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I don't think we disagree as much as it might have appeared, because I agree with what you're saying there. Except that I still don't care much for celebrity news and gossip. Though I guess out of curiosity, I may have to look up what there is to read about Billy Bob, much as it will pain me to drudge through celebrity "news."
/r/seduction31/12/15 10:52 AM
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I had just woken up, and was headed out my garage for work when I saw a cute girl carrying grocery bags out of her car parked alongside the curb. We exchanged glances at each other then I got into my car while she started walking back to her home. Right, and you recognize now that you could have made some attempt at communication. In my car, I immediately thought no way a girl like that owns her own BRZ, she must have a BF. But this...... is a lot of excuses and unhelpful thoughts. The whole BF …
/r/seduction31/12/15 10:50 AM
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Perhaps it is the way I approach, but every time I approach I either get a number or get a "You're so sweet but I have a boyfriend" response. The thing here is, what is coming of those numbers? If your results are that you get a number that goes nowhere and/or girls tell you they have a BF, then something needs to be adjusted in your approach. But it's a little unclear how things have gone with those numbers you have gotten. I do daygame. In daygame, try to right off the bat give them a cute/pre…
/r/seduction30/12/15 09:34 AM
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Tldr: Limit the time you expend on women to maximize results. You maximize results by being more prudent about where who you spend your time on, not by simply spending less time on all women or by simply spending less time on a particular girl. Unfortunately, you have to make mistakes to learn about the red flags for when someone isn't worth your time. And you ought to be living a life that makes you happy, without the addition of a woman. It fascinates me how a woman will string you along for h…
/r/seduction30/12/15 09:11 AM
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great explanation but that's way too much work to get laid. I guess it depends on how much you like having a conversation. I'm not talking about something that's a lot of work to many people. Simply listening, should be in your skill set anyway because that's how you notice the right timing for making moves and things like that. And if you're listening to her rather than the sound of your own thoughts, you're not only going to have better chances overall, but you'll have better material to work …
/r/seduction30/12/15 12:40 AM
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Hello world of seduction, I have a problem that I thought maybe you could help with. I seem to be a shity "texter" or messager or what ever you want to call it. I seem to not have a problem with getting a girls number most of the time, but I do have a problem keeping conversations through text, ever. You don't need to "keep a conversation through text." IF you have a good meeting with a girl, all you need to do is set up a time to meet to do something fun. Sometimes you do that the first time yo…
/r/seduction30/12/15 12:28 AM
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Also in night game do you just approach girls? Look, it's not different from day game in the way you'd think. It's not any different in the way you might approach, really. In either case, you must be present (fully aware of the moment and what's going on). Then when you're aware, you relate to people based on what's going on. See something funny or interesting? Comment on it to someone around you. Or ask a question about it. The difference in night and day game is that people are usually open to…
/r/seduction27/12/15 10:51 AM
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approache issues - not because of anxiety, but because it just seems incredibly forced and obvious when going up to some random chick trying to be chill. I never know what to say, Ive tried some basic things but it just feels super awkward. Look, clubs are not for talking. They're designed around partying, listening to loud music, and dancing. If you know what you are doing, you can open someone verbally. Otherwise, you need to be enjoying the dance floor, or you should find somewhere else to ga…
/r/seduction27/12/15 10:30 AM
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How about you forget the idea of flirting in clubs? You don't need to forget about the idea of flirting in clubs. Clubs are an awesome place to flirt because people are there to dance and have a good time. Unless they're guys who are preoccupied with getting laid and forget how to have fun. Which happens to a lot of guys, to be fair. I've been there myself. Even the hottest guy has a hard time picking up chicks. It's the guys with the wrong attitude that have a hard time. I'd say clubs are the w…
/r/seduction27/12/15 10:01 AM
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I seem to do okay drawing attraction initially, but I can't seem to hold it. Outwardly I feel like I'm doing everything this sub has told me to do, but somehow I'm still falling short. This is one of the trickier things because you don't "keep a girl interested," with what you do, but rather, who you ARE. And if you are a guy who's trying to do things to keep a girl interested, then she's going to lose interest. We continued fooling around and I tried other stuff but didn't get anywhere. This so…
/r/seduction27/12/15 09:52 AM
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I embody almost all "alpha" qualities. I act almost identical to the guys I model my game after (I am still congruent). However, the other guys get results and I don't. Look, something is not lining up here. This isn't rocket science. If you truly embodied "most qualities of an attractive man," you would get results. Period. Since you don't, then you're missing something. Probably something in your inner game. But you've been vague about too many things: What constitutes "almost all alpha qualit…
/r/seduction27/12/15 09:10 AM
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I'm curious if any guys here are worried about accidental pregnancy? Have you had any scares or close calls? I just went through a nightmare with someone I hooked up with a few weeks ago. We used a condom, but noticed it partially slipped off after ejaculation. Then she texts me a few days ago saying her period is very late. And worse, she tells me if she's preggers, she's keeping it. Fuck me. Besides condom, vasectomy, or whatever wonderful measures they're cooking up in the future (like the ma…
/r/seduction27/12/15 08:55 AM
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Does this actually work? Yes. It does. I think we're looking for much different things. Your looking for something deep and me quite the contrary. It doesn't matter whether you want a fling or something solid, making a connection is not a hindrance. It merely makes it more likely that you'll be screening out girls who don't align with your values. I usually ask almost no questions to girls That's fine. It's easy enough to get somewhere this way. The trade-off is that it's not always easy to scre…
/r/seduction27/12/15 08:31 AM
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Also active listening makes it more likely for me to recall my own stories/opinions/thoughts about whatever it is she's talking about. Just take care..... even if something she's saying makes you recall something, it can sometimes be a fight to stay on point/to stay actively listening. The moment you're organizing some thought for more than a few seconds, it will take brain resources away from listening and cut you off from information you could be using.
/r/seduction27/12/15 08:21 AM
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Girls in the past have even said that it feels like I'm interviewing them. This is not because you "constantly ask questions." It's because you constantly drop conversation threads. People get this impression when you ask a question, and then make it seem like you ignored what they said because your response to their answer is something like, "Oh cool," and then you ask a question about something unrelated. Basically asking questions is not bad. What's bad is accidentally changing the subject. W…
/r/seduction25/12/15 10:16 AM
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Hi! If I get a girls number is it better to text her or call her. No. There is no correct answer for this. That's why your friends are split on this. I have a group of friends that are split down the middle. Some say text her because people don't like to talk on the phone these days. Some say if you call her you may stand out and it will show that you are more interested. Look, this is something that can vary wildly depending on the specific situation and girl, so really your question doesn't ma…
/r/seduction25/12/15 09:43 AM
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Think of it from the opposite perspective. If a girl got your number would you rather she text you or call? This has limited utility because a girl is usually going to have a different perspective than a guy would. So trying to make a decision based on what you would want, could lead to you doing something you wish a girl would do, but that a girl would actually consider awkward or going too far.
/r/seduction25/12/15 09:37 AM
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Seen a lot of girls in toxic relationships with douchebags and crazy guys that are interested in me. When you know a girl is interested in you, but is in a toxic relationship, what's the best way to handle this? Look, I'm going to be blunt. If she's in a relationship, then she's NOT really interested in you. Here are the facts: While she's in a toxic relationship, unless she has made up her mind to break up with the guy NOW and/or is actually doing it NOW, her emotions are invested in that guy. …
/r/seduction25/12/15 09:33 AM
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I already severed ties with one girl who hit on me, who I then slept with, and had a GREAT emotional connection with, but suddenly didn't want to have anything to do with me anymore sexually. Now if you are talking about girls that you become "good friends" with and then you try to get in there and get turned down because they "value the friendship too much," then you're not pushing far enough, soon enough. That would be from playing it safe. But look here, if you got far enough to sleep with he…
/r/seduction25/12/15 09:23 AM
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Ok but you treat me What the fuck. She knows it is her turn to treat me, and I know she has enough money, so fuck her for trying to take advantage of me. Sounds like she's a girl who knows what she wants, which is a guy who is "traditional" and pays for everything. Her job is immaterial. And girls like this sometimes harbor fantasies of settling down with a guy who will allow them to be a "stay home" wife/mom. The problem is, she is making a lot of excuses and trying to come off like she would s…
/r/seduction25/12/15 12:34 AM
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I hear it all the time, girls can talk to me better than most guys, we share more interests, I'm more open minded, I can show emotions and feelings,... This is honestly not detrimental. Developing rapport and connecting with people is a boon to "seduction." No matter what people sometimes say about it being "bad" to be capable of making friends with a girl. BUT at the same time I hardly ever get laid... And when I do, it seems these girls can't continue viewing me as a sexual partner and much ra…
/r/seduction25/12/15 12:27 AM
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I also felt like an outsider, watching guys come in and be greeted by everyone as though they were regulars. Most of the "regulars" seemed to know how to dance salsa and bachata, and the girls were primarily interested in dancing with them. The prettiest girls remained within these cliques. Having seen salsa and bachata, do you want to learn them? Why not take classes? Learning partner dances like these can really help and be a lot of fun. You might think you're only learning a dance but the thi…
/r/seduction25/12/15 12:19 AM
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It's semi-sarcastic. I made it because I thought it's pretty obvious that such a thing would only work in high school, so the analysis isn't necessary. It was necessary to have something more constructive on a thread populated with complaints and sarcastic comments that I was seeing. It does sound like something that could be pulled off in high school. But it still provides something to reflect on so I dropped something more constructive on the thread. Like it or not, given the setting and the c…
/r/seduction24/12/15 12:26 AM
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Just goes to show the power of a wingman. Actually, it shows how different things are in high school, when everyone is so insecure. Outside of high school, much of this would be awkward, if it even worked at all. All that said, it's nice that this guy wanted to help his friend. But outside of HS, this really wouldn't fly. Ken got Taylor's number from someone else. This would usually be the kiss of death for someone's chances. But it flies because...... high school. If you do this outside of high…
/r/seduction21/12/15 12:13 AM
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I just see everyone else get into conversations with people they've just met, and even if things don't click, they're able to simply make conversation. This seems to show a lack of understanding for what you're observing. My mind blank slates and I just feel a wall. This makes it seem like your own doing, due to the way you're looking at all this. You're actually forcing it. If your mind is "blank slating," then you are creating your own wall here. And your focus is in the wrong place. If you're…
/r/seduction07/12/15 05:42 PM
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Recently I thought, if a girl was super into me and decided to put it all on the table and tell me how she feels, I would admire that and let her know if I felt the same way, simple as that. Sure. And it's great that this happened for you, but expecting most girls to stick their necks out like this, is not going to happen most of the time. But here, in this fucked up community, we always "assume attraction," Right......this common wisdom exists to encourage guys to make moves because they usuall…
/r/seduction07/12/15 05:29 PM
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Ok then, assuming youre right and was straight up friend zoned; She brought a date, man. Based on what you've said, this isn't an assumption. It's truth. is there any chance of recovery..... Nope. It sounds like she's possibly worth keeping as a social contact though, if you can handle that. She does seem to like you as a friend. And having a girl who puts in a good word for you with her friends or even with strangers you both meet, can be absolute GOLD. and what needs to be done? "Seduction," i…
/r/seduction30/11/15 11:42 PM
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exchanged facebook messages at work, she gave out her cell number subsequently a couple months of text and picture based conctact Look, I know you work with her, but going a couple of months was too long. Our views on ex boyfriends and ex girlfriends. Religious beliefs (that she initiated btw, I usually avoid that type of chat). Interests and hobbies; and work related stuff Doesn't matter who initiated it. All that kind of conversation...... you were being friend-zoned. Constantly texting me, se…
/r/seduction30/11/15 05:02 PM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction30/11/15 12:01 AM
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This post had to be removed, but I am still responding to it. :) So I've been on a flirting basis with a woman that works in a similar field as me (that's how we met); we've exchanged texts and pictures and have some nice conversations. Just how long have you "been on a flirting basis," with this woman? What have you had conversations about? How did you end up with her number/contact information? This woman has become really talkative and showing interest in me as of late so I thought things wer…
/r/seduction29/11/15 11:59 PM
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Linking to a 30-min video is fine, but you want people to watch it, I'd recommend posting a better summary of the points either in your post, on the landing page you're linking to, or stated at the beginning of the video.
/r/seduction29/11/15 11:49 PM
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I'm out with a group of good friends at a night club First off, you're in a club, which is a place geared around dancing. Do you like dancing? If so, then you should be getting into the groove after you arrive. Talking is nice and all, but that's not why people came there. and there are a few new girls I haven't met before but whom my friends know pretty well. I spot one girl in the group who's really pretty and want to talk to her. I go to speak to her and ask her name and how come we never met…
/r/seduction29/11/15 02:09 AM
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I've been learning/practicing seduction in hopes of bettering my chances in a relationship. Well, first off, it depends on what kind of "seduction" philosophy you're following, whether or not it will "help" you with this kind of thing. In my time practicing I've come across a girl who wants something purely casual, no strings attached style. Even if I wanted something more, would it be worth it to hook up with her to simply gain experience/confidence? She's attractive, has no intention of dating…
/r/seduction29/11/15 01:56 AM
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The worst part the girls don't even try to continue the convo with me when the other friend comes. Advice needed. Look, if the girls aren't trying to continue with you when their friend comes, then the truth is, that friend is coming over to bail the girl out because they don't want to talk to you. Period. Whatever you're doing, you probably need to change something up because the girl's friends won't come over and do things like that if the girl is into the guy.
/r/seduction27/11/15 09:58 AM
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Yes I agree that you don't necessarily need to make your intentions clear the minute you meet. Here's the thing though: if you don't know her and you're meeting her for the first time, then you are getting ahead of yourself if you think you have any "intentions" other than talking to her to see what she's about. And that doesn't require some declaration. You don't need to tell her, "I just wanted to say hi and yahda yahda...." She can see that with her own eyes when you walk up and say hi. And o…
/r/seduction27/11/15 09:56 AM
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I'm not good with touching so I'm going to need some help. What is the most effective way you do it? Overall, the main thing is that it's not about "the most effective way" to touch. Look up Kino in the sidebar. Then for the timing, it's about paying attention to the girl. You slowly move into her space over time. Casual touches are fine, like you might safely touch a family member or guy friend. But you PAY ATTENTION to the girl as you get closer to her and as you touch her. Her feedback tells …
/r/seduction27/11/15 09:37 AM
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When you first meet a female that you're interested in, should you always make your intentions clear so that she won't friendzone you? Look, this shit is not on a timer. You don't need to escalate with her or put kino on her in the first meeting. And you certainly don't need to state some sort of intention out-loud. Such as leaving little hints here and there, letting her know that you're interested. Little hints? This isn't Clue. Don't waste your time and energy leaving a trail of vague ass bre…
/r/seduction26/11/15 12:39 PM
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I'm not going to clubs expecting to talk about the meaning of life or whatever, I go there to dance to music drunk and hopefully get laid. Yeah, don't worry, I wasn't thinking that of you. I left this part in there, more for others who will be attracted to your post by the title and would need to know these things. People are having conversations, and it's something I'd like to improve on. True. Lots of fun to be had there. On a related note, if you're familiar with the places that groups meet u…
/r/seduction26/11/15 12:19 PM
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Or, alternatively, how you can manage to continue to sleep with hot girls who have terrible personalities without letting it make you too cynical. Obviously, you can't. It's not just that you are annoyed at yourself for wasting your time with them. It's because you're compromising yourself. Sleeping with girls you don't get along with.......the process of seducing and being intimate with girls like that, involves you selling out part of who you are. And that eats away at a person. Like many of y…
/r/seduction26/11/15 12:30 AM
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Is there any rule of thumb for whether or not or when you should pay for a girl on a date? No. Some care, some don't. Some prefer it, some don't. The question you should be asking yourself is, which do YOU prefer? Being more traditional? Or being more egalitarian? For example, I have dated girls for whom this was a deal breaker, but I haven't gotten along with those girls as people, so it didn't matter. For me, it's almost like I'm screening out girls that don't suit me. But YMMV.
/r/seduction26/11/15 12:17 AM
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Recently realised what my major stumbling block lately has been: I have no idea what to talk about in clubs. Actually, the stumbling block here is that looking at this in a different way would change much. It's not about "what to talk about" in clubs, parties, or other high energy events. Clubs are oriented around loud music and dancing. Neither of which involve really talking. People relate to others who are sharing the experience, not those who are holding themselves apart from it. So you'll h…
/r/seduction26/11/15 12:14 AM
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Your submission was removed because it's better suited for a forum geared towards the minutiae of etiquette.
/r/seduction25/11/15 09:46 AM
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I have a better question: how many guys here screen for girls who wouldn't sit there waiting for the car door to be opened for them? This whole subject is a matter of taste. Some girls like a guy who pays for everything, follows all the rules in those articles in Cosmopolitan about what "gentlemen" are supposed to do. Some girls don't want that guy. The question is, which kind of girl do YOU like? Someone who wants a "traditional" guy who does those things for her? Or someone who rates a guy on …
/r/seduction25/11/15 09:42 AM
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However I think you can become attracted to someone via a picture and then meet them and already have established attraction. No. It's so common for girls who are unattractive to stage their pictures so they look good. And this fact is such a common complaint of men, when they find out that she doesn't look as good as she represented. And your whole theory flies in the face of this very common factual situation. If your theory was true, then a guy who thinks that a picture of a girl is attractiv…
/r/seduction23/11/15 12:25 AM
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Basically what I did with kino on a lot of dates was I took it a bit too far without reading body language or their reactions. I basically jumped into the water without seeing if it was hot or cold. Oh, I see...... I had thought you were referring to this last girl. With the date this time, I decided to try a different approach and kino little by little (which was honestly difficult given that we sat at a table at the bar and were across from each other). This doesn't have to be a strike against…
/r/seduction22/11/15 11:50 PM
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Hello, this post is getting removed for being too basic and already answered. Look up kino in the SIDEBAR I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE If you really more feedback for this question though, please repost in /r/askseddit (not askReddit, but ask SEDDIT). Or wait for the Simple Questions thread on Seddit. Thank you!
/r/seduction21/11/15 03:07 AM
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My problem is not starting a conversation or mantining one, my problem is that I usually try to go for the funny/witty kind of answer and struggle to make the transition into flirty or sexual/sensual conversation or simply stating my interest. I struggle by even saying stupid things like "I love your smile" Look, this isn't how it works. You don't need to "transition" into "sexual conversation." "State your interest?" It's not like you need to give a girl compliments or tell her you want her. Yo…
/r/seduction21/11/15 03:02 AM
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The thing that throws me off is I can't figure out why other guys are able to get away with waiting it out, playing it cool, only hanging out with the girl 1-2x a week but with me they're almost upset if I'm not constantly texting them. I've brought this up with women and even my female friends I explain it to will glare at me like I'm some asshole for doing this and say, "Oh I HATE that," but I see guys doing it all the time and I see girls going along with it. Couple things: Your female friend…
/r/seduction21/11/15 02:55 AM
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Kino: check though I'm revamping it just because I did it far too much too fast without feeling the girl out before, tried it differently this time. Why do you say this? How was she reacting to it? Sexual Tension: Need to look this up It just means that you don't start going all in, right away. But really, it's not a big thing you need to worry about directly doing until you're making out with her or something. At that point, you can easily create sexual tension by NOT groping her in overtly sex…
/r/seduction21/11/15 02:48 AM
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How do you create a romantic connection? Attraction....chemistry..... You don't really "create" those things. The best a guy can do is be the best version of himself, discover his own style of "seduction," and get comfortable with that style. But when it comes to the actual "seduction," it's less about the guy doing something to the girl and more like a collaborative discovery process. If there's a possibility there for something to happen, you'll feel it in some way. It's also about the guy get…
/r/seduction21/11/15 02:44 AM
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Someone showing up at the date doesn't indicate investment in anything more than showing up. People go on dates to find out if they fit, not because they have already decided. Girls showed up to see if they fit with you, and your confidence overcame the fact that you deceived them with your morphed pics. Granted, your confidence was based on something flimsy, but it did the job. It's a little sad because if you got that far regardless of this deception, you really didn't need to morph your pictu…
/r/seduction21/11/15 02:09 AM
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Confidence is the expectation of a positive outcome--- to be confident that you'll have a positive outcome with the majority of girls you approach would be delusional. To be confident that EVERY girl would be into you, would be delusional. However, as to whether that percentage is a majority or minority, differs depending on the situation. Sometimes a guy is capable of having a run of bad or good luck. Confidence would be knowing that there will always be a percentage of girls out there who woul…
/r/seduction20/11/15 09:11 AM
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the girl I was with had to tell him to go away but he started doing an Indian accent and tried to get under my skin. Where are you finding these guys, really? It's like something out of a bad movie. (Sorry this is happening to you, also. No one should have to put up with this kind of BS.) It doesn't stop there either, guys who know me personally grow hostile and make claims like: "You're only with her because you hate being your own race" "Why not stick with your own race?" Whoa whoa whoa..... P…
/r/seduction20/11/15 12:00 AM
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This post had to be removed, but I'll still answer it.. Where can my brother post anonymously a picture of his fiancee, to be rated honestly by many guys? This is seriously an incredibly irrelevant thing to ask. It matters not, now other guys would rate her. She is an ugly, bitchy warpig 2/10 feminist, while only he sees her as HB angel 9/10......How can we help my brother not destroy his life, because he is planning to marry her..... Your brother is going through whatever he needs to go through…
/r/seduction19/11/15 05:36 PM
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This post was removed because it falls outside the scope of Seddit. It might be better suited to /r/relationships
/r/seduction19/11/15 05:31 PM
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Hey guys. Can you give me some pointers on the difference between being being attractive in terms of wealth vs. being the nice guy who always pays for dates? What do you even mean here? Attractive in terms of wealth, is not a personal characteristic and describes what gold diggers are after. Being the nice guy who always pays, is like being a doormat. Neither of these options, as you've described them, are good. BOTH of them suck. I know that letting the girl pay for drinks etc. is a common them…
/r/seduction19/11/15 03:47 PM
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No you're mistaking the word confidence for delusion. If you can't tell the difference between delusion and confidence..... You have some easy areas of improvement you could target. Like developing your research skills. .....essentially women aren't attracted to men with little boy faces, and for good reason --- regardless of game/confidence) Clearly your "little boy face" doesn't matter if someone slept with you..... not only after seeing it in real life, but even after you lied to them with a …
/r/seduction19/11/15 03:28 PM
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....I can initiate only pretty lame conversations, which I think can make progressing much harder. Yep, this thing works quite well sometimes, what is hard for me is to start a conversation at all. If she does something to which I can ask (e.g. "What are you readig?") it's okay, but I can experience some embarssing moments of silence even in that case. You're perhaps overlooking the easiest way. All those "lame" starts to conversation..... don't necessarily make it "harder." Not if you go deeper…
/r/seduction19/11/15 03:15 PM
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To fix myself: I wanted to say that I can be interested in much things without even the smallest level of repulsion. There are things that define me but if I'm interested, I can like the opposite as well. (e.g. heavy metal vs. electronic) I can "take" the interest of most of the girls (I think so at least), but when it comes, whether they can "take" mine...I'm unsure. You ought to be careful here. If you really don't like a certain thing, you're not really capable of "taking" it on. Not really. …
/r/seduction19/11/15 12:25 PM
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Ive approached around 2-3 thousand women in real life. I've tried confident, funny, unconfindent, unfunny and every type of "game" imaginable. I've gone out with about 20 different wings along the way (5 year journey) and 2 of them were RSD instrcutors. Despite the work involved here, if you weren't really confident in yourself, it won't matter how much you tried. If you felt you needed a modified picture to get in the door, then you never "tried" a "confident" approach. Wingmen or not, doesn't …
/r/seduction19/11/15 09:54 AM
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A lot of guides that talks about lifestyle aspects always suggest in a form to change, often implying drastical changes. Not always. The overall theme is that many guys are here because they aren't getting the success they want in their dating lives. Sometimes this takes big changes. Sometimes all it takes is a tweak here or there. Not everyone starts from the same place. Of course, I'm aware that if you want to be the No.1., you must have a lifestyle that is within certain conditons, You seem t…
/r/seduction19/11/15 12:28 AM
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They did notice. But attraction had already been built. Attraction built on something fake, evaporates once the truth is known. Especially when it's clear that someone felt they needed that deception to get in the door. It shows lack of confidence. You might have gotten somewhere in the short term with those girls, but your long term chances would have been seriously damaged. If you got anywhere, you were overcoming an extra handicap, probably due to the Placebo Effect: you thought it was your l…
/r/seduction19/11/15 12:13 AM
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This post had to be removed but I'll still answer it..... I'm friends with this girl at school and we're decently close but we don't like talk everyday or anything like that. How long have you known this girl? Normally if you've known someone longer than a month without making a move, you're probably in the friend-zone. Everyone always seems to be interested in her but I can't quite guage her interest or if she's into the whole dating thing at all and really haven't figured out how to approach h…
/r/seduction18/11/15 02:05 PM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction18/11/15 01:58 PM
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Your post comes off like trolling. Fast forward to 1 month ago. I paid a guy to make a morph of my pictures (to make me better looking) and then put these pictures on tinder. I got 5 dates in one week and lost my virginity (within one week of making this tinder) This doesn't pass the laugh test. If your looks were really such an impediment, and you had to change your picture just to get matches and dates with girls, then those girls would have seen IMMEDIATELY that you don't look like your pictu…
/r/seduction18/11/15 01:55 PM
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Your submission was removed because it contains no real actionable advice. The idea that your picture directly led to the loss of your virginity, is objectively false.
/r/seduction18/11/15 01:48 PM
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The interview feeling usually occurs when you ask a question, then after she answers, you ask an unrelated question (changing the subject), which accidentally makes it seem like you didn't give 2 shits about what she just said or you weren't listening. Look, all you have to do is actively listen to the girl when she's answering a question. You listen until she's done talking. (So no thinking about what you want to say!) When she's done talking, you think about what she just said, then answer bas…
/r/seduction18/11/15 09:08 AM
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Thanks for the response, the thing that you said about just letting any guy in is on point I think. Well, even though a girl fresh out of a break-up may let "any guy" in, my point about that was more to draw attention to the fact that guys typically initiate dating situations so all a girl has to do is just let a guy in, to get back on the horse. I moved into this dorm 4 years ago and she lived across the hall from me. I approached her, she liked me, and within a week we were fucking each other.…
/r/seduction18/11/15 09:03 AM
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We broke up like fucking 4 months ago, we were together for almost 3 years. This is not a unique situation. I have some questions: How did you meet? How was it when it was good?" How and why did things go bad? Were you aware on some level, at least, that things were going bad? What things died in the relationship first, and which things were "healthy" the longest? Who broke up with who? (I'm guessing her, but tell me anyway) How did the break-up happen, exactly? Answer these questions, and I can…
/r/seduction17/11/15 01:16 PM
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They know if they're aroused, just as often as men know. Whether or not they act on it, is another case; the situation is not always ideal for them to express their sexuality, and society throws up a lot of roadblocks for them that we don't have to deal with.
/r/seduction16/11/15 12:16 AM
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I was having a conversation with a female friend recently, and we talked about our "types" for guys (I'm bi). She mentioned how she actually liked shy guys instead of the typical alpha male kind of guys. By shy, she doesn't mean someone who can't hold eye contact or anything, but just someone who isn't a "social butterfly". We don't know her, so it's difficult to say for sure. Couple possibilities here. As someone else on this thread said, she might like a guy who is confident but introverted. S…
/r/seduction16/11/15 12:15 AM
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A little bit background: I'm Asian, 18, international student, Kind of irrelevant. ;) go to a college where the only form of entertainment is bar (small college town) Hmmmm. Even if it's a small town, there are likely forms of entertainment that are less well known. I'd find myself sitting alone in the patio when my friends are having fun and dancing in the dance floor, and really can't find courage to just go there and talk to new people. And I'd walk home alone, frustrated. Couple things: If i…
/r/seduction16/11/15 12:05 AM
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This post did need to be removed because it does not fit the posting guidelines; it concerns a basic issue that is covered in the Sidebar. It's late in the game but you could repost it to /r/askseddit if you wish, or wait for the Simple Questions thread.
/r/seduction15/11/15 11:50 PM
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This had to be removed, but I'm still responding to it..... I have no one to talk to about it so I figured hey let's fucking whine to strangers on the Internet. Maybe you're expecting people to be mean, but your attitude is not too good here. Rather unkind to yourself, actually. I replied that I am not a matchmaker, but if she likes him she's welcome to go and introduce herself, so she did (I guess it is the best reaction to have in that case, isntit?) Your reaction didn't matter. She was showin…
/r/seduction15/11/15 11:47 PM
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Even though it's a bit better now, I can't seem to get over how much I missed out on over the years. Missed out on what? You needed that time to get to who you are now. You missed out on nothing. Early explorations, dating young, feminine girls, like 18-22. I succeed with them sometimes, but often they seem turned off by my age when they find out (I look young), and I guess I won't be able to date them at all past 30. No. You're missing the truth here. There will always be girls who are not into…
/r/seduction15/11/15 01:58 PM
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I'm very emphatic but in situations like approaching or dates, I tend to focus on myself to not screw up. I was much the same way. The irony is, when you're focused on not screwing up, you're pulling all your resources away from her, and locking them up in your head. Which makes it more likely that you'll "screw up." Good luck, man!
/r/seduction15/11/15 04:22 AM
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.....she made herself clear that she's ready for marriage and children and stuff. I outright told her that I didn't have any of that things on my mind not now nor the foreseeable future ...... OH...... so actually, it's not quite insecurity. It's actually kind of like her rejecting your advances because you've both said that you want different things. She wants to settle down, start a family, etc. You said you don't even want any part of that. This is a mismatch. A pretty glaring one. So it's al…
/r/seduction15/11/15 04:19 AM
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Would be easier for me to find some other girl who doesn't have this "situation", with better logistics and etc. But I kinda liked her. Dude, if you like her, just go for it. If she really wants to have sex....... she. will. work. with. you. But she probably won't if your sole focus is getting to the sex part. Reason why I asked about doing it in the back of a theater was firstly I know a place would be good for that. Might be good, in the sense of privacy, but you have NO idea if it's what she …
/r/seduction15/11/15 04:09 AM
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If I were to try to fuck her in the toilet of a movie theater, or you know, somewhere public, would she be okay with that? Dude. We are NOT her. You shouldn't be listening to us. You should be paying attention to HER. Now off-hand, you shouldn't be trying to do her in a theater bathroom. Honestly, how would that even work? That would necessitate you escalating in a theater, which usually doesn't go well. But your final call should come from her. Or should I just postpone sex to second or third d…
/r/seduction14/11/15 07:33 PM
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I get that women don't want to talk about their job, the weather, or the other boring monotonous bullshit especially when they are out trying to have fun. As others have implied, this is not true. They want to talk about whatever they want to talk about. That might be the weather or their job. You just listen and follow their lead to find that out. I don't understand where/how to direct the conversation with some girls. As others have mentioned, you allow what they say to determine where you dir…
/r/seduction14/11/15 03:17 PM
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Asked her to a concert...... Unfortunately she worked that evening and couldn't go. I ask when the next time she is free is and she just replies with an "I don't know" type response. I ask if a couple times this next week work and she tells me she has plans with her family (sister's birthdays) and then she starts weekly overnights at her job starting Wednesday. Two options here: She is trying to show lack of interest, in an indirect or nice way. Girls can face some steep and harsh social penalti…
/r/seduction14/11/15 03:13 PM
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Why? No offense but this is a very idealistic view, which is sadly common among people on the internet offering relationship advice. What is sad, is that you have convinced yourself that something statistically probable is impossible, and that something incredibly improbable, is a certainty. Have you ever considered that such a view is common, because it's true? Look around, it's a cynical world. NO one would say that it's going to necessarily work out, but people are interested in such a wide v…
/r/seduction14/11/15 02:56 PM
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I think at 27 there's going to be some bad stigma associated with that. It's only as bad as you think it is. Think about it, man. She's been dating you for MONTHS now. So obviously it's working for her. Do you really think at this point that she's going to give two sh-ts about the fact that it's your first relationship? This is like if some dude is good at basketball and gets drafted by an NBA team and then worries that they'll cut him just because he never played college ball or NBA before. The…
/r/seduction13/11/15 03:33 PM
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You're asking about how you handle a break-up, right? Of course, time will help. But to speed things up, there are a lot of things you can do. Like, realize a few things It didn't work out. Seduction, relationships...... they require both people wanting it, in order to work. Something didn't match up with you guys. There is nothing personal about this. You can take two people who are great and they might not be great together. If it was supposed to work out with this girl, she wouldn't be breaki…
/r/seduction13/11/15 03:22 PM
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I took lots of lessons when I was a kid. I've been on a bit of a hiatus and decided to pursue it again as a side passion.....Any of you music guys have some advice for using this to woo women? Yeah. Asshat Billy is right. Don't try to use it as a tool in itself. Do it because you love it. It might be a good conversation piece IF the conversation naturally allows for it but I wouldn't try to shoehorn it in or it'd seem like humble brag. If things get far enough along though, you might be able to …
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:48 AM
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Even though this post had to be taken down, I'll also still answer it. It's one of two things: no girls have EVER liked me and hence I've never seen any signs which would alert me OR they have shown signs but either I was confused or missed them entirely. There seems to be some confusion on your part here. That's okay. But what you've done here is tell us the result, without giving us anything about what is leading to this result. That said: The idea that NO girls have ever liked you is ridiculo…
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:33 AM
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This post had to be removed because it is a basic question that is covered in the sidebar..... Check there or wait and post in the Simple Questions thread on Seddit, or at /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:26 AM
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Any of these would yield a different result than what OP got. If you want, I can elaborate on why. "Any of these..". k. Only if you had the time and desire, I would appreciate if you elaborated why to this: Maybe her grandma died last week...... Low probability. This kind of situation would more likely lead to her not even being up for the escalation short of kissing, that OP described. Or maybe she is recovering from oral herpes. Low probability. Funny thing about situations like herpes or anyt…
/r/seduction13/11/15 09:34 AM
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I appreciate your insight. I'm on the edge right now of starting to more aggressively pursue casual dates (hikes, etc.) with girls that I meet in public randomly, but fear of rejection is alive and well. You've just got to do the work on yourself here. You have these irrational fears and you seem to have enough self-awareness that you could identify the irrational thoughts associated with those fears. In this case, it would seem to be easy to target thoughts of rejection, because if the girl is …
/r/seduction13/11/15 09:24 AM
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This girl and i have been hooking up maybe once or twice a week for the past month or so and it finally got to the point where we had the classic i dont see a relationship happening blah blah blah. So she saw you as a fling but is ready for something that's not a fling. And people often have sex with people they don't want to be with long term. I asked her if we could still hook up just for fun. And she said i suck at sex. I haven't been sexually acvtive for very long and im pretty sure she has …
/r/seduction13/11/15 12:13 AM
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Every girl kisses differently and likes to kiss differently. Right. However, there are people who are good kissers and there are people who are bad at it. Right. I feel like I don't get told as often as I'd like that I'm a good kisser.... Well, people don't always tell you if you're good for them. Often they assume that you know. What kind of feedback ARE you aware of in this department? Are you saying that people have told you that you're a good kisser? If so, then you're probably over-thinking…
/r/seduction13/11/15 12:03 AM
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Thanks! Ooh. Good question. I don't know. It seemed "too easy" I guess? Dude. This makes me sad. "Too easy," is usually a hallmark of something having a great vibe. Did you not find her attractive? Then you shouldn't pass it up! Sometimes I meet women and I subconsciously think that they are out to get something from me. Maybe they are trying to get something. A lot of people like to have good company and be around people that make them feel good. And you made her feel good. Read what YOU wrote …
/r/seduction12/11/15 11:51 PM
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The problem is when you come across as so confident and secure with yourself, as well as having the stability and awesome life that a normal guy could provide her girls realize that they have met their PERFECT GUY and she will make you wait for sex.. because she's ultimately looking for a BOYFRIEND just like most guys into seduction are honestly looking for their special girl. Couple things here: Putting off the "stability" and "provider" vibe is not so much about presenting as too high in value…
/r/seduction12/11/15 03:26 PM
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In my experience, I've learned to always expect the outlier. In the game of love, the only constant seems to be surprise after surprise after surprise. There are verifiable patterns in human development. There are plenty of things that are textbook, or at least well examined in the realm of research. The cycle of abuse. The signs of low self-esteem. What an alcoholic family looks like. Dysfunctional love. And what it looks like when people overcome dysfunction together. I've studied those things…
/r/seduction12/11/15 02:54 PM
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Obviously if you act like a friend then you'll be treated as a friend, but is there any golden rule to calibrating kino for past history? If there is, it's the same "rule" that applies normally. Pay attention to the girl. You make cautious moves pay attention to her reactions, and calibrate on the fly. It's the same whether you know her before, or not.
/r/seduction12/11/15 02:44 PM
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Maybe her grandma died last week and she just didn't feel like kissing him. Or maybe she is recovering from oral herpes. Or maybe she just doesn't enjoy kissing very much. Or maybe she didn't like OP that much. Maybe she wasn't insecure, and just didn't like OP. Any of these would yield a different result than what OP got. If you want, I can elaborate on why. Speaking of projecting, you seem rather hung up on rather uncontroversial use of the word, "insecure." Asking someone why they would choos…
/r/seduction12/11/15 11:41 AM
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High conversational permission = Small gathering of friends......Lower conversational permission = Sporting Event....Even lower conversational permission = At a resturant (booth seating) .....Super Low conversational permission = Broadway theatre performance I'd urge you to stop thinking of these things in terms of "Place X makes it easier/harder to talk to a stranger." It's more about situations. There are situations that stand as exceptions. what locations make engaging a person very easy.....…
/r/seduction12/11/15 11:26 AM
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At bars and parties most of the time I'm too intimidated/self conscious/nervous to even really talk to girls that aren't already friends of mine, let alone make moves. Part of the trick is to realize that "seduction" is nothing more than socializing. So spending time talking and having fun with your friends, is a good warm-up. Meeting people and chatting about whatever..... is warm up . And this is when I'm more than a few drinks in. The problem is that this lack of success is kind of fucking wi…
/r/seduction12/11/15 11:17 AM
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Her fear of HIM was larger than her enjoyment of him. That almost makes it sound like she was threatened by him. She wouldn't have reacted the same way to his attempt to kiss her. Insecurity, is about yourself. Right....... Maybe she thinks OP might just makeout with her and never call her again..... Or bang her and never call her again. This is insecurity. Insecurity that she isn't good enough to keep his attention.
/r/seduction12/11/15 11:02 AM
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Maybe she thinks OP might just makeout with her and never call her again. Or bang her and never call her again. This is insecurity. Fear...... is insecurity. I mean, really. You have a girl who was in the moment, having a kiss, and she couldn't enjoy it without feeling compelled to shut things down because she couldn't get it out of her mind that he must be doing other girls.
/r/seduction12/11/15 10:45 AM
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I answered "just 'cause" (bad answer, I know). No. Not a bad answer, so much as a question that indicates she is insecure OR you weren't paying close enough attention to her and went in too early. She instead "attacked" me, and said that I probably make out with all the girls I go out with (I said that wasn't true, obviously). Definitely insecure. After that I acted cold towards her (seduction 101) and she obviously replied with a lot of hugs and kisses (on the cheek, not lips). Anyway, I think …
/r/seduction12/11/15 09:25 AM
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......I am dealing with pretty much every night out clubbing. .......she reacts really well to it and all of a sudden her friends pull her away and look angry at me. When they walk away the girl I was just talking with smiles at me and I make a gesture like "¯_(ツ)_/¯". The fact that this happens so often, indicates that the girl is actually being bailed out by her friends. Like she doesn't want to be in the interaction with you, but doesn't feel comfortable rejecting you overtly/directly. If she…
/r/seduction12/11/15 09:19 AM
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Niiiiice. Thoroughly enjoyed this! (I had a story like this but it involved counter-intuitively following up the slap, with a kiss. Don't know why I knew that was the right thing to do, but it was.)
/r/seduction12/11/15 09:10 AM
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I got a semi-sketchy vibe, so I probably won't pursue. Good story!! Out of curiosity, what do you think the basis of this "semi-sketchy vibe," is? And what do you mean, exactly, by "semi-sketchy?" You had a girl you find very attractive, tell you some cool things and seemingly connect with her. So I'm struggling to figure out why you're working so hard to come up with a reason not to follow up on her.
/r/seduction12/11/15 09:05 AM
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I'm a little worried that it'll be too easy to fall into the "chatty friend/hangout" mode, and that it'll be difficult navigating the conversation in a way that creates romantic tension. You are over-thinking this. And looking in the wrong direction. You don't initiate something more happening by "navigating the conversation" to create tension of any kind, "romantic" or otherwise. You make moves. That's it. Want something more, than you have to DO more. Look up Kino in the side-bar.
/r/seduction12/11/15 09:01 AM
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His reasoning is that he doesn't want anything to stop the girl from reaching the club with him. His "reasoning" is a smokescreen. He wants to feel like he runs a bunch of girls and doesn't want competition. He's ridiculous. He's letting fear run his decisions. Really, it doesn't pass the laugh test. Just because you talk to them, doesn't keep them from going to the club. Hell, it doesn't keep you and the girl from going to the club together. Plus, social networking isn't some perishable "work" …
/r/seduction11/11/15 08:57 AM
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That happens to most guys in such places. :P Sometimes if you want a different vibe, you might try a gay dance club, actually. Often straight girls will go there just to have fun, because most of the guys there won't try anything, obviously. The only problem is when too many straight girls go there and then the straight guys follow, turning it into a straight club and pushing the gay people out.
/r/seduction11/11/15 12:36 AM
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That was actually my point. OP was talking about how it's "hard to make his intentions clear" because she's friendly to everyone, when the real issue was that he worries she isn't interested because of her friendliness. You'll note what I said after that.
/r/seduction09/11/15 11:09 PM
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Lets say that for whatever reason, you missed out on sex during your high school and college years and were late to the party. Okay. Easy. Because I did. And I didn't even really attend parties. When I did, it was pretty much a terrible time. The only party I can recall being invited to, was because some cute girl I knew wanted to set me up with her extremely unattractive friend. Rather than being the cool kid who was getting laid in high school or the frat boy who was fucking girls during colle…
/r/seduction09/11/15 05:23 PM
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So for anyone struggling a bit right now, maybe reflect on where you are meeting women/taking girls out. Can you help yourself a little more by going to places where you feel more at ease? By all means, play to your strengths. However...... Fast forward a week and I'm in a nightclub in a city.......I was getting a lot of attention from women......But I couldn't hold a conversation. ......The problem here is that you don't go to nightclubs to hold a conversation. You go there to party. Loud music…
/r/seduction09/11/15 05:04 PM
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Right now we're snapping but she's not really conversing. Its really dull and puts a damper on the whole thing. I wouldn't bother snapping. I'd say, don't drive yourself up the wall, if that's happening at all. Focus on real world for awhile. Surely you have things you could be doing outside of social media. Then get back to her, as you said.
/r/seduction09/11/15 03:15 PM
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I'm stuck in a rut with where I invite women to a first date. I'm sick of the bar scene, but I feel like it's the only acceptable place to meet someone new. Wait, you want a place to meet new people? Or a place for first dates with the people you've met? Where do you invite people to go on a first date? In addition to what SafeForW0rk said, there's hiking, parks, grabbing food (snacks or a meal), drinks (coffee, alcoholic, whatever), partner dance classes. Really it depends. What are you into? A…
/r/seduction09/11/15 12:34 PM
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I don't know how much you all know about these socials but essentially you pre-game at the fraternity house with drinking games and things of that nature, and then you take a bus to a venue (usually a club/bar) and everyone dances. Typically in a dirty fashion because everyone is hammered. Here's my biggest problem. I can't dance. Like at all. I had this worry. Used to be afraid of dance floors. So I took some dance classes. I was so excited that I'd be able to hold my own at least. And then I w…
/r/seduction09/11/15 12:26 PM
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My problem is she so friendly its hard to make my intentions clear that I'm interested in her. Her friendliness doesn't make it harder for you to make your intentions clear. It makes it harder for you to know if she is attracted to you. But on the bright side, if you make your intentions clear, she will show if she's really attracted. How do you make your intentions clear? Through actions. You have to make moves. Look up kino in the sidebar.
/r/seduction09/11/15 12:10 PM
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She went into depth asking me about my sexual preferences, which I answered since I'm not modest. We then made plans for me to stay at her place in two nights. Are you sure you answered because you're "not modest," or was it really because you got a charge out of talking so blatantly about sex? Keep in mind, talking about sex too overtly, can have a way of putting too much pressure on you and the other person. It's fairly common for people to fizzle out before sex ever happens, when they blow th…
/r/seduction09/11/15 12:05 PM
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I've always been told that I'm an 'awkward boyfriend'... By who? I realize that you probably mean by your GF but this whole post is WAY too short and vague. If you take such an approach at communication with your GF, that won't help matters. Relationships NEED great communication. Even when I'm with a girl that I really like I still have trouble with the small things that seem to come natural to others. What "small things? And why do you think such things are natural to anyone?
/r/seduction09/11/15 05:10 AM
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This has happened twice now, it's kind of frustrating. What are some common causes of this? Firstly, twice is not too many times. Secondly, you actually want an answer, but you've asked such a broad question about something without telling us a thing about these situations. Only that things ended after sex. Presumably after the first time with each girl, but you weren't even specific about that. Maybe I'm getting too needy after sex? I feel like I'm keeping the same tone as a did before the sex.…
/r/seduction09/11/15 05:07 AM
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I told her I was going to take her on a date next week(and this time I will) and she wanted to go with me(after two f##king months). So I guess all's well that ends with her saying yes to meeting up? You now know that you could go sooner..... for future reference, once you have established that you both pass the Turing Test, you should try to suggest meeting. (Basically, if they can demonstrate enough thought in their messages that they are definitely not a bot....) But I am now thinking, what a…
/r/seduction09/11/15 04:52 AM
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You must be into simple pickup/RSD. I'll tell you why they suck. Interesting theory. But anyone who likes simple pickup/RSD, probably won't listen to your words because of your antagonistic choice of words. Of course, as a manifesto, it's fine. You are coming from the mindset of selling "sex" to the girl, but what you dont know is that you are playing an unfair numbers game because women can EASILY get sex from ANYONE even fat women can have sex with men of model calibur, because men will fuck a…
/r/seduction09/11/15 12:10 AM
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I have had multiple prospective girls tell me, both directly and in group settings, that "I am so sassy" over text. This feedback is pretty much worthless. In what context have they been saying these things? Did they explain why they said these things? Also, how far did you get with any of these girls? I am pretty sure this is just me being sarcastic, joking around, not giving straight forward answers, and defeating their shit tests. However I could be wrong. Could be. However, you've distinctly…
/r/seduction07/11/15 12:12 PM
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.....joined a few societies recently after being completely alone throughout high school and the past 2 years at college, So...... you're building a social foundation after isolation for YEARS. Cut yourself some slack. Rome wasn't built in a day. after getting drunk a few times and trying to talk to people I didnt know I came out without any new contacts or friends or anything. You did get drunk. That impairs your abilities to interact with people. Some people can handle it, some can't. There's …
/r/seduction07/11/15 03:21 AM
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There is no specific instance to bring up an example, but say you're out with your best mate, how do you deal with both of you liking the same person? You both have to be good sports and mature about it. We're currently at a loss as to how best to deal with it. Tossing coins isn't an option, nor is both of us charging in at the same time. First off, you guys have to realize that it's not up to YOU. Or your buddy. It's up to HER. So tossing coins, competing, whatever...... it's all irrelevant. Ju…
/r/seduction07/11/15 03:14 AM
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Exactly, a family member who is very close to him probably was the one who gave him that information & I avoid people because I can't connect with them: it's been going on for about 13 years in a row. Are you sure that isn't concern? It really sounds like these guys are concerned. Also, it sounds like you might be pulling away from people, but there's nothing to say that you "can't connect," so much as you won't, for whatever reason. I'm sure you have your reasons. But apparently people are worr…
/r/seduction07/11/15 02:13 AM
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Even though this post had to be removed, I will still reply to it.... So I have this girl I work with (not the one from my last post) and I just met her yesterday. We come along very well and I make a tons of jokes. Usually I make fun of her and she also laughs about it and then she jokes about me. Problem is that basically 85% of our conversations are this "banter (?)" We talk a lot since we work together the whole day but yeah, it is really much joking around. And I was wondering if that might…
/r/seduction07/11/15 02:07 AM
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This post had to be removed because it violates the posting rules: It's about advice for one girl, rather than a conceptual question. You could post again in /r/askseddit or wait for the Simple Questions Thread that pops up in Seddit.
