is there one that you feel conclusively proves it doesn't exist? Why are you so sure it doesn't exist that it makes your blood boil? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/bolotnyy/files/be_gendergap.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiKmp74pILuA…
/r/MensRights04/01/21 12:38 PM
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Oh. So you actually think false allegations affect men more than suicide, depression, bias in family court, bias in criminal court, and male disposabililty? You actually think false allegations are a bigger problem than those things? For real? Even without knowing ANY statistics about false allegations and knowing countless statistics on the other things? You've just randomly without evidence decided that false allegations affect more people? Wow... kinda seems like you're just choosing how the …
/r/MensRights03/01/21 10:08 PM
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Im not. Theres just dozens of issues that affect more men than false allegations. I don't know why that bothers you so much.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 09:48 PM
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Its a real issue. Just nothing compared to issues that are hurting men now. Depression and suicide are far worse than false allegations. Trump and biden were both elected by hundreds of millions of people after false allegations. Its clearly not hurting people too much.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 09:34 PM
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You have obviously not proven that. 90 percent of rapes end as 'unknown'. Because 8 are proven false and 2 are proven true by your standards. Which means you won't know whats more common. But you obviously know sex assault is more common than false allegations because thats blatantly obvious in victimization surveys. You're just trying to be the victim.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 09:18 PM
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So if there is security footage of a woman being assaulted...but they never find the assailant...that is not considered 'proven true'in your statistics. You must realize how dumb that is. You can live your life afraid of something that affects less than .5 percent of men. But I'm smarter than that.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 09:03 PM
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2.17% of rapes end in conviction. That doesn't mean the rapes are not proven true. Your data is heavily flawed but I think you know that. Though it does mean that if a man is falsely accused, there is a 98% chance that he will not be found guilty.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 08:48 PM
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Masculinity is fine. Masculinity when its taken to extremes is toxic. Like when guys feel too macho to go to the hospital and they get sicker. Femininity is fine. Feminity when its taken to extremes is also problematic. Like when women dote on their children too much and they become overly dependant. Masculine traits in extremes obviously exist but the terminology to define it is highly contested. Many people hear 'toxic masculinity'and they get their back up and get defensive. But its not an at…
/r/MensRights03/01/21 08:30 PM
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Male suicide rates were high long before feminism. So we're depression rates and bias in the criminal justice system. Those have plagued men since long before women had any voice at all.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 05:47 PM
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Have you read some of the comments posted on that sub? They are not criticizing men for showing emotion. They are criticizing men for showing hatred. There's a big difference. Even as a man, I cringe at some of the comments there. It must be even more off putting for a woman. Here come the downvotes because I won't defend the hateful and spiteful men commenting on posts from those subs. Feminists refuse to criticize feminists and MRAs have decided to take the same approach. Its sad. Hate SHOULD …
/r/MensRights03/01/21 05:31 PM
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The VAST majority of men have never and will never deal with a false allegation. And thank goodness for that. But mental illness, depression, suicide, parental custody rights all affect hundreds of millions of men. These are the issues mens lib deals with. False allegations may be YOUR real issue, but it is not nearly as common as the other issues affecting men. Calling a group uncle toms because they don't deal with the one uncommon issue that you care about is foolish, counterproductive, divis…
/r/MensRights03/01/21 05:14 PM
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They are a pro men's group that discuss issues facing men in today's society. Thats obviously a good thing. But they won't blame feminism and modern women for all of men's problems so people here don't like the group. I guess solving problems isn't as important as finger pointing to some people.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 04:59 PM
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Most women are perfectly fine. Just gotta get good at picking out the crazy ones.
/r/MensRights02/01/21 08:35 PM
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People prefer posts that make them angry. Volatile reactions to click bait generates more revenue than 'women in toxic relationship let out after giving boyfriend superficial wounds'
/r/MensRights02/01/21 01:56 PM
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This is a very defeatist attitude. There are many out there with much more determination than you. Thank goodness.
/r/MensRights02/01/21 12:42 AM
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Im not sure I'm understanding. You are against those types of lessons for boys as they have been found detrimental. In your words, men have suffered under them. But you are okay with adding them for women. You know men will not benefit from this at all. But women will suffer and therefore you find it a worthy endeavor? Am I reading that right?
