Thoughts on r/MensLib post

whatafoolishsquid · 2021-01-03T21:52:08+00:00

Menslib isn't about rights and liberty for men, it's about forcing men to conform to whatever feminists want men to be.

toddslacker · 2021-01-03T15:25:45+00:00

They claim to fight for men but filter it through feminist ideology

maxlvb · 2021-01-04T04:34:51+00:00

r/menslib FYI: We consider ourselves a pro-feminist community.

We consider ourselves allies to the women's issues movement, of which feminism is a primary mover.

IOW it's not about men at all....

Feminism: equality when convenient

ShortTailBoa · 2021-01-03T15:27:06+00:00

It's misandrist propaganda that pretends to be pro-men so they can insult and belittle them.

They refuse to talk about any of the real issues facing men (Like False allegations) and usually just blame men for any problems they have in society.

They're uncle toms and sellouts.

iAntiMage · 2021-01-04T05:03:25+00:00

r/menslib are trying soft mens problem projection (not mens rights) mixed with feminism ( if any issue lead to men vs women they will side with women at the expense of men)

It is a sub for moral policing Men and making them feel that all the problems they face are due to Men only (which i agree somewhat as Men have made these Anti Male laws to please the feminists).

Finally, it is a sub to make Men look a creature of pity and never shy to blame Masculinity.

DubsPackage · 2021-01-03T19:30:38+00:00

On the one hand, fuck Menslib.

On the other hand, I'm willing to see Menslib as simply an ideological disagreement and not malice against men themselves.

Some feminists hate men, or maybe they had bad experiences and that's understandable.

Other feminists just want a better life for everybody and that's honorable.

I still disagree with all of them on an ideological level, most women don't really understand how men are, how we feel and how we deal with problems, we don't go to therapy because it's not useful to us.

These are gynocentric solutions being presented as universal solutions.

At the end of the day, the Feminist/Menslib spectrum are people with alot of female energy who want female solutions that don't really apply/work for the majority of men out there.

Secondly

At an institutional level, I think Feminism is about monetizing women to promote capitalism and Anglo-Nordic cultural imperialism and globalism.

I don't think the powers-that-be created Feminism to help women, women have always been taken care of throughout history, whether they held jobs outside the home or not.

What powers-that-be want is for women to hold jobs that are TAXABLE.

Before feminism you couldn't tax %50 of the population.

That's what feminism is /really/ about, at an institutional level.

It's about benefitting Bezos and Bill Gates and other billionaires by employing women to work in their corporations instead of women working in their own homes.

Also taxing them for big govt.

That's what Feminism is.

I do not deny that (as with ANY ideology) there have been some tangential benefits and things to consider, like, "is rigid gender roles really that healthy? Probably not."

But no, I do not believe that the powers-that-be incorporated Feminism to give men a longer lifespan by taking "breadwinner" off their shoulders.

That is bullshit, the powers-that-be don't give a fuck about us, they only care about themselves, their mansions and their yachts.

This nightmare that is Western Society will never improve until all the rich people are rounded up and hung from light poles, that goes for most politicians too.

Until then, they will ALWAYS fuck with our lives.

TL;DR - Menslib may not be malicious. But it is still ideologically wrong.

dracomull · 2021-01-03T15:42:26+00:00

In looking at their resources and goals I think they know and admit it goes both ways. They list men’s health, fathering, child custody and violence against men as 4 of their top issues. You’re asking them to admit something that you won’t admit goes sharply in the other direction too. If you spend you’re entire life waiting to help someone who helps you first then you propagate a world of unhelpful people.

Fantactic1 · 2021-01-03T17:04:38+00:00

I should clarify that in the last paragraph of my original post, when I said “they’re trying to redefine...” I meant that article, not necessarily all of r/MensLib. Still, opinions about MensLib broadly are welcome too.

Alejandro4222017 · 2021-01-03T19:47:38+00:00

Imo i don’t really see it as bad but i prefer this sub

ObviousObservationz · 2021-01-03T16:59:03+00:00

They are a pro men's group that discuss issues facing men in today's society. Thats obviously a good thing.

But they won't blame feminism and modern women for all of men's problems so people here don't like the group. I guess solving problems isn't as important as finger pointing to some people.

Title	Thoughts on r/MensLib post
Author	Fantactic1
Upvotes	10
Comments	45
Date	January 3, 2021 3:17 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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