/r/seduction07/11/15 01:48 AM
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Like the title says, we all hang out in a group of friends and me and the girl I like are both single. So..... Just being thorough here, but how long have you known her? Here are the things that annoy me... She got out of a small relationship a few months ago and occasionally brings him up. She has told me that they will never get back together though. Doesn't matter. If you're the confidante, that puts you more in the friend-zone. It sounds like you've built a nice friendship with this girl. An…
/r/seduction07/11/15 01:42 AM
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Any bearded guys' opinions on girls that attracted to a certain type of look or age? Look, this is really not an important question. Some girls will like any particular kind of look, and others will dislike that same look. You're looking for concrete numbers..... that is pointless. Do what you want.
/r/seduction06/11/15 07:34 PM
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I've known this friend for about a year now........Just wondering what you all's opinion is on how this is looking. Look, right off, I really don't have to read more. When you wait a YEAR without making a move, you establish yourself as a nonsexual person to them. Someone that they don't take seriously as a sexual or romantic prospect. Think about it: People know who they're into within minutes of meeting. You wanted weeks, months.... no, a YEAR, without making a move. Anyone who was into you, w…
/r/seduction06/11/15 07:24 PM
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All up to you, but prepare to play the dating game on hard mode if you choose to stay celibate. I agree with this..... Personally, I think it's hard enough as an average or even above average guy in the dating world. The top 20% of men are getting most of the girls out there. Not an excuse, but there is major competition. But this is riddled with a ton of assumptions based on pretty bullshit "statistics." It's not like you can divide guys up into objective categories like, "average," or "above a…
/r/seduction06/11/15 03:36 PM
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I'm in my late 20s, and I can't help to be quite attracted to/turned on by younger women (18-21 etc.). Nothing wrong with that. And honestly, you're not that far from them. With a title like this, usually it's a guy in his 30s or 40s. Most of this is in your head, man. I'd like to hear from men in their late20s/30s/40s+ who have had great results with younger women. Anything you can share would be greatly valued :) Basically, most of my dating life has been with girls in the 18-25 range, with qu…
/r/seduction06/11/15 03:27 PM
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I don't know how to escalate on the dancefloor. Is the idea to socialize,make a connection, and then suggest to go dance? Or should I be finding girls on the dancefloor? There are two ways to go about this. If you're more comfortable talking than dancing, then be in an area where you can actually talk. Open them, build rapport, then kino. After you've built rapport, you may end up dancing with them. But it's not required. What's required is kino. If you are comfortable dancing, then just GO DANC…
/r/seduction06/11/15 09:31 AM
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This post is being removed because it concerns advice about one girl / it's too specific a situation, which belongs in /r/askseddit. You can repost it there or wait for the Simple Questions Thread here on Seddit.
/r/seduction06/11/15 09:24 AM
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That's because he literally told me I don't have any friends, which is true. What?! Under what context did he tell you this? This sounds kind of mean. Also, what is keeping you from meeting people or connecting with them? He knows I'm a loner bc he knows my family...... Why would knowing your family tell him that? and they know how much I avoid people. They = your family? Meaning that he talks to your family and your family told him this about you? Also, why do you avoid people?
/r/seduction06/11/15 09:13 AM
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i honestly have not considered that i might not be "over it" although now that you've said it, i can't help thinking it's true. :( It's okay.... we all have to be somewhere, emotionally. This is just where you are now. NOTHING wrong with that. You don't need to force it, really. When you've had enough, you'll be compelled to find your way out of it and onto something different. Feel free to update us/me later on this.... Good luck!
/r/seduction06/11/15 09:10 AM
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....i was in a serious relationship for a long time and it ended kind of bad. Sorry to hear that. That sh-t can really bite. That's alright, i got over it, but i don't want to do all that again, i don't want to invest emotionally in any relationship......i always try to remain very guarded......i always get the "this isn't working out" which is fine, but then I have to restart the whole process of getting to know someone, getting comfortable with them so i am able to relax and have a sexual rela…
/r/seduction05/11/15 11:07 PM
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I'm down for anything except marriage and kids, except he might be looking for that, according to his OKC. If I fell for the right person I guess it could happen. Did you ever meet him or go out with him before friend-zoning him? If you did...... then he's almost certainly not the "right person." If he were, then you probably wouldn't feel like "meeting someone else" would be such a big draw. He knows he lost out to another guy because 1.) I was honest with him, "Hey, sorry to do this, but I met…
/r/seduction05/11/15 10:45 PM
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I feel like I'm pretty awesome but I don't know how to demonstrate that. It's good to have healthy confidence, but it's not necessary to go out of your way to demonstrate anything overtly. If you really are awesome, people will know without you having to tell a story. Think about the awesome people you know. The ones who really make an impression, don't need to tell a story. People just pick up a vibe. If you're going out of your way to demonstrate something, it's too likely that you'll actually…
/r/seduction05/11/15 01:54 PM
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I friendzoned someone 6 months ago and now am reconsidering. ;) Do I call or text, and what do I say? It really depends. What exactly are you "reconsidering?" What do you want here? I'd have to know that before I'd even try to recommend what to do. Dude was friendzoned because of a superior competitor, essentially, and he knows that. You're sure he knows? How do you know that he knows? And by this, I'd assume that you only want this friend-zoned guy for something casual. But that's over and I'm …
/r/seduction05/11/15 11:29 AM
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Going to go against the grain here. Freeze-outs are limited in their effectiveness. There is so much wrong with them. They are really like throwing a fit. They're negative. Pulling back because you didn't get what you want, when you wanted it, is selfish and counter-productive. I've talked to girls who were frozen out. They KNOW what is going down. So you're going to turn off girls who are actually worth getting at. And conversely, if the girl is in a weak position and has low self-esteem, then …
/r/seduction05/11/15 11:06 AM
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I've come across a lot posts about seducing girls but not much on how to get guys to like you. First point: You don't "get" people to like you. You get to know them. During that process, you find out if there is a mutual connection of some sort. I'm not really looking for anything serious but i want to have sex and im uncomfortable with casually hooking up. This will be tricky. You need to really understand this MORE. Because if you're having sex but not looking for something serious, that by de…
/r/seduction05/11/15 10:45 AM
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Yeah, maybe I shouldn't put his opinion on a pedestal because when I less know it: he'll already be out of my life. Well, there's no reason to jump to conclusions. You barely know him, right? Just make friends. Talk to people. Girls and boys. If you want to feel more welcome, you're going to want friends of both genders. When it comes to the label, I'm guessing now I'd fit in the 'desperate' bc he knows I don't have any friends much less a boyfriend (at least not right now). Again, it's a waste …
/r/seduction05/11/15 10:02 AM
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During the early stages I got rejected a lot.......with time I got damn good and started getting laid a lot. Here's the thing, this technique you're describing, is not effective by itself. It's effective because you got good at game. You have to be good in order to overcome the inherent problems with verbalizing this kind of thing, before anything has happened. Why? Because verbalizing sexual things, before sex is a great way to activate her "anti-slut defense," as people refer to it. You're swi…
/r/seduction05/11/15 12:36 AM
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I don't believe you. Pausing like that seems like it'd be incredibly awkward. It's literally only as awkward as you feel it is. It's awkward because you aren't used to doing something like that. Granted, this style isn't for everyone. Most guys can do quite well by just looking into her eyes and leaning in.
/r/seduction05/11/15 12:23 AM
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I CHECKED HIM OUT (don't actually want to sleep with him/or anyone else right now). That's INCREDIBLY direct. If he saw you AND realized what you were doing (some guys are dense), then he'd see that as obvious, but NOT direct. There's a difference. Actions speak louder than words. "Direct" would be opening him. Starting a conversation with him. Initiating touches on him first. But just looking? No. In any case, even if you checked him out, it wouldn't put you in the "slut" category. If you have …
/r/seduction05/11/15 12:21 AM
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Pretty much what the title says. I feel like anytime I talk to a girl, whether im attracted to her or not, I end up talking to her like she's "one of the guys" as if I've known her forever. I even call them "dude" or "man", etc. This doesn't really matter. Now this is just fine for the women I'm not attracted too as it just creates a friendly atmosphere between us, but how can I be more forward with the ones I am attracted to? I mean I'm putting myself in the friendzone here. Talking comfortably…
/r/seduction05/11/15 12:16 AM
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I am an Indian guy in Germany. Face-wise, I am not hideous, not hot. But I am and look super fit. I dress and groom well too. My confidence has shot up and I have gotten desensitized to chatting up women. Your looks don't matter so much. But your fitness and grooming are good things.... But touching is still a bit inhibited. But I have a few strategies for it: You might try partner dancing. You're pretty much forced to get comfortable with being in a woman's space. If/when I know that she is OK …
/r/seduction04/11/15 09:42 AM
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This is not a question WE can answer, really. Because the answer comes from HER. It's not like we can give you a list of magic questions. What you do is start off however you start and then when she's talking in response, you actively listen with 100% of your brain. So no thinking about what you want to say next, while she's talking. Just focus on being aware of what she's saying. Then when she stops talking, you think about what she said, then answer based on what she just said. Ask a question,…
/r/seduction04/11/15 12:18 AM
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Also, if you're able to attend college dance classes, you'll get more bang for your buck if you sign up for a semester long dance class. You might pay more upfront, but if you factor in the number of times you take the class, plus access to the teacher for one on one questions during their Office hours, you really get more that way.
/r/seduction04/11/15 12:14 AM
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Plus, as a bonus to Lindy hoppers, Blues dancing grew up alongside it and can still be found at many Lindy exchange events and in house parties. Hell, a lot of cities how have Blues dancing scenes that turned into their own thing, independent of Lindy. Blues dancing can take come getting used to because it's a little intense, but it can be kind of awesome.
/r/seduction04/11/15 12:11 AM
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I have been watching a lot of videos from RSD and TNL and a lot of the coaches seem to be insistent that pickup is something that one should practice every day, not just on one particular day of the week or time of the year. Your sample is biased. This is an arbitrary mark to meet. Also, you SHOULD have a life outside of pick-up. The reasonable "PUAs" like David Wygant, James Marshall, Mark Manson, etc., all say that focusing on pick-up too much, can lead to an imbalanced life. However, one thin…
/r/seduction04/11/15 12:09 AM
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While it's possible that these girls simply didn't want to go on the date in the first place, I think it's likely that I ran afoul of the common pitfall of giving too much of a fuck and lowering my perceived value or whatever. Can you give an example of how your sales pitch goes when you start laying out the logistics? The problem is, I'm a very logistics-oriented person, and even in my normal group of friends I'm always the one planning this stuff. There's nothing wrong with suggesting activiti…
/r/seduction03/11/15 09:23 AM
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I have a hard time closing whether it's number, kiss, of F close. Every girl is going to be a case by case basis. I know you like routines as a tool but you can't plan for this many different kinds of girls ahead of time. It would take so many routines and a ton of trial and error to know which routines go with which kinds of girls. And then routines have a lifespan after which girls catch on...... It's giving me a headache just thinking of all this. Since it's on a case by case basis, you're go…
/r/seduction02/11/15 05:36 PM
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How do you guys handle it if other females at a party "know your stories" and tell them to girls you're interested in? For example "he uses this line to pick up chicks" "he made out with girl X yesterday" In general, I play things a little more low key. So I don't usually have to deal with girls spreading stories about me amongst themselves. Like if I'm gaming a girl in one pool, I wait a period of time...... long enough to be sure that there's no drama with that girl, before I move on to the ne…
/r/seduction02/11/15 04:31 PM
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how could I do that in this particular situation? I didn't have a problem handling the "he uses that line to pick up chicks"-thing. A lot of guys seem to think that it's some advantage for girls to be talking shit about a guy being a pick-up artist. Often, it really does create an uphill battle, though. I guess you could minimize this by NOT using lines or routines. If you are, anyway. But when she went behind my back and told Girl #2 that I made out with a friend of her it was pretty much game …
/r/seduction02/11/15 04:10 PM
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In any case, you've left out WAY too much information. You summed up every single interaction at the party with, "only talked to a couple girls and couldn't hold a conversation." That tells us nothing and leaves us without anything meaningful to tell you.
/r/seduction02/11/15 02:23 PM
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I know this is like asking how to get a PhD in engineering or something (too many steps and things to learn). It's really not that complicated. There are some misconceptions though. While it does help to be well-read, the name of the game is not simply talking the other person's ear off or subjecting them to your opinions on things. It's not about wowing people with what you know or bringing up a certain topic. It's not about you. It's about getting people to open up. To that end, all you have t…
/r/seduction02/11/15 01:56 PM
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To clarify, this only happens with girls in the 24-29 range. This is still weird. I never encountered that after I was over 21. I wouldn't say there's anything else that is the issue - usually before then, the interactions are going great as I said; kino is getting great responses, they're smiling, laughing, validating themselves, then I drop the age bomb and it's like flicking a switch. Often it's something along the lines of "Oh my god, you're so young!" or "Awwww, such a little baby!" with wh…
/r/seduction02/11/15 01:46 PM
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People keep saying that about routines around here, but for some of us, it doesn't come as natural. There are many things that come natural for me, but not for others. You make this out to be something almost magical. As if it takes talent to use your senses. Does it take natural talent to use your eyes to look around you, focus on the things you hear, pay attention to what you feel, etc.? This is stuff we all know how to do. If you go back and look at what I wrote above, it's actually actionabl…
/r/seduction02/11/15 01:39 PM
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I need a good daily routine to sort of give me more experience with talking to girls. Any suggestions? What good is it to get more "experience" talking to girls, if it's bad practice that's not helping you build good habit? A routine is a poor way to go. Things that will work: Push your focus outwards. Pay attention to everything around you. What people are saying, doing, etc. What sensations do you feel in your body? Make eye contact while in public. You don't need to lock on, but holding good …
/r/seduction02/11/15 11:05 AM
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So there's this guy that I actually don't like but I still flirted with him from day one (he barely even knew me). I'm almost 100% sure he's already put me in the 'slut' label, and the thing I was wondering was..is there a way to reverse this? Or once you're direct, there's no turning back? Going to echo what others are saying. You don't get the "slut" label for flirting. Think of how many girls are teases, who flirt. Flirting is nothing to worry about. There's nothing to reverse. Also, you have…
/r/seduction02/11/15 10:46 AM
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......have seen being funny is quite essential to connecting with people. Incorrect. Being fully present and aware of the moment, and communicating effectively, either verbally or non-verbally, is essential to connecting with people. Paying attention to her, calibrating to her, and getting her to open up about herself...... those things are essential to connecting. Seduction isn't a comedy club. You're not graded on applause and laughs. However, I have to admit I am truly not that funny of a per…
/r/seduction02/11/15 10:42 AM
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Went to a party this weekend with some friends. I got pretty drunk...... Stop right there...... Don't get "pretty drunk" and you'll eliminate a number of problems. But if you insist on getting that drunk, it's going to be difficult for you to fix anything you're doing wrong.
/r/seduction02/11/15 10:38 AM
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If your article was any thinner on substance, the link would probably be removed, to be honest. As it is, it's worth keeping up, if only for the conversation you've started. There are a couple things that don't fly, in this article. Here’s a question: Do you ever run out of things to say when you’re hanging out with your best friend? No, you don’t. So then, why do you run out of things to say when you’re hanging out with women? You aren’t hanging out with any women. That is why you don’t have an…
/r/seduction02/11/15 10:35 AM
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When should I go in for the kiss at the club? We literally CAN'T tell you this. No one can. You HAVE to pay attention to the girl as you escalate, in order to know this. ...... I was really drunk.. Definitely a horny drunk because After only 30 seconds or so I started kissing her on the neck and cheeks. and while she never let me progress to the lips, she still let me kiss her anywhere else.. Dude. STOP trying to game when you're drunk. It's almost certain that you're not welcome with these girl…
/r/seduction02/11/15 10:21 AM
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I'm curious because I made out with a random girl at a Halloween party and now I'm paranoid about it. I checked her mouth discreetly and I didn't see any visible cold sores or anything. You're looking for guarantees. There are none. Odds are low but you seem to want someone to tell you that it's 0 chance or near-zero. If we said that, we'd be lying. But off hand, it sounds like you're possibly over-thinking this.
/r/seduction01/11/15 03:16 PM
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There's no getting around it: there are going to be some limitations. You haven't mentioned what country you're in , but in the US, people over 18 have greater concerns than getting into events with their date. You could be potentially ruining someone's life if it comes out that they were involved with someone under 18. You should let them know your age before shit goes down.
/r/seduction01/11/15 03:13 PM
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If I let a girl know im interested in her early on in the interaction she may thinking im creepy or too direct. If i wait till later on in the interaction after we've been talking, she isnt receptive because now she considers me a "friend". What the right way to do this?? Just how are you "letting her know you're interested?" If you're TALKING to her, you're doing it wrong. Talking to her about that basically tells her, "I have no confidence to just make moves, nor am I paying attention to you w…
/r/seduction01/11/15 03:09 PM
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This post had to be removed because it is about getting "that one girl," whereas posts to Seddit are supposed to be more about broader concepts. Try posting to either /r/askseddit or wait for the Simple Questions thread here on Seddit.
/r/seduction01/11/15 03:05 PM
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My questions - does anyone else experience this? If so, what do you do to either a) avoid it from happening without lying about your age or b) respond to it when it comes up? What? Girls are literally giving you shit about your age? After someone is 21 or over, this isn't really an issue anymore. It's possible that there's something else that is actually the issue. I find it hard to believe that anyone who is grown up, would make a fuss about your age. If someone was, I'd say they aren't worth y…
/r/seduction01/11/15 03:01 PM
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I'm asking more specifically about the logistics. she won't go on anymore dates, I have no way to interact with her besides texting, so basically the relationship we're texting buddies which I'm ok with but at the same time I wouldn't mind not texting altogether Hmmm. If it's someone you get along with and wouldn't mind hanging with as friends, invite her to join you in a group outing of some kind. No reason not to. She'll either say yes or no.....
/r/seduction01/11/15 02:59 PM
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I met this girl over a month ago in a club and we hit it off really well, that night I never got a K-close but I got her number and decided to keep in touch. Hmmmm. Kind of lukewarm at this point. We made plans to meet 2 weeks ago and she ended up flaking like an hour before the date.......She told me yes and told me to meet her up at this club.... Dude. No. Flip this around. What if a guy flaked on a girl and then told her to meet him at the club. That already is showing that she's just not tha…
/r/seduction01/11/15 01:28 PM
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Am I overreacting here? No. So my question is did he do the cardinal sin to his "fellow" buddy in this game. He is a nice guy but I think it was more of him not knowing what he was doing and how shitty his actions came off of. He knew what he was doing. You could put him on notice that it was not cool the way he was putting you down and literally say that this is not how friends treat each other. Friendship should raise all the boats, not sink some. His reaction will tell you what category to pu…
/r/seduction01/11/15 01:21 PM
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How do I let go and just have fun at a party and talk to people I don't know? First, realize that the nature of this question is riddled with assumptions that hold you back. How do you let go? You're over-thinking this. I guess the answer is that you let go by forcing yourself to stop thinking that you can plan something that you literally JUST DO. There is no "right way" to "let go" or "have fun." You're not being graded for your every move. Right now you're thinking too much and that cuts you …
/r/seduction01/11/15 01:09 PM
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Girl and I are friends and had mutual attraction, but I may have waited too long to escalate, and when I did, she had already began to lose interest, and was lukewarm to my advances. Not content with the friend-zone, I'm attempting to distance my self (no chasing or hanging-out unless she initiates), and focus on me. Look, if you're in the friend-zone, realize that it matters not, whether YOU are content. It's not about you. It's about her preference. Seduction is a team sport and if she's not p…
/r/seduction01/11/15 01:01 PM
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.....I never have continued being friends with girls who were not interested that I was pursuing. How do I continue if she won't hang out with me? So you've done work on yourself about this or do you continue to discard connections with girls who might otherwise lead to someone else, just because you refuse to accept their lack of attraction? I don't really get that kind of attitude anymore. You're either pursuing a girl who's a worthwhile person besides the fact you want to sleep with her, or s…
/r/seduction01/11/15 12:58 PM
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Not starting a monogamous relationship, just a bit of a sexual one. I'm not a monogamous person, neither is he. Well, I wasn't really talking about monogamy or not. Having a purely sexual friendship isn't going to affect either of our abilities to be with other people physically. I was questioning the point of putting that much energy into sexting when there could be people right there to be "sexing." Literally, if you're sexting with someone, that is time that you can't spend on someone who cou…
/r/seduction01/11/15 12:50 PM
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Anyways, I mostly needed to vent somewhere, sorry if I wasted your time. NOT at all. I just wanted clarification. Yep, this wednesday. We hit it off really well. On the other hand, this really isn't that long ago. A bond made over less than a week, is really really not that big of a deal, compared to what you will be able to experience over longer periods of time. About her making all the moves... I was there with a group of friends, and she would tease me all the time (e.g. She waved at me to c…
/r/seduction31/10/15 12:32 PM
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Talking to a guy online, and are still in the friendly 'get to know you' stage. How did you meet him? How often do you get to see him in person? I am very attracted to him, but was unsure on how he felt so I would only be playfully flirty in texts and not go beyond that line. It's not important to "go beyond that line," over text. Text is not meant to replace in person reactions. ....I'm usually very good at these things, but feeling so nervous and awkward & doing it with someone I've had no fac…
/r/seduction31/10/15 03:19 AM
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This post had to be removed because it concerns one girl.... You might try posting to /r/askseddit or wait for the Simple Questions Thread here on Seddit.
/r/seduction31/10/15 03:15 AM
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Drunk now. I get it. But post more when you're NOT drunk. Because you're leaving WAY too much out here. If you're venting, that's fine. But we can't offer suggestions with so much information missing. met girl on wednesday, Like this Wednesday? Like less than a week in the past? attended the same halloween party. By chance or did you plan this together? She was the one making the moves.... What moves? What did she literally do? and after we had quite passionate kisses she backed off and left. Ba…
/r/seduction31/10/15 03:14 AM
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......I asked her to go on a date with me ( shouldn't have asked that so early) , she never responded , so I moved on . Good. Also, you might have made a mistake in how you asked, but asking to spend time with a girl early on, is FINE. Well yesterday I seen her and the conversation was great , Just like the first time we met. I'm thinking about texting her now . NO. Well, yes..... texting her is fine. But you seem to be confused here. She showed lack of interest to date you. And you read that we…
/r/seduction31/10/15 01:40 AM
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I came here a year ago 140lbs heavier, and depressed. Today, my life is really together. I'm in college, in the top fraternity, and all that jazz. Okay. So as the other guy on this thread mentioned, you've worked on a lot of things and accomplished a lot, but this doesn't equate to "inner game" improvement. At least not if your anxiety is still intact. But I might also have something encouraging to add as I continue here..... A lot of women started going after me nearly three months ago. I becam…
/r/seduction31/10/15 01:17 AM
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I was just using them as a reference that women do get some guidance in this area whereas guys typically don't get any. No worries. Women's magazines are just a trigger for me. :P I saw this cartoon that sums up the dating problem pretty well. A girl and guy, back to back, looking away from each other. The girl's saying, "Where's my Prince Charming?" and the guy's saying "Where's my insatiable whore?" Luckily it seems like more people are waking up as good material becomes more prevalent. There …
/r/seduction31/10/15 12:48 AM
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Better too much than not enough time no? Sure. But far better to just go through life in the moment, without even thinking or planning these things in any way. All of my best interactions have come when I wasn't planning or thinking about how much time I thought I had. AT ALL. I just make some comment or question, on the side. And my only "plan" is just to say the one thing that came to my mind. That's it. Sometimes people show they're excited to talk so I continue. Sometimes they don't. So I do…
/r/seduction31/10/15 12:46 AM
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Better have a large amount of time available You keep coming back to this idea of marking out some rule about time. I'm trying to tell you to throw that idea out the window. You have NO idea how much time you'll need. It could be 30 seconds if it doesn't go well. It could be an hour or more. You just have to get in there.
/r/seduction30/10/15 03:01 PM
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Also, we're told that we need to be "men" without being shown exactly how to do this. It's messed up, that's for sure. It doesn't help that things like Women's Liberation and the birth control pill, are still causing changes to the whole male-female dynamic. Girls get stuff like Glamour, Vogue, Teen, etc... to help them. I don't think there's a male equivalent for that stuff. Well, to be fair, I wouldn't consider Glamour, Vogue, etc., to be very healthy or helpful overall to women. "100 ways to …
/r/seduction30/10/15 12:42 PM
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agree. but 10 minutes sharp for instance is too short for a group approach so I can't do this during the break - which would be enough if she was alone. I just can't get myself to think in terms of what amount of time would be "good enough." There is no such thing. Or at least, you can't know what time will be enough until you get in there.
/r/seduction30/10/15 12:16 PM
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So you do not set a date just swap contact information (read that phone number should not be the target, it's the date). Like I said, there are no hard rules here. There is no "target" here, if you want to be picky about it. If there is a target here, it is to go into a conversation and see what the girl is like. IF you like her even after that, then you'd move on to the next thing, whatever that is. At first, that would be simply enjoying the conversation. Then maybe later you end up asking her…
/r/seduction29/10/15 12:51 PM
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Possibly, but when I read that comment I could not come up with anything to ask about her "meeting her friends". Perhaps you are making this too hard on yourself? This doesn't require anything special..... What would you have said? I guess it depends on the girl in front of me. Certain personalities will inspire different kinds of openings, etc. But off-hand: Do you get to see your friends often? How long have you known them? Are you very close them? Later on...... something like, How did you me…
/r/seduction29/10/15 12:18 PM
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If you have no idea why a mod would remove your comment, that would be an additional problem. And simply choosing to believe there was no reason, doesn't solve either problem.
/r/seduction29/10/15 12:12 PM
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Damn, so it was a lot easier in college..... Well, yes and no. There's a lot going on. So it's not like we're all capable of, or ready for, such things, when they're available. Don't beat yourself up over it.
/r/seduction29/10/15 12:08 PM
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i wrote this while i was still drunk haha. Gods, i dont even know how i wrote it! but yea, thinking about it now she prob was just using me. she did a damn good job of it! Don't forget that she could still be a good social contact......
/r/seduction29/10/15 12:06 PM
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It's not that the guy's don't care, they just don't know how to make the conversation flow on any given topic so they keep asking questions. I think our culture breeds men that are often confused about how to go about these things. It's a bit of a mess. I used to think it was Western culture but it's present in the East as well. Empathy, connection building..... often has to be re-learned after it's beaten out of guys around the time they're in middle school.
/r/seduction29/10/15 12:03 PM
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Sorry, I have another question: how do you set a date when leaving? You may not have an opening to do so. Whatever is possible, may be different in each case. All you can do is try to find out if there's a mutual connection. Encourage her to open up, etc. Then if you still think she's interesting, then suggest swapping contact information. (Never only get a number or give a number. It should always be a number exchange.) Do you just focus on the girl ignoring the rest? I have said this, but ther…
/r/seduction29/10/15 11:59 AM
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Just curious, what could you possibly ask about her meeting her friends for coffee? Because that doesn't sound interesting at all (it's something we all do) Two things: You appear to be downplaying the significance of getting her to open up about her friends, just because you think it sounds too ordinary. This stuff doesn't have to be "interesting" or "special." It's personal, and it might get her talking about herself and opening up. Example: I've open with something as ordinary as, "Do you guy…
/r/seduction28/10/15 04:05 PM
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I've heard all sorts of things about the game after college but I want to know how things really change in regards to women, hookups, dating, and sex. You just asked a rather broad question. Is it really that much harder to meet women and randomly hook up with them? No. The ones who say that are just failing to adapt to the different culture. When you're at college, there are so many young people looking to experiment, try new things, and get drunk..... all crammed into a relatively small area a…
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:56 AM
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And dear god, don't ride your bike to the bar...... Please tell me that no one did that. :P
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:31 AM
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I'm not going to exactly disagree, but simply point out that not all sororities are the same. There is a range in terms of what the culture is like at each one. Some have leadership that pressures all the members to fit into smaller boxes. Others are more open in terms of what their members can do without having to suffer shitty social sanctions from their "sisters." Sororities in different cities may also be different.
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:28 AM
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Backstory: .....she said she a "half-boyfriend" and told me that both of them could not cannot go 5 montths without sex so that's why she phrased it as a "half-boyfriend". This doesn't explain the "half" part very well. Being unable to go 5 months without sex doesn't have anything to do with commitment. we had a very friendly banter that was flirtaous. She's in the service industry, man. And she lives off of tips. Of course she's going to flirt. she told me she does not give her number out to "c…
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:23 AM
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Well, the first thing is to make sure that you don’t ask too many questions...... I'll agree that creating a feeling that the conversation is an interview, is bad. But here's the thing: it's not about the quantity of questions. You could ask a lot of questions, but what are you doing with the answers? That's the point. Girls like talking about themselves. Everyone does. What they don't like is when the guy doesn't seem to care about the answers because he keeps changing the subject by asking unr…
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:07 AM
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Yeah, in the short term, don't take girls to that restaurant. In the long term, think about what you might have done to get on that list. Think back on your dating history, honestly. If you can remedy the thing that got you on that list, it couldn't hurt. And on that note, did your roommate tell you what exactly this "Date List" says? And what did you do to get on it?
/r/seduction28/10/15 10:01 AM
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Beside from that, one thing I want to say is that it is not always so easy to interrupt them, for example when the music is loud If the music is loud, you're likely in a place like a club or loud bar where talking really isn't the way to go. When I was talking about speaking to groups, I was talking about in ordinary settings that are more amenable to talking. In such places, there's usually something to do like dancing. So you go do that and open girls through eye contact and body language. or …
/r/seduction28/10/15 09:31 AM
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.....it is not simply enough to just listen and say something when nobody wants to comment on a thing somebody just said. You're underestimating the power of this. If you actively listen and pay attention..... then approach and say something about the situation, you can instantly connect and relate to people, right off. I'm not simply talking about waiting for a lull, though lulls are good times to comment. Sometimes the situation brings with it a natural time to interrupt. Example: I was eating…
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:54 PM
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Shit so I gotta be conscious of two people now?! Too much work! I know you're joking, at least partly. But honestly, this is not so difficult. You make it seem like you have to pay attention to two people. Not so. AT all. The problem is, when you're trying to "be conscious" of yourself, I'm going to say that actually that might be a bad thing, if that means that you're in your head, just thinking about every little thing you're doing. And really, the most important thing is being in tune with th…
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:39 PM
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.....I keep moving too fast without intending to just because I got so used to it. I guess I have to keep myself in check from now on and be more conscious of it. I've had the same issue myself, which led to me adopting the above strategies...... You may wish to try them. Just remember, being conscious of yourself is all well and good, but you absolutely need to be conscious of the girl.
/r/seduction27/10/15 02:30 PM
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I had several experiences with the problem in the post aswell, often its already hard to stand nearby them, because they often sit in a circle..... I've never encountered people just locking everyone else out by sitting in a really tight circle. Usually there is room to get into the circle without it being obtrusive. And then there are usually people milling about in the kitchen who are easy to talk to. ....and talk about shit where you have no clue what you could say. It may feel that way, but …
/r/seduction27/10/15 02:27 PM
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....back and forth, hours between texts, having to subtly get them to get out for a date...all that shit. Its such a damn process. Does anyone else get sick of all this? You're leaving WAY too much information out. Who opened who? How did you meet her? What did you talk about? How did you decide when to number close her? And in general, you're describing a texting process that's also vague. Why are you "subtly" trying to get them out? Just ask her to hang out one on one. Why all the indirectness…
/r/seduction27/10/15 01:10 PM
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See, I hear all the time "Make women/people more comfortable around you" and I can't figure out how. Yeah, you don't "make" anyone feel anything. But you can facilitate them feeling comfortable by starting off slow and low intensity with your kino. That way you're not going to come on too strong or fast for anyone. I'm talking at the level of almost accidental touches. But the key is to pay attention to the girl. She'll be reacting to all that touching, even the small things. And that feedback w…
/r/seduction27/10/15 01:02 PM
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I actually feel pretty terrible after having it confirmed by someone so what do I do now to tone it down? Just stop completely and work back up to it? What this tells you is that you're not calibrating to the individual person. The speed that worked with one girl, won't work with every girl you're into. You have to pay attention. You don't have to stop. You have to pay attention to the verbal and non-verbal feedback you're getting in the moment as you run kino.
/r/seduction27/10/15 12:59 PM
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First off, question the mindset that it's on you to "keep her." She's not a thing. She's a person who makes her own decisions. Point is that a relationship is teamwork. Seduction is teamwork too. Nothing happens without the girl working with you. Secondly, communication is pretty key. Google: nonviolent conflict resolution for some good leads on things to keep in mind. It's an art to resolve problems without sacrificing who you are as a person, and without confusing the issue by triggering negat…
/r/seduction27/10/15 12:55 PM
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I've never had very good game...... Really? You kind of contradict yourself here. ....the two women I slept with either put more work into getting laid So you inspired a couple women into stepping outside their comfort zone, given that most girls don't venture to initiate like that. But by all means, pretend this isn't game. I've been told I'm rather fun to hold a conversation with.... Which is impossible for people to say if you literally lack any game. Because what is "game?" At its heart, all…
/r/seduction27/10/15 12:48 PM
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I know that some girls will like me because I have self-worth and I've been told I'm "good-looking" (not "sexy" per say but above average). Hmmm. What I am saying is not so much related to your self-worth. I am saying that girls out there right now are into the guy you are right now. What happens is that you shut it down by coming into the interaction weakly or assuming that they wouldn't be interested in you. Your mindset has some unnecessary assumptions built into it. Why do you think my minds…
/r/seduction25/10/15 02:48 AM
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Okay, so you want something serious, right? With that in mind, here are some suggestions. So I went to a party tonight..... First off, realize that a lot of people are not oriented towards the most serious mindset in this situation. It's often more about fun. ....and I met a couple girls and talked to em and held hands plus a little bit of light kissing. Couple things here: You are actually coming off a little too open in this case. Holding hands is often on the emotional side. GFs and BFs walk …
/r/seduction25/10/15 02:38 AM
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When someone is talking to me I'm very interactive and feel confident in myself but when the conversation ends I just can't seem to ask another question to keep the conversation going. Are there any tips to help me improve on this aspect of my life? Two things here. Active listening is your friend. When they are talking, your focus should be entirely on the words coming out of their mouth. You should not be planning what you want to say, because then you're pulling brain resources away from taki…
/r/seduction25/10/15 02:17 AM
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I understand women function more on emotions, and that it's easy for them to flake or change their mind about liking a guy. People function on emotions. You think you do so less because you're a guy? The whole marketing industry would have to change overnight if this were the case. But nope. Peruse any textbook on this subject, and nowhere does it say that emotional based marketing works only on women. Emotions affect the decisions of everyone, except for maybe sociopaths or Spock. ....I know th…
/r/seduction24/10/15 07:28 AM
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We can go more in-depth with this...... I just got out of a relationship of three years and I plan to be single for a while. Understandable. You may consider though, that "planning to be single," doesn't work out so well, sometimes. For a few reasons. You're newly single but still acclimated to acting like a guy who's in a relationship. Which is different than being a casual dater. You may be holding onto baggage from the last relationship. Which may lead you to subconsciously try to recreate th…
/r/seduction24/10/15 07:18 AM
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This thread comes up a few times a year. So how do I become friends with cool/chill girls (except telling them that I love them and they answering with "Let's just be friends) Think this through. You're not friendzoned purely by telling a girl that you love them. A guy who does that and gets LJBF'ed by the girl, was already in the friendzone before he opened his mouth. Why? Because of one or more of the following things: He didn't take action. He showed lack of confidence. He wasn't her type to …
/r/seduction23/10/15 06:51 PM
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I live in one of the objectively worst cities for dating in the country. Let's clarify a few things: Are we talking about a city or a town here? Can you tell us the name of it? Can you at least Google up the population statistics and share them here? What makes your city "one of the objectively worst cities for dating in the country?" May we assume "the country," is the US? Even the more successful guys in town have trouble finding girls. If you want help, you should stay on topic and lay out th…
/r/seduction23/10/15 06:31 PM
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What books or advice or sayings would you put in to help someone who desperately needs to boost their inner game Beyond the list that has been dropped already, I'd add, "There are no shortcuts." Read all you want. It's important because you ought to be sure your head's in the right place. But experience is going to be irreplaceable as a tool to truly learn and process lessons so that you can improve.
/r/seduction23/10/15 06:05 PM
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This is being removed because it concerns basic principles that are covered in the sidebar.
/r/seduction23/10/15 06:00 PM
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To add to what he's talking about, it's helpful to walk around and observe what is interesting or funny to you about what you see. Then share that with people when you open conversation with them. And you don't even need to think of it as trying to start a conversation. The easiest way to think of it is, as if you were just sharing a thought and you're prepared to move on. They may respond, then obviously you can see how far it goes.
/r/seduction23/10/15 05:55 PM
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Similar conversations, she mentioned that guy again, but his friends. She mentioned the guy again, AND his friends? Or mentioned him, but they are friends only? Not sure what you mean. The bar we have never been too so I was all chairs, quite hard to kino. Yep. That happens. That's when you have to find a way to sit closer. Just sit closer. So you can talk easier. ;) Later she went and touched my facial hair and said she likes it. Probably a sign that she wants you to escalate, in some way. She …
/r/seduction23/10/15 05:49 PM
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mes too close to trying to buy my way into the conversation, or like I'm justifying my reason for talking to her. And worse, it Thanks I'll keep that in mind! I guess it's a lot of improvisation anyway, so I can always compliment if that comes right in the conversation Sure. Though if you're going to throw a compliment in, try to be more specific than something like, "You're cute." Maybe how an item of clothing looks on her, her hair, something about her style..... Some detail, preferably a deta…
/r/seduction23/10/15 05:43 PM
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Here's the situation - I don't want a LTR with her because I only just started dating (6 months ago) and this is my first relationship (I'm 28). It would feel foolish to fall into something when I'm not sure. So, my thought was to keep seeing this girl while dating other women until something more serious came along. I get you. And it's hard to avoid this kind of feeling, that you might miss something if you settle down into your first relationship. Though I think you have been vague here. Do yo…
/r/seduction23/10/15 05:42 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. So what is your advice for getting into a LTR? Slowing it down, not being a challenge or mysterious? Vulnerability? One question: What do you want with the current girl? I thought that you didn't want an LTR with her anyway. That's what you've been telling her and that's what you've kind of been undermining with your methodology of turning yourself into a challenge and withholding yourself. If you want to get into an LTR, then.... Just interact with her as you might with…
/r/seduction22/10/15 11:05 PM
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I meant something like you would do alone "Hey I find you cute and wanted to say hi" (maybe not like that because you are in a group. Anyway, understand your point. Thanks you very much! I know there's a philosophy out there where the guy will walk up and "state his intentions." I guess I just skip that step and say hi. I try to come up with any additional content based on what I'm observing at that moment. I could tell a girl that I find her cute and it could have impact if I can stand behind t…
/r/seduction22/10/15 10:52 PM
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What's more, if you go in fast and hard, and looking to burn it down quickly, then you most definitely WON'T get the option to be boyfriended after. Not unless the girl is unstable. These articles contradict it: http://www.girlschase.com/content/telling-women-youre-not-boyfriend-material http://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-move-faster SO much in those articles is off-base that I don't have time to get into all of it. But I will note that I agree with the part where it says in…
/r/seduction22/10/15 03:35 PM
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You're right, we had sex.. and I treated her like a GF (cuddling, etc). I know what you mean. It doesn't matter what I say, it's what I did. In that regard, you're right, I've given her mixed signals. And if that continues, it'll always be her thinking, "He says this, but he does X, Y, & Z all the time." Then she'll choose whichever one suits the thing she wants more. Which is to believe that you, deep down inside, want the same thing she wants. Thing is, I'm not fulfilled with sex without the c…
/r/seduction22/10/15 01:13 PM
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This all makes a lot of sense. So how do I proceed from here with this girl? Probably nowhere. You already shifted her into another direction. And once that emotional bridge is crossed for her, it's unlikely that there's anything to do. You could ask her to hang out, but to be honest, I'd suggest being prepared to move on to the next. Just text a girl next time. Especially if you made out with her and got her number. Especially if you like her. There's no reason not to text in that situation.. L…
/r/seduction22/10/15 01:02 PM
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"he's not fit, but there's sexual chemistry. I'll save the fitties for my boyfriend category!" You're leaving something out here. She says you're out of shape, implies that you're considered fling material, and claims to want a fit guy for her BF later. Something happened between then and now for her to change. I was hurt at first, but it's yet more confirmation of how women will quickly sleep with guys if they stay out of the BF zone, and how, after you've slept with a women, if you are BF mate…
/r/seduction22/10/15 12:56 PM
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Thanks! Approach the group rather than the target. That sounds right. Well, kind of. It's not like you have to disregard the girl. You just have to acknowledge that there's a group there. And you should interact with them instead of shouldering past them to sit with a girl and ignore them. That's a dick move, if you think about it. They're going to be like, "Who the hell is this guy?" Does that change according to the number of people in the group? Not really. But if the group is large enough, i…
/r/seduction22/10/15 12:36 PM
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About a month ago I started the self-improvement after reading a lot of the material on this sub and deciding whether or not I wanted to go with it (academics and all that have kept me busy). Look, it's up to you if you want to make yourself better. You're already doing part of it by working hard on your academics. Don't pretend like hard work isn't good. You are building a life right now and you have probably achieved things that you can and should be proud of. But now you want more, and that's…
/r/seduction22/10/15 12:29 PM
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You shouldn't be looking for a one-size-fits-all solution. Because things happen that are outside of the box, ALL the time. But as Linistmrx says, those three things kind of go together. But I'm going to get picky about the word choice. You don't need to "ignore" the girl you're interested in, but if she's in a group, you need to approach the group, basically. Or else you'll be ejected by them. So you need to be observant as to what's going on in order to have meaningful things to say when you s…
/r/seduction22/10/15 12:15 PM
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I made out with a girl at a party I threw last Friday. I got to know her and things went well. I didn't initiate text with her, so 2 days later she said she wanted to go on a double date soon. I said maybe and that we'd figure it out. I didn't initiate text after the party at all I should note. Couple things: "Things went well." What exactly do you mean? It doesn't help to be vague or use euphemisms. Next time, just say upfront how far you went or what developments occurred. Don't get poetic and…
/r/seduction22/10/15 12:03 PM
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Been talking to a younger chick lately, we chilled the night I got her number and drove around/talked. Felt some sexual tension, she had told me she would make it worth it if I came and picked her up, but by the time I was feeling comfortable enough to make a move she said she had class in like 6 hours and needed to get back home. How long did it take for you to "feel comfortable?" Sounds like you found excuses not to do anything. 6 hours wasn't long enough for you to do something? I understand …
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:19 PM
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I heard plowing is the best thing you can do. I tried looking up routines but the seem to be a bit intricate for a loud club game environment, if I tried them she would say 'what??' a lot. Right. Because clubs aren't for talking. They're for dancing, listening to loud music, and non-verbal game. You might find yourself in a verbal conversation with a stranger at a club, but more likely, you're going to have better luck opening non-verbally with dancing, eye contact, touch, and body language. Any…
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:13 PM
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Hey, so this girl she went out with this guy last night. I'm not sure what is going on, but I'm not sure what this guys intentions are? He is camp, so a guy who behaves in a feminine way. I think he is playing the being friends and hoping she likes him way. Doesn't matter what his intentions are. If the girl is interested in you, there won't be any real competition from other guys. I saw a video of them singing, and they seem sat very close. However I don't think he pulled as they put another vi…
/r/seduction21/10/15 04:02 PM
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Also just some general seduction advice, I think I am struggling to create a sexual frame and also state my intentions. First off, you don't need to state your intentions. Not as far as wanting to sleep with a girl. You show your intentions with kino. Same with creating a "sexual" tone or frame. You have to find out how to be comfortable being in close to a girl, if you aren't already. I have done a search but haven't found anything good, do you know any good links? You might look for a video by…
/r/seduction21/10/15 03:53 PM
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I just want to seduce her, then kiss her. Then see where we go depending how much chemistry we have. I get what you're saying, but if you get further than this without being honest about what you'd want (something serious or something casual), then things can easily get complicated. I mean, there's a guy here who did everything short of having sex with the girl and he wasn't honest with where he was and what he wanted..... he ended up burning things down so badly that he never got to close the d…
/r/seduction20/10/15 04:12 PM
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What's different between the approach to a relationship and the approach to a fling? I'd say my current approach targets FWBs but it's not perfect; hence the ONS. I currently aim for confidentiality, rapid escalation and quick next's. Well regarding FWBs..... they can be hard to find. They often entail the following: A certain amount of trust, often built up over time. Mutual attraction, but either circumstances kept the two people in question from getting at each other, or the level of attracti…
/r/seduction20/10/15 12:19 PM
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I guess I cant do anything about the other guy, but she said she wants to see me again during this week. Nope. Probably not. Just be aware that this might require patience on your part, if she needs to process this guy more to move on from him. Just don't fall into the trap of trying to fix it; just listening for a time and finding a way to gracefully transition after she has said her piece about him.... is one way you could go. But overall, if she brings that guy up again, it's not going to be …
/r/seduction20/10/15 12:03 PM
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I laughed.
/r/seduction19/10/15 06:46 PM
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Anyway seddit what should I do? Any tips? As others have said, move on. "Seduction" is a team sport. If she's not playing with you, nothing is going to happen no matter how good your "game" is. That girl isn't giving you anything to work with, so you have no recourse here except moving on.