/r/MensRights01/01/21 09:53 PM
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Aren't we against campaigns teaching boys not to assault people? Instead of getting rid of those campaigns, you want twice as many of them? Who would that help?
/r/MensRights01/01/21 09:37 PM
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Actively fighting for the government to help citizens less. Seems more like the extreme right wing than left wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/21 09:19 PM
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Then put it at 63. That would be a benefit to men and equal. The number of people here that will cheer against women when it doesn't help men at all is staggering. The point of equality is to improve our quality of life. Not erode it evenly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/21 06:48 PM
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This is actually a perfect example of how NOT to approach gender politics. Women got their pension at age 60. Men at 65. Now both get it at 65. Mens rights have not changed at all. How is this a victory for men? All this did was make women's lives worse. Is that what we want? To make women's lives as bad as mens? This is purposefully framed in a way to make it look like women were fighting against benefits to men. They weren't at all. They were fighting against disadvantages to women. Both pensi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/21 05:27 PM
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You'd be pretty hard to argue that gender roles do not exist in extremes and it would not be easy to argue men didnt dominate society 50 years ago. The concepts of patriarchy and toxic masculinity obviously exist. It would be nearly impossible to argue neither ever existed. The point of contention is not their existence, its their prevalence. Have an intellectual debate and see her side of it. I was far more of a feminist when I started reading from this site. Im still more of a feminist than pe…
/r/MensRights01/01/21 02:06 PM
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The first study you quoted was from 1994. There's much more recent research on this matter. https://www.pnas.org/content/115/34/8569
/r/MensRights01/01/21 05:22 AM
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Here's a link to 10 feminist charities thats are helping millions of women lead better lives in the name of feminism. These women getting access to healthcare, literacy, leadership skills, feminine hygiene products, and job skills are all thanks to feminist charities. There are good feminists and crappy feminists. Good MRAs and bad MRAs. Good men and bad men. Good women and bad women. If the energy invested to making feminists into theoretical boogeymen was invested in something positive, things…
/r/MensRights31/12/20 11:33 PM
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I think the vast majority of people in society think #killallmen is a stupid hashtag for stupid people. Have you met many men or women that would be comfortable saying that?
/r/MensRights31/12/20 07:00 PM
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Men never were evil. You get defensive very easily and I think you purposefully misunderstand. 30 years ago women were in entry level positions in society at best. That doesn't mean Men are evil. It means imbalances in societal expectations impeded their ability to succeed. This isn't mens fault any more than women's. Those effects are still lingering.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 03:33 PM
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Society is male dominated. Men earn more, hold way more management positions, and hold the vast majority of public office. Thats a disproportionate amount of prestige. But most men are not implicit in this. At least, no more implicit than women. And it's not something men are actively doing. Its something they WERE doing but those days are over. Now its just a little bit of catchup here and there because women only really joined the workforce 30 years ago. Especially in advanced careers.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 03:03 PM
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Wow...comparing men to black people in the 40s because of things someone tweeted. You're comparing a tweet.. to not being allowed to attend white schools. You can't be serious...
/r/MensRights31/12/20 01:34 PM
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The first post I read was an MRA saying he can't look at women without feeling hatred...some of them are pretty bad and it makes MRAs look bad. I wouldn't call that a badge of honour.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 12:28 PM
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Sigh. Feminism does not presume all men are psychopaths. Just that men dominated the workforceand political sphere until the 2000s and women still haven't completely caught up.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 12:08 PM
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There is a decent portion of people on this sub that have issues with women. A decent portion of people that just want to paint feminism as a catch all boogeyman to men. And a portion of people that post articles that are informative and really highlight male issues. I put up with the first two because I appreciate the third group. I've learned lots about male issues since I started reading articles here. I've just also seen a lot of thinly veiled issues with women.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 11:31 AM
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I was saying I agree with you regarding issues that men are facing today. Not sure why the petty response was necessary.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 04:07 AM
4