/r/seduction19/10/15 06:43 PM
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Anyway, I now get an F-Close every 3-4 nights out (sometimes faster, sometimes slower) but I can't transition further (Relationship or FWB). So I've decided to ask the community for help who brought me this far. Does anyone have any good material, advice or links on this? You've said little of your actual M.O. / approach to all this. But I can say that the approach to a relationship, is going to be different from a fling. And both of those are different from FWBs. If you want something solid, yo…
/r/seduction19/10/15 06:40 PM
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So the date was going well, we were both touching, sitting very close like a couple. She was asking many questions about me, and if I went queit she would start the convo again. Lots of eye contact, and smiles from her. When I tease her, and she can't think of a comeback she just hits me. Sounds good. It's also good that you are present enough that you were aware of these things. Anyway just before I tried to kiss her she, she started talking about another guy she liked a while ago, and said tha…
/r/seduction19/10/15 06:32 PM
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Clue: It's not because she's not attracted enough to you. It's not because she isn't interested in you. And it's not because she's a prude who doesn't want sex either. I'd agree with this. And it's so common for guys to get discouraged too early. What these girls are telling you is that they don't feel SAFE enough with you to just let go. But I'd add to this. This can be one reason, but another one is that many girls need deniability. They may want to be sexually active, but because of the judge…
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:56 PM
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Sure I can :) sorry for not being 100% clear, my english could use some improvement Not at all...... Your English is fine. I meant that living in an insecure spot like her for years (it lasted 4 years) can wear you down emotionally, so when she first saw some of my bad qualities with time, she focused on that for a breathe of fresh air so instead of trying to improve her inner game, she brought me down in her head and that made her feel a little more secure. Sure. People like her, sometimes end …
/r/seduction16/10/15 12:04 PM
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I am almost sure you are right on this one, but this is an interesting thing and I am curious just because there is so much to learn from it. She kept saying that she thinks I'm too good for her and that I could do so much better than her. ( I never said or made her feel anything remotely close to this) You didn't need to say or do anything to make her feel that way. She has what we call in /r/seduction, shitty inner game. Poor confidence, etc. That's why nothing was ever good enough to reassure…
/r/seduction16/10/15 09:27 AM
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I have been seeing this girl for a year (fuck buddies/dating/friends with benefits), I really liked her and things were going great. First off, what did you want here? If you wanted something serious, then you probably shouldn't have taken a detour into FWB/fuck buddies. That is the hallmark of a disposable relationship. Secondly, if you wanted more, how did you end up FWBs? She moved to Scotland, but we still kept in touch. She just came back from Scotland and told me, that she actually met a g…
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:06 PM
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(i) Traditional pickup places like clubs or college campuses are full of 18-20 year olds so I feel and look old and out of place Most cities with a decent population, have clubs with different demographics. Don't choose to go to the ones that are dominated with 18-20 year olds unless that's what you're into. The issue is probably that you never really liked clubs to begin with. You feel and look old and out of place...... this is at least partly because you assume it to be so. You shouldn't be g…
/r/seduction15/10/15 04:57 PM
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But in any case, how are you going to use all this information, such as the posts of Dragoeth? Simply knowing the origins of where we are today...... how can this help you? I'd propose that the overall message for you here is to be aware of the pressures on girls...... the whole slut-shaming thing is something that girls do to each other far more than guys do it to girls. And girls even do it to themselves, individually. So even though girls want sex as much as guys, for most girls if you come a…
/r/seduction15/10/15 04:46 PM
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I have observed girls like that and dated at least one and you know the irony? All that fear of losing their BF..... I have come to believe that it's due to the fact that some part of them realizes that it's not going to work out. They have an awareness of that and it makes them constantly on edge. What do you mean exactly by this? She realized early on that i am not the guy for her, or that her jealousy is not sustainable? I mean, when a girl is constantly overpowered by jealousy, it's sometime…
/r/seduction15/10/15 04:25 PM
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I was just trying to say I'm open minded......I'm definitely attracted to the majority of girls here, in this student town......in all honesty my ultimate goal is to just experience some physical intimacy with women. Then own it. There's nothing wrong with simply wanting this. But if you really want this, make sure that you're not thinking about "relationships," in your head. And you definitely don't need to talk with your friends as if you want a relationship. When you don't. For some people pe…
/r/seduction13/10/15 09:08 AM
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I'm sure there will be. If not this girl, then another. ;)
/r/seduction12/10/15 11:36 PM
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Glad if I helped! And of course, the feeling of loss doesn't just go away. It sucks. But it takes time to remember what it is to be an individual person after being part of a unit. When we broke it up she said she want to be single for a while, have freedom, flirt etc. and this is why we broke up the last time in the first place. I tought that she will start to miss me in the no-contact week, but she just made out with that guy, and then SHE was angry with me, for asking about the 'why'. The rea…
/r/seduction12/10/15 11:30 PM
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Dude. All these tricks...... garbage, really. Maybe they work for a few people. But you don't want a few people, do you? You want something that works on everyone? Or at least this girl you're kissing now? Here's the only thing that matters: Pay attention to the girl and she'll show you the way. Stop worrying about what the "right thing to do" is. There is no such thing. You just go in, start off slow and low intensity with your lips. Soft. Almost like you're numb after the dentist. And then you…
/r/seduction12/10/15 03:18 PM
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Hey everyone, this is my first time posting. I've been really worried about something for a while now and I just need to get insight from older or more experienced guys. I'm 20 now but still a virgin, It's almost certain that the issue is really more of a confidence issue, than experience. I'm in my second year at a University with a big club scene and tonnes of good looking people, especially girls, I could literally fall for 8/10 girls I pass in the street here. Despite being so open and havin…
/r/seduction12/10/15 03:12 PM
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Actually, I wasn't advocating "practicing" or the whole Just Do It thing. (Leaving your comfort zone, etc.) Building your life up is more important. Your life is not about girls. Not in total. If you don't have a life that you can be proud of, then the girls will not last. Period.
/r/seduction12/10/15 02:52 PM
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Obviously, you owe it to yourself to take the lessons you've learned now and apply them to all the things you used to think about the past. You used to glorify it. But now you know that the past is undeserving of such glorification. Let's go down the list. When I met her she had a boyfriend, but wasn't the best relationship. Took me a whole summer to get her, but when we finally became a couple, she said she cannot believe that i chose her over other girls, and she basically trembled when i touc…
/r/seduction12/10/15 02:42 PM
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When he talks to girls he is funny. I am a social person, but I cant pull a girl, its hard........I know the underlying message in the video is not to give a fuck..... Few things about this: It's not about him being "funny." It's confidence. Pulling. Comes from confidence. Sooner or later you just believe that you can and should make a move. Sometimes in the early going, it can be just a leap of faith and eventually it becomes something you do from knowledge and experience. But confidence gives …
/r/seduction12/10/15 02:17 PM
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This is so weird; I want to be more attractive to girls around my age. I look young for my age, aside from my balding head, but I have a hunch that girls like that are into me just because of the 'older guy' factor. Can anyone relate? This is almost certainly a form of observational bias. I mean, have you SEEN all the posts here from older guys fussing over how they don't think anyone will want to date them after they get "too old?" Also, you're not old enough to have the "older guy" factor yet.…
/r/seduction12/10/15 01:48 PM
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I never said they were inauthentic. I'm sure they're all authentic, but it is a shtick. A marketing shtick to make themselves more palatable than simply calling themselves PUAs. Those guys went through a natural process of development and realized that basing your life on sleeping with girls doesn't actually lead to a full and satisfying life. That's not marketing. That's self-discovery. Just because their business model changed, does not mean that it's a ploy to make money. It reflects their ow…
/r/seduction11/10/15 04:01 PM
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He might be promoting his new book, but if you've been coming to Seddit long, you would recognize that Strauss is saying that he went through the SAME crash and burn that guys here post about at least a few times a month. You know, the posts where guys say they feel like the sex is empty, they feel like crap the morning after, and/or they can't trust people anymore? That's what happens when you "game" just to have sex, without any thought of the person you're getting, or thought of what you're l…
/r/seduction11/10/15 03:35 PM
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Damn. Someone should YouTube that shit. :P Wow.
/r/seduction08/10/15 11:30 AM
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Women in LA know about mystery game, have so for multiple years now. I have seen people getting called out for it ruthlessly, and shamed away. It's transparent. lol. It really is. :P That's kind of hilarious. I didn't know that people were getting called out for it.
/r/seduction08/10/15 11:23 AM
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My other friend on the other hand had a full out conversation with her using the same jokes he got from me and showing her funny videos I showed him without even telling them that was the things I found and she laughed at mostly all of them. First off, simply making the girl laugh isn't the same as making/discovering a connection. Secondly, your friend is pulling some foul shit there. At some point, you've got to stand up for yourself. If you're the one who gave him the jokes, don't let him drop…
/r/seduction08/10/15 11:21 AM
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......this is more about approaching a woman whom you’re unsure of their relationship status.....Treat them all like they’re single, because it’s their job to let you know if they’re in a relationship. I agree with this. I don't know how many times I've seen guys pass up their chance because they assumed that some girl's gay friend was a BF. I've actually started chatting girls up thinking that they weren't single, only to find out that they were, and they were interested. This is the mentality …
/r/seduction08/10/15 11:12 AM
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As much as I agree with you, attractive women will have 4+ guys orbiting them at anyone time to try to move out of the friendzone. Hmmmm. While attractive women will often have guys orbiting when they become single..... We all know that the friendzone isn't really a place you escape. Such guys might be used as flings but she wasn't inspired to drop her last BF for them before, then she wouldn't be boyfriending ANY of them. In fact, all that happens when that throng of orbiters descends on the ne…
/r/seduction08/10/15 10:58 AM
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A lot of your points are well articulated. LA is just.... demoralizing. I've heard about LA. Some PUAs actually talked about how it's a different animal in some ways. Like, I guess that some of the game established by Mystery was a response to the bullshit in LA. That's why he went manipulative, aloof, etc..... and had women coming after him. (Not that his methods necessarily work for long, but if you're only after sex it doesn't matter. And it did "kind of" break through the bullshit. But then …
/r/seduction08/10/15 10:44 AM
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To be truly honest, I only want sex from girls and the few hours of playful post-sex interaction after. I don't need anything else. ........ Problem solved. In fact, I don't see a problem here. Some of my friends suggest this is an unhealthy view towards women and that I will never have a long, fulfilling relationship. I concede this point, Do you really concede this point? You seem to have satisfaction with your approach and focus. It's only your friends who think it's unhealthy. They're projec…
/r/seduction08/10/15 10:34 AM
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Go elsewhere? Sure within your area. Just move cities because the social standards here are enforced to uphold extreme female entitlement? Nope. I wouldn't say that's necessary. That isn't a fix. I'd agree. Moving cities would be ridiculous. And I don't mean clubs, bars, etc (which is where you meet anyone at all if you actually have a real job btw. Dude. You're talking about trying to game in LA at the places where people are going to arguably be at their most difficult. In an environment where…
/r/seduction07/10/15 11:47 PM
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What kind of things would you recommend for a date? I feel like it's weird to tell them to just come to my dorm and chill. Well I guess it depends on your dorm. Asking them to your dorm room would be a little much to start, probably. But if your dorm has good amenities, that might not be a terrible option. It depends. But just chilling..... you can probably suggest a better course of action. I would agree. I was thinking next time I see them just saying we should grab something to eat sometime a…
/r/seduction07/10/15 11:29 PM
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Doing what exactly, for how long? Seduction. 7-8 months. And....... by "seduction," what do you mean? There are different philosophies in "seduction." I'm basically wondering what kind of theories you're working with. Which PUAs are you modeling yourself after, etc.? Alright, the attraction usually fixes itself when we get naked but i see your point. Definitely. Nakedness can change one's mind. :P I guess some signs that you might want to change something up, would be: If you find any disgust fo…
/r/seduction07/10/15 11:23 PM
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Thank you for the input, really. You seem to hit everything on the nail. I honestly didn't think she "had" to be nice or go out of her way to talk. Normally if they aren't interested, I would get ignored. She was consistently talking to us. But you're probably right on that one also. Girls who work in such industries, are basically paid to be nice. It's bad for business if they aren't. They wouldn't be able to hold down the job if they were alienating customers. I've walked into much the same si…
/r/seduction07/10/15 11:16 PM
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This is being removed because it's about getting "that one girl." Those kinds of posts are for the simple questions thread or AskSeddit.
/r/seduction07/10/15 02:20 PM
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Okay, just a heads up, I like to write and explain myself with alot of detail. I really can't help it, but I really need some help at the moment because this is consuming my mind and there's alot to explain here. While this is helpful in its own way, your whole M.O. here is kind of part of the problem. Too much thought. Not enough action. I'll lay it out as I go..... Not that this matters much but I'm 24 (m) only 120lbs and 5'6" so i'm pretty skinny, haven't been working out so I dont have much …
/r/seduction07/10/15 02:19 PM
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I have no idea. Girl in period and I talk a lot. Every day, practically the entire period because of the type of class and we joke around and laugh. I've noticed that all of our interactions, except maybe a couple from the last week or so, I would have with any of my male friends. Any telltale signs? You're trying to figure out before taking action. That's not really how this works. You get in there and start making moves and stuff gets sorted out. The difference between friendly and flirty is w…
/r/seduction07/10/15 01:05 PM
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.....but my approach to women so far has kind of been predicated on being somewhat aloof and unresponsive to any semblance of rejection: basically not giving a shit. These are two different things. Being aloof and unresponsive is being indirect. Playing games, in a way. It's different from actually not giving a shit, which does not require being aloof and unresponsive. For these girls- who again, for whatever reason, seem at the least mildly interested- would it be disadvantageous to ask them on…
/r/seduction07/10/15 12:59 PM
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Been doing this for a while now Doing what exactly, for how long? Many of the girls i've "picked up" lately becomes a mirror of me. It's like i'm shaping them. The problem is tho that they all try to impress me with guy stuff, like how strong they are, how many guys they beat up, how much of a badass they are, how little they care and shit like that. They become like guys, and i instantly loose attraction. Sex is great tho but that's the only place they are girls. Couple of problems here. If you…
/r/seduction07/10/15 12:51 PM
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Looks are incredibly important in certain areas. Does it matter whether you take care of yourself? Sure. Grooming. Hygiene. Fitness. These things matter. Style can matter too. But beyond grooming and hygiene, much of what's left is a matter of preference. (Hell, I've seen overweight dudes who cleaned up because of good inner game.) How do looks matter? Preference. Everyone has their own preference. And there is no golden standard across every woman, anymore than there is across every man. You ca…
/r/seduction07/10/15 10:42 AM
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Another point that i made was that most guys do have their head straight. Not EVEN close. When I was in college, there were some guys with confidence but at any given time, there were always guys who didn't have their heads on straight. Even those guys with confidence, often took a fall and got off-balance for periods of time. So you're really over-inflating the guys around you. We define mental health as something that is in line with the majority of a population, and poor mental health as some…
/r/seduction07/10/15 10:26 AM
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actually you can wear boots with shoe inserts to make yourself 3-4 inches taller. I actually do it routinely and have to weigh its options before I leave, as it hurts my walk and knees slightly And again I say, it doesn't matter. There will always be girls who like guys of different heights. The only thing you do with inserts, is basically lie/be deceptive about your actual appearance. Which is going to reflect poorly on your confidence. The reason most guys in any given bar have social skills i…
/r/seduction07/10/15 10:19 AM
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I guess I am highlighting the book by W Anton where he basically says that grooming isn't even important. This is ridiculous. Of course taking care of hygiene is important. Height isn't important. ect ect. This is not important to worry about though. Some girls will not go for guys of a certain height but that's nothing worth worrying about unless you have the magic power of changing your height. However there will always be girls who are into short guys. So height doesn't mean that no girls wil…
/r/seduction28/09/15 05:25 AM
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I don't understand this. Guys even go so far as to make up evolutionary reasons to justify this absurd idea. Also why do men need to believe this nonsense, yet we can accurately admit that women are very dependent on their looks. Nonsense? Huh. Seems that you're actively choosing to see evidence for the thing you want to believe. Also, you're framing this incorrectly. People don't say that it's all about behavior. It's about mindset and actions (behavior). I have seen so many attractive guys sho…
/r/seduction28/09/15 05:16 AM
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My initial reply in this part of the thread was harsher in word choice than I intended.... so I hope I didn't give the wrong impression. When I say game I mean inner game here. I was talking about all game, inner and outer. People to seduction may think to start online before trying actual approaches, and my fear is that tools like Tinder may dissuade them from it. Well, the issue is how to approach Tinder in the first place. It should be considered a secondary thing to supplement real world eff…
/r/seduction28/09/15 05:01 AM
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.....it may be toxic for some folks' inner-game to get bad results from Tinder. I guess my point is that the Tinder is not responsible for bad inner-game. It's the mindset people bring into Tinder.
/r/seduction28/09/15 04:31 AM
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Removed because there's not quite enough here that's instructive and it's problematic that your post seems to advocate making moves on women who are drunk and not able to make decisions responsibly.
/r/seduction28/09/15 03:52 AM
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......I used a “technique” (it might be all in my head e.g. she’s already interested in me right from the start so it doesn’t really matter if she’s drunk or not) .........Basically, you have a nice conversation with the girl,,,,,, Connecting is not merely a "technique." It IS game. Then when she gets drunk she remembers the nice conversation and bounding you had, so when you really put the moves on her..... What is NOT game....... what is a distraction from game, is making moves on someone who …
/r/seduction28/09/15 03:17 AM
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You can say that a little, but spending a while days swipes with 0 reciprocation can smash anybody's game. Only if you let it. Why the hell should you put so much importance on responses from Tinder, anyway? How does swiping on Tinder = game? It doesn't. Nothing about girls failing to answer/reciprocate on Tinder says a thing about your "game."
/r/seduction28/09/15 03:07 AM
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She gets probably around 30 matches a day..... Look, Tinder is a microcosm of real life. This is just straight up dating culture that girls get approached more than guys. and each guy immediately begins spitting game at her, Right. You're seeing desperation there. Not game. A bunch of guys trying too hard to stand out from the crowd. I see a lot of familiar techniques in those messages. My point is, unless you are swole as shit and you're game is on level 1000, Tinder girls are going to forget y…
/r/seduction28/09/15 03:06 AM
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That guy has kind of been trolling people over the last few hours, actually. Possibly unintentionally, but still trolling.
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:56 AM
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I just want to preface this with my own situation. I'm 29 and having a little difficulty with the idea of turning 30 while single. I'm only recently processing this idea after a recent breakup. No doubt about it, that barrier takes processing. I am fortunate enough to have had good luck with women before receiving any PUA advice. In fact I'm quite new to PUA. Since the break up, my ability to pick up women has skyrocketed which is nice. But like I said, I did pretty well before that and so have …
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:51 AM
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hi yesterday, i was at a party i was quite happy (if you know what i mean) I'll assume that you mean you were drunk. Why so complicated? :P Secondly, are you asking about parties or clubs? Because those are different situations. Clubs are usually too loud to approach verbally. So you have to focus on non-verbal means of communication: dancing and eye contact. You would have to focus on having fun. Dancing and being involved in the general fun of a club. While you're dancing, scan the room and ma…
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:36 AM
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That guy was trolling you.
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:28 AM
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It kind of doesn't matter. Because you have to go through shit to really learn. You can logically "know" shit but then that's completely different from living out the answers. I wish I had known that I need to be on a path to master myself first. (Note that I don't say "master myself," I say "be on a path to master myself". Important distinction because it's a journey, not a destination.) That wouldn't have led to any mastery, though. I wish I had known not to look gift horses in the mouth when …
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:28 AM
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What exactly do you mean by that? Are you implying that every person has a fixed determistic fate? Nope. It was a semantic misunderstanding because I left one word ("the") in my reply. I've changed my post to better reflect my stance.
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:21 AM
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I disagree with this. I think she could have been a one. I don't think there is one single person out there who we are meant to be with. I think there is a subset of people who are our ones. You know I actually agree with this. And just for semantic's sake, I'm going to go ahead and EDIT that fact into my post. But my point is that the situation between he and that girl didn't work out for a reason. He clearly wasn't ready. If we lived in a world where we could go back and change our past decisi…
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:14 AM
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We don't live in the same city. Well, then this is probably the end of the questions. Not being in the same city is pretty much going to kill or make it difficult to get beyond casual interactions. How do you expect to build anything with someone you can't easily be around? Or maybe it's not that bad, how long does it take to get to the other city? It's weird because we've been sexual with each other when we have met (twice). Sexual how? This really is the kind of thing that you should have ment…
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:07 AM
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Holy shit man...... This is almost totally a crisis of perspective. Which is simultaneously the easiest and most difficult kind of situation to resolve. The most difficult because you are the one who is fighting to keep yourself in a prison of your own devising. The easiest because once you get tired of being in prison, you'll be on the way out and no one can stop you. I have been single all of my life. You don't meet someone as unlucky or as failed as me often. Let's go down the list of these s…
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:58 AM
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Oh and she was actually the one who asked me if i could keep my cool at work (of course) , and when it came up about telling people she said something to the effect "totally, this thing here is just ours " so we're both on the same page as far as work. We're both very friendly to each other and we know each others life plans so we know this is something that cant become romantic, which is ok with me Don't listen these fear mongers talking about "not shitting where you eat." The real rule is, "do…
/r/seduction26/09/15 02:49 PM
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TIFU by realizing I'm in love with my best friend - at her wedding You didn't realize this at her wedding. You knew early on, but talked yourself out of acting, EVEN when she made moves on you. ....I just thought hell, she'll never like someone like me. .....never once reciprocating her drunk advances. I always figured she only wanted me while drunk ya know? (Plus she had a bad habit of being an absolute heart breaker) Excuses. Her husband is a fantastic guy, and he'll make her so happy. But I f…
/r/seduction26/09/15 02:09 PM
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Now, over the past few months I've talking to this girl on kik, let's call her Rosie. Rosie and I have been getting along very well and I consider her one of my closest friends. So you're friend-zoned....... Going months without making a move pretty much kills it, most of the time. I'm not seeing anything here that contradicts this. Now, the other day kind of confused me.. I was talking to her about dating and she brought up the fact randomly out of the blue that "she doesn't have a type" but th…
/r/seduction26/09/15 01:39 PM
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For example the other month I was talking to this girl at a bar and one of the first things she said was "Why don't you buy me a drink?" I suddenly realized how much of a turn off it was for her to so quickly expect me to essentially give her my money just because "that's what gentlemen do". I would suggest to you that it might also be a turn off that this girl was all about what you could do for her, assuming that all she has to do is just show up. I've found it to be a big turn off when girls …
/r/seduction26/09/15 01:26 PM
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What is the difference actually? First off, why are you preoccupied with this supposed distinction? Even if you come up with some answer, how would it help you? Secondly, those things ARE synonyms. You're trying to find a difference between two things that are the same thing.
/r/seduction16/09/15 05:34 AM
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Hi, you say you can get a read on how things would initially go with her - about how a girl looks away. Can you give some examples on what you mean? Thanks Unfortunately, this is one thing where you just know it when you see it. You HAVE to get out there and just start gathering data. You go and scan a room like I mentioned. Take note of how she looks away. Then you approach regardless to see what's up. THEN you will see how she responds and possibly you'll know what her look meant. Take note of…
/r/seduction16/09/15 05:06 AM
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Thanks man! Your advice resonates with me well, I found the best nights I've had in clubs was when I was enjoying the music and dancing. :) That being said, I would like advice specifically to make my voice clearer and louder so that others can hear me in loud environments. Having to repeat myself is very frustrating. Just take a look at what I said again. You shouldn't be trying to make yourself heard in such environments. You are asking "How do I outcompete the noisiness of such places?" Which…
/r/seduction16/09/15 05:04 AM
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I want to know tips that actually work. Just be careful. There are no magic tricks here. Any suggestions we give you here will not fly well depending on your confidence level. And something else to be aware of, do you actually like the activities of clubs? Dancing? Listening to music? Or do you only go there because "hot girls" go there? If you're only going there for the girls, don't like the actual activities there, AND are new to this, then you might consider finding venues that feature activ…
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:57 PM
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My wife and I were only married for a year, but we were together since high school. Because we were together for so long, I don't have any real dating experience. Look, the real threat here is that you've come to define yourself in terms of being with this other person. If you got used to thinking of yourself as ShameOnTheFats + your ex, rather than just you, then you'll have to overcome this idea and come to find yourself as a person. I've never picked girls up from the bar, or hit on any women…
/r/seduction13/08/15 06:47 PM
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An example that comes up a lot is my long term goals. We'll be talking, and somehow school comes up, and the cliche question of ' what do you want to pursue?'. I want to get a phd in neuroscience and dual major in political science , and I tell them this. Well, first off, you're not saying much to them in just putting this out there....... You might give them something more to work with and actually tell them how you mean to apply this after graduation. You surely have enough understanding of yo…
/r/seduction13/08/15 06:15 PM
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Yes, I speak about girls I just met. I'm not trying to push a lot of kino, but I'm trying to do it gently and slowly, to see if it goes right, and I get at least fine reaction from the girl out of it. In general, you don't need to push kino in the first meeting. Maybe sometimes you'll have an opening that makes sense. Like a gentle arm jab or handshake or something. But kino is not really necessary in the first meeting. Unless you're in a club. Then it's fine. ;) If I feel like no, so I stop for…
/r/seduction13/08/15 06:00 PM
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I was watching a video (can't remember the name) but the guys in it had the idea that there were two types of girl/love. The first was the "pure" form of love where guys can be playful/nice and then get the girl and the second is where the guy gets the girl to chase validation (I think this is called negging here(?)(like when you say the dress is nice, but too red etc.)). This is a false dichotomy and an overall poor definition. "Negging" IS a form of playfulness. It's just laced with backhands …
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:50 PM
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Hey, I noticed lately a problem I have. I have no problem in talking to girls in general, yet things never get forward, I can't seem to do it. Even when I try a little more kino and stuff, things don't go as plan. Can you be more specific? You're leaving too much information out. Are you talking about girls you have just met? Are you trying to push a lot of "kino" on girls you just met? That's a good way to shoot yourself down. And what exactly do you mean by "things don't go as plan?" I think I…
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:37 PM
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i know you have to put in sexual innuendo and stuff but not sure how..... No. You don't have to put in sexual innuendo. You don't need to "steer a conversation to be more sexual." This is one of the most unhelpful myths out there in "seduction." Talking sexually with a girl, before you've actually had sex, is a good way to make it less likely that you'll actually have sex. Unless your game is advanced enough. What you need is, the ability to build rapport, the balls to physically escalate, the i…
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:30 PM
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That's another thing.. I see myself as a generally nice and interesting person, but when the conversation begins to center around me, I feel.. like an asshole. I feel like I'm bragging or boasting about my accomplishments, when in reality all I'm doing is talking about myself. Can you give an example of this? Also, it's going to be easier if you are directing the conversation towards the girl anyway...... actively listening to her and using the information you get from that to direct the convers…
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:13 PM
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Hi reddit, 18 year old male here. I seem to have no problem approaching, engaging in conversation, and being likable. What I do have an issue with is how to present myself as someone that she would want to sleep with. This isn't an issue with trying to "steer the conversation to a sexual place." In fact, as a beginner, you don't need to take the conversation to an overtly sexual place. If you try to do that, as a beginner, you're actually LESS likely to have sex. Too often I find myself having a…
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:10 PM
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What's up guys. I've never really been alone in my entire life. Then you seem to already know the problem. But do you know why this is? I had room mates all through college, met my soon to be ex-wife there and promptly moved in. And throughout, you never had a pull to have your own place? Roommates drove me nuts in college. I was happy to get my own place. After 8 years, a son, a set of twin girls, and an incident of cheating I ended up divorced. Who cheated? Who called for a divorce? Noticing t…
/r/seduction03/08/15 10:29 AM
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If they are too good looking I'm not attracted to them and won't even bother because I've been given the "ew" look way too many times without even saying a word. Girls will give that "ew" look to guys with low confidence. I'm short and skinny (5'9" 160lbs) and like a 5/10 face so the girls I'm into won't be into me. There is not some universal scale of beauty that a council of people vote on and that all of us must follow. Your 10 point scale is a matter of personal taste. You are looking at thi…
/r/seduction03/08/15 06:33 AM
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Thanks for the positive feedback. You think i should have gone and approach as soon as i got the non verbal response? YES! When people have that kind of response, that's exactly when they should be opened. Im lacking balls, It's common to have confidence issues at some point in our lives. ;) i feel kinda weird hitting girls in front of many people. Guess i gotta grow em! It'll seem weird. It just depends on how you look at it. Realize that a person who smiles at you, is receptive to talking to y…
/r/seduction30/07/15 05:15 PM
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Can't even approach while I'm drunk at a club..... So you can't approach while you're trashed? You make it sound like being drunk gives you game and you're somehow lamer for not being able to approach even while drunk. But being drunk actually screws over your game in many ways. Many of those guys you see mad approaching while drunk, are actually blowing themselves out left and right because they are too drunk to handle their business. Being drunk can actually make it HARDER for people who have …
/r/seduction30/07/15 05:56 AM
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I have a fairly muscular body and I'm curious about responding to compliments from both males and females (I'm into girls but dudes sometimes say things in front of girls). What is the best way to respond to these type of compliments in a funny/cocky/thoughtful way? Positively. That's it. If it's your style to be funny and something funny crosses your mind, then sure, why not. Be funny. But you're required to be someone's dancing bear of entertainment. Cocky? Mmmmmm...... probably not. You could…
/r/seduction30/07/15 05:45 AM
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I started looking at this sub after a 6 year relationship to find new women. Getting back into the dating pool is all good and well..... After about 3 years after her I cannot find an equivalent partner, things have been great getting to a meet girls but I am still stuck on the same woman. However, you haven't really gotten back into the pool. Not fully. If you're trying to find another girl who's like her, then you're not letting go of her. Three years could have been enough time for you to rec…
/r/seduction30/07/15 05:42 AM
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I'm used to talking to girls who I like and respect, not a beautiful young woman who I could see myself dating. Your phrasing is confusing. Could you clarify what you mean? This makes it sound like you don't like and respect girls you could see yourself dating. The dilemma I'm facing because of this difference is that I don't know how to handle texting this girl. Not to sound like a pompous douchebag but I usually just don't talk to/text women, and they seem to reach out to me. What's the big de…
/r/seduction30/07/15 05:31 AM
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Sorry for the newbie question... As title says, I got asked in front of a group of people including the girl, what's the appropriate/best way to deal with this situation? She's my date but not gf-bf relationship yet. Firstly, I'm just going to put this out there: This is an issue is one that mainly comes up when: People are acquaintances. People who are closer to you, will be up on current events and wouldn't be creating a situation like this. People are younger, more immature, less experienced.…
/r/seduction30/07/15 04:24 AM
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How important are common interests? Not very important. At least not in the way people think. It always seems like I don't have a lot to talk about with women on dates. I'm not into the things most people are into. So what? Conversations have little to do with you talking about the things you're interested in. Conversation isn't about dumping information on a person. It's about listening and getting the girl to talk. It's about connection. It's about getting her to open up about her emotions and…
/r/seduction30/07/15 03:40 AM
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This had to be removed but I'll still answer it...... .....there's a girl I've recently started eyeing. For an entire year I havent really cared to talk to her nor hangout but just recently we got paired up for a final examination where you have to perform a full examination of the person head to toe. Firstly, this is a mixed bag. It's a saving grace that you haven't interacted with her much over the last year, because otherwise the fact that you'd waited a year, would be a bit of a problem. Id …
/r/seduction30/07/15 03:36 AM
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/r/seduction30/07/15 03:26 AM
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Yea i know a fuck ton of people say its a bad idea approaching there. I feel like there's a different subreddit people are reading to come up with these ideas or they're mistaking fearful comments from other beginners here, as some rule. It's not like some rule that there are places that you can't ever approach. i was doing my stuff, i noticed her, she noticed me, smiled at each other. And them bam the idea enters my brain. I should approach her at the exit. "I must set it up before" i thought, …
/r/seduction30/07/15 03:20 AM
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I see what you mean. And yeah that's the thing mate. She was putting in a lot more information and talking and attention than I was. I didn't really try on my own whim to be super conversational with her, but she would often initiate conversation and I'd be polite and listen to what she was saying, have input of my own, look her in the eyes, etc. Figured she was just doing the polite thing as well. It's actually quite effective to "not try," listen, look her in the eyes, give input on what she w…
/r/seduction29/07/15 11:36 AM
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I know the basics are likely the same, but how do you tweak your skills and "game" as you age into your 30s and 40s, Tweak.... ? You don't need to tweak for age, but rather for your own taste. But no matter what age you're at, you can never tell which girls will be into that. if you're done with the club scene and want to meet women 27+? Hit up a partner dance scene. They are amazingly adaptable. There are a variety of dances for different tastes. If you pick the right scene, it can be a great p…
/r/seduction29/07/15 11:27 AM
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Ok so I went out a few nights ago and I approached a cute blond by herself. I went up and I said "what's up? How's your night going?" In a pretty nasty tone that turned me off, she says "good. I'm just waiting for my boyfriend to come back" Look, when the girl opens like that and says something like that in response...... You should have two questions for yourself Did something in my response rub her wrong? This is always a possibility. Though sometimes it has nothing to do with you, really.....…
/r/seduction29/07/15 05:38 AM
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Conversation Be chill, keep conversation simple, ask her about her who she is, passions, what she cares about in life, keep the mood, slow and mellow, and let the seduction build. Have her tell stories about high school, her friendships, her family. This will comfort her and start attaching feelings of nostalgia to you. To elaborate on this, you're not getting attached to feelings of nostalgia here, but you will be building a connection with her by getting her to open up. The key to conversation…
/r/seduction29/07/15 04:36 AM
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I know I was there with Merlyn but .....I was ......drunk..... So the moral here is...... Don't drink so much. If I had a dollar for every time alcohol screwed over my game in some way.... And don't beg, of course. Dropping your self-respect doesn't get you anywhere. It's one of those things that we, as men, often can't learn without going through something like what you did, though. (I certainly did.) :P
/r/seduction29/07/15 04:18 AM
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/r/seduction29/07/15 04:11 AM
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This is being removed because there's not enough to this, beyond an Amazon link to a book and a link to an email list.
/r/seduction29/07/15 03:59 AM
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The reason why I said that last statement is because at the club it is a High volume of woman , and being as though I was having such a good time dancing nd letting lose I wasn't focused on pickup . So I feel as though if you go to a club that plays music you don't like . It's a bit easier to focus solely on pickup becuse your not having 2 much fun dancing ( depending on the person) Only problem is that focusing on pickup, usually yields worse results than if you enjoy yourself first. That piece…
/r/seduction29/07/15 12:48 AM
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Most of the others are not in my age range. Im 19. So theres little chance of me making friends Hmmm. Couple things here: What age group are they in, exactly? Seduction, at its heart, is merely socializing. Talking to strangers of any age can be good practice. Or...... you can isolate yourself. But getting out there and socializing, will be good practice.
/r/seduction28/07/15 09:37 AM
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Just with family. There is a decent amount of people here. So....... why can't you socialize with the people there? But yeah I'm on vacation i guess. Cool! Have a good time!
/r/seduction28/07/15 07:58 AM
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I feel like the way I worded it, I made her seem validation-seeking and immature, but she was just sending cleavage as we flirted. Immature? Not necessarily. But sending cleavage to a guy IS validation-seeking.
/r/seduction28/07/15 07:41 AM
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correct Damn. Why are you out in the middle of nowhere? How many people actually reside in that area?
/r/seduction28/07/15 07:38 AM
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Thanks for the reply and to comment to what you said . I have to let you know that throughout the Congo I was involving the friend , I just messed up toward the end . Gotcha. Live and learn. You're doing better at clubs than I was when I started. ;) And as far as the other approach , the female wasn't dancing she was on the wall on her phone and I came up to her dancing having a good time while joking around . Well sometimes, it's not your issue. If the girl was wall-flowering like that, then sh…
/r/seduction28/07/15 07:25 AM
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At this point, I realized I acted very horny in my responses, but I believe she's at least "into" me and would like to see where I can go with her from this point on. Yeah, next time, just flip the script. Don't come respond to such validation seeking behavior in a way that falls into the trap. Good luck, man!
/r/seduction28/07/15 07:20 AM
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Ignore it or make casual comments about something in the background or about how bad the lighting is. LOL In my head, I can imagine the girl getting deliciously frustrated with the lack of desired response to her pics. Or my favorite, respond with a pic of your knee, or your feet kicked up on the desk or another chair, or pull up a pant leg and send a pic of your ankle. I like your style, sir. :) Filing this away for future use.
/r/seduction28/07/15 03:29 AM
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I was snapping this girl and she was sending cleavage and we were flirting and talking about her body. I called her sexy and things were going well. Then, I said "lets hook up" First of all, what you're seeing here is.... The path of getting "sexy pic" and "talking dirty" is NOT the same as being on the path to sex. In fact, the moment you started going along with the conversation going more dirty and dirty snap shots..... you were screwing yourself out of actual sex. Secondly, while you were ge…
/r/seduction28/07/15 03:28 AM
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so after about a 2 minute convo her friend comes and decides the want to leave to another room , so when she stands up im pulling her back lightly in a playful manner telling her to stay , she ends up sitting on my lap and at that momment in my head im thinking "f close" "k close" "eat pussy close" lol So this was the point when you should have already number closed her. Then you could hit her up later or even possibly playfully text while she's in the club still. Then i remembered a rsd tyler f…
/r/seduction28/07/15 03:19 AM
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/r/seduction28/07/15 02:50 AM
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Not at all, I'm very good at hiding my emotions, and not expressing them in a needy manner. The problem is, they're still there. Uh..... you didn't hide your emotions. What are you talking about? You used a form of the "L" word, man. And the overall tone of the messages was emotional enough to be something that two established people in a relationship would send to each other, maybe. But for a first date? No. You definitely strayed into slightly needy territory and were not hiding anything. She …
/r/seduction28/07/15 02:47 AM
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Going to take a tough love approach here. Some of this might seem.... pointed. But realize that it's not really directed at you, as a person. I've been where you are, actually. That said, there are some things to critique regarding your chosen mindset and actions. We were on the beach, smoking weed, cuddling, laughing, and finished off the date making out. This...... was actually pretty good. You apparently built a good connection and were comfortable escalating physically. You have many of the …
/r/seduction28/07/15 02:47 AM
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More great notes, thanks. As gor kino, am I taking the "touch everyone" rule too seriously? Well, you should be trying to be more comfortable with casual and even innocent touches in the early going, but it's not like you're on some timer and you have to get some touch in there or you lose. The schedule for the pace and intensity of kino ALWAYS should be determined by paying attention to the girl. She really is the source of most of the information you need to have in order to game properly.
/r/seduction27/07/15 06:47 PM
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Sorry if my reoort was confusing but when I asked her about the shirt I was in marshals. (Concert was the night before) I wasnt sure what to say. At the concert I actually did talk about the bands it was a lot more easy than the cold approach in marshals. Ah. Hmmm. Sometimes it can be a fun little interaction or game, to get a lady's opinion about the clothes you're trying on. If you're actually there to buy. If not, then there are usually things you can use from your current situation, to talk …
/r/seduction27/07/15 06:02 PM
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Eh well i guess ill have to wait till college resumes to make friends. You haven't supplied ANY context. Does this mean you live in a rural area far from civilization?
/r/seduction27/07/15 05:46 PM
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Friends of friends. Or even friends of acquaintances. Let me answer this with a question: Is it weird to just call people up if you don't know them? Even if you have mutual friends? You probably already know the answer to this but you're hoping to find a loophole because there's some "mutual friend" out there that you're dying to add. Well, it's too bad because unless you can meet them in person, you're not going to be able to build a decent connection to get started, over text.
/r/seduction27/07/15 12:19 PM
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I'm thinking of going on a running date with this girl I met. It would be our third date. I figure we would run along the river. Maybe a few miles or so. Running.... I concur with sentiment on this thread that probably it's a terrible idea. ....do you talk when you run? Do I talk when I run? No. I run by myself. I don't have patience for running with other people unless they're at my level or close to it. Anyway, asking us if we talk when we run, is pointless. Regardless of whether you're in goo…
/r/seduction27/07/15 11:07 AM
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When I'm walking around town I have recently noticed girls making eye contact then flicking there eyes away for less than half a second and then flicking them back to looking back at me.is this Because I look weird or good?? Thanks , (I'm 6 ft 1 black hair and hazel eyes would that grab attention?) This question is pointless. You seem to be trying to figure out if there's interest......or why they're doing this or that little, small thing...... and you seem to want to figure that out before acti…
/r/seduction27/07/15 10:47 AM
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I had a good time and danced allot. Girls seemed to pick up on that. I flirted with a girl just by dancing had her smiling and giggling. When I could hear I talked to her a little and it seemed to be going great. Nice start.... a lot of people get hung up on this step! I say fuck it, I walk over and say " I really like your hair" she thanks me. "What do you think of this shirt? The color too bright?" She says its a good color. I choke. "Well thanks have a good day." I straight kamikaze. Then wal…
/r/seduction27/07/15 08:20 AM
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.. if the topic comes up? Sometimes I am just too honest for my own good. It just came out last night when we were talking about dating, and I said I was dating a few people. She was shocked but agreed it was proactive.. I said I'd just got back into dating and was trying to get on as many dates as possible. So what's the consensus with this? I thought it was a mistake at first, but now I'm thinking it does show that I have options (desirability). Echoing what the thread has said..... you're ove…
/r/seduction27/07/15 08:06 AM
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Recently, I've noticed strong dominant ediquette has can have a monstrous effect on results. But I'm having a hard time distinguishing which actions are emasculating/putting the girl on the pedistool and which aren't. Look, it's almost easier if you stop looking at this in terms of "emasculating" or "alpha" and "beta." Here's a short list of characteristics. You are confident & comfortable with yourself. You don't need to control but you're not afraid to have control when necessary. (Example: yo…
/r/seduction27/07/15 07:24 AM
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So I work at a pool and everyday there are lots of stunning girls from out of town that come. What is the best way to hit in them while still being professional!? Firstly, the question of "is seducing at work acceptable?" does not have a yes or no answer. It's on a case by case basis. Things to consider: Are you incapable of dating without leaving behind a mess or without making a mess during the dating process? If so, then you shouldn't date at work. Do you often find yourself dating crazy and/…
/r/seduction27/07/15 07:15 AM
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He didn't mention any future dates or hang-outs. He didn't text me after. Did you ever follow up with him? In another subreddit, I was recommended to come ask here what everyone thought of the encounter. The more I think about it... the more I realize I think he's just a master of seduction. By the end, I was completely infatuated by him. At its heart, "seduction" and "game" are really just socializing. It's not some competition, nor is it something that one person one-sidedly does to another. S…
/r/seduction27/07/15 05:43 AM
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Yeah I phrased that poorly, so its a coworker which makes this whole ordeal a bit more complicated. My gut feeling is that she is interested and so forth, but quite accomplished and reserved. She is a lot more open towards me than our colleagues though, and shes always keeping long eye contact and smiling. Doesn't matter. All this analyzation ....... While it's good to have an idea how open a girl might be to you before you go in, you're going perhaps too far here. You should be trying to take a…
/r/seduction27/07/15 12:49 AM
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Your post had to be removed but I'm still replying to it..... This will be kind of long, bare with me. I just started this new job a few months ago, there is a girl there that is pretty much everything I like in a girl, let's call her K. You're in over your head if you have built this girl up so far before you've truly gotten to know her. Cut to last week where one of my coworkers tell one of her close friends that I like her. I asked Ks friend to please not tell K because I didn't want things t…
/r/seduction26/07/15 09:46 AM
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/r/seduction26/07/15 09:33 AM
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One, I dropped a sexist joke a couple of days ago, she laughed but said she didnt like the joke. I just wanted to know where she draws the line basically, We can't tell you where HER line is. You get that information from what you observe of her words and actions. I like joking about stereotypes and political incorrectness even though im not a misogynist racist bigot. I try to find humor in most things, and that is how I cope. You don't need to justify anything to us. If that's what you're doing…
/r/seduction26/07/15 09:23 AM
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Firstly, if you want the maximum chance that you'll get what you want out of posting here, actually post something. :P Secondly, this particular topic has been posted at least 5 times this month. AT least. So you might do a Seddit search before reposting stuff that's been covered as often as this one. Thirdly, the answer to this thread hasn't changed: Loud nightclubs are not designed around talking. They're designed around non-verbal activities like dancing and listening to loud music. So you op…
/r/seduction24/07/15 02:41 PM
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No problem! I hope you can learn to trust yourself. Maybe me pointing some of these things out, gives you some evidence you can use to remind yourself that you should trust yourself more. :)
/r/seduction24/07/15 02:36 PM
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Let's say a woman wants you to hold her bag (a shit test). I kind of disagree with the idea that shit tests are everywhere. Or rather, that they are this adversarial thing that you have to have the right answer for all the time. Many "shit tests" are just two people finding out that they aren't compatible in some way. You shouldn't be trying to have the "right answer" all the time, so much as you ought to be trying to give your answer. The key thing that should be worked on, is not so much figur…
/r/seduction24/07/15 07:35 AM
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/r/seduction24/07/15 03:45 AM
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[Note: This thread had to be taken down but I'm still responding.] A lot of people have said much of what I'm going to say, so consider this a summary, with additional bits of analysis. Does it make me a bad person to think about meeting and having sex with other girls and thinking of how different my live would be if I just tried picking up all the time while i have a girlfriend? No. It's a sign that something's broken and wrong with the relationship. A little background, she broke up with me a…
/r/seduction24/07/15 03:44 AM
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This post had to be removed but I will still post a reply..... I've been interested in this girl from college a little while and want to ask her out but I haven't seen her in a while since its summer. How long have you known her? I'm eager to get back into the dating game since its been a while since me and my ex have broken up a while ago How long have you been broken up? How much of that time were you hanging out with this new girl? I don't have her number though, but I was wondering if there …
/r/seduction24/07/15 03:29 AM
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/r/seduction24/07/15 03:24 AM
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Just texted her via FB and she was very responsive, did it because company requires things to occur smoothly. I asked her out and she didn't stop texting me yhrough these days (maybe she was trying to get to know me better). I will date her this week. Cool...... Good luck then!
/r/seduction24/07/15 03:19 AM
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Am I disadvantage with not having Snapchat. No. But am I missing out on an integral piece of game by not having it? Dude. NO. It's merely one option for communicating. It's one tool and it's one of many ways to gather information, but it's not even necessary. What's necessary are things like: The ability to conduct yourself in person around her; social skills, kino, etc. The swapping of contact information so you guys can communicate and coordinate meets.... etc.
/r/seduction23/07/15 09:00 AM
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You from there? Or just staying there? In any case, I don't know that any rural areas are going to be bumping on a Wednesday night. And what you supplied was a little too vague to search up some results. But here's what you could do: Go out during the day. Get coffee, ice cream, or something. Chat someone up. Guys or girls your age, doesn't matter. Ask them if they know where the places to be at night be. Google the exact city or town you're in, plus one search term like "nightlife," "bars," "cl…
/r/seduction23/07/15 03:29 AM
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Like if I brought the last girl to a bar and then to ice cream and then to the beach one night and it worked like a charm, should I try it again with a different girl? Short answer: Only if she is a clone of the last girl, being exactly the same and having the same interests. Longer answer: Girls are not manufactured in a factory somewhere. They are individuals with differing interests and characteristics and it's not like discovering a way that works with one girl, means you have stumbled on TH…
/r/seduction23/07/15 01:56 AM
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.....to which she replied, "Are you not yourself?" Not a shit test. She was clarifying where you stand. I guess you can call that a "test" if you really want but some guys seem bent on seeing confrontation and adversaries where there are really just girls who are trying to find out what you're made of and if you fit or not. I responded, "I love and respect myself too much to ever be anyone else." She shot back with a ":)" A little over-complicated and possibly trying too hard. But considering he…
/r/seduction23/07/15 01:53 AM
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We have NO idea. You haven't said a thing about what area/city/metro area we're talking about here. How are we supposed to come up with a suggestion that depends on area knowledge, without information about the area in question?
/r/seduction23/07/15 01:43 AM
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What about pre-game prior to or after watching the movie? Possibly. You haven't supplied any information about what plans you have before and after the movie. Will I be able to use kino then? See previous answer. Escalation is always on a case by case basis and your pace and intensity should be determined based on your observations of how she is reacting as you close in. Always. Your argument seems valid enough for me to think that, although not impossible: to just enjoy the movie with a friend …
/r/seduction23/07/15 12:43 AM
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She suggested we watch Ted 2, and I need your help on doing kino. You seem to have the wrong idea here: You are not going to have much room to escalate far in a public movie theater. The way the seats are designed and with all the staff and people around, it's a little awkward & limited, how far the girl will feel comfortable taking it. What's more, if you are paying to watch the movie, just chill out and enjoy the movie. You kino during movie night AT HOME, not in public.
/r/seduction22/07/15 04:34 PM
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I'm not afraid to approach girls like her, Stay on target, man..... ;) My point was not that you were afraid, per se. My point is that you were insisting that you didn't think of yourself as below women as attractive as that girl..... but you literally said that you were below her. Until you face this, you can't fix this rather substantial issue.
/r/seduction22/07/15 08:03 AM
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I'll still answer this even though it had to be removed.... I'm writing this in hopes to understand what this girl expects from me. First off, you shouldn't be writing to US to figure out what SHE wants. Dealing with the person directly is always the most efficient way. All this theorizing is honestly a waste of time. We flirted with each other all weekend. By the end of the weekend we had become quite close where we would hug each other for 10 to 15 minutes, just enjoying each other's embrace. …
/r/seduction22/07/15 07:52 AM
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/r/seduction22/07/15 07:17 AM
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Because I just broke up with a rather amazing girl because she wanted something serious and I didn't just yet and I kind of want to hang myself I feel so awful. I've never been the one breaking up, how do I live with this? You did the best you could and as long as you didn't intend to be a dick, you're fine. Just try to learn from it. Next time, make sure you have a talk with her about what you want out of the interaction, at LEAST after the first kiss or after you have sex.
/r/seduction22/07/15 07:16 AM
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Yeah I'm really kicking myself now. Chances are I'll never see her again, but if I do, I planned on saying just that. I'd recommend not being an ass to her with some shit test like that if you do see her again. It just struck me as completely off. I have a FWB and told her about it and she called me a dumbass and said I should have gone for it. It was just weird, she was like a 9 and I'm like a 7.5 on a good day, so it just felt fake to me. SEE? Stop bullshitting about not thinking that you're b…
/r/seduction22/07/15 04:18 AM
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Now, I've had girls ask me out before, but not like her. She was that girl you can show off to anyone and not be embarrassed. Anyway, I politely told her no- WHY?! Duuuuude. I felt like it was some kind of joke, so I said I wasn't interested. I'm above average, but she was an absolute bomb. I know you guys are going to call be a bitch for not accepting it or thinking that I'm "beneath her". It's not that I thought that. It's more of I felt like this wasn't real or it was some kind of joke/social…
/r/seduction22/07/15 04:08 AM
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It may be because I am demonstrating value as an athlete. Hmmmm. This isn't some universal thing that is valued. IF this is the case, it is more the case that something about you or your style, simply suits the girl's personal taste. She thinks I am on a run to exercise. And aren't you? ;) Plus I have done this so often my lines are delivered with clarity and confidence. This is probably the big factor here.
/r/seduction22/07/15 03:59 AM
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I want to try to be with someone like her, in a serious relationship, my past ones were more playful/lusty. This relationship will be sex-less as she is very conservative (goes to one of the biggest party schools in the U.S. and that was her first time going out with a guy by herself). This would be a mistake. There is a reason you weren't attracted to her: something is missing. You need to be honest with yourself about what that is. If not to me, then at least to yourself. You rejected her earl…
/r/seduction22/07/15 03:51 AM
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That's what I thought at first. But the funny thing is, I think because I catch them off guard, I get many legitimate numbers and go on many meaningful dates. I don't think it's because you're catching them off guard. You must be doing something right in your frame, delivery, authenticity, something.
/r/seduction22/07/15 03:30 AM
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You think going up to her randomly after class (I don't sit next to her) is better than just stating intentions from the jump? Either way it's going to be "random" in the sense that you talking to her is not on some schedule. Intentions? No man, that is my point. You DON'T know this girl. You are jumping to conclusions and putting so much extra pressure on yourself by assuming you have intentions beyond opening a conversation with her and seeing what she's about. Until you do that, you really ha…
/r/seduction22/07/15 03:05 AM
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Hot girls are inundated with texts/social media messages/online dating messages/etc etc etc, and calling is a good way to differentiate yourself from those masses. You show her that you want her enough to risk a phone call, where most guys hide behind a text. This is hardly representative of the general female populace. Calling is more confident but so is the Apocalypse Opener. There's a time and place for different approaches. That doesn't mean that everyone should always lead with a phone call…
/r/seduction22/07/15 03:00 AM
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I was wondering if it's better to ask her out on a date and get her number or just ask for her number and build from there Neither one. Open her. Have a conversation. You don't know what this girl is like. You might not want anything more to do with her. Talk with her. Then suggest hanging out AND exchange numbers with her. (Don't just get a number.)
/r/seduction22/07/15 02:15 AM
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should I ask if shes single first? NO. I think its weird to just approach and be like hey, can I get your number It is weird to open with a number close. Don't do that. You open by actually opening her. Start a conversation. QUIT assuming you even want her number until you actually see what she's like. Then if there's mutual attraction, THEN number close.
/r/seduction22/07/15 02:13 AM
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See, when I am running I have an excuse to leave early. I also demonstrate value to the girl because I am a runner. Oftentimes I am running, I see a woman, I stop and say something along the lines of "Hey I am going on a run right now but had to stop because you are really cute. Do you have a phone number?" Aghast that I took the time and effort to stop my run just to approach them, I gain extra points when going in for the ask. Potential problem here is, if you aren't taking time to establish a…
/r/seduction22/07/15 02:11 AM
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This had to be removed, but I'm still replying. (I'm replying to content from your Dating Advice thread here also.) ....I used to complain about my relationship problems to her and she was always there offering advice.....I'd always bring up other girls as I wanted her to know I didn't like her that way. .....she'd message me from time to time and I would stall/ignore So you firmly squashed any romantic feelings she might have had and put the interaction firmly down as a friendship. (You friend-…
/r/seduction22/07/15 02:03 AM
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Few months ago- I tinder dated a really hot 10/10......She came straight to my place....craving my d......I broke it off. I want seddit to tell me.. whats wrong with me. the younger me used to be craving sex.. and now that its on a plate in front of me I told her to leave? You don't need us. You already told us the answer above in your Background. You distinctly said: I'm not a wild kind of guy, I would prefer dating and getting to know girls than just one night stands of mindless fucking. .....…
/r/seduction22/07/15 01:35 AM
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Thanks for the input, I get what you're saying. I definitely don't want to date her since I'm going back to school and she's a little too immature for my tastes, but she is hot and a quick fling would be awesome. Just be careful. Don't let a girl like this get into your head: it's easy for them to start sneaking in little things and actions that get you doubting yourself. I know I need to work on escalating but I really struggle with it. For example I'm sitting on the couch next to her and consi…
/r/seduction22/07/15 01:09 AM
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I was under the impression that the majority of above average females (5/10+) were racking up massive numbers from the time theyre 15, yet the average female has only 4 partners? How does that work? I thought half-decent women were supposed to be constantly getting sex while the average guy is like some lonely cave dweller? You were basing your conclusion on incorrect assumptions, as you have guessed. You are aware that guys are always trying to get sex: We're generally in the role of Initiator.…
/r/seduction21/07/15 06:48 PM
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She was also the one that was 18. Now the dancer was telling me to hit up her younger sister who was about 16-17. Oh snap. I read that wrong and thought the younger one was 18. Nevermind. Yikes. lol
/r/seduction21/07/15 06:35 PM
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In a relationship now..... Good to hear that things are better now from those months ago.... :)
/r/seduction21/07/15 06:30 PM
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I've never brought a long a third wheel when picking up girls. Why would you even consider bringing along someone who's going to be a logistical problem for you when things escalate later? If you're double dating, then sure meet them somewhere, but being everyone's ride makes it inconvenient later when the girl wants to bugger off and you still have some third wheel to go drop off somewhere. Or if you mean having a WINGMAN vs going SOLO..... then my preference is still to go solo. Simpler that w…
/r/seduction21/07/15 06:29 PM
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the girls .....they're ugly (even though the one I would consider to be a 7-8)......that they're pretty insecure, and they probably don't have much experience with guys being 18 in high school So..... What's the draw here? Insecure girls will get inside a guy's head and drag him down. This kind of girl will make your life go downhill. Though if you only want a one night stand, maybe you can stand this long enough to get through a night of it. And do you realize how exhausting it is to teach a gi…
/r/seduction21/07/15 06:27 PM
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Re: Your Supposed Prereqs In my experience I've noticed there's three prerequisites to pull in a nightclub of which you need at least two. Physical appeal on par with your 'target', Hmmm. Not appeal on some universal scale. It's more like: "You need to suit the specific taste of the 'target'." It's not like there's some scale that everyone is on. So worrying about this, is kind of pointless. You just need to approach and see how far you get, and in doing so, you find out if you fit their taste o…
/r/seduction21/07/15 02:38 PM
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Well I'll see. I'm going out with my friend with fabulous hair again tonight. :D Good luck then! The hike is quite harsh. Last time I did it, there were like 30° and I felt like I was going to die. And am rather fit. Ah. I see. Well it sounds like a good way to screen out girls who aren't taking care of themselves. lol?
/r/seduction21/07/15 02:25 PM
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I'm not gonna get my hopes up too much but my interviewers said I did pretty good. Nice! I used to date a Co-worker a while back at a previous job and it ended horribly while we where still working together. (she cheated on me with multiple people, it was a mess.) The good thing about an experience like this is that you get information that helps you as you move forward. Now you have a better idea how to avoid such people. And dishonest people, are ridiculously easy to spot 99% of the time. Most…
/r/seduction21/07/15 02:23 PM
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So nothing special but I was actually approached by a cute girl while walking to my car from a job interview after giving her strong eye contact and a smile. I kinda messed up this one on purpose as I couldn't tell if she worked where I interviewed (don't shit where you eat.) but I see where where I could've improved there by simply asking. Dude. First off, are you getting the job for sure? Secondly, the whole "don't shit where you eat" rule is BULLSHIT. The real suggestion or rule here should b…
/r/seduction21/07/15 08:13 AM
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Some of this will retread advice you already have, but more indepth..... Why do girls bail/back out on the final moments of a planned date? I'll assume you mean to ask why WOULD they bail..... Otherwise this is a gross over-generalization. I've had this happen to me numerous of times. Now I'm even anxious about texting the girl I have something planned with, to not fuck up the good momentum of where we left the conversation. How do I prevent it? And should I even try to? This isn't nearly enough…
/r/seduction21/07/15 07:27 AM
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As a 30 male I want to ask what you guys think of talking to a girl by facebook/whatsapp to set up the logistics in the current situation: Texting is excellent for logistics. But you're not talking about logistics. You're talking about replacing in person communication, when you seem to have access and opportunity to communicate with her in person. A coworker is interested in me (I know that because my female friends told me), Quit dealing with third parties and he said, she said crap. Deal with…
/r/seduction21/07/15 04:44 AM
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I know it's not something to be ashamed of, and I'm pretty sure this thick feeling in my gut right now is anxiety that comes from ego -- how do you get to the point where shit like this doesn't bother you anymore? "Pickup," "seduction," all of this..... it's nothing more than being social and developing confidence. That's really it. Your friend laughed at you because he's insecure about himself and would rather put you down than improve himself when faced with something he could improve. He migh…
/r/seduction21/07/15 04:27 AM
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I'm generally a pretty serious person.. how can I learn to lighten up and be a funnier person? A lot might depend on your mindset. If you place a high priority on absolutes, like being absolutely correct or pinning down the absolute truth, then you're going to be more serious. If you place a high priority on being comfortable in those grey areas instead of having things black and white, it'll be easier. If you're more flexible instead of rigid-minded, it'll be easier. If you're okay with the ide…
/r/seduction21/07/15 02:38 AM
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Whenever I start a conversation I hear "Woah you're tall" alot. I'm 6'8, how do I respond? Doesn't matter how you respond...... as long as it isn't negatively. Exactly how, should depend on your personal style. Maybe you could be playful about it: watch videos of your favorite comedians making jokes about height or size and you could get some ideas about funny things you could say. Or you might say something harmlessly sarcastically about being a basketball player. Or maybe you just play it off …
/r/seduction21/07/15 02:11 AM
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LDRs..... They're simply not sustainable unless: Both people are content with video chats and IMs as a primary form of interaction. Perhaps both people are asexual, demisexual, or otherwise have a low sex drive. There is an iron-clad plan for when they'll be living in the same area and/or there are plans to visit before they can come together for good.
/r/seduction21/07/15 02:08 AM
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I see your point. So how would you deal with it? Deal with the girl you're dating? See it through and explore that. Be honest with yourself. If you're not really on the market, then stop trying to be, because it apparently won't go well. Sure, go out with friends, but you going through sets at this point might feel fake or wrong to you. The view is really awesome. The walk is a 40min really tiring walk on not too easy terrain, I would rather not do that at night with a girl who was in a pub just…
/r/seduction21/07/15 01:31 AM
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Honestly, the most important component is attentiveness and being able to adjust to her. It's not a question of "how fast do you go?" We literally can't tell you this answer. She shows you this answer.
/r/seduction21/07/15 01:03 AM
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She gave me a sullen look, and said, "No." So i said, "Oh, you always dress like that for breakfast?" She turned away. I paid and fled. Just to be clear, SHE was the one with the problem. It doesn't reflect on you if someone is incapable of answering a simple question without sounding like a lying idiot. You were kind of hilarious. What you said didn't need to be driven by some need to get her number or whatever. In fact, she failed as a person and I hope you realize that you didn't want her num…
/r/seduction20/07/15 12:34 PM
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So as the title states I broke up with my GF of 3 years. Somewhere during that time I drifted away from the group of guys I would go out to the bar with. First thing..... next time don't sacrifice your friends for your relationship, if that's what happened. She should be integrating into your life, not ripping you out of your life. In any case, you should not have to put your life together like this after a break-up. I can try to re-connect with them but am wondering how to possibly find new peo…
/r/seduction20/07/15 08:18 AM
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Feels like then I'm only just doing it because I know there is interest, and would rather approach cold. You seem more concerned with not offending people, than you are with the most important thing her: what YOU want. If you like cheese sandwiches, will you be judged for buying and eating cheese sandwiches? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. So if you are pursuing girls you want, there's nothing to be judged for.
/r/seduction20/07/15 08:15 AM
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Is is inappropriate to use Direct on campus? I much prefer to do direct as opposed to indirect but am feeling unsure about going Direct on campus in general. I'd ask what you consider "direct" and what you consider "indirect." All direct is, involves talking to the girl directly, according to what's on your mind. Indirect means you hide your intention by doing things like, talking to a girl's friend instead of talking to her. There's nothing wrong with being direct on campus. Seduction is just b…
/r/seduction20/07/15 07:59 AM
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.....she was having with me and told me so. I was doing a ton of kino and she didn't stop me. I went for a kiss and then she stopped me and said "I'm not ready yet" (She started divorce proceedings 4 months ago) I didn't act butt hurt, I just shrugged said "It's a guy thing" and moved on. (She cracked up at that line by the way). So it started off pretty good. Though you didn't need to justify jack shit after she said she wasn't ready yet. You didn't need to say, "It's a guy thing." You just nee…
/r/seduction20/07/15 07:23 AM
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.....I managed to kiss her This is what needs to be adjusted. It's almost like kino is a race for you or something you just try to push as far as you can, until you get to sex or she shuts you down. .....she made it seem like I touched her too much and I came off too strong. Right. Because you weren't paying attention to her. You were focused on what you wanted, without regard for her state. How do I gauge this kino stuff? Is there a way I can gauge how fast/slow a girl likes to move? How go you…
/r/seduction20/07/15 04:38 AM
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and internalized this need to constantly be actively disinterested and not to express interest. After seeing a lot of other guys in action this year, I've been trying to make a point of being more direct. Again, simply walking up and saying, "Hi," and taking the general approach of "Hey, let's see what this girl is about, because I honestly DON'T KNOW," is not indirect. And being direct doesn't mean walking up to a girl and saying something like, "You're so beautiful," or "I want you," or "I jus…
/r/seduction20/07/15 04:31 AM
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(iii) "Hi," or "How's your night?", etc. a. I like easy openers. I experimented with opinion openers for a while, and while I was shocked at how easy it is to transition from something so contrived to a natural conversation... I feel like I am better at transitioning with a simple opener. This isn't contrived. And it's not hiding your intentions, or it shouldn't be. You have NO idea who she is, as a person if you're meeting her for the first time, so those are valid ways to open a conversation.
/r/seduction20/07/15 04:18 AM
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....she won't stop talking to me through message always teasing but always seems to be somthing stopping her from meeting any tips / pointers keep in mind I'm young... It's simple. Texting doesn't replace a normal human interaction. But you don't need to whine at her or complain to her that she's not doing what you want. Simply show that with your actions. If you agree that life should be lived and you don't want to be one of those people who has their head down in their phone all the time inste…
/r/seduction20/07/15 04:12 AM
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.....it is not my job to try to show myself as the more attractive/interesting person, Seduction isn't about this anyway. .....I feel like a manipulative bastard, and like I'm trying to be someone that I'm not. Then, to be honest, you're doing it wrong. Seduction isn't inherently manipulative. And you don't have to be anything other than who you are, really. I know that it's a process, it requires effort, is it really worth it? The caveat here in the whole, "you can be yourself" idea, is that yo…
/r/seduction20/07/15 03:59 AM
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......in the recent weeks the idea of going out just sounds like it will cost time and resources I would rather spend elsewhere. I've totally been there. I think I'm coming out of one such break now, actually. My party years have come to an end, or at least taking a minor break. My question is, what do I do next? Should I just focus on myself, and get my ducks in a row? Well, you shouldn't ever be losing focus on yourself. Game is kind of secondary to life, or should be. If you want quality peop…
/r/seduction20/07/15 03:54 AM
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Are all of you guys that get laid here actually interesting, or have you figured out a way to fake it for successful interactions with women? This question doesn't really work. If people could fake it, why would you want to be fake interesting? Short cuts are shit and don't help in the long run. Better to just be interesting. Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger Effect? Many people who are not interesting, would unfortunately lack the tools to recognize that they aren't interesting. So asking people…
/r/seduction20/07/15 03:40 AM
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At which point in dating/relationship can you relax and stop the text games, push-pulling, negging, alphaness, whichever seduction trick you can think of, I've seen this girl a couple of times and we didn't have sex yet, we're long distance right now for another 2 weeks and I'm sort of tired of trying to maintain this alpha image without boring her. Couple questions. What do you mean by "push-pulling?" ** What do you mean by "negging?"** What do you mean by "alphaness?" What other "seduction tri…
/r/seduction20/07/15 03:28 AM
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Some women get humor, they get teasing and they know how to play along, they laugh, they don't take it too seriously. Obviously, you're on some peoples' wavelength but not on others, like anyone else. In any case, when a girl responds like this, it just seems awkwardly anti-social to me, regardless of the reasoning. You can/should take a step back and get over yourself here. It's not inherently "anti-social" when two people don't relate to one another. It just means that you don't relate. A pers…
/r/seduction20/07/15 03:15 AM
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Based on the little you've provided, her friends were doing what she wanted them to do Basically exactly what the title says. Girls are not like guys. They often grind for validation, but often without any interest in seeing it forward. When that happens, their friends will pull them out of a situation with a signal from her. Or perhaps the girl was drunk and her friends know she wants to be pulled from that kind of situation. Girls observe the buddy system. If that girl was "into it," she would…
/r/seduction19/07/15 06:40 PM
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The problem was not the girl. She is attractive. It was more that I am sort-of seeing someone. But I am not in a relationship so it was all in my head basically. Well back up the train here. If you are seeing someone and that was enough to make you pause when you were trying to game another girl, then the problem is in your head, but not quite the way you think. Whether or not you have the label of "relationship" is irrelevant. The label is just a logical construct we use to describe the current…
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:57 AM
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I felt that me joining him to talk to a girl who was alone would be even worse What do you mean? That guy was joining YOU and her, not the other way around. ;) (and also, I hadn't decided yet to do something). Really, I think if you feel ho-hum about it, then it should be game over. Don't game some girl because there's nothing better, if you wouldn't choose that girl normally. I would have needed to move her friend and my friend too, I guess. Doesn't require much. Just, "Hey, come meet my friend…
/r/seduction18/07/15 04:25 AM
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He was asking them for a smoke, so he had that conversation starter, rather than having to think of something to say. I guess that's a decent way to start but he will need to pay attention in order to have more to talk about after the opener. Baby steps though..... :) I don't think he was talking to sex with her, that's just what he wrote to me. If he was simply making a diagnosis, then this is not bad. I wasn't really being indirect. I just had not decided what I wanted to do about her… In any …
/r/seduction17/07/15 08:22 AM
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I think it's a bit of both. I've received feedback that confirms that sometimes I seem to "always wanting to be the right one" (because I express myself firmly and that's a personality trait of mine) and also some that said that people with low self-esteem avoid me or think that I'm pretentious because I exhale high self-esteem and confidence. I don't see any problem with the 2nd one but the 1st one...... I'd be careful if you think you do have a need to be "correct." If you do at all, it won't …
/r/seduction17/07/15 08:14 AM
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Your friend needs to adjust his approach My friend, a younger Indian guy (24) with fabulous hair, was really intentioned to pick up some girl and was targeting all the girls that were going out for a smoke by themselves. It was still quite early so they were waiting for their friends or boyfriends, so he really had no luck. It was probably creepy to keep "targeting" girl who went out to smoke by themselves. Because there's no connection between his bad results and the earliness, or them waiting …
/r/seduction17/07/15 03:45 AM
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I have been bald since 21, a typical male pattern baldness. I have struggled a lot lot because of it and my confidence went down like gravity pulling fallen rocket. Your issue is NOT the baldness. It's your confidence. I now shave my head but still amount of IOIs I receive are almost zero. I am slim as fuck, around 145lbs and 5 '9". Unfortunately, I am vegetarian ( Indian ) and can't bulk up fast eating meat or eggs. I consume milk and milk products but only vegetarian food apart from it. You're…
/r/seduction17/07/15 03:32 AM
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People often think that I'm full of myself. May I ask for an example? It's often hard to judge when people are being sensitive and jealous of someone who's merely confident and whatnot, versus when you might actually have something to work on. The worst piece of advice I've received from a guy around my age was "there are no mindgames, they don't exist". I'd say that it's more like "Some people play mind games because they can't be direct. They aren't worth your time." But then again, there are …
/r/seduction17/07/15 02:56 AM
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This concept seems outdated to me. Nowadays everybody is constantly talking to everyone through their phones even in the middle of work. The need to fake yourself as being busy seems stupid these days. I'm not trying to... It's what my vacations came to. I'm homestuck. Right.... well, I was still responding to the "common advice" that you were quoting. Agreeing with you. I actually meant hiding interest. My bad. I knew what you meant... ;) Just using your words in case that was the way you were …
/r/seduction16/07/15 04:48 PM
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Please don't go telling others how to live their lifes... This is a forum where people ask for advice. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. But if people post something here asking for help, they're going to get suggestions.
/r/seduction16/07/15 01:16 PM
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A few years ago, it was pretty common knowledge that, in order to not show oneself too desperate, people would wait 5 minutes between messages. Any rule is subject to a case by case basis. Overall, you should have a life that makes it difficult to be just sitting with your phone texting all day. I mean really, you have a life and it should be lived, which is impossible if you're on a damn phone. And of course texting is best left for logistics, but if you have a decent text conversation and she'…
/r/seduction16/07/15 10:20 AM
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Can anyone recommend good instructional videos or resources for learning to dance in a club? No substitute for actually taking the time too take a hip-hop class. Hip-hop is infused into a lot of pop & dance music these days so you'll have vocabulary you can use in a lot of situations. The shit I've seen on YouTube so far is all too formal (specific moves that would appear rehearsed) Keep in mind that part of learning dance, is copying..... like copying choreography. Which is rehearsed. But it's …
/r/seduction16/07/15 04:05 AM
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This, while decent advice, technically belongs in /r/fPUA....
/r/seduction16/07/15 03:43 AM
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I feel like this "friend" of his threw out a knee jerk reaction to being hit on, so the guys didn't have a 'chance' to escalate the interaction further. It sounds like she wasn't game and/or that the guys didn't read her right before approaching. They just "sarged" in there without much awareness of her state. And the more I think about it, I think it really was BS that she just wished they'd ask for her number or give a number and cut things short. This is like someone being bothered by a sales…
/r/seduction16/07/15 01:47 AM
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How do y'all pick up in a high music venue? I find it hard if I can't isolate and escalate in a rather quiet area? You mean in a place with loud music? Like a club? Take a step back and realize that you're not dealing with a place that's built around talking and socializing in the traditional sense. It's a place built around dancing and listening to loud music. So DANCING and other non-verbal openers are going to be the way to go. If you try to open verbally, you're doing the equivalent of walki…
/r/seduction15/07/15 08:20 AM
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I get the boyfriend drop far more often than when I was skinny and disheveled looking. I've also been hooking up with much hotter women. What is the reason for this? Like someone else implied, maybe you're just happening to hit more girls who have boyfriends, statistically. But it's definitely not related to looks. It's either dumb luck or some change in your approach. You haven't described your approach in the least so it's impossible to tell. I used to assume the boyfriend drop automatically m…
/r/seduction15/07/15 08:17 AM
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She mentioned that it's tough for her to just start a random conversation with a stranger which is why the interactions went nowhere. Incorrect. All it takes is for one side (like the guy) to know how to properly facilitate a conversation. She said she wished the guys had just asked for her number quickly so she could figure all of it out later and have a way to be in touch. This is BS. If she just exchanged numbers with some random dude, that number wouldn't mean anything to her because she wou…
/r/seduction15/07/15 08:11 AM
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I appreciate the honest feedback. This is all new to me, and I recognize I need to work on calibration and situational awareness. You seem pretty attentive, actually. You just have a plateful because you are juggling a lot of ideas and figuring out where they fit into your way of doing things. ....the woman isn't necessarily trying to game me, but rather just trying to get to know me are solid. It's something to look out for: a lot of "systems" out there are built around the assumption that "Sed…
/r/seduction15/07/15 07:37 AM
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Her: Where do you work? Me: WTF do you mean where do I work? We’re at a karaoke bar talking about music and you bust out where do I work? You might as well just ask how much money I make. It felt good. It felt really good to know that was coming and how to handle it. It was almost textbook. It was the first time I’ve ever identified a shit test before and I have no idea how well I handled it, but it felt great. I turned it around and asked her what she did. I was very playful about it. Some pros…
/r/seduction14/07/15 05:31 PM
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girls avoid me, forever and ever... It's not a conspiracy. If they avoid you, then you're doing something to inspire that. However, your rhetoric is so extreme here that you are either trolling or exaggerating and things are not this bad except in your mind. so my question is this: they know I want them, they know they want to be wanted... why don't they pretend they want me, for a second? (when in a situation when she / her won't be treated or labeled as a whore, by the society) Are you serious…
/r/seduction14/07/15 02:15 PM
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Do you just want to fuck a girl or to have a healthy and steady relationship with the one, or just friendship? Why should it matter to you what other want? Do you need to know what everyone orders in a restaurant? Why am I angry when anyone suggests me to read a PuA book or that sorts of crap which is producted by this society? I don't know. You've told us nothing about yourself. The only thing you've done is ask two unrelated questions.
/r/seduction14/07/15 02:06 PM
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How can I make myself looked to instead of an echo. Trying to be this, would almost guarantee that you won't be. Instead, I'd recommend: To stop looking down on the idea of participating with others. There's nothing inherently bad about reacting. If you want to be on the other side of it, that's fine. Just start observing life. Everything going on around you, everything people say, do, wear, etc. Then you simply share your observations. Or you put ideas together that seem to be naturally related…
/r/seduction14/07/15 08:50 AM
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Dude thanks for writing all this. And yea that girl is completely insane it's just annoying knowing that I could have potentially had 3 sexual experiences and maybe not feel so bad about myself as I do now. That's just it, I am saying that those 3 examples don't really strike me as big chances that you screwed up. They didn't really seem like chances at all, really. The ironic thing is, you probably have had chances, but the REAL ones, you probably missed because you've been preoccupied with anx…
/r/seduction14/07/15 05:24 AM
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Great! But next time, just set the particulars earlier and it'll be less stressful.
/r/seduction14/07/15 03:43 AM
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Sex Ed time ....when it comes to sex I'm afraid and just dont know what to do. So? Educate yourself. You live in the Age of Information. There's no excuse not to be versed in as many things sex as you can look up. Sexual positions, the location of the clitoris, the location of the male and female g-spots, your own personal Point of No Return before you ejaculate (This one you can't look up, you have to love thyself to know this one.), things you might try in foreplay, etc. And your attitude shou…
/r/seduction14/07/15 03:30 AM
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We agreed on sometime today, but I have yet to receive a text from her. I normally go workout at 7pm, which is a few hours from now. You should have confirmed the time, back then. You shouldn't have been scrambling to set it up hours before the time. She probably had plans by that time. You could have texted her saying you were going to the gym soon, but you probably wouldn't have gotten a good response. Also, you should have followed up with her much sooner. It's like you wanted her to forget a…
/r/seduction14/07/15 01:26 AM
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This link is being removed because there's no actual post at all, just a link to a product page.
/r/seduction14/07/15 12:37 AM
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Just curious as to whether or not anyone in the community has picked up someone that identified as asexual, demisexual, etc? Couple things about this. Someone simply identifying themselves as "asexual," or "demisexual," does not necessarily mean that they are. People often don't understand themselves so self-proclamations might be good indications of their current state but not necessarily meaningful in the larger sense. Of course, you should still respect it when someone identifies as such. It …
/r/seduction14/07/15 12:34 AM
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I'm not saying they avoid all eye contact, period. I'm saying they avoid eye contact with strangers unless there's a reason for it..... Could it be then, that you're setting the bar rather high before you call it "eye contact?" And even in social settings, if they're with their friends, they're going to be focusing on their friends. They might take a look around the room every now and then, but really, you have to be lucky to catch them looking at you. Because this is not what I was talking abou…
/r/seduction13/07/15 05:29 PM
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and he is talking about using the Question game on the first date.. I don't know what to do, if she asks me if I am a virgin.. I am afraid that if she finds out that I am, she will just see me as a pussy.. A couple of assumptions that are incorrect and bullshit in that video: You don't need to "prove" confidence to her. If you buy into this idea, you're assuming that you aren't good enough. You don't need tricks or gimmicks like "The Question Game," to get at her. You fake it until you make it, …
/r/seduction13/07/15 01:01 PM
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So the advice given here is "Act on the flirting". If OP escalated this flirting a bit, a girl who isn't really interested will pull out pretty soon. Am I understanding this right? Yes. If she isn't interested and she's confronted with a guy who's demonstrating that he will escalate, she'll pull back and reveal that she's not really interested. Which saves you time and frees you up to pursue someone who's actually up for it. But if she is interested, it works out. So either way, it's good.
/r/seduction13/07/15 12:33 PM
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Hello. Lately I have been having trouble differentiating between when a girl is genuinely attracted to me, or if she is just flirting.... Because I do realize that many girls flirt just because they can. And just because they flirt, doesn't mean they are attracted to you. Some girls flirt for attention, it's true. So how can you guys tell? What are some signs or giveaways that show she is actually attracted to you?... First off, you must stop trying to think of this in terms of looking for "sign…
/r/seduction13/07/15 08:41 AM
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How much should I take these videos seriously? Tyler says it took him 2 or 3 yrs of work to become that much fun. I will never be able to directly walk to women on street and tell her she looks cute. I have professional life and much more investment about people's perception about me. I'm not sure I understand your fixation with imitating Tyler's exact style. If you've watched any panel of those RSD guys together, they even say that one of their strengths as an organization is that they have guy…
/r/seduction13/07/15 08:19 AM
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Since girls might feel awkward giving their number in public with other people around to a guy they don't know, I've been practising giving mine instead. This is a weak move and takes away your ability to follow up. It also comes off like a cop-out, showing lack of confidence, and girls aren't always comfortable taking the initiative to call. Some might. Most won't. Anyway, neither choice is optimal. You shouldn't be giving her your number OR getting a number. It should always be a number exchan…
/r/seduction13/07/15 08:10 AM
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Uh, I'd say easily 99% of girls avoid eye contact, until it's at work or something. Not sure what you're doing. People in general, including girls, are extremely focused on being social, especially in public. They want to see what people are doing, wearing, saying. You know that's true. So if you're going to tell me that they sit around in a social situation, looking down at the floor or otherwise avoiding looking at anything, that doesn't make any sense. And every time I've been out, I've obser…
/r/seduction13/07/15 07:22 AM
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I can be talking to her, who's beautiful and interested in me, but when another guy comes over and shows like he's more into her than I am, I usually give the interaction to him under that guise that he clearly wants her more than I do, even if she is superiorly into me. What I'm not seeing here is a declaration that you are actually interested in her. Only that she's interested in you. I have to wonder if you aren't simply approaching for the sake of approaching. Because giving up on an interac…
/r/seduction13/07/15 04:12 AM
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Good luck man.... it's really hard using this but it has definitely helped me in the past.
/r/seduction13/07/15 01:37 AM
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serious question: how come as a guy being drunk doesn't negate my consent Are you implying that you don't want a girl that you're actively trying to get into bed? Or are you in the business of trying to bed girls you don't want?
/r/seduction13/07/15 01:16 AM
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Eh, that's an extreme case though. Most of the time girls won't even make eye contact, Not sure what you're doing, but most girls will make eye contact. But some things will make them avert their eyes from your general area. Like if you're posting up in the corner, not interacting with anyone, scanning the room. Guys who look like they're "on the prowl," may be avoided as girls scan the room. But they DO scan the room. It's easier, for example, if you're on the dance floor. so you're going to ha…
/r/seduction13/07/15 01:13 AM
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I got into a relationship with a girl who is exhibiting all the characteristics of a "nice guy" that I've been learning NOT to do. She can be kind of a doormat. Doesn't challenge me. Can take everything very seriously and because of it, doesn't always know how to have fun..... Well, not all the characteristics of a "nice guy." A lack of real confidence? Does she play the martyr, rather than asking for what she wants? Insecurity? Those things crop up a LOT in your garden variety "nice guy." Regar…
/r/seduction13/07/15 12:48 AM
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Being forward and clear in your intentions is only one piece, though important. The missing piece here is awareness of HER desire and her state. It's that whole important idea of calibration. Examples: Creepy: Guy come up and turns a girl around, and kiss her full on the lips out of nowhere. He has confidently displayed his desire, but with full disregard of her, her state, and her desires. Not creepy: A guy opens a girl non-verbally with eye contact from a distance. Establish her state and open…
/r/seduction12/07/15 09:29 AM
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Point of order: "being intoxicated" does not instantly equal "being unable to give consent." You KNOW that there are different levels of intoxication. So I dispute premises of your question: Being at a bar does not instantly turn intoxicate girls to the point of being unable to give consent.
/r/seduction12/07/15 09:21 AM
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I feel like there's a method to the Frank Sinatras and the James Bonds of the world; but what is the basis of their smooth? WHY are they that way? What do they use in every day dialogue to make a woman swoon? First mistake you're making here is comparing yourself to other people. Second mistake would be to compare script dialogue to everyday interactions. In any case, the quality you're looking for, there would be two aspects of it. Pay attention. Stop analyzing the world and BE in it. Be aware …
/r/seduction11/07/15 11:38 AM
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What is the best way to ask for a girl's number? No such thing. It's situation specific. Pay attention and the best way or ways will present themselves. You don't need the perfect phrase or time. You just need to pay attention and realize if you are BOTH enjoying the interaction up to that point. Hey let me get your number....Hey can I have your number? Your (blank) let me get your number. But -sigh- offhand, you could phrase these better. If you're going to go this route of asking for it like t…
/r/seduction10/07/15 08:54 AM
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Ok, so it's usually when there's a conversational vacuum, a silence. Which usually happens when I feel like I'm dominating too much and I want to give them space to do whatever they want. But then it's like they get overwhelmed with that power, or they get insecure, or they get bored, and then they run off haha. But they'll be receptive later if I reopen them, I just have to lead again. Which I don't mind, but I like experiencing other people. It sounds like you're taking the difficult route of …
/r/seduction10/07/15 07:19 AM
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Hey guys, I'm new to Seattle - what bars/clubs/nightlife do you find girls down to hook up? I know there's a lot more too it than finding the right spot, but it's still important! I'm 21. Don't get too wrapped up in this idea that there are places where girls are "down to hook up." Girls like that are everywhere. As far as Seattle, I guess it depends on what kind of scene you want. Something more posh or down to earth? What music do you like? Do you like dancing? Do you know any partner dances?
/r/seduction10/07/15 01:16 AM
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What are your thoughts on " forward kino" during daygame .. I.e - putting your arms around a girl- or - holding a girls hand- Agreed: it's great if you have the confidence to pull it off. If you're not comfortable though, you might want to start off more slowly or your discomfort will be felt by her and she'll get uncomfortable. Also, take care with any contact that is more in the realm of cutesy/emotional/girlfriend/boyfriend territory. Unless that's what you want. Because something like holdin…
/r/seduction10/07/15 01:13 AM
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Do you just ask it or is there some point to build up to? First off, realize that there's often a difference between the girls who make out in the club and those who will leave with you. Many girls are just up for validation and attention but only in the club. Secondly, you can ease into it by proposing to go somewhere else that's not the club. Preferably someplace that's half-way between the venue/club/bar, and your place. By the time you're asking her to go anywhere, you should be fairly comfo…
/r/seduction10/07/15 01:07 AM
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Hey guys I'm going to a party tomorrow night and I'm probably going to get wasted but what are some tips to meet girls at parties? Focus your attention to your surroundings. PAY ATTENTION. Don't drink much. Nurse a beer here and there. Once you have the information from paying attention (instead of wondering what to do), you will have things to talk about with others around you. Especially at a party. Pointing things out and making observations can be a good way of relating to others around you.…
/r/seduction10/07/15 01:02 AM
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How can I get buzzed without getting wasted? Everytime I drink I have either I'm so fucked up I can't walk home by myself. Dude. This isn't rocket science. You KNOW how not to get wasted. Drink less. Are you really asking because you lack self-control? If so, they you might have an alcohol problem and you have more serious issues than Seduction. In that case, you'd need rehab, not parties. Or are you saying that you can't exert your will against other people who are pushing you to drink? If so, …
/r/seduction10/07/15 12:58 AM
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This girl and I "talked" for a few months about halfway through my senior year. And then she randomly flipped out on me. Turns out her best friend was telling her to not date me because I was weird. It finally got to her head. Because she was a cheerleader she couldn't date someone who WAS weird. Always take peoples' stated reasons for things, with a grain of salt. People don't always understand themselves, don't know how to explain themselves, don't want to explain themselves, or want to make a…
/r/seduction09/07/15 06:40 PM
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Still had crippling depression and a few suicide attempts because girls wouldn't like me even though I lost all that weight and started dressing nicer. I think they knew what I looked like before and what kind of social status I had. Nope. It was because you still thought of yourself in the same way and had the same lack of confidence. You could be fat and game well if you have the right attitude. It had nothing to do with them remembering what you looked like before or your former social status…
/r/seduction09/07/15 08:55 AM
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There is definately more to the leader/follower thing. It's funny because there is often much debate about what being a leader or follower means. But really, it kind of boils down to what kind of man or woman someone wants to be. People find the truth they want, really.
/r/seduction09/07/15 06:40 AM
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This works very well especially if you are of the kind and courteous nature (that i believe actually to be a necessity when first meeting new people). I mainly mean swing dancing (as its is a more misogynistic style of dance due to the roles of leader (usually male) and follower (Usually Female). But I also don't see how this wouldn't translate to other forms of dance. (Note: this is going to be a little esoteric for any non-dancers!) Actually, any form of partner dancing is going to get more mi…
/r/seduction09/07/15 05:11 AM
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I sincerely don't have any particular hobby. I recommend you remedy this. Don't have friends? Find a hobby that's fun and comes with built in social interactions. Like partner dancing. This is great for so many reasons. Guys are usually in short supply so women are welcoming. You get kino as a consequence of dancing with someone, and you learn a new skill, which aids confidence. (Hint: NO one knows how to dance in the beginning.) Salsa, lindy hop, Argentine tango, west coast swing..... there are…
/r/seduction09/07/15 04:05 AM
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My routine on weekdays is home to office to coffee shop to home. Well, you're making it difficult by only going to those places (plus the gym, I assume). What hobbies do you have?
/r/seduction09/07/15 03:47 AM
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I'm going to the zoo with a girl so I'll be spending most of the day with which will be the first time I've been out with girl since I discovered seddit (yay). I understand that I need to be confident and have kino. Do you guys have any other advice or tip on ways to escalate ....... Dude. Going to a public place isn't about escalation. You might get into her space and get some LIGHT touches in but a public place like the zoo is not the place to push for k-closes or f-closes. It's a place to con…
/r/seduction09/07/15 03:37 AM
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I made some subtle joke about stereotypes on women, don't remember what exactly and a girl responded this way. quick ideas on responses to something like that to brush it off? It doesn't sound like the joke was that "subtle." What exactly did you say? In any case, you committed a faux pau. There really wasn't a good answer for you at that point. You shouldn't have been entering risky territory by making jokes like that anyway. If you're going to take risks like that, be prepared to bomb. And in …
/r/seduction09/07/15 03:23 AM
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Yea, but its mostly trying to dance with girls at raves. Other than finding a quiet spot, I can't really game by talking at raves. Yeah, no one really games by talking at raves. It's too loud. Eye contact and dancing will be more effective ways to open than trying to talk. But if you succeed at that and open a good conversation, then a girl will be more invested in straining to listen to you even though it's loud. It's just that trying to ask for that at the opener is often too much. The last on…
/r/seduction09/07/15 03:16 AM
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You're not wasting your years, yet. Feel like I'm wasting my teenage years. Listen to yourself. You're freaking young. Besides that, if you want really awesome people in your life, you can't be focused on trying to get those people into your life. You need to be building a LIFE. If you get caught up in any particular detail like "getting a girl," then your life will suffer. What are you doing with your life? You should be looking for some direction.....some larger plan besides girls. Let's say y…
/r/seduction09/07/15 02:52 AM
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I am a regular at the gym I go to. I see some of these people 4 times a week but still don't say much other than 'hey what's up?'. Someone else has gotten into the idea that active listening would be helpful..... What's ironic is that the GIRL used this technique on you, but you didn't realize it and dropped the ball. Let's take a look: Me: how was your 4th of July? You started off well. Asking pretty much anything will get the ball rolling..... And this was a relevant question for the time. Thi…
/r/seduction09/07/15 02:25 AM
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I know being open is crucial when carrying conversations, but at won't point does it seem like gloating? Or far too personal? Hmmm. Being open is good. Carrying conversations is NOT crucial and even undesirable. If you take that approach, it kind of comes built in with you talking too much. So how to limit yourself from talking too much? It's easy. Focus on getting HER to talk about herself. That's what the conversation is really about for you anyway: finding out if this pretty girl in front of …
/r/seduction09/07/15 01:42 AM
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You don't need to avoid talking about sex, what you need is to avoid sexting before you have sex with the girl, this is where I failed (and she too :P). Having it come up overtly in any way, sexting or talking, will create the effect that I was describing and that you felt. The feeling of awkwardness, unnaturalness, contrivedness. Creating circumstances is when you escalate with the girl, kino, kiss, make out, sex, etc. Close.... I'm talking logistics, really. Setting the stage so that escalatio…
/r/seduction09/07/15 01:27 AM
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So we need to avoid talking about sex, but how do we hint at it? like add dirty talk into the conversation? You do need to avoid talking about it, at least before it has happened. Yes. But you don't need to "hint" at it. That's indirect. What's direct? Kino. You can talk all day about sex and it won't get you anywhere, no matter how dirty you end up talking. In fact if you talk dirty with some girl, all it does is make things awkward because one or both parties feels like the whole situation is …
/r/seduction09/07/15 01:24 AM
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Yea I'm currently doing that. I'm trying to gain weight so I'm not running but I use my friends equipment three times a week to do some workouts. Hopefully that can help out a bit. At this point if you're that skinny, running won't cut your weight in a bad way. It'd help you cut your abs. Unless you already have abs that show. Anyway cardio is just something good to consider for overall health, whether it's running, swimming, or biking...etc. I don't remember what happened exactly, but that's wh…
/r/seduction09/07/15 01:16 AM
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I think it comes off better if you first grab her attention and tell her that with eye contact. Pre-opening with your eyes: This is going to be a really effective way to gauge where she is and also kind of take her temperature. Opening: You could walk up with something random like "Hey, I thought you were cute." You know how "cold reading" can make an impact, especially if you're right? Well, something that can be more effective, is simply observing the overall situation and the girl, and openin…
/r/seduction09/07/15 12:43 AM
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An example from the selling world: say you read an ad on an airplane brochure where you cannot initially buy. So you have to remember the thing you wanted for a long time. You basically have to go through an entire day of getting out the airport, finding the hotel etc etc. By the end of the day you have forgotten about the thing you earlier found was the neatest thing since sliced bread. What I mean is you absolutely need to use the smallest window in time you have where the mood is right to sea…
/r/seduction08/07/15 08:25 AM
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Met a girl on tinder and we had a great time. But didn't kiss didn't have sex. I'm actually surprised. What are the chances that I have sex with this one from here? There's no rule for this. You get this answer from the girl, not a bunch of guys on a forum. Most of the times I've been on dates I've had sex on the first date. Past does not determine future. And having the attitude that you should get something just because you got it from someone else, is poor and will negatively affect your chan…
/r/seduction08/07/15 08:04 AM
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Yes, you're totally right, but my point now is, she gamed you, it's totally OK but if you are interested in her, try leading the interaction so she won't get bored or gives up on you. If you're not interested, keep doing whatever you're doing :P Not true. Just the fact of the girl "gaming" you doesn't matter. What matters is getting out of one's own way and facilitating the things happen that you want to happen. If she games you or you game her.... everybody wins. (I've been on both sides of thi…
/r/seduction08/07/15 07:17 AM
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So is option A totally bad in the sense that there's nothing to build off of? No. I already said why above. I mean you have to start somewhere right? No. Starting off on the wrong foot can often sink you chances if you realize that first impressions are significant and happen rather quickly. Also, what's wrong with Guy B? I already said above. I mean it'd be weird if he straight up got her number and then left - so all you're saying is that you need to have a conversation with her/get to know he…
/r/seduction08/07/15 07:05 AM
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Also about the 2nd mistake I sometimes say that I lost to myself, not to that guy, Many of us have been there. Myself included. When you say that I need to "focus my senses and thoughts on the external world around you and the people in it, including the girl" what exactly do you mean? You say you have a problem with escalation. And you wrote of wanting to find "the right time." There is no perfect time and this kind of mindset is a problem because it leads to you going inside your head as you c…
/r/seduction08/07/15 06:30 AM
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What do you do when a girl games you? It's nice when the girl does her share or more. Seduction is a team sport, not a contest. If she's helping you, it's not bad. The mistake that some guys make is allowing the girl to threaten their manhood instead of realizing that she's making their job easier and they don't have to be less of a man for working with her. Specifically when it comes to text game? Ugh. Text is for logistics. Not replacing human interaction. She's investing more in you than you …
/r/seduction08/07/15 05:42 AM
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If you let her control the interaction she will get tired of making choices all the time and will lose interest.... I read your post and it wasn't her "controlling the interaction" that brought it down. It's because both of you kept putting pressure on the whole situation by talking about sex before you'd actually had any. She did lose interest but it was because of all the awkwardness and confusion about why neither of you were really taking any action when you guys were talking that much about…
/r/seduction08/07/15 05:38 AM
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I don't like to have sex on a first date. I don't even like to have sex on the second or third, generally. I have no issue with people who do, but I just have never felt comfortable having sex with someone who I haven't known for at least one or two weeks. Is this a problem in the dating world? Short answer: It depends. Longer answer: pay attention to the girl and you'll know if it's a problem for her. What are you looking for here? Something casual or serious? ..... If I'm hooking up with a gir…
/r/seduction08/07/15 05:23 AM
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......we talked all night on FB .....we talked for 2 more days and things were getting pretty sexual by that time....... This was a mistake, because...... When I finally had the chance I invited her for some coffee, things were a bit awkward for both of us when we met again since we talked a lot of things with no "pressure" and face to face was a little tricky. .....when talking about sex before you've done it, puts pressure on the whole thing. Next time, avoid directly talking about sex. It's c…
/r/seduction08/07/15 05:16 AM
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Guy A: Asks the girl if he can borrow something from this girl. Girl says yes, and then he proceeds to ask for her phone number so he can tell her when to return it. She agrees and he gets her number. Yay? No no no no NO. This is indirect. The underlying assumption is that you aren't good enough so you have to almost trick her into dating you. It's showing a lack of confidence and it'd be creepy to the girl if you're trying to be that roundabout in what you want. Just ask for her damn number and…
/r/seduction08/07/15 04:40 AM
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.....do I ask her to take my hand in the relationship or ask her what she meant in her mind with this. You're asking what to do but you've said nothing of what YOU WANT. What do you want?