Im a feminist. Institutional sexism against men does exist. Men AND women face discrimination in the workplace due to gender. And male disposability is a real problem. Im not sure which feminist has told you otherwise but they certainly don't speak for me.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 03:51 AM
-2

Lol. I must have really triggered you to comment on every single one of my posts for days and days. If dissenting opinions trigger you so much, maybe the internet isn't the place for you.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 11:34 PM
-1

You don't believe that a merit based system could produce a 70 / 30 split? Women in STEM are 34%. Do you think that hiring practices in STEM are biased too? Or is that merit based?
/r/MensRights30/12/20 09:39 PM
1

None of that is an unfair assessment. We can hypothesize about the OPs thoughts but on paper, it still looks like something that will be screenshotted and posted on feminist subreddits and we should be careful of the verbiage we use. If I didn't mention it...no one would. And thats hkw you leave things unchecked and end up with hyperfeminists.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 04:56 PM
2

OP said "If two men have a disagreement or feel disrespected, it often comes to blows between the two. This is not frowned upon in any way. If one man takes the words too far. It’s reasonable to think that his counterpart will get physical. Cops often arrive and if everything is calm or the two are willing to go their separate ways, then nobody is arrested. Why shouldn’t women receive the same treatment if they can’t control their mouths? If men aren’t going to be allowed to take the same action…
/r/MensRights30/12/20 02:33 PM
0

Im a man. Hard to argue im unaware of the male experience. I just point out that there's a fine line between mens rights and cheering against women. Im all for pro man. I point out the hypocrisy when people veer too hard to anti women. Like a post asking for them to be punished for something that men aren't punished for. If you want to be better than feminists.... you need someone to call people out on that stuff. I wish feminism had more people doing it.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 02:01 PM
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If they took the best applications for this year and 70 percent ended up being women....so be it. Thats not discrimination. The blatant murder of merit would be if they instead chose 20 percent more men to make it balanced.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 01:44 PM
1

If OP was asking to make verbal abuse illegal, that would be equality. OP is asking for women to be punished for something men are not punished for. Thats the exact opposite of equality. You must be aware of that. Those are stupid laws. No argument. But I fail to see what that has to do with the issue of verbal abuse. Most verbal abuse has nothing to donwith misandry or misogyny.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 01:14 PM
-2

These are laws about misogyny becoming a hate crime. This has nothing to do with abuse unless you are abusing someone based on their gender. I fail to see what point you are making with this article? Do people here want men and women to go to jail for verbal abuse? Or just women?
/r/MensRights30/12/20 12:59 PM
-2

"Why should women be allowed to verbally abuse men with no consequences whatsoever? " How many men are in jail for verbal abuse? I'm guessing 0. So why should women go to jail for it? You're not asking for equality. Your asking for unfair treatment of women to make you feel better because you can't hit them and you find that unfair since they can call you names.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 12:29 PM
2

Your issues with women are palpable. This is not about men's rights or equality. This was just about threatening women. Women you don't even know. You open up with the suggestion that women should fear men and finish with the idea that men may murder more women in the future. Your viewpoint is very unstable and you should probably seek help to have a more constructive and rational approach to the opposite sex.
/r/MensRights30/12/20 12:10 PM
-4

But.. its the truth. Are you saying people literally want to be lied to about Disney's hiring practices instead of told the truth. Why would anyone want that? If dissenting opinions bother you so much, perhaps the internet isn't the place for you.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 09:21 PM
-5

Im a feminazi because I told people that no one from Disney said this? Uhhh...what?
/r/MensRights29/12/20 09:04 PM
1

On that exact comment, an MRA suggested women are guilty of this. Which the article proved was not true. Does that mean MRAs are all claiming falsehoods? No, obviously not. Because no meme speaks for all MRAs or feminists.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 04:59 PM
-3

When did feminists claim this? Did you make that up or do you have a link?
/r/MensRights29/12/20 03:27 PM
-13

They decided to have a subreddit dedicated to male issues without demonizing feminism. How is that sexist? It seems so stupid to me that menslib and mens rights groups can't find common ground because they differ on who is to blame for the issues. Helping men is the goal. Not bickering about what some feminist said or some MRA said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/20 02:11 PM
8

This is a huge win for MRAs as this was potentially a huge problem for men in the family court system. Sadly, these huge wins don't get much traction compared to posts about a woman that did something sexist.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 01:53 PM
-10

They aren't. No one from Disney ever said this. they are considering a reboot with a female lead but I don't know why that would bother anyone.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 01:17 PM
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Because no one from Disney said this. This is just some writers way to get clicks by making people angry. Its clearly working. Many are suggesting karen Gillan will be the next lead. Who is Scottish and white and did an excellent job in Jumanji. Scroll down these comments and look at all the people that just assume Disney has made this statement. Its so easy to manipulate people with headlines.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 12:54 PM
-3

I mean...this article was written and printed in English in order to generate revenue in the United States. Did you want feminists to be protesting on streets? What exactly do you think feminists should be doing regarding this imprisonment? Upon Google searching it, several feminist organizations released statements on how upsetting it was that she was jailed in an attempt to pressure the government to step in.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 12:39 PM
-4

Walk me through it. How did feminism create male suicide rates? How did feminism create mass incarceration? How did feminism lead to drug abuse among males. These are real problems that men are facing and you seem convinced that fighting feminism will stop these problems. So how exactly did feminism create these problems? I'm guessing you have no answer for this. You just want to keep pushing your frustration and anger without even knowing what you are fighting against.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 02:26 AM
-4

Im a man. I've never been made fun of for crying. Never gotten into a physical fight with a women. No one has treated me like a perpetrator. I've never seen anyone being made fun of for being raped. Are you sure these are real problems that you e experienced? Or just stories you read on the internet so that people can perpetuate the idea that the genders are at war?
/r/MensRights29/12/20 12:34 AM
-2

One person does not destroy myths. Its anecdotal and does nothing to prove which gender has it harder. Im not sure why its a competition anyway.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 09:54 PM
-2

This is very flawed logic. Its like saying men have it easy because professional athletes are paid so well. This is just taking pot shots at women and has nothing to do with mens rights.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 09:33 PM
-4

Look at all the movies out there where the main hero shows how tough he is by ignoring his pain. Is it any wonder men try to be tough and ignore their pain? A perfect example of how constantly reinforced gender roles in extremes are detrimental to men. If you don't like the word toxic masculinity, a more appropriate name like extreme gender roles can be applied... but this is a clear indicator that it exists. Whatever you call it.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 01:59 PM
-16

Have you seen what male depression rates look like? Male suicide? Veteran homelessness? The idea that being uncomfortable expressing emotion is beneficial in the workplace does not justify the negative outcomes from it. And pushing the idea that the stoic males from 300 are the ideal man and anything less is a failure to biology is what's hurting men. If you wonder why society doesn't care about men's problems, its because videos like this that tell the world men can't express themselves with an…
/r/MensRights28/12/20 01:35 PM
-18

So what parts of the lecture did you find were not traditionalist? What point did you feel he made other than his view on what biology says men and women should act like?
/r/MensRights28/12/20 12:47 PM
-24

This lecture was traditionalist garbage. Forcing gender roles on men has done nothing to help men. I don't know why so many MRAs support this antiquated ideology. People can be whoever they want. They don't need to be tougher or more protective to appease some teacher in the UK.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 12:25 PM
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Great suggestion. That may shift things in a positive direction. Focusing on solutions instead of just demonizing feminism. Great idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/20 03:12 AM
-7

Girl scouts never wanted girls to be allowed into scouts. They would lose millions of dollars. So how did they dig their own grave? Feminists dug the grave of the girlscout organization by pushing to open scouts to all genders. But if your organization can't withstand equality...then I don't care if you don't make it. Feminists and girl scouts are not the same organizations and so no one dug their own grave.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 02:57 AM
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Im saying the lawsuit has nothing to do with feminism. Because it doesn't. The push to allow girls was definitely about feminism....and equality.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 02:42 AM
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Feminists love that scouts became gender neutral. Literally every feminist is happy about that. Its the girl scouts organization's pocketbook that is upset about this as girls prefer to learn survival skills to selling cookies. The girl scouts are suing because they are losing money. Nothing to do with feminists.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 02:25 AM
-2