/r/seduction08/07/15 04:32 AM
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The friendship has become dull and repetitive. We meet up once a week, sit somewhere in my house and smoke some cigarettes and talk or play video games. I am not interested in this kind of friendship anymore for quite some time now...... Let's be honest here, you're not interested in that kind of friendship interaction with her. Because I'm assuming you have other people that you'd be fine to sit around, smoke and play video games with. but I just can't get away from her. Heck, I am the one aski…
/r/seduction08/07/15 02:53 AM
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I'm skinny as in I'm not toned. I'm 5'10" and weigh about 130 lbs. My friends don't go and point it out but I have been told I am skinny by other people, just generally. Good thing here is that you don't have to clear out a lot of fat to see the results of your work if you start lifting any weights. If you started some cardio (like running) and supplemented with a little weights even 2 days a week, you'd see some decent results within a few months, easy. (If you struck with it.) This was two or …
/r/seduction08/07/15 02:13 AM
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Based on Ex Machina or the Terminator series, it would be fun and games until the machines arrive at the decision that lesser creatures like us don't deserve their help. :P
/r/seduction08/07/15 01:56 AM
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she was joking about how to put down female obviously..... I responded by saying "Oh I couldn't tell otherwise" just kidding around..... .....she responds "I'm a little offended by that", with a look of disgust on her face. Dude. Forget this girl. SHE was the one who was joking about it. So why should anyone who took it there, get offended by being in that area of humor? To be blunt, f--k her. Some people are just get offended by bullshit. Some people observe bullshit double standards about what…
/r/seduction07/07/15 12:27 PM
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At 26, even after working at a sales environment for a few years, somehow I'm still terrible at making small talk when I'm left alone briefly with clients. What can I do to become better talker? Better talking requires better listening. You're literally sitting there right in front of your best resource for things to talk about: the person in front of you. You say something. It could be almost anything. Then you LISTEN actively. (You don't think about what to talk about, you just listen and take…
/r/seduction07/07/15 12:16 PM
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I get what you mean about it being controversial, people like to point out that I'm really skinny. What do you mean? I guess when I was younger, I was around a lot of out of shape people (I am a runner) who loved to tell me I was "skinny." In what context is this coming up with you? Like, who is bringing it up? Your guy friends? Girls? If so, which girls? I've actually gotten rejected because of it, Because of you being skinny? Wha? What exactly happened there? I find this strange. Unless you're…
/r/seduction07/07/15 12:01 PM
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Ok, so the examples I'm thinking of are at house parties or daytime social gatherings. I'll introduce myself and just curiously ask them about their lives (school, free time, work, dreams, etc etc). And they answer eagerly, but they have this "deer in the headlights" look and never ask me anything in return. What are you doing with their answers? If you are focused utterly on what they say (read: you're NOT thinking about what you want to say while they're talking), then you ought to have someth…
/r/seduction07/07/15 11:35 AM
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it sounds like you are trying to escalate in public, on the first meeting with them. Is this correct? I'm gonna say 50/50 on this one. Half the time I want to escalate on girls I just met, but I can't. I'm too nervous - what if I make it awkward? Well, FYI, you are talking about a really steep difficulty curve when it comes to escalating on the first meeting. It's totally unnecessary. It's better to focus on staying out of your head, keeping your awareness out in the world and on the girl, and b…
/r/seduction07/07/15 03:56 AM
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I'll learn to take their opinions when they matter only. It's a process. I'm constantly checking in with myself to evaluate the worth of feedback I get. I mean I wouldn't say no to a Kate Upton, I just have a certain taste that I can't really explain. It's not "Brunette, hourglass figure, perfect teeth, runner, has to love Nickelback, etc.", it just varies and that was a kind of girl that got me for certain reasons. What do you mean its controversial? I was referring to how controversial it can …
/r/seduction07/07/15 03:44 AM
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So can you be a little more direct with someone after you have had sex with them before. Even as direct as sending a text message.. "Hey, lets F*&# tonight"? In general, stop looking for general rules. There is no such thing as, "all women like X in Situation Y." While some things are more common, trying to assume with a girl is going to screw you over because there are so many exceptions. Also, we can't tell you about the girl you're curious about. We don't know her and you've dropped all of 5 …
/r/seduction07/07/15 03:03 AM
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My looks are questionable. I'd say probably below average upper body and above average legs (due to my sports). Ginger hair probably does not help. Dude. Cut this shit out. For every guy, there is a type. I know plenty of girls who go ape shit for gingers. And PLENTY who go for a guy who's athletic. (What's your sport, may I ask?) So stop this ridiculousness. Sorry if this sounds like I am boasting in places, but I do not have an ego. You sound conservative and tentative in your assessment of yo…
/r/seduction07/07/15 02:59 AM
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That's all fine and dandy, I've adopted confidence. BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM! I think I'm fucked up inside. But, I just can't escalate. I can't ask them out; I can't get their numbers; I can't go in for the kino without coming off as super creepy. Why? Couple of things here. You don't have confidence if you can't escalate, get numbers, ask them out, etc. You're not "fucked up." You're just making things difficult for yourself by failing to properly identify the problem and thinking that you just nee…
/r/seduction07/07/15 02:42 AM
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How do I neutralize the hostile dudes? As Colm Maxwell said, kill with kindness. Or disregard (kindly). How do I peacefully push away the approval-seeking dudes? Think about how politicians are kind but diplomatic, shaking hands as they move around a room. They encounter such people all the time and they kindly accept it but they firmly set boundaries. They kindly dismiss people. They move around the room and leave people they don't want with them. ("Well, it was nice meeting you." or "It was ni…
/r/seduction07/07/15 02:10 AM
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It doesn't hurt to come up with a topic, but definitely you shouldn't be trying to run the whole conversation or come up with most of the actual spoken content. That's too much......work. :P It can be like being a captain. You go up to the bridge and steer the ship occasionally or make adjustments in the auto-pilot and let the engines do most of the work. Or like a king overseeing a conversation in the royal court. He might step in with a word, asking for more of something or less of something e…
/r/seduction07/07/15 01:43 AM
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besides mods, and people like you. Well, I am a mod.... lol. ;)
/r/seduction07/07/15 01:37 AM
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Apparently I'm too picky according to my friends which I'm not sure if that's good or bad. According to your friends. I laugh because "friends" say this kind of thing for SO many reasons. I have standards and the reaction from my friends who didn't, was that I was picky. They felt insecure about not having standards. Feedback from other people is important. If nothing else, it tells you what effect you have on others. But as for what their feedback actually says about you as a person...... Well,…
/r/seduction07/07/15 01:37 AM
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you both pass the Turing Test, then you should be proposing a meet I was considering writing a basic chatbot to automate this Yeah, don't do that. :P And "Turing Test" is mental shorthand. Girls aren't terribly likely to agree to meet someone if they can't establish that they're capable of holding a brief conversation like a normal person. So yeah, it's a Turing Test but it's not like some formal administered test. It's the same thing any person standing in front of a person in real life will ex…
/r/seduction07/07/15 01:15 AM
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My best friend in high school and college could have been a model. In middle school, he had high school girls fighting/competing over him. It was ridiculously easy for him. I was jealous for sure, but he was also my best friend so I was happy to see him succeed. But then something happened in his family and basically his parents ripped his confidence to shreds. He was still the same good looking guy. He still had girls chasing him. But a funny thing happened. He remained a virgin until after 21,…
/r/seduction06/07/15 03:15 PM
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I understand and agree, I even have toyed with the idea that I was used to get back at her ex, however we've kept in contact and she's specifically said she had feelings for me. So that's tough. You can have lesser feelings for someone, that hold a lesser priority than feelings you have for another. And it's possible that she also said that to be nice. Or some combination of the two. But yeah I get your point, there probably were signs, and I was oblivious. Give yourself some credit. You saw tho…
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:20 AM
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Another great effect is that I get to relax for the first time. For the longest time I got into the habit of trying to add to the conversation by thinking of random topics to talk about. Stop. Silence is your best friend. I'm done trying to impress. Let the conversation come naturally. Let them think of something if you got nothing. Otherwise relax and enjoy the view of her or his eyes. Nice, OP! To add to this, the fact that you're sitting back, makes it easier to actively listen to the one(s) …
/r/seduction06/07/15 04:21 AM
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The thing was that I never even knew about the ex. We met at a party and hung out the whole time, hung out the next night and ended up spending the night together, then hung out another time. You didn't literally know about it, but if you look back, there were most likely signs that something was going on with her. It may take some time to recognize those signs, but they were probably there. Girls who are still hung up on another guy, have numerous tells. The fact that she genuinely was into me …
/r/seduction06/07/15 04:18 AM
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Do most girls in the US use Tinder for sex and FWBs? Or is it mostly random where some girls are looking for that, but many girls are also looking for serious dating relationships, too? It's definitely a case by case basis, and the percentages will vary according to city. Out of curiosity, is it okay to ask which metro area are you in? People here may have opinions or takes on your region if they're familiar with it. But in general, yeah, some will look for relationships, just sex, FWB, and some…
/r/seduction06/07/15 04:07 AM
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....I just heard from Seddit, again, that having the details made out is more effective..... Just take it all with a grain of salt. Not everyone at Seddit knows what they're talking about. There are some veterans here who are unlabeled, but you can generally place some weight on words dropped here by the mods. But even our words, you should be weighing against your own experiences as you learn and try new things. YMMV.
/r/seduction06/07/15 03:52 AM
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I wanted to go out again to make sure I wasn't giving up on a good chance. Listen to yourself. You JUST said that you felt she was a friend and that you weren't that interested. First impressions matter. People (girl or guy) know quickly, often within minutes, whether they want more to happen with someone. If you felt as you did and weren't lying, then you were not giving up on a "good chance." You need to learn to trust yourself. The fact that you could even report the things you were reporting…
/r/seduction06/07/15 03:49 AM
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I think it's mostly because i have no idea what to do but also sometimes i feel like i don't deserve it or am not worthy for some reason. ..........i feel like i cant talk to them about this as they think i'm not a virgin. Information is power. Before you do something important like take a driver's license test, you study and practice, right? So you could be doing the same here and it would help a lot. Arm yourself with information and you'll feel better. What information? There's no reason you …
/r/seduction06/07/15 03:18 AM
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Lets say her names Janice. Janice was in my Spanish class and she really stood out to me, she wasn't a model but she was my type. You don't have to justify it to me. People have a type. Be thankful that you are self-aware enough that you understand and recognize yours. Do you realize that Seddit is littered with people who are posting about all sorts of problems that develop because they don't know what they even like in a girl?! I texted her a few days later and we had a conversation that went …
/r/seduction06/07/15 02:52 AM
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Note: the details of when you asked her out and for what date, matter very little, unless you're talking about asking her out on the same date. Asking about Monday instead of Saturday..... DOESN'T MATTER. If she wants to hang, she'll help you make it happen. It's that simple. All asking her does is show confidence and interest, and then she'll either say yes or she'll help you make it happen another day.
/r/seduction06/07/15 02:24 AM
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The two options girl: ..... I wasn't that interested in her, she seemed more like a friend and wasn't that attractive to me in person. End of story. I don't understand why you'd sweat her if your instincts were feeling this way. No loss here.
/r/seduction06/07/15 02:21 AM
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What to do if her friend likes you? Does her friend liking you mean that you have to pursue her? You're not a robot that does anything others want you to do, right? You're a person with preferences who hopefully doesn't think that they only requirement for sleeping with someone is that they want it. As such, the primary thing here is who YOU have interest in. But simply being presented with a girl who likes you doesn't mean you have to go there. Now if you are describing a situation where you ha…
/r/seduction06/07/15 02:14 AM
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I gt feelings after hanging out a few times with a girl who ultimately went back to her ex. Not ideal Ouch. I've been there. You need to have these kinds of experiences to "level up." Having these kinds of bad experiences gives you a good reference point and helps you avoid such girls in the future. Because knowing that you shouldn't be attached to a girl who is "at risk" of going back to her ex because she's still into him, is one thing. But exercising control over your emotions is another thin…
/r/seduction06/07/15 01:44 AM
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she was hesitant so I replied with something along the lines of " I'm gay (which I'm not) so if you don't kiss him, I will" this made the group laugh Funny move, actually..... .....the other two girls talked to me about me being gay, What did the girls actually say and do? This is kind of a big thing to leave out. i tried to do things like kino , using time contraints and telling them i'm actually bi, but I couldn't get a kiss close from either of them. Girls have pretty good gaydar. So you prob…
/r/seduction06/07/15 01:40 AM
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Hi guys, my problem is a bit different i guess... Not so different, actually. ;) I am a very dedicated to work and study med student, i love the university, my dream is to become a very good doctor and university professor. Good for you! It's good for your life (and by extension, "game"), when you have things going on and you're going in a direction! BUT that's not interesting to the girls I go out with... What do you mean? Why are you coming to this conclusion? Hopefully, this doesn't mean that…
/r/seduction06/07/15 01:26 AM
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I thought most people stopped giving a shit and cut people like that out of their lives past mid twenties? It's not like you get older and magically people stop being douches. As long as OP is cutting this guy off, it's not his problem. He wasn't the guy throwing his buddy under the bus. And it's not like getting older prevents you from meeting such people.
/r/seduction06/07/15 01:09 AM
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I feel like my hookups have ultimately been unsatisfying.... It sounds like you are going about this with less care about what you want. A lot of guys who just close because they can, will have this problem if they hook up with girls that they're not really connecting with. Another issue can be that you don't want hook-ups but something more, and are unintentionally scaring away more serious prospects with an approach that's geared too heavily towards short term girls. and not recovered my confi…
/r/seduction06/07/15 12:55 AM
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I felt as if making another time would be pushy and make her think I was desperate or something. I can understand this feeling. Sometimes expressing yourself confidently can feel like you're being pushy. And anxiety or fear can definitely make you feel uncomfortable when you're trying something you don't normally do. Maybe this is what's going on in your head? In any case, let's look at this closer. If a girl I ask out says she can't hang out on Saturday or has to cancel, etc., then I would have…
/r/seduction06/07/15 12:45 AM
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I thought I was the shit until this incident. And what a fucking blunder I turned out to be. Cut yourself some slack. Life is a learning process. I was blunt because you seemed to be glossing over some things, but EVERYone makes mistakes in dating. We all have mistakes that we regret but we have to make those before we know better. The methods I'd been using were totally not recalibrated to match her emotions. Like you said, I guess I just push push pushed. Didn't get the reaction I wanted, and …
/r/seduction05/07/15 06:12 PM
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We were both still kind of gauging each other. I guess as a man, I was pussy-footing around like a dumbass, afraid of commitment because I was juggling a few other girls at the time. Realize that, if this girl truly mattered, then you would have had no problem dropping those other girls. You ought to question if your motivation here isn't the thrill of the hunt..... the challenge. Taking longer to respond than she would, and I started going apeshit on my own social media site that she follows me…
/r/seduction05/07/15 04:55 PM
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I was giving an example, I have many other instances this happens with other girls. I get what you mean by me being wishy washy but at the same time I thought I'd seem too desperate and/or available if I picked another day. No. It's certainty.....confidence.... to pick another day. Then you really see where she's at. If she says she wanted to reschedule, you assume that she meant that. Then when you suggest an alternative date, you'll find out if she really meant it. I always thought if they don…
/r/seduction05/07/15 04:35 PM
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Then I found this woman. 5 years older than me. Flowers at the library. Date. Got to meet her better and realized she's a lot like me. Her way of thinking. Her logicality. Her reasoning. So it was easy. I enchanted her and fucked her in the car. So far, so good. It's nice to meet people you connect with in such a way. Ever since, something changed. I started losing my skills. I started losing my personality, my deductional abilities, my "I know what you're thinking". Other things changed. I star…
/r/seduction05/07/15 10:33 AM
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One of the girls thinks I'm gay lol. How did she start in on that? I tell her multiple times I'm not gay but I laugh everytime afterwards so I probably confuse the shit of her and she doesn't believe me. You probably took the wrong approach in thinking you had to prove shit to that girl. Anytime that kind of thing comes up, you should be able to ignore it OR simply break out the standard, "Sure, I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body." You don't need to prove shit, but having fun with it is fine.…
/r/seduction05/07/15 10:27 AM
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Honestly it feels pretty immature to me. Like bullshit HS games but for adults. It would be more honest to have someone say something upfront than play the "it's gonna take me 20 hours to reply to you" strategy Do what you feel. It does sound immature. I don't "ghost" in the early stages of dating. I just ask girls out. If they don't respond, I next them. However if something is really unhealthy, I may ghost out if it's really complicated to get ahold of some girl. But by and large, communicatin…
/r/seduction05/07/15 10:17 AM
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As a virgin, how do I turn the conversation sexual/express my sexuality? Look, this is one of the biggest misconceptions that keeps making the rounds. You DON'T need to "turn the conversation sexual." At ALL. Some guys do it, but they're more advanced, to be honest and they can compensate for the problems that overtly talking about sex can cause if done before you have sex. However, you DO need to express your sexuality through actions. Escalation. Kino. You can talk about sex or whatever all da…
/r/seduction05/07/15 10:09 AM
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Based on my post, why would you think I'd feel okay having sex with someone the first night I meet them? That's not what he said. He distinctly asked, "How does sex and intimacy work (for you?" if things are going well with some dude you go out with. How do things escalate? Have you ever had sex? If so, how did that work out? How did it develop?
/r/seduction05/07/15 09:56 AM
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There are these guys who try to talk to me and put their hands all over my body, and it freaks me out! I know it's a seduction tactic and I would like to get to know them better, but it will take a little bit for me to feel comfortable with them. No, it's NOT a seduction tactic. It's guys who don't know what the hell they're doing. If a guy is trying to "escalate" as it's called, then he's paying attention to your state as he gets in your space. If he starts trying to "turn the temperature up" a…
/r/seduction05/07/15 09:54 AM
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The day before she texts me giving me a reason about why she has to cancel and throws in "Possibly another day?" I just say no worries and maybe some other day. Look, I'm going to zoom this out because you're getting specific to a girl, which belongs in AskSeddit. If a girl cancels AND she has a good reason (what was her reason?), then you should reschedule soon, if not then. When she cancels, don't say, "no worries and then go wishy washy with some vague comment about some other day. Just ask o…
/r/seduction05/07/15 09:41 AM
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Before I begin, I know this is a pickup, one night stand, dating, sexual intercourse sort of reddit and not exactly about love (correct me if im wrong, this is just what i'v taken from here). Not entirely correct. This reddit is about self-improvement and basically social skills. Because at it's heart, "seduction" is just knowing how to be successful socially. You use the same skills to make friends, that you use to get laid. It's only mindsets and thought patterns that create barriers and makes…
/r/seduction04/07/15 03:14 PM
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All good, it's over before it had the chance to begin. Why? You called it off? In any event, in something like this, her intentions don't matter as much as her reactions to YOUR intentions. So this business of trying to figure her out first, doesn't help you. But off-hand, it sounds like she wanted something serious. (Granted you left a LOT of information out and you're apparently bailing on the thread. I don't know what you expected when you're not supplying any information.)
/r/seduction04/07/15 02:52 PM
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My take is that the quickest way to the friend zone is being a good listener. Wrong. Being a good listener is absolutely VITAL to game. The quickest path to the friend zone is not having the balls to escalate/make moves. Period. So go ahead, both barrels, what am I doing wrong? This isn't the first time. Doing wrong with what? You've literally done nothing besides post an incorrect theory. Tip: If you're about to ask about a specific girl, post it to Ask Seddit or post it to the Simple Questions…
/r/seduction04/07/15 12:15 PM
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Removing this because it's a wall of text and because of the wild misinterpretation of such an important term like Outcome Independence.
/r/seduction04/07/15 12:11 PM
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Outcome-independence is being a lazy creep. And it doesn't work. Uh, no, it isn't "being a lazy creep." But yes, being a lazy creep wouldn't work. these inner game concepts make sense if you're a wildly socially anxious person with a bad self-esteem..... Uh, no. Being mindful, attacking negative thoughts, being confident, those things are good for anyone. This night is the logical conclusion of "outcome-independence" - solipsistic sexual harassment and self-obsession....... What are you talking …
/r/seduction04/07/15 12:08 PM
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I asked if she wanted to do something like this again to which she replied sure, but what do you think of us as. Future reference, it'll go smoother if you just ask her more specifically. Like sometime during the date, establish what her interests are and ask her for a follow-up at a specific time. But as for her.... jeez man.... What she said was rather insecure and awkward. That doesn't bother you? That she can't just go with the flow? My response was that we're friends, but it's to see how it…
/r/seduction04/07/15 11:54 AM
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How to determine if a girl is actually interested or not? Point of order: It's "How do you determine if a girl is actually interested or not? Minus the question mark, your phrasing was as if you were offering a "How To" guide. But as for how? You seem to be focused on determining interest before action is taken. This is impossible, really. At least with girls worth getting to. What you do is determine if YOU are interested. Then you start a discovery process to find out if the girl is actually w…
/r/seduction04/07/15 11:49 AM
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We've only had one "date" and she told me that blah blah she likes me but in order to develop feelings she has to go out with them a lot of times. How did this even come up? I have a feeling that you were pushing the conversation into some needy areas if this even came up. Because it shouldn't have come up. I honestly don't know what her intentions are. Help? Why ask us? And you haven't told us anything, so there's no way for any of us to make a solid determination. How about this, you make deci…
/r/seduction04/07/15 10:48 AM
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I've had a lot of oppertunities to have sex, and kiss women, but won't. Every time I get fucking nervous because I think they will realize I've never done either. Girls don't sit there thinking, "This guy must be a virgin." Unless you sit there worrying that they'll know, which will lead to you freezing up and bringing about the very thing you're worried about. First order of business: Educate yourself. There's no excuse to not be educated on all matters related to sex. Foreplay. Sexual position…
/r/seduction03/07/15 08:51 AM
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Background: unemployed directionless 23 year old, kissless virgin....Last night, I had a extremely vivid dream about being intimate with my big crush from way back in high school. I wake up and have spent the whole day being pretty depressed and anxious. But now I'm thinking what the fuck, why am I still hung up on this girl from years ago? Think about this: it might not even be about the girl, but what the dream represents. I'd take a wild stab and say that this dream represents wasted chances …
/r/seduction03/07/15 04:12 AM
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An alpha male is the dominant male in a particular group of people. Problem with this definition: it requires comparison against a group of people when true strength doesn't require such a thing. Guys who play at being "alpha" are really wanting to be independently confident. But sadly, many guys decide that being alpha means that they must constantly be visibly on top and in charge of a group. When really, the guy in charge isn't always flexing. It's not always the guy who "appears in charge." …
/r/seduction03/07/15 12:53 AM
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One thing I've been experimenting with are direct sexual openers, ie just going up and saying Hi and then basically within the first minute, you know what you're beautiful, what are you up to right now? With piercing eye contact and a slight smirk. I know that the odds of this working to get sex are vanishingly small, but for me the purpose is more to grow the balls of steel required to own your sexuality and become proud to be a man who wants sex. While it's good for you to push yourself..... r…
/r/seduction02/07/15 01:24 PM
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......on the verge of a one night stand with a girl this hot? .......Anyway, there suddenly came a point where she squares up to me and I realize she expects me to kiss her. In the middle of the entire bar. Right in front of the other jealous looking guy friend she was talking to before she met me. And in that moment....I spontaneously grew and vagina. I froze. I hesitated, didn't pull the trigger, and killed the attraction, just like that. Couple things here..... Just because she is ready for s…
/r/seduction26/06/15 02:14 PM
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And I do agree people have a say when it comes to what your emotions do with you, so saying "I can't do this because I am scared" is bullshit. You can have very strong feelings and then do something that opposes this emotion (eg. being scared shitless and then approaching). Thus your action are not controlled by your emotions. I guess I would clarify in this kind of situation, that even the identification of the emotion can be up in the air. Like you may get a surge of adrenaline, and then assig…
/r/seduction24/06/15 11:39 AM
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Openers are easy but im always lost after the opener. What helps you guys think of what to say after an ice breaker? Like FrozenFirebat said, conversations aren't routines. You don't NEED to create a conversation from start to finish. It's pretty much difficult to impossible to do so. What you do is LISTEN to the person you're talking to. Actively. And when they stop talking, then you think about a reply (a comment or a question) based on what they JUST said. Rinse and repeat. No need for a rout…
/r/seduction23/06/15 08:00 AM
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Then we went to my place, smoked a joint and everything was going smooth UNTIL she started talking about her ex (my partner), long story short, it seems like she has not gotten over him yet. Keep in mind that mj can kind of screw with your game if the girl involved becomes a big "thinker" while high. Next time, a better rationale to be at your place might be drinks and a movie or something. I tried my best to ignore this, we talk some more, and then I drop her off. This is sometimes the best you…
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:57 AM
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As I was driving him home, he mentioned that I did not initiate enough physical contact- and he was right. That girl and I might have connected in a good way but I certainly did not "touch" enough. Yes, hugging does count but I know I'm lacking and I'm not sure exactly where. Take his "advice" with a grain of salt. You were the one talking to that girl. You were the one best suited to know exactly how much contact she wanted. Now assuming that you didn't expect to escalate to sex on the first me…
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:48 AM
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Interestingly enough, rejection I can handle. I've accepted that not every woman is going to like me. My concern is doing something that makes me look like the "bad guy" when all I was trying to do was commnunicate an interest. You're hedging man. What you've just communicated is a form of rejection fear. Or approach anxiety, for sure. Your choice is to do something or do nothing. Up to you. But simply talking to a girl, will not make you look like a bad guy. Now if you talk to her, get in there…
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:39 AM
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So I'm dancing and this hot chick turns around and gives me a deep stare and starts dancing in front of me for like 2 minutes and starts shaking her hips and turns back every like 20 seconds to stare at me some more. You learn to identify this kind of attention whore. Some girls do this kind of thing but actually want you to come get some. The kind of experience you've just had, is part of the learning process that will allow you to tell the difference between the two kinds of girls. My female f…
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:36 AM
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This is inaccurate and incomplete. Feelings are going to happen, you can't control that. But as incompletely covered on the other end of the link, you actually can exert control over your emotions in a couple of ways. You can choose how you react to a feeling, emotion, sensation. You determine the value or meaning of it. This enables you to exert control over feelings. People think that they have no say in it when their emotions leave them attracted to someone who's bad for them. They just conti…
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:27 AM
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Honestly, the link would have been better pointed towards that infographic that's cited in the article. It actually summarizes the better parts of the article, synthesizing information/advice from the "dating experts" and the "pickup artists," finding common ground that's actually pretty profound and comparing good advice like "be present" and "don't be outcome dependent," from both angles. As for the article itself, there is garbage in it, but much of it..... is stuff that the veterans here are…
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:01 AM
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Can you help me understand how to talk with guys and with girls. I am straight but it seems that I look to talk only with girls which comes as needy signal. I am not homophobic but I don't wanna come off as gay when trying to talk to guys. The big thing when talking to anyone is to pay attention. To the situation. To the people. To every small detail. The clothes people are wearing. The things they are doing. Your awareness can only be on these things if you are pushing your awareness into the w…
/r/seduction22/06/15 11:11 AM
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So i am getting started at almost 30. Doesn't really matter. We all get started at different ages. Other set i didn't bother to open because girls looked like 22. Anyway, felt bad that i should have talked with them. This was you making an excuse not to open. And you knew that because you felt bad later for not having talked to them. I went out again on Saturday. Got drink at bar 1 to warm up. No IOI. Look, if you go to a public place and don't interact with anyone except if they are attractive …
/r/seduction22/06/15 05:16 AM
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I want to go out, I just don't like the idea of going out alone, because everyone else at the bars are with other people, and I don't feel comfortable approaching groups. Fair enough. So you can work it out in baby steps. Go to places at night that feature some activity and talk to people around that activity. Pool, darts, partner dancing, whatever does it for you. I feel like a creep or a loser. This is the way you choose to frame it. If you're having a good time, and you approach someone, then…
/r/seduction22/06/15 04:52 AM
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.....but are you sincerely advocating avoiding a target-rich environment literally packed with women who often are there looking for guys just because you wouldn't like it if they weren't there? No. Not because of discomfort that the girls are at the club. I'd advocate not gaming at the club for ANY guy who doesn't actually like the activities in a club. If one hates dancing and hates loud music, then it's simple, don't go to a club. Being at a place you hate is going to be terrible for your min…
/r/seduction21/06/15 11:23 PM
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Tell me honestly you believe more than 10% of guys hooking up on your average club dancefloor will say "actually I'm here because I sincerely love dancing and ear-rapingly loud EDM; the sweaty girls grinding on me are just a bonus really" Tell me that you've heard of inner game. Tell me that you realize that outcome independence helps game. Because going to a place where you enjoy the activity for it's own sake, helps outcome independence. Whether or not more than 10% of the average club going m…
/r/seduction21/06/15 12:54 PM
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On the dance floor, girls are usually dancing in a circle with their friends and I'm unable to break into that. Even if I did manage to get her attention after dancing near her for awhile, shouting into her ear when she probably won't understand what I'm saying is a lost cause and becomes very awkward. Pair that with the fact that I'm an average dancer at best and it isn't the most ideal situation. Maybe the difficulty is because TALKING isn't the way to approach in a venue that's built around n…
/r/seduction21/06/15 03:35 AM
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What I was trying to say in my original post is that walking up to a random girl on the street, and start smalltalk is too weird and scary for me at the moment, Was that the low level thing they suggested? :| That's not actually the lowest level to start. unless we are in an environment where that happening would be more natural, like in a bar or the common area in a hostel. So in this context What do you actually talk about with those people? And how do you come up with things to say? That's wh…
/r/seduction21/06/15 03:28 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean with the thicker text here, They were questions. Which you could read as well as anyone. You can answer them or not. If you choose not to answer them, then you can forget about getting a decent reply because you have left it unclear as to what your "level" actually is. but yeah, I'm probably thinking too much, but saying just do it isn't helping me. Are you trolling? You have larger problems if you read two questions, and somehow arrived at a point that wasn't stated o…
/r/seduction21/06/15 02:15 AM
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....Honestly I fucked up on that from the start, should have introduced myself on day 1 but now since I didn't we just awkwardly make eye contact. NO NO NO. Like Throwaway said..... You don't even need to assume that it has to be an introduction. You're going to far ahead even to assume that you need to do this much. Because what happens is that you think you need an opening and an amount of time necessary to get that introduction in there. Or whatever you assume needs to happen. You just look a…
/r/seduction20/06/15 04:20 AM
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So basically there's this girl that I realllly like. She's probably the funniest person I've ever met. We get on super well, we've already slept together ..... Wait. You've already had sex with her? And you hang out with her often? Perhaps you're over-thinking this a bit if you think you can get that far and you still have something to prove? However, our texts are pretty dull, as we only really text to talk about when to hang out. Dude, this is nothing. You've apparently exchanged bodily fluids…
/r/seduction20/06/15 04:12 AM
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Ah well, it was better to find out that way than to not find out at all I guess... I'd actually contend that this is untrue. He didn't really find out what you think he did. This business of putting the poem up didn't show him whether she liked him or not. It showed how she reacted to the awkwardness of his approach. And I'd say that she had a rather human response to it.
/r/seduction20/06/15 04:00 AM
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this is a problem I find myself confronted with pretty often lately. And what does this problem look like, actually? You've actually said nothing about this. Like what is the problem, and how does it progress, and when?
/r/seduction20/06/15 03:54 AM
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Problem is, it's start off with something I'm having a hard time with, smalltalk with strangers. You're thinking too much. What are you coming up with to ask them? And how do you come up with that question?
/r/seduction19/06/15 05:12 PM
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First off, NO. These aren't accurate representations of the actual schools of thought. Though they do represent the choices that rookies THINK they have when they start. They often think that they have to be a machine and grind their way through girls and that they have to "show interest" by verbalizing things that they don't need to. They often think that escalation is on some kind of universal timer, etc. And the popular view before guys get more experience, is that the alternative to being a …
/r/seduction19/06/15 06:36 AM
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Sometimes i smile too much . Too much? You should smile when you WANT. That's it. If you don't something funny or amusing or it doesn't inspire you to smile, then DON'T smile. You don't need to. But that doesn't mean that you have a choice between smile and frowny serious pants face. I think it hurts my chances. If you are straining to smile, that's fake and the worst kind of compliance. Sometimes im just chatting away smiling laughing forget to do the sexual tension or the kino on the first dat…
/r/seduction19/06/15 06:18 AM
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A question I don't see in this sub , This thread is reborn at least once or twice a month. ;) Sasha has a great method of going direct, but I feel it only suits people of a certain personality, a person who truly accentuates the cocky-funny type while exuding self-confidence. FWIW, I agree. Many ways you could go "direct," are more suitable to certain personalities, while others may take more to a James Marshall style that's still confident but more low key. What do you guys think? I feel it wou…
/r/seduction19/06/15 06:10 AM
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The girls that eye me, I notice, are quite not my taste (they're a little fat) I'm probably just a choosy asshole, Cut this shit out. As long as you aren't running around insulting people, there is NOTHING wrong with having a preference. Some guys might like a chunkier girl, but you don't have to. And this isn't middle school so you don't have to answer to someone for liking slimmer girls. but I never did love myself to give anyone a chance. Albeit, I'm also a self deprecating virgin too, so I d…
/r/seduction19/06/15 05:58 AM
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What is the knocking a girl off the fence principle? The point that the mod was hinting at is that you're perhaps too focused on a fancy name for some idea that isn't quite worth focusing on its own because it takes care of itself if you are handing the fundamentals correctly. That is what im,talking about would you do to force a decision? Like show her you like her and make her choose one way or the other? Your word choice implies a mentality that you do not need AT ALL. You don't "force" decis…
/r/seduction17/06/15 11:11 PM
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He's taller and more attractive. Irrelevant. Looks don't close the deal for ANYone. Does hanging out with a more attractive guy help out your chances? No. This is like asking if someone taking the SATs for you can help YOUR score. In the end, each person can only take their own test. You have to close for yourself. Just because you have some dude next to you, isn't going to help YOU handle your end of things.
/r/seduction15/06/15 01:42 PM
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Example: Go to the grocery store and look at how perfect all the fruit look. People judge quality of a red apple by how shiny/red it is, even though it doesn't really dictate quality; if you put out odd looking red apples that are less shiny/red, people would be less willing to take that apple home and eat it, despite it being in season + fresh = Appearance. People judge bottles of wine by the price & brand; Where its produced from and the higher the price dictates the quality, which isn't entir…
/r/seduction14/06/15 04:01 PM
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Well.. I'll still probably be really shy and make really bad conversation. I'm worried that I'll seem boring or lame. The thing about conversation is that the skill required isn't to be exciting. The important skill is to be present. And you're present when you are paying attention. That's it. And another thing, don't wait to set up a meet on Tinder. Girls don't match you on Tinder to start being pen pals. So if you haven't suggested a meet up yet, figure out something to do or a place to go tha…
/r/seduction09/06/15 10:59 PM
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The strange thing about this (beyond, you know.... me being 19) is that I've had six girlfriends. A mixture of long distance and really short relationships have conspired to leave me dateless. "Date" is a meaningless term. If you've had girlfriends before than a date will be less difficult
/r/seduction09/06/15 05:32 PM
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How do you beat the "out of my league" feeling, even if you objectively know that she really is hotter than you are? You gather enough reference experiences to realize that "leagues" have less to do with appearance, and more to do with mindset. Just like how you are confining yourself to a lower "league" based almost solely on your confidence.
/r/seduction09/06/15 05:20 PM
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I would love to see how to talk to girls in groups in bars , clubs. Also, how do you initiate conversation when they are with other guys. Examples are not as helpful as the overall attitude and approach. The most important thing is to pay attention to the moment and everything going on...everything everyone is doing. When you do that, you'll see interesting opportunities to comment on something and join a conversation or even a group. That said, I'll supply an example, but it won't give you mate…
/r/seduction09/06/15 10:16 AM
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This post is being removed because it is too vague. I suggest you re-post but with an actual post in the body of text. More information is better. You're not doing anyone any favors by stripping it down to a title with 14 words.
/r/seduction09/06/15 10:04 AM
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I knew I was ugly, but damn, this crushed me. Cut this out. What they did wasn't about your looks. It was about your confidence and their own insecurity. Maybe someone could tell me how to overcome and forget that? Best way is to screen better. If she seemed irritated, then you shut it down because no one is worth that kind of crap. You don't stick around someone who's displaying that kind of shitty attitude, anymore than you'd continue hanging out with someone who insists on insulting you. Whic…
/r/seduction09/06/15 10:03 AM
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I always flat out say no to bringing her friends. It is her I want to meet. I think bringing her friends will ruin my chances of getting close to the girl. I think it's a shit test, or the girl is being nervous. Couple of things here: If she's nervous, why would you be a dick about her asking to bring friends that would help make her comfortable and readier to open up? Why would you pass up the resource of her friends? They can give valuable information about the girl, in the things they say and…
/r/seduction09/06/15 07:47 AM
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How do you overcome your fear of creepiness? I don't have fear of creepiness. Seduction is, at its heart, merely socializing. Is it creepy to go up and talk to a guy? How about an old lady? So then what is so creepy about talking to a girl? Oh, it's just because you think she might figure out that you find her attractive? What if a girl found you attractive? Would that be creepy? Let me ask you a related question. Say that you walk into a farmers' market and you want to buy zucchinis. Let's say …
/r/seduction09/06/15 07:40 AM
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Like, the only reason they're even a thing is because a friend of his told her that he had feelings for her, and the only reason they're not officially dating is because he's too scared to ask her out! I asked her why she's still bothering and she said that she thought his nervousness and awkwardness was cute. Look, this won't last if he doesn't find his nuts. If he doesn't find it in himself to pull the trigger, she'll move on. Period. She's probably young to be putting up with it this much, an…
/r/seduction09/06/15 07:35 AM
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I know this, yes, so how should I play the game even though the rules are different? Well, you can continue to be blatant about sexual things, and basically screen out most girls except the ones with baggage. Or you can drop the dirty jokes and take a more subtle approach. Hang out, have a good time, perhaps in groups. Exchange contact information with a girl you want to see about, preferably before you've known her longer than a month or two. Then you ask her to hang out. Getting kino in there …
/r/seduction09/06/15 06:20 AM
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I don't want her to be thinking "Jesus I want to get laid, he had no problem fucking this other girl, why won't he make a move with me?" or whatever, Think about what you're saying here. When someone wants sex but isn't concerned with anything serious, this is how they think. Why would you try to cater to this then? Do you really want something serious? Then you shouldn't give a shit if she thinks like this: you should be screening out girls who don't want what you want. And if the girl can't ha…
/r/seduction09/06/15 02:35 AM
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I have a related question, I want input from some of you guys. I was just in rehab and I met two girls. Side-note: Were they also in rehab? Because it might not be too good of an idea to hang with other addicts. I realize I really am into girl b so I start hanging out with her. She's very attractive and she does want to get laid, but something tells me to hold off for a bit and get to know her. Is this ever a bad idea? Depends on what you want. If you want something serious, then you know as wel…
/r/seduction08/06/15 11:22 PM
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When I'm with close friends or people from an international/western background, I could switch it up and make some really dirty jokes and innuendoes. However, the problem arises when I interact with my classmates (I'm nineteen) in college. Whenever I make a sexual joke, only my bros laugh, but everyone else just frowns and hence there is an awkward silence. I can't help but feel that it's not possible to be a sexual person (which I am) while being calibrated to this setting. You're in luck, the …
/r/seduction08/06/15 12:53 PM
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Should think about this one, im really a bad dancer. haha So was I. I was afraid of it, actually. I can honestly say though, that I made it a goal to defeat this fear, and took dance classes until I not only overcame my fear, but got pretty good at it. I've seen people who walk like Frankenstein, change the way they move and become good dancers. Unless you have a physical deformity, dancing can be learned.
/r/seduction08/06/15 12:27 PM
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I have had sex before. All prostitutes though. I never had FWB or one night stand let alone relationship. I will be 30 in 4 months. Is it too late to start game ? To clarify one thing, whatever you may think of "seduction......" at its heart, all it really is, is being social. So it's never too late.
/r/seduction08/06/15 12:22 PM
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Hobbies should be to please you. Not to make you more interesting for other people. That said, few things beat partner dancing as a hobby You are out in a crowd that's often welcoming to new guys because the ratio is low on guys. And developing good dance skills with a partner, requires you develop skills that are quite useful for seduction.
/r/seduction08/06/15 12:19 PM
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I'm sensing that she is feeling guilt for this now as she just got out of a relationship. I really like this girl and would like to make her a steady relationship...how do I keep her guilt from killing the vibe? Dude, this is standard operating procedure for many girls. They like sex as much as guys, but they have to go about it differently than we can. If they just go charging in like guys, they'll deal with negative consequences, both socially and internally (with their self-image). So nothing…
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:29 AM
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As for your question, you don't need to tell her that. When the bill comes, you go for your money. Do so slowly. She'll either go for hers or she won't. Then her behavior determines whether or not she gets another date, right? Most girls will move to pay their half without you having to do something tacky like telling them to. If she doesn't, then I guess you could tell her but this also means that you might not want a second date, on principle.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:19 AM
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Next time, actually post something in the body of your report. Don't make people fish for details and then leave those details scattered throughout the thread. EDIT them into the OP.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:17 AM
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I'm above average at daygame because naturally I'm an introvert, Out of curiosity, why do you think being introverted helps you be "above average" at day game? but when it comes to night game, I can't calibrate. How do I get my energy right? You've said absolutely nothing about what your day game or night game look like. What's your approach at night look like now? Opener? What do you talk about? How do you come up with things to say? Off-hand, I'd say that you probably aren't taking care of you…
/r/seduction06/06/15 12:24 PM
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I have always been "the funny guy" mainly because I like to make people laugh, but also because I gave me some approval. There's no reason to cut out your sense of humor. It's just important to be aware of your motivations for it and not fall into the trap of being dependent on it for reaffirming who you are as a person. but the problem is that after a while the conversation gets kind of dull and there is abolutly no sexual tention between me and the girl at all. I mean we can keep talking and h…
/r/seduction06/06/15 12:19 PM
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So I turned 21 last week and as the youngest person in my circle of friends, my older friends were desperate to introduce me to the college bar scene. Sounds cool, as long as they take care of you..... ;) My first reactions to college bars at Purdue University was that they were super crowded and way too loud......I can't get past the amount of people. This is a natural reaction to bars and clubs. There seems to be a decent amount of opportunity for game, It's true. And the environment makes it …
/r/seduction04/06/15 08:29 AM
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Assuming her place isn't an option, Why? This would be an incorrect assumption. and I still live with parents until study is over (expensive, don't ask) which will take approx another 18 months. You don't need to justify anything to us. Thinking a hotel or B&B to get for the night, which of these are cheapest. Can you just book a single room, and still bring a girl back for a one night stand? Honestly, if you try to book something for the night, just do it for your own sake. If you try to do it …
/r/seduction04/06/15 07:58 AM
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So I just turned 21 a couple weeks ago. Now that school has calmed down, I have time to go out. Bars seem like a good place to meet new people but the whole scene is confusing to me. What I am asking is, how do I bar? What are some tips/protocols when hitting the bar? I am tall and decently attractive for perspective. I live in Seattle. Your age doesn't matter. The place doesn't matter too much either. The point is that bars are places to talk to strangers and/or enjoy a drink with friends. Bars…
/r/seduction04/06/15 07:54 AM
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The other thing I'd add to this list is the heightened awareness of your surroundings and the woman in front of you, that dancing requires.
/r/seduction03/06/15 11:06 PM
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I have no problem building attraction, holding conversations, etc; I just can't ask a girl out for the life of me. I don't know what to say, and where to potentially take her. Look, this is both simpler and more complex than you think. All you have to do is PAY ATTENTION to the girl. She'll hand you all the information you need to figure out where you might take her. As for how to frame it when you "ask her out," there is one strong way to frame it when you ask her out. You set it up where you a…
/r/seduction03/06/15 08:51 AM
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So in SF its heavily biased culture against some races. Let's just face and accept it. Bullshit. Unless it's against white people, which I doubt. There isn't a race in the Bay Area, hell, in most of the US, that doesn't enjoy some special attention from people of the opposite sex who have a fetish for that race. Someone I am able to get the girls number but either it does not convert into date..... Some of this is natural, some of this is due to a poor approach before you've number closed. But s…
/r/seduction03/06/15 08:43 AM
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Thanks for the response. Its just so innefficient. Ive opened maybe 25 ladies in the last month in all kinds of settings. Some are feeling it some not, of those who have been feeling it 2 were married, a couple lost steam before the first date etc etc. I need a way to streamline who i focus on or does that not exist. Prescreening is not the issue. In fact, prescreening is fear-based and a waste of time, largely. The only prescreening you ought to be concerned with is, does this girl seem attract…
/r/seduction03/06/15 08:36 AM
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Partner dancing. You are in a mixed group. They're usually short on men. And the skills you learn to be a good leader, double as skills that make you better at "seduction." /thread. :P (Kidding!)
/r/seduction03/06/15 05:39 AM
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Seddit seems often to be a one sized fits all thing. No it doesn't. The newbs think it's a one-size-fits-all thing. I dont buy that. I think with a little tweaking, you can be attractive to someone who wouldnt consider you, and duh that's why were all here right? Assume attraction, sure. (Which really just means, work on yourself until you can be confident in what you have to offer the world.) But there will always be a segment of the population that finds you attractive and a segment that does …
/r/seduction03/06/15 05:36 AM
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I second what this guy is saying.
/r/seduction03/06/15 05:29 AM
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I'd say I'm currently doing like... 10 minutes of attraction, then 10 minutes of comfort, then number-closing. There is no hard time limit here! You can't go in with some concrete time in mind or you're shooting yourself in the foot. You go in and enjoy yourself. If you're not enjoying talking to her, then eject. If you are enjoying talking to her, keep doing it and number close her when you or she decides to leave. Hell, if things are going well enough, you shouldn't even be assuming number clo…
/r/seduction03/06/15 05:26 AM
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Removing this because there isn't a relevant question posted; it's a poll question in a title with no context or meat in the actual post.
/r/seduction03/06/15 04:55 AM
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That's a great observation. To some extent, I agree completely. But then again, I've hooked up with girls over Tinder on the first date and got her to like me before we even met. First off, Tinder is a completely different animal than going out and meeting a girl and getting a number. If you meet her on Tinder, the point is to establish that you can pass the Turing Test, aren't creepy, are confident or fun, etc., then set up a meet. People aren't on Tinder to make pen pals. Going out and getting…
/r/seduction03/06/15 04:53 AM
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Question though, if you are fully secure with yourself, do you not get these twinges of jealousy or insecurities at all? Like I said above, those feelings are natural and it's not that you move past having them at all. Because that would require becoming a sociopath. It's about how you deal with those things when they come up. If you have built a good foundation, you'll be able to talk yourself back down when these things come up. Those things I listed above, are some of the things I remind myse…
/r/seduction02/06/15 11:43 PM
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..... If you are the DJ okay that won't hurt at all, but just being in the VIP room alone isn't going to help anything unless you happen to find the stupidest and shallowest woman in your city. That's not even misogynistic or anything, I am giving women much more credit than I think you are. I guess it was overly wordy, but some of the tactics listed in the article actually SAVE money. Get to know the staff, bring your friends, bring a good attitude, and you're making the venue money, which make…
/r/seduction02/06/15 05:51 PM
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This article is garbage. You can easily throw over a thousand dollars away following this advice. You're heavily oversimplifying this. The basic idea of social game......social proof...... The advantages of employing such things is not something that can be argued against. Going in and making friends with the staff at a venue like a bar, is easy and doesn't have to break the bank. It's not necessary to go to the same place every weekend and it's kind of lame if you really think about it. No one …
/r/seduction02/06/15 05:40 PM
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We finished the wine and I was ready for bed, and told her "It's time for bed", assuming she had already made the decision to stay here for the night. I brushed my teeth on got in bed, figuring she'd either get in bed with me or go downstairs to take the couch, I didn't care at this point work is more important. She left my room and said goodbye. This morning I woke up to a text saying "Same time today but give me a reason to stay" and realized that she drove home last night. She left her leftov…
/r/seduction02/06/15 05:04 PM
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How to Seduction Through Texts You don't. Texts are for logistics. If you failed to seduce in person before exchanging numbers, you're not going to compensate for this over text. .....I usually get numbers about 99% of the time. The problem is continuing after that.....They would keep messaging me though, but say that they are busy when I ask them out. Or some will agree to meet me and then suddenly disappear off the face of the earth. So the problem is NOT continuing after that. It's at the tim…
/r/seduction02/06/15 03:42 PM
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Have guys become too reliant on Tinder? This doesn't even pass the laugh test as a claim worth taking seriously. I picked up a Kindle book today whose very title is "Fuck Tinder" and it seems to insist that guys should make an effort to steer away from the app and keep sharp. One guy is on a crusade against Tinder doesn't stand as evidence that all guys have lost their edge or that all guys have lost something because of Tinder. Do you think too many men are dulling their game with Tinder? No. I…
/r/seduction02/06/15 03:35 PM
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Good luck man. To be honest, you'll probably have to make a few mistakes just like the ones I advised you against, before some of these lessons sink in. So don't be too hard on yourself. Many of us have been there.
/r/seduction02/06/15 10:24 AM
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I'd rather put it that way: self-affirming thoughts are the result of being awesome rather than being the cause itself Not quite. I did a lot of work on myself back when I had huge anxiety issues and couldn't get laid if a girl asked me to go home with her. And I laid some strong groundwork for myself with certain mantras / self-affirming thoughts. The problem is that most guys just let illogical negative thoughts get set in their brain, without challenging them with logic. The kind of logic tha…
/r/seduction02/06/15 09:52 AM
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Yeah I started learning more and realise that this should not be asked in the first place. Yeah, pretty much, you don't need to get into history. It doesn't serve anything except fear and insecurity. What difference does it make if you or she dated anyone before that point? None. This isn't something that you should want to share with a girl and it's nothing you want to get into where she is concerned either. You don't want to get into sob stories or anything like that. You don't want to share h…
/r/seduction02/06/15 09:46 AM
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The one I talked to last never had a boyfriend and was going to take the last train back.... Ouch. But why was she talking about "never having a boyfriend?" This indicates that you were leading the conversation into unhelpful places. ......though she was holding my friend's hand most of the way through, she suddenly grabbed me mid way and started making out with me (in front of my friend). I joked and say I'm gonna take you to my home and she says yes shyly. Ouch. A lot of unpackage here. She ha…
/r/seduction02/06/15 07:32 AM
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But she stops me. She stops kissing me and literally says no. I ask her what's wrong and she says she doesn't want to seem like a slut. I tell her that I don't think she's a slut but either way she shouldn't care what I think. So we continue kissing, and I try again, but again she says no. I try another time after and again she stops me and says she isn't in the mood. Couple things. Let's be honest here, you didn't need to ask "what's wrong?" And it's questionable if this was even a legitimate q…
/r/seduction02/06/15 07:19 AM
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Anyways, he texted her today saying he was leaving for Georgia and invited her over. She was wondering if I was cool with it. Surprisingly enough, I wasnt. It really bothered me because he's a freaking dumpster dude, I don't understand how he gets girls but he does, and she was a booty call. and this bothers me because I don't want a relationship right now but I guess I care about this girl. She's pretty much my best friend. It also bothers me because it generates insecurities about comparing hi…
/r/seduction02/06/15 07:02 AM
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-"awhile" is last summer so i guess roughly 8 months. -we hooked up, i fingered her and we madeout a couple times -she actually did say verbatim "we can get coffee or some shit" lol. Ah. Hmmmm. Coffee of some shit.... lol. Okay. I guess you could do worse than to have a conversation with this girl and see if there's any heat. But it doesn't have to mean that she's "the relationship type." She might be but it's not like asking to talk before getting dirty, has to mean anything more than, "I just …
/r/seduction02/06/15 06:43 AM
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When i told her she should come over tomorrow she said "we could just get coffee or some shit". This girl was not the relationship type last time i checked but i guess it's been awhile. How long is "awhile?" What exactly was "fooling around?" What exactly did she say? I'm assuming she didn't say, "or some shit." My question is, should i think anything of this? Or just get coffee and see where I can go from there? It doesn't mean that she's "the relationship type." Necessarily. A lot of often don…
/r/seduction01/06/15 11:28 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3827f9/becoming_sexual/crsdu8n <----My reply is here.....
/r/seduction01/06/15 11:15 PM
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I know the kino ladder start with hands, then shoulders body and finally the neck and hair. More important than ANY ladder (which could be debated until the cows come home), kino requires you to pay attention to the girl as you escalate. It's not just, "start at x and proceed until you get to y." Paying attention to her is vital because she'll be giving you feedback as you get into her space, that lets you know what she wants and how much of it she wants. But you won't know this if you're in you…
/r/seduction01/06/15 11:09 PM
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It's when the topic comes up, I get silent like a virgin, trying to reverse such a thing or be receptive if the topic comes up. If I'm silent, it doesn't add anything positive to how I'm perceived. You're leaving a lot out here. How is this coming up? To put this another way, there is little reason for a subject to come up if you don't want it to. For example, if you're talking to the girl about herself, that rarely leads to sex very quickly. Unless you steer it in that direction. You don't need…
/r/seduction01/06/15 04:48 PM
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Why don't girls like nude photos via internet, yet they post them here on reddit, imgur, etc? Whenever I send a photo via Facebook, I get blocked... Why!? Just because girls like to post nudes of themselves for attention, doesn't mean that, in the context of a personal conversation with a stranger like you, that they want one from some guy they don't know.
/r/seduction01/06/15 03:42 PM
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Now, my main issue is learning to chat and making sexual remarks and knowing they'll be receptive. Look, this is one of the worst misconceptions out there. You don't NEED to make sexual comments. In fact, trying to be verbally "sexual," especially for newbs, is often the best way to ensure that nothing sexual actually happens. The only exception I've seen is when a guy really knows what he's doing, but in those cases, they are compensating for this with really good game. Just like some guys can …
/r/seduction01/06/15 03:12 PM
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First of all, if you're going to post a question like this and you want good responses, then actually POST something. A title is not enough. Secondly, this isn't a scenario that should come up much. The times that it has, they asked if she was my GF and I said no, because she wasn't, but still walked off hand in hand, all in her space. What you say isn't as important as your body language. And this question doesn't matter as much as staying calm does. If someone asked if I was together with some…
/r/seduction01/06/15 01:06 PM
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I've noticed several times that when i tell stories i end up getting half way through and realizing there was no point to telling the story. So my question to you Seddit is how do you know if a story is okay to tell and how to tell it? Irrelevant. You don't need to tell a story. If you want to connect, it's not about monologuing anyway. It's about getting her talking. You get her talking enough, and you'll have time to inject parts of yourself as you go, but trying to shoehorn some story about w…
/r/seduction01/06/15 12:52 PM
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I'm talking to a girl that's interested in me but whatever I do im suddenly not interested in her. All I'm asking is how do I overcome this? It's not something you overcome. It's something you get in touch with. This is your emotions telling you when someone is not right for you. Twice in two months is nothing to be worried about.
/r/seduction29/05/15 05:12 AM
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I like this perspective, very empowering. How can I internalize these ideas? Just try to remind myself that I'm someone's dream guy? This whole dream guy/dream girl thing is kind of flawed. There really is no such thing unless people want to overlook the things that make us human. Like taking shits, etc. But the overall idea is pretty good. For a segment of the female population, you will be attractive. Generally I've thought that building confidence comes from successes. Sure. But which success…
/r/seduction28/05/15 03:35 PM
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My problem is that I get drunk in one or two drink itself. I don't know why. I am 29, 145 lbs , 5"9'. So don't drink. Drink soda and other mixers. So where to meet women so that I can open them up without coming as creepy. I am in SF ( Peninsula ) and often go to the city. What are places to develop the game ? This can be done anywhere that there are people.
/r/seduction28/05/15 01:06 PM
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This post is being removed because, based on the information provided, it seems to belong more in /r/relationships.
/r/seduction28/05/15 01:27 AM
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This post had to be removed but I'll still answer it. ..... if I'm hanging with friends she appears and start to hug my friends in front of me on a sexy way (she has never done that to me) This comes off like she's emphasizing that she doesn't like you. Granted you've left a lot of information out here. if I'm talking with my friends she comes and try to steal them by introducing another topic to them and asking things to them while acting like I'm not there. This comes off like she REALLY doesn…
/r/seduction28/05/15 01:25 AM
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Its mostly by my chosing. I have incredibly high standards. Should I feel bad? No, not if you're truly choosing this path. Just know that the older you get, the only virgins you meet will be people who choose it for religious reasons. If that matters to you. What are your standards? How many details in this are you comfortable sharing? Any words of wisdom.... Start working on your life, FOR YOU. Not with any regard for how a prospective girl might think of it. The best foundation for "gaming" gi…
/r/seduction28/05/15 01:16 AM
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I've always been fairly successful with girls, but it's never the girls I covet. These girls just sorta seem untouchable and when I try to make something happen it is always more forced, where other girls come easily. Right so you've pegged the issue here but as to the solutions, you have a false dichotomy....... One attitude is just to say fuck it and play the numbers game, assuming it will happen. Another is to try to improve yourself to where you are at their level. I haven't really had a ton…
/r/seduction26/05/15 11:13 PM
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All I can do to hookup with girls is act like an overly confident douche, and it works but it feels bad and there is no connection. I know this is super cliche but I am afraid to act like myself because that has never been attractive to girls, but acting like this overly confident twat , which works, is not me at all but it does at least get something. What should I do? Well, you haven't left yourself any way out with this attitude, have you? First off, you need to realize that you've painted yo…
/r/seduction26/05/15 11:57 AM
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She tells me that she wants to have sex so badly, when I try to invite her straight up to my apartment, even when I invite her for a movie she doesnt want to come. What is the point of telling me that she wants sex if I cant do anything with it? How do I deal with this kind of behaviour and situation? Could be attention whoring. Could be that conversation killed it: there are fewer ways to kill your chances of having sex, than overtly talking about it. In the future, if she says that she wants t…
/r/seduction26/05/15 11:48 AM
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Approaching girls who MIGHT have a boyfriend? This is not a worthy consideration, though you might think it to be. If she has a BF, she'll let you know. If she's dishonest and has a BF, do you really expect her to answer honestly anyway? But it doesn't matter because even then, she'll give off signs of having a BF. The thing is, I recently discovered from a friend of mine in her group (the professor randomly assigned us into groups at the beginning of the semester, and I wasn't chosen for hers i…
/r/seduction25/05/15 04:02 PM
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IS late teens-mid 20s the best time to get with girls? There is no best time. While you're both alive is the best time. Cut this crap out, man. This title alone tells me that you're creating SO much pressure by the way you're CHOOSING to look at all this. You don't deserve this, man. Cut yourself a break. No one can operate under so much pressure. I'm 22 years old, no game, no nothing and I know for fact that not many girls will want to lay down with me and I don't even feel like changing myself…
/r/seduction25/05/15 11:29 AM
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Ask yourself: if you were lined up next to 10 random single men from your town......What is there about you that would stop her dead in her tracks and make her say, "Wow, this man is unique?" That you have a segment of the single women population that you will have strong appeal with. Just like the other 10 random guys have their own segments with whom they have their appeal with. Also, I'm going to second the guy who's talking about confidence being so very important.
/r/seduction25/05/15 10:16 AM
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Who teached PuA's the PuA? Often, they either had the opportunity to have healthy mindsets and healthy self-esteems passed down to them from their parents, or stumbled onto such things on their own. Are they born with it? No one is, really. Even "naturals," are mostly just guys who had a certain personality type that led them into certain situations that helped them to develop "it." But the game itself is not something anyone has to start out with. Who holds the monopoly in this Art No such thin…
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:48 AM
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By all means..... go for what excites you. But don't be surprised if it gets boring trying to maintain something with a "silent girl." In my experience, most of those tend to be lower energy and/or require constant energy to be put in just to get them to a level that's not even as high as a more open girl. They're not happy being forced to open up all the time, and the energy drain leads to resentment on the guy's end of things too. Just be wary, is all. Good luck!
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:42 AM
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Where do you draw the line between what is tolerated and what isn't? Are you willing to abandon a girl if she crosses lines of disrespect and doesn't own up/atone for it? Couple things here: There's a misunderstanding about what "shit tests," really are. Guys always want to know what thing to say to what "test." It's not about what you say. It's the way you think. It's not about "tolerating," them, so much as it is about having the ability to NOT take yourself so seriously. If someone is truly "…
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:39 AM
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I've been talking to this girl ever since I gave her my number (we work together and go to the same school so I've known her) as she seemed interested. Small thing: don't just give girls your number. It's not going to be as strong a move as just going for a number exchange. Would just going out to getting something to eat or some coffee suffice? In a pinch, sure. The important thing is to be in a place that allows for privacy, has a warm and/or inviting atmosphere, and then you use the opportuni…
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:31 AM
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Okay just a quick questions, how is eye contact an indicator of interest? Do you look at things that bore you or disinterest you? This kind of answers itself. However, this idea of analyzing her behavior for IOIs, is kind of a waste of time. Sure, it's good to know that some things can be "signs," but context is WAY more important. The big picture. The moment you start scrutinizing the details of her behavior, you're in your head and taking your attention away from the big picture, which provide…
/r/seduction24/05/15 01:02 PM
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No problem.... One thing to add: a good mentality as you explore the girl in conversation: Find out what her motivations and emotions are relative to the topic at hand. Then you can get at what makes her tick. Which will show you if she's your kind of girl. Information is power. (So it'll also help you answer tons of other questions like what things to suggest as date options, what to talk about, how to escalate and when, etc.)
/r/seduction24/05/15 12:56 PM
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.....For instance I want a funny and relaxed girl, but sometimes I want a mysterious one. This is a good start. But it goes deeper than this. Funny and relaxed can involve so many things in life. And maybe this is attractive in some situations but not others. Mysterious doesn't really tell you anything other than the girl isn't open about information. Which actually isn't a good thing. And if you're attracted to that, there's a bit of baggage you will have to deal with in yourself. This is reall…
/r/seduction24/05/15 12:52 PM
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Except science seems to err on the side of determinism...... Hmmmm. Yes and no. Cognitive behavior therapy wouldn't exist as a viable means of combatting this kind of stuff, if there wasn't any way to turn this around using one's own thoughts. I've used this kind of therapy on myself to dig myself out of severe depression and anxiety strong enough to physically paralyze me.
/r/seduction24/05/15 12:44 PM
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Don't know why you got downvoted. Don't know either. Could have been because of my Cube comment. Could have been because I said that it's not 100% up to the guy to make stuff happen. -shrugs- Thanks for your reply! Anytime. I agree I did lose my frame there for a few minutes..... It happens to all of us..... Better luck out there!
/r/seduction24/05/15 12:42 PM
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......she only has one day left before she leaves to go back home across the country. .....she says that she is going to check and see if no one is there so we can fuck while her roommates are out. You would have increased your chances if the subject of sex had remained innuendo. Once it became out in the open, the pressure on her was working against you. How did all this talk of sex get so overt and in the open? I think the lesson I learned here is to always keep the sexual tension alive throug…
/r/seduction23/05/15 02:31 PM
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Can you define escalating, or link me to a previous post? Escalation is covered in the Sidebar...... Do you think its advisable to flirt with a girl, then kind of treat her like a friend? If you aren't interested in her. :P Like not flirt with her, and just talking about your self? Only if you want to cut yourself off. Getting her talking about herself is more valuable. Sure, you can have a turn.... but getting her started is key.
/r/seduction23/05/15 01:20 PM
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I had one girl and like we we on the cusp of shagging and i stopped, and said hey, i don't want a relationship out of this... totally killed the vibe... didn't have sex... Now i don't know how to approach the subject pre-sex.... That's because you're wrong about the timing here. You wait until after sex. It's fine. And your presentation just needs a little improvement. Your statement, "I don't want a relationship out of this," is problematic. It comes with built in assumptions. She might not hav…
/r/seduction23/05/15 01:14 PM
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• Don’t make your conversation into an interview. It's not about you just shooting a question at her, then a short answer from her, then another question, rinse and repeat. There's no connection in this. Use statements instead of questions whenever possible. This is not so important. Asking questions is fine. It's not a death sentence. The real issue is when you aren't LISTENING. You make a statement or a question, then you listen to her response. I mean 100% listen, actively. No thinking about …
/r/seduction23/05/15 01:03 PM
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Do you just go up to her and then start talking about the things that are going on around you guys or just anything. Think about where you are, man. If you're at a rave, in particular, what is the activity of the venue? It's about loud music and dancing. So why then, would you put yourself at a disadvantage by interrupting her good time by asking her to strain to listen to some random dude she doesn't know? That's akin to walking up to some dude at a LAN party who's in the middle of a match, and…
/r/seduction23/05/15 12:50 PM
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Like there still a chance, but you are edging closer to the friendzone. like what are the warning signals to look out for? This may seem like a good question, but sadly it isn't. If you're escalating and being confident, then you're doing the best you can. You should not be wasting time looking for signals that you aren't escalating and being confident. If you're not escalating, then escalating is a better use of time and resources than "looking for warning signals." If you're not confident, the…
/r/seduction23/05/15 12:40 PM
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Before the coffee shop, she texted much more frequently, and openly. After, she's clammed up. It's a strange turn. I can't think of any behavioral changes I've shown, so I'm fairly confident this is her reevaluating the situation and deciding if she wants things to continue down a non-platonic path. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like you did the best you could have with the cards you were dealt. That's the best any of us can do, man. So maybe she realized I was into her. Her realizing th…
/r/seduction23/05/15 12:32 PM
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Look, this suggestion amounts to a guy standing around in one spot, with an intention. That is, a specific goal; they want something specific from certain people. This will give off the wrong vibe. The same way you can tell that some guy is going to hand you a pamphlet and start proselytizing you for God. You can tell when people are going to go into a sales pitch because they have a single-mindedness about them. And you deciding to post up in one spot, especially as awkward as you feel about th…
/r/seduction23/05/15 06:16 AM
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So, did any beginner felt like this once they started? Do you think it's normal? Is it something that will only pass once I actually start approaching, or is it something else, do you think (basing on your experience)? There's more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak. I broke this barrier by socializing in activities like partner dance communities, that offer much practice, and an excuse that gives you plenty of reason to approach new people all the time. A lot of people approach you too. So…
/r/seduction23/05/15 06:12 AM
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Can any guys who have started an FWB-type deal with a girl offer some advice on how to let her know that I only want something casual right now? Should I just let sex happen naturally and then have "the talk" the morning after? Morning after is a good time. After anything kissing or beyond has gone down. Basically, you let her know that this is what you have to offer. The trick is to do so in a way that doesn't make any assumptions about where she is at. You might be partially or completely off …
/r/seduction23/05/15 05:52 AM
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They are definitely not all in relationships in Seattle. JohnnyBoyFart has some good tips. Just create a life, man. Join a gym, find good places to buy groceries, like Whole Foods. Hang around the neighborhoods around UW. Create a life and then talk to people as you go about your day to day.
/r/seduction23/05/15 05:45 AM
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When I'm talking to the girls, sometimes I know that if I do/say X, i'm gonna hook her up, but that doesn't feels right, especially if thats a girl from my class. I would say that it's not because it's a girl from your class. It's because when you do and say things only to hook up, then you often do things that aren't really who you are. You're changing who you are, for others around you. Which is not very stable. It can make you feel.....wrong. You might have to stop for a bit and start thinkin…
/r/seduction23/05/15 05:39 AM
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Hey guys. I'm posting from a throw away account (obviously). I was very active in this sub last summer even though I didn't have a problem with attracting girls. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't have game. Or at least I don't think I have but most girls just find me attractive. Tough to say. A lot of "game" isn't at all like the stereotypical slick guy in the bar sliding up next to some girl and whisking her away in 30 minutes or less. So maybe you DO have game. However I really miss seduction. …
/r/seduction23/05/15 05:33 AM
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This post had to be removed because all your questions have already been addressed in the Sidebar.
/r/seduction23/05/15 03:45 AM
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Thanks again for helping me out figuring who I really am. But it's not "who you really are." That's bullshit. Your thought patterns cause the release of hormones and chemicals in your body. And what we have found is that those things change your brain chemistry. Your brain chemistry affects things like your mood....... depression, etc. Your thought patterns are key here. By choosing to hold onto unhelpful thought patterns, you are CHOOSING to be a certain person. It's choice. NOT who you are. Ne…
/r/seduction23/05/15 03:43 AM
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Was at a bar the other day, and was chatting up this really cute teacher. Things were going quite well, when I thought I would bring out the Cube (it has worked really well for me in the past). First off, it is easy enough to connect without breaking out The Cube. She immediately started freaking out, saying that I was playing her... and that this was from "that disgusting book". That said, her reaction is.......... freaking ridiculous. You've heard of shit tests, yes? What you should consider h…
/r/seduction23/05/15 03:36 AM
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He doesn't come across as jaded to me. He does when his view is such a significant thing affecting his experience. Your re-frame seems like arguing semantics..... Semantics would be when one is arguing over which terminology to use to describe the same thing. What I describe is two different experiences. Each is the same situation, but one person sees it in good faith, and the other doesn't, so each person gets a different experience out of it. Again, I've had both mindsets so I get it. "Good to…
/r/seduction23/05/15 03:25 AM
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Of course it does, but so does a person who finds it ridiculously easy to pick up girls anywhere he goes. Know what I mean? Some guys just don't share that reality. It's not "reality." It's your CHOICE in mindset. There are not guys who just magically find it "ridiculously easy to pick up girls anywhere." It's because of their chosen mindset. I haven't been to those clubs since. Clubs and bars in general aren't my thing. Good to know which places aren't your thing. At a club there are a lot the …
/r/seduction22/05/15 01:20 PM
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I have a playful nature, and woman perceive it as flirting. First the good...... This is good. Being playful IS flirtatious. Too many guys waste a lot of time trying to figure out how to "flirt." It's not rocket science. It's often, playfulness. Where I work, its hot. A co worker always tells me its so hot, just me however, when Im on break. I assume its to get my attention. Stop assuming. Given nothing else to go on about this person, you've said nothing here that guarantees she is "trying to g…
/r/seduction22/05/15 12:55 PM
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I see this ALL the time. Girls hanging out and flirting with fat bald security guards . Is it an authority or value thing? Not a whole lot of value in examining this, really. Security guards allow them access to clubs. Which saves them money. Hence, they schmooze the security guards. Just like they schmooze guys for free drinks. And knowing this does what for you? Not much, really.
/r/seduction22/05/15 12:37 PM
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Yes, I am a bit shy, and yes, I am even afraid of them..... Listen to yourself. Women are just people. and yes I have my so called "reasons" for it... Many women made fun of me, many screwed me up in many ways, of course, I allowed it... It's not that you allowed it at the time. You had no control over what they did. It's that you're allowing YOURSELF to hold onto all that stuff from the past and you're allowing it to take away your present and your future. Now, I know how a Facebook chat will g…
/r/seduction22/05/15 12:35 PM
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.....we get into some sex talk...... First mistake. Best way to get her second guessing if she wants sex to even happen, is through "sex talk". Innuendos are your friend, man. She mentions that she's not into kissing, only in certain situations will she really enjoy it. I mention (from what I've been told by other girls) that I'm not too bad of a kisser. If she mentions that she's not into kissing.....it implies that you were in territory that you shouldn't have even been in. There's no reason t…
/r/seduction22/05/15 12:18 PM
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Look, here's the thing about that video. It's titled "How not to run out of things to say. But the takeaway is actually not what's stated. It doesn't mean that he succeeds because he never runs out of things to say about himself. The takeaway is confidence sells. Period. And confidence sells enough to overcome a ton of shitty game. Because talking about yourself and failing to connect with a girl by getting her to open up about who she is, is usually enough to sink your chances, by itself. (Unle…
/r/seduction22/05/15 11:09 AM
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Talking to girls- i feel like im doing all the work. Talking to girls isn't supposed to be work..... well, it is and isn't. You ask a question to get her talking, then actively listen until she stops answering. Then you think about what she just said and make a comment or ask a question based on what she just said. .....but she is infinitely more interesting than me, I have a good few hobbies that are available to talk about, but I feel like we're always talking about her and I'm thinking that m…
/r/seduction21/05/15 04:50 PM
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Great answer. From your perspective women are just as horny as guys (but need a lot more 'attention' to let this side of them be seen.) Well, yes. But specifically, it's not that they need attention..... It's that guys need to pay more attention so they know when to make adjustments in their approach. Guys often think that it's a Yes/No situation with girls when it comes to whether sex is going to happen. But often, it's more like, "Not right now, maybe later." So one must keep their cool and ro…
/r/seduction21/05/15 05:35 AM
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I'm not sure if you think girls are just as horny as guys or not... I didn't speak specifically speak to the level of horniness. And anyone who maintains friendships with girls, knows that they certainly are just as horny as guys. It would make sense to me that if women liked sex as much, then they would find a way to offset the stigmas you mentioned and provide safe avenues for guys to be successful in pursuing them. That's not the issue. If you read what I posted, granted there was a fair amou…
/r/seduction20/05/15 05:51 PM
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Updated! Glad you got some closure, now next time you know what this kind of behavior from a girl means...... She really was trying to convey that she didn't see you that way. But it's still valuable experience. Definitely a win, overall.
/r/seduction20/05/15 03:06 PM
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Why is it that everytime I turn a woman down I end up being the bad guy. You're leaving out quite a bit here. What exactly is happening before and as you L.J.B.F. these girls? Have you actually been on dates with them at this point? Have you had sex with them? Kissed them? Exactly what level of physical and emotional intimacy are they reaching before you tell them this? Exactly WHAT are you saying to them when you L.J.B.F. them? Verbatim, if possible.
/r/seduction20/05/15 09:39 AM
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I was talking with a close friend today about my desire to meet girls, get laid, do dating, fall in love, the whole thing, when he started probing me for why I'm so interested in this pursuit. I couldn't really come up with a genuinely good answer. Wait. Let me get this straight. He asked you why you: Want to meet girls. Have sex. Fall in love. The whole thing..... (which means settle down?) Do I have his questions right? If so, you're saying that you couldn't answer him adequately? First off, t…
/r/seduction20/05/15 09:29 AM
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They obviously don't act the way guys do - or respond to our usual slew of approach techniques - so in a way it seems women are better at avoiding sex than cultivating it. That's because of the way you're choosing to look at it. However biologically it stands to reason (and from what I've read) women do have a pretty strong sex drive and I'd like to find out from some experts here on the signals these women put off and in what ways they actually are trying to get laid... Here's the thing. It's n…
/r/seduction20/05/15 09:12 AM
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.....I was like, if I can just get this girl to learn to be patient and not so demanding I think she will actually WANT to be in a relationship (she would always say the stuff I mentioned above - I would prefer to be single, I want to date a robot, etc.). It's actually quite great that you got some experience in things you really want to have in a relationship. A lot of guys don't have those reference experiences. And there's something here in what you're saying..... that actually stands to libe…
/r/seduction20/05/15 03:12 AM
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How do I go from being indirect to direct? Being indirect is easy for me, especially at this beach. How do I let her know my intentions during small talk? Small talk is a misnomer. Walking up and starting a conversation, and then finding out if you think the girl is really interesting..... while paying attention to her, focusing on the moment, and getting her to talk about herself..... this shows plenty of intention. When I hear people talking about being "direct," sometimes I think it's putting…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:14 PM
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Thank you for the thought out response! Time to change my game plan, you're right about what you said. I ran this morning and walked to a diner for breakfast. There wasn't many people out, I'll try what you said next time I head back out and let you know how it goes! You might try a place that features some activity that you like doing, so that you can approach at your leisure, either on the side or because of the activity. And as far as this idea on the thread, of letting them know how attracti…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:10 PM
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The first thing that both guys and girls see when they first meet someone of the opposite sex is how they look. Based off that, how would a guy and girl place said individual. That's not how it works. Would a guy immediately label that girl as datable? One night stand? Friend? Same for the girl. Would she label that guy as datable? One night stand? Friend? It's not something that's decided based on looks. After looks, what do the guy and girl both look for next? It's not like this. It's not like…
/r/seduction19/05/15 03:13 PM
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Maybe this is just specific to my high school but most girls seem to go for the lanky skinny guys rather than the built, muscular guys (like myself). Is there any reason for this? Are you serious? Do you know how many posts I've seen from guys complaining that they're too skinny and the like and wanting to bulk up at the gym? This is in your head.
/r/seduction19/05/15 03:03 PM
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I've been approach my women in stores Do you have any particular plan for how you come up with your opener in these cases? and others who compliment my tattoo. Nice. The tattoo is kind of like a litmus test. Girls often won't comment unless there's some interest here. If they were repelled, they wouldn't bother. I try to keep my conversations as short as possible until I ask if they want to give me a tour of the beach (if they live here) or something else involving us two. Hmmmm. Trying to keep …
/r/seduction19/05/15 03:00 PM
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Funny thing is, in one of our last calls (post breakup, her trying to save things), she admitted to me that she liked to provoke me just for the purpose of...provoking me. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? ffs. Make me crazy just to make me crazy...and she wonders why I acted crazy at times. Right..... Stuff like this is awesome feedback to get, actually. She basically told you that she gamed you and you let her. Which sucks for then but for now, you will totally know what this looks like in the …
/r/seduction19/05/15 10:15 AM
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Well the interesting thing about my chinese ex is that she wasn't flashy, didn't drink, didn't like to party (which is why I loved dating her...so so so different from the standard American girls). She, just being raised 100% in China (she is in the US for school/work), just has the culture and has the demands of a Chinese girl, which made it tough. Being raised in China and being sent to the US, and not just that but the East coast..... Definitely upped the odds that you were dealing with a gir…
/r/seduction19/05/15 07:14 AM
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So what kind of things will the girl ask for? Above all, just remember to go in without assumptions about what the girl in front of you will "ask for." It's fully possible date in Asia without even dealing with high maintenance girls. Remember, many Asian girls are attracted to foreigners in the first place, because they are non-traditional. So many of those girls will either not be looking for anything serious, OR they may be looking for something non-traditional. (Read: more egalitarian or Wes…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:44 AM
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I am flying across the country soon to spend a weekend with my female best friend Why did you choose this destination? You realize that you could probably spend that kind of money and go somewhere else interesting, right? ....all the effort I've put forth with her and some other guy gets what I've wanted for so long over something as pathetic as that. It just made me feel worse. It shouldn't make you feel "worse." That's a choice Would you expect a car without any gas to outperform a car with a …
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:31 AM
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First of all what's with these girls who in their profile say "no hookups". What exactly does that mean? "I legit only want to make a friend?" For some reason I fail to believe this. Or is it more: I'm not going to fuck the first time I meet you, but if I give you a second date then maybe? lol. All it means is that they are tired of getting dick pics and instant "HEY YOU WANNA F--K?!" messages from guys, right out of the gates. All it means is that they would like to spend some time getting to k…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:22 AM
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Hi guys, Newbie here, I am recently debating whether I should go solo vs wingman for pickup. Why do you have to choose? Which one is better and whats your opinion of each? Better? Neither. Apples and oranges. Having a good wingman can be a boon to game. Being free to set your own agenda and work alone has it's own benefits. If you could choose, which one would you go with? I've done a little of both, but mostly solo because truly good wingmen are hard to find and a bad one can really drag you do…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:13 AM
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I have this problem where I'm always subconsciously "disqualifying" myself from seriously pursuing girls I know who I'm interested in. Like, I become friends with a girl, casually flirt/establish a decent friendship, and then I can't move it further because I guess I subconsciously feel like she wouldn't be attracted to me. Ironically, the main reason she wouldn't be attracted to you, is because you don't believe she should be. Not every girl will be attracted to you, but you can be damn sure th…
/r/seduction19/05/15 06:07 AM
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Thanks, I'll need it. I'm trying to be more direct which I usually have a problem with. I've noticed being direct saves time and doesn't leave as many "what-ifs" from being too afraid to escalate Just checking here, but what do you mean by "being more direct?" What are you doing here? How are you opening? What are you saying? How far into a conversation are you getting?
/r/seduction19/05/15 05:58 AM
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What the fuck do I do when all my friends are attractive but I'm merely average or below average? This is bullshit, man. There is entirely too much in "attractiveness" that goes beyond looks. Exhibit A: Good looks don't guarantee shit. I had a friend who looked like a model and got favorable comparisons to a famous actor (a young sex symbol). Girls threw themselves at him, basically asking him out, inviting him to hotel rooms, etc. And yet, if you heard it from him, he didn't have anything going…
/r/seduction19/05/15 05:57 AM
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True, not ALL Chinese girls are this way, but I don't think I am wrong in saying more often than not they exhibit bitchy behavior, are materialistic, and are high maintenance. I would not disagree that there are a fair number of them who can be "bitchy" but I've found that number to be no higher than in the US. I think how we screen girls makes a big difference in what one's experience is. If you're going to go for flashy girls while out on the town, then yeah, more often than not they're going …
/r/seduction19/05/15 05:37 AM
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ITT: Chinese girls are bitches This is way over-generalizing. There are "bitches" everywhere. Chinese girls are really nice This is way over-generalizing. There are "nice girls" everywhere. Chinese girls are materialistic and high maintenance Some are. Some don't follow that meme. The traditional girls from traditional families that are feel under pressure to marry before 25, will be more likely to be this way, but it's by no means a guarantee. I have a lot of friends who've gotten into long ter…
/r/seduction19/05/15 03:16 AM
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Why don't they push for a condom? Are they trying to get pregnant? What HeartBreakRidge said. I've polled girls about it actually. One girl actually thought that the rhythm / pull out method was valid. She was shocked when I told her that there was enough sperm in pre-cum to get pregnant from. She thought that going bareback right before her period was fine. Apparently that's the common wisdom or what she learned in school. They're not trying to get pregnant. There'd be a stigma against that. Th…
/r/seduction19/05/15 03:09 AM
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I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions when trying to seduce Asian woman. What kind of things should I look for when talking to Asian woman. I want to note, that I am currently in China and some things may not apply themselves here as much as in the U.S. or abroad. Yes, it's true. Things in the US don't apply. Here are some cultural things you should be prepared to encounter: The first thing is that you MUST try to keep your head on straight: you will be a desirable commodity to women i…
/r/seduction18/05/15 04:20 PM
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TL:DR - girl wants to date me, won't do anything sexual unless she's in a relationship, I don't want a relationship in general, and now she gets pissed at me You don't turn a girl who wants to date, into an FWB. You screen for girls who want FWB and screen out the girls who want something serious. You have the Talk with them as soon as stuff goes down, at the very least. You tell them where you are (you only want something casual), you tell them you're not assuming what they want, and then leave…
/r/seduction18/05/15 03:56 PM
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I'm working on me so that I can find what makes me excited again. Good luck man.... It's not always an easy journey. Not that you need it, but here's a recommendation. You've got the process down relatively well from the sound of it. Now it's time to stop thinking in volume and start being selective.
/r/seduction17/05/15 04:19 PM
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I'm numb. Like I'm in a dream and I'm doing all the motions to get what I want and I get it but I'm not excited to do anything about it. I'm trying to focus more on me and hopefully I'll start feeling emotions again. Sounds like one of the common issues here at Seddit. Guys get more focused on "getting in there," and less focused on whether they actually want to be there. If you're not excited about it, then you've become about the process of seduction and have lost touch with what you actually …
/r/seduction17/05/15 11:14 AM
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My response: "Aight, Im thinking that its pointless if something like this decides if we met or not" She didnt respond for a day now. I see her online on facebook sometimes Well, you got angry. And you found out that anger doesn't actually accomplish anything except pushing her away. That said, she is not worth the effort, based on all of this. Anyone who is going to be that busy and can't figure out how to prioritize their personal life, either doesn't know how to or doesn't want to. Either one…
/r/seduction17/05/15 11:01 AM
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Now I'm no crazy PUA, but if i go out often enough I'll take someone home with me maybe once a month or so. But now every weekend I do go out with my friend he picks up a LOT easier than me! Just these last few weekends I've been out with him and I've had awful luck and hes done great. Realize that you make your own luck. If something is consistent, it's less about luck. You can apply this to him or you. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little jealous, but its actually getting me down a bit tha…
/r/seduction16/05/15 07:04 AM
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For better or worse, the journey never ends, man.
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:58 AM
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I've been into this girl for some time now but I never made a move because I wasn't confident enough, two years pass by Uh. Friend-zone doesn't usually change. and I've been able to get her into me again. Why do you think this? This is too important a detail to gloss over. But the problem is my close friend likes her too and asked me to see if she likes him because he thinks I'm still in the friendzone with her but there has been sexual tension between us recently. You shouldn't be in the busine…
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:50 AM
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I think I read it the other day, if she's interested in the details she is interested in your, or something to that affect? No. Talking about yourself, let alone about dreams, is not a magic bullet. While I could see a scenario for using this, I could say that about almost any kind of comment. Is this a general tactic you need to use? No. Just listen to the girl and get her talking about herself. You don't need to get into dreams. It's too easily awkward unless you really know what you're doing.…
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:43 AM
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I see what you did there. ;)
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:38 AM
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This comes up quite a bit in askseddit threads when people ask "is she into me" or "does this mean she wants the D?" The answer to those questions is always YES. This is one of the biggest misconceptions around here. Should guys go for it? Absolutely. But girls have tastes that vary just as widely as the tastes of guys vary. They are not always going to be "into you," nor will they always "want the D." Remember that YOU are the seducer. YOU decide who you want and YOU go after it. For the most p…
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:35 AM
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This is not as important a question as you might think. The question you should really be asking yourself is, Who am I? What am I about? What qualities do I like in people? Answer these questions and you'll have a better idea what girls YOU will want.
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:27 AM
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So why don't I just keep this up after experiencing success with it? It may be viewed as clownish. I don't really get that vibe, but it's an obvious counter argument. Who cares about "counter arguments" or theoreticals? You shouldn't. If you get literal feedback from girls that it's clownish, even that wouldn't matter. What matters is whether or not it works. It's semi indirect in the sense I'm not just walking up to the girl and saying something without the filtering. Maybe I would have even be…
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:23 AM
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.....girls that will text, text, text and not go out. Or hand out the number, respond once or twice, then leave it cold turkey. What are some ways to avoid this and find the women who aren't attention whoring? You're already screening them out with this process. You have to go through this part to establish that they are just attention whoring. However, you can quicken it by asking them to hang out early. If they can't or won't show, then next them. End of story. Also on a side note: any tips fo…
/r/seduction16/05/15 04:07 AM
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I have known her for about a year now but we have totally different groups of friends so we don't get to hang out together often. This could give you some room to work with. But if she's already begun to think of you as a friend, it's not going to work. I should also mention that this other guy is dating her younger sister. Not relevant. Just ask her to hang out...... See if it can go anywhere.
/r/seduction16/05/15 04:03 AM
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I do want to fuck. I get horny by myself but when it comes down to my dick it's like I'm out dude you're on your own. Ah. Damn sorry that that is happening to you. It sucks when it does. You may wish to look up a list of ED causes. I've actually encountered problems myself with too drunk or dehydrated. So if you're not drinking enough water, that can be an overlooked issue. Are you actually turned on, but then your equipment isn't cooperating? Or are you not even turned on, really?
/r/seduction16/05/15 04:01 AM
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I've been a lurker for a couple of days and I really want your help. I'm a senior in hs and I want to end with a bang. Look, the first big obstacle in your way is this mindset. If you are looking at this as if you need to end with a bang, you're almost certainly going to fall short. Whatever you can do to look at this in terms of just enjoying everything as much as possible, without expectation...... that will be more helpful. The only problem is that I'm afraid of what people will think about m…
/r/seduction16/05/15 03:25 AM
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.....this girl that is in my year and we talk on and off but nothing serious, there is some flirting when we talk. she just says "hey twisty, I want you to have a girlfriend" This firmly establishes that you are in the friend-zone. People don't say things like this otherwise. You've neglected to mention how long you've known her, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've known her longer than a month without making a move.
/r/seduction15/05/15 08:27 PM
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This thread is being removed because the question is basic and has already been address numerous times, both in the Sidebar and in many threads.
/r/seduction15/05/15 08:23 PM
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sorry, i should have clarified and worded that better, what I meant was how to respond and react to her canceling a date And I was saying that you need to answer my questions above before I can really answer that. In addition to the three questions above, I'd add this one: How exactly did she cancel? And what words did she use?
/r/seduction15/05/15 08:16 PM
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how did you tell your crush you liked her and where? I never do that. I just hang with them and you know what? They figure out that I like them when things escalate and we start kissing, etc. If you want to show a lack of confidence in yourself, lead by telling her you like her. If you want a better chance for something to happen, then you let your actions speak for you.
/r/seduction15/05/15 08:13 PM
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Yeah that's fine with me. I'm struggling to figure out what turns me on. I can make girls wet just fine and they get rowdy and in the mood, but I'm not feeling anything and not getting aroused like it's just something to do Then don't do it. You shouldn't be ho-hum about it. If you wouldn't answer, "Fuck yes," to the question, "Do you want to hang with her/have sex with her/whatever?" Then you shouldn't be around her. Casual for now. I just got out of another long term relationship. I don't want…
/r/seduction15/05/15 08:09 PM
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What to do when she cancels a date few hours before it? Look, we're not magicians. We're not mind readers. If you want some help, actually POST something. Off-hand, you should be scheduling your date to be some activity or at some place that you'll have fun whether or not she joins up. Could you clarify a few things since you didn't really post much? How did this date get scheduled? Who asked who out, etc? How did you meet her? How did you get her number?
/r/seduction14/05/15 03:08 PM
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I'm in highschool..... Realize that this right here is part of the problem. Girls outside of high school don't often know themselves. Girls in high school? Forget about it. They're often a mess. this girl and I sit together almost everyday and she is kind of reserved around me. Possibly insecure. A lot of people in high school are insecure. There are some underclassmen in my class and she seems to be much more open and flirty with them than around me. Also the guys she flirts with have no chance…
/r/seduction14/05/15 01:03 PM
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Should I believe this people and just approach girls? Look, you approach when you want to. A big part of inner "game" is being in touch with what YOU want. Key word: YOU. So you don't approach some girl because someone else wants you to. Do it for yourself. So consider all these guys chattering, to be white noise. And perhaps consider it a wake-up call that's telling you that you could be having more fun with these girls than you realize.
/r/seduction14/05/15 12:55 PM
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I'm a high school senior and about to leave for college and I know a whole array of girls that I have known for sometime.....but never built tension. I'm not sure how this thread got to this point, but read the Sidebar, man. You've left out a ton of information and based on what you have supplied for us, none of these friends of yours are good leads. If you have known the girls "for some time," without taking action, then you meet the textbook definition of being in the friend-zone. I want to go…
/r/seduction14/05/15 12:49 PM
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.....So I start chatting up the first girl. Convo is good, kino is good. She seemed like she was really into me the way she was pretty much staring at me. At this point, you appear to have been doing fine. Fast forward 5-10 minutes and I'm kissing her, pushing her up against the wall, putting my hands on her, all going very well. Now I lay off a bit, look at the band. I turn my head around and she's like gone. Like she disappeared from the planet....... At this point, it was NOT going very well.…
/r/seduction14/05/15 12:33 PM
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It's not hot or arousing for women. They cuddle and shit with their friends as it is. What? I cuddle with girls I date sometimes. Post sex. Some cuddling isn't for people who are just friends. It most certainly can be hot and arousing. Especially the morning after sex, when there's cuddling..... that can make the tension go up just before you start a Round 2 in the morning. So really, you're painting with too broad a brush here. If you cuddle and don't go for more, than sure, that's perhaps not …
/r/seduction14/05/15 10:24 AM
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Cuddling and all that sappy shit with a chick while groping them turns me on, but that's bf material. So what's the problem with wanting those things? So you don't want a serious relationship?
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:04 PM
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...... as times goes on she replies less and less and does not initiate hangouts. So how long are you waiting before you ask them out? Is the girl the only one initiating hang outs? Also, how much texting are we talking about here? With a given girl, I'd consider it to be indulgent to be texting her for 10-15 minutes in a day. If you live near her, there's no reason to be having long conversations. You'll see her in person, you shouldn't be trying to compensate for lack of facetime over text.
/r/seduction13/05/15 10:38 AM
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Basically I feel like I can never unlock my full personality because I care what other people think too much. Because my social awareness is way too high. As someone else said, this isn't social awareness you're describing. It's insecurity. Is there a way to not care anymore.. It's not about becoming apathetic or sociopathic. These are basically severe medical conditions you're talking about here. You don't want to not care because that would kill what makes you human.