Thousands of men are falsely accused every year. But hundreds of thousands of men are actually sexually assaulted each year and no one seems to care. I'll never understand why people care so much about false allegations and so little about men actually being sexually assaulted when it has 100 times the number of victims.
/r/MensRights28/12/20 02:10 AM
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I want rapists in jail. And the best way to get that is to get as many women reporting their experiences as possible. Could someone lie? Yes. Could someone abuse the justice system? Yes But deterring people from coming forward due to invasive searches will mean more rapists on the street and less data for police to use. I'd rather all women come forward and police sort out the truth then half of women come forward and we are more confident that the rape was real.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 11:12 PM
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Do you think only women can be raped? Do you think men Are immune to sex assaukt? Im talking about all victims. I said rapists and you assumed I meant men. Your gender assumptions are not helping men at all.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 10:44 PM
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Right. You're saying you have to be willing to sacrifice your privacy to get a conviction. Im saying people aren't willing to do that. Men and women will not report their rape. And it will continue happening. Its already dangerously underreported. No one wants the officers to see their deunk texts and question whether they are a real victim or not. Many people would prefer to just let it go.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 10:29 PM
-5

What is toxic femininity? Whats an example of that that i could use?
/r/MensRights27/12/20 10:07 PM
-7

If you want to lock rapists up...you need people to come forward when they are raped. And rape victims already blame themselves in many cases. If they feel the text messages will make it look like 'they were asking for it' they will suffer in silence. And rapists remain on the street.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 09:44 PM
-20

So you would be okay with the officers going through your phone when you report a mugging?
/r/MensRights27/12/20 09:17 PM
-3

Toxic masculinity is a term to describe masculine traits in such excess that it ends up being a negative influence. it is an offensive term if the term offends you i guess. Im a man and it has never bothered me but everyone is different.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 09:01 PM
-30

So if you were mugged tomorrow, and you reported it to the police...and they asked you to go through all your personal messages to see if there was any chance you were making it up... You'd be okay with that? Really?
/r/MensRights27/12/20 08:43 PM
-10

notAllWomen
/r/MensRights27/12/20 07:20 PM
-21

Why is it always a competition as to who has it worse?
/r/MensRights27/12/20 07:05 PM
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No. This means that someone that goes to a police station and reports a crime will be not have their constitutional right to privacy violated. No one should fear reporting a crime because they will have their personal life investigated in detail. That leads to the disgusting underreporting of sexual assaults that we already see in society. Which leads to more rapists walking free.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 06:29 PM
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I read it. Its the usual, women shouldn't get so drunk if they don't want to be raped. Good advice, but it further tells victims they shouldn't come forward because its their fault. If a man is raped should he come forward? If he was drunk, was it his fault? If a man is harassed or taken advantage of he should not be told it was his fault because he drank too much. Women shouldn't be told that either. It only lowers the number of people reporting incidents which is how you fix a problem.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 03:09 PM
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Wait...you're upset that they won't violate the civil rights to privacy when someone comes forward as a victim? More importantly, how many people won't come forward because they don't want an officer to see flirtatious texts and tell them it was theur fault? How many rapists wont be caught when women and men don't come forward. If a man says a woman raped him, should he have to let police officers go through his phone to see all his personal texts? This practice is very anti victim and its good …
/r/MensRights27/12/20 02:54 PM
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12 percent of college students experience some form of sexual assault. Tens of thousands of men and women are assaulted every year. Thats a very big deal and people should be trying to fix it .
/r/MensRights27/12/20 02:39 PM
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I see. Its a group about helping men and not about getting into a competition about who has it worse. They are helping men but they aren't doing it the way we want so let's all be mad at them. This in fighting and bickering inhibits progress in mens rights. I guess thats less important than bashing feminism.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 02:24 PM
-2

Were they proven fake? Or are we just assuming the guilt of all 22 women without a trial. Do they not get the benefit of innocent until proven guilty?
/r/MensRights27/12/20 01:10 PM
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I just checked out that subreddit. They are promoting a charity to help male suicide, talking about men's rights in family court, talking about antiquated gender roles, and how gambling disproportionately hurts men. Doesn't seem like much man hating to me. Is it just that they aren't attacking feminists that people don't like?
/r/MensRights27/12/20 12:55 PM
1

Right. No definition. I'll check back later. Keep thinking about it.
/r/MensRights24/12/20 07:46 AM
1

Just get back to me when you have that definition of patriarchy that isn't any of the definitions I found. I have no interest in hearing your arguments about the sun or what my grades are. But you really would come across as more intelligent if you left out all the insults. It just seems childish to me.
/r/MensRights24/12/20 07:19 AM
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My definition matches Wikipedia, Websters, and feminists articles. You still haven't provided a definition. And whats with the grades thing? I haven't been in school on over a decade. No one cares about grades except college students. Are you not even in the real world yet?
/r/MensRights24/12/20 07:03 AM
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Lol. So triggered you can't spell correctly. Calm down man , you'll live longer.
/r/MensRights24/12/20 05:33 AM
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It literally is though Wikipedia Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership Websters control by men of a disproportionately large share of power Feminism A patriarchal society consists of a male-dominated power structure throughout organized society and in individual relationships. https://www.thoughtco.com/patriarchal-society-feminism-definition-3528978 Will you be sharing your definition? Or continuing to pretend the entire in…
/r/MensRights24/12/20 05:07 AM
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I see. So you just keep telling people that's not the right definition of a patriarchy so you can say it doesn't exist. Literally everyone knows what patriarchy means. Its a society dominated by men. Thats not up for debate. Thats Websters. And you're saying a society with 98 percent male politicians isn't patriarchal? Lol. You must really have to reach to find a definition of patriarchy that wouldn't fit with that criteria.
/r/MensRights24/12/20 04:37 AM
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No need to get upset or call names. Patriarchal societies are societies in which men hold the positions of power. Much like a patriarchal household is a house in which the man holds the power. Im just saying that its obvious when men made up 95 percent of political office that society was patriarchal. That number had been shifting towards 50 percent for a few decades now. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/patriarchy
/r/MensRights24/12/20 04:20 AM
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The patriarchy is a theory in which men hold the majority of the power and women have trouble accessing it. In 2020, women are 25 percent of the senate. In the year 2000 women were 10 percent. In 1990, 2 percent. But no women have never been excluded from power ever in history right? You can argue the patriarchy is disappearing....but you can't argue it never existed with any credibility.
/r/MensRights24/12/20 04:05 AM
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Innocent until proven guilty. No one should assume anyone is guilty of a crime unless they have been convicted in court. Except these women. They haven't been convicted yet but let's assume they are lying.
/r/MensRights24/12/20 12:51 AM
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95 percent of people are fine. This sub just quickly becomes obsessing about the 5 percent that aren't. Don't let these alarmists rile you up. There is no gender war. Feminists aren't nazis. And most people care about things like depression and suicide rates for men. Some people just want a common enemy so they post crazed feminist stories from around the globe. Nothing brings people together faster than shared enemies.
/r/MensRights23/12/20 09:59 PM
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This is exactly the mentality that needs to be removed from this group. This idea that you defend men regardless of their actions is just stupid. No one should do that. Man or woman. This is just hating women and pushing for a gender war. It has no place here.
/r/MensRights23/12/20 08:52 PM
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I think a lot of people here felt society was much smoother when men and women had their traditional gender roles. Men working and women taking care of the family and home. Is this not a good thing that canada is returning to traditionalist gender roles?
/r/MensRights23/12/20 07:43 PM
2

The article says nothing about her being a feminist. In fact, none of the articles I found say anything about it. But I guess never let the truth stop you from getting upvotes.
/r/MensRights23/12/20 04:29 PM
-43