/r/seduction13/05/15 10:33 AM
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In general girls won't say "yes" or "no" when you ask them out so I was wondering how you tell whether to ask again or just leave it? Yes, they will. If you're not getting a yes or no, when you ask them out, then something is going wrong, either before you even ask, or some time during the asking. You can and should be getting definite yes and no answers. Or definite yes answers, anyway. For example a girl who asked me out a couple of months ago, probably moved on by now Why didn't you go out wi…
/r/seduction13/05/15 09:24 AM
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I truly do not know what is best for my emotional well being. If you stop and think, I think you have more awareness of this, than you think. But one important element is being true to yourself. For example, it can be polite to put yourself out a little or do things you might be a little uncomfortable with to meet social norms and avoid awkwardness. But there is a core to you that is solid and doesn't or shouldn't ever change for the people around you. (So while you might avoid uncomfortable top…
/r/seduction13/05/15 09:18 AM
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As for the Talk, one way you could go about it would be to...... Open with how you enjoy her company (or however you want to say that you have a good time with her) and that you don't know where she's at but you want to know. And you want to tell her where you are at, out of respect. Tell her where you're at: at this time in your life, you're only available for casual relationships. DON'T fall into the pitfall of trying to justify it with her. It is what it is. Close by telling her that you woul…
/r/seduction13/05/15 05:00 AM
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For example, I went on a date on a Tinder date on Tuesday. F-close. Then I went out with a girl on Thursday. F-close. Then I went on a date on Sunday, a 3rd girl who I've been on a couple dates with, finally let me hit it. F-close. Then yesterday again, with the girl on Thursday. F-close. Giggity. Am I being a total scumbag?? Sex doesn't inherently make you one. This has been bothering me a lot because it's so opposite of what I was taught was right. What were you taught, exactly? And by whom? L…
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:58 AM
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I just had this happen to me with a great girl. And she brought exactly this points. You mean you did push-pull on a girl? Then you stopped and the girl lost interest? I am having coffe with a new girl that I am excited about. How do I avoid this happening again? How do I build a connection? I think the main thing is that it's fine to be playful and tease, but don't withhold your attention when you are actually interested. Show interest in finding out who she is as a person. Ask her about hersel…
/r/seduction13/05/15 04:15 AM
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Why would I want sustainable? Good question. I'm talking about sustainable for the guy's emotional well-being. Not sustainable in terms of relationship. Unsustainable would be referring to the guys who go into pick-up but use techniques that lead to them destroying their emotional health. These are the guys who post things on Seddit with titles/headlines that talk about quitting game, thinking that all people are dishonest or bad, feeling like trash, or being burned out in general.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:47 AM
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I like to think I'll find someone to be committed to one day. Of course. (Seriously.) I'm in my early twenties and I'm around self-indulgent behavior. I might as well enjoy it myself a little. By all means. Not knocking that at all. I'm living that. But my warning is because there is more than one way to enjoy self-indulgent behavior. And push-pull is a way that involves scorched earth and the risk of your own emotional well-being. Be wary. That's all. It's like the Dark Side of the Force, for l…
/r/seduction12/05/15 03:44 PM
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Casual is what I'm interested in. Hell..... nothing wrong here, then. Just take care. It can potentially wear away at oneself. My buddy was really good at this technique and he ended up retiring from "game" after a few years, citing that he felt cheap and felt like a whore. He even said things that I didn't understand at the time, like how he was tired of girls wanting him for his body. He had fun with it, but that path has a price. (Every month, there is usually at least one post on Seddit abou…
/r/seduction12/05/15 10:25 AM
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So a girl sits next to you and you assume she likes you... But she has earphones in. So you get your phone and without any words give it to her with contact named "What would you sat about that?" or something like that. What do you think? Is it a good idea? If you haven't connected with her first, this is a bad idea. If you have connected with her first, this works. And if you're confident and nonchalant about it, it works well. (It's always worked for me, but I emphasize connection so I wouldn'…
/r/seduction12/05/15 10:18 AM
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You have to be compatible with them at some level first. I'm unclear as to which part this is commenting on, but I'll assume that you're saying that, "You have to be compatible with them at some level first," before push-pull will work. Whatever compatibility may or may not be there initially, doesn't change the end result. Because push-pull hides who you are, to begin with. So compatibility is largely covered up and the attraction actually comes from something else: The thrill of the hunt. Push…
/r/seduction12/05/15 10:11 AM
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Thank you for this. Surprising how a few pieces of advice from a stranger online can help enhance your POV. No problem..... A bit hypocritical of me (and I hate hypocrites...). Look, it's good to have standards of behavior like this, but if you are going to take a hard-line stance like this, it's really not fair to anyone, even you. If you can understand how you got to this point, then there should be some understanding for other people committing the same "offenses." You know? It's not like you…
/r/seduction12/05/15 09:56 AM
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Good luck untangling this, man. Post again or PM if you have questions.
/r/seduction12/05/15 08:11 AM
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Attraction cannot be artificial. Attraction is attraction. It's what draws you to something. I'm talking about whether someone is attracted due to who someone is as a person..... something inside them, versus what push-pull encourages. Which is for a lack of connection plus the girl compensating for the lack of connection by super-imposing their fantasies onto the other person. Oh, it's great for getting a girl, don't get me wrong. But it's empty, in the end..... because the girl isn't into you.…
/r/seduction12/05/15 08:08 AM
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The guys who are friendzoned generally try to fuck up my game by acting tough or by degrading me So they're making themselves look like idiots. That makes you look good. It doesn't "fuck your game up." Since when is having clowns around, threatening to the king? and the players try to butt in while I am talking to interest. Same here. How is some clueless ass butting in with a random comment, even going to compete with you having an established conversation? It shouldn't. Unless you let it. Self…
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:52 AM
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Should I call them out? No. How do you guys deal with aggressive AMOG's I don't need to. You don't either. Here's the thing. If you take care of your business, don't let yourself get rattled, move the conversation physically if the girl seems troubled (but hold your ground if she's okay), then the girl will shut any AMOG down for you. The moment you start treating an AMOG as if he's a threat, he becomes one. The moment you start to "deal" with him, you have lowered yourself.
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:48 AM
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It's motivated me to get in better shape ....push myself towards a better career potential....Now, I work out 4 times a week .....have a doctorate in the health profession.....am about to start my dream job....every time I get passed up for another guy, I can't help but compare myself..... Now this isn't a product of poor self-confidence..... One of these things is not like the other. You claim that this isn't about poor self-confidence. And yet, with all your shit together, you still find yours…
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:37 AM
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What are your thoughts? Should I ask, should I not ask, or what? You don't need to. If she has one, she'll tell you. If she has one and doesn't tell you, she'll be giving off tells that she's hiding something and then you know to back off or be wary.
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:26 AM
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I can distance myself emotionally. I've learned to just not give a shit. This isn't actually good. This is like saying that you've learned not to care about what food you eat. Which then cuts you off from most of the joy of eating. This is great because girls want my attention, but I'm not just giving it to them. Right. But then what you have isn't attraction. It's artificial attraction, which disappears 99% of the time, after you relax and start being yourself. Can I push to far or is there no …
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:24 AM
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Todrmr, what would you say to me if I told you that I'm afraid of swimming because we're now aware that sharks reside in the waters of my favorite beach? .....used to approach without much hesitation about two years ago. It hadn't caught on yet and not many guys were doing it, so there was a feeling of being ahead of the pack in some sense Don't take this the wrong way, but what the hell are you talking about? Guys picking up on girls is older than the damn Pyramids at Giza. And you've convinced…
/r/seduction12/05/15 07:11 AM
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..... people actually come up to me because I have a unique "accessory" its actually apparel related but is very modern and its one of my businesses. This is great, but don't lean on it too much. The accessory isn't you. How do I get them interested or get into funny conversations? You don't "get" someone to be interested. You show interest in someone else, and then you'll seem interesting. And you don't need to get into a "funny" conversation. You just need to be present to the moment. Then you…
/r/seduction12/05/15 06:53 AM
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This happened like 4 times and eventually they went quiet and got off a stop early to avoid us (we were getting off at the same stop). Then we saw them in the club and they put there heads down and walked past us. Look, was your friend aware of this? Because if not, you need to remind him about this. And after you remind him of this....... .......They seemed into me but as they were trying to tell me something my buddy would constantly just interrupt them and talk over them with something comple…
/r/seduction12/05/15 06:36 AM
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My buddy had a few cutting comments for the prick that deflated him and made the prick look weak. Gotta learn that. Again, it's not about beating this guy. If you keep thinking like that, then guys like this will just drag you into the mud with them. There's almost no way to avoid looking bad if you even treat them like they're on your level. They're not. But the moment you decide to engage with them, even to "beat them," you are lowering yourself. If you can handle yourself, all the better. Ign…
/r/seduction11/05/15 06:22 PM
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At least, dance clubs are definitely non-verbal. Approaches are more easily done through eye contact and body language. If you don't enjoy dancing or whatever the activity of the venue is, then you shouldn't go to clubs.
/r/seduction11/05/15 01:48 PM
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a random guy (prickA) came up to us and began talking to girlB and insulting me to her (calling me a liar etc.). ....after a few minutes of this I....got in his face pretty aggressively (for me). .....girlB had actually left at this point.....how I could have handled the situation better so as to not scare the girl off..... Ouch. Sad thing here is that trying to "deal with a prick" has a way to backfiring, as you were perhaps seeing here. No one wins these kinds of exchanges. As others have said…
/r/seduction11/05/15 01:45 PM
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So how do I friend zone her do I outwardly say it? Like let's just be friends - wouldn't I come off as a lil cocky like she would think that I took it as she likes me so I need to let her know Unless she's clueless, you don't need to L.J.B.F. her with words. Seddit is littered with guys posting about girls that they friend-zoned themselves with by not acting. So that's all you need to do really. Hang out with her but don't ever make moves or escalate. Boom. Instant friend-zone. So you're just sa…
/r/seduction10/05/15 11:22 PM
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okay...the context was "after making a good impression on a girl whom I may never stumble on to again". That helps point this in a better direction. A number exchange is usually going to be the best way to go. Just giving your number to a girl is going to come off...... weak. And just asking for her number means that when you text or call, it'll show up as an unknown person. It's far better to do an exchange on the spot. It doesn't matter which comes first, but if you get her number first, call …
/r/seduction10/05/15 04:59 PM
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I know a lot of times the girl might be faking it or whatever, and I have read in a lot of places to just persist, but I don't want to get anyone in trouble. What do you do in such situations? You cannot ascribe general rules to something like this. There are so many scenarios that could lead to a girl saying this. So how about answering as to specifics? How did you meet this girl? How did you open her? What did you talk about? What did you say just before she told you she has a boyfriend? (In g…
/r/seduction10/05/15 03:19 PM
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Instead of asking for her number, what are the chances of it working if you just give her your number..... This is a false dichotomy. Neither of these is ideal. Give her your number AND ask for hers. and telling her to message or miss call? You haven't given us any information about the context so it's next to impossible to say more. But in general, telling her to call you, generally won't work out well.
/r/seduction10/05/15 03:03 PM
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Point of order: This isn't desensitization. That would mean that you have become robotic and have no feeling whatsoever. What you describe is more like PTSD with pretty girls, which is kind of the opposite of being desensitized. More like over-sensitized. :P my mind was like "oh crap, theres a cute girl in front of me.. what do i do?". As for this...... well s--t. You have to start answering your own ridiculous thoughts when they surface like this. For example, if I heard this thought in my head…
/r/seduction10/05/15 09:14 AM
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So I don't get it man: When I talk to a girl that might be a potential interest I should hold back and just be friends and see what happens? But how will I ever know to take it to the next level? NO. I'm saying that you have your own taste. Right? You don't literally want to screw or kiss every female you meet, right? If this is the case, and you have any specific taste in women and in personality, then what I am suggesting is no more controversial than simply being true to your own standards. S…
/r/seduction08/05/15 01:47 PM
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Doesn't this go against common advice to always escalate and be stating sexual intentions always be flirting "Common advice" like this sounds kind of nuts, to be honest. Why should you "always be escalating?" You have your own personal tastes You surely don't like every girl, right? You have your preferences. And haven't you ever met girls that had an attitude that just turned you off even though they were technically hot? (Just like how some girls who aren't "traditionally hot" can have an atti…
/r/seduction07/05/15 10:16 AM
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I have these female friends I just don't hang out with them. It can be enlightening to hang with girls sometimes. There are things you can't understand as easily until you spend some amount of regular time with girls. There's no replacing the reference experiences you get by being a fly on the wall when girls who are comfortable with you, forget you are there and start talking about guys. And that's just one example. It can also help make a situation more casual and free for a girl if you're in …
/r/seduction07/05/15 10:03 AM
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I don't SOLELY talk to ones I'd wana date. Okay, good start but that's not what they were talking about. I would talk to my classmates co workers etc but why do I need to hang out with you? Why cant I just want to hang out with the ones I find attractive and want to date. This is what they were talking about. And you just said that you focus on hanging out with girls you find attractive. If you only ever hang with girls you want to date, you're doing it wrong. We constantly talk at Seddit about …
/r/seduction06/05/15 09:15 AM
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I constantly read that it lets you humanize them in a way and not really look at them as some sort of prize or different being.. I've never had platonic female friendships and I wonder if this can be a hindrance? It is a hindrance. Being able to develop friendships with girls has several advantages. It gives you inside intel into how they think and feel. Any time you've been confused by a girl, imagine being a fly on the wall....... being able to know what's going on behind the curtain. Having p…
/r/seduction06/05/15 09:05 AM
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Alright, so I've been asked this a bunch, but I still just sit there like: "uhhhhhhhhhhhhh..." Usually it's after sex a girl will say something like: "Tell me a secret" or "Tell me something about yourself nobody else knows" and I sit there trying to think of something that's not completely lame. Any tactics you use for this? It's not about tactics. Just choose something that few people or no one knows. Also, I think this is strange. I have never had this question. Or if I did, I guess I wasn't …
/r/seduction06/05/15 08:57 AM
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We know each other for few years. The seduction part started about two weeks ago where she was my date at one social gathering, we slept together in same bad, she was cuddling with me and stuff (no sex, red river). Since then there was this tension between us. This is the kind of thing you ought to put in your original post. Don't make us dig for it. But this sounds good. Except for the red river. She came up with it as I was negging/mocking her while playing sport together. I don't think I'm in…
/r/seduction04/05/15 05:44 AM
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Sup guys, recently I was talking to a girl I know for some time, we were hitting it off and everything was going well. We are friends but some seduction is going in there. How long have you known her? If it's longer than a month without you making a move, then chances are, seduction was not, in fact, going on. What caught me off guard was her phrase "I want to see your (future) girlfriend" mocking me for my high standards and high level of requirements (I hope you get what I'm talking about sinc…
/r/seduction03/05/15 04:49 PM
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It's helpful to have your attention focused on the moment and the people around you. When people are talking, you cannot be thinking about what you want to say.... you should only be listening fully. (Then think of your response, once they have finished their sentence.)
/r/seduction03/05/15 12:58 PM
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......I just feel like I have a very 'vanilla' way of leading a conversation which ultimately causes the girl to think I am uninterested. What do you mean "vanilla?" What exactly do you do? What's your approach to leading a conversation? How do you determine what you talk about? I think my main issue is that I have still not had a positive sexual encounter and that I am still a virgin. No. It's not. I feel like I have left it far too late and this is where 99.99% of my anxiety comes from. It's a…
/r/seduction03/05/15 12:52 PM
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I don't want to sound like a little beta bitch by doing everything a girl asks me to do but I don't want to sound like a douche, either. What do you say to these sort of things? Here's the thing. Seduction is a team sport. Not a competition. Right now this post is focused on "winning." But you don't really get the best "wins" but going this route. That said, you're right to avoid being an errand boy and also correct in wanting to avoid douchebaggery. "Hold my purse" "Tie my shoes" stuff they cou…
/r/seduction03/05/15 11:27 AM
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I wasn't able to find a point where I could drive the convo sexually or more flirty, nothing happened after this and we sort of drifted away in the party eventually, Not necessary. The reason they drifted away was because the conversation was allowed to wither, probably because you let your end of it die because you thought you had to make it blatantly sexual when you didn't. 1) Once you've passed the general exchanges, where can you jump in and add elements that drive the convo more flirtatious…
/r/seduction02/05/15 02:04 PM
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Fck man now that I think about it I should have went in for the kiss, but I didn't because it happened SOOO FAST. It was less than a minute from the time I opened her to this stage. Then after like 30 more seconds, she told me she had to go and leaned in for the kiss really obviously. I took the hints is time and kissed her but she pulled away after a short while and waved at me and went off with her friend. No number close. It takes two, man. You were fine. She was just using you for validation…
/r/seduction02/05/15 10:28 AM
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Being observant helps you be more adaptable, which helps you figure out how to seduce and woo, etc. Knowing yourself helps you know what things you should or should not do as you seduce and woo. Otherwise, you can easily give up who you are in pursuit of a relationship that will ultimately implode and destroy you in the process. Having confidence is key because you'll have to put it on the line and risk getting hurt at times in the relationship, especially at the beginning.
/r/seduction02/05/15 10:24 AM
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That's a long ass title. It would be better if the post were longer..... She told me she was single, but started seeing someone recently and apologized. She's not giving you anything to work with and you can't make her give you more to work with. Also, her reason does not pass the Laugh Test. If she's telling you that "seeing someone recently" is the roadblock, then she's not telling you the actual reason. Which is probably that she's not interested in you that way. Not quite, anyway.
/r/seduction02/05/15 10:20 AM
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I'm really stubborn How is this relevant? Please elaborate..... and my friends are always telling me about how girls are throwing themselves at me. Okay..... A typical night might include comments like "All of the guys at your school are sooo cute." or "OH you're helping clean up, that's sooo cute" These comments aren't relevant to girls "throwing themselves at you." Complimenting other guys doesn't relate to you. And the second statement is a diminutive. Issue is, I commute and visit friends at…
/r/seduction02/05/15 10:13 AM
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I'm drunk as fuck as you can probably tell, so excuse me for the sob story. Seriously, don't drunk post. :P But alright, I'll take a look at the rest of this. Who am I trying to fool? Despite my struggles, despite my adhd and depression, I've managed to acquire enough social skill to just get by in life. ADHD is not really a deterrent to making friends. In fact, some aspects of it are actually helpful. Depression though, might be an issue. The closest friends i have are from high school and I ma…
/r/seduction02/05/15 09:55 AM
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For ever 10 jokes it seems like 9 are duds, and 1 will get a big laugh. Each dud is humiliating and I often look bad - like a clown. I don't think I've ever told a joke and yet I still express humorous things. You don't have to develop some routine or practice your delivery of jokes. In fact, shoehorning jokes into a conversation can be incongruent with the surrounding conversation. Is it possible to actually develop your sense of humor, or is just something you either have or don't? If I don't …
/r/seduction02/05/15 04:25 AM
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I'm just a very introverted person, and its easy for me to get in my head a lot. The trick for you is probably going to be finding a way to express your social side without overwhelming your tendencies of introversion. If you can see your way to focusing on gathering information from the people and environment, it will help. This has to be done because every time you get into your head, you are cutting yourself off from information that a girl is giving you. I am 19 and just feel like I'm not wh…
/r/seduction28/04/15 01:42 PM
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they'll stand close and squish their boob against my arm. TL;DR: Female squishing boob against arm/chest casually => Flirt? Yah or nah? Based on what you've said, there isn't enough information to say for sure if they are flirting. Because a lot of girls, depending on their maturity level, are attention whores. I have had a number of friends who indiscriminately pressed their chests up on guys all day, in pursuit of validation, without any interest or intention other than pumping up their egos. …
/r/seduction28/04/15 12:02 PM
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Even though this had to be taken down, I am still responding to it. Been doing this since The Game was published. Just found out that my oneitis that I was hooking up with found someone else. So as long as you've been doing this, you haven't been taking care of yourself. Despite warnings to the contrary, you've been trying to use "seduction" to get "that one girl." And in focusing yourself this way, you've left yourself vulnerable and off-balance. We work together. Not directly relevant, though …
/r/seduction28/04/15 11:52 AM
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This had to be removed because it's kind of outside the scope of what we post here and there really isn't a question here.
/r/seduction28/04/15 10:34 AM
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So I've recently encountered a girl who cannot stop talking. Ever. I believe that this is the outlier, the opposite of the cases most guys on here deal with. Your reaction to this, is indicative of the problem most guys have with making connections with girls. What you've said here is the equivalent of a store saying they have a lot of customers but don't know how to make money. If she is talking to you, she is handing herself over to you on a platter. Or at least, if connection is possible, it …
/r/seduction26/04/15 12:04 PM
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I was talking to this girl today and she said she has a boyfriend in another city (4 hour drive 1 way) Okay, so you decide if you want to try to tempt her to be a cheater, or you put her on the back-burner until she's single. If you friend-zone her, that's probably going to cut your chances, depending on what you want. Speaking of that, what would your goals be here anyway? Are you looking for something serious or something casual? Thinking about what she said, I don't think they can have an int…
/r/seduction26/04/15 11:56 AM
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Could services such as Tinder, okcupid etc. be helpful if I am having trouble finding someone 'compatible'? You have told us next to nothing about why this is the case. In person, what are you doing? How do you open girls? What do you talk about with them and how do you decide what to say? How do you decide when to number close? How do you decide when to kiss a girl? Or when to go for sex? How do you decide what to suggest when you ask a girl to hang out? I don't know much about online dating si…
/r/seduction26/04/15 11:43 AM
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Something I've never seen talked about here is picking up female customers as a cashier or similar server. Have any of you guys ever done it? Any stories or advice? Are you kidding? This thread is posted at least once a month. And without fail, the consensus is one of fear: "Don't shit where you eat." This is bullshit, of course. It's not "don't shit where you eat." It's "don't get involved with people at work unless you can be discreet and unless you are good enough at reading people to avoid u…
/r/seduction26/04/15 11:38 AM
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Sorry, it's just that I've never had much conversational skills or flirting skills with strangers, but I win in the looks department Looks won't close anything for you. Looks might get a girl to see what's up but if you don't have anything else going, you're going to repel her. It's that simple. I had a friend who looked like a famous actor..... he got a LOT of attention. Daily. He had girls throwing themselves at him. Sometimes they even asked themselves out..... doing all the work for him. And…
/r/seduction24/04/15 10:48 AM
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Huh. Okay. Just a little over-thinky then. Certainly direct. Try your luck if casual is fine with you.
/r/seduction23/04/15 01:07 PM
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Yeah sorry was in a hurry when writing this. So we met a week ago in barcelona and spend much time together, but in a group. So it wasnt really romantic but there was some flirting going on. Anyway yesterday it was just the casual how are you bs and i just asked her: "i actually wanted to know if you wanna hang out sometime" That is strange. Either something you did struck her as romantic, or she's over-thinking shit. Unless there was something else she said that added extra meaning?
/r/seduction23/04/15 12:40 PM
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But I find me to have a serious mind after all that time, and just cant get a flirtatious mind when a girls come. Any tips? Flirtatious literally means PLAYFUL. Not inherently sexual. Though that can be a part of it. And sexual energy can be present even without you having to be overtly sexual. Hell, the sexual energy can run even higher when you're being less obvious about it. But as for how to be playful..... you have to look for the entertaining and ridiculous in life. You have to be present …
/r/seduction23/04/15 10:53 AM
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well I think she was implying that we had chemistry. We talked for ages. She just randomly mentioned it, then said with the guy she likes conversation are boring. Ugh. I would seriously stop talking about this other guy. Are you bringing him up or is she? Tbh I dont even know why she likes this, he is desperate for sex, and cant pull other girls, but pursues this one as he thinks she easy. How do you know this about the guy? Why do you care? This guy can do his thing and it won't affect you if y…
/r/seduction23/04/15 10:48 AM
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You're in a club. Slightly buzzed, the girl is as well. How easy do you think it'll be for a handsome guy to get her? No way to say with certainty. You've said nothing about this guy's mindset. If his attitude is shit, then girls will be repelled. Does conversation really matter that much? It can. Though you could get as far as making out and agreement to f-close without saying much at a club, if you play your cards right. I mean, it's a club. People go there to dance and listen to loud music. I…
/r/seduction23/04/15 10:42 AM
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So yeah i got that from a girl i was texting. So does she actually mean that shes just not into me or is she telling the truth. Dude..... you gave us absolutely NO context for her statement. Until we know what the conversation was like before her statement, difficult to say what it might mean. Could you specify what you said before that, word for word, if possible?
/r/seduction23/04/15 10:38 AM
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Look...... It's not WHAT you talk about. It's HOW. This is a mindset issue. The mindset being that you need to do everything. You need to come up with conversation points. You need to be interesting, etc. That's not it all. What you need to do is pay attention to the girl. It doesn't matter what you start off with. What matters is that you pay attention to her responses and use those responses to inform how you continue the conversation. Translation: SHE is your greatest source of conversation m…
/r/seduction23/04/15 05:41 AM
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I usually recommend something similar to this. You plan the date as you going to a place or doing an activity that you will want to do with or without the girl. Then she's invited to come along. In this situation, you are guaranteed to have fun. And if she shows up, she can partake and share in the fun, but that experience takes place one way or the other.
/r/seduction23/04/15 05:37 AM
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We had a good conversation but I am not attracted to her. She wants to keep hanging out. How do I not lead her on and how do I end it. If you had a good conversation, what's the harm in a new friend? Also, how do you know that she doesn't feel the same as you?
/r/seduction23/04/15 05:31 AM
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Well today we went walking in the country side randomly to explore. We walked an talked for like 5 hours with arms linked together. She randomly said why hasn't she got chemistry with the guy he likes. Was she also implying that she felt chemistry with you? It's possible. I just said you just have a clingy attachment, and she said how do you know. Oh man. It's a losing battle to try to bring her there with logic. She has to come to this decision on her own. So you don't think it's worth pursuing…
/r/seduction23/04/15 05:29 AM
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....a guy pretended to be a girl, and he was BOMBARBED with dick picks from crushingly desperate, sad men. A female friend ......A local old perv had asked her if he could eat her trash.... ......women actually get harassed on the streets, especially at night during weekends. I'm talking, people actually yell "WHORE!" to girls. I look normal on the outside, but what am I at the moment, if not like these people? Are you honestly saying that you fight the urge to send dick picks to girls, ask girl…
/r/seduction22/04/15 04:00 PM
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I feel like there's too much wrong with me it's like building a house all by myself and when it's time I can finally live in it everything would have passsed me by. You have a choice. A choice of where to focus your attention and your energy. You are choosing to focus on where you want to be in life (the destination), rather than the journey that will be NECESSARY to get there. And the bitch of it is, all this focus you are putting on what you don't have, is keeping you from getting it. What you…
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:03 PM
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Hi first post here. hopefully it applies to this thread. After approaching a girl and getting there name etc. I just cant help myself from stalking via twitter, instagram, fb. help! You must work on yourself to combat this. You have to find something else to do with your time. If you have time to stalk someone on Twitter or whatever, then you need to find something more meaningful to do with your time.
/r/seduction22/04/15 01:52 PM
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Tell me how I can get in there, show her my feelings. If she doesn't like me back then that's life. I hate to say this, but with this girl having been invested in that other guy before you dated her, she has to sort that out before she can begin to figure out how she may or may not feel about you. It sounds like you want a serious thing but when a girl is in this state of mind, she might be game for a fling but she's not available for serious dating. Even if you got right in front of her, right …
/r/seduction22/04/15 01:30 PM
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Yes she is insecure and she is scared of being alone. Right so I had a frank discussion. She liked this guy, however this guy doesn't know what he wants. So I said do you like this guy, she said she is still get over it. Like residual feeling which hasn't gone. So not sure what to do now. What do you want here? There's all this talk about how to get in there, but it's not clear if you even should.
/r/seduction22/04/15 10:14 AM
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It's here....all over here. Usually it's not a post but a response to a newbie's post. That's what I was starting to suspect. It confused me because I didn't think that random replies would be given the same weight as a post by a veteran. And sometimes there are a dozen or more of these responses before someone refutes them. Besides...people will mainly see the responses in their inbox, not the people responding (refuting) the original (direct) responses, right? Sometimes the refutation gets bur…
/r/seduction22/04/15 10:04 AM
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Just a brief note: I share your frustration with this issue. And I've spent a lot of time questioning newbs as to where they have picked up these strange ideas. They claim that they're reading such things here but I can't, for the life of me, recall any posts pushing such ideas, that stand unchallenged for more than 30 minutes without being refuted. And none of the newbs I've questioned thus far can really point to any posts or links. So I think it's possible that these guys acquired these belie…
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:35 PM
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I tried to kiss her. She asked what I was feeling. I mean we were really close could feel her breathe. I said I liked her and I want to kiss her. We were holding hands at this point. She giggled and and hid her face behind her hair. Firstly, do you really like her? You barely know her and with the signals you were sending her with the PDAs (holding hands), you are kind of pushing for serious here. Secondly, this girl is insecure if she's killing the flow like that before a kiss. If I guy stopped…
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:30 PM
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It has happened a couple of times after cold approach. Asked a girl out either in person or via text (for instance to have a coffee) and the reply was something like "of course I would go out with you, but in case you'd consider it as a rendezvous I must warn you that I have a boyfriend". If this keeps happening, you might consider that there's a problem in your approach and that the girls are claiming boyfriend whether or not they have one, because they're turned off. Tough to say. How are you …
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:25 PM
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i kept eye contact. it lasted like 4-5 seconds, then she made some mimics like "what???" i was shocked and made mimics like "nothing" then she said "ok". First off, you didn't need too hold it that single-mindedly. But since you found yourself in that situation, the problem in your response to her is that you decided to feel awkward and nervous about it so she followed suit.
/r/seduction21/04/15 01:30 PM
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I am confused because I dont know if she is interested or not. You find out by being one on one with her and escalating. So ask her to hang out again. Am I allowed to escalate in a way that blantantly says HEY ARE YOU INTERESTED IN ME? Allowed? Nothing would stop you, but this would be a terrible move. You're not escalating by asking her if she's interested in you. You're putting insecurity on display.
/r/seduction21/04/15 01:28 PM
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.....A year ago, I had a really hot neighbor, talked to her once because I only saw her once (I never knew the exact room she was in), and didn't have the balls to get her number or anything. Just today, I saw some pictures she posted of herself on my facebook newsfeed reminding me of her and I think I now have enough balls to ask her out. You don't have a way in here unless you see her in person. You're coming in at a huge deficit that you could pretty much only counteract in person: failing to…
/r/seduction21/04/15 01:25 PM
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......It used to be my strongest area, but that has been very different as of recent. Why do you think that is? My issue is that I have multiple women attracted to me, and I have reciprocated that attraction appropriately, but none of these women trust me...... they put up their ASD in fear that Im just trying to have sex and never talk to them again. Why would they be putting up ASD? Sounds like you're pushing for k-closes and f-closes too early. How do you like to establish rapport without dim…
/r/seduction21/04/15 01:20 PM
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You never really phrase a question so I'm just going to comment on a few things. when we out, after a drink she is really touchy, she will touch my hair, beard, hold hands. I touch her too, in stomach, legs area, and neck. She even once made me feel her stomach. So basically we touch anywhere we want But did you ever go further? If not, then why not? Why not go back to her place or yours? Why not start out at your place or hers? she told me about a metal health problem, and she said the only per…
/r/seduction21/04/15 01:13 PM
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How do I take it to the next level and make it "our" dancing instead of "my" dancing. How do I make it a team sport. How do I keep it a team sport. As long as you're tuned into the girl, she'll show you what she wants and how she wants it. If you're paying attention well enough to start generating interest, then the goal for you would be to avoid going inside of your head and worrying about what to do to take it to the next level. Those answers aren't in your head. They will be gleaned from the …
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:59 AM
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Is there any good method to learn to smile candidly? Look around you in your daily life. Pay attention. Look for the ridiculous. It's there if you want to look for it. Don't waste your time trying to smile if you don't feel it. That'll lead to a fake smile. You don't need some grin on your face all the damn time. If you see a pretty girl, it's not too hard to find something to smile about. Pretty people make me happy to see, personally. And sometimes there's something about the overall situation…
/r/seduction21/04/15 07:29 AM
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I'm talking to a shy girl right now......it's the immature kinda shy where you ask someone a question and they give you a really short/dull answer. So what's the draw here? What attracts you to DULL? Can you elaborate? At first I wrote it off as her being not interested. However, one of her close friends told me she is interested, but just takes awhile for her to warm up to you. Look, here's the thing. Even when a girl like this "opens up," she's never going to reach your level. So unless you li…
/r/seduction21/04/15 07:26 AM
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Can you elaborate more on the last part. I'm having the same issue with the club game. Please elaborate on exactly what point you're having trouble in your club game. (Humor me, please.) How do you "get her on onboard" when it's so damn hard to talk over the music? Clubs aren't about talking. You KNOW this. People go to clubs because they like to dance and listen to loud music. Not because they want to have a conversation with a stranger. So if you don't like dancing and loud music, then you sho…
/r/seduction21/04/15 06:24 AM
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I'm so confused about this connection part, i don't want to be her friend right? If i do this connection part, it usually makes the girl fall in love and then i end up breaking her heart and i feel terrible about it. NO no no no. I'm not talking about romance. Connection happens when two people click, regardless of whether that connection leads to disposable sex or a serious relationship. So yeah, connection isn't about "friendship." It's about relating to another person. If my intentions are a …
/r/seduction21/04/15 06:14 AM
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Yeah I went back to hers for a party. She was very keen and asked me to stay. Cool. Why did you leave? Do I persist or let it go? Your call. But it sounds like you just need to be consistent. You're leaving when she asks you to stay...... I'd say to just ask her to hang out. But it shouldn't be just about her. If she's not answering, just leave it and find something else to focus on with your life.
/r/seduction21/04/15 06:07 AM
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I'm stuck at when i talk to girls i stop finding them attractive after like 10 sec after conversation, i approach both day and in clubs. Look, you don't need to come up with a long list of things to talk about. In fact, if you start going on about your interests or what you want in a girl, then you're still going to shut down the conversation. Why? Because girls (and people in general, really) want connection out of a conversation. You don't connect by getting at talking points. You connect by l…
/r/seduction20/04/15 05:48 PM
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I am usually out at the same club as she is. She came up to me, invited me to a party at hers, was talking to her for around 40 minutes. Made out with her that night and got her number. I am 25, she is 19 Damn. Did you ever attend the party? In any case, she IS 19. It's almost required for girls that age to flake out and be lame, in general.
/r/seduction20/04/15 04:51 PM
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Why do girls give mixed messages? They really don't, not if you know what to look for. Though sometimes it takes a lot of reference experiences to read people right. The good news is that experiences like with this girl, are giving you reference experiences. How are you supposed to know what they are thinking? Learn through experience. Then pay attention to the moment and the girl in front of you. I meet this girl at the coffee shop. Talk to her, there's chemistry. Get her number and she agrees …
/r/seduction20/04/15 02:07 PM
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Confused by a girls actions. I got her number a few weeks ago, made out with her that night. Been texting since. Interest high, lots of flirting and building of rapport. I suggest a meet up. She said she would love too. I suggest a day, messaged delivered, not read, and subsequently not responded to. This was three days ago. I wonder how long you waited to ask her to hang out? And how did you put it when you suggested a meet up? I am tempted to follow this up but I am not sure as I do not know w…
/r/seduction20/04/15 01:58 PM
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An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Spending this much time and energy on what to do if you get a fake number..... it's a bit of a waste. If you emphasize connection, you won't get fake numbers. Period. If you emphasize connection, the girl is not an adversary. They want to work with you. Remember, "seduction" isn't a competition. It's a team sport. If you're playing it right, it's not adversarial. It's not about gotcha moments like this. It's about reaching a space where girls are …
/r/seduction20/04/15 01:44 PM
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Anyone have any experience with picking up dancers and wouldn't mind sharing some tips? I had a friend who picked up on a stripper. He was highly damaged and attracted a damaged girl as well. Hung out with stripper friends of hers also, outside of the workplace. Rarely at their place of employment. (I think 2 times out of 1-2 years they were sporadically involved.) So yeah, I have a few insights but for my money, getting a stripper is going to be more trouble and drama than it's worth. Went with…
/r/seduction20/04/15 01:36 PM
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"Hey, how's it going?" "Fine." "What are you up to right now?" "Nothing." "Got any plans for tonight?" "Not really." Two things: None of these statements are open-ended enough to lead to anything. You are basically asking for one word responses and getting frustrated with the results you set up. If you send messages like this to a girl you just met, you are wasting your time. It might be useful for you to try to keep your texting down to logistics like figuring out when to meet up, what to do, w…
/r/seduction20/04/15 11:01 AM
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So based off that interaction and what you've read so far, do you think I should just completely forget bout her or still give it one last attempt? Hard to say. If you have asked her to hang out already and she hasn't answered, then don't follow up. If you don't have a request to hang out with her already in the pipes, then ask her to hang out. But don't follow-up after she blows a request off. Just wait for her to get back to you. I still can't wrap my head around it. We bonded so well, and she…
/r/seduction20/04/15 05:19 AM
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Some dating advice websites tell you not to show interest. This is bullshit, really. Basically, if you fake a lack of interest, you're not being real. So guess what? The girl will either pick up that you're being fake, or if you "succeed" then congratulations, you don't get to be yourself and if you try to, you'll kill the illusion that built up the artificial attraction that she feels. So if you want to try to perfect this, it's okay for disposable interactions where you don't care about feelin…
/r/seduction19/04/15 10:26 AM
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Are there any tricks you guys use to get better at ignoring her beauty? There's kind of a trick. But the best one requires you to make a few mistakes so that you can build up immunity. Basically, being beautiful doesn't guarantee that she's cool. Period. Unfortunately, this is a logical idea. So unless you have some killer willpower, you will continue to strike yourself out until you have enough experiences that show you how lame beautiful girls can be. However, once you have those reference exp…
/r/seduction19/04/15 10:20 AM
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Thanks again man. The last text interaction we had was me sending her a "Alright, no worries maybe I'll see you around sometime - have a great weekend!" to which she replied "Okay then, have a good weekend too :)" Oh..... actually, this is more of an acceptance that you guys will do different things. Not an invitation to ask her to hang. Hmmm. You could still try though. So I'm not sure if I should text her again sometime next week to see if she can hangout or just wait until/if she ever texts b…
/r/seduction19/04/15 05:48 AM
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Also, the part about game being social--that's a much better way to see it and I'm going to try and frame it that way. I've found it helpful. I was confused for years about why people used to think I was a player when I wasn't even having that agenda or why some guys had it so easy. I came to realize that so much of it is just being friendly, present, and aware. I've seen guys light up a girl just by saying hi and chatting with them in a friendly way. Meanwhile other guys trying to "run game," i…
/r/seduction19/04/15 05:46 AM
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I used to do that too. Actually people with that tendency probably keep it their entire lives and have to learn to live with it. The bonus is that people like us often have an easier time defusing arguments because we are less likely to attack others and are more likely to own our own bullshit. The trick is cutting yourself some slack.
/r/seduction19/04/15 05:31 AM
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You don't live in my country lol. Here professors doesn't give a fuck about students. Public university is like a business where professors are the owners. Yeah fuck my country, right? Awww..... Sorry to hear that. But if the risk is lower, then play ball, I guess.
/r/seduction19/04/15 05:28 AM
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Having known friends who have been taken advantage of, I'm extremely upset right now with guys I've seen who don't know how to take no for an answer. However, after falling for someone, the guy convinces them to have their first time. The guy has no intention of dating, and I feel like he pushes them into something they don't want to do (have their first time with someone that likes them and wants to date them). The guy then stopped talking to them immediately. First off, realize that you are ta…
/r/seduction18/04/15 09:29 AM
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Sadly most girl that I go for are in a similar situation, just the way it is at the moment. Damn. I know but still, mite do salsa again. That's a fun one. True but it gives more options to be, and possibly build a social circle by having events were I live. So you'd want to organize events nearer to where you live? Just remember that such a thing can easily suck up much of your life. Dealing with venues. DJing or scheduling DJs. Teaching a demo lesson or getting a guest to do it. There are a num…
/r/seduction18/04/15 09:12 AM
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Wow, that was a nice long insightful read - appreciate the effort you put into that. Its weird though man, she initiated a hangout with me last week and we had a good time. But this week she didn't reply to my texts until I called her, and she dodged two opportunities to hangout/do anything. It happens. People get busy or sometimes decide they don't want to hang out anymore. Hell, this happens with people who date for years. You just gotta let it go when people don't reply. Just let them chill a…
/r/seduction18/04/15 08:58 AM
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You are correct, sir.... I meant to remove it. And I went ahead and reapproved it.
/r/seduction18/04/15 08:52 AM
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Yeah but if it works she can help me on other grades too lol Pretty big risk. If she helps you, then she risks violating ethics. Which risks her job. It's more likely that she'll want to protect her job.
/r/seduction18/04/15 08:47 AM
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If i was bragging, i think i would have serious problems with my confidence lol...... Yeah, don't take it personally. Just pointing out that people in the forum seem to have misunderstood your post. I live in a country called Albania. Going to a girl and saying a simple hello will not get you far here. That's why i was asking for an advice here. Ah! Well in that case, I'd highly recommend reposting but making it clear in the title and post that the culture and overall situation makes things tric…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:57 PM
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You're welcome.... It's like training wheels. Once you use this kind of technique enough time and get accustomed to the feeling and mindset behind it, it can be easier to maintain that feeling and mindset even while asking someone out in a more traditional way.
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:44 PM
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1.Because they keep calling me and inviting me to go out. Clear enough. :) Though unnecessary for your post to mention this. It distracted a lot of people who just decided that you were bragging. 2.Hitting on a teacher is a new thing for me. Also you need to know that i don't live in a open-minded country like USA or Western Europe. This business of you not being in the West, is perhaps what you should have made your whole post about. Then it would have made sense to people why you were asking a…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:42 PM
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This thread had to be taken down but I'll still answer it. I just came back from a massive social event at a bar. What was the event? Was there dancing? I talked to some and got a good conversation going by encouraging them to talk about themselves. I got 2 numbers by asking if they want to go out clubbing on saturday night. This doesn't sound bad, offhand. I was trying to be fun and keep the conversation going. Such as in, "oh you just moved to here, have you been making new friends? etc". They…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:39 PM
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Removing this post because it's too vague in important areas and is also a little more appropriate for a Simple Questions Thread.
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:31 PM
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Side-note: rather than keep asking her out on a specific time that gets turned down, only to try again so soon...... As was mentioned, ask once and if she turns you down, drop it until she gets back to you. But perhaps more importantly, in order to maintain a good mindset, it can be helpful to plan something fun for yourself: maybe your favorite restaurant or coffee shop, a concert, or whatever it is..... and invite her to join you. Then it's not about "Oh, do you want to do this? No? How about …
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:29 PM
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If we've already agreed to a day. Then your question is moot, right? Aren't you just wasting your own time second guessing yourself at this point? Don't do that to yourself. Or are you saying that you agreed to a day but then you stopped short of pinning the actual time down? What wording is best? That said, a couple points: Don't call it a date when you talk to a girl to set it up. That word has so much emotional baggage that using it can too easily put too much pressure on both of you before y…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:25 PM
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If you post this again, please supply more information. For example: Why do you "know" that most girl you know like or love you? On what basis do you think you are good at flirting, if you have been spending so much time over-thinking how to open a girl when this doesn't require thought?
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:18 PM
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Removing this because it's a question that's focused on a single woman and also it's more appropriate for a Simple Questions Thread. If/When you post this again, provide more information because you were also too vague.
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:17 PM
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Logistics issues means I live an hour and abit from the CBD and trying to get a 18-22 year old girl to endure a 50 minute drive to a place that looks like wolf creek couple happen, isnt easy and I live with my mum which isnt easy. Got it..... Well, keep in mind that girls can take you home if things escalate in town and you guys compare notes about where to go to finish things off, it'll become clear that she probably lives close, which will lead you to her place. Im into punk rock, That's cool.…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:13 PM
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I can't tell if a girl is simply dodging hangout plans because she's busy, or if she's using it as an excuse to not go out with me. Look, right now you are exploring all of this, so it seems like you can't tell. Really, you can. You can feel it in your stomach if the girl is chomping at the bit to hang out with you or if she isn't showing interest and is going to flake. I suspect that the issue here is, right now you are likely presenting yourself to the women you try to date, in a way that repe…
/r/seduction17/04/15 02:58 PM
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I've given up drinking alcohol recently for health and fitness purposes. I went out for the first time last night and didn't really feel tempted to drink, but I did get asked by a couple of people why I wasn't drinking. Anybody have a good short response I can give? How about the truth? Tell them why you literally gave it up. You don't need to dress it up. And as a side note, there is nothing keeping you from buying a mixer like coca-cola or Red Bull and nursing that while you're at the club or …
/r/seduction17/04/15 09:59 AM
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I take a lot of interest in science and technology......something will come up in conversation that reminds of something I read about or learned in a class and I'll get excited about telling it to them. .....people I've just met, I sometimes feel like I lose them when I do this. They start showing signs of disinterest and aren't nearly as enthused as I am. Right. You're probably right. They are most likely not as enthused about your interests, if they are acting like this. And if you think about…
/r/seduction17/04/15 09:55 AM
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Just a small note: I am happy to see someone post something starting with, "How to....." that is actually a "How to....." rather than a poorly phrased question.
/r/seduction17/04/15 09:43 AM
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Feel too old to change...... Kindly to you I say....... this is bullshit. You're not being kind to yourself and that makes me sad. Hi, I am 25 and I've always preferred loneliness up to the last year or so. Perfectly valid. I find myself being really jealous and depressed when I see a relationship because it makes me feel worthless. This is understandable given my age and experiences. This is where you have to work on yourself. YOU chose your path for a reason. OWN it. And now you're choosing a …
/r/seduction17/04/15 09:41 AM
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Cheers, I am really just going for one night stand..... until I figure out what I want..... Sounds like you have already figured out what you want. Just because this might change is no reason to consider this desire less valid or coherent. (although logistics fuck it up so I havent gotten laid in 8 months!) What do you mean? Your living situation? at the moment until I figure out what I want and find a girl worthy of it. So it sounds like you know that you'd eventually like to settle down. There…
/r/seduction17/04/15 09:35 AM
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Talking with a dude in front of you, being just flirty enough to piss you off.....Denying you sex because of some stupid reason that doesn't make sense.......ordering food you are paying for and not wanting to eat it. .......Trying to control you. .......General bitching. .......Insulting you. .......Degrading you. .......Emasculating you. .......Hitting you. .......Going out too much without you. .......Hanging out with dudes that are attracted to her and calling them friends. .......Obligating…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:24 AM
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This is WAY too vague. Could you outline which "tests" you think she is using on you? And what your responses were? Use as much detail as possible. We are good here, but we're not psychic and knowing more details helps us to help you.
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:19 AM
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The problem I find though is that, since I live on a college campus, most girls seem to be preoccupied with things. ......Rarely do I see any girls walking by themselves without any sort of preoccupation. Yep. Such is life. People are usually doing something or on the way to something. But as DaygameCoach mentioned, this is not necessarily an obstacle at all. Bearing this in mind, how can I break the ice with girls without bothering them/appearing intrusive? Here's the thing. Most of this answer…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:17 AM
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Removing this post because: It is too vague. If you are referring to a specific situation, you need more details. It seems to be focused on one girl. It is more suitable for a Simple Questions Thread.
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:08 AM
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There is no hard rule for this. You have given absolutely no other context so it's impossible to say for sure. You've asked this as a theoretical. Are you trying to refer to a specific situation? If so, then give specific details. As many as possible. Better to err on the side of a little too much, then to have a post that merely consists of a title. Otherwise, if you intend this as a general question, then this is not very practical because there is no one size fits all answer for a question li…
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:06 AM
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This thread is being removed because it's focused on one girl and because the question is more suitable for a Basic Questions Thread.
/r/seduction17/04/15 05:00 AM
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Good luck! Post again with an update later if you want!
/r/seduction17/04/15 04:52 AM
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I think it'd be difficult to get her number discretely without being awkward for her. Not necessarily. But in any case, you pretty much shouldn't ever give her your number or just get her number. It should always be a number exchange. Get a number and immediately call it so she can put your number into her phone OR give her your number and have her call you and help you put her name into your phone.