So women belong in the kitchen and you as a man know that they will be happier for it? People must realize this is blatant sexism right?
/r/MensRights23/12/20 02:31 PM
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You think affirmative action and women representing 50 percent of the work force is why men can't find jobs? What percent of the workforce do you feel should be women? I don't think its fair to blame women being in the workforce for less job opportunities for men as women dont even make up half the workforce. If there isn't enough jobs it makes more sense to blame the economy. Edit: here come the downvotes because I think women deserve as many jobs as men. The definition of equality and it gets …
/r/MensRights23/12/20 01:14 PM
0

But you weren't advocating men walking away from women. You were advocating men making sexist attacks on women by calling them all gold digging hypocrits. Walking way entirely is closer to the MGTOW school of thought.
/r/MensRights23/12/20 12:59 PM
2

But aren't you just arguing for sexism to fight against sexism? Is that any better than racism to fight against racism? Or violence to fight against violence? Advocating being sexist towards women for revenge is not the goal of the mens rights movement.
/r/MensRights23/12/20 12:07 PM
3

Yeah. Definitely a total b word. But does this have anything to do with mens rights or just fishing for upvotes because a woman did something crappy?
/r/MensRights23/12/20 12:37 AM
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Relationships exist where both parties take care of each other. Thats equality.
/r/MensRights22/12/20 11:44 PM
-2

The article says "this is the first such dialogue with students, as part of a national review of issues that affect women at home, in schools, workplaces and the community." But this is in response to a recent uptick in issues of respect and consent against women in education. So it is geared towards women but if they are having issues there, this initiative takes nothing away from men. So I'm all for it.
/r/MensRights22/12/20 02:27 PM
0

Theres a lot to unpack here. From your claim that 100 percent of females engage in verbal abuse in their lifetime and 10 percent of men. Thats a crazy huge difference and no statistics have ever come up with such a gap. Add in the idea that the 'cold shoulder' is domestic violence is absolutely insane. Are you saying women being upset with their husband is domestic violence? Because that's actually pretty crazy. And if the cold shoulder is abuse...how are only 10 percent of men abusive? You don'…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 12:58 PM
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No. I'm saying infighting in mens groups trying to help men is sad. Mens groups have the same goal. Getting bitter about one because they don't rip on feminism is counterproductive. If its a mens groups trying to help men, their opinion on feminism doesn't matter. Its a good group.
/r/MensRights22/12/20 12:43 PM
-5

The authors explained why their research didn't hold up. They then hired independent analysts to see if the research held up and it didn't. They clearly explain it was redacted because the results did not justify their conclusion. Do people not read the article?
/r/MensRights22/12/20 12:21 PM
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So its a mens group that talks about men's issues and fights for men... but they don't blame feminism enough so you are comparing them to men that betrayed their own race during the slavery era? And it reminds you of your work that has hiring policies that make you uncomfortable because you are white? Am I reading that right?
/r/MensRights22/12/20 03:26 AM
-7

So to be clear... you're actively looking to take poweer away from women in the western world? Mens rights should be about lifting men up. Not tearing women down.
/r/MensRights21/12/20 02:02 PM
-6

So discrimination against women doesn't exist but discrimination against men is rampant? Both sides are hit with gender expectations. Trying to claim its only one side being hurt by that is just foolish. The reason people don't take mens rights seriously is exactly this. Instead of acknowledging we all have biases that are affecting us, they close their eyes to any discrimination against women and then scream loudly about slights to men. Both genders face issues. Thats so obvious its not even up…
/r/MensRights21/12/20 01:06 PM
-8

Yeah. This is dumb. I'm all for mens rights but making the argument that women have never been oppressed is just pathetic and sad.
/r/MensRights21/12/20 12:44 PM
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Just because the abuse is not physical, doesn't mean it is just 'nagging'. Downplaying non violent abuse as 'nagging' is exactly the opposite of what mens rights groups should be doing.
/r/MensRights21/12/20 03:47 AM
-1