/r/seduction17/04/15 04:39 AM
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its not that, im just completely confused on how to proceed after the second date, Ah..... Well, I'll take a crack at pointing you in a direction..... im constantly asking myself do I text her more? You shouldn't be trying to figure this out in terms of what to do to make it work right. There are a few good rules of thumb you could/should follow here. You should have a busy life: you shouldn't be sitting around with nothing to do except for deciding whether you should be texting her. You should …
/r/seduction17/04/15 04:36 AM
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Well im seeing her again but to be honest after doing pickup so long im not even sure how to start a relationship anymore as I have trained myself to go for a one night stand or f-close on the first or second date let alone a casual relationship or fwb. You're going to have to stumble through it because the answer to this question is a little different for everyone. But I can say that the feeling will be a little bit more.....meaningful in the beginning and in the lead up to whatever is developi…
/r/seduction15/04/15 05:03 PM
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I slowly sifted through all the girls and found 1-2 I liked. Both of them faded on me quickly....my last girl in my cycle decided she wasnt into it and let me know about it via text......I can feel myself being desperate. This is a normal situation. Sounds like too much of your confidence is resting on the validation you're getting from these girls. So when things slip with one, soon all of them are gone. I also noticed I am boring as fuck...once I got to know these girls I didn't have much of a…
/r/seduction15/04/15 10:50 AM
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I'm not planning on sleeping with any of them, but when it's happening, well, it's happening you know? Yeah, I know. Of course, you should have a little more control over your love life. Having this kind of philosophy is a good way to make unnecessary drama and also find yourself in situations where you have exposed yourself to greater risk of STIs. My biggest concern is with the three girls that are all friends. I'm thinking about either dropping all 3, or hooking back up with Girl #4 and actin…
/r/seduction15/04/15 10:28 AM
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Girl #3 HB8 and a little older than me (I'm 19, she's 21) and she's moving into a new apartment soon. She just got out of a relationship, and wants me to help her move in. Might be getting used here, but she is really cute and hey I get to flex while I lift shit for her. She sounds very dtf and we have a lot in common. Why does she sound "dtf?" It doesn't sound like you have really escalated with any of these girls so far. TL;DR I'm talking to more girls than I personally know how to handle. It …
/r/seduction15/04/15 10:24 AM
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I meet someone I'm attracted to.......there seems to be mutual interest over text......right when we're just about to meet up.....she doesn't respond. The answer here is not that women are any flakier than men. It's that you did not actually discover mutual interest in cases like these. You might be interested in a girl, but you can't establish mutual interest over text. If you don't feel that mutual interest before getting a number, then you're not going to build it over text. In any case, it s…
/r/seduction15/04/15 10:00 AM
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Rapport building- Finding out about her, then relating to it. (short answer). Got it.... Well, without more to go on, this doesn't sound bad. I had known the girl a whole three minutes as I got her number doing daygame. The date was pretty simple with coffee and going to a sculpture park for an hour after. Im bit entirley sure what made me nervous but for some reason I put alot of emphasis on this date, and I just felt weirdly nervous at the start but managed to get back in state and control the…
/r/seduction15/04/15 09:49 AM
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That doesn't make it any less rude or acceptable. Actually, it would. The guy is literally telling you that he doesn't think it is rude and that he finds it acceptable. And you are oddly trying to tell him what he should think. Which is not a defensible position. Now if you said something like this, then you might get somewhere. These guys are looking for a more thorough explanation, not a debate about what you think they should feel.
/r/seduction15/04/15 09:44 AM
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Wait why isn't catcalling acceptable? I think it's acceptable if females catcall me. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/32ihct/every_woman_wants_to_feel_attractive_sexy_and/cqcz2ws
/r/seduction15/04/15 09:38 AM
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Just once I wanna see the flip side of this, a girl just yelling out "DAMN BABY! I SURE WANNA RIDE THAT DICK!" I heard this behind closed doors, but never out in the blue. Of course, you're not likely to see this. Why? Because our culture is set up in such a way that girls who are overtly sexual like that, are socially penalized (or their self-image is damaged). The only girls who will usually go against this, are the ones who have psychological issues that prevent them from acclimating to our s…
/r/seduction15/04/15 09:36 AM
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.....i have the ability to disregard or forget anyone and just don't give a fuck about them whenever i want to. Specially when i'm noticing that i'm starting to like a girl and most of the times think of her all the time. I don't feel quite good about this..... This IS a problem. Because it sounds like it's not entirely even deliberate anymore. It sounds as if you are killing any meaningful emotional connection, out of habit. So it's not quite an ability and more like a fear-driven compulsion. L…
/r/seduction15/04/15 09:28 AM
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The date started ok with lots of rapport building and I felt fine, confident and just having a good time.... Can you elaborate on what you did that you are calling rapport building? .....however I got very nervous and anxious as the date went on which was really weird as im usually pretty good in this regard...... How long did you know this girl before you asked her out? What were you doing on this date? What activities? Where did you go? Why did you get nervous or anxious as the date went on? W…
/r/seduction14/04/15 05:24 PM
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Even though this had to be removed, I'll still answer it..... For body language in the street, walking around... is it better to look straight, like if you were sad or worried, and then smile her... or always have a smiley face? You are not a robot, so you don't have to decide on just one expression. Whatever you feel like should determine your expression. Granted, a positive attitude is going to be better for socializing with people. But you should not be trying to fake a smile if you don't fee…
/r/seduction14/04/15 05:12 PM
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This post is being removed because the question is too basic and/or has already been addressed in the top posts of this sub-Reddit.......
/r/seduction14/04/15 05:08 PM
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The goal is to gauge the girl to see if she is a high class woman of your taste and standards. Yep. Whatever you're into. I guess with the choice of either having a situation in which you can be alone with the girl, or being in a very public environment I advise people to take the first choice simply because there aren't many outside interactions that can take away focus from whatever may be happening between the two people. Definitely. Especially if the guy can keep his presence and wits about …
/r/seduction14/04/15 05:02 PM
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Now if you happen to be pursuing a girl that probably gets a lot of guys due to her looks, then you may want to take this advice if you don't want to fight off whole hordes of cock blocking zombies. LOCKDOWN THE GIRL BEFORE YOU BRING HER TO A PARTY. Take care with this attitude. It is based on fear, which is unattractive. Now, are there some situations that are less than ideal for making a connection? Definitely. I'll agree with that. But overall, there are a few facts that fly in the face of th…
/r/seduction13/04/15 04:30 PM
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In sober retrospection I remember being as polite as I could to the friend and trying to help arrange a situation where she could make it back with another friend and everyone would win. In reply to your last bullet, and the most frustrating part to me, was that the girl was trying to convince her friend of these alternative solutions we were trying to work out. That's when I knew the girl was definitely into it, in turn making me comfortable with the situation. Good........ Well, in the future,…
/r/seduction13/04/15 03:58 PM
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In response to the comment you were replying to, OP Or maybe the friend wanted a threesome!! Oh, the possibilities. Granted, if that was up for grabs, then it would have been developing in a perceptible way, OP would have been invited by the both of them and it wouldn't have been the friend saying, "I have to go," and then the whole thing coming to an end. I think if the friend made it seem like she needed the prospect to walk her home for safety, OP should have offered to go also. Plus, he coul…
/r/seduction13/04/15 03:51 PM
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She's got this boyfriend guy who she's mentioned on a few occasions, in neither positive or negative light. She's been with him for a few years but he lives way far away. She recently went to visit him and has been noticeably colder since then. This is all I needed to read. If this girl has a long distance BF, then she's not actually a real possibility for dating. Unless you want to be The Other Guy. Which it doesn't necessarily sound as if she's really offering. The thing is that a girl in her …
/r/seduction12/04/15 09:01 AM
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A little drunk. A lot of pissed. Totally understandable. So happy that I finally built up the self-confidence after lurking on this sub for years to go after a girl at a party, went exceedingly well and she was ready to go home with me, we had so much fun, and then her friend blew it saying "we should go back home I need a friend to walk me back!" Looking right into my eyes as she said it. Color me bitter. Realize that her friend played a part, but you also didn't do your homework if you thought…
/r/seduction12/04/15 08:50 AM
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I can talk to girls fine meaning hold a conversation and talk about whatever small talk. Okay..... So long as this includes "Active Listening," then you're in good shape. I can't really show attraction to new girls I talk to because I can only know how to playfully flirt with girls I already know and yeah, like you said it doesn't mean much. What do you consider flirting? Honestly, talking to girls doesn't require much to be considered playful or flirtatious.
/r/seduction12/04/15 08:46 AM
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Any chance you could elaborate on the part about my mindset being wrong? I was suggesting that it might be "wrong" because if you have confidence and self-esteem, then you won't be thinking of things in terms of, "How should I be so that things will work with this girl?" If you are taking good care of yourself, then a girl will either be congruent with your life, or she won't. If she isn't, then trying to change yourself to make it work, will only bring you pain. So it's not about having the "ri…
/r/seduction12/04/15 08:44 AM
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Sorry for the late reply.... But as to your questions.... Ok. So what the hell do I do as somebody who legitimately hates clubs/bars/school parties? (loud music, alcohol, and not being able to talk to people without shouting. I loathe all of those and then some) Knowing what you don't like is GOOD. But what do you do? First off, remember that seduction is really nothing more than being social. Once you back the train up to that part, then the places like clubs, bars, etc., DON'T MATTER. The fund…
/r/seduction12/04/15 03:57 AM
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The game has changed. Big time. Looking for any advice on getting back into the game. Keep in mind that "game" has not changed. "Game" is merely being social. But fallout from your last relationship might be affecting your situation. Related questions: Was your relationship mostly good or bad? Why did it end? How did it start?
/r/seduction06/04/15 11:00 AM
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Could you clarify a few things? Because there seem to be some contradictions in your post. ....I just can't flirt. If I know the girl well, I can flirt with her.... What do you think flirting is? I can talk to girls fine.......girls I just meet at a party or a bar I don't know what to say. If you can talk to girls "fine," then you can flirt. Can you elaborate on what things you do that make you think that you talk to girls fine? Side-note: Interactions with "girls you know well," are likely with…
/r/seduction06/04/15 09:22 AM
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I agree with some of the things you've said, but as far as this is concerned..... Now let's talk about what women you have choose. We all can agree that women are drama queens. Your lack or drama can be the reason why women don't like you..... Women are irrational. People are irrational. Focusing on how emotional and irrational girls can be, will only blind one from how emotions are affecting one's own decisions. So accept the fact that you'll meet your girl someday. But don't be waiting for her…
/r/seduction06/04/15 09:10 AM
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The first 2 points are excellent; the last one, I have trouble agreeing to them. But that might be because I mostly go out by myself... so I usually look for places where there will be a decent sized crowd so I can talk to or dance with them. I mean, that is the whole point, basically, of going out. I agree completely that it would HELP if you enjoyed the bar/club as is, but even if you don't, just go anyways and check it out! I actually do the same thing! But outcome independence does make your…
/r/seduction06/04/15 02:41 AM
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This post is being taken down because it involves basic questions that have been covered in our top posts or in the sidebar..... Consult the sidebar, search the top posts here, or wait for a Basic Questions thread.
/r/seduction06/04/15 02:33 AM
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This post had to be taken down, but I went ahead and answered it..... Hey guys I'm a 19m, uni student, live with my parents. I don't drink or go clubbing and I barely have any guy friends to hang out with who are into getting girls. What can I do to pick up girls? Not sure what the difficulty is. You go to UNIVERSITY and you are surrounded with people all day, including GIRLS. It sounds like you might reevaluate what you think "seduction," is. Because it doesn't require clubbing, drinking, or ha…
/r/seduction06/04/15 02:32 AM
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So, I'm relatively new to all this and I met a girl last night that's pretty stellar. She was open about dating multiple guys at once So far, so good..... She may be dating multiple people but she's open about it. but I'm a bit unsettled about being one of many and "competing", so to speak. Then this would not be an ideal situation for you. What's the right mindset to have in this situation? Let's back up the train here. If you're asking what the right mindset would be in order for something to …
/r/seduction06/04/15 02:23 AM
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I am confident, but a little reluctant to try my luck at a bar. I am a nerdy guy that has had done most of my game at school. I have no idea how to do the party scene. Well, there is going to be a learning curve because of your unfamiliarity with all of it, but here are some keys to keep in mind: "Seduction" is merely being social. Preoccupation with day game, night game, school game, party game.... it's not very important. In any situation, confidence is great because you need it to take action…
/r/seduction06/04/15 02:07 AM
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Just would like a general consensus opinion on kissing on first dates. This is actually not worth much. So you get an opinion from some guys about what girls want. Unless you want to kiss guys, this doesn't help too much and even if you asked girls, you still need to evaluate each girl in a case by case basis. Some girls seem to like it. Others don't and will say they don't kiss on first date. Right. And some say they don't like it but actually do. And some girls put up a front like they like it…
/r/seduction05/04/15 01:25 PM
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This, basically means they decline and sometimes act embarassed when someone compliments her or give praise when its due. I'm not just talking about beauty, but her abilities, interests and in general personality. Its not just girls who do this too. I'm pretty sure the proper response should be a thanks and not a "No, I'm not [insert compliment/praise]". Forget about what you think should be proper. People allow emotions to run their decisions all the time so you will ALWAYS see people doing thi…
/r/seduction05/04/15 01:17 PM
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Well luckily I'm not totally in the dark. I do BJJ once a week and I get along with the guys there well, but there hasn't been any natural movement from BJJ friends to actually hanging out afterwards. And once my injury is healed up I will go back to rugby, its a big team with lots of funny guys and we train right next to the club house there where everyone has a drink and stuff after training/games, so its not entirely bleak! Cool..... sounds good. And after that if you're looking for something…
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:38 PM
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I work at a bank that was robbed by an armed gun man. Thankfully no one was hurt but I'm still really angry about it. I have a date tomorrow night, any way I can use this story or just not talk about it? Such matters are tricky. It works best if you're not looking for opportunities to shoe horn your own agenda into the conversation. Better to focus on finding out about HER. If she happens to ask how your day went, then sure...... bring it up. But some things to beware of if you do: Don't let thi…
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:40 AM
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Well what if you get the feeling they want a relationship? You can't plan ahead for this. It sucks and it's going to be discomforting, but you HAVE to get in there. You have to date a girl before you find out what you even want out of it. You may find that you want something serious, you may want something casual, or you may want nothing from her. But you can't know without trying. Also, you shouldn't be operating on "if you get the feeling" that they want something. After you cross the threshol…
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:32 AM
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.....girls at night clubs by yourself.....You dont even have to talk to girls for this to work. Just go out on the dance floor, do your thing to the music(dance freely!! You cant look awkward/uncomfortable at all! Just be yourself!!) Good advice here! A lot of guys think that you have to talk to girls at clubs to open them. Really it's better not to: Girls are at clubs to dance so dancing or simple eye contact is far better to open with. Please understand a lot of girls go to clubs just to dance…
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:21 AM
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I was in your situation when I moved to a big city. Here's what I did. I lowered my standards. I met this girl hb5 at most on a good day..... This is good advice..... But I'll just add that hooking up with an HB5 is not necessary, if that's what you suggest. Though making platonic friends with a girl you're not intimidated by is a good strategy. But you can also start with guys, for that matter. Anything to increase the social circle.
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:14 AM
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Well its only been this year, just as I turned 24 in Jan that I decided to tell all my old friends to fuck off. And now I have no one. Literally zero friends. Awesome! This was really brave! Now all you just have to find some activity to replace the old activity that led to your old circle of friends. What are you into? There are a lot of things you could get into that come with built in socialization. Partner dancing is a big one. Salsa, tango, swing...... These dance scenes come with classes, …
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:11 AM
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.....when im alone, i literally cant do it! This is, as you might imagine, solely in your head. I also dont know the best places to pick up alone. Good news. There is no such thing as "the best places to pick up while alone." The best place is pretty much anywhere with people. And really, it's not about the place, but rather, the timing. Example: People often decide that the gym is a poor place to pick up on girls, but it's actually a pretty good place if you are just mindful and observant. I on…
/r/seduction30/03/15 05:01 AM
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I don't agree with this at all. No matter how well you handle it, it can still turn sour if your co-worker doesn't handle it well, and that isn't really something you can know about someone until it happens. Actually it is. There hasn't been a single time that I've dealt with a sour situation, that the person didn't give me some clue or telegraph the difficulty beforehand. Even if I didn't know the signs for what they were, beforehand......... after experiencing those signs, I was well aware. Bu…
/r/seduction29/03/15 12:45 PM
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A relationship is usually composed if two people.. So even if you are the uber gentleman.. Then a breakup will be a mess if the other person plays foul.. And there is absolutely nothing you can do. Actually, there is. You can screen for drama. If you're paying attention, you can perceive when people would be the kind of person who "plays foul." Once someone has had enough reference experiences in dating to pick up patterns like this, but they can be avoided once you've picked them up. And once i…
/r/seduction29/03/15 12:42 PM
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This belongs in /r/sex as it is advice about ED and the like....... Useful though.....
/r/seduction28/03/15 11:08 AM
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As was already stated by Imafukup, this isn't something WE can tell you. It's something you have to decide for yourself. But I will say that this "rule" people cite all the time that you don't, "Shit where you eat," is bullshit. The people who made this "rule," just don't know how to date without creating a mess in the aftermath. If you don't know how to date without things getting messy when it ends, then don't date at work. If you know how to be good to the people you date, and how to be discr…
/r/seduction28/03/15 11:07 AM
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Even though this had to be taken down, I'm going to answer it.... So there is this girl I have been crushing on for a while now. Honestly, this right here is probably all I need to read. How long is "a while?" If it's longer than a few weeks to a month, then it's 99% likely that you've friend-zoned yourself. Period. The value in this experience for you is in using it to fuel your desire to change yourself into a person who does not have to wonder "what if," in regard to girls he has an interest …
/r/seduction28/03/15 11:00 AM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction28/03/15 10:51 AM
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Sorry for the belated response..... been offline for a week.
/r/seduction27/03/15 11:58 AM
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How do you talk to a guy you've just met? "Weather's horrible isn't it?" "Nice motorbike man, you track it at all?" "Did you see Tevez's goal on the weekend?" I've tried that on women, doesn't seem to work... Do you really assume that any guy you talk to also cares about the same sports you do? Or are you saying that you ask them if you see them at a sports bar watching a game, or something? As for the bike comment, that should actually be a good thing to comment on. Taking something in the situ…
/r/seduction27/03/15 11:58 AM
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Anyone else had this problem? How did you fix it? Yep. It's unclear exactly what the cause is, but a few things often lead to this. Overthinking how to respond. Being self-absorbed and in analytical mode, rather than being present to the moment and fully aware of what's going on. Lack of confidence. Lack of familiarity with actual dating opportunities. [EDIT] Lack of interest in said girls. This should not be overlooked: often we will be rather oblivious to girls we don't really feel attraction …
/r/seduction27/03/15 11:30 AM
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Here's my issue, I still have no idea what the fuck you're meant to talk about with a woman you've just met... How do you talk to a guy you've just met? How do kids know how to talk to each other? What do they do? They just walk up and start talking. They don't know someone? They walk over and say something simple like, "Hi, I don't know you. My name is ______, what's yours?" Sure, this is just an introduction, but the mindset applies throughout a conversation. You talk to her, and more importan…
/r/seduction16/03/15 12:50 PM
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One more thing that I forgot to mention. There's something else she told me that may or may not force me to change my approach to asking her out. I know the general consensus here is to stop creating a plan, but this actually might be important. Being aware of the situation is not bad. It's not bad to know what you would do if Event X happened, etc. But you have to stop yourself from planning and waiting for the "right moment." It's never going to be the "right" moment. What happens is that you …
/r/seduction08/03/15 10:46 AM
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Imagine how hard is it to charm a couple of jealous girls with loud music pumping tho. :| It's actually a simple matter. Dance clubs aren't for talking. They're for loud music and dancing. So you don't initially approach by TALKING. You approach by DANCING and through eye contact. If you are insisting on trying to talk to girls who are there to dance and listen to loud music, you are doing the equivalent of going up to someone at a LAN party and demanding that they take off their headphones and …
/r/seduction08/03/15 07:31 AM
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Partner dances, in general, are also great because they allow you the opportunity to work on a skill set that is basically the "seduction" skill set. Becoming a good dancer requires developing the same skills that serve on in the dating world.
/r/seduction08/03/15 07:11 AM
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I actually tried that a few weeks ago. I mentioned another girl and got dating advice from her. She bluntly called me spineless since I hadn't asked out the other girl yet. Huh. She could be projecting here. You really should have acted sooner. Further on in the conversation, I asked her what she thought about the concept of friendzone and she claimed that she doesn't believe in it. If a guy likes her, he should grow a pair of balls and just ask her out. Hmm. I'll contradict myself on the basis …
/r/seduction08/03/15 07:09 AM
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Even though this needed to be taken down, I'll answer this post. I'm [21M] a college student and I really like this girl [21F] who I've been friends with for 3 years. This should have been the end of it. 3 years is more than long enough to have cemented yourself as a guy she doesn't FEEL attracted to. I recently decided that I've had enough and I want to do everything in my power to make her my girlfriend. You've decided. Problem with that is that seduction and attraction is a TEAM effort. And S…
/r/seduction08/03/15 07:06 AM
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This is being removed because you are posting about a situation that has already been addressed in the Sidebar and FAQ. You can either wait for a Simple Questions Thread or post it in Ask Seddit.
/r/seduction08/03/15 06:51 AM
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I thought I would field this one because to be honest, many of the guys here who would answer your thread are guys who are just as lost and awkward as the guys depicted in that article. So you're not going to get any insightful answers from them, only varying degrees of the same poor behavior and rhetoric that the guys in that article were guilty of, because many of them lack the awareness to examine this subject objectively. That's why they come to forums like this or seek out dating "coaches".…
/r/seduction08/03/15 06:22 AM
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So I notice she was playing Plants vs Zombies on her phone and i asked her if i was correct. We talked about the game for a few minutes and then the conversation kind of died. Nice. A lot of guys are always asking about what to say. You just observed and used what you saw to fuel an organic conversation. Though I'll disagree with the negative connotation of the word, "died." Conversations have their natural end and it's important to remember that this is not a bad thing and as you have discovere…
/r/seduction08/03/15 05:46 AM
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.....I can crack jokes with anybody..... This is not bad, but don't put pressure on yourself to be funny. It's really not necessary. So how did you guys get over how awkward touching other people is? It's a question of mindset and also of breaking your habits and living with discomfort. Mindset: People touch, hug, kiss, etc. The main reason this is discomforting and awkward is if you assume it is. Your discomfort will be picked up on by them and you'll make them feel uncomfortable even if they w…
/r/seduction01/03/15 03:29 PM
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None of these are really topics that most women generally find interesting. I don't watch that many new movies, and most of the music I listen to is older. None of these things are necessary to to have a conversation with anyone. Having a conversation isn't about meeting someone you share interests with or talking about movies or music. I just had girl tell me after a date that she thought I was a fun guy, but didn't think we had much in common (to be fair, we did playfully disagree on most thin…
/r/seduction01/03/15 03:21 PM
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When you're dating a girl, and the topic of previous relationships comes up (this topic will come eventually when discussing deeper about ourselves), how to avoid this topic. I have never really had this come up. When I was still a virgin, I never once had to talk about my inexperience. (Except while hanging with the guys who were bent on one-upping each other. You're not going to date guys, right? So this isn't an issue.) The first time I had sex with someone I never talked about my virginity a…
/r/seduction01/03/15 02:35 PM
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Me: Hi _______ Her: Hi 7788438, how are you doing today? Me: I'm good, thanks. How are you doing today? Her: Good thanks. .....I find it difficult to expand the conversation with no subject of discussion You have to be observant. When you're talking to anyone, the moment you are done talking and they start responding, you must stop thinking about anything else other than what they are talking about. You should not be divided between listening to them and things like what you might want to say ne…
/r/seduction01/03/15 02:25 PM
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Last night I was at a bar standing with my friends, drinking/talking/eyeing the scene. My eye caught a group of 4 girls standing near me, and I made eye contact with 2 of them several times. However, I didn't do shit. How do I approach this group...... Good news and bad news. Bad news is that you couldn't complete this task the way you chose to perceive it. The good news is that you were making this task more complicated than it needs to be. This isn't about doing some "approach." Not in the way…
/r/seduction28/02/15 07:51 AM
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So if you see someone at work or in class and they mention that they have a boyfriend, how can you play that off instead of going "oh, okay sorry to bother you then" There is no One Size Fits All answer for this. It depends on what you personally would want out of the interaction with that particular girl. Overall though, assuming that we're not talking about tempting someone to cheat (which is a different ball of wax), then your response is going to involve confidence done your way, whatever st…
/r/seduction27/02/15 09:30 AM
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The beta way to deal with this would be to say "oh no I'm totally not like that". It's not beta to say that you're not an asshole. And it's not inaccurate to say that you're not like a douchebag, if you're not. What would be "beta" is placating her by being a Yes-Man in responding to her in the way you think she wants..... it's beta to respond to her complaint about other guys, by immediately offering a comparison to those guys. How can you be honest without sounding like a complete asshole? As …
/r/seduction27/02/15 07:00 AM
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Unrelated to the topic at hand but as a mod do noticed the culture of /r/seduction has chang over time? I think there's a natural progression to any organized group. You're going to have new people who discover a group, dive in and get really involved. Out of those, some will cycle out over time (years or even and focus on other aspects of their lives. Some of these will cycle back in later. Some won't. Others don't ever leave. This is actually pretty rare, imo. Because of this process, things a…
/r/seduction25/02/15 04:20 AM
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So i might be overthinking it but ,does any one got some research about mirroring or any way of explaining to me why it happened? I recommend that you think of seduction less as something you do to other people, and more of a collaborative, team process. Sometimes the line is going to be rather hazy as to who is "seducing" who. That doesn't mean that you don't have a role. Of course you do. But it does mean that it's not bad if she's doing something like mirroring, versus you doing it. The impor…
/r/seduction25/02/15 03:52 AM
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If this post attracts trolls, expect it to be taken down, but for now, I'll answer this one. Basically, people unfortunately equate a few negative stereotypes with the idea of "Seduction" and /r/seduction: Guys who try too hard. Guys who are socially awkward because they think they need absolute control over a social interaction. Awkward guys who run run routines like robots. In some ways, the public perception is somewhere between thinking that people who learn "pickup" are slimy.....and that t…
/r/seduction22/02/15 05:09 PM
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Not yet ;) As of now I seem to be decent with OK looking girls, but I'm definitely not pulling any stunners. It's a process. And much of the "levels" involve barriers we put up subconsciously. It just takes time, persistence, and insight from contemplation to break through. Once I get to that point, then some pride will be warranted. Just as long as you allow yourself to feel a certain amount of goodness about where you're at. If you only allow yourself to feel it if you can get to some point in…
/r/seduction13/02/15 12:32 PM
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But in one scenario, some of the people you're not connecting with want to fuck you right off the bat. Not entirely so. Let me clarify. People require some sort of connection before sex happens. Even if it's just casual. Chemistry, something. All the things that come before sex, involve some form of connection. So NONE of the people who don't connect with someone, will have any desire to "fuck" them. As a guy who has always had to rely on personality and never managed a quick lay based on my loo…
/r/seduction12/02/15 02:32 PM
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That sums up the majority. Life is a game, some people play it better than others. Still, we all have to start somewhere. Yeah, I get that. I'm not treating women like objects. I'd just would love to be treated like one! I know..... it's the dream until you get it. Getting treated that way on a regular basis is really the only way to learn that it sucks, ironically.
/r/seduction11/02/15 05:30 PM
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"just so some Julian Assange-looking weasel-in-a-waistcoat could tell us he can read palms." Same bullshit really. Shame the "wrong" guy for showing his sex drive while going out of her way with wanting the "right" guy to show his sex drive. Make no mistake, the guy wouldn't have been called a weasel in a waistcoat if he was attractive to em. The mistake here is taking it as "shaming the guy". They were clearly lamenting his methodology. They were describing a guy who is running routines and not…
/r/seduction11/02/15 05:14 PM
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What i was trying to put my finger on, is if i'm being too intense, and causing women who are interested to suppress their indicators of interest out of nervousness. Not that there's a simple answer for that one either, but i'm just trying to brainstorm. Ah! Well the information has to be gathered from you or them, basically. Those are the choices. So unless you want to interview these women afterwards, you're probably left with the method of varying your approach and observing if the results, o…
/r/seduction11/02/15 04:47 PM
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....was it because I was minding my own business and having lots of fun, regardless wether I would score that night out not.... This is a big thing anywhere in the world, based on the girls I've met from different cultures. Outcome Independence is VERY helpful. ....I have trouble seducing just one girl back home. Could be that you're in a different mindset and routine back home and while abroad, you're in "vacation mode". You've said little that indicates what your attitude and mentality are lik…
/r/seduction11/02/15 03:57 PM
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Definitely travel ALONE..... Try it without a security blanket and then you'll be forced to venture outside of yourself. Perhaps make it so you have someone you might meet up with but you'll do the majority of travelling alone.
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:24 AM
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Is the whole thing (getting physical) about showing how you don't need the girl? No. Showing apathy is a good way to shut yourself down or create a false attraction that disappears the moment you show your attraction. or is it about having great persuade skills so you can push them to get physical? No. You don't "persuade" or "push" people to get physical. You're not dealing with people who don't like sex. You're not dealing with people who need to be convinced, pushed, or tricked into sex. Do a…
/r/seduction31/01/15 08:54 AM
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She's 18, I'm 19. We live in a sexually-oppressed Asian culture so that's worth mentioning. Also, bear in mind that, in many Asian countries, you're going to be dealing with traditional girls or girls who have gone as far the other way as they can.
/r/seduction23/01/15 03:13 AM
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Yeah, I do know the answer to that, by not taking it seriously. I usually just get too stage-freight by the situation and hence can't formulate a cocky response. Having a feel canned lines here would definitely help me here! You have to take care not to respond in a way that is serious and lends credence to such a comment from a girl. Also, was wondering what to do when a girl texts you that she's having a bad day? Do I listen/solve to her problems (i.e. Nice guy, risk of getting friendzoned)? S…
/r/seduction22/01/15 04:37 PM
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I found a similar thread but it's 3 years old. Let's update it. What are your go to movies? It's so much about "go to movies." It's about paying attention to the GIRL. She'll TELL you what kind of movies she likes and she'd be the best resource for what kind of movie to choose, not a bunch of guys on a forum. Here are a couple of guidelines I follow: I collaborate with her, starting off by asking her what kind of movies she likes. After she's given me a genre or two. I give her two choices based…
/r/seduction22/01/15 11:16 AM
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Hey Seddit, I'd like some advice on asking that girl out in your class. Specifically one that sits next to you. There's nothing different about a girl that sits next to you. Not really. You're just making it different. Girls are girls. Some of them will go for you, some won't. You find out by putting yourself out there. Simple. Straight-forward. I go to a small school with extremely small classes (<30 people), and I always try to sit next to the hottest girl in the class. Okay. And do you always…
/r/seduction22/01/15 11:00 AM
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I want a relationship where sexuality is comfortably expressed both verbally and physically. So no problem. She has been giving off the vibe that she wants something serious and to feel secure that she's not going to get fucked and dumped. And you don't want that. You seem to want what she wants. You don't need to explain this to her, so much as you need to demonstrate it in actions, that you're not playing the field or at least, that you're open to going steady with her. I know she's attracted …
/r/seduction22/01/15 10:03 AM
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I know. It's not easy. But you really have the key to all this, IN YOUR HEAD. You have to do the heavy lifting. No one else can think for you. No one else has control over your thoughts but you.
/r/seduction22/01/15 09:51 AM
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You haven't supplied nearly enough info. I'm not old. I'm only 26. I meet an 18 year old girl yesterday. So when I asked for her number she said "You're too old for me". Wait, what? How did she know your age? How did that come up? She shouldn't be blurting out that you look too old for her when you ask for a number, unless you told her prior to that or you look way older. How did you ask for her number? Like what did you say, verbatim? Of course I said "No, I don't think so, etc." But it didn't …
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:37 AM
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How do I convince myself that girls want sex as much as I do? First off, you're making this more complicated than you need to. You convince yourself by thinking it and looking for all the examples in the real world and on the Internet, that demonstrate this. Secondly, PEOPLE want sex, but not every PERSON wants as much as all the others. Everyone is different. So really the phrase on your mind should be, "There are girls who want sex as much as I do." I've been convinced by society that guys thi…
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:32 AM
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I'll go ahead and throw in some feedback even though this had to be removed. I've had a fuck buddy (I guess we'll call her that) for about 1.5 years now. You sound conflicted about what she is to you. Would that be accurate? After I didn't want to become more she ended up getting a boyfriend. Okay, so it's pretty clear cut here that you didn't want the same thing as her, and THIS is when you should have been accepting that as the situation and re-wiring your brain by moving onto the next. They s…
/r/seduction19/01/15 01:45 PM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction19/01/15 01:36 PM
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Is there a way to tell if a girl wants me to talk to her/is interested in me? You talk to her. And the kicker: you listen to what she has to say and pay attention to all her feedback (actions, words, etc.) as you interact. That's pretty much it. And what is the best way to act on this? You seem to think there is something to do before you take action. There really isn't. You take action FIRST and sort shit out later. If you want to spend time figuring out when to talk to a girl before you talk t…
/r/seduction19/01/15 01:31 PM
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Why do you care what the hyper-feminists are doing? .......99% of girls are nothing like what you, and the article, describe. Sidenote: For certain personality types, it only takes a few negative encounters with "hyper-feminists" at a young age, to set them down the path of feeling shame for simply approaching. Hell, a few negative encounters with girls while a boy is in grade school/middle school, could set them on that path. For some guys, it wouldn't ever be a problem. But for some (like over…
/r/seduction19/01/15 01:03 PM
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Being willing to look dumb and enjoy new experiences is the exact opposite of a lack of confidence. Yep. But asking someone to drop their fun and teach you is not the same as being willing to look dumb and enjoy a new experience. What you are describing is when a guy just gets on the dance floor and goofs around without needing someone to tell him how to do it.
/r/seduction19/01/15 02:16 AM
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Nah, you can totally be confident and do ask her to teach you. if you are open to learn and secure with your self it is fine. just act like a cool guy who is internet in learning something and like it is not a big deal, (which it is not cuz no one expects you to have all the skills) Here's the thing, this sounds good until you think it through. First off, OP has explained that he is NOT secure with himself and was so uncomfortable with the environment and activity of dancing that he rejected a g…
/r/seduction19/01/15 01:54 AM
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Well ****. Too late now. I need a little sedditor in my head next time I go out lol NO. Don't ask her to teach you. Unless you're with someone who is bossy. Otherwise, saying "teach me," will just be transmitting your discomfort and basically saying to the girl, "I lack confidence and I need you to hold my hand and give me something that I should be able to give myself." I would recommend working on yourself to where you don't feel uncomfortable with dancing anymore, if that's something you want…
/r/seduction18/01/15 07:28 AM
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I'll go ahead and field this one even though it had to be taken down...... Is there a good way to message a girl on Facebook that you haven't talked to in years? You've just made it sound like this is a girl you have never had a good connection with and then you asked if it would work to contact this person in a way that would basically shut down or drastically reduce your chance of getting anywhere with her. I'm friends with a girl that I used to hang out with in high school and I haven't spoke…
/r/seduction14/01/15 03:53 PM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction14/01/15 03:45 PM
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Aside from what Ipickupgrandmothers said.... Please post stories of when a girl has played you whilst you thought you were the one in control. At what point did you realise? What did she do? This stuff is not so black and white. We only think it is when we're younger. Even in this theoretical situation you're painting where one person "plays" another person who thought they were "in control," it's MASSIVELY oversimplifying to the point where the conversation almost becomes meaningless unless we …
/r/seduction14/01/15 03:42 PM
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This guy admitted he was shy and timid. Thus, more likely than not, he normally is coming off as a beta in most circumstances, especially dates. See, I contend that it's over-simplification to call him "shy and timid" in a way that's seriously hindering his dating life. After all, OP scored the date in the first place and then hooked up with her and this is just one example/situation involving the guy. There's not enough here to establish that he's shy or timid or beta enough that it's really af…
/r/seduction14/01/15 03:07 PM
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"I have seen people hold the real power while someone else is allowed to call the shots." Sure you have. Have you read the guys post though? Does this guy seem like the type of guy that can hold the power during a date - maintain frame - while allowing the female to call the shots and maintain attraction? I apologize. I wasn't being specific enough because I was trying to keep the length of my post down. But I have seen guys with calm confidence, and their whole being just emanated, "I'm in char…
/r/seduction11/01/15 11:33 AM
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You can't post advice just because you're subscribed here. If you aren't sleeping with at least several women, don't give advice in /r/seduction. You know, I agree with you on much here, but I still found myself fighting the urge to disagree with you because of all the bile and negativity in your presentation. I had to work hard to read this clearly. Rants like this are perhaps just as much the reason that this sub-Reddit is "not how it used to be." EDIT: Or misunderstandings like the one that l…
/r/seduction09/01/15 02:06 PM
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Nah, I don't have to go to the military, but that's what I want to do, I don't like anything else, or see myself doing anything else other than being a Marine. Got it...... Well, as long as you've thought it through, which you apparently have! Just take care of yourself, man. I wasn't exaggerating the effects I have seen on people I know who've been out on tours. They seriously have trouble sleeping next to people because they lash out in their sleep and strike anyone near them if anyone acciden…
/r/seduction05/01/15 04:24 PM
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I have never had a girlfreind, You're 17. Many people go that long without one. Girls, too. I haven't even been around a girl that has been around my age and/or attractive for at least a year at most, I'm deppressed and lonely as fuck, when I'm around people I'm not because I feel like I'm doing something, Look, it sounds like you have some thoughts circulating in your head, that are screwing you over. You're stewing over your loneliness instead of using the time to become the man you want to be…
/r/seduction04/01/15 04:25 PM
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I'm almost done and plan on joining the Marines in September. Why not college?
/r/seduction04/01/15 04:13 PM
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I'm 17, don't have a car, home schooled, average looks, First off, it's not necessarily a problem to lack a car. Do you live near a large metro area with a inter-city train system? Do you at least have access to a car? Do you have a driver's license? Secondly, it's good to acknowledge that home-schooling is good for some things but not so good for things like social development. Have you had ways of socializing with other home-schooled kids, at least? Thirdly, looks don't matter. If you're "aver…
/r/seduction04/01/15 04:11 PM
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I can talk for hours about "deeper" topics, but girls I've met mostly like discussing lighter pop topics...... To elaborate on what ThrowawayPUA said, this is a red herring. It's not about "deeper" or "lighter" topics. It's about connection. Connection isn't facilitated by having a conversation about fluff, anymore than it's developed by having some "deep" philosophical conversation. You get her talking about HER and follow that wherever it goes. You could kick it off with something as inane as …
/r/seduction04/01/15 03:04 PM
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I'm still going to answer this, even though it had to be removed. Well, we havn't met yet alone, but I will ask her soon. My thoughts are only about her. I have to work the first time this year tomorrow. Again, I'm only thinking about her. I am not showing it to her, but I can't lie myself. So how do I handle this? Look, if you are allowing your mind to wander and focus on her so much, she'll know it sooner or later because you'll show it in your words and actions. Unfortunately, my job is 80% b…
/r/seduction04/01/15 02:59 PM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction04/01/15 02:54 PM
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I ask this because I've found myself once before and currently involved with girls who have pretty low self esteem. Like I'm talking the type to not take compliments because they don't believe them. I agree with others here that this is a red flag. I disagree that this is something that can truly be compensated for, at least by you. So my question remains: How much of an issue is insecurity in relationships? Pure and simple, this is her cross to bear and you can't really help her fully conquer i…
/r/seduction04/01/15 02:49 PM
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Should I learn social skills then move on to pickup and seduction? Tell me what you think and where I should start. Social skills and seduction are not different things. They are, in fact, the same thing. The only difference between socializing with a dude and "seducing" a woman is your end goal / intention. That's it. If you work on getting better at socializing with anyone, that's the best foundation. If you nail that down and work on your confidence, you'll be on a good path.
/r/seduction26/12/14 11:45 AM
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So I'm 20 years old and I've been out of the dating game for a long time dealing with working on myself and some personal issues. The last time I got laid was over a YEAR ago. Look, if it's only been a year, it hasn't been a long time. There are guys out there who are over 30 and never even seen a woman naked. You are choosing a mindset that will make it harder to break your dry spell. .....I don't make many moves. I have a few girls that have tried to pursue me, not aggressively but obvious eno…
/r/seduction26/12/14 11:39 AM
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I have trouble climbing the "escalation ladder" because I simply don't know how to transition from each step..... If you don't know "how" to transition, then you aren't paying attention to the girl. You know when and how to transition, from cues from the girl. If she's not responding positively, you don't continue. If she is responding positively, you continue. If you spend time in your head trying to figure out some formula, you're not paying attention to the girl and you'll never know when to …
/r/seduction26/12/14 11:25 AM
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Basically I want to focus on improving my social skills as a whole before I move on to seduction Look, you might have the wrong idea about "Seduction." The core skills of "Seduction" are nothing more than social skills. The only difference between being socially adept with some dude and being socially adept with a girl you want to sleep with or date, is intention. So you're not going to "move on" to seduction after improving your "social skills." If you're truly improving your "social skills," y…
/r/seduction26/12/14 11:16 AM
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I'm really interested in what ways it's different. I just looked up "Korea" on Seddit and came up with ab unch of things (sorry if my typing is awkward, a little loaded). Many of them implying that the tools are no differently used in America vs. Korea. So I'm just wondering how to re-calibrate myself. You mention subtlety, can you elaborate a little? If we're going to get to the heart of it, the importance of paying attention to seduction (being social) doesn't change, even though the culture d…
/r/seduction22/12/14 04:37 AM
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....I don't know the cultural norms of things like pick up culture in Korea. There's some posts here talking about how it's no different than say, American pickup culture.... I don't know what posts you're referring to but I'd be curious to read them, because the idea that pick-up in Korea is no different than pick-up in America, is BULLSHIT. It's different in that, if you are obviously a foreigner in Korea (not Asian), it's easier. You might have to make a few adjustments, but really, it's easi…
/r/seduction20/12/14 10:00 AM
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...this one girl, J.....met her at a party at the end of the semester, tried to set up a date the day after but she was home for Christmas and now I am too, she added me on snapchat. K suggested I add her back and start texting her. I was adamant about not doing this and told K there was no reason to text J if we weren't going on a date any time soon. She said that all girls wanted to be texted, to know they're being thought of, and that I shouldn't be so rigid in my stance. This whole texting v…
/r/seduction20/12/14 07:31 AM
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And by "like them too much" I mean become too comfortable with whatever woman I am with and I commit the cardinal sin of actually speaking my mind about something. Yeah, based on what I've read, it's not that you're speaking your mind. It's what you're revealing. Racism and over-generalizing aren't attractive qualities. Neither is sharing some of your thoughts without sharing how you arrived at some of your conclusions.
/r/seduction16/12/14 06:32 PM
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Want an example of driving someone away? I was dating an AIDS researcher for several months. The last time I saw her we went to the aquarium, we was talking about AIDS, which she believes can be traced to 1920s Congo bush meat markets. I agreed to the validity of her theory but asked if she thought it was artificially introduced here in the US, given its exponential growth late in the 1970s. Immediately I could see the disgust in her face. How did you pose your question? Did you have an exact me…
/r/seduction16/12/14 06:30 PM
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What is too extreme? It's not that your views and thoughts that are "extreme," per se. Though those views and thoughts are not mainstream and are rather polarizing stances. The issue is probably something to do with a lack of consideration for people while communicating with them. Your views shouldn't even really be an issue if you're trying to have a conversation with them. Getting a girl to open up to you doesn't require you presenting an information dump of your thoughts. If that's what you'r…
/r/seduction16/12/14 06:21 PM
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How do you deal with people when they ask who you're with? I don't have to "deal with them". I just tell them I came alone. This isn't a question people lead with. Usually by the time it comes up, I'm already knee deep into a conversation and interaction with someone, having fun. Just the lack of social proof that goes with going out alone must be pretty tricky. It's a choice to see it as a "lack." In my experience, it's actually quite the opposite. People are impressed that you had the balls to…
/r/seduction16/12/14 06:10 PM
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I'd like to know who actually goes out solo and what the pros (and maybe the cons) are of going out solo. I have loved doing that, personally. Pros: No more waiting around for people to get ready. You set your schedule and changing it is easy because it's just you. No more putting up with those friends (or friends of friends) who might cock-block in any number of intentional or unintentional ways. Cons: You will live or die by your ability to be social and ready to engage with the crowd. I also …
/r/seduction14/12/14 02:10 PM
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This has nothing to do with building comfort. It goes deeper..... The reason I can't say what I feel is because my views, thoughts, and indeed my very psyche are too extreme for your average 20-something woman. Why would you say, "too extreme?" This is too vague and the answer to this question is probably important to truly giving you a good answer for your post. But this is slowly killing me. I am tired of being alone. I'm tired of dates and dates and smiles and flakes and bars and dancing and …
/r/seduction14/12/14 02:02 PM
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I'll go ahead and respond even though your thread had to be removed...... Ok, so I'm in this weird situation. I'm 20 and for the last 6 years I was pretty asexual, also never felt the need for a relationship, was just focusing on my hobbies and was perfectly happy with that. I also never felt interested enough in any girl I met. I was born lucky with a certain handsomeness about me (I'm going off the fact I keep getting called it by girls, mothers, bartenders, w/e) But I've always been shutting …
/r/seduction14/12/14 01:52 PM
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This belongs in /r/askseddit as it is asking advice for a specific situation / girl. This will stay in spam filter, please repost in the AskSeddit subreddit.(Not askREDDIT, but askSEDDIT) Please read RULES & GUIDELINES. This post is answered by many SIDEBAR guides. I would also recommend reading 10-20 of the top posts on Seddit: FOUND HERE. Also, don't worry about it! You didn't do anything wrong since you didn't know
/r/seduction14/12/14 12:36 PM
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There's been so many times where I find a nice lovely woman who is well educated, classy, the whole nine yards. However, she's willing to cheat with me! ........it makes me sometimes wonder if all women are able to possibly cheat. If just one bad night between you and your lady can make her cheat. Two things here: Not everyone chooses to solve/address their relationship problems by going outside of the relationship by cheating. Something you style or vibe is just attracting potential cheaters. S…
/r/seduction06/12/14 06:28 PM
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Been reading that girls find this "creepy" and whatever.. I don't get why it is though. I thought stating interest was fine.. seems to be conflicting opinions Rarely are there actually good or bad openers. There are guys out there who opened girls and did well, with freaking POKEMON lines. It's not WHAT you say. It's HOW you say it. Confidence, etc. You could have the "best" material (whatever that is) and fail if your attitude is shit. And vice versa.
/r/seduction06/12/14 06:19 PM
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e.g when a girl gently touches your shoulder or your hair. I know is on. As was stated by others, girls don't need to "game" guys because guys are always there to "game" them. What's more, it doesn't matter if their mindset is shit because guys are usually so concerned with how to make things work, that they'll ignore terrible attitude and act like it's their fault that the girl is choosing a bad mindset.
/r/seduction06/12/14 06:17 PM
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For the most part I agree with your comments if in a dating context, but I am specifically talking about friendships here. If you want to talk about friendships, fine. But then realize that the way you posed your post, muddled your overall point and making it look like you only treat girls well if you have interest for them. If I do something nice, it's nice to be appreciated. It really is as simple as that. Okay, then if someone doesn't appreciate you and you need that, then screen them out. Si…
/r/seduction05/12/14 11:56 AM
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I mostly get the, oh I thought you were 20 type of response. Which Im not sure if I can translate that into something positive or what. There's nothing negative about getting this kind of response. Spin it however you like. Take it as a compliment. It's a choice to see it as something you have to "overcome." But you can be sure they'll pick up your drop in confidence, if you choose to see it as a bad thing. But I know for a fact that its probably in my head. Most of the guys that are around the …
/r/seduction05/12/14 11:45 AM
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Ive also realized that the guys who do come off as 40 and are very successful at seducing girls that are 18-25 have alot of experience with game and seduction, which is just incredible confidence. Or are financially well. Money isn't necessary. Not as much as you'd think.
/r/seduction05/12/14 11:42 AM
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I'm a pretty generous guy - it's not uncommon that if it's a female friend's birthday or a special occasion I would sometimes take them out for a nice dinner. But what I have found over the last few years is that they rarely reciprocate or show appreciation. First off, this idea of being "generous," you're doing it wrong if you require reciprocation. At ALL. And this might seem like the same subject, but it's not: if you like people who make special gestures and the like, screen for them. If peo…
/r/seduction03/12/14 03:44 PM
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Between the girls that are 18, 20, 22, I've noticed that my age being 25 kind of shook them off a little. Why do you say that it "shook them off a little?" How did this translate into, in terms of behavior and speech, etc.? I ask because I've seen 18-25 year old women going for guys pushing 40, and the older guys weren't having any issues.
/r/seduction03/12/14 03:37 PM
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