I very much dislike Donald Trump. Like most normal people.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 05:55 PM
5

Hateful homophobia is a mens rights issue. Class up.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 05:37 PM
-1

I fail to see why childish name calling is necessary. Different opinions don't need to be hostilities. Try and be a bit less aggressive.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 05:15 PM
-4

Is that something you feel? Or something that has been studied or proven though? I would very much like to read articles if you have any to support that.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 04:27 PM
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There is no better determinate as to income inequality than the number of people living in poverty. Which in America, is disproportionately women. https://www.statista.com/statistics/233154/us-poverty-rate-by-gender/ Income inequality is an issue for both genders. Wlmen just have it worse. In America at least.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 03:59 PM
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Isn't data that shows inequality exactly what 'argues for feminism? Thats why women are fighting isnt it? To achieve equality where it hasn't yet been achieved. If someone asked me why I support male rights, I would give data. Homelessness, drug abuse, under reported domestic violence etc. I guess I'm more statistically driven than emotionally driven.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 03:08 PM
-2

I found this article interesting. I find economic inequality to be one of few things left that are legitimate concerns for women and feminists so I try to be educated on the matter. ​ https://inequality.org/facts/gender-inequality/
/r/MensRights20/12/20 02:30 PM
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Are you saying people shouldn't worry about feminists being raped? Because that's blatantly sexist and hateful. Grow up.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 01:48 PM
1

This group: men need to be more comfortable showing emotions Man shows emotion: 'bro you gotta chill out' is top comment.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 01:33 PM
-3

About 300 kids are abducted by strangers each year in America. 74 million go to the park and play without things like this happening. Take a deep breath. And relax.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 05:02 AM
-7

Lol. This dude is very afraid of women. Yikes.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 04:46 AM
4

Simply, I'd say don't excuse issues to men even if you feel as a woman, you face adversity. You do, I assure you. But there are situations that men do as well and the competition to see who has it worse doesn't help anyone. I think the biggest thing men and women can do is start trying to understand the other side a little bit better. MRAs aren't all violent incels and feminists are not all radical feminists. Most are just people that want whats best for both genders.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 04:29 AM
0

I said "The gates foundation is working with multiple agencies and the UN to educate women on nutrition and you think they are sneakily teaching them how to not feed boys? Are you serious?" And you said "yes". Not a straw man argument. You specifically said that you think thats true. And I'm saying that is an outlandish conspiracy theory.
/r/MensRights20/12/20 12:29 AM
0

Do I need to see evidence before I accuse several charities that are feeding millions of people of targeting the death of boys? Yes. Yes I do need to see evidence of that. Why would anyone believe such an outlandish claim without evidence?
/r/MensRights20/12/20 12:14 AM
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This has nothing to do with the patriarchy or feminism. Its about whether or not you believe thousands of men and women donating their time to countless charities are trying to kill young boys in third world countries by educating women on nutrition. I think that's crazy and you seem to be doubling down that it's true.
/r/MensRights19/12/20 11:59 PM
-6

There are hundreds of educated articles about those topics. How many peer reviewed studies are about dozens of charities getting together and secretly starving men in third world countries? I get it, you hate feminism. But that doesn't mean everything feminists do it bad. Life is a lot more complicated than that.
/r/MensRights19/12/20 11:42 PM
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So its a global conspiracy and literally dozens of charities are all in on it. Charities that have both men and women donating their money and time. And all of it is just a huge conspiracy for feminists to keep men malnourished but feed women correctly? For someone that claims to be educated, that's a pretty insane conspiracy theory without any facts to support it.
/r/MensRights19/12/20 11:22 PM
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The gates foundation is working with multiple agencies and the UN to educate women on nutrition and you think they are sneakily teaching them how to not feed boys? Are you serious?
/r/MensRights19/12/20 10:39 PM
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What makes you think feminists are trying to block research into the nutrition of minors? Melinda gates donated millions of dollars to educate women about nutrition around the world since they are often the decision makers when it comes to decisions like food. This could help millions of boys and girls live healthier lives.
/r/MensRights19/12/20 10:17 PM